[gentoo-user] Razor emerge Error

2003-06-25 Thread Denny Schierz
hi,

i can't emerge Razor, is that a known error?

Appending installation info to
/var/tmp/portage/razor-2.12/image//usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i686-linux/perllocal.pod
/var/tmp/portage/razor-2.12/image//usr/bin/razor-client
Can't locate URI/Escape.pm in @INC (@INC contains: lib
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i686-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at
lib/Razor2/String.pm line 5.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at lib/Razor2/String.pm line 5.
Compilation failed in require at (eval 5) line 3.
...propagated at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/base.pm line 64.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at lib/Razor2/Client/Core.pm line 21.
Compilation failed in require at (eval 1) line 3.
...propagated at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/base.pm line 64.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at lib/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm line 17.
Compilation failed in require at
/var/tmp/portage/razor-2.12/image//usr/bin/razor-client line 21.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/var/tmp/portage/razor-2.12/image//usr/bin/razor-client line 21.
make: *** [install_razor_agents] Error 2

!!! ERROR: net-mail/razor-2.12 failed.
!!! Function perl-module_src_install, Line 76, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)

any suggestions?

cu denny


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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia - mozilla

2003-06-25 Thread CABEC2
At 01:57 25/06/2003, you wrote:
Hello,
I've been running gentoo fine for about 7 months now.  about a week ago I
did:
emerge -u world
at which time KDE started acting up.  I use KMail so I decided to switch to
Mozilla mail becuase I didn't want to be tied to KDE in my plans to switch
to fluxbox.  Then, the next time I booted, X didn't start - NVDriver did not
load.  I had noticed that when I last emerged that the name of the module
switched to nvidia, so I insmod nvidia, then started kdm, then everything
worked ok.  However, when I insmod nvidia - it starts with errors and says
it will cause problems to the kernel.  And now to the problem.  Mozilla
doesn't save it's profile.  I've had to set up my mail twice.  I'm sorry
this email is so vague, but I really don't know where the problem is so let
me list some:
1.  I added nvidia to modules.autoload, however it fails to load upon
startup
did you launch modules-updates after emerging nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx ?

2.  When I insmod nvidia, it starts with errors.
don't bother, it's (almost ;p) normal

3.  Mozilla's profile is deleting on me (I'm assuming since my customization
is gone and my mail and mail accounts are gone)
maybe you don't have the rights to register those infos (i can't see why, 
but who knows ;p), then mozilla remember them as long as he runs, but can't 
save them after.. just a possibility.

4.  My computer has frozen twice in the last week.
did you try to check your hardware, using memtest86 for example (it's in 
portage), or looking at your cpu/mobo temp ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread MAL
Ohad Lutzky wrote:
I'm a total networking noob, but I'd like to set up a home network. My
current PC (running Linux) is connected over ADSL using rp-pppoe. It has
a printer as well, running on CUPS. My other PC, an old Packard Bell
(bleh) P133 running (walking, rather) Win98. How would I set this up?
The only home LAN setup I've ever seen is connecting the hub to the
modem, and then connecting PCs to the hub. But my ADSL connection
requires me to log in (rp-pppoe takes care of that). Also, will the
two PCs see each other on a local network? Or will they have to
communicate over the external network? If so, how will they be assigned
different IPs?
I'm afraid you can't connect a modem to a hub (in this circumstance) :)
If your ADSL modem only has an ethernet port, your linux box will need 
two network cards.  One to connect the PC to the hub, and one to connect 
the PC to the modem.  If the modem has a USB port, and it's one of the 
(relatively few) ADSL modems with a Linux driver, you could connect it 
via USB and thus avoid the need for a second network card.

To actually get the second PC on the internet, your Linux PC will need 
to have the following enabled in the kernel:

Networking options ---
  IP: Netfilter Configuration  ---
Connection tracking [M]
IP tables support [M]
Full NAT [M]
  MASQUERADE target support [M]
Your Linux machine needs the above options to perform NAT.. specifically 
IP masquerading.  This allows both your PCs to have LAN IP addresses, 
(192.168.0.x), but both use the internet, (by having their IP address 
'translated' into your ADSL IP address, and back).

You may well also want some firewalling options, so enable at least:

Networking options ---
  IP: Netfilter Configuration  ---
Packet filtering [M]
All these can be staticly compiled instead of modules.

You then need some way of enabling NAT, (and possibly firewall).
There are some graphical firewall setup programs, but I think it's 
easier and faster to get it up and running with a simple pre-written script.

I find this one satisfactory for home use:
http://firewall.lutel.pl/
Simply fill in your various interface names, and specify what ports you 
want available to the internet and the LAN, then run it with ./firewall 
start.  Note: you will need to have recompiled your kernel and the 
modules, and rebooted, before this can do it's job.

The last step is to set up your two PCs /internal/ interfaces.  For such 
a small network, I would simply give your Linux PC the IP:

192.168.0.254

and your Win98 machine: 192.168.0.1

x.x.x.254 is commonly used for a gateway machine on LAN, and this is 
exactly what your Linux PC will be.

You will also need to set your Win98 box's Default Gateway to 
192.168.0.254, and it's DNS servers to whatever your ISP gave you.

MAL

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread CABEC2
At 10:01 25/06/2003, you wrote:
Ohad Lutzky wrote:
I'm a total networking noob, but I'd like to set up a home network. My
current PC (running Linux) is connected over ADSL using rp-pppoe. It has
a printer as well, running on CUPS. My other PC, an old Packard Bell
(bleh) P133 running (walking, rather) Win98. How would I set this up?
The only home LAN setup I've ever seen is connecting the hub to the
modem, and then connecting PCs to the hub. But my ADSL connection
requires me to log in (rp-pppoe takes care of that). Also, will the
two PCs see each other on a local network? Or will they have to
communicate over the external network? If so, how will they be assigned
different IPs?
I'm afraid you can't connect a modem to a hub (in this circumstance) :)
If your ADSL modem only has an ethernet port, your linux box will need two 
network cards.  One to connect the PC to the hub, and one to connect the 
PC to the modem.  If the modem has a USB port, and it's one of the 
(relatively few) ADSL modems with a Linux driver, you could connect it via 
USB and thus avoid the need for a second network card.
Wrong ;)
i used this config for a while (before buying a second NIC on my gateway ;p) :
adsl model (ethernet) connected on hub, three pcs on th same hub (1 linux 
gateway, 2 workstation under linux/win XP)
and i was able to use the modem from every pc (only one at a time though 
;p), i never understood how, but it worked, and allowed me to reinstall my 
gateway using internet (useful for gentoo ;p) via my main workstation, 
withtout having to modify any physical connections in my network...

maybe it was a patricular case, but i don't think so =)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread MAL
CABEC2 wrote:
I'm afraid you can't connect a modem to a hub (in this circumstance) :)
If your ADSL modem only has an ethernet port, your linux box will need 
two network cards.  One to connect the PC to the hub, and one to 
connect the PC to the modem.  If the modem has a USB port, and it's 
one of the (relatively few) ADSL modems with a Linux driver, you could 
connect it via USB and thus avoid the need for a second network card.
Wrong ;)
i used this config for a while (before buying a second NIC on my gateway 
;p) :
adsl model (ethernet) connected on hub, three pcs on th same hub (1 
linux gateway, 2 workstation under linux/win XP)
and i was able to use the modem from every pc (only one at a time though 
;p), i never understood how, but it worked, and allowed me to reinstall 
my gateway using internet (useful for gentoo ;p) via my main 
workstation, withtout having to modify any physical connections in my 
network...

maybe it was a patricular case, but i don't think so =)
Yes, only one at a time... meaning it's pointless.  You aren't 
circumventing the need for multiple network cards at all.  You might as 
well just plug the modem into each pc one by one.
All you are doing is extending the network connection that would 
normally connect the modem to the PC, by sticking a hub inbetween.

If you had a routing capable modem, ie. a router, you /could/ connect it 
to a hub.

I did however, just wonder whether maybe you could connect the modem to 
the hub as you stated, then configure your linux pc only to 'dial up' 
via the modem, and run IP masquerading on it.  Then set all the other 
machine's gateway's to the IP of your linux box.  No idea how this would 
affect the modem's ability to operate.  It may get confused by broadcast 
packets from the other PCs.

MAL

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread CABEC2
At 10:17 25/06/2003, you wrote:
Yes, only one at a time... meaning it's pointless.  You aren't 
circumventing the need for multiple network cards at all.  You might as 
well just plug the modem into each pc one by one.
All you are doing is extending the network connection that would normally 
connect the modem to the PC, by sticking a hub inbetween.
in my case I was quite happy to discover that, since i'm really a lazy boy, 
and being able to modify my routing and connection point without moving 
anything in my bedroom was really a pleasure. that way, i can hide 
everything behind lots of   mess, without having to dig through when i need 
to change something ;p

If you had a routing capable modem, ie. a router, you /could/ connect it 
to a hub.

I did however, just wonder whether maybe you could connect the modem to 
the hub as you stated, then configure your linux pc only to 'dial up' via 
the modem, and run IP masquerading on it.  Then set all the other 
machine's gateway's to the IP of your linux box.  No idea how this would 
affect the modem's ability to operate.  It may get confused by broadcast 
packets from the other PCs.
that's what i did, for at least 6 monthes. the linux box was my gateway, 
controlling the connection and making NAT/masquerading, connected to the 
hub, and the modem on the hub too. it worked well, and the modem was'nt 
disturbed by broadcast =)

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[gentoo-user] a bug?

2003-06-25 Thread Stephen Turner
hey i found a funny behavior! try using phoenix to surf your hard drive. i
went to /root to move some files around and a folder became out of view
anyways i allready had the file and was in the dragging mode and when i
tried to let go in a manner to make it do nothing it actually got phoenix
to go into a file copy loop with the root directory! copying the file over
and over never satisfied! well after a few quick exits of phoenix it
stopped. nothing serious didnt crash my system tho its possible i guess.
just thought someone might be interested! lol neat trick. later guys

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[gentoo-user] Problem with scp

2003-06-25 Thread Paul Colquhoun
I have only recently migrated to Gentoo from RedHat and so far it's been 
fairly smooth and uneventfull.

The only problem I am having is with scp. I have openssh installed, and 
can ssh into the box, but cannot copy files to the box with scp. When I 
try, I get asked for my password (as expected), then the session just 
sits there, doing nothing.

I have tried turning on debug mode on the sshd, and using -v on the scp 
client, but neither have shed much light on the subject.

# sshd -version
sshd: illegal option -- v
sshd version OpenSSH_3.6.1p2

I have checked the Gentoo web forums, but cannot see any reports of 
similar problems.

It's probably something obvious that I'm simply overlooking, but it has 
me stumped at the moment.

Any help or pointers to documentation or tests would be appreciated.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with scp

2003-06-25 Thread MAL
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Paul Colquhoun wrote:

The only problem I am having is with scp. I have openssh installed, and 
can ssh into the box, but cannot copy files to the box with scp. When I 
try, I get asked for my password (as expected), then the session just 
sits there, doing nothing.

What command do you use to scp? (whole command line).

MAL


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[gentoo-user] Mozilla and Java plugin

2003-06-25 Thread Dan Fairs
Hi,

A little while I posted with a problem about getting my Java plugin to
work under Mozilla. Afraid I couldn't find that message to reply to, and
I just wanted to let people know that emerging sun-j2sdk and compiling
Java from scratch, then pointing the symlink to the new plugin has
worked! Many thanks to all those who made suggestions.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] cd-burning

2003-06-25 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Wednesday 25 Jun 2003 06:26, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
 Le mardi 24 juin à 20 h. 33, Peter Ruskin a écrit notamment:
  On Tuesday 24 Jun 2003 16:48, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
snip

 Checked out /etc/devfs.conf; then wrote in fstab:
 /dev/sr0  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660 noauto,ro,users
 0 0
 Was this what you meant?
 Then:
 bash-2.05b# cdrecord -scanbus
 Cdrecord 2.0 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg
 Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open
 '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets
 try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For
 possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. and also:
 bornier% mount /mnt/cdrom
 mount : le périphérique spécial /dev/sr0 n'existe pas.
 meaning that /dev/sr0 does not exist!

 Maybe sr0 doesn't suit my setup, but I have no what this means?
 Thanks for more help,

You need to restart devfsd for the changes to /etc/devfs.conf to take 
effect.  I did that by rebooting :-)

$ ll /dev/sr0
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   31 2003-06-24 21:09 /dev/sr0 - 
scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd

You could try (as root):
ln -s /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd /dev/sr0

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with scp

2003-06-25 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 07:36 pm, MAL wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
 
 The only problem I am having is with scp. I have openssh installed, 
and 
 can ssh into the box, but cannot copy files to the box with scp. When 
I 
 try, I get asked for my password (as expected), then the session just 
 sits there, doing nothing.
 
 What command do you use to scp? (whole command line).
 
 MAL


$ ls -l xx
-rw-rw-r--1 paulcol  paulcol   104 Sep 26  2002 xx

$ scp xx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:

The box I am using above is not Gentoo, but a RedHat 7.3 install.

I can connect between the same two boxes with ssh:

$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
Last login: Wed Jun 25 18:03:40 2003

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde/gnome won't start with xfree 4.3.0-r3

2003-06-25 Thread Juan ngel
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Try to start kde without the kdm or xdm, maybe it just works for now.
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[gentoo-user] changing firebirds default startup page globally?

2003-06-25 Thread Merritt Krakowitzer
when editing the all.js file and changing the following

pref(browser.startup.homepage,
chrome://navigator-region/locale/region.properties);

to

pref(browser.startup.homepage, http://www.mysite.org;);

Mozilla crashes on startup with no errors. Am I doing this wrong? All I am
trying to do is change the default startup page. I'm rolling out firebird
to 100 workstations and I dont want to set this manually for each user.

Changing other settings in the all.js file like the proxy have worked like
a charm.

Im using: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030611
Mozilla Firebird/0.6 on gentoo offcourse.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with scp

2003-06-25 Thread Daniel Jaeggi
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:48:49PM +1000, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
  What command do you use to scp? (whole command line).
  
 
 $ scp xx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
 

Have you tried inserting a full path like:

$ scp xx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/paulcol/

and seeing what happens?

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[gentoo-user] mozilla cyrillic fonts

2003-06-25 Thread Vano Beridze




Hello I just installed Gentoo. I insatlled 
also Mozilla 1.3 I emerged freefonts and sharefonts When I start 
Mozilla and go to Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts - Fonts For Cyrillic 
Combo Boxes are grayed out with the message "No fonts available for this 
langugage" What should I do? Without this I cannot use gentoo. I have to 
develop pages with WinCP1251 Encoding and instead of showing russian 
characters It shows some strange signs. Thank you

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Technicolor Logfiles

2003-06-25 Thread Tom Eastman
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 03:16:53AM -0700, Zack Gilburd wrote:
 I've never used swatch, but I can tell you that colortail is horribly
 segfaulty and I would not recomend it.

Yeah I seem to have discovered that for myself.  It's a pity, because
it's exactly what I wanted!

Tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:01:12AM +0100, MAL wrote:
 I'm afraid you can't connect a modem to a hub (in this circumstance) :)
 If your ADSL modem only has an ethernet port, your linux box will need 
 two network cards.  One to connect the PC to the hub, and one to connect 
 the PC to the modem.  If the modem has a USB port, and it's one of the 
 (relatively few) ADSL modems with a Linux driver, you could connect it 
 via USB and thus avoid the need for a second network card.

No USB ports here... neither on the modem nor the computer.

 To actually get the second PC on the internet, your Linux PC will need 
 to have the following enabled in the kernel:
 
 Networking options ---
   IP: Netfilter Configuration  ---
 Connection tracking [M]
 IP tables support [M]
 Full NAT [M]
   MASQUERADE target support [M]

Can't see those. I can see Network packet filtering (replaces ipchains)
though. vanilla-sources-2.4.21.

 Your Linux machine needs the above options to perform NAT.. specifically 
 IP masquerading.  This allows both your PCs to have LAN IP addresses, 
 (192.168.0.x), but both use the internet, (by having their IP address 
 'translated' into your ADSL IP address, and back).
 
 You may well also want some firewalling options, so enable at least:
 
 Networking options ---
   IP: Netfilter Configuration  ---
 Packet filtering [M]
 
 You then need some way of enabling NAT, (and possibly firewall).
 There are some graphical firewall setup programs, but I think it's 
 easier and faster to get it up and running with a simple pre-written script.
 
 I find this one satisfactory for home use:
 http://firewall.lutel.pl/
 
 Simply fill in your various interface names, and specify what ports you 
 want available to the internet and the LAN, then run it with ./firewall 
 start.  Note: you will need to have recompiled your kernel and the 
 modules, and rebooted, before this can do it's job.
 
 The last step is to set up your two PCs /internal/ interfaces.  For such 
 a small network, I would simply give your Linux PC the IP:
 
 192.168.0.254
 
 and your Win98 machine: 192.168.0.1

How do I do this? My PC seems to automatically retrieve its IP address.
Is it done through adsl-setup?

 x.x.x.254 is commonly used for a gateway machine on LAN, and this is 
 exactly what your Linux PC will be.
 
 You will also need to set your Win98 box's Default Gateway to 
 192.168.0.254, and it's DNS servers to whatever your ISP gave you.

Sounds horribly complex, but I'll try it. I'll let the people from my
ISP set it up using Windows first, so I'll know I have the hardware
connected right.
By the way - why is it specifically 192.168.0.x?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread MAL
Ohad Lutzky wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:01:12AM +0100, MAL wrote:

I'm afraid you can't connect a modem to a hub (in this circumstance) :)
If your ADSL modem only has an ethernet port, your linux box will need 
two network cards.  One to connect the PC to the hub, and one to connect 
the PC to the modem.  If the modem has a USB port, and it's one of the 
(relatively few) ADSL modems with a Linux driver, you could connect it 
via USB and thus avoid the need for a second network card.
No USB ports here... neither on the modem nor the computer.
Ok, so you either need a second network card, or use the dubious method 
of doing to accross a hub as described elsewhere in this thread :)

To actually get the second PC on the internet, your Linux PC will need 
to have the following enabled in the kernel:

Networking options ---
 IP: Netfilter Configuration  ---
   Connection tracking [M]
   IP tables support [M]
   Full NAT [M]
 MASQUERADE target support [M]


Can't see those. I can see Network packet filtering (replaces ipchains)
though. vanilla-sources-2.4.21.
Yes, my mistake.  If you enable 'Network packet filtering', the option I 
mentioned above will magically appear :)

The last step is to set up your two PCs /internal/ interfaces.  For such 
a small network, I would simply give your Linux PC the IP:

192.168.0.254

and your Win98 machine: 192.168.0.1
How do I do this? My PC seems to automatically retrieve its IP address.
Is it done through adsl-setup?
It's getting an external IP address from the modem via PPP.  This is 
correct, and I assume this is being assigned to your eth0 interface? 
You should set your _second_ network card's IP address to 192.168.0.254

See the Gentoo documentation on how to do this.

x.x.x.254 is commonly used for a gateway machine on LAN, and this is 
exactly what your Linux PC will be.

You will also need to set your Win98 box's Default Gateway to 
192.168.0.254, and it's DNS servers to whatever your ISP gave you.
Sounds horribly complex, but I'll try it. I'll let the people from my
ISP set it up using Windows first, so I'll know I have the hardware
connected right.
By the way - why is it specifically 192.168.0.x?
192.168.x.x is a range of IP addresses, reserved for LAN use.  That is, 
they are not valid on the internet.

There is also 172.16.x.x-172.31.x.x and 10.x.x.x , but these are for 
larger local networks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Zachary P. Landau
 I'm afraid you can't connect a modem to a hub (in this circumstance) :)
 If your ADSL modem only has an ethernet port, your linux box will need two 
 network cards.  One to connect the PC to the hub, and one to connect the 
 PC to the modem.  If the modem has a USB port, and it's one of the 
 (relatively few) ADSL modems with a Linux driver, you could connect it via 
 USB and thus avoid the need for a second network card.
 
 Wrong ;)
 i used this config for a while (before buying a second NIC on my gateway 
 ;p) :
 adsl model (ethernet) connected on hub, three pcs on th same hub (1 linux 
 gateway, 2 workstation under linux/win XP)

Actually, I had SNET DSL for a while, and we had the same setup. We
connected the dsl modem to the hub, and we could all connect at the same
time. We would each get our own IP and everything. SNET sure did a good
job setting up their network. Also, if we went to the webpage where it
reports how many hours you used that month, the cgi script would often
crash because we had more hours than there are in a month. 

Note that this is probably very rare :P

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[gentoo-user] libkrb4.so.2

2003-06-25 Thread MAL
Has anyone else had this dissapear on them?

emerge -u world wanted to downgrade:

mit-krb5-1.2.7-r2

to:

mit-krb5-1.2.7

and doing so has removed libkrb4.so.2, which programs such as mplayer use.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with scp

2003-06-25 Thread Zachary P. Landau
 The only problem I am having is with scp. I have openssh installed, and 
 can ssh into the box, but cannot copy files to the box with scp. When I 
 try, I get asked for my password (as expected), then the session just 
 sits there, doing nothing.

Make sure nothing in .bashrc creates any output. In fact, you might want
to try temporarily renaming the file. I have had this problem many times
and I think every time that was the problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with scp

2003-06-25 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 07:44 pm, Daniel Jaeggi wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:48:49PM +1000, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
   What command do you use to scp? (whole command line).
   
  
  $ scp xx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
  
 
 Have you tried inserting a full path like:
 
 $ scp xx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/paulcol/
 
 and seeing what happens?


No change. It still fails to copy, and never returns.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 12:16:52PM +0100, MAL wrote:
 Ok, so you either need a second network card, or use the dubious method 
 of doing to accross a hub as described elsewhere in this thread :)

I'll ask my ISP how to do this. I sure hope I can do it dubiously...
sounds easier :)

 Can't see those. I can see Network packet filtering (replaces ipchains)
 though. vanilla-sources-2.4.21.
 
 Yes, my mistake.  If you enable 'Network packet filtering', the option I 
 mentioned above will magically appear :)

Got it, thanks.

 How do I do this? My PC seems to automatically retrieve its IP address.
 Is it done through adsl-setup?
 
 It's getting an external IP address from the modem via PPP.  This is 
 correct, and I assume this is being assigned to your eth0 interface? 

Nope... it gets assigned to ppp0. eth0 doesn't seem to have an IP
address.

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:B4:B6:17:35  
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:68147 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:53293 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:17 txqueuelen:100 
  RX bytes:76868013 (73.3 Mb)  TX bytes:6387245 (6.0 Mb)
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe400

That's odd though... isn't it supposed to be a micro-LAN between the PC
and the modem, in such a way that I could telnet into the modem for
maintenance?

 You should set your _second_ network card's IP address to 192.168.0.254
 
 See the Gentoo documentation on how to do this.

Makes sense. And then the PCs can just see each other? If I set Samba
up here and configure my printer, the win98 box will be able to see it?

 192.168.x.x is a range of IP addresses, reserved for LAN use.  That is, 
 they are not valid on the internet.
 
 There is also 172.16.x.x-172.31.x.x and 10.x.x.x , but these are for 
 larger local networks.

I see. This also means, I guess, that my other box won't have an
external IP address (nor will it have a connection at all when this one
is off). That's how my old cable ISP worked... we had 10.x.x.x
addresses (which sucked if I wanted to have an FTP server for friends on
a different ISP).

Thanks for all of your help!

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Re: [gentoo-user] What do you like best on Gentoo?

2003-06-25 Thread Claes Wallin
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:44:47 -0700
Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of my
 big beefs with debian is you can only really install the latest version
 of the software, and you can't downgrade without having the older deb
 packages there already.  Gentoo you just emerge the version you want.  A
 *very* powerful (and overlooked) feature I think.

Hmm. apt-get install package=ve.rs.io-n always worked fine for me. And
Debian keeps old packages a little longer than the portage tree does.

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Re: [gentoo-user] libkrb4.so.2

2003-06-25 Thread Jesse Jacobs
Hello Mal,

Yes this was a prob for me too.

I eventually gave up and added krb4 to my use flags to build the lib.

HTH,
j

MAL said:
 Has anyone else had this dissapear on them?

 emerge -u world wanted to downgrade:

 mit-krb5-1.2.7-r2

 to:

 mit-krb5-1.2.7

 and doing so has removed libkrb4.so.2, which programs such as mplayer
 use.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What do you like best on Gentoo?

2003-06-25 Thread Jesse Jacobs
Hello Gentooers!

Sry to interject but I must say that I really like the fact that portage
cleans out a lot of the old ebuilds.
In fact I'd like to see more house keeping.

One possible suggestion would be the addition of a package
(portage-archives maybe ?) that extracts the old ebuilds to your portage
overlay,
hopefully maintaining categories.  Then pick what ever ya want.

This would help the gentoo rsync mirrors and still satisfy those that
crave the features/semantics of old. :)

Thanks and Happy Gentooing!(Isn't that a national holiday yet!?)
j


Claes Wallin said:
 On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:44:47 -0700
 Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of my
 big beefs with debian is you can only really install the latest
 version of the software, and you can't downgrade without having the
 older deb packages there already.  Gentoo you just emerge the version
 you want.  A *very* powerful (and overlooked) feature I think.

 Hmm. apt-get install package=ve.rs.io-n always worked fine for me. And
 Debian keeps old packages a little longer than the portage tree does.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla cyrillic fonts

2003-06-25 Thread Waleri Enns
Vano Beridze wrote:

 Hello
 I just installed Gentoo.
 I insatlled also Mozilla 1.3

 I emerged freefonts and sharefonts

 When I start Mozilla and go to Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts - Fonts
For Cyrillic
 Combo Boxes are grayed out with the message No fonts available for this
langugage

 What should I do? Without this I cannot use gentoo. I have to develop
pages with WinCP1251
 Encoding and instead of showing russian characters It shows some strange
signs.

Strange... I just checked and i dont have installed either freefonts nor
sharefonts, and i do have many fonts in Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts
- Fonts For Cyrillic

just an idea: do you have emerged xft?

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[gentoo-user] Getting XF86 to run on a C-180 box

2003-06-25 Thread Rod Smart
   Hello.

   I have a C-180 Visualize RISC system with a (GSC) A4070 video card 
with a A4747 daughter card.

   The system is happily running with Gentoo Linux, and the swap space 
hasn't even been touched...

   I would like to get this thing into doing something more than 
heating my bedroom, so I am wondering if anyone has a XF86Config file 
that I could get the video driver settings for the above card configuration.

   I have tried fbdev but even at Depth=8 I have not been able to get 
xfree running.

   I searched through the old mail archives but I couldn't find much 
more than the fbdev setup.

   When I do the  command line from one of the mail list messages i get 
the following.

vorlon portage # dmesg | grep stifb
fb0: stifb 1280x1024-32 frame buffer device, id: 2bcb015a, mmio: 0xf810
fb1: stifb 1280x1024-8 frame buffer device, id: 2d08c0a7, mmio: 0xfa10
   I'm not sure what this means, but I think the -8 and the -32 is 
the depth.

   The system RAM is fully populated with 768Megs

   If you require any more information, please just ask ;o)

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[gentoo-user] chechpassword error

2003-06-25 Thread Ryan Oberto
Hi all

I emerged qmail today and I got this error any ideas

Thanks ryan

rm -f tryspnam.o tryspnam
( ( ./compile tryslib.c  \
./load tryslib -ls ) /dev/null 21 \
 echo -ls || exit 0 )  s.lib
rm -f tryslib.o tryslib
( ( ./compile tryuserpw.c \
   ./load tryuserpw `cat s.lib` ) /dev/null 21 \
 echo \#define HASGETUSERPW 1 || exit 0 )  hasuserpw.h
rm -f tryuserpw.o tryuserpw
./compile checkpassword.c
./compile: line 3: exec: -O: invalid option
exec: usage: exec [-cl] [-a name] file [redirection ...]
make: *** [checkpassword.o] Error 2

!!! ERROR: net-mail/checkpassword-0.90-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 28, Exitcode 2
!!! Error in make



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Re: [gentoo-user] libkrb4.so.2

2003-06-25 Thread Luis Morales
Hello,

there is not necesary downgrade,  edit your /etc/make.conf and add this 
line into use flags: krb4

and recompile mit-krb5

LM

MAL wrote:

Has anyone else had this dissapear on them?

emerge -u world wanted to downgrade:

mit-krb5-1.2.7-r2

to:

mit-krb5-1.2.7

and doing so has removed libkrb4.so.2, which programs such as mplayer 
use.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 01:29 am, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
 I'm a total networking noob, but I'd like to set up a home network.
 My current PC (running Linux) is connected over ADSL using rp-pppoe.
 It has a printer as well, running on CUPS. My other PC, an old
 Packard Bell (bleh) P133 running (walking, rather) Win98. How would I
 set this up? The only home LAN setup I've ever seen is connecting the
 hub to the modem, and then connecting PCs to the hub. But my ADSL
 connection requires me to log in (rp-pppoe takes care of that).
 Also, will the two PCs see each other on a local network? Or will
 they have to communicate over the external network? If so, how will
 they be assigned different IPs?


Probably the most painless method to do this would be to purchase a 
router/hub or a router and a hub. The router takes care of the log in 
and  DHCP plus affords some firewall capability. Router setup is a snap 
Linksys for one comes basicly pre-configured. You access it from a 
browser and you really only need to enter user name and password, set 
your protocol and change the default password to access the router and 
you're good to go. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ibiblio mirror

2003-06-25 Thread Wayne Clement

quote who=Arnaud Launay
 Le Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 06:47:13AM -0400, Wayne Clement a écrit:
 has anyone else noticed that the ibiblio gentoo directory is empty?

 It's complete and uptodate, as far as I can see:
 ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/
 -rw-r--r--   1 adminadmin   806792 jun 22 15:30
 glibc-2.3.2-branch-update-20030621.patch.bz2
 -rw-r--r--   1 adminadmin   140324 jun 22 22:00
 patches-2.4.21-sparc-r1.tar.bz2
 -rw-r--r--   1 adminadmin   32 jun 23 07:00 timestamp.chk

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when i go through the gentoo web page for grtting gentoo the ibiblio link
it gives is

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http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/
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whitch present me with this

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Index of /pub/linux/distributions/gentoo

  NameLast modified   Size  Description

[DIR] Parent Directory07-Feb-2003 18:37  -
Apache/1.3.26 Server at distro.ibiblio.org Port 80
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the linkyou gave above works fine for me and i can get the install files
but i cant useing the link on the site, it's been that way for seveal days
i'am surpised nobody else mentioned it, i havent seen it mention on the
forums ether.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ibiblio mirror

2003-06-25 Thread Anders Hasselqvist
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Wayne Clement wrote:


 quote who=Arnaud Launay
  Le Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 06:47:13AM -0400, Wayne Clement a écrit:
  has anyone else noticed that the ibiblio gentoo directory is empty?
 
  It's complete and uptodate, as far as I can see:
  ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/
  -rw-r--r--   1 adminadmin   806792 jun 22 15:30
  glibc-2.3.2-branch-update-20030621.patch.bz2
  -rw-r--r--   1 adminadmin   140324 jun 22 22:00
  patches-2.4.21-sparc-r1.tar.bz2
  -rw-r--r--   1 adminadmin   32 jun 23 07:00 timestamp.chk
 

 the linkyou gave above works fine for me and i can get the install files
 but i cant useing the link on the site, it's been that way for seveal days
 i'am surpised nobody else mentioned it, i havent seen it mention on the
 forums ether.


I've been upgrading the machine at work recently. When doing emerge I
always had to change to download from ftp.ibiblio.org instead of
www.ibiblio.org. It didn't find the packages at www.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:07:14AM -0400, Ernie Schroder wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 June 2003 01:29 am, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
  I'm a total networking noob, but I'd like to set up a home network.
  My current PC (running Linux) is connected over ADSL using rp-pppoe.
  It has a printer as well, running on CUPS. My other PC, an old
  Packard Bell (bleh) P133 running (walking, rather) Win98. How would I
  set this up? The only home LAN setup I've ever seen is connecting the
  hub to the modem, and then connecting PCs to the hub. But my ADSL
  connection requires me to log in (rp-pppoe takes care of that).
  Also, will the two PCs see each other on a local network? Or will
  they have to communicate over the external network? If so, how will
  they be assigned different IPs?
 
 
 Probably the most painless method to do this would be to purchase a 
 router/hub or a router and a hub. The router takes care of the log in 
 and  DHCP plus affords some firewall capability. Router setup is a snap 
 Linksys for one comes basicly pre-configured. You access it from a 
 browser and you really only need to enter user name and password, set 
 your protocol and change the default password to access the router and 
 you're good to go. 

Sounds excellent! This is what I thought a router did, and then people
showed me a tiny little thing called a switch, and said that I was
talking about that... And now, a stream of questions:

Which of these are the same? Hub, Switch, Router (I'm guessing hub
and switch)

How does it all connect? Do I connect the router to the modem, and then
that to a hub/switch which all the ethernet cables go to? Or is it
something totally different?

Any particular problems with Linux? Doesn't sound like there should be,
but still.

If I set this up, I will basically only need to use dhcpcd here, and
have the other PC set to get its IPs automatically, right?

What kind of IPs will I get? Will it be possible to have external IPs,
so people can still reach my ftp server? Will I have to choose on of the
PCs to get an external IP, or will the router know which one needs it?
Will both computers even be able to use the same ports at the same time?

And last but not least: How much [more] will it cost?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with scp

2003-06-25 Thread Rex Walters
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:48:49PM +1000, Paul Colquhoun wrote:

  On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
  
  The only problem I am having is with scp. I have openssh installed, 
 and 
  can ssh into the box, but cannot copy files to the box with scp. When 
 I 
  try, I get asked for my password (as expected), then the session just 
  sits there, doing nothing.

[snip]

 $ scp xx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:

Please post the output of scp -v xx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

It's probably your shell trying to be interactive (are you using
csh/tcsh by any chance?).  Try temporarily renaming all shell
configuration files (~/.{cshrc,login,profile,bash_profile,bashrc).

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Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla cyrillic fonts

2003-06-25 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Vano Beridze wrote:
When I start Mozilla and go to Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts - Fonts 
For Cyrillic
Combo Boxes are grayed out with the message No fonts available for this 
langugage
Have you added new or required font paths to /etc/X11/XF86Config as well 
as /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref/unix.js?

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Re: [gentoo-user] openldap + tls problem

2003-06-25 Thread Aaron Matteson
Barry Kostjens became daring and sent these 1.4K bytes,
 On Monday 23 June 2003 16:38, Stephen Varga wrote:
 
 Yes, that pem file is really there.
 Can you tell me how you created your openldap.pem?

He is not asking you if the file is there, simply that if you actually
have the /etc/ directory in your root FS. Understand?
 
  Here is what is in my config:
 
  TLSCertificateFile  /etc/openldap/openldap.pem
  TLSCertificateKeyFile   /etc/openldap/openldap.pem
  TLSCACertificateFile/etc/openldap/openldap.pem
 
  openldap.pem was created using openssl.
 
  You really have /ect directory on your sytem?
 
  Steve
 
  On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 08:45, Barry Kostjens wrote:
   No, that's not a typo. This file really exists.
  
   I Tried to put the cacert.pem in other dir's and changed the config, but
   no go.
  
   When i Look in the o'reilly book, they don't even enter this line in the
   config. Tried that too, but doesn't work.
  
   On Monday 23 June 2003 14:11, Stephen Varga wrote:
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 04:16, Barry Kostjens wrote:
  daemon_init: 1 listeners opened
  slapd init: initiated server.
  TLS: could not load verify locations
 (file:`/ect/ssl/demoCA/cacert.pem',dir:`').
   
  ^^^ this should probably be 'etc'
   
It looks like you have a typo in your config file.
   
  TLS: error:02001002:system library:fopen:No such file or directory
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo/m68k

2003-06-25 Thread Jonathan Morton
Another show stopper is the 68LC40's (or was it 680LC40?). They not 
only
didn't have an FPU but some were b0rked and you couldn't use FPU 
emulation on
them. A lot of the lower end '040 based Macs used them. Not sure about 
other
680x0 based systems.
The 68LC040 is a problem, but the beauty of Gentoo is that you can 
compile everything using a FP math library in place of the hardware 
FPU instructions, if you need to.  Software FP math is also much faster 
than an emulated hardware FPU, on most hardware, so this is of 
benefit to all FPU-less machines, not just the b0rked ones.

Don't ask me about the specifics of this, it's something I've never had 
to do under Linux.  It does work just fine using the regular MacOS 
compilers - there weren't all that many 68k Macs that came with FPUs as 
standard, so almost all applications were compiled with software FP 
math - and these worked just fine on the 'LC040.

FWIW, I have access to a couple of old Macs with the 68LC040 in them, 
but it might be hard to get them in a working state (from a hardware 
perspective, those machines have been *abused*, and they are also very 
short of RAM and disk space).  I also have a full 68040 and a 
68030/68881 combo, which work properly, though the latter is also 
exceedingly short of RAM and disk.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Gëzim

--- MAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ohad Lutzky wrote:
  I'm a total networking noob, but I'd like to set
 up a home network. My
  current PC (running Linux) is connected over ADSL
 using rp-pppoe. It has
  a printer as well, running on CUPS. My other PC,
 an old Packard Bell
  (bleh) P133 running (walking, rather) Win98. How
 would I set this up?
  The only home LAN setup I've ever seen is
 connecting the hub to the
  modem, and then connecting PCs to the hub. But my
 ADSL connection
  requires me to log in (rp-pppoe takes care of
 that). Also, will the
  two PCs see each other on a local network? Or
 will they have to
  communicate over the external network? If so, how
 will they be assigned
  different IPs?
 
 I'm afraid you can't connect a modem to a hub (in
 this circumstance) :)
 If your ADSL modem only has an ethernet port, your
 linux box will need 
 two network cards.  One to connect the PC to the
 hub, and one to connect 
 the PC to the modem.  If the modem has a USB port,
 and it's one of the 
 (relatively few) ADSL modems with a Linux driver,
 you could connect it 
 via USB and thus avoid the need for a second network
 card.
 
 To actually get the second PC on the internet, your
 Linux PC will need 
 to have the following enabled in the kernel:
 
 Networking options ---
IP: Netfilter Configuration  ---
  Connection tracking [M]
  IP tables support [M]
  Full NAT [M]
MASQUERADE target support [M]
 
 Your Linux machine needs the above options to
 perform NAT.. specifically 
 IP masquerading.  This allows both your PCs to have
 LAN IP addresses, 
 (192.168.0.x), but both use the internet, (by having
 their IP address 
 'translated' into your ADSL IP address, and back).
 
 You may well also want some firewalling options, so
 enable at least:
 
 Networking options ---
IP: Netfilter Configuration  ---
  Packet filtering [M]


Do I need these and the above options compiled into
the kernel even if I'am gonna use a router instead of
a hub? (I won't need 2 network cards in one PC, I
don't think)
 
 
 All these can be staticly compiled instead of
 modules.
 
 
 You then need some way of enabling NAT, (and
 possibly firewall).
 There are some graphical firewall setup programs,
 but I think it's 
 easier and faster to get it up and running with a
 simple pre-written script.
 
 I find this one satisfactory for home use:
 http://firewall.lutel.pl/
 
 Simply fill in your various interface names, and
 specify what ports you 
 want available to the internet and the LAN, then run
 it with ./firewall 
 start.  Note: you will need to have recompiled your
 kernel and the 
 modules, and rebooted, before this can do it's job.
 
 The last step is to set up your two PCs /internal/
 interfaces.  For such 
 a small network, I would simply give your Linux PC
 the IP:
 
 192.168.0.254
 
 and your Win98 machine: 192.168.0.1
 
 x.x.x.254 is commonly used for a gateway machine on
 LAN, and this is 
 exactly what your Linux PC will be.
 
 You will also need to set your Win98 box's Default
 Gateway to 
 192.168.0.254, and it's DNS servers to whatever your
 ISP gave you.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Jan Drugowitsch
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 12:36, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 12:16:52PM +0100, MAL wrote:
  Ok, so you either need a second network card, or use the dubious method
  of doing to accross a hub as described elsewhere in this thread :)

 I'll ask my ISP how to do this. I sure hope I can do it dubiously...
 sounds easier :)

I would read the ISP's policy before asking about connecting a network to your 
ADSL connection. Many of the ISP's I know do not allow that. Although asking 
itsself wouldn't do any bad they could get aware of the fact that you are 
trying to do that. That would not be worrying either if I wouldn't have read 
about a method about half a year ago which describes a method of how to 
detect such a network by tracing IDs of TCP packages. This could put you on 
the ISP's watchlist and this wouldn't be a good thing. So before contacting 
the ISP: Read their policy!

HTH,
Jan


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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Gëzim

--- Ohad Lutzky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:07:14AM -0400, Ernie
 Schroder wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 June 2003 01:29 am, Ohad Lutzky
 wrote:
   I'm a total networking noob, but I'd like to set
 up a home network.
   My current PC (running Linux) is connected over
 ADSL using rp-pppoe.
   It has a printer as well, running on CUPS. My
 other PC, an old
   Packard Bell (bleh) P133 running (walking,
 rather) Win98. How would I
   set this up? The only home LAN setup I've ever
 seen is connecting the
   hub to the modem, and then connecting PCs to the
 hub. But my ADSL
   connection requires me to log in (rp-pppoe
 takes care of that).
   Also, will the two PCs see each other on a
 local network? Or will
   they have to communicate over the external
 network? If so, how will
   they be assigned different IPs?
  
  
  Probably the most painless method to do this would
 be to purchase a 
  router/hub or a router and a hub. The router takes
 care of the log in 
  and  DHCP plus affords some firewall capability.
 Router setup is a snap 
  Linksys for one comes basicly pre-configured. You
 access it from a 
  browser and you really only need to enter user
 name and password, set 
  your protocol and change the default password to
 access the router and 
  you're good to go. 
 
 Sounds excellent! This is what I thought a router
 did, and then people
 showed me a tiny little thing called a switch, and
 said that I was
 talking about that... And now, a stream of
 questions:
 
 Which of these are the same? Hub, Switch,
 Router (I'm guessing hub
 and switch)
 
 How does it all connect? Do I connect the router to
 the modem, and then
 that to a hub/switch which all the ethernet cables
 go to? Or is it
 something totally different?
 
 Any particular problems with Linux? Doesn't sound
 like there should be,
 but still.
 
 If I set this up, I will basically only need to use
 dhcpcd here, and
 have the other PC set to get its IPs automatically,
 right?
 
 What kind of IPs will I get? Will it be possible to
 have external IPs,
 so people can still reach my ftp server? Will I have
 to choose on of the
 PCs to get an external IP, or will the router know
 which one needs it?
 Will both computers even be able to use the same
 ports at the same time?
 
 And last but not least: How much [more] will it
 cost?

I got a rounter for $29.95 (Canadian)!! It's not
expensieve :)

Also to learn more about how this stuffworks go to:
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/router.htm
and when you get there if you wanna know about
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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:14:33PM +0100, Jan Drugowitsch wrote:
Content-Description: signed data
 On Wednesday 25 June 2003 12:36, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 12:16:52PM +0100, MAL wrote:
   Ok, so you either need a second network card, or use the dubious method
   of doing to accross a hub as described elsewhere in this thread :)
 
  I'll ask my ISP how to do this. I sure hope I can do it dubiously...
  sounds easier :)
 
 I would read the ISP's policy before asking about connecting a network to your 
 ADSL connection. Many of the ISP's I know do not allow that. Although asking 
 itsself wouldn't do any bad they could get aware of the fact that you are 
 trying to do that. That would not be worrying either if I wouldn't have read 
 about a method about half a year ago which describes a method of how to 
 detect such a network by tracing IDs of TCP packages. This could put you on 
 the ISP's watchlist and this wouldn't be a good thing. So before contacting 
 the ISP: Read their policy!

It's OK... actually, they're the ones who offered it. I'm just looking
for some knowledge about it first.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Problem with scp

2003-06-25 Thread RVick
I have run into certain issues with scp, where the remote server will only
accept scp -v -2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] connections, because the remote server is
forcing protocol 2 only connections.  Have you tried that?

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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with scp


On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:48:49PM +1000, Paul Colquhoun wrote:

  On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
  
  The only problem I am having is with scp. I have openssh installed, 
 and 
  can ssh into the box, but cannot copy files to the box with scp. When 
 I 
  try, I get asked for my password (as expected), then the session just 
  sits there, doing nothing.

[snip]

 $ scp xx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:

Please post the output of scp -v xx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

It's probably your shell trying to be interactive (are you using
csh/tcsh by any chance?).  Try temporarily renaming all shell
configuration files (~/.{cshrc,login,profile,bash_profile,bashrc).

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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: USB pen drives?

2003-06-25 Thread Richard Revis
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:40:30 -0400, Ernie Schroder wrote:

 # mount /mnt/flash returns:

Just curious, but what does the line in your fstab look like?

Mine won't let me mount it as a user, although the permissions and flags
(ie owner in fstab etc) are the same as the CD rom which works fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Rev. Jeffrey Paul
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Jan Drugowitsch wrote:

 I would read the ISP's policy before asking about connecting a network to your
 ADSL connection. Many of the ISP's I know do not allow that. Although asking
 itsself wouldn't do any bad they could get aware of the fact that you are
 trying to do that. That would not be worrying either if I wouldn't have read
 about a method about half a year ago which describes a method of how to
 detect such a network by tracing IDs of TCP packages. This could put you on
 the ISP's watchlist and this wouldn't be a good thing. So before contacting
 the ISP: Read their policy!

Furthermore, using NAT on a public routable IP in the state of Michigan is
a felony... I don't know about other states, but I wouldn't be suprised if
it's that way elsewhere too.


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[gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger, gnome :-/

2003-06-25 Thread Norberto BENSA
Do I *really* need all this just for ymessenger? Is there any other IM app 
that can handle Yahoo IM protocol?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ USE=-gnome sudo emerge -pv ymessenger

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/ORBit-0.5.17  -nls
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2  -doc -nls -kde
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-print-0.35-r3  -nls -tetex
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6  -nls -bonobo
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-common-1.2.4-r3
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/oaf-0.6.10  -nls
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gconf-1.0.8-r5  -nls
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.2.1
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r3  +ssl -nls
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/gal-0.24  -nls -doc
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/bonobo-1.0.22  -nls
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/control-center-1.4.0.5-r1  -nls
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libghttp-1.0.9-r3
[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/gtkhtml-1.1.10  -nls -gnome
[ebuild   R  ] net-im/ymessenger-0.99.19.1-r1  -kde -gnome


Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger, gnome :-/

2003-06-25 Thread Chris Bare
 
 Do I *really* need all this just for ymessenger? Is there any other IM app=
 =20
 that can handle Yahoo IM protocol?
 

I've read that gaim can, but I couldn't see how in the version I looked at.
It probably has similar requirements.
I've also used one called gyach. I don't know if it has an ebuild.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger, gnome :-/

2003-06-25 Thread Andrew Wrolstad
Try GAIM.

Not sure of it's dependacies

 Do I *really* need all this just for ymessenger? Is there any other IM app
 that can handle Yahoo IM protocol?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ USE=-gnome sudo emerge -pv ymessenger

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/ORBit-0.5.17  -nls
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2  -doc -nls -kde
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-print-0.35-r3  -nls -tetex
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6  -nls -bonobo
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-common-1.2.4-r3
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/oaf-0.6.10  -nls
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gconf-1.0.8-r5  -nls
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.2.1
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r3  +ssl -nls
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/gal-0.24  -nls -doc
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/bonobo-1.0.22  -nls
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/control-center-1.4.0.5-r1  -nls
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libghttp-1.0.9-r3
 [ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/gtkhtml-1.1.10  -nls -gnome
 [ebuild   R  ] net-im/ymessenger-0.99.19.1-r1  -kde -gnome


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Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger, gnome :-/

2003-06-25 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Norberto BENSA wrote:
Do I *really* need all this just for ymessenger? Is there any other IM app 
that can handle Yahoo IM protocol?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger, gnome :-/

2003-06-25 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:31:47AM -0300, Norberto BENSA wrote:
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 Do I *really* need all this just for ymessenger? Is there any other IM app 
 that can handle Yahoo IM protocol?

I think Kopete has a Y!IM plugin. Also: I'm not sure, but I think Jabber
has gateways to Y!IM, so you can use whatever Jabber client you like
(Psi for KDE).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger, gnome :-/

2003-06-25 Thread Ian Truelsen
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:33:28 +0300
Ohad Lutzky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:31:47AM -0300, Norberto BENSA wrote:
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  Do I *really* need all this just for ymessenger? Is there any other
  IM app that can handle Yahoo IM protocol?
 
Gaim will allow you to use the yahoo protocol. You can install it with
-gnome and it will cut down on the dependencies.

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[gentoo-user] gst-plugins compile problem

2003-06-25 Thread R'twick Niceorgaw
Hi all,

I'm getting problem in compiling gst-plugins. Compile error is as follows

===
grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la: No such file or 
directory
/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la: 
No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la' is not a 
valid libtool archive
make[4]: *** [libgstarts.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gst-plugins-
0.6.1/work/gst-plugins-0.6.1/ext/arts'
make[3]: *** [all] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gst-plugins-
0.6.1/work/gst-plugins-0.6.1/ext/arts'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gst-plugins-
0.6.1/work/gst-plugins-0.6.1/ext'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gst-plugins-
0.6.1/work/gst-plugins-0.6.1'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: media-libs/gst-plugins-0.6.1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 151, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)

===

I have re compiled gcc 3.2.2. Here's my CHOST and CFLAGS

CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe

and libstdc++.la is in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la

I have no idea why it is looking for it in i586 dir. 

Any one faced this problem or have a soln ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 08:27:34AM -0700, Gzim Hoxha wrote:

  And last but not least: How much [more] will it
  cost?
 
 I got a rounter for $29.95 (Canadian)!! It's not
 expensieve :)

That really sounds cheap. Was it a linksys? If not, what interface do
you use to configure it? (Please say web, I love web interfaces! :) )

 Also to learn more about how this stuffworks go to:
 http://computer.howstuffworks.com/router.htm
 and when you get there if you wanna know about
 switches just search for them; is a great site ;)

It certainly is. Thanks for the tip! I've never thought of looking
there.

Here's what I understand so far: In the setup I've seen, where two PCs
are connected over a switch to a modem, it isn't really a network -
the PCs can only talk to the modem one at a time, and it works as if the
PC was connected directly. Not good for my purpose.
However, if you stick a router between the switch and the modem (or get
a router that has a builtin switch), you basically have a simple
network, in which the computers can communicate with each other
directly, and can talk to the modem (indirectly) at the same time.
That still leaves me with some interal/external IP questions:

I have an FTP server running on this box, and I'd still like people
outside to be able to reach it. Will outside computers still be able to
communicate directly with mine? How will they distinguish between them?

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[gentoo-user] I would like to understand FEATURES=sandbox

2003-06-25 Thread Robert Young
Is there a link that explains sandboxing in gentoo?


If not, can someone tell me know if I am correctly understanding the
usrpriv and the sandbox feature?


I have created a standard user testing: that is also a member of the
(portage,adm,and sys) groups.

If I have
FEATURES=usrpriv sandbox 

in /etc/make.conf

does this mean that if I type

su testing -

emerge planeshift

that planeshift will be installed only for user testing. No other user
will be able to access the install?


If this is true
can I then type

su -

emerge planeshift

and I will have one local install for testing and one for everyone else
(possibly the same version)


If this is not what will happen can this be accomplished with portage?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger, gnome :-/

2003-06-25 Thread Ralph F. De Witt
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   Do I *really* need all this just for ymessenger? Is there any other
   IM app that can handle Yahoo IM protocol?

 Gaim will allow you to use the yahoo protocol. You can install it with
 -gnome and it will cut down on the dependencies.
Norberto:
As previously discussed I believe the Gaim client is the best to use now for 
Yahoo IM. Kopete does not have a Yahoo Im pulgin yet, should be available by 
Dec., one of the Jabber clients is another option, as well as everybuddy. 
Hope this helps somewhat.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Threaded email client for gentoo-user?

2003-06-25 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Spundun Bhatt wrote:

Another thing mentioned last time in a similar thread was top-posting. 
While I have harrassed the online community a lot with my top posted 
mails, I am trying to change that, is there any guidelines available for 
this? Sometimes I feel that if my message is starting on the second page 
of the mail, no-one is going to read it.

That is why you do inline posting, delete what you aren't replying to and 
just reply to the parts as you get to them.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Threaded email client for gentoo-user?

2003-06-25 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Peter McCracken wrote:

And perhaps someone could answer why bottom-posting is better, anyway? 
I'll obey it, if that's etiquette.  But I would have thought top posts
were easier to read.

I don't think bottom posting is the best way.  In-Line posting is most 
often mentioned as the way to go.  You reply to what you are reading right 
after it is written.  This is good for multiple reasons.  You can jump 
into the conversation at anytime and know what is going on, Mailing list 
web archives are much easier to get information out of, and when inline 
posting you usually are better about trimming messages, which saves 
bandwidth.  Figure if you trim 10k worth of a message off it doesn't sound 
like much, but you get a mailing list with 1000 members, you have saved 
the mailing list provider 10MB worth of transfer for that one message.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Threaded email client for gentoo-user?

2003-06-25 Thread Brenden Walker
 On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Peter McCracken wrote:
 
 And perhaps someone could answer why bottom-posting is 
 better, anyway?
 I'll obey it, if that's etiquette.  But I would have thought 
 top posts
 were easier to read.
 
 I don't think bottom posting is the best way.  In-Line 
 posting is most 
 often mentioned as the way to go.  You reply to what you are 
 reading right 

Just thought I'd add my 2cents worth (inline of course, well bottom as I've
cut everything else off).  I think there is a rare reason to top post, and
usually not in this type of venue..  Sometimes you may have a thought that
is slightly related but doesn't fit totally with the thread (perhaps you've
skewed off into lala land a bit) but still somewhat tenously related.

I have in the past top posted, as well as inline when I couldn't find an
appropriate place to put the comment.  But I only ever do that when on
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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Norberto BENSA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${GXzim}
Wednesday 25 June 2003 12:27 pm

 [snipped extreneky big and unnecessary quoted text]

 I got a rounter for $29.95 (Canadian)!! It's not
 expensieve :)

 Also to learn more about how this stuffworks go to:
 http://computer.howstuffworks.com/router.htm
 and when you get there if you wanna know about
 switches just search for them; is a great site ;)


GXzim, I've trimmed almost 10x the size of your reply. Could you please only 
quote the relevant part of the email? Thanks.


Regards,
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[gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread William Hubbs
Hi all,

I am running gentoo with exim as my mta.  I have mutt configured to read either local 
email or email from my isp (connecting to their pop3 server).

I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from my linux box, they 
bounce it and tell me that they will not receive mail from my ipaddress because it is 
a dynamic/residential address.  I guess they are attempting to block spam.

I looked in the mutt manual to see if it is possible to configure mutt to send mail 
through my isp's smtp server, but I didn't come up with anything.

Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde/gnome won't start with xfree 4.3.0-r3

2003-06-25 Thread Kees Bergwerf

 Try to start kde without the kdm or xdm, maybe it just works for now.

Please tell me how.
startx works, but startx kde does not start kde



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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread Jayson Garrell
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 11:05, William Hubbs wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am running gentoo with exim as my mta.  I have mutt configured to read either 
 local email or email from my isp (connecting to their pop3 server).
 
 I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from my linux box, they 
 bounce it and tell me that they will not receive mail from my ipaddress because it 
 is a dynamic/residential address.  I guess they are attempting to block spam.
 
 I looked in the mutt manual to see if it is possible to configure mutt to send mail 
 through my isp's smtp server, but I didn't come up with anything.
 
 Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?
 
Ya I have seen this also, If I remember correctly AOL is one of the
first to do this. I think that the anwser to your problem is to have
exim send the mail through your isp Exim calls it satellite email, I
think.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread Juan Ángel
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Hi,
you could configure your exim to relay on your ISP MTA. In the exim doc there 
is great help to do so (and of course googlin')
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde/gnome won't start with xfree 4.3.0-r3

2003-06-25 Thread Jamie Dobbs
In your home directory ( cd ~) execute the command:

echo startkde  .xinitrc (this will make X start KDE by default)

Then startx and you should have KDE up and running ... assuming that it
is installed.

On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 06:10, Kees Bergwerf wrote:
  Try to start kde without the kdm or xdm, maybe it just works for now.
 
 Please tell me how.
 startx works, but startx kde does not start kde
 
 
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread Mark Knecht


 -Original Message-
 From: William Hubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 11:06 AM
 To: Gentoo Users
 Subject: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box


 Hi all,

 I am running gentoo with exim as my mta.  I have mutt configured
 to read either local email or email from my isp (connecting to
 their pop3 server).

 I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from
 my linux box, they bounce it and tell me that they will not
 receive mail from my ipaddress because it is a
 dynamic/residential address.  I guess they are attempting to block spam.

 I looked in the mutt manual to see if it is possible to configure
 mutt to send mail through my isp's smtp server, but I didn't come
 up with anything.

 Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?

 Thanks,

 William


Hi,
   My contract with first ATT and now Comcast says I cannot run any form of
a server from my home location. To enforce this they stop certain forms of
traffic, email and http on port 1080. Pretty standard problem as far as I
know. They don't stop http on other ports, and they don't stop ftp or ssh.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread wayne


Let me guess,  the ISP is AOL ???  You might want to try and find a 
forwarding/relaying server to send your mail thru that has a static ip.  I have 
seen this even on boxes that have static ip's.  

Quoting William Hubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi all,
 
 I am running gentoo with exim as my mta.  I have mutt configured to read
 either local email or email from my isp (connecting to their pop3
 server).
 
 I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from my linux
 box, they bounce it and tell me that they will not receive mail from my
 ipaddress because it is a dynamic/residential address.  I guess they are
 attempting to block spam.
 
 I looked in the mutt manual to see if it is possible to configure mutt
 to send mail through my isp's smtp server, but I didn't come up with
 anything.
 
 Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?
 
 Thanks,
 
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[gentoo-user] slow kde3.1.2

2003-06-25 Thread Svein Harald Soleim
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Hi I am having problem with kde. At start it worked fine, but recently it have 
taken forever to start it, and when it start all programs are slow. They work 
fine in xterm so It can't be XFree86. I even tried to compile kde from 
scratch again. But nothing.
Anyone know what it could be?

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:16:07PM +0100, MAL wrote:

 On your router, you will be able to point certain ports to certain 
 machines on the LAN.
 Unless your router has some clever programs installed on it, people will 
 need to use active FTP to connect to your server, (ie. not passive ftp). 
  All you need to do is forward port 21 on the router, to port 21 on 
 your PC.
 
 Note: you will need to get a router that can do NAT.

NAT... that term is new to me, but I've seen it on VMWare. I'm guessing
that it means Network Address Translation. I can see that the Linksys
routers can do it. So that basically means that on the internet, only
the router will be seen, but it'll look as if it's running an FTP
server? And why will this have to be active FTP? If the port is
forwarded directly, won't it work just like it used to?
And what of port 80, and the other regular-use ports? Surely I'll want
several machines using those at the same time... how will that work?

Sorry I'm being so annoying... I hate it when I do something with my
computer that I don't understand 100%.

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[gentoo-user] How to cmpile sylpheed-claws

2003-06-25 Thread Meka[ni]
emerge -kb sylpheed-claws says:

 Source unpacked.
spell
ssl
crypt
nls
--disable-gdk-pixbuf --disable-imlib --enable-aspell --enable-openssl --enable-gpgme
--disable-dillo-viewer-plugin --disable-clamav-plugin configure: WARNING: If you 
wanted to
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Re: [gentoo-user] cd-burning

2003-06-25 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Hello all,
Le mercredi 25 juin à 10 h. 54, Peter Ruskin a écrit notamment:
 On Wednesday 25 Jun 2003 06:26, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:

 
 You need to restart devfsd for the changes to /etc/devfs.conf to take 
 effect.  I did that by rebooting :-)
I have made a lot of rebooting lately...
 
 $ ll /dev/sr0
 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   31 2003-06-24 21:09 /dev/sr0 - 
 scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd
 
 You could try (as root):
 ln -s /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd /dev/sr0
I did that , and:

bornier% ls -l /dev/sr0
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   36 2003-06-25 12:57 /dev/sr0 - 
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd
bornier% mount /mnt/cdrom
mount : le périphérique spécial /dev/sr0 n'existe pas.

then as root:

bornier% su
Password:
bash-2.05b# mount /mnt/cdrom
mount : le périphérique spécial /dev/sr0 n'existe pas.

Why not try this:

bash-2.05b#cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 2.0 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.
cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
bash-2.05b#

and again:
bash-2.05b# ls -l /dev/sr0
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   36 2003-06-25 12:57 /dev/sr0 - 
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd
bash-2.05b#

Isn't this fantastic???
I just noticed the following lines in dmesg:

SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2

Would there be something there?
Peter (thanks!) and everybody else, I need some help!!
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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, William Hubbs wrote:

I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from my linux 
box, they bounce it and tell me that they will not receive mail from my 
ipaddress because it is a dynamic/residential address.  I guess they are 
attempting to block spam.

This is getting more and more common.  It used to be called the MAPS DUL 
(Dial Up List) and ISP's would block mail from machines that were in those 
lsits.

Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?

Yes, I've noticed that AOL and Earthlink were either talking about doing 
it, or are doing in.  When I heard they were talking about it I configured 
sendmail to allow me to get around the problem.

I still wanted sendmail to be able to send directly to servers that I was 
sending too and not go through the Road Runner Mail servers (They can be 
overloaded at times and I get faster e-mail service to use my own outgoing 
server), while sending messages to those 2 domains through the roadrunner 
servers transparently.

In Sendmail this was an easy configuration:

First I made sure my sendmail.mc file had the following:

FEATURE(`mailertable', `hash /etc/mail/mailertable')dnl

to enable the mailertable in sendmail.

Then I created a /etc/mail/mailertable file with the following 2 lines:


aol.com smtp:mail.rochester.rr.com
earthlink.com   smtp:mail.rochester.rr.com


(You would of course use your ISP's mail server after the smtp:)


Now you create the mailertable database:

makemap hash mailertable mailertable

Then recreate your /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file from the mc file:

m4 /etc/mail/sendmail.mc  /etc/mail/sendmail.cf

then restart sendmail and any messages going to aol.com or earthlink.com 
will now go through your ISP mail server, while any other messages will go 
directly to their destination.


HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] cd-burning

2003-06-25 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Wednesday 25 Jun 2003 19:49, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
snip

 I have made a lot of rebooting lately...
snip

 bornier% ls -l /dev/sr0
 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   36 2003-06-25 12:57 /dev/sr0
 - /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd bornier% mount /mnt/cdrom
 mount : le priphrique spcial /dev/sr0 n'existe pas.

That means that the device file /dev/sr0 exists but your computer 
doesn't know what to do with it.

As root, do...
lsmod
...and look for ide-cd, sr_mod and cdrom in the output.  If any of those 
aren't there, do modprobe sr_mod for example.  Make sure that ide-cd, 
sr_mod and cdrom are added to /etc/modules.autoload.

Things to look for in dmesg:
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
hdd: attached ide-scsi driver.
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
  Vendor: PIONEER   Model: DVD-RW  DVR-105   Rev: 1.30
  Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02

 I just noticed the following lines in dmesg:

 SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
 kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2

My guess is that one or more of those modules I mentioned above are 
missing here.

 Peter (thanks!) and everybody else, I need some help!!

You're welcome Jean.  Hope this helps.

Peter
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[gentoo-user] Distcc and non-ebuild compiling

2003-06-25 Thread Shane Hickey
Howdy all,
I'm currently using (and loving) distcc.  I know how to use distcc for
compiling during the emerge process.  But, I'd also like to use it for
kernel compiling and for compiling the rare package that doesn't have an
ebuild.  I read the instructions and put /usr/lib/distcc/bin at the
beginning of my path.  However, I'm getting these errors.

distcc[15595] (dcc_get_hostlist) Warning: no hostlist is set; can't
distribute work distcc[15595] (dcc_build_somewhere) Warning: failed to
distribute, running locally instead

Does anyone know where you are supposed to set this hostlist?  I have
DISTCC_HOSTS set in my make.conf, but I don't think that is the same
thing.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Distcc and non-ebuild compiling

2003-06-25 Thread Larry Meadors
Hey Shane!

Did you try setting DISTCC_HOSTS in /etc/profile?

Larry

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/25/03 1:39 PM 
Does anyone know where you are supposed to set this hostlist?  I have
DISTCC_HOSTS set in my make.conf, but I don't think that is the same
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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 11:05, William Hubbs wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am running gentoo with exim as my mta.  I have mutt configured to read
 either local email or email from my isp (connecting to their pop3 server).

 I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from my linux
 box, they bounce it and tell me that they will not receive mail from my
 ipaddress because it is a dynamic/residential address.  I guess they are
 attempting to block spam.

 I looked in the mutt manual to see if it is possible to configure mutt to
 send mail through my isp's smtp server, but I didn't come up with anything.

 Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?

 Thanks,

 William


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This may not be an option for you, but it is what I have done.  I have 
upgraded my account to a business class -- Yes, it is about $150/month more 
for me (Cox).  It is well worth it, though: no blocked ports, business class 
IPs, static IPs, custom reverse DNS lookups for my IPs, etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I would like to understand FEATURES=sandbox

2003-06-25 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 09:52, Robert Young wrote:
 Is there a link that explains sandboxing in gentoo?

I don't know, sorry.

 If not, can someone tell me know if I am correctly understanding the
 usrpriv and the sandbox feature?

Sandbox fixes up permissions, users, and groups for you.  It's a good thing.

 that planeshift will be installed only for user testing. No other user
 will be able to access the install?

No.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 12:51 pm, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 08:27:34AM -0700, Gzim Hoxha wrote:
   And last but not least: How much [more] will it
   cost?
 
  I got a rounter for $29.95 (Canadian)!! It's not
  expensieve :)

 That really sounds cheap. Was it a linksys? If not, what interface do
 you use to configure it? (Please say web, I love web interfaces! :) )

  Also to learn more about how this stuffworks go to:
  http://computer.howstuffworks.com/router.htm
  and when you get there if you wanna know about
  switches just search for them; is a great site ;)

 It certainly is. Thanks for the tip! I've never thought of looking
 there.

 Here's what I understand so far: In the setup I've seen, where two
 PCs are connected over a switch to a modem, it isn't really a
 network - the PCs can only talk to the modem one at a time, and it
 works as if the PC was connected directly. Not good for my purpose.
 However, if you stick a router between the switch and the modem (or
 get a router that has a builtin switch), you basically have a simple
 network, in which the computers can communicate with each other
 directly, and can talk to the modem (indirectly) at the same time.
 That still leaves me with some interal/external IP questions:

 I have an FTP server running on this box, and I'd still like people
 outside to be able to reach it. Will outside computers still be able
 to communicate directly with mine? How will they distinguish between
 them?


I run a linsys here and it is a web interface to administer it. Under 
advanced settings there is a page for port forwarding. You can upen 
her up for FTP, SSH web server or what ever you like. The problem is, 
you'll need to use static IP's within your network to keep the FTP 
server enabled. This isn't a big hastle but requires you to RTFM.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Distcc and non-ebuild compiling

2003-06-25 Thread Shane Hickey
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:44:09 -0600
Larry Meadors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Shane!
 
 Did you try setting DISTCC_HOSTS in /etc/profile?

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle.  That's all there was to it.  Of course
I'd get the right answer from a guy in my office... sheesh.  Thanks
Larry.

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RE: [gentoo-user] 3 TB ATA RAID server

2003-06-25 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
Hi ...

Just a question about the RAID cards you are using. Who makes them? Are
they supported under Gentoo Linux? I have just brought a ITE RAID card
and cannot get the driver to compile - so I have 2 x 120GB HDs sat idle
at the moment :(

TIA

On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 18:27, Patrick Nehls wrote:
 You won't get much/any performance increase striping the RAIDs in Linux. The
 amount of data that the RAID5 will need, especially with 2, 8 drive arrays
 will absolutely swamp your PCI bus already. If you are doing gigabit
 transfers on top of this your PCI bus will be hit even harder.
 
 With 8MB files you probably want a larger stripe size for performance
 reasons but the 3ware cards don't have much of a selection in that area (we
 use a 7500-8 at work for a 1.4TB array of 200GB Western Digitals).
 
 I'm not too familiar with the ins and outs of filesystem performance in
 Linux but I'd choose a journaling one just for the extra reliability.
 Neither Samba nor NFS add too much overhead to file transfers imho so either
 should work for your case. However if you have a Win2k client I'd just run
 Samba since the Windows box needs extra software to do NFS. If the IRIX box
 doesn't have samba then it may be easiest to run both on the server.
 
 3ware recommends sticking the card into a 64bit PCI slot for best
 performance. We're using it in a 32bit slot on a standard Intel 845G P4
 motherboard and haven't had any major performance issues though the data is
 not heavily used (mostly a huge live backup server). If that Aopen board has
 64 bit PCI slots, definitely use them. If it doesn't, with 2 large RAID
 arrays in one machine, you should consider the extra expense of a new
 motherboard with 64 bit PCI, processor, and RAM. 
 
 What case are you planning on putting this in? You can find some 3-4U
 rackmout cases with 16 hot swappable IDE drive bays but they aren't cheap.
 If you have a lower budget maybe you are planning on building one? You will
 need some beefy power supplies for 16+ drives.
 
 Finally, this isn't necessarily important for you, but many of the new Intel
 865PE and 875P based P4 motherboards have onboard gigabit LAN that uses a
 new bus to offload all LAN traffic from the overburdened PCI bus. In your
 case, this would likely give you a good performance boost. So ideally I'd
 grab an 865PE or 875P motherboard with the CSA Lan and 64bit PCI slots (if
 it exists). Er though I haven't checked to see if the kernel supports these
 LAN cards.
 
 Please email me privately if you have any questions.
 
 Good luck! It sounds like a fun project. :)
 Patrick 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Karl Huysmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [gentoo-user] 3 TB ATA RAID server
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am planning to build a file server running Gentoo, and before I start
 buying equipment, I would like to ask if anyone had any experience with a
 similar setup.
 
 Here's the challenge:
 
 I need to provide around 3 TB of disk space with a limited budget. The files
 I need to store are all HD video frames, typically in SGI format, file size
 around 8 MB each. The files will be accesed from an SGI IRIX workstations
 and from one Win2K box. All these have Gigabit ethernet interfaces.
 
 Some questions.
 
 -I really don' t have the budget to do this with SCSI disks, so I planned to
 use two 3ware 7500-8 ATA cards and WD 250 GB drives. I would configure the
 3wares for RAID-5, this would give me approximately 3.4 TB with 16 drives. I
 would then like to stripe the two RAID's with Linux software RAID0, hoping
 this could crank up the perfomance a little bit. Has anyone ever done this ?
 What would be the best chunk size for the software stripe, knowing that all
 files will be approximately 8 MB in size?
 
 -Which file system would give the best results for this setup (ext3,
 reiser,xfs ...) ? Is there any way to tweak these files systems for optimal
 perfomance (8MB files) ?
 
 -Any tips to boost network performance ? Any tips for Samba and nfs ? Or is
 there another network protocol I could try ?
 
 -I have an AOpen dual PIII board available with two PIII-800 processors.
 Would this be enough, or could I have better performances using a newer
 board (dual Athlon, Xeon, ...) ?
 
 -How important is memory (speed, size) for this application? How much should
 I use ?  
 
 Any help or ideas greatly appreciated !
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[gentoo-user] festival emerge problem

2003-06-25 Thread Shane Hickey
Howdy all,
I'm having a problem emerging festival on a new machine.  It's almost
like my gcc libraries are borked?  I've included the last 30 or so lines
of output when it fails.  

In file included from ../include/ling_class/EST_Relation.h:43,
 from ../include/ling_class/EST_Utterance.h:44,
 from ../include/EST_ling_class.h:44,
 from ch_lab_main.cc:41:
../include/EST_THash.h:287: warning: `typename
EST_TStringHashV::IPointer' is   implicitly a typename
../include/EST_THash.h:287: warning: implicit typename is deprecated,
please   see the documentation for details
../include/EST_THash.h:289: warning: `typename
EST_TStringHashV::IPointer' is   implicitly a typename
../include/EST_THash.h:289: warning: implicit typename is deprecated,
please   see the documentation for details
../include/EST_THash.h:295: warning: `typename
EST_TStringHashV::IPointer_k'   is implicitly a typename
../include/EST_THash.h:295: warning: implicit typename is deprecated,
please   see the documentation for details
../include/EST_THash.h:296: warning: `typename
EST_TStringHashV::IPointer_k'   is implicitly a typename
../include/EST_THash.h:296: warning: implicit typename is deprecated,
please   see the documentation for details
gcc -O3 -Wall -o ch_lab ch_lab_main.o -L../lib -lestools -L../lib
-lestbase -L../lib-leststring -lncurses -ldl -lm
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.a
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libgcc_s.so.1 gcc:
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.a: No such file or
directory gcc: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libgcc_s.so.1:
No such file or directory make[1]: *** [ch_lab] Error 1
make: *** [main] Error 2
 
!!! ERROR: media-sound/festival-1.4.2-r3 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 67, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread MAL
Ohad Lutzky wrote:
NAT... that term is new to me, but I've seen it on VMWare. I'm guessing
that it means Network Address Translation. I can see that the Linksys
routers can do it. So that basically means that on the internet, only
the router will be seen, but it'll look as if it's running an FTP
server? And why will this have to be active FTP? If the port is
forwarded directly, won't it work just like it used to?
And what of port 80, and the other regular-use ports? Surely I'll want
several machines using those at the same time... how will that work?
Second point first... if you have several machines running a webserver 
on port 80, you'll have to choose a different port on your router to map 
to each. (one can use 80 of course).  If you want each machine to be 
visible on port 80, either get separate IPs for each machine, (more 
expense/different ISP service), or combine them all into one webserver 
running virtual domains.  Same with all other single port protocols, 
(SSH, IRC, Telnet, SMTP, etc.).  FTP however, is different.

Due to the age of FTP, it was designed with a different philosophy to 
single port networking approaches.
When you connect to an FTP server, (on port 21 usually.. unless the 
server has chosen to use a different 'control' port), you speak plain 
text to it.  Once you are ready to recieve a listing of files, you tell 
the server your IP, and a local port you have opened for it to connect 
to, (varies from connect to connect, but usually around the 32000+ 
range).  The FTP server then connects to that port on your machine, and 
sends you data.

This is Active mode FTP.

Passive FTP, works in a similar way, but instead of you telling the 
server where it can stick it's data, the server will tell you to connect 
to it and will let you know what port.  Again, this is a dynamic port 
and usually a FTP server will have a specific range that it will use.

So, if your ftp server allows you to specify the range of ports it can 
use for passive ftp, then you should be able to tell your router to 
forward that range of ports to your FTP server machine, thereby enabling 
passive FTP.

This is advantageous for people trying to connect to your server, who 
are also behind a NAT gateway, (as your server won't be able to connect 
to their machine for the same reason... thus the need for passive FTP).

Sorry I'm being so annoying... I hate it when I do something with my
computer that I don't understand 100%.
Ditto :)

Hope that explains it enough for you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cd-burning

2003-06-25 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le mercredi 25 juin à 20 h. 13, Peter Ruskin a écrit notamment:
 
 As root, do...
 lsmod
 ...and look for ide-cd, sr_mod and cdrom in the output.  If any of those 
 aren't there, do modprobe sr_mod for example.  Make sure that ide-cd, 
 sr_mod and cdrom are added to /etc/modules.autoload.
 
 Things to look for in dmesg:
 SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
 hdd: attached ide-scsi driver.
 scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
   Vendor: PIONEER   Model: DVD-RW  DVR-105   Rev: 1.30
   Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02

 
 My guess is that one or more of those modules I mentioned above are 
 missing here.

Yes, sr_mod was missing, I added it. ide-cd is in the kernel (is it all
right? ), and I haven't found out where in make menuconfig I can 
activate cdrom?
Thanks for some more help,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Regarding portage

2003-06-25 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Juan Ángel --
 The question that I have now is that is there a way to find a
 package from a file name? I mean, without having the actual package
 installed. The actual example may work: finding a package which
 would install the file /usr/bin/redir, for example.
 In Debian I used to do that using a file called Contents-i386.gz,
 which contained the name for a package and the files it had (like a
 big package/files-index).

IIRC there is nothing comparable @ Gentoo. This was discussed some 
times ago, but never implemented. I think someone had the idea of 
something like an online package/file database from which you can 
query -- but I am afraid it wasn't implemented as well, you guessed 
it.

But I am sure nobody would be angry if you would do that ;)
Greetings, Matthias

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde/gnome won't start with xfree 4.3.0-r3

2003-06-25 Thread Kees Bergwerf
Hello Jamie,

 In your home directory ( cd ~) execute the command:

 echo startkde  .xinitrc (this will make X start KDE by default)

 Then startx and you should have KDE up and running ... assuming that it
 is installed.

Thanks!
Yes KDE starts, but it also crashes, so it makes no difference :(

Perhaps I will install gentoo from scratch when I have time..


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Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger, gnome :-/

2003-06-25 Thread Norberto BENSA
Ok, thanks everyone. I'll take a look at gaim.

Regards,
Norberto




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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with scp

2003-06-25 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:31 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have run into certain issues with scp, where the remote server will 
only
 accept scp -v -2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] connections, because the remote server is
 forcing protocol 2 only connections.  Have you tried that?


I tried scp -oProtocol=1 and scp -oProtocol=2, neither made any 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:29:08PM +0100, MAL wrote:
 Ohad Lutzky wrote:
 NAT... that term is new to me, but I've seen it on VMWare. I'm guessing
 that it means Network Address Translation. I can see that the Linksys
 routers can do it. So that basically means that on the internet, only
 the router will be seen, but it'll look as if it's running an FTP
 server? And why will this have to be active FTP? If the port is
 forwarded directly, won't it work just like it used to?
 And what of port 80, and the other regular-use ports? Surely I'll want
 several machines using those at the same time... how will that work?
 
 Second point first... if you have several machines running a webserver 
 on port 80, you'll have to choose a different port on your router to map 
 to each. (one can use 80 of course).  If you want each machine to be 
 visible on port 80, either get separate IPs for each machine, (more 
 expense/different ISP service), or combine them all into one webserver 
 running virtual domains.  Same with all other single port protocols, 
 (SSH, IRC, Telnet, SMTP, etc.).  FTP however, is different.

Makes sense. So what I'm looking at is making it seem to the outside
world like I'm running just one PC (and I certainly wouldn't have two
daemons running on the same port on one PC).

 Due to the age of FTP, it was designed with a different philosophy to 
 single port networking approaches.
 When you connect to an FTP server, (on port 21 usually.. unless the 
 server has chosen to use a different 'control' port), you speak plain 
 text to it.  Once you are ready to recieve a listing of files, you tell 
 the server your IP, and a local port you have opened for it to connect 
 to, (varies from connect to connect, but usually around the 32000+ 
 range).  The FTP server then connects to that port on your machine, and 
 sends you data.
 
 This is Active mode FTP.
 
 Passive FTP, works in a similar way, but instead of you telling the 
 server where it can stick it's data, the server will tell you to connect 
 to it and will let you know what port.  Again, this is a dynamic port 
 and usually a FTP server will have a specific range that it will use.

That explains a lot of problems I had with my old ISPs. We didn't get
external IPs back then, so we had to use passive FTP (as clients).

 So, if your ftp server allows you to specify the range of ports it can 
 use for passive ftp, then you should be able to tell your router to 
 forward that range of ports to your FTP server machine, thereby enabling 
 passive FTP.

I don't think that would be much of a problem. Worst case, I can run my
machine on DMZ (de-militarized zone), so it gets all of the ports.

 Hope that explains it enough for you.

Sure does. You've been more helpful than an hour of TechTV! :)
Thanks for putting up with me. Now I just need some cash...

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[gentoo-user] Re: Emerged out of existence

2003-06-25 Thread Jonathan C.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:

I had the same problem, I had to boot off the CD and then
bootstrap. Be careful of the CONFGI_PROTECT variable, though.

Regards,

Jonathan

 
 Folks,
 
 Help.  I emerged sys-apps/acpid-1.0.2-r1 last Thursday and went home before
 it was done.  I wasn't in on Friday (or the weekend) but I checked and it
 completed emerge (9 of 9) and exiting successfully.  This morning I
 wanted to try the 'fixes' for the xfree emerge.  But when I typed:
 
  emerge xfree
 
 I got the following:
 
 python2.2: /lib/libpthread.so.0: version 'GLIBC_2.3.2' not found (required
 by python2.2)
 
 As a matter of fact, I get that when I try any of the commands in
 /usr/lib/portage/bin.
 
 So, what/how did I screw this up?  How do I prevent it in the future?
 
 I assume the 'fix' is to boot off of CD, mount as usual, chroot to gentoo,
 and emerge GLIBC_2.3.2 (or whichever package responds to that name with a -s
 flag), then reboot.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?

2003-06-25 Thread Gëzim
 GXzim, I've trimmed almost 10x the size of your
 reply. Could you please only 
 quote the relevant part of the email? Thanks.
 
I'm sorry manso this is how you do it. I'm
learning too :)

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[gentoo-user] n config files in /etc need updating

2003-06-25 Thread Gëzim
Hi everyone,
I update my cups, when it finished merging is said:
*IMPORTANT 3 config files in /etc/ need updating.

I did find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' and the output
was this:
/etc/cups/._cfg_printers.conf
/etc/cups/._cfg_cupsd.conf
/etc/._cfg_man.conf

I got some help from reading the forum FAQs but not
enough. Previously I had edited /etc/cups/cupsd.conf,
now according to the tutorial, I can do etc-update,
and replace all file IF I have NOT changed them
before. I also found out that to find the difference
between the new one and the old one I would do:
diff cupsd.conf ._cfg_cupsd.conf
I did that and the output was this:
root#
56c56
 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
 #ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
166c166
 LogLevel debug2
---
 LogLevel info
477c477
 BrowseAddress @IF(eth0)
---
 #BrowseAddress @IF(name)
root#

Now I have a few question:
1.) What does the number mean [at diff]?
2.) What do  and  mean ?
3.) What does the broken line mean ?
4.) How would I fix this cupsd.conf thing?

Thank you,

ZiM

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[gentoo-user] Re: Spamassassin 2.55-r1 question

2003-06-25 Thread Jonathan C.
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Steven Ringwald wrote:

 I recently upgraded from version 2.55 to 2.55-r1 of spamassassin. 
 Everything was working fine previously, but after the upgrade, my 
 per-user configuration files are no longer being read, and the bayes_* 
 files no longer updated or consulted. Configuration files are in 
 ~{user}/.spamassassin, and have not been touched since the upgrade. Is 
 there something that I am missing here?

IIRC, there is an option in the global configuration file, which might
have been overwritten when you upgraded that, when toggled prevents
user configuration files from being read.

I am very sorry, but I can't recall the name of the file. At least,
this gives you a lead to follow.

Regards,

Jonathan
 
 Please help!
 
 Thanks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] n config files in /etc need updating

2003-06-25 Thread Pat Kerwan


On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:14:37PM -0700, G?zim Hoxha wrote:
 [snip]
 I did that and the output was this:
 root#
 56c56
  ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ---
  #ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 166c166
  LogLevel debug2
 ---
  LogLevel info
 477c477
  BrowseAddress @IF(eth0)
 ---
  #BrowseAddress @IF(name)
 root#
 
 Now I have a few question:
 1.) What does the number mean [at diff]?

The numbers indicates the point at which where the two files diverge.
So the first one (56c56) indicates that line 56 in each file differs.

NOTE: the 'c' indicates a change, there are other letters for
different types of changes.  You should take a look at the diff man
page for details

 2.) What do  and  mean ?

Assuming you're doing

# diff FILE-A FILE-B

'' indicates the contents of FILE-A
'' indicates the contents of FILE-B

note: when running etc-update, the diff it shows you is FILE-A is the
original (your version), FILE-B is the update (which you downloaded
when you emerged).

 3.) What does the broken line mean ?

By this I assume you mean the ---.  This is just a separator between
the two versions of the changed part of the file.

 4.) How would I fix this cupsd.conf thing?
 

In this particular case, it looks like there aren't any important
changes (unless you want to change the LogLevel setting), so you could
just delete the change.  This should be in the list of choices
etc-update gives you.

- PK

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Re: [gentoo-user] n config files in /etc need updating

2003-06-25 Thread Juan Ángel
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Hi,

 56c56
  ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ---

  #ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 166c166
  LogLevel debug2
 ---

  LogLevel info

 477c477
  BrowseAddress @IF(eth0)
 ---

  #BrowseAddress @IF(name)

That's the output from diff,

 Now I have a few question:
 1.) What does the number mean [at diff]?

The numbers (for example 56c56) are the line numbers,

 2.) What do  and  mean ?

 from the file 1 (original),  from the file 2 (new one),

 3.) What does the broken line mean ?

I'd like to answer this, but i don't see any broken line, sorry,

 4.) How would I fix this cupsd.conf thing?

Just delete the new file with your own. etc-update will give you easy to 
follow instructions to do so.

The general output seems to be:

origfilelinenum c newfilelinenum
 different line from orig file
[or more than one difference]
- ---
 different line from new file
[or more than one difference]

In this exact case, there is no need to do anything in your new conf file, 
just follow the instructions from etc-update to delete the new file, but 
sometimes there are new versions of programs that need a new format for their 
conf files, so you should check that everytime.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cd-burning

2003-06-25 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Wednesday 25 Jun 2003 22:42, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
 Yes, sr_mod was missing, I added it. 
 ide-cd is in the kernel (is it all right? )

I guess so.

, and I haven't found out where in make menuconfig I can
 activate cdrom?

Neither did I.  I mentioned it because it was listed when I did lsmod:
# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byTainted: P
ide-cd 32256   0  (autoclean)
sr_mod 14616   0  (autoclean)
cdrom  29184   0  (autoclean) [ide-cd sr_mod]
ide-scsi   10512   0
scsi_mod   97748   4  [sd_mod sr_mod sg ide-scsi]
( irrelevant stuff snipped )

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RE: [gentoo-user] 3 TB ATA RAID server

2003-06-25 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
Did there driver compile straight into Gentoo okay? Out of interest from
a kernel config perspective what do you have enabled to get the driver
to work? scsi_mod, sd_mod, ide-scsi?

TIA

P.

On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 21:22, Patrick Nehls wrote:
 3ware www.3ware.com makes what are generally considered to be the best (an
 almost *only*) hardware IDE RAID cards. They are supported under linux since
 the 2.2.15 kernel. They are not cheap like Highpoint or Promise based cards
 since they actually do hardware RAID rather than software. 
 
 Since it's hardware based you can run a fast RAID system on slow CPUs.
 
 Patrick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: --[ UxBoD ]-- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:08 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] 3 TB ATA RAID server
 
 
 Hi ...
 
 Just a question about the RAID cards you are using. Who makes them? Are they
 supported under Gentoo Linux? I have just brought a ITE RAID card and cannot
 get the driver to compile - so I have 2 x 120GB HDs sat idle at the moment
 :(
 
 TIA
 
 On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 18:27, Patrick Nehls wrote:
  You won't get much/any performance increase striping the RAIDs in 
  Linux. The amount of data that the RAID5 will need, especially with 2, 
  8 drive arrays will absolutely swamp your PCI bus already. If you are 
  doing gigabit transfers on top of this your PCI bus will be hit even 
  harder.
  
  With 8MB files you probably want a larger stripe size for performance 
  reasons but the 3ware cards don't have much of a selection in that 
  area (we use a 7500-8 at work for a 1.4TB array of 200GB Western 
  Digitals).
  
  I'm not too familiar with the ins and outs of filesystem performance 
  in Linux but I'd choose a journaling one just for the extra 
  reliability. Neither Samba nor NFS add too much overhead to file 
  transfers imho so either should work for your case. However if you 
  have a Win2k client I'd just run Samba since the Windows box needs 
  extra software to do NFS. If the IRIX box doesn't have samba then it 
  may be easiest to run both on the server.
  
  3ware recommends sticking the card into a 64bit PCI slot for best 
  performance. We're using it in a 32bit slot on a standard Intel 845G 
  P4 motherboard and haven't had any major performance issues though the 
  data is not heavily used (mostly a huge live backup server). If that 
  Aopen board has 64 bit PCI slots, definitely use them. If it doesn't, 
  with 2 large RAID arrays in one machine, you should consider the extra 
  expense of a new motherboard with 64 bit PCI, processor, and RAM.
  
  What case are you planning on putting this in? You can find some 3-4U 
  rackmout cases with 16 hot swappable IDE drive bays but they aren't 
  cheap. If you have a lower budget maybe you are planning on building 
  one? You will need some beefy power supplies for 16+ drives.
  
  Finally, this isn't necessarily important for you, but many of the new 
  Intel 865PE and 875P based P4 motherboards have onboard gigabit LAN 
  that uses a new bus to offload all LAN traffic from the overburdened 
  PCI bus. In your case, this would likely give you a good performance 
  boost. So ideally I'd grab an 865PE or 875P motherboard with the CSA 
  Lan and 64bit PCI slots (if it exists). Er though I haven't checked to 
  see if the kernel supports these LAN cards.
  
  Please email me privately if you have any questions.
  
  Good luck! It sounds like a fun project. :)
  Patrick
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Karl Huysmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:09 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [gentoo-user] 3 TB ATA RAID server
  
  
  Hi all,
  
  I am planning to build a file server running Gentoo, and before I 
  start buying equipment, I would like to ask if anyone had any 
  experience with a similar setup.
  
  Here's the challenge:
  
  I need to provide around 3 TB of disk space with a limited budget. The 
  files I need to store are all HD video frames, typically in SGI 
  format, file size around 8 MB each. The files will be accesed from an 
  SGI IRIX workstations and from one Win2K box. All these have Gigabit 
  ethernet interfaces.
  
  Some questions.
  
  -I really don' t have the budget to do this with SCSI disks, so I 
  planned to use two 3ware 7500-8 ATA cards and WD 250 GB drives. I 
  would configure the 3wares for RAID-5, this would give me 
  approximately 3.4 TB with 16 drives. I would then like to stripe the 
  two RAID's with Linux software RAID0, hoping this could crank up the 
  perfomance a little bit. Has anyone ever done this ? What would be the 
  best chunk size for the software stripe, knowing that all files will 
  be approximately 8 MB in size?
  
  -Which file system would give the best results for this setup (ext3, 
  reiser,xfs ...) ? Is there any way to tweak these files systems for 
  optimal perfomance (8MB files) ?
  
  -Any tips to boost network performance ? Any tips 

RE: [gentoo-user] 3 TB ATA RAID server

2003-06-25 Thread Wayne Ringling
I built a 1tb server a while back using a single 3ware 8 port and it has
been rock solid.  I run it at about 80% full and have never run into any
problems.  I did compile into the kernel the 3ware driver and the scsi
parts into the kernel and not as modules.

On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 21:12, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:
 Did there driver compile straight into Gentoo okay? Out of interest from
 a kernel config perspective what do you have enabled to get the driver
 to work? scsi_mod, sd_mod, ide-scsi?
 



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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel C++ compiler ICC

2003-06-25 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 14:40, Martin LORANG wrote:
 Hi all,

 Am I right if I say there are only 4 packages that support ICC ?

I may be totally misunderstanding ICC, but all C compilers should be able to 
compile the same stuff.  A software developer shouldn't need to (in the real 
world, sometimes they have to) accomodate their code to a certain compiler.  
Any package is theoretically compilable with ICC, AFAIK.

 What is exactely the benefit of ICC ?

It's faster than GCC on an Intel chip (faster is an understatement) and it 
producers nicer code when compiled with an Intel chip.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: User Authentication

2003-06-25 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 12:26, Marshal Newrock wrote:
 On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Bobby R. Cox wrote:
Hoping to draw from others current/past experience. What would you
suggest to be the best way to authenticate mail users at the ISP
level.
  
   Can you be more specific?  Are you asking about database backends,
   client authentication, etc?
 
  I guess I would have to say which ever is most efficient as well ease of
  implementation.  We currently use OpenLDAP.

 Being a school, our setup will be a bit different than for an ISP.  Users
 have accounts on multiple machines, we do no hosting and have only one
 domain, etc.  OpenLDAP is our backend, and multiple machines and programs
 authenticate against it.  PAM is used for authentication, NSS for
 resolving user names, rather than having virtual users.  So every user is
 real on the mail server, but since only the imap and pop services in
 /etc/pam.d are set up to use ldap, users can only check mail, not login in
 any other way (except for us admins in /etc/passwd).

 If LDAP is working good for you, there's probably no need to use a
 different database type.

I must say, if you're implementing a server with no pre-existing users on it 
(as it sounds like you are), I can not recommend anything _but_ MySQL.  If 
you have high-speed disks (U320 15k RPM), as I am sure you do at the ISP 
level, then the buck stops at MySQL, IMHO.  I also think that Postfix is a 
mighty fine MTA and integrating it with MySQL is really easy if you follow 
the docs on gentoo.org.

GL

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel C++ compiler ICC

2003-06-25 Thread Brian Budge
ICC is generally pretty compatible with all the gcc compiled libraries.  
It also CAN be faster, but isn't really all that much faster than the 
newer versions of gcc.  I prefer gcc because it is closer to conforming to 
the C++ standard...

  Brian

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Zack Gilburd wrote:

 On Tuesday 24 June 2003 14:40, Martin LORANG wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Am I right if I say there are only 4 packages that support ICC ?
 
 I may be totally misunderstanding ICC, but all C compilers should be able to 
 compile the same stuff.  A software developer shouldn't need to (in the real 
 world, sometimes they have to) accomodate their code to a certain compiler.  
 Any package is theoretically compilable with ICC, AFAIK.
 
  What is exactely the benefit of ICC ?
 
 It's faster than GCC on an Intel chip (faster is an understatement) and it 
 producers nicer code when compiled with an Intel chip.
 
 


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