[OSM-legal-talk] Yahoo imagery usage in Merkaartor : ok requested

2008-04-24 Thread bvh
Chris Browet has been working on getting Yahoo map support in Merkaartor. His first implementation downloaded tiles directly from Yahoo. On advice from the OSM community we disabled this since it was felt this would go against the Terms of Usage of Yahoo : we had to use the flash of javascript API

[OSM-legal-talk] converted GPX trace

2008-04-24 Thread Elmer
Issue resolved, trace deleted by author. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 24 Apr 2008, at 03:40, Peter Miller wrote: Comments in line -Original Message- From: Shaun McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 April 2008 00:22 To: Peter Miller Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops On 23 Apr 2008, at 17:45, Peter Miller wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Steve Hill
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Andy Allan wrote: You are taking what you believe to be true, and applying it to everyone else. The same can be said for both sides of this discussion. If you think there is no clear winner, then shoudn't the established conventions should take precendence? There are

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Some people advocate nodes off to the side of the way to represent the location of the pole or shelter in relation to the road. Near where I live (Korea) there is often a shelter on one side of the road for buses going both directions. In that case I'm guessing I would put a shelter node on one

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Jeffrey Martin wrote: Sent: 24 April 2008 9:06 AM To: Peter Miller Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops Some people advocate nodes off to the side of the way to represent the location of the pole or shelter in relation to the road. Near where I live (Korea) there is often

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are established conventions for both flat tagging schemes and namespacing - see the likes of the piste proposal, the lighthouses proposal, etc. Namespacing every tag is not an established convention, no matter how

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Martin wrote: Sent: 24 April 2008 9:06 AM To: Peter Miller Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops Some people advocate nodes off to the side of the way to represent

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I've made a decision for what I am going to do. If I wait until there is some standard way it will be a hassle to find all these stops later instead of putting them in now with all the other data, and I might loose my little scraps of paper. Here's my plan of action. I'm going to put a node on

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Stephen Hope wrote: I think it's just as important to have a list of models NOT to buy. The one recommendation I'd give is: if you're expecting to be at all serious about OSM, grit your teeth and pay for a decent Garmin. I'm now using an eTrex Legend HCx (having started with a basic yellow

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Richard Fairhurst Sent: 24 April 2008 10:57 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations Stephen Hope wrote: I think it's just as important to have a list of models NOT to buy. The one recommendation I'd give is: if you're expecting to be at all serious about OSM,

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Lester Caine
Jeffrey Martin wrote: I've made a decision for what I am going to do. If I wait until there is some standard way it will be a hassle to find all these stops later instead of putting them in now with all the other data, and I might loose my little scraps of paper. Here's my plan of

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Ari Torhamo wrote: on the other hand because some of the argumenting has been based on how the use of namespaces would affect the inexperienced OSM:ers - like me. Thanks for your input - you're

Re: [OSM-talk] Naga landuse relations

2008-04-24 Thread maning sambale
Hi, You can't use JOSM to check this by looking at the colours on the screen. A properly drawn and tagged island in a lake will be more blue than the lake itself in JOSM. Also, a not properly closed polygon will still be filled by JOSM, but it will not show up in the mapnik rendering. If

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Peter Miller
Comments in line -Original Message- From: Ben Laenen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 April 2008 12:30 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder); 'Jeffrey Martin'; 'Peter Miller' Subject: [Spam] Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops On Thursday 24 April 2008, Andy Robinson

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Ben Laenen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent: 24 April 2008 12:30 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder); 'Jeffrey Martin'; 'Peter Miller' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops On Thursday 24 April 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: Because a bus stop is a highway

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Jeffrey Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've made a decision for what I am going to do. If I wait until there is some standard way it will be a hassle to find all these stops later instead of putting them in now with all the other data, and I might loose

[OSM-talk] Cuba under the water

2008-04-24 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Hi, In Mapnik zooms 7, 8 and 9, most of the isle of Cuba is under the water. Is there anything I can do to fix this? Should I provide a hand-made shapefile or something? Thanks. Lucas ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Lester Caine
Ben Laenen wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: Because a bus stop is a highway feature it really in my view should be part of it. And because we map what we see on the ground then logically if there are two bus stops not quite opposite each other then I place

Re: [OSM-talk] Cuba under the water

2008-04-24 Thread Lauri Hahne
2008/4/24 Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, In Mapnik zooms 7, 8 and 9, most of the isle of Cuba is under the water. Is there anything I can do to fix this? Should I provide a hand-made shapefile or something? Thanks. Lucas It looks ok at

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 24 April 2008, Lester Caine wrote: It is the same problem where the tram way and the road share the same way, but isn't it more normal to find that there is a way for the tram track in the same way as the separate carriage ways of a two carriage way road? I've certainly been

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Martin wrote: I've made a decision for what I am going to do. If I wait until there is some standard way it will be a hassle to find all these stops later instead of putting them in now with all

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Lester Caine
Ben Laenen wrote: We could talk about modelling bus services, but lets not for now. Lets sort out fixed infrastructure and then revisit timetable. Modelling bus lines isn't difficult, just enter some route relations and many people have done it before (time tables are really out of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Steve Hill
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Christopher Schmidt wrote: I can't claim to have the right answer, but I will state that it is not common in geographic software to have namespaced attributes: in general, when this is the case, it is a namespace based only on the object type which has a specific schema.

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Lester Caine
Ben Laenen wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2008, Lester Caine wrote: It is the same problem where the tram way and the road share the same way, but isn't it more normal to find that there is a way for the tram track in the same way as the separate carriage ways of a two carriage way road? I've

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Lester Caine
Dave Stubbs wrote: A nice 'is_in' link to the 'unique_id' of the way so that one can actually find all the bus stops on a route ;) Looking at the way things have developed, is there any reason we can't set a tag for is_in, and then select a way, so that the key becomes is_in=# ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 01:23:32PM +0100, Steve Hill wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Christopher Schmidt wrote: I can't claim to have the right answer, but I will state that it is not common in geographic software to have namespaced attributes: in general, when this is the case, it is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Steve Hill
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Christopher Schmidt wrote: It almost sounds like the proposal is to use namespaces in place of a 'type' property on the object... which I personally think would be a better way to go than to namespace every tag... The idea is to make the context of the tag much more

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Dave Stubbs wrote: either you're a human in which case most of the time you'll engage your brain and figure out what makes sense... or you're a computer in which case some nice human has programmed

[OSM-talk] Fields and trees..

2008-04-24 Thread Sfan00
In respect of fields, I came across an intresting problem: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=51.86517lon=-0.35858zoom=17 They current tagging is a compromise, I would welcome further disscusissons on this. Also was it decided that landuse=farm; was the entire farm or just the farm

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Steve Hill
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Dave Stubbs wrote: And if the occupancy is on a fish pond then it likely does How do you know it's a fish pond? There is no tag that unambiguously identifies the type of object it is. Instead there is a whole load of tags to identify the object, and you have to have a

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 24 April 2008, Lester Caine wrote: I just look at the Relations page and see lots of 'Proposed' ... At the end of the day 'is_in' IS a relation so we are probably actually talking about the same thing, but there is a lot of 'talk' but no practical examples of actually using

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Martin wrote: I've made a decision for what I am going to do. If I wait until there is some standard way it will be a hassle

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
That link is broken. Try: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.5 On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Dave Stubbs wrote: And if the occupancy is on a fish pond then it likely does How do you know it's a fish pond? It would probably have a tag like man_made=fishpond. I don't know there's a tagging

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Steve Hill
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Dave Stubbs wrote: It would probably have a tag like man_made=fishpond. I don't know there's a tagging schema for that. How did you know that the man_made tag defined the context? Seriously, I've had enough of this. That's fine, but I'm afraid you haven't convinced me

[OSM-talk] Sutton mapping party - 24/25 May (SW London)

2008-04-24 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, The details are now finalised, we have the use of the local library with free wifi, support from a local councillor and various local groups including a school and scout group all interested! I'll be getting onto the local media soon too. After the really successful Surrey mapping party

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Dave Stubbs wrote: It would probably have a tag like man_made=fishpond. I don't know there's a tagging schema for that. How did you know that the man_made tag defined the context? Oh for fuck's

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
I like to know why I'm doing something, and dislike being told because. So far you've not actually come up with anything except statements of belief, and a few potential non-uses. I'm in the same boat - I think the flat namespace is a really really bad idea and yet no one has actually

Re: [OSM-talk] Cuba under the water

2008-04-24 Thread Jon Burgess
On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 15:01 +0300, Lauri Hahne wrote: 2008/4/24 Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, In Mapnik zooms 7, 8 and 9, most of the isle of Cuba is under the water. Is there anything I can do to fix this? Should I provide a

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Kai Krueger
Richard Fairhurst wrote: The one recommendation I'd give is: if you're expecting to be at all serious about OSM, grit your teeth and pay for a decent Garmin. I would be interested to hear how you would rate that solution compared to one involving a bluetooth GPS mouse and using e.g. a cell

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Laurence Penney
On 24 Apr 2008, at 19:32, Kai Krueger wrote: I would be interested to hear how you would rate that solution compared to one involving a bluetooth GPS mouse and using e.g. a cell phone to do the recording and display of OSM maps. With GPS bluetooth receivers selling already at about 20 to

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Kai Krueger wrote: I would be interested to hear how you would rate that solution compared to one involving a bluetooth GPS mouse and using e.g. a cell phone to do the recording and display of OSM maps. Well, you can do anything if you connect a Bluetooth GPS mouse to a sufficiently

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread David Earl
On 24/04/2008 19:57, Laurence Penney wrote: I quite liked my Nokia N70 + BlueGPS (Sirf3, non-logging) + nmea_info.py combo. So much so that I bought another BlueGPS when I left my first one on a train in a good position near the window. I can't find its replacement now, so wonder if I

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 4:48 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/04/2008 19:57, Laurence Penney wrote: I quite liked my Nokia N70 + BlueGPS (Sirf3, non-logging) + nmea_info.py combo. So much so that I bought another BlueGPS when I left my first one on a train in a good position

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, I've been very happy with my Nokia N810 internet tablet. [...] Interesting :) . I just bought such a device a couple of days before. While eagerly waiting for it to arrive (it's difficult to be patient if it comes to gadgets :) , I've added rendering of minor ways (tracks, cycleways,

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Jeffrey Martin wrote: Sent: 24 April 2008 10:50 PM To: David Earl Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations I bought a Garmin HCx Vista. Does the high sensitivity mean that it's better than other receivers or that they are just now catching up to other receivers? It

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Dermot McNally
On 24/04/2008, Jeffrey Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Garmin HCx Vista. Does the high sensitivity mean that it's better than other receivers or that they are just now catching up to other receivers? I have exactly this device and I love it. Its sensitivity is very high, to the

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
It works for me also. I usually get 8m in Korea. I just have no idea if that is good or not. I don't think WAAS makes a difference here. I see no difference if it's turned on or off. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Dermot McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/04/2008, Jeffrey Martin [EMAIL

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Karl Newman
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Martin wrote: Sent: 24 April 2008 10:50 PM To: David Earl Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations I bought a Garmin HCx Vista. Does the high sensitivity mean

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I think that either of these units will serve you well and, in my opinion, any purchasing decision should be made on the basis of features, not the brand of chipset. I think he could also add that chip manufacturers don't have a lot of control over things like antenna placement, and case design

[Talk-de] neues Worldfile vom 23.4.08

2008-04-24 Thread Carsten Schwede
Hallo, das neue Worldfile steht auf meiner Wiki-Seite zum Download zur Verfügung. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Computerteddy -- Viele Gruesse Computerteddy ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] ?ffnungszeiten (hier: Zoo)

2008-04-24 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Dienstag 22 April 2008 schrieb Michael Bergbauer: Gerade bei solch eingeschränkten Öffnungszeiten würde sich die Angabe lohnen, weil das Risiko, vor verschlossenem Tor zu stehen, recht groß ist. Ich bin eigentlich dagegen, solche Daten unmittelbar in der Datenbank von OSM zu pflegen.

Re: [Talk-de] Oeffnungszeiten (hier: Zoo)

2008-04-24 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Dienstag 22 April 2008 schrieb Paul Lenz: Bei allen einrichtungen, die eine webpage haben, w?rde ich keine ?ffnungszeiten angeben. Nicht jeder hat mobiles Internet! Dann würde ich mich auch nicht darauf verlassen, dass die Oeffnungszeiten schon zu Hause auf mein Navi uebertragen

Re: [Talk-de] Trinkbrunnen

2008-04-24 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Mittwoch 23 April 2008 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hallo, was dem Deutschen sein Recyclingcontainer ist dem Italiener sein Trinkbrunnen (in OSM). Ist ja auch nichts gegen einzuwenden. Wenn Du ein geeignetes SVG-Symbol fuer Trinkbrunnen herbeischaffst, kann ich (und jeder andere mit

Re: [Talk-de] Datenschutz und OSM

2008-04-24 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Dienstag 22 April 2008 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hallo, Mich stört am allermeisten, dass der OSM Server keine GPx files annimmt, die keinen Zeit-Tag enthalten. Für was wird dieser gebraucht? Um die Punkte, wenn jemand anfragt, in einer Reihenfolge auszugeben. oehm, reicht nicht die

Re: [Talk-de] neues Worldfile vom 23.4.08

2008-04-24 Thread Carsten Schwede
Achtung, die Dateien haben die Standardimplementierung es scheint bei der neuen mkgmap-Version ein Fehler zu existieren, welcher die Kartenelemente entsprechend dem Standard wandelt, wie er im Programm einkompiliert ist. Ich mache grade neue Files mit einer älteren Version von mkgmap...

Re: [Talk-de] ?ffnungszeiten (hier: Zoo)

2008-04-24 Thread Michael Bergbauer
On Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 09:5052AM +0200, Guenther Meyer wrote: Am Dienstag 22 April 2008 schrieb Michael Bergbauer: Gerade bei solch eingeschränkten Öffnungszeiten würde sich die Angabe lohnen, weil das Risiko, vor verschlossenem Tor zu stehen, recht groß ist. Ich bin eigentlich

Re: [Talk-de] neues Worldfile vom 23.4.08

2008-04-24 Thread Carsten Schwede
Hallo, So, jetzt sind wieder die richtigen Elemente in der Karte vorhanden. Ihr könnt loslegen. :-) -- Viele Gruesse Computerteddy ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Datenschutz und OSM

2008-04-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, oehm, reicht nicht die reihenfolge der trackpunkte im gpx-file bereits aus, um die richtung zu bestimmen? daraus koennte der server ja eine relative nummerierung fuer interne zwecke ableiten... Ja, das ginge bestimmt. Derzeit wird halt von allen Trackpoints ein Timestamp

Re: [Talk-de] ?ffnungszeiten (hier: Zoo)

2008-04-24 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Donnerstag 24 April 2008 schrieb Michael Bergbauer: Oeffnungszeiten sind mitunter auch 'tagesaktuell'. Mir ists vor einiger Zeit passiert, dass ich an nem Lokal in dem ich Essen wollte freundlich aber sicher abgewiesen wurde: Geschlossene Gesellschaft. Gut, das ist nun ein ganz anderes

Re: [Talk-de] Berlin OSM Treffen?

2008-04-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Wenn wir einen der hinteren Tage, also Do oder Fr, nehmen wuerden, dann koennten wir interessierte Berliner, die am Stand vorbeischauen, sogar gleich zum Treffen einladen. [...] Als alter Ur-Berliner würde ich die Herausforderung durchaus annehmen und etwas passendes in

Re: [Talk-de] Speisekarten, Feiertage, Betriebsferien und dergleichen

2008-04-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
1. Re: ?ffnungszeiten (hier: Zoo) (Michael Bergbauer) From: Michael Bergbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oeffnungszeiten sind mitunter auch 'tagesaktuell'. Mir ists vor einiger Zeit passiert, dass ich an nem Lokal in dem ich Essen wollte freundlich aber sicher abgewiesen wurde: Geschlossene

[Talk-de] Landesgrenze in JOSM

2008-04-24 Thread Roland Spielhofer
Hallo, ich bin dabei, ein bisschen im Nordwesten Wiens zu vervollständigen... dabei ist mir aufgefallen, dass die Landesgrenze dort überhaupt nicht passt. Wie bekomme ich diese in JOSM zum korrigieren? Das ganze Wiener Stadtgebiet kann ich nicht vom Server laden, weil es zu groß ist (sagt der

Re: [Talk-de] Landesgrenze in JOSM

2008-04-24 Thread Juergen Buchner
Hallo! 2008/4/24 Roland Spielhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo, ich bin dabei, ein bisschen im Nordwesten Wiens zu vervollständigen... dabei ist mir aufgefallen, dass die Landesgrenze dort überhaupt nicht passt. Andererseits sind beim Laden von Ausschnitten nur Linien dabei, die komplett in

Re: [Talk-de] Landesgrenze in JOSM

2008-04-24 Thread Martin Simon
Am Donnerstag, 24. April 2008 20:34:03 schrieb Juergen Buchner: Hallo! 2008/4/24 Roland Spielhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo, ich bin dabei, ein bisschen im Nordwesten Wiens zu vervollständigen... dabei ist mir aufgefallen, dass die Landesgrenze dort überhaupt nicht passt. Andererseits

Re: [Talk-de] Landesgrenze in JOSM

2008-04-24 Thread Roland Spielhofer
Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:34:03 +0200 Von: Juergen Buchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk-de@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Landesgrenze in JOSM Hallo! 2008/4/24 Roland Spielhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo,

Re: [Talk-de] Landesgrenze in JOSM

2008-04-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, ich bin dabei, ein bisschen im Nordwesten Wiens zu vervollständigen... dabei ist mir aufgefallen, dass die Landesgrenze dort überhaupt nicht passt. Wie bekomme ich diese in JOSM zum korrigieren? Das ganze Wiener Stadtgebiet kann ich nicht vom Server laden, weil es zu groß ist (sagt

[Talk-de] OePNV Haltestellen

2008-04-24 Thread Henry Every
Hi, mir ist die Idee gekommen, den örtlichen OePNV-Anbieter mal zu fragen, ob der die Daten aller Haltestellen zur Verfuegung stellen wuerde. Hat einer von euch damit Erfahrungen ? Hier ist der Link zu deren Tool, http://avv.de/web/haupteins/busspur-download.php?schriftgrad=76 Ich weiss

[Talk-de] GPS für Einsteiger - Entscheidung

2008-04-24 Thread Bjoern Jensen
Hallo zusammen, vielen Dank für die vielen Antworten und die guten Tipps. Ich denke, ich werde mir ein Garmin Vista HCx oder Garmin Legend HCx besorgen (wobei ich eher zum Legend tendiere). Vielen Dank noch mal und bis demnächst :o) Gruß aus Hamburg, Bjoern -- Viele Grueße / Best regards

Re: [Talk-de] neues Worldfile vom 23.4.08

2008-04-24 Thread Dermot McNally
Hallo, wieder ist mir etwas aufgefallen, was auf den Garminkarten nicht so dargestellt wird, wie man hoffen würde. Es handelt sich hier um highway=*, area=yes, was ab und zu für Plätze benutzt wird, wie hier beschrieben: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:area Wie machbar ist das?

Re: [Talk-de] neues Worldfile vom 23.4.08

2008-04-24 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, Wie machbar ist das? Unterstützen die Garmingeräte solche Flächen? Garmingeräte schon, aber mkgmap konnte - zumindest als ich das letzte Mal damit herumgespielt habe, keine Mehrfachtags verarbeiten. Du konntest also *entweder* highway=pedestrian *oder* area=yes auf das Gerät bringen. Man

Re: [Talk-de] Oeffnungszeiten (hier: Zoo)

2008-04-24 Thread Andreas Jacob
Am Donnerstag, 24. April 2008 23:02:45 schrieb Sven Rautenberg: Ansonsten gibts irgendwann noch komplette enzyklopädische Artikel zu jedem getaggten Baum neben der Landstraße, inklusive Liste der Fahrer, die sich schon im denselben gewickelt haben. Wobei ich glaube, dass es bei dem einen

Re: [Talk-cz] Cyklotrasy - Praha

2008-04-24 Thread Martin Vidner
2008/4/23 Vaclav Stepan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ahoj, snazim se vyhodnotit, zda a jak by bylo realne pouzit OSM pro vektorove prekresleni cyklomapy Prahy z prahounakole.cz. Ahoj, Andy Allan generuje cyklistickou variantu OSM:

Re: [Talk-cz] tagovani a renderovani

2008-04-24 Thread Jiri Klement
Na planet.osm opravdu ne, ale na czechia.osm je to ok. Napriklad vytazeni ref vsech silnic trva asi 10 sekund a 800mb ram. Urcite to by slo udelat rychleji, ale XSLT je vysokourovnovy jazyk, takze se to da napsat opravdu rychle. On 4/24/08, BH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XSLT je dobre na mensi

Re: [Talk-cz] tagovani a renderovani

2008-04-24 Thread Jiri Klement
Jeste to upresnim. Behem tech 10 sekund se nejenom vytahnou silnice, ale take se zkontroluje, jestli silnice se stejnym jmenem existuje v databance rsd. Takze to s tou efektivitou xslt neni az tak hrozny. On 4/24/08, Jiri Klement [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Na planet.osm opravdu ne, ale na

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapování Plzně

2008-04-24 Thread Michal Kovar
To by me zajimalo - ale jak mam ty lidi kontaktovat? Vcera jsem se na to ptal, ale nikdo nezareagoval - nejak se vsichni probrali po zime a je to tu jako x-chat :) On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:15:58 +0200, Kubajz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nic Ti nebrani :] Jukni do osmarenderu na jmena lidi, co

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapování Plzně

2008-04-24 Thread Jiri Klement
Nevim jakym zpusobem se uzivatele daji vyhledavat, ale kdyz zadas adresu ve formatu: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jmeno uzivatele, treba: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jttt tak mas moznost poslat uzivateli zpravu. Jmeno cloveka co naposledy upravoval way/node vidis v josm, v potlachu

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapování Plzně

2008-04-24 Thread Martin Vidner
Jmeno cloveka co naposledy upravoval way/node vidis v josm, v potlachu uvidis jmena vsech uzivatelu. Potlatch: H jako history. Webova mapa: slabe sede pismo v nejvetsim zvetseni varianty Osmarender. Martin ___ Talk-cz mailing list

Re: [Talk-cz] Cyklotrasy - Praha

2008-04-24 Thread Vaclav Stepan
Ahoj, tak to jsou oboje výborné zprávy :-) Jdu si zkusit ujasnit chaos v Pražském značení... Vašek On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Jachym Cepicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ahoj, Vaclav Stepan píše v St 23. 04. 2008 v 23:52 +0200: 3. Routing Tady pro mne zacina terra-incognita.

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapování Plzně

2008-04-24 Thread Michal Kovar
Jmeno znam, ale nevedel jsem jak kontaktovat - dik moc, jdu na to :) On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:54:15 +0200, Jiri Klement [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nevim jakym zpusobem se uzivatele daji vyhledavat, ale kdyz zadas adresu ve formatu: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jmeno uzivatele, treba:

Re: [Talk-cz] Cyklotrasy - Praha

2008-04-24 Thread Pavel Machek
Ahoj! snazim se vyhodnotit, zda a jak by bylo realne pouzit OSM pro vektorove prekresleni cyklomapy Prahy z prahounakole.cz. Zatim jsem narazil na nasledujici otazky (a mozna reseni). Pac bych nerad zpusobil nejaky zbytecny chaos (resp. nezadouci zmeny dat), prosim o komentare: 1.

Re: [Talk-cz] tagovani a renderovani

2008-04-24 Thread BH
Mozna zalezi i na tom, jaky se pouzije XSLT parser. Ja jsem s czechii a vytahavanim silnic na 1 GB ram pohorel. Tak jsem si napsal vlastni radoby-xml-parser v perlu, navic v nem sly udelat lepe i veci na vystup posli jen ty nody, ktere jsou nekde referencovane :) Martin On 4/24/08, Jiri Klement

Re: [Talk-cz] tagovani a renderovani

2008-04-24 Thread Jiri Klement
Pouzivam saxon8. Jinak vyber referencovanych nodu je snadny: xsl:copy-of select=key('nodeKey', $ways/nd/@ref)/ kde $way je promena se seznamem cest, ktery se predem nejak vyfiltrovali a nodeKey je index definovany takto: xsl:key name=nodeKey match=//osm/node use=@id/ Stejne hlavni duvod pro

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Bonjour a tous,

2008-04-24 Thread Marc Quinton
2008/4/23 Arnaud CORBET [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tout dépends de ce comment la ville a réalisé le dit document: tres bon message, merci pour toute cette information synthétique. Je pense qu'il faudra faire la synthèse sur le wiki. J'ai pour ma part réalisée cette lettre que l'on pourra compléter

[OSM-talk-fr] [Rappel] 3ère Réunion Franco phone

2008-04-24 Thread JonathanMM
Bonjour, juste un petit rappel pour la prochaine réunion francophone, qui se déroulera le mercredi 7 mai à 21h, toujours sur le channel IRC. On a toujours pas d'ordre du jour, alors, pensez a en ajouter ;) : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/3%C3%A8me_R%C3%A9union_Francophone_IRC

[OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre

2008-04-24 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
L'utilisation du cadastre est revenue deux fois dans des discutions. Afin de clarifier les choses, j'ouvre un sujet dédié. Pour rappel, le cadastre est consultable gratuitement en ligne à l'adresse cadastre.gouv.fr Licence : Arnaud CORBET a dit dans un récent message que la licence du cadastre

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Here be dragons

2008-04-24 Thread Steven Le Roux
2008/4/24 murphy2712. nospam [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Je ne suis pas sûr que ce soit utile de dessiner dessus car seuls les zooms 12 sont régénérés automatiquement. A mon avis une simple demande de rendu en zoom 8 devrait suffir. j'en lance un pour voir avec une de mes machines... ça ira vite.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre

2008-04-24 Thread Pierre Mauduit
Salut, Quelqu'un connaît-il le format des coordonnés utilisés par le cadastre ? Par exemple pour Lyon on a des coordonnés du type (X=793634,Y=88915) Je suis prêt écrire un utilitaire pour permettre la conversion si quelqu'un m'explique ces coordonnés. gis=# SELECT AsText(TRANSFORM(way,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre

2008-04-24 Thread Denis
Vincent MEURISSE a écrit : L'utilisation du cadastre est revenue deux fois dans des discutions. Afin de clarifier les choses, j'ouvre un sujet dédié. Pour rappel, le cadastre est consultable gratuitement en ligne à l'adresse cadastre.gouv.fr Licence : Arnaud CORBET a dit dans un récent

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Here be dragons

2008-04-24 Thread Michel
Bon la tile a un smou je supprime mon sapin de noel. Steven Le Roux a écrit : 2008/4/24 murphy2712. nospam [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Je ne suis pas sûr que ce soit utile de dessiner dessus car seuls les zooms 12 sont régénérés automatiquement. A mon avis une simple demande de rendu en zoom 8

[OSM-talk-fr] Re : Cadastre

2008-04-24 Thread Arnaud CORBET
La licence du cadastre avait été discutée il y a quelques temps, et il était clair pour moi qu'elle autorisait jusqu'à l'exploitation commerciale de documents enrichis basés sur le cadastre. Grosso modo c'était vous ne vendez pas le cadastre en l'état, c'est nous qui nous en chargeons, mais si

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] source(s)

2008-04-24 Thread Olivier Boudet
Le cadastre est-il suffisement préçis pour l'utiliser en tant que source géométrique ? Je pose la question car je n'y connais rien, mais si la réponse est non alors un tag du genre ferait l'affaire : source=GPS;cadastre (géométrie réalisée avec GPS, noms pris sur le cadastre)

[OSM-talk-fr] De l'utilité d'OSM pour la Gen darmerie Nationale

2008-04-24 Thread s1057802
Bonjour à tous, La gendarmerie nationale a fait parler d'elle en début de semaine à l'occasion du lancement d'un site web pour relancer l'enquête sur la disparition de Jonathan Coulom il y a 4 ans. A l'occasion d'un sujet au JT, je vois que le site utilise des cartes pour situer les lieux de