Re: [OSM-talk] Applicability of wiki tagging and votes: may, should or must

David Marchal wrote: > What is the applicability of the Wiki content? Three long-standing principles of OSM: 1. consensus is important 2. precedent is important 3. patches beat "should" The first means that you can't order the community to do things based on ten people voting on the

Re: [OSRM-talk] OSRM-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 8

Artur Bialecki wrote: I would like to use OSRM with bus routes. Basically I only want to extract and route against nodes and ways that belong to relation route=bus|tram|trolleybus OSRM doesn't currently support route relations. You can either 'paint' ways that are members of relations with a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] new wiki page ODbL compatibility of common licenses

dieterdreist wrote: > Following a thread on the OSMF-talk list, I am kindly asking you to > review and improve a new wiki page that tries to give an overview > about the compatibility of common licenses with the ODbL and CT: This is really good. Thanks, Martin. cheers Richard -- View this

[OSM-talk] Proposal to close newbies@ list

Hi all, Usage of the newb...@openstreetmap.org mailing list, set up in 2007 to provide help to new users, has dwindled to almost nothing. There were no posts in September, October, November, or December. Generally we now have better places to provide help to new users - principally

Re: [OSM-talk] switch2osm documentation upgrade (was: Re: Tile Server manual build 15.10 troubleshooting)

Daniel Koć wrote: > BTW: who is the maintainer of switch2osm site? I was not able to > find any contact informations there. I am, though a few other people also have admin/editing rights. Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] switch2osm documentation upgrade

Daniel Koć wrote: > Oh, "Find Out More" page has some contact informations, but I > guess "Contact" or "About us" would be easier to find. The page recommends that you use IRC in the first instance, and also suggests help.osm.org for asking questions. I really do not want to get into providing

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to amalgamate two relations?

Dave F. wrote: > Is there an easy way to transfer the newer data into the > original relation? In P2: - Select a way belonging to both relations, adding them if needs be - In the \/ menu next to the new relation (Advanced panel), choose 'Select all members' - In the \/ menu next to the original

Re: [OSM-talk] Project OSM2VectorTiles.org launched

Stefan Keller wrote: > OSM2VectorTiles is a project simplifying installation of free > world maps maintained by OpenStreetMap community. Looks interesting - nice work! If I may just pick you up on one statement in the thesis: "There also exists a method[17] that circumvents using a database

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch down?

Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > Is it just me or is the OSM's built-in potlatch editor not currently > working? Should be fixed now. TomH identified that a Passenger upgrade caused requests to break, though exactly why isn't yet clear... Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

John Goodman wrote: > And if its searching facility is braindead Please avoid being gratuitously offensive by describing something that lots of volunteers have put countless hours into as "braindead". Thank you. Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Involving Cyclists in OSM

Clifford Snow wrote: > I want to make sure I cover the salient points that would interest > cyclists. If you know of any websites that use bike routes or > otherwise make use of OSM data that would really be great. Where do I start...? :) Cycling and OSM have long been bedfellows. In Europe

Re: [Talk-GB] route relations type=road

Dave F. wrote: > I've always read the brackets to mean 'leading to' or 'via' not as being > shared. From the Highway Code: "Motorways shown in brackets can > also be reached along the route indicated." Yes, exactly. Because they're just numbers, not routes, the brackets simply mean "if you

Re: [Talk-GB] route relations type=road

Colin Smale wrote: > Where two roads are multiplexed, it looks like one of the refs is > the primary and is shown without brackets, and the other is shown > within brackets, such as the A22 near Uckfield which multiplexes > with the A26. It is shown as "Eastbourne A22 / Lewes (A26)". > Is this

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Conference

Ian Dees wrote: > As someone currently planning a more community-focused SOTM US, I'd > be interested in hearing what sort of changes you would propose to > the existing SOTM structure. It's a great question to ask; and I realise this may sound a little contrarian, but I actually find myself

Re: [OSRM-talk] public transport routing

Daniel J H wrote: If you want to implement the transit routing yourself, a solid start is Connection Scan --- "Intriguingly Simple and Fast Transit Routing" quite easy to implement but also has its limitations. Not sure whether it's de rigeur to mention Mapzen on the mailing list of a

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

Christoph Hormann wrote: > And if on http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1300 i read: > > "Please draw one large area outline around groups of buildings > and tag them landuse=residential" > > that is in violation of one of the core principles of OSM, namely > to map reality, what's on the ground.

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

Blake Girardot wrote: > As to the original issue Ramm raised: Frederik's first name is Frederik. It's not that uncommon. :) Please can we avoid this becoming _really_ unnecessarily confrontational by calling people by their surnames in a sort of English public school style ("go it, molesworth,

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

Richard Welty wrote: > the key thing, i think, is that mappers have little motivation to > work on route relations if they don't actually get used by > anything. Don't forget that the issue is not an endemic issue with route relations, it's just an osm2pgsql issue. osm2pgsql is the most

Re: [Talk-GB] Restoring a usable map service!

Lester Caine wrote: > while switch2osm may well produce a working system for > some ... I have to also support current paying traffic on the > hardware and that prevents running too many different > competing web services. You can run a tileserver for the UK on a £10/month virtual machine. If

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

Matthijs Melissen wrote: > Today, v2.36.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has > been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org > servers. It might still take a couple of days before all tiles > show the new rendering. Congratulations to all involved - real dedication to the cause

Re: [OSM-talk] License files

Malcolm Herring wrote: > The copyright page on the Wiki seems to only refer to tiles The canonical copyright pages for OSM are http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License not whatever Xxzme might have mauled on wiki.osm.org. Richard -- View this

[Talk-GB] One for the London mappers

Slightly surprised this hasn't appeared on OSM yet...! Richard Original Message Subject: TfL Press Release - First section of Mayor’s North-South Cycle Superhighway opens ‎ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:52:39 + From: TfL Press Office To:

Re: [Talk-us] Increasing the number of US Mappers

Paul Norman wrote: > The problem is that if you make a discussion group too small, it > doesn't have enough activity to sustain interest in it. > > Larger regions might work, but even a statewide group abandons > the might meet for a geobeer idea where it takes 6 hours to drive > across the

Re: [Talk-us] Increasing the number of US Mappers

On 15/10/2015 14:28, Bryan Housel wrote: Agree with everything you said about *why* groups are important, except that: now that it's 2015, Facebook groups is really a better place for this. Yeah... but no. Every time this comes up, someone suggests "use my favoured platform". Which might be

Re: [Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

Elliott Plack wrote: > I am now leaning towards the shoulder tag, and perhaps > recommending that the routing tools consider that. I'd be genuinely delighted to add shoulder support to cycle.travel when there's more than a trace number of shoulder tags present in the OSM database - missing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

Alex Barth wrote: > Fixing the license surely can't be the extent of our plan, but we need > to be able to have a frank conversation about how licensing is hurting > use cases and engagement on OSM, without second guessing > people's intentions and without just showing them the door to > TomTom

Re: [Talk-GB] weekly 271

Manfred A. Reiter wrote: > The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 271 Weekly OSM is brilliant. Thank you. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/weekly-271-tp5856069p5856075.html Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Talk-us] Another road classification disagreement (this time with HFCS in Kansas)

Greg Troxel wrote: > It's perfectly reasonable to have an unpaved highway=secondary in > rural areas, if that's one of the major roads around. ...with the proviso that it _must_ be tagged as surface=unpaved (or a more detailed tag, such as surface=gravel or surface=dirt). Standard tagging in

Re: [Talk-GB] Village, Hamlet and populations ...

Richard Symonds wrote: > Perhaps it would be better to, instead of having a hierarchy based > on definitions, instead having a hierarchy based on pure population > size. That's what the population= tag is for. :) Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Now it is done with railways and may be stopped. But if > completely dismantled railways are not deleted from OSM > what would stop somebody interested in mapping completely > destroyed buildings, canals etc? You're absolutely right. We should also stop mapping bus

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > The line is going through multiple buildings and a wide low > wall. That's as unambiguous as it gets. The lack of any > other sign on the grass and highway areas are an additional > good hint. If you're mapping a railroad here, you're mapping > the past. Haha. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Railways yet again (was "THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject")

Frederik Ramm wrote: > But what if I have said the same thing five times already and the > others STILL don't see that I'm RIGHT Please try not to bring OSMF board meeting conventions onto the talk list. cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-us] Another road classification disagreement (this time with HFCS in Kansas)

Richard Welty wrote: > i could see having an HFCS tag which carries that value for > informational purposes, but it shouldn't control our own classification. In the UK we use the designation= tag to record official classifications which might not be reflected in the highway type - I'd commend

Re: [Talk-us] Another road classification disagreement (this time with HFCS in Kansas)

Richie Kennedy wrote: > As to Mr. Fairhurst’s comment regarding routing, I’ll remind you > it is frowned upon to tag for a routing engine. Given that Mr Fairhurst has been involved in OSM since month 4 in 2004, he is quite aware of what is frowned upon and what isn't, but he thanks you for your

Re: [OSM-talk] Three-months ban is over

Ilya Zverev wrote (re: Xxzme): > For me, it's clear that the ban did not work, and nothing has changed. Quoting Xxzme on the wiki: "What is clear to me is that you make ~0 improments to Main namespace "And constantly repeating yourself with magical "purpose" of Beginners' guide which was clearly

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

Steve Bennett wrote [quoting DELWP]: > My initial response is that we wouldn't want OSM to apply a more > restrictive license than ours In which case they've chosen the wrong licence. If you license your work under a permissive, attribution-only licence (CC-BY), then you are automatically

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Therefore I will delete any object that no longer exists or never existed (after communication with mapper or other method to verify whatever I am mistaken, with exception of highway= proposed). OSM would be a better, and nicer, place if people went out and did

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

moltonel 3x Combo wrote: Remember that interpreting osm data is actually a lot of work. Very few people have the manpower to verify what railroad= dismantled actually mean to decide wheter they want to use or filter out that data. Most of them will just match railway=*, plus perhaps some

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

Frederik Ramm wrote: What everybody can see is a clearing or change in the surface of something. That's fine to map. Inferring from that that there must have been a railway there is a step too far. We are mappers, not trappers. Ok, let's try an experiment. Go to

Re: [Talk-us] Does anybody know if these PA maps are legal to use to get info from for OSM?

James Mast wrote: I mean, would he have to at least verify that the license for those maps is compatible with OSM first Yes, and it isn't. The licence has lots of clauses that aren't compatible with ODbL, the Contributor Terms or indeed any open licence:

Re: [Talk-GB] UK style rendering port ...

Lester Caine wrote: The other area that I am looking to roll back First, I wouldn't think in terms of rolling back at all. Cartography for a UK tileset could and should be designed from scratch. If you really want to start with an existing tileset then use OSM Bright, not osm-carto, but I'm not

Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct

Dan S wrote: Sounds good. Mind if I ask how it is done? (i.e. rendering rules for rural vs town) Post-import, I run a couple of queries along the lines of UPDATE planet_osm_point SET urban=true FROM built_up_areas WHERE ST_Contains(built_up_areas.geom,way) using a pre-existing

Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct

Andy Townsend wrote: OSM's standard map is currently trying to be the primary feedback mechanism to mappers but also have clear design (1). I genuinely don't believe that you can do both well in one map style. I think you can, but it requires serious cartographical chops, and - ideally -

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM data without modifying - are there any guidelines?

John Bergmayer wrote: The problem being, of course, assuming there is no property right, there's only a contract, not a license. Contracts are not enforceable against third parties. A person who makes OSM data available without conditioning it on acceptance of the same contract, may

Re: [OSM-talk] Mappers and apps should focus on relations at the very start

Jo wrote: even more sorry you stopped being the lead developer of iD For the record: the mantle of lead developer of iD passed to Tom and John immediately after SOTM-US Portland because it was wonderfully clear that their JavaScript skills are pretty much on a different planet to mine, and I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM data without modifying - are there any guidelines?

Simon Poole wrote: As the name of this list says it is legal talk (aka yapping without consequence) ... not get-help-from-the-OSMF. With my list admin hat on, I think that's a little harsh. Often, as you say, queries can be resolved by pointing to the relevant published guidelines and there's

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rendu OSM avec dénivelé?

Shohreh a écrit: C'est mieux que rien, mais 1) un routeur qui prend en compte le dénivelé avant de calculer cycle.travel le prend en compte. :) 2) utilise une carte topo en fond de carte cycle.travel utilise une carte topo (ex.: http://cycle.travel/map?lat=46.6166lon=7.1714zoom=14) Richard

Re: [Talk-us] cycle.travel US bike routing, and unreviewed rural TIGER

Harald Kliems wrote: Until then you could consider a user setting to avoid/not avoid unpaved roads. Unfortunately contraction hierarchies - the routing algorithm used by OSRM - don't really allow user settings. For each distinct routing profile, you need to regenerate the routing graph, which

Re: [Talk-us] cycle.travel US bike routing, and unreviewed rural TIGER

Just as a postscript to this discussion I thought I'd cite an example area. If you look here, in Georgia: http://cycle.travel/map?lat=31.9023lon=-84.0398zoom=14 you'll see that most of the roads are unreviewed TIGER residentials. Of those, these are adjacent to each other:

Re: [Talk-us] cycle.travel US bike routing, and unreviewed rural TIGER

SteveA wrote: Richard (Fairhurst), if cycle.travel/map's router logic is not paying attention to surface= tags, perhaps it should, as doing so truly can improve selected routes It very much does - it'll look at surface=, and failing that tracktype= or smoothness=, as one of the principal

Re: [Talk-us] cycle.travel US bike routing, and unreviewed rural TIGER

Harald Kliems wrote: Very nice, Richard! One quick comment: I might not be the only who doesn't always change the tiger:reviewed tag when fixing TIGER-imported roads. I don't know if that's technically feasible, but maybe it would be better to check if a way has been modified since

[Talk-us] cycle.travel US bike routing, and unreviewed rural TIGER

Hi all, At State of the Map US last weekend I was really pleased to unveil bicycle routing for the US (and Canada) at my site, cycle.travel. The planner, at http://cycle.travel/map , will plan a bike route for you between any two points - whether in the same city or on opposite sides of the

[OSM-talk] What's your OSM story?

In just over a week's time it's State of the Map US (yay). I'm giving a talk which will touch on why people contribute to OSM - and how we can get more! I'd love to hear your story as to what got you started. I know there's some good Serious Research on the topic, but for now I'm more

Re: [Talk-GB] too many universities in Cambridge

David Earl wrote: Can you put that on a different thread. David - could you trim messages before replying? 1 line of message for 100 line of quote isn't good. Thanks. Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSRM-talk] Use another data source than OSM

Patrick Niklaus wrote: I think cycle.travel runs on data from Ordnance Survy. So it is absolutely doable, but I don't think you will find any importers (targeting OSRM) for commercial data sources as OpenSource. (most providers require you to sign a NDA before you are allowed to even look at the

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

Andy Mabbett wrote: In the absence of blatant vandalism or base abuse, I would have expected, first, a recent, clear and unequivocal warning on the user's talk page No. Please remember that the primary means of discussion and consensus in OSM is mailing lists, even when the subject is the

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

Ilya Zverev wrote: Who banned Xxzme in wiki a while ago? Please do it again. Seconded. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Please-ban-Xxzme-in-wiki-tp5843984p5843986.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

Bryce Nesbitt wrote: What can we assume the UK tag waterway=elsan_point means? One or more of: 1) Walk up toilet 2) Cassette dump for boats 3) Cassette dump for motorhomes 4) Pump out Very firmly and unambiguously 2. I propose making the assumption the present elsan_point tag means*

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

Frederik Ramm wrote: The problem of OSM editors being confused by a strange line that cuts through houses in the editor perhaps. Which is perhaps 0.1% of the (largely rural) abandoned railroads mapped in OSM, so largely immaterial to the discussion. And if you're confused by that 0.1%, heaven

Re: [Talk-us] Boundaries and verifiability (was Re: Retagging hamlets in the US)

Greg Morgan wrote: 2. To quote Richard Fairhurst, Seriously, OSM in the [England] s still way beyond broken. You can open it at any random location and the map is just __fictional__. Here are two random examples bing;OS StreetView [2] shape is approximate. Needs proper survey as mostly

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing across parks

Dave F. wrote: On Richard F. cycle.travel routing. How do reset start again? There's a Close route button at the top of the turn-by-turn directions - click that and it'll clear the route. cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

brycenesbitt wrote: Are there any additional comments on the issue of importing (actually synchronizing) 500 bicycle repair stations? With this import OSM would become the most comprehensive database of repair station locations. Where the location is good, it would be great to have these in

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations

Minh Nguyen wrote: I think we should consider a mechanical edit to update these tags While you're thinking about GNIS mechanical edits, could I suggest one for GNIS-sourced POIs with (historical) in the name? There are several gazillion amenity=post_office, name=Fred Creek Post Office

[Talk-us] Bike route relation issues

Hi all, I've encountered two problematic bike route relations in the US and would appreciate thoughts as to the best way to deal with them. One is the Great Divide Mountain Bike Route: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3161159 The other is I-5 in Oregon:

Re: [OSRM-talk] Issue with chosing a sub-optimal route

Rudolf Mayer wrote: Ideal should be http://osrm.at/atu, which however gets a slower time computed - and I don't really understand why... - Both ways have the same speed limit (ro:Urban) - The second option is shorter The trunk road (219294960) has smoothness=very_bad set on it. This will

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 - Is it still being developed? Tasks?

Dave F. wrote: I still use P2, I've tried the others a few times, but keep returning. Is it still being developed? I've noticed a 'tasks' button has been added. Yes, it is, albeit sporadically. Now it's free of the pressure of being the default editor, it's able to gain a few more unusual

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Balance of power (was: Re: How to vote to match your view)

[Apologies to talk@ readers for this follow-up to a post on osmf-talk@. I'm not an OSMF member and therefore can't post to osmf-talk@, but as I'm being spoken about over there, I'd appreciate the opportunity to respond.] Steve Coast wrote: See, there was no group that mobbed Richard out the

[OSM-talk] Unelected OSMF advisers

I am a little concerned that the (already overwhelming) task of fixing OSMF, which has been entrusted to a board of seven good people, is being made still harder by people in mysterious unelected roles offering their advice. I know of at least two: Mike Collinson is chair of the (AIUI

Re: [OSM-talk] Unelected OSMF advisers

Michael Collinson wrote: For transparency, I have attended about one year of board meetings now I think (it is minuted). I took the approach that I should simply listen and pick up items that the MT could handle. I was however encouraged to take a more participatory role provided that I do not

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Fix a Forest - experimental tiles from US Forest Service data

On 11/11/2014 20:57, Clifford Snow wrote: Suggestion - set the tile background to transparent so we can see underlying image in JOSM. I can certainly have a look at doing that. Do you/anyone know whether transparent tiles would still be usable in iD? cheers Richard

[Talk-us] Fix a Forest - experimental tiles from US Forest Service data

Hi all, I've created a set of tiles from US Forest Service road data for the 155 US National Forests. This is to help with TIGER fixup in these rural areas, where tracks, trails and entirely non-existent paths are often tagged with a bare highway=residential. The US Forest Service data is

Re: [Talk-us] Fix a Forest - experimental tiles from US Forest Service data

On 11/11/2014 20:57, Clifford Snow wrote: Suggestion - set the tile background to transparent so we can see underlying image in JOSM. I can certainly have a look at doing that. Do you/anyone know whether transparent tiles would still be usable in iD? cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Regarding community guidelines for map layers

Matt Morrow wrote: That is in contradiction to the Open Data License/Use Cases page. Please don't use that page. As per the preamble: This wiki page was used for discussion and development of the move to the Open Database License. It is not legal advice, and is likely to be inaccurate or

Re: [Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

Matthijs Melissen wrote: I therefore think inviting list members to vote in order to make the position of the community explicit - in addition to taking comments on the mailing list into account, not as a replacement of it - is the safest way to proceed. On reflection, it would be more

Re: [Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

Dan S wrote: Also, Matthijs sent out an RFC email proposing this whole process - he got lots of feedback (which he has taken into consideration), but no-one objected to the voting mechanism. It's not your fault if you only just noticed this happening, of course Indeed, which I only just

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap ten years on, and why it's time for a fresh slate

This one's going to be long, but it might be worth it, I hope. I've been involved in OSM for almost ten years now. 22nd November is my OSM birthday: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2004-November/000111.html Message 000111. Right now talk@ is up to 71235, never mind the

[OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

Simon Poole wrote: Kathleen Danielson wrote: That said, I would like to voice my support for Richard's suggestion that the full board step down. It simply is a very unrealistic option given that it would require a mechanism that doesn't exist to force all board members to resign. Absolutely

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

[this was originally posted to osmf-talk; I'm not a member of OSMF so can't reply to it there. I'm also breaking my self-imposed discipline of not posting to the talk@ list for this, but I figure it's important] Sarah Hoffman wrote: while checking the candidate list for the upcoming board

Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits

A friendly thought from across the pond; just something to provoke thoughts, feel free to disregard. OSM in the US is without doubt the #1 country at organising conferences. I was privileged enough to go to Portland and SF and they were both superb events. (This year's SOTM-EU in Karlsruhe was,

[OSM-talk] osmf-talk list

For those who (like me) are not members of OSMF there are a couple of interesting discussions on the osmf-talk list that you may like to observe. Only OSMF members can post to osmf-talk, but anyone can read. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2014-September/date.html Richard

Re: [Talk-GB] NCN279 Exeter to Okehampton: Secret Cycle Route?

Guy Collins wrote: NCN279 is now also part of the international Tour De Manche route, a route around Northern France and Southern England. Given the recent addition to the international cycle route I am surprised it is still not signed better (at all!). Will have to investigate when I

Re: [Talk-GB] NCN 279 Exeter to Okehampton (and other destructions)

Guy Collins wrote: The cycle route from Exeter to Okehampton, formerly NCN 28 seems to have been removed in this change set: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/15675074 It had the wrong route reference, it now being 279. I have added it once and will not be adding it back on to the

Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)

Greg Morgan wrote: It feels like the discussion is about fixing a routing problem when in reality you would exclude people that want to make it to Cleator Arizona or other recreational destinations. The people at the Cleator Bar and Yacht Club[4] would question your judgement that this a

Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)

Richard Welty wrote: agreed. i have spent quite a lot of time in Iowa farming territory where the road grid consists mostly of high quality, well maintained gravel roads that are in regular, heavy use by farm equipment. i generally give these highway=unclassified, surface=gravel. Great

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

Russ Nelson wrote: I fear that the deletionism infection has jumped from Wikipedia to OpenStreetMap. ...is exactly what I was going to say. Seriously, OSM in the US, outside a few cities, is still way beyond broken. You can open it at any random location and the map is just fictional. (I did,

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

Mike N. wrote: Landing on the high plains desert in the west does not make a good case that OSM in the US is broken. Desert imagery cues do not match those of conventional climates. I really wish I could agree with you, Mike, but my experience is that ~75% of the US landmass is like that.

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of British canals.

Hi Richard, I am working my way around the canals of Britain, tracing the canal banks and tidying up locks etc. Your work is really welcome and as someone with a particular interest in the British canals I'm glad to see it taking place. In terms of playing nice with the OSM community, rather

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

Andrew Hain wrote: It was only put in recently and I personally find it unhelpful. Would anyone object to removing it? Yes. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/City-names-translation-tp5813645p5813705.html Sent from the Great Britain mailing list

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

Admin note: nominally I'm administrator of the legal-talk@ list. In practice the only international OSM list to ever have been announced as moderated is talk@, and I think locally talk-us@ may be moderated as well. Merely administered is a much more light-touch approach and generally works well

Re: [OSM-talk] cycle.travel bike routing for Western Europe

I'm pleased to report that http://cycle.travel/map now defaults to kilometres for European routes. :) cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/cycle-travel-bike-routing-for-Western-Europe-tp5811759p5811927.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing

[OSM-talk] cycle.travel bike routing for Western Europe

Hi all, I'm really pleased to announce that http://cycle.travel/ now has OSM-based cycle routing for Western Europe: France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Austria, Italy, Spain, Portugal, the UK and Ireland. You can try it here:

Re: [OSM-talk] cycle.travel bike routing for Western Europe

Maarten Deen wrote: It's nice and fast! But it is not really apt in finding shortest or quickest routes. I entered my daily commute (from 51.3207,5.9888 to 51.5428,5.9827, permalink does not work properly) and it comes with a (for me new) route of 18.3 miles (=29.45 km) in 2:02. If I move

Re: [OSM-talk] cycle.travel bike routing for Western Europe

Maarten Deen wrote: So, can't I just ask shortest or quickest road? As you say, the router has no idea about traffic levels. I mean, if a router can't give me either shortest or quickest, then I always think I get some random route that is not optimal in any aspect. Nope, it doesn't and

Re: [OSM-talk] cycle.travel bike routing for Western Europe

colliar wrote: 1. How are separate drawn cycleways next to roads handled ? It prefers cycleways to roads, so it'll usually route via the cycleways (assuming they're properly connected). 2. Neither traffic_light/crossing nor shape turns are evaluated. There's a routing penalty for traffic

Re: [OSM-talk] cycle.travel bike routing for Western Europe

sabas88 wrote: it looks really nice! Thanks! :) One quick note, it's possible to have routes (also) in metric units? Yep, definitely. I'm working on making it the default for Europe but, for now, you can log in and set your user profile to prefer kilometres. cheers Richard -- View this

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

[I'm going to break my rule of not posting to the mailing lists for this, because it's an interesting query and important for OSM. Since I started writing this, Robert has made an excellent posting which covers much of the same ground and comes to related conclusions, but from a slightly different

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Martijn van Exel wrote: I would love to see these routes in OSM, and I think it's a shame that there is such an ongoing fuss about it. May I gently offer some experience from n years of both mapping and developing National Cycle Network routes in the UK. (As well as being an OSMer I'm a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

Paul Norman wrote: Is there any relevant case law on substantial? A brief reminder that there are two useful wiki pages: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Statute_law http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Case_law which collect links to useful papers and cases. In particular Charlotte Waelde's paper

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [oxoncotswolds] Tysoe Mapping Party

On 04/04/2014 11:42, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone Just had confirmation from Mike Sanderson of Tysoe Parish Council that May 31st is the preferred date for their Mapping Party (refreshments provided!) and publicity will be going out in the Parish Magazine shortly. So book the date. Tysoe is

Re: [OSRM-talk] Beginner question: default car profile and tracktype/smoothness/surface

Michal Palenik wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 01:57:23PM -0300, Fernando Trebien wrote: But I don't think we can easily implement different interpretations of the tags on a per-country basis. in postgis/anyspatialdatabase, this would be fairly easy (except for filling in the data by

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