Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:20 PM, I am the eternal wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: Chris is also a very cool guy, having brought some great rock bands to town and having stood up to Bevan when the latter tried to get him to fire an employee who happened to be an Amma devotee. He sees MUM soon not much of anything. He's right in at least one way. The new stimulus bill means that a large of number of high tech visa people waiting to fill American jobs with their new MBA's etc. are being abandoned by the companies that sponsored them. That means universities who relied on these visas may be losing some students. But maybe they'll be able to pick up any slack with their sustainability programs. Amazing he was able to stand up to an Amma devotee and both of them survived.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: What I found a bit disconcerting the one day I drove around there with a friend from out-of-town was that there nobody outside, anywhere, despite the fact that it was a beautiful, sunny day. Can't remember if it was a weekday or not, so people could have theoretically been working...but, even so, *nobody* outside? Is enjoying the sun also considered OTP? They were probably all inside, doing sun salutations.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Chris is also a very cool guy, having brought some great rock bands to town and having stood up to Bevan when the latter tried to get him to fire an employee who happened to be an Amma devotee. Oh yes. I wondered whatever happened to her. She was an excellent head of housekeeping. I was of course blown away when she told me that she had gone over to the Dark Side. Chris has this developer image of VC where in every direction there's Temple to the Holy Tradtion, expat Indians thronging to tour, shops, flats and houses all around him. He sees MUM soon not much of anything. But as I've relayed before. my suite for half a year abutted the lobby and was diagonal to Chris' office. I could hear during the hours long con calls Maharish playing Chris against MUM. Maharishi knew how to trade them rugs. I've heard mmy do that on calls to people in DC back in the day -- mmy would put down ffld and make it seem like he had DC in mind as the key to the future.
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Maybe one of greatest movies of all time. Though I have to admit that the two Hunter Thompson inspired flicks also really cracked me up totally. Yeah, Fear and Loathing, and Where the Buffalo Roam. In order to understand the greatness of these flicks you have to see them as essentially counter culture and mind expanding. Personally I miss Doug Henning and I wish he were still here performing. Raja Bluto: See if you can guess what I am now. [puts cottage cheese ball in his mouth and hits his cheeks with his fists and spits it out] Raja Bluto: I'm a zit. Get it? Raja Boon: It's not gonna be an orgy! It's a toga party. Rajini Katy: Honestly, Boon, you're twenty-one years old. In six months you're going to graduate, and tomorrow night you're going to wrap yourself in a bed sheet and pour grain alcohol all over your head. It's cute, but I think I'll pass this time. Raja Boon: Want me to go alone? Rajini Katy: Baby, I don't want you to go at all. Raja Boon: It's a *fraternity* party, I'm in the fraternity. How can I miss it? Rajini Katy: I'll write you a note. I'll say you're too well to attend. Raja Bluto: TOGA! TOGA! Raja D-Day: War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one. Raja Bluto: Over? Did you say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! Raja Otter: Germans? Raja Boon: Forget it, he's rolling. Raja Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough... [thinks hard] Raja Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go! [runs out, alone; then returns] Raja Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Darshan House I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Raja Bluto, we might get in trouble. Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer... Raja Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part. Raja Bluto: We're just the guys to do it. Raja D-Day: Let's do it. Raja Bluto: *Let's do it*! To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:42 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India Amazing he was able to stand up to an Amma devotee and both of them survived. He didn't stand up to the Amma devotee, but to Bevan, who wanted him to fire her from the staff of his hotel (because she was an Amma devotee.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
On Mar 9, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:42 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India Amazing he was able to stand up to an Amma devotee and both of them survived. He didn't stand up to the Amma devotee, but to Bevan, who wanted him to fire her from the staff of his hotel (because she was an Amma devotee.) Sorry. Typo. Should have been for an Amma devotee not to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: Can't remember if it was a weekday or not, so people could have theoretically been working...but, even so, *nobody* outside? Is enjoying the sun also considered OTP? Or in the garage tuning up their engine for their nightly assault on any living creature which dares, I say dares walk on the road. I used to walk from the Ruk to the Raj and back every night. The Rus more often then the townies were driving like bats out of Hell. When they sensed a pedestrian on the road they turned on their high beams. So now you had to run for safety to the other side of the road while blinded. But frankly, the only time you'll see a Ru outside is if they are cutting grass (Chris cuts his own grass I suspect as a way to get away from it all) or walking. If they are walking they are most likely visitors.
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Cool it is not. Apparently the climate is unbearable much of the year. Did you catch the this building has air conditioning accolade ? Girish Varma and Raja Kaplan are doing their best to convince Bevan and the Westerners to continue subsidizing the White Elephant in the middle of nowhere. I think the Westerners are waking up and doubt the efficacy of the place. The Brahmasthan of India pandit plan is based on the idea that the West, seeking the benefit of woo-woo rays would buy Yagyas - hence Yagya-factory idea. The Yagya offers the greatest profit margin in the TMO product line. Did you notice how there is no upper limit to the number and types, and cost of yagyas? The sad reality is that as much as has been spent there, much more will be needed, if only to paint the buildings and pay for the air conditioning. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: It actually looks pretty cool. I hope they get enough people to fill it up. The speaker's. cadence. was.pretty.interesting. ..Isuppose...heisbeingself.referral..whenhe... .speaks --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 1:57 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:30 AM, I am the eternal wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From a friend: Asher Ferguson, one of our young Purusha and this past year's MUM Valedictorian, is now working with Bevan in India. He created a delightful slideshow of the rising complex at the Brahmasthan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFUIIag6To Rick, that was fantastic! Gosh, I haven't listen to Movemtentspeak in a few months an forgot that everybody has to speak with that peculiar cadence of Maharishi. You watched the whole thing? I couldn't get past the first minute. I couldn't either. The video drew me in with that picture of the cute sexy young guy, who I assume is the speaker, but his voice makes me wonder what the hell crawled into his head and ate his brain. Do they make them talk like that with some kind of TMO gene injection similar to the gay gene injection used on Peter Griffin? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXka0fmu6OU To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India Your analysis is correct. The americans had their chance. Much of the writings on FFL shows that they wasted this historic chance; that wide open door provided by His Holiness and a few very advanced american souls for that country. Rather, out of immaturity and foolishness the majority chose to close that door so generously provided by Maharishi and the Masters. Never underestimate the Hillbilly-effect ! Nature is very, very patient. But She is not forever patient with stupidity. The Movement belongs to those who move - Maharishi So Nabby, you're from Sweden or some Scandinavian country, right? What has the TM movement in your country done that's so much better than what the US movement has done?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: It actually looks pretty cool. I hope they get enough people to fill it up. The speaker's. cadence. was.pretty.interesting. LOL! I was somewhat irritated by that (,too)! Felt a bit like he was *trying* to sound, well, cool... I would say very detached, an instrument of the divine plan, in the throes of bliss This is what came to mind in the minute I watched.
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On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:02 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Hands off Alex. He belongs to Bevan. What do you suggest now Rick Archer? Of all the dire rumours you have presented on FFL, this must be amongst the lowest. Just kidding Nabby. Bevan has firmly established his reputation as a heterosexual. With who? I still can't put together the stories of him chasing with the Bevan I've seen. He acts and talks like a flaming gay. Sal
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: I couldn't listen past about one minute. But it appeared to be going from blissful this, to very blissful that, to very, very blissful this and that. I don't know where it was going to end, but I'm thinking he was going to have to invent some new superlatives at the rate he was going. I watched the whole thing with fascination. The building project impresses me as an attempt to preserve a dying aspect of Indian culture and religion. I don't know the back story of the pundit boys, so I don't know if they are being saved from far shittier jobs or are being exploited into focusing on a skill which is basically unmarketable when they probably should be learning how to design circuit boards. But the concept of preserving the tradition of chanting in a world that couldn't care less mostly appeals to me. As wrong as I may think Maharishi is in his interpretation of what the whole Vedic chanting thing means, it is a beautiful tradition and I hope it doesn't die too soon. It is a link to part of our human past. The young Purusha man who narrated it was the Valedictorian (a word I could not spell without spell-check assistance!) which means that aside form being earnest and a good doobie, he is a very bright kid. I understand this phase of his intellectual life, but I can't help thinking that he could do better. Parroting the phrases of Maharishi instead of his own thoughts disappointed me, knowing full well the self-satisfied buzz of repeating words that you believe are absolutely RIGHT! There were a few specific areas I want to comment on. In the written intro he claims: The atmosphere here is absolutely incredible! I can feel that the Vedic Pandits are blessing the whole world. All we need is 8000 and then the world's problems will simply fade away - just like turning on the light instantly eliminates the darkness... My problem is that he is confusing his feelings with his beliefs. Of course they feed each, other but here he is using this feeling as the basis of the belief because it sounds more solid than to say the truth that someone TOLD him that their singing has an effect on the world. This critical erosion between fact and fantasy will plague him in his thinking until he gets out of the trance state that mushes these distinctions into one big happy feeling. Believing that feeling strongly about something makes it more likely to be true, Truthiness ,is a term of derision, not a celebration of enlightenment. In the slide show he claims that the feeling of the pundits were more powerful than the temple, again reiterating the belief that Maharishi's teaching is occupying the top bunk in the prison of religion and spirituality, and if anyone is going to have to leave the cell to turn tricks for cigarettes, it will be the punk religion. (Sorry for the prison analogy but I just finished watching one of those gritty MSNBC specials on the prison code so that is what comes to mind!) It is an aside that implies the hierarchy that we know is in Maharishi's teaching without having to say Religion go to the top tier in cell block 7 and service 'Big Dog's' big dog for a couple of Lucky Strikes. Then come on back so I can hit ya where the good Lord split ya, after you toss my salad, and before I lose your puck ass in my next card game with the Aryan Brotherhood. (Top that Bukowski!) Finally I would like to object to the claim that the pundit boys are somehow specially full of happiness and bliss implying it has ANYTHING to do with what they are all up to. I do shows for inner city kids with crack moms and they exude the same charm. Its called being a freak'n kid. It is what they are. Making a big deal about it in the context of any Maharishi school (before they grow up and discover kine bud, tip of the hat to Kirk) is ridiculous and insulting to humanity and our intelligence. In fact taking credit for TM people being cheerful because they go to bed early and take plenty of naps is also self-serving and deceptive. Oh the peaceless and suffering humanity as Maharishi condescends. They hold freak'n jobs wile raising kids without an institutional support of nap time which conveniently also gets them away from the very demanding job of raising a human with an insatiable need to grow neural networks by asking what is that and why? about everything in their line of vision for 14 hours a day. Oh yeah, one last last thing. Asher, don't give up on girls (or boys if that is your thing.) Your intelligence may make you feel a bit awkward, but you will find your groove in time if you practice. From the perspective of decades in your future, you will NEVER remember a particularly blissful meditation, but you will laugh out loud every time you think about getting deliciously drunk on a bottle of cheap Riesling with that saucy German au pair, and trying to make
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curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: snip From the perspective of decades in your future, you will NEVER remember a particularly blissful meditation, but you will laugh out loud every time you think about getting deliciously drunk on a bottle of cheap Riesling with that saucy German au pair, and trying to make love quietly between giggles under the bedroom of her hosting family. Good advice to the young man!
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i actually thought the video was more grounded than what the TMO used to produce, and the building project is impressive and ambitious. the only thing that got me was that the speaker said at least 4 times how the buildings stretch as far as the eye can see. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: I couldn't listen past about one minute. But it appeared to be going from blissful this, to very blissful that, to very, very blissful this and that. I don't know where it was going to end, but I'm thinking he was going to have to invent some new superlatives at the rate he was going. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From a friend: Asher Ferguson, one of our young Purusha and this past year's MUM Valedictorian, is now working with Bevan in India. He created a delightful slideshow of the rising complex at the Brahmasthan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFUIIag6To Asher writes: The atmosphere here is absolutely incredible! I can feel that the Vedic Pandits are blessing the whole world. All we need is 8000 and then the world's problems will simply fade away - just like turning on the light instantly eliminates the darkness... Wishing you all the very best, Jai Guru Dev
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: I watched the whole thing with fascination. The building project impresses me as an attempt to preserve a dying aspect of Indian culture and religion. I don't know the back story of the pundit boys, so I don't know if they are being saved from far shittier jobs or are being exploited into focusing on a skill which is basically unmarketable when they probably should be learning how to design circuit boards. But the concept of preserving the tradition of chanting in a world that couldn't care less mostly appeals to me. As wrong as I may think Maharishi is in his interpretation of what the whole Vedic chanting thing means, it is a beautiful tradition and I hope it doesn't die too soon. It is a link to part of our human past. I have similar thoughts. And I think the TMO is missing the boat in terms of the way they could cast these projects. They could have quite wide appeal amongst green, multi-cultural, diversity loving hip people -- the starbucks, i-pod, world music generation. As, an example: The pitch (rambling first draft) The Interconnectivity and Sustainability Project The Project is about saving an endangered ancient cultural tradition that deeply embraces diversity and expores the interconnectedness of all things. All ancient cultures should be preserved as part of our rich global cultural heritage. The Project focuses on the ancient Vedic culture of India -- its ceremonies, art, architecture, song and dance that become living documents from the past, enlivening the richness, diversity and interconnectedness of this particular intriguing ancient culture. The Project seeks to establish a Williamsberg replication of this culture -- breathing life into forgotten traditions. It is as if its a vast performance art pieces, that seek to fully engage and include the audience as part of the performance. It explores in great detail its vision of the commonality of all people and all things in a vast web of Consciousness -- seen as the core source of thought, inspiration and achievements -- as well as natural process and rhythms. The Project uses the myriad of ancient methods and technologies that this culture utilized to explore all realms of Consciousness -- and in doing so -- to live in dynamic harmony with all peoples and nature. Its particular focus on sustainability is quite relevant for the modern age. Touring the various project sites, you will see full life replicas ancient architecture that seeks to connect its inhabitants with all of nature -- and ancient ceremonies that promise world peace and individual prosperity. Educational methods seeking to address the whole human person and spirit. And even the political methods of that day, you will see rajas dressed in the ancient garb, and attending to national and global affairs as prescribed by this ancient culture -- and its emphasis on ruling from the domain of Consciousness. The Project is open to the speculations and mystical insights of this culture. It raises some utterly astounding hypotheses -- such as how global peace and prosperity can be created even from chaos and suffering. While the core of the Project is focused on preserving the culture, these ancient speculations and insights are viewed respectfully and carefully. It is possible they present seeds of wisdom that can enliven the world community, its diversity and its inter-connectiveness. Thus the project has an experimental component. These ancient cultural traditions are both preserved and tested -- to explore their potential effectiveness in providing solutions to our ever complex modern society. If yoo are interested in learning more about the Project, or seek to contribute time or resources to its many goals, please contact
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Your analysis is correct. The americans had their chance. Much of the writings on FFL shows that they wasted this historic chance; that wide open door provided by His Holiness and a few very advanced american souls for that country. Rather, out of immaturity and foolishness the majority chose to close that door so generously provided by Maharishi and the Masters. Never underestimate the Hillbilly-effect ! Nature is very, very patient. But She is not forever patient with stupidity. The Movement belongs to those who move - Maharishi So Nabby, you're from Sweden or some Scandinavian country, right? What has the TM movement in your country done that's so much better than what the US movement has done? That is a very good question Rick. To answer this I would say that the scandinavian countries did less than the americans did. Much less. At least in terms of building up India or bringing the Knowledge to all corners of the earth or usher in the Age of Enlightenment. Who invited Him into their homes in 1956 ? The americans did. Who started research on consciousness and TM; the americans did. Idealistic, bright and dynamic Americans, souls applying for Discipleship and Initiation into the knowledge of the Masters of Wiwsdom did everything they possibly could do when the Scandinavians souls, with a few excemptions, simply were onlookers. Compared to Americans, many now solidly on the path to further Initiations, the Scandinavians did shamefully little. Many there missed this rare carmic opportunity. After His first travel to the Scandinavian countries Maharishi was asked about His impression of these countries and He said: Norway is Sattva, Sweden Rajas and Denmark Tamas. My rant about America and americans versus the TMO must be seen in this light: The Americans where the first in the West to acknowledge His world-transforming teaching and His mission in creating The Age of Enlightenment for all to enjoy. In many ways they are the chosen people who, in the eternal Akasha Chronicles will be remembered for their role in transforming this earth into Heaven. In that country, The United States of America, Maharishi found those few, evolved, ready souls He needed to bring the blessings of Brahmananda Saraswathi to the whole world. For this the Americans are forever blessed and their role firmly recorded in the eternal Akasha Chronicles. If I left a different impression about this theme, I am very sorry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: What you wrote was totally brilliant and will NEVER happen because it contained the humility that the KNOWERS of reality will never assume. Modern people can smell arrogance a mile away and it never sells. They just can't give up their inflated self-perception that they know more than any other human about life because their master told them so. I watched the whole thing with fascination. The building project impresses me as an attempt to preserve a dying aspect of Indian culture and religion. I don't know the back story of the pundit boys, so I don't know if they are being saved from far shittier jobs or are being exploited into focusing on a skill which is basically unmarketable when they probably should be learning how to design circuit boards. But the concept of preserving the tradition of chanting in a world that couldn't care less mostly appeals to me. As wrong as I may think Maharishi is in his interpretation of what the whole Vedic chanting thing means, it is a beautiful tradition and I hope it doesn't die too soon. It is a link to part of our human past. I have similar thoughts. And I think the TMO is missing the boat in terms of the way they could cast these projects. They could have quite wide appeal amongst green, multi-cultural, diversity loving hip people -- the starbucks, i-pod, world music generation. As, an example: The pitch (rambling first draft) The Interconnectivity and Sustainability Project The Project is about saving an endangered ancient cultural tradition that deeply embraces diversity and expores the interconnectedness of all things. All ancient cultures should be preserved as part of our rich global cultural heritage. The Project focuses on the ancient Vedic culture of India -- its ceremonies, art, architecture, song and dance that become living documents from the past, enlivening the richness, diversity and interconnectedness of this particular intriguing ancient culture. The Project seeks to establish a Williamsberg replication of this culture -- breathing life into forgotten traditions. It is as if its a vast performance art pieces, that seek to fully engage and include the audience as part of the performance. It explores in great detail its vision of the commonality of all people and all things in a vast web of Consciousness -- seen as the core source of thought, inspiration and achievements -- as well as natural process and rhythms. The Project uses the myriad of ancient methods and technologies that this culture utilized to explore all realms of Consciousness -- and in doing so -- to live in dynamic harmony with all peoples and nature. Its particular focus on sustainability is quite relevant for the modern age. Touring the various project sites, you will see full life replicas ancient architecture that seeks to connect its inhabitants with all of nature -- and ancient ceremonies that promise world peace and individual prosperity. Educational methods seeking to address the whole human person and spirit. And even the political methods of that day, you will see rajas dressed in the ancient garb, and attending to national and global affairs as prescribed by this ancient culture -- and its emphasis on ruling from the domain of Consciousness. The Project is open to the speculations and mystical insights of this culture. It raises some utterly astounding hypotheses -- such as how global peace and prosperity can be created even from chaos and suffering. While the core of the Project is focused on preserving the culture, these ancient speculations and insights are viewed respectfully and carefully. It is possible they present seeds of wisdom that can enliven the world community, its diversity and its inter-connectiveness. Thus the project has an experimental component. These ancient cultural traditions are both preserved and tested -- to explore their potential effectiveness in providing solutions to our ever complex modern society. If yoo are interested in learning more about the Project, or seek to contribute time or resources to its many goals, please contact
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On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:26 AM, grate. swan no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I have similar thoughts. And I think the TMO is missing the boat in terms of the way they could cast these projects. They could have quite wide appeal amongst green, multi-cultural, diversity loving hip people -- the starbucks, i-pod, world music generation. Actually, this, minus the sustainability angle, is the way Yagna by Choice presents its community to the UN, as preserving an ages-long tradition.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: What you wrote was totally brilliant and will NEVER happen because it contained the humility that the KNOWERS of reality will never assume. Modern people can smell arrogance a mile away and it never sells. They just can't give up their inflated self-perception that they know more than any other human about life because their master told them so. - There is a Perennial Philosophy. Too bad most adherents also belong to The Church of Absolute Truth. However, a David Lynch type grounded one could emerge to champion the below interpretation. Sort of a wrapper function -- who presents the TMO and its absolutism and ideologic ethos and MO (which is the inverse of OM) as part of the living out, acting out of the confidence that the ancients had in their world view. The TMO is part of the show. Bit actors reading their lines. Thus, the TMO is part of the performance art piece. The wrapper function MC explains this to the audience neutralizing the arrogance of the TMO. And if the MC is paying its own bills, and fund raising under is own momentum -- as David is doing -- the TMO will passively sit and --unable to do much, and enjoying the ride -- smile. I watched the whole thing with fascination. The building project impresses me as an attempt to preserve a dying aspect of Indian culture and religion. I don't know the back story of the pundit boys, so I don't know if they are being saved from far shittier jobs or are being exploited into focusing on a skill which is basically unmarketable when they probably should be learning how to design circuit boards. But the concept of preserving the tradition of chanting in a world that couldn't care less mostly appeals to me. As wrong as I may think Maharishi is in his interpretation of what the whole Vedic chanting thing means, it is a beautiful tradition and I hope it doesn't die too soon. It is a link to part of our human past. I have similar thoughts. And I think the TMO is missing the boat in terms of the way they could cast these projects. They could have quite wide appeal amongst green, multi-cultural, diversity loving hip people -- the starbucks, i-pod, world music generation. As, an example: The pitch (rambling first draft) The Interconnectivity and Sustainability Project The Project is about saving an endangered ancient cultural tradition that deeply embraces diversity and expores the interconnectedness of all things. All ancient cultures should be preserved as part of our rich global cultural heritage. The Project focuses on the ancient Vedic culture of India -- its ceremonies, art, architecture, song and dance that become living documents from the past, enlivening the richness, diversity and interconnectedness of this particular intriguing ancient culture. The Project seeks to establish a Williamsberg replication of this culture -- breathing life into forgotten traditions. It is as if its a vast performance art pieces, that seek to fully engage and include the audience as part of the performance. It explores in great detail its vision of the commonality of all people and all things in a vast web of Consciousness -- seen as the core source of thought, inspiration and achievements -- as well as natural process and rhythms. The Project uses the myriad of ancient methods and technologies that this culture utilized to explore all realms of Consciousness -- and in doing so -- to live in dynamic harmony with all peoples and nature. Its particular focus on sustainability is quite relevant for the modern age. Touring the various project sites, you will see full life replicas ancient architecture that seeks to connect its inhabitants with all of nature -- and ancient ceremonies that promise world peace and individual prosperity. Educational methods seeking to address the whole human person and spirit. And even the political methods of that day, you will see rajas dressed in the ancient garb, and attending to national and global affairs as prescribed by this ancient culture -- and its emphasis on ruling from the domain of Consciousness. The Project is open to the speculations and mystical insights of this culture. It raises some utterly astounding hypotheses -- such as how global peace and prosperity can be created even from chaos and suffering. While the core of the Project is focused on preserving the culture, these ancient speculations and insights are viewed respectfully and carefully. It is possible they present seeds of wisdom that can enliven the world community, its diversity and its
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: What you wrote was totally brilliant... Absofuckinglutely, dude. May I say that I am *SO* happy to have your evolved soul and Oscar Wilde-like wit among us here at Fairfield Life. If you feel like it sometime, please fill us in on a little of your history. No intrusion intended, merely curiosity. I just would love to know what factors in your life led you to being so cool. :-) ...and will NEVER happen because it contained the humility that the KNOWERS of reality will never assume. Modern people can smell arrogance a mile away and it never sells. I wouldn't say never. I met The Donald once. Arrogance and lingering Pharoah-complex-from-another-life in spades. It sold very well, until rec- ently. One will see in the future whether the combover of arrogance is able to withstand the winds of change. They just can't give up their inflated self-perception that they know more than any other human about life because their master told them so. If, as I suspect, you can step back and see *yourself* as the dog in this scenario, you *remember* what it was like to live within the cocoon of this inflated self-perception. You *remember* what it was like to believe that you knew more than the peons around you. That *ability* to remember, IMO, gives us an advantage over those who are not *able* to tell that that's their current state of attention. It *allows* us to step back and look at the hideously center-of-the-universe fantasies of those who are still lost in this mindset, hav- ing both been there and then washing our hands, leaving the bathroom, and thrown the paper towel in the trash, having done that. There was a time when I believed this stuff, too. Even though I can only PRAY that I was never as much of an Evil Dead 2 cast member as this guy. At my *worst* I was overenthusiastic and over-programmed, but not to the point of sounding like Leonard Nimoy on smack like this guy. I walked from the TM movement over 25 years ago. At that point, this guy would have stood out in the crowd, and would have been perceived by MOST people as gone, over the top, lost in a fantasy world that had no relationship to even what even the TBs around him considered reality. Now, he sounds better than the Rajas do. He, at least, is not trying to convince Germans to embrace Invincible Germany. He is not trying to convince world leaders to tear down their capital cities and then rebuild them from the ground up according to Vedic principles. He's just waxing blissed-out-edly about seeing a few brown boys and projecting as much positivity onto them as he can possibly muster up. Can you *imagine* how this fellow would really *react* to the German au pair coming on to him, the babe who Curtis suggested? IMO, based on this one well-meant but IMO Jonestown-like slide show, he would have shrunk back in horror from the well-meaning German hausfrau, and considered her one of Satan's Minions, sent to tempt him away from the One Path, the Highest Path, the Pathway To Enlightenment That Only We Know About. She would be a ho from the hell worlds, sent here to tempt him into their fiery depths. Call me a non-knower of reality, but Dude!, given the choice of seeing the German au pair peel off the layers of her clothing and watch- ing the pundit boys peel off the layers of Maya by chanting Vedic verses between puffs of ganja, I'm gonna to go every time for the German hausfrau. But that's just the kinda lowlife scum I am.
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On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:42 AM, mainstream20016 wrote: Cool it is not. Apparently the climate is unbearable much of the year. Did you catch the this building has air conditioning accolade ? Girish Varma and Raja Kaplan are doing their best to convince Bevan and the Westerners to continue subsidizing the White Elephant in the middle of nowhere. I think the Westerners are waking up and doubt the efficacy of the place. The Brahmasthan of India pandit plan is based on the idea that the West, seeking the benefit of woo-woo rays would buy Yagyas - hence Yagya-factory idea. The Yagya offers the greatest profit margin in the TMO product line. Did you notice how there is no upper limit to the number and types, and cost of yagyas? The sad reality is that as much as has been spent there, much more will be needed, if only to paint the buildings and pay for the air conditioning. What these buildings actually look like to me are motels. Cheap motels of poured concrete with one window and an Indian-styled facade. Similar to what the Muktananda people did but they used existing Catskill hotels. I spoke at length to his successor and he said to me that what ended up happening was spirituality became a business. Instead of being one-pointedly engaged in sadhana, he and his sister were always just worrying about money and the mortgages on all their properties! So he up and left.
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On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: What these buildings actually look like to me are motels. Cheap motels of poured concrete with one window and an Indian-styled facade. And these cheap motel like building differ from the modular buildings brought into VC in what way? That the ones in VC are designed for the definite 4 seasons of Iowa? That there's a lot more land in VC versus the intended number of pundits? OK, what else?
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On Mar 8, 2009, at 10:28 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: There were a few specific areas I want to comment on. In the written intro he claims: The atmosphere here is absolutely incredible! I can feel that the Vedic Pandits are blessing the whole world. All we need is 8000 and then the world's problems will simply fade away - just like turning on the light instantly eliminates the darkness... Curtis, do you remember during the TOU Course, when Purusha was singing that silly song about When we get 7000 we'll throw away the foam... or something along those lines? And then when they got over 8000, they immediately switched to, When we get *10,000* we'll throw away the foam... Oops. Sal
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On Mar 8, 2009, at 10:28 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Finally I would like to object to the claim that the pundit boys are somehow specially full of happiness and bliss implying it has ANYTHING to do with what they are all up to. I do shows for inner city kids with crack moms and they exude the same charm. Maybe they're secretly pundits when they go home. Its called being a freak'n kid. It is what they are. Making a big deal about it in the context of any Maharishi school (before they grow up and discover kine bud, tip of the hat to Kirk) is ridiculous and insulting to humanity and our intelligence. Are you saying that the video was, in effect, *lying,* Curtis??? Wonder how long it'll take Judy to jump on this one...don't think I'll wait around for that to happen. Sal
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On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote: Curtis, do you remember during the TOU Course, when Purusha was singing that silly song about When we get 7000 we'll throw away the foam... or something along those lines? And then when they got over 8000, they immediately switched to, When we get *10,000* we'll throw away the foam... Oops. Sal Actually, it's the next stages in achievement of the flying sutra that scares me. What do you do if you can fly in the air, almost? I mean like you're 50 stories in the air and your engines cut out. Has the TMO thought that far?
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On Mar 8, 2009, at 2:00 PM, I am the eternal wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: What these buildings actually look like to me are motels. Cheap motels of poured concrete with one window and an Indian-styled facade. And these cheap motel like building differ from the modular buildings brought into VC in what way? That the ones in VC are designed for the definite 4 seasons of Iowa? That there's a lot more land in VC versus the intended number of pundits? OK, what else? I was struck on the BBC meditation video, where they go to Maharishi Vedic City (as they called it) of not only how obviously whacky some of the people seemed and how vata-deranged the Johnsons seemed but how disorganized the place looked just driving around. (The Johnson's seemed like Nazi's trying to be polite to the Jew who showed up at the Fuerher's birthday party) For an org that prides itself on it's self- organizing power it looked like a place I would not want to live. It certainly didn't look at all like the neat mandalic pictures one saw before it was built.
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On Mar 8, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Vaj wrote: I was struck on the BBC meditation video, where they go to Maharishi Vedic City (as they called it) of not only how obviously whacky some of the people seemed and how vata-deranged the Johnsons seemed but how disorganized the place looked just driving around. (The Johnson's seemed like Nazi's trying to be polite to the Jew who showed up at the Fuerher's birthday party) LOL... For an org that prides itself on it's self-organizing power it looked like a place I would not want to live. It certainly didn't look at all like the neat mandalic pictures one saw before it was built. What I found a bit disconcerting the one day I drove around there with a friend from out-of-town was that there nobody outside, anywhere, despite the fact that it was a beautiful, sunny day. Can't remember if it was a weekday or not, so people could have theoretically been working...but, even so, *nobody* outside? Is enjoying the sun also considered OTP? Sal
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On Mar 8, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: What I found a bit disconcerting the one day I drove around there with a friend from out-of-town was that there nobody outside, anywhere, despite the fact that it was a beautiful, sunny day. Can't remember if it was a weekday or not, so people could have theoretically been working...but, even so, *nobody* outside? Is enjoying the sun also considered OTP? IIRC that's the exact way it was in the BBC vid. Deserted. Left Behind could have been filmed there with no advance warning. It certainly didn't look like where the Vedic June and Ward Cleaver would have lived.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Mar 8, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Vaj wrote: I was struck on the BBC meditation video, where they go to Maharishi Vedic City (as they called it) of not only how obviously whacky some of the people seemed and how vata-deranged the Johnsons seemed but how disorganized the place looked just driving around. (The Johnson's seemed like Nazi's trying to be polite to the Jew who showed up at the Fuerher's birthday party) LOL... For an org that prides itself on it's self-organizing power it looked like a place I would not want to live. It certainly didn't look at all like the neat mandalic pictures one saw before it was built. What I found a bit disconcerting the one day I drove around there with a friend from out-of-town was that there nobody outside, anywhere, despite the fact that it was a beautiful, sunny day. Can't remember if it was a weekday or not, so people could have theoretically been working...but, even so, *nobody* outside? Is enjoying the sun also considered OTP? Sal Well, you see, Vaastu puts its residents in total harmony with nature. That harmony is disturbed if they actually go outside into nature. Going outside to get in touch with nature is for those of the underclass who can't afford Vaastu.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Your analysis is correct. The americans had their chance. Much of the writings on FFL shows that they wasted this historic chance; that wide open door provided by His Holiness and a few very advanced american souls for that country. Rather, out of immaturity and foolishness the majority chose to close that door so generously provided by Maharishi and the Masters. Never underestimate the Hillbilly-effect ! Nature is very, very patient. But She is not forever patient with stupidity. The Movement belongs to those who move - Maharishi So Nabby, you're from Sweden or some Scandinavian country, right? What has the TM movement in your country done that's so much better than what the US movement has done? That is a very good question Rick. To answer this I would say that the scandinavian countries did less than the americans did. Much less. At least in terms of building up India or bringing the Knowledge to all corners of the earth or usher in the Age of Enlightenment. Who invited Him into their homes in 1956 ? The americans did. Who started research on consciousness and TM; the americans did. Idealistic, bright and dynamic Americans, souls applying for Discipleship and Initiation into the knowledge of the Masters of Wiwsdom did everything they possibly could do when the Scandinavians souls, with a few excemptions, simply were onlookers. Compared to Americans, many now solidly on the path to further Initiations, the Scandinavians did shamefully little. Many there missed this rare carmic opportunity. After His first travel to the Scandinavian countries Maharishi was asked about His impression of these countries and He said: Norway is Sattva, Sweden Rajas and Denmark Tamas. My rant about America and americans versus the TMO must be seen in this light: The Americans where the first in the West to acknowledge His world-transforming teaching and His mission in creating The Age of Enlightenment for all to enjoy. In many ways they are the chosen people who, in the eternal Akasha Chronicles will be remembered for their role in transforming this earth into Heaven. In that country, The United States of America, Maharishi found those few, evolved, ready souls He needed to bring the blessings of Brahmananda Saraswathi to the whole world. For this the Americans are forever blessed and their role firmly recorded in the eternal Akasha Chronicles. If I left a different impression about this theme, I am very sorry. Nab, you are a very funny guy. That's a 'compliment' with an awful lot of backhand in it. There's just no response to this stuff... JohnY
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On Mar 8, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Vaj wrote: On Mar 8, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: What I found a bit disconcerting the one day I drove around there with a friend from out-of-town was that there nobody outside, anywhere, despite the fact that it was a beautiful, sunny day. Can't remember if it was a weekday or not, so people could have theoretically been working...but, even so, *nobody* outside? Is enjoying the sun also considered OTP? IIRC that's the exact way it was in the BBC vid. Deserted. Left Behind could have been filmed there with no advance warning. It certainly didn't look like where the Vedic June and Ward Cleaver would have lived. LOL, Left Behind sounds about right could be a stage set for Village Of The Damned also. Sal
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On Mar 8, 2009, at 5:31 PM, grate.swan wrote: What I found a bit disconcerting the one day I drove around there with a friend from out-of-town was that there nobody outside, anywhere, despite the fact that it was a beautiful, sunny day. Can't remember if it was a weekday or not, so people could have theoretically been working...but, even so, *nobody* outside? Is enjoying the sun also considered OTP? Sal Well, you see, Vaastu puts its residents in total harmony with nature. That harmony is disturbed if they actually go outside into nature. Going outside to get in touch with nature is for those of the underclass who can't afford Vaastu. LOL...yep, the great unwashed masses...like most of us here. Sal
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: Curtis, do you remember during the TOU Course, when Purusha was singing that silly song about When we get 7000 we'll throw away the foam... or something along those lines? And then when they got over 8000, they immediately switched to, When we get *10,000* we'll throw away the foam... Oops. Sal That is really funny! I did wonder that they said the pundit boys were flying but didn't see any foam. If bouncing on foam hurts our backs I wonder how it is bouncing on dirt. Sucks to live in the third world even with some first world guru money! On Mar 8, 2009, at 10:28 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: There were a few specific areas I want to comment on. In the written intro he claims: The atmosphere here is absolutely incredible! I can feel that the Vedic Pandits are blessing the whole world. All we need is 8000 and then the world's problems will simply fade away - just like turning on the light instantly eliminates the darkness... Curtis, do you remember during the TOU Course, when Purusha was singing that silly song about When we get 7000 we'll throw away the foam... or something along those lines? And then when they got over 8000, they immediately switched to, When we get *10,000* we'll throw away the foam... Oops. Sal
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Comments from a friend not on FFL: Man, this guy from the slideshow sounds dull. I've visited this place last year after Maharishis cremation. It's a extremely dry desert like area in the middle of nowhere. There is this little landmark from the government indicating the middle of India and Maharishi claimed to have found the real middle of India about 500 meter from the official site. Probably because he was not allowed to put the official site under construction. This whole undertaking is so absurd. Training poor kids to become praying robots. Transferring huge amounts of money (that's easy to corrupt) and building stuff that will be definitely devastated in a few years. Who needs 16000 pundits? World peace absolutely not!
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On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: I was struck on the BBC meditation video, where they go to Maharishi Vedic City (as they called it) of not only how obviously whacky some of the people seemed and how vata-deranged the Johnsons seemed but how disorganized the place looked just driving around. Hold on here. Chris Johnson vata deranged? Heck when Chris has the time he and I sit down and listening to him speak is like trying to be patient for an old country boy stretching every bit of his story out. I never ever thought of Chris as vata anything. OTOH, I can see that he doesn't take kindly to being bothered. I'd expect him to get easily flustered when the wind shifts, which I suspect is the reason he appears to thrive in that office of his taking things very sssooowwwlll.
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On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:04 PM, I am the eternal wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: I was struck on the BBC meditation video, where they go to Maharishi Vedic City (as they called it) of not only how obviously whacky some of the people seemed and how vata-deranged the Johnsons seemed but how disorganized the place looked just driving around. Hold on here. Chris Johnson vata deranged? Heck when Chris has the time he and I sit down and listening to him speak is like trying to be patient for an old country boy stretching every bit of his story out. I never ever thought of Chris as vata anything. OTOH, I can see that he doesn't take kindly to being bothered. I'd expect him to get easily flustered when the wind shifts, which I suspect is the reason he appears to thrive in that office of his taking things very sssooowwwlll. You could be right, it could just be plain old fear. In any event, they should probably have found a different 'Vedic Ward and June Cleaver'!
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On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:04 PM, I am the eternal wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: You could be right, it could just be plain old fear. In any event, they should probably have found a different 'Vedic Ward and June Cleaver'! Yeah. More like the town's mayor wearing his white silks and Burger Boy King hat. Now that woulda been funny.
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On Mar 8, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Vaj wrote: On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:04 PM, I am the eternal wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: I was struck on the BBC meditation video, where they go to Maharishi Vedic City (as they called it) of not only how obviously whacky some of the people seemed and how vata-deranged the Johnsons seemed but how disorganized the place looked just driving around. Hold on here. Chris Johnson vata deranged? Heck when Chris has the time he and I sit down and listening to him speak is like trying to be patient for an old country boy stretching every bit of his story out. I never ever thought of Chris as vata anything. OTOH, I can see that he doesn't take kindly to being bothered. I'd expect him to get easily flustered when the wind shifts, which I suspect is the reason he appears to thrive in that office of his taking things very sssooowwwlll. You could be right, it could just be plain old fear. In any event, they should probably have found a different 'Vedic Ward and June Cleaver'! Yep, like 'Raja' Bob Wynn. Sal
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of I am the eternal Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net mailto:vajradhatu%40earthlink.net wrote: I was struck on the BBC meditation video, where they go to Maharishi Vedic City (as they called it) of not only how obviously whacky some of the people seemed and how vata-deranged the Johnsons seemed but how disorganized the place looked just driving around. Hold on here. Chris Johnson vata deranged? Heck when Chris has the time he and I sit down and listening to him speak is like trying to be patient for an old country boy stretching every bit of his story out. I never ever thought of Chris as vata anything. OTOH, I can see that he doesn't take kindly to being bothered. I'd expect him to get easily flustered when the wind shifts, which I suspect is the reason he appears to thrive in that office of his taking things very sssooowwwlll. Chris is also a very cool guy, having brought some great rock bands to town and having stood up to Bevan when the latter tried to get him to fire an employee who happened to be an Amma devotee.
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On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: Chris is also a very cool guy, having brought some great rock bands to town and having stood up to Bevan when the latter tried to get him to fire an employee who happened to be an Amma devotee. Oh yes. I wondered whatever happened to her. She was an excellent head of housekeeping. I was of course blown away when she told me that she had gone over to the Dark Side. Chris has this developer image of VC where in every direction there's Temple to the Holy Tradtion, expat Indians thronging to tour, shops, flats and houses all around him. He sees MUM soon not much of anything. But as I've relayed before. my suite for half a year abutted the lobby and was diagonal to Chris' office. I could hear during the hours long con calls Maharish playing Chris against MUM. Maharishi knew how to trade them rugs.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Comments from a friend not on FFL: Man, this guy from the slideshow sounds dull. I've visited this place last year after Maharishis cremation. It's a extremely dry desert like area in the middle of nowhere. There is this little landmark from the government indicating the middle of India and Maharishi claimed to have found the real middle of India about 500 meter from the official site. Probably because he was not allowed to put the official site under construction. This whole undertaking is so absurd. Training poor kids to become praying robots. Transferring huge amounts of money (that's easy to corrupt) and building stuff that will be definitely devastated in a few years. Who needs 16000 pundits? World peace absolutely not! The essense of money laundring is the mispriced transaction .. I'm just saying :/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From a friend: Asher Ferguson, one of our young Purusha and this past year's MUM Valedictorian, is now working with Bevan in India. He created a delightful slideshow of the rising complex at the Brahmasthan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFUIIag6To Rick, that was fantastic! Gosh, I haven't listen to Movemtentspeak in a few months an forgot that everybody has to speak with that peculiar cadence of Maharishi. Hmm. So we don't have 4K, 8K, 16K pundits doing program together at the Brahmasthan. I was lied to. How could someone lie to me? Kinda looks like dorm housing, but then I guess if you're a Pundit you don't mind. This doesn't strike me as something particularly appealing to Westerners, but then if your whole life is dedicated to meditation it really wouldn't matter.
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speaking of people emulating that sing-song cadence, while i occasionally enjoy listening to a few audio tapes i have from the TMO, with the Maharishi speaking on a variety of topics, one of them has a very young Keith Wallace(?) giving an insipid and very dated intro to one of the Maharishi's talks. his voice is so high in his throat, it almost sounds falsetto. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From a friend: Asher Ferguson, one of our young Purusha and this past year's MUM Valedictorian, is now working with Bevan in India. He created a delightful slideshow of the rising complex at the Brahmasthan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFUIIag6To Rick, that was fantastic! Gosh, I haven't listen to Movemtentspeak in a few months an forgot that everybody has to speak with that peculiar cadence of Maharishi. Hmm. So we don't have 4K, 8K, 16K pundits doing program together at the Brahmasthan. I was lied to. How could someone lie to me?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: Kinda looks like dorm housing, but then I guess if you're a Pundit you don't mind. This doesn't strike me as something particularly appealing to Westerners, but then if your whole life is dedicated to meditation it really wouldn't matter. And If heard it right, there are only six raja houses. to house how many rajas? 50-60? So ten or so per house. Like a frat house. (Or perhaps sorority house Will you PLEASE stop hogging the mirror. You are NOT the only one who has to adjust their crown - so its just PERFECT. And probably one of the six houses will be sort of Animal House clones. One guy driving his chariot inside and up the stairs. Nor giving a rats ass about double secret probation that the stiff ass raja's in house One keep trying to enforce.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: Kinda looks like dorm housing, but then I guess if you're a Pundit you don't mind. This doesn't strike me as something particularly appealing to Westerners, but then if your whole life is dedicated to meditation it really wouldn't matter. And If heard it right, there are only six raja houses. to house how many rajas? 50-60? So ten or so per house. Like a frat house. (Or perhaps sorority house Will you PLEASE stop hogging the mirror. You are NOT the only one who has to adjust their crown - so its just PERFECT. And probably one of the six houses will be sort of Animal House clones. One guy driving his chariot inside and up the stairs. Nor giving a rats ass about double secret probation that the stiff ass raja's in house One keep trying to enforce. Raja Bluto: See if you can guess what I am now. [puts cottage cheese ball in his mouth and hits his cheeks with his fists and spits it out] Raja Bluto: I'm a zit. Get it? Raja Boon: It's not gonna be an orgy! It's a toga party. Rajini Katy: Honestly, Boon, you're twenty-one years old. In six months you're going to graduate, and tomorrow night you're going to wrap yourself in a bed sheet and pour grain alcohol all over your head. It's cute, but I think I'll pass this time. Raja Boon: Want me to go alone? Rajini Katy: Baby, I don't want you to go at all. Raja Boon: It's a *fraternity* party, I'm in the fraternity. How can I miss it? Rajini Katy: I'll write you a note. I'll say you're too well to attend. Raja Bluto: TOGA! TOGA! Raja D-Day: War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one. Raja Bluto: Over? Did you say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! Raja Otter: Germans? Raja Boon: Forget it, he's rolling. Raja Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough... [thinks hard] Raja Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go! [runs out, alone; then returns] Raja Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Darshan House I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Raja Bluto, we might get in trouble. Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer... Raja Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part. Raja Bluto: We're just the guys to do it. Raja D-Day: Let's do it. Raja Bluto: *Let's do it*!
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It's nice to see that Girish is spending the money at least enough to look like he's spiritually intending to be a god-guy, but on the other hand, maybe these unfinished building are being used to fleece thousands of true believers who think that their donation will be the one that makes these building get finished. Like all the pundit money raised in FF that disappeared without any pudits arriving, are these buildings being held hostage and will be held so for years before the buildings are finished? Or, does Girish have a scam that even makes money from the poor of India? Frankly as the years pass and I get the cult out of my system, I find these photographs and the whole village to be a very sad situation. Am I wrong when I think that these pundits are all poor folks who are getting three meals a day and that's enough for them to pose as pundits, but who are actually, you know, smoking ganga whenever Girish's henchmen aren't around? It is a bitter cynicism above, probably very unfair, but when the TMO will not stand up to questioning, all suspicions rise to likely possibilities. Have any of the Rajas tried to publicly announce that Girish is the new leader of the movement who controls the Rajas, King Tony, Bevan? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:30 AM, I am the eternal wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From a friend: Asher Ferguson, one of our young Purusha and this past year's MUM Valedictorian, is now working with Bevan in India. He created a delightful slideshow of the rising complex at the Brahmasthan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFUIIag6To Rick, that was fantastic! Gosh, I haven't listen to Movemtentspeak in a few months an forgot that everybody has to speak with that peculiar cadence of Maharishi. You watched the whole thing? I couldn't get past the first minute. Delightful, Rick, according to your friend? Oh, my. Hmm. So we don't have 4K, 8K, 16K pundits doing program together at the Brahmasthan. I was lied to. How could someone lie to me?
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Am I wrong when I think that these pundits are all poor folks who are getting three meals a day and that's enough for them to pose as pundits, but who are actually, you know, smoking ganga whenever Girish's henchmen aren't around? Some of them do exactly that, or cigarettes when they can get them. And most chew betel leaf or nut, which is illegal in the US 'cause it's so potent.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From a friend: Asher Ferguson, one of our young Purusha and this past year's MUM Valedictorian, is now working with Bevan in India. He created a delightful slideshow of the rising complex at the Brahmasthan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFUIIag6To Asher writes: The atmosphere here is absolutely incredible! I can feel that the Vedic Pandits are blessing the whole world. All we need is 8000 and then the world's problems will simply fade away - just like turning on the light instantly eliminates the darkness... Wishing you all the very best, Jai Guru Dev Rick, thanks for posting this. http://tinyurl.com/d3dnb3
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: And If heard it right, there are only six raja houses. to house how many rajas? 50-60? So ten or so per house. Like a frat house. These reactions are to expected. A huge compound of several thousand buildings is being erected in India as we speak that will house not only 80,000 Pundits but most of the Western Movement as well. Why are americans going nuts, writing like this great swan just did ? Because Fairfield soon will be inhabited only by hangers-on and spiritual vampires, followers of this and that minor socalled guru and the original non-meditating population ? Probably. But it goes deeper than that. The americans are slowly and painfully realizing that they are no longer at the centre of the universe. The world has moved on thanks to the great efforts and personal sacrifies of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. http://tinyurl.com/d3dnb3
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: And If heard it right, there are only six raja houses. to house how many rajas? 50-60? So ten or so per house. Like a frat house. These reactions are to expected. A huge compound of several thousand buildings is being erected in India as we speak that will house not only 80,000 Pundits but most of the Western Movement as well. Why are americans going nuts, writing like this great swan just did ? Because Fairfield soon will be inhabited only by hangers-on and spiritual vampires, followers of this and that minor socalled guru and the original non-meditating population ? Probably. Are you predicting the failure of MUM, Nabby?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: And If heard it right, there are only six raja houses. to house how many rajas? 50-60? So ten or so per house. Like a frat house. These reactions are to expected. A huge compound of several thousand buildings is being erected in India as we speak that will house not only 80,000 Pundits but most of the Western Movement as well. Why are americans going nuts, writing like this great swan just did ? Because Fairfield soon will be inhabited only by hangers-on and spiritual vampires, followers of this and that minor socalled guru and the original non-meditating population ? Probably. Are you predicting the failure of MUM, Nabby? I am questioning the deserving ability of the americans. MUM has a glorious future. But not necessarily in Fairfield.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:30 AM, I am the eternal wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From a friend: Asher Ferguson, one of our young Purusha and this past year's MUM Valedictorian, is now working with Bevan in India. He created a delightful slideshow of the rising complex at the Brahmasthan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFUIIag6To Rick, that was fantastic! Gosh, I haven't listen to Movemtentspeak in a few months an forgot that everybody has to speak with that peculiar cadence of Maharishi. You watched the whole thing? I couldn't get past the first minute. I couldn't either. The video drew me in with that picture of the cute sexy young guy, who I assume is the speaker, but his voice makes me wonder what the hell crawled into his head and ate his brain. Do they make them talk like that with some kind of TMO gene injection similar to the gay gene injection used on Peter Griffin? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXka0fmu6OU
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India Are you predicting the failure of MUM, Nabby? I am questioning the deserving ability of the americans. MUM has a glorious future. But not necessarily in Fairfield. Do you realize how much construction has been done there, how many people own homes in FF (many of the true-blue Ru's), and how impossible it would be to move the whole show? Are you suggesting it move out of the US? Would everyone involved change their citizenship?
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:58 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India I couldn't either. The video drew me in with that picture of the cute sexy young guy, who I assume is the speaker, Hands off Alex. He belongs to Bevan.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India Are you predicting the failure of MUM, Nabby? I am questioning the deserving ability of the americans. MUM has a glorious future. But not necessarily in Fairfield. Do you realize how much construction has been done there, how many people own homes in FF (many of the true-blue Ru's), and how impossible it would be to move the whole show? Are you suggesting it move out of the US? Would everyone involved change their citizenship? No, but it will probably end up being used for Section 8 housing. Can you imagine?, full of illegal aliens, (and some legal ones too), all Obama voters!
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: And If heard it right, there are only six raja houses. to house how many rajas? 50-60? So ten or so per house. Like a frat house. These reactions are to expected. A huge compound of several thousand buildings is being erected in India as we speak that will house not only 80,000 Pundits but most of the Western Movement as well. Why are americans going nuts, writing like this great swan just did ? Because Fairfield soon will be inhabited only by hangers-on and spiritual vampires, followers of this and that minor socalled guru and the original non-meditating population ? Probably. Are you predicting the failure of MUM, Nabby? I am questioning the deserving ability of the americans. MUM has a glorious future. But not necessarily in Fairfield. Sounds like the geographical cure - when you move, your problems will get there at about the same time- some other place can be as glorious as Fairfield.
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On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India Are you predicting the failure of MUM, Nabby? I am questioning the deserving ability of the americans. MUM has a glorious future. But not necessarily in Fairfield. Do you realize how much construction has been done there, how many people own homes in FF (many of the true-blue Ru's), and how impossible it would be to move the whole show? Are you suggesting it move out of the US? Would everyone involved change their citizenship? It's time to go over the Marshy rainbow to Kansas, Dorothy. That's where it's eventually headed. FF is not at the Brahmasthan of the US and is therefore not ideal for spreading the coherence the pundits and siddhas are generating for world peace.
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On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: I am questioning the deserving ability of the americans. MUM has a glorious future. But not necessarily in Fairfield. Sounds like the geographical cure - when you move, your problems will get there at about the same time- some other place can be as glorious as Fairfield. Actually, it sounds like a good idea. Once upon a time there was this generation in the US which eschewed wealth, was bright, eager, willing go to fight, demonstrate and campaign for a cause. I knew a member of the generation who's father was a noted neurosurgeon but I used to pick him up, in his $100 suit, hitchhiking along the side of the ride to go teach. Now a limited, a very limited number of people can be brought to do program together in FF for a stipend of $700 a month. But India is full of millions of people who come from a tradition of holding sacred meditation, austerities, learning and best of all, obedience to authority. What America had for a few brief years India's got in spades and will have for many years to come. India is an ideal place for the TMO to re-base itself.
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It actually looks pretty cool. I hope they get enough people to fill it up. The speaker's. cadence. was.pretty.interesting. ..Isuppose...heisbeingself.referral..whenhe... .speaks --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 1:57 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:30 AM, I am the eternal wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From a friend: Asher Ferguson, one of our young Purusha and this past year's MUM Valedictorian, is now working with Bevan in India. He created a delightful slideshow of the rising complex at the Brahmasthan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFUIIag6To Rick, that was fantastic! Gosh, I haven't listen to Movemtentspeak in a few months an forgot that everybody has to speak with that peculiar cadence of Maharishi. You watched the whole thing? I couldn't get past the first minute. I couldn't either. The video drew me in with that picture of the cute sexy young guy, who I assume is the speaker, but his voice makes me wonder what the hell crawled into his head and ate his brain. Do they make them talk like that with some kind of TMO gene injection similar to the gay gene injection used on Peter Griffin? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXka0fmu6OU To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:16 PM, I am the eternal wrote: Now a limited, a very limited number of people can be brought to do program together in FF for a stipend of $700 a month. But India is full of millions of people who come from a tradition of holding sacred meditation, austerities, learning and best of all, obedience to authority. What America had for a few brief years India's got in spades and will have for many years to come. India is an ideal place for the TMO to re-base itself. So why isn't is happening? They've had plenty of time. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: And If heard it right, there are only six raja houses. to house how many rajas? 50-60? So ten or so per house. Like a frat house. These reactions are to expected. A huge compound of several thousand buildings is being erected in India as we speak that will house not only 80,000 Pundits but most of the Western Movement as well. Why are americans going nuts, writing like this great swan just did ? Because Fairfield soon will be inhabited only by hangers-on and spiritual vampires, followers of this and that minor socalled guru and the original non-meditating population ? Probably. But it goes deeper than that. The americans are slowly and painfully realizing that they are no longer at the centre of the universe. The world has moved on thanks to the great efforts and personal sacrifies of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. http://tinyurl.com/d3dnb3 Actually Nab, those thousands of buildings, as far as the eye can see... are really due to the 'great efforts and personal sacrifices' of thousands of Americans, their bank accounts, and real estate schemes that that money made possible. Perhaps a more fitting emotion would be gratitude, not scorn. Of course I wouldn't want to contradict the spiritual point of view... JohnY
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Am I wrong when I think that these pundits are all poor folks who are getting three meals a day and that's enough for them to pose as pundits, but who are actually, you know, smoking ganga whenever Girish's henchmen aren't around? Some of them do exactly that, or cigarettes when they can get them. And most chew betel leaf or nut, which is illegal in the US 'cause it's so potent. Yeah I think there are plenty of poor brahmin families in india that will provide the movt with bodies to show off. I spent some time with that thai buddhist abbot that was friendly with mmy for awhile back when i was a purusha and he said I was a much more serious monk (at that time) than most of his because they were just doing it to please their families or to avoid some other responsibility and most of them smoked and had secret meetings with girls when they could.
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I couldn't listen past about one minute. But it appeared to be going from blissful this, to very blissful that, to very, very blissful this and that. I don't know where it was going to end, but I'm thinking he was going to have to invent some new superlatives at the rate he was going. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From a friend: Asher Ferguson, one of our young Purusha and this past year's MUM Valedictorian, is now working with Bevan in India. He created a delightful slideshow of the rising complex at the Brahmasthan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFUIIag6To Asher writes: The atmosphere here is absolutely incredible! I can feel that the Vedic Pandits are blessing the whole world. All we need is 8000 and then the world's problems will simply fade away - just like turning on the light instantly eliminates the darkness... Wishing you all the very best, Jai Guru Dev
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On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 4:47 PM, boo_lives boo_li...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah I think there are plenty of poor brahmin families in india that will provide the movt with bodies to show off. I spent some time with that thai buddhist abbot that was friendly with mmy for awhile back when i was a purusha and he said I was a much more serious monk (at that time) than most of his because they were just doing it to please their families or to avoid some other responsibility and most of them smoked and had secret meetings with girls when they could. Well. That explains why in VC they are transported to and from in buses, could only walk out of their area when they were going to dump Krshna into the lake. 24 X 7 TMO and private security keeping people out except under invitation when there's going to be public ceremony. That puts things in a whole new light.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:58 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India I couldn't either. The video drew me in with that picture of the cute sexy young guy, who I assume is the speaker, Hands off Alex. He belongs to Bevan. What do you suggest now Rick Archer? Of all the dire rumours you have presented on FFL, this must be amongst the lowest.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:41 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India I couldn't either. The video drew me in with that picture of the cute sexy young guy, who I assume is the speaker, Hands off Alex. He belongs to Bevan. What do you suggest now Rick Archer? Of all the dire rumours you have presented on FFL, this must be amongst the lowest. Just kidding Nabby. Bevan has firmly established his reputation as a heterosexual.
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On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: Just kidding Nabby. Bevan has firmly established his reputation as a heterosexual. Yes, that's what closet types do. Don't try it, Nabby.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slide show of Brahmasthan of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: I am questioning the deserving ability of the americans. MUM has a glorious future. But not necessarily in Fairfield. Sounds like the geographical cure - when you move, your problems will get there at about the same time- some other place can be as glorious as Fairfield. Actually, it sounds like a good idea. Once upon a time there was this generation in the US which eschewed wealth, was bright, eager, willing go to fight, demonstrate and campaign for a cause. I knew a member of the generation who's father was a noted neurosurgeon but I used to pick him up, in his $100 suit, hitchhiking along the side of the ride to go teach. Now a limited, a very limited number of people can be brought to do program together in FF for a stipend of $700 a month. But India is full of millions of people who come from a tradition of holding sacred meditation, austerities, learning and best of all, obedience to authority. What America had for a few brief years India's got in spades and will have for many years to come. India is an ideal place for the TMO to re-base itself. Your analysis is correct. The americans had their chance. Much of the writings on FFL shows that they wasted this historic chance; that wide open door provided by His Holiness and a few very advanced american souls for that country. Rather, out of immaturity and foolishness the majority chose to close that door so generously provided by Maharishi and the Masters. Never underestimate the Hillbilly-effect ! Nature is very, very patient. But She is not forever patient with stupidity. The Movement belongs to those who move - Maharishi
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Rather, out of immaturity and foolishness the majority chose to close that door so generously provided by Maharishi and the Masters. Never underestimate the Hillbilly-effect ! Ouch!? :0
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: It actually looks pretty cool. I hope they get enough people to fill it up. The speaker's. cadence. was.pretty.interesting. LOL! I was somewhat irritated by that (,too)! Felt a bit like he was *trying* to sound, well, cool...
