date:20010311


The catalyst 6000 series supports upto 130 Gb ports. And the backplane
capacity is 32 gbps.

So if i use all the 130 gigabit ports , does it mean that i am
overutilizing.

I cant relate the sizing of the ports to the switch backplane capacity.

Thanks in advance for any clarifications recvd.

Gayathri


Whether or not any switch/relay/router etc. is oversubscribed or is 
blocking or nonblocking is separate from whether any of these 
characteristics will be a problem.  Pure capacity is something one 
measures in a test lab. A nonblocking switch is defined to be one in 
which when all input ports simultaneously transmit to a set of output 
ports, and there are 1:1 relationships between input and output 
ports, there will be no loss caused by the switching fabric.

Scenario 1:
   A switch has 5 input ports and 5 output ports. Each port is 100 
Mbps. The fabric is 10 Gbps.
   Output ports 1 and 2 have application servers. Port 3 has DNS, port 
4 has DHCP, and port 5 connects to a router.  All input ports have 
client workstations.  Most work is between clients and one of the 
local servers.

   Does oversubscription exist here? If so, where? Is it a problem?

   Also consider that the nature of the applications is that there is 
a brief exchange between the client and server, followed by lengthy 
and variable work at the client. Think of a graphics art shop, where 
the artists download graphics files and then work on them.

Scenario 2:

   A switch has 20 user ports (10 Mbps) and one 100 Mbps uplink port. 
The fabric is 1 Gbps. The application is highly interactive, with the 
user either examining a response or generating a query; the only 
possible simultaneous traffic are ACKs for previously sent data.  Two 
of the user ports connect to local printers, but all other work must 
go over the uplink.

   Does oversubscription existg here? If so, where? Is it a problem?

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Re: **Shared RAM and Backplane


Hi

Is shared memory on the 3500XL switches

(*snip from cisco.com)
Shared-Data Buffer
A key attribute of the Catalyst 3500 XL architecture is its shared-data
buffer, which employs 4-MB of DRAM in its initial deployment. The
shared-buffer architecture optimizes buffer utilization through dynamic
allocation across all ports and by avoiding packet duplication for
multicast or broadcast traffic.
(*end of snip)

same as a backplane on 6000 series switches? (eg 32gb)

are they the same idea, but on different scales?

thanks
Deepak



In most engineering discussions, the internal mechanisms that a 
switch uses to interconnect its input and output ports is called a 
fabric.

"Backplane" doesn't really say anything about the internal 
organization of that fabric.  It primarily refers to the way in which 
cards mechanically plug into slots.  Indeed, "midplanes," where cards 
plug into a central (often passive) interconnect in the center of the 
chassis, with "front cards" and "back cards," is increasingly common 
in high-end devices. In Cisco, I first saw midplanes in the former 
Stratacom devices.

The three major fabric models are shared bus, shared memory, and crossbar.

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Re: a strange problem in bgp and ospf environment


Hi,there:

I'm studying the section of neighbor doorback in Halabi's book,
But unfortunately, I never get pass.

Please watch the topology attached in this mail, The 3640-1,2610,
2501-2 router run bgp protocol,but ospf run between 3640-1 and
3640-2.


The question is if I use clear ip bgp * command, the ospf route
192.68.5.0  255.255.255.0 192.68.6.2 will appear in 3640-1's routing
table,but after BGP peer established,this route was replaced with
BGP route 192.68.5.0 255.255.255.0 172.16.20.2.

I know the reason is the distance,but the fact is I have set the
network 192.68.5.0 backdoor command in 3640-1!
the BGP route 192.68.5.0 255.255.255.0 172.16.20.2's distance should
change from 20 to 200 and that ospf's route should stay in 3640-1's
routing table,it cann't be replaced by BGP's route again! SO,I cann't
understand completely.

Again, don't worry too much about the more obscure commands at first,
concentrate on understanding what happens, and then study one
additional command at a time.  Before adding additional commands,
have a clear idea:

   what is your routing policy?
   how do you want the added command to change the routing policy?

Halabi (1st ed -- I have 2nd ed on order) doesn't present things in
this manner, I agree. But in many respects, his Parts 3 and 4 should
be studied before Part 2.  Learn policy before configuration.

So what are you trying to do with the backdoor command? I say this,
in part, because I've never found a real-world case where I needed
it.   There are some examples in documentation, I will admit.
Looking at the Halabi examples, I think it's cleaner to use a
route-map to redistribute the IGP route into BGP, setting a
local-preference to make it preferred.  Local preference is BGP
standard, while backdoor is not.


Another question:
When I use clear ip bgp * command, then sh ip route ospf, I can
find the route 192.68.5.0  255.255.255.0 192.68.6.2 appeared,but the BGP
esatblished,the route then disappeared from the output of the sh ip
route ospf.
What's happen ?

Without further information, I would think that the potential route
announced by BGP is being preferred, so the native OSPF route is
being suppressed.



Thank in advance...


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RE: help with configuring TACACS+ server and NAS

2001-03-11 Thread Rizzo Damian


The only way I know of to give seperate users "enable" mode passwords is by
using the "enable secret level 1-15" command, usually used in conjunction
with the "privilege exec" command.





-Original Message-
From: Sean Young
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/11/01 8:58 AM
Subject: help with configuring TACACS+ server and NAS

Hi everyone,

I need help in configuring both the TACACS+ server and the Network
Access Server (NAS).  I am currently running the TACACS+ server on
Linux RedHat 7 with kernel 2.4.2.  I am running the NAS on a cisco 2610
router with IOS 12.0.15 Enterprise plus with ipsec capability.  I am
running
TACACS server version tac_plus-F4.0.3.alpha-7.  Here is the
configuration
of the tacacs configuration file:

key  =   "helpme"

user =   xyz {
 member = admin
 login = des 7bYbKxc
 cmd = show { permit .* }
 cmd = disconnect { permit .* }
 }
user =   abc{
 member = admin
 login = des YZdX64CcM
 cmd = show { permit .* }
 cmd = disconnect { permit .* }
 }
user =  def   {
 service = exec {
 default attribute = permit
}
 member = normal
 login = des 3zz3A/3Nc7RCU
expires = "Mar 08 2002"
cmd = where { permit .* }
}
group = admin {
 default service = permit
 service = exec {
 priv-lvl = 15
   }
}
group =  normal{
}
user  =  $enab15$  {
 login = cleartext "Ineedhelp"
 }

Here is the what I configure on the NAS:

aaa new-model
aaa authentication login usetacacs tacacs+ local enable
aaa authentication login usenone none
aaa authorization commands 1 usetacacs1 tacacs+
enable secret 5 $1gGfwBcXfakuNKYSV0

tacacs-server host 172.16.1.240
tacacs-server key helpme

line vty 0 4
authorization commands 1 usetacacs1
login authentication usetacacs


I would like to be able to make both users abc and xyz to be
able to go into the privilege mode (enable) each with their
own password.  Right now, even though abc and xyz can
access the NAS, they have to share the enable secret
password which is something I like to avoid.  How can I
make this happen?  What am I doing wrong here?  Please
help... I am desperate...
Many thanks.

Harry

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Re: Have a problem


It looks like you might have changed the console port baud rate.  At least I
think that's possible with the config register.  I just woke up and I'm a
little sluggish.  g

Anyway, try changing the connection speed in your terminal software to other
settings to see if something else works.

Good luck!

John

  I was trying to reset a password on router and i guess I fat fingered the
  entry and mistyped the entry for the configuration register. Now all i
get
  is a bunch of " CCC's" on boot up. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
  
  
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Re: Have a problem

2001-03-11 Thread The.Rock

I was trying to do the password recovery where you change the config
register. I figure i typed something in wrong. You think that replacing the
boot chips would work? I had planned on doing this anyway. Especially if
this fixes the problem

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It looks like you might have changed the console port baud rate. At least
I
think that's possible with the config register. I just woke up and I'm a
little sluggish. g

Anyway, try changing the connection speed in your terminal software to
other
settings to see if something else works.

Good luck!

John

I was trying to reset a password on router and i guess I fat fingered
the
entry and mistyped the entry for the configuration register. Now all i
get
is a bunch of " CCC's" on boot up. Does anyone know how I can fix this?

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Re: help with configuring TACACS+ server and NAS

2001-03-11 Thread Kenneth


I'm not sure how TACACS+ is configured but I'm using FUNK's Radius and all I
had to do is do a return Attribute with "priv-lvl = 15"...

Depending on the user, if the user has this attribute set, then he'll
automatically be brought to level 15 without doing "enable"

Hope this helps.

Check this link out:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/480/PRIV.html


"Sean Young" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi everyone,

 I need help in configuring both the TACACS+ server and the Network
 Access Server (NAS).  I am currently running the TACACS+ server on
 Linux RedHat 7 with kernel 2.4.2.  I am running the NAS on a cisco 2610
 router with IOS 12.0.15 Enterprise plus with ipsec capability.  I am
running
 TACACS server version tac_plus-F4.0.3.alpha-7.  Here is the configuration
 of the tacacs configuration file:

 key  =   "helpme"

 user =   xyz {
  member = admin
  login = des 7bYbKxc
  cmd = show { permit .* }
  cmd = disconnect { permit .* }
  }
 user =   abc{
  member = admin
  login = des YZdX64CcM
  cmd = show { permit .* }
  cmd = disconnect { permit .* }
  }
 user =  def   {
  service = exec {
  default attribute = permit
 }
  member = normal
  login = des 3zz3A/3Nc7RCU
 expires = "Mar 08 2002"
 cmd = where { permit .* }
 }
 group = admin {
  default service = permit
  service = exec {
  priv-lvl = 15
}
 }
 group =  normal{
 }
 user  =  $enab15$  {
  login = cleartext "Ineedhelp"
  }

 Here is the what I configure on the NAS:

 aaa new-model
 aaa authentication login usetacacs tacacs+ local enable
 aaa authentication login usenone none
 aaa authorization commands 1 usetacacs1 tacacs+
 enable secret 5 $1gGfwBcXfakuNKYSV0

 tacacs-server host 172.16.1.240
 tacacs-server key helpme

 line vty 0 4
 authorization commands 1 usetacacs1
 login authentication usetacacs


 I would like to be able to make both users abc and xyz to be
 able to go into the privilege mode (enable) each with their
 own password.  Right now, even though abc and xyz can
 access the NAS, they have to share the enable secret
 password which is something I like to avoid.  How can I
 make this happen?  What am I doing wrong here?  Please
 help... I am desperate...
 Many thanks.

 Harry

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RIP I IGRP load balancing, in the lab ?

2001-03-11 Thread Phil Barker


Hi Group,
  I have a problem regarding load balancing
distance vector protocols namely RIP I and IGRP.

I have 2x2500 routers connected via their serial
interfaces respectively, s0-s0  S1-S1. I have
another router hanging off one of these Ethernet ports
just to add some dimension to the network.

It makes no difference wether or not I am in
fast-switching mode or process-switching mode (no ip
route-cache) the same debug output is generated for a
1000 ip ping test. Roughly speaking the load balancing
appears as 50 ish packets through S0 and then 50 ish
through S1. This is NOT what I expected !!!

I thought that in process-switch mode the packets
would alternate (S0,S1,S0,S1) etc.
And that in fast switching mode only one of the serial
interfaces would be utilised since per destination
load balancing would take place.

So, in a nutshell, the debug output is the same when
using RIP or IGRP also wether process-switched or
fast-switched.

I've included config's and debug output.

I'm wondering though if this is an architectural issue
with the 2500 routers having a flat memory space ???

Any thoughts welcome,

Regards,

Phil


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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


on the same topic - almost.

is the new Channel Partner Program that begins this July.

Being "only" a Premier Partner I guess I don't get the whole story as it
relates to Silver and Gold Partners.

However, our local paper ran a large article on the cutbacks at Cisco
(Ottawa/Kanata - Silicon North) and that article also said that Cisco is
lessening the amount of CCIEs required.

It used to be one CCIE for every $10m of product and now it will be one CCIE
for $40m of product.

So, that means that companies won't need as many CCIEs as before.  Does this
shrink the market for CCIEs?  Will this affect whether you want/need to be a
CCIE?   Will the market now have a glut of CCIEs since companies don't need
as many any more.

What to do think??

Kevin Wigle

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RE: off-topic: anyone alarmed?

2001-03-11 Thread Steven Dangerfield


My 2p OK,

Why should Cisco determine how many CCIE's are "required" ?
If they mean for themselves, then fine. If they are cutting back on staff and 
don't need as many CCIEs then thats their call. But if they are looking to 
produce the same volume of kit, then there will be the same volume of kit in 
the industry, and hence the same number of people to design, install, support 
etc...

Steve

= Original Message From "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
on the same topic - almost.

is the new Channel Partner Program that begins this July.

Being "only" a Premier Partner I guess I don't get the whole story as it
relates to Silver and Gold Partners.

However, our local paper ran a large article on the cutbacks at Cisco
(Ottawa/Kanata - Silicon North) and that article also said that Cisco is
lessening the amount of CCIEs required.

It used to be one CCIE for every $10m of product and now it will be one CCIE
for $40m of product.

So, that means that companies won't need as many CCIEs as before.  Does this
shrink the market for CCIEs?  Will this affect whether you want/need to be a
CCIE?   Will the market now have a glut of CCIEs since companies don't need
as many any more.

What to do think??

Kevin Wigle

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RE: ccnp guide errors

2001-03-11 Thread Brian


I was just reading reviews on Amazon.

Bri

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, David A. Lauer wrote:


 Where did you find the reviews of these books?

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 Subject: ccnp guide errors



 I recently bought the Osborne version of the CCNP routing study guide.
 After catching a few errors in the first few chapters, I went online to
 look at reviews.  It seems many others have noticed this also.  More
 surprising, as I read the reviews for the other versions, including
 CiscoPress, ExamCram, and Todd Lammle, this seems to apply to all of them.
 What the hell is someone supposed to do to fill in the areas they are not
 familiar with?  I am curious if you have an opinion as to which of these
 guides is the most error free??

   Brian

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OT: Sundays funnies

2001-03-11 Thread Natasha


01)
On the first day of college, the Dean addressed the students,
 pointing out some of the rules. "The female dormitory will be out-of-
 bounds for all male students, and the male dormitory to the female
 students. Anybody caught breaking this rule will be fined $20 the
 first time. Anybody caught breaking this rule the second time will be
 fined $60.  Being caught a third time will incur a hefty fine of
 $180. Are there any questions?"
 
 At this point, a male student in the crowd inquired, "How much for a
 season pass?"


02)
A young couple, just married, were in their honeymoon suite on their
wedding
night. As they were undressing for bed, the husband who was a big burly
man
tossed his pants to his bride and said, "Here, put these on."


She put them on and the waist was twice the size of her body. "I can't
wear
your pants," she said.


"That's right," said the husband, "and don't you ever forget it. I'm the
man
and I wear the pants in this family."


With that she flipped him her panties and said, "Try these on." He tried
them on and found he could only get them on as far as his kneecaps.


"Heck," he said, "I can't get into your panties!"


She replied, "That's right, and that's the way its going to be until
your
attitude changes!"


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Re: Have a problem

2001-03-11 Thread Groupstudy

Go to CCO and get the password recovery procedures for your model.  Make
sure your configuration-register is set to 0x2102.

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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Have a problem

 I was trying to do the password recovery where you change the  config
 register. I figure i typed something in wrong. You think that replacing
the
 boot chips would work? I had planned on doing this anyway. Especially if
 this fixes the problem

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 28995509.984329759512.JavaMail.imail@slippery">news:28995509.984329759512.JavaMail.imail@slippery...
  It looks like you might have changed the console port baud rate.  At
least
 I
  think that's possible with the config register.  I just woke up and I'm
a
  little sluggish.  g

  Anyway, try changing the connection speed in your terminal software to
 other
  settings to see if something else works.

  Good luck!

  John

I was trying to reset a password on router and i guess I fat fingered
 the
entry and mistyped the entry for the configuration register. Now all
i
  get
is a bunch of " CCC's" on boot up. Does anyone know how I can fix
this?

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Re: Have a problem

Why go through all that trouble? It appears to be a console baud rate
problem. Check this page for more info:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/l3sw/8540/cnfg_gd/ccfg8540.htm

Watch the line wrap. It appears that you can use the configuration register
to set the console baud rate to 9600, 4800, 2400, or 1200. Try those
settings on your terminal software before you go changing boot roms. Unless
you really want to change your boot roms, that is. g

HTH,
John

I was trying to do the password recovery where you change the config
register. I figure i typed something in wrong. You think that replacing
the
boot chips would work? I had planned on doing this anyway. Especially if
this fixes the problem

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It looks like you might have changed the console port baud rate. At
least
I
think that's possible with the config register. I just woke up and I'm
a
little sluggish. g

Anyway, try changing the connection speed in your terminal software to
other
settings to see if something else works.

Good luck!

John

I was trying to reset a password on router and i guess I fat
fingered
the
entry and mistyped the entry for the configuration register. Now all
i
get
is a bunch of " CCC's" on boot up. Does anyone know how I can fix
this?

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OT: Re: Radiius with Windows2000

2001-03-11 Thread John Hardman


Hi

Yes I have had both the NT 4 MCIS version and the Win2K version of MS radius
working on Cisco gear. Specifically I had it doing simple authentication for
a 3005 VPN box and a 3810 with PPPoA DSL customers. I have had no problems.

I suggest you call TAC, maybe you have a buggy IOS version.

HTH
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 Has anyone got any Cisco products to run with the Windows2000 Radius? I
was
 curios as we are trying to get the Cisco 5001 VPN to work with Win2K
radius
 but have not been successful. It does work with funk radius, however I
don't
 want to have to buy a third party product when windows has it built in. We
 did have it working at one time, but when we upgraded the IOS on the VPN
box
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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


well, I don't know how much you know about the Cisco Channel/Partner system
but there are requirements at all partner levels.

A company needs to field "x" amount of certified people to maintain their
status.

Different levels of partners get different discounts on product, access to
training, access to marketing funds and a whole slew of other benefits.

Lowering this requirement actually helps companies.

But if company XYZ needed to have 4 CCIEs on staff to maintain an official
partnership with Cisco, but now only needs one - do you thing that company
XYZ will still hire 4 CCIEs?

Maybe a bunch of CCNPs/CCDPs - who get paid less - would be considered all
that company needs.

Which is where my question was going.  Will the market for CCIEs be somewhat
flooded as now there is 4 times the required among of them out there?

When it comes to the question of "why should Cisco determine how many CCIE's
are required" - well, it's their game and they get to call the rules.  If
you agree - fine, if not fine too but you don't get to be a member.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
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Subject: RE: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


 My 2p OK,

 Why should Cisco determine how many CCIE's are "required" ?
 If they mean for themselves, then fine. If they are cutting back on staff
and
 don't need as many CCIEs then thats their call. But if they are looking to
 produce the same volume of kit, then there will be the same volume of kit
in
 the industry, and hence the same number of people to design, install,
support
 etc...

 Steve

 = Original Message From "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=
 on the same topic - almost.
 
 is the new Channel Partner Program that begins this July.
 
 Being "only" a Premier Partner I guess I don't get the whole story as it
 relates to Silver and Gold Partners.
 
 However, our local paper ran a large article on the cutbacks at Cisco
 (Ottawa/Kanata - Silicon North) and that article also said that Cisco is
 lessening the amount of CCIEs required.
 
 It used to be one CCIE for every $10m of product and now it will be one
CCIE
 for $40m of product.
 
 So, that means that companies won't need as many CCIEs as before.  Does
this
 shrink the market for CCIEs?  Will this affect whether you want/need to
be a
 CCIE?   Will the market now have a glut of CCIEs since companies don't
need
 as many any more.
 
 What to do think??
 
 Kevin Wigle
 
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RE: Have a problem

2001-03-11 Thread Chris Supino

Have you tried just resetting the config reg back to the proper setting?
This information is on CCO.

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I was trying to do the password recovery where you change the  config
register. I figure i typed something in wrong. You think that replacing the
boot chips would work? I had planned on doing this anyway. Especially if
this fixes the problem

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 It looks like you might have changed the console port baud rate.  At least
I
 think that's possible with the config register.  I just woke up and I'm a
 little sluggish.  g

 Anyway, try changing the connection speed in your terminal software to
other
 settings to see if something else works.

 Good luck!

 John

   I was trying to reset a password on router and i guess I fat fingered
the
   entry and mistyped the entry for the configuration register. Now all i
 get
   is a bunch of " CCC's" on boot up. Does anyone know how I can fix this?

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CID...COLTS

2001-03-11 Thread dshepp806


Can someone identify the specific Colt Exam that's related to the CID
test?

Thanks in advance...


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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


just a correction, it wasn't a newspaper but an article on ZDNet:

http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2693233-1,00.html

which in part states:

Quote

Not to be left out, Cisco Systems is reworking its partner program so that
all partners are required to specialize. The company also will require
customer-satisfaction ratings for its partners, a step taken by Microsoft
earlier this year for its top-tier Gold partners.

In return, Cisco will share its best practices and tools with its partners
and drop the CCIE requirements from one per $10 million sales to one per $40
million in sales. That will push CCIEs into a project management role, and
put more responsibility on the shoulders of associate, professional and
expert certified Cisco partners.

Unquote.

Kevin Wigle

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CCIE Written Question

2001-03-11 Thread Paul M. Immo


Quick quesion for those who have taken the CCIE
Written

Can you go back after answering a question?

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CCIE Written Question

2001-03-11 Thread Paul M. Immo


Quick quesion for those who have taken the CCIE
Written

Can you go back after answering a question?

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Max Vty's


Group,

Glad to see the list back up and running!

This topic was discussed a while ago and I found 2 posts in the archives but
they didn't say much.

When I look at CCO docs, it says that 200 vtys are allowed on a 2600, but I
can only get the original 5 to work.

Somebody mentioned that perhaps enterprise IOS is required.  I can't seem to
find where it states that ver x allows more vtys than version y.

Does anyone got a better reference on this?

Kevin Wigle


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Re: CCIE Written Question

2001-03-11 Thread Phil Barker


Yes

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Resolved : RIP I IGRP load balancing, in the lab ?

2001-03-11 Thread Phil Barker


It appears to be the difference in output from "debug
ip packet" from a telnet session versus a console
session.

If I telnet and console to the same router I get the
results as previously described.
However, when using console only I am now seeing
S0,S1,S0,S1 for process-switching. Phw !!!

These things are set to try us.

Regards,

Phil.

--- Phil Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Hi Group,
   I have a problem regarding load balancing
 distance vector protocols namely RIP I and IGRP.
 
 I have 2x2500 routers connected via their serial
 interfaces respectively, s0-s0  S1-S1. I have
 another router hanging off one of these Ethernet
 ports
 just to add some dimension to the network.
 
 It makes no difference wether or not I am in
 fast-switching mode or process-switching mode (no ip
 route-cache) the same debug output is generated for
 a
 1000 ip ping test. Roughly speaking the load
 balancing
 appears as 50 ish packets through S0 and then 50 ish
 through S1. This is NOT what I expected !!!
 
 I thought that in process-switch mode the packets
 would alternate (S0,S1,S0,S1) etc.
 And that in fast switching mode only one of the
 serial
 interfaces would be utilised since per destination
 load balancing would take place.
 
 So, in a nutshell, the debug output is the same when
 using RIP or IGRP also wether process-switched or
 fast-switched.
 
 I've included config's and debug output.
 
 I'm wondering though if this is an architectural
 issue
 with the 2500 routers having a flat memory space ???
 
 Any thoughts welcome,
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: Max Vty's

2001-03-11 Thread Groupstudy

You need Enterprise IOS to get more than 5 vty's.

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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 12:20 PM
Subject: Max Vty's

 Group,

 Glad to see the list back up and running!

 This topic was discussed a while ago and I found 2 posts in the archives
but
 they didn't say much.

 When I look at CCO docs, it says that 200 vtys are allowed on a 2600, but
I
 can only get the original 5 to work.

 Somebody mentioned that perhaps enterprise IOS is required.  I can't seem
to
 find where it states that ver x allows more vtys than version y.

 Does anyone got a better reference on this?

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RE: CCIE Written Question

2001-03-11 Thread Brant Stevens


Yes you can

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Quick quesion for those who have taken the CCIE
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Can you go back after answering a question?

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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


Does it occur to anyone else that it's strange to put CCIE's in 
"project management" when the CCIE program doesn't, in the slightest, 
test for project management skills?


just a correction, it wasn't a newspaper but an article on ZDNet:

http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2693233-1,00.html

which in part states:

Quote

Not to be left out, Cisco Systems is reworking its partner program so that
all partners are required to specialize. The company also will require
customer-satisfaction ratings for its partners, a step taken by Microsoft
earlier this year for its top-tier Gold partners.

In return, Cisco will share its best practices and tools with its partners
and drop the CCIE requirements from one per $10 million sales to one per $40
million in sales. That will push CCIEs into a project management role, and
put more responsibility on the shoulders of associate, professional and
expert certified Cisco partners.

Unquote.

Kevin Wigle

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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


Yes, yes, I agree.

The whole article is a contradiction to what I would think is the "normal"
expectation of what a CCIE does and therefore what all the CCxAs, CCxPs are
supposedly striving to become.

Whereas some of the new Channel Partner requirements make it more difficult
for the small companies (more certified bodies, specialization points, etc)
the new sales dollar amount per CCIE is beneficial for the large companies
since they don't "have" to pay CCIE salaries.

Perhaps this is where they intend to put all the new found "extra" CCIEs

But do project managers bring down the same bucks?
Do I want to be a CCIE project manager?

How about:

"and put more responsibility on the shoulders of associate, professional and
expert certified Cisco partners."

Does that mean that the rest of us get a raise for the more responsibility


and just what is an:

"expert certified Cisco partners." ??

More questions than answers on this new Channel Program.  Combine that with
Cisco downsizing and where does that leave us CCIE wannabees?

I sent a post earlier that said that Cisco certification provided the best
return on certification training dollar, but will that continue in the wake
of these shake-ups?

Kevin Wigle

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From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 11 March, 2001 16:09
Subject: Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


 Does it occur to anyone else that it's strange to put CCIE's in
 "project management" when the CCIE program doesn't, in the slightest,
 test for project management skills?


 just a correction, it wasn't a newspaper but an article on ZDNet:
 
 http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2693233-1,00.html
 
 which in part states:
 
 Quote
 
 Not to be left out, Cisco Systems is reworking its partner program so
that
 all partners are required to specialize. The company also will require
 customer-satisfaction ratings for its partners, a step taken by Microsoft
 earlier this year for its top-tier Gold partners.
 
 In return, Cisco will share its best practices and tools with its
partners
 and drop the CCIE requirements from one per $10 million sales to one per
$40
 million in sales. That will push CCIEs into a project management role,
and
 put more responsibility on the shoulders of associate, professional and
 expert certified Cisco partners.
 
 Unquote.
 
 Kevin Wigle


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Re: [svlug] multiport nics or nic teaming

2001-03-11 Thread Dagmar d'Surreal


On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Brian W. wrote:

 
 I have a friend that is trying to setup a situation like this.
 
 router w hsrp--2 switches---2 ports on a multiport nic on a server.
 
 He'd like the server to be a Solaris running Sparc.  The part he wants to
 accomplish that I couldn't answer is this.  He wants each port to have the
 same ip and for the other port to take over if 1 fails.
 
 Any of you know of a site that outlines driver/hardware plans that have
 worked??

You just described a basic Stonebeat cluster configuration.  It's only
marginally cheaper than Sun's own clustering solution.

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Re: [svlug] multiport nics or nic teaming

2001-03-11 Thread Clayton Price


Solaris 8 supports that feature.  To have a second NIC/port on standby.
There are also a few NIC cards for solaris 6/7 that support that.

Clayton Price


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 On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Brian W. wrote:

 
  I have a friend that is trying to setup a situation like this.
 
  router w hsrp--2 switches---2 ports on a multiport nic on a server.
 
  He'd like the server to be a Solaris running Sparc.  The part he wants
to
  accomplish that I couldn't answer is this.  He wants each port to have
the
  same ip and for the other port to take over if 1 fails.
 
  Any of you know of a site that outlines driver/hardware plans that have
  worked??

 You just described a basic Stonebeat cluster configuration.  It's only
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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


It's kinda funny how this whole certification process evolved.  In the
"olden days", the CCIE was a certification that was geared towards the TAC,
as a way of enhancing Cisco's already-renowned technical support.  It was
offered to the external world as a way for those packet jockeys to be
acknowledged as experts in the internetworking field.

The CCNA/NP/DA/DP certs were geared mostly toward the channel, to enhance
and acknowledge their technical expertise.  When they looked at the certs
carefully though, Cisco decided to make CCIE certification a requirement for
their premier channel partners, and the number of CCIE's and amount of sales
determined their premier partner status.

As far as CCIE's being "project managers", most of them balk at it because
in truth, they're technical experts, not project experts.  The quote from
the article is the opinion of the authors, and not necessarily the position
that Cisco is taking for the CCIE.


- Original Message -
From: Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


 Does it occur to anyone else that it's strange to put CCIE's in
 "project management" when the CCIE program doesn't, in the slightest,
 test for project management skills?


 just a correction, it wasn't a newspaper but an article on ZDNet:
 
 http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2693233-1,00.html
 
 which in part states:
 
 Quote
 
 Not to be left out, Cisco Systems is reworking its partner program so
that
 all partners are required to specialize. The company also will require
 customer-satisfaction ratings for its partners, a step taken by Microsoft
 earlier this year for its top-tier Gold partners.
 
 In return, Cisco will share its best practices and tools with its
partners
 and drop the CCIE requirements from one per $10 million sales to one per
$40
 million in sales. That will push CCIEs into a project management role,
and
 put more responsibility on the shoulders of associate, professional and
 expert certified Cisco partners.
 
 Unquote.
 
 Kevin Wigle

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fatkid.com, opinions, interested in sharing a time slot?

2001-03-11 Thread george


First this site seems to be a good location to go to for some reasonably
priced online lab time. ($70 for 5.5 hours, seven routers and a switch with
remote reboot ability). Has anyone actually used their services and have an
opinion on it?

Secondly would there be one or two people out there willing to go in on some
time slots. We would have to have some kind of aggreement and evenly break
out the timeslot between us. It would be a good way to get a feel for their
service and not be a big investment for the initial one.





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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?

2001-03-11 Thread new_user


As to an earlier question, do PMs make as much? Yes, if you have many years
of experience, technical to the hands on level, and hold a PM certification
such as PMI you can earn a good living. Some CCIEs may have the PM
experience from previous employment or consulting gigs. It is up to the
individual. Any technical person with PM experience are well sought after. I
maintain both and some gigs are both, some just hands on technical and some
just PM. jJust my 2 cents..

JS CCNP/DP soon IE(hopefully) CNE, Oracle Master, CNX, PMG, MI and EIEIO...



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009a01c0aa7f$c8deff80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:009a01c0aa7f$c8deff80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 It's kinda funny how this whole certification process evolved.  In the
 "olden days", the CCIE was a certification that was geared towards the
TAC,
 as a way of enhancing Cisco's already-renowned technical support.  It was
 offered to the external world as a way for those packet jockeys to be
 acknowledged as experts in the internetworking field.

 The CCNA/NP/DA/DP certs were geared mostly toward the channel, to enhance
 and acknowledge their technical expertise.  When they looked at the certs
 carefully though, Cisco decided to make CCIE certification a requirement
for
 their premier channel partners, and the number of CCIE's and amount of
sales
 determined their premier partner status.

 As far as CCIE's being "project managers", most of them balk at it because
 in truth, they're technical experts, not project experts.  The quote from
 the article is the opinion of the authors, and not necessarily the
position
 that Cisco is taking for the CCIE.


 - Original Message -
 From: Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 1:09 PM
 Subject: Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


  Does it occur to anyone else that it's strange to put CCIE's in
  "project management" when the CCIE program doesn't, in the slightest,
  test for project management skills?
 
 
  just a correction, it wasn't a newspaper but an article on ZDNet:
  
  http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2693233-1,00.html
  
  which in part states:
  
  Quote
  
  Not to be left out, Cisco Systems is reworking its partner program so
 that
  all partners are required to specialize. The company also will require
  customer-satisfaction ratings for its partners, a step taken by
Microsoft
  earlier this year for its top-tier Gold partners.
  
  In return, Cisco will share its best practices and tools with its
 partners
  and drop the CCIE requirements from one per $10 million sales to one
per
 $40
  million in sales. That will push CCIEs into a project management role,
 and
  put more responsibility on the shoulders of associate, professional and
  expert certified Cisco partners.
  
  Unquote.
  
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RE: CCIE Written Question

2001-03-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Are you allow to use Window Calculator software?  I want to know if there is a lot 
conversion b/w decimal to hex or bin to hex?

Thanks!
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Yes you can

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Quick quesion for those who have taken the CCIE
Written

Can you go back after answering a question?

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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?

2001-03-11 Thread Gareth Hinton


Quote from the article:

"In return, Cisco will share its best practices and tools with its partners
and drop the CCIE requirements from one per $10 million sales to one per $40
million in sales.
That will push CCIEs into a project management role, and put more
responsibility on the shoulders of associate, professional and expert
certified Cisco partners."

Where does the project management thing come from? Very possibly, the second
part of the statement may be true, that with a lower percentage of CCIE's
the NA, DA, NP, DP's will take on the workload that the CCIE's previously
shouldered.
The CCIE may take on a more general consultancy role supporting the lower
qual's, but Project Management?
Surely the CCIE could be even busier doing what 4 CCIE's were doing before.

Is this going to increase the value/requirement for the other
qualifications?
Is this going to make the CCIE more of a rarity? (All of ours were company
sponsored through CCIE)

And more importantly are my company going to change their mind about
sponsoring me through it?

Are the details of this available anywhere, if it's official at all? (No
offence ZDNet)

Gareth




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009a01c0aa7f$c8deff80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:009a01c0aa7f$c8deff80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 It's kinda funny how this whole certification process evolved.  In the
 "olden days", the CCIE was a certification that was geared towards the
TAC,
 as a way of enhancing Cisco's already-renowned technical support.  It was
 offered to the external world as a way for those packet jockeys to be
 acknowledged as experts in the internetworking field.

 The CCNA/NP/DA/DP certs were geared mostly toward the channel, to enhance
 and acknowledge their technical expertise.  When they looked at the certs
 carefully though, Cisco decided to make CCIE certification a requirement
for
 their premier channel partners, and the number of CCIE's and amount of
sales
 determined their premier partner status.

 As far as CCIE's being "project managers", most of them balk at it because
 in truth, they're technical experts, not project experts.  The quote from
 the article is the opinion of the authors, and not necessarily the
position
 that Cisco is taking for the CCIE.


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 Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 1:09 PM
 Subject: Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


  Does it occur to anyone else that it's strange to put CCIE's in
  "project management" when the CCIE program doesn't, in the slightest,
  test for project management skills?
 
 
  just a correction, it wasn't a newspaper but an article on ZDNet:
  
  http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2693233-1,00.html
  
  which in part states:
  
  Quote
  
  Not to be left out, Cisco Systems is reworking its partner program so
 that
  all partners are required to specialize. The company also will require
  customer-satisfaction ratings for its partners, a step taken by
Microsoft
  earlier this year for its top-tier Gold partners.
  
  In return, Cisco will share its best practices and tools with its
 partners
  and drop the CCIE requirements from one per $10 million sales to one
per
 $40
  million in sales. That will push CCIEs into a project management role,
 and
  put more responsibility on the shoulders of associate, professional and
  expert certified Cisco partners.
  
  Unquote.
  
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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


and another article...

http://idg.net/crd_idgsearch_466265.html?sc=66050602_87574

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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


to continue the thread, I've found a news release on Cisco's website:

http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/corp_030501.html

Quote:

Balanced Approach to Technical Staffing

The previous Cisco Channel Partner Program emphasized employing individuals
who have earned a Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert (CCIET)
certification. While CCIEs remain an important criterion for channel
certifications, the new more flexible program recognizes the broader array
of individual technical certifications that Cisco has developed over the
last three years. The program now balances the technical talent requirement
across the entire selection of Cisco associate, professional and expert
certified individuals.

"Hiring and retaining technical talent is a challenge for everyone in our
industry," said, Bob Norton, vice president, Select Inc. "We find by
focusing on specific solutions, Cisco certified associates and professionals
have the skills and knowledge to address most of our clients' needs,
allowing us to more effectively utilize the services of our CCIEs. The new
program's balanced emphasis on technical staffing proves Cisco is committed
to helping us succeed."

Unquote


So what they're saying is that they're saving the CCIEs for the tough jobs??

Haven't found the official word yet on the number of CCIEs required per
partnership.

Kevin Wigle


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Will the SE in Dallas......

2001-03-11 Thread Michael Nelson


Sorry for the span, but will the SE in Dallas that took the RS lab in
San Jose on 3/9 and 3/10 reply and let me know how you did.

thanks

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CCIE Lab Partner in Madison

2001-03-11 Thread Test


I'm taking the Lab on Sept 23rd.I have a study lab and access to two =
other ones with all the equipment that is in the Lab.   If you are =
interested in partnering let me know.   I'm in the process of planning =
my course of study.


Bill Parenteau
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Re: Have a problem

2001-03-11 Thread The.rock

How do i reset the config? When the router comes up I can't read anything
it comes up all jibber'ish. I can't read anything..Its all heiroglyphics. So
If i cant read the screen, how in the hell is password recovery going to do
me anygood? Once again let me say this: I can't even read the screen. Where
the System boot info usually comes up, I get all capital C's across the
screen. I'm sure that it is something with the config reg. I just don't know
how to fix it...

I was doing the password recovery to begin with ( setting the 0x2102 on a
2502). It was on the reboot that all the CCC's starting coming up. Once
again that is all that is on my hyperterm screen all CCC's.

Thanks for any help you can give...Mr supino has given the best advice, i
just don't have a lo

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Have you tried just resetting the config reg back to the proper setting?
This information is on CCO.

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Subject: Re: Have a problem

I was trying to do the password recovery where you change the config
register. I figure i typed something in wrong. You think that replacing
the
boot chips would work? I had planned on doing this anyway. Especially if
this fixes the problem

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It looks like you might have changed the console port baud rate. At
least
I
think that's possible with the config register. I just woke up and I'm
a
little sluggish. g

Anyway, try changing the connection speed in your terminal software to
other
settings to see if something else works.

Good luck!

John

I was trying to reset a password on router and i guess I fat fingered
the
entry and mistyped the entry for the configuration register. Now all
i
get
is a bunch of " CCC's" on boot up. Does anyone know how I can fix
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BGP !

2001-03-11 Thread Muhammed Khalilullah


Hi All,
I just wanna know if 1600 routers support BGP. If yes,
then which IOS version and what are the memory
requirements. I've heard that BGP is rather a platform
dependent routing protocol. Is this true? I've tried
12.0 IP and IP/PLUS versions and it says 'Unknown
Routing Protocol' in response to the command 'Router
BGP xxx' :

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Serial port Full Duplex or Half duplex?

2001-03-11 Thread Tony van Ree


Hi,

Best look at Full Duplex and what it means.  I think either could be a more 
appropriate answer.  Depending on the device connecting to the serial port.  Most 
devices you connect to a V.35 interface will indeed run at full duplex.

Dulpex is not an ethernet thing  but a comms thing that allows a connection to 
transmit on one cct and receive on another.  It might use some form of modulation to 
separate one cct from another or could use a 4 wire connection as in ethernet as long 
as both circuits are separated.

Just some thoughts,

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia

On Thursday, February 08, 2001 at 04:59:05 PM, Circusnuts wrote:

 neither- I can't think of any type Serial interfaces that pay much attention
 to Ethernet duplex :o)  If you meant Ethernet, I don't know that I have ever
 seen that ability on the routers (switches yes)...
 
 Phil
 
 - Original Message -
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 4:56 PM
 Subject: Serial port Full Duplex or Half duplex?
 
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Can anyone tell me In cisco routers, serial interface with v.35 will work
  in Full Deuplex or Half Duplex?
 
  Thanks,
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Token Ring Media Filter Pinout?

2001-03-11 Thread Ehab Mohamad Abdullah


Hi,

Is there any body who can tell me what is the RJ45 to DB9 token ring
pinout. I'm trying to make one, but can't find the pinout on the internet.
Please Help. The problem I'm too far from the states, and it does
not worth it to order a patch cable from there, if I can make locally.

Thank you very much for your help...

Ehab

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O/T One question CID test

2001-03-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer


I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article 
today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking).

In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has

A. All of the below
B. None of the below
C. All of the above
D. One of the above
E. None of the above
F. None of the above

Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! 
Can you deduce what it is?

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Query range of EIGRP networks

2001-03-11 Thread Arthur Simplina


Using EIGRP, queries are propagated throughout the network. If this is a 
large enterprise network, queries will be sent thru the network boundary. 
Unlike OSPF where areas can be created to partition the network and make it 
more manageable, i.e., changes and subsequent route recalculations are 
isolated within the particular area, EIGRP has one single AS where routers 
go in active mode in trying to find a feasible successor to a failed link.In 
OSPF, summarization is done at the ABRs while in EIGRP, this can be done in 
any router.

I read from the Routing Certification Guide that summarization is the best 
way to limit the query range of EIGRP networks and that, queries can be 
managed effectively by summarization and filters.

Can somebody explain this more fully?

I can better visualize the OSPF areas that scale well to large enterprise 
networks. But I dont see an analogy to this with EIGRP except that is has 
an extremely fast convergence mechanism when the routers have feasible 
successors and has a large diameter that addresses the scalability issues.

TIA.

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Re: Serial port Full Duplex or Half duplex?

2001-03-11 Thread Circusnuts


Ok Ok- ya got me...  Of course V.35, RS-232, RS-449, Multimode, etc., etc.
are used to support Full Duplex transmissions.  Maybe it was BSMCN on the
brain.  As my old Uncle Olauff used to day "this problem is seemingly
obvious to the casual observer :o)

Phil

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 Hi,

 Best look at Full Duplex and what it means.  I think either could be a
more appropriate answer.  Depending on the device connecting to the serial
port.  Most devices you connect to a V.35 interface will indeed run at full
duplex.

 Dulpex is not an ethernet thing  but a comms thing that allows a
connection to transmit on one cct and receive on another.  It might use some
form of modulation to separate one cct from another or could use a 4 wire
connection as in ethernet as long as both circuits are separated.

 Just some thoughts,

 Teunis
 Hobart, Tasmania
 Australia

 On Thursday, February 08, 2001 at 04:59:05 PM, Circusnuts wrote:

  neither- I can't think of any type Serial interfaces that pay much
attention
  to Ethernet duplex :o)  If you meant Ethernet, I don't know that I have
ever
  seen that ability on the routers (switches yes)...
 
  Phil
 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 4:56 PM
  Subject: Serial port Full Duplex or Half duplex?
 
 
  
   Hi,
  
   Can anyone tell me In cisco routers, serial interface with v.35 will
work
   in Full Deuplex or Half Duplex?
  
   Thanks,
   Kiran
  
  
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can't use regular telnet after Lock-and-Key configured ?

2001-03-11 Thread Andy Net


After I configured the router using Lock-and-Key (Dynamic access-list), I 
can't use
the regular telnet to go into the system for some maintenance tasks, seems 
like all
the usernames are tightly bound to Lock-and-Key feature.
Any workaround ?

Thanks in advance
Andy

configure of the router:

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service password-encryption
!
hostname Rabbit
!
enable secret 5 $1$yKHa$nUhLHTLUhTRw6quNKtdvE.
!
username test password 7 111D1C1603
username abc password 7 01120407
username me password 7 060B0A
!
!
!
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
!
frame-relay switching
!
!
process-max-time 200
!
interface Ethernet0
ip address 10.1.1.3 255.255.255.0
ip access-group 102 in
no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Serial0
bandwidth 192
ip address 192.168.18.1 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
encapsulation frame-relay
ip split-horizon
no fair-queue
no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 20
no frame-relay inverse-arp NOVELL 20
no frame-relay inverse-arp APPLETALK 20
frame-relay local-dlci 20
frame-relay intf-type dce
!
interface Serial1
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
router rip
redistribute static metric 1
network 10.0.0.0
network 192.168.18.0
!
no ip http server
ip classless
!
logging trap Unknown
access-list 102 permit tcp any host 10.1.1.3 eq telnet
access-list 102 dynamic myTest timeout 5 permit ip any any
!
line con 0
exec-timeout 30 0
logging synchronous
history size 256
transport input none
line 1 16
transport input all
line aux 0
transport input all
line vty 0 4
login local
autocommand access-enable timeout 5
!
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Re: BGP !

2001-03-11 Thread Brian


I would be really surprised if the 160* series supports the current 128
soon to be 256 megs required for a full routing table.

Brian Whalen

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Muhammed Khalilullah wrote:

 Hi All,
 I just wanna know if 1600 routers support BGP. If yes,
 then which IOS version and what are the memory
 requirements. I've heard that BGP is rather a platform
 dependent routing protocol. Is this true? I've tried
 12.0 IP and IP/PLUS versions and it says 'Unknown
 Routing Protocol' in response to the command 'Router
 BGP xxx' :

 Thanks in advance,
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RE: IPX Question

2001-03-11 Thread Tony van Ree


Both is best,

Run something like IPX EIGRP make sure you turn IPX Rip off on your WAN links.  Run a 
filter at every point to filter SAP and networks.  After all, do all the sites need to 
see the devices on all other sites.  The best way to get nice results are to "DESIGN 
YOUR IPX WAN" don't let it design itself.  That way you can make 'nice filters' that 
allow you to group networks etc.

Each region might might use code say north = 2, south = 5, East = E. You could then 
use another for towns in a region A, B, C, whatever.  Then similar for sites.  You 
might run accounts on 3xxx, networks and sales on 4xxx networks.

Using a stucture like this will allow you to filter at access and core points and 
direct your SAP's etc much better.  This can create a little more work but can be 
worth it.  You can use it as a form of router/sap summarisation.

Just some thoughts,

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia

On Thursday, March 08, 2001 at 03:36:49 PM, Stull. Cory wrote:

 Upgrade to netware 5 and use IP...  If not you should always try to filter
 as close to the source of the traffic as you can.  If your using Cisco I
 would recommend using EIGRP with incremental SAP updates.
 
 Cory
 
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 I am responsible for design  a IPX network... We have a a 56k line
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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?

2001-03-11 Thread Dan West


is it just me or is that saying that if you're a
reseller/sales person then you'd better get your CCIE
to keep your job? nah...that's too crazy.


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Re: O/T One question CID test

2001-03-11 Thread Arthur Simplina

My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess 
than no answer. :D

Arthur

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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800

I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article
today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking).

In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer 
has

A. All of the below
B. None of the below
C. All of the above
D. One of the above
E. None of the above
F. None of the above

Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer!
Can you deduce what it is?

Priscilla

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Re: Have a problem

2001-03-11 Thread The.rock


John...Thank you very much...

I'm an idiot. I went back thru and ran thru all the console baud rates and
the only one i didn't try was 1200. As soon as I set it now eveyting is
working. Thanks

Thanks to everyone for input.


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Re: ADSL Splits off a 4KHz Region

2001-03-11 Thread Isdianto Tanu Setijadjie - Metronet


It means that the voice signal is using bandwidth from 0Hz (DC end of the
band) until 4kHz, and ADSL signal is using above the 4kHz (usually from
100kHz until several Mbps).

You still need a splitter at your site to connect to the ADSL modem and
telp. (this is more expensive), or you can use microfilter (only to filter
higher freq.) to connect your telp. line to ADSL line.

Hope this will help.

Isdianto

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Sent: Friday, 09 March, 2001 08:31 AM
Subject: Re: ADSL Splits off a 4KHz Region


 I think it refers to the fact that voice is ran at the
 3KHz or abouts spectrum. ADSL runs higher than that so
 they don't interfere with each other. That's why you
 can surf and talk on the phone at the same time. But
 you still need a splitter to send traffic from your
 phone line to either the phone or the DSL CPE.

 Michael

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can someone explain the following statement to me?
 
  ADSL Splits off a 4 KHz region for basic telephone
  service at the DC end of
  the band.
 
  I do not understand what they mean by Splits off
  (How)?
  I do not understand; at the DC end of the band?
 
  TIA,
 
 
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Re: ISDN 22 second PPP Negotiation Time-out, help...

2001-03-11 Thread Tony van Ree


Hi,

This sort of thing (22 Seconds) often happens when a remote device is attempting to 
authenticate say a Cisco router.  Linux is often one I come across another is when 
logging into a group of routers then using RDIUS or similar to allow access.

The remote device attemts to authenticate the called router but it does not 
necessarily reply the way the remote device wants to see it.  In a number of cases it 
is easier to have the called device to the 'chap' authentication and not have the 
remote device do the authentication as well (no auth in Linux ppp setup) don't add the 
'ppp auth chap' in the dialer of the calling router.  This of course assumes you are 
only interested in a remote connection calling to central site and the central site 
being the device interested in controlling security.

Debug PPP neg shows the attempt.

Just a thought,

It is one I have come across on several occasions.

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Friday, March 09, 2001 at 09:09:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have no experience with the US telco environment, but looking at this
 from another angle...
 You say that the PPP negotiation is timing out.  Is this because the
 negotiation traffic is being dropped (dodgy ISDN line), or is it because
 it's not negotiating properly in the first place?
 Debug ppp negotiation and debug ppp packet (I think - going from memory
 here) can be quite useful if you haven't already used them.  At both ends.
 I have had problems with a bug where prioritisation and PPP multilink could
 not be used on the same link.  If they were, PPP negotiation failed (timed
 out after about 22 seconds) - one side simply failed to reply to the other
 once the virtual link was set up.  Similarly, changing the encapsulation of
 an interface to PPP without shutting/no shutting the interface can give
 negotiation problems.  If this is a new link, what order did you enter
 commands in?  Was 'no shut' the first or last thing you did?
 If the problem is with the negotiation process itself, then you can
 probably stop pestering the telco and start pestering the TAC instead.
 
 JMcL
 
 -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 09/03/2001
 09:01 am ---
 
 
 Dan West [EMAIL PROTECTED]@groupstudy.com on 09/03/2001 03:15:44 am
 
 Please respond to Dan West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 To:   Kurt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:
 
 
 Subject:  Re: ISDN 22 second PPP Negotiation Time-out, help...
 
 
 I have done this *type* of work before Get ready.
 Ask telco to trace out the carrier for you from their
 demarc and find every mux point or switch AND ask them
 IF the circuit gets HANDED OFF to another CARRIER at
 some point.
 
 If so, your nice 64k digital line might be stepping
 down to analog within another telco (CARRIER) so your
 LEC might not even care or say they have control over
 it It's oh so much fun working with the phone
 companies. Although I must say I have worked with some
 really good, qualified people there who have been
 extremely helpful
 
 
 --- Kurt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have mutliple ISDN lines in the US that seem to be
  UN-Fixable...
  Calls time-out after 22 seconds. We use Cisco. Some
  locations work when you
  call in-bound but fail on out bound calls, while
  others fail both in and out
  bound. We order the ISDN 64k DATA/DATA. It must be
  64k DATA/DATA in order to
  work with our access-servers, VOICE/DATA will not
  work. Local and Long
  distance teclo SAY they are configured right... Long
  distance telco says
  they are handing a 64k data call to local and local
  says they are recieving
  a 64k data call and vise versa. Now for some issues
  I have been able to set
  the call speed to 56k to get the call working. My
  main point for posting
  this is to find help in how I can talk to the telco
  and make them look at
  the line and be absolutly sure that our calls are
  traveling a 64k DATA/DATA
  trunk and not being routed over ANALOG or
  VOICE/DATA. Or if there are any
  config changes that can be made local or on the
  access-servers.
 
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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


hmm I don't follow your thought there just about the opposite!

The idea is that resellers now must also obtain a specialization.
Fortunately my company should be getting the wireless LAN spec soon.

What is being said about CCIEs is that fewer of them are now required by
Cisco to get/keep your partnership status.

However, you must have "x" amount of CCNx people sand get one or more specs
and commit to a customer satisfaction measurement.

My questions to the group were asking if this means that there will soon be
less jobs for CCIEs because they are no longer needed in the same numbers
for partner certification.

Now I don't know how many CCIEs are employed as a direct requirement of the
old rules (one per $10 million sales vc now which is one per $40 million
sales) but it is still a 75% reduction - one instead of four, at least for
that group.

Kevin Wigle


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Subject: Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?


 is it just me or is that saying that if you're a
 reseller/sales person then you'd better get your CCIE
 to keep your job? nah...that's too crazy.


 --- Kevin Wigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  and another article...
 
 
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Re: can't use regular telnet after Lock-and-Key configured ?


Yes, I fought this one before...

As configured, everyone coming into the router on a vty cannot telnet into
the router - only through it.

If you need to connect to the router, use the autocommand line on every
username line.

Use one username without the autocommand to access the router.

so something like this:

username test password test
username test autocommand access-enable timeout 5
username happy password happy
username happy autocommand access-enable timeout 5
!
username letmein password cisco

The username "letmein" will be allowed to telnet into the router.

The bummer of course is that the users that should only need to pass through
the router now need two lines of config.

Kevin Wigle


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Sent: Sunday, 11 March, 2001 22:39
Subject: can't use regular telnet after Lock-and-Key configured ?


 After I configured the router using Lock-and-Key (Dynamic access-list), I
 can't use
 the regular telnet to go into the system for some maintenance tasks, seems
 like all
 the usernames are tightly bound to Lock-and-Key feature.
 Any workaround ?

 Thanks in advance
 Andy

 configure of the router:
 
 Current configuration:
 !
 version 12.0
 service password-encryption
 !
 hostname Rabbit
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$yKHa$nUhLHTLUhTRw6quNKtdvE.
 !
 username test password 7 111D1C1603
 username abc password 7 01120407
 username me password 7 060B0A
 !
 !
 !
 !
 ip subnet-zero
 no ip domain-lookup
 !
 frame-relay switching
 !
 !
 process-max-time 200
 !
 interface Ethernet0
 ip address 10.1.1.3 255.255.255.0
 ip access-group 102 in
 no ip directed-broadcast
 !
 interface Serial0
 bandwidth 192
 ip address 192.168.18.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation frame-relay
 ip split-horizon
 no fair-queue
 no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 20
 no frame-relay inverse-arp NOVELL 20
 no frame-relay inverse-arp APPLETALK 20
 frame-relay local-dlci 20
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 !
 interface Serial1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
 !
 router rip
 redistribute static metric 1
 network 10.0.0.0
 network 192.168.18.0
 !
 no ip http server
 ip classless
 !
 logging trap Unknown
 access-list 102 permit tcp any host 10.1.1.3 eq telnet
 access-list 102 dynamic myTest timeout 5 permit ip any any
 !
 line con 0
 exec-timeout 30 0
 logging synchronous
 history size 256
 transport input none
 line 1 16
 transport input all
 line aux 0
 transport input all
 line vty 0 4
 login local
 autocommand access-enable timeout 5
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Re: O/T One question CID test

2001-03-11 Thread Z


Well, hmmm, if you want me to deduce it I believe the answer would be
"D" because in choosing that answer you give the question 3 possible
statements to choose from. Hmmm, not sure if I even follow myself  =o)

Oh well, that's my answer...


This has been an Eyez Only streaming e-mail broadcast...We are watching.

NetEyez ~ CCNP, CCDA

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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test


 My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to
guess
 than no answer. :D

 Arthur


 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: O/T One question CID test
 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800
 
 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article
 today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking).
 
 In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your
customer
 has
 
 A. All of the below
 B. None of the below
 C. All of the above
 D. One of the above
 E. None of the above
 F. None of the above
 
 Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right
answer!
 Can you deduce what it is?
 
 Priscilla
 
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com
 
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Re: Max Vty's


I like getting answers to my posts  :-)  but I was wondering - did you find
that in a CCO document or is it through your experience?

I'm really trying to get good - very good at sifting CCO and the doc CD in
preparation of the eventual CCIE lab someday.

thanks

Kevin Wigle


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Sent: Sunday, 11 March, 2001 15:40
Subject: Re: Max Vty's


 You need Enterprise IOS to get more than 5 vty's.

 - Original Message -
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 To: Cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 12:20 PM
 Subject: Max Vty's


  Group,
 
  Glad to see the list back up and running!
 
  This topic was discussed a while ago and I found 2 posts in the archives
 but
  they didn't say much.
 
  When I look at CCO docs, it says that 200 vtys are allowed on a 2600,
but
 I
  can only get the original 5 to work.
 
  Somebody mentioned that perhaps enterprise IOS is required.  I can't
seem
 to
  find where it states that ver x allows more vtys than version y.
 
  Does anyone got a better reference on this?
 
  Kevin Wigle
 
 
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OSPF multicast addresses

2001-03-11 Thread Fred Danson


Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out in which situations certain OSPF multicast 
addresses are used. The two multicast addresses used in OSPF that I know of 
are 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6. From my understanding, in a broadcast network, 
all ospf routers send link info to the DR/BDR with the address of 224.0.0.6. 
The DR will then send all the data back to the DROTHER routers using the 
address of 224.0.0.5. Is this correct?

I previously thought that the DR sent the data back using the address of 
224.0.0.6, but this wouldn't work because the DROTHER routers don't listen 
to that address. Is this also correct?
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CCIE Preparartion Lab.

2001-03-11 Thread John D.C.


Hello everybody,

I need some opinion about CCIE Preparation Lab. information.
I got information about training in this site :

Kinetic Education Limited
The Mill
Horton Road
Stanwell Moor
Middlesex
TW19 6BJ
  0044  (0) 1753 683705
United of Kingdom.

Does anybody know how good and usefull is it?

Thank's in advance,

J.D.C.


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Re: Query range of EIGRP networks

2001-03-11 Thread Robert Padjen


Queries in EIGRP will traverse the AS, and any EIGRP
ASs that are redistributions from the origin EIGRP AS.
BGP, et al, can kill this, but this is the same as a
summary in EIGRP. Once a query hits a summary point it
goes one hop further and dies.

--- Arthur Simplina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Using EIGRP, queries are propagated throughout the
 network. If this is a 
 large enterprise network, queries will be sent thru
 the network boundary. 
 Unlike OSPF where areas can be created to partition
 the network and make it 
 more manageable, i.e., changes and subsequent route
 recalculations are 
 isolated within the particular area, EIGRP has one
 single AS where routers 
 go in active mode in trying to find a feasible
 successor to a failed link.In 
 OSPF, summarization is done at the ABRs while in
 EIGRP, this can be done in 
 any router.
 
 I read from the Routing Certification Guide that
 summarization is the best 
 way to limit the query range of EIGRP networks and
 that, queries can be 
 managed effectively by summarization and filters.
 
 Can somebody explain this more fully?
 
 I can better visualize the OSPF areas that scale
 well to large enterprise 
 networks. But I dont see an analogy to this with
 EIGRP except that is has 
 an extremely fast convergence mechanism when the
 routers have feasible 
 successors and has a large diameter that addresses
 the scalability issues.
 
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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?

2001-03-11 Thread Robert Padjen


I think that, as historically demonstrated, the
talented ones will do well. CCIE status right now is
in flux simply because the rates were quite high, the
skills inconsistent, and the training/certification
challenged. I wanted to sit the CCIE Design track and
its already been yanked with others. 

There will not be a glut of CCIEs in my opinion, but
there will be a greater demand for people who know -
that means a piece of paper is not going to do it and
the days of passing a goofy test and making $200/hr
are thankfully ending. (Hopefully the $200/hr for
those who know, with or without the CCIE, will not be
too impacted.)

Study hard, make sure that you have non-technical
skills to augment your technical ones, compete on
merit and not letters and you'll do well. Good luck -
I think this is just the start (of course it is -
everything is just the start...) ;)


--- Kevin Wigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on the same topic - almost.
 
 is the new Channel Partner Program that begins this
 July.
 
 Being "only" a Premier Partner I guess I don't get
 the whole story as it
 relates to Silver and Gold Partners.
 
 However, our local paper ran a large article on the
 cutbacks at Cisco
 (Ottawa/Kanata - Silicon North) and that article
 also said that Cisco is
 lessening the amount of CCIEs required.
 
 It used to be one CCIE for every $10m of product and
 now it will be one CCIE
 for $40m of product.
 
 So, that means that companies won't need as many
 CCIEs as before.  Does this
 shrink the market for CCIEs?  Will this affect
 whether you want/need to be a
 CCIE?   Will the market now have a glut of CCIEs
 since companies don't need
 as many any more.
 
 What to do think??
 
 Kevin Wigle
 
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OSPF multicast addresses

2001-03-11 Thread Fred Danson


Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out in which situations certain OSPF multicast 
addresses are used. The two multicast addresses used in OSPF that I know of 
are 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6. From my understanding, in a broadcast network, 
all ospf routers send link info to the DR/BDR with the address of 224.0.0.6. 
The DR will then send all the data back to the DROTHER routers using the 
address of 224.0.0.5. Is this correct?

I previously thought that the DR sent the data back using the address of
224.0.0.6, but this wouldn't work because the DROTHER routers don't listen 
to that address. Is this also correct?

Thanks in advance,
Fred

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Re:

2001-03-11 Thread Richard Bosire


Not necessarily , DLCI, have only a local significance

bosire

Rizzo Damian wrote:

 It was my understanding that two devices in a PVC connection had to have the
 same DLCI number. Is this correct?

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IP Address

2001-03-11 Thread Fanglo MA


Dear ALL,

One simple question and would like someone direct me the answer:

On a router, 26xx, if ping www.cnn.com is executed in via console, what is
the IP address the router would use?

regards,
Fanglo


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Re: BGP !

2001-03-11 Thread Fanglo MA


Yes if you got enterprise image.
As for memory issue, I think 24M 1600 can do as 16M 25xx also running smooth
in our company.

regards
Fanglo

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 Hi All,
 I just wanna know if 1600 routers support BGP. If yes,
 then which IOS version and what are the memory
 requirements. I've heard that BGP is rather a platform
 dependent routing protocol. Is this true? I've tried
 12.0 IP and IP/PLUS versions and it says 'Unknown
 Routing Protocol' in response to the command 'Router
 BGP xxx' :

 Thanks in advance,
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Re: Token Ring Media Filter Pinout?

2001-03-11 Thread Fanglo MA


I have tried before and failure. At last, I got some in ebay. My advice is
buy one from any mean you can as eventually I found that there is some
circuit inside the medium filter to cater layer seven issues.

regards,
Fanglo

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 Hi,

 Is there any body who can tell me what is the RJ45 to DB9 token ring
 pinout. I'm trying to make one, but can't find the pinout on the internet.
 Please Help. The problem I'm too far from the states, and it does
 not worth it to order a patch cable from there, if I can make locally.

 Thank you very much for your help...

 Ehab

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Re: IP Address

2001-03-11 Thread jj


The out interface's ip.
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 Dear ALL,

 One simple question and would like someone direct me the answer:

 On a router, 26xx, if ping www.cnn.com is executed in via console, what is
 the IP address the router would use?

 regards,
 Fanglo


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RE: OSPF multicast addresses

2001-03-11 Thread Nathan Chessin

yes, this is correct

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Fred Danson
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 8:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OSPF multicast addresses

Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out in which situations certain OSPF multicast
addresses are used. The two multicast addresses used in OSPF that I know of
are 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6. From my understanding, in a broadcast network,
all ospf routers send link info to the DR/BDR with the address of 224.0.0.6.
The DR will then send all the data back to the DROTHER routers using the
address of 224.0.0.5. Is this correct?

I previously thought that the DR sent the data back using the address of
224.0.0.6, but this wouldn't work because the DROTHER routers don't listen
to that address. Is this also correct?
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Re: Have a problem

Good grief, man! Have you tried changing the baud rate on your terminal
software yet? It definitely looks as if you've changed the console baud
rate configuration setting in the router. Since you don't know what you
changed it to, you need to try the four possible baud rates: 9600, 4800,
2400, and 1200. I'm assuming you were already at 9600, so try the other
three.

Have you received my last two emails? In both of them I suggested this
course of action. Forgive me if I'm a little abrupt. I just spent two
hours formatting my hard drive and rebuilding my PC from scratch. Lots of
fun! g

Regards,
John

How do i reset the config? When the router comes up I can't read
anything
it comes up all jibber'ish. I can't read anything..Its all heiroglyphics.
So
If i cant read the screen, how in the hell is password recovery going to
do
me anygood? Once again let me say this: I can't even read the screen.
Where
the System boot info usually comes up, I get all capital C's across the
screen. I'm sure that it is something with the config reg. I just don't
know
how to fix it...

Thanks for any help you can give...Mr supino has given the best advice, i
just don't have a lo

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Have you tried just resetting the config reg back to the proper
setting?
This information is on CCO.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
The.Rock
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Have a problem

I was trying to do the password recovery where you change the config
register. I figure i typed something in wrong. You think that replacing
the
boot chips would work? I had planned on doing this anyway. Especially
if
this fixes the problem

"John Neiberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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It looks like you might have changed the console port baud rate. At
least
I
think that's possible with the config register. I just woke up and
I'm
a
little sluggish. g

Anyway, try changing the connection speed in your terminal software
to
other
settings to see if something else works.

Good luck!

John

I was trying to reset a password on router and i guess I fat
fingered
the
entry and mistyped the entry for the configuration register. Now
all
i
get
is a bunch of " CCC's" on boot up. Does anyone know how I can fix
this?

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Re: O/T One question CID test


Yes!  That is a LOT like the CID questions!  Wow

My guess is E, but I'm not saying why just yet.  I don't want to corrupt
anyone else's thought processes.

John

  I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article 
  today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking).
  
  In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your
customer has
  
  A. All of the below
  B. None of the below
  C. All of the above
  D. One of the above
  E. None of the above
  F. None of the above
  
  Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right
answer! 
  Can you deduce what it is?
  
  Priscilla
  
  
  
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Mondays Press Release

2001-03-11 Thread Natasha


TRACK DATA REPORTS RECORD FOURTH QUARTER RESULTS
REAFFIRMS STOCK BUYBACK

New York, New York - March 12, 2001 - Track Data Corporation 
(Nasdaq NMS: TRAC) today announced results for its fourth 
quarter and year ended December 31, 2000.

Revenues for the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2000 were 
a record $17,973,000 compared to $11,784,000 for the same 
period in 1999, an increase of 53%.  Net income for the 
fourth quarter of 2000 was a record $5,039,000, or $.08 per 
share, compared to a net loss for the 1999 period of 
$(1,987,000), or $(.03) per share.  The revenue increase in 
2000 was due principally to the Companys myTrack services 
and the recognition of full commissions since obtaining its 
broker-dealer license and state registrations in August 2000.  
The 2000 period includes a gain on marketable securities of 
$771,000. 

Revenues for the year ended December 31, 2000 were a record 
$58,767,000 compared to $46,620,000 in 1999, an increase of 
26%.  Net income for the year ended December 31, 2000 was 
$2,059,000, or $.03 per share, compared to a net loss for 
the 1999 period of $(5,048,000), or $(.08) per share. The 
revenue increase for 2000 is described in the previous 
paragraph. The 2000 period includes a gain on marketable 
securities of $1,683,000.

Barry Hertz, Chairman and CEO, commented, "The results for 
the fourth quarter exceeded our expectations disclosed last 
quarter.  Daily trading volume increased 17% in the fourth 
quarter of 2000 compared to the third quarter of 2000.  We 
realized significant profitable operations in the second 
half of 2000 due to savings realized from reduced payroll 
and telecommunication costs, a significant reduction in 
marketing and advertising costs and reduced clearing costs.  
We also achieved increased revenues and profits in the 
second half of 2000 from our institutional market data 
services.

"The Company has repurchased approximately 1,500,000 shares 
of its common stock since the Company stated its intention 
to buy back up to two million of its shares under a stock 
repurchase plan.  The Company believes that at current 
prices, the stock is still undervalued. In light of the 
Company's business prospects for 2001 and beyond, the Board 
of Directors believes that repurchase of its shares is a 
prudent use of its capital. The Company expects to continue 
to purchase shares under the repurchase plan, from time to 
time, depending on market conditions and the price per share.

"We are very pleased to be on the radar screens of the major 
equity analysts who follow the online brokerage industry.  
JPMorgan HQ and Credit Suisse First Boston each report on 
approximately 15 major players in the industry.  We are 
proud that JPMorgan HQ and CSFB both chose to include 
myTrack in their fourth quarter 2000 industry reports.  We 
are even prouder that myTrack ranked first or second in 
several categories.  CSFB ranked myTrack #1 in transaction 
growth (sequential and year over year) and #1 in average 
transactions per account.

Mr. Hertz continued, "In other news, our previously 
announced joint venture with Knight Trading Group, Inc. 
(Nasdaq: NITE) is proceeding as planned and we expect to 
jointly introduce a new state-of-the-art trading product 
for the institutional trading market.  Introducing myTrack 
in the Canadian market has been slowed by regulators in 
Canada but we are still hopeful to make an announcement 
shortly.  We are not aware of any issues holding up approval.  
The approval of our ECN awaits testing with the NASD which 
is expected to be completed during March with approval 
coming in the second quarter.  We are ready for 
decimalization and are preparing for the new futures market 
in individual stocks.  Our new product, "DayTrader," was 
warmly received in its beta version at the recent online 
trading show in New York.  We expect to release this product 
on May 1."
 
Barry Hertz will conduct a live chat session this afternoon 
at 4:15 p.m. EST to discuss this release and the outlook 
for 2001.  myTrack members can participate in the chat by 
using the chat feature (channel 4) of the myTrack online 
trading service.  Non-members can view the chat by going to 
the web site http://www.mytrack.com and clicking on the 
"Live Chat" link in the left-hand navigation bar.  Those 
viewing the chat from the web will be able to see the 
questions in real-time and will be able to initiate 
questions.

Track Data is a New York-based financial services company 
that provides real-time financial market data, news, and 
research to institutional and individual investors through 
dedicated telecommunication lines and the Internet.

For individual investors, Track offers myTrack, a fully 
integrated, Internet-based online trading and market data 
system. myTracks direct access online trading has 
commissions starting at $12.95 per trade and allows users 
the choice of where to route their orders.  myTracks 
continuous, dynamic stream of

Re: CCIE Preparartion Lab.

I know the guy who runs it and he's ... very good!  how useful it is
probably up to you, but I'd be very certain that he keeps his courses
current.

- Original Message -
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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 9:11 PM
Subject: CCIE Preparartion Lab.

 Hello everybody,

 I need some opinion about CCIE Preparation Lab. information.
 I got information about training in this site :

 Kinetic Education Limited
 The Mill
 Horton Road
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 TW19 6BJ
   0044  (0) 1753 683705
 United of Kingdom.

 Does anybody know how good and usefull is it?

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Re: Token Ring Media Filter Pinout?

http://www.ortronics.com/products/search/default.asp?product=media+filter

- Original Message -
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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 7:20 PM
Subject: Token Ring Media Filter Pinout?

 Hi,

 Is there any body who can tell me what is the RJ45 to DB9 token ring
 pinout. I'm trying to make one, but can't find the pinout on the internet.
 Please Help. The problem I'm too far from the states, and it does
 not worth it to order a patch cable from there, if I can make locally.

 Thank you very much for your help...

 Ehab

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Re: Mondays Press Release

2001-03-11 Thread Natasha


Oh rats I didn't mean to spam the list.
I just clicked the wrong address sorry.

Natasha wrote:
 
 TRACK DATA REPORTS RECORD FOURTH QUARTER RESULTS
 REAFFIRMS STOCK BUYBACK
 
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dhcp client on ethernet interface on 4000m

2001-03-11 Thread Frank Kim


Hi folks,
From this url
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/iore/iomjre121/prodlit/1065_pp.htm
it states that 12.1(2)T supports dhcp client on ethernet interface.  I was
not able to find the ios code for the 4000 series router anywhere on
CCO.  I tried using the 12.1(7)T code on the 4000, but it did not accept
the command 'ip address dhcp' on the ethernet interface.  Anyone knows
which ios code will support dhcp client on an ethernet interface for a
4000 series router?  Thanks for any help.


-Frank


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Re: Mondays Press Release