Re: [zfs-discuss] available space

2010-02-13 Thread Thomas Burgess
one shows pool size, one shows filesystem size. the pool size is based on raw space. the zfs list size shows how much is used and how much usable space is ableable. for instance, i use raidz2 with 1tb drives so if i do zpool list i see ALL the space, including parity, but if i do zfs list i onl

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced

2010-02-09 Thread Thomas Burgess
> Since I started this, let me explain to those who can't begin to understand > why I proposed something so "stupid". At work (branch of a federal gov't > big-5 Department) I need 40TB but have next to nothing in budget. (For some > reason all you damn citizens think you're entitled to keep most of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Anyone with experience with a PCI-X SSD card?

2010-02-08 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: > Erik Trimble wrote: > >> I've a couple of older systems that are front-ending a large backup array. >> >> I'd like to put in a large L2ARC cache device for them to use with dedup. >>Right now, they only have Ultra320 SCA 3.5" hot-swap dri

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-08 Thread Thomas Burgess
> On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > This is a far cry from an apples to apples comparison though. > > As much as I'm no fan of Apple, it's a pity they dropped ZFS because > that would have brought considerable attention to the op

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-08 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Tim Cook wrote: > On Monday, February 8, 2010, Kjetil Torgrim Homme > wrote: > > Daniel Carosone writes: > > > >> In that context, I haven't seen an answer, just a conclusion: > >> > >> - All else is not equal, so I give my money to some other hardware > >>m

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-08 Thread Thomas Burgess
Just like i said way earlier, The entire idea is like asking to buy a Ferrari without the aluminum wheels they sell because you think they are charging too much for them, after all, aluminum is cheap. It's just not done that way. There are OTHER OPTIONS for people who can't afford it. You reall

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool list size

2010-02-08 Thread Thomas Burgess
i don't see it as completely useless. Different reports for different things. zpool status is the status of the POOL. It makes PERFECT sense that it would show the raw data stats. zfs list and df show different things because they are different tools for different jobs. It can be confusing at

[zfs-discuss] acl's and new dirs

2010-02-06 Thread Thomas Burgess
I've got a strange issue, If this is covered elsewhere, i apologize in advance for my newbness I've got a couple ZFS filesystems shared cifs and nfs, i've managed to get ACL's working the way i want, provided things are accessed via cifs and nfs. If i create a new dir via cifs or NFS then the ac

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-03 Thread Thomas Burgess
> > This seems to miss the point. I presented an argument for why I think the > qualified drives are a huge profit-center, not just making a reasonable > profit on the work of qualification. > > In general, I'd much rather pay reasonable costs for each piece, rather > than weird costs artificially

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:17 AM, matthew patton wrote: > > > charge a premium for their products but they ARE a > > enterprise vendor. You > > wouldn't say something like "hey, where can i buy a Ferrari > > without any > > wheels...i'm not paying x amount for a silly aluminum > > wheel" > > true.

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:58 PM, matthew patton wrote: > what with the home NAS conversations, what's the trick to buy a J4500 > without any drives? SUN like every other "enterprise" storage vendor thinks > it's ok to rape their customers and I for one, am not interested in paying > 10x for a sil

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

2010-01-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
I have 4 such htpc's based on the zotac ionitx board. It's wonderful. With VDPAU you can get 1080p video without any issues and it uses AT MOST 30 watts of power, but normally more like 15. I use opensolaris as my nas, currently in a norco 4020 case with 20 1TB drives on 3 AOC-SAT2-MV8 cards, ope

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration suggestion with 24 drives

2010-01-29 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > Thanks for the responses guys. It looks like I'll probably use RaidZ2 > > with 8 drives. The write bandwidth isn't that great as it'll be a > > hundred gigs every couple weeks but in a bulk load type of environment. > > So, not a majo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

2010-01-28 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Tiernan OToole wrote: > Good morning. This is more than likley a stupid question on this alias > but I will ask anyway. I am building a media server in the house and > am trying to figure out what os to install. I know it must have zfs > support but can't figure i

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration suggestion with 24 drives

2010-01-28 Thread Thomas Burgess
if a vdev fails you loose the pool. if you go with raidz1 and 2 of the RIGHT drives fail (2 in the same vdev) your pool is lost. I was faced with a similar situation recently and decided that raidz2 was the better option. It's comes down to resilver timesif you look at how long it will take

Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz using partitions

2010-01-27 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Albert Frenz wrote: > hi there, > > maybe this is a stupid question, yet i haven't found an answer anywhere ;) > let say i got 3x 1,5tb hdds, can i create equal partitions out of each and > make a raid5 out of it? sure the safety would drop, but that is not that >

Re: [zfs-discuss] sharesmb name not working

2010-01-26 Thread Thomas Burgess
> default nfs=() > zfs > myshare smb=() > mystuff=/tank/cindys > > # cat /etc/dfs/sharetab > /tank/cindys-...@myshare smb "" > > On 01/26/10 13:30, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > >> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Cindy

Re: [zfs-discuss] sharesmb name not working

2010-01-26 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Cindy Swearingen wrote: > D'oh. I didn't test the workaround because I was running off to a prezo. > > A quick test looks like you are correct. I apologize. > > Let me see if I can do some testing or get some more info. > > Thanks, > > Cindy > > > hehe, it's cool.

Re: [zfs-discuss] sharesmb name not working

2010-01-26 Thread Thomas Burgess
t; > http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6912791 > Unable to set sharename using zfs set sharesmb=name= > > The workaround is to use sharemgr instead. > > Thanks, > > Cindy > > > On 01/23/10 21:50, Thomas Burgess wrote: > >> I can&#x

Re: [zfs-discuss] sharesmb name not working

2010-01-26 Thread Thomas Burgess
so this is a bug in b131? because this worked in b130 for SURE. i have shares i made in b130 with different names but in b131 i can't do it.it sucks because in b130 i can't use Xorg but in b131 i can't name sharesoh well...how do i report this as an error so they can fix it for b132? O

[zfs-discuss] sharesmb name not working

2010-01-23 Thread Thomas Burgess
I can't get sharesmb=name= to workit worked in b130i'm not sure if it's broken in 131 or if my machine is being a pain. anyways, when i try to do this: zfs set sharesmb=name=wonslung tank/nas/Wonslung i get this: cannot set property for 'tank/nas/Wonslung': 'sharesmb' cannot be set to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Defragmentation - will it happen?

2010-01-23 Thread Thomas Burgess
The way i understand it, this requires bprewrite and it's being worked on. On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Colin Raven wrote: > Can anyone comment on the likelihood of zfs defrag becoming a reality some > day? If so, any approximation as to when? I realize this isn't exactly a > trivial endeavo

[zfs-discuss] question about which build to install

2010-01-21 Thread Thomas Burgess
I installed b130 on my server, and i'm being hit by this bug: http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=13540 Where i can't log into gnome. I've bee trying to deal with it hoping that i a workaround would show up.. if there IS a workaround, i'd love to have it...if not, i'm wondering: is

Re: [zfs-discuss] zones and other filesystems

2010-01-21 Thread Thomas Burgess
> > add net > set defrouter=192.168.1.1** > end > > > Thanks again > > I must be doing something wrong...i can access the zone on my network but i can't for the life of me get the zone to access the internet I'm googling like crazy but maybe someone here knows what i'm doing wrong. ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] zones and other filesystems

2010-01-21 Thread Thomas Burgess
ahh, On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jacob Ritorto wrote: > Thomas, >If you're trying to make user home directories on your local machine > in /home, you have to watch out because the initial Solaris config assumes > that you're in an enterprise environment and the convention is to have

Re: [zfs-discuss] zones and other filesystems

2010-01-21 Thread Thomas Burgess
hrm...that seemed to work...i'm so new to solarisit's SO different...what exactly did i just disable? Does that mount nfs shares or something? why should that prevent me from creating home directories? thanks 2010/1/21 Gaëtan Lehmann > > Le 21 janv. 10 à 14:14, Thomas

Re: [zfs-discuss] zones and other filesystems

2010-01-21 Thread Thomas Burgess
now i'm stuck again.sorry to clog the tubes with my nubishness. i can't seem to create users inside the zonei'm sure it's due to zfs privelages somewhere but i'm not exactly sure how to fix iti dont' mind if i need to manage the zfs filesystem outside of the zone, i'm just not sure WHE

Re: [zfs-discuss] zones and other filesystems

2010-01-21 Thread Thomas Burgess
> > the path of the root of your zone is not important for that feature. > > > \ > Ok, cool > > with zonecfg, you can add a configuration like this one to your zone: > > add fs > set dir=/some/path/Video > set special=/tank/nas/Video > set type=lofs > end > add fs > set dir=/some/path/JeffB > set

[zfs-discuss] zones and other filesystems

2010-01-21 Thread Thomas Burgess
I'm pretty new to opensolaris. I come from FreeBSD. Naturally, after using FreeBSD forr awhile i've been big on the use of FreeBSD jails so i just had to try zones. I've figured out how to get zones running but now i'm stuck and need help. Is there anything like "nullfs" in opensolaris... or m

Re: [zfs-discuss] can i make a COMSTAR zvol bigger?

2010-01-20 Thread Thomas Burgess
> > > > Yes you can. Size of the vol is a ZFS property. > > > yes, i knew this but i wasn't sure how to do the REST. =) > Set the volsize property to what you want then, then modify the > logical unit e.g. > > Usage: stmfadm modify-lu [OPTIONS] >OPTIONS: >-p, --lu-prop

[zfs-discuss] can i make a COMSTAR zvol bigger?

2010-01-20 Thread Thomas Burgess
I finally got iscsi working, and it's amazing...it took a minute for me to figure out...i didn't realize it required 2 toolsbut anwyays. my original zvol is too smalli created a 120 gb zvol for time machine but i really need more like 250 gb so this is a 2 part questions. First, can

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?

2010-01-18 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Phil Harman wrote: > YMMV. At a recent LOSUG meeting we were told of a case where rsync was > faster than an incremental zfs send/recv. But I think that was for a mail > server with many tiny files (i.e. changed blocks are very easy to find in > files with very fe

Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz2 import, some slices, some not

2010-01-17 Thread Thomas Burgess
> > I am in the middle of converting a FreeBSD > 8.0-Release system to OpenSolaris b130In > order to import my stuff, the only way i knew to make > it work (from testing in virtualbox) was to do > this:label a bunch of drives with an EFI > label by using the opensolaris live cd, then use > those d

Re: [zfs-discuss] Root Mirror - Permission Denied

2010-01-17 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Brian Fitzhugh wrote: > I have a system that I'm trying to bring up with a mirrored rpool. I'm > using DarkStar's ZFS Root Mirror blog post as a guide ( > http://darkstar-solaris.blogspot.com/2008/09/zfs-root-mirror.html). > > When I get to step 3 I execute: > pfe

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?

2010-01-17 Thread Thomas Burgess
> > > > What dou you use instead? > * * **tar cvf - /some/dir | (cd /some/other/dir; tar xf -) > > BTW: I recommend "star" and to use either the H=exustar or -dump option. > > Jörg > > i will have to check it out. I recently migrated to opensolaris from FreeBSD and i have a LOT to learn. I am r

[zfs-discuss] raidz2 import, some slices, some not

2010-01-17 Thread Thomas Burgess
I am in the middle of converting a FreeBSD 8.0-Release system to OpenSolaris b130 In order to import my stuff, the only way i knew to make it work (from testing in virtualbox) was to do this: label a bunch of drives with an EFI label by using the opensolaris live cd, then use those drives in Free

Re: [zfs-discuss] opensolaris fresh install lock up

2010-01-17 Thread Thomas Burgess
> Hmm, seems you're asking in the wrong forum. > Sounds more like a desktop or x-window problem > to me. Why do you think this is a zfs problem? > > > Hmm, in the build 130 annoucement you can find this: > ( http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=120631&tstart=0 ) > > > 13540 Xserver

[zfs-discuss] opensolaris fresh install lock up

2010-01-17 Thread Thomas Burgess
I just installed opensolaris build 130 which i downloaded from genunix. The install went fineand the first reboot after install seemed to work but when i powered down and rebooted fully, it locks up as soon as i log in. Gnome is still showing the icon it shows when stuff hasn't finished loadin

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?

2010-01-17 Thread Thomas Burgess
> > Cpio coes not > support sparse files and is unable to archive files > 8 GB. > > Jörg > > I found this out the hard way last time i used it. I was backing up all my data from one system to another using cpio and i had a bunch of movies over 8GB (720p and 1080p mkv files) none of them worked.

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?

2010-01-16 Thread Thomas Burgess
> > > > NO, zfs send is not a backup. > > From a backup, you could restore individual files. > > Jörg > > I disagree. It is a backup. It's just not "an enterprise backup solution" ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.open

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Cache + ZIL on single SSD

2010-01-10 Thread Thomas Burgess
> > Next to that I am reading all kind of performance benefits using seperate > devices > for the ZIL (write) and the Cache (read). I was wondering if I could > share a single SSD between both ZIL and Cache device? > > Or is this not recommended? > > > i asked something similar recently. The answe

Re: [zfs-discuss] need a few suggestions for a poor man's ZIL/SLOG device

2010-01-06 Thread Thomas Burgess
> meandering off topic here ... > > i use one of those 64G kingston jmicron/toshiba drives in my mac. > > The "stuttering" problems attributed to the older jmicron drives are > non-existent with this one in my experience. > > This is great news. I've read this but it's good to know that someone on

Re: [zfs-discuss] how do i prevent changing device names? is this even a problem in ZFS

2010-01-06 Thread Thomas Burgess
so you're saying that if i do something like fail a drive, then remove it, with my controller i'll have a crash more than likely? I can understand why sas might be better for some stuff but i thought sata was supposed to support hot swap as well.especially with the controller i chose... Don't

Re: [zfs-discuss] need a few suggestions for a poor man's ZIL/SLOG device

2010-01-05 Thread Thomas Burgess
I think the confusing part is that the 64gb version seems to use a different controller all together I couldn't find any SNV125-S2/40's in stock so i got 3 SNV125-S2/64's thinking it would be the same,m only bigger.looks like it was stupid on my part. now i understand why i got such a good dea

Re: [zfs-discuss] need a few suggestions for a poor man's ZIL/SLOG device

2010-01-05 Thread Thomas Burgess
The SNV125-S2/40GB is the "half an X25-M" drive which can be "often" > found as a bare OEM drive for about $85 w/ rebate. > > Kingston does sell rebranded Intel SLC drives as well, but under a > different model number: SNE-125S2/32 or SNE-125S2/64. I don't believe > the 64GB Kingston MLC (SNV-125

Re: [zfs-discuss] need a few suggestions for a poor man's ZIL/SLOG device

2010-01-04 Thread Thomas Burgess
> I disagree that those drives are "good enough". That particular drive > uses the dreaded JMicron controller - which has a really bad > reputation. And a poor reputation that it *earned* and deserves. > Even though these drives use a newer revision of the original JMicron > part (that basically

Re: [zfs-discuss] need a few suggestions for a poor man's ZIL/SLOG device

2010-01-04 Thread Thomas Burgess
so are you saying that the "degrading problem" with ssd's can be fixed completely with such a utility? Don't they STILL wear out and become more or less broken after heavy use On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Chris Du wrote: > They are fast when they are new. Once all the blocks are written, >

Re: [zfs-discuss] need a few suggestions for a poor man's ZIL/SLOG device

2010-01-04 Thread Thomas Burgess
I'm PRETTY sure the kingston drives i ordered are as good/better i just didnt' know that they weren't "good enough" Basically, if i have 3 raidz2 groups or 4 raidz groups with a total of 20 7200 RPM drives is using a cheaper MLC drive going to make things WORSE? thanks for the idea though, i may

Re: [zfs-discuss] need a few suggestions for a poor man's ZIL/SLOG device

2010-01-04 Thread Thomas Burgess
slightly outside of my price range. I'll either do without or wait till they drop in priceis there a "second best" option or is this pretty much it? On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Chris Du wrote: > You need SLC SSD for ZIL. The only SLC SSD I'd recommend is Intel X25-E. > Others are eithe

[zfs-discuss] need a few suggestions for a poor man's ZIL/SLOG device

2010-01-04 Thread Thomas Burgess
I'm not 100% sure i'm going to need a separate SSD for my ZIL but if i did want to look for one, i was wondering if anyone could suggest/recommend a few budget options. My current hardware is something like this: intel core2quad 9550 8 gb ddr2 800 unbuffered ECC 3 AOC-SAT2-MV8 controllers 21 720

Re: [zfs-discuss] how do i prevent changing device names? is this even a problem in ZFS

2010-01-04 Thread Thomas Burgess
It's too late. I ordered 3 AOC-SAT2-MV8 cards. when you say "better hot plug support" what exactly does that mean. It was my understanding that the AOC-SAT2-MV8 was the same (or similar) controller which sun used in the x4500 i know THAT has hotplug support (right?!?!) the case i used has 20 h

Re: [zfs-discuss] $100 SSD = >5x faster dedupe

2010-01-03 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Michael Herf wrote: > I've written about my slow-to-dedupe RAIDZ. > > After a week of.waitingI finally bought a little $100 30G OCZ > Vertex and plugged it in as a cache. > > After <2 hours of warmup, my zfs send/receive rate on the pool is > >16MB/sec (re

Re: [zfs-discuss] how do i prevent changing device names? is this even a problem in ZFS

2010-01-02 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, Tim Cook wrote: > >> >> Nope, on import it will scan all the disks for ZFS pools. It doesn't care >> about the physical device names changing. >> > > It does seem to care after the pool h

[zfs-discuss] how do i prevent changing device names? is this even a problem in ZFS

2010-01-02 Thread Thomas Burgess
I'm moving from FreeBSD to OpenSolaris in the next week or so (when the rest of my upgrade purchase arrives) One thing i'm curious about is whether or not ZFS cares about changing device names. In FreeBSD I always used glabel to prevent this issue. Does solaris have something similar? Is it eve

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-31 Thread Thomas Burgess
> > For the OS, I'd drop the adapter/compact-flash combo and use the > "stripped down" Kingston version of the Intel x25m MLC SSD. If you're > not familiar with it, the basic scoup is that this drive contains half > the flash memory (40Gb) *and* half the controller channels (5 versus > 10) of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: > >> >> Just curious, but in your "ideal" situation, is it considered best to use >> 1 controller for each vdev or user

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: > >> >> and, onboard with 6 sata portsso what would be the best method of >> connecting the drives if i go with 4 raidz vdev

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
vdevs? On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Henrik Johansson wrote: > Hello, > > On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > I'm about to build a ZFS based NAS and i'd like some suggestions about how > to set up my drives. > > The case i'm using holds

[zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
I'm about to build a ZFS based NAS and i'd like some suggestions about how to set up my drives. The case i'm using holds 20 hot swap drives, so i plan to use either 4 vdevs with 5 drives or 5 vdevs with 4 drives each (and a hot spare inside the machine) The motherboard i'm getting has 4 pci-x sl

Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving a pool from FreeBSD 8.0 to opensolaris

2009-12-27 Thread Thomas Burgess
This isn't an option for me. The current machine is going to be totally upgraded, New motherboard, new ram (ecc) new controller cards and 9 new hard drives. Current pool is 3 raidz1 vdevs with 4 drives each (all 1 tb) It's about 65% full. If i have to use some other filesystem that is an opt

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to destroy your system in funny way with ZFS

2009-12-27 Thread Thomas Burgess
you should be able to boot with the live cd then import the pool i would think... On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > Uh, but why system allowed that if it's not running? And how to revert it > as I can't boot even to single user mode? Is there a way to do that with > Live CD

Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving a pool from FreeBSD 8.0 to opensolaris

2009-12-24 Thread Thomas Burgess
guys! it's alll good. We don't need to argue about whether or not EFI is or isn't platform independentwhat would be nice, is if someone can explain the best way to create a zpool in freebsd that i can import into solaris so i can move my data. I've still got a week or two before i have t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving a pool from FreeBSD 8.0 to opensolaris

2009-12-23 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Ian Collins wrote: > >> > > An EFI label isn't "OS specific formatting"! > > > at the risk of sounding really stupidis an EFI label the same as using guid partions? I think i remember reading about setting GUID partioned disks in FreeBSD. If so, i could try

[zfs-discuss] what is the best way to hook up my drives

2009-12-23 Thread Thomas Burgess
I am planning on building an opensolaris server to replace my NAS. My case has room for 20 hotswap sata drives and 1 or 2 internal drives. I was planning on going with 5 raidz vdevs each with 4 drives, and maybe a hot spare inside the case in one of the extra slots. I am going to use 2 Supermicr

Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving a pool from FreeBSD 8.0 to opensolaris

2009-12-23 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Ian Collins wrote: > > > Is the pool on slices or whole drives? If the latter, you should be able > to import the pool (unless BSD introduces any incompatibilities). It's on whole disks but if i remember right those disks are tied to the highpoint raid card.

[zfs-discuss] Moving a pool from FreeBSD 8.0 to opensolaris

2009-12-23 Thread Thomas Burgess
I was wondering what the best method of moving a pool from FreeBSD 8.0 to OpenSolaris is. When i originally built my system, it was using hardware which wouldn't work in opensolairs, but i'm about to do an upgrade so i should be able to use Opensolaris when i'm done. My current system uses a High

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10 pre-fetch bug fix on the way

2009-12-16 Thread Thomas Burgess
this is great, i remember reading about this. Wow, it sure did take awhile huh? Glad they finally got it working for you. What exactly caused this bug? If i remember right it wasn't just related to solaris. I remember seeing the same behavior in FreeBSD. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Bob

Re: [zfs-discuss] dedup video

2009-10-13 Thread Thomas Burgess
it seems to be 33:32ish when they start talking about dedup On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Paul Archer wrote: > Someone posted this link: https://slx.sun.com/1179275620 for a video on > ZFS deduplication. But the site isn't responding (which is typical of Sun, > since I've been dealing with t

Re: [zfs-discuss] poor man's Drobo on FreeNAS

2009-09-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
just remove the s in https:// and you can read it On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Scott Meilicke < scott.meili...@craneaerospace.com> wrote: > Requires a login... > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-d

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:48 AM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > On Wed, September 30, 2009 07:14, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > For the money, it's a much better option. you'll be able to afford many > > more drives. In my opinion, for a home system, the more you can

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:28 AM, wrote: > On Sep 29, 2009, at 2:41 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 06:04:01PM -0400, Thomas Burgess wrote: >> >>> personally i like this case: >>> >>> >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-29 Thread Thomas Burgess
itl wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 06:04:01PM -0400, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > personally i like this case: > > > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219021 > > > > it's got 20 hot swap bays, and it's surprisingly well

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-28 Thread Thomas Burgess
n Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Michael Shadle wrote: > rackmount chassis aren't usually designed with acoustics in mind :) > > however i might be getting my closet fitted so i can put half a rack > in. might switch up my configuration to rack stuff soon. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-28 Thread Thomas Burgess
personally i like this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219021 it's got 20 hot swap bays, and it's surprisingly well built. For the money, it's an amazing deal. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org htt

Re: [zfs-discuss] deduplication

2009-09-17 Thread Thomas Burgess
I think you're right, and i also think we'll still see a new post asking about it once or twice a week. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Cyril Plisko wrote: > 2009/9/17 Brandon High : > > 2009/9/11 "C. Bergström" : > >> Can we make a FAQ on this somewhere? > >> > >> 1) There is some legal bla bla

Re: [zfs-discuss] Expanding a raidz pool?

2009-09-16 Thread Thomas Burgess
ZFS is worth putting a little thought into your system when you START it. If you want to be able easily add a couple disks at a time, just use mirrors, I user raidz vdevs of 4 and when i need to expand i have 2 options. I add a new raidz vdev of 4 disks OR i replace all 4 disks in one vdev with l

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ versus mirrroed

2009-09-16 Thread Thomas Burgess
hrm, i always thought raidz took longerlearn something every day =) On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > On Sep 16, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > Mirrors are much quicker to replace if one DOES fail though...so i would >> think that bad stu

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ versus mirrroed

2009-09-16 Thread Thomas Burgess
Mirrors are much quicker to replace if one DOES fail though...so i would think that bad stuff could happen with EITHER solutionIf you buy a bunch of hard drives for a raidz and they are all from the same batch they might all fail around the same time...what if you have a raidz2 group and 2 driv

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ versus mirrroed

2009-09-16 Thread Thomas Burgess
At the end of the day, it TOTALLY depends on your needs. raidz may be the best bet for you if you simply do not need the speed of mirrors, and as another user mentioned, it DOES offer better fault tollerence. Figure out what your needs are for your workload THEN ask. These type of loaded questio

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ versus mirrroed

2009-09-16 Thread Thomas Burgess
it should be faster. It really depends on what you are using it for though, I've been using raidz for my system and i'm very happy with it. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:55 AM, wrote: > Hi. If I am using slightly more reliable SAS drives versus SATA, SSDs for > both L2Arc and ZIL and lots of RAM,

Re: [zfs-discuss] NFS export issue

2009-09-12 Thread Thomas Burgess
This is because with ZFS the directories aren't REALLY there. You need to either use NFSv4 or you need to export each ZFS filesystem independently On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Thomas Uebermeier wrote: > Hello, > > I have a ZFS filesystem structure, which is basically like this: > > /foo >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Wikipedia on ZFS

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Burgess
i don't think it's the same at all. I think it's about the same as filling a radiator in a car with oatmeal to make it stop leaking. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Sep 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: &g

Re: [zfs-discuss] Wikipedia on ZFS

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Burgess
yes, but it stripes across the vdevs, and when it needs to read data back, it will absolutely be limited. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Mario Goebbels wrote: > if you add a raidz group to a group of 3 mirrors, the entire pool slows >> down to the speed of the raidz. >> > > That's not true

Re: [zfs-discuss] Wikipedia on ZFS

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Burgess
you can't without forcing...and even if you do, it's not a good idea. if you do your pool will have the lowest redundancy/speed of the worst one... sooo if you add a single drive to a raidz vdev, your entire pool loses it's redundancy, if you add a single drive to a mirror, likewise if you add

Re: [zfs-discuss] Read about ZFS backup - Still confused

2009-09-04 Thread Thomas Burgess
Let me explain what i have and you decide if it's what you're looking for. I run a home NAS based on ZFS (due to hardware issues i am using FreeBSD 7.2 as my os but all the data is on ZFS) This system has multiple uses. I have about 10 users and 4 HTPC's connected via gigabit. I have ZFS filesyst

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Thomas Burgess
I've been running ZFS under FreeBSD which is experimental, and i've had nothing but great luckso i guess it depeneds on a number of things. I went with FreeBSD because the hardware i had wasn't supported in solarisi expected problems but honestly, it's been rock solidit's survived all

Re: [zfs-discuss] Not sure how to do this in zfs

2009-08-24 Thread Thomas Burgess
gt; export1/dfazi primarycache alldefault > export1/dfazi secondarycachealldefault > export1/dfazi usedbysnapshots 7.48M - > export1/dfazi usedbydataset 137G - > export1/dfazi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Not sure how to do this in zfs

2009-08-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
if you are talking about NFS, this is due to how ZFS file systems work. When you share a ZFS filesystem via NFS it will share everything IN that filesystem but if you have 2 filesystems, it will only share that second fs's mount point. what i mean is, if you have something like pool/filesystem an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Failure of Quicktime *.mov files after move to zfs disk

2009-08-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
i had something similar happen to me when i switched to ZFS but it turned out to be an error with cpio and the mkv format...i'm not sure exactly why but whenever i tried to backup mkv files with cpio onto ZFS it would give me corrupted files. On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:

Re: [zfs-discuss] What's eating my disk space? Missing snapshots?

2009-08-18 Thread Thomas Burgess
If you understand how copy on write works and how snapshots work then the concept of the extra space should make perfect since. If you want a mathmatic formula for how to figure it out i would have to say that it would be based on how DIFFERENT the data is between snapshots AND how MUCH data it is

Re: [zfs-discuss] What's eating my disk space? Missing snapshots?

2009-08-18 Thread Thomas Burgess
dude, i just explained it =) ok...let me see if i can do better... if you have a file that's 1 gb , in zfs you have those blocks added. on a normal filesystem when you edit the file or add to it, it will erase the old file and add a new one over it (more or less). on zfs, you have the blocks ad

Re: [zfs-discuss] What's eating my disk space? Missing snapshots?

2009-08-18 Thread Thomas Burgess
it's pretty simple, if i understand it correctly. When you add some blocks to zfs... xxx then take a snapshot (snapshot of x) the disk has the space of the x's and the snapshot does't take up any space yet then you add more to the drive and maybe take another snapshot xx

Re: [zfs-discuss] *Almost* empty ZFS filesystem - 14GB?

2009-08-16 Thread Thomas Burgess
i'm not sure if it applies to your situation, but when i FIRST starting using ZFS on freebsd, i noticed a similar error, where a filesystem would be totally empty and still show 14 GB space...it's weird but i remember this because i had quotas set (freebsd didn't have refquotas at the time). We ha

Re: [zfs-discuss] LZO versus LZJB

2009-08-14 Thread Thomas Burgess
Great read. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Denis Ahrens wrote: > Hi > > Some developers here said a long time ago that someone should show > the code for LZO compression support for ZFS before talking about the > next step. I made that code with a friend and we also made a little > benchmark to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Adding a single disk to RAIDZ pool

2009-08-11 Thread Thomas Burgess
with small numbers of disks, use mirrored vdevs. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 05:16:27PM -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > > > >i think you can add different types of vdevs

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Burgess
the benefits of ZFS far > outweigh the limitations" > > Lets not forget: UFS/xVFS SVM/xVM and the whole RAID industry, have many > more years of development and use. ZFS is still the new kid on the block, he > might not be as good as some of the old boys in the playground, but he is &

Re: [zfs-discuss] Adding a single disk to RAIDZ pool

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Burgess
i think you can add different types of vdevs but doesn't it make you use -f? i thought it was "not a good idea" On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > unfortunately

Re: [zfs-discuss] Adding a single disk to RAIDZ pool

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Burgess
unfortunately this is not possible right now. The only way to expand raidz is to add another raidz vdev or replace all the disks with larger ones... On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Nandini Mocherla wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a RAIDZ pool configured on my system with 3 disks . Now I would >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Burgess
Why not just do simple mirrored vdevs? or use cheaper 1tb drives for the second vdev? I don't knowit's up to you...To me the benefits of ZFS far outweigh the limitations. Also, in my opinion, when you are expanding your storage, it's a good idea to add it in chunks like this...adding a 4 drive

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-09 Thread Thomas Burgess
While it is true that you can not add a single device to a raidz vdev, you can easily add more vdevs, and this is by far the best way to grow because each vdev adds much speed to the array. Raidz is more advanced than raid5, the fact that your card doesn't do the raid calculations is not a limitat

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