Stephen sez:
> I'd bet any amount that it fizzles.
>
> They've shown their true colors already; why believe anything they say
> about their alleged miraculous new technology?
>
> OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
>> http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com/2009/09/orbo-launch-countdown-begins-
FWIW,
Free Energy Times Interviews Sean McCarthy, of STEORN:
http://www.freeenergytimes.com/?p=46
Excerpts:
Here is a transcript of the email exchange which took place; Sean
McCarthy’s responses were sent to me on September 22, 2009.
...
FET: In a statement made earlier this year you stated t
>From Jones:
...
> Compared to Europe, where there is a significantly larger participation in
> eco-transportation – the situation here in the USA is terrible. I see my
> neighbor driving her 3-ton Land Rover SUV down the hill simply to get the
> mail. Then later she drives over to the health clu
As best as I can tell the on-going dispute between Mr. Rothwell and
Dr. Swartz appears to revolve around Dr. Swartz desire to prove that
Jed "censors" experimental data from CF researchers, himself included.
Meanwhile, from Jed's perspective, it would appear that Dr. Swartz
refuses to follow a few
For the record, and as best as I can tell, Dr. Swartz has never had
anything bad to say about anyone's mother.
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www.OrionWorks.com
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>From Robin and Abd:
>> Actually none of this is necessary. If it is posted on his own
>> website, then all you need on LENR-CANR.org is a URL pointing to
>> it iso to your own web site. It wouldn't matter in the slightest
>> to the rest of the world where the actual document resides.
>
> Robin ha
> If you have not dealt with a skeptic lately, here is a reminder of what they
> are like:
>
> http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=1940
>
> Scroll down to the bottom and you will see that this person absolutely
> rejects any paper not published in a U.S. peer-reviewed journal. He will not
> even
Chris sez:
Just imagine what would happen to our economy if we had a device like the
> Replicator on Startrek. Anyone could have anything from clothing to gold
> bars to Earl Grey Tea instantly. The overall effect would be profoundly
> deflationary and the only jobs that remained would be menial
Pete sez:
> Terry Blanton wrote:
>
>> I have the vacuums; but, $300 seems a bit much for a 10 inch fan.
>
> $29.95 at Home Depot once the Chinese slave labor camps start churning
> them out
Time for another political purge.
Hey! It's just business. Nothing personal.
Regards
Steven Vincent John
http://www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/forecast/archive/chinas-control-over-rare-minerals-troubles.html
http://tinyurl.com/yl7tfxv
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Harry sez:
> Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet for the first time
>
> Researchers from the Helmholtz Centre Berlin, in cooperation with
> colleagues from Dresden, St. Andrews, La Plata and Oxford, have for the
> first time observed magnetic monopoles and how they emerge in a real
> mate
Frank sez:
> I don't know. My niece found in at Barns and Nobile in Tampa.
> I found it in Books a Million in Charlotte. It is very good work.
> Its everywhere, however, its as if it were a non event.
>
> Frank Z
Patience, you must have. Fame and fortune are the values a scientist
must worship
Hoyt sez:
> However, since Steorn and BlackPower are coming out with
> free energy technologies soon it's kind of irrelevent about
> efficiency, isn't it?
Even a hypothetical "free energy" BLP generator in my basement would
end up costing me something, though presumably a lot less than what
I'm c
Jed sez:
...
> It may be that a few people who spend a lot of effort disputing
> the Mills theory. I have heard there are some on the Mills
> discussion group. But that is an unusual case. That theory
> attracts a lot of interest.
...
You speculate "it may be" ???
It certainly has generated pl
An interesting "Moon" article:
Title: "Found: first 'skylight' on the moon"
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18030-found-first-skylight-on-the-moon.html
http://tinyurl.com/ykgfsrd
Excerpt:
Finding such an opening could be a boon for possible human exploration
of the moon (see What NASA's
Terry sez:
> Ackshully, rampant speculation preceded this announcement due to the
> LCROSS debacle:
>
> http://www.enterprisemission.com/SmokingGun.htm
>
> http://www.enterprisemission.com/SmokingGun2.htm
>
> Enjoy!
Let the games begin!
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzl
Xcuse me as another non-scientist butts in,
>From Lawry:
> Jed, a point of information, from this non-scientist:
>
> I understand that you are saying that heat, above all else,
> is the required product, and that any other products are of
> secondary importance when it comes to asserting that the
Mike sez:
> This discussion ignores the elephant in the room. a) Heat is *fundamental*
> and scalar, particles and radiation are not. Because it is fundamental, many
> factors affect heat and careful experimental technique is essential. b)
> Commercial value [i.e. money] is for utility for motive
>From Horace:
> http://www.emdrive.com/
>
> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/10/impossible-drive-designers-dream-flying-cars-stealth-missiles/
We’ve seen the photograph of this contraption in the past. I’m sure
this topic has been discussed within the Vort Collective, if one were
to go throug
Abd sez:
> The idea that excess heat is easier to detect reliably than
> radiation is downright weird.
It might seem weird to you.
But it's a probably whole lot safer looking for anomalous heat as
compared to anomalous neutrons and other sub-atomic particles.
I have a story to recount.
Many ye
Jed sez:
>> They will write impassioned ballads of unfortunate ships flung out
>> of the solar system.
> I think it is more likely they will dispatch a ship to repair or tow
> the derelict ship back to the nearest port.
You are, of course, correct. Alas, taking the romance out of
exploiting anot
They will write impassioned ballads of unfortunate ships flung out of
the solar system.
David Bowe, who wrote the haunting ballad "Ground Control to Major
Tom" is probably prophetic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Tom
http://tinyurl.com/yhp8ts8
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www.OrionWorks.com
>From Robin,
> In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:33:34 -0400:
> Hi,
> [snip]
>>Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
>>> (BTW minimum travel time to Mars at
>>> 1 g is 2 days.)
>>
>>I did not know it was that close. Any idea what the max is?
>
> The simplest calculation yields 4.5 da
>From Mr. Lawrence
> Some of you may have been debating whether to get the vaccine or not.
>
> Here are a couple of personal observations...
>
> -- They say it's not very deadly. Well, I guess it's not, we're all
> still alive here.
>
> -- They say it's not usually very serious. Well, I guess
Abd sez:
...
> I'm not ready yet, but, looking ahead, do you
> think I could get Robert Park to denounce my
> Kitchen Fusion kits?
Just drop him a line when you get up to speed. I bet he would oblige.
No problemo! ;-)
> (Too bad it's not fission, Kitchen Fission would
> be a great name. I supp
Mark & Jed sez:
...
>> Again, its a perception battle, and the goal is not to convince the diehard
>> (pathological) skeptics like Park; its to persuade the average Science or
>> Nature reader, the average researcher . . .
>
> That's true, and it is important. There is no point in trying to convi
"...sipping on Shackleton’s preferred hooch."
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2009/11/17/in-antarctica-drilling-for-100-year-old-whiskey/
http://tinyurl.com/yzce9vn
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www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Jed sez:
...
> It was published by the Agency. Just not on the Internet. It was released on
> Friday the 13th. Do you think I would upload unpublished material?!? Do you
> think I want to get in trouble with a Federal agency?
I presume not! ;-)
...but that does not answer the principal question
Jed sez:
> Steven V Johnson wrote:
>> ...but that does not answer the principal question: How does one
>> verify its pedigree?
>>
>> For those of us (particularly me!) who may not be as quick witted as
>> you appear to be can you clarify how you went about verifying the
>> presumed legitimacy of
Jed sez:
> (By the way, they said they can't provide it in Acrobat text format.
> A shame.)
Another fine example of our tax dollars working for our benefit!
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.orionworks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Jed sed:
> I guess you could ask the Agency but I expect your request would be
> lost in the shuffle.
and...
> I am sure of the pedigree because the authors sent me the document.
For which I sed:
> That's a good point. Thanks for revealing that little tidbit.
For which Jed sed:
> I said that
Jed sez:
...
> I can understand why mass media outlets such as CBS "60 Minutes" would have
> a large impact on public opinion. It is because many people watch
> television, and because the mass media -- especially broadcast media -- has
> a certain cachet or glamour that makes people believe what
Mauro sez:
> This is a good summary.
> Maybe you could publish a version of it somewhere at lenr-canr.org. It
> surely will not hurt, and could help first comers with doubts about the
> validity of the sources and the information presented.
...
I agree!
Write it up, Jed!
That is, during one of
Jed sez:
> Steven V Johnson wrote:
>>Mauro sez:
>>
>> > This is a good summary.
>> > Maybe you could publish a version of it somewhere at
>> > lenr-canr.org. It surely will not hurt, and could help
>> > first comers with doubts about the validity of the sources
>> > and the information presented.
Jones sez:
...
> Of course, there is *zero assurance* that the “clone of a genius” will
> follow in the footsteps of the progenitor...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_from_Brazil_(film)
Speaking of cloning, don't forget Sir Lawrence of Olivier
Regards
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www.OrionWork
Jed sez:
>> But IMHO, it seems to me that occasionally you DO care what
>> others think.
>I care what some people think. Especially intelligence analysts.
> My point is that it would be politically inept to bring up
> these issueson LENR-CANR.org. Imagine a contractor shows up at
> your door to d
Beaty sez:
>> What a creep! See: http://www.thedailybell.com/BellPage.asp?nid=604
> His article fails the basic pseudoscience test ...and he even
> MENTIONS this test for detecting pseudoscience!
>
> It might seem quite bizarre at first. Don't people typically use
> the Golden Rule, and apply th
>From Jeff Fink:
> THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM
>
> There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails. It shows that the
> scientists who have been pushing the man made global warming agenda have
> been suppressing and altering data.
...
Speaking of "agendas", read:
"THE FAMILY, The Secret Fun
In regards to STEORN, I sez:
> ... I myself have yet to reconcile within myself how STEORN's engineers could
> have gotten as far as they claim to have gotten with their alleged ORBO
> technology, but then not have pre-tested the prototype within the same harsh
> environment where it would go on p
Jed,
You might enjoy the following article from Times OnLine:
"Scientists grow pork meat in a laboratory"
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article6936352.ece
http://tinyurl.com/ycq7w86
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Steven Vincent Johnson sez:
>Jed,
>
> You might enjoy the following article from Times OnLine:
>
> "Scientists grow pork meat in a laboratory"
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article6936352.ece
> http://tinyurl.com/ycq7w86
Oh dear! I just HAVE to share one of the comments made b
Jed sez:
...
> Just imagine what this guy will say when meat from the cells of homo sapiens
> comes on the market.
>
> I think that is inevitable. See Arthur C. Clarke's short story, "Food of the
> Gods."
aka "long pork".
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/long_pork
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
w
Jed sez:
> Just imagine what this guy will say when meat from the cells of homo sapiens
> comes
> on the market.
>
> I think that is inevitable. See Arthur C. Clarke's short story, "Food of the
> Gods."
I must confess that my first reaction was one of revulsion. Me??? A
practicing cannibal T
Jed sez
> Seriously, so what? I honestly don't find anything scary about it. I admit I
> might hesitate to try the stuff myself. But I am not an adventurous eater.
I'm curious. Why do you suspect you might hesitate to sample it? Is it
still a cultural issue, like it might be for me? Do you suspec
Hollins sez:
> There are cultures where, at a certain age, the elderly
> are ritually killed, and served up to their tribe. NOT
> eating your dear aunt was considered dreadfully insulting
> to her spirit. Very tight family dynamics.
They must have read "Stranger in a Strange Land".
Regards
Stev
Examiner.com recently posted an article that obviously is not Al Gore
friendly, titled “Just how stupid is Al Gore, anyway?”
See:
http://www.examiner.com/x-31244-Louisville-Public-Policy-Examiner~y2009m12d3-Just-how-stupid-is-Al-Gore-anyway
http://tinyurl.com/yddzj6m
What piqued my curiosity wa
>From Jed:
> The whole thing is written by Pierre Carbonnelle, which explains why
> it is well researched.
On the home page I noticed Pierre is also interested in bequeathing
Alternapedia to another responsible party. I can bet it was a lot of
work to put together.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
Terry sez:
> On the other hand:
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,665824,00.html
>
> 12/08/2009
>
> Stone Age Mystery
> German Excavation Reveals Signs of Mass Cannibalism
>
> By Angelika Franz
> Was it mass cannibalism, ritual slaughter or both? Archaeologists
> who unearthe
Terry sez:
>> For a less palatable interpretation of this practice see "The Road"
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/
>
> I see the movie was just released.
>
> I sure you remember the ending to this one:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Boy_and_Hi
>From Esa Ruoho:
> Thanks for the phonenumber :-)
>
> iPoni sent dis message. Esa Ruoho wrote it.
>
> On 14.12.2009, at 18.16, Terry Blanton wrote:
>
>> From moletrap.co.uk home of the Village of the Damned, former forum
>> members of Steorn:
>>
>> CommentAuthor speccy
>> * CommentTime
>From Esa
> i rung them and they said the steorn demo starts tomorrow,
> and is closed from 24th onwards till the end of the year due
> to xmas hollies, but that it'll be open on 21st and 22nd,
> so i'll try and visit it. + its free, so hey.. brisk walk
> in dublin, maybe a few magnets. should be
Personally, I just wish the damned contraption was hooked up to a
light bulb. Hell! If the thing was doing nothing more than powering a
couple of energy efficient LEDs, for several weeks straight, now THAT
would impress me more than the current battery "recharging"
configuration.
For me, personall
>From Craig:
>> "Personally, I just wish the damned contraption was hooked
>> up to a light bulb. Hell! If the thing was doing nothing
>> more than powering a couple of energy efficient LEDs, for
>> several weeks straight, now THAT would impress me more than
>> the current battery "recharging"
>From Mr. Lawrence:
...
> This is not the behavior of someone [Newman] who is confused or ignorant.
> A confused, ignorant person who didn't quite understand what he was doing
> would not see the need to dodge the "trap" in the question, "what is the
> output power?". An honest person would try,
Hoyt,
Can you help us (me) out here... without violating the principals of the NDA.
Can it be conclusively proven (at least beyond a reasonable amount of
doubt) that the battery is in no way connected to the actual running
of the ORBO device?
This HAS to be dealt with. This HAS to be clarified.
Regarding recent comments made by Hoyt Stearns:
...
> Their strategy is rather bizarre, but in a way I think it is
> ingenious for many reasons (speculative):
>
> They must prove that their techniques are not "obvious to anyone
> skilled in the art" for patentability, even though they are
> extre
Terry sez:
>> Didn't someone have a theory that they were doing all this just to show how
>> good they are at running a PR campaign?
>
> Maybe that's it; otherwise, I can't figure them out.
>
> Why would they risk another failed demo after 2007?
I don't admit to having an answer, but I do know th
> Avatar trailers and clips (9 videos)
>
> http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809804784/video/17077180
Thanks for the link, Harry.
While watching one of the trailers I saw images that reminded me of a
painting I did back in 1979, when I was 27 years old.
http://orionworks.com/artgal/svj/path_m.htm
Jed sez:
> Response from website operator to me:
>
> Thank you for commenting on the Physics Today web site. Your comment has not
> been approved for publication in accordance with our editorial standards and
> the disclaimer on the web site.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Paul Guinnessy
> Manager, Physics Tod
Terry sez:
>> I sincerely believe this hypothesis to be true.
>
> Then you have never heard of Claxton, GA. Allow me to educate you:
>
> http://www.claxtonfruitcake.com/index.php
This website is an obvious clever hoax. I'm surprised that you fell
for it Terry! ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
Rick sez:
> I can't wait until the detection threshold comes down - like to the level of
> moons around these big planets. Bet that's where the action is as long as
> the system is in the liquid water zone.
I agree with this hypothesis. I've always felt that a lot of the real
action could very we
Terry sez:
>> By the way, I just noticed out at Steorn's home page that they have closed
>> the live stream to VIEW 2.
>
> On the Village of the Banned forum, there always seems to be someone
> watching and logging when the cameras are off or when "Tachoman" shows
> up to do maintenance on the mac
According to one of my latest Google news alerts Steorn just made CNN
news. However, I can't seem to find the link anywhere on cnn's web
site.
Does anyone know anything about this?
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>From Stephen Lawrence
...
> ... But he's [MADOFF] **NOT** held up as an example of a
> "successful" con artist, because he (a) had no exit strategy, ...
Ok, then then what's Steorn's "exit strategy?"
The whole Storn group (at the correct strategic moment) buys
themselves one-way tickets to th
Jed sez:
> The news that Steorn is advertising their own failure on Al Jazerra is mind
> boggling.
>
> What to make of this? Are these people extremely clever and using reverse
> psychology? Or are they what they appear to be: stupid, incoherent, and
> flapping around trying one scheme after anoth
>From Abd:
...
> Yet it appears to be working, Steven. You are making
> assumptions about how they will proceed, and, also,
> assumptions about what is involved in the NDAs.
Of course I'm making lots of assumptions. Some of them may even
stretch the sensibilities of Occam's Razor. Guilty as char
Terry sez:
> I am contacting Lenz Law Enforcement and ratting out Sean McCarthy. :-)
Mongo plans on watching, from a safe distance.
Regards
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www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>From Stephen Lawrence:
> ... Jed Rothwell wrote:
>>
>> At this point we need the academics. We should ignore the critics. The
>> Wrights should have! They should have dealt with the British War Office
>> instead of the U.S. War Department, because the British understood and
>> appreciated what t
>From Stephen Lawrence:
...
> ... Oh, I agree that Steorn's fate won't be resolved.
Mongo [in a rare moment of pensive self-reflection] tends to disagree.
Mongo want to see a light bulb real soon.
No light bulb soon, Mongo send candygram to Sean.
Light bulb! Light bulb! Light bulb!
Regards
S
Jed sez:
> That's astounding if true. Someone should acquaint Prof. Holmlid with cold
> fusion and the claims of Arata and others who have reported high loading of
> nano-particles.
>
> I nominate Jones Beene to write to him.
Seconded...
Regards
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www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazz
Kinda cool...
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/04/green.power.horizon/
Steve
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>From Stephen:
> The "theory of cold fusion" would be a theory explaining
> how such nuclei join, not simply the assertion that they do
> join. The assertion that fusion happens at room temperature
> is a simple binary statement, and is either true or false;
> it's quite different from what is me
>From Terry:
> Actually, the delay might be the result of TinselKoala's videos on youtube.
I watched one of TinselKoala's videos when it first came out. I seem
to recall that it came out almost immediately after Orbo's debut out
at the Waterfront.
I was not aware that there are now multiple you-
Actually, Esa, speaking strictly for myself, I have no problem
whatsoever in accepting the obvious - that adverse weather conditions
are indeed the primary reason that the latest demo had to be
rescheduled. FWIW, I live in Madison, Wisconsin, the midwest.
Significant portions of our country just ex
>From Terry:
> He is also known as Alsetalokin and you might remember a video of
> an alleged pure magnetic motor he did previously. And, yes, he is
> a skeptic.
Indeed, I remember Alsetalokin. I thought they were the same
individual. The narrator's voice was the same.
I also remember, with muc
>From Terry:
> All I have ever read is that he says the motor was definitely not OU.
> But, AFAIK, he never admitted to a hoax. And no one ever replicated
> although many tried.
Sheesh! As if that doesn’t muddy Alsetalokin’s position anymore than
where the matter currently stands.
Assuming the
Jed sez:
...
> With people like Roger, if you wait for things to be written and
> published according to schedule, you wait in vain. So I bend the
> rules at LENR-CANR to accommodate him. They aren't really rules,
> anyway. As Elizabeth said in "Pirates of the Caribbean":
>
> "Hang the code, and
http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/01/12/invent/index.html
You mean my defragmentizer dander dispatcher collecting dust in my
garage is worth millions?
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>From Stephen:
...
> Sure, you can ruin magnets in a motor, but that's not at
> all the same as *making* *use* of the magnetic field of the
> magnets as it degrades -- i.e., loss of magnetization is always
> just an artifact, never something vital to the motor's
> operation.
I'm a little confuse
From: Esa
> http://freeorbo.wordpress.com/2010/01/12/cop_live/
Excerpt:
> 11:44 Question: Why aren’t product developers jumping up
> and down?
> Answer [Sean?]: They are. Ever since Dec. 15th people are
> knocking their doors down. Licenses open on February 1st,
> we’ll see how many developers a
>From Terry:
>> Steorn deserves to give its audience a more thorough explanation
>> [in regards to why Steorn used a battery instead of a capacitor.]
>> I hope it is forth coming.
>
> I seriously doubt it since the statement is false. IIRC, he said that
> the capacitor was too slow in current deli
>From Abd:
>> Tl;dw is a great way to go. I give you a WTG for this one,
>> possibly followed by a few other acronyms, which I dislike,
>> such as "LOL" and "OMG" Even I had the time to watch
>> the live presentation, and I can't finish most documentaries
>> or even a song.
> The writer here
>From Terry:
> The Orbo is a motor as I am sure we will all agree.
> In order for the motor to be OU, it must be outputting
> more mechanical energy than electrical energy it consumes.
>
> Somehow Steorn must measure the torque or have the motor
> perform work, eg lift a weight, pump water, etc.
>From Terry:
> All the technical people are flabbergasted by the latest video. We
> are now convinced that it's all a joke. The Irish do love a punch
> line and that is just the phrase Sean has used.
>
> Unfortunately, many people we call "the believers", are now suffering
> from the Dunning-Kru
>From Mr. Lawrence:
...
> Oh, and I don't believe there will ever be a "revelation".
> The punch line will forever be delayed, and the results
> will remain ambiguous. Sean will continue to go along
> pretending he's shown things that he hasn't in an effort
> to keep the True Believers bringing i
>From Michel:
>> My point was that Mr. & Mrs. Jane & Joe Public are not the
>> "entities" Steorn is going after. Steorn is mostly going
>> after companies, enterprises, corporate entities (big
>> or small) that might be interested.
> I think on the contrary that the entirety of their licensing
>
>From Michel:
...
>> Yes, indeed, I agree that anyone, including myself can purchase
>> an ORBO license - a flat fee. I have no idea what an ORBO
>> license would cost me, but it's probably more than I would care
>> to spend. But why would I want to? What could I do with an ORBO
>> license? Tinke
Peatbog sez:
> The cost is 419 euros per year. Here are the terms:
> http://www.steorn.com/orbo/licensing/
Thanks for the clarification. The "initiation fee" is certainly way
too steep for my tastes! Interesting that it's an annual fee. One
assumes that the renewable annual fee is in order to rec
Abd sez:
...
> Get this: lying, as such, is not illegal. Most
> subscribers to this list are really space aliens, and
> I'm not yet revealing my secret knowledge, because I
> must protect my sources. However, I need money, so if
> you want the evidence apply for a disclosure license,
> which I wi
> Just take along cans of Fancy Feast. Hey it worked in District 9.
> And the Pandorians really are cats.
An excellent film that unfortunately will be stampeded by Avatar.
I can see it now. Coming to your local science fiction convention.
Bumper stickers:
"Cat Food Sold Here!"
Regards
Steven
Terry sez:
> I see from your Google avatar, you are a Pandorian.
As are you. ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Additional noise:
http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,100567,10014947o-2000331777b,00.htm
Exerpt:
"In the past, Sean has said that the Orbo will manage this to the tune
of 3:1 - in other words, churning out three watts for every watt of
input. The Saturday demo, our sources confide, will be
>From Mr. Lawrence
> Either it has been putting out 3:1 or it hasn't.
>
> If it has, why can't they demo 3:1, or rather 2:1
> mechanical:electrical? (Knock off 100% for the
> amount of input power converted to heat.) Have
> they forgotten how they used to do it? ;-)
Someone can correct me if I
I gotta hand it to those Steorn folks... Their latest advert is both
blunt and dramatic.
Steorn's web site sez:
"Final Demo:
PROVING OVERUNITY
Saturday 16.00 GMT
at Steorn.com"
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Barring unforeseen "technical difficulties", it is difficult for me to
perceive how Steorn could possibly wiggle t
>From Alexander:
> Is anyone here familiar with any organizations dedicated
> to helping push along space travel?
Used to be the L-5 Society.
Seems L-5 merged with the National Space Institute and the duo renamed
themselves the National Space Society
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/N/
It’s been my experience that whenever a subject being researched is
initially perceived in black & white terms, there seems to be a
tendency to filter the sources. In such cases it doesn’t seem to
matter all that much what sources one uses as “references.”
As the old saying goes: Get a second opin
I recommend Wikipedia be renamed to OAHpedia.
That's pronounced as: "Oh Pedia" *
* The "OAH" stands for "occasionally accurate hearsay".
Do I hear a second?
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Stephen sez:
>> I recommend Wikipedia be renamed to OAHpedia.
>>
>> That's pronounced as: "Oh Pedia" *
>>
>> * The "OAH" stands for "occasionally accurate hearsay".
>>
>> Do I hear a second?
>
> If you care enough to check sources, an awful lot of the facts in
> Wikipedia are referenced to externa
>From Terry:
...
> Turn the ignition off and shift to neutral if you encounter the
> problem. If you have a push button starter, hold the button down for
> over 3 seconds for a forced shutdown.
Sounds like the same kind of instructions you might give someone who
needs to perform an emergency po
>From Mr. Lawrence:
...
> This doesn't make me want to run out and buy a Toyota, whether
> or not they eventually declare the problem 'fixed'.
X-actly what Toyota fears the most, I suspect. ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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