BTW Further observing my own ability to feel, I arch my fingers back,
beyond merely straight.
This increases sensation.
What I wonder is if this is amplifying the sensation that is already there
from such a hand gesture.
It seems from my research that aetheric energy acts in a manner to amplify
an
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:21 AM, David L Babcock wrote:
> My hand can easily feel the radiant heat from my flat screen. This is
> stronger where whiter (brighter?). And so, yes I "felt something". (Did
> not try other body places, did not notice other sensations.)
>
Well then you are very sens
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:14 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> ** **
>
> I think the problem is the “audience” you have chosen is one that is
> presently looking hard for substantive physical effects, especially in
> light of the criticism of LENR (where intuition has met with strong
> c
Ok, Maybe no one is ready, since I have had zero testers give results
positive or negative.
But I want to give this a fresh chance due to apparent technical
difficulties the first time, excuse my persistence.
http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/7185/xens.png
http://aethericsciences.net78.net/user
Reading that page I came across: "In peril is the notion of “naturalness,”
Albert Einstein’s dream that the laws of nature are sublimely beautiful,
inevitable and self-contained. Without it, physicists face the harsh
prospect that those laws are just an arbitrary, messy outcome of random
fluctuatio
I got word that the site was down for at least one of you, well it works
for me (5 hours after your email), but if it still isn't working for others:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3314/rg.png
Thanks,
John
and skin on the
surface of your palm, and to move toward and away from the image.
Still I can often feel the energy on my face or eyes.
John
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:11 AM, John Berry wrote:
> But an important one.
> I have had quite a few Vorts report feeling energy from my images
But an important one.
I have had quite a few Vorts report feeling energy from my images in the
past, but I have no idea how many might not have reported a negative result.
I'd love if everyone that reads this could go to my site:
http://aethericsciences.net78.net/
And feel at least the top image
t Show 2013
> near the end of the year.
>
> This was the first one we did from last year:
> http://coldfusionnow.org/gallery/shift-2012-gallery/
>
>
>
> On 6/8/13 7:26 PM, John Berry wrote:
>
> Hey, for those who were open minded enough to explore this subject, I have
&
Hey, for those who were open minded enough to explore this subject, I have
made a new image that engineers the aether.
http://aethericsciences.net78.net/
This is based on the flower of life, but has a detail in the center that is
important.
It is the top image. (when I say that I mean the first
Well that didn't last long.
Comic Sans must be your default.
Also your font is still a bit large.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
John
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Roger B wrote:
> So, my idea is still viable? (:->)
>
> Roger
>
> --
> Date: Wed, 5
These are good questions.
The fine structure constant has been found to be quite inconstant at higher
than normal energies.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:06 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
> Roger,
>
> welcome…
>
> You might do a google search using ‘attosecond physics’…
>
> ** **
>
> and ta
It is interesting that it is seldom the other way round.
Someone who believes in something might want to share with others who are
open minded, but they have little interest in converting so-called
skeptics, they don't seek them out.
Pseudo-skeptics are not just content in stopping people from fal
Actually thinking about it. the reason these people reject big new thing is
because the have very small minds/vision, this is why they reject anything
big.
That is not the same as stupid, but literally they have very real limits to
them.
They reject these things because they want to keep a very s
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Joshua Cude wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:50 PM, John Berry wrote:
>
>> There is one very very simple truth.
>>
>> Many will never believe right up until a technology is widely available.
>>
>>
>
> If so, I thi
There is one very very simple truth.
Many will never believe right up until a technology is widely available.
No demonstration could convince them, maybe not even if they ran it
themselves.
And some won't believe even then, there are deniers and skeptics for
everything, moon landings, holocaust,
If he does not know such a simple thing, I think he can be safely ignored
as plainly he is significantly ignorant of basic physics.
Only toroidal coils/cores have negligible external detectable field.
And actually it is present but cancelled, hence only detected inductively.
Very long solenoids h
Abd seemed reasonable and respectable.
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
> I support him back. He is a a man of peace and understanding abd was
> defending the religion of his and his friends.
>
>
> 2013/5/30 Peter Gluck
>
>> Dear Bill,
>> Please bring Abd back! He knows a l
Reproducibility is indeed the crux of most alt/fringe science technologies.
Conventional science is not so willing to accept hard to reproduce effects
as real, effects where not all of the requirements for reproducibility are
known or readily controllable.
This does not mean that these effects ca
That sounds more like the religious concept of blind faith over reason.
I have faith that cold fusion isn't possible, therefore there must be an
error in any scientific evidence to the contrary.
It's right up there with the devil put dinosaur bones in the earth to
confuse us.
On Sun, May 19, 20
I'll pong even though you didn't ping.
Maybe I should just take a shower ;)
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM, William Beaty wrote:
>
>
> (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) )))
> William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website
> billb at amasci
If it is down, how am I reading this?
Did you get my pong response to your earlier ping?
Sent to list and you personally.
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:11 PM, William Beaty wrote:
> Apparently list servers at eskimo are down. Owner Bob D. had been making
> major changes to spam filtering to preve
Actually skeptics (correctly called pseudo skeptics) are far worse than
that.
They even disbelieve things that can be explained by establishment dogma.
I have heard that they disbelieved the effects of steroids initially
despite evidence.
And to this day vitamins and minerals are often ignored.
Indeed Jones, control of mammals has been long ago perfected :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7dRelyKzes
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
> It might be easier to breed or to hybridize a new species of large
> hornet or wasp, which are amenable to electronic control from a
Researchers at Cambridge University find proof for the existence of
significant amounts of Zero Point Energy in the non-conforming behavior of
certain molecules.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130426115449.htm
>
>
> I, for one, welcome our new robot masters...
>
I am pretty sure they will watch the Simpsons, then kill you because you
got the quote wrong, imperfection found, eliminate faulty human.
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
> to it, so won't even bother to investigate,
>
> or worse, will debunk it.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:51 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:New image, a
oyt A. Stearns Jr.
wrote:
> Surprisingly enough, I did feel a warmth where it says "Feel over the
> circle" even when I had my eyes closed and moved the image to a random
> place first!
>
> What's your algorithm for designing these drawings?****
>
&g
Hey, I have made a new image that might be more apparent for some.
And a website however basic/shoddy:
http://aethericsciences.net78.net/
The first image (after the text), open it up in a new window so it displays
are the correct size preferably.
John
e should work at any zoom level? I'm using a 24 inches LCD
> monitor.
>
> Mark Jordan
>
>
>
> On 19-Apr-13 21:35, John Berry wrote:
>
> Mark, I have made a new one especially for you.
>
> Now this image deals heavily with colour so it may not work if your
&g
hn
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 5:50 PM, John Berry wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:03 PM, John Berry wrote:
>>
>> You could argue that nothing really proves anything.
>>> Even atoms are still
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:03 PM, John Berry wrote:
>
> You could argue that nothing really proves anything.
>> Even atoms are still just considered a theory, sure a popular one with
>> tons of evidence.
>>
>
>
Please read this entire email, but if you don't, just read this:
*So what evidence exists for there not being an entrained aether?*
*None.*
You could argue that nothing really proves anything.
Even atoms are still just considered a theory, sure a popular one with tons
of evidence.
Atoms are of c
This is obviously a complex issue.
But I think that strong belief as with hypnosis and other suggestions can't
be discounted (faith healers).
There are people who have apparently died from being made to think they
they were having blood drain from their bodies.
And if someone goes into surgery wit
Actually, it does say that: One estimated that the so-called effect size (a
measure of statistical significance) in placebo groups had nearly doubled
over that time.
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:18 PM, John Berry wrote:
> I said that the placebo effect had about doubled in effectiveness o
I said that the placebo effect had about doubled in effectiveness over what
it had been.
Someone asked for the source.
I am sure a better search of google will turn up more info on that, but
here is an article about it getting more effective without (I think)
mentioning a doubling:
http://www.wire
The CIA (or it's predecessor) had apparent genuine interest in the ideas
from Get Smart (as crazy as that sound).
I can't help but wonder if the TV Program Person of Interest is causing
similar but more secretive interest.
Of course the TV program could be a fictional disclosure of something real,
013 at 12:08 PM, James Bowery wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM, John Berry wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 2:57 AM, James Bowery wrote:
>>>
>>> So, let me ask you again for an acceptable control experiment but in
>>
at 1:21 AM, MJ wrote:
>
> Have tried every image you posted and feel nothing besides the heat
> from the monitor's backlight.
>
> In hope,
> Mark Jordan
>
>
>
> On 19/4/2013 09:51, John Berry wrote:
>
> BTW an added interesting detail.
>
>
device in a pocket that happened to 'hit' the person.
John
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:07 PM, John Berry wrote:
>
>> First off, thank you for at least considering this.
>>
>> Yes I a bit frustrated that no one new has reported even trying these
>> i
out?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:20 PM, John Berry wrote:
>
>> All should work, but it does make a difference.
>> LED/LCD seems best, I have not yet tried it on a CRT.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>>
>>> On F
... what? I'm missing something. A drawing is supposed to be
> generating an energy flow?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:00 AM, John Berry wrote:
>
>> http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4113/shooterv6.png
>>
>> Place your palm to the side of your monitor with palm
All should work, but it does make a difference.
LED/LCD seems best, I have not yet tried it on a CRT.
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:05 AM, John Berry
> wrote:
> > To the RIGHT side of your monitor.
>
> Does it matter if you
13 at 1:21 AM, MJ wrote:
>
> Have tried every image you posted and feel nothing besides the heat
> from the monitor's backlight.
>
> In hope,
> Mark Jordan
>
>
>
> On 19/4/2013 09:51, John Berry wrote:
>
> BTW an added interesting detail.
>
&g
stop working as the light does not
convey far enough.
John
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:05 PM, John Berry wrote:
> To the RIGHT side of your monitor.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:00 PM, John Berry wrote:
>
>> http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4113/shooterv6.png
>>
&
To the RIGHT side of your monitor.
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:00 PM, John Berry wrote:
> http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4113/shooterv6.png
>
> Place your palm to the side of your monitor with palm facing edge of the
> monitor.
>
> Another person from the list has emailed m
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4113/shooterv6.png
Place your palm to the side of your monitor with palm facing edge of the
monitor.
Another person from the list has emailed me privately to say they felt
something very subtle in their hand inline with the horizontal line running
through an ear
> a bunch of "skeptics" that they had the strength of numbers on their side.
>
> So how about showing me the respect that I showed you by asking you what
> YOU would consider to be an acceptable control experiment?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:09 PM, James
ent that could distinguish
> between placebo and real effect? What about double blind?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM, John Berry wrote:
>
>> Let me add that I also know that this has nothing to do with visual
>> effects because this is only one form I have used
2013 at 9:14 AM, John Berry wrote:
> This is not made to effect the eye or brain.
> It works with eyes closed.
> As do images that look like a solid colour to the eyes, they still work
> (due to subtle colour variation the eye can't make out).
>
> If you put the 'shoot
ject as based on ether theory.
>
> Regards
>
> Fran
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:05 AM
>
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theo
." --from the preface to Principia
>
>
> Today, we don't have to confine ourselves to mechanical practices when
> drawing geometry so we can draw different worlds into existence.
>
>
>
> Harry
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:56 AM, John Berry w
g them one on top of the other might affect each other. Aether
> does permeate everything and so shielding or isolating them could be an
> issue. Hence the questions about distance. I may have to bring cards into
> range one at a time.
>
> Gibson
> -
es to see if there was anything which showed up on a gram
> scale (comparing face up to face down). There was nothing objective, but I
> am using a laser printer so the color did not contribute.****
>
> ** **
>
> Jones
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* John Berry
>
>
No replies, hmmm.
I have sent this to 5 people on this list privately.
2 have repoted back, they both felt something. (one of those took a while
before I made one he could feel)
And 3 failed to reply all together, ignoring me outright.
So I can image some peoples minds might be too limited to tr
Has no one tried it yet?
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:56 AM, John Berry wrote:
> And a 3rd image to try to feel, this contains recent development with
> some previous ones.
> http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6251/rotational.png
>
> All in an effort to reduce the odds of havin
r any sensations.
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:43 PM, John Berry wrote:
> A worthwhile improvement for both images:
>
> http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1139/lateststrongest4.png
>
> http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6029/shooterv54.png
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:32
A worthwhile improvement for both images:
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1139/lateststrongest4.png
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6029/shooterv54.png
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:32 PM, John Berry wrote:
> I sent the wrong image by mistake, the first link should have been this
&g
I sent the wrong image by mistake, the first link should have been this one:
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4411/thelateststrongest2.png
which is not meant to break SR since the very fabric of
space is moving.
So really, there is tons of evidence for an aether by various different
names accepted in physics.
John
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:07 PM, William Beaty wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:20:59, John Berry wrote:
> &
It is worth noting that Yildiz might not have expected his motor to fail.
And as such did not think that the load was very important.
A fan is a perfect load for being unobtrusive, imagine the doubt if he had
it turn an electrical generator?
And unlike a prony brake (plus you would not leave a fric
st, IMHO the
> ether is moving through our 3D plane at a rate that defines our basic unit
> of time and is why we will always experience C as 300 million m/s –if the
> ether were to vary we would be blissfully unaware of it as our “awareness”
> will always match the rate of the ether passing
e
> direction vs the other..allowing us to tap the translation for energy as if
> the car was changing velocities… also note that the vector for occupants of
> this NAE – car is now toward negative 90 degrees and it is we who appear
> to slow down from dilation from the perspective of the
I have been in Vo's ugly nest of believers for a very long time.
I think in general a more accurate sentence might be a nest of skeptics and
jaded ex-believers (oh, and some nuts and trolls, and nutty trolls).
Anyway I have some developments in the direction of influencing the aether
sufficient t
Is earths gravity getting weaker by an apple falling
It is now earth plus an apple, and if enough apples fell, the gravity would
increase further, eventually measurably increasing earths gravity, and
creating an apple sauce layer of course.
And ultimately an very appley black hole.
On Mon, A
You have failed to tackle the real question.
If we have say a permanent magnet, and a C core, as we pass the magnet into
the C core, an inductive field is established.
If the inductive field will also effect the atoms, and if the material is
aligned, then the aligned atoms will have energy induced
Well one interesting thought is if we have a magnet, and there is nothing
else magnetic, then no energy can be tapped from it, but it still cost the
same to establish the field.
Additionally it we let iron particle cover our magnet until there is
no observable outside field (still there really, bu
So there are two somewhat simple possibilities.
1: Magnets become demagnetized, the energy stored in their fields is
depleted.
2: The magnets enter a state of greater attraction or greater repulsion or
both over the run, this is essentially then a high tech spring that is
being unwound.
But do ei
I have current interesting evidence for unparticles.
I can generate something that I and most people can feel, and yet is only
very weakly interactive with matter.
It is easy to try if anyone want to give it a shot.
John
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Axil Axil wrote:
>
> http://physicsworl
Well there is a theory that goes that a chunk of Antimatter might not
explosively annihilate, but like a drop of water in a hot pan rolling
frictionlessly on a layer of steam.
The outer portion reacts so violently that is stops any large
scale annihilation taking place, leading to a slow burn inste
ached overhang around If the part can be built
> with no detached overhang island, or with a temporary suoport making no
> detached island then DMLS should be
> capable of building any shape.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:18 PM, John Berry wrote:
>
>>
>>
> I previously tried to use the low cost stainless service from shpaeways
> and it had issues with hollow parts and dimensional precision.
>
>
Indeed, their method can't do hollow, and the other method can't do
overhanging pieces.
So you can design something that is impossible to be made by either
3D printers can use metal, glass and various other materials.
Semiconductors can be printed, as can batteries.
Now I don't think there is any that can do all of these things of course.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> I wrote:
>
>
>> It seems unlikely to me that anyone w
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Eric Walker wrote:
> I suspect there is an invalid assumption about randomness that we are making
> when we go along with the old thought experiment of a corps of eternally
> typing monkeys eventually producing Shakespeare's folio or imagining that the
> folio c
It is interesting to note that the complete works of Shakespeare must
also occur in Pi somewhere. (irrational, non ending and non
repetitive)
But because you would have to convert the numbers to letters, you
would need to group them and since you would get many numbers over 26
it would take a very
Interesting.
I had not heard of mirror matter before, Definite shares of a certain Star
Trek episode.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
> The unspoken assumption is that the asteroid is composed of normal
> matter – and if so, then it would take substantial mass to deflect it
Ok, I think there is something that David and I myself are unclear on...
Let's say you take IR radiation, so what is that?
A high frequency EM wave in the Teraherz range, if you have a nano antenna
and diodes suited it could maybe be rectified directly to usable power,
since this can be done with
True, although it does say that equally charged spheres would always repel.
Still there are other bits of evidence, for example:
http://www.rexresearch.com/ev/ev.htm
Semi-stable clusters of electrons.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
> Nice article. Makes me wonder if the s
I think it should be noted that black holes are not known to exit.
They are based on Einsteins theories and he didn't believe they existed.
They are an unproven theory.
John
Unless it breaks a different law of conservation of energy.
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 6:58 PM, David Roberson wrote:
> Robin, do you actually have to check to see if it gets cooler? Would it
> not be necessary for this to happen if heat energy is taken out of the
> system and put into the battery
urse. It can guide RF
> signals in one direction. It could allow RF to be sent from one device to
> the other but have no return path. It is a neat way to stabilize negative
> resistance devices. Perhaps this is a way to achieve your plan.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -Original
You are reminding me of an idea I had long ago.
Take 2 hot radiating objects.
Place then in a perfect thermal insulating container (for fun).
Now I have heard that a magnet can rotate the plane of polarization of
photons.
The second fact this is based on is that if you have 2 polarized lenses at
Only if you don't feed it any info from natural therapies (and alternative).
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Whoa! I just thought of an interesting scenario.
>
> That article says that the first application they intend to use Watson for
> his cancer treatment recommendatio
umidity. The reason of
> this was the experiments of John Kanzius showing salt water 'burned'. Ozone
> smell was very strong, and did not have a 'bitter' flavor which caused by
> cheap HV ozone generators (may Nitrogen compounds are also produced).
>
> Regard
Hey Hamdi, Long time.
I am re-interested in a coil that you reported generating Ozone at low
voltages.
Can you give some more detail on that one please?
Thanks,
John
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Hamdi Ucar wrote:
> Hello everybody remembering me,
>
> I had difficulty to join Vortex List b
Maybe acid.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:49 AM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
> Medical marijuana?
>
>
> On Thursday, January 10, 2013, John Berry wrote:
>
>> I am reluctant to ask, but what makes you believe that this is a useful
>> form of communication?
>>
>> W
I am reluctant to ask, but what makes you believe that this is a useful
form of communication?
What is it about this list that attracts such non-sense?
I am all for fringe science, but this is all straight jacket stuff.
Ugh.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan <
alset9te.
Consider though that inspiration is very vital to uplifting humanity.
Nothing is more inspirational in my books than reaching literally for the
stars.
A bigger picture might be just what they are lacking.
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:04 AM, wrote:
> I dropped off my mother at a local grocery store
While I think banning one or 2 might be a good idea.
Since Bill has shown a reluctance to do this maybe setting up a filter is
the best way.
I would rather have a list owner that allowed freedom over a dictator that
micromanaged it.
Maybe those who have actually contributed to the running cost wo
sequences of our
> actions before that happens. Again, make sure that the problem is real
> before panic rules your life. Time is available to do the science right as
> required and to find solutions.
>
You believe.
>
> Enough said about this issue.
>
> Dave
>
Good idea, I have filtered him so I am no longer able to be provoked by his
trolling.
Never setup a filter in gmail before, but not hard.
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:55 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson <
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From Abd:
>
> ...
>
> > ... Jojo shows no sign of
> > hav
toward solving the issues without panic.
>
> Do not worry, as long as we make it past the 21 st, all will be fine.
> Optimism trumps pessimism every time. Careful planning beats panic in
> just about every case.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Be
When I hear the expression "The Science Is Settled", it makes my blood
> boil. It has been stated many times before in our history and it is as
> wrong now as then. Why waste time following LENR when the science has been
> settled (according to most physicists) that it i
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:59 PM, David Roberson wrote:
>
> John, you must admit that Jojo has a point about proving that a problem
> truly exists before excess expense and time is dedicated to solving it.
>
Ok, so you are correct in that if there was no or very little and
insubstantial evidence f
with some people, but not with me.
>
> Maybe, it's best you do stop discussing with me cause the more you do, the
> more fallacious your arguments become and people can see that you are
> arguing from emotions rather than facts.
>
> Jojo
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -
>
widespread property damage, the crop failures, etc. A slight increase in
> temperature would make severe winters very mild, allowing for a better
> life. Haven't we learned this from history?
>
>
>
>
> Jojo
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *F
Are we sure that new stars will not be born?
If so then when could the last of those stop forming and burn out?
This is of course all based on the Big bang theory,which is not the only
theory nor the only possibility.
If you decide to listen to the minority not the majority this theory too
could b
Jed, you see the problem.
None of that is profitable to oil barons.
Did the US invade Afghanistan and Iraq for oil or sand?
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> John Berry wrote:
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>> I guess you could use this argument in other ways...
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>> I&#
Not super-nova, not nova, no explosion as such.
In 4-5 billion years it will expand to a red giant apparently, then
collapse into a white dwarf.
But the argument is so dishonest it really shows you are not worth
communicating with.
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
> I stand co
and "possibility". Why should we implement
> draconian measures to correct these "may", "if" and "possibility"?
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> Jojo
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