Re: [Vo]:Swedish Radio : advertising a scam ?

Galantini performed the dryness measurement 2011/11/13 Mary Yugo > Did I get the wrong guy? Who measured the dryness of steam with a Testo > HVAC meter? Thanks for any correction. > > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Michele Comitini < > michele.comit...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 2011/11/13 Mary

Re: [Vo]:Oct. 28 demo: 3716 liters of water vaporized

I haven't been able to find a published journal article to get the kind of detailed information that would enable me to assess Robert E. Godes, Brillouin Energy Corp. energy claims and theory -- I haven't succeeded in developing a discussion with him. So, as yet, the lack of detailed public evide

Re: [Vo]:Was it ever detected isotopes with "medium" half lives in transmutations

If you read Mileys results, he produced 39 elements many new with diverging isotopic concentrations. One of the most interesting parts of Miley’s work (presented in the slides) is that he has created a unique analysis tool to do precise but broad based analysis of content of elements within the

Re: [Vo]:Oct. 28 demo: 3716 liters of water vaporized

Rich Murray: Re: Joshua Cude, can you assess Robert E. Godes, Brillouin Energy Corp. energy claims and theory? Rich Murray 2011.02.27 http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg43133.html You brought up Brillouin Energy Corporation awhile back. You asked for some reaction from people.

Re: [Vo]:

also, the barking dog: "MU!!!" an excellent teaching -- I never read that book -- thanks! Would you sponsor me as a member of the CMNS group? I trust that whatever you decide is a good decision. No one owes me an explanation for any decision they make. with appreciation, Rich On Sun, Nov 13,

Re: [Vo]:Was it ever detected isotopes with "medium" half lives in transmutations

What about other elements than tritium? Tritium is a consequence of the decay of Lithium and Berilium formed by the successive stages of deuterium fusion or hydrogen, for example. I am thinking more about heavier elements, that should be formed by transmutation of the containing lattice. 2011/11/1

[Vo]:a modest proposal

I'd like to offer a modest proposal: namely, that we all forget Rossi and focus on how to move the field of LENR forward, either to a definitive demonstration that it has potential we should pursue with greater resources, or to a recognition that there's no "there" there, and that we should look

Re: [Vo]:Was it ever detected isotopes with "medium" half lives in transmutations

See Reports of tritium production from Rossi-like experiments Jones Beene http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg49057.html On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Oh! Nice! Would you mind showing a paper with such transmutation? Perhaps > an example in each order of

Re: [Vo]:Oct. 28 demo: 3716 liters of water vaporized

Well, Mary Yugo, I find the similarities between Steorn and Rossi pretty compelling -- you've shifted my attitude a lot -- it's less plausible for me now to hope that Rossi is merely deluded, rather than running a competent scam -- you suggest it is actually to carry out such a scam and get away wi

[Vo]:test, ignore

test, ignore.  thank you.

Re: [Vo]:Was it ever detected isotopes with "medium" half lives in transmutations

Oh! Nice! Would you mind showing a paper with such transmutation? Perhaps an example in each order of magnitude in the interval. 2011/11/14 Jones Beene > *From:* Daniel Rocha > > ** ** > > **Ø **Before seeing it, I am referring to transmutations of cold fusion. > I wonder why such isotope

RE: [Vo]:Was it ever detected isotopes with "medium" half lives in transmutations

From: Daniel Rocha * Before seeing it, I am referring to transmutations of cold fusion. I wonder why such isotopes haven't been seen, as far as I could search the literature. Not sure what you are referring to, but there are many isotopes in that stability range - notably radium 226 (1,

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

Mary Yugo wrote: > Even then, as recently as 6 months ago, someone sank another > half million Euros in Steorn. I found that pretty amazing. I guess > there are always some people who are beyond help and don't > listen to reason. If this is the case and Steorn is a fraud, then those who have inv

Re: [Vo]:Order Form

Because of the overall, all enveloping unity within which we all operate and cooperate, in every exchange between ALL being A and ALL being B is that A mirrors B to B, while B mirrors A to A, if one studies the actual transactions: "...Will you never run out of excuses and "plausible but totally f

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

No, neither Scott nor Marissa replied to my emails months ago re Rossi -- apparently their tea leaves were so dry re this claim that they floated right away into nanodust -- as the Knight said to Death in Bergman's The Seventh Seal, while they were playing chess for life or death (for the Knight...

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

uh, Zen doesn't exist either, while reports of my survival are premature... Ri ch a r ... On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Rich Murray wrote: > > Mary Yugo has competent, courteous company in her

Re: [Vo]:Order Form

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > What is this drivel? >> > An attempt at humor. Sorry it didn't rattle your funny bone! > Since when was putting people down humorous? Will you never run out of excuses and "plausible but totally fake explanations"? :D

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Rich Murray wrote: > Mary Yugo has competent, courteous company in her skepticism -- especially > Scott Little of earthtech.org in Austin, Texas, whose website displays an > excellent calorimeter and many careful attempts since about 1995 to > replicate CF experime

Re: [Vo]:Order Form

What is this drivel? > An attempt at humor. Sorry it didn't rattle your funny bone!

Re: [Vo]:Let Rossi Be Rossi?

Hear, hear! On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote: > > On 11/13/2011 1:15 PM, Vorl Bek wrote: > > >> Jed: I have had it with Mary Yugo. > > > > I think Mary Yugo is a good addition to this list. > > > > Mary Yugo's skepticism is better than excusing Rossi's odd > > behaviour on

[Vo]:The Saint

Do you believe in coincidence? Neither do I. Tonight Cinemax aired a poorly received movie, poorly received in 1997 when it was released. It starred Val Kilmer as the notorious Saint, Simon Templar, along with Elizabeth Shue as Dr.Emma Russell. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120053/ If you're no

Re: [Vo]:Was it ever detected isotopes with "medium" half lives in transmutations

Before seeing it, I am referring to transmutations of cold fusion. I wonder why such isotopes haven't been seen, as far as I could search the literature. Not finding such isotopes would be a sort of Huizenga's 4th miracle, because there isn't anything that would stop such isotopes from forming in

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

Mary Yugo has competent, courteous company in her skepticism -- especially Scott Little of earthtech.org in Austin, Texas, whose website displays an excellent calorimeter and many careful attempts since about 1995 to replicate CF experiments, including SPAWAR codeposition with D-Pd in a lithium ch

Re: [Vo]:Let Rossi Be Rossi?

On 11/13/2011 1:15 PM, Vorl Bek wrote: >> I have had it with Mary Yugo. > > I think Mary Yugo is a good addition to this list. > > Mary Yugo's skepticism is better than excusing Rossi's odd > behaviour on the grounds that he must be an eccentric genius. I have no idea if Rossi is a scammer or i

Re: [Vo]:Was it ever detected isotopes with "medium" half lives in transmutations

There was a movie about this in 1952 http://www.hulu.com/watch/70146/tales-of-tomorrow-ahead-of-his-time Frank Znidarsic -Original Message- From: Daniel Rocha To: vortex-l Sent: Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:56 am Subject: [Vo]:Was it ever detected isotopes with "medium" half lives in tra

[Vo]:Ruby Carat speaking at a TEDx event on cold fusion

Ruby Carat ( 'Cold Fusion Now' Blogger) will be speaking at a TEDx event in Ft.Lauderdale, Florida December 10. Harry http://www.tedxftl.com/speakers.html Ruby Carat Commercial Cold Fusion – The Viable Alternative Energy A new energy technology based on cold fusion science has been commercializ

[Vo]:Letters to the Senate request hearings on DOE and USPO.

http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/ Letters to the Senate request hearings on DOE and USPO. November 10, 2011 tags: cold fusion, DOE, LENR, Senate Energy Committee, USPO by Ruby Carat This past week Cold Fusion Now sent letters to all the US Senators on the Energy Sub-Committee requesting heari

Re: [Vo]:NI-H cell replication, some thoughts

I will attempt to address this question from Aussie Guy E-Cat: “He would need another naked, so to speak, element heater to boil off the electrons needed to form the H- ions, once they were broken apart from the supplied H2.” I don’t think that this “boiling off” is required. First s

Re: [Vo]:Order Form

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Whoopee. I have to rush to put up an order form for my pink, invisible > flying unicorns that make free energy. What is this drivel?

Re: [Vo]:Order Form

Wooops. Even Rossi can't stand those guys any more, LOL. From: “Andrea Rossi – Leonardo Corp.” To: “Sterling Allan” Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 12:16 PM Subject: Re: temporary notice posted Sterling, please: all the website is not approved, please take out from the net all the website. I h

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

see http://www.new.ans.org/pubs/journals/fst/a_114 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > It's also possible that cold fusion occurs in nature, and through the >> eons, the copper we see around us is the product of the same reaction. >> > > What reaction is that? > > >

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

It's also possible that cold fusion occurs in nature, and through the > eons, the copper we see around us is the product of the same reaction. > What reaction is that?

Re: [Vo]:Boiling at 0g

test -- please disregard On Nov 13, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Michele Comitini wrote: > Quite different from what we are used to: > > http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2001/09/03/ast07sep_2_resources/bubble0g.mpg > > Full article here: > > http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa

[Vo]:Boiling at 0g

Quite different from what we are used to: http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2001/09/03/ast07sep_2_resources/bubble0g.mpg Full article here: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast07sep_2/ mic

Re: [Vo]:Let Rossi Be Rossi?

In reply to Peter Heckert's message of Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:51:08 +0100: Hi, [snip] >Andrea Rossi > > * >November 13th, 2011 at 9:34 AM > > > >Dear Bernie Koppenhofer: >Yes, we are working on this

Re: [Vo]:More on Radio-iodine

I was wondering how the big oil, big government conspiracy was going to discredit Rossi if he didn't manage to discredit himself enough (you know with silly web sites and more silly business plans.) But Jones you have found the build up of the back story for them to swoop in and claim Rossi is co

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor :sub-modules in PARALLEL

- Original Message - > At 07:16 AM 11/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > http://lenr-canr.org/RossiData/Higgins%20Oct%206%2027kWreactorDiagram4.png > c) Rossi has said that the 3 cores are in SERIES, and then the > fat-cats are connected in parallel. This would imply that water is > injected

[Vo]:More on Radio-iodine

Back in March, low levels of iodine-131 were found in rainwater in Massachusetts, not far from Rossi's New Hampshire Lab. The source was attribute to Fukushima, more or less by default (considering the coincidental timing). http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r-video/27338488/detail.html There is a

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 10:22 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote: > > OK, thanks. I guess in Rossi's case you look for transmutation to > copper isotopes. However, the one time this was done, the copper from > the "ash" from Rossi's machine had the EXACT isotope ratios that are > found in nature. That would

[Vo]:Was it ever detected isotopes with "medium" half lives in transmutations

I don't remember in seeing in any paper isotopes with half lives of 1year to 1 years. That is, pretty much stable for the time length of any practical experiment but unstable to the point leaving a deadly waste, even if in small quantities.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat web site up

Technical specifications Thermal Output Power 1 MW Electrical Input Power Peak 200 kW Electrical input Power Average 167 kW COP 6 Power Ranges 20 kW-1 MW Modules 52 Power per Module 20kW Water Pump brand Water Pump Pressure4 Bar Water Pump Capacity 1500 kg/hr Water Pump Ranges 30-1500 kg/hr Wat

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat web site up

http://www.leonardo-ecat.com/fp/Products/1MW_Plant/index.html NOTICE: November 13, 2011; 9:00 am MST Andrea Rossi has removed his "official" designation from this site until he has time to make certain corrections. Only those pages with the designation: "Approved by Andrea Rossi" should be consi

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

> > If you don't read the literature, you won't be able to tell apart what is > logical to what is illogical. I disagree. Rossi's claim is different from most of the others in cold fusion because it is so extravagant -- I mean come on! A megawatt for six months on a handful of inexpensive fuel?

Re: [Vo]:Let Rossi Be Rossi?

Am 13.11.2011 19:15, schrieb Vorl Bek: I have had it with Mary Yugo. I think Mary Yugo is a good addition to this list. Mary Yugo's skepticism is better than excusing Rossi's odd behaviour on the grounds that he must be an eccentric genius. Rossi seems like a scammer to me. Of course, I hope h

Re: [Vo]:The U.S. Patent Office's formal policy to reject all cold fusion applications

Rossi has a US Patent application: Ron --On Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:38 PM -0500 Jed Rothwell wrote: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mary Yugo

Re: [Vo]:Let Rossi Be Rossi?

I perfectly agree with you and consider that what Mary Yugo says is a necessary and useful part of the broad spectrum of opinions re Rossi. Being a convinced feminist, I think ladies can be rational and very smart and good scientists & technologists so I will abstain from asking her unpolitely if s

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

If you don't read the literature, you won't be able to tell apart what is logical to what is illogical. Besides, I am not a native speaker and gmail's dictionary offered a wrong correction. 2011/11/13 Mary Yugo > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> No time to study the lit

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

A few years ago you picked Steorn as your favourite hobby horse. Now you've picked Rossi. What's the connection? They get a lot of publicity and people are interested in them. So you manifest yourself in whichever place strikes your whimsy, pour forth from the abundance within your soul and try you

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > No time to study the literature but time to nagger and flood forums all > day with messages. > I have time to study about Rossi and directly related writings. I don't have time to read the thousands of seemingly inconclusive and difficult p

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Radio : advertising a scam ?

Did I get the wrong guy? Who measured the dryness of steam with a Testo HVAC meter? Thanks for any correction. On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Michele Comitini < michele.comit...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/11/13 Mary Yugo : > > The issue isn't only or even mainly the instruments except for Bianc

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

No time to study the literature but time to nagger and flood forums all day with messages. 2011/11/13 Mary Yugo > This test will not work. Cold fusion does not produce neutrons and it seldom produces radiation. I have told you that before. If you do not believe me, please review the l

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

> > This test will not work. Cold fusion does not produce neutrons and it >>> seldom produces radiation. I have told you that before. If you do not >>> believe me, please review the literature on your own. >>> >> >> Well that's inconvenient, isn't it? So we just look for anomalous heat >> and noth

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

I've checked the Ny Teknik video, and the jerrican valve is probably slightly open (the handle is not exactly perpendicular to the valve). Also, I think the two jerricans seem to be part of a contraption and may be connected together, because they are rotated 90 degrees with respect to each other.

[Vo]:Let Rossi Be Rossi?

> I have had it with Mary Yugo. I think Mary Yugo is a good addition to this list. Mary Yugo's skepticism is better than excusing Rossi's odd behaviour on the grounds that he must be an eccentric genius. Rossi seems like a scammer to me. Of course, I hope he really has come up with a wonder-work

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

Keeping "feet on fire" is a good way of wasting valuable research and development time. Would you like to do your work while some know-it-all smart alec is lobbing rocks at your skull? You justify your actions by saying it was a scam and total trash, by your estimate. Now you give the usual (the e

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote: > mary yugo appeared on the Steorn forums and has never been supportive of > any exotic energy technology developer, company or anything. > this pseudonym is just a hater. > Most people now believe that Steorn was a scam. Are you suggesting I sh

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

mary yugo appeared on the Steorn forums and has never been supportive of any exotic energy technology developer, company or anything. this pseudonym is just a hater. On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I have had it with Mary Yugo. She wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:Oct. 28 demo: 3716 liters of water vaporized

> It's pretty easy to scam a customer if you only sell one item and flee, if > you sell items so > cheaply that the duped find the cost of recovery higher than the value > recovered, or if the item sold is actually illegal. But selling large > industrial equipment to a > knowledgeable customer with

[Vo]:Rossi Updates/////// Propaganda

• mateo November 13th, 2011 at 12:55 AM Oops, posted my question too fast. I see your answer was: “The power generator had a power of 300 kW: it has been used not only to power the resistances of the reactors before they arrived to the self sustaining mode, but also to power the acce

[Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

I have had it with Mary Yugo. She wrote: This test will not work. Cold fusion does not produce neutrons and it >> seldom produces radiation. I have told you that before. If you do not >> believe me, please review the literature on your own. >> > > Well that's inconvenient, isn't it? So we just lo

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat web site up

Michele Comitini wrote: > The difference between a free informative website and a business website > is about selling. On a business if you damage potential sales, you are > doing a poor job with the website. Rossi's site does not look like, and it > is not a business site, it is very "amateuris

Re: [Vo]:Oct. 28 demo: 3716 liters of water vaporized

Sean True wrote: Customers exchange money for something that meets a current need. That > can be a need to use a device, a need to gain access to technology > early, or even a need to do some good. But in any case, there is a > contract (implicit or explicit) for an exchange of values. The proces

Re: [Vo]:The U.S. Patent Office's formal policy to reject all cold fusion applications

Mary Yugo is right that SPAWAR indeed made much in recent years of claimed evidence for neutron emission for D-Pd codeposition in lithium sulfate electrolyte -- no reports of replication by independent lab attempts in the Galileo Project, as reported in great detail on Krivit's site -- as usual, th

Re: [Vo]:Oct. 28 demo: 3716 liters of water vaporized

Something Jed said about customers spurred a thought about customers, investors, and the difference between them. Customers exchange money for something that meets a current need. That can be a need to use a device, a need to gain access to technology early, or even a need to do some good. But in

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

/snip/ Added valve on connection to jerrican. It indeed seems closed on the Ny Teknik video. I suppose it was opened at some point? /snip/ This is unclear. It is indeed where the 5 L of condensed water was measured. It does appear closed in the video (if it were open, water/steam/both would be

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

>I've added some 3.8 bar readings.  Albert, by "pressure meters onthe outlets >of the pumps",  >do you mean the pressure meters integrated into the pumps, or the ones I've >drawn? Exactly. My mistake, I somehow missed them last time. But I am not sure that there is any cross-connection between

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

This looks pretty good. Ask Rossi if this is correct. Send him the link. He may want to use it himself, on his website. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

Here is the third version : http://i.imgur.com/GbZri.png Changes - Added valve on connection to jerrican. It indeed seems closed on the Ny Teknik video. I suppose it was opened at some point? Did the 5l of unvaporized water mentioned in the report collect there? - Connected

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Radio : advertising a scam ?

2011/11/13 Mary Yugo : > The issue isn't only or even mainly the instruments except for Bianchini > using some silly Testo HVAC meter to pronounce the steam "dry" when the > meter couldn't do that. Bianchini measured radioactivity IIRC. mic

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat web site up

Il giorno 13/nov/2011 02:23, "Jed Rothwell" ha scritto: > > Michele Comitini wrote: > >> A. Final note >> There is a big difference between your efforts on http://www.lenr-canr.org and the e-cat site. The first is a service to the community, the other is for selling goods. > > > What is wrong wi

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

Am 13.11.2011 14:14, schrieb Albert: Here the precise link at 00:26:

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

>Here the precise link at >00:26: It is difficult to stop the video at this precise position. Check the picture of S. Allan and Rossi at http://pesn.com/2011/10/28/9501940_1_MW_E-Cat_Test_Successful/

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

Am 13.11.2011 13:49, schrieb Peter Heckert: Thanks, I did spot one of them at the right upper position. Didnt spot the other. It is absolutely clear to see in Sterling's video shortly after 00:23, but only for a fraction of a second. Here the precise link at 00:26:

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

Am 13.11.2011 13:31, schrieb Albert: Sorry. I see the red (pneumatic?) cylinders, and the green-black pumps with a grey cable connected and nothing else than pipes. I dont know for what else to look. What's the color? Follow the pipes upwards, past the pressure gauges. The meters are round, and

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

>Sorry. I see the red (pneumatic?) cylinders, and the green-black pumps with a >grey cable  >connected and nothing else than pipes. I dont know for what else to look. >What's the color? Follow the pipes upwards, past the pressure gauges. The meters are round, and the color of brass. They are of

Re: [Vo]:U of Bologna denies any involvement with Rossi

Am 13.11.2011 12:36, schrieb Jouni Valkonen: Interesting, according Krivit's sources Daniele Passerini, David Bianchini and Giuseppe Levi, all of them were present in 18 hour test that gave conclusive proof for the technology. I would say that bribing one person for a fround (Giuseppe) could be

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

Am 13.11.2011 12:43, schrieb Albert: <-There were only two flowmeters on the water from the pumps. The two pumps If you look at the videos by NyTeknik and S. Allan, you can see two in-line flow-through volume meters: one at outlet of the water pump at the short end of the container, and one

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

<-There were only two flowmeters on the water from the pumps. The two pumps

Re: [Vo]:U of Bologna denies any involvement with Rossi

2011/11/13 Jouni Valkonen : > The cost of bribing > one credible person is several kiloeuros, if not more. Errata: I meant that the cost is several _hundred_ kiloeuros. –Jouni

Re: [Vo]:U of Bologna denies any involvement with Rossi

Interesting, according Krivit's sources Daniele Passerini, David Bianchini and Giuseppe Levi, all of them were present in 18 hour test that gave conclusive proof for the technology. I would say that bribing one person for a fround (Giuseppe) could be reasonable. But bribing three independent and e

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

Am 13.11.2011 12:10, schrieb Albert: A couple of comments: -There were only two flowmeters on the water from the pumps. The two pumps without were not running. (There is a number of valves on the pipes from the pumps to the Ecats, but it is hard to know exactly the position on all of them fro

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

A couple of comments: -There were only two flowmeters on the water from the pumps. The two pumps without were not running. (There is a number of valves on the pipes from the pumps to the Ecats, but it is hard to know exactly the position on all of them from the videos.) -There was a valve on t

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

Hi, Am 13.11.2011 07:14, schrieb Berke Durak: After watching the available footage and looking at the pictures of the Oct. 28th demo, I have just drawn a diagram of the system as I think it was that day. http://i.imgur.com/Ipn7W.png Please report any inaccuracies or misuse of engineering symbo

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Bombshell - Orbo was all a sign error!

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:27 AM, wrote: > On 11/13/2011 2:57 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> I have a print-out of Steorn's report dated Oct. 31, 2008. At the moment >> I can't locate the pdf file, but I downloaded it from their website two or >> three years ago, and the name Mr. Rice does not appea

[Vo]:

My dear friends, I have just published : http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/11/informavores-sunday-no-481.html You will not find here a definitive answer for the E-cat Enigma just some vague suggestions how to proceed in such cases of informational chaos. You will be able to see much more clea

Re: [Vo]:New E-Cat customers to reveal their identity

On 11/13/2011 4:19 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: ... With just a moment of thought, I can remember some of the most prominent recent scams promoted by Allan on his site. One of these is, of course, Steorn. ... Allan (or at least Hank) is still promoting Steorn. Checkout this fairly recent and very pos

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Bombshell - Orbo was all a sign error!

On 11/13/2011 2:57 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: I have a print-out of Steorn's report dated Oct. 31, 2008. At the moment I can't locate the pdf file, but I downloaded it from their website two or three years ago, and the name Mr. Rice does not appear in this report. The title is _Asymmetry and Energ

Re: [Vo]:New E-Cat customers to reveal their identity

As far as I know, Stanley Meyer sincerely believed that his devices could > make energy from plain water. > How the heck does one flummox oneself into that conclusion? How long would it take to test conclusively a purported device said to do that? A minute? Less -- it would never be able to sta