RE: smtp vs. imap

[AHMET KAYA(EBI Bsk.- Uygulama Prog.)]

another e-mail address out of organization?

-Original Message-
From: Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: smtp vs. imap


as your Exchange's domain or as another address ?



-Original Message-
From: AHMET KAYA(EBI Bsk.- Uygulama Prog.) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:08 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: smtp vs. imap



hi all,
i can throw e-mails to my mailbox's outbox folder using IMAP4
protocol,but i need to send them to the internet?how can i do this SENDING
process ?..thanx and regards

Mail server:MS Exchange 5.5 w SP4
O/S:MS NT SRV 4.0 w SP6a

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Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item

[cslee]

Hi,
I'm using MS Outlook 98. The user send me 2 Excel files as attachment to the
email. However, I cann't see any attachment inside when I double click to
open the mail item. This only happen to 1 of my mail items.

However, If i change the mail format to Microsoft Outlook Rich Text, by
select Tools - Options - Mail Formats, then double click to open the
mail item, I can see the 2 attachments. Before that, I'm using Microsoft
Work mail format.

I used to Microsoft Work format due to some advange of the features. Any
ideas of what happen to my MS Outlook 98?

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 IT Department
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RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item

[William Lefkovics]

Ya.  The feature doesn’t work.


-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Hi,
I'm using MS Outlook 98. The user send me 2 Excel files as attachment to
the email. However, I cann't see any attachment inside when I double
click to open the mail item. This only happen to 1 of my mail items.

However, If i change the mail format to Microsoft Outlook Rich Text,
by select Tools - Options - Mail Formats, then double click to
open the mail item, I can see the 2 attachments. Before that, I'm using
Microsoft Work mail format.

I used to Microsoft Work format due to some advange of the features.
Any ideas of what happen to my MS Outlook 98?

 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034
 

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RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item

[cslee]

Anyway to use Microsoft Work format, and still can see the attachment
after openning the mail item?

This happen to only one of my mail item. Other mail item doesn't have any
problem of viewing the attachment.

If it's only happen to certain mail item, then a lot of arguement will
happen among the sender and recipient, on NOT sending the attachment by
sender, if the recipient cann't see any attachment after opening the mail
item.


 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Ya.  The feature doesn't work.


-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Hi,
I'm using MS Outlook 98. The user send me 2 Excel files as attachment to
the email. However, I cann't see any attachment inside when I double
click to open the mail item. This only happen to 1 of my mail items.

However, If i change the mail format to Microsoft Outlook Rich Text,
by select Tools - Options - Mail Formats, then double click to
open the mail item, I can see the 2 attachments. Before that, I'm using
Microsoft Work mail format.

I used to Microsoft Work format due to some advange of the features.
Any ideas of what happen to my MS Outlook 98?

 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034
 

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RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item

[William Lefkovics]

Anyway to use Microsoft Work format, and still can see the
attachment after openning the mail item?

I have users send with HTML or plain text only.  It cures almost all
these attachment issues.

What version email client and how are you connecting?  MAPI?

William

-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Anyway to use Microsoft Work format, and still can see the attachment
after openning the mail item?

This happen to only one of my mail item. Other mail item doesn't have
any problem of viewing the attachment.

If it's only happen to certain mail item, then a lot of arguement will
happen among the sender and recipient, on NOT sending the attachment by
sender, if the recipient cann't see any attachment after opening the
mail item.


 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Ya.  The feature doesn't work.


-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Hi,
I'm using MS Outlook 98. The user send me 2 Excel files as attachment to
the email. However, I cann't see any attachment inside when I double
click to open the mail item. This only happen to 1 of my mail items.

However, If i change the mail format to Microsoft Outlook Rich Text,
by select Tools - Options - Mail Formats, then double click to
open the mail item, I can see the 2 attachments. Before that, I'm using
Microsoft Work mail format.

I used to Microsoft Work format due to some advange of the features.
Any ideas of what happen to my MS Outlook 98?

 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034
 

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RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item

[cslee]

Of cause I can advise all internal users to use HTML or plain text only.
However, how about the EXTERNAL user, if they are using some others format?

Email client of sender and recipient is MS Outlook 98. They are connecting
to Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5, SP4.


 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Anyway to use Microsoft Work format, and still can see the
attachment after openning the mail item?

I have users send with HTML or plain text only.  It cures almost all
these attachment issues.

What version email client and how are you connecting?  MAPI?

William

-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Anyway to use Microsoft Work format, and still can see the attachment
after openning the mail item?

This happen to only one of my mail item. Other mail item doesn't have
any problem of viewing the attachment.

If it's only happen to certain mail item, then a lot of arguement will
happen among the sender and recipient, on NOT sending the attachment by
sender, if the recipient cann't see any attachment after opening the
mail item.


 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Ya.  The feature doesn't work.


-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Hi,
I'm using MS Outlook 98. The user send me 2 Excel files as attachment to
the email. However, I cann't see any attachment inside when I double
click to open the mail item. This only happen to 1 of my mail items.

However, If i change the mail format to Microsoft Outlook Rich Text,
by select Tools - Options - Mail Formats, then double click to
open the mail item, I can see the 2 attachments. Before that, I'm using
Microsoft Work mail format.

I used to Microsoft Work format due to some advange of the features.
Any ideas of what happen to my MS Outlook 98?

 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034
 

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RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item

[William Lefkovics]

What protocol are external clients using?  MAPI, IMAP, POP3?

-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Of cause I can advise all internal users to use HTML or plain text only.
However, how about the EXTERNAL user, if they are using some others
format?

Email client of sender and recipient is MS Outlook 98. They are
connecting to Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5, SP4.


 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Anyway to use Microsoft Work format, and still can see the
attachment after openning the mail item?

I have users send with HTML or plain text only.  It cures almost all
these attachment issues.

What version email client and how are you connecting?  MAPI?

William

-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Anyway to use Microsoft Work format, and still can see the attachment
after openning the mail item?

This happen to only one of my mail item. Other mail item doesn't have
any problem of viewing the attachment.

If it's only happen to certain mail item, then a lot of arguement will
happen among the sender and recipient, on NOT sending the attachment by
sender, if the recipient cann't see any attachment after opening the
mail item.


 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Ya.  The feature doesn't work.


-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Hi,
I'm using MS Outlook 98. The user send me 2 Excel files as attachment to
the email. However, I cann't see any attachment inside when I double
click to open the mail item. This only happen to 1 of my mail items.

However, If i change the mail format to Microsoft Outlook Rich Text,
by select Tools - Options - Mail Formats, then double click to
open the mail item, I can see the 2 attachments. Before that, I'm using
Microsoft Work mail format.

I used to Microsoft Work format due to some advange of the features.
Any ideas of what happen to my MS Outlook 98?

 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034
 

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Restoring Problem

[Jason Dwyer]

Hi all,
I am having a major drama with a restore at the moment.  I have
obtained a complete backup tape and using the Backup Exec 8.6 method of
installing Win2K on a clean box, then bexec 8.6.  All cool to that point.
The machine is the same name as the original and the drive sizes are larger
than before and all NTFS.  I can restore the C+D drives, but cannot restore
the system state... which brings me to the fact that I can't restore
exchange...

I have also tried redirected restores to different servers in differnet
domain and can't get anywhere.  does anyone have any other ideas.  I have
spent days on this already.

Regards,

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RE: Migration headaches - HELP!!!

[Garland Mac Neill]

Title: Message









Yep, its the only app.



P3 900, 256MB RAM, 30 GB HDD with 15 GB
free



Yep, has the same issue when he tries from
his desktop. 

 P3
500 256 MB Ram , 60 GB HDD



-Original Message-
From: Precht, David
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Migration headaches -
HELP!!!





Is this the only app that bombs ?





What are the specs on the laptop ?





Does he have the same issue when logging onto another
PC or laptop ?





-Original Message-
From: Garland Mac Neill
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 14:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Migration headaches -
HELP!!!

I have a few minor issues that
causing me royal headaches. 



I have one user, who whenever he opens
Outlook blows up his laptop (new laptop, XP, Outlook 2002). By blowing up, I
mean it axes his user account. He has to do a system restore to bring it back.
It started off slowly, at first he couldn't open up calendars. Now he just
opens Outlook and it bombs. He was recently moved from Exchange 5.5 to E2K.



The other issues are, my address
book populates when it feels like. Meaning, I open the address book and it
displays the address book or it doesn't. I restart Outlook and it fixes itself.
I'm thinking this is a replication issue. In addition when I open a Outlook (w/
a mailbox on 2000) try and view a calendar in a mailbox that is on Exchange
5.5, I can't view it. However I can view a mailbox calendar that is located on
2000 from a 5.5 mailbox. 



Any help is GREATLY appreciated...



Garland Mac Neill

Systems
Administrator

Solbourne

Office 303-402-2704

Cell 303-641-7574

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item

[cslee]

MAPI


 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


What protocol are external clients using?  MAPI, IMAP, POP3?

-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Of cause I can advise all internal users to use HTML or plain text only.
However, how about the EXTERNAL user, if they are using some others
format?

Email client of sender and recipient is MS Outlook 98. They are
connecting to Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5, SP4.


 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Anyway to use Microsoft Work format, and still can see the
attachment after openning the mail item?

I have users send with HTML or plain text only.  It cures almost all
these attachment issues.

What version email client and how are you connecting?  MAPI?

William

-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Anyway to use Microsoft Work format, and still can see the attachment
after openning the mail item?

This happen to only one of my mail item. Other mail item doesn't have
any problem of viewing the attachment.

If it's only happen to certain mail item, then a lot of arguement will
happen among the sender and recipient, on NOT sending the attachment by
sender, if the recipient cann't see any attachment after opening the
mail item.


 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Ya.  The feature doesn't work.


-Original Message-
From: cslee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Can't see the attachment when opening the mail item


Hi,
I'm using MS Outlook 98. The user send me 2 Excel files as attachment to
the email. However, I cann't see any attachment inside when I double
click to open the mail item. This only happen to 1 of my mail items.

However, If i change the mail format to Microsoft Outlook Rich Text,
by select Tools - Options - Mail Formats, then double click to
open the mail item, I can see the 2 attachments. Before that, I'm using
Microsoft Work mail format.

I used to Microsoft Work format due to some advange of the features.
Any ideas of what happen to my MS Outlook 98?

 Regards,
 Lee Choon Sim
 IT Department
 Tel: +604-6321000 ext 1760
 DID Tel: +604-6321760
 Fax: +604-6321034
 

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Shortcut key to insert date

[Jeramy Eling]

Hi All,

One of my users has asked if it's possible to insert the current date into an email 
message using a hotkey sequence. I've searched around and can't find anything, does 
anyone know if this is possible?

Cheers

Jez.


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RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Snook, Kevin S (ITD)]

Yes, it's possible.

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 11:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Shortcut key to insert date


Hi All,

One of my users has asked if it's possible to insert the current date into
an email message using a hotkey sequence. I've searched around and can't
find anything, does anyone know if this is possible?

Cheers

Jez.


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RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Jeramy Eling]

Go on then, how do we do it?

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Yes, it's possible.

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 11:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Shortcut key to insert date


Hi All,

One of my users has asked if it's possible to insert the current date into
an email message using a hotkey sequence. I've searched around and can't
find anything, does anyone know if this is possible?

Cheers

Jez.


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RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Snook, Kevin S (ITD)]

You'll have to ask more politely than that!

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Go on then, how do we do it?

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Yes, it's possible.

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 11:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Shortcut key to insert date


Hi All,

One of my users has asked if it's possible to insert the current date into
an email message using a hotkey sequence. I've searched around and can't
find anything, does anyone know if this is possible?

Cheers

Jez.


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RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Jeramy Eling]

Ok, I'll rephrase it, please could let me have the method for inserting the current 
date into an email...

{:o)

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


You'll have to ask more politely than that!

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Go on then, how do we do it?

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Yes, it's possible.

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 11:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Shortcut key to insert date


Hi All,

One of my users has asked if it's possible to insert the current date into
an email message using a hotkey sequence. I've searched around and can't
find anything, does anyone know if this is possible?

Cheers

Jez.


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RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Snook, Kevin S (ITD)]

Jeramy,

I should have asked which version of OL are you using?

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Ok, I'll rephrase it, please could let me have the method for inserting the
current date into an email...

{:o)

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


You'll have to ask more politely than that!

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Go on then, how do we do it?

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Yes, it's possible.

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 11:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Shortcut key to insert date


Hi All,

One of my users has asked if it's possible to insert the current date into
an email message using a hotkey sequence. I've searched around and can't
find anything, does anyone know if this is possible?

Cheers

Jez.


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RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Jeramy Eling]

2000

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 13:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Jeramy,

I should have asked which version of OL are you using?

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Ok, I'll rephrase it, please could let me have the method for inserting the
current date into an email...

{:o)

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


You'll have to ask more politely than that!

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Go on then, how do we do it?

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Yes, it's possible.

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 11:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Shortcut key to insert date


Hi All,

One of my users has asked if it's possible to insert the current date into
an email message using a hotkey sequence. I've searched around and can't
find anything, does anyone know if this is possible?

Cheers

Jez.


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RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Snook, Kevin S (ITD)]

Look at Q252426 and Q252427 in the MSKB.

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


2000

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 13:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Jeramy,

I should have asked which version of OL are you using?

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Ok, I'll rephrase it, please could let me have the method for inserting the
current date into an email...

{:o)

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


You'll have to ask more politely than that!

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Go on then, how do we do it?

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Yes, it's possible.

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 11:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Shortcut key to insert date


Hi All,

One of my users has asked if it's possible to insert the current date into
an email message using a hotkey sequence. I've searched around and can't
find anything, does anyone know if this is possible?

Cheers

Jez.


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RE: Restoring Problem

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Is this a DC? What version of Exchange are you running? If you are naming the server 
the same name as before did you remove it from AD? 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Restoring Problem


Hi all,
I am having a major drama with a restore at the moment.  I have
obtained a complete backup tape and using the Backup Exec 8.6 method of
installing Win2K on a clean box, then bexec 8.6.  All cool to that point.
The machine is the same name as the original and the drive sizes are larger
than before and all NTFS.  I can restore the C+D drives, but cannot restore
the system state... which brings me to the fact that I can't restore
exchange...

I have also tried redirected restores to different servers in differnet
domain and can't get anywhere.  does anyone have any other ideas.  I have
spent days on this already.

Regards,

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RE: For Kevin Miller

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2 days in a row and the conversations are still about Don's backside.

Scrubbing the brain just isn't working - time to drown it.

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-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

I didn't say MCSE's don't know their shit.  I am an MCSE and I most
certainly know my shit.  It's the paper one's that don't know shit (e.g. the
ones with the cert and no background to speak of).

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Jeez, there just is such extreme bias out there. Why can't people just be
objective and look at things the way they really are? Instead we enjoy
lumping a group of people together, then stereotyping. Suffice it to say,
there are MCSE's who know less than non-MCSE's and MCSE's that know more. It
all depends on who you get. If you do your job interviewing the candidate,
shouldn't even be an issue. To say that all MCSE's don't know $hit is
asinine. 

Yes, I have met many MCSE's who didn't know their a$$ from a hole in the
ground but I have met several who knew their stuff as well.


-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Agreed that many MCSEs are paper, and worthless, but cert is still
valuable, especially those in other areas. If you can prove your worth AND
have the title, I think it is worthwhile.

BTW I have an acquaintance who is a lawyer who decided to get his
MCSE. He got it in 6 months, and then tried to get a job. He is still
looking 1.5 years later. I started looking at the same time (I was an MCP at
the time I believe) and was hired within a month. Experience should always
be top priority. I would not hire him to install an OS on a WS, much less
plug in all the color coded wires (because, you know, now they color code
all the keyboard and...oh nevermind. 

PS He is a suck a$$ lawyer too 

-Original Message- 
From: Majetic, John RAME [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:14 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller 


For about 6 months I had the pleasure of working with a MCSE that
didn't know how to install a printer on a windows box! He would format hard
drives, and then asked me where all the users files went, and how did he get
them back? That was when I decided that MCSEs are only good for fooling
clueless CIOs like my boss.

  
There is one good use for them, and that is comic relief when doing
interviews. 
  
I would ask them What DHCP was. they would respond with Dynamic
Host Configuration Protocol, and claim they were experts, and knew
everything about it. I would then ask them very detailed questions, like how
do you configure it to hand out a WINS server address, and what is the scope
in DHCP? It was great fun watching them squirm. Try it sometime.

  
PS The guy who got the job was the guy who said I don't know to the
most questions, didn't have any certs, and he is working out great.

  
John 

-Original Message- 
From: Ely, Don [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller 


I have a great sense of humour provided someone works for a cert
instead of this cramming crap, taking a test, and calling yourself
certified.  Too many paper MCSE's out there and those paper MCSE's don't
know their a$$ from a hole in the ground.

-Original Message- 
From: Bunting, Jeff [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller 


someone leave their sense of humor at home today? 

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From: Ely, Don [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller 


You can keep thinking that...  Just pray you never apply for a 

RE: Outlook 2000 Contacts

[Brien Mayer]

TOOLS/SERVICES click the addressing tab
click add where it says When sending mail check names using these address list. Also 
on this page are other settings you are going to want to set. I'm sure you can figure 
it out. If you click add  you don't see the contact list you are going to want to 
right click on the contact list its self choose properties  one of the tab will have 
a box saying show in address list

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To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outllok 2000 Contacts


In Outlook 2000 running on Windows 2000, when you click New (message) and
then click To:, it says that the file associated with this address book is
missing. All the contacts are in the contacts file. How do I re-associate
the contacts with the address book, or make the Contacts the addresss book?

Thanks

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RE: For Kevin Miller

[MJOHNSON]

Title: Message



I'm 
with you on that.


  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  Well, where are these high paying jobs at. I'm underpaid! I 
  want some of that "cheese"! :o)
  

-Original Message-From: Schwartz, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller
Like I said. I've seen contracts for a whole hell of a lot more than 
that. I think the largest I've seen was $525 an hour plus expenses. If you 
were talking salary then 150hrx hours x 52 weeks = $312,000.00. Add in 
about 45% for benefits and taxes = $452,400.00 in salary costs. Not worth 
that. No offense to Don or anyone else.

  
  -Original Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  
  I 
  am not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I was talking about your 
  authority to hire him or somebody like 
  him.
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  
  You're cheap. [1] 
  [2]
  
  [1] 
  Chorus: But not easy!
  [2] 
  For someone like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would be 
  a bargain.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  Something wrong 
  with charging $150 an hour? That's my usual going rate... 
  :o)
  -Original 
  Message-From: Mal 
  Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:40 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  Then you must be 
  having authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he will 
  be charging J
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  And those of us 
  with hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and 
  decide who is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how 
  to fix broke a$$ sh!t.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  I have a great 
  sense of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming 
  crap, taking a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper 
  MCSE's out there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole 
  in the ground.
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Bunting, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  someone leave 
  their sense of humor at home today?
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  You can keep 
  thinking that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm hiring 
  for. 

  Don 
  Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then 
  some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  It never matters 
  HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. 
  Sheesh
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  We, unlike you, 
  didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world knowledge 
  that we've learned over the years...
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  what cram site 
  did you guys use ;) ?
  -Original 
  Message-From: Paul 
  Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
  13:09To: MS-Exchange 
  Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  For Kevin Miller
  I got him 
  certified in 

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Snook, Kevin S (ITD)]

Title: Message



Sorry, 
I've taken them all!

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 06 June 2002 03:06To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  I'm 
  with you on that.
  
  
-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
6:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
Well, where are these high paying jobs at. I'm underpaid! 
I want some of that "cheese"! :o)

  
  -Original Message-From: Schwartz, 
  Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 
  2002 5:08 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  For Kevin Miller
  Like I said. I've seen contracts for a whole hell of a lot more 
  than that. I think the largest I've seen was $525 an hour plus expenses. 
  If you were talking salary then 150hrx hours x 52 weeks = 
  $312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits and taxes = $452,400.00 in 
  salary costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don or anyone 
  else.
  

-Original Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
4:53 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
For Kevin Miller

I 
am not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I was talking about 
your authority to hire him or somebody like 
him.

-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller

You're cheap. 
[1] [2]

[1] Chorus: But 
not easy!
[2] For someone 
like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would be a 
bargain.
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, 
Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
Something wrong 
with charging $150 an hour? That's my usual going rate... 
:o)
-Original 
Message-From: Mal 
Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:40 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
Then you must 
be having authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he 
will be charging J
-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
And those of us 
with hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and 
decide who is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how 
to fix broke a$$ sh!t.
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, 
Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
I have a great 
sense of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this 
cramming crap, taking a test, and calling yourself certified. Too 
many paper MCSE's out there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ 
from a hole in the ground.
-Original 
Message-From: 
Bunting, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
someone leave 
their sense of humor at home today?
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, 
Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
You can keep 
thinking that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm 
hiring for. 

Don Ely - 
NMBOTWBAS and then 
some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original 
Message-From: 
Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
It never 
matters HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. 
Sheesh
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, 
Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
12:56 PMTo: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller
We, unlike you, 
didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world knowledge 
that we've learned over the years...
-Original 

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Kent, Larry SYNETICS]

Title: Message



crack?That might explain this whole thread!!

  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:57 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  I know this... That wasn't what my crack was 
  referencing... There are a few people here that probably understand 
  where I was going with that though... ;o)
  

-Original Message-From: Bunting, Jeff 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:17 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller
ummm, the original "cram site" question was about the coveted UCC+WCA 
cert. :-)

-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
3:03 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller

  Well give me some sarcasm tags next time... :P You should 
  knowas well as I do how hard it is to read expressions through 
  email. 
  
  
  Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then 
  some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-Original Message-From: Matthew 
Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 
05, 2002 2:38 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin Miller
Main Entry: sar·casm Pronunciation: 
'sär-"ka-zmFunction: noun
2 a : a mode of satirical wit 
depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language 
that is usually directed against an individual b : the use 
or language of sarcasm this is no time to indulge in 
sarcasm

  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 
  2002 1:29 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: For Kevin Miller
  You can keep thinking that... Just pray you never apply 
  for a job that I'm hiring for. 
  Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then 
  some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-Original Message-From: 
Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin Miller
It never 
matters HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. 
Sheesh

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 
  05, 2002 12:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller
  We, unlike you, didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We 
  actually use real world knowledge that we've learned over the 
  years...
  

-Original 
Message-From: Precht, David 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
June 05, 2002 1:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller
what cram site did you guys use ;) 
?
-Original 
Message-From: Paul Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 13:09To: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller

  I got him certified in UCC+WCA.
  
-Original 
Message-From: Matthew Carpenter 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Posted At: 
Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:08 AMPosted To: 
Exchange 2000 ServerConversation: For Kevin 
MillerSubject: For Kevin 
Miller
Would you mind enlightening us on 
what all that crap is after your name? Is that just a jab at 
the "certified" world, or are those real? I can not find 
anything on them in Google. (I had 2 minutes to spare to 
look)
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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Schwartz, Jim]

Title: Message



He was 
an IBM Global Services guy and knew Cobol like he wrote the language. During 
Y2K, they would pay anyone who could write code some serious cake. The reason 
that the CIO's and CTO's make the $300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the 
medical care they need to have after having the lobotomy and spine removal 
surgeries.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
  9:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  Well, where are these high paying jobs at. I'm underpaid! I 
  want some of that "cheese"! :o)
  

-Original Message-From: Schwartz, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller
Like I said. I've seen contracts for a whole hell of a lot more than 
that. I think the largest I've seen was $525 an hour plus expenses. If you 
were talking salary then 150hrx hours x 52 weeks = $312,000.00. Add in 
about 45% for benefits and taxes = $452,400.00 in salary costs. Not worth 
that. No offense to Don or anyone else.

  
  -Original Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  
  I 
  am not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I was talking about your 
  authority to hire him or somebody like 
  him.
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  
  You're cheap. [1] 
  [2]
  
  [1] 
  Chorus: But not easy!
  [2] 
  For someone like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would be 
  a bargain.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  Something wrong 
  with charging $150 an hour? That's my usual going rate... 
  :o)
  -Original 
  Message-From: Mal 
  Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:40 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  Then you must be 
  having authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he will 
  be charging J
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  And those of us 
  with hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and 
  decide who is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how 
  to fix broke a$$ sh!t.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  I have a great 
  sense of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming 
  crap, taking a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper 
  MCSE's out there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole 
  in the ground.
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Bunting, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  someone leave 
  their sense of humor at home today?
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  You can keep 
  thinking that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm hiring 
  for. 

  Don 
  Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then 
  some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  It never matters 
  HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. 
  Sheesh
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  We, unlike you, 
  didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world knowledge 
  that we've learned over the years...
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 

RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Snook, Kevin S (ITD)]

Jeramy,

To add: You'll need the following code in your macro. Use a function called
AddDate with:

On Error Resume Next
Set myItem = ThisOutlookSession.ActiveInspector.CurrentItem
myItem.Body = Now  vbCrLf  vbCrLf  myItem.Body

Rename the Key to Add Date and you will be able to use the Alt-D
combination to add the date.

Talk to me (politely) if you need any help. 

Kevin


Look at Q252426 and Q252427 in the MSKB.

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


2000

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 13:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Jeramy,

I should have asked which version of OL are you using?

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Ok, I'll rephrase it, please could let me have the method for inserting the
current date into an email...

{:o)

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


You'll have to ask more politely than that!

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Go on then, how do we do it?

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Yes, it's possible.

-Original Message-
From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 11:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Shortcut key to insert date


Hi All,

One of my users has asked if it's possible to insert the current date into
an email message using a hotkey sequence. I've searched around and can't
find anything, does anyone know if this is possible?

Cheers

Jez.


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RE: backup Server

[Bill Beckett]

Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and has NT on it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join the site and then
replicate emails from the original server to the backup server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?


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RE: Exchange 2000 migration issues

[Crosby, Tim (Sarcom)]

Title: Message



Thanks 
William, that's exactly what I was looking for.

  
  -Original Message-From: William 
  Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 
  05, 2002 7:52 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Exchange 2000 migration issues
  There is a specific whitepaper on the 
  process:
  http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/deployment/2000/UpgradeFolders.asp
  
  1) 
  create public folder agreement (which is two way) in ADC.
  2) 
  configure permissions and removebad accounts.
  3) 
  set replicas to migrate data
  
  Rehoming and removal of 5.5 are covered in the 
  migration docs as well.
  In 
  Exchange2000, you can rehome by top level folder and 
  propogate:
  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q288150
  
  And 
  don't forget the chats on June 19:
  http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/itcommunity/chats/default.asp
  
  William
  
  

-Original Message-From: Crosby, Tim 
(Sarcom) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 
05, 2002 4:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: Exchange 2000 migration issues

Thanks William, we 
are planning to get rid of 5.5 as soon as we feel like the 2000 Server is 
running OK. What is the easiest 
way to get the public folders moved over? Right now, we are going into each 
folder and setting it to replicate to E2k, but then we'll wait until it has 
replicated and go back in and remove it from E55. But don't you also then have to set 
the "home server" for each folder to be the new E2k? Isn't there a simpler way than going 
into properties on each folder and doing this? 

-Original 
Message-From: William 
Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:18 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
Exchange 2000 migration issues


The 
requirement of patience can not be 
underestimated.



Use 
the E2K tools to admin E2K and the 5.5 tools to admin 
5.5.



If 
it's single server, single site, minimize co-existence. Get the 
mailboxes and public folders moved then free yourself of the ADCand 
5.5.


-Original 
  Message-From: 
  Crosby, Tim (Sarcom) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 8:15 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Exchange 
  2000 migration issues
  We are in the middle of 
  migrating our single site, single server organization over to Exchange 
  2000. We have setup the ADC and run ForestPrep. Everything 
  seems cool so far. All accounts seem to be syncing in AD. We 
  are at the point now where we are going to build the E2k box, join the 5.5 
  site and start moving mailboxes. What I'd like to know is what to 
  look out for once users are moved over. What should we test 
  specifically to make sure that the moved mailboxes work? I have a 
  few obvious ones in mind, check sending and receiving internet mail, check 
  calendar availability, GAL, sending from E2k to E5.5, etc. Is there 
  a list of all the things you should test in order to make sure the E2k box 
  is working properly? What problems have you all run into when moving 
  to E2k?
  Thanks, 
  
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RE: Oh man you are kidding...

[Erik Sojka]

And if so, what OS and SP?

 -Original Message-
 From: Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Oh man you are kidding...
 
 
 Why do you use OE?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Peck DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 16:52
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Oh man you are kidding...
 
 
 And once again the convenience vs. security debate is launched.
 
 The downside of Outlook was it's ability to execute some 
 script attacks from
 the preview pane.  This is solved somewhat in later versions 
 and patches.
 And is defeated through a percentage of end-users inability 
 to control their
 double-click.  ANY OS that has file execution associations 
 can be hit by a
 virus.  Both KDE and GNOME are building this functionality into their
 interface and as such will also be subject to this kind of attack.
 
 It is more effectively solved by preventing the executable 
 type files from
 passing through your server in the first place.  If someone 
 wants to email
 an executable, they can zip it.  At least then it is a two 
 stage process for
 infection and the local desktop anti-virus sw has a shot at 
 the new virus
 that your Exchange servers anti-virus missed.  Even if an end user is
 infected (floppy, etc) they mail bomb's their own email box 
 as the server
 refuses to send those attachment types internally as well.  I 
 have yet to
 see a legitimate reason to email an scr file in a corporate 
 environment. :)
 
 If it is vbs or js, then the developer can rename it as txt 
 and assume that
 the recipient can rename it to vbs or js.
 
 As to alternative's to Outlook in asked about in another 
 message. You can
 use Eudora, Netscape Mail, Pine, etc (POP3 or IMAP).. You 
 just LOSE the
 Email/Calendaring integration function which is the primary 
 appeal of the
 Exchange server in a business environment.
 
 Of course, I am aware of a company that has an Exchange 
 server and uses
 Outlook Express!?
 
 -sp
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:33 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Oh man you are kidding...
 
 
  It is what happens when people insist on using Outlook as their MUA.
 
 BS! You can get any type of virus if you open a mail and 
 execute an attached
 file.
 
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5.5 Standard to Enterprise

[Scot Parsons]

Are the client 
licenses for 5.5 Standard the same for 5.5 Enterprise? In other words, if I 
upgrade to Enterprise do I need to buy new CALs if I'm not moving to Exchange 
2000?

Also, does anyone 
have any tips for this upgrade? It seems pretty 
straightforward.

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Cant uninstall Exchange 2k

[Ryan McBride]

Hey all, get the following message when i try and uninstall Exchange 2k.
Error Message
Setup failed while  (error 0x80005000: An invalid ADSI pathname was
passed.) .

Additional information:
An invalid ADSI pathname was passed.

ID no: 80005000
Microsoft Exchange Setup

Microsoft Exchange Messaging and Collaboration Services


Function:
ScGetCurrentFlavorOfSetupInstalled
CCompServer::ScPreSetup
CComExchSetupComponent(%s)::PreInstall
/Error Message

I cant work out what the problem is, going through the log file for the
setup program, it has entries stating that SMTP  NNTP arnt installed and
it cant remove them, however it is installed. Ive tried doing a Setup
/forestprep or /domainprep as well and then trying to do a remove install
but it still dont work. Im out of ideas here and i need to get it back up
and running, a total rebuild if the box  AD isnt what i had in mind!!

Any advice would be well appreciated. Technet turned up dry as well.

Thanx all

Ryan

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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Matthew Carpenter]

Title: Message



Earlier someone 
mentioned a story about a kid saying that 60-90K was too low for OCPs, and he 
thought the kid was naive. Although I do agree that many kids go in with much 
higher $$ thoughts these days, instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't 
think that 60-90K is all that high either. It all depends on your market, 
experience, and abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a job that 
paid 3 times what I make here, simply due to market differences. Keep in mind 
that I makeabout $4.25/hourhere on the Tex-Mex border 
though...jk

  
  -Original Message-From: Schwartz, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  He 
  was an IBM Global Services guy and knew Cobol like he wrote the language. 
  During Y2K, they would pay anyone who could write code some serious cake. The 
  reason that the CIO's and CTO's make the $300k - $600k kind of money is due to 
  all the medical care they need to have after having the lobotomy and spine 
  removal surgeries.
  

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
9:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
Well, where are these high paying jobs at. I'm underpaid! 
I want some of that "cheese"! :o)

  
  -Original Message-From: Schwartz, 
  Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 
  2002 5:08 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  For Kevin Miller
  Like I said. I've seen contracts for a whole hell of a lot more 
  than that. I think the largest I've seen was $525 an hour plus expenses. 
  If you were talking salary then 150hrx hours x 52 weeks = 
  $312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits and taxes = $452,400.00 in 
  salary costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don or anyone 
  else.
  

-Original Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
4:53 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
For Kevin Miller

I 
am not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I was talking about 
your authority to hire him or somebody like 
him.

-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller

You're cheap. 
[1] [2]

[1] Chorus: But 
not easy!
[2] For someone 
like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would be a 
bargain.
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, 
Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
Something wrong 
with charging $150 an hour? That's my usual going rate... 
:o)
-Original 
Message-From: Mal 
Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:40 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
Then you must 
be having authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he 
will be charging J
-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
And those of us 
with hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and 
decide who is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how 
to fix broke a$$ sh!t.
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, 
Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
I have a great 
sense of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this 
cramming crap, taking a test, and calling yourself certified. Too 
many paper MCSE's out there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ 
from a hole in the ground.
-Original 
Message-From: 
Bunting, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
someone leave 
their sense of humor at home today?
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, 
Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller
You can keep 
thinking that... Just pray you never apply for 

Cant uninstall Exchange 2k

[Ryan McBride]

Hey all, get the following message when i try and uninstall Exchange 2k.
Error Message
Setup failed while  (error 0x80005000: An invalid ADSI pathname was passed.)
.

Additional information:
An invalid ADSI pathname was passed.

ID no: 80005000
Microsoft Exchange Setup

Microsoft Exchange Messaging and Collaboration Services


Function:
ScGetCurrentFlavorOfSetupInstalled
CCompServer::ScPreSetup
CComExchSetupComponent(%s)::PreInstall
/Error Message

I cant work out what the problem is, going through the log file for the
setup program, it has entries stating that SMTP  NNTP arnt installed and it
cant remove them, however it is installed. Ive tried doing a Setup
/forestprep or /domainprep as well and then trying to do a remove install
but it still dont work. Im out of ideas here and i need to get it back up
and running, a total rebuild if the box  AD isnt what i had in mind!!

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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Bill Beckett]

Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no question...but overall a
kid coming out of school expecting to make that amount is a bit ridiculous

-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a kid saying that 60-90K was
too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was naive. Although I do agree that
many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts these days, instead of the love
of protocols (JK), I don't think that 60-90K is all that high either. It all
depends on your market, experience, and abilities. Market is a huge factor.
I was offered a job that paid 3 times what I make here, simply due to market
differences. Keep in mind that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex
border though...jk
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He was an IBM Global Services guy and knew Cobol like he
wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay anyone who could write code
some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's and CTO's make the $300k -
$600k kind of money is due to all the medical care they need to have after
having the lobotomy and spine removal surgeries.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Well, where are these high paying jobs at.  I'm
underpaid!  I want some of that cheese!  :o)
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Like I said. I've seen contracts for a whole
hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest I've seen was $525 an hour
plus expenses. If you were talking salary then 150hr x hours x 52 weeks =
$312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits and taxes = $452,400.00 in salary
costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don or anyone else.
-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


I am not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's
worth. I was talking about your authority to hire him or somebody like him.
 
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
You're cheap. [1] [2]
 
[1] Chorus: But not easy!
[2] For someone like Don, who I KNOW has the
experience $150 an hour would be a bargain.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
Something wrong with charging $150 an hour?
That's my usual going rate...  :o)
-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
Then you must be having authority to pay
$150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he will be charging :-)
-Original Message-

RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Ryan Gorman]

Is there a list we should use to ask Outlook questions (because I need a
macro extracts the conversation topic from mails viewed in conversation
view).

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

Jeramy,

To add: You'll need the following code in your macro. Use a function called
AddDate with:

On Error Resume Next
Set myItem = ThisOutlookSession.ActiveInspector.CurrentItem
myItem.Body = Now  vbCrLf  vbCrLf  myItem.Body

Rename the Key to Add Date and you will be able to use the Alt-D
combination to add the date.

Talk to me (politely) if you need any help. 

Kevin


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RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Snook, Kevin S (ITD)]

Ryan,

Firstly, macros aren't that difficult. Sit down with an OOM reference and
you should be coding away with ease before too long.

Secondly, you can ask me (or Siegfried) on this list or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] where the great Sue Mosher (as well as the great
Mr Weber) hang out. 

Kevin
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Is there a list we should use to ask Outlook questions (because I need a
macro extracts the conversation topic from mails viewed in conversation
view).

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

Jeramy,

To add: You'll need the following code in your macro. Use a function called
AddDate with:

On Error Resume Next
Set myItem = ThisOutlookSession.ActiveInspector.CurrentItem
myItem.Body = Now  vbCrLf  vbCrLf  myItem.Body

Rename the Key to Add Date and you will be able to use the Alt-D
combination to add the date.

Talk to me (politely) if you need any help. 

Kevin


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RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Snook, Kevin S (ITD)]

What do you need to do exactly? How do you wish to display the conversation
topic id?

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Is there a list we should use to ask Outlook questions (because I need a
macro extracts the conversation topic from mails viewed in conversation
view).

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

Jeramy,

To add: You'll need the following code in your macro. Use a function called
AddDate with:

On Error Resume Next
Set myItem = ThisOutlookSession.ActiveInspector.CurrentItem
myItem.Body = Now  vbCrLf  vbCrLf  myItem.Body

Rename the Key to Add Date and you will be able to use the Alt-D
combination to add the date.

Talk to me (politely) if you need any help. 

Kevin


Look at Q252426 and Q252427 in the MSKB.


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RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Ray Zorz]

www.slipstick.com = there's a user list and a developer list.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 6:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shortcut key to insert date


Is there a list we should use to ask Outlook questions (because I need a
macro extracts the conversation topic from mails viewed in conversation
view).

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

Jeramy,

To add: You'll need the following code in your macro. Use a function
called AddDate with:

On Error Resume Next
Set myItem = ThisOutlookSession.ActiveInspector.CurrentItem
myItem.Body = Now  vbCrLf  vbCrLf  myItem.Body

Rename the Key to Add Date and you will be able to use the Alt-D
combination to add the date.

Talk to me (politely) if you need any help. 

Kevin


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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Snook, Kevin S (ITD)]

Do hiring people still talk about the T shape candidate. This doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it might. It refers to the
fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a broad experience of different
technologies with in-depth knowledge of one or maybe two technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left college (but that was some
time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no question...but overall a
kid coming out of school expecting to make that amount is a bit ridiculous

-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a kid saying that 60-90K was
too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was naive. Although I do agree that
many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts these days, instead of the love
of protocols (JK), I don't think that 60-90K is all that high either. It all
depends on your market, experience, and abilities. Market is a huge factor.
I was offered a job that paid 3 times what I make here, simply due to market
differences. Keep in mind that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex
border though...jk
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He was an IBM Global Services guy and knew Cobol like he
wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay anyone who could write code
some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's and CTO's make the $300k -
$600k kind of money is due to all the medical care they need to have after
having the lobotomy and spine removal surgeries.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Well, where are these high paying jobs at.  I'm
underpaid!  I want some of that cheese!  :o)
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Like I said. I've seen contracts for a whole
hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest I've seen was $525 an hour
plus expenses. If you were talking salary then 150hr x hours x 52 weeks =
$312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits and taxes = $452,400.00 in salary
costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don or anyone else.
-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


I am not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's
worth. I was talking about your authority to hire him or somebody like him.
 
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
You're cheap. [1] [2]
 
[1] Chorus: But not easy!
[2] For someone like Don, who I KNOW has the
experience $150 an hour would be a bargain.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
Something wrong with charging $150 an hour?
That's my usual going rate...  :o)
  

RE: Cant uninstall Exchange 2k

[Ely, Don]

Hey there Mr. High Impotence.  Have you considered going to technet and
querying your error.  I got about 20 hits on the error number alone...

Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Ryan McBride [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Cant uninstall Exchange 2k
Importance: High


Hey all, get the following message when i try and uninstall Exchange 2k.
Error Message Setup failed while  (error 0x80005000: An invalid ADSI
pathname was passed.) .

Additional information:
An invalid ADSI pathname was passed.

ID no: 80005000
Microsoft Exchange Setup

Microsoft Exchange Messaging and Collaboration Services


Function:
ScGetCurrentFlavorOfSetupInstalled
CCompServer::ScPreSetup
CComExchSetupComponent(%s)::PreInstall
/Error Message

I cant work out what the problem is, going through the log file for the
setup program, it has entries stating that SMTP  NNTP arnt installed and it
cant remove them, however it is installed. Ive tried doing a Setup
/forestprep or /domainprep as well and then trying to do a remove install
but it still dont work. Im out of ideas here and i need to get it back up
and running, a total rebuild if the box  AD isnt what i had in mind!!

Any advice would be well appreciated. Technet turned up dry as well.

Thanx all

Ryan



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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Ray Zorz]

Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and they want
experience, and they want to pay as little as possible.  And they'll be
able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple of recruiters who are
seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making $70-$80k applying for $40k
jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center out here, and
supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50 positions.
Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700 resumes for a position.
Some company that is apparently doing a very large w2k migration has
been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people with certs because
they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.  

Someday, the economy will come back, and all the underpaid folks will
jump to better paying jobs. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Do hiring people still talk about the T shape candidate. This doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it might. It refers to
the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a broad experience of
different technologies with in-depth knowledge of one or maybe two
technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left college (but that was
some time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no question...but overall
a kid coming out of school expecting to make that amount is a bit
ridiculous

-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a kid saying that 60-90K
was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was naive. Although I do
agree that many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts these days,
instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think that 60-90K is all
that high either. It all depends on your market, experience, and
abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a job that paid 3
times what I make here, simply due to market differences. Keep in mind
that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex border though...jk
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He was an IBM Global Services guy and knew Cobol like he
wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay anyone who could write
code some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's and CTO's make the
$300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the medical care they need to
have after having the lobotomy and spine removal surgeries.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Well, where are these high paying jobs at.  I'm
underpaid!  I want some of that cheese!  :o)
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Like I said. I've seen contracts for a
whole
hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest I've seen was $525 an
hour plus expenses. If you were talking salary then 150hr x hours x 52
weeks = $312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits and taxes =
$452,400.00 in salary costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don or anyone
else.
-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


I am not cheap. I wasn't talking about
Don's
worth. I was talking about your authority to hire him or somebody like
him.
 
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL 

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Bill Beckett]

He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an IT individual
really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they salaries overall are
down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick back up to the
point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT wannabes with dollar signs
in their eyes. 

-Original Message-
From:   Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and they want
experience, and they want to pay as little as possible.  And they'll
be
able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple of recruiters who
are
seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making $70-$80k applying for
$40k
jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center out here, and
supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50 positions.
Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700 resumes for a
position.
Some company that is apparently doing a very large w2k migration has
been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people with certs
because
they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.  

Someday, the economy will come back, and all the underpaid folks
will
jump to better paying jobs. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Do hiring people still talk about the T shape candidate. This
doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it might. It refers
to
the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a broad experience
of
different technologies with in-depth knowledge of one or maybe two
technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left college (but that
was
some time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no question...but
overall
a kid coming out of school expecting to make that amount is a bit
ridiculous

-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a kid saying that
60-90K
was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was naive. Although I
do
agree that many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts these days,
instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think that 60-90K is
all
that high either. It all depends on your market, experience, and
abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a job that paid 3
times what I make here, simply due to market differences. Keep in
mind
that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex border though...jk
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He was an IBM Global Services guy and knew Cobol
like he
wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay anyone who could
write
code some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's and CTO's make the
$300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the medical care they need
to
have after having the lobotomy and spine removal surgeries.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Well, where are these high paying jobs at.
I'm
underpaid!  I want some of that cheese!  :o)
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
   

RE: For Kevin Miller

[William Lefkovics]

Wait til HP lays off the 10-15,000.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an IT individual
really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they salaries overall
are down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick back up to
the point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT wannabes with
dollar signs in their eyes. 

-Original Message-
From:   Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and they want
experience, and they want to pay as little as possible.  And
they'll be
able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple of recruiters
who are
seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making $70-$80k applying
for $40k
jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center out here,
and
supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50 positions.
Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700 resumes for a
position.
Some company that is apparently doing a very large w2k migration
has
been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people with certs
because
they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.  

Someday, the economy will come back, and all the underpaid folks
will
jump to better paying jobs. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Do hiring people still talk about the T shape candidate. This
doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it might. It
refers to
the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a broad
experience of
different technologies with in-depth knowledge of one or maybe
two
technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left college (but
that was
some time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no question...but
overall
a kid coming out of school expecting to make that amount is a
bit
ridiculous

-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a kid saying
that 60-90K
was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was naive. Although
I do
agree that many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts these
days,
instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think that 60-90K
is all
that high either. It all depends on your market, experience, and
abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a job that
paid 3
times what I make here, simply due to market differences. Keep
in mind
that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex border
though...jk
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He was an IBM Global Services guy and knew Cobol
like he
wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay anyone who could
write
code some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's and CTO's make
the
$300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the medical care they
need to
have after having the lobotomy and spine removal surgeries.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Well, where are these high paying jobs
at.
I'm
underpaid!  I want some of that cheese!  :o)
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Bill Beckett]

Yep, you'll have some highly skilled people taking those 40K jobs

-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Wait til HP lays off the 10-15,000.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an IT
individual
really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they salaries
overall
are down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick back up
to
the point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT wannabes with
dollar signs in their eyes. 

-Original Message-
From:   Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and they
want
experience, and they want to pay as little as possible.  And
they'll be
able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple of
recruiters
who are
seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making $70-$80k
applying
for $40k
jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center out
here,
and
supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50
positions.
Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700 resumes for
a
position.
Some company that is apparently doing a very large w2k
migration
has
been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people with
certs
because
they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.  

Someday, the economy will come back, and all the underpaid
folks
will
jump to better paying jobs. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Do hiring people still talk about the T shape candidate.
This
doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it might. It
refers to
the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a broad
experience of
different technologies with in-depth knowledge of one or
maybe
two
technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left college
(but
that was
some time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no
question...but
overall
a kid coming out of school expecting to make that amount is
a
bit
ridiculous

-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a kid saying
that 60-90K
was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was naive.
Although
I do
agree that many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts
these
days,
instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think that
60-90K
is all
that high either. It all depends on your market, experience,
and
abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a job that
paid 3
times what I make here, simply due to market differences.
Keep
in mind
that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex border
though...jk
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He was an IBM Global Services 

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Snook, Kevin S (ITD)]

That's a real shame! I'm off to my island in the Pacific at the end of the
year so there's no dollar signs in front of my eyes anymore just Ray-Bans!

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 15:21
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an IT individual
really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they salaries overall are
down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick back up to the
point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT wannabes with dollar signs
in their eyes. 

-Original Message-
From:   Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and they want
experience, and they want to pay as little as possible.  And they'll
be
able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple of recruiters who
are
seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making $70-$80k applying for
$40k
jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center out here, and
supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50 positions.
Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700 resumes for a
position.
Some company that is apparently doing a very large w2k migration has
been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people with certs
because
they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.  

Someday, the economy will come back, and all the underpaid folks
will
jump to better paying jobs. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Do hiring people still talk about the T shape candidate. This
doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it might. It refers
to
the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a broad experience
of
different technologies with in-depth knowledge of one or maybe two
technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left college (but that
was
some time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no question...but
overall
a kid coming out of school expecting to make that amount is a bit
ridiculous

-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a kid saying that
60-90K
was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was naive. Although I
do
agree that many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts these days,
instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think that 60-90K is
all
that high either. It all depends on your market, experience, and
abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a job that paid 3
times what I make here, simply due to market differences. Keep in
mind
that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex border though...jk
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He was an IBM Global Services guy and knew Cobol
like he
wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay anyone who could
write
code some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's and CTO's make the
$300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the medical care they need
to
have after having the lobotomy and spine removal surgeries.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Well, where are these high paying jobs at.
I'm
underpaid!  I want some of that cheese!  :o)
-Original Message-

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Snook, Kevin S (ITD)]

I thought you were talking about HP??? ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 15:33
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Yep, you'll have some highly skilled people taking those 40K jobs

-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Wait til HP lays off the 10-15,000.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an IT
individual
really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they salaries
overall
are down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick back up
to
the point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT wannabes with
dollar signs in their eyes. 

-Original Message-
From:   Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and they
want
experience, and they want to pay as little as possible.  And
they'll be
able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple of
recruiters
who are
seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making $70-$80k
applying
for $40k
jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center out
here,
and
supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50
positions.
Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700 resumes for
a
position.
Some company that is apparently doing a very large w2k
migration
has
been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people with
certs
because
they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.  

Someday, the economy will come back, and all the underpaid
folks
will
jump to better paying jobs. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Do hiring people still talk about the T shape candidate.
This
doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it might. It
refers to
the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a broad
experience of
different technologies with in-depth knowledge of one or
maybe
two
technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left college
(but
that was
some time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no
question...but
overall
a kid coming out of school expecting to make that amount is
a
bit
ridiculous

-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a kid saying
that 60-90K
was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was naive.
Although
I do
agree that many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts
these
days,
instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think that
60-90K
is all
that high either. It all depends on your market, experience,
and
abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a job that
paid 3
times what I make here, simply due to market differences.
Keep
in mind
that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex border
though...jk
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange 

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Bill Beckett]

Point

-Original Message-
From:   Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

I thought you were talking about HP??? ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 15:33
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Yep, you'll have some highly skilled people taking those 40K jobs

-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Wait til HP lays off the 10-15,000.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an
IT
individual
really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they
salaries
overall
are down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick
back up
to
the point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT
wannabes with
dollar signs in their eyes. 

-Original Message-
From:   Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and
they
want
experience, and they want to pay as little as
possible.  And
they'll be
able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple
of
recruiters
who are
seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making
$70-$80k
applying
for $40k
jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center
out
here,
and
supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50
positions.
Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700
resumes for
a
position.
Some company that is apparently doing a very large
w2k
migration
has
been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people
with
certs
because
they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.  

Someday, the economy will come back, and all the
underpaid
folks
will
jump to better paying jobs. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Do hiring people still talk about the T shape
candidate.
This
doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it
might. It
refers to
the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a
broad
experience of
different technologies with in-depth knowledge of
one or
maybe
two
technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left
college
(but
that was
some time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no
question...but
overall
a kid coming out of school expecting to make that
amount is
a
bit
ridiculous

-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

RE: Shortcut key to insert date

[Ryan Gorman]

I have a macro that creates Outlook rules based on the currently selected
email. The macro needs to extract the subject line for use within an Outlook
rule. The macro works if I expand a conversation [1] and select an
individual email. The macros fails if I just select the conversation
heading.


I've included the bit that fails [2]

[1] Viewing 'by Conversation topic'

[2]
Function GetCurrentItem() As Object
Dim objApp As Application
Dim objSel As Selection
Dim objItem As Object
   
Set objApp = CreateObject(Outlook.Application)
Select Case objApp.ActiveWindow.Class
Case olExplorer
Set objSel = objApp.ActiveExplorer.Selection
If objSel.Count  0 Then
Set objItem = objSel.Item(1)
End If
Case olInspector
Set objItem = objApp.ActiveInspector.CurrentItem
Case Else
' can't handle any other kind of window
End Select
   
Set GetCurrentItem = objItem
   
Set objItem = Nothing
Set objSel = Nothing
Set objApp = Nothing
End Function

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From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 


What do you need to do exactly? How do you wish to display the conversation
topic id?


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Re: For Kevin Miller

[mwhitton]

Try job hunting in the Houston area  :(
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Beckett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


 Point
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 I thought you were talking about HP??? ;-)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 June 2002 15:33
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 
 Yep, you'll have some highly skilled people taking those 40K jobs
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 Wait til HP lays off the 10-15,000.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:21 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 
 He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an
 IT
 individual
 really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they
 salaries
 overall
 are down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick
 back up
 to
 the point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT
 wannabes with
 dollar signs in their eyes. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and
 they
 want
 experience, and they want to pay as little as
 possible.  And
 they'll be
 able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple
 of
 recruiters
 who are
 seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making
 $70-$80k
 applying
 for $40k
 jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center
 out
 here,
 and
 supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50
 positions.
 Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700
 resumes for
 a
 position.
 Some company that is apparently doing a very large
 w2k
 migration
 has
 been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people
 with
 certs
 because
 they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.  
 
 Someday, the economy will come back, and all the
 underpaid
 folks
 will
 jump to better paying jobs. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 
 Do hiring people still talk about the T shape
 candidate.
 This
 doesn't
 refer to their physical shape although I guess it
 might. It
 refers to
 the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a
 broad
 experience of
 different technologies with in-depth knowledge of
 one or
 maybe
 two
 technologies.
 
 Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left
 college
 (but
 that was
 some time ago now!).
 
 Kevin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 
 Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no
 question...but
 overall
 a kid coming out of school expecting to make that
 amount is
 a
 bit
 ridiculous
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Carpenter
 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 Earlier someone mentioned a story about a
 kid saying
 that 60-90K
 was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was
 naive.
 Although
 I do
 agree that many kids go in with much higher $$
 thoughts
 these
 days,
 instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think
 that
 60-90K
 is all
 that high either. It all depends on your market,
 experience,
 and
 abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a
 job that
 paid 3
 times what I make here, simply due to market
 differences.
 Keep
 in mind
 that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex
 border
 though...jk
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20
 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 
 He was an IBM Global Services guy
 and knew
 Cobol
 like he
 wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay
 anyone who
 could
 write
 code some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's
 and CTO's
 make
 the
 $300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the
 medical care
 they
 need to
 have after having the lobotomy and spine removal
 surgeries.
 -Original Message-
 From: Ely, Don
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 05,
 2002 9:56
 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin
 Miller
 
 
 Well, where are these high
 paying
 jobs
 at.
 I'm
 underpaid!  I want some of that cheese!  :o)
 -Original
 Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Mal Sasalu]

Title: Message









Please contact Jim Schwartz J



-Original
Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
7:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller



Well, where are these
high paying jobs at. I'm underpaid! I want some of that
cheese! :o)

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
5:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Like I said. I've seen contracts for a
whole hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest I've seen was $525 an
hour plus expenses. If you were talking salary then 150hrx hours x 52
weeks = $312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits and taxes = $452,400.00 in
salary costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don or anyone else.

-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
4:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

I am not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I
was talking about your authority to hire him or somebody like him.



-Original
Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller



You're
cheap. [1] [2]



[1]
Chorus: But not easy!

[2] For
someone like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would be a
bargain.

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
3:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Something wrong with charging $150 an
hour? That's my usual going rate... :o)

-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
3:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Then you must be having
authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he will be charging
J

-Original
Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

And those of us with
hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and decide who
is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how to fix broke a$$
sh!t.

-Original
Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

I have a great sense of
humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming crap, taking
a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper MCSE's out there
and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole in the ground.

-Original
Message-
From: Bunting, Jeff
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

someone leave their sense
of humor at home today?

-Original
Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

You can
keep thinking that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm hiring
for. 

Don Ely
- NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original
Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

It
never matters HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. Sheesh

-Original
Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
12:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

We,
unlike you, didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world
knowledge that we've learned over the years...

-Original
Message-
From: Precht, David
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

what
cram site did you guys use ;) ?

-Original
Message-
From: Paul Green
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
13:09
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

I got
him certified in UCC+WCA.

-Original
Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Wednesday, June 05,
2002 10:08 AM
Posted To: Exchange 2000 Server
Conversation: For Kevin Miller
Subject: For Kevin Miller

Would
you mind enlightening us on what all that crap is after your name? Is that just
a jab at the certified world, or are those real? I can not find
anything on them in Google. (I had 2 minutes to spare to look)

TIA 

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Public folder security

[Blake R. Fowkes]

Title: Public folder security





I am playing around a little with security for a few of my public folders. 


If I set the permissions for a public folder so like this:


John Q User  Custom


Permission Level: Custom
x Create Items _ Folder Owner
_ Read Items  _ Folder Contact
_ Create Subfolders x Folder Visible


Edit own Delete None



This will make it so that the user can add items to the folder with no problems. However if the user make said folder the current folder it will tell them that they do not have permissions to that folder.

Is there any way that I can make the folder so that the user can place items in it but not be able to copy them from that folder into another?

I know this sounds strange but I have a manager that is being VERY paranoid right now. I am about to tell him that I can not do it.

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Outlook - Internet mail only

[Nickolaos Fotopoulos]

I have a station here that seems to only allow internet mail.  I can't seem
to get a local connection to the Exchange server setup.  I figured it was
something in the install setup, so I reinstalled outlook with everything
checked.  This didn't help either.  I've also consulted my Magic 8 Ball, and
it says Its not suppose to do that. (Thanks CDW!)  Anyone have a better
solution than my Magic 8 Ball?

Nick

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RE: Outlook - Internet mail only

[Blake R. Fowkes]

Title: RE: Outlook - Internet mail only





What version of Outlook???


Thanks,
Blake Fowkes
Waid and Associates
Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
- Muriel Strode



-Original Message-
From: Nickolaos Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook - Internet mail only



I have a station here that seems to only allow internet mail. I can't seem to get a local connection to the Exchange server setup. I figured it was something in the install setup, so I reinstalled outlook with everything checked. This didn't help either. I've also consulted my Magic 8 Ball, and it says Its not suppose to do that. (Thanks CDW!) Anyone have a better solution than my Magic 8 Ball?

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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Ely, Don]

Title: Message



Jim 
isn't too far from me actually. Then again, he and I would probably be 
fighting for his position. I like being king myself. 
:P


Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then 
some[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:59 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  
  Please 
  contact Jim Schwartz J
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  
  Well, 
  where are these high paying jobs at. I'm underpaid! I want some of 
  that "cheese"! :o)
  -Original 
  Message-From: Schwartz, 
  Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  Like I said. I've 
  seen contracts for a whole hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest 
  I've seen was $525 an hour plus expenses. If you were talking salary then 
  150hrx hours x 52 weeks = $312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits and 
  taxes = $452,400.00 in salary costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don or 
  anyone else.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  I am 
  not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I was talking about your 
  authority to hire him or somebody like 
him.
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Schwartz, 
  Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  
  You're 
  cheap. [1] [2]
  
  [1] 
  Chorus: But not easy!
  [2] For 
  someone like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would be a 
  bargain.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  Something wrong with 
  charging $150 an hour? That's my usual going rate... 
  :o)
  -Original 
  Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:40 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  Then you must be 
  having authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he will be 
  charging J
  -Original 
  Message-From: Schwartz, 
  Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  And those of us with 
  hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and decide who 
  is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how to fix broke a$$ 
  sh!t.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  I have a great sense 
  of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming crap, 
  taking a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper MCSE's out 
  there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole in the 
  ground.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Bunting, 
  Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  someone leave their 
  sense of humor at home today?
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  You can keep thinking 
  that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm hiring for. 
  Don Ely 
  - NMBOTWBAS and then 
  some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original 
  Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  It never matters HOW 
  you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. Sheesh
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  We, unlike you, 
  didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world knowledge that 
  we've learned over the years...
  -Original 
  Message-From: Precht, 
  David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  what cram site did 
  you guys use ;) ?
  -Original 
  Message-From: Paul Green 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Wednesday, June 05, 2002 13:09To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  I got him certified 
  in UCC+WCA.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Posted At: Wednesday, June 

OT: Interview Questions

[Derek Roper]

All,

Sorry for the off topic.  I am a Windows NT/2000 Sys Admin, and currently
support Exchange 5.5 In a large environment.  I have been studying and
practicing a ton for Exchange 2000.  I have an interview tomorrow for my
first Exchange 2000 Admin Positio, and was wondering if some of you could
possibly give me some pointers on what are the main things that I will
most likely be quizzed on?  I am extremely nervous and could use a little
help!!!  Thank you so much in advance!

Derek Roper
Systems Administrator
Maxager Technology, Inc.
415-482-1331
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Migration headaches - HELP!!!

[John Matteson]

If you 
go to another workstation and log in, then open outlook, does that machine go 
poof?

If not, 
the problem is not a mail issue, it's a problem on the 
laptop.

Nuke 
the laptop.. FDISK.. then reinstall from distribution media.. not Ghost.. not 
RIS.. from the real distribution media.

See 
what happens. If it works, then you probably have a bad image you are 
blowing onto the laptop.

John Matteson; Exchange 
ManagerGeac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and 
Standards(404) 239 - 2981 If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it 
would be tempting but I would have to decline, for life would no longer teach me 
anything. --Allyson Jones

  -Original Message-From: Garland Mac Neill 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:52 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Migration 
  headaches - HELP!!!
  
  I have a few minor issues that 
  causing me royal headaches. 
  
  I have one user, who whenever he 
  opens Outlook blows up his laptop (new laptop, XP, Outlook 2002). By blowing 
  up, I mean it axes his user account. He has to do a system restore to bring it 
  back. It started off slowly, at first he couldn't open up calendars. Now he 
  just opens Outlook and it bombs. He was recently moved from Exchange 5.5 to 
  E2K.
  
  The other issues are, my address book populates when it feels like. Meaning, I 
  open the address book and it displays the address book or it doesn't. I 
  restart Outlook and it fixes itself. I'm thinking this is a replication issue. 
  In addition when I open a Outlook (w/ a mailbox on 
  2000) try and view a calendar in a mailbox that is on Exchange 5.5, I can't 
  view it. However I can view a mailbox calendar that is located on 2000 from a 
  5.5 mailbox. 
  
  Any help is GREATLY 
  appreciated...
  
  Garland Mac 
  Neill
  Systems 
  Administrator
  Solbourne
  Office 
  303-402-2704
  Cell 
  303-641-7574
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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Stuart Tonge]

Try job hunting in the UK.. not easy, though our market is definately not as
saturated as yours.
There's just no jobs, and the ones there are are paying nothing for good
certs and experience.
:(




-Original Message-
From: mwhitton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: For Kevin Miller


Try job hunting in the Houston area  :(
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Beckett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


 Point
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 I thought you were talking about HP??? ;-)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 June 2002 15:33
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 
 Yep, you'll have some highly skilled people taking those 40K jobs
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 Wait til HP lays off the 10-15,000.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:21 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 
 He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an
 IT
 individual
 really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they
 salaries
 overall
 are down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick
 back up
 to
 the point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT
 wannabes with
 dollar signs in their eyes. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and
 they
 want
 experience, and they want to pay as little as
 possible.  And
 they'll be
 able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple
 of
 recruiters
 who are
 seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making
 $70-$80k
 applying
 for $40k
 jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center
 out
 here,
 and
 supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50
 positions.
 Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700
 resumes for
 a
 position.
 Some company that is apparently doing a very large
 w2k
 migration
 has
 been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people
 with
 certs
 because
 they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.  
 
 Someday, the economy will come back, and all the
 underpaid
 folks
 will
 jump to better paying jobs. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 
 Do hiring people still talk about the T shape
 candidate.
 This
 doesn't
 refer to their physical shape although I guess it
 might. It
 refers to
 the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a
 broad
 experience of
 different technologies with in-depth knowledge of
 one or
 maybe
 two
 technologies.
 
 Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left
 college
 (but
 that was
 some time ago now!).
 
 Kevin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 
 Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no
 question...but
 overall
 a kid coming out of school expecting to make that
 amount is
 a
 bit
 ridiculous
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Carpenter
 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 Earlier someone mentioned a story about a
 kid saying
 that 60-90K
 was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was
 naive.
 Although
 I do
 agree that many kids go in with much higher $$
 thoughts
 these
 days,
 instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think
 that
 60-90K
 is all
 that high either. It all depends on your market,
 experience,
 and
 abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a
 job that
 paid 3
 times what I make here, simply due to market
 differences.
 Keep
 in mind
 that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex
 border
 though...jk
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20
 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
 
 
 He was an IBM Global Services guy
 and knew
 Cobol
 like he
 wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay
 anyone who
 could
 write
 code some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's
 and CTO's
 make
 the
 $300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the
 medical care
 they
 need to
 have after having the lobotomy and spine removal
 surgeries.
 

RE: For Kevin Miller

[John Matteson]

Title: Message



HEY! Most of us here are already 
certifiable.

John Matteson; Exchange 
ManagerGeac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and 
Standards(404) 239 - 2981 If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it 
would be tempting but I would have to decline, for life would no longer teach me 
anything. --Allyson Jones

  -Original Message-From: Matthew Carpenter 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  It never matters 
  HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. 
Sheesh
  

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
12:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
We, unlike you, didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use 
real world knowledge that we've learned over the 
years...

  
  -Original Message-From: Precht, 
  David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 
  05, 2002 1:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: For Kevin Miller
  what cram site did you guys use ;) ?
  -Original Message-From: 
  Paul Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 
  2002 13:09To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  For Kevin Miller
  
I got him certified in UCC+WCA.

  -Original Message-From: Matthew Carpenter 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Posted At: Wednesday, June 05, 
  2002 10:08 AMPosted To: Exchange 2000 
  ServerConversation: For Kevin MillerSubject: For 
  Kevin Miller
  Would you mind enlightening us on what all 
  that crap is after your name? Is that just a jab at the "certified" 
  world, or are those real? I can not find anything on them in Google. 
  (I had 2 minutes to spare to look)
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RE: Oh man you are kidding...

[Steven Peck DNET]

Erk.  All you folks that get in before me.  Ahh... Pacific Standard Time...

I DON'T use Outlook Express.  I know a site where a relative works that
does.  They pay all that money for Exchange and then don't use all the
features.  It's simply appalling... Just appalling I say... :o

Oh, that would be Win9x, WinNT4 and Win2K Unknown service packs Don't
care either :) Not my site.

-sp 



-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Oh man you are kidding...


And if so, what OS and SP?

 -Original Message-
 From: Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Oh man you are kidding...
 
 
 Why do you use OE?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Peck DNET [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 16:52
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Oh man you are kidding...
 

 
 Of course, I am aware of a company that has an Exchange
 server and uses
 Outlook Express!?
 
 -sp
 
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routing wizard

[MHR(Michael Ross)]

Title: Message



we are running W2k, 
Active directory and E 5.5 sp4
i want to use the 
routing wizard to define roles for some expense report 
routing.
and i get 
this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q263024


is there a routing 
and role admin that works for e 5.5 in a win2k 
world?
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RE: Interview Questions

[Stuart Tonge]

probably connectors, and synchronisation.
nasty, nasty interviewers..

-Original Message-
From: Derek Roper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Interview Questions


All,

Sorry for the off topic.  I am a Windows NT/2000 Sys Admin, and currently
support Exchange 5.5 In a large environment.  I have been studying and
practicing a ton for Exchange 2000.  I have an interview tomorrow for my
first Exchange 2000 Admin Positio, and was wondering if some of you could
possibly give me some pointers on what are the main things that I will
most likely be quizzed on?  I am extremely nervous and could use a little
help!!!  Thank you so much in advance!

Derek Roper
Systems Administrator
Maxager Technology, Inc.
415-482-1331
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Outlook - Internet mail only

[Nickolaos Fotopoulos]

Title: RE: Outlook - Internet mail only



2000

Nick

  -Original Message-From: Blake R. Fowkes 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:00 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Outlook - 
  Internet mail only
  What version of Outlook??? 
  Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates Do not follow where the 
  path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a 
  trail. - Muriel Strode 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Nickolaos Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:58 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook - Internet 
  mail only 
  I have a station here that seems to only allow internet 
  mail. I can't seem to get a local connection to the Exchange server 
  setup. I figured it was something in the install setup, so I reinstalled 
  outlook with everything checked. This didn't help either. I've 
  also consulted my Magic 8 Ball, and it says "Its not suppose to do that". 
  (Thanks CDW!) Anyone have a better solution than my Magic 8 
  Ball?
  Nick 
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RE: Public folder security

[Bunting, Jeff]

Title: Public folder security



Not 
sure I follow. What is wrong with the way you have it? They can only 
add to the folder but not read it.Is that whatyou 
want.?

if 
you're just trying to keep the error message from popping up how about just 
having people send mail to the folder instead of copying it to the 
folder?

  -Original Message-From: Blake R. Fowkes 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:57 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Public folder 
  security
  I am playing around a little with security for a 
  few of my public folders. 
  If I set the permissions for a public folder so 
  like this: 
  John Q User 
   Custom 
  Permission 
  Level: Custom x Create Items _ Folder Owner _ Read Items 
   _ Folder Contact _ Create Subfolders x Folder 
  Visible 
  Edit 
  own Delete None 
  This will make it so that the user can add items 
  to the folder with no problems. However if the user make said folder the 
  current folder it will tell them that they do not have permissions to that 
  folder.
  Is there any way that I can make the folder so 
  that the user can place items in it but not be able to copy them from that 
  folder into another?
  I know this sounds strange but I have a manager 
  that is being VERY paranoid right now. I am about to tell him that I can 
  not do it.
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RE: Outlook - Internet mail only

[Anshu Dhamija]

If you have Office 2K or Office XP, open MS-Outlook then go to Tools-
Options-Mail Services and click on Reconfigure Mail support and lastly
select Corporate or Workgroup option and it will ask to log off ms-outlook
and then later you can configure the local exchange options.

Regards
Anshu Dhamija
HCL Comnet Ltd.
Noida, India

 -Original Message-
From:   Nickolaos Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:Outlook - Internet mail only

I have a station here that seems to only allow internet mail.  I can't seem
to get a local connection to the Exchange server setup.  I figured it was
something in the install setup, so I reinstalled outlook with everything
checked.  This didn't help either.  I've also consulted my Magic 8 Ball, and
it says Its not suppose to do that. (Thanks CDW!)  Anyone have a better
solution than my Magic 8 Ball?

Nick

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RE: backup Server

[Salvador Manzo]

Live replication of Exchange data will require a thrid party solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit more in the budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes and NSI charges US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new server, IF IT WILL BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load balancing and isolation of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and has NT on it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join the site and then
replicate emails from the original server to the backup server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Preston Jeffares]

Title: Message



150 
dollars and hr?!?! *cries* I'd be jumping for joy for 38/hr!! 
Oh the joys of state government!!


Preston JeffaresNetwork EngineerGeorgia Department of 
Motor Vehicle Safety[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  -Original Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:59 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  
  Please 
  contact Jim Schwartz J
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  
  Well, 
  where are these high paying jobs at. I'm underpaid! I want some of 
  that "cheese"! :o)
  -Original 
  Message-From: Schwartz, 
  Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  Like I said. I've 
  seen contracts for a whole hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest 
  I've seen was $525 an hour plus expenses. If you were talking salary then 
  150hrx hours x 52 weeks = $312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits and 
  taxes = $452,400.00 in salary costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don or 
  anyone else.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  I am 
  not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I was talking about your 
  authority to hire him or somebody like 
him.
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Schwartz, 
  Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  
  You're 
  cheap. [1] [2]
  
  [1] 
  Chorus: But not easy!
  [2] For 
  someone like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would be a 
  bargain.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  Something wrong with 
  charging $150 an hour? That's my usual going rate... 
  :o)
  -Original 
  Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:40 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  Then you must be 
  having authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he will be 
  charging J
  -Original 
  Message-From: Schwartz, 
  Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  And those of us with 
  hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and decide who 
  is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how to fix broke a$$ 
  sh!t.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  I have a great sense 
  of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming crap, 
  taking a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper MCSE's out 
  there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole in the 
  ground.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Bunting, 
  Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  someone leave their 
  sense of humor at home today?
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  You can keep thinking 
  that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm hiring for. 
  Don Ely 
  - NMBOTWBAS and then 
  some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original 
  Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  It never matters HOW 
  you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. Sheesh
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  We, unlike you, 
  didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world knowledge that 
  we've learned over the years...
  -Original 
  Message-From: Precht, 
  David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  what cram site did 
  you guys use ;) ?
  -Original 
  Message-From: Paul Green 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Wednesday, June 05, 2002 13:09To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  I got him certified 
  in UCC+WCA.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Posted At: 

AutoArchiving does not work

[David Erickson]

Hi,

A followed the Auto Archive thread, and have it setup correctly and it
still does not work.

Our electronic fax software is sending copies of routed faxes (email
attachments) into the sent items folder.  I have the save copy in sent
items folder unchecked, but they still appear, so I set the auto archive
to remove them after 2 days.  It does not do it either when set to auto
archive or if I manually tell it to archive.

Exc5.5 sp4
Win2k sp2
OL 2k sp1


any ideas?  again I have it set up like the q articles in the Auto Archive
thread.

dave
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RE: backup Server

[Bill Beckett]

So adding the server into the same site would only server the purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit more in the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes and NSI charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new server, IF IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load balancing and isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join the site
and then
replicate emails from the original server to the backup
server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

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RE: Public folder security

[Scot Parsons]

Title: Message



You 
think?


-Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:37 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Public folder 
security
You 
might want to give them permission to read items.

  
  -Original Message-From: Blake R. Fowkes 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:57 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Public folder 
  security
  I am playing around a little with security for a 
  few of my public folders. 
  If I set the permissions for a public folder so 
  like this: 
  John Q User 
   Custom 
  Permission 
  Level: Custom x Create Items _ Folder Owner _ Read Items 
   _ Folder Contact _ Create Subfolders x Folder 
  Visible 
  Edit 
  own Delete None 
  This will make it so that the user can add items 
  to the folder with no problems. However if the user make said folder the 
  current folder it will tell them that they do not have permissions to that 
  folder.
  Is there any way that I can make the folder so 
  that the user can place items in it but not be able to copy them from that 
  folder into another?
  I know this sounds strange but I have a manager 
  that is being VERY paranoid right now. I am about to tell him that I can 
  not do it.
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  78728 Phone: (512) 
  255- Fax: (512) 255-8780 
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Exchange 2000 Front-end/Back-end Setup for OWA

[Morse, George]

Greetings,



I need some help. Is anyone using an Exchange 2000 Server in a
front-end/back-end setup for OWA.
I am trying to set one up and can't get it working. Does anyone have a link to good
documentation?







George Morse

Nordson Corporation

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RE: Migration headaches - HELP!!!

[Garland Mac Neill]

Nope, doesnt go poof. Its
not a mail issue, Im not sure its the laptop either. Today it
seems to be fine. Its a damn ghost.



-Original Message-
From: John Matteson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Migration headaches -
HELP!!!





If
you go to another workstation and log in, then open outlook, does that machine
go poof?











If
not, the problem is not a mail issue, it's a problem on the laptop.











Nuke
the laptop.. FDISK.. then reinstall from distribution media.. not Ghost.. not
RIS.. from the real distribution media.











See
what happens. If it works, then you probably have a bad image you are
blowing onto the laptop.









John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981 
If I could wish for my life
to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would have to decline, for life would
no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones



-Original Message-
From: Garland Mac Neill
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Migration headaches -
HELP!!!

I have a few minor issues that
causing me royal headaches. 



I have one user, who whenever he
opens Outlook blows up his laptop (new laptop, XP, Outlook 2002). By blowing
up, I mean it axes his user account. He has to do a system restore to bring it
back. It started off slowly, at first he couldn't open up calendars. Now he
just opens Outlook and it bombs. He was recently moved from Exchange 5.5 to
E2K.



The other issues are, my address
book populates when it feels like. Meaning, I open the address book and it
displays the address book or it doesn't. I restart Outlook and it fixes itself.
I'm thinking this is a replication issue. In addition when I open a Outlook (w/
a mailbox on 2000) try and view a calendar in a mailbox that is on Exchange
5.5, I can't view it. However I can view a mailbox calendar that is located on
2000 from a 5.5 mailbox. 



Any help is GREATLY appreciated...



Garland Mac Neill

Systems Administrator

Solbourne

Office 303-402-2704

Cell 303-641-7574

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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Martin Blackstone]

Title: Message



150 is a 
consulting rate.

  
  -Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:44 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  150 
  dollars and hr?!?! *cries* I'd be jumping for joy for 
  38/hr!! Oh the joys of state government!!
  
  
  Preston JeffaresNetwork EngineerGeorgia Department of 
  Motor Vehicle Safety[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
-Original Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:59 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller

Please 
contact Jim Schwartz J

-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:56 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller

Well, 
where are these high paying jobs at. I'm underpaid! I want some 
of that "cheese"! :o)
-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
Like I said. I've 
seen contracts for a whole hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest 
I've seen was $525 an hour plus expenses. If you were talking salary then 
150hrx hours x 52 weeks = $312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits 
and taxes = $452,400.00 in salary costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don 
or anyone else.
-Original 
Message-From: Mal 
Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
I am 
not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I was talking about your 
authority to hire him or somebody like 
him.

-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller

You're 
cheap. [1] [2]

[1] 
Chorus: But not easy!
[2] 
For someone like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would be a 
bargain.
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
Something wrong 
with charging $150 an hour? That's my usual going rate... 
:o)
-Original 
Message-From: Mal 
Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:40 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
Then you must be 
having authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he will 
be charging J
-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
And those of us 
with hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and 
decide who is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how to 
fix broke a$$ sh!t.
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
I have a great 
sense of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming 
crap, taking a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper 
MCSE's out there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole in 
the ground.
-Original 
Message-From: Bunting, 
Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
someone leave their 
sense of humor at home today?
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
You can keep 
thinking that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm hiring 
for. 
Don 
Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then 
some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original 
Message-From: Matthew 
Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
It never matters 
HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. 
Sheesh
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:56 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
We, unlike you, 
didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world knowledge that 
we've learned over the years...
-Original 
Message-From: 

RE: Public folder security

[Blake R. Fowkes]

Title: Message



Thanks guys I think I know what I will tell the boss.


Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates 
Do not follow where the path may 
lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. 
- Muriel Strode 

  
  -Original Message-From: Scot Parsons 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:49 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Public folder 
  security
  You 
  think?
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:37 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Public folder 
  security
  You 
  might want to give them permission to read items.
  

-Original Message-From: Blake R. 
Fowkes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 
9:57 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Public 
folder security
I am playing around a little with security for 
a few of my public folders. 
If I set the permissions for a public folder so 
like this: 
John Q User 
 Custom 
Permission 
Level: Custom x Create Items _ Folder Owner _ Read Items 
 _ Folder Contact _ Create Subfolders x Folder 
Visible 
Edit 
own Delete None 
This will make it so that the user can add 
items to the folder with no problems. However if the user make said 
folder the current folder it will tell them that they do not have 
permissions to that folder.
Is there any way that I can make the folder so 
that the user can place items in it but not be able to copy them from that 
folder into another?
I know this sounds strange but I have a manager 
that is being VERY paranoid right now. I am about to tell him that I 
can not do it.
Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates 14205 Burnet Road, Suite 600, Austin, 
TX 78728 Phone: (512) 
255- Fax: (512) 255-8780 
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Re: 2000 server sizing.

[Bob Chyka]

i have a dell 6400 with dual XEON (2 mb) 933 
processors with 2 gigs of ram with 7 har drives - 2 raid 1 for os - 3 raid 5 for 
database - 2 raid 1 for logs - and i house about 2000 users with exchange 
2000. works real well for us!

Bob C.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:44 PM
  Subject: 2000 server sizing.
  
  
  We have finally implemented AD and 
  are now looking into migrating to E2K. Currently I have 7 boxes set up to 
  handle Exchange 5.5.
  
  5 for user mailboxes (about 500 
  users each)
  1 for Public 
  Folders
  1 for 
  IMS
  
  I have posted before asking if 
  anyone was using Exchange 2000 in a clustering or SAN configuration. I seem to 
  remember that some had said that they found a benefit to connecting to the SAN 
  but that there seemed to be a consensus that Exchange did not really do well 
  in a clustering environment for a site of 2500 users. Is this 
  correct?
  
  That being the case I am looking 
  at bringing E2k up on a Dell 4600 2GHz/512k XEON with 2GB memory and 4x74GB 
  RAID drives. Has anyone had any experience running Exchange on that type of 
  hardware and size? Also, when I first brought up my 5.5 site we were told to 
  keep it at about 500 mailboxes per server. Do I still need to follow that with 
  2000?
  
  I know that there are a lot of 
  variables and that there is no one right setup for everyone, but I am going in 
  the right direction?
  
  
  Ken PowellSystems 
  AdministratorClark 
  County Office of Budget and 
  Information Services (OBIS)Vancouver, 
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Re: For Kevin Miller

[Missy Koslosky]

Remember that a lot of those jobs will be from redundancies - Admin, HR,
etc. will get hit the hardest, then manufacturing (for products that are
being phased out).

- Original Message -
From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Wait til HP lays off the 10-15,000.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an IT individual
really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they salaries overall
are down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick back up to
the point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT wannabes with
dollar signs in their eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and they want
experience, and they want to pay as little as possible.  And
they'll be
able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple of recruiters
who are
seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making $70-$80k applying
for $40k
jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center out here,
and
supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50 positions.
Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700 resumes for a
position.
Some company that is apparently doing a very large w2k migration
has
been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people with certs
because
they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.

Someday, the economy will come back, and all the underpaid folks
will
jump to better paying jobs.

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Do hiring people still talk about the T shape candidate. This
doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it might. It
refers to
the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a broad
experience of
different technologies with in-depth knowledge of one or maybe
two
technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left college (but
that was
some time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no question...but
overall
a kid coming out of school expecting to make that amount is a
bit
ridiculous

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a kid saying
that 60-90K
was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was naive. Although
I do
agree that many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts these
days,
instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think that 60-90K
is all
that high either. It all depends on your market, experience, and
abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a job that
paid 3
times what I make here, simply due to market differences. Keep
in mind
that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex border
though...jk
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He was an IBM Global Services guy and knew Cobol
like he
wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay anyone who could
write
code some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's and CTO's make
the
$300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the medical care they
need to
have after having the lobotomy and spine removal surgeries.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Well, where are these high paying jobs
at.
I'm
underpaid!  I want some of that cheese!  :o)
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
5:08
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Like I said. I've seen contracts
for
a
whole
hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest I've seen was
$525 an
hour plus expenses. If you were talking salary then 150hr x
hours x 52
weeks = $312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits and taxes =
$452,400.00 in salary costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don
or anyone
else.
-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
4:53
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


I am not cheap. I wasn't talking
about
Don's
worth. I was talking about your authority to hire him or
somebody like
him.

-Original 

RE: backup Server

[Salvador Manzo]

That is correct.  If you were to install it as a new ORG/SITE, you could
script EXMERGE to do copy and replace into the new server, but nothing that
I am aware of from MS will allow live, real-time replication in the same
manner as SQL Server.  Also, keep in mind that EXMERGE data from one server
to another will NOT allow automatic failover, and WILL break Single Instance
Storage.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server

So adding the server into the same site would only server the purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit more in the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes and NSI charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new server, IF IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load balancing and isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join the site
and then
replicate emails from the original server to the backup
server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

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Re: For Kevin Miller

[Missy Koslosky]

Play nicely.

Missy Koslosky
hp Services
- Original Message -
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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:40 AM
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Point

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

I thought you were talking about HP??? ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 15:33
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Yep, you'll have some highly skilled people taking those 40K jobs

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:34 AM
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Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Wait til HP lays off the 10-15,000.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:21 AM
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Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an
IT
individual
really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they
salaries
overall
are down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick
back up
to
the point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT
wannabes with
dollar signs in their eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and
they
want
experience, and they want to pay as little as
possible.  And
they'll be
able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple
of
recruiters
who are
seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making
$70-$80k
applying
for $40k
jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center
out
here,
and
supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50
positions.
Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700
resumes for
a
position.
Some company that is apparently doing a very large
w2k
migration
has
been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people
with
certs
because
they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.

Someday, the economy will come back, and all the
underpaid
folks
will
jump to better paying jobs.

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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Do hiring people still talk about the T shape
candidate.
This
doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it
might. It
refers to
the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a
broad
experience of
different technologies with in-depth knowledge of
one or
maybe
two
technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left
college
(but
that was
some time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
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Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no
question...but
overall
a kid coming out of school expecting to make that
amount is
a
bit
ridiculous

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a
kid saying
that 60-90K
was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was
naive.
Although
I do
agree that many kids go in with much higher $$
thoughts
these
days,
instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think
that
60-90K
is all
that high either. It all depends on your market,
experience,
and
abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a
job that
paid 3
times what I make here, simply due to market
differences.
Keep
in mind
that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex
border
though...jk
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From: Schwartz, Jim
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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20
AM
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He was an IBM Global Services guy
and knew
Cobol
like he
wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay
anyone who
could
write
code some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's
and CTO's
make
the
$300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the
medical care
they
need to
have after having the lobotomy and spine removal
surgeries.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05,
2002 9:56
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin
Miller


Well, where are these high
paying
jobs
at.
I'm
underpaid!  I want some of that cheese!  :o)
-Original
Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday,
June 05,
2002
5:08
PM
To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For
Kevin
Miller


Like I said. I've
seen
contracts
for
a
whole
hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest
I've seen
was
$525 an
hour plus expenses. If you 

RE: smtp vs. imap

[Ely, Don]

When using IMAP, not only do you specify the IMAP server to download the
mail, but also an SMTP server to send the mail...

D

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another e-mail address out of organization?

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Subject: RE: smtp vs. imap


as your Exchange's domain or as another address ?



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Subject: smtp vs. imap



hi all,
i can throw e-mails to my mailbox's outbox folder using IMAP4 protocol,but i
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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Garland Mac Neill]

Title: Message









I think he is being naïve because he hasnt
even finished school and already dreaming of the big bucks. With the market
they way it is, theyre people out there who are killing themselves to
land a job. In the IT market, unless you have a lot of experience or you are
just god you arent going to land that kind of salary. 60-90k a year is a
lot of money. If he comes out the gate and lands something for 30- 35k a year,
thats plenty of money for a kid coming out of school with no experience.




It goes back to the paper cert. its
meaning less unless you have some experience. To sum it up, my point is this.
Everyone in this industry has to pay their dues. At some point in their career
they are going to have be whored out. Then comes the true test. Do you do this for the money or because
you like what you do? The best admins I have ever met, did it because they loved what they did. Im not
saying that he shouldnt have high expectations or goals to achieve, but
from what Ive seen of what he knows, he has a long way to go.



-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:25
AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller





Earlier someone mentioned a story
about a kid saying that 60-90K was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was
naive. Although I do agree that many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts
these days, instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think that 60-90K is
all that high either. It all depends on your market, experience, and abilities.
Market is a huge factor. I was offered a job that paid 3 times what I make
here, simply due to market differences. Keep in mind that I makeabout
$4.25/hourhere on the Tex-Mex border though...jk





-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20
AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller



He was an IBM Global
Services guy and knew Cobol like he wrote the language. During Y2K, they would
pay anyone who could write code some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's
and CTO's make the $300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the medical care
they need to have after having the lobotomy and spine removal surgeries.





-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
9:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller



Well, where are these
high paying jobs at. I'm underpaid! I want some of that
cheese! :o)





-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
5:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller



Like I said. I've seen
contracts for a whole hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest I've
seen was $525 an hour plus expenses. If you were talking salary then
150hrx hours x 52 weeks = $312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits and
taxes = $452,400.00 in salary costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don or
anyone else.





-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
4:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

I am not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I was talking about
your authority to hire him or somebody like him.



-Original
Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller



You're
cheap. [1] [2]



[1]
Chorus: But not easy!

[2] For
someone like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would be a
bargain.

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
3:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Something wrong with charging $150 an
hour? That's my usual going rate... :o)

-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
3:40 PM
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Then you must be having
authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he will be charging
J

-Original
Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:10 PM
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And those of us with
hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and decide who
is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how to fix broke a$$
sh!t.

-Original
Message-
From: Ely, Don
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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I have a great sense of
humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming crap, taking
a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper MCSE's out there
and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole in the ground.

-Original

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Clark, Steve]

It's good to be the king

 

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-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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Jim isn't too far from me actually.  Then again, he and I would probably be
fighting for his position.  I like being king myself.  :P

 

Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
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-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Please contact Jim Schwartz :-)

 

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

 

Well, where are these high paying jobs at.  I'm underpaid!  I want some of
that cheese!  :o)

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Like I said. I've seen contracts for a whole hell of a lot more than that. I
think the largest I've seen was $525 an hour plus expenses. If you were
talking salary then 150hr x hours x 52 weeks = $312,000.00. Add in about 45%
for benefits and taxes = $452,400.00 in salary costs. Not worth that. No
offense to Don or anyone else.

-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

I am not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I was talking about your
authority to hire him or somebody like him.

 

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

 

You're cheap. [1] [2]

 

[1] Chorus: But not easy!

[2] For someone like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would
be a bargain.

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Something wrong with charging $150 an hour?  That's my usual going rate...
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Then you must be having authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what
Kevin said, he will be charging :-)

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

And those of us with hiring authority do make it a practice to look into
these lists and decide who is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and
who knows how to fix broke a$$ sh!t.

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

I have a great sense of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of
this cramming crap, taking a test, and calling yourself certified.  Too many
paper MCSE's out there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a
hole in the ground.

-Original Message-
From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

someone leave their sense of humor at home today?

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

You can keep thinking that...  Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm
hiring for. 

Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
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-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

It never matters HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. Sheesh

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

We, unlike you, didn't/don't use CRAM sites.  We actually use real world
knowledge that we've learned over the years...

-Original Message-
From: Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Re: For Kevin Miller

[Matt Moore]

Title: Message



hey Don did ya move back. I see a tech. 
mail box.
Matt

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ely, 
  Don 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:59 
  PM
  Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller
  
  Good 
  story!
  
  
  Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-Original Message-From: Garland Mac 
Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 
2002 5:53 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
For Kevin Miller

True 
Story

Our Intern (who we 
refer to as a mini me) is going to CSU and majoring in IT. He wants to 
become a Sys Admin. Nevermind the fact that the 
first 2 days he was here we asked him to setup some laptops. He had never 
loaded an OS before. So I go into the server room and was working on my 
Exchange migration and he comes in to watch. Asks me were I learned 
everything, what school I went too... I told him I was baptized by fire. 
Self Taught. He wasn't impressed, not that I cared or wanted him to be. Then 
he began asking what our Oracle consultants did and what they got paid. When 
I said, depending on what they do and how much experience they have, I said 
some where between $60 and $90k to start. 

This is where he 
blew my mind. He asked me and I quote "is that all?!?" 


These kids come out 
of school thinking that the dot com boom is still alive and our expecting 
huge 6 figure salaries. After that I didn't have the heart to tell him, that 
the only way he was going to make that kind of money as an admin was to have 
10-15 years of experience and be damn good at it. 


Unfortunately they 
want the huge paychecks and are not interested in the job. Personally, I 
love what I do. I make enough money. More is always better, but the bottom 
line is I still love what I do. I'll love it more when I'm off this 
migrationbut that's another story.

So where's the beer 
(looking around) ?

-Original 
Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:52 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller


Yeah, 
well, try being unemployed right now without a cert. Regardless of the 
argument, lotsa companies are wanting certs. I got an e-mail today 
from one company that said they got 700+ resumes for 1 position they put in 
the paper. It sucks in the marketplace right 
now.
-Original 
  Message-From: 
  Desiree Herrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:44 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  
  I 
  concur, I tried a few years back to do night school, and keep up with day 
  to day job. I, like many sys admins am salary and spend way too much 
  time working when I'm not getting reimbursed. This is my reasoning 
  behind not striving to get certified, unless, the company wants to pay and 
  to allow me to go to class during business hours. When things in 
  your personal life start taking a nosedive because of your day job it can 
  really help you recheck your thinking. Lose someone close to you, 
  that really helped me realize it's not so great to work all the time and 
  miss out on real life.
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:45 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller

Not at all. I 
feel the exact same way. I wont even get certified (unless my company 
wants to pay for it AND let me take day classes, no nights). That's how 
much of a waste I believe it is at this point in my 
career.

  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Bunting, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
  11:39 AMTo: 
  MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  
  someone leave 
  their sense of humor at home today?
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
2:29 PMTo: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller

You can 
keep thinking that... Just pray you never apply for a job that 
I'm hiring for. 

Don Ely - 
NMBOTWBAS and then 
some[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  -Original 
  Message-From: Matthew Carpenter 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 
  2002 2:11 PMTo: 
  

RE: Outlook - Internet mail only

[Nickolaos Fotopoulos]

Thanks Carol, and Anshu.  Worked like a charm!

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Carol Fee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook - Internet mail only


If this is for Outlook 2000

Outlook/Tools/Options/Mail Services tab/Reconfigure Mail Support/Select
Corporate or Workgroup


Carol Fee  MCSE
Network Administrator
Artisoft, Inc.
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Cambridge, MA 02142
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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook - Internet mail only


I have a station here that seems to only allow internet mail.  I can't seem
to get a local connection to the Exchange server setup.  I figured it was
something in the install setup, so I reinstalled outlook with everything
checked.  This didn't help either.  I've also consulted my Magic 8 Ball, and
it says Its not suppose to do that. (Thanks CDW!)  Anyone have a better
solution than my Magic 8 Ball?

Nick

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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Nickolaos Fotopoulos]

Title: Message



Bah! I'd be jumping for joy for 38/hr

  -Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:44 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  150 
  dollars and hr?!?! *cries* I'd be jumping for joy for 
  38/hr!! Oh the joys of state government!!
  
  
  Preston JeffaresNetwork EngineerGeorgia Department of 
  Motor Vehicle Safety[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
-Original Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:59 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller

Please 
contact Jim Schwartz J

-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:56 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller

Well, 
where are these high paying jobs at. I'm underpaid! I want some 
of that "cheese"! :o)
-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
Like I said. I've 
seen contracts for a whole hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest 
I've seen was $525 an hour plus expenses. If you were talking salary then 
150hrx hours x 52 weeks = $312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits 
and taxes = $452,400.00 in salary costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don 
or anyone else.
-Original 
Message-From: Mal 
Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
I am 
not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I was talking about your 
authority to hire him or somebody like 
him.

-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller

You're 
cheap. [1] [2]

[1] 
Chorus: But not easy!
[2] 
For someone like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would be a 
bargain.
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
Something wrong 
with charging $150 an hour? That's my usual going rate... 
:o)
-Original 
Message-From: Mal 
Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:40 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
Then you must be 
having authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he will 
be charging J
-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
And those of us 
with hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and 
decide who is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how to 
fix broke a$$ sh!t.
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
I have a great 
sense of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming 
crap, taking a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper 
MCSE's out there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole in 
the ground.
-Original 
Message-From: Bunting, 
Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
someone leave their 
sense of humor at home today?
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
You can keep 
thinking that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm hiring 
for. 
Don 
Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then 
some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original 
Message-From: Matthew 
Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
It never matters 
HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. 
Sheesh
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:56 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
We, unlike you, 
didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world knowledge that 
we've learned over the years...
-Original 

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Corgiat, Rick]

Title: Message









Tomorrow at noon, Howard's Pub, County Line Rd in Mequon WI.

There's gonna be a LOT of IT types
draining the tappers...

We'll leave when it's too hard
to stand up...



Rick



-Original Message-
From: Garland Mac Neill
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller



True Story







So where's the beer
(looking around)?








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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Ely, Don]

Title: Message



Tech 
mailbox???

Nope, 
didn't move back and don't plan to for quite some time. I like it down 
here where the sun shines frequently and it's actually warm. 
However, I was up there for two weeks a couple of weeks ago to rip 
apart a legacy network and implement a "real" networking solution versus the 
patchwork that was installed there. :P

D

  
  -Original Message-From: Matt Moore 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 
  12:41 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: For 
  Kevin Miller
  hey Don did ya move back. I see a tech. 
  mail box.
  Matt
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Ely, 
Don 
To: MS-Exchange Admin 
Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:59 
PM
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

Good story!


Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Garland Mac 
  Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 
  2002 5:53 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  For Kevin Miller
  
  True 
  Story
  
  Our Intern (who 
  we refer to as a mini me) is going to CSU and majoring in IT. He wants to 
  become a Sys Admin. Nevermind the fact that the 
  first 2 days he was here we asked him to setup some laptops. He had never 
  loaded an OS before. So I go into the server room and was working on my 
  Exchange migration and he comes in to watch. Asks me were I learned 
  everything, what school I went too... I told him I was baptized by fire. 
  Self Taught. He wasn't impressed, not that I cared or wanted him to be. 
  Then he began asking what our Oracle consultants did and what they got 
  paid. When I said, depending on what they do and how much experience they 
  have, I said some where between $60 and $90k to start. 
  
  
  This is where he 
  blew my mind. He asked me and I quote "is that all?!?" 
  
  
  These kids come 
  out of school thinking that the dot com boom is still alive and our 
  expecting huge 6 figure salaries. After that I didn't have the heart to 
  tell him, that the only way he was going to make that kind of money as an 
  admin was to have 10-15 years of experience and be damn good at it. 
  
  
  Unfortunately 
  they want the huge paychecks and are not interested in the job. 
  Personally, I love what I do. I make enough money. More is always better, 
  but the bottom line is I still love what I do. I'll love it more when I'm 
  off this migrationbut that's another 
  story.
  
  So where's the 
  beer (looking around) ?
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ray 
  Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:52 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  
  
  Yeah, well, try 
  being unemployed right now without a cert. Regardless of the 
  argument, lotsa companies are wanting certs. I got an e-mail today 
  from one company that said they got 700+ resumes for 1 position they put 
  in the paper. It sucks in the marketplace right 
  now.
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Desiree Herrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:44
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: For Kevin Miller

I concur, I 
tried a few years back to do night school, and keep up with day to day 
job. I, like many sys admins am salary and spend way too much time 
working when I'm not getting reimbursed. This is my reasoning 
behind not striving to get certified, unless, the company wants to pay 
and to allow me to go to class during business hours. When things 
in your personal life start taking a nosedive because of your day job it 
can really help you recheck your thinking. Lose someone close to 
you, that really helped me realize it's not so great to work all the 
time and miss out on real life.

  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
  1:45 PMTo: 
  MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  
  Not at all. I 
  feel the exact same way. I wont even get certified (unless my company 
  wants to pay for it AND let me take day classes, no nights). That's 
  how much of a waste I believe it is at this point in my 
  career.
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Bunting, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
11:39 AMTo: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller
   

RE: AutoArchiving does not work

[Precht, David]

Have you tried just using a rule based move ?


-Original Message-
From: David Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:44
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: AutoArchiving does not work


Hi,

A followed the Auto Archive thread, and have it setup correctly and it still
does not work.

Our electronic fax software is sending copies of routed faxes (email
attachments) into the sent items folder.  I have the save copy in sent
items folder unchecked, but they still appear, so I set the auto archive to
remove them after 2 days.  It does not do it either when set to auto archive
or if I manually tell it to archive.

Exc5.5 sp4
Win2k sp2
OL 2k sp1


any ideas?  again I have it set up like the q articles in the Auto Archive
thread.

dave
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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Garland Mac Neill]

Title: Message









Ummm.



Being as I am in Denver/Boulder I dont
think that is going to work 



Although, if anyone on the list is in the
area, Im willing to find a bar..



-Original Message-
From: Corgiat, Rick
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller



Tomorrow at noon, Howard's Pub, County Line Rd in Mequon WI.

There's gonna be a LOT of
IT types draining the tappers...

We'll leave when it's too
hard to stand up...



Rick



-Original Message-
From: Garland Mac Neill
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller



True
Story







So
where's the beer (looking around)?





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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Paul Green]

Title: Message



"If 
your hurt and miss work-- it won't hurt to miss work"

  -Original Message-From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Posted At: Wednesday, 
  June 05, 2002 4:13 PMPosted To: Exchange 2000 
  ServerConversation: For Kevin MillerSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  
  AFLAK!!!
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Andy David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:29 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  quack
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Schwartz, 
  Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  And those of us with 
  hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and decide who 
  is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how to fix broke a$$ 
  sh!t.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  I have a great sense 
  of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming crap, 
  taking a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper MCSE's out 
  there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole in the 
  ground.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Bunting, 
  Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  someone leave their 
  sense of humor at home today?
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  You can keep thinking 
  that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm hiring for. 
  Don Ely 
  - NMBOTWBAS and then 
  some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original 
  Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  It never matters HOW 
  you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. Sheesh
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  We, unlike you, 
  didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world knowledge that 
  we've learned over the years...
  -Original 
  Message-From: Precht, 
  David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  what cram site did 
  you guys use ;) ?
  -Original 
  Message-From: Paul Green 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Wednesday, June 05, 2002 13:09To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  I got him certified 
  in UCC+WCA.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Posted At: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:08 
  AMPosted To: Exchange 2000 
  ServerConversation: For 
  Kevin MillerSubject: For 
  Kevin Miller
  Would 
  you mind enlightening us on what all that crap is after your name? Is that 
  just a jab at the "certified" world, or are those real? I can not find 
  anything on them in Google. (I had 2 minutes to spare to 
  look)
  TIA 
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RE: AutoArchiving does not work

[Ely, Don]

Mr. Precht,

Have you tried giving an actual technical solution?

Mr. Erickson,

Are you trying to only archive the entire sent items folder after two days
or what?  With regards to save copy in sent items folder being unchecked,
is this within Outlook you have this setting? What fax software are we
talking about here?  

More information is needed here...  

-Original Message-
From: Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: AutoArchiving does not work


Have you tried just using a rule based move ?


-Original Message-
From: David Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:44
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: AutoArchiving does not work


Hi,

A followed the Auto Archive thread, and have it setup correctly and it still
does not work.

Our electronic fax software is sending copies of routed faxes (email
attachments) into the sent items folder.  I have the save copy in sent
items folder unchecked, but they still appear, so I set the auto archive to
remove them after 2 days.  It does not do it either when set to auto archive
or if I manually tell it to archive.

Exc5.5 sp4
Win2k sp2
OL 2k sp1


any ideas?  again I have it set up like the q articles in the Auto Archive
thread.

dave
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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Precht, David]

They are in the process of that :
http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?siteid=mktwguid=%7BBFAB1CE2%2D531
1%2D4F71%2DB227%2D4D601F515EC3%7D


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Wait til HP lays off the 10-15,000.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an IT individual
really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they salaries overall are
down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick back up to the
point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT wannabes with dollar signs
in their eyes. 

-Original Message-
From:   Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and they want
experience, and they want to pay as little as possible.  And they'll
be
able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple of recruiters who
are
seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making $70-$80k applying for
$40k
jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center out here, and
supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50 positions.
Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700 resumes for a
position.
Some company that is apparently doing a very large w2k migration has
been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people with certs
because
they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.  

Someday, the economy will come back, and all the underpaid folks
will
jump to better paying jobs. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Do hiring people still talk about the T shape candidate. This
doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it might. It refers
to
the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a broad experience
of
different technologies with in-depth knowledge of one or maybe two
technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left college (but that
was
some time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no question...but
overall
a kid coming out of school expecting to make that amount is a bit
ridiculous

-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a kid saying
that 60-90K
was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was naive. Although I
do
agree that many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts these days,
instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think that 60-90K is
all
that high either. It all depends on your market, experience, and
abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a job that paid 3
times what I make here, simply due to market differences. Keep in
mind
that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex border though...jk
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He was an IBM Global Services guy and knew Cobol
like he
wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay anyone who could
write
code some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's and CTO's make the
$300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the medical care they need
to
have after having the lobotomy and spine removal surgeries.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Ely, Don]

You're just full of answers aren't you...

Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


They are in the process of that :
http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?siteid=mktwguid=%7BBFAB1CE2%2D531
1%2D4F71%2DB227%2D4D601F515EC3%7D


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Wait til HP lays off the 10-15,000.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He's right, that is the market today. Which, if you are an IT individual
really sucks. I have talked with recruiters and they salaries overall are
down 25%. I don't think the market will really ever pick back up to the
point that it was. It is now too flooded with IT wannabes with dollar signs
in their eyes. 

-Original Message-
From:   Ray Zorz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Not that I've seen.  Right now, they want certs, and they want
experience, and they want to pay as little as possible.  And they'll
be
able to find that person.  I've talked to a couple of recruiters who
are
seeing resumes from IT folks formerly making $70-$80k applying for
$40k
jobs.  DHL announced they were opening an IT center out here, and
supposedly got about 5 thousand resumes for about 50 positions.
Yesterday I heard from someone that had over 700 resumes for a
position.
Some company that is apparently doing a very large w2k migration has
been rejecting experienced NT4-w2k migration people with certs
because
they hadn't worked on large enough migrations.  

Someday, the economy will come back, and all the underpaid folks
will
jump to better paying jobs. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Do hiring people still talk about the T shape candidate. This
doesn't
refer to their physical shape although I guess it might. It refers
to
the fact that mostly recruiters want a guy with a broad experience
of
different technologies with in-depth knowledge of one or maybe two
technologies.

Just wundrin' coz it was all the rage when I left college (but that
was
some time ago now!).

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


Definitely agree on the market plays a factor, no question...but
overall
a kid coming out of school expecting to make that amount is a bit
ridiculous

-Original Message-
From:   Matthew Carpenter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: For Kevin Miller

Earlier someone mentioned a story about a kid saying
that 60-90K
was too low for OCPs, and he thought the kid was naive. Although I
do
agree that many kids go in with much higher $$ thoughts these days,
instead of the love of protocols (JK), I don't think that 60-90K is
all
that high either. It all depends on your market, experience, and
abilities. Market is a huge factor. I was offered a job that paid 3
times what I make here, simply due to market differences. Keep in
mind
that I make about $4.25/hour here on the Tex-Mex border though...jk
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller


He was an IBM Global Services guy and knew Cobol
like he
wrote the language. During Y2K, they would pay anyone who could
write
code some serious cake. The reason that the CIO's and CTO's make the
$300k - $600k kind of money is due to all the medical care they need
to
have after having the lobotomy and spine removal surgeries.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL 

RE: backup Server

[Bill Beckett]

What if you had 2 servers, say exchange1 and exchange2, Exchange1 being the
existing one. You added exchange2 into the same site, duplicated all the
mailboxes (different address), you couldn't replicate emails from Joeuser on
exchange1 to Joeuser on exchange2?


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

That is correct.  If you were to install it as a new ORG/SITE, you
could
script EXMERGE to do copy and replace into the new server, but
nothing that
I am aware of from MS will allow live, real-time replication in the
same
manner as SQL Server.  Also, keep in mind that EXMERGE data from one
server
to another will NOT allow automatic failover, and WILL break Single
Instance
Storage.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server

So adding the server into the same site would only server the
purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit more in
the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes and NSI
charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new server, IF
IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load balancing and
isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and
has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join
the site
and then
replicate emails from the original server to the
backup
server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

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RE: backup Server

[Ely, Don]

You could do it, but I can guarantee you it would suck really, REALLY bad.
You'd introduce a number of problems I won't even beging to explain as it
would take way too much time to type up.

Let's just say, that this would NOT be a solid technical solution.


Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


What if you had 2 servers, say exchange1 and exchange2, Exchange1 being the
existing one. You added exchange2 into the same site, duplicated all the
mailboxes (different address), you couldn't replicate emails from Joeuser on
exchange1 to Joeuser on exchange2?


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

That is correct.  If you were to install it as a new ORG/SITE, you
could
script EXMERGE to do copy and replace into the new server, but
nothing that
I am aware of from MS will allow live, real-time replication in the
same
manner as SQL Server.  Also, keep in mind that EXMERGE data from one
server
to another will NOT allow automatic failover, and WILL break Single
Instance
Storage.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server

So adding the server into the same site would only server the
purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit more in
the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes and NSI
charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new server, IF
IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load balancing and
isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and
has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join
the site
and then
replicate emails from the original server to the
backup
server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

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RE: backup Server

[Bill Beckett]

Thanks for the feedback, just curious.

What would be the best solution for a backup, clustering? Or perhaps just
having a duplicate server ready to go?

-Original Message-
From:   Ely, Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

You could do it, but I can guarantee you it would suck really,
REALLY bad.
You'd introduce a number of problems I won't even beging to explain
as it
would take way too much time to type up.

Let's just say, that this would NOT be a solid technical solution.


Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


What if you had 2 servers, say exchange1 and exchange2, Exchange1
being the
existing one. You added exchange2 into the same site, duplicated all
the
mailboxes (different address), you couldn't replicate emails from
Joeuser on
exchange1 to Joeuser on exchange2?


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

That is correct.  If you were to install it as a new
ORG/SITE, you
could
script EXMERGE to do copy and replace into the new server,
but
nothing that
I am aware of from MS will allow live, real-time replication
in the
same
manner as SQL Server.  Also, keep in mind that EXMERGE data
from one
server
to another will NOT allow automatic failover, and WILL break
Single
Instance
Storage.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server

So adding the server into the same site would only server
the
purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two
servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a
thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit
more in
the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes
and NSI
charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new
server, IF
IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load
balancing and
isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already
built and
has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server
join
the site
and then
replicate emails from the original server to
the
backup
server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

List Charter and 

RE: backup Server

[Ely, Don]

You will find all of the info you seek in the FAQ's and DR Whitepapers

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm

Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Thanks for the feedback, just curious.

What would be the best solution for a backup, clustering? Or perhaps just
having a duplicate server ready to go?

-Original Message-
From:   Ely, Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

You could do it, but I can guarantee you it would suck really,
REALLY bad.
You'd introduce a number of problems I won't even beging to explain
as it
would take way too much time to type up.

Let's just say, that this would NOT be a solid technical solution.


Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


What if you had 2 servers, say exchange1 and exchange2, Exchange1
being the
existing one. You added exchange2 into the same site, duplicated all
the
mailboxes (different address), you couldn't replicate emails from
Joeuser on
exchange1 to Joeuser on exchange2?


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

That is correct.  If you were to install it as a new
ORG/SITE, you
could
script EXMERGE to do copy and replace into the new server,
but
nothing that
I am aware of from MS will allow live, real-time replication
in the
same
manner as SQL Server.  Also, keep in mind that EXMERGE data
from one
server
to another will NOT allow automatic failover, and WILL break
Single
Instance
Storage.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server

So adding the server into the same site would only server
the
purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two
servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a
thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit
more in
the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes
and NSI
charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new
server, IF
IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load
balancing and
isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already
built and
has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


   

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Garland Mac Neill]

Title: Message











Where did you get the duck 



-Original Message-
From: Paul Green
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002
11:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller





http://www.kcr.org/pccam/aflac!!.jpg











My
talking Aflac duck. Just one of my desk items here at work. And
yes, that is my Edgar Martinez bobble head. ;)












paul green 
seattle 





-Original Message-
From: Paul Green 
Posted At: Thursday, June 06, 2002
10:22 AM
Posted To: Exchange 2000 Server
Conversation: For Kevin Miller
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller



If
your hurt and miss work-- it won't hurt to miss work





-Original Message-
From: Lathrum Matt-P55173
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
4:13 PM
Posted To: Exchange 2000 Server
Conversation: For Kevin Miller
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

AFLAK!!!



-Original Message-
From: Andy David
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
3:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

quack



-Original
Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

And those of us with
hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and decide who
is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how to fix broke a$$
sh!t.

-Original
Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

I have a great sense of
humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming crap, taking
a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper MCSE's out there
and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole in the ground.

-Original
Message-
From: Bunting, Jeff
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

someone leave their sense
of humor at home today?

-Original
Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

You can
keep thinking that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm hiring
for. 

Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original
Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

It
never matters HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. Sheesh

-Original
Message-
From: Ely, Don
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
12:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

We,
unlike you, didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world
knowledge that we've learned over the years...

-Original
Message-
From: Precht, David
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

what
cram site did you guys use ;) ?

-Original
Message-
From: Paul Green
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002
13:09
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: For Kevin Miller

I got
him certified in UCC+WCA.

-Original
Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Wednesday, June 05,
2002 10:08 AM
Posted To: Exchange 2000 Server
Conversation: For Kevin Miller
Subject: For Kevin Miller

Would you mind enlightening us on what
all that crap is after your name? Is that just a jab at the
certified world, or are those real? I can not find anything on them
in Google. (I had 2 minutes to spare to look)

TIA 

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RE: For Kevin Miller

[Schwartz, Jim]

Title: Message



Or Don 
and I would work it out over a few beers and divide the world in 
half.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 
  10:56 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  Jim 
  isn't too far from me actually. Then again, he and I would probably be 
  fighting for his position. I like being king myself. 
  :P
  
  
  Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then 
  some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-Original Message-From: Mal Sasalu 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:59 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
Miller

Please 
contact Jim Schwartz J

-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:56 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller

Well, 
where are these high paying jobs at. I'm underpaid! I want some 
of that "cheese"! :o)
-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:08 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
Like I said. I've 
seen contracts for a whole hell of a lot more than that. I think the largest 
I've seen was $525 an hour plus expenses. If you were talking salary then 
150hrx hours x 52 weeks = $312,000.00. Add in about 45% for benefits 
and taxes = $452,400.00 in salary costs. Not worth that. No offense to Don 
or anyone else.
-Original 
Message-From: Mal 
Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:53 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
I am 
not cheap. I wasn't talking about Don's worth. I was talking about your 
authority to hire him or somebody like 
him.

-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller

You're 
cheap. [1] [2]

[1] 
Chorus: But not easy!
[2] 
For someone like Don, who I KNOW has the experience $150 an hour would be a 
bargain.
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:58 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
Something wrong 
with charging $150 an hour? That's my usual going rate... 
:o)
-Original 
Message-From: Mal 
Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:40 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
Then you must be 
having authority to pay $150/hour as well. That's what Kevin said, he will 
be charging J
-Original 
Message-From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
And those of us 
with hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and 
decide who is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how to 
fix broke a$$ sh!t.
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
I have a great 
sense of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming 
crap, taking a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper 
MCSE's out there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole in 
the ground.
-Original 
Message-From: Bunting, 
Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
someone leave their 
sense of humor at home today?
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
You can keep 
thinking that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm hiring 
for. 
Don 
Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then 
some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original 
Message-From: Matthew 
Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
It never matters 
HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. 
Sheesh
-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:56 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller
We, unlike you, 
didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world knowledge that 
we've learned over the years...
 

RE: For Kevin Miller

[Paul Green]

Title: Message



www.aflac.com 
;)

  -Original Message-From: Garland Mac Neill 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Posted At: Thursday, June 06, 2002 
  10:38 AMPosted To: Exchange 2000 ServerConversation: For 
  Kevin MillerSubject: RE: For Kevin Miller
  
  
  Where did you get the 
  duck 
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Paul Green 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:31 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: For Kevin 
  Miller
  
  
  http://www.kcr.org/pccam/aflac!!.jpg
  
  
  
  My 
  talking Aflac duck. Just one of my desk items here at work. And 
  yes, that is my Edgar Martinez bobble head. ;)
  
  
  
  paul 
  green 
  seattle 
  
  
-Original 
Message-From: Paul 
Green Posted At: Thursday, 
June 06, 2002 10:22 AMPosted 
To: Exchange 2000 ServerConversation: For Kevin 
MillerSubject: RE: For 
Kevin Miller

"If 
your hurt and miss work-- it won't hurt to miss work"
-Original 
  Message-From: 
  Lathrum Matt-P55173 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Posted At: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
  4:13 PMPosted To: 
  Exchange 2000 ServerConversation: For Kevin 
  MillerSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  AFLAK!!!
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Andy 
  David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:29 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  quack
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:10 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  And those of us 
  with hiring authority do make it a practice to look into these lists and 
  decide who is an idiot, who is new and trying to learn and who knows how 
  to fix broke a$$ sh!t.
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:42 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  I have a great 
  sense of humour provided someone works for a cert instead of this cramming 
  crap, taking a test, and calling yourself certified. Too many paper 
  MCSE's out there and those paper MCSE's don't know their a$$ from a hole 
  in the ground.
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Bunting, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  someone leave 
  their sense of humor at home today?
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  You can keep 
  thinking that... Just pray you never apply for a job that I'm hiring 
  for. 

  Don Ely - 
  NMBOTWBAS and then 
  some[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:11 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  It never matters 
  HOW you get certified, as long as you ARE certified. 
  Sheesh
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  We, unlike you, 
  didn't/don't use CRAM sites. We actually use real world knowledge 
  that we've learned over the years...
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: For 
  Kevin Miller
  what cram site 
  did you guys use ;) ?
  -Original 
  Message-From: Paul 
  Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
  13:09To: MS-Exchange 
  Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  For Kevin Miller
  I got him 
  certified in UCC+WCA.
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Posted At: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 
  10:08 AMPosted To: 
  Exchange 2000 ServerConversation: For Kevin 
  MillerSubject: For Kevin 
  Miller
  Would you mind 
  enlightening us on what all that crap is after your name? Is that just a 
  jab at the "certified" world, or are those real? I can not find anything 
  on them in Google. (I had 2 minutes to spare to 
  look)
  TIA 
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Outlook:mac with Exchange

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I have a number of Mac users that have been recently setup to use the new
Outlook:mac client to access our Exchange server.

I have (1) user that this absolutely doesn't work with.  He receives a
credentials error when attempting to connect.  He also receives a
credentials error when attempting to connect to OWA.

For at least 2 years, these Mac users have been accessing NT shares with
Dave.  This user uses the same credentials to connect to NT shares without
an issue.  Other Mac users can access the Exchange server



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: Outlook:mac with Exchange

[Keith Nelson]

Have you tried changing the Users Password

I don't know if your using AD (I will assume you are).
When ever I have this problem with a Mac user its usually do to an error with the 
Kerberos ticket.
Changing the Password on a PC or through ADUC usually fixes the problem.

Keith Nelson
Network Administrator
Orange County High School of the Arts



 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:47 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Outlook:mac with Exchange
 
 
 I have a number of Mac users that have been recently setup to 
 use the new
 Outlook:mac client to access our Exchange server.
 
 I have (1) user that this absolutely doesn't work with.  He receives a
 credentials error when attempting to connect.  He also receives a
 credentials error when attempting to connect to OWA.
 
 For at least 2 years, these Mac users have been accessing NT 
 shares with
 Dave.  This user uses the same credentials to connect to NT 
 shares without
 an issue.  Other Mac users can access the Exchange server
 
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm