Re: [gentoo-user] uninstalling gnome
At 13 July, 2003 Andrew Gaffney wrote: I've recently switched to fluxbox from Gnome. I now want to uninstall Gnome. I want to unmerge all of Gnome's dependencies that are not depended on by another package. Is there an easy way to go about this? Well, you could: # cd /usr/portage # emerge unmerge gnome-*/* to unmerge everything related to GNOME. Note that this will also wipe out pretty much all GTK programs. Is this what you want? Note that GNOME is an environment, while fluxbox is just a WM. -- Andrew Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] uninstalling gnome
Andrew Farmer wrote: At 13 July, 2003 Andrew Gaffney wrote: I've recently switched to fluxbox from Gnome. I now want to uninstall Gnome. I want to unmerge all of Gnome's dependencies that are not depended on by another package. Is there an easy way to go about this? Well, you could: # cd /usr/portage # emerge unmerge gnome-*/* to unmerge everything related to GNOME. Note that this will also wipe out pretty much all GTK programs. Is this what you want? Note that GNOME is an environment, while fluxbox is just a WM. The difference is the reason I switched. If I wanted bloatware, I'd go back to Windows :) I want to unmerge all packages that were installed because of a 'emerge gnome' that are not depended on by some other package. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: uninstalling gnome
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 12:44:20AM, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:44:20 -0500 From: Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030708 To: Gentoo User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] uninstalling gnome I've recently switched to fluxbox from Gnome. I now want to uninstall Gnome. I want to unmerge all of Gnome's dependencies that are not depended on by another package. Is there an easy way to go about this? emerge unmerge gnome emerge -p depclean Have a look at this list, al those are not dependencies of packages in your worldfile. if you want to keep some of them, add them to /var/cache/edb/world and the run emerge depclean Keep in mind that a change uf your USE flags may change this list a lot -- This message is made of 100 % recycled electrons \..| PGP Key: www.stud.uni-goettingen.de/~s242275/pgpkey.pub (o_ .\.|-- Jabber: te_linuxguru at amesasge.de(o (o //\ ..\| ICQ: 124557012 (/)_(/)_V_/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge and bootscript.sh
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:00:53 -0500
Harlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FETCHCOMMAND='rsync -vcrtz --partial --progress --timeout=600
rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-packages/${FILE} ${DISTDIR}'
SYNC=rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-portage
GENTOO_MIRRORS=rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-packages
Okay, this one is a bit of a guess, but, are you also mirroring the
distfiles on 192.168.1.50? The bootstrap.sh script will only download
the distfiles and, if it can't find them on the local server, it will
try to download them.
One option would be to copy the files necessary for the bottstrap
process to the new computer's portage/distfiles directory and then run
the script. It shouldn't go looking to the internet then.
Were you able to get it to do the initial sync from the local system?
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a p100[?]
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Gëzim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've got a p100 machine with 16mb ram, I was thinking of installing either gentoo or debian [and try to use it only as a web server]. The reason I kind of wanna install debian in it is that it won't have to do alot of compiling with debian whereas gentoo lots... Which one should I install? One option would be to do a stage 3 install, which would cut down on things substantially. Personally, for my firewall box (P200 MMX), I install the HD in my Athlon 1700 XP, set the CFLAGS appropriately to the P200 and then install it on that. It only takes about 8 hours or so, as I recall, then I can swap the HD into the P200 and I am off and running. -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Silly question: Skipping stuff that emergesuggests
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:15:38 -0700 Jonathan Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easy way to just skip Apache 2.x and emerge everything else? Thanks! :) I think that you can do a big long line of emerge, something like: emerge package1 package2 package3 . . . packageN Then you can add everything, skip apache and walk away. -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: uninstalling gnome
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 12:44:20AM, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:44:20 -0500 From: Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030708 To: Gentoo User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] uninstalling gnome I've recently switched to fluxbox from Gnome. I now want to uninstall Gnome. I want to unmerge all of Gnome's dependencies that are not depended on by another package. Is there an easy way to go about this? emerge unmerge gnome emerge -p depclean Have a look at this list, al those are not dependencies of packages in your worldfile. if you want to keep some of them, add them to /var/cache/edb/world and the run emerge depclean Keep in mind that a change uf your USE flags may change this list a lot I figured I'd try to throw my modest Perl programming skills at this problem. First my script will parse the output of 'emerge -ep gnome'. It will then run 'qpkg -q package' on every package in the list. If there is nothing that depends on it that wasn't in the first list after it, then it goes on the list of packages that are safe to delete. I'll post it when I get it working. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: uninstalling gnome
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 02:28:34AM, Andrew Gaffney wrote: emerge unmerge gnome emerge -p depclean I figured I'd try to throw my modest Perl programming skills at this problem. First my script will parse the output of 'emerge -ep gnome'. It will then run 'qpkg -q package' on every package in the list. If there is nothing that depends on it that wasn't in the first list after it, then it goes on the list of packages that are safe to delete. I'll post it when I get it working. Isn't this what emerge depclean does ? check if a package is a dependency of an installed package (= registered in the worldfile) or a dependency of a dependency of an installed package? Regards TE -- This message is made of 100 % recycled electrons \..| PGP Key: www.stud.uni-goettingen.de/~s242275/pgpkey.pub (o_ .\.|-- Jabber: te_linuxguru at amesasge.de(o (o //\ ..\| ICQ: 124557012 (/)_(/)_V_/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo is slow
I've noticed common thread regarding several issues about multithreaded kernel architecture, yet it seems to me most people don't have a real understanding of how it all works. When discussing preemptive, non-preemptive, single processor and multi processor configurations, you must understand these are actually separate issues. What I mean is, whether or not a kernel is preemptive has nothing at all to do with whether or not the computer has a single or multi processors. Let me define some terms... Multi-threaded ... an environment which can emulate the execution of multiple programs 'simultaneously' by allowing each program to run for specific periods of time. In single processor environments, the concept of multi-tasking is a farse. No two programs are ever executed at the same time in the CPU. By switching which program gets to run many times (millions) per second, it appears to us slow humans that everything is happening at the same time. It's not. It is also important to know that this holds for a single CPU within a multiple CPU system. Pre-emptive kernel ... the concept of 'pre-emption' is one of many ways that a multi-threaded environment can handle which programs get to use the CPU, and when. Simple pre-emptive kernels switch amongst the currently running programs by 'interrupting' then switching to the next program that needs to run. When the interruption happens is based solely upon time. That is, the scheduler can switch the currently running program every X nanoseconds (known as a time-slice). If a program gets switched out, it is simply interrupted. The scheduler doesn't care whether the program finished or not. The scheduler just wants to make sure the next program gets to run. Complex pre-emptive kernels can introduce concepts such as prioritization into the scheduler. Non-preemptive kernel ... In a simple non-preemptive kernel, the scheduler doesn't decide which program gets to run solely based on time. That is, the concept of the scheduler interrupting and switching to the next program does not exist. Instead, the scheduler will allow the currently running program to run to completion. When that program finishes, the scheduler allows the next program to run, which itself is allowed to run to completion (rinse and repeat). The overhead in a non-preemptive kernel is less than that of a preemptive kernel because the scheduler does not have to run many (millions) of times per second. It only has to run each time a program finishes. The drawback in this situation is that a single program can take up as much time as it needs to run to completion before the next program runs. While this program is running, it appears to the human that the machine isn't doing anything (hence, it feels 'laggy'). In any given system, each processor has a scheduler which can switch programs in and out of execution. In multiprocessor systems, this means several programs can be running on CPU A, while many _other_ programs are running on CPU B. Whether or not the schedulers on these CPU's is preemptive is dependent entirely upon the kernel configuration. Bob Burrough http://www.bobburrough.com/ On 12 Jul 2003 12:50:49 -0700, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 12:16, Daniel Robbins wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 06:30:38PM +0100, Stroller wrote: To compare performance, you should use similarly configured kernels. Preempt decreases overall performance significantly but also increases interactivity greatly. Things will benchmark slower with it enabled, like you are experiencing. I'm sorry - this is really dumb of me to ask: what is increased interactivity in this context..? Lower latency with audio applications, smoother response in X, general elimination of any jerkiness when the system is under heavy load. Generally gives a much better experience when using Gentoo as a desktop environment, or for multimedia apps. You may get slightly lower framerates in games, but the game will be consistently smooth and you won't have audio dropouts even under high load. Best Regards, Daniel, One sort of urban legend that's out there in the Linux audio community has to do with the value of a dual vs. single processor systems and how much they can help in this area. The argument seems to go that on a DP machine one processor will handle the GUI/OS/drivers and the second processor will handle the audio application. However, no one (that I know of anyway) has really measured this quantitatively and shown it to be true. (It might be to subjective anyway...) Any thoughts? My concern has generally been that every SMP machine I've looked at (admittedly not that many) seems to be a generation behind in chipsets and memory technology which goes against the goal. If I agree to pay more money for a second processor I'd at least like the rest of the machine to be equivalent technology. I've never used a Linux SMP machine, so I have no idea how one tells the system to run a certain
Re: [gentoo-user] Silly question: Skipping stuff that emerge suggests
On July 13, 2003 01:15 am, Jonathan Nichols wrote: Is there an easy way to just skip Apache 2.x and emerge everything else? i think what you're looking for is /etc/make.profile/packages read the comments in there and i *think* that's what you'll want to modify to get apache not to upgrade. if it works, remember to post what you did to the list eh? -- an intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows. - dwight d. eisenhower -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: uninstalling gnome
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 02:28:34AM, Andrew Gaffney wrote: emerge unmerge gnome emerge -p depclean I figured I'd try to throw my modest Perl programming skills at this problem. First my script will parse the output of 'emerge -ep gnome'. It will then run 'qpkg -q package' on every package in the list. If there is nothing that depends on it that wasn't in the first list after it, then it goes on the list of packages that are safe to delete. I'll post it when I get it working. Isn't this what emerge depclean does ? check if a package is a dependency of an installed package (= registered in the worldfile) or a dependency of a dependency of an installed package? Yes, but it doesn't seem to do it very well. Also, this program is specifically designed to uninstall multi-package programs like gnome or kde. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Perl question
I'm writing a Perl program to uninstall a whole package tree, such as
KDE or Gnome. Here's my code so far:
#! /usr/bin/perl
my @pkgs, $line;
open QUERY, emerge --nospinner -ep gnome |;
foreach $line (QUERY) {
$line =~ s/\[.+\] (.+) /$1/;
chomp $line;
print ${line}\n;
# $line =~ /(.+)\/(.+)-(\d.+)/;
push @pkgs, $line;
}
close QUERY;
foreach $line (@pkgs) {
print This is a package: $line\n;
}
When I try to access @pkgs after this, there is no data in it. It prints
'This is a package: ' once and exits with no error. I know its getting
the data correctly, because it prints a list of all the packages on the
screen. What am I doing wrong?
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[gentoo-user] regenerating info index
I get this message a lot at the end of an emerge (--verbose) * Regenerating GNU info directory index... install-info: menu item `gpgsm' already exists, for file `gnupg' * Processed 64 info files; 1 errors. Isn't there a better way to handle this? Is this really an error? -- ^^^ Kurt There is no good nor evil; there is only power. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: your mail
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Marius Mauch wrote: On 07/13/03 Jorge Almeida wrote: The relevant (I think) data: hda: HD hdb: DVDROM hdc:HD hdd: - hde:CDRW (LG ATAPI) hdf: - hdg: 250 Iomega zip hdg: - Check if the host controller for hde-hdh is detected or try to move the cdrw to hdd. If I understand correctly, the controller is detected. Moving to hdd is something I would like to avoid, since the tower has the worst design you can imagine, which together with the short length of the cables makes such changes non-trivial. Besides, wouldn't that decrease performance? From more /proc/pci: Bus 2, device 13, function 0: Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20262 (rev 1). IRQ 4. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xb000 [0xb007]. I/O at 0xa800 [0xa803]. I/O at 0xa400 [0xa407]. I/O at 0xa000 [0xa003]. I/O at 0x9800 [0x983f]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xee00 [0xee01]. From KDE info center: 02:0d.0 Unknown mass ... (...) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ4 However: root $ dmesg|grep 02:0d.0 root $ -- Jorge Almeida -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Silly question: Skipping stuff that emerge suggests
i think what you're looking for is /etc/make.profile/packages read the comments in there and i *think* that's what you'll want to modify to get apache not to upgrade. Yeah, I took a look there.. it's not in there. =/ if it works, remember to post what you did to the list eh? Will do :D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Silly question: Skipping stuff that emerge suggests
On Sunday 13 July 2003 09:56, Jonathan Nichols wrote: i think what you're looking for is /etc/make.profile/packages read the comments in there and i *think* that's what you'll want to modify to get apache not to upgrade. Yeah, I took a look there.. it's not in there. =/ If you create the file does that work? -- Tom Wesley Please encrypt personal replies if possible. pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Silly question: Skipping stuff that emerge suggests
Tom Wesley wrote: On Sunday 13 July 2003 09:56, Jonathan Nichols wrote: i think what you're looking for is /etc/make.profile/packages read the comments in there and i *think* that's what you'll want to modify to get apache not to upgrade. Yeah, I took a look there.. it's not in there. =/ If you create the file does that work? Whoops, I meant that /etc/make.profile/packages is there, but there's no mention of Apache in the file. :) I know there's a USE flag for apache2, so I tried USE=-apache2 emerge -up --deep world and the same stuff showed up. Shoo, apache2! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] finding dependent packages
Since, when I update to mysql 4 I am going to have to update all the packages that are built against it, how can I find out which packages are built against mysql? -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl question
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 03:16:20AM -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
I'm writing a Perl program to uninstall a whole package tree, such as
KDE or Gnome. Here's my code so far:
#! /usr/bin/perl
my @pkgs, $line;
open QUERY, emerge --nospinner -ep gnome |;
foreach $line (QUERY) {
$line =~ s/\[.+\] (.+) /$1/;
chomp $line;
print ${line}\n;
# $line =~ /(.+)\/(.+)-(\d.+)/;
push @pkgs, $line;
}
close QUERY;
foreach $line (@pkgs) {
print This is a package: $line\n;
}
When I try to access @pkgs after this, there is no data in it. It prints
'This is a package: ' once and exits with no error. I know its getting
the data correctly, because it prints a list of all the packages on the
screen. What am I doing wrong?
Try changing the QUERY loop as follows:
- foreach $line (QUERY) {
+ while( $line = QUERY ) {
- PK
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Re: [gentoo-user] finding dependent packages
Ian Truelsen wrote: Since, when I update to mysql 4 I am going to have to update all the packages that are built against it, how can I find out which packages are built against mysql? qpkg -q mysql -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Silly question: Skipping stuff that emerge suggests
On Sunday 13 July 2003 10:07, Jonathan Nichols wrote: Tom Wesley wrote: On Sunday 13 July 2003 09:56, Jonathan Nichols wrote: i think what you're looking for is /etc/make.profile/packages read the comments in there and i *think* that's what you'll want to modify to get apache not to upgrade. Yeah, I took a look there.. it's not in there. =/ If you create the file does that work? Whoops, I meant that /etc/make.profile/packages is there, but there's no mention of Apache in the file. :) I know there's a USE flag for apache2, so I tried USE=-apache2 emerge -up --deep world and the same stuff showed up. Shoo, apache2! In /etc/make.profile/package you can add a line such as: =media-video/transcode-0.6.7 and portage will only ever see that version. The comments at the top of the file are quite handy. :-) -- Tom Wesley Please encrypt personal replies if possible. pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl question
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
I'm writing a Perl program to uninstall a whole package tree, such as
KDE or Gnome. Here's my code so far:
#! /usr/bin/perl
my @pkgs, $line;
open QUERY, emerge --nospinner -ep gnome |;
foreach $line (QUERY) {
$line =~ s/\[.+\] (.+) /$1/;
chomp $line;
print ${line}\n;
# $line =~ /(.+)\/(.+)-(\d.+)/;
push @pkgs, $line;
}
close QUERY;
foreach $line (@pkgs) {
print This is a package: $line\n;
}
When I try to access @pkgs after this, there is no data in it. It prints
'This is a package: ' once and exits with no error. I know its getting
the data correctly, because it prints a list of all the packages on the
screen. What am I doing wrong?
Nevermind. This code is simplified from what I was doing. I forgot to
get rid of blank lines. I was then feeding the blank lines to qpkg as an
argument causing it to just sit there and do nothing.
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Re: [gentoo-user] finding dependent packages
Ian Truelsen wrote: Since, when I update to mysql 4 I am going to have to update all the packages that are built against it, how can I find out which packages are built against mysql? There are two things you need to do. (1) emerge gentoolkit; revdep-rebuild (2) etcat -d mysql (then re-emerge those which are installed) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] regenerating info index
Kurt V. Hindenburg wrote: I get this message a lot at the end of an emerge (--verbose) * Regenerating GNU info directory index... install-info: menu item `gpgsm' already exists, for file `gnupg' * Processed 64 info files; 1 errors. Isn't there a better way to handle this? Is this really an error? File a bug. I had something similar and it was fixed through bugzilla. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] finding dependent packages
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Re: [gentoo-user] Silly question: Skipping stuff that emerge suggests
Jonathan Nichols wrote: Greets, all..this is probably a *really* easy question, but I'm drawing blanks even after reading manpages searching forums mail jnichols% These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Wow, Apache 2.x is now unmasked. Cool! But, I don't want it yet. I'm quite happy with 1.3.27 right now. Is there an easy way to just skip Apache 2.x and emerge everything else? Yes. To my utter surprise not one person has caught onto the proper way to deal with this request. Simply inject a stub to make portage think apache2 is installed. emerge -i net-www/apache-2.0.47 Easy? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage dependency issues
gabriel wrote: and now i have a working k3b with dvd ripping/encoding support. yay! but then today i tried the usual: # emerge --update --deep world and instead of getting the usual you have these packages to update, i got this: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies - !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =media-libs/divx4linux-20030428 have been masked. !!!(dependency required by media-video/transcode-0.6.8 [ebuild]) !!! Problem with ebuild media-video/transcode-0.6.8 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem. !!! Depgraph creation failed. doing adding the --upgradeonly option didn't work either, so now i'm stuck with a crippled system until i either (a) downgrade my software, or (b) figure out wht someone is supposed to do in this position. anyone care to fill me in? Yes. This is a common problem when people install a blend from x86 and ~x86. This is the reason I moved to no hassle ~x86. Anyway, first run emerge regen for sanity check. Then, perhaps try adding the ~x86 packages you emerged to /etc/portage/package.unmask (create if not there). Then try again. btw, outside of the above, i've found no problems with k3b-0.9pre2 so i'd suggest that it get unmasked... where do i make this suggestion? File an enhancement bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org/. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Silly question: Skipping stuff that emerge suggests
On Sunday 13 July 2003 11:53, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: Jonathan Nichols wrote: Greets, all..this is probably a *really* easy question, but I'm drawing blanks even after reading manpages searching forums mail jnichols% These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Wow, Apache 2.x is now unmasked. Cool! But, I don't want it yet. I'm quite happy with 1.3.27 right now. Is there an easy way to just skip Apache 2.x and emerge everything else? Yes. To my utter surprise not one person has caught onto the proper way to deal with this request. Simply inject a stub to make portage think apache2 is installed. emerge -i net-www/apache-2.0.47 Easy? Problem with that is that when 2.0.47-r1 etc come along they also get suggested for emerge... -- Tom Wesley Please encrypt personal replies if possible. pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-on-slow-computers mini-howto [was: gentooin a p100[?]]
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:49:10 -0700 (PDT) GXzim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've got a p100 machine with 16mb ram, I was thinking of installing either gentoo or debian [and try to use it only as a web server]. The reason I kind of wanna install debian in it is that it won't have to do alot of compiling with debian whereas gentoo lots... If you want to use gentoo, you should precompile everything in a chroot on a faster computer and copy an image to the p100. 1.) create a directory mkdir /root/chroot 2.) extract a stage tar ball to this directory cd /root/chroot tar -xpjvf /path/to/stage-X.tar.bz2 3.) mount the procfs mount -t proc none /root/chroot/proc 4.) create /boot, if not existing mkdir /root/chroot/boot 5.) Go inside the chroot and follow the usual install instructions from gentoo.org (except the installation of the bootloader) chroot /root/chroot/ /bin/bash ... 6.) Install further packages (webserver, etc.) and configure them. You can even start them in the chroot. (the runscripts complain about missing runlevels, but it works anyway) 7.) Leave the chroot and create an image (e.g. an simple .tar file; tar.bz2 or gzip's IMHO take too long to extract on such a slow computer) 8.) boot the live-cd on the p100 and setup network etc. 9.) create the partitons (i suggest not to use a boot partition in this case, but if you want to you're free to do so) 10.) mount the / and swap 11.) if you want a /boot, create the /mnt/anywhere/boot directory and mount your boot partition. 12.) copy the image to the p100 to the mounted / directory (!!!, except you have a lot of ram) and untar it. 13.) enter the chroot on the p100 and install the bootloader 14.) leave the chroot and reboot and in theory everything should work fine now :) No guarantee that it will work... Maybe I forgot something, but I already did this way of installation twice and it worked _for me_. Thanks guys, ZiM You're welcome to use your real name... HTH Florian Huber -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Program to uninstall Gnome or KDE (was: Perl question)
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
I'm writing a Perl program to uninstall a whole package tree, such as
KDE or Gnome. Here's my code so far:
#! /usr/bin/perl
my @pkgs1, @pkgs2, $line, $line2, $pkg;
open QUERY, emerge --nospinner -ep gnome |;
foreach $line (QUERY) {
if($line !~ /^\[.+\]/) {
next;
}
$line =~ s/^\[.+\] (.+) /$1/;
chomp $line;
push (@pkgs1, $line);
}
close QUERY;
PKG:
foreach $pkg (@pkgs1) {
open QUERY, qpkg -q -nc $pkg |;
DEP:
foreach $line (QUERY) {
$line =~ s/\s+//;
if(($line =~ /\*$/) || ($line =~ /DEPENDED/)) {
next DEP;
}
chomp $line;
foreach $line2 (reverse @pkgs1) {
if($line eq $line2) {
next DEP;
}
if($line2 eq $pkg) {
last;
}
}
foreach my $tmp (@pkgs2) {
if($tmp eq $line) {
next PKG;
}
}
push @pkgs2, $line;
print $line is safe to unmerge\n;
}
}
It doesn't yet consult the system or world files, and it seems to still
throw in a few things that should stay. Anyone have any ideas?
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[gentoo-user] emerge inject doesn't seem to inject
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:53:37 +0100 Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. To my utter surprise not one person has caught onto the proper way to deal with this request. Simply inject a stub to make portage think apache2 is installed. emerge -i net-www/apache-2.0.47 Interestingly, I have been trying to do this with qmail for a while to avoid accidentally emerging ssmtp as an unexpected dependency of something and screwing up my qmail installation. I have never gotten it to work. I issue the command emerge -i net-mail/qmail-1.03-r8 and it says that it is injected. However, there is no entry in the world file and emerge world is still trying to install ssmtp occassionally. Quite annoying. Is this working for others? -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge entire directory - how?
Jason Stubbs wrote: On Friday 11 July 2003 12:12, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: Hi, Is there a way to emerge an entire directory with a single command, e.g., something like: emerge gnome-base/* ? That's fairly easy. How about the following? for i in `ls /usr/portage/gnome-base`; do emerge $i; done Of course, that will re-emerge anything that's already installed. To only emerge new stuff, you can do this: for i in `ls /usr/portage/gnome-base`; do [ -a /var/db/pkg/$i ] || emerge $i; done Easier: for i in `ls /usr/portage/gnome-base`; do emerge -n $i; done -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge entire directory - how?
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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge and bootscript.sh
* Harlan (2003-07-13 05:00 +0200)
Thanks to Ian and Thorsten, I was able to get an existing client computer to
rsync from an internal server. This works great!!!
Did you emerge sync or emerge -fUD world?
Now, to get this working with a new system rebuild. I am installing gentoo
linux using livecd-basic-1.4_rc1-r2.iso and connecting to my internal server.
The problem is that the bootscript.sh tries to connect to my server, but is
not successful.
There is no bootscript.sh. Do you mean bootstrap.sh? Please be
accurate - you expect us to be precise, too, don't you?
bootscript.sh then tries to connect to quite a number of
systems on the internet without success; the new install computer does not
have access to the internet.
Have a look at the script. It replaces make.conf and restores it
afterwards. But the SYNC/GENTOO_MIRRORS should be honored and those
variables are not cumulative so this shouldn't happen.
After getting the hard drive setup, and extracting the stage1 tar file, I
added some lines to the /etc/make.conf. The lines where for these variables:
FETCHCOMMAND, SYNC, GENTOO_MIRRORS.
FETCHCOMMAND='rsync -vcrtz --partial --progress --timeout=600
rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-packages/${FILE} ${DISTDIR}'
SYNC=rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-portage
GENTOO_MIRRORS=rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-packages
Ok, so what am I misssing? What did I do wrong?
Please tell us more. Can you ping the rsync host? bootstrap.sh calls
emerge which in turn calls rsync or $FETCHCOMMAND. Try emerge -pUD
world and have a look at /var/log/emerge.log.
Try \rsync -vvv rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-portage
and
\rsync -vvv rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-packages
which increases verbosity.
Have a look at /var/log/everything/current at the rsync host and be
sure that metalog doesn't cache (it's described in the install.xml)
Thorsten
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Re: [gentoo-user] cdrw not detected (SOLVED)
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Jorge Almeida wrote: I'm trying to setup cd burning, but it seems that the CDRW drive is not even being detected. I searched the forums, but found nothing relevant for this stage. Any suggestion on what to do at this point? TIA The relevant (I think) data: hda: HD hdb: DVDROM hdc:HD hdd: - hde:CDRW (LG ATAPI) hdf: - hdg: 250 Iomega zip hdg: - root $ cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 2.01a14 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.25 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'IDE ' 'DVD-ROM 16X ' '2.0 ' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * Never mind, several options were missing in the kernel config, related to PROMISE support. Now it seems right, at least concerning the detection of the Promise IDE controller: root $ cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 2.01a14 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.25 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'IOMEGA ' 'ZIP 250 ' '41.S' Removable Disk 0,1,0 1) 'IDE ' 'DVD-ROM 16X ' '2.0 ' Removable CD-ROM 0,2,0 2) 'HL-DT-ST' 'CD-RW GCE-8160B ' '1.02' Removable CD-ROM 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * -- Jorge Almeida -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] patch command
begin quote On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 02:33:25 -0500 Ian Truelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, this is where I get to look all sheepish, but I have never been able to figure out the patch command. The man page itself does not clear anything up and I haven't been able to find anything via google that is not just a reprint of the man page or simply a reference to use patch. Can anyone point me to a good reference for how to use patch? patch reads a patch file (as generated by diff) from standard in. so either cat file.patch |patch or patch file.patch They are the same. patch also takes some options to mangle the incoming patch in different ways, most notorious of theese is the -p command, which simply tells it how many parts (from left to right, / separated) of the path it shall drop before it either finds a file, or gives up if a patch is unclean (the existing data doesn't match the expected data) there is either fuzz (when the data is there but a bit away) or reject (generating a new , smaller patch file called filename.rej inside the tree) so, basically patch is a recipie for : look at line 23 to 26 in file blabber for FOO BAR BAZ Change that to DOFUS FOO BAR //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] emerge both heimdal and mit-krb5?
For some reason, running emerge -p world returns the following: [ebuildU ] app-crypt/heimdal-0.6 [0.5.1] [ebuild N ] app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.2.7 Upgrading Heimdal I can understand, but mit-krb5? Is there any way to not emerge mit-krb5 while still doing emerge world? How do I check what broken package wants MIT-krb5? -- /Ian D [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.assv.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge inject doesn't seem to inject
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:55:30 +0100 Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you inject a stub for qmail there is no reason why ssmtp should be blocked too. Stubs are only good for the package which you specified and no others. However, my understanding is that ssmtp would not be installed if qmail was actually there, as it would satisfy the virtual/mta dependency. Therefore, if the system thinks that qmail is installed, then ssmtp would not be installed. Is this not how the injected stub is supposed to work? Also, should there not be an entry in the /var/cache/edb/world file after injecting? -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] package masking redux
Based on the discussion on the list, I created a /etc/portage/package.mask file with the following content: dark-lord root # cat /etc/portage/package.mask =net-www/apache-2.0.47 =dev-db/mysql-4.0.13 =media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.7 In order to temporarily block those packages from being picked up in the world update. However: dark-lord root # emerge world -Up --upgradeonly implies --update... adding --update to options. These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuildU ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.13-r3 [3.23.56] [ebuildU ] net-www/apache-2.0.47 [1.3.27-r3] [ebuildU ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.7_pre20030624 [0.4.6-r1] [ebuildU ] dev-perl/DateManip-5.42a [5.40-r2] [ebuild N ] net-mail/mailbase-0.00-r4 [ebuild N ] net-mail/ssmtp-2.48 [ebuildU ] dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2-r3 [4.3.2] [ebuildU-] sys-apps/attr-2.2.0 [20020330] They are still there. Is this not the correct way of doing this? If not, what is the correct way? -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a p100[?]
I think I saw somewhere at the gentoo docs that you shouldn't start gentoo install unless you have a decent amount of RAM, i think it was 64MB. However, from my personal experience I can tell that installing gentoo on p2 233 with 128 mb RAM takes a very long time -- more than 24 hours if you also compile X. So, I'd advise you to perform all the installation on the other computer and then just transfer the disk to that pentium machine. On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, Gëzim Hoxha wrote: Hi, I've got a p100 machine with 16mb ram, I was thinking of installing either gentoo or debian [and try to use it only as a web server]. The reason I kind of wanna install debian in it is that it won't have to do alot of compiling with debian whereas gentoo lots... Which one should I install? Thanks guys, ZiM __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] finding dependent packages
On Sunday 13 Jul 2003 10:10, Ian Truelsen wrote: Since, when I update to mysql 4 I am going to have to update all the packages that are built against it, how can I find out which packages are built against mysql? Read the ebuild for mysql-4. It contains instructions. A script is also included in the files dir. Peter -- == Gentoo Linux: Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.8p1 kernel-2.4.22_pre2-gss i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] docbook-sgml-utils and tetex
Hi folks, because I encountered a bug described in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23448 (emerging docbook-sgml-utils breaks with jade:I: maximum number of errors (200) reached; change with -E option) I tried to follow the steps at http://dev.gentoo.org/~satai/sgmlfix.html Now reemerging the ebuilds named in packnames.txt, the process breaks as noted in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14709 (tetex fails building with /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient). Any hints for me how this can be worked out? Regards, Jens -- BOFH Excuse #157: Incorrect time synchronization -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Silly question: Skipping stuff that emerge suggests
On Sunday 13 July 2003 07:15, Jonathan Nichols wrote: Greets, all..this is probably a *really* easy question, but I'm drawing blanks even after reading manpages searching forums SNIP Wow, Apache 2.x is now unmasked. Cool! But, I don't want it yet. I'm quite happy with 1.3.27 right now. Is there an easy way to just skip Apache 2.x and emerge everything else? Thanks! :) -Jonathan Not sure if this will help, but it was what has finally stopped me from pulling my hair out with every sync. I just want to keep my Gimp-1.3.16 and not have it downgraded with every sync and emerge world. Anyway... Create two files: /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask /etc/portage/package.unmask The above are not mistakes... it seems like they have decided to put these into two separate directories (strange as that is.) In these you will then need to add the files that you either want to unmask (in my case =media-gfx/gimp-1.3.5) or that you want to mask (in your case =net-www/apache-2.0). It is just like /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask in layout. The only difference is that it isn't overwritten with each sync and it is completely controlled by you. Well I hope that helps someone out there :) Justin T -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package masking redux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! On Sunday, 13. July 2003 13:29 Ian Truelsen wrote: Based on the discussion on the list, I created a /etc/portage/package.mask file with the following content: dark-lord root # cat /etc/portage/package.mask =net-www/apache-2.0.47 =dev-db/mysql-4.0.13 =media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.7 package.mask should be in /etc/portage/profiles/ Best regards, Ming-Che - -- Kmail 1.5.2, Gentoo 1.4 r3, ICQ: 126097979 Registered Linux User #241507 at http://counter.li.org GPG KEYID: 0x5EBF1692 Fingerprint: DB76 8D6F 9B7D B123 0FE2 0F18 389C A8BD 5EBF 1692 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/EVC1OJyovV6/FpIRAkwHAKDitkqCjbGsBNMpUkZnq5oSaMepiQCg3LSp YNXgJay15ARh3tDM10c8c8E= =6NCg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re[2]: [gentoo-user] gentoo is slow
Hi Mark, Nachricht vom Samstag, 12. Juli 2003, 21:50:49: The argument seems to go that on a DP machine one processor will handle the GUI/OS/drivers and the second processor will handle the audio application. However, no one (that I know of anyway) has really measured this quantitatively and shown it to be true. (It might be to subjective anyway...) Any thoughts? AFAIK the trick of SMP (Symetric Multi Processing) is that it is symetric, there is no cpu dedicated to some (OS|Driver|Gui|App) Task. If thats wrong, please correct me. My concern has generally been that every SMP machine I've looked at (admittedly not that many) seems to be a generation behind in chipsets and memory technology which goes against the goal. If I agree to pay more money for a second processor I'd at least like the rest of the machine to be equivalent technology. I guess thats a question of money. What are you missing on dual-boards? Timo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Build own distfiles mirror
Hi, I want to setup a Gentoo Mirror for an install at my local Linux-User-Group (They have only ISDN/64kbit Inet). I did read that docs on this, and whereas the docs for setting up the rsync part of the mirror are ok, information on the distfiles-part isn't that complete. In the docs is mentioned that the distfiles mirror will be around 30-40GB, but in the Forums I read something about 3-4GB. Is there a method to choose just a specific subset of packages? Like only the highest stable version, if there is no stable, the highest unstable version? Or should I do something like: for i in /usr/portage do for j in /usr/portage/$i do emerge -f $j; done done As for the download, it doesn't matter if its 1Gb or 40GB, as I have an agreement with to get local lan access to one of the mirrors. Spida -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge inject doesn't seem to inject
If you inject a stub for qmail there is no reason why ssmtp should be blocked too. Stubs are only good for the package which you specified and no others. However, my understanding is that ssmtp would not be installed if qmail was actually there, as it would satisfy the virtual/mta dependency. Therefore, if the system thinks that qmail is installed, then ssmtp would not be installed. Perhaps doing the inject is only satisfying qmail and NOT injecting/satisfying virtual/mta... If inject doesn't actual parse the qmail ebuild it may not realize that it needs to satisfy that virtual. Matt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge both heimdal and mit-krb5?
On Sunday 13 July 2003 11:20, Ian Delahorne wrote: For some reason, running emerge -p world returns the following: [ebuildU ] app-crypt/heimdal-0.6 [0.5.1] [ebuild N ] app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.2.7 Upgrading Heimdal I can understand, but mit-krb5? Is there any way to not emerge mit-krb5 while still doing emerge world? How do I check what broken package wants MIT-krb5? You could use `etcat depends' in gentoolkit. -- One-Shot Case Study, n.: The scientific equivalent of the four-leaf clover, from which it is concluded all clovers possess four leaves and are sometimes green. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Silly question: Skipping stuff that emerge suggests
* Jonathan Nichols (2003-07-13 07:15 +0200) Wow, Apache 2.x is now unmasked. Cool! But, I don't want it yet. I'm quite happy with 1.3.27 right now. Is there an easy way to just skip Apache 2.x and emerge everything else? The answer to end all answers ;-) ... Have a look at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/portage-manual.xml - World Update. If apache is already installed by you manually (emerge apache) and not as a dependency, modify /var/cache/edb/world so it has a line like net-www/apache-2. This will ensure that you get updates for the 1.X branch but no /upgrade/ to 2.X. If you haven't installed apache yet or it is installed as dependency, edit /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4/packages and add or modify net-www/apache-2. Thorsten -- Content-Type: text/explicit; charset=ISO-8859-666 (Parental Advisory) Content-Transfer-Warning: message contains innuendos not suited for children under the age of 18 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge inject doesn't seem to inject
Ian Truelsen wrote: On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:55:30 +0100 Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you inject a stub for qmail there is no reason why ssmtp should be blocked too. Stubs are only good for the package which you specified and no others. However, my understanding is that ssmtp would not be installed if qmail was actually there, as it would satisfy the virtual/mta dependency. Therefore, if the system thinks that qmail is installed, then ssmtp would not be installed. Is this not how the injected stub is supposed to work? Also, should there not be an entry in the /var/cache/edb/world file after injecting? AFAIK, no and no. Stubs probably work with /var/db and only apply to individual packages. It is a very simple functionality. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Build own distfiles mirror
The distfiles directory is around 15 gigs, you can save a LOT of space if you exclude many of the larger files like UT2k3, OpenOffice (there are several versions), the KDE i18n stuff and all of the Linux kernels (the ebuilds download the kernel packages from kernel.org anyways). Check the rsync manual for how to exclude files. Although what you plan on doing seems like a good idea. Emerge will just skip any packages that havent been upgraded anyways. -Original Message- From: Spida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Build own distfiles mirror Hi, I want to setup a Gentoo Mirror for an install at my local Linux-User-Group (They have only ISDN/64kbit Inet). I did read that docs on this, and whereas the docs for setting up the rsync part of the mirror are ok, information on the distfiles-part isn't that complete. In the docs is mentioned that the distfiles mirror will be around 30-40GB, but in the Forums I read something about 3-4GB. Is there a method to choose just a specific subset of packages? Like only the highest stable version, if there is no stable, the highest unstable version? Or should I do something like: for i in /usr/portage do for j in /usr/portage/$i do emerge -f $j; done done As for the download, it doesn't matter if its 1Gb or 40GB, as I have an agreement with to get local lan access to one of the mirrors. Spida -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Build own distfiles mirror
* Spida (2003-07-13 15:10 +0200) I want to setup a Gentoo Mirror for an install at my local Linux-User-Group (They have only ISDN/64kbit Inet). I did read that docs on this, and whereas the docs for setting up the rsync part of the mirror are ok, information on the distfiles-part isn't that complete. In the docs is mentioned that the distfiles mirror will be around 30-40GB, but in the Forums I read something about 3-4GB. The docs are for the official distfile mirrors. Yours is du -sh /usr/portage/distfiles Is there a method to choose just a specific subset of packages? Like only the highest stable version, if there is no stable, the highest unstable version? Or should I do something like: for i in /usr/portage do for j in /usr/portage/$i do emerge -f $j; done done It's always the highest version. If you want unstable: 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge bliblablup' Thorsten -- Content-Type: text/explicit; charset=ISO-8859-666 (Parental Advisory) Content-Transfer-Warning: message contains innuendos not suited for children under the age of 18 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge inject doesn't seem to inject
* Ian Truelsen (2003-07-13 13:23 +0200) On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:55:30 +0100 Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you inject a stub for qmail there is no reason why ssmtp should be blocked too. Stubs are only good for the package which you specified and no others. However, my understanding is that ssmtp would not be installed if qmail was actually there, as it would satisfy the virtual/mta dependency. Therefore, if the system thinks that qmail is installed, then ssmtp would not be installed. Correct, it would be shown as blocked... Thorsten -- Content-Type: text/explicit; charset=ISO-8859-666 (Parental Advisory) Content-Transfer-Warning: message contains innuendos not suited for children under the age of 18 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Build own distfiles mirror
Hi Thorsten, Nachricht vom Sonntag, 13. Juli 2003, 16:04:21: * Spida (2003-07-13 15:10 +0200) I want to setup a Gentoo Mirror for an install at my local Linux-User-Group (They have only ISDN/64kbit Inet). I did read that docs on this, and whereas the docs for setting up the rsync part of the mirror are ok, information on the distfiles-part isn't that complete. In the docs is mentioned that the distfiles mirror will be around 30-40GB, but in the Forums I read something about 3-4GB. The docs are for the official distfile mirrors. Yours is du -sh /usr/portage/distfiles But that will give me only the space for what I have installed. I need the complete set because I don't know what the guys at my lug want. Is there a method to choose just a specific subset of packages? Like only the highest stable version, if there is no stable, the highest unstable version? Or should I do something like: for i in /usr/portage do for j in /usr/portage/$i do emerge -f $j; done done It's always the highest version. If you want unstable: 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge bliblablup' Thorsten Timo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recommended CFLAGS for Dual Athlon MP 2200
On Saturday 12 July 2003 09:22, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Using those CFLAGS (athlon-mp instead of xp...typo), I did a base install of Gentoo. The bootstrap took 49 minutes. The 'emerge system' took 50 minutes. I love this system! :) Andrew Gaffney wrote: I'm installing Gentoo on a dual Athlon MP 2200 system that I just built. What CFLAGS are other people with this type of hardware using? http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3.html recommends: CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer Are these good enough? This machine will be a production server, so nothing overly agressive. Thanks. Maybe adding -ffast-math would'n be bad. It is not agresive even for those programs that are CFLAGS buggy, but it means a lot for the performance. Good luck. :o) -- Meka[ni] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrw not detected
On Sunday 13 July 2003 01:41, Jorge Almeida wrote: I'm trying to setup cd burning, but it seems that the CDRW drive is not even being detected. I searched the forums, but found nothing relevant for this stage. Any suggestion on what to do at this point? TIA The relevant (I think) data: hda: HD hdb: DVDROM hdc:HD hdd: - hde:CDRW (LG ATAPI) hdf: - hdg: 250 Iomega zip hdg: - MB: Asus P4T-F kernel 2.4.21 vanilla without ATAPI_CD support, with scsi emulation support I think, that's the mistake. Try including support for atapi cd. I don't belive that ide-scsi is driver for it self, but just on top of atapi cd. Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't hurt to try. :o) Good luck. :o) -- Meka[ni] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] -fPIC
On Sunday 13 July 2003 02:18, Norberto BENSA wrote: Hello, is -fPIC a good thing (tm) ? What exactly does it do? Thanks, Norberto Position Independed Code. In other words, just like .dll in Windows (or smopuiM - read it up side down :o) You know all those .so files? They are called shared objects and are made with -fPIC. -- Meka[ni] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Build own distfiles mirror
* Timo Boettcher (2003-07-13 16:43 +0200) Nachricht vom Sonntag, 13. Juli 2003, 16:04:21: * Spida (2003-07-13 15:10 +0200) I want to setup a Gentoo Mirror for an install at my local Linux-User-Group (They have only ISDN/64kbit Inet). I did read that docs on this, and whereas the docs for setting up the rsync part of the mirror are ok, information on the distfiles-part isn't that complete. In the docs is mentioned that the distfiles mirror will be around 30-40GB, but in the Forums I read something about 3-4GB. The docs are for the official distfile mirrors. Yours is du -sh /usr/portage/distfiles But that will give me only the space for what I have installed. I need the complete set because I don't know what the guys at my lug want. 30-40 GB. There is a rsync howto in the forums. You shouldn't try to mirror all distfiles - it makes no sense. Mirror only those that are requested. Q: I run a private source mirror for my company. Can I still access the private master source mirror? A: Because our resources are limited, we need to ensure we allocate them in such a way to provide the maximum amount of benefit to our users. As such, we limit connections to our master rsync and distfile mirrors to public mirrors only. Users are welcome to use our regular mirror system to establish a private source mirror. -- Content-Type: text/explicit; charset=ISO-8859-666 (Parental Advisory) Content-Transfer-Warning: message contains innuendos not suited for children under the age of 18 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] regenerating info index
Kurt V. Hindenburg said the following on 7/13/2003 4:44 AM: I get this message a lot at the end of an emerge (--verbose) * Regenerating GNU info directory index... install-info: menu item `gpgsm' already exists, for file `gnupg' * Processed 64 info files; 1 errors. Isn't there a better way to handle this? Is this really an error? PS: I'm noticed the same exact thing (1.4rc4)... except I dont reall seeing the actual error message, just the 1 errors. part. (I guess --verbose does that?). I'll check it out. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] athlon-xp athlon-mp cflag difference
Is there a difference in the above? I thought the processors were the same? -- Tom Wesley Please encrypt personal replies if possible. pgp0.pgp Description: signature
[gentoo-user] httpd dependencies
hp root # emerge -p httpd These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N ] app-editors/emacs-21.3-r1 [ebuild N ] app-emacs/httpd-0.5 Since when does Apache have a dependency on emacs? Who do I contact about getting this dependency removed? -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] mysql 4.x and postfix
Hi, Anyone running postfix w/ mysql v 4.x? Today when I ran my emerge -UpD world I got the recommendation to upgrade from v 3.23.57 to 4.0.13-r3. When I tried to upgrade to mysql 4.x a few weeks ago, it broke postfix. Steve -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] httpd dependencies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 13 July 2003 17:31, Phil Barnett wrote: hp root # emerge -p httpd These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N ] app-editors/emacs-21.3-r1 [ebuild N ] app-emacs/httpd-0.5 Since when does Apache have a dependency on emacs? erhm httpd is not just apache, the attpd package is an httpd server for emacs what you want to do is emerge apache app-emacs/httpd Latest version available: 0.5 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 4 kB Homepage:http://www.chez.com/emarsden/downloads/ Description: A HTTP server embedded in the Emacs Who do I contact about getting this dependency removed? - -- gnuPG key: ID 915B0745 at http://pgp.mit.edu/ http://www.fribyte.uib.no/~svein/PublicKey.asc Key fingerprint = 0123 B179 0994 F5C7 12D3 F253 E0AA 6A67 915B 0745 Registered Linux User #319622 'The maths is easy,' said Chaos. AH? WELL, MATHS, said Death, dismissively. GENERALLY I NEVER GET MUCH FURTHER THAN SUBTRACTION. Svein Harald Soleim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/EXys4KpqZ5FbB0URAvigAKCuEGWeSXWFTwrYxSpzBYJJ2UIHdACcDMpw FJr3l7gb/e2OyrG6bHOU4yo= =R9SU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mysql 4.x and postfix
On Sunday 13 Jul 2003 16:33, Steve Fox wrote: Hi, Anyone running postfix w/ mysql v 4.x? Today when I ran my emerge -UpD world I got the recommendation to upgrade from v 3.23.57 to 4.0.13-r3. When I tried to upgrade to mysql 4.x a few weeks ago, it broke postfix. Read the ebuild for mysql-4. It contains instructions. A script is also included in the files dir. Peter -- == Gentoo Linux: Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.8p1 kernel-2.4.22_pre2-gss i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] httpd dependencies
On Sunday 13 July 2003 11:37 am, Svein Harald Soleim wrote: On Sunday 13 July 2003 17:31, Phil Barnett wrote: hp root # emerge -p httpd These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N ] app-editors/emacs-21.3-r1 [ebuild N ] app-emacs/httpd-0.5 Since when does Apache have a dependency on emacs? erhm httpd is not just apache, the attpd package is an httpd server for emacs what you want to do is emerge apache app-emacs/httpd Latest version available: 0.5 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 4 kB Homepage:http://www.chez.com/emarsden/downloads/ Description: A HTTP server embedded in the Emacs I wonder what pulled it into my recent emerge -u world? I wasn't specifically pulling it in. I found it failed during my emerge world because I have the /home directory mounted through nfs and it couldn't create it's directories. I have already emerged apache long ago. Oh, well, just another anomaly. -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Apache trouble
ok, I've: # emerge apache php mod_php mod_ssl # ebuild /var/db/pkg/dev-php/mod_php-*latestver*/mod_php-*latestver*.ebuild config # ebuild /var/db/pkg/net-www/mod_ssl-*latestver*/mod_ssl-*latestver*.ebuild config I've also edited the /etc/conf.d/apache and /etc/apache/conf/apache.conf with relevant information. However when I /etc/init.d/apache start it tells me: [alert] apache: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name. And doesnt start. Ok, check out my domain name...its (none)...so I open up /etc/domainname and add 'mattbroughton.lan'I've also symlinked /etc/dnsdomainname and /etc/nisdomainname to that file. On reboot, its still coming up with the samething...ovation.(none) I do a su -c 'domainname mattbroughton.lan' and it sets it fine for however long the machine is up...which isnt long becausethis is my development laptop. Has anyone had these problems? Whats the fix? Also, does gentoo not have an httpd.conf #updatedb #locate httpd.conf only shows the httpd.conf files within the portage tree... -Matt B. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache trouble
Matt Broughton wrote: #updatedb #locate httpd.conf only shows the httpd.conf files within the portage tree... That'll be because it's called apache.conf/apache2.conf ;) /etc/apache MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] httpd dependencies
On Sunday 13 July 2003 11:37 am, Svein Harald Soleim wrote: erhm httpd is not just apache, the attpd package is an httpd server for emacs what you want to do is emerge apache Ok, I see where I got screwed up. something called for an update of apache. The package that was downloaded was httpd. I assumed that httpd was the gentoo name. Now, I see that there are two packages that download something named httpd, one is apache, the other is httpd. My bad. Now, the bigger question is: Why isn't the apache download named apache instead of httpd? The way it exists today is somewhat confusing. -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problem emerging mod_php
I get this when I try to emerge either php or mod_php... checking for unistd.h... yes checking for unix.h... no checking for utime.h... yes checking for sys/utsname.h... yes checking for sys/ipc.h... yes checking for fopencookie... yes configure: error: can not run test program while cross compiling !!! ERROR: dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2-r3 failed. !!! Function econf, Line 304, Exitcode 1 !!! econf failed What cross compiler? What am I missing? -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-user] gentoo is slow
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 05:53, Timo Boettcher wrote: Hi Mark, Nachricht vom Samstag, 12. Juli 2003, 21:50:49: The argument seems to go that on a DP machine one processor will handle the GUI/OS/drivers and the second processor will handle the audio application. However, no one (that I know of anyway) has really measured this quantitatively and shown it to be true. (It might be to subjective anyway...) Any thoughts? AFAIK the trick of SMP (Symetric Multi Processing) is that it is symetric, there is no cpu dedicated to some (OS|Driver|Gui|App) Task. If thats wrong, please correct me. I don't know. I'm really asking myself. As I said, I think this is urban legend, or at least the people that tell me these things never seem to be able to demonstrate it. My concern has generally been that every SMP machine I've looked at (admittedly not that many) seems to be a generation behind in chipsets and memory technology which goes against the goal. If I agree to pay more money for a second processor I'd at least like the rest of the machine to be equivalent technology. I guess thats a question of money. What are you missing on dual-boards? Nothing is 'missing', but, as I said earlier, the SMP machines, for a sililar price, tend to be a generation behind. For instance, PC2700 memory was emerging at the time I bought this specific Linux box. I could get a single CPU Athlon XP machine using PC2100 memory, or I could get an SMP machine with slower PC2100 (I think that's what it was at the time) memory and two processors. As I remember my shopping experience (I built the machine) I could have gotten two Athlon XP 1600+ processors, 512MB of PC2100 memory and a more expensive SMP motherboard, or a single PC XP 2600+ with 512MB PC2700 and a newer motherboard which is what I did. I made my choice based on what I knew at the time, which is cool because it's all basically a crap shoot anyway, but I'd certainly be interested in more and better information for some future purchase. I'm sure this is not the last computer I will build. - Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge inject doesn't seem to inject
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:07:08 +0200 Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ian Truelsen (2003-07-13 13:23 +0200) On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:55:30 +0100 Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you inject a stub for qmail there is no reason why ssmtp should be blocked too. Stubs are only good for the package which you specified and no others. However, my understanding is that ssmtp would not be installed if qmail was actually there, as it would satisfy the virtual/mta dependency. Therefore, if the system thinks that qmail is installed, then ssmtp would not be installed. Correct, it would be shown as blocked... I guess my question then is: why is it not doing that? Any thoughts on what might be wrong? -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-on-slow-computers mini-howto [was: gentooin a p100[?]]
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 12:04, Florian Huber wrote: If you want to use gentoo, you should precompile everything in a chroot on a faster computer and copy an image to the p100. 1.) create a directory mkdir /root/chroot [...] 14.) leave the chroot and reboot and in theory everything should work fine now :) No guarantee that it will work... Maybe I forgot something, but I already did this way of installation twice and it worked _for me_. It would be interesting to know how you maintain the system. I imagine a good idea would be to use distcc, but I wonder how effective could it be. I myself am interested in installing a firewall/dns on a P120/32Mb... I have debian ready on a CD. But would like it to be Gentoo if I can maintain it in reasonably later on. Greets. -- Vano D [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem emerging mod_php
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 01:00:36PM -0400, Phil Barnett wrote: I get this when I try to emerge either php or mod_php... checking for unistd.h... yes checking for unix.h... no checking for utime.h... yes checking for sys/utsname.h... yes checking for sys/ipc.h... yes checking for fopencookie... yes configure: error: can not run test program while cross compiling !!! ERROR: dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2-r3 failed. !!! Function econf, Line 304, Exitcode 1 !!! econf failed If you look in /var/tmp/portage/mod_php-4.3.2-r3/work/mod_php-4.3.2-r3/config.log, you'll see that it's having problems with /usr/lib/libxmlparse.so. A qpkg -f tells me that's part of net-libs/libwww, which depends on dev-db/mysql (not sure why, but it does). Re-emerge net-libs/libwww, and you should be good to go. /jgt -- People say, I'm going to sleep now, as if it were nothing. But it's really a bizarre activity. For the next several hours, while the sun is gone, I'm going to become unconscious, temporarily losing command over everything I know and understand. When the sun returns, I will resume my life. -- George Carlin, _Brain Droppings_ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] docbook-sgml-utils and tetex
Replying to myself... * On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 13:50:42 +0200, Jens Mayer wrote: because I encountered a bug described in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23448 (emerging docbook-sgml-utils breaks with jade:I: maximum number of errors (200) reached; change with -E option) I tried to follow the steps at http://dev.gentoo.org/~satai/sgmlfix.html Now reemerging the ebuilds named in packnames.txt, the process breaks as noted in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14709 (tetex fails building with /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient). I solved the issue by using the revdep-rebuild command which I had never heard of before (I was suggested in IRC to try this one). After reemerging quite a bunch of packages, I was able to compile 'tetex' and after that I could complete the steps mentioned in http://dev.gentoo.org/~satai/sgmlfix.html. Everything seems to work fine now. Regards, Jens -- Think twice before speaking, but don't say think think click click. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???
I did an emerge sync and then emerge -u --deep system -p which listed rsync as the only package to be upgraded - I did upgrade it. I then did emerge -u --deep world -p and get a long list of stuff - most of it Gnome stuff marked N. I notice mailbase is being upgraded which adds linc and then gnome-base/ORBit2. Gnome-base-gconf adds things like bonobo, libglade pulls in some stuff, and gonome-vfs does, too - and this continues for long page of stuff. What changed to cause the update to want to jam a bunch of Gnome stuff on my system - or is something borked with emerge? -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???
Hmm, I notice that one of the offenders (gconf for Gnome) has gone from 1.0.8 to 2.2.0. I'm not familiar with Gnome (having used it briefly once and not been back to it) - it's only on my system for a few programs who need it and if a program requires Gnome parts I think long and hard about adding it. Could it be that the new Gnome 2.x stuff drags more junk in then it did before? I did an emerge sync and then emerge -u --deep system -p which listed rsync as the only package to be upgraded - I did upgrade it. I then did emerge -u --deep world -p and get a long list of stuff - most of it Gnome stuff marked N. I notice mailbase is being upgraded which adds linc and then gnome-base/ORBit2. Gnome-base-gconf adds things like bonobo, libglade pulls in some stuff, and gonome-vfs does, too - and this continues for long page of stuff. What changed to cause the update to want to jam a bunch of Gnome stuff on my system - or is something borked with emerge? -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???
Hi, same problem here (-gnome in make.conf, I do not need a complete inferior desktop). I have installed grip.. that is the culprit in my case because the latest -up world wants to upgrade grip and to install all the gnome-stuff I do NOT want, but without grip.. no gnome. Glück Auf Volker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Silly question: Skipping stuff that emerge suggests
On July 13, 2003 06:00 am, Tom Wesley wrote: Problem with that is that when 2.0.47-r1 etc come along they also get suggested for emerge... How about modifying /var/cache/edb/world to include the line apache-2.0 or something like that MIKE -- Beware the JabberOrk -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Program to uninstall Gnome or KDE
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
I'm writing a Perl program to uninstall a whole package tree, such as
KDE or Gnome. Here's my code so far:
#! /usr/bin/perl
my @pkgs1, @pkgs2, $line, $line2, $pkg;
open QUERY, emerge --nospinner -ep gnome |;
foreach $line (QUERY) {
if($line !~ /^\[.+\]/) {
next;
}
$line =~ s/^\[.+\] (.+) /$1/;
chomp $line;
push (@pkgs1, $line);
}
close QUERY;
PKG:
foreach $pkg (@pkgs1) {
open QUERY, qpkg -q -nc $pkg |;
DEP:
foreach $line (QUERY) {
$line =~ s/\s+//;
if(($line =~ /\*$/) || ($line =~ /DEPENDED/)) {
next DEP;
}
chomp $line;
foreach $line2 (reverse @pkgs1) {
if($line eq $line2) {
next DEP;
}
if($line2 eq $pkg) {
last;
}
}
foreach my $tmp (@pkgs2) {
if($tmp eq $line) {
next PKG;
}
}
push @pkgs2, $line;
print $line is safe to unmerge\n;
}
}
It doesn't yet consult the system or world files, and it seems to still
throw in a few things that should stay. Anyone have any ideas?
Okay, it now parses /var/cache/edb/world to filter those out of the
list. Where are the packages in the 'system' class stored? Would 'emerge
-ep system' be sufficient?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in worldupgrade!???
begin quote On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:07:51 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed grip.. that is the culprit in my case because the latest -up world wants to upgrade grip and to install all the gnome-stuff I do NOT want, but without grip.. no gnome. from the grip homepage: Grip is a cd-player and cd-ripper for the Gnome desktop. //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] VMWare and gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r3
I'm trying to install VMware Workstation and I'm using gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r3 as my kernel. I'm having some problems building the vmmon module. I looked at the VMware troubleshooting web page and it says that they do not support certain kernels yet. I was wondering if any Gentoo users have installed VMware successfully and with what kernels. Here's the build errors I get when trying to build vmmon. make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:14, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:23, from ../linux/driver.c:17: /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h: In function `hard_smp_processor_id': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: warning: implicit declaration of function `GET_APIC_ID' /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: `APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: `APIC_ID' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h: In function `logical_smp_processor_id': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: warning: implicit declaration of function `GET_APIC_LOGICAL_ID' /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: `APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: `APIC_LDR' undeclared (first use in this function) make[2]: *** [driver.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[1]: *** [driver] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make: *** [auto-build] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' Unable to build the vmmon module __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Dual display with 2 X Servers.
Hey people, Is it possible to setup a dual-display but instead of using 2 video cards, using two full-blown systems and somehow link the 2 X Servers? I know this is sort of strange but it'd be a neat experiment for me to do. ;) Regards, Carlos. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare and gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r3
Dear Jeff, What versionof vmware-workstation are you trying to install? I am curring running the 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and I had no problems installing both the 3.2 and later upgrading to 4.0 vmware versions. Are you running the ./vmware-config.pl script or trying to compile everything by hand? Best Simon On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Jeff Greene wrote: I'm trying to install VMware Workstation and I'm using gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r3 as my kernel. I'm having some problems building the vmmon module. I looked at the VMware troubleshooting web page and it says that they do not support certain kernels yet. I was wondering if any Gentoo users have installed VMware successfully and with what kernels. Here's the build errors I get when trying to build vmmon. make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:14, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:23, from ../linux/driver.c:17: /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h: In function `hard_smp_processor_id': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: warning: implicit declaration of function `GET_APIC_ID' /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: `APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: `APIC_ID' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h: In function `logical_smp_processor_id': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: warning: implicit declaration of function `GET_APIC_LOGICAL_ID' /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: `APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: `APIC_LDR' undeclared (first use in this function) make[2]: *** [driver.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[1]: *** [driver] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make: *** [auto-build] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' Unable to build the vmmon module __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dual display with 2 X Servers.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 13, 2003 14:34, Carlos wrote: Hey people, Is it possible to setup a dual-display but instead of using 2 video cards, using two full-blown systems and somehow link the 2 X Servers? I know this is sort of strange but it'd be a neat experiment for me to do. ;) emerge x2x might do the trick - --mike -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/EaeizK7WDkEewTARAliiAKCcRoC57vxlTBcTkfBkeFpE3TAsVQCfVJ+I 2CVdBcns/PqGDzfGZrsOs/o= =KBXg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???
On Sunday 13 July 2003 13:23, Spider wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: begin quote On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:07:51 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed grip.. that is the culprit in my case because the latest -up world wants to upgrade grip and to install all the gnome-stuff I do NOT want, but without grip.. no gnome. from the grip homepage: Grip is a cd-player and cd-ripper for the Gnome desktop. To be honest, it'd be nice if programs were DE independent and could use features from both. -- Wielder of the mighty +1 LARTsaber of Unsubscribe Instructions At End of Message, the +3 Clue-by-Four of No Attachments to a Mailing List, and the -4 Shield of No Spell Checker http://joseph-a-nagy-jr.homelinux.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???
Sorry, this didn't go to the list. I'm using qpkg to find out what depends on some of these. One is Evolution which I was testing and which I'll probably remove and see if I can find another mail client (not Kmail!). What bothers me is that previous to this none of this gnome stuff was needed but now all of a sudden emerge wants to dump all this junk in. LIke you if I wanted a Gnome desktop I'd run it and not xfce! I think Gnome is trying to keep up with KDE in terms of size and working it's way into everything! I don't mind having a little bit that's necessary to provide some support but all these libraries, etc is too much. I looked at grip for a Caldera system and didn't want it because of all the stuff that went with it from Gnome. At that time I was using RPM and couldn't get the right Gnome libraries to make it work! It was Evolution - I unmerged it and all that junk is no longer needed. Now all I need is an email client for this system. Hi, same problem here (-gnome in make.conf, I do not need a complete inferior desktop). I have installed grip.. that is the culprit in my case because the latest -up world wants to upgrade grip and to install all the gnome-stuff I do NOT want, but without grip.. no gnome. Glück Auf Volker -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Opteron anyone?
It looks as though there's an operton in my future... maybe your too and this had caused me to ask... Is there an GENTOO 64bit effort going on, being talked about or planed? I'd most welcome the effort as Gentoo has been great and I can only imagine what it must/will be like on a hammer. TIA, Jerry -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 2:08pm up 3 days, 6 min, 4 users, load average: 1.68, 1.93, 2.08 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare and gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r3
vmware-workstation-4.0.4460 is the version I installed from Portage. I used vmware-config.pl and I first ran into a problem with something about my kernel headers being uniprocessor but my kernel being multiprocessor. I found the workaround to that problem on the vmware web site. I had to edit my autoconf.h. So after I got past that point, vmware-config.pl tried to compile the vmmon module and it stopped with the error below. --- Simon Mushi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Jeff, What versionof vmware-workstation are you trying to install? I am curring running the 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and I had no problems installing both the 3.2 and later upgrading to 4.0 vmware versions. Are you running the ./vmware-config.pl script or trying to compile everything by hand? Best Simon On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Jeff Greene wrote: I'm trying to install VMware Workstation and I'm using gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r3 as my kernel. I'm having some problems building the vmmon module. I looked at the VMware troubleshooting web page and it says that they do not support certain kernels yet. I was wondering if any Gentoo users have installed VMware successfully and with what kernels. Here's the build errors I get when trying to build vmmon. make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:14, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:23, from ../linux/driver.c:17: /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h: In function `hard_smp_processor_id': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: warning: implicit declaration of function `GET_APIC_ID' /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: `APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: `APIC_ID' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h: In function `logical_smp_processor_id': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: warning: implicit declaration of function `GET_APIC_LOGICAL_ID' /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: `APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: `APIC_LDR' undeclared (first use in this function) make[2]: *** [driver.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[1]: *** [driver] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make: *** [auto-build] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' Unable to build the vmmon module __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem emerging mod_php
On Sunday 13 July 2003 1:22 pm, Jay Goodman Tamboli wrote: /var/tmp/portage/mod_php-4.3.2-r3/work/mod_php-4.3.2-r3/config.log Bravo! Direct hit! -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running ebuilds one step at a time
For an answer to your ebuild question and perhaps others... point your browser to: http://gentoo.zhware.net/fuq.html On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:13:25 -0700 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point I do the patches or substitute files as required by the developers, then... ebuild compile ebuild install Does this look correct? I had sort of pieced this back together from man ebuild, but I've had a couple of issues over the last few days: [snip] You need to specify the ebuild as the second parameter as in the previous steps. Yes! Just my typing in and forgetting to type that. Now that you point out the ebuild package merge command, it appears from the ebuild man page that maybe the right order for me would be: ebuild package fetch ebuild package unpack do my edits ebuild package compile ebuild package install ebuild package qmerge This seems to be what the ebuild merge option is doing. Maybe you are suggestion that I can still use ebuild merge after the edits, which would possibly start from the compile step and go forward, but I'm hesitant to trust that with my limited knowledge of these tools and how to check things out. I'll give this a try. Thanks very much! Cheers, Mark And note that install will do the make install step (or whatever the package uses to install) in $DESTDIR, which is at /var/tmp/portage/package/image. To really install the package you need the merge step for ebuild, as in ebuild package.ebuild merge, this will copy the content of $DESTDIR to the live filesystem. Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 2:13pm up 3 days, 11 min, 4 users, load average: 1.60, 1.86, 2.01 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???
Amen to that! It used to be that way but for some reason authors are jumping on one desktop or the other and making their programs dependend on it. That makes it bad for those who don't use that particular desktop - we either don't use the app or we have to but a bunch of extra junk in we don't need - kind of like in the Windows world! On Sunday 13 July 2003 13:23, Spider wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: begin quote On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:07:51 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the grip homepage: Grip is a cd-player and cd-ripper for the Gnome desktop. To be honest, it'd be nice if programs were DE independent and could use features from both. -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???
On Sunday 13 July 2003 14:03, Brett I. Holcomb wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: Amen to that! It used to be that way but for some reason authors are jumping on one desktop or the other and making their programs dependend on it. That makes it bad for those who don't use that particular desktop - we either don't use the app or we have to but a bunch of extra junk in we don't need - kind of like in the Windows world! Exactly like Windows, unfortunately. :( And I really, really like Grip. -- Wielder of the mighty +1 LARTsaber of Unsubscribe Instructions At End of Message, the +3 Clue-by-Four of No Attachments to a Mailing List, and the -4 Shield of No Spell Checker http://joseph-a-nagy-jr.homelinux.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???
Grip was recommended to me a long time ago but I didn't want the Gnome stuff so I stuck with XCDRoast. Oh, well. On Sunday 13 July 2003 14:03, Brett I. Holcomb wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: Amen to that! It used to be that way but for some reason authors are jumping on one desktop or the other and making their programs dependend on it. That makes it bad for those who don't use that particular desktop - we either don't use the app or we have to but a bunch of extra junk in we don't need - kind of like in the Windows world! Exactly like Windows, unfortunately. :( And I really, really like Grip. -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare and gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r3
Ok, I figured something out. The second problem (not being able to build vmmon) is caused by fixing the first problem (the uniprocessor, multiprocessor problem). To fix the first problem, I had to add #define CONFIG_SMP 1 and comment out #undef CONFIG_SMP to my autoconf.h. So I did that and then I added a pause in the vmware-config.pl so that I could change it back to #define CONFIG_SMP right before it tries to build the modules. It got past the previous error, but now I get a new build error. Does anyone have any suggestions as to why I even have to edit my autoconf.h in the first place? I think there are some features missing in my kernel. /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/ksyms.ver:682:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition ../linux/hostif.c: In function `HostIF_APICBase': ../linux/hostif.c:1513: `FIX_APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) ../linux/hostif.c:1513: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../linux/hostif.c:1513: for each function it appears in.) ../linux/hostif.c: In function `HostIF_IOAPICBase': ../linux/hostif.c:1770: `FIX_IO_APIC_BASE_0' undeclared (first use in this function) make[2]: *** [hostif.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config7/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[1]: *** [driver] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config7/vmmon-only' make: *** [auto-build] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config7/vmmon-only' Unable to build the vmmon module --- Jeff Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vmware-workstation-4.0.4460 is the version I installed from Portage. I used vmware-config.pl and I first ran into a problem with something about my kernel headers being uniprocessor but my kernel being multiprocessor. I found the workaround to that problem on the vmware web site. I had to edit my autoconf.h. So after I got past that point, vmware-config.pl tried to compile the vmmon module and it stopped with the error below. --- Simon Mushi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Jeff, What versionof vmware-workstation are you trying to install? I am curring running the 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and I had no problems installing both the 3.2 and later upgrading to 4.0 vmware versions. Are you running the ./vmware-config.pl script or trying to compile everything by hand? Best Simon On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Jeff Greene wrote: I'm trying to install VMware Workstation and I'm using gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r3 as my kernel. I'm having some problems building the vmmon module. I looked at the VMware troubleshooting web page and it says that they do not support certain kernels yet. I was wondering if any Gentoo users have installed VMware successfully and with what kernels. Here's the build errors I get when trying to build vmmon. make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:14, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:23, from ../linux/driver.c:17: /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h: In function `hard_smp_processor_id': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: warning: implicit declaration of function `GET_APIC_ID' /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: `APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:90: `APIC_ID' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h: In function `logical_smp_processor_id': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: warning: implicit declaration of function `GET_APIC_LOGICAL_ID' /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: `APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:96: `APIC_LDR' undeclared (first use in this function) make[2]: *** [driver.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/driver-2.4.20-gentoo-r3' make[1]: *** [driver] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' make: *** [auto-build] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' Unable to build the vmmon module __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???
On Sunday 13 July 2003 20:23, Spider wrote: begin quote On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:07:51 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed grip.. that is the culprit in my case because the latest -up world wants to upgrade grip and to install all the gnome-stuff I do NOT want, but without grip.. no gnome. from the grip homepage: Grip is a cd-player and cd-ripper for the Gnome desktop. up until now it was not necessary to have gnome for grip... only the help system wouldn't work without it.. no problem, I'll unmerge grip Glück Auf Volker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dual display with 2 X Servers.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Domingo, 13 de Julio de 2003 20:34, Carlos escribió: Maybe Synergy could be helpful: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net For a spanish description of this software you may look here: http://weblogs.javahispano.org/page/aitor/20030626#title_title_1_cpu_sco Regards, Xabi. Hey people, Is it possible to setup a dual-display but instead of using 2 video cards, using two full-blown systems and somehow link the 2 X Servers? I know this is sort of strange but it'd be a neat experiment for me to do. ;) Regards, Carlos. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list - -- GnuPG signed and encrypted email preferred http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x093F978B Key fingerprint = B3C5 0C7B 1587 071C 3D9C 545A 72FC 0234 093F 978B -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/EbW2cvwCNAk/l4sRAuoKAKCcVymhFWZeNNl+fTOU9h97dEUpHwCgsHQw Ci8gcmu+EDjq4b35DUFv9Qg= =bkd0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrw not detected
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Meka[ni] wrote: On Sunday 13 July 2003 01:41, Jorge Almeida wrote: kernel 2.4.21 vanilla without ATAPI_CD support, with scsi emulation support I think, that's the mistake. Try including support for atapi cd. I don't belive that ide-scsi is driver for it self, but just on top of atapi cd. Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't hurt to try. :o) Good luck. :o) Thanks for your answer. The problem is solved (my former mail), but even so I would like to know whether there is some advantage in including atapi support; ide-scsi is a driver by itself, but maybe both are useful, I don't know. Regards, -- Jorge Almeida -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???
On Sunday 13 July 2003 14:21, Brett I. Holcomb wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: Grip was recommended to me a long time ago but I didn't want the Gnome stuff so I stuck with XCDRoast. Oh, well. snip Can we please not top post? Thanks. I finc XCDRoast is good for making cd's, but I can't get it to create an .iso, it only wants to create .img (even though I have the default stuff for iso9660). -- Wielder of the mighty +1 LARTsaber of Unsubscribe Instructions At End of Message, the +3 Clue-by-Four of No Attachments to a Mailing List, and the -4 Shield of No Spell Checker http://joseph-a-nagy-jr.homelinux.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???
On Sunday 13 July 2003 03:58 pm, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: On Sunday 13 July 2003 14:21, Brett I. Holcomb wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: Grip was recommended to me a long time ago but I didn't want the Gnome stuff so I stuck with XCDRoast. Oh, well. snip Can we please not top post? Thanks. I finc XCDRoast is good for making cd's, but I can't get it to create an .iso, it only wants to create .img (even though I have the default stuff for iso9660). Joseph, I've had the same problem with Xcdroast. I now use eroaster for iso's. It's a snap. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] onscreen font kerning after emerge of qt?
Hi all, Just re-emerged my qt, but now my fonts (esp Arial) seem very spaced out, did something change somewhere with the font spacing? Has anyone else noticed this? -- Tom Wesley Please encrypt personal replies if possible. pgp0.pgp Description: signature
