Re: which ipod for a Pismo?
I like and use the mini, I have a Pismo 500, it has a gig of ram but it’s firewire will work most excellent with the mini as your’s will too. Actually I connected the USB 1 and it works but not shazam like in firewire. These pismos are so nice, has to rank as the best and most versital book ever made by Apple. I broke down and finally bought a new 17” PowerBook, but it sure does not fit like the pismo does and for writing letters and email, it will be from the Pismo Have fun G On Dec 29, 2005, at 4:14 AM, kaldav wrote: Hello, I was wondering if anyone could please tell me which version of the ipod/s would work with a 400 mhz G3 Pismo laptop, 512 mb ram, firewire and usb 1. Thanks. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
RAM DDR2 v DDR PC 333
Greetings I bought a refurb 17 inch PowerBook Big AL from Apple and was going to max out the ram. The sales guy at Apple said the PB was from 3the newest release, well somewhere there was an error. So it is the model previous to the newest generation of the AL 17 PowerBook A ram salesman, with a well known company and the place I buy all my ram said; that the DDR 2 ram used on the newer models is like 30% faster then the ram on the previous model of the AL 17 PowerBook. It seems a little bit of a leap, but 30% and the 13% that is built into the latest generation would add up to a better machine and worth giving the $400 savings up in the refurb price and just get new one. So the New AL PB 17 takes DDR 2 533- 4200 PC 2-4200 I The previous generation of AL 17 Powerbooks just until a few months ago took DDR PC 333 So is the DDR2 really 20 to 30% faster DDR PC3 333 TIA Geoffrey -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Office 2004 on Pismo slow
I think we have seen the last of Microsoft Office for the Mac. There is not 1 reason for M$$ to do anything to help the Mac. The lack of a simple web browser, was the first shot over the bow. I hope that M$$ whale sinks, Apple has a rare event, a excellent opportunity to turn iPods into other Apple products. Not easy, not practical very difficult, but they have a chance, before the iPod, there was not even a prayer. A second chance at life, Steve got one, maybe he can turn this into a larger market share for the computers. It is pretty funny to see M$$ actually have to run Windows ads. There is is no joy in Redmond tonight. Geoff On Oct 22, 2005, at 2:50 , Barry Muller wrote: MS Orafice runs about as fast on my Pismo/400/40GB/576MB as on my eMac/1GHz/60GB/640MB. exception of misc background processes that just seem to slow the apps down) I may make that leap the next time I upgrade. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Office 2004 on Pismo slow
More RAM -take it to 1 GIG.7200 hard drive made a noticeable difference in my Pismo 500. Run as few programs as possible while office is open. Plus it's from M$$, their not going to make something for the Mac that works better, less problems and makes MS Office for the other brand brands look bad ???. If they stop making updates to a simple web browser for the Mac, their not going to sweat making sure M$$ for the Mac is going to run smooth. Times change, Bill won the Monkey Trial. Bought the present occupant of the white house, unless he is cutting down sage in Texas for ecology or looking for things. Mean while M$$ is back to buying, crunching and strangling any competition. What a time. Hard to give up those Pismo's Geoff. On Oct 19, 2005, at 7:32 , kaldav wrote: Hello, Does anyone have a suggestion why Office 2004 runs very slowly and with erratic mouse (inbuilt) movement in a Pismo? (400 mhz, 576 mb ram, 48 gb hard drive) Thanks. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: 12 Powerbook G4: an AppleCare and AppleStore assesment
On Oct 9, 2005, at 10:18 , Tobias Strohe wrote: Dear Listas/essas, I have been lurking mostly, but recent events warrant some verbage. I apologize right away, if (when) this gets lengthy. No need to apologize were all on the same road and courteous Find yourself a certified Apple repair service other than Apple. And the next time you are in the market for a computer think twice before buying directly from Apple. Excellent advice, just be sure it's a good one, call them on the phone for repair advice and be a newbie, see how they treat you, most are good in the store with cash in your pocket, see if they have time to make it worth your time to go to the business and check them out in person. I try not to buy until I have have beat the item and the seller as the best option. This goes with most things over a grand. Unless it's A or B I'm not defending Apple's actions here, but trust me, the grass isn't at all greener on the other side of the fence. There's a reaosn people throw away PCs rather than fix them. The only good service I've ever gotten on the PC side is though Gateway, and then though their corporate service only; I've dealt with their consumer stuff a couple of times. Yeeeuch! Yup now all in the same parts boat, true as gold, I have bought new iBooks for all, but I am hanging on to my pismo, it seems it was the last do it all put it in the bag fly all over and keeps on chugging And you ARE one of the few who think the Apple Stores are a disaster in the making. Most of the rest of the world thinks that they were a brilliant marketing move that's paying real dividends for Apple in both bottom line sales and mind share. For the cost and write off of the stores is an excellent idea, excellent advertising, excellent image, and lets people touch the item, a big deal in sales, especially impulse buying. Also sinks the idea Apple is dead, since 1987... They should keep it staffed with smart people or someone who can at an instant get someone on the phone or the computer under the desk to answer the question and admit he is doing so. Honesty. Nothing sells better then honesty, admitting; I am not sure but I can get the information, smooth, easy and truthful. Would also start to establish the top 300 questions. So after that, I am really, really soured on the Apple store. I think Apple needs to regroup and refocus regarding exactly what they want the Apple store to be. Right now it seems like it's a storefront no different than the other other retailers I mentioned, except that it happens to sell only one brand. Nancy Call Apple corporate Gwendlywne Wells, Head of Apple Care World Wide Support. Go right to the top. I will not hesitate to toast an idiot that does not deserve the job, when someone else may be willing to do their best, even though it's not a living wage position. On the other hand, I will go to top when I get excellent help above and beyond the usual. I will spend as much or more time telling a company, this is a good employee, it's probably a keeper and explain in detail how that person is better then the average employee. So I do not bury the company unless the idiocy continues, then that writes them off for me. You must go to the top sometimes demanding and I use the same tone in asking for good reports as I do bad. It gets people really worried as it should. Do not settle for the manager. It's probably their friend. No doubt that was a crummy buy, he wanted the % off the Apple Care. I would have left and gave him zero. With a call to Apple, if they do not have feed back from customers, how do they know? I find the Apple support a little like some kind of military procedure. One must first go through step A, which is usually going through a troubleshooting phase with someone in India to be certain it isn't a silly user error or something correctable via standard software utilities, and at the end of that Apple gives out a number. Yes you must get past the first level of support on the phone, they will do all the tricks and flips and then try to get you to go online for the answers, well I did online. He was very pushy about asking if there was any other help I needed. Yes I need a level 2 support, so someone can tell me why a keychain kept popping up. Level 2 is for those only for Apple Care in a some south east asian accent, Yada Yada and 30 minutes later, after he said we have 2 different lives, I don't know you and you do not know me. Then I had to explain what the keychain did, I was told that was wrong, I asked do you have a Mac, no I got a level 2 tech in 2 minutes my question was answered, it was a refurb iBook and the keychain kept asking for a password I did not have. Was used by previous owner. I thought Apple went through the refurbs and cleaned it up. Reinstalled the software. No said the level 2 tech, the fix the problem and
Re: AirPort SW 4.2 update
Good for you, I swap between the 2 letting SU install and keep the package 1 at a time, checking per release dates, notes or logic to what should be 1st, 2nd etc, then do the disk repair duo dance and on to the next. This seems to work best on the iBooks 1.2 . My Pismos seem to fine with the download and install and DR. I have found on those that need a restart, SU just keeps going and the restart never really happens or is a flash as it trys to but is overridden by SU and the next install. Geoff On Aug 8, 2005, at 6:13 , Dennis B. Swaney wrote: Success at last! What I did was let Software Update download and install the 4.2 update. Normally, I download all the updates and then install them one-by-one, repairing permissions between installs. For some reason, this update wouldn't install that way. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: OE on OSX?
Yes On Jul 6, 2005, at 7:43 , Jim Katz wrote: Baby question: Does Outlook Express work on OSX? Thanks, Jim -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Tiger on a Pismo?
If you have Panther and can get it for a student discount then yes. If your back on 9 and this would be the first release of X, then this is for you, I would say go for it. This is the first release I thought we should have had at X.2 and that's pushing it. There were a lot of problems with mail in this release, not only that it's butt ugly but for many in mail, it just did not work. There were all sorts of desk beaters, getting in early for the prize. Include me, which is not sop.. Just go to the Apple boards, please remember Apple filters heavily but hey it's their servers. There you will find the ghost mail, voodoo mail, lost mail, addresses gone and all sorts of mail fun. I think they have worked out most of the problems. I read they brought in a softie to design the new mail, so that answers why mail is butt ugly and had problems. It feels more stable, how do I quantify that, I guess living with it from it's first release X.1 and using 9 right along side till we got to Panther. I am running a Pismo 500. 1 gig of ram and a 7200 Hitachi/IBM 60 gig drive. When major changes happen, I usually put the old drive working 100% into a external F/W case and get a new drive for the new system. These Pismos are just hard to give up but I am afraid our time is a year or 2 for useable features. There are already major items that we can not benefit from not have. The full use of processing speed the graphic memory and others. They have me tempted for the Desk Tops but but 10K out the door, I do not trust Apple Care for that. Things need to change. The Lap Tops are lagging. I have a couple of G4 iBooks 1.2, max ram and really there not much faster then this pismo for most things or at least WOW that cooks. So yes if you have been waiting, this is the time, although panther is just about as good and a lot cheaper YMMV Good Luck Geoff Be nice. Everyone is going through troubles that you have no idea of. On Jun 30, 2005, at 12:10 , Pace wrote: Anyone running Tiger on a Pismo smoothly? Is it worth the upgrade on a Pismo? Thanks -- Don't leave our children with the burden of the IRS! www.fairtax.org -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo and Wallstreet RAM questions...
Way to go man, see your a Lawyer already lol Well one thing for sure you have a GF for life.W Get the gig of new ram, sell what you have on low end swap, the pismos can be a little RAM touchy sometimes on OS X might be Ok but not worth risk... you want to only want that puppy up once and reseat it as little as possible, it takes just about enough pressure to reseat as my stomach can take, when you reseating the card. When removing card notice the 2 little green tabs to the left towards airport card Those go in the metal cage, probably have a slight green stain on the metal slots on the cage, that will help you remember where they go back in and help get alignment of pins correct. You do not want to bend pins. Do not remove white heat pad. Lots of directtions and even some QT movies on web, those are a couple of things they sometimes leave out. On Apr 29, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Pacer wrote: My Fellow PowerBook-philes, I was wondering -- is the RAM on a Wallstreet compatible with the RAM on a Pismo? Ask Vendor who you buy New RAM from, bad ram is one of the leading problems of pismos next to reseating the card DMS, OWC. good vendors Ya I know another $160.00 GFs Not always cheap but Gotta Love-em have a relative abundance of Wallstreet RAM (over 1 gig, split between upper and lower) and I have a Pismo on the way that only has 192 RAM. sell all of it on Low end swap use $$ for new I am tempted to just buy new RAM and max it out cheap-like, but it will set me back about $180 or so and the idea was to have a cheap Book for my GF. Do it. Love these pismos, 1 gig still makes them go pretty good for an old timer a little cool pad, $20 to $40 helps keep airflow and thighs in summer from (Yes, I ended up getting a Pismo for her Did the right thing. I decided I wanted to surprise her by making her games work -- plus, it will impress upon her the selection of PC software titles also available on Mac. The goal here is to win her over to Mac for life -- especially if we end up going the distance. [g]) Very importantPlus your knowledge of computers will thrill and amaze her as you did all this yourself just for her! Manly Man stuff you know I am already looking at eating about $100 for an airport card, so I'd rather not push the RAM up to where I could have gotten her an iBook Ice or something. 1 gig of Ram is what makes these pismos keep up and run 10.3.9 just fine. Probably 10.4 also but too new OS if leaving soon? 7200 RPM HD really helps but we won't go there. $75.00 should get you a airport card for the pismo LES, can not use A/P extreme card inside the pismo only original LES Still, it would be ... ironic for her Pismo to be decked out with more RAM than my brand new 1.2ghz iBook (at 748). And if I add the 40gig HD hehe. Sincerely, Pacer the now-broke Oh crap, now how am I going to pay for Law School...? Girl friend writes Novel makes millions, sends you to law school, you get rich putting yacht deals together in Italy live happily ever after. All because of a Gig of RAM a airport card and a Pismo Pretty good deal Good luck Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Which Mac OS X/Virtual PC version for my Wallstreet?
On Apr 26, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Pacer wrote: \Geoff and fellow PowerBook-philes, I would love to do such a thing as suggested above! Alas, unless someone is willing to either donate a Pismo for me to refurbish or the money to buy such a machine, I am left with what I have -- two Wallstreets on the way in various states of needing to be worked on. Besides, I am in-debt and going off to law school soon, so she is lucky I'm fiscally irresponsible enough to rationalize spending what I have spent on putting together a machine for her. (G) Oh ya she will get that one ;; Thanks for hte tip on Virtual PC 5. I will definitely have to keep an eye out for it. Too bad it is not out in retail -- I have about 4 Windows 98 SE CDs and licenses that are currently unused I could put on it, not to mention the 5 Windows 95 licenses and CDs and the two DOS 5 licenses. I could buy the cheap-o no-OS version of Virtual PC. Also do a post on Low End Swap for VPC, prices tend to be a little cheaper and the possibility of a Mac VPC user may be a tad higher and they may have some speed tips. I shall have some one dig through my piles of boxes and see if my kids left all the parts of VPC 5 from when they needed it in H.S. for 1 semester online class. Any idea how well Virtual PC 7 might run on a Wallstreet 300mhz with 512MB? H VPC 5 was barely tolerable on a Pismo and they needed W 98, I am sure someone has work arounds or some ideas to speed things up, but out of the box to a neophyte it was slow. Good luck Sincerely, Pacer -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Which Mac OS X/Virtual PC version for my Wallstreet?
Yeah if you want to keep the girlfriend, get a pismo, put a gig of ram a fast HD and MSO X, VPC 5 ran OK for me on this set up. A good girlfriend is worth at least that much Geoff On Apr 26, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Pacer wrote: Fellow PowerBook-philes, I am in the process of building a cheap laptop for my GF so that she will have a machine while she studies abroad in Rome, Italy this summer. As I would like to be running Mac OS X, and as this is only a DOS program, I am wondering if it would be best to get the lowest Virtual PC version I can find (4, 5 or 6?) which will run on OS X? Any comments or ideas on this? Sincerely, Pacer -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Real Player for X
A lot of sites require Real Play or Microsoft media player I have used Real Player past but is there any other mainstream Mac product that will take the place of these. If not how is the new Real Player Thanks Geoff PB 500 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Repair or Replace PB?
If possible get a second opinion, Apple Care can be a tad over zealous in their estimation on repairs, they do not want returns and cost is not a matter, nuke it. I had a pismo that they claimed the MB was dead yda yda yda- list, $1100.00 was their estimation. $5.00 used inverter on eBay and it still works fine. Swap hard drives, if yours is noisy. If you like to get in there and trouble shoot and have done a little bit of it, you may spend 30 minutes and find it can be fixed for far less then what Apple thought, use their repair list as check list. If you do not want to worry about it and need it now, get a new one and part yours out. Depends on what you want to do and your level of stomach acid. How do you use the book. If you have 500 people in a room looking at a Keynote presentation well-new. If you keep data, files etc. and can back up regularly. The book dies and you can live a few days with out it or have a back up book, I would try and fix it myself. But that's just me. Good luck Geoff On Apr 9, 2005, at 10:07 PM, P. H. Adams wrote: This PB is about 14 months old. In January I just purchased AppleCare for it (which won't cover the repair repair in this case). I'm trying to decide if I should even worry about getting it fixed or just bite the bullet and get a new PB. The equivalent of my machine is now the 1.67 GHz 15-inch PB, with the SMS, new trackpad, etc. It's also $2,299... if memory serves, my PB was around $2,499 when I purchased it. I kind of hate the idea of sinking more than $4,000 into this computer when I can get the latest and greatest for less than $1,000 more than the repair bill. So... repair or replace? Any opinions? -- P. H. Patch Adams -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Pram Battery Change in Pismo
I have a replacement PRAM battery for one in my Pismo, will pull main battery and disconnect from power plug and wait a few minutes. When I disconnect the PRAM will anything other then date and time be effected, i.e. keychain and other programs will not be effected I read after unplugging PRAM, old one should slide out and new one should slide in the plastic holder, 99.9% true or wishful thinking. Thanks Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Newest member of the family
On Jan 27, 2005, at 11:01 PM, Andrew F. wrote: Hoping that the iBook will be as good to her as my PowerBook has been to me so far. The sound is absolutely amazing, on the 1.3 GHZ iBook they have it set up so it's almost like a surround sound system, you hear tiny sounds and voices to about 180 degrees each side if it's or your lap or a bit further Not overwhelming but you here voices, birds or MG 42s. Like being in the movie She will love it. You too. Be well Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Applecare, how long should it take?
On Jan 24, 2005, at 11:33 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 1/24/05 10:34 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: I swore off apple but busted down and got 2 iPods and 2 iBooks for my wife and one of my kids. I called Apple Care and said I need to get a copy of the 10.3.7 update, lady snaps did you sign up yet, well no I need the software. So dealt with her, then she said we might as well get the iPods signed up, well I already paid for that, I don't see it. Applecare is a hardware warranty. Not a hand holding service. You need to register to reap the benefits of Applecare. Really, do you read where it says unlimited help with your Apple product on the phone.Did I need some help, yes. This is a very good example of what you the consumer can expect from Apple Care, the attitude, the denial of problems and just a careless attitude towards customers, tending to blame YOU!!! not little sweet Apple. This is Apple Care if he has the guts to print it I asked Apple Care if they could send a disk with these updates on there, I would pay for shipping and any reasonable costs. The new tomato on the phone said it's not Apples fault that you do not have the capability to down load a 100 meg file. Applecare is a hardware warranty. Not a hand holding service. Wow Kyle Better go back and read the TOS of Apple Care they provide support over the phone for Apple Products. Now if they do not want to send a disk fine. It just cost them a G5 Apple also builds the OS, in case you don't understand, so help with that would be covered under AC. Do they have to send the disk,no. Should they try to help yes. Remeber the i's software who build that M$$ Now I really want a G5, tricked out it will run between 5 to 10K. When Apple Care got nasty because I needed a upgrade disk and I mean snotty, Applecare is a hardware warranty. Not a hand holding service. They are not required to supply CD versions of software to a customer. If you don't have a fast enough connection then get one...or go rent one at your local Kinko's for less than the shipping costs would've been. It is not Apple's fault. Hey got your life I got mine, if that is what works for you fine, I expect after dropping almost 4k sending a copy of a software update would be an easy thing to do. Instead of being told in the same dumb ass tone, we can't do that in a rude and careless voice. As a business man you always try to help customers have a good experience. I can get by without that G5 for now Apple is a hardware company your own venom is clogging your brain, OS X iLife, Keynote, iWorks, Apple Works get the idea iMovie, the list goes on. One more thing, if you think there is a problem get it fixed before the last year of Apple Care and for sure the last 6 months. Less then 6 months they will blame it on a spilled liquid sometime in the last 6 months and Apple does not cover that. This is a joke right? No you are, I called to get it repaired and the Apple tech guy put me through to Apple Care Dispatch, the first thing he said was, guess; We do not cover spilled liquids in computers. No Kidding. After getting this back after Apple claimed that sometime in the last 6 months a liquid was spilled. I asked what, we don't know, well how can you tell, we have tests. Having no proof that there was liquid spilled the denied the claim. I fixed it for $5.00. When Apple wanted over a thousand. I started researching Apple Care, this is a common claim as it is difficult to prove or disprove that in the last 6 months a liquid was or was not spilled. So most people give up. They said I needed a whole new motherboard, sure working good now with a $5.00 invertor.. This is slander. Can you back this up with evidence? Yes plenty, but your you are incapable of comprehending that. So I am not going to waste my time. Please be my guest call old Gwenny at Apple and discuss this with her, if you can get through. I would love to take this experts and I have the resources, so if in it be ready. Don't make threats. No? I didn't think so. You know nothing, if it's slander send it to Apple, I still have the parts with the code and I still have the recording she left saying we will ship this out. Guess somebody got caught in the cookie jar. Please, I was going to sue them in my state court as others had suggested, not worth the energy. This time it just might be the right time so as I said if your ready, have at it but be ready to get what you give. You must be FREAKING kidding me. I am an Apple Certified Technicianand no where in my training did I learn of this practice. Ya know being a computer repair person is not exactly a 8 year degree program, nor very hard. You do not run Apple Care and if you really knew so much as you seem to say you do. You would know all power books unless a simple duh, go to Texas. Of course that would hurt your business as you can add time to the repair. Never have I
Re: Applecare, how long should it take?
On Jan 25, 2005, at 2:38 AM, Dylan Moore wrote: Hey geoff, let me start out by saying that i completely understand your frustration, I think that apple is changing from the company I knew and loved a decade ago-- but then again, that's because they're moving to the mass market. Any time a computer company has to put a warning on their website stating that users should not eat their product, such as the ipod shuffle, you know that they've started to market their products to a population that is a little less than technically inclined. Are you serious, good laugh, good..good good laugh..ohmy They wonder why we 17th in the world in education. For all of that, applecare hasn't really changed. I just got an ibook, bought applecare for it, and it was 187.00 USD with my student discount. There was an issue with the keyboard, so they sent me a replacement, no problem. They've replaced my first gen ipod twice already, and I didn't even HAVE applecare on that. They took back and replaced parts on my G3 lombard nearly two years out of any sort of warranty without cost, they made a house call to replace my motherboard in my dual G4 quicksilver just barely out of warranty and with no cost. And that is my Apple Care that I love, maybe I get the people in the wrong celestial time. I have never had to use Apple Care till the Pismo deals and I have still have the goliath Mac 512, which started out as 128k. Sorry I upgraded it now, those old puppies will be worth a mint someday... -- Will they cover a cup of java sloshed into the keyboard? No, that was your fault for not remembering middle school science, and thinking that liquid and electronics go hand in hand. WHOA You missed the point, NOTHING was spilled in the lap top, That referral of coffee smell was Kyle ranting that he had or would turn down a A/C repair if he smelled coffee or saw a liquid These are my 2 lap tops, no one else uses them, I will share my Desktops, but not the books. All 4 kids have Pismos, one got a new this year iBook and I got my wife a ibook. But nothing was spilled. I do not lie, it's easier to remeber what you said and a moral line I do not cross. Just me. -- Will they cover a laptop that's been dropped out of a moving car? Well, you can always try, but my guess is that kyle and his ilk will probably frown and ask again how it happened, just to hear it one more time. It was fine when I packed it No you got this wrong and it's/ I see your point about the update software, and while it would be nice to have CDs to distribute, I for one appreciate that apple doesn't manufacture such things, which would really be wasteful, since it's available online anyway. 100mb is a long download for sure, but my guess is that it'd be done in two days, much shorter than sending a CD via priority mail. Ahhh another person who has not used dial up for many moons. You could not do it, and it took 200 megs to bring the machines up to date. I offered to pay shipping and any cost. The kid was burned out and just nasty and was not helping at all. The updates included security updates released in Dec. I am not putting them on trial, this is all about a poor guy waiting 17 now 18 days for a simple screen. my suggestion is to lighten up a little bit and look at the whole pictures. you make it sound like a 14 screen shortage was premeditated or some sort of plan Steve Jobs came up with just to annoy you. Rest assured, they can't make screens appear out of the thin air, and making such things typically takes time. 1 phone call NW 747 20 hours. a whole plane full Oh, and does apple sincerely monitor our lower end mac list? C'mon, and fess up if you're an apple 'spy'... (you're okay, kyle! : ) We've caught you reporting our secret messages back to apple ( ; If you don't think Apple does not monitor most every board do a little digging. Most corporations monitor the internet for sites that relate anything to them. Either through their own security or outside companies. Get too far into the real stuff and they will bight. In fact Apple just sued some site for releasing information prior to their last Mac Fest. All major companies do this. There are not just good sites about companies on the web. Do a search for your insurance company, that will give you a reason to pull out that policy. Anyway, take care and good luck. -dyl ( = --- «Also do not expect much complaints on the Apple boards, they monitor them very closely. Even lists like this.» ...dun dun dun! Oh I do not expect a complaint over something like this no. When I was REALLY PISSED OFF over the PBs that's when there was a lister who pointed out how great Apple was and in that post was something that only Apple Care and I knew about the one computer, it gave me a pause. They pull the complainers off Apples own boards, which they have right to do, but open speech and thought seems to be one of the many things we slowly are
Re: Applecare, how long should it take?
On Jan 25, 2005, at 2:43 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: let me start out by saying that i completely understand your frustration, I think that apple is changing from the company I knew and loved a decade ago-- but then again, that's because they're moving to the mass market. Weren't they more in the mass market 10 years ago than today? Interesting point but I would guess units sold, same or less as the product line is wider iPods Any time a computer company has to put a warning on their website stating that users should not eat their product, such as the ipod shuffle, you know that they've started to market their products to a population that is a little less than technically inclined. Am I the only one who think it's a joke...? I was laughing as hard as I can, but I think he is serious -- Will they cover a cup of java sloshed into the keyboard? No, that was your fault for not remembering middle school science, and thinking that liquid and electronics go hand in hand. That was a incorrect statement made by Kyle as an example of what he would turn down for a A/C repair and rightly so. I did not spill anything in any pismo that needed repair. In fact I have never spilled anything in a computer. Once more I did not spill anything in any pismo that needed repair. I am used to being responsible for items that are very costly and the contents irreplaceable. no mistakes allowed. Not one. -- Will they cover a laptop that's been dropped out of a moving car? Well, you can always try, but my guess is that kyle and his ilk will probably frown and ask again how it happened, just to hear it one more time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these two cases should be covered by a regular insurance (from your local insurance company), which costs a fraction of price of AppleCare. Possibly with your homeowners, but with red lining I would not put a claim in for a computer repair, you might have a problem with insurance renewal. Please no opinions, research it, it's on the web. In my case the Apple Care $1000.00 repair er estimate cost was way out of line, they just said the Mother Board was dead, they never checked. I fixed it for $5.00 with a used inverter, it's underneath where the start button is on the pismo and the sleep light. That plastic part snaps open and the green inverter unplugs on both ends, new one in and hello pismo. Good running computers for all Geoff Who does not spill liquids in computers. Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Applecare, how long should it take?
On Jan 25, 2005, at 4:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I recall a time in the 90's waiting nearly 4 months for the repair of my LaserWriter because the logic board was unavailable. I ranted and raved, my local dealer ranted and raved, and in the end it was repaired; no sorry, no here's a discount coupon for your next purchase, no understanding that without the printer I had to buy another because my business required it. At least my dealer cushioned the blow. david David If I may: The point here, even though the place he bought the printer from could not get his fixed, he bought another one from whom, the same dealer, because the attitude was right and he softened the blow. A smart businessman. Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Applecare, how long should it take?
Thought of it but I just dropped 4K and this was my first contact with Apple Care since they Lied. 2 nice people and I probably would have got the G5. But if 4K can't get me a simple CD that I am willing to pay for, I am going to dump 5 to 10, not with these guys. It was 2 different people and they were both just nasty and unhelpful. I will just keep paying to get the stuff I need, keeps the guy happy and sure he need the bread. Geoff If I was Apple, I would just give this poor guy a new computer, come on do business right, it works. No screens, I don't buy it. Just remember his plight when your stuck Geoff On Jan 25, 2005, at 12:09 AM, mray wrote: Maybe if you had asked someone on the list nicely and paid shipping, you might have had a better experience. regards, Mark On Jan 24, 2005, at 11:33 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: I asked Apple Care if they could send a disk with these updates on there, I would pay for shipping and any reasonable costs. The new tomato on the phone said it's not Apples fault that you do not have the capability to down load a 100 meg file. Applecare is a hardware warranty. Not a hand holding service. -- Mark Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Applecare, how long should it take?
On Jan 25, 2005, at 5:27 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: Thought of it but I just dropped 4K and this was my first contact with Apple Care since they Lied. 2 nice people and I probably would have got the G5. But if 4K can't get me a simple CD that I am willing to pay for, I am going to dump 5 to 10, not with these guys. It was 2 different people and they were both just nasty and unhelpful. I will just keep paying to get the stuff I need, keeps the guy happy and sure he need the bread. Sorry, but I can't stand it anymore. Geoff, no need to repeat your point in 10 emails in a row. We all got it the first time. Well you know the nice thing about emails you do not need to open them, you do not need to answer and frankly I am sure glad I do not live in your house, if you get this moody over Apple Care my gosh. Plus get the facts right. Because I don't go along with apple dance and understand the frustration that a man has who just bought a new computer a month ago. The screen is out and he can not use it, does not get any sort of C/S that makes him at least feel better, frankly tough, don't read. I know what he feels like. I know many have had good outcomes. I realize this is a very pro mac site and will get little support but if your willing to put up with junk then that's what you will get. They should take of this man. I could order a new iBook and have it Wed. He can not get a screen, that's wrong and as much as I support Apple, I will push them to the wall to do things right. Otherwise there will be no Apple. And frankly, if you spoke to the AppleCare people in the same tone as here, I am not at all surprised they weren't so eager to help you. I spoke very well to Apple Care People I have responded in kind here. You totally misread Kyles post and thought I sent in a computer with coffee in it, if your going to complain and get all cranky, get the facts right. Good health to you Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Applecare, how long should it take?
Aaron Some how I am accused of saying and doing so many things; I am not saying do not buy Apple Care, I bought it, everyone probably should. I did not buy it for the iPods. However of all the Mac Dealings this has been my worst department. What about the people finally getting the logic board from May 2001 till October 2003 builds, they complained and experienced the worst of Apple, their finally getting relief in 2005. 4 years, how happy were those folks. It just seems Apple could do better here. They always take it to the absolute edge of lawsuit or to lawsuit before something is done. I know there are thousands of glowing little reports. And woe to thee who dare trample the Apple here, in the midst of My Apple Do or Die. You hold the company to a high standard and don't push away those who say this is wrong. The core users, the evangelists should be pushing the hardest for top quality and fair repairs, not just blowing it off as impossible. I have switched 10 maybe 14 people and a medium size business. I am not bashing, I just understand what the guy is going through. If everyone on this list stopped bitching and sent Apple a letter or e-mail, the guy would probably have his book. However it seems to be more fun to just say Apple right or wrong then to help fix a problem for a guy who bought a Apple product. If the guy has a bad screen, he has had it a month, either fix it or give him a new book, that's just good business, granted a happy customer usually tells 2 people, a unhappy one tells 10. I have not dealt with with Apple Care except on the old 5300 plastics and power attachment and the system 8 deal those were fine and then the Pismos. I have more lap tops then I know what to do with. I am a fair person. I took time out of my day to call back the next day and complement the manager of sales, not the assistant, the real manager, everyone was trying to side step me as I wanted the manager, knew his name and they were afraid why. He was responsible for getting a group of workers whipped into shape to meet the xmas rush and this worker was real good, limited knowledge but a excellent attitude. The manager talked my ear off saying it's important to get feedback, Apple is revamped Apple Care, we talked about how good it looks for Apple right now and the whole company is feeling the rush of energy. I agree. I just call it as I see it, the guy asked how long do I wait. If it's me, give me a computer or refund my money. A month is just to short of time for a computer to flake out and make a man wait 18 days. Plus not be honest and make him feel like their playing games with him. That's a big part of this, he feels lied too, nobody likes that. It's bad business. I understand people disagree but the big picture is Apple denies when they know there are problems. It's because they had to get cheaper, if there going to get cheaper, then be ready for the fall out and unhappy people. I am glad your new G5 got it's power supply replaced, however where was the checklist to make sure your fans were not going to blow you out of the room. That error cost Apple more money then if the repairmen did it right the first time. So you were satisfied and that is number one in importance Incompetence costs money too. If were going to say this is the best computer, then it should be. Good health and long happy days Geoff On Jan 25, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Aaron Willems wrote: I strongly disagree with your statement Geoffrey. I think AppleCare is a must. I have never had any bad dealings with Apple in regards to having it. Case in point. My new G5 had a Bad Power Supply. I took it to the Apple Store. They fixed it, but forgot to calibrate the Machine after replacing the Power Supply. My G5 started blowing the fans at full speed. The noise was so bad, it hurt my ears. I called Apple and told them what happened. They apologized for the error. Then they offered to send a technician to my apartment to fix my new G5. They understood that the G5 was a heavily machine, and would have been a burden to take back to the Apple Store. So a technician came out to my apartment. He fixed my new G5 in 30 min. None of this would have happened if I hadn't had AppleCare. There are always two sides to a coin. Regards, Aaron Willems Sorry to be bearer of bad news, but Apple Care IS Bad News 17 days for a screen, what kind of moronic planning is that Tick Tick Tick. Call them, ask for a supervisor, don't get yelling and screaming, even though you may at times feel the urge and ALWAYS start a conversation with can I have your name and ext number, I like to work with good people. Otherwise if the conversation turns negative you have the name of the person. One more thing, if you think there is a problem get it fixed before the last year of Apple Care and for sure the last 6 months. Less then 6 months they will blame it on a spilled liquid sometime in the last 6 months and Apple does not cover
Re: Applecare, how long should it take?
She is not a troll, she has had problems with her pismo in the past and has posted here, see geez, say one thing anti Apple and get mugged and slugged This group is intolerable of talking about Apple problems and solutions to keep the computer we all use from fading away. Which it could do at anytime and not too many people would be upset. Geoff On Jan 25, 2005, at 11:58 AM, Aaron Willems wrote: You know something, I might get some slack from the List Nanny, but I have to say it. What are you doing on this list? You sound like a PC user, who's feels obligated to join a Mac group, to start up something. I believe they have a name for that. It's called a troll. Aaron For what it costs and how much Apple hypes the quality of their products AppleCare should be damn near instant. Of course, for those like me that paid $2200 for a Pismo 4 years ago that now works when it feels like it AppleCare is no longer available. Now of course Apple's reccommended solution to this problem is for me to give them another couple grand for a new AlBook and 3 more years of Applecare Fat chance!- I can buy a stack of Pismo's for that kinda money, compute for years on them, and never drop a dime at the Apple Store again. No wonder Apple's share of the computer market continues to drop. But isn't the new Mac Mini supposed to draw in the switchers to replace the old Apple fanatics that have been driven off? Today at the local MicroCenter store the Mini Mac was being ignored while the aisles of the Build Your Own System section were busy. With 20% off on BYOS stuff the Shuttle et al cubes look tempting. And one can pretty much see that the PC vendors will match the Mac Mini on price with an LCD display, keyboard, mouse, etc. thrown in to boot.. And given Apples recent quality problems, one can easily see busted Mac Mini's backlogged months for repairs, while the switchers switch right back never to buy Apple again! Dyna -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo in Profound Vegatative State
Dyna I would try putting panther on it. 10.2.4 or 6 updates somewhere in there just toasted my pismos and a lot of other peoples on Pismos they just went waco, just like yours sounded. I started to dig into unix and said this is a waste of time, I buy a computer to work, not work on it. I went back to 9. Panther came out and has run well. Very well. I see copies getting down there in price pretty cheap, so if it did not work, you would not be out too much $$ After the warranty went out I put a gig of ram in all the pismos and it also made a big difference. I also just installed system 10 on the book, put nine on one of the little firewire drive boxes OWC sells, so if I need 9 it's there and usable. I have not used it, just checked it out every so often. hope it helps some. Does it run in 9? Geoff at 11:14 AM, Dyna wrote: My 2000 Pismo running OS10.2 has become near impossible to boot. Early symptoms were freezes in Mail and occasionally Safari. As the disease progressed the Pismo required repeated attempts to get it to fully boot and frequent crashes with a lot of UNIX error messages on the screen. Now it will only boot as far as the screen coming on with the Apple logo and occasionally the little thingy starts spinning. I haven't been able to get it to boot any farther the last few days. I've tried the easy fixes- reinstall OS, reset by button on back, checked PRAM battery and it shows the proper 6 volts. Any suggestions for diagnosis and treatment? thanks in advance, -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: unresponsive i
Replace the keyboard, I had a H go south, there was a post a waays back that gave good info on cleaning. Not sure if it's like the Pismo, but if so, is very to replace the whole keyboard and there cheap on ebay or low end swap $30.00 or so Good luck Geoff On Jan 25, 2005, at 2:39 PM, w miller wrote: I probably don't want to hear the answer to this one: Lombard 400/384/60G HD, OS 9.2.2 on main partition. Recently, the letter i often doesn't respond. I don't think I'm losing strength. It's definitely the i. Any ideas? The computer hasn't fallen or had anything spilled in it. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Applecare, how long should it take?
On Jan 25, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: What gets people's back up is someone like you claiming (for EVERYONE) that Apple is terrible, backing it up with such a whiny luser complaint (that they didn't instantly give you a CD when you demanded it) and then saying such stupid things as the only reason Apple scores highly in customer satisfaction surveys is because 'we all jam the boards to vote them high.' It's really easy to take a line you don't like and tear it apart The CD was my complaint and they were both rude so screw em, that's my choice. I wrote it one time. I did not demand it, I asked for it, offered to pay for it and shipping costs too, they said no. Whoo. psycho In case you did not read, the guy needs it for college-higher education, you seem to think it's necessary to post at the end of anything you write BMOC so you should understand why he is upset. He has all his work on it. He needs it. This is just unbelievable. The consumer report online version allowed you to vote as many times as possible under one subscription, because there could be other family members who used this item or had their own. Your telling me this ballot box was not even slightly stuffed by Apple users? Ok your BMOC. I know I usually jump to Apples defense when I see a troll or a bad report. Take your tale and tell EVERYONE with the iBook 2001 to 2003 addition that Apple is great, people who are finally getting the logic boards from May of 2001 till October 2003 builds finally have computers, they complained too much and experienced the best of Apple because their finally getting relief in 2005 4 years, how happy were those folks Bruce, think they will buy again, what do, think about the high drop out rate, people who just gave up. What would you do with a brand new 2001 iBook that did not work and Apple denied problems and it had all your work on it. Explain that truthfully, as you seem to speak for the people -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Applecare, how long should it take?
I swear Apple can do no wrong yet no replies to the iBooks, why is that, not worthy of discussion. If you blindly follow what good are you doing to promote the very thing you enjoy. If you read her earlier posts she had problems with a Pismo, at 10.2.4 or 6 which was a problematic upgrade like the 10.3.5 v 7 So free speech is not allowed unless everything is good too the Apple ORB Geoff On Jan 25, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Amber wrote: Her note was a massively long anti-Mac note. This is a Mac list - exact -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: what is wrong with this PB ????
Duck for cover or run On Jan 25, 2005, at 4:40 PM, Amber wrote: Okay, I am hoping somebody here might be able to suggest a solution for me regarding my 15 1.25 Gig Al PB. I bought it Dec 2003 so it is just over a year old. For the past couple of weeks it has been a real pain in the neck to work on. Safari will open but there will be no data at all in the window and no way of typing in the website address in the bar. It just doesn't respond to anything. I try to quit it and it will not quit. The blank window closes but the triangle remains under the icon in the dock. Photoshop works for awhile, then quits suddenly, as does the Epson scanner, iTunes, Entourage, Roxio toast etc. So I decide to get some recent, important data burnt to DVD for back up but find that the Superdrive will not recognize any of the disks. Yes, they are brand new, DVD-R disks. I tried more than 10 of them from 3 different boxes. It cannot read the volume or whatever - I can't remember the error message but it won't let me use any of them. I have talked to Apple care after doing an archive and install (I did two archives and installs - one with and one without preserving system preferences). Also checked Disk Utility with the Install CD..it finds no problems on the Mac HD. Neither does Diskwarrior. Any suggestions would be VERY much appreciated. Thanks, Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Care comments
On Jan 25, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Scott wrote: On 25 Jan 2005, at 04:51, Geoffrey Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you serious, good laugh, good..good good laugh..ohmy They wonder why we 17th in the world in education. You still just don't get it. Why are you personally attacking others? You are the problem. Look at yourself. Look at what you have written in this list. Look at your usage of English. Dylan Moore makes very good points and comments without attacking you or anyone. Also, Dylan Moore's use of English is correct and standard. While you are the one making comments such as the one above. You don't get it, the guy made a joke about Apple Posting don't eat the iPods. . I laughed my 888 off, excuse me. I do not lie, it's easier to remeber what you said and a moral line I do not cross. Just me. This I certainly admire and believe to be a moral attribute of the highest order. I commend you on this positive life choice. I also made this choice for myself long ago, as it is better and easier to remember the truth than a lie, and it is better and easier to hurt and heal from the truth than from a lie. Personally, this is why I choose Apple (Steve Jobs' company) over Microsoft (Bill Gates' company). Apple is infinitely more honest and trustworthy than Microsoft. Both are businesses intent on making money, yet Apple cares about it's products, employees, and customers, while Microsoft seems to have no standards, morals, or ethics about how they do business or who they hurt in the process. And I expect that from Apple and that's why I support them also. Not to get the response that something was spilled in the book. That was lie, plus we never touched your other parts that was lie. People rant here about what they pick out of a long list of tidbits not really reading, but just ranting so how can you be objective. You have it all wrong and I could care less. I just believe in holding a company to the fire when their wrong. Apple was wrong, about what, you do not know Most corporations monitor the internet for sites that relate anything to them. Either through their own security or outside companies. Get too far into the real stuff and they will bight. In fact Apple just sued some site for releasing information prior to their last Mac Fest. That site officially published and publicly presented secret information that it had no right to do so on its front page, similar to a newspaper or magazine, big difference from discussion groups. That same information had been rumoured, discussed and tossed around in forums, lists, and discussion groups for months prior, yet none of those groups were shut down. Apple or any other company just doesn't have the resources to patrol or even roam the millions of various discussion groups on the internet. And ultimately, why would they? Most of the time it is pointless for them. Do you think Apple is concerned about what I am writing to you in this list right now? Come on now, let's be realistic. I can understand a company reacting to harmful publication of information, but trolling for it in discussion groups, that is just unrealistic and paranoid. Now if employees of a company happen to be involved in a particular discussion group on their own time, then that seems realistic and plausible. If I were an employee of Apple, then I'd still be a member of this group, not because I am trolling for subversion, but because I enjoy using Apple products and I enjoy the forum. But not release information that the employee knew about my personal relationship with Apple, that's the difference, they posted something only a Apple employee would know. That's wrong but open speech and thought seems to be one of the many things we slowly are losing. It seems so innocuous everyone kinda goes along as it just the way it is today, pass the cheeseburger. This I whole-heartedly agree with, and seems quite true, unfortunately. The public as a whole does not respond to the tiny little bits of freedom we lose every year. Yet, ten or twenty years on we look up and say, What happened to our freedom? I am not personally choosing this loss of freedom for myself, yet unfortunately I am a part of a society that IS choosing this loss of freedom for itself as a whole, like a bunch of lemmings. Everyone I talk with agrees and does not like it, but nothing gets done and every year we lose a little bit more freedom. Turn off that TV! Unplug it, kill it, throw it away! Stay away from fast food! Get outside and exercise! Change your world for the better! Well unlike the lemmings I have done things about the loss of our constitutional rights and live in a place where every elected official told the Leader they will not support and will not provide information unless a court order shows good cause. They and we all signed a petition saying we will not support the Patriotic act. Old Ashcroft came running for a 3 day tour. The reception was so
Thank you
Thank you Geoff On Jan 25, 2005, at 7:39 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Folks, I don't know about the several hundreds other subscribers, but I, for one, am a little tired of this thread. I think that everybody who had something to say about AppleCare has done so already. So, as list nanny on this list, I ask everybody to drop it, no more reply to this thread, please. You can continue to argue if you want but do it off-list. Thank you. -Laurent. -- \ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Apple Mail how about Office
It takes real guts to run a business that is over shadowed by a corporate entity that gets and gives anything it wants because the govt.is bought and paid for. The Mac will not survive without an office suite. This is the last M$ bloated piece of crapsuite and Apple knows it. So maybe not this day but it's coming. The Mac will not survive without an office suite. Well a new day, maybe sooner then later. So you all have fun with Office, I hope I am not forced to buy this release, so far pre med needed it once 3 years ago and in engineering and oceanography never. I hope Apple kicks their ass and they just might do it. If not, better to go out with all you have then try to walk softly past the biggest Robber of technology in the world and hope not to wake him up. That's a wimpy way to go. In business when your the owner, you play fair but play to win and to succeed. Head to head, Apple could lose but at least Steve has guts. Geoff The latest suit also lends credibility to recent rumors about a Macintosh computer without a display and an office productivity software suite that surfaced in the run-up to Apple's annual trade show held here next week, http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml? type=internetNewsstoryID=7250030section=newssrc=rss/uk/internetNews On Dec 24, 2004, at 12:13 PM, Aaron Willems wrote: ake a chill pill. I'm the biggest Mac fan on the planet. I even have my own website dedicated to my platform of choice. I have a G5 at home, that is completely Microsoft free. I keep all my Microsoft Applications on my G4 PowerBook, which I use to access the office when I'm offsite. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
Next version no way. This Guy has over 30 Billion and growing. The paltry act of Office for the Mac is not going to give Bill a second of worry about money. However losing out on style, functionality and development of programs, that takes away from the glow of his empire, will give him a second thought, eliminate it. Remeber the Steve and Bill show has not been one of love and respect. You do not understand men of power, they have money and all that comes with it, all that you could possibly dream of times a billion and still have 30 left. What feeds them is to destroy and conquer. Their ruthless and anything that would take away from their industrial image as being the elite, they will destroy. That's what get them off. Thats the drive of men who have power. So Apple, the computer and software I prefer, should be planning for this day. There will be another type of Office for Mac, only it will not be from MS, the monopoly inquiry is over, MS won. I support companies that do things right. I will pay more and work a bit harder on less robust software to give my money to the companies that support the Mac. I would not call MS a Mac supporter. Losing I.E. was but the first shot. Adobe is getting restless. So to everyone that loves Office great, you have your choice in life. Maybe it does make your job easier and you do not have to work as hard, a seemingly American trait. I prefer the people who work harder to make the Mac survive, software and retail. Those folks bust their ass off on slim margins to make it work. They take chances in life, it makes you feel alive to do that. I can usually get hardware and software from the big retailers cheaper, especially shipping. However I am but 2% of their business. So I go to the smaller operations that just support the Mac, software and retail. There I get real people that understand what their selling and how it works, instead of just reading off a screen. I guess I have a choice too, until Bill has his dream fulfilled . So enjoy Macs at home and keep the issue that Macs are not for business alive. I apologize as I really could not understand why people would think Macs are not serious computers and not for business. This is a huge wall to sales of Macs. If you have a thousand people on Macs but there running MS office, it still says to the workers, we have Apple computers but there is no software for the Mac. One of the workers wants a computer. I use Microsoft Office at work what kind of computer should I buy. Enjoy Geoff On Dec 25, 2004, at 7:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There will be another version of Office for the simple reason that the Mac BU makes money which is the only thing that gets Bill off. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
On Dec 24, 2004, at 4:25 AM, Tim Collier Usually the people who start bashing a high end app suite are the ones who don't have the $$$ to buy itor can't steal it! Are we going to start bashing Photoshop next? So what do you want to do, compare portfolios, usually people who steal the high end Apps are the ones saying Not Me While we are at it Adobe Acrobat 7 does leave features off the windoz version and screw them I will stay at 6. Addressing the issue of MS no longer supporting Internet Explorerso what! Safari rocks! MS knows that and methinks it's the reason that they aren't moving on with IE. Really wow did not know that one thanks So what does methinks do when Microsoft says Apple is improving Appleworks and it Rocks, so M$$ is not going to upgrade or build any Office products or scale it back for the Mac, not enough sales. I have read where the Apple Group is now not exactly the top spot at Gates University and getting the requirements needed for development, their not at the head of the class so to speak. I will bet you have seen you last full release of Office for the Mac But no worries M$$ now owns VPC and that runs great, so if you get VPC you can run straight windoz office That M$$ always thinking ahead for better products for the Mac M$$ beats the lawsuits with a little window dressing, rubbing up to Apple, working very hard to build a version of Office for Mac X. After all Bill did say MS is a good company and competition is good for us, keeps us on the cutting edge.chuckles. So now all M$$ problems have vanished. They heavily gave to the incumbent chair warmer, so what's the advantage to Bill to keep putting out good Apple products, more money, fear of loss of integrity by the biggest killer of technology in the world. Keep playing Siegfried and Roy and you just might be reading up on Windows more then you want I did not say Office Sucks. I have to keep one scummy machine with it. I said, hold Apple to the fire for better software, that you IT guys, who I respected, have the power to say hey do it this way and it will work better and maybe it will bring some change. But it is very interesting to hear the input from you IT guys. I always wondered how this list of phrases got started, the biggest road blocks I have heard to be associated with getting people to switch to Apple or getting their first computer and have it be an Apple. This is branded in there heads. Microsoft is for serious business work- I need to look professional, Macs are for artists to play on, Macs are not serious business computers, can't e-mail to Microsoft and everybody in business uses Microsoft, the different computers will not work together, everybody knows their is no software for the Mac. It's all bunk, but dragged in like the dirty coal on the miners clothes and just as deadly to have a reliance on one operating system as to breath the dust, it also seems that a few folks do not like M$$. So the individuals buy windoz, unless you can unwrap what has been wrapped so very tightly by a sources that for the majority are probably working with what the Tech guy wants. He is the guru, so it slides downhill. The very people who could be helping shape the future of the Mac, at one of the best times I have seen Apple in the spotlight and be accepted as a real computer. Sit back and say this is the way it is, this is the way it stays, why change. So your influence of programs extends to your company computers and the people who use them. Yet post to Mac sites without a utterance of I called Apple and said or I wrote Apple and suggested a change. Just a lot of yelling and believing the benevolent Bill will come through with Office 07 I think part of the problem is Microsoft = Job Security for tech. I am to tired to hope every body who knows Bill gets a free copy of the new Office. Just don't whine when it's gone and there is no replacement. Change needs a voice Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Apple Mail
Well if you like Entourage so much then go Wintel. I think Mail is a great program, it needs to grow some and will have too as Apple is starting to sail under it's own power. Plus in case you have not heard, Microsoft is not updating Internet Explorer for the Mac and if you think this is the last of M$$ products to jump the ship, think again. The boyz in Wa. are getting a little testy. Apple has a whole new generation to sell products too, iPod and iTunes has been a great intro to allow growth, to what ends that remains to be seen. All it takes is a few stumbles by the pigs and the little guy could now be a real threat. So if you are in a position of controlling over a 100 Macs, which I honestly respect, get Apple on the phone, tell them the problems, maybe they have a solution you have not thought of. Your a player, they are at least going to listen or read your typed mail asking for an answer, probably even better approach. As long as there are Tech people like you, who will not take Apple to the mat and demand the functionality you need to work in this, *Windows World* and just push aside Apple Mail or other Apple products, what are you doing ? Your just helping to cut the product share even more, when you have not even asked Apple about your problems. There might be solutions to what you need. Your also telling 100 plus workers using Macs, Apple Mail is a failure. What does that say to your Mac users when it comes time to buy a computer and most people use them off work for, emailing and surfing. Well the tech guy at our company does not like Apple Mail says it does not do things right, Internet Explorer is not being updated, so guess we better get a Wintel. When these 100 workers are asked by their friends, what computer they should buy, the workers are now the computer experts, their now the Tech guy, so from your influence against Mail it just blasts loud and clear Apple Mail is inferior, buy Wintel and it grows like a virus. You have some juice use it. 100 computers will not get you a free ride on Steves Gulfstream, but they will listen. That's the beauty of the Mac the software meshes with the hardware and no matter if there big or small. You plop a wad of M$$ and it just puts FOD in your engine. Job security I guess Geof Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day. Theodore Roosevelt, April 19, 1906 On Dec 21, 2004, at 2:24 PM, Aaron Willems wrote: Plus, in case you haven't heard yet, 95% of the world uses Microsoft Office. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Will Pismo run a 20 inch monitor
The monitor requires 75 mhz for any resolution and I can't seem to find if the this book puts out 75 MHZ . It's got 8 megs of ram but a quick check of what this would be Pismo could put out is not here. The monitor has a 26 mm dot pitch so not to bad, fine for what I will need it for. Again Thanks for the help On Dec 19, 2004, at 7:14 PM, PowerMac 5500 wrote: Yeah, it should work fine. I think it doesn't matter what size the monitor is, but the resolution is what counts. Don't know about open/close Geoffrey Loeffler wrote: Got a Pismo 500, 1 gig of ram, running 10.3 is there enough video power on the Pismo to run a Sony Trinitron 20 inch monitor at a resolution of 1024 X 768 in thousands of colors with the pismo. If so can you run with the screen down or should it be open Thanks Geoff --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Will Pismo run a 20 inch monitor
Got a Pismo 500, 1 gig of ram, running 10.3 is there enough video power on the Pismo to run a Sony Trinitron 20 inch monitor at a resolution of 1024 X 768 in thousands of colors with the pismo. If so can you run with the screen down or should it be open Thanks Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Pismo hinges died.
My favorite Pismo has definitely turned 90. The screen hinges are near lifeless, the road from a inch or 2 of play to full tilt flat either was rather fast, about 3 months and I baby this puppy. It was bought used about years ago. I have been inside Pismos to replace most everything including the power inverter(?) to the screen on my daughters Pismo. The $5.00 part under the anti beam alien beam and power button. So I have lifted that hold your breath part off. I am away from all my how to do info and the airport screeners are going to check her in a day or so and I can just see it go flop. I do remember something back there that would tighten the hinges, just not clearly enough and W/O better directions do not want to tear apart anything. Anyone been spelunking back there lately ? Thanks Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: AppleCare and my iBook (part 1)
On Oct 23, 2004, at 3:25 PM, CJ wrote: Here's my rave/rant about AppleCare's repair of my iBook. A while back, I traded a router, PIII desktop and some other stuff for a white iBook 500 with a dead optical drive and some video problems (the backlight was bad). Well you knew you were stepping into wet cow pies already and probably was going get a little deeper so: Did you check with Apple before buying this machine to see if the Apple ID was correct and still covered, or not stolen, Apple Care will not cover stolen machins. They are very helpful about that, might want a coffee it might be 3 minutes So I used it for a while with OS 9.2.2, which was installed when I got it. The display got worse and worse and worse until I couldn't take it anymore. I called Apple and waited for about 2 minutes before I got a tech. 2 minutes, geez I would not have had time to get my cookies and milk yet, you want to complain about tech support, 2 minute is not too bad. I gave the tech the serial number that was under the battery, and he told me that the iBook didn't exist. Probably a previous Apple Care repair, So I looked in the Apple System Profiler and got a different serial. This one worked. Weird. No thats the real identifier of the machine, unless the MB has been replaced and still again it is th.e #Apple wants In any case, the tech told me that it was out of support and it would cost $49 to continue the call. I told him about the repair program (it's on Apple's website). He put me on hold for about seven minutes while he checked it out. When he came back, he set up the repair. I gave my name, number, addy, etc. Then he told me that they could replace the optical drive (combo) with a new one for no extra charge. I agreed to this. I received the box and shipped it back with a prepaid DHL label on it. Apple received the box, fixed my iBook and shipped it back the next day. I had my iBook back by the end of the week, with a new combo drive and a fixed display. But that was not the end of the problems. I took the iBook out of the box and noticed that the delete key was off. The tab on the delete key was are. I called Apple and waited for five minutes this time. Dude you really must not make to many calls to customer care, 5 minutes to get answer, heck I would still have cookies and milk left. I got another tech and told him what was wrong. He told me that I needed to talk to a product specialist. I was back listening to the hold music for about 5 minutes, when the music stopped and the phone system kept saying please wait. I listened to this for ten minutes when the original tech came back on and introduced the product specialist. The product specialist sent me a new keyboard and I installed it. End of part one So you waited 13 minutes, lets just call it 15 minutes, I have heard the please wait and they always do it right in the middle of a great song. Let me get this straight You trade a pile of junk get a iBook 500 with a bad optical drive and screen. 15 minutes on the phone, for Apple Care, free shipping both ways, get a new combo drive and the display is fixed and back in your hands within the week, plus another call and you get a free keyboard, so WTF is the problem and is they greatest deal story I ever got or is the the suspense of the hard drive going to blow us away. I would say your pretty damn lucky and if your posting this as the best deal I ever ripped Apple for, what you forget is there were thousands who had REAL problems and struggled with APPLE CARE for years so you could post this little tale. Nothing is gotten for free, especially Apple, this battle took 2 years or more of people who bought new iBooks and then had screen problems, keyboard problems and spent MONTHS, YEARS, fighting Apple to back up their products and while fighting had to struggle with a crappy computer or in some cases no computer. Apple is only friendly when the courts are on the butt. So enjoy your deal, complain about 15 minutes on the phone, just remember a LOT of people made it possible for you to get your freebies, what have you done lately to make life better. Geoff Coming soon: part two: hard drive problems Any comments? Ya take the money you saved and give it to charity a lot of people out of work, then that would be worth reading, -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/
Re: irritating iBook shipping delay
Careful they might put you on the bad apple list when it come to time for any repairs... A statement from a customer like this is just unacceptable to any business that needs people, even if their business plan revolves around a 2% to 5% margin of users. It's always been a irritating and IMHO, a very weak and unprofessional area of the company, one that despite the Gulfstream makes it appear, not ready for prime time. Yes we will have the latest and greatest in your hands on Tuesday; times 3 their estimate add 2 lunar orbits for parts delays. See your friends were right. Of course it is the stupid parts company fault, not Apple. Finally it arrives about 2 weeks before every competitor out there has something close, cloney and a rip off. If they just had in hand, the product they showed at M.W. at the time they announced it and shipped them when promised, then company would company would just soar. Even if they kept there shipping dates on old stuff honest that would help. So the great product that just sizzled when Steve said here it is, just fazzled out into the void look a likes. But we, the dedicated Apple consumers put up with it. Why no one at Apple has seen this as a big negative. I do not know, maybe their afraid to speak up, maybe it's a tax loop hole, I am not running Apple, but as a business owner I would work 10 times harder to satisfy this customer. A happy customer tells 2 to 3 people, a unhappy customer will tell 10. What the hell I like my Pismo Geoff On Aug 28, 2004, at 7:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never would have gone through the online Apple Store if I'd known the delays were going to be that long. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
60 gig 7200 Noisy worth the speed
I have considered putting one of these in a pismo, anyone who has used one of these, is the noise of the 7200 noticeable. I have 40 GNX at 5400 and I do not even hear them. Appreciate the input 60.0GB Hitachi/IBM Travelstar 7K60 ***7200RPM** 8MB Data Buffer ATA/6 9.5mm UltraSlim 2.5 N Geoff I love my country but fear my government. Thomas Jefferson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Interesting related follow up on : Libel, Blah de blah, HypoCRASSy, etc.
On May 7, 2004, at 5:46 PM, Anne Judge wrote: The magazine was Consumer Reports. They get their information on incidence of repair from their annual questionnaire. Which every Mac head put Excellent for every category, including me, not again, they love to fly that flag. The truth a year ago after losing 2 Pismos within a couple of weeks of each other and the one still had a couple of months of Apple care, but all the way to Ms Gwendelyn Wells, head of Apple Care, they were rude, crude and lied.. This time I am going to shove the truth down their throat. The only way Apple responds to bad products is a law suit. Please no but I got mine fixed. No more mac preaching, do it or lose it. Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Interesting related follow up on : Libel, Blah de blah, HypoCRASSy, etc.
On May 8, 2004, at 1:22 AM, Mikael Byström wrote: Geoffrey, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Which every Mac head put Excellent for every category, including me, not again, they love to fly that flag. If I want to promote Macs, it's the OS I promote and all the apps, the community and so on. NOT Apple per se at any cost. Don't judge others or make conclusions about others based on yourself. So who makes the OS ??? If the OS is good and the Apps are good and the Apple community is good, but Not Apple per se at any cost, thats really going to keep the Apps and OS going. Not to mention the only machines to run them for the masses. I am glad to meet the only person not to bump any points, not one, on Apple's performance in Consumer Reports. Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Fake email
On May 3, 2004, at 6:40 PM, Harry D. Corsover wrote: On May 3, 2004, at 8:29 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote: Running Mail 3.3 it's real good about filtering these out, after about 3 days of training I just let it go, I may have 50 to 60 junk e-mails a day, but there junk and rarely does it mess up and put something good in the junk box and if it does, it's very easy to spot. I seem to get at least one legit email a day in my Junk folder. Most of the time I take a minute to update my Rules so the same sender's stuff doesn't wind up there. But I have to carefully scan that Junk folder before using the handy Cmd-Opt-J shortcut to permanently delete all mail in that folder. I seem to get 200 or more junk emails a day :-(. Regards, Harry Corsover Take one days junk and send all of it to you ISP support address, with a letter from you saying I get this everyday, please stop it. If this little mac mail can filter 50 or 200 and miss one a day, certainly the ISP's can do a better job, if no complaints, the ISP will ignore it. Mine said for a dollar a month we will do a better job I sent them a new load of junk the next day. Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Fake email
I get fake messages from eBay, if I send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems they slow down for awhile, I open the whole header for them, they always write you back and say it was a fake, ya I knew that. Ebay wrote back a few times telling me that a couple messages contained a Trojan Horse and if I had clicked one of the links I would have destroyed ebay and the the whole internet, except for for my Mac that is... I also send the spam to my ISP and say here you go. I think the more complaints the more they have to try and stop this. Running Mail 3.3 it's real good about filtering these out, after about 3 days of training I just let it go, I may have 50 to 60 junk e-mails a day, but there junk and rarely does it mess up and put something good in the junk box and if it does, it's very easy to spot. Geoff On May 3, 2004, at 9:15 AM, John McClernan wrote: Emery is right. It's called spoofing and I am a victim also. I just keep deleting them. The only way you can really get rid of it is to change your e-mail address - an option I'm not willing to exercise at present. My e-mail is tied to my business. My 2¢. John On 5/2/04 9:11 AM, Emery Stora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kurt Appling [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi all, I am occasionaly recieveing notices of mail unable to be delivered to such?such address, but I havent mailed such a thing to anyone... This isn't spam, but it is due to a virus on someone's computer. There are several viruses out there that infect PC computers. These viruses reside on a person's computer and look for email addresses that are on that computer. They then send out fake messages to those email addresses using other email addresses that they find on that computer as the apparent sender. They also include an attachment that, if opened, will infect the receiving party's computer. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Firewall's and DSL
I finally got DSL up here in the wilds, it's static connection. Using a Paradyne modem connected to a Net-gear 614 v2 router. I am using a Pismo with 10.3.3 with a small OS 9 partition, connected right now through a 802.1X connection in internet connect. I did not load any of the software that came with the router and the modem although the router has a set up page to load your mail settings and connection info, port selection a whole lot of stuff for someone used to just using an airport set up, which by the way does not work very well with this DSL the signal is so weak I cant get 50 feet, was going to do a bridge set up a little later and put another airport in the house for better reception to get better coverage. On set up there were a few choices, i.e. allowing a ping, selected no and one or 2 other items that were recommend to not enable as this would allow access to the computer. As the Pismo loads I see a section on firewall loading. I imagine this is part of the OS 10.3.3. So am reasonably safe with what I have or I don't have ? I will be adding to this network with a airport, and a another hub for the trusty 6100 G3, another Pismo and a G3 1400, printers, etc., no problems with neighbors picking up the airport, unless the moose count. I do online banking, stocks, and some legal work and medical work. I always log out and quit I.E. or Safari when doing some serious work and then restart the I.E. when I go just browsing, I do not restart the computer until done for the day and ready for the next day. I know nothing is really safe but would like a few road blocks if it's prudent and not just throwing money away. Any recommendations for software or hardware, that would make life more secure or is what I have reasonable or am I really directing traffic in the naked and the moose is going to take all my online info with the antler antenna . Thanks for any help Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport DSL Networking
Well, it is early in the morning and I may be confused but... My base station is one of the older ones (only one ethernet port and one modem port). Did you configure the base station before connecting it to the router? If not, connect an ethernet cable directly from the base station to the Pismo. Open Airport Admin Utility on the Pismo. Open Configure. Click the Network tab. Disable Enable DHCP server on Ethernet. Enable Enable Airport to Ethernet Bridging. Quit Airport Admin Utility. Disconnect the cable from the Pismo to the base station. Reconnect the base station to the router. See if the Pismo can now connect. I tried the above and in OS 9.2.2 with the latest software for the single ether net connector graphite software loaded airport under networks, enable ether net bridging was not available choice, the enable DHCP was there and I unchecked it but no other options or screens opened.. The router is working, that's good, but no wireless. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Airport DSL Networking
I am really Networking 101 so here are the facts-Need airport to work, system is ASDL DSL Paradyne modem, one out put port twisted pair crossover cable to NetGear 614v2 router. The NetGear 614 router has one Input Port for the DSL modem to connect and 4 output ports . I have successfully hooked up a Pismo by CAT 5e cable from output port 1 on the Net Gear 614 I have a CAT 5e cable from the Net Gear router output port 2 to my Graphite Airport Base Station The computer, a Pismo with an airport card sees the airport signal the airport base station is sending , but, will not make a connection, keep seeing different messages, unable to connect to that network, the TCP/IP is being used, even though I have selected the airport configuration and went in and checked the TCP/IP is selected to Airport and DCHP. Apple Talk is on. I have made and used configurations for my dial up ISP, via the internal modem in the Pismo, dial up via the airport modem, dial up via earthlink ISP for Pismo internal modem. And Configuration via the ISP for DSL through the router via Cat 5 to the Pismo. All work fine and can select and use those configurations. Except Airport I have tried to set up a configuration for the DSL airport =no go followed all the steps, even tried using the set up assistant to re configure the base station and set up a new configuration. The base station has Apples latest updates I used the base station modem on the Pismo for a couple of years I have done all this in OS 9.2. Tried OS 10.3 but did not configure to airport either. I am much better at 9 then X although at this point that statement is some what suspect, guess I knew I could back out of 9 where 10.3 would really turn a mess, anyway I will be using 9 and 10 on this little [EMAIL PROTECTED]( DSL network. So does the connection from Net Gear Router Output 2 to the Graphite Base Station Ethernet connector have to be twisted wire cross over cable or Cat 5e cable And Should the Net Gear Router Out Put Port 2 to the Airport Base Station Ethernet connection work and power airport with the DSL information so the pismos will recieve it . Open to easy fixes, would seem to run the wire from the modem to the base station but then the network would stop. So are there splitters that go on the back of the DSL modem that would power the Net Gear 614 and the Netgear Router Thanks for the patientce Unwired in Big Lake Geoff FWIW Computers I want to be able to use this and I have another Net Gear Hub, not a router just a Hub. 2 Pismos by airport 1 Gig of Ram 10.3 1 6100 Newer G3- 300 , 264 megs of Ram 6 gig 8.6 Hard drive Cat 5 1 laserweiter 360 Cat 5 1 HP 2410 Printer Cat 5 1 1400 G3 333mhz 64 mg RAM Cat5 by way of Card Bus modem/Ethernet -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Apple Care Question
That is true for some companies but this is why you want to call Applecare and maybe also check their website for international coverage information. It looks like they do have a number for Applecare in Korea so I am assuming they would cover it there. Do not assume anything You better be sure and call Apple Care and have them send you a letter saying you will have coverage even in Korea or if you travel to Korea. If you do not, you may have provided them a wiggle hole out of the repairs. Apple Care has become IMHO and by my experience very bad at customer relations. ie., the logic boards in the iBooks built between 2002 to 2003. These people complained, wrote Apple about the problems and suffered for years with crummy built computers or had to pay for repairs to get it done right. Now Apple has come around and is replacing the logic boards of these iBooks, under threat of law suit. Not the warm Apple I used to know. My experience a Pismo with 4 months left on Apple Care. When I called to set up a shipping date, the first thing the Apple Care guy said was, we do not cover spilled liquids in power books. Yes of course, but no liquid was spilled in this Pismo, he said I just have to make that clear.. Sent it in and they said, guess what: Apple says a liquid sometime in the last 6 months was spilled into the power book, it's not covered, we will fix it but will cost you $1,000.00 to have us fix it. I went right to the top of Apple Care. Gwendlyne Wells head of Apple World wide Customer Care. She was rude and rather crude. She should care less and actually lied about things they had done to another computer I sent in at a week before not covered and I had paid for those repairs.. Except the lies fell through because the techs left little bar codes on the parts they claim they never touched.. So on a lap top get it, even a iMac I probably would as the quality of the products are getting cheaper to keep prices down. Just make sure you get in writing what they say on the phone. The usually send out a welcome to Apple Care letter with your machines ID and your Apple Care Number. Good luck Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Apple Care Question
On 1-Mar-04, at 12:23 AM, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote: That is true for some companies but this is why you want to call Applecare and maybe also check their website for international coverage information. It looks like they do have a number for Applecare in Korea so I am assuming they would cover it there. Do not assume anything You better be sure and call Apple Care and have them send you a letter saying you will have coverage even in Korea or if you travel to Korea. If you do not, you may have provided them a wiggle hole out of the repairs. I have stated twice (in two different messages) that he *SHOULD* call Applecare ! I did not suggest that he assume anything. Your idea of the letter is good though. AKR Oooh ahhh yo man I lost 5 toes on that one Sorry I did not mean to insinuate that any information you gave was incorrect, that's why I left off the name of the poster, I just wanted to add the letter to what you had said. Will do a better job next time. can toes regrow To the next thought To add to this some one said Apple Care must be making money, Sure they are, they wanted to charge me $1,000.00 to replace an inverter board on my Pismo that was under Apple Care, they claimed a liquid of some sort was spilled in your Power Book in the last 6 months; as spilled liquids are not covered we will fix your Power Book for $1000.00. Liars Took out the inverter board installed the used one I bought for $9.95 and the gracious help of the people on this board and now it runs fine. That's how Apple Care makes money, ask Gwendlyn Wells Head of Apple Care World Wide Support her door is next to Steves So no worry Apple Care makes money Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Panther on Pismo
I have a G3/500 w/ 12 GB hard drive and 256 MB of RAM running 9.2.2. I have a new Lacie 160 GB Firewire hard drive for backups and digital files. What should I buy to accomplish a satisfactory upgrade to OS 10.3? And how much should I budget for RAM, new hard drive and program? I just paid $187.00 for 2 sticks of 512 to get a GiG of Memory for my third pismo.. Got it from DMS, thats up a little bit from a year ago but not too bad. You will really see a difference, especially if you go to 10.3 with the ram www.DataMem.com I do not work for them or anything like that but 6 orders and no problems and fair shipping to Alaska works for me. Os 10 seems to be a little picky sometimes when it comes to RAM so wherever you buy it be sure of their sales policy, return policy, and customer install policy. I do not like buying RAM second hand unless it's one of my non critical computers. Hard drive 5400 40 gig used to be IBM but now are Hitachi $150.00 http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Item.cfm?ID=6336Item=HIT08K0637 You can save 20 to 30 bucks and get a smaller drive but the 5400 speed really helps, plus I like OWCs return policy. Meaning they are pretty good about it. I have had some snags but OWC always made up for any short comings.. You can go to eBay and find some lower prices, but when we are talking small prices $180 for new RAM, on eBay probably $120 for 2 sticks. To me it's not worth the problems unless I know the seller, if the ram is bad DMS is getting it back and sending some new sticks like the next day no problem Hard drives, if your fixing this pismo to be your main machine, what me worry, no, I got the Hard Drive from OWC and their good about returns. Now if your talking about hard drives for my older books and DTs then eBay can be a very good source LEM is the absolute best for price and honest helpful folks So for $337.00 you will have a rock and rolling sleek black Pismo and when the upgrades that the rumor mills have been floating about Newer techs upgrade past 900 that Pismo may just not be out of the race yet. I think it's the best book Apple has ever made to date. So spend the bucks, get a $30.00 to $50.00 fire wire enclosure for your old hard rive. Make sure it is a powered enclosure fun and have no worries. Now if the could only get more video ram, thats the real weak spot for OS 10 Good Luck, lots of deals out there but these are two very good ones, and OWC runs this very list another good reason to buy from them. Geoff Mussolini, who invented Fascism (not Hitler), defined it as the marriage of state and corporate power. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ..red stripe Pismo...
on 03/02/04 21:35, Jim Scolman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, well I dropped the first computer of my lifeit had to be my beloved Pismo. It fell about two feet onto a carpeted floor, face down, that is, both screen and keyboard facing the floor. It still works but it now has a one pixel wide, vertical, red line about 1/3 of the way from the left edge. I flexed the screen, moved the lid back and forth, popped off the keyboard, I can't even see the video cable. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I can live with it but I don't want to. Thanks all. Jim Scolman What edge took the hit first, the front by the track pad or the back, corner was it a even landing? If you have a external monitor and the plug that came with the pismo you can hook it up and see what you see The video cable is the big old yellow feller on the left side it has a screw holding it in place To get at it where the hinge is there are a couple of steps. You have to lay the keyboard off, then just inside of the power button and sleep light lift up on the hinge cover, just put the screen back and pull up gentely but firmly. If you get a little nervous go back in the list a few weeks and you will see some posts by me that the good folks here gave me during my sweat fest and getting this cover off. This will let you see if the cable is getting pinched. Probably is not but you never know. Go the short way before the long way. Hope this works. The good thing, screens for the Pismo are not too bad. If you get one, get a complete screen so it just drops in. But your a ways from this yet. Good luck Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Keep Myy Pismo?
At 9:09 + 2/4/2004, Tom Burke wrote: Umm - I'm not sure what great features the Pismo had that iBooks (icebooks) and later Powerbooks don't have? With thanks to Low End Mac on Ice Man Although the G4 iBooks use a G4 CPU, it's not the same one used in the PowerBook G4 -- this version has only a 256 KB level 2 cache, which means it won't provide the same performance as a PowerBook at the same clock speed. Thats a wash, I have a gig of memory and upgraded to a faster HD The new iBooks support AirPort Extreme, which has 5x the bandwidth of the original AirPort. Also new are USB 2.0, Mobility Radeon 9200 graphics, room for an internal Bluetooth module, and the use of DDR (double data rate) RAM. So yes there is improvement there, the graphics are nice X loves graphic cards Base memory on the 12 model is now 256 MB (128 MB onboard, 128 MB in a slot), and all iBooks now ship with a Combo (CD-RW/DVD) drive. Max memory 640 Got a burner, Iceman has no expansion bays, or PC Card slot. I like my expansion bays total use ability. I gotta admit icemans price is right at $1000.000 probably lower with refurbs But I am still kinda following the flow to hold, Apple is not really wowing me away from my Pismo. Apple has really kicked butt with the DT market, hands down a maxed out G5 would be a buy. Bring that to a lap top and I would buy. It just seems there have been lots of little, sometimes big, but annoying problems with the books after Pismo. I think they need to go a bit farther to get me to bite. I know it will be a while but Apple sells more LTs then DTs So I hope they get busy. Now I just went to Apples site and for the 17 inch with the good stuff $5379.00 actually a little more then what my 1st pismo cost me by about 1500.00. Now you could save a little by installing ram, but on Power Books it is a pretty good idea to leave the stuff to Apple. As Apple Care is getting a little snippy. Yes it is 1.33 ghz but for 300 I can get 900 w/o the G4 of course. So the real bottle neck on the pismo is the graphic chip and for the OS the G4. Interesting comparison Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Keep my pismo or ??
I think the Pismo is the best power book that Apple has built IMHO It still keeps up with the OS Panther runs OK. OS 9 is faster-please lets not debate that I look at what Apple has come out with and so far I just don't see what I feel is worth the price. I do some photoshop, yes I know that would be faster, I would like to step in to video editing and the usual a little web designing and the usual other things we do. I know she is getting a little long in age, but really Apple Care just ran out on my other Pismo in May so that makes them 3 years old. OS 10 is really the push because you need the processor and video to speed things along. I have looked at going up to a 900 upgrade but those have had mixed results. So I am leaning towards waiting for a next generation or maybe even 2. Money is not the factor, but a lap top is, otherwise I would just grab the biggest G5. It just seems that every book after the Pismo has had problems, not all major but ones that a 3K to 4K book should not have. To be honest even the Pismo needed a new video card which equal a MB to run OS 10.2.3 I gave Apple $350.00to fix the problem. The inverter board on the other Pismo went out on 10.2.3 all within the same month. Apple Care was nasty and said a liquid was spilled inside the Pismo sometime in the last 6 months and wanted $1000.00 to fix it and were very nasty right to the top of Apple Care Ms. Wells Ya right. A $9.00 inverter board (used) fixed that. So let the opinions roll, new- used -stay-upgrade Thanks Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo Yo going Yo Yo
My YO YO adapter is going YO YO - I think I have a lose conection (in the adapter that is). Any ideas where to get one cheap on line? What is too much to pay on Ebay? thanks I have seen them new for around $50.00. If it is going bad I would replace soon. I had one that was arcing where the power cord from the wall plugs in to the Yo Yo. Not good. Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iPod off my Pismo
From: Geoffrey Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: iPod off my Pismo the new mini iPods, they require 6 pin fire wire or USB 2. My Pismo has a 4 wire firewire fire wire and USB 1. So does this put me out of the market for the new mini iPods ? The other two pins on the FW cable are for power. While I haven't tried it, a 4-to-6 cable should be OK for transferring data to/from an iPod. Are you talking about a PC card? A Pismo has two 6-pin FW ports.. --- JSH TiBook I have a pismo, I was looking at the firewire cable and counted 3. However with better minds then mine saying the pismo is a 6 Pin Fire Wire port I explored further. I see 3 on the top and 3 on the bottom, and the USB is backward capable, So looks like I am buying a round of mini iPods all around. Thanks to all Geoff Necessity is the plea for every Infringement upon human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. William Pitt 1783 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Ram upgrade enquiry on the Pismo
At 8:51 -0700 1/24/2004, John Collins wrote: The question-- they recommended that I buy pc133-- they said it would be a little faster??? Any comments about this. Interestingly they also recommended Viking or Edge, but when I got their sticks for a premium price--they had no indication of manufacturer. I think I was taken in--but the Pismo works great. On the PC 133 I am sticking my neck out here a bit because you have the G4 550 upgrade, but I do not think you will get a speed bump out of it. It may work in the Pismo just fine but I have never seen it posted or read that PC 133 will give you more horsepower in the stock Pismo then the PC100. jmo Viking and Edge or both named brands and the sticks I have seen the Viking sticker is on there. I have not come across and Edge brand stick. So they may have whacked you a bit on price and played a bit loose with the name. However, you did buy all these upgrades from them, so the real advantage is if anything goes wrong they can not come back and say your no name brand ram messed up the G4 upgrade. So if you paid a bit more, I think you bought yourself some insurance for that G 4 upgrade. If you can go to the link below and give a report of how things went with the G4 upgrade, it will help others make a choice. Post the PC 133 question, and put the ram situation in there too, you will get better answers then I can give and if indeed the ram was a bait and switch these reports will help stop this practice, if indeed it was a switcheroo on the ram. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/ So John sit back and enjoy the pismo. Mine have been great, a litle problem with Apple Care on one but Apple is going to really have to work and come out with a speed demon to get my pismo away and buy a new one. I think it's there best lap top. Then who cares what I think Be well Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
iPod off my Pismo
I am looking at the new mini iPods, they require 6 pin fire wire or USB 2. My Pismo has a 4 wire firewire fire wire and USB 1. So does this put me out of the market for the new mini iPods ? Thanks Geoff To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. --Theodore Roosevelt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Ram upgrade enquiry on the Pismo
Howdy! I currently have 128mb of ram installed on my Pismo and it's suffering slightly with multiple applications running in OSX 10.2.8. According to the manual the max limit is 512mb but I've heard that some of you out there have increased this to 1Gb. If so, which chips did you use and did you have any problems arising as a result of this, and what were they? At 19:01 -0900 1/23/2004, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote: I have upgraded 3 pismos to 1gig and have had no problems Mine came from Data Systems Memory I do not work for these guys just had very positive purchase results. www.datamem.com TThe chip you need is the 512 meg, 144 pin PC 100 32x64 CL 2 SD RAM T The performance from adding 1- 512 with your 128 will be noticeable. The prices seem to be edging up a little, if you can swing 2- 512s I would go for it. There are other places for RAM OWC comes to mind, maybe small dog computer. These are stable folks who will stand behind the ram. You can also check Ramseeker.com to compare prices. Remember lower is not always better. I have read more problems related to poor ram cause problems with 10.2 and now 10.3 so while a stick of ram is a stick of ram, who you buy it from is important if you get a bad stick. If I upgraded to 512mb should I buy 2x256mb chips or 1x512mb? Does it make any difference performance wise?. Again if all you swing at this time is 1- 512 go that way, you will see a real difference and keep you 128 stick. If you put in 2X256, your throwing out your 128 stick so to upgrade to 1 GIG you will have to sell both 2X256 and the 128.Maxing it out will make it useful for longer period of time. Each new program seems to eat ram just because its there, they should be writing better programs instead of pigging out on ram.. I would put the max in I could afford. The amount of RAM you have is what you have, but you will be able to open more programs faster with more ram. With 2-512s your virtual memory will be turned off and the book will really zing. The next step would be to upgrade the hard drive to a bigger and faster speed.. The good news you could sell your old one or put it a fire wire box $50.00 bucks OWC and use it for backups Finally if anyone has some spare pc100 chips they no longer require please drop me a line! Wish I could help you Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Buying an iBook
Hello, I'm new to the list and ready to buy my first ibook. My home computer is an old 7100 machine with system 8.5. It is networked with a Windows machine so I'll need an ethernet connection. I primarily want to run Filemaker and Flash MX, as well as general word processing. Has anyone used Powermax? They have a number of machines for under $1000 - http://www.powermax.com/cgi-global/generate.cgi?i=PM_CN_IB G. Harris I also have used Small Dog and have been very happy with the Customer Service. One of the best out there IMHO. Do not over look Apples Refurbs. Be sure to get Apple Care where ever you buy if applicable. don't forget 1st Powermacs for the 7100 Good Luck, Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo Memory?
On 1/6/04, John Collins wrote: My new to me Pismo has 256 Mb of memory in the J1 slot and J2 is empty. I think there is a difference in what can be put in. Can somebody give me some info or point me to an appropriate site. I want to add to the J2--What will work and any suggestions about purchase. Since i have not opened this one, can somebody point me to the instructions appropriate. There are also guides on Other World Computing's site to find which specific types of RAM you need. Don't recall if they have installation stuff, but you can find that on Transinternational's site and Apple's. Look on Apple's site for CIP - Customer Installable Parts and PowerBook (Firewire). If you have the user's manual that came with the Pismo, it also (IIRC) has instructions on installation procedures there. HTH, Jim Rohde You can put 2 sticks of- 512k ram one in the upper one in the bottom slot, this makes the pismo nice and speedy. I have used DMS, there is a link below to their site, OWC also carrys these sticks also. As said the owners manual tells you how to install, do a search and you will find sites that show you in video orpictures what you will see and what to do. It's pretty easy, always a little sweaty the 1st time. When reseating the processor make sure the green clips on the left side (facing the computer) go into their slot. This is important to reseating the processor. Don't be afraid to push down to hard. How too install http://www.transintl.com/technotes/installram_pismo.htm DMS price, do some checking, prices change, but these are good folks, also OWC http://www.datamem.com/viewitems.asp?C=1101K=IT_KEY=256action=openx=#DM50%20138 Good luck Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Pismo Experiment
Some questions, first I have added airport cards, ram, HDs, upgrade cards keyboards to pismos and other computers, so just enough experience to really make a mess, so I ask. As I go through the steamy jungle of DON'T touch that gizmo on your Pismo, thought I would ask for some help, ideas, or whatever I have a complete lower half of a Pismo less the processor. I have another Pismo that was reported as the MB being dead 1. If I place the processor from the damaged Pismo into the new Pismo, to see if the processor is alive or not, will this, if the processor is bad, damage the mother board of the new Pismo (within reasonable risk parameters-say a moon shot). I have a stick of good ram that I can fit in the processor. 2 Can I run the Pismo without the lap top screen connected and just connect it to an external monitor that I have via the external monitor port. Again just for test purposes. This will probably leave some connector unconnected. Is this with out danger. 3. Will testing the ram from the bad Pismo possibly hurt the new Pismo, not sure if the ram 1 Gig is good or not. 4. Anyone have a good site that describes removing and adding a screen to the Pismo, I have some photos but not real descriptive. I will have to remove the old screen from the defective Pismo and put it on the new lower half. This does not require replacing the plastics around the screen, just unhooking the cable, getting at the hinges and removing the old and adding it to the new, Now if I knew how to do that. Got the cd. from Powerbook medic, while the pictures are OK, larger would have been better. I found the instructions on disassembly and re assembly a little lacking for let's say-me a person who may get a bead of sweat when they open the book..but has the complete instructions at hand. Just in case anyone was thinking of buying one these, I have a volt meter have never really used one, but open to ideas, as long as at least the plastics will live. Well thanks for any help. Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo Experiment
At 8:35 -0800 12/17/2003, Jeff Hubatka wrote: The hardest part is taking out the cover at the back of the keyboard (has the power button and sleep light). I use a large paper clip, straightened out but with a little L-shaped hook on the end. You have to pull the plastic towards the trackpad on each side. The clip is just to the right of the power button and about the same place on the left side. It takes a pretty good pull to knock it loose. After that, unplug the inverter and mainboard connections, remove the four torx #8 screws inside the back cover, and lift the screen assy out. --- JSH TiBook Yes your correct, the most difficult part seems to be removing the clutch cover. This is covered in the inverter board take apart section. The manual says, after removal of appropriate parts to lift up until you can disengage the hooks at the back. Hmm sounds a little delicate. This is where I would get a bead of sweat on my forehead. I like the paper clip route. So how far do you lift up on the cover before you slide the paper clip in to disengage the clips. Do you go high enough to where you can see these clips or just go by feel. In the manual the photo implies I could lift this cover to about 45 degrees and this should disengage the clips. I think this might be a little dangerous on plastic. Thanks for the help Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Reasonable turnaround time to replace DVD-ROM module?
On 11/15/03 1:18 AM, Geoffrey Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: Apple wanting to take away your cd rom is wrong and stupid, you use it for cds until the new one arrives. What's the problem with swapping the old drive when the new one when it arrives? How in any way possible does this course of action be detrimental to Apple. Except make one more loyal person a little unhappy. At 18:55 -0500 11/15/2003, Kyle Hansen wrote: Here are a couple of reasons why. When a replacement is shipped and the customer gets a new one, the old/damaged optical drive has to be sent back to Apple as a dead core, they in turn send it back for a partial refund from the manufacturer of the part. You have 7 days to get it back to Apple in Elk Grove California. Now let's say that the shop gave him his optical module back during this repair so he could use it. Then on the 15th of November the shop gets his brand new one in from Apple. They have until the 22nd to get the dead core back. What happens if this customer is on vacation until after thanksgiving? Loses the core unit? Steps on the core unit? Has the core unit stolen out of his car? Accidentally brings in a different module? I maybe wrong, or just misunderstand. If the customer kept the malfunctioning drive to at least get some use of his computer and is able to use it for CDs, the new one arrives and the customer did not do one of the above listed scenarios or one of the million other things possible. Does it not equate to, no core no new replacement to the customer?. The dealer might be put out by having to return the new drive or wait for the next sale, and if this is a common problem costing the computer repair station $$ then a return or restock fee would be applicable and fair. I would not have a problem putting a credit card for problems listed above or any other requirements. Comply or lose your replacement drive and risk a penalty, but keep the computer in the customers hand until the new unit arrives. In business I have always run the company that the customer comes 1st, do anything within reason to keep them coming back. This is only my way of thinking. If I have a book and something goes wrong, it's under warrantee, the company lets me keep the book in my hands to do my work. I understand the terms of this agreement, I would leave a much happier customer then the original poster. If a part goes bad and the book still works but I have to give up my book because they think I am incapable of living up to my part of the agreement, I may have to wait a week or so to get the part and the book, I am not going to feel so good about the whole deal. I am sure you probably see the bad end of these deals with your experience, but somewhere between corporate and the customer must be a meeting point to keep all happy. I always lean towards keeping the customer happy. Someone once said to me a happy customer will bring you hundreds of dollars of advertising. A unhappy customer will cost you thousands of advertising. Thanks for the info and be well Geoff When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice. - Cherokee Nation - -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Reasonable turnaround time to replace DVD-ROM module?
I explained the problem and they said they would order another one for me on AppleCare. What got me upset is that they quoted me 4 to 8 business days before receiving the replacement DVD-ROM module. But worst, they insisted to keep the one I had for the exchange. That's bad because if I ever need a CD in the coming week, I'm SOL. It was working fine with most CDs, just a new one I got 2 days ago. So, is that what is expected from an Apple Service Provider? -Laurent. Apple wanting to take away your cd rom is wrong and stupid, you use it for cds until the new one arrives. What's the problem with swapping the old drive when the new one when it arrives? How in any way possible does this course of action be detrimental to Apple. Except make one more loyal person a little unhappy. This kind of treatment is really churning my gut about the way Apple is treating their customers. Seems like in the last 6 to 8 months they have really been very difficult to deal with on Apple Care repairs..Plus other issues over the quality of products. t When I needed work on my Pismo still under Apple care but with only 3 months left to go, I got stonewalled at every level of Customer Service. I got all they way to the top, a Ms. Wells who is the head of Apple's World wide Support and has a lovely snippy go way attitude. They cheated me out of a repair on a Pismo, said a unknown liquid was spilled in the computer sometime in the last 6 months. BS. I had 2 pismos. One under Apple care, the other with out. I sent the pismo not covered by A/C for repairs because it would not run OS X which it had been doing fine from the 1st release of X, I bought the early releases mostly to support the company, but I was also curious about X. When we got to Jag things were starting to come together, looked pretty good and I started replacing and upgrading the software for Jag on both Pismos. Then about of the release 10.2.3,or.4 the older Pismo would not run X. Troubleshot it for a month, no go. 9 ran fine but no X Sent it to Apple $350.00 to repair, I coughed it up came back and ran fine X fine but still use 9 for most of my work. Maybe Panther will lure me in. About a month later the Pismo 500 that was under Apple Care died. This was lightly used, got it when it was only a year old from a college student who only used it for one class, it was a beauty. I had put it away for my daughter for when she left for college, ran it enough to keep it happy but was in pristine condition. Same symptoms, around 10.2.3 it died. No problem I had 3 months of Apple Care left. The 1st call to set up the Apple Care shipping the Apple guy said, you know spilled liquids are not covered under Apple Care., Well duuhh yes. But felt like I was being set up . 2 days later got a phone call from Apple, said it was going to cost over a $1,100.00 for Apple to do the repairs. They listed the parts that were bad, funny the same parts were bad as the non Apple Care Pismo, but they wanted 3 times as much to repair. I got blasted for this once but one more time. I found, people who had worked for Apple Care and other Apple customers who related that they also got this spilled liquid story is a common way to deny coverage when a product gets close to the end of the Apple Care contract. The spilled liquid was a reason to deny coverage and hard to disprove. They were not disgruntled ex-employee, they were still using Apple products, and others were just common folks who got hosed. Do a search and you will be surprised how many are unhappy The only thing I can do is show my displeasure with the whole Apple Corporate treatment. I had an order for 10K for the new biggest bad boy G5 they could make me, it was time for a new tower for me and new PowerBooks for my kids who are in college and could use new machines that can run some of the new Apps that Apple has. After this and some other really crummy stuff from Apple, forget that. My kids still love and want Macs but it is going to be a refurbed emac, the other pismo I will fix myself and stay put. They have been working on windoz machines for months, windoz is a pain in the ass, but right now Apple is also Well that's my rant on your situation and the problem out there seems to be growing. I never remember so many people unhappy with Apple over so many things, never Hope it works out for you Geoff Where have you gone Joe Dimaggio -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription
Re: Last iBook/PowerBook that starts up on OS9?
15 TiBook. 867Mhz or 1GHz. I believe they're the last th boot into OS9. Discontinued, of course... These certainly can boot in OS 9 and are awsome machines (I own one :-)), though the reduced airport range is true (though not a big deal for me). But I have to concur with a previous suggestion: don't be afraid to move on to OS X. You won't regret it. And you still can use most of your OS 9 apps under Classic (though, probably, you'll find you need those less and less). Luis Is there any drawback using OS 9 programs under X start up machines only Does performance lag under Classic mode The benefit I see in OS 9 bootable would be 2 different system folders, but does this cause the machine to be slower and or create possible conflicts. Thanks Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo yo bites the dust (cable that is)
It appears that the cord/cable that goes from the wall to my yo yo adapter has a break in it right near the adapter end. Tonight I noticed that the battery wasn't charging, and when I moved the cable, there is this pretty little bright white light that flashes about a half inch from the round cable end. Does anyone have any recommendations on a good source for one of these? I'm presuming that it is possible to just by the cable, not the whole power adapter. Doug Doug and Bernice Hinschberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug, I will assume your kids have not been playing yo yo with the yo yo or someone has not been using it to play frisbee with the dog... Recommendation 1. Stop using it now. I would assume arcing could cause a power surge and possible damage. I would not feel confident that the insides of the yo yo have not been damaged by the arcing. Greater minds then mine will chime in on how much the power is converted to supply the precise + or _ amount needed in your book and the limits of fluctuations. Look in the owners manual. Call Apple Care, if your book is covered. Apple Care is getting a little more corporate these days, so a call to them if applicable would be a good move on getting this replaced and putting them on notice this event happened.. Recommendation 2. Contact Apple and tell them the YO YO is arcing, I am sure they will send you a new one. This is a poor design and when I sent my Pismo in for repair the YO YO came back in this arcing condition, goes back to that corporate thing again. This Yo YO seems to be one of those designs that looks cool but with average wear and tear may hurt someone really hard someday. Please, Apple does need a real 5300 disaster, the 5300 did not even touch a consumers hand and the world believed, or 95% of it, that the 5300s were burning down homes and blowing up in users hands. That is another story, not Apples fault. I did not notice mine arcing until 2 days after I got my book back from repairs not related to the YO YO. In my case I leaned out of bed to pick it up and it arced bad enough to discolor the yo yo with a bright blue and white flash. My book was not plugged in. I like the small foot print of the yo yo but the connector should have been engineered out to be tougher. It's just asking for trouble as these yo yos start to age. The brick power plugs were heavy, but a built like a tank. I would take a tank over fire or possible damage to my computer any day. The line cord to the computer rolls nice. The wall plug will wear if you roll it. Speak to a Ms. Wells at Apple World Wide Support at the mother ship, I am sure she will be glad to help. Anyone lower and you will get a phone bank and get no where but around the phone tree. Go to the source. Good luck and I will give you the quote from Ms. Wells at Apple Corporate after they fessed up 2 days later that they indeed used or switched the yo yo and battery from my book, stop using the power supply immediately, continuation of the use of the power supply could cause serious injury that Apple will not be liable for. Recommendation 3. Let Apple off the hook, get one from ebay for 50 bucks or so. Sooner then later people will be pranged by this and that's a concern. I really love Apple products, but the only way to maintain the quality is hold their feet to the fire, no pun intended, and expect and accept nothing but the best. I mean hey it's only a power cord right, but the power cord problems of the 5300 should have made them wise that this is a weak road of RD not to travel again. Let them know you will not buy inferior products. That's the way Apple used to do business, it was like an extended family member. You felt like part of the company. You could count on opening the box and the computer worked and still works today. Now it seems their moving a little closer to that corporate thing, ROI over returned bad parts or worse,. better then the other choice by far, for now, hopefully for a long time. Recommendation 4. Read all the other good posts on this subject, easy fix Good luck Be safe Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: A new start and Pismo Upgrades
. I did see that OWC is offering a G4 (Newer Technology NuPower Pismo G4/500MHz 1MB 2:1 L2 Cache Processor Upgrade ) for $290. I'm not familiar with their reputation but you can check out other buyers experiece with them at http://www.xlr8yourmac.com. HTH Joe Ellis I have ordered from OWC before int-ext HDs Burners etc, when there good, there very good, when things go wrong as can happen anywhere things can really slow down. FWIW I have found calling as opposed to online orders work better. If it's something you absolutely have to have the next day you may want to look somewhere else. Not time critical they have some very good items at very good prices. Everything I have ordered over the last 4 years still work. Also go over every thing on the item ordered, I ordered 2 burners the same model same price, one had a standard 3 prong plug, the other had a power cord that had a connector that looked like an ADB cord. It worked, but if you lost the adb connecter to the burner ?? Deal Mac is where you can usually find Larry if you have a big problem. I have gone over the Pismo upgrades at xlr8 but most seem to be a little light on info anyone here gone down the 900 road leaving notes here on the trail would be nice Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
A new start and Pismo Upgrades
At 15:20 -0500 on 11/3/03, you (Laurent Daudelin), wrote: I'm sorry, but I don't read the rules like you do. Using the email address that are freely available to other list members to send improper/nasty emails is the same than harvesting email addresses to spam people. People are joining the list to enjoy and access the vast knowledge of other members. They don't subscribe to receive nasty and insulting emails. Laurent is correct, as is Kyle. The list members come here to interact with the G book community. If someone in that community has some good information, is trying to be helpful with a problem and contacts someone off list this good is good for the community and helps the community grow. This is not going start the comments that grew out of that idiotic e-mail with the addresses harvested from the community that proceed this e-mail. If someone writes slurs, innuendos and foul language off list to list members e-mail this does not help the community, it tears it apart and is spam. If I am your next door neighbor, knock on your door and ask you if you need some help with your yard, that idea would be well received. If you knock on my door throw a rock, bust my car and call my wife a hot babe well... you get the idea. It's simple really, agree to disagree and be respectful of each other as most have, this is how we learn. Of course follow the rules the list owner sets down, it's their list. If the e-mail is offensive their are remedies. If this seems to infringing on your rights. If you are REALLY interested in your rights stop crying over this and read the American Patriotic Act That really has taken all your rights away. Back to G Books, who has used the upgrade proccessors in the pismo, the 900 sounds good, the G4 I really will not see a speed bump as I have a 500, except maybe in Panther Geoff The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. George Washington -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: G3/Trust in Apple
fix a machine?. Yes 2 times I paid for the 1st pismo $345.00/ Just to run JAG OS 9 ran fine. It was here I discovered the beast under the candy. The one under Apple Care for 3 more months they claimed something was spilled in the pismo *sometime* in the last 6 months. Ya right.. Found out from ex apple care workers this is a standard response. They broke my power cord and killed my battery. Apple's Ms. Wells, the top manager of Apple care, has an office next to steve, denied ever touching those parts funny they had Apple bar codes and writing on the battery and power cord. They lie. The company is changing and if you look to the future in 5 years are we still going to be typing on silly machine that takes more work to read the manuals to make it work at it's MAX productivity. I think not. Their going to bleed us while they can. Apple has changed and some very loyal customers are not happy. Check the boards Geoff Right ... troll. David Troll ?. You know this is the same standard stupid lame answer to anyone who just blindly says Apple or leave it. The Oxies lovers can not believe that there have been problems with this switch. I have bought Apple products from 1985 on and own more then I can count. I have supported the software makers who develop the products that Apple has to have consumers buy to keep Apple selling hardware, btw times 4, kids in school and I do not cheat. Now I go down the hall with thousands of dollars of software and think all this is not compatable/well sort of. I already have bought OSX from the start and replaced most big items, just to help Apple along and try to keep my kids up on the latest. I am not sure how long you have used Apple products but I can say from my experience this has been the worst hardware OS change I can remember. Also the worst split in Apple users, this is good for Apple... this is the way to keep the customers you have stay happy and bring more in?. I never hesitated to buy new or used A site and I just can not push purchase...and I am the only one right. BTW check the Apple boards on the ibook screens, those people are very happy. As far as my experience with Apple Care well I would be happy to give you Ms. Wells public phone number at Apple, she is in charge of Apple Care world wide, she is right next door to Steve and you can ask her about the damage done to the battery and power cord of my Pismo. A interesting article appeared in Tech Tails from Small Dog computers, of course this does not mean the whole line is crap, but a fan and noise that sounds like this. I am sure it has been fixed?. I think Apple is heading in the right direction, but the road has been really bumpy, many loyal Apple customers are not happy and they are just not moving up. Just the fact that discussions on the pros and cons of Apple among the people who use and like Apple products turns into mud says it all. Peace is not in the valley Geoff You call Donald Rumsfeld and tell him our sorry asses are ready to go home. Tell him to come spend a night in our building. - Pfc. Matthew C. O'Dell At 18:05 -0500 10/28/2003, Tech Tails wrote: Head Scratching Question of The Day We recently had a customer bring in their machine to us, which was a new G5, that as soon as you turned it on it sounded like my Mom's old 1980's hair dryer. You know that high dryer that you sit underneath that has the big plastic bowl that your head goes into? Well, anyway we ran the computer on the Apple service diagnostic's CD and it gave us a report that the fan speed was too slow. We are currently working with Apple on this one, but they have not yet seen this failure themselves, so we are scratching our heads on this one. Like always, any ideas would be greatly appreciated . Quoted from Small Dog Electronics, Inc. Tech Tails -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: G3/Mac OS X Settlement
I think Apple should be applauded on their decision to move to a modern operating system. It was a big move, totally rewriting a new system from the ground up took vision to make it successful and guts to do it in the first place. U UNIX is not new eye candy, it would have been awesome if they really did write a new code. Oh yeah...for those of you/us still running OS 9.It's been considered a dead OS for a couple of years now. Get with the times or QYB. Apple should not waste any more time or money un-developing their software so that it will run on machines that are years old. 18 months is a LIFETIME in the world of computing. Oh please, so every 18 months I am supposed to get a new computer just because Apple decides to go sideways. The good thing about Apple WAS that the were well built, software would run and upgrade for the last 9 years. This is a FORCED change and some people, the loyal Apple followers feel a little screwed. Give Apple $3500 bucks every 18 months, maybe a few professionals, not the average user. Macs were built to last, now their are just problems filled windoz boxes. My 1995 to 2000 power books and desk tops run fine. I have 2 pismos dead in 2 years, that's quality. share if they actually spent a bit more time understanding how to treat their customers ever had to return/fix a machine?. Yes 2 times I paid for the 1st pismo $345.00/ Just to run JAG OS 9 ran fine. It was here I discovered the beast under the candy. The one under Apple Care for 3 more months they claimed something was spilled in the pismo *sometime* in the last 6 months. Ya right.. Found out from ex apple care workers this is a standard response. They broke my power cord and killed my battery. Apple's Ms. Wells, the top manager of Apple care, has an office next to steve, denied ever touching those parts funny they had Apple bar codes and writing on the battery and power cord. They lie. The company is changing and if you look to the future in 5 years are we still going to be typing on silly machine that takes more work to read the manuals to make it work at it's MAX productivity. I think not. Their going to bleed us while they can. Apple has changed and some very loyal customers are not happy. Check the boards Geoff I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. - Thomas Jefferson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Trust in Apple
I would have to agree here. Apple could easily double their market share if they actually spent a bit more time understanding how to treat their customers ever had to return/fix a machine?. This is where Apple is really losing it, I never had to deal with them in the past except the old 5300 fix em 3 times and they work, I thought that was pretty cool of Apple, then I learned this came to be by a law suit. From 1985 all through the Apple road they just worked. The pismos is where I got my taste of Apple Care. Nasty, I really wanted to get the G5s put a 10K order together it is still there waiting to press order-guess we will rebuild the pismos and see what happens. I lost my trust in Apple, yes windoz sucks but the air is getting loud sorta like some of the early G5s I have heard about Geoff To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them. (Richard Henry Lee, Virginia delegate to the Continental Congress, initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights.) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Difference in Pismo processor 1 and 2
Can anyone explain the difference between the revision 1 and revision 2 processors in a Pismo 500 and how to identify the difference, are they interchangeable, is one more prone to problems then the other and any other bits of knowledge that may enlighten my journey to rebuild a Pismo Thanks Geoff I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. - Thomas Jefferson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Bummer, Dude, You're getting a Dell!
Homeland Security Awards $90 Million Contract to Microsoft; Microsoft admits critical flaw in nearly all Windows software. or What is Wrong with This Picture? Nothing at all, just ask our President he is right on everything, so why would he pick a Mac. Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Hard Drive Updates
Someone replied to one of my posts a while back that changing the hard drive in an Apple notebook does not actually void the warranty, just anything you screw up isn't covered under your warranty. Thanks for your advice. --Chris iBook 700 X.2.4 PM 7500/200 OS 8.6 PM 4400/200 OS 8.6, NetBSD I have a Pismo and called Apple today about problems with OS 10.2. I have read the article about customer installed parts and thought no problem. I was told by Apple that they will not look at the machine unless it is sent in with the original hard drive and the original 128 ram installed.. I told the service rep that I had installed a new drive and a memory upgrade. He did not care. The old parts had to be in the machine. They would charge 50 bucks to back up data on the original drive, but would not assure me that the data would be saved successfully. YMMV Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: magnetized screwdriver bad?
The magnets that control the read/write head have their polarities aligned to each other and as long as their lines of flux don't change in relation to the disk, they won't interfere with it. my $.02 Joe Ellis The things you learn in life over a dollar screwdriver . Just out of curiosity if the lowly magnetized screw driver touched the pins on the HD would that do any harm. If we are going to kill this urban legend and looks as if we are, lets put a stake in its heart. This was first brought to my attention when a 1gig HD was a thousand dollars. Remember those days.. Joe you must have had an interesting tour, did you do any time at Adak or Attu. Thanks Joe Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: magnetized screwdriver bad? (was re: Hard disk upgrade forpismo)
I hope I haven't been unknowingly creating magnetic havoc all these years Magnetic Havoc Wasn't that the name of the 1st Mac virus ...:) This tidbit was passed along to me from a friend who worked on electronics. I do not know how much the magnetic field would have to be to harm the HD., he just said not a good idea.. I know if the IBM people asked me if I used a magnetized screw driver to install the drive that for sure the limit for user abuse.on a hard drive would be exceeded. I have found forceps work pretty good at getting at that last screw that always seems to fall in that ##** place. Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Hard disk upgrade for pismo
don't forget the t-8 for the gommets. g The only thing I have found not mentioned that may help is be sure your phillips head screwdriver is not magnetized. Find a small screw and hold the screwdriver close to the screw on a piece of cardboard, if the screw moves at all as the screwdriver gets closer, get another screwdriver.. Sometimes the cage that holds the hard drive can get stuck under the lip of the back panel where your speakers and power button are. The hang up usually occurs at the back of the hard drive sled. A small thin plastic knife helped me put just enough pressure to slide the sled towards me in the computer and free the metal sled. Do not use too much pressure or the plastic holding the speakers may crack. When you get the hard drive out of the cage and are going to remove the cable connector from the old hard drive, do not mistake the copper pins you see on the hard drive cable as the connector to pull on. The connector to pull on is solid black plastic and is flush against the old hard drive. To see how it should fit look at the new hard drive pins, the black solid plastic connector covers these pins. It will take just enough pressure to make you sweat to get it off :).. If it is the original hard drive you may have to try pulling a little on one side of the connector a little and then on the other side to help loosen it. Do not flex up and down.. There is also a small black piece of paper with glue on the back, you can remove this from the old hard drive, I put mine back on. I think they use it for dust control. When you put the connector on the new hard drive align the cable connector to the left of the hard drive, this will leave some pins on the right side of the hard drive not connected, this is normal. Examine the old hard drive before removing the connectors to see what pins will be left unconnected. And how it should look with your new drive connected.. The sled slides back in to place, notice the plastic tabs on the bottom off the pismo and the metal tabs under the hard sled this holds the sled in place.. Lots of good light helps and be careful of static electricity Well I hope this helps, any other questions I know others will help answer your concerns. It is a little tense the first time, but then what isn't. Good Luck Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al
On Monday, Nov 25, 2002, at 05:50 US/Alaska, K wrote: EXCUSE ME??? THEFT??? The damage occurred during the prevention of greater damage to my home...A police report was filed and the adjuster ( a Nationwide employee rather than an independent adjustment firm, BTW) had absolutely NO problem with the claim.. They could very easily have rejected the claim but my actions prevented a much more expensive claim... This is not theft and is very offensive to call it that, but it seems some lads have special privileges in the sand box. FWIW First for getting up to see what the problem was you were being a good citizen and second intelligent to make sure your insurance policy included coverage for expensive computer equipment The policy has clear limits, if you were anywhere near not meeting the limits of the policy you can be sure your your claim would have been denied. It does not matter what a bunch of coffee drinking buddies sitting down on a job think, or posters on a list for that matter, it is the insurance companies decision based on a legal document between you and the insurance company. In fact some insurance companies specialize in computer theft and accidents a niche market but fills the need. Your situation was clearly an accident and that is exactly what insurance covers, accidents. This is not finding a loophole. You paid premiums for just this possibility, probably higher ones as the coverage was good. Now unfortunately it is time to collect fairly what is covered. Unfortunately you will not replace what you had, you will only get partial replacement. Filing a legitimate claim does not drive up rates, it is factored in as part of doing business, a tax write off for the Insurance company. There is no controversy here. No scam, no fraud, no immoral actions, just a legal contract and a honest good citizen. Some of the more ridiculous points about throwing the computer at the perpetrators head, well first that would probably would not be covered by your insurance and unless you were in grievous fear of your life then the person throwing the computer could be arrested for assault, yes dumb I agree. Grabbing a 9 mm to investigate a problem outside, well you better read up on your gun laws. Only in the instance of you again fearing for your life, with no other avenue of escape can you point the gun, let alone use deadly force with a gun. I do support the right to bear arms, but you better know when and how you can use a weapon. I listened to a lawyer in class for 3 days explain when you could and could not use deadly force, which does not make me an expert, but clearly use of force with a firearm it is very limited and litigious. Insuring a expensive computer is a wise choice or at least one that should be brought up, too bad anyone with a view not agreed on the list, by a few, get such harsh treatment, throwing slurring innuendoes because they disagree. That's not being a team player and again just makes people not want to support this community because they may be flamed for a question. But then we just have to look where it comes from. Healthy disagreement is good but people should not be insulted, we have enough of that in this world. Mike you did a brave thing and I am glad you got some compensation for the damages caused by the accident, the thieves were caught and nobody was hurt, and if no one else will apologize to you for your treatment here I will and do. It is just wrong to insult people for asking a question or doing a good thing. Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: wiping hard drive clean
On Thursday, Nov 21, 2002, at 21:04 US/Alaska, Obi-Wan wrote: They are licensed and bonded. None of your data will be shared, and if you feel so strongly about it then you better not go to an ATM in public, or use a VISA card a a store, or appear on a security camera, or (heaven forbid) get fingerprinted for a job. That's all I am saying. That is just a ridiculous comment, my visa card does not contain all the info that is on my or other users hard drives. I understand you may not think this is important but who gave you the right to rip a valid question with your paranoid tone and keep flaming me on list over and over. If you do not like the thread well just shut up, delete it, go away, who are you to call people names, because Lord Kyle speaks it is right.. There is software available for the very thing I wanted., Imagine that, other people want this and it even comes in OS 9 and X. I am very thankful for the people who lead me to the information I needed, they were kind and considerate. Some who posted off list, wonder why that happens, lunatics like you who flame people because YOU think the question is not worthy. That is what's sad you keep people away. I guess Aladidin Software is also paranoid for developing this. Why not write them and let them know your views on protecting confidential data.. The following is my strong personal opinion so stop reading at this point if you are easily offended So I guess because you are allowed to post strong personal opinions I will assume I will be granted the same privilege with out retribution, ya right. This is offensive to me and the only way you get away with it is, well you know that one. Your being rude and all this strong opinion does is again keep people away from the list community, afraid they may ask a paranoid question and have a unmanaged zealot like you attack them personally, as you are doing here. Then again your allowed in the sand box and you like your sand just so.. Oh it also makes you look very immature. BTW use of more bandwith right now would be a blessing for some It is people like you sir, that tie up phone lines by demanding unreasonable customer service and in the process make other people wait. You should have listened to the person at Transinternational and sent the drive back to IBM. IBM has a 48 hour turn around (faster than Traninternational), meaning that you would already have your drive back and not have wasted the time of the reps at Transinternational, or the time and bandwidth of the people on this list. Good Gosh son you are really crude and rude. First I have donated money LEM too try and help Dan keep these lists going so I guess that buys me a little of YOUR bandwidth, as you seem to think you own and speak for the people on the list, but seeing that it is turning in to Kyles Little Kingdom spewing forth insults that would get a lowly poster kicked off the list, that's the last of donations, and I was just getting ready to post my yearly lets all support LEM message, as all users should. I bought from Trans because they advertise on dealmac and LEM and I want to support the lists, that is why I bought from trans. Do you think IBM gives a rats bum about LEM...Too their benefit, after 4 tries trans and Damian did work out a deal that is fair and easy to both of us. If trans can not run a decent business tough, there are others who will gladly take my money and treat me well. This is the 1st order with trans. I will be sure to forward your comments Kyle right to Damian at trans and relate the treatment a customer gets from these lists if they bother to buy from trans and have a problem. I am sure your comments will do wonders for their sales. Heck you will be their poster child By going through Transinternational you place the blame of faulty hardware on the supplier...not the manufacturer where it belongs. By doing so you also remove stock from the shelves of the supplier that may be destined that very day to a school, or your friend, or myself... instead of dealing with the problem in a professional manner and contacting IBM for a replacement. Just my 2¢ == Kyle H. Hansen Some little school kid goes uneducated because I get a bad drive and want it replaced, sounds like the CBS movie of the week. Geez, get real, this is not the Sims or some other computer reality you alone live in. The drive I got is bad so I go to the end of the line with the bad wigets, wrong? If I had wanted to buy from IBM I would have gone to IBM, again Trans helps support this list, which unfortunately management allows you insult posters at will, without regard to even the most simple social manners. I try to buy from those companies that advertise on LEM or I did. If trans wants to be a middle man and not support what they sell then they should state it, or get out of the business, nowhere
Secure Delete
On Friday, Nov 22, 2002, at 08:05 US/Alaska, Tivo wrote: Aladdin Systems, maker of Stuffit has a product called Secure Delete. Does anyone have personal or experiential knowledge about this product's efficiency? I have ordered Secure Delete and will let you know how it works http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0204/09.securedelete.php Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: wiping hard drive clean
Mike and others thank you for the information, it has been a good education, this link leads to more info on Secure Data if anyone is interested. It is nice when people help http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0204/09.securedelete.php Geoff On Wednesday, Nov 20, 2002, at 22:38 US/Alaska, Mike Amato wrote: Aladdin Systems, maker of Stuffit has a product called Secure Delete. This is from their web page: http://www.aladdinsys.com/secure_delete/index.html --- - -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: wiping hard drive clean
Any debate on Toshiba v IBM is like Coke v Pepsi. It was in fact Transinternational who advised the IBM 40GNX was better than the Toshiba, a view I agreed with after my research fwiw. As for Trans, It in fact has taken 3 phone calls and a e-mail on 4 different days to get a RMA from Trans. They then wanted to push me off directly to IBM as Trans could not guarantee they would have a replacement drive on hand when mine arrived. We worked it out today but rather bumpy RMA ride I would say. If I were sending either of my kids pismos drives in it would not be a big deal about wiping the drive. You may not care if others share your data, I do. However, to make such a impudent remark as in your post below, referring to someone who is asking a question as paranoid is boorish and takes away some of the good work you accomplish here. Do not let the titles go to your head or effect honest questions. Your comments can dissuade people who may have a question or an answer but are concerned they maybe belittled, be it right or wrong in your view. Some of the best replies to questions I have had come off list, just for these reasons, sad. This is a living breathing community one that can only grow if the attitudes are open and friendly, not littered with remarks that rebuke a question be it simple or complicated. Again thanks to all of you who decided to take the time to explain and show me the options available. I learned a lot. Geoff On Wednesday, Nov 20, 2002, at 21:11 US/Alaska, Obi-Wan wrote: On 11/20/02 9:56 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: This thread has been very interesting, and I thank all who have helped. So really there is no way to safely protect the information I have on this month old drive. It holds multiple online bank account numbers, passwords, 3 stock accounts, passwords and similar personal Maybe TransIntl deals in poor products, this was my 1st buy from them and they have brushed me off with 2 phone calls and 1 e-mail saying the right person is not there to handle the RMA. Now it seems the only protection is to eat the drive cost to protect the data. The zeroing 7 times sounds good but how hard would that be to break?? Thanks again for all the help Transinternational is a fantastic company. I always use them for drives. IBM drives IMHO stink...almost as bad as Western Digital. I only use Maxtor in Desktop machines, and Toshiba in laptops. IMHO you are being paranoid. Just send the drive to them and be done with it. They are insured and reputable...if not bonded. No one will try to recover your data. -- == Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician Apple Solution Expert Macintosh Server Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: wiping hard drive clean
This thread has been very interesting, and I thank all who have helped. So really there is no way to safely protect the information I have on this month old drive. It holds multiple online bank account numbers, passwords, 3 stock accounts, passwords and similar personal and company info that I would not want the next guy who buys this off ebay or wherever it ends up after TransIntl gets it back. I had hoped the IBM 40 GNX would have a better track record then one month before clicking and scratching on startup and till now. Plus the fun of reinstalling 10.2, I have heard of Carbon Copy but not perfect, where is conflict catcher for Jag ? Maybe TransIntl deals in poor products, this was my 1st buy from them and they have brushed me off with 2 phone calls and 1 e-mail saying the right person is not there to handle the RMA. Now it seems the only protection is to eat the drive cost to protect the data. The zeroing 7 times sounds good but how hard would that be to break?? Thanks again for all the help Geoff On Tuesday, Nov 19, 2002, at 17:37 US/Alaska, Obi-Wan wrote: On 11/19/02 3:54 PM, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: Obi-Wan wrote: All I am saying is that there is no real safe way to be sure that your data is 100% unrecoverable, which is what the person was asking. That's all. Well, there is, but you'll lose out on the trade-in value: an industrial shredder will pretty well take care of any data recovery issues you might have. This is, in fact, the preferred way of some corporations to 'surplus' old HDD's. That's why my ex-Motorola 7600 came with no hard drive in it... Then if you want to be showy about it, about a half-pound of thermite will do it, too. ;-) This is VERY true. In fact Lawrence Livermore Labs does shred/compact their drives after they are done, but that is only for internal computers drives, and this guy hired me to work on his home network. Thermite is also a fine (a bit gaudy though) method. ;-) I think the original poster wanted to send their drive back on an RMA though. He he. -- == Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician Apple Solution Expert Macintosh Server Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
wiping hard drive clean
I have to send my 40 GNX back to trans intl, very loud and clicking sounds coming out of it right from the start and continued for last 30 days. I need to wipe this drive clean, really clean. Will apples disk utility on 10.2 wipe it so no info will be able to be recovered or seen. If not what is best way delete the data I have on it. Thanks Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
connecting with Mom
Greetings, Mom has a year old iMac I gave her last xmas running 9.2, ! gig of memory and a 20 G HD, a SBC DSL connection, at 83 she is doing a heck of a job getting connected , surfing the curl and e-mailing. So far we have worked things out over the phone talking through the e-mail programs, saving photos, etc, the easy stuff. Once she gets going she is OK . But at times it is a little difficult to understand what a gitchamagoo or a thingamagig is on her desktop from this end, ahh kids.., they just do not understand . Would like to get her scanning and setting up the family info in Appleworks and a few other programs. I am in Alaska, she is in Ohio so can't just run over there to set things up. I have a Pismo and have 9.2 or 10.2, jag is my primary now, I also have a 6100 G3 8.6, all with only a dial up 28k connection, the price of paradise. Is there a way I could connect to her computer over my connection and have complete access to her computer, desktop and files so I could run her computer from here and she watches and learns as I tell her what is happening and also watch what she does. I am a little afraid to go on to 10.2 with her as if anything got really messed up I probably would have to go to Ohio to get her e-mail going... She has to have that e-mail now... Although if I had to, I could set up a external hard drive with Jag on it for her, but more $$$. I think I would also like to stay in 9.2 because of better scanning options as far as hardware and software, please correct if this is way off base. I have a Epson ES 1000 C that has served me well, scsi, but thought something along that line would work for her, just go to firewire If there is any area that I am really weak at it is definitely linking macs, I know easy as pie, I still have phone net connectors all over the place that I am someday going to connect...well someday.. So, if there is any brave soul willing to advise please put forth any solutions and a thousand tribbles shall be yours to give un to whom ever you wish. Thanks Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Pismo operating temp
I have been running Thermoindock for a few days and have seen temps as high as 157 average seems to be 125 to 140. One time the fan did come on and only after I left it on a leather couch for about 30 minutes. Is this temp normal?? I do not know if Thermoindock is accurate but the bottom of this pismo could be used for roasting chestnuts at times. I have had it for a years and the bottom feels the same temp to me but these temps seem high. Thanks Geoff Pismo 1 Gig Memory 40G IBM fd hd -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Installing HD on pismo
Got the IBM 48 G Hard Drive for my Pismo, is it possible to just drag and copy my 10.2 system from my external firewire drive or should I do a reinstall of 10.2 on the new internal hard drive If I do a reinstall on the new internal drive can I just copy my OS X software, photoshop, appleworks, word, excel etc. from my external drive to my new internal drive without leaving something behind, or do I have to reinstall the X specific software as well. I am assuming that I can copy my system 9.1 from the external to the internal without a problem and no reason to reinstall that ? Thanks for the help, as X is new so I learn geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: G4 For Prismo!!
I think it will be more interesting to see how a company that has already gone out of business once will be able to convince customers to trust them the second time around. I have a Newer Tech G3 card in my trusty ol 6100, never missed a beat, I think Newer techs quality was good, the business plan well maybe not so good, but in the Mac market it is a tough ride. Not sure of the principals behind the newer Newer ' but if the crew who marketed the last of the old stuff, they are good folks.. Glad to see someone trying to keep the Mac after market products going. In the computer business life is measured in dog years... Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
VST 10 Gig Expansion Bay HD in Pismo
I have a couple of these VST 10 Gig expansion Bay drives, they come with system 8.6 on them, the Apple Drive set up in OS 9 recognizes them so I should be able to format them with Apple HD set up, partition, and use OS 10 from the expansion bay drives as I make the transition from 9 to 10, I think... hope.. I am trying to make a system on the VST that runs only OS X and not mix them 9 and 10 If anyone is using the VSTs expansion disk to successfully run OS 10.1.3 and to use it as a start up disk under OS X I would really like to hear that it will work I installed a copy of OS 10 on a 40 gig firewire external drive, can I just copy that whole OS X folder off the firewire drive to the expansion bay VST and have a bootable system under OS X, or will I have to use an external CD rom to successfully install OS. X on the VST expansion bay. As the bay has to have the vst into to load OS X from my disk, what's a person to do,, Thanks Geoffinak Pismos 1 gig memory -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com