Re: [MBZ] Grrrrrrr ....
Craig McCluskey wrote: I brought the computer with the smoked power supply in, removed the power supply (a custom type for the VIA Sereniti mini-ITX case), patched a full-sized ATX supply in, connecting all the cables, and pressed the go button. Nothing. Ended up connecting the ATX supply to its original bad motherboard in the computer that my neighbor gave me (the bad motherboard is why he gave it to me). There it worked. Hmmm ... Disconnected it and jumpered pins 14 and 15 on the 20-pin ATX connector and it worked, too. I put together a couple load resistors and a switch so I can test supplies without motherboards attached. Not foolproof, but low risk to complex motherboards. So, I figured, something in the mini-ITX computer is keeping the power supply from starting. I jumpered pins 14 and 15 with a paper clip and tried the two disks and DVD-ROM drive one at a time. One of the disks kept the supply from starting. Scratch one disk. So I connected up the mini-ITX motherboard and booted the computer. Motherboard is still alive. Good. Put in a Windows install CD. Tsk, tsk. Tried a Linux install CD and that booted just fine. (Boy I hate Windows.) But I did want to use Windows on this computer (which will NOT connect to the network!). Now your doing better. Why not use a virtual machine for those situations where MS Win is required? Disconnected the IDE cable to the dead disk and tried again. No change. Disconnected the IDE cable to the second disk and connected a disk from the neighbor's dead computer. It boots the Windows install disk just fine. Hmmm ... Scratch two disks. But the dying power supply killed two disks. I do have the ones from the neighbor's dead computer, but I'm still not happy about the performance of the VIA Sereniti's power supply. Wow. I've never seen a power supply kill harddrives. Quite conceivable, voltage goes up and poof! Use two supplies? Years ago I had a HP desktop with some weird form factor power supply. I wanted more harddrives on it than the supply could support, so I tagged an ATX onto the case and supplied the drives from the 'external' supply and the rest of the machine from the internal. Had to be careful to power up and down in the correct order. Otherwise worked well for over a year. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?
Rich - you're quite lucky to live so you can enjoy those folks. My wife, fluent in Italian, Spanish, and dangerous with French, can't speak a word of Southern beyond ya'll. I often have to interpret for her with locals who speak Southern, but I have not yet spoken to anyone who replied in Gullah. We have seen a Gullah translation of the bible, which is available locally. Difficult but possible to read, I'm sure that I wouldn't understand that language spoken very well. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? Yes they are very much around, there are some folks who live in a shack down a little dirt road across the road from me who speak only Gullah, no English. Most of the Gullah folk speak passable English, especially the younger kids, and can flip back and forth (the kids at the grocery stores are interesting to observe, as you did). The older ones are sometimes quite hard to understand if you can at all. Many of the folks on Kiawah would rather not to hear, see, or have any contact with these folks who have lived here by choice or circumstance for hundreds of years. It is sad, they are very nice people with lots of history and culture. This afternoon an older white man introduced himself as gullah, and spoke with a very thick accent. Some white folks who grew up in the community, especially the older ones, also can flip back and forth, and have very distinct accents. Another neighbor across the road, who has a truck farm http://www.rosebankfarms.com/ , is in his 70s and was born and grew up right here, can flip back and forth, goes to the black church next door to me and has forever I guess. He is quite a character. --R Gary Hurst wrote: years ago, i stopped at the piggly wiggly on kiawah island and engaged the backroom workers in dialogue. some barely spoke english, so i assured them in my best fake bob marley accent that I was conversant in the gullah so they could speak their native tongue to me. i hadn't a clue what those guys were saying, but i sure loved the way they talked. those guys still around or are they just so many more dispersed natives? On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I am fortunate to live a short bike ride over to Kiawah Island, which is like a zoo for older rich white people. Last fall sometime they had a car display at one of the parks on a gorgeous Saturday morning, so I pedaled over to look at the cars. There were some nice rides there, and some people sitting around, walking around, whatever. I attempted to engage some of them in idle conversation about the cars, etc. and no one seemed to be the least bit happy to be there or interested in sharing an interest in nice cars. That really bothered me. I think it was more of a who has a bigger kind of thing rather than enjoying nice cars on a beautiful day. I would wager I am happier driving my 26 and 31yo stinky Benzes and 34yo ratty Cad than any of them are in their $n00,000 spotless cars. I just don't get it, they seem to have very pampered but not very happy lives. --R E M wrote: I agree, 100% Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 16:29, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz, Rollers, Ferrari. I once asked or tried to strike up a conversation about Ferraris with one of the guys. I was told, by someone else, he doesn't like to talk about his other cars. Well, someone might want to tell him, and others, that owning several cars, even nice ones, are probably some of the worst kept secrets within a car club. lol. ( Wonder if he was reluctant to talk about his Mercedes to his Ferrari friends?) lol I find a lot of the attitude is not so much with the owners of certain cars, but more with people who have purchased certain cars, but can't really afford to treat them for what they are, cars. From my experience, the people who really love and buy these cars for what they are, are more than happy to show them off to whoever has an interest in them. It's like anything in life, you're going to get a few goofballs in any group of people. Whatever you drive, there will always be people who have something cooler, and more of them, so a bit of modesty never hurts. You know, those old fashioned social graces, that don't always come standard with an old used 600. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 February
[MBZ] idle speed
This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too low. The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning. With just a slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal. I did replace my motor mounts last fall, could this have altered the idle speed at all, i.e. if the motor is now sitting a little higher on the new mounts could the accelerator linkage need some adjustment? Once the engine has warmed up, the shaking at idle is much reduced. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: My New Toyota Lawnmower]
Thanks for deciphering Kaleb's email Craig - couldn't figure that out on first glance. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:34 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: My New Toyota Lawnmower] On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:11:34 -0600 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: Can you make it something that I can see? I am supposed to trust a .bin file? How about a .jpe file like the rest of your banned attachments? Thanks. mao, It's a video as Kaleb's posting says, A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ToyotaLawnMower.wmv Type: video/x-ms-wmv Size: 3703211 bytes So, download it, change the suffix to .wmv and open it with your video player. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast!!!!
Charleston is officially in a state of panic this a.m., because the weather guessers say it might snow this afternoon/evening... Guess I'd better fill up the gas can for the generator so I don't end up like Andrew. I may also have to get some firewood, our heat pumps run almost continually below 35 degrees, and my generator can only power one of them. Rich - you ever pick up a generator? Have any spare firewood? I may finally have some time to work on the '95 E300! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
You could adjust all the linkages by the factory manual, but I suspect that you may need to adjust the idle speed on the injection pump. I think you need a 5mm box wrench to do the job. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:23 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] idle speed This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too low. The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning. With just a slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal. I did replace my motor mounts last fall, could this have altered the idle speed at all, i.e. if the motor is now sitting a little higher on the new mounts could the accelerator linkage need some adjustment? Once the engine has warmed up, the shaking at idle is much reduced. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
Harbor Freight's new sale catalog arrived this past week. One of the neat toys is an optical hand-held tachometer. I wonder how useful that would be for measuring / adjusting idle speed? Rich, did you figure out how to measure RPM via the diagnostic socket yet? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:23 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] idle speed This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too low. The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning. With just a slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal. I did replace my motor mounts last fall, could this have altered the idle speed at all, i.e. if the motor is now sitting a little higher on the new mounts could the accelerator linkage need some adjustment? Once the engine has warmed up, the shaking at idle is much reduced. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New detailing product - Sonax wheel cleaner
I read about Sonax wheel cleaner in the latest 'Star' magazine, so I decided to give it a try. I tried to find just a bottle of the cleaner locally, then on the internet, but finally decided to get a 'kit' with several other Sonax products, seemed a better value once shipping was calculated: http://www.shophsg.com/sonaxcck.html Result: It does seem to work much much better than just soap/water, but I had to use a tooth brush to get all the brake dust out of the fifteen holes on the rims of my '87 wagon. On some parts of the rim, it did clean really well with just one cycle of wet wheel / spray on cleaner / rinse off wheel. Note that I started with REALLY crusty rims, which probably haven't been washed in a couple months. I'll wait a few weeks and try again to see if it works better when used in a more routine manner. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast!!!!
You need to go to the grocery store and buy up every gallon of milk and loaf of bread and packages of toilet paper you can find Yeah, I have a generator I have never used, and stacks o' firewood. And a few bottles of tasty vino and plenty of other adult bevvies. The 1 blizzard we are expecting might tax the power system mightily but we will probably survive. --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Charleston is officially in a state of panic this a.m., because the weather guessers say it might snow this afternoon/evening... Guess I'd better fill up the gas can for the generator so I don't end up like Andrew. I may also have to get some firewood, our heat pumps run almost continually below 35 degrees, and my generator can only power one of them. Rich - you ever pick up a generator? Have any spare firewood? I may finally have some time to work on the '95 E300! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
No it has not been pleasant enough to be outside fooling with cars. Maybe when it warms up a bit. Though the mamabenz seems to still be balky even after the new glow stick, I gotta check that out again. I should probably just change them all out. --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Harbor Freight's new sale catalog arrived this past week. One of the neat toys is an optical hand-held tachometer. I wonder how useful that would be for measuring / adjusting idle speed? Rich, did you figure out how to measure RPM via the diagnostic socket yet? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:23 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] idle speed This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too low. The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning. With just a slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal. I did replace my motor mounts last fall, could this have altered the idle speed at all, i.e. if the motor is now sitting a little higher on the new mounts could the accelerator linkage need some adjustment? Once the engine has warmed up, the shaking at idle is much reduced. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: My New Toyota Lawnmower]
Kaleb may be on moderated status and can not post straight to the list. Steve On Feb 11, 2010 11:11pm, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: Can you make it something that I can see? I am supposed to trust a .bin file? How about a .jpe file like the rest of your banned attachments? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sometimes you just gotta wonder
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1597137098.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too low. The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning. With just a slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal. So turn it up a tetch. That's one handy thing of the 115 diesels, etc., that dash-mount idle speed knob. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
Which US cars besides the 115 and the NA 123 cars had that? I've unplugged the idle control device on my '87 and I'd love to back-fit an idle control knob. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle speed This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too low. The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning. With just a slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal. So turn it up a tetch. That's one handy thing of the 115 diesels, etc., that dash-mount idle speed knob. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D
Well the guy put it up on CL, now asking $3800. Still seems high to me. It's been sitting for months on a corner with a For Sale sign in the window. http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/1594810366.html The paint is not as nice as it looks in those photos, the clear coat on the hood is peeling. Allan On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:12 -0500, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Well I had said that I was not buying any cars this year but I'd seen this W124 sitting in a yard with a for sale sign for a while. I had some time this morning so I stopped to look at it. It's an '87 300D with (if the odo is correct) about 173K miles. Nobody was around so I noted the phone number. The car looked solid, no visible rust, but paint was flat on the hood. Interior looked decent, no rips or obvious abuse. If I were to look at this more closely, anything in particular I should be alert to? Asking %5,000 obo. Seems a little high... considering it's been for sale for a while now. What are these going for these days? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W108 in indianapolis
Not sure exactly what this is, the ad is lacking detail. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1594870660.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Car detailing
Rich mentioned it not being pleasant enough to be working on cars lately. That got me thinking about working on my car this weekend. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE 52 DEGREES! I am very excited about sun and warm temperatures. This winter seems to have last forever. I know its been the normal amount of time, but it just feels like we haven't had a warm day in SO long. Now, I'm sure some of you in the warmer climates are thinking that 52 doesn't sound all that great, but it has been bad here for a long time. So, here's my question. I just got this Cadillac and I always have to spend time detailing and cleaning whatever car I have just gotten. It drives me crazy not having a clean car. Has anyone used the clay for the paint. I think I did this once on a previous car, but it was a long time ago. The car has very nice paint, but since it was sitting for so long, I am thinking using the clay would be a good idea before waxing it. Plus, I get to spend some time outside soaking up the sun! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:00 -0800, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too low. The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning. With just a slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal. So turn it up a tetch. That's one handy thing of the 115 diesels, etc., that dash-mount idle speed knob. So how do I don that on an OM617, exactly? Where's the idle adjustment? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
Which US cars besides the 115 and the NA 123 cars had that? I think all their earlier diesels did, back to 1936 or whatever. Probably nothing since. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car detailing
I have used detailing clay, and it is great for removing any stuff that doesn't come off with soap and water. Don't drop your clay on the ground - it immediately picks up rocks etc. which obviously will scratch your car, so you through it away at that point. Labor intensive to 'clay' an entire car, so I'd recommend that you only do it where you can either see or feel stuff that won't wash off. I bought a $15 clay kit at Pep Boys that had special clay lubricant in a spray bottle, but I suspect that car soap and water, mixed a little on the soapy side, will work just fine. I have found that clay works GREAT on my white car which really shows dirt. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:50 AM To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] Car detailing Rich mentioned it not being pleasant enough to be working on cars lately. That got me thinking about working on my car this weekend. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE 52 DEGREES! I am very excited about sun and warm temperatures. This winter seems to have last forever. I know its been the normal amount of time, but it just feels like we haven't had a warm day in SO long. Now, I'm sure some of you in the warmer climates are thinking that 52 doesn't sound all that great, but it has been bad here for a long time. So, here's my question. I just got this Cadillac and I always have to spend time detailing and cleaning whatever car I have just gotten. It drives me crazy not having a clean car. Has anyone used the clay for the paint. I think I did this once on a previous car, but it was a long time ago. The car has very nice paint, but since it was sitting for so long, I am thinking using the clay would be a good idea before waxing it. Plus, I get to spend some time outside soaking up the sun! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
So how do I don that on an OM617, exactly? Where's the idle adjustment? I believe it's a screw stop on the throttle lever on the IP. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 in indianapolis
Interior wood might be in nice shape, and I love the look of the car, but is that rust on the right front bumper? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W108 in indianapolis Not sure exactly what this is, the ad is lacking detail. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1594870660.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
Everything postwar for sure up to 123 OM616 240D and the NA 300D. The 123 turbos and newer have the electronic gizmos. Which US cars besides the 115 and the NA 123 cars had that? I think all their earlier diesels did, back to 1936 or whatever. Probably nothing since. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
Depends on which injection pump you have. Procedure 07.1-100 shows screw stop for MW pump and 5mm set screw with locking nut (at back of pump, near top) for M/RSF pump (which I think is what you have). Same procedure also says to check and adjust all the linkages first. I've already deleted the original post, so send me you email address again and I'll send you a copy of the procedure. Even my '87 has this idle speed adjuster. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle speed So how do I don that on an OM617, exactly? Where's the idle adjustment? I believe it's a screw stop on the throttle lever on the IP. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 Diesel for sale
Just in case Kaleb doesn't have one, I have been persuaded to sell one of my 83 300D's. I just bought an 83 300TD so one of the D's has to go. It's in Florida so I don't know if you are interested. Let me know and I can send details and pics. Manfred Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:16:45 -0600 From: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 Diesel for sale I've been talked out of it. what do u got for me kaleb? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:13 -0500, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Depends on which injection pump you have. Procedure 07.1-100 shows screw stop for MW pump and 5mm set screw with locking nut (at back of pump, near top) for M/RSF pump (which I think is what you have). Same procedure also says to check and adjust all the linkages first. I've already deleted the original post, so send me you email address again and I'll send you a copy of the procedure. Even my '87 has this idle speed adjuster. That would be great, if you have the linkage adjustment procedure I'd love a copy of that as well. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 in indianapolis
In 71, it would be a 280S or 280SE. I think in 71 the 280SE 3.5 was also available in the US. If it is injected, it is probably collectible. If it has the dual Zeniths, it probably won't run right. Won't win any stoplight drags, but is a nice car when in good shape. Probably 16-17 mpg tops. Not sure exactly what this is, the ad is lacking detail. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1594870660.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast!!!!
Maybe you'll get something like our storm Wednesday, all state workers sent home, plows out, people panic, light dusting of snow... -Curt Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:04:19 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast Message-ID: 4b755fe3.5000...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You need to go to the grocery store and buy up every gallon of milk and loaf of bread and packages of toilet paper you can find Yeah, I have a generator I have never used, and stacks o' firewood. And a few bottles of tasty vino and plenty of other adult bevvies. The 1 blizzard we are expecting might tax the power system mightily but we will probably survive. --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Charleston is officially in a state of panic this a.m., because the weather guessers say it might snow this afternoon/evening... Guess I'd better fill up the gas can for the generator so I don't end up like Andrew. I may also have to get some firewood, our heat pumps run almost continually below 35 degrees, and my generator can only power one of them. Rich - you ever pick up a generator? Have any spare firewood? I may finally have some time to work on the '95 E300! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast!!!!
The real winter WX problem (at least around northern NC) is the wet stuff that freezes to trees, phone lines, etc. and the resulting weight can bring them down. The dry powdery stuff of two weeks back was deep but not a problem -- except for those who had to (or chose to) get on the road. Our road got plowed after three days and I think the plow did more damage than all those cars and trucks driving with one wheel off the road. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 09:04 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast You need to go to the grocery store and buy up every gallon of milk and loaf of bread and packages of toilet paper you can find Yeah, I have a generator I have never used, and stacks o' firewood. And a few bottles of tasty vino and plenty of other adult bevvies. The 1 blizzard we are expecting might tax the power system mightily but we will probably survive. --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Charleston is officially in a state of panic this a.m., because the weather guessers say it might snow this afternoon/evening... Guess I'd better fill up the gas can for the generator so I don't end up like Andrew. I may also have to get some firewood, our heat pumps run almost continually below 35 degrees, and my generator can only power one of them. Rich - you ever pick up a generator? Have any spare firewood? I may finally have some time to work on the '95 E300! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast!!!!
Do you have snow shoes and cross country skis? (if you are not into snowmobiles) The last time that I recall having so much snow that we could not move about for a few days was November 8, 1986 (I think). We had skis and I went out just to look around the neighborhood. I had snow shoes in the garage at the lake so the next summer I bought them home. They have now hung in my garage for almost 23 years and I have yet to use them. I wonder if they would fall apart if I did. The bindings are no doubt so stiff that they would not be much good. Not sure about the webbing which is leather that has been varnished. They may be junk so I should check and throw them out if they could not be used. I am not hanging them on the wall for decoration. Don't know if they still do, but back when they were new, they did not smell all that nice. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:56 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast Maybe you'll get something like our storm Wednesday, all state workers sent home, plows out, people panic, light dusting of snow... -Curt Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:04:19 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast Message-ID: 4b755fe3.5000...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You need to go to the grocery store and buy up every gallon of milk and loaf of bread and packages of toilet paper you can find Yeah, I have a generator I have never used, and stacks o' firewood. And a few bottles of tasty vino and plenty of other adult bevvies. The 1 blizzard we are expecting might tax the power system mightily but we will probably survive. --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Charleston is officially in a state of panic this a.m., because the weather guessers say it might snow this afternoon/evening... Guess I'd better fill up the gas can for the generator so I don't end up like Andrew. I may also have to get some firewood, our heat pumps run almost continually below 35 degrees, and my generator can only power one of them. Rich - you ever pick up a generator? Have any spare firewood? I may finally have some time to work on the '95 E300! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 in indianapolis
It's probably a 280, and an overpriced one at that. Dan --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: [MBZ] W108 in indianapolis To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 10:29 AM Not sure exactly what this is, the ad is lacking detail. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1594870660.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car detailing
Donald - check out my detailing page on my Web site at www.penoff.com It's mainly on the W123 chassis, but there are some other hints that are pretty general. As for the clay, by all means, do it. You'll be amazed at how much cruft you get out of the finish. It's not something you have to do often, maybe once a year, but it does make a big difference. One note about the various kits you'll see for automotive clay: Buy the cheapest one you can find, and don't buy additional wetting agent - make your own. Take a spray bottle full of clean water and put a couple of drops of dishwashing detergent in it, and it will do the same thing the bottle that came with the clay does. When you're done, put the clay in a freezer style ZipLoc and squeeze all the air out of it, and you'll be able to use the clay again. Dan, the Mercedes Martha Stewart --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Subject: [MBZ] Car detailing To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 10:49 AM Rich mentioned it not being pleasant enough to be working on cars lately. That got me thinking about working on my car this weekend. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE 52 DEGREES! I am very excited about sun and warm temperatures. This winter seems to have last forever. I know its been the normal amount of time, but it just feels like we haven't had a warm day in SO long. Now, I'm sure some of you in the warmer climates are thinking that 52 doesn't sound all that great, but it has been bad here for a long time. So, here's my question. I just got this Cadillac and I always have to spend time detailing and cleaning whatever car I have just gotten. It drives me crazy not having a clean car. Has anyone used the clay for the paint. I think I did this once on a previous car, but it was a long time ago. The car has very nice paint, but since it was sitting for so long, I am thinking using the clay would be a good idea before waxing it. Plus, I get to spend some time outside soaking up the sun! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast!!!!
I've never been snowed in so badly we couldn't get out. There have been cases where normal people shouldn't be out but the idiots will doubtless go out to run the road. When we had the ice storm in '08 my in-laws went riding around to get more information and complained that all the utility crews were in the way. When I suggested maybe my in-laws were the ones in the way they were flabbergasted. I also asked what they thought they needed for information, there had been an ice storm, the power was out and it would be back on when its on, what else do you need to know? BTW snowshoes don't go bad the leather lacing is raw hide and as long as the mice haven't eaten it it'll be fine with a new coat of varnish or polyurethane. They sell replacement bindings. If you don't want yours send 'em here. I haven't had any since mine were stolen 5 or 6 years ago. Its a low thing to steal a guy's snowshoes... I should check the area pawn shops, they've got my name on them... -Curt Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:08:20 -0600 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpmemjoaaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Do you have snow shoes and cross country skis? (if you are not into snowmobiles) The last time that I recall having so much snow that we could not move about for a few days was November 8, 1986 (I think). We had skis and I went out just to look around the neighborhood. I had snow shoes in the garage at the lake so the next summer I bought them home. They have now hung in my garage for almost 23 years and I have yet to use them. I wonder if they would fall apart if I did. The bindings are no doubt so stiff that they would not be much good. Not sure about the webbing which is leather that has been varnished. They may be junk so I should check and throw them out if they could not be used. I am not hanging them on the wall for decoration. Don't know if they still do, but back when they were new, they did not smell all that nice. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:56 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast Maybe you'll get something like our storm Wednesday, all state workers sent home, plows out, people panic, light dusting of snow... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast!!!!
The problem that we have with the powdery stuff is that here on the prairies, it is too open and the wind blows it around to much. No visiblity and the road gets polished so it is slippery. We keep getting little bits of snow so my sidewalk is a mess etc. If you don't get it cleared off before people walk on it, then you basically cannot get it cleared off. We have an inch or so of ice and snow built up on the concrete that will be there for a while. The other problem I get is that my garage faces east west and the sun melts the snow off of the south side. It then fills my eavestrough with ice and makes a big icy mess a the downspout end. The water splashes onto the stucco and freezes and causes the stucco to fall apart. I need to come up with some better solution to the problem but I am not sure what it is. I have considered building a dormer on that side of the garage roof in an attempt to change the melt characteristics. It also ruins the shingles as there is a constant freeze and thaw cycle on the south side of the roof. If you don't think solar energy works, come and look at my garage. It can be minus 20 but at high noon with the sun shining, the snow will be melting off of the south side of my garage. Of couse, as soon as the water runs down to where it is shadowed by the neighbor's garage, it re-freezes. I get a similar scenario on my house as the snow melts on the roof (later once it warms up more) and runs into the trough and down the downpipe but then freezes as it is in the shadow between my house and the one to the south of us. Then the downpipe freezes and bursts and the water runs down the stucco and damages it. I guess I need the industrial style downpipes that are open to the outside but they would look odd on the house. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:06 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast The real winter WX problem (at least around northern NC) is the wet stuff that freezes to trees, phone lines, etc. and the resulting weight can bring them down. The dry powdery stuff of two weeks back was deep but not a problem -- except for those who had to (or chose to) get on the road. Our road got plowed after three days and I think the plow did more damage than all those cars and trucks driving with one wheel off the road. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 09:04 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast You need to go to the grocery store and buy up every gallon of milk and loaf of bread and packages of toilet paper you can find Yeah, I have a generator I have never used, and stacks o' firewood. And a few bottles of tasty vino and plenty of other adult bevvies. The 1 blizzard we are expecting might tax the power system mightily but we will probably survive. --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Charleston is officially in a state of panic this a.m., because the weather guessers say it might snow this afternoon/evening... Guess I'd better fill up the gas can for the generator so I don't end up like Andrew. I may also have to get some firewood, our heat pumps run almost continually below 35 degrees, and my generator can only power one of them. Rich - you ever pick up a generator? Have any spare firewood? I may finally have some time to work on the '95 E300! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] R.I.P. LORAN
Who was the Coastie that was bemoaning the decommissioning of the LORAN system? I ask because I just talked to the guys at the LORAN site in Dana, Indiana. We service the generators that back up the site. They turn off the transmitter on Monday. The site is being mothballed and turned over to the local government after the USCG gets their toys out of it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast!!!!
We had freezing fog this morning. Also known as hoare frost, I believe. Pretty cool looking. Dan --- On Fri, 2/12/10, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 12:22 PM The problem that we have with the powdery stuff is that here on the prairies, it is too open and the wind blows it around to much. No visiblity and the road gets polished so it is slippery. We keep getting little bits of snow so my sidewalk is a mess etc. If you don't get it cleared off before people walk on it, then you basically cannot get it cleared off. We have an inch or so of ice and snow built up on the concrete that will be there for a while. The other problem I get is that my garage faces east west and the sun melts the snow off of the south side. It then fills my eavestrough with ice and makes a big icy mess a the downspout end. The water splashes onto the stucco and freezes and causes the stucco to fall apart. I need to come up with some better solution to the problem but I am not sure what it is. I have considered building a dormer on that side of the garage roof in an attempt to change the melt characteristics. It also ruins the shingles as there is a constant freeze and thaw cycle on the south side of the roof. If you don't think solar energy works, come and look at my garage. It can be minus 20 but at high noon with the sun shining, the snow will be melting off of the south side of my garage. Of couse, as soon as the water runs down to where it is shadowed by the neighbor's garage, it re-freezes. I get a similar scenario on my house as the snow melts on the roof (later once it warms up more) and runs into the trough and down the downpipe but then freezes as it is in the shadow between my house and the one to the south of us. Then the downpipe freezes and bursts and the water runs down the stucco and damages it. I guess I need the industrial style downpipes that are open to the outside but they would look odd on the house. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast!!!!
Weathergasms starting now, schools have closed for the afternoon, it started sprinkling a bit, supposed to turn to freezing something at sunset. The Lowcountry Blizzard of 2010!!! --R Curt Raymond wrote: Maybe you'll get something like our storm Wednesday, all state workers sent home, plows out, people panic, light dusting of snow... -Curt Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:04:19 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast Message-ID: 4b755fe3.5000...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You need to go to the grocery store and buy up every gallon of milk and loaf of bread and packages of toilet paper you can find Yeah, I have a generator I have never used, and stacks o' firewood. And a few bottles of tasty vino and plenty of other adult bevvies. The 1 blizzard we are expecting might tax the power system mightily but we will probably survive. --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Charleston is officially in a state of panic this a.m., because the weather guessers say it might snow this afternoon/evening... Guess I'd better fill up the gas can for the generator so I don't end up like Andrew. I may also have to get some firewood, our heat pumps run almost continually below 35 degrees, and my generator can only power one of them. Rich - you ever pick up a generator? Have any spare firewood? I may finally have some time to work on the '95 E300! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast!!!!
I can only recall 2 times in my lifetime when we were totally buried in snow and could not move about for a bit. The one I related earlier in I think 1986 and another in March of 1966. We had another in April 1997 but we were in Grand Forks ND that weekend and could not get home. We were supposed to go home on Sunday but did not get there until Tuesday if I recall correctly. In ND it was mostly an ice storm that left the roads covered with close to an inch of ice. Further north in Canada it was snow. We listened to the radio and heard that Winnipeg was buried and the buses had stopped running etc. We thought that when we got home, we would have to leave the Suburban out at the major street and walk in to the house. We were happy to find out that they had already ploughed out our front street and back lane. My mother's car was in our garage and she wanted to go home so we had to dig our way into and out of the garage. The snow was half way up the pedestrian door and hard enough to stand on. I had to crouch down and jump into the garage to get shovels. We could have built igloos of it as we were cutting out chunks of snow when we tried to shovel it away. The good thing about snow that time of year is that it does not last, even this far north. It was all gone in a few days. Of course that has issues too. The weekend that we were stuck in Grand Forks that I referred to above, was about a week before they were almost totally flooded. The main north south highway was closed for a month or more shortly after we got home. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:16 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast I've never been snowed in so badly we couldn't get out. There have been cases where normal people shouldn't be out but the idiots will doubtless go out to run the road. When we had the ice storm in '08 my in-laws went riding around to get more information and complained that all the utility crews were in the way. When I suggested maybe my in-laws were the ones in the way they were flabbergasted. I also asked what they thought they needed for information, there had been an ice storm, the power was out and it would be back on when its on, what else do you need to know? BTW snowshoes don't go bad the leather lacing is raw hide and as long as the mice haven't eaten it it'll be fine with a new coat of varnish or polyurethane. They sell replacement bindings. If you don't want yours send 'em here. I haven't had any since mine were stolen 5 or 6 years ago. Its a low thing to steal a guy's snowshoes... I should check the area pawn shops, they've got my name on them... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Which US cars besides the 115 and the NA 123 cars had that? I've unplugged the idle control device on my '87 and I'd love to back-fit an idle control knob. The '78 and '79 300SD had it, but I don't think the 1980 did, and I know the W126 didn't. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
Mitch, that's curious that the 300SD had it, with a turbo OM617. Must have been the only application, or did any of the 123 turbo cars have it? I had an '85 grey market 123.190 (NA) which had it. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle speed Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Which US cars besides the 115 and the NA 123 cars had that? I've unplugged the idle control device on my '87 and I'd love to back-fit an idle control knob. The '78 and '79 300SD had it, but I don't think the 1980 did, and I know the W126 didn't. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
I had a 79 300TD that had one. Dan --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle speed To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 1:11 PM Mitch, that's curious that the 300SD had it, with a turbo OM617. Must have been the only application, or did any of the 123 turbo cars have it? I had an '85 grey market 123.190 (NA) which had it. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle speed Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Which US cars besides the 115 and the NA 123 cars had that? I've unplugged the idle control device on my '87 and I'd love to back-fit an idle control knob. The '78 and '79 300SD had it, but I don't think the 1980 did, and I know the W126 didn't. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] XZN
This has been bothering me all morning. Does anyone know what XZN stands for? Probably something German that I'll never be able to pronounce, but the Google is coming up dry. Given the breadth of knowledge here, someone must know. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
My 79 TD has a knob on the dash for adjusting idle speed, not sure how much it adjusts now. --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Mitch, that's curious that the 300SD had it, with a turbo OM617. Must have been the only application, or did any of the 123 turbo cars have it? I had an '85 grey market 123.190 (NA) which had it. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle speed Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Which US cars besides the 115 and the NA 123 cars had that? I've unplugged the idle control device on my '87 and I'd love to back-fit an idle control knob. The '78 and '79 300SD had it, but I don't think the 1980 did, and I know the W126 didn't. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] XZN
Try searching on XZN socket. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_square -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Savage Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] XZN This has been bothering me all morning. Does anyone know what XZN stands for? Probably something German that I'll never be able to pronounce, but the Google is coming up dry. Given the breadth of knowledge here, someone must know. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] XZN
Avignon airport, France ? Ed 300E On 12 February 2010 13:23, Thomas Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote: This has been bothering me all morning. Does anyone know what XZN stands for? Probably something German that I'll never be able to pronounce, but the Google is coming up dry. Given the breadth of knowledge here, someone must know. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] XZN
Replied too fast, thought you just wanted more info ABOUT XZN. Here's a quote from the German Wikipedia: The exact dimensions are described in the ISO 1173 or DIN 3126. Maybe those standards organizations know... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] XZN Try searching on XZN socket. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_square -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Savage Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] XZN This has been bothering me all morning. Does anyone know what XZN stands for? Probably something German that I'll never be able to pronounce, but the Google is coming up dry. Given the breadth of knowledge here, someone must know. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: My New Toyota Lawnmower]
Steve wrote: Kaleb may be on moderated status and can not post straight to the list. Finally. We rule. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PANIC! BAD weather forecast!!!!
You could do worse than to end up like me. Or as they say, better than a poke in the eye with a burnt stick. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Charleston is officially in a state of panic this a.m., because the weather guessers say it might snow this afternoon/evening... Guess I'd better fill up the gas can for the generator so I don't end up like Andrew. I may also have to get some firewood, our heat pumps run almost continually below 35 degrees, and my generator can only power one of them. Rich - you ever pick up a generator? Have any spare firewood? I may finally have some time to work on the '95 E300! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car detailing
Max wrote: I have used detailing clay, and it is great for removing any stuff that doesn't come off with soap and water. Don't drop your clay on the ground - it immediately picks up rocks etc. which obviously will scratch your car, so you through it away at that point. Labor intensive to 'clay' an entire car, so I'd recommend that you only do it where you can either see or feel stuff that won't wash off. I bought a $15 clay kit at Pep Boys that had special clay lubricant in a spray bottle, but I suspect that car soap and water, mixed a little on the soapy side, will work just fine. I have found that clay works GREAT on my white car which really shows dirt. Thanks, Max! Glad to hear someone who has used it. My car is that pearl white, so its good to know it works on light colors, too! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Diesel Prices]
On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 100208 2.769 2.819 3.014 2.920 2.757 2.724 2.729 2.782 2.860 2.920 100201 2.781 2.832 3.017 2.926 2.775 2.731 2.744 2.797 2.876 2.950 100125 2.833 2.883 3.055 2.986 2.823 2.790 2.800 2.817 2.915 2.987 100118 2.870 2.923 3.065 3.023 2.867 2.834 2.831 2.827 2.947 3.008 100111 2.879 2.922 3.068 3.026 2.864 2.844 2.846 2.814 2.971 3.032 100104 2.797 2.827 2.935 2.932 2.772 2.771 2.750 2.746 2.908 2.959 091228 2.732 2.749 2.862 2.857 2.693 2.707 2.689 2.728 2.841 2.902 091221 2.726 2.740 2.853 2.841 2.687 2.708 2.680 2.740 2.825 2.891 091214 2.748 2.769 2.870 2.868 2.717 2.720 2.699 2.783 2.855 2.915 091207 2.772 2.792 2.874 2.896 2.740 2.742 2.726 2.806 2.884 2.942 091130 2.775 2.792 2.869 2.900 2.738 2.748 2.724 2.817 2.888 2.948 091123 2.787 2.803 2.868 2.907 2.753 2.762 2.738 2.825 2.896 2.954 091116 2.790 2.808 2.868 2.912 2.759 2.769 2.733 2.820 2.899 2.964 091109 2.801 2.821 2.866 2.926 2.772 2.779 2.746 2.823 2.909 2.972 091102 2.808 2.834 2.878 2.940 2.785 2.786 2.749 2.810 2.910 2.974 091026 2.801 2.819 2.843 2.923 2.773 2.790 2.740 2.776 2.904 2.968 091019 2.705 2.716 2.752 2.831 2.664 2.693 2.644 2.704 2.822 2.874 091012 2.600 2.610 2.690 2.723 2.554 2.581 2.530 2.650 2.732 2.791 091005 2.582 2.586 2.686 2.698 2.529 2.561 2.518 2.645 2.722 2.792 090928 2.601 2.607 2.703 2.714 2.552 2.585 2.525 2.658 2.742 2.807 090921 2.622 2.631 2.708 2.738 2.578 2.598 2.542 2.678 2.783 2.827 090914 2.634 2.650 2.720 2.755 2.599 2.607 2.555 2.683 2.795 2.847 090907 2.647 2.658 2.729 2.768 2.604 2.628 2.575 2.682 2.786 2.866 090831 2.674 2.691 2.742 2.779 2.649 2.649 2.618 2.692 2.802 2.893 090824 2.668 2.692 2.741 2.781 2.649 2.637 2.622 2.671 2.785 2.880 090817 2.652 2.687 2.739 2.771 2.646 2.623 2.607 2.633 2.744 2.872 090810 2.625 2.665 2.701 2.755 2.624 2.601 2.581 2.573 2.700 2.842 090803 2.550 2.579 2.637 2.671 2.535 2.520 2.513 2.537 2.643 2.763 090727 2.528 2.550 2.613 2.643 2.505 2.500 2.493 2.540 2.617 2.720 090720 2.496 2.514 2.600 2.630 2.456 2.470 2.443 2.559 2.595 2.703 090713 2.542 2.559 2.623 2.663 2.508 2.512 2.494 2.619 2.641 2.727 090706 2.594 2.609 2.656 2.714 2.560 2.565 2.547 2.648 2.706 2.787 090629 2.608 2.629 2.666 2.726 2.584 2.578 2.569 2.631 2.712 2.785 090622 2.616 2.634 2.670 2.730 2.590 2.587 2.583 2.614 2.720 2.789 090615 2.572 2.601 2.651 2.696 2.556 2.546 2.543 2.520 2.655 2.734 090608 2.498 2.516 2.566 2.619 2.468 2.474 2.474 2.442 2.603 2.676 090601 2.352 2.369 2.438 2.457 2.326 2.322 2.323 2.343 2.460 2.502 090525 2.274 2.305 2.409 2.410 2.251 2.229 2.242 2.302 2.384 2.407 090518 2.231 2.276 2.401 2.396 2.213 2.170 2.210 2.274 2.340 2.354 090511 2.216 2.255 2.395 2.386 2.186 2.156 2.198 2.270 2.329 2.337 090504 2.185 2.226 2.382 2.365 2.152 2.124 2.153 2.262 2.306 2.316 090427 2.201 2.241 2.395 2.374 2.171 2.142 2.171 2.270 2.315 2.320 090420 2.221 2.264 2.403 2.392 2.197 2.166 2.186 2.274 2.327 2.340 090413 2.229 2.273 2.420 2.402 2.204 2.175 2.202 2.250 2.336 2.350 090406 2.228 2.279 2.429 2.419 2.205 2.178 2.210 2.213 2.311 2.335 090330 2.221 2.281 2.424 2.399 2.218 2.176 2.203 2.146 2.282 2.297 090323 2.090 2.166 2.403 2.315 2.081 2.038 2.060 2.036 2.150 2.129 090316 2.017 2.093 2.403 2.254 1.995 1.965 1.973 1.988 2.091 2.049 090309 2.045 2.122 2.434 2.287 2.022 1.988 2.006 2.017 2.120 2.075 090302 2.087 2.153 2.472 2.314 2.055 2.030 2.043 2.091 2.185 2.144 090223 2.130 2.199 2.514 2.368 2.098 2.071 2.074 2.158 2.238 2.219 090216 2.186 2.250 2.559 2.420 2.148 2.137 2.133 2.183 2.284 2.262 090209 2.219 2.296 2.576 2.450 2.205 2.173 2.156 2.211 2.292 2.269 * Ultra-Low
Re: [MBZ] Car detailing
Dan wrote: As for the clay, by all means, do it. You'll be amazed at how much cruft you get out of the finish. It's not something you have to do often, maybe once a year, but it does make a big difference. One note about the various kits you'll see for automotive clay: Buy the cheapest one you can find, and don't buy additional wetting agent - make your own. Take a spray bottle full of clean water and put a couple of drops of dishwashing detergent in it, and it will do the same thing the bottle that came with the clay does. When you're done, put the clay in a freezer style ZipLoc and squeeze all the air out of it, and you'll be able to use the clay again. Thanks Dan! Those are great hints! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Gasoline Prices]
RETAIL GASOLINE: (Self Service Prices per Gallon, Including Taxes) This report contains price estimates for gasoline sold in ozone non-attainment areas which require the sale of reformulated gasoline (RFG) as designated by the Environmental Protection Agency, and Conventional areas which includes both attainment areas and carbon monoxide non-attainment areas. Mogas web site url http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/fwd/wrgp.html --- 2010 --- Date 12/21 12/281/4 1/11 1/181/252/12/8 National Price - All Grades Average 2.645 2.662 2.718 2.804 2.793 2.760 2.717 2.707 Conventional Areas 2.599 2.616 2.677 2.768 2.755 2.719 2.672 2.664 RFG Areas 2.739 2.754 2.802 2.877 2.870 2.844 2.809 2.796 National Price - Regular Average 2.589 2.607 2.665 2.751 2.739 2.705 2.661 2.652 Conventional Areas 2.546 2.564 2.627 2.717 2.703 2.666 2.618 2.611 RFG Areas 2.679 2.696 2.745 2.822 2.813 2.787 2.750 2.738 National Price - Midgrade Average 2.717 2.731 2.784 2.869 2.861 2.832 2.787 2.778 Conventional Areas 2.658 2.673 2.730 2.823 2.813 2.780 2.731 2.723 RFG Areas 2.829 2.843 2.889 2.958 2.954 2.932 2.897 2.885 National Price - Premium Average 2.839 2.853 2.905 2.988 2.983 2.953 2.911 2.900 Conventional Areas 2.796 2.811 2.869 2.959 2.951 2.918 2.871 2.862 RFG Areas 2.918 2.930 2.972 3.042 3.041 3.018 2.984 2.973 ++ All GradesDate 12/21 12/281/4 1/11 1/181/252/12/8 ++ PADD 1 - East Coast Average 2.664 2.670 2.720 2.811 2.818 2.791 2.752 2.734 Conventional Areas 2.661 2.666 2.724 2.822 2.825 2.795 2.749 2.727 RFG Areas 2.669 2.677 2.713 2.794 2.807 2.784 2.758 2.745 PADD 1a - New England Average 2.682 2.691 2.737 2.818 2.828 2.806 2.788 2.771 Conventional Areas 2.705 2.718 2.775 2.850 2.855 2.836 2.800 2.782 RFG Areas 2.676 2.684 2.727 2.810 2.821 2.798 2.785 2.768 PADD 1b - Central Atlantic Average 2.706 2.712 2.754 2.841 2.843 2.817 2.784 2.773 Conventional Areas 2.754 2.757 2.812 2.913 2.897 2.863 2.828 2.814 RFG Areas 2.677 2.684 2.719 2.797 2.809 2.788 2.757 2.749 PADD 1c - Lower Atlantic Average 2.628 2.633 2.690 2.787 2.797 2.767 2.718 2.694 Conventional Areas 2.630 2.635 2.694 2.791 2.801 2.772 2.721 2.697 RFG Areas 2.611 2.616 2.647 2.738 2.757 2.722 2.687 2.667 PADD 2 - Midwest Average 2.560 2.593 2.671 2.761 2.716 2.659 2.598 2.610 Conventional Areas 2.547 2.580 2.659 2.750 2.705 2.649 2.588 2.601 RFG Areas 2.642 2.673 2.752 2.834 2.784 2.727 2.659 2.666 PADD 3 - Gulf Coast Average 2.502 2.523 2.582 2.673 2.674 2.646 2.598 2.573 Conventional Areas 2.509 2.530 2.589 2.680 2.683 2.657 2.610 2.584 RFG Areas 2.479 2.501 2.557 2.648 2.645 2.610 2.560 2.538 PADD 4 - Rocky Mountain Conventional Areas 2.553 2.547 2.556 2.623 2.664 2.671 2.666 2.671 PADD 5 - West Coast Average 2.898 2.911 2.952 3.017 3.004 2.991 2.962 2.946 Conventional Areas 2.820 2.819 2.842 2.917 2.917 2.907 2.887 2.871 RFG Areas 2.930 2.949 2.996 3.057 3.040 3.025 2.992 2.976 PADD 5b - West Coast less CA Average 2.782 2.781 2.797 2.875 2.875 2.870 2.848 2.828 Conventional Areas 2.820 2.819 2.842 2.917 2.917 2.907 2.887 2.871 RFG Areas 2.603 2.602 2.578 2.674 2.674 2.698 2.663 2.625 California RFG Areas 2.960 2.981 3.035 3.093 3.074 3.056 3.023 3.009 Colorado Conventional Areas 2.496 2.499 2.519 2.599 2.620 2.605 2.580 2.572 Florida Conventional Areas 2.689 2.690 2.746 2.829 2.856 2.816 2.777 2.744 Massachusetts RFG Areas 2.627 2.643 2.677 2.754 2.774 2.754 2.726 2.714 Minnesota Conventional Areas 2.529 2.589 2.670 2.761 2.751 2.704 2.644 2.640 New York State Average 2.874 2.883 2.907 2.965 2.976 2.969 2.954 2.940 Conventional Areas 2.851 2.861 2.890 2.962 2.962 2.957 2.941 2.922 RFG Areas 2.894 2.902 2.921 2.967 2.988 2.979 2.966 2.955 Ohio Conventional Areas 2.616 2.682 2.698 2.800 2.687 2.591 2.521 2.607 Texas Average 2.488 2.512 2.564 2.650 2.653 2.619 2.572 2.548 Conventional Areas 2.494 2.520 2.568 2.651 2.658 2.625 2.580 2.554 RFG Areas
Re: [MBZ] 1987 Diesel for sale
Thomas wrote: I would be all over it, but the 140 has been so inexpensive to own that I can't justify switching. Didn't you used to drive a W123? - 240D? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Mitch, that's curious that the 300SD had it, with a turbo OM617. Must have been the only application, or did any of the 123 turbo cars have it? I think MBUSA figured out around 1980 that their customers were too stupid to use it properly, and the S123 turbo didn't come out until 1981. Either that or it wasn't absolutely necessary on the 1980 big cam engines, so MBUSA dropped it to save money. I'd like a dash knob rheostat on the OM60x cars with ELR. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] XZN
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Maybe those standards organizations know... No one knows! Lots of dimensions and specifications and people selling VW CV tools, but the meaning of the letters remains an enigma. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
Probably just an effort to modernize like everything else. Manual chokes on cars were common until ?? Honda still had them in about the early 80's. People expect things to progress and for most people, not having a choke or an idle speed control is a sign of progress. They don't want to have to control anything. They want automation - even if they don't know how to use it. My mother is funny. She constantly turns the thermostat up and down rather than just leave it alone. In our house, we essentially never touch the thermostat this time of year. We don't have the the fancy programmable one either. We just leave it alone. The temperature stays pretty constant. We have noticed that the thermostat appears to be somewhat affected by the dining room light over the table. It has 7 60W bulbs in it and I think it produces enough heat to make the thermostat think the house is warm enough. If we leave the light on in the evening then it gets cool upstairs. Randy who went off on a tangent here -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle speed Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Mitch, that's curious that the 300SD had it, with a turbo OM617. Must have been the only application, or did any of the 123 turbo cars have it? I think MBUSA figured out around 1980 that their customers were too stupid to use it properly, and the S123 turbo didn't come out until 1981. Either that or it wasn't absolutely necessary on the 1980 big cam engines, so MBUSA dropped it to save money. I'd like a dash knob rheostat on the OM60x cars with ELR. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:48 -0600, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:
My mother is funny. She constantly turns the thermostat up and down
rather than just leave it alone. In our house, we essentially never
touch the thermostat this time of year. We don't have the the fancy
programmable one either. We just leave it alone. The temperature stays
pretty constant.
I bought a programmable thermostat last fall ('08). I set it up to
raise and lower the temperature setting according to our usual
work/school patterns. My gas usage increased. I went back to the
manual and we only change it if we're going to be away for more
than a day.
Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?
LOL -- there's High Class, Low Class and the dreaded No Class. ;-) I used to get a magazine quarterly from MB - they'd talk about past models and stuff - like The Star but free. Anyway one issue was about the 600s - they are truly awesome cars. They are larger in every dimension - even the hood star is large. The window lifts are *hydraulic* - must be spooky to watch them raise and lower silently. The engine used in the 600 was a fuel injected 6.3 like the one used in the more common 300SE/SEL of the 60s - a outstanding car in it's own right. I heard some salesmen would tape a $100 dollar bill to the dash and challenge the potential buyer to grab it between 0 and 60 mph. I understand the same $100 bill was never reached. I heard similar stories about 427 Cobra's BTW. Anyway - for such a large car the 600 was very fast. One of my former customers drove a 600SWB as his daily driver. He really liked it for tooling around town. Air suspension was a common problem BTW. You might see a 600 (or 300SE/SEL sitting low to the ground looking like some misguided soul wanted to lower it - when the problem was leaking air bags in the suspension that allowed the car to lie down like a tired puppy. Wouldn't mind having a 600/300 but wouldn't want to pay for maintaining one. LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz, Rollers, Ferrari. I once asked or tried to strike up a conversation about Ferraris with one of the guys. I was told, by someone else, he doesn't like to talk about his other cars. Well, someone might want to tell him, and others, that owning several cars, even nice ones, are probably some of the worst kept secrets within a car club. lol. ( Wonder if he was reluctant to talk about his Mercedes to his Ferrari friends?) lol I find a lot of the attitude is not so much with the owners of certain cars, but more with people who have purchased certain cars, but can't really afford to treat them for what they are, cars. From my experience, the people who really love and buy these cars for what they are, are more than happy to show them off to whoever has an interest in them. It's like anything in life, you're going to get a few goofballs in any group of people. Whatever you drive, there will always be people who have something cooler, and more of them, so a bit of modesty never hurts. You know, those old fashioned social graces, that don't always come standard with an old used 600. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 15:00, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: When I was working/living in NY state and wasting my money on The Star magazine, there was an article on the M100 (I hope I remembered the name right) club which meets once a year in southern NY state. There are two main players who operate things in this club and the other fellow lives somewhere in northeast PA as I remember. Since my brother and I had visited a few Meadowbrook Concours d'Elegance events, we thought it would be a neat idea to attend one of the M100 meets as pics of a bunch of these vehicles in the same place would be pretty nice. I wrote a note to one of the fellows but got a somewhat snobbish note in return indicating that their meets were for M100 members only. As much as some of you/us may lust after these vehicles, I doubt if we'd fit into their club as my opinion of most of you on this list would suggest that we just wouldn't fit in even if we could afford one of these beasts. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
[MBZ] 300E W124
I see a lot of W124 300E's needing transmission work - I *really* like the 300 W124 and nice D's are getting harder harder to find. Is the W124 prone to tranny problems? Is it usually the B2 valve? Any good websites to learn about the W124 300E? Thx LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
I have read that it takes more energy to raise the temperature than it does to
maintain it. We are looking at
adding electric heat to the cottage and mother gripes about the cost of
electricity. I have talked to her about the
issue and told her that she will have to leave them alone but I wonder if she
will be able to restrain herself.
Randy
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:52 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle speed
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:48 -0600, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:
My mother is funny. She constantly turns the thermostat up and down
rather than just leave it alone. In our house, we essentially never
touch the thermostat this time of year. We don't have the the fancy
programmable one either. We just leave it alone. The temperature stays
pretty constant.
I bought a programmable thermostat last fall ('08). I set it up to
raise and lower the temperature setting according to our usual
work/school patterns. My gas usage increased. I went back to the
manual and we only change it if we're going to be away for more
than a day.
Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 300E W124
Hi Larry, My trans has always had a very slow leak, and I didn't feel it worth pulling it all out unless there were other things to do, while in there. Other than that, 350,000+ kms, and it all original. The car has never been abused, by me or the previous owner, but all seems ok so far. No slip or anything. I use synthetic fluid, and it gets about 80% of its current use in the city, so it does run through the gears often, not just left in top as with highway driving. I don't know tons about the cars, other than the questions I've asked here, but if there's anything I have tinkered with on the car, I'm happy to share it with you. Cheap to buy, cheap to run with parts from Rusty, even a lot of the small parts I've purchased from the dealer, and enough room in the engine bay, you can stand in it while working on it. ;-) lol Ed 300E On 12 February 2010 16:21, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I see a lot of W124 300E's needing transmission work - I *really* like the 300 W124 and nice D's are getting harder harder to find. Is the W124 prone to tranny problems? Is it usually the B2 valve? Any good websites to learn about the W124 300E? Thx LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?
I knew a fellow too, who had a 600 for daily transport. A really amazing car. Hmmm, I wonder when the hydraulic fail, if all the windows fall open and the all seats start to slide around on their tracks?? lol. I looked at one for sale in town here years ago. They were asking $39,000. It looked amazing, very well cared for body and interior, but a few things needed a bit of attention. Oh oh, . lol The real party trick when showing it to me, was the self closing truck. And yeah, it closed with real authority, you didn't want to get your hand or arm in that sucker after pushing the close button! lol Funny in ways, you have to take all the engineering efforts made in context. They went to such trouble making the windows operate silently, as well as the seats slide back and forth, but if you were opening a window, I'm not sure you'd hear an electric motor over the enginenot as quiet as you might think. Like you Larry, I'd love a 600, but the cost to run one properly would be scary!! I'd even love a SE 6.3. Did they come in both long and short wheelbase models? The original Q car. Ed 300E On 12 February 2010 16:17, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: LOL -- there's High Class, Low Class and the dreaded No Class. ;-) I used to get a magazine quarterly from MB - they'd talk about past models and stuff - like The Star but free. Anyway one issue was about the 600s - they are truly awesome cars. They are larger in every dimension - even the hood star is large. The window lifts are *hydraulic* - must be spooky to watch them raise and lower silently. The engine used in the 600 was a fuel injected 6.3 like the one used in the more common 300SE/SEL of the 60s - a outstanding car in it's own right. I heard some salesmen would tape a $100 dollar bill to the dash and challenge the potential buyer to grab it between 0 and 60 mph. I understand the same $100 bill was never reached. I heard similar stories about 427 Cobra's BTW. Anyway - for such a large car the 600 was very fast. One of my former customers drove a 600SWB as his daily driver. He really liked it for tooling around town. Air suspension was a common problem BTW. You might see a 600 (or 300SE/SEL sitting low to the ground looking like some misguided soul wanted to lower it - when the problem was leaking air bags in the suspension that allowed the car to lie down like a tired puppy. Wouldn't mind having a 600/300 but wouldn't want to pay for maintaining one. LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz, Rollers, Ferrari. I once asked or tried to strike up a conversation about Ferraris with one of the guys. I was told, by someone else, he doesn't like to talk about his other cars. Well, someone might want to tell him, and others, that owning several cars, even nice ones, are probably some of the worst kept secrets within a car club. lol. ( Wonder if he was reluctant to talk about his Mercedes to his Ferrari friends?) lol I find a lot of the attitude is not so much with the owners of certain cars, but more with people who have purchased certain cars, but can't really afford to treat them for what they are, cars. From my experience, the people who really love and buy these cars for what they are, are more than happy to show them off to whoever has an interest in them. It's like anything in life, you're going to get a few goofballs in any group of people. Whatever you drive, there will always be people who have something cooler, and more of them, so a bit of modesty never hurts. You know, those old fashioned social graces, that don't always come standard with an old used 600. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 15:00, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: When I was working/living in NY state and wasting my money on The Star magazine, there was an article on the M100 (I hope I remembered the name right) club which meets once a year in southern NY state. There are two main players who operate things in this club and the other fellow lives somewhere in northeast PA as I remember. Since my brother and I had visited a few Meadowbrook Concours d'Elegance events, we thought it would be a neat idea to attend one of the M100 meets as pics of a bunch of these vehicles in the same place would be pretty nice. I wrote a note to one of the fellows but got a
Re: [MBZ] Sometimes you just gotta wonder
'Think if I were going to photograph a car for sale, I'd do in daylight. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 9:45 AM Subject: [MBZ] Sometimes you just gotta wonder http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1597137098.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT olympic death
A fellow was killed today practising for the luge competition for the Olympics. Dangerous business. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
My question today is; What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD. I want to change it as it is really dark. The dealer parts man brought out two different cans and said that he didn't know which one was the right one. Yay. Not. So looking around I find all kinds of oils including someone who said anything with MIL-Spec-5606A which seems to be an airplane brake oil like Aeroshell 4. Anyone have any opinions or suggestions. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
I agree to a point. We have a programable tstat and set it to drop at night
to 60 degrees from the usual 68. That has saved us about 20% on our bill in
a decently insulated 50 year old home with new windows. I certainlyl dont'
think it works to heat the house in the morning - drop it for the day turn
it up for the evening then drop for the ngiht, to many hot cold cycles.
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:53 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:
I have read that it takes more energy to raise the temperature than it does
to maintain it. We are looking at
adding electric heat to the cottage and mother gripes about the cost of
electricity. I have talked to her about the
issue and told her that she will have to leave them alone but I wonder if
she will be able to restrain herself.
Randy
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:52 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle speed
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:48 -0600, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:
My mother is funny. She constantly turns the thermostat up and down
rather than just leave it alone. In our house, we essentially never
touch the thermostat this time of year. We don't have the the fancy
programmable one either. We just leave it alone. The temperature stays
pretty constant.
I bought a programmable thermostat last fall ('08). I set it up to
raise and lower the temperature setting according to our usual
work/school patterns. My gas usage increased. I went back to the
manual and we only change it if we're going to be away for more
than a day.
Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?
Is that close to the Amelia Island Concours they have once a year? From TV they have some extraordinary cars there! Yeah, some people are there to show what their checkbook has bought and it has nothing to do with having a passion for great old cars. Seeing a old Ferrari, Porsche, Cobra or Ferrari selling for a million $$s or more makes very little sense to me. I know it can cost 6 figures to restore a neat old car but some of those cars are nothing more than a rusty chassis which is turned into a 100 pt Concours car - excuse me auto-mo-bile. Have to enunciate properly. ;-) Larry OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I am fortunate to live a short bike ride over to Kiawah Island, which is like a zoo for older rich white people. Last fall sometime they had a car display at one of the parks on a gorgeous Saturday morning, so I pedaled over to look at the cars. There were some nice rides there, and some people sitting around, walking around, whatever. I attempted to engage some of them in idle conversation about the cars, etc. and no one seemed to be the least bit happy to be there or interested in sharing an interest in nice cars. That really bothered me. I think it was more of a who has a bigger kind of thing rather than enjoying nice cars on a beautiful day. I would wager I am happier driving my 26 and 31yo stinky Benzes and 34yo ratty Cad than any of them are in their $n00,000 spotless cars. I just don't get it, they seem to have very pampered but not very happy lives. --R E M wrote: I agree, 100% Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 16:29, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz, Rollers, Ferrari. I once asked or tried to strike up a conversation about Ferraris with one of the guys. I was told, by someone else, he doesn't like to talk about his other cars. Well, someone might want to tell him, and others, that owning several cars, even nice ones, are probably some of the worst kept secrets within a car club. lol. ( Wonder if he was reluctant to talk about his Mercedes to his Ferrari friends?) lol I find a lot of the attitude is not so much with the owners of certain cars, but more with people who have purchased certain cars, but can't really afford to treat them for what they are, cars. From my experience, the people who really love and buy these cars for what they are, are more than happy to show them off to whoever has an interest in them. It's like anything in life, you're going to get a few goofballs in any group of people. Whatever you drive, there will always be people who have something cooler, and more of them, so a bit of modesty never hurts. You know, those old fashioned social graces, that don't always come standard with an old used 600. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 15:00, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: When I was working/living in NY state and wasting my money on The Star magazine, there was an article on the M100 (I hope I remembered the name right) club which meets once a year in southern NY state. There are two main players who operate things in this club and the other fellow lives somewhere in northeast PA as I remember. Since my brother and I had visited a few Meadowbrook Concours d'Elegance events, we thought it would be a neat idea to attend one of the M100 meets as pics of a bunch of these vehicles in the same place would be pretty nice. I wrote a note to one of the fellows but got a somewhat snobbish note in return indicating that their meets were for M100 members only. As much as some of you/us may lust after these vehicles, I doubt if we'd fit into their club as my opinion of most of you on this list would suggest that we just wouldn't fit in even if we could afford one of these beasts. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list
Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death
He went off the track at 89mph and hit a steel pole. I am no luger or Olympian, but I might think they could use some orange netting around the course, kinda like on the downhill ski runs, that would catch you and slow you down before you hit stationary objects. --R R A Bennell wrote: A fellow was killed today practising for the luge competition for the Olympics. Dangerous business. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
MB sells the proper stuff in blue liter bottles, you can get it from our various suppliers. Not cheap, but it is something you do like every 10 years or so. --R MG wrote: My question today is; What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD. I want to change it as it is really dark. The dealer parts man brought out two different cans and said that he didn't know which one was the right one. Yay. Not. So looking around I find all kinds of oils including someone who said anything with MIL-Spec-5606A which seems to be an airplane brake oil like Aeroshell 4. Anyone have any opinions or suggestions. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death
Yes - easy to see 20 20 for hindsight - but you would think that the contiengency of running off the edge would have been considered, and netting or padding would have been added. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: He went off the track at 89mph and hit a steel pole. I am no luger or Olympian, but I might think they could use some orange netting around the course, kinda like on the downhill ski runs, that would catch you and slow you down before you hit stationary objects. --R R A Bennell wrote: A fellow was killed today practising for the luge competition for the Olympics. Dangerous business. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death
I suspect they are now working on that. Probably did not expect bodies to fly that high if an accident occured. Tragic but a dangerous occupation and although he was young, I suppose he knew it was such. Got to feel for his family and friends who were no doubt thrilled that he was going to be in the Olympics. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 4:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death He went off the track at 89mph and hit a steel pole. I am no luger or Olympian, but I might think they could use some orange netting around the course, kinda like on the downhill ski runs, that would catch you and slow you down before you hit stationary objects. --R R A Bennell wrote: A fellow was killed today practising for the luge competition for the Olympics. Dangerous business. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
I have used febi/Bilstein 02615 hydraulic fluid ZH-M in my '79 300TD. It has a label showing 000 989 91 03 10 as a (Mercedes?) part number. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil My question today is; What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD. I want to change it as it is really dark. The dealer parts man brought out two different cans and said that he didn't know which one was the right one. Yay. Not. So looking around I find all kinds of oils including someone who said anything with MIL-Spec-5606A which seems to be an airplane brake oil like Aeroshell 4. Anyone have any opinions or suggestions. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?
No that is down the coast around Savannah or somewhere, Hilton Head maybe. It is an organized deal, this thing at Kiawah was just some of the local gentry waving their, uh, cars and trophy bimbo wives (who were waving other things) around. Someone there was trying to sell a 560SL that had belonged to Ivana Trump in NYC, for like $11k or something close, it had been on CL for some time (have not seen it for awhile) and actually looked pretty nice, new interior and paint job, made me wonder what that was covering up. --R LarryT wrote: Is that close to the Amelia Island Concours they have once a year? From TV they have some extraordinary cars there! Yeah, some people are there to show what their checkbook has bought and it has nothing to do with having a passion for great old cars. Seeing a old Ferrari, Porsche, Cobra or Ferrari selling for a million $$s or more makes very little sense to me. I know it can cost 6 figures to restore a neat old car but some of those cars are nothing more than a rusty chassis which is turned into a 100 pt Concours car - excuse me auto-mo-bile. Have to enunciate properly. ;-) Larry OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I am fortunate to live a short bike ride over to Kiawah Island, which is like a zoo for older rich white people. Last fall sometime they had a car display at one of the parks on a gorgeous Saturday morning, so I pedaled over to look at the cars. There were some nice rides there, and some people sitting around, walking around, whatever. I attempted to engage some of them in idle conversation about the cars, etc. and no one seemed to be the least bit happy to be there or interested in sharing an interest in nice cars. That really bothered me. I think it was more of a who has a bigger kind of thing rather than enjoying nice cars on a beautiful day. I would wager I am happier driving my 26 and 31yo stinky Benzes and 34yo ratty Cad than any of them are in their $n00,000 spotless cars. I just don't get it, they seem to have very pampered but not very happy lives. --R E M wrote: I agree, 100% Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 16:29, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz, Rollers, Ferrari. I once asked or tried to strike up a conversation about Ferraris with one of the guys. I was told, by someone else, he doesn't like to talk about his other cars. Well, someone might want to tell him, and others, that owning several cars, even nice ones, are probably some of the worst kept secrets within a car club. lol. ( Wonder if he was reluctant to talk about his Mercedes to his Ferrari friends?) lol I find a lot of the attitude is not so much with the owners of certain cars, but more with people who have purchased certain cars, but can't really afford to treat them for what they are, cars. From my experience, the people who really love and buy these cars for what they are, are more than happy to show them off to whoever has an interest in them. It's like anything in life, you're going to get a few goofballs in any group of people. Whatever you drive, there will always be people who have something cooler, and more of them, so a bit of modesty never hurts. You know, those old fashioned social graces, that don't always come standard with an old used 600. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 15:00, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: When I was working/living in NY state and wasting my money on The Star magazine, there was an article on the M100 (I hope I remembered the name right) club which meets once a year in southern NY state. There are two main players who operate things in this club and the other fellow lives somewhere in northeast PA as I remember. Since my brother and I had visited a few Meadowbrook Concours d'Elegance events, we thought it would be a neat idea to attend one of the M100 meets as pics of a bunch of these vehicles in the same place would be pretty nice. I wrote a note to one of the fellows but got a somewhat snobbish note in return indicating that their meets were for M100 members only. As much as some of you/us may lust after these vehicles, I doubt if we'd fit into their club as my opinion of most of you on this list would suggest that we just wouldn't fit in even if we could afford one of these beasts. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC
Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death
That can be dangerous too. I recall seeing a clip of an accident with a skier who hit a fence and ripped off a leg. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Peter Hertzing Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 4:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death Yes - easy to see 20 20 for hindsight - but you would think that the contiengency of running off the edge would have been considered, and netting or padding would have been added. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: He went off the track at 89mph and hit a steel pole. I am no luger or Olympian, but I might think they could use some orange netting around the course, kinda like on the downhill ski runs, that would catch you and slow you down before you hit stationary objects. --R R A Bennell wrote: A fellow was killed today practising for the luge competition for the Olympics. Dangerous business. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death
Yep - and those who were involved in his post accident treatment. No one wants to lose that battle. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:53 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: I suspect they are now working on that. Probably did not expect bodies to fly that high if an accident occured. Tragic but a dangerous occupation and although he was young, I suppose he knew it was such. Got to feel for his family and friends who were no doubt thrilled that he was going to be in the Olympics. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 4:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death He went off the track at 89mph and hit a steel pole. I am no luger or Olympian, but I might think they could use some orange netting around the course, kinda like on the downhill ski runs, that would catch you and slow you down before you hit stationary objects. --R R A Bennell wrote: A fellow was killed today practising for the luge competition for the Olympics. Dangerous business. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 Diesel for sale
Mountain Man wrote: Thomas wrote: I would be all over it, but the 140 has been so inexpensive to own that I can't justify switching. Didn't you used to drive a W123? - 240D? mao 300D. In 2007 the rust just exploded like unchecked bacteria. It had 348,000 miles and the suspension needed to be rebuilt again. It never let me down and was the best car I'll ever own, but ooh the 140 is a smooth ride. Still yearn for something with a clutch, though. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death
Wow, I bet that hurt, but less than being dead maybe. --R R A Bennell wrote: That can be dangerous too. I recall seeing a clip of an accident with a skier who hit a fence and ripped off a leg. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Peter Hertzing Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 4:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death Yes - easy to see 20 20 for hindsight - but you would think that the contiengency of running off the edge would have been considered, and netting or padding would have been added. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: He went off the track at 89mph and hit a steel pole. I am no luger or Olympian, but I might think they could use some orange netting around the course, kinda like on the downhill ski runs, that would catch you and slow you down before you hit stationary objects. --R R A Bennell wrote: A fellow was killed today practising for the luge competition for the Olympics. Dangerous business. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?
You know that old saying Larry, there are now 3 times more Bugatti's out there than ever left the factory. lol. Prices got so crazy, if you had an old chassis, engine, or gearbox, you had the makings of a restored car. lol. Problem was, the cars were broken up over time, everyone with a chassis, engine, or gearbox built a new car around it, and ended up with an original Bug. lol. I'm not sure how much a true lover of old cars could get from something that is 90% less than 10 years old. As a lover of car, and and particularly of older vintage cars, nothing does it for me more than the survivors. Bit of rust or faded paint, nothing like seeing them as they left the factory. Those are the real deal. Ed 300E On 12 February 2010 17:44, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I know it can cost 6 figures to restore a neat old car but some of those cars are nothing more than a rusty chassis which is turned into a 100 pt Concours car - excuse me auto-mo-bile. Have to enunciate properly. ;-) Larry OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I am fortunate to live a short bike ride over to Kiawah Island, which is like a zoo for older rich white people. Last fall sometime they had a car display at one of the parks on a gorgeous Saturday morning, so I pedaled over to look at the cars. There were some nice rides there, and some people sitting around, walking around, whatever. I attempted to engage some of them in idle conversation about the cars, etc. and no one seemed to be the least bit happy to be there or interested in sharing an interest in nice cars. That really bothered me. I think it was more of a who has a bigger kind of thing rather than enjoying nice cars on a beautiful day. I would wager I am happier driving my 26 and 31yo stinky Benzes and 34yo ratty Cad than any of them are in their $n00,000 spotless cars. I just don't get it, they seem to have very pampered but not very happy lives. --R E M wrote: I agree, 100% Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 16:29, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz, Rollers, Ferrari. I once asked or tried to strike up a conversation about Ferraris with one of the guys. I was told, by someone else, he doesn't like to talk about his other cars. Well, someone might want to tell him, and others, that owning several cars, even nice ones, are probably some of the worst kept secrets within a car club. lol. ( Wonder if he was reluctant to talk about his Mercedes to his Ferrari friends?) lol I find a lot of the attitude is not so much with the owners of certain cars, but more with people who have purchased certain cars, but can't really afford to treat them for what they are, cars. From my experience, the people who really love and buy these cars for what they are, are more than happy to show them off to whoever has an interest in them. It's like anything in life, you're going to get a few goofballs in any group of people. Whatever you drive, there will always be people who have something cooler, and more of them, so a bit of modesty never hurts. You know, those old fashioned social graces, that don't always come standard with an old used 600. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 15:00, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: When I was working/living in NY state and wasting my money on The Star magazine, there was an article on the M100 (I hope I remembered the name right) club which meets once a year in southern NY state. There are two main players who operate things in this club and the other fellow lives somewhere in northeast PA as I remember. Since my brother and I had visited a few Meadowbrook Concours d'Elegance events, we thought it would be a neat idea to attend one of the M100 meets as pics of a bunch of these vehicles in the same place would be pretty nice. I wrote a note to one of the fellows but got a somewhat snobbish note in return indicating that their meets were for M100 members only. As much as some of you/us may lust after these vehicles, I doubt if we'd fit into their club as my opinion of most of you on this list would suggest that we just wouldn't fit in even if we could afford one of these beasts. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM
[MBZ] Steering box replacement
Got the steering box replaced last night. Was easier than I was fearing, but still a hassle since I'm way out of shape and my left arm is weak from the accident (and my failure to strengthen it up). Took about 3.5 hours, but this includes replacement of drag link and right tie rod (did the left one earlier) and a new steering damper. I think the drag link and tie rod may have been OK, but it's too cheap to risk beating a new one to death by leaving old ones of unknown condition in place. The box is HEAVY for a fat old man lying on a creeper on the floor -- I suspect it might be easier on a lift. It would be much easier if you can hold 60 lbs in one hand for an hour or so Key points: Everything is keyed, so you can't get it in way off center. The coupler has a square for the column side, with a notch for the bolt. There is a notch on the other side for the bolt, too, so you can't get it on wrong. Ditto for Pitman arm. You should measure the distance from the lower bearing on the pitman arm, as it can be moved up and down a bit, but it won't go on wrong. The bolt for the column side requires a LONG extension (at least 12, more is better), but it's not bad. The coupling came of very easily, and the box comes out the bottom easily. We used an impact wrench on the three frame to box bolts, it's not easy to reach them otherwise without a long extension, and that's too floppy. Going back in, you MUST put the bolt in the upper coupler hole BEFORE you put the bolts holding the box to the frame, as it's impossible to push the column into the coupler once the box is bolted on. I suppose one person can do this if you have a lift, but it took three of use (my brother holding the box up with a loop of rope, me guiding things on the floor, and my nephew putting the bolts in). One the floor, it's not possible to hold the box up AND reach the bolts, although on a lilt I think you could. It drives like a new car, even though I don't have the alignment done yet (very close, doesn't pull at all but the wheel is crooked). I had forgotten how quiet a W124 is supposed to be, no tire or suspension noise on normal roads unless actually hitting a bump or hole. No wander, no crosswind sensetivity, it's great. I just wish I'd done this a couple years ago! Now I need to do all the links and mounts in the back and put an evaporator in. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Buy the proper stuff at the dealer or from Rusty (or PeachParts or wherever). Do NOT substitute anything else, way too expensive if it is incompatible with something. I do not think it is plain 10W hydraulic oil Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Rusty was a great suggestion! --Original Message-- From: Peter Frederick Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Feb 12, 2010 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil Buy the proper stuff at the dealer or from Rusty (or PeachParts or wherever). Do NOT substitute anything else, way too expensive if it is incompatible with something. I do not think it is plain 10W hydraulic oil Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Buy the MB OE stuff from Rusty. If you want to know how to purge the system, drop me a note and I can go through it with you. Not a big deal to do. Dan --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 5:46 PM MB sells the proper stuff in blue liter bottles, you can get it from our various suppliers. Not cheap, but it is something you do like every 10 years or so. --R MG wrote: My question today is; What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD. I want to change it as it is really dark. The dealer parts man brought out two different cans and said that he didn't know which one was the right one. Yay. Not. So looking around I find all kinds of oils including someone who said anything with MIL-Spec-5606A which seems to be an airplane brake oil like Aeroshell 4. Anyone have any opinions or suggestions. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
'Rode with friend to Columbia, SC, this morning to help him pick up a '28 Model
AA Ford truck that he bought on e-Bay coupla days ago. Photos looked great, of
course, and included photos of manifold heater (a shroud on top of exhaust
manifold that directs heat from manifold into cabin) installed; even showed
turn switch on steering column and the lights installed front and rear. Friend
asked about tires; seller told him, They're in excellent condition - nearly
new; everything works; I wouldn't hesitate to drive it anywhere on a long trip
right now. Friend asked about speedometer, fuel gauge and windshield wiper.
Seller stated, Oh, they work, everything works. Friend asked, What about
leaks? Reply: No leaks. Engine has just been rebuilt.
Friend's original plan was to trailer the truck home, but couldn't readily find
a trailer big/long enough (truck is not a pickup, but a 1 1/2 ton, I think).
Seller promised such perfect product, friend decided to drive it home ('bout
200 mi), and I'd drive his car home.
As I was getting out of car in driveway beside the truck, I noticed heater
shroud lying in cargo bed of truck and many age/dry rot cracks in the tires -
nearly new tires, my etc. With my walker, I hobbled around to driver door of
the truck and glanced through the window, immediately noticing wires hanging
from the turn signal switch - working turn signals, my etc. By then, friend
and seller were approaching driver side of the truck, and I retreated to
friend's car to prepare for my driving it home, saying, I'll get out of your
way; y'all take your time; I'll just wait here in the car 'til you're ready to
go. Seller got in the truck, started it and turned on headlights, friend
walked around it checking the lights and got in the driver side of truck; I
thought they would take it for an extensive check-out drive, bur seller
proceeded to his car as friend waved to me to follow them. I yelled to ask him
if they were coming back here. No, he replied, Just follow us up to the
bank a quarter mile away; we'll transfer title there.
I followed 'em to the bank and waited a few minutes for the them to conclude
the transaction. Seller left; friend came to the truck, where I was waiting
beside it in the car. As friend prepared to leave in the truck, he told me
that seller had just confirmed that speedometer, fuel gauge and windshield
wiper don't work, in contrast to the glowing promises about how perfect
everything was while they were on the phone.
I wanted to drive along behind the truck on trip home, but friend insisted
adamantly that I leave him and come on home via Interstate highways while he
takes non-interstate at 40 mph. After he assured me that he is fully prepared
for the trip alone, with extra clothes, flashlight, extra battery, AAA card,
etc., I left him and came on home.
'Called friend coupla times since arriving home; he's a little over half way
here, but he's having to stop about every 20 miles to put water in the truck
because of a radiator leak. He called few minutes ago and asked if were OK to
put Stopleak in the radiator.
What are your opinions of Stopleak or such products? How might they complicate
later repairs to radiator, etc. Do they also leave deposits in the block to
need removal later?
BTW, I drove friend's Honda Fit home; it's quick,but I sure much rather drive
my 23 and 19-year-old MBs. ;
Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death
Rich Thomas wrote: Wow, I bet that hurt, but less than being dead maybe. If cutting your femoral artery can result in death in a few minutes, what does ripping your leg off do? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:23 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Rode with friend to Columbia, SC, this morning to help him pick up a '28 Model AA Ford truck that he bought on e-Bay coupla Should have had a Columbi-Q, my parents are there so I could have had a good excuse to visit, and I know there are several SC listers. :) That's kind of a dreary trip and worse by yourself, glad your friend was prepared. 'Called friend coupla times since arriving home; he's a little over half way here, but he's having to stop about every 20 miles to put water in the truck because of a radiator leak. He called few minutes ago and asked if were OK to put Stopleak in the radiator. What are your opinions of Stopleak or such products? How might they complicate later repairs to radiator, etc. Do they also leave deposits in the block to need removal later? I've always been told to steer clear of them regardless of the mechanic's age, but in a '28 Ford... Seems like it would have the same problem, heat + dry = hardening, not necessarily where you want it. I have noticed that straight Zyrex is much thicker than regular antifreeze, but if it leaks you're out a lot more cash. Are you all in the path of the snow? If so he might want the stopleak anyway, and deal with the consequences later. If not I'd counsel him to ride it out, should be able to buy a half-dozen antifreeze jugs and fill them at local restaurants as they run low. BTW, I drove friend's Honda Fit home; it's quick,but I sure much rather drive my 23 and 19-year-old MBs. ; Safer than a Toyota, but the '28 Ford will be classier I think. :) -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Yeah, one of the bottles was blue but it said Power steering fluid in German on it. It was also part synthetic. The other one was a gray/silver color and only said hydraulic fluid. My inclination was to go with the gray one. I just want a quorum before I commit. Thanks, Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:46:55 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil MB sells the proper stuff in blue liter bottles, you can get it from our various suppliers. Not cheap, but it is something you do like every 10 years or so. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
I found that on line and was also considering that as an option. Thanks, Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:50:26 -0800 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil I have used febi/Bilstein 02615 hydraulic fluid ZH-M in my '79 300TD. It has a label showing 000 989 91 03 10 as a (Mercedes?) part number. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
'Just talked to friend driving the Model AA truck; he's about 50 miles from
home. 'Said he stopped at an auto parts store and put some stuff in the
radiator; leak has stopped for now. BTW, when I called him an hour or so
ago, I asked him if he had checked the fuel recently. He replied that he
had not, but would at next service station. He just told me coupla minutes
ago that immediately after that last call to him, he came upon a station way
out in the sticks (very isolated), pulled in and checked the fuel; 'found it
VERY low; 'put 9.5 gallons in the 10-gallon tank. Lucky, lucky.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:23 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
'Rode with friend to Columbia, SC, this morning to help him pick up a '28
Model AA Ford truck that he bought on e-Bay coupla days ago. Photos
looked great, of course, and included photos of manifold heater (a shroud
on top of exhaust manifold that directs heat from manifold into cabin)
installed; even showed turn switch on steering column and the lights
installed front and rear. Friend asked about tires; seller told him,
They're in excellent condition - nearly new; everything works; I wouldn't
hesitate to drive it anywhere on a long trip right now. Friend asked
about speedometer, fuel gauge and windshield wiper. Seller stated, Oh,
they work, everything works. Friend asked, What about leaks? Reply:
No leaks. Engine has just been rebuilt.
Friend's original plan was to trailer the truck home, but couldn't readily
find a trailer big/long enough (truck is not a pickup, but a 1 1/2 ton, I
think). Seller promised such perfect product, friend decided to drive it
home ('bout 200 mi), and I'd drive his car home.
As I was getting out of car in driveway beside the truck, I noticed heater
shroud lying in cargo bed of truck and many age/dry rot cracks in the
tires - nearly new tires, my etc. With my walker, I hobbled around to
driver door of the truck and glanced through the window, immediately
noticing wires hanging from the turn signal switch - working turn signals,
my etc. By then, friend and seller were approaching driver side of the
truck, and I retreated to friend's car to prepare for my driving it home,
saying, I'll get out of your way; y'all take your time; I'll just wait
here in the car 'til you're ready to go. Seller got in the truck,
started it and turned on headlights, friend walked around it checking the
lights and got in the driver side of truck; I thought they would take it
for an extensive check-out drive, bur seller proceeded to his car as
friend waved to me to follow them. I yelled to ask him if they were
coming back here. No, he replied, Just follow us up to the bank a
quarter mile away; we'll transfer title there.
I followed 'em to the bank and waited a few minutes for the them to
conclude the transaction. Seller left; friend came to the truck, where I
was waiting beside it in the car. As friend prepared to leave in the
truck, he told me that seller had just confirmed that speedometer, fuel
gauge and windshield wiper don't work, in contrast to the glowing promises
about how perfect everything was while they were on the phone.
I wanted to drive along behind the truck on trip home, but friend insisted
adamantly that I leave him and come on home via Interstate highways while
he takes non-interstate at 40 mph. After he assured me that he is fully
prepared for the trip alone, with extra clothes, flashlight, extra
battery, AAA card, etc., I left him and came on home.
'Called friend coupla times since arriving home; he's a little over half
way here, but he's having to stop about every 20 miles to put water in the
truck because of a radiator leak. He called few minutes ago and asked if
were OK to put Stopleak in the radiator.
What are your opinions of Stopleak or such products? How might they
complicate later repairs to radiator, etc. Do they also leave deposits in
the block to need removal later?
BTW, I drove friend's Honda Fit home; it's quick,but I sure much rather
drive my 23 and 19-year-old MBs. ;
Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
I'm reluctant to use Stopleak stuff in radiators, too. Possible little bit of snow tonight or tomorrow. Wilton Goldsboro, NC (55 mi SE Raleigh) - Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:23 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Rode with friend to Columbia, SC, this morning to help him pick up a '28 Model AA Ford truck that he bought on e-Bay coupla Should have had a Columbi-Q, my parents are there so I could have had a good excuse to visit, and I know there are several SC listers. :) That's kind of a dreary trip and worse by yourself, glad your friend was prepared. 'Called friend coupla times since arriving home; he's a little over half way here, but he's having to stop about every 20 miles to put water in the truck because of a radiator leak. He called few minutes ago and asked if were OK to put Stopleak in the radiator. What are your opinions of Stopleak or such products? How might they complicate later repairs to radiator, etc. Do they also leave deposits in the block to need removal later? I've always been told to steer clear of them regardless of the mechanic's age, but in a '28 Ford... Seems like it would have the same problem, heat + dry = hardening, not necessarily where you want it. I have noticed that straight Zyrex is much thicker than regular antifreeze, but if it leaks you're out a lot more cash. Are you all in the path of the snow? If so he might want the stopleak anyway, and deal with the consequences later. If not I'd counsel him to ride it out, should be able to buy a half-dozen antifreeze jugs and fill them at local restaurants as they run low. BTW, I drove friend's Honda Fit home; it's quick,but I sure much rather drive my 23 and 19-year-old MBs. ; Safer than a Toyota, but the '28 Ford will be classier I think. :) -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R.I.P. LORAN
Wonko the Sane/Lt Don, USCG (Ret) Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] R.I.P. LORAN Who was the Coastie that was bemoaning the decommissioning of the LORAN system? I ask because I just talked to the guys at the LORAN site in Dana, Indiana. We service the generators that back up the site. They turn off the transmitter on Monday. The site is being mothballed and turned over to the local government after the USCG gets their toys out of it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
Oh, more rant: friend told me during that last call to ''im that he can't
shift from third gear to second while rolling; lotsa gear grinding when he
tries it.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
'Just talked to friend driving the Model AA truck; he's about 50 miles
from home. 'Said he stopped at an auto parts store and put some stuff in
the radiator; leak has stopped for now. BTW, when I called him an hour or
so ago, I asked him if he had checked the fuel recently. He replied
that he had not, but would at next service station. He just told me
coupla minutes ago that immediately after that last call to him, he came
upon a station way out in the sticks (very isolated), pulled in and
checked the fuel; 'found it VERY low; 'put 9.5 gallons in the 10-gallon
tank. Lucky, lucky.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:23 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
'Rode with friend to Columbia, SC, this morning to help him pick up a '28
Model AA Ford truck that he bought on e-Bay coupla days ago. Photos
looked great, of course, and included photos of manifold heater (a shroud
on top of exhaust manifold that directs heat from manifold into cabin)
installed; even showed turn switch on steering column and the lights
installed front and rear. Friend asked about tires; seller told him,
They're in excellent condition - nearly new; everything works; I
wouldn't hesitate to drive it anywhere on a long trip right now. Friend
asked about speedometer, fuel gauge and windshield wiper. Seller stated,
Oh, they work, everything works. Friend asked, What about leaks?
Reply: No leaks. Engine has just been rebuilt.
Friend's original plan was to trailer the truck home, but couldn't
readily find a trailer big/long enough (truck is not a pickup, but a 1
1/2 ton, I think). Seller promised such perfect product, friend decided
to drive it home ('bout 200 mi), and I'd drive his car home.
As I was getting out of car in driveway beside the truck, I noticed
heater shroud lying in cargo bed of truck and many age/dry rot cracks in
the tires - nearly new tires, my etc. With my walker, I hobbled around
to driver door of the truck and glanced through the window, immediately
noticing wires hanging from the turn signal switch - working turn
signals, my etc. By then, friend and seller were approaching driver side
of the truck, and I retreated to friend's car to prepare for my driving
it home, saying, I'll get out of your way; y'all take your time; I'll
just wait here in the car 'til you're ready to go. Seller got in the
truck, started it and turned on headlights, friend walked around it
checking the lights and got in the driver side of truck; I thought they
would take it for an extensive check-out drive, bur seller proceeded to
his car as friend waved to me to follow them. I yelled to ask him if
they were coming back here. No, he replied, Just follow us up to the
bank a quarter mile away; we'll transfer title there.
I followed 'em to the bank and waited a few minutes for the them to
conclude the transaction. Seller left; friend came to the truck, where I
was waiting beside it in the car. As friend prepared to leave in the
truck, he told me that seller had just confirmed that speedometer, fuel
gauge and windshield wiper don't work, in contrast to the glowing
promises about how perfect everything was while they were on the phone.
I wanted to drive along behind the truck on trip home, but friend
insisted adamantly that I leave him and come on home via Interstate
highways while he takes non-interstate at 40 mph. After he assured me
that he is fully prepared for the trip alone, with extra clothes,
flashlight, extra battery, AAA card, etc., I left him and came on home.
'Called friend coupla times since arriving home; he's a little over half
way here, but he's having to stop about every 20 miles to put water in
the truck because of a radiator leak. He called few minutes ago and
asked if were OK to put Stopleak in the radiator.
What are your opinions of Stopleak or such products? How might they
complicate later repairs to radiator, etc. Do they also leave deposits
in the block to need removal later?
BTW, I drove friend's Honda Fit home; it's quick,but I sure much rather
drive my 23 and 19-year-old MBs. ;
Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: 'Called friend coupla times since arriving home; he's a little over half way here, but he's having to stop about every 20 miles to put water in the truck because of a radiator leak. He called few minutes ago and asked if were OK to put Stopleak in the radiator. What are your opinions of Stopleak or such products? How might they complicate later repairs to radiator, etc. Do they also leave deposits in the block to need removal later? Honestly, if it's leaking that much I don't know that stopleak will plug it. That stuff is basically for pinholes. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Odd you should mention Rusty. I checked the site but couldn't find any oil listed. I see that Rusty thinks it's a good idea to check with him. I could of course wish he thought it was good enough to list it but since I am unable to think of everything, why should I require it of him. :-) I need a couple of kits for the guide rod bushing anyway so I guess I will have to call. The good thing is that it should also be on sale as it is a suspension part isn't it? I'll find out tomorrow, Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:34:26 -0600 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil Buy the proper stuff at the dealer or from Rusty (or PeachParts or wherever). Do NOT substitute anything else, way too expensive if it is incompatible with something. I do not think it is plain 10W hydraulic oil Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
You know I thought that too until I really paid attention... The Prestone 50/50 stuff is $6+ at Autozone ($6.50 I think) while G-05 is $11.95 at Car Quest and each gallon makes two... One of my snowmobiles was having strange overheating episodes, not actually overheating but getting quite high on the gauge, higher than I thought it should be. I decided to drain the overflow bottle (which is actually the top radiator tank on a snowmobile) and refill with G-05. The quart that lives in that tank is a significant portion of the coolant total. When I drained the tank I thought geez that looks awful thick. I *think* what happened is that somebody ran straight green anti-freeze and its so thick that at low engine speeds it has a hard time getting through the thermostat. With a quart of 50/50 G-05 in the tank almost all of the heating issues are gone. I need to drain and replace the system totally at some point, maybe in the spring... -Curt Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:39:48 -0500 From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar Message-ID: e5fe3f3d1002121639s9399b50hce5739630d088...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have noticed that straight Zyrex is much thicker than regular antifreeze, but if it leaks you're out a lot more cash. -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
I'm surprised he took the truck. I'd have been up one side of the seller and down the other every third word would be liar. At the very least the seller wouldn't have gotten all the money. He should definitely give the guy negative feedback and include the words lied to me in the feedback description. That truck doesn't have a synchromesh trans does it? First thing to do will be to change the trans oil. With luck its just old and crusty. -Curt Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:11:41 -0500 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar Message-ID: 29d4977c6b4a431a8a60ff8994bd0...@wiltonpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Oh, more rant: friend told me during that last call to ''im that he can't shift from third gear to second while rolling; lotsa gear grinding when he tries it. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death
He was 21. I almost remember being 21. At that age, you feel invincible. I have hiking boots older than him. As a motorcycle rider, I find some dark humour in the fact that his helmet didn't save him. (No helmet laws in Iowa.) All that said, it is very sad. He had to be a very good athlete to get to this level of competition, and a wrong swing of the hips in a turn cost him his life. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:53 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: I suspect they are now working on that. Probably did not expect bodies to fly that high if an accident occured. Tragic but a dangerous occupation and although he was young, I suppose he knew it was such. Got to feel for his family and friends who were no doubt thrilled that he was going to be in the Olympics. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 4:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death He went off the track at 89mph and hit a steel pole. I am no luger or Olympian, but I might think they could use some orange netting around the course, kinda like on the downhill ski runs, that would catch you and slow you down before you hit stationary objects. --R R A Bennell wrote: A fellow was killed today practising for the luge competition for the Olympics. Dangerous business. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers. -- Oscar Wilde ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering box replacement
I suppose one person can do this if you have a lift, but it took three of use (my brother holding the box up with a loop of rope, me guiding things on the floor, and my nephew putting the bolts in). One the floor, it's not possible to hold the box up AND reach the bolts, although on a lilt I think you could. I managed alone on the 123 300D, but it was a real ordeal. (I imagine that the cars vary as to the practicality.) I hung it from a string at nearly the right height, then I worked on it (from above) to get it seated. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 300TD suspension oil
What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD? I've been using the $2/quart Royco 756 aircraft brake oil that I got off Craigslist. Until I can find the leak. Then I've got two bottles of the real deal I got from Rusty to put in. The real stuff's clear, the 756 is red, and is MIL-PRF-5606H rated (same as the real deal). -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
The web site is driven by one vendor, I have access to everything. If you don't see it on the web just call. We have it. --Original Message-- From: MG Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Feb 12, 2010 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil Odd you should mention Rusty. I checked the site but couldn't find any oil listed. I see that Rusty thinks it's a good idea to check with him. I could of course wish he thought it was good enough to list it but since I am unable to think of everything, why should I require it of him. :-) I need a couple of kits for the guide rod bushing anyway so I guess I will have to call. The good thing is that it should also be on sale as it is a suspension part isn't it? I'll find out tomorrow, Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:34:26 -0600 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil Buy the proper stuff at the dealer or from Rusty (or PeachParts or wherever). Do NOT substitute anything else, way too expensive if it is incompatible with something. I do not think it is plain 10W hydraulic oil Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar
Friend just (10 PM) got home with the Model AA. 'Drove last 30 miles in near blinding snow; much accumulation on windshield; 'was able to move wiper a little bit somehow occasionally to make peep hole. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another e-Bay seller liar On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:23 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Rode with friend to Columbia, SC, this morning to help him pick up a '28 Model AA Ford truck that he bought on e-Bay coupla Should have had a Columbi-Q, my parents are there so I could have had a good excuse to visit, and I know there are several SC listers. :) That's kind of a dreary trip and worse by yourself, glad your friend was prepared. 'Called friend coupla times since arriving home; he's a little over half way here, but he's having to stop about every 20 miles to put water in the truck because of a radiator leak. He called few minutes ago and asked if were OK to put Stopleak in the radiator. What are your opinions of Stopleak or such products? How might they complicate later repairs to radiator, etc. Do they also leave deposits in the block to need removal later? I've always been told to steer clear of them regardless of the mechanic's age, but in a '28 Ford... Seems like it would have the same problem, heat + dry = hardening, not necessarily where you want it. I have noticed that straight Zyrex is much thicker than regular antifreeze, but if it leaks you're out a lot more cash. Are you all in the path of the snow? If so he might want the stopleak anyway, and deal with the consequences later. If not I'd counsel him to ride it out, should be able to buy a half-dozen antifreeze jugs and fill them at local restaurants as they run low. BTW, I drove friend's Honda Fit home; it's quick,but I sure much rather drive my 23 and 19-year-old MBs. ; Safer than a Toyota, but the '28 Ford will be classier I think. :) -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
