Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Yes I agree... it's a shame. I tried to run a few of the other beta maps but
they never showed up on Quickplay so the likelihood that they would get
played was super rare.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 8:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

And beta maps are still valve server exclusive for quickplay? :(

At the moment I can't even find any valve servers for it using quickplay.

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Eric Smith  wrote:

> Set "tf_powerup_mode 1" and then changelevel to ctf_foundry or ctf_gorge.
>
> -Eric
>


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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Any detailed information on what is needed server side to setup this beta
gamemode for those of us that run lonely community servers?


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Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version number is 2559181.

-Eric

-

Happy Smissmas 2014!

- All Players who play TF2 during the event will receive a Gift: a Stuffed
Stocking! Stockings contain goodies for good little Mercenaries.
- Added 29 Limited community-contributed winter items to the Nice crate.
- Added new Limited Festive weapons to the Naughty crate.
- Limited time items can only be found during a limited window of time.  The
Naughty and Nice crate items will no longer be available after February 16,
2015.
- Added Naughty and Nice winter keys to the Mann Co. Store. 
- Naughty and Nice winter crates cannot be opened after February 16, 2015. 
- Premium Players will receive a Secret Saxton to give to another player.
- Item grants from previous events (including the Spirit of Giving and the
Winter Holiday noise maker) have been re-enabled for all players, including
those who deleted their earlier grants.

Weapons
Added The Iron Bomber
- Demoman Grenade Launcher
- Grenades do not bounce or roll
- Damage radius reduced by 20%
- Grenades that self-detonate deal 10% less damage
- Added The Iron Bomber to the Mann Co. Store, craft list, and item drop
list

Added The Quickiebomb Launcher
- Demoman Stickybomb Launcher
- Stickybomb arm time reduced by 0.2 seconds
- Stickybombs can destroy enemy stickybombs
- Charge time decreased by 50%
- Stickybombs fizzle after 2 seconds
- -15% damage penalty
- -25% clip size
- Added The Quickiebomb Launcher to the Mann Co. Store, craft list, and item
drop list

Added The Panic Attack
- Multiclass Shotgun
- 34% Faster reload time
- Hold fire to load up to 4 shells
- Fire rate increases as health decreases
- Weapon spread increases as health decreases
- Added The Panic Attack to the Mann Co. Store, craft list, and item drop
list

Demoman Changes
- Damage variance on grenades and stickybombs reduced from +/- 10% damage to
+/-2%.
- Grenades and Stickybombs now have the same base blast radius as rockets.
Changed to 146 from 159.

Grenade Launcher
- Direct hit grenades now deal full damage to target regardless of where it
struck the enemy. Previously full damage would only occur when grenades
exploded closer to the targets feet.

Stickybomb  Launcher
- Stickybombs that detonate in the air now have a radius ramp up, starting
at 85% at base arm time (0.8s) going back to 100% over 2 seconds.
Stickybombs that touch the world will have full radius.
- Stickybombs now have a more visible trail while traveling through the air
- Stickybombs arm particle is slightly more visible

Loose Cannon
- Double donk explosive damage now deal full radius damage to victims.
Previously double donk explosive damage was reduced by radius distance from
the explosion.
- Removed a hidden penalty where Cannonballs that touched the world would
deal 50% less damage in addition to regular grenade damage reduction on
world touch.

Loch-n-Load
- Changes to base grenade damage variance now ensure the Loch-n-Load does
not exceed 124 damage on a single hit.
- Removed +25% self-damage penalty
- Added -25% radius penalty
- Changed clipsize penalty to -25% (3 grenades per clip) from -50% (2
grenades per clip)
- Loch-n-load grenades no longer visually tumble when fired

Bootlegger / Ali Baba's Wee Booties
- Added +25% Demo Charge meter on charge kill

Tide Turner
- Added Penalty: Taking damage while shield charging reduces remaining
charging time
- Kills while charging now only add 75% meter on charge kills instead of
100%

Scottish Resistance
- It is now slightly easier to do sticky jumps with the Scottish Resistance.
Increased range check for stickybomb jumping to sticky damage radius of 146
from 100.

Scotsman's Skullcutter
- Movement speed penalty now only applies when weapon is active

Claidheamh Mor
- Added +25% Demo Charge meter on charge kill

Added new game mode Mannpower to the TF2 Beta Mannpower Mode
- To Play. Click on Play Multiplayer, enable Play Beta Maps checkbox, and
then choose Mannpower Mode.
- The Following is a list of features in the initial launch of Mannpower and
is subject to changes in future updates.  Feedback is highly encouraged
- Contains 8 permanent power ups players can find in the map.  
- Players can only hold 1 permanent power up at a time.
- Killing a player with a permanent power up forces the power up to drop.
- Contains 1 temporary power that can be found in the map.
- Use the 'dr

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

This isn't the Xmas update so perhaps in a few weeks they can make amends by 
releasing the map anyway?
Personally I'd like to see a map that is geared towards 32player counts and 
faster re-spawn. At this point in the game's history I don't see why not 
considering the power modern computers/servers have now to run the extra 
weight. I refuse to play on any server that doesn't have fast re-spawn as I 
don't wish to waste my small amount of playing time sitting in spawn watching 
others play while I wait to get back into the action.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:21 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

I too am disappointed with this update, so much that I'll most probably be 
spending my money on some other games this month. I thought there would be more 
to the winter season/event than just duck collecting and some new items (mostly 
cosmetics). A map would've certainly been nice. Oh well, people can't expect 
everything I guess - especially when there are bugs that still haven't been 
fixed for weeks or months.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Recommendation for TF2, DoD:S, etc server content downloading

[Frank]

Over writing the map with the same name as Valve does it really shouldn't make 
no difference. You are going to upload another map regardless another file be 
it named _v1 or _v2 or whatever. You are still uploading content customized 
from the server to the clients.

The idea here is if I have a customized map made by me named My_Tf2_Map then I 
should be able to alter the map no matter when and upload the exact same name 
and have it over write the original to clients that revisit my servers. This 
should be allowed vs me having to use extensions to the name like My_Tf2_Map_v1 
or My_Tf2_Map_v2 to continue on like that is just counter productive.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:05 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Recommendation for TF2, DoD:S, etc server content 
downloading

I really don't think what you are doing is something that you should be doing. 
Modifying maps is wrong, map maker didn't want your logos in there so they 
should not be there and i bet 99% of the real mapmakers don't want their maps 
edited for something that they did not do. 
Besides, decompiling breaks several things. You can add decals to the maps 
without modifying maps too.

PS: Soundscapes are somewhat broken and Valve is aware.

-ics

Aaron Thompson kirjoitti:
> I usually add my clan acronym to maps weve modified. We leave all 
> credits alone, of course. I used to add stuff to trade minecraft but 
> now ive been having a hard time compiling and the soundscapes are not 
> cooperating anymore. It's annoying. Anyways thats how i avoid making 
> maps and edits that someone could make too.
> On Dec 3, 2014 7:27 PM, "Ryan Stecker"  wrote:
>
>> Changing the filename as a server operator is still fragile. As I 
>> mentioned before, renaming a map without fixing up embedded content 
>> will hose soundscripts and such. There's also not much guarantee that 
>> some other server op won't make a similar rename of a differing file.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Erik-jan Riemers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Descent server operators change the version number, descent map 
>>> makers do that too. But agreed on some kind of validation and better 
>>> integration.
>>> (Not to mention the tons of maps i still have on my download server
>> which i
>>> dont use anymore, just because i cant really tell anymore whats 
>>> being
>> used)
>>> :)
>>>
>>> 2014-12-02 0:29 GMT+01:00 ics :
>>>
 With valve, the source of the files is trusted. If this would be 
 implemented, only way to do it is ti integrate maps into steam tf2 
 workshop. I'm surprised why valve doesn't want to do this and yet 
 they reward people who make items all the time. Workshop 
 integration isn't
>> the
 best in csgo but it could be further improved to accommodate tf2.

 -ics

 - Alkuperäinen viesti -
> +1 this for sure. I'd love to see the custom content over write 
> +much
>>> like
> Valve over writes maps and its content now when a revision bump is
>>> made.
> I get so tired of having to go thru _v1 or v32 etc etc when you
>> change
> just the smallest thing on a map. The client has to re-download it 
> anyway cause of a new name, may as well make it over write and 
> start over.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ryan Stecker Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:14 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life
>> dedicated
> Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: [hlds_linux] Recommendation for TF2, DoD:S, etc server
>> content
> downloading
>
> This email is mostly addressed to anyone within Valve that's still 
> maintaining the TF2 branch of the source engine, and I suppose 
> anyone
>>> on
> this mailing list that'd like to comment on this recommendation.
>
> There's one frustrating issue with clients downloading custom 
> content (maps, models, etc) in particular: it's fairly painful 
> when unaware mappers and server operators release or update maps 
> (and other
>> content)
> without modifying the filename of the content. For maps this is 
> particularly destructive because many clients would be left unable 
> to connect and play on the server in question if the map differs 
> from
>> what
> the server is running.
>
> Additionally, there are some documented cases of clients having 
> their
>>> map
> downloads not get fully completed or get into a corrupt state 
> which
>> is
> equally as painful for the same reasons. Many users are simply
>> unaware
>>> of
> how to solve this problem by locating and deleting the files in
>>> question.
> I'm sure this

Re: [hlds_linux] Recommendation for TF2, DoD:S, etc server content downloading

[Frank]

+1 this for sure. I'd love to see the custom content over write much like
Valve over writes maps and its content now when a revision bump is made.
I get so tired of having to go thru _v1 or v32 etc etc when you change just
the smallest thing on a map. The client has to re-download it anyway cause
of a new name, may as well make it over write and start over.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Stecker
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:14 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Win32
server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] Recommendation for TF2, DoD:S, etc server content
downloading

This email is mostly addressed to anyone within Valve that's still
maintaining the TF2 branch of the source engine, and I suppose anyone on
this mailing list that'd like to comment on this recommendation.

There's one frustrating issue with clients downloading custom content (maps,
models, etc) in particular: it's fairly painful when unaware mappers and
server operators release or update maps (and other content) without
modifying the filename of the content. For maps this is particularly
destructive because many clients would be left unable to connect and play on
the server in question if the map differs from what the server is running.

Additionally, there are some documented cases of clients having their map
downloads not get fully completed or get into a corrupt state which is
equally as painful for the same reasons. Many users are simply unaware of
how to solve this problem by locating and deleting the files in question.

I'm sure this is something that can get an ideal solution, so I'd like to
propose a few:

1. If the content differs, force a redownload and overwrite the existing
file on the client. Now that clients have a separate search path for
downloaded content thanks to Fletcher's hard work in refactoring custom
content and downloads search paths, there's less risk to overwriting stock
game content.

2. Allow multiple downloads side-by-side, perhaps differing in filename by a
checksum (or some other recommendation). This would probably have to be
virtualized in some way so that the filesystem is aware of the actual name
of the map for soundscripts, particle manifests, etc.

This issue affects other content such as models and materials, but getting a
solution for at least map downloading would be a great step forward.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Fwd: Your Amazon.co.uk order of "Grey's Anatomy - Season 10..." has been dispatched

[Frank]

Please stop spamming this crap... why hasn’t' valve blocked this sender or 
senders is beyond me.

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Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 12:57 PM
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Subject: [hlds_linux] Fwd: Your Amazon.co.uk order of "Grey's Anatomy - Season 
10..." has been dispatched

:)


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Re: [hlds_linux] When the scream fortress update arrives...

[Frank]

+1 good idea..
Also Valve could you please for the love of God fix it so when you complete
a trade that you can click CLOSE vs having to X out of the window? I think
this has been broken for weeks now and I keep getting asked from clients
about if it's a server side issue or not when I know it isn't.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:44 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] When the scream fortress update arrives...

When you release the scream fortress update, can you please tell the
complete map name of the new map so we can easily configure our servers in
advance? Thanks.

-ics

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Anyone else having the issue with people putting up a vote for scramble
teams on the eventmix or mix of event maps for Halloween?

I got this in my config:
sv_vote_issue_scramble_teams_allowed 0
sv_vote_issue_restart_game_allowed 0
sv_vote_issue_changelevel_allowed 0
sv_vote_issue_nextlevel_choicesmode 0
sv_vote_issue_nextlevel_allowextend 0
sv_vote_issue_nextlevel_allowed 0

I could have sworn having them at 0 prevents them from launching that.. this
is the vote that you see very large left side with F1 or F2 for selection.
It's as if this is being bypassed even though the settings are 0



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Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months later

[Frank]

Perfect suggestion here +1 from me

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Alexander
Corn
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:38 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months later

This could be easily solved by simply enabling the box by default for a
player's first 5 hours or so of playtime, then unchecking it (or presenting
them with a dialog prompting them to disable it to check out the community
aspect of TF2, which they could decline).

McKay

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Stefan `Sec`
Zehl
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months later

Hi,

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:08 +0200, Emil Larsson wrote:
> I don't think people have a problem with that it's possible to select 
> Valve servers in quickplay, but rather that Valve servers is selected 
> by
default.
> By default it should be "any server" really, and then people can 
> customize that if they want to prefer valve of community servers.

I disagree. People who don't change settings and land on a bad server will
assume that Valve messed up. So it makes sense to put those players on
"default" servers.

Look, it's server owners who didn't play by the rules who created this
problem. Valve fixed it in the way they could do it without eating up way
more time&people resources. I like the situation now way better than before,
where I had to keep blacklists to even be able to play sanely.

> They also disabled the HTML motd if you joined through quickplay to 
> combat the ad-ridden servers, so that point is moot anyway.

This is also missing the point. Even while playing I can get several
annoying messages all over my screen (yes, they are text only, but no less
annoying) bothering me to pay for this oh-so-great server. This is nothing
anyone wants to see who hits quickplay.

CU,
Sec
--
stop reading here

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Ok I see this over on teamfortress.com... 

"Luckily, you can now play previous years' Halloween spectaculars to get
your shock tolerance up in advance of the update. Simply boot up the game,
hop into multiplayer and quickplay any of our past five Scream Fortress
updates. If you've missed out on previous Team Fortress Halloweens, or are
new to TF2 in general, this is a perfect time to catch up."

You direct people to Quickplay yet again this defaults directly to Valve
servers first! How about - Hop into multiplayer and search the server
browser instead? 
Also while on the subject is there a particular reason why I have players
screaming at me about drop rates for spells and such? I go to check on a few
of my servers last night to only get slammed by why gifts aren't dropping as
they used to and if there was something broken with the servers.




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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:58 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux
server mailing list; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version number is 2455651.

-Eric

-

- Scream Fortress Classic begins!
- In preparation for Scream Fortress 2014 we've enabled all previous
Halloween events
- Fixed The Larval Lid not using the correct Blue team material

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Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months later

[Frank]

Haven't you learned yet? Arguing with Dan on this is pointless and you are
more likely to get hit by lightning than have him understand and see the
facts.


-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:39 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months later

Most of them are either too stupid or don't care enough to play the game
long enough to explore for other things.

I've talked with many new players (usually because they add me to "sell"
stuff). A lot of them are not even aware that there's custom maps.
Simply because server browser is too hard to use/slow and there's no such
customization on quickplay.
Even old time players prefer to use quickplay when they want to feel good so
they can stomp on new players seen on valve servers.

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:30 PM, dan  wrote:

> On 14/10/2014 15:39, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek wrote:
>
>> I think it's about effectively distributing more diversity to make a 
>> game less blunt and show to players (new ones and old ones alike) 
>> that there's more to the game than meets the current quickplay-eye.
>>
>
> That just boils down to another "players are too dumb to find and 
> connect to the server they want to" fallacy.
>
> --
> Dan
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months later

[Frank]

I'd like to see someone at Valve reply to this subject and their future
intentions. 
Till then besides the reply I sent and the few I've read thus far that is
prob all I will pay attention to.

The ball is in your court Valve - how about taking a shot.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkkk
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 9:23 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months later

Every few weeks someone open a new thread about this (check archives), and I
haven't seen any of them go anywhere for now.

2014-10-02 15:15 GMT+02:00 Frank :

> That is kinda ignorant of a response when the topic is very concerning 
> to just about anyone that runs community servers.
>
> I agree that the quickplay changes should be done to reflect towards 
> community servers now vs Valve mostly since as noted that you won't 
> see a HTML MOTD when using Quickplay now anyway.
>
> Valve uses the community to make and create all these nice items they 
> are putting out lately...letting everyone else do their work for them 
> yet they won't recognize the help of the server side aspect of it and 
> push traffic towards them vs leaving them on a deserted island of 
> Valve (plain and
> bland)
> Servers.
>
> I'd love to see this change implemented for Halloween, hell I've been 
> running the Asteroid map 24/7 and I can't even find it on the 
> quickplay list if you go to select the map outside of Valve servers so 
> what is the point of me testing it?
>
> I don't see the discussion as spam at all, just more of a wakeup call 
> to Valve over a 6 year old game now supported mostly by the Community.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkkk
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 9:09 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months 
> later
>
> inb4 two weeks of spam.
>
> 2014-10-02 15:06 GMT+02:00 Andreas Willinger :
>
> > So, I am just wondering what happened to this statement:
> >
> >
> >
> > "At this time, we are keeping the default quickplay option to Valve 
> > servers.
> > However, note that if a player wants to find a server with any of 
> > the supported modifications, then they must land on a community 
> > server, since Valve servers do not run with these settings."
> >
> > Posted by Fletcher Dunn on February 8, 2014.
> >
> >
> >
> > The option is still defaulting to Valve servers, even though it's 
> > supposed to be "temporary" and the initial cause for this measure, 
> > Pinion spamming servers, have long disappeared/been reduced.
> >
> > Is there any official change planned to this setting or will it be 
> > that way till eternity?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months later

[Frank]

That is kinda ignorant of a response when the topic is very concerning to
just about anyone that runs community servers.

I agree that the quickplay changes should be done to reflect towards
community servers now vs Valve mostly since as noted that you won't see a
HTML MOTD when using Quickplay now anyway. 

Valve uses the community to make and create all these nice items they are
putting out lately...letting everyone else do their work for them yet they
won't recognize the help of the server side aspect of it and push traffic
towards them vs leaving them on a deserted island of Valve (plain and bland)
Servers.

I'd love to see this change implemented for Halloween, hell I've been
running the Asteroid map 24/7 and I can't even find it on the quickplay list
if you go to select the map outside of Valve servers so what is the point of
me testing it?

I don't see the discussion as spam at all, just more of a wakeup call to
Valve over a 6 year old game now supported mostly by the Community.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkkk
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 9:09 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months later

inb4 two weeks of spam.

2014-10-02 15:06 GMT+02:00 Andreas Willinger :

> So, I am just wondering what happened to this statement:
>
>
>
> "At this time, we are keeping the default quickplay option to Valve 
> servers.
> However, note that if a player wants to find a server with any of the 
> supported modifications, then they must land on a community server, 
> since Valve servers do not run with these settings."
>
> Posted by Fletcher Dunn on February 8, 2014.
>
>
>
> The option is still defaulting to Valve servers, even though it's 
> supposed to be "temporary" and the initial cause for this measure, 
> Pinion spamming servers, have long disappeared/been reduced.
>
> Is there any official change planned to this setting or will it be 
> that way till eternity?
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

That is stupid! The updates are for the game and Valve has no reason to
watch for options that when changed may cause Sourcemod problems!

Update and wait for SM to update like everyone else as there is nothing
wrong with the game itself.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Aridane
Manuel Ojeda Sánchez
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:27 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

DO NOT UPDATE!!  Another Sourcemod Problems...

2014-10-01 23:25 GMT+01:00 Eric Smith :

> We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update 
> are below. The new version number is 2426090.
>
> -Eric
>
> -
>
> - Improved memory usage for Mac clients
> - Fixed an exploit that allowed item nametags to go beyond the 40 
> character limit
> - Fixed a bug where reflected rocket explosions from non-stock 
> flamethrowers would cause the flame sound to loop
> - tf_teamtalk is now on by default - the dead can talk to the living
> - When you mute a player, the mute settings now apply to text chat as 
> well as voice chat. If you want the previous behavior, change convar 
> cl_mute_all_comms to 0.
> - More weapon models are now loaded on demand to reduce overall memory 
> usage
> - Added "Enable/Disable Auto TeamBalance" votes
> - Successful votes will enable/disable team player count balancing
> - Use sv_vote_issue_autobalance_allowed to control if this 
> vote is enabled on the server
> - Votes not allowed in Mann vs. Machine, Medieval mode, Arena 
> mode, Tournament Mode, or Training
> - Updated rd_asteroid
> - Increased overtime to 45 seconds
> - Added more sound cues when overtime starts
> - Dropped reactor cores now blink on the HUD when they are 
> about to return
> - Added latest art assets to blue base exterior
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Ok I just got this error tonight for the first time after this update

22:26:51 L 09/16/2014 - 21:27:17: *   ERROR: Publish timed out after 60
seconds.

Server just locked up - no auto restart either from crash.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:53 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Win32
server mailing list; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version number is 2404372.

-Eric

-

- Fixed a server crash related to the vote kick system

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Re: [hlds_linux] HLSW Alternatives

[Frank]

HLSW is good for mostly quick and simple management. I've tried to contact
their dev's a few times but no luck on any type of reply from any form of
contact.
The layout and amount of options it has available makes it nice to use so
any alternative needs to be as well developed and not just thrown together.


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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Gavin
Langdon
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 8:44 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] HLSW Alternatives

That's perfectly reasonable if you have direct access and don't want extra
functionality, but hlsw is nice because it allows multiple people with only
rcon to access the server, and displays useful info and options for
manipulating players and other aspects of the server.

sent from mobile
On Aug 29, 2014 8:39 PM, "Weasels Lair"  wrote:

> Eh, if it's a Linux-based TF2 server .. it's pretty easy.
> Use "screen" to run SCRCS as a detached back-ground process on a 
> "head-less" server.
> Make some scripts that do things like:
> 1) start the game (directly under SSH/console).
> 2) start the game under "screen" utility - giving it a name to 
> reconnect to later, etc.
> 3) send commands to a detached "screen" process.
> 4) shut-down the screened process.
> Use "webmin" to run those scripts from a browser, if you are too lazy 
> to do them under SSH.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Joey Benamy  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > HLSW is an application you install on your computer that allows you 
> > to administrate your Team Fortress 2 server remotely without having 
> > to have Team Fortress 2 open.  The application is no longer being 
> > developed and
> is
> > not open source, as far as I know.  Since the TF2 update that 
> > upgraded SteamIDs, the ban list in HLSW no longer works.  I was 
> > wondering if
> anybody
> > knew of any alternative remote admin tools that do regularly get
updated.
> > My server uses MetaMod and SourceMod, and I've updated MetaMod and 
> > SourceMod to the versions that temporarily fix the issues introduced 
> > by the TF2 update.
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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

[Frank]

You can't argue with him..I have no idea why I even replied.

You said it though "Default Quickplay Settings" - Valve needs to take the
default settings off of Valve servers as targets and apply them to the
Community servers or just mix them up so they are all showing up not just
Valve servers.


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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ilya Larin
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:21 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

dan, you don`t get the point of this discussion. While old bad servers are
full of players, new good servers can`t get players not because they are
bad, but because players don`t want to open server browser and look for a
good server. (Im not saying that all old servers are bad and all new servers
are good) New players don`t even know how to search a nice server, they are
not familiar with that. They are just using default quickplay settings. Old
players also don`t use serverbrowser, as they have already found a servers
community to regular on.


2014-08-27 19:06 GMT+04:00 dan :

> On 27/08/2014 15:59, Alexander Corn wrote:
>
>> How, exactly, do you expect people to get players on their servers 
>> when about 45% of people probably don't even know that the server 
>> browser exists?
>>
>
> Right, because only a guy who pretends to be a Doctor can be 
> intelligent enough to use the server browser.
>
> Sheesh, people were playing TF2 for years when the only way to get on 
> a server was with the browser.
> How do you suppose they did that? They were all gifted and talented?
>
> As I've said before, if you cannot join a server, ask and I'm sure 
> others will help you but don't keep repeating this ridiculous argument 
> that people can't join your server because they need to use the 
> browser.
>
> --
> Dan.
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

[Frank]

Pushing USA players to EU is a problem on its own that can be dealt with. 

You can make servers better but at the end of the day if Valve makes it
difficult for people to find them then there is no point. 
Options are auto checked for Valve servers, I have a Vanilla Asteroid server
up and it hardly ever gets touched when you have Valve Asteroid servers that
are slammed full.
This Asteroid server I have is better than a Valve server of equal location
and managed better. 

Nope - they need less Valve servers, lets push traffic to the Community -
the same community that is keeping the game alive. 


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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of dan
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:30 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

On 27/08/2014 15:14, Frank wrote:
> It would be nice to see Valve decrease the amount of Valve servers

No it wouldn't. It's already bad enough when USA players get put on European
servers with 150+ pings.

If anything they need a few more.

If you can't get players then make your servers better don't ask Valve to
force or push players onto your server.
--
Dan

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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

[Frank]

It would be nice to see Valve decrease the amount of Valve servers - perhaps
one of those guys will chime in here and let us know the current amount and
if they plan on decreasing any. A little help from Valve to push players to
Community servers would be nice. Issue is the constant complains and
bickering on SPUF when it comes to any change in this regard. They just
don't understand if it wasn't for the Community you wouldn't have a now 6
year old game as popular as it still is.


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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Alexander
Corn
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:32 AM
To: Paul Lewis; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

The Quickplay change was supposed to be a temporary measure, but it's not
looking very temporary while Valve servers suck up about 45% of traffic.


Dr. McKay
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

This change has broken so many things that I don't even know where to
begin who in their right mind decided to do this without any warning
what so ever needs to have their head examined!!


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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Gordon
Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:44 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

Today's Team Fortress 2 update says goodbye to the good old SteamIDs
(STEAM_0:1:15160181) and says hello to AccountIDs ([U:1:30320363]).

Sadly, this change breaks all things depending on SteamIDs (SourceMod,
custom ban systems, donator slots, rank systems, etc.)

https://twitter.com/SteamDB/status/502586107754999810
https://twitter.com/SteamDB/status/502586146623619074


On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Eric Smith  wrote:

> We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update 
> are below. The new version number is 2369699.
>
> -Eric
>
> -
>
> - Fixed rockets colliding with other projectiles and getting stuck in 
> the world
> - Fixed a bug with the Soldier's Fresh Brewed Victory taunt and the 
> Power Up Canteen
> - Fixed the Demoman not being able to equip The Grandmaster
> - Fixed a bug where Professional Killstreak items were being displayed 
> as Specialized
> - Market Listings for Specialized Killstreak kits for the following 
> items have been removed and will need to be relisted
> - Stickybomb Launcher, Minigun, Direct Hit, Huntsman, 
> Backburner, Back Scatter, Kritzkrieg, Ambassador, Frontier Justice
> - Fixed character audio being cut short when characters clap during 
> the Conga taunt
> - Unusual taunts that are tradable can now be listed on the Steam 
> Community Market
> - The Classic can now accept Enemies Gibbed strange parts
> - The Manmelter can now accept Allies Extinguished strange parts
> - Added mp_spectators_restricted server convar
> - Prevents players on Red/Blue from joining team 
> Spectator if it would exceed mp_teams_unbalance_limit
> - Updated the HTML display in the MOTD to use shared Steam browser 
> control
> - Updated the materials for The Dalokohs Bar
> - Updated the equip_region for the Soldier's Stash, Exquisite Rack, 
> The Pencil Pusher, and Antlers
> - Updated the localization files
> - Updated pl_cactuscanyon
> -Stage 1
> - Reworked the geometry of the back 
> stairwell route leading to the final cap
> -Stage 3
> - New design of back yard underpass area
> - Added new building and route near 
> the underpass
> - New geometry for Red battlements and 
> spawn exit by the first cap
> - Added new exit from Red spawn 
> leading to the raised middle rock outcrop by the barn
> - Reworked Red spawn exit by capture 
> point
> 2
> - Removed rocks and added a new 
> structure by the final cart push
> - Cart now takes longer to pass 
> through the building at the end of
> - Adjusted spawn times
> - Adjusted Health and ammo packs
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Yeah I just realized this a few minutes ago.. stupid me - carry on. :)

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 5:42 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

You're sending your messages to the Linux mailing list, Eric posted on the
Windows one.


2014-08-07 23:40 GMT+02:00 Frank :

> I apparently never got that email - must still be issues with the 
> mailing list, my bad just do keep that in mind next time.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of N-Gon
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 5:35 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
>
> He said they're on it
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Frank  wrote:
>
> > Hello?? I'm not the only one having this problem I know, I already 
> > see many posts on this over on Allied. Eric can you confirm there is 
> > a problem and a fix coming soon please?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Frank
> > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 5:23 PM
> > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
> >
> > Anyone else having trouble updating Windows servers going beyond 
> > Validating?
> > I can't even bypass that to start the engine without it going right 
> > to Validating again.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric 
> > Smith
> > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 4:54 PM
> > To: 'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com';
> > 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
> > Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
> >
> > We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update 
> > are below. The new version number is 2351233.
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> > -
> >
> > - Dedicated server performance/stability improvements
> > - Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
> > - Added missing photos/thumb images for koth_badlands
> > - Fixed a client crash related to the snd_restart command for Linux 
> > clients
> > - Fixed a dedicated server crash related to arrows
> > - Fixed the Bolt Boy using the wrong material for the Blu team
> > - Improved memory usage for Linux clients
> > - Updated the Restart Game and Scramble Teams votes to always have a 
> > mandatory cool-down period
> > - Updated sv_memlimit to not be marked as a cheat convar
> > - Added sv_minuptimelimit and sv_maxuptimelimit to manage 
> > the server restart window
> > - Updated the equip_regions for the Mustachioed Mann, Ze Ubermensch, 
> > and Vive La France
> > - Updated the localization files
> > - Updated pl_cactuscanyon
> > - Removed rollback leading to the final capture point in stage 2
> > - Reworked fence position on forward spawn building in stage 2
> > - Expanded back alley near the final capture point in stage 2
> > - Expanded back pathway near the final capture point in stage 1
> > - Added small room inside building half way up the zig-zag 
> > in stage
> > 1
> > - Adjusted health kits and ammo packs
> > - Adjusted spawn times in stage 1 and 2
> > - Updated rd_asteroid
> > - Widened left side spawn exit
> > - Players can no longer build inside the staircase near A robots
> > - Fixed sticky stair collision when coming out of the water 
> > near B robots
> > - Changed medium health kit near the C robots to a small 
> > health
> kit
> > - Removed "alert" from voice over lines that announce your 
> > team has dropped the reactor core
> > - Fixed missing patch overlay under small health near center 
> > bridge
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

I apparently never got that email - must still be issues with the mailing
list, my bad just do keep that in mind next time.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of N-Gon
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 5:35 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

He said they're on it


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Frank  wrote:

> Hello?? I'm not the only one having this problem I know, I already see 
> many posts on this over on Allied. Eric can you confirm there is a 
> problem and a fix coming soon please?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Frank
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 5:23 PM
> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
>
> Anyone else having trouble updating Windows servers going beyond 
> Validating?
> I can't even bypass that to start the engine without it going right to 
> Validating again.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric 
> Smith
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 4:54 PM
> To: 'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com'; 
> 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
> Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
>
> We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update 
> are below. The new version number is 2351233.
>
> -Eric
>
> -
>
> - Dedicated server performance/stability improvements
> - Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
> - Added missing photos/thumb images for koth_badlands
> - Fixed a client crash related to the snd_restart command for Linux 
> clients
> - Fixed a dedicated server crash related to arrows
> - Fixed the Bolt Boy using the wrong material for the Blu team
> - Improved memory usage for Linux clients
> - Updated the Restart Game and Scramble Teams votes to always have a 
> mandatory cool-down period
> - Updated sv_memlimit to not be marked as a cheat convar
> - Added sv_minuptimelimit and sv_maxuptimelimit to manage the 
> server restart window
> - Updated the equip_regions for the Mustachioed Mann, Ze Ubermensch, 
> and Vive La France
> - Updated the localization files
> - Updated pl_cactuscanyon
> - Removed rollback leading to the final capture point in stage 2
> - Reworked fence position on forward spawn building in stage 2
> - Expanded back alley near the final capture point in stage 2
> - Expanded back pathway near the final capture point in stage 1
> - Added small room inside building half way up the zig-zag in 
> stage
> 1
> - Adjusted health kits and ammo packs
> - Adjusted spawn times in stage 1 and 2
> - Updated rd_asteroid
> - Widened left side spawn exit
> - Players can no longer build inside the staircase near A robots
> - Fixed sticky stair collision when coming out of the water 
> near B robots
> - Changed medium health kit near the C robots to a small health
kit
> - Removed "alert" from voice over lines that announce your 
> team has dropped the reactor core
> - Fixed missing patch overlay under small health near center 
> bridge
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Hello?? I'm not the only one having this problem I know, I already see many
posts on this over on Allied. Eric can you confirm there is a problem and a
fix coming soon please?

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 5:23 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

Anyone else having trouble updating Windows servers going beyond Validating?
I can't even bypass that to start the engine without it going right to
Validating again.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 4:54 PM
To: 'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com';
'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version number is 2351233.

-Eric

-

- Dedicated server performance/stability improvements
- Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
- Added missing photos/thumb images for koth_badlands
- Fixed a client crash related to the snd_restart command for Linux clients
- Fixed a dedicated server crash related to arrows
- Fixed the Bolt Boy using the wrong material for the Blu team
- Improved memory usage for Linux clients
- Updated the Restart Game and Scramble Teams votes to always have a
mandatory cool-down period
- Updated sv_memlimit to not be marked as a cheat convar
- Added sv_minuptimelimit and sv_maxuptimelimit to manage the server
restart window
- Updated the equip_regions for the Mustachioed Mann, Ze Ubermensch, and
Vive La France
- Updated the localization files
- Updated pl_cactuscanyon
- Removed rollback leading to the final capture point in stage 2
- Reworked fence position on forward spawn building in stage 2
- Expanded back alley near the final capture point in stage 2
- Expanded back pathway near the final capture point in stage 1
- Added small room inside building half way up the zig-zag in stage
1
- Adjusted health kits and ammo packs
- Adjusted spawn times in stage 1 and 2
- Updated rd_asteroid
- Widened left side spawn exit
- Players can no longer build inside the staircase near A robots
- Fixed sticky stair collision when coming out of the water near B
robots
- Changed medium health kit near the C robots to a small health kit
- Removed "alert" from voice over lines that announce your team has
dropped the reactor core
- Fixed missing patch overlay under small health near center bridge

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Anyone else having trouble updating Windows servers going beyond Validating?
I can't even bypass that to start the engine without it going right to
Validating again.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 4:54 PM
To: 'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com';
'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version number is 2351233.

-Eric

-

- Dedicated server performance/stability improvements
- Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
- Added missing photos/thumb images for koth_badlands
- Fixed a client crash related to the snd_restart command for Linux clients
- Fixed a dedicated server crash related to arrows
- Fixed the Bolt Boy using the wrong material for the Blu team
- Improved memory usage for Linux clients
- Updated the Restart Game and Scramble Teams votes to always have a
mandatory cool-down period
- Updated sv_memlimit to not be marked as a cheat convar
- Added sv_minuptimelimit and sv_maxuptimelimit to manage the server
restart window 
- Updated the equip_regions for the Mustachioed Mann, Ze Ubermensch, and
Vive La France
- Updated the localization files
- Updated pl_cactuscanyon
- Removed rollback leading to the final capture point in stage 2
- Reworked fence position on forward spawn building in stage 2
- Expanded back alley near the final capture point in stage 2
- Expanded back pathway near the final capture point in stage 1
- Added small room inside building half way up the zig-zag in stage
1
- Adjusted health kits and ammo packs
- Adjusted spawn times in stage 1 and 2 
- Updated rd_asteroid
- Widened left side spawn exit
- Players can no longer build inside the staircase near A robots
- Fixed sticky stair collision when coming out of the water near B
robots
- Changed medium health kit near the C robots to a small health kit
- Removed "alert" from voice over lines that announce your team has
dropped the reactor core
- Fixed missing patch overlay under small health near center bridge

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Is it just me or can anyone else see or find thru Quickplay any Community
run servers that are running the Asteroid map? 
Reason I'm asking is cause I run one and no matter what I do I can't select
community servers on the beta maps such as this. 
If this is in fact the way it is can Valve please fix this so players can
also choose to avoid Valve servers if they would rather play on community
run servers.



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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 6:58 PM
To: 'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com';
'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version number is 2341822.

-Eric

-

- Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
- Fixed projectiles causing teleporter exits to detonate
- Fixed the Huntsman not firing after being charged in the air and landing
on the ground while using cl_autoreload
- Fixed teammates blocking the removal of sappers when using the
Homewrecker, Maul, and Neon Annihilator
- Fixed a bug with the Gloves of Running Urgently that increased the marked
for death time to 5 seconds instead of 3
- Fixed a bug related to orphaned marked for death particles
- Updated the target ID to be hidden while taunting
- Updated the Bolt Boy to have two styles like the Bonk Boy
- Updated the equip_regions for the Bonk Boy and the Bolt Boy
- Updated the materials for the Boo Balloon
- Updated pl_cactuscanyon
- Added stage 3
- Limited Red flanking route near cliff to Blu spawn in stage 1
- Added health and ammo inside underpass by Blu spawn in stage 1
- Adjusted spawn times in stage 2
- Adjusted health and ammo packs 
- Updated rd_asteroid
- Mode changes
- Updated HUD layout
- Fixed a bug that would prevent players from picking up the
reactor core
- Teams will now spawn 70% faster if their C robots are dead

- Map changes
- Fixed unbalanced ammo kits in Blu base near the vault
- Added flashing light in the vault that will activate when
a player is stealing points
- Added larger one way glass windows to spawn exit doors
- Added small ammo pack to top of the stairs at the cave
exit
- Shortened length of pipes in vents that require players to
crouch
- Increased track length for A robots. This is to provide
more angles of attack.
- Extended flat area near left spawn exit for Engineers to
build teleporters
- Lowered the health for the A robots from 500 to 300
- Fixed a bug where the power supply would not disable the
flashing alarms when it was captured

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[hlds_linux] Asteroid console spam

[Frank]

Is anyone else seeing this type of spam on the console from the new Asteroid
map? I'm running it on a 24/7 server but when its empty for a few hours it
seems to flood the console with the same type messages over and over again.

 

Bad SetLocalAngles<0.0,-360014,50,0.00> on
blue_bot1b_spawn_robot 

 

Etc etc etc as seen in the picture.it just never stops till you restart the
server or the map maybe, didn't try that but still it's likely an issue with
this map.

Screen shot of it below:

 

http://i.imgur.com/5Q7ZyqK.jpg

 

 

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update coming

[Frank]

Well ok then...guess the other wasn't all that important

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 10:42 PM
To: 'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com'; h...@list.valvesoftware.com;
hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update coming

We're working on a mandatory update for TF2. We should have it ready very
soon. 

-Eric


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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

I see them but I only see Valve Beta Servers - I can't seem to find a way to
select Community run Asteroid servers thru the quick play menu.

In fact I can't seem to select Community run pl_cactuscanyon servers
either... this is why Community servers should have been prechecked by
default or at least have that option show up clear as a bell first.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:42 PM
To: 'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com'; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

There are lots of Asteroid servers in the list of quickplay servers. I'm not
sure why you aren't seeing them.

-Eric


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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ross Bemrose
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:38 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list;
'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

Is there a reason rd_asteroid isn't appearing in the Beta Quickplay?  
You can only find servers with pl_cactuscanyon on it.

On 7/8/2014 6:55 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version number is 2314660.
>
> -Eric
>
> -
>
> - Added Mann Co. Beta Maps - Early Access program
>   - Added 2 new beta maps: RD_Asteroid and PL_CactusCanyon
>   - Beta maps can be accessed via the quickplay menu by clicking the
Play Beta Maps option
> - Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
> - Added UGC Highlander Season 12, UGC 6v6 Season 14, UGC 4v4 Season 1, and
Tumblr Vs Reddit Season 2 medals
> - Fixed the server browser not properly filtering for the "US - East"
region when selected
> - Fixed a bug where players that are taunting would not use the correct
animation
> - Fixed Australium weapons using the incorrect arm skin for the Blue team
> - Fixed Mutated Milk not being a valid item for the Scout's Special
Delivery item set
> - Fixed The Stealth Steeler not using the correct team materials
> - Fixed some festive weapons using the lowest LOD for the first person
view
> - Minigun: Winding up via secondary attack now counts toward reducing the
one-second accuracy penalty
> - Updated the equip_regions for The Southie Shinobi, The Chronomancer, and
The Pencil Pusher
> - Updated the localization files
> - Updated The Towering Pillar of Summer Shades
>   - Fixed not using the correct team materials
>   - Updated to be paintable
>
> - Reminder - Bread Boxes can no longer be crafted after tomorrow (July
9th)
>   - Craft them via the crafting system (Items->Crafting->Special
Blueprint->Fabricate Bread Box)
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released (2015-06-26) = more client-side issues?

[Frank]

I've seen this before this update but its been very rare on myself and has
happened twice to me alone in the last few weeks.

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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:11 PM
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Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released (2015-06-26) = more
client-side issues?

Hmmm.. trying to figure-out if this is just my TF2 server(s), or something
bigger.
But, ever since today's update - I'm a getting a lot of issues with client
connections timing-out, etc.
The server never crashes - it just keeps running.
But the clients get the "connection problem" warning in the upper-right for
several seconds (5-20), then (mostly) get back in without having to
disconnect/reconnect.

Anybody else experiencing a lot of this since today's update?

PS: For me this is under Linux (Debian).



[hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released Eric Smith Thu, 26 Jun 2014
16:22:25 -0700

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below.
The new version number is 2298883.

-Eric

-
- Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
- Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper
- Fixed an exploit related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper and supply cabinets
- Updated the B.A.S.E. Jumper backpack to use an open model when the
parachute is deployed
- Fixed a few crates not displaying which Unusual Series they can
potentially output
- Fixed a client crash caused by applying a tool to an empty backpack slot
- Removed the shot effect for The Classic in DirectX 8
- Updated the name of The Senguko Scorcher to be The Sengoku Scorcher
- Updated the Summer Starter Kit and Summer Adventure Pack to be marketable
- Updated the localization files
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Re: [hlds_linux] String table overflow and other errors

[Frank]

Yep I reported this to the list yesterday I think. The error isn't so much
as crashing servers but its causing them to basically crash clients and then
sometimes the server won't allow players to enter and will give this error
unless map is reset.

This should be an easy fix since its already an issue that was addressed, I
hope its patched today rather than have it spoil the whole weekend.

Also what is going on with the Item server? I've had so many of my players
complain and just stop playing because of it. 

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Bottiger
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 3:41 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] String table overflow and other errors

Just like when MvM was released we are seeing this error return.

Host_Error: Overflow error writing string table baseline GameRulesCreation

Clients are also crashing with

Overflowed reliable buffer

when everyone is doing the congo.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

This may also be the cause of the returning "Buffer Overflow" client
crashing I've noticed a few times across a few Windows servers. I'm unable
to verify this against any Linux based at this point.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Stecker
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:23 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

Any chance of looking into perf issues when a full server gets in the middle
of a conga taunt? Haven't had a chance to run any vprof profiling, but the
netgraph shows large spikes in what seems to be sounds, and it's followed by
lots of client choke.

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595914029621586770/63623EC5F08542EB923A7
DED740B2A2539227025/


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Eric Smith  wrote:

> We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update 
> are below. The new version number is 2290967.
>
> -Eric
>
> -
>
> - Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
> - Added a crafting recipe for The Back Scatter
> - Fixed a client crash caused by Strange Fists
> - Fixed players using the partner taunts to enter enemy spawn rooms
> - Fixed a regression with the Disco Beat Down unusual effect
> - Fixed The Classic automatically zooming in after going through a 
> teleporter while charging
> - Updated The Tide Turner to also refill the charge meter from impact 
> kills
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Was there a reason to remove the so called "Spycrab" taunt when using the
disguise kit from the spy?

I don't believe this was planned, what is the word on this if it was or
wasn't?


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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 4:16 PM
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'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
(hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com)
Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version number is 2274941.

-Eric

-

- Fixed item descriptions for Strange scores not appearing to update
- Fixed a bug where damage dealt and healing done Strange scores would stop
incrementing
- Fixed an exploit where teleporters could build up a large amount of health
- Fixed a bug where premium accounts would temporarily appear to revert to
free status
- Fixed deflected rocket explosion sounds playing repeatedly
- Fixed deflected Black Box rockets not giving health to the Pyro
- Fixed being able to apply the Strange Part: Buildings Destroyed tool to
the Flying Guillotine
- Fixed several cosmetic items not cloaking properly for the Spy
- Added the AsiaFortress Cup Season 7 medals
- Community Request: Added SetCustomUpgradesFile input to the gamerules
entity to allow servers to specify a different upgrades file
- Updated the localization files
- Updated the Eureka Effect
 - Can now pickup buildings
 - Repair and upgrade rates have been decreased
 - Can teleport to your spawn room or your Teleporter Exit


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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates for TF2, CS:S, DoD:S, and HL2:DM released

[Frank]

- Updated the plugin_load command
 - Servers can only load plugins if they are not running a map
 - Clients can only load plugins if they are not connected to a server


Ok this part right here, What does this mean and would this explain why I
now have several plugins that won't load from SM??


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Re: [hlds_linux] Unannounced TF2 update? or something else going-on?

[Frank]

I ran a check on one server - just validated everything with no update so
not sure what you saw but the likely hood of Valve releasing an update to
TF2 on a weekend let alone Easter Weekend is about the same as me getting
struck by lightning several times in 1 day.


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Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 5:47 PM
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Subject: [hlds_linux] Unannounced TF2 update? or something else going-on?

I don't actually see any announcement in TF2 update page about an update.
 But, my Steam client today said that it needed to download and install a
TF2 update.  So, I let that commence, and went to check my TF2 servers.

On the server side, it looked like there was about ~100-MB of stuff to
download, but it errored-out.  Then, I noticed the client-side update
errored-out also.

I ran the update on the server-side again, and this time it said "Success!
App '232250' already up to date." - as if there was no longer any mystery
~100-MB update?  Thankfully, I didn't run this against my production servers
yet - just a test instance.

The client-side update keeps cycling between "Updating" and "Queued" like
repeatedly in a way I have not seen before.

I am hoping this is not a repeat of what happened to Counter-Strike the
other day - or anything remotely similar?
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[hlds_linux] Item server issues still??

[Frank]

Ok over the last few weeks EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND, I see clients complaining
about not being able to trade and item server issues pretty much all weekend
and every weekend. This even happened over the past week several times. Now
this may sound like a client complaint cause well it is sorta but for many
people this is very important when running servers as the player counts will
differ depending on if they can access the item server or not. I'm seeing no
drops thru the console so I'm not seeing this as an issue I can control.

 

Is anyone else seeing this problem and how its effecting player counts?

 

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Does not work everytime and isn't working this time I can assure you that.
I've just told them they will have to wait - no idea what the server is
doing to give updates out but I've yet to have them myself and its damn
annoying when I can't get in to test my servers myself.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Dautermann
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:19 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

Check your game files then it automaticly updates, thats how i did it.

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 12.02.2014 um 02:08 schrieb Ilya Larin :
> 
> Confirmed, my client doesn`t recieve the update too
> 
> 
> 2014-02-12 5:07 GMT+04:00 Frank :
> 
>> I'm finally able to get servers updated but clients are not able to 
>> get updates as in my own or a few of my regulars have informed me. 
>> They keep launching the game with no luck of obtaining the update.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle 
>> Sanderson
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:39 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
>> 
>> The only reason I can think of is they're missing the old Steam2 
>> style of server updating.
>> 
>> Kyle.
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Ryan Stecker 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>> I do have to ask, though: why are TF2 updates released exactly 
>>> during the Tuesday Steam prop?
>>> 
>>> Surely they could be timed to occur long before or long after to 
>>> avoid the confusion present in this series of email posts.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Nomaan Ahmad 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think steam servers are having some problem...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12 February 2014 00:28, louloubizou  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> we cant update in anonymous now 
>>>>> 

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

I'm finally able to get servers updated but clients are not able to get updates 
as in my own or a few of my regulars have informed me. They keep launching the 
game with no luck of obtaining the update.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:39 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

The only reason I can think of is they're missing the old Steam2 style of 
server updating.

Kyle.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Ryan Stecker  wrote:
> I do have to ask, though: why are TF2 updates released exactly during 
> the Tuesday Steam prop?
>
> Surely they could be timed to occur long before or long after to avoid 
> the confusion present in this series of email posts.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Nomaan Ahmad  wrote:
>
>> I think steam servers are having some problem...
>>
>>
>> On 12 February 2014 00:28, louloubizou  wrote:
>>
>> > we cant update in anonymous now 
>> >
>> > Redirecting stderr to '/root/Steam/logs/stderr.txt'
>> > [  0%] Checking for available updates...
>> > [] Verifying installation...
>> > Steam Console Client (c) Valve Corporation
>> > -- type 'quit' to exit --
>> > Loading Steam3...OK.
>> > Loading Steam2...OK.
>> > login anonymous
>> > Connecting anonymously to Steam Public...Login Failure: No 
>> > Connection Failed.
>> > force_install_dir servers/tf_ds
>> > app_update 232250 validate
>> > ERROR! Failed to request AppInfo update, not online or not logged 
>> > in to Steam.
>> > quit
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-02-12 1:24 GMT+01:00 Eric Smith :
>> >
>> > > We've released a mandatory TF2 update. The notes for the update 
>> > > are
>> > below.
>> > > The new version is 2112877.
>> > >
>> > > -Eric
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > - Fixed an infinite ÜberCharge exploit related to loadout presets
>> > > - Fixed a case where players that are the target of a vote kick 
>> > > would
>> not
>> > > be banned from the server
>> > > - Fixed a Quickplay crash for Linux clients
>> > > - Fixed Linux servers getting disconnected from Steam when 
>> > > multiple servers are run from the same IP
>> > > - Fixed taunts not previewing in the character loadout screen 
>> > > after
>> being
>> > > equipped
>> > > - Fixed the High-Five! taunt not hiding the Engineer's weapon
>> > > - Fixed some missing knobs on the level 2 dispenser
>> > > - Fixed being able to jarate invulnerable targets with the Sydney
>> Sleeper
>> > > - Lugermorph Killstreakifier can now be applied to all Lugermorph 
>> > > guns
>> > > - Updated several cosmetic items that were missing an item_type
>> > description
>> > > - Updated several cosmetic items to count as assisters in 
>> > > Pyrovision
>> > > - Updated the Medi-Mask to use equip_region beard instead of face
>> > > - Quickplay: Added option to search for "nodmgspread" servers
>> > > - Quickplay: Removed disabling of non-vanilla option radio 
>> > > buttons when official servers are selected
>> > >
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Re: [hlds_linux] Important changes to TF2 coming soon

[Frank]

I agree here, the "official servers" box needs to be UNCHECKED by default
not the other way around. This needs to take effect with the update tomorrow
to go ahead and fix this problem as so many have expressed over the last
week.

This wasn't even mentioned by Fletch in the recent mails tonight or from
anyone at Valve over the course of this past week and the countless mails
sent thru this mailing list from the majority of owners not happy about it.
The data shows it causes issues when left checked by default - just uncheck
it and let people decide after the fact.


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If the default "official servers" box isn't going to be removed, community
servers will still be cut off from the majority of new players, whether they
qualify or not. The new guidelines for quickplay also make it impossible for
server owners to support or stand out.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Fletcher - I'm Calling you Out On This (Enough is Enough)

[Frank]

Valve created steam groups, ways for people to join communities and many
many people take advantage of this to be a part of something.
This act of being a part of something adds depth to the game and that is
what communities have to offer.

This change Valve did needs to go - period. 
I'm with the rest here, there needs to be a response from Valve and soon not
just do the norm of releasing an update and then go away for the weekend
leaving everyone hanging.


_
It's a changing demographic - people just want to play videogames, not
really sign up for a whole 'favorite server loyalty program'.

And who cares if our servers "die out"? What are we out? Ego?




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Re: [hlds_linux] Prevent game servers from redirecting players to alternate servers when players connect through quickplay

[Frank]

Unchecking the box by default is the only option aside from remove this
added feature.
Type up a bunch of a response all you want but my first reply to this is
just that - it needs to go.

Ohh chocolate cake tastes good and I just made one while running my servers
:)


_
I just joined a valve server with quickplay and 'official servers' 
checked to play 2fort.

The experience of joining is pretty good. Fast and I got a server with a low
ping that played well.

All I can say to the folks here is though, if you can't compete with a Valve
server, switch off your servers and bake cakes to sell because you're in the
wrong game.

It was a complete farce. Barely anyone knew how to cap, where to cap, or
what the objectives were. Neither team had any defence, certainly no
engineers.

I was told what I was doing was "impossible" (i.e shooting nades at people
and hitting them)

So, relax. No one who sits facing the shiny side of their monitor will  be
playing on Valve servers via quickplay for any length of time because the
servers are swamped with the confused and bewildered.

You can (as I have in the past) jump from valve server to valve server and
find a decent round, but you'd spend all day doing that with the quickplay
button joining random servers.

Who knows, perhaps the official checkbox will mix up the player base and
change that, but right now that doesn't appear to be the case.
--
Dan

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Re: [hlds_linux] Prevent game servers from redirecting players to alternate servers when players connect through quickplay

[Frank]

I agree with this 100% - WHY??
Having this to start with is a community killer then you tack on having it
checked by default. 

I don't think Valve understands that without the support of communities the
player counts for games like TF2 will start to diminish much faster, faster
than they can produce more pointless additions to the game. My only hope is
this change is reverted asap and the future shows more community support
well before they release a new character to play as. 




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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Doctor McKay
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:12 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] Prevent game servers from redirecting players to
alternate servers when players connect through quickplay

Why?

Adding a "Valve servers only" checkbox (that's checked by default) is going
to hurt enough (and only those communities that are playing by the rules;
cheating communities will just steal *more* traffic from the legitimate
communities).

It's now all but impossible to try to retain a client who joined via
Quickplay (and those are the clients we *need* to retain). We can't show
them our website. We can't even allow them to use a menu to jump to another
one of our servers anymore.

Please think about what you're doing. If your intention is to harm the good
communities, you're doing a fine job at it.

Dr. McKay
www.doctormckay.com
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Re: [hlds_linux] Game launch errors

[Frank]

Anyone know the answer to this problem or is this just something that
players have to live with?
I keep getting reports on it from my clients/players but I have no answer
for them. Everything server side appears fine and this doesn't appear to be
happening when on any server just when the client starts up TF2 or the game.


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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:28 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] Game launch errors

I'm getting a lot of reports from some of my users and I'm not seeing as
this being server related as of now but something weird is going on.

 

Can someone from Valve reply back with how to tell people to solve this
problem? Many just said it started out of the blue about a few updates ago.

 

 

 

Gameoverlayui.exe has stopped working

 

Problem signature:

  Problem Event Name: APPCRASH

  Application Name: GameOverlayUI.exe

  Application Version: 2.6.70.5

  Application Timestamp:  52cc5ebc

  Fault Module Name:libcef.dll

  Fault Module Version: 1.1025.1248.0

  Fault Module Timestamp:  5279720e

  Exception Code: 8003

  Exception Offset:   0002ff70

  OS Version:  6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48

  Locale ID:   1033

  Additional Information 1:   0a9e

  Additional Information 2:   0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

  Additional Information 3:   0a9e

  Additional Information 4:   0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

 

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[hlds_linux] Game launch errors

[Frank]

I'm getting a lot of reports from some of my users and I'm not seeing as
this being server related as of now but something weird is going on.

 

Can someone from Valve reply back with how to tell people to solve this
problem? Many just said it started out of the blue about a few updates ago.

 

 

 

Gameoverlayui.exe has stopped working

 

Problem signature:

  Problem Event Name: APPCRASH

  Application Name: GameOverlayUI.exe

  Application Version: 2.6.70.5

  Application Timestamp:  52cc5ebc

  Fault Module Name:libcef.dll

  Fault Module Version: 1.1025.1248.0

  Fault Module Timestamp:  5279720e

  Exception Code: 8003

  Exception Offset:   0002ff70

  OS Version:  6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48

  Locale ID:   1033

  Additional Information 1:   0a9e

  Additional Information 2:   0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

  Additional Information 3:   0a9e

  Additional Information 4:   0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

 

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Re: [hlds_linux] Map structure/Building Cube maps

[Frank]

Ok that worked on where the data is stored, is there a way to make the data
last longer or the files to remain in place so I can obtain them?

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 3:37 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Map structure/Building Cube maps

I think the cubemap data is stored in tf/materials/maps if i remember
correctly. After it's there and cubemaps are built, they are saved to the
bsp. I got some error on my old pc upon that event and it always failed. I
could have packed them manually with pakrat or similiar but i didn't trust
they would work from there. So i had friend build them for me and it worked
fine.

Now of course, it works as it should.

-ics


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Re: [hlds_linux] Map structure/Building Cube maps

[Frank]

Tried this on two different PC's of my own and another tried it still not
working. Now I did test against a few older style maps and they built just
fine. The issue appears to resolve around the map then. Would be some causes
as to why they won't write to the BSP and last is where to find them when
they are written by TF2 as where the cubemap data is stored till the write
is done? Perhaps we can pull it manually and add it manually to the map.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 12:03 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Map structure/Building Cube maps

I had issues building cubemaps on my old pc. They got built but the game
never saved them at the bsp file itself. Never could find a way to fix it.
New pc now, no problems.

-ics

Frank kirjoitti:
> This didn't work, any other suggestions?
>
> I even tried a few older maps but it just feels as if something with
> steam/tf2 isn't working properly to build them?



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Re: [hlds_linux] Map structure/Building Cube maps

[Frank]

This didn't work, any other suggestions?

I even tried a few older maps but it just feels as if something with
steam/tf2 isn't working properly to build them?

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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:35 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Map structure/Building Cube maps

If you can make out my notes to self, see if this may help.

Compile and load your map.

mat_specular 0

This turns off reflections.

buildcubemaps

The game will pause for a second, and lots of little pictures will flash up
the top of the screen.

disconnect

If you are not using HDR, you can step to step 11

mat_hdr_level 0

Turn off HDR.

map "your_map_name"

Load the map again

buildcubemaps

disconnect

mat_specular 1

mat_hdr_level 2

map "cp_dustbowl"

We need to load another map, to clear the caches of your map contents,
otherwise it will not reload any of the cubemaps.
Disconnect again, and load up your map. Enjoy!




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[hlds_linux] Map structure/Building Cube maps

[Frank]

I'm having issues trying to run another map on my servers and building cube
maps, basically they are not building at all so I can't get the glossy feel
to the map like I want. At first I thought this was a server issue however
not showing up in any form.

 

Does anyone at Valve or on this mailing list have any idea why or a
solution?

 

Also to note: I'm following this wiki just as I've always done in the past -
so something has changed recently.

 

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Cubemaps

 

 

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Every year is the same thing, we spend 2-3 days if not longer thru several
updates to fix issues from this and other large updates like it. Never in
the last few years have they ever extended the event just for this although
I agree I believe they should. Issue I have with just even asking is the
event itself was delayed way too long and too close to Halloween (which is
now gone). The Xmas update IMO should be released no later than the 2nd week
of December to at least give the holiday feel as with most of us we can't
wait for the 25th to come and go - at least that is how I feel, too much
holiday food will kill anyone.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Garcia
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 10:04 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

Eric,

Due to issues with the server and client binaries these past two days:
shouldn't the Halloween event be extended for 2 or 3 more days to compensate
the users?

Sincerely,
Bruno



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Re: [hlds_linux] tf2 halloween event 2013 ETA ?

[Frank]

I asked for this last week, didn't get it. 
My only hope is they release it in the next few hours and not 9pm EST which
means any quick bug fixes won't be till tomorrow.

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Subject: [hlds_linux] tf2 halloween event 2013 ETA ?

an ETA ? :)
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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Family Sharing Ban Bypass.

[Frank]

Been trying to follow this discussion, sounds interesting no matter what
comes however I know myself and the other server owners are really wanting
to know of the impending ETA of the Halloween 2013 Event? Year after year we
have to spend the next 24hours trying to adjust and fix things that get
broken by this update so a little information for an ETA would be helpful
and would certainly make all of SPUF happy in the process. 

I've seen suggestions tossed around to keep this game going strong into the
next few years but the biggest suggestion of them all was to add a new
character to the game. Not only would this spur a major creation of new maps
to revolve around it but the items and functions of not only that new
character but the others would be wide open for additions. This in turn
keeps a major source of funding to Valve from the store purchases but also
the player base which is still very strong happy for a few more years.

That last paragraph I figured I'd toss in from what I've been reading around
but the main question remains: Possible ETA of the Halloween 2013 Event
please?

Thanks

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle
Sanderson
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:20 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux
server mailing list; csgo_serv...@list.valvesoftware.com
Cc: alf...@valvesoftware.com; tft...@valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Family Sharing Ban Bypass.

In case anyone is following this, there's a WebAPI update planned for next
week which allows for getting the owner's account from a lender id.

There's also a Steamworks update planned for between yesterday and (?),
which adds the owner's id to the ticket verification result
(ValidateAuthTicketResponse_t). However, this is too late for servers to get
the owner's id. SourceMod at the moment supports checking if they're
verified (by not handing out admin before IsClientFullyAuthenticated
happens). However, this happens far too late in the process (30 seconds
typically to a couple minutes, to never if Steam is down), subsequently most
servers (to my knowledge) have the feature disabled (or at least want it
disabled; from the threads I've seen).

After the Steamworks update happens, I believe we need the owner's accountid
passed to the server at the same time as the actual rendered SteamID (how it
is at the moment, sent from the client at connection time).
This should allow for the same verification result as
IsClientFullyAuthenticated, and pre-usage that most of the engine does.
This should continue to allow for immediate usage, which is what is used
now.

A public engine function would be appreciated to get the owner's account id
(or rendered SteamID, as to conform with everything else). Unless if I'm
neglecting something major, this should resolve the exploit for everyone as
clients are updated to support sending the supposed ownerid.

Thanks,
Kyle.




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Re: [hlds_linux] Add something to the game so that server ops can ban HWID too.

[Frank]

I would love to see Valve finally step up after all these years and let you
assign an IP#/port directly to a domain and change it with it to carry over
upon a needed change. 

I've had to do an IP# change about several months ago and the server was
widely popular, still is but people are still to this day coming in and
saying "Wow I lost it on my friends list/history and I just thought it died
and I didn't know you guys had a website blah blah blah.." Same thing over
and over again yet they wouldn't have missed a beat had we had this support
years ago.

As for the main discussion on HWID, I don't have that much of an issue to
need this not sure there is a huge need either.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Wow.. I thought you guys gave up on TF2 since this is the first release of
any update in weeks.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
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Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version is 1875461.

-Eric

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- Updated the localization files


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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] TF2: New exploit in today's update

[Frank]

Lots of things to be addressed for sure - but I'll tell you what. The change
to needles on the crossbow was just flat out stupid. It is called a
"CROSSBOW" for a reason which I've yet to fire a needle out of mine so why
Valve..what was the purpose on screwing with that besides the fact that it
broke when you play with it on MvM and looks like laser beams from rapid
fire.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update coming soon

[Frank]

No.. apparently there is an issue as mine are locking up as soon as someone
joins.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Gordon
Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:16 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update coming soon

Is SM and MM fine? I saw someone join my server and then it crashed, but I'm
not in a position to test it out myself.


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Tom Grant  wrote:

> The big boy!
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Eric Smith 
> wrote:
>
> > Here are the notes for the update.
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> > --
> >
> > General:
> >
> > - Added over 60 Gold Star community-submitted Workshop items
> > - Summer Claim Checks can now be redeemed for Summer Coolers
> > - Summer Cooler Keys are now available in the Mann Co. Store
> > - Map Stamps and Strange Filters for the new community maps 
> > cp_standin
> and
> > cp_process are now available in the Mann Co. Store
> >
> > - Reduced intensity of Bleed and Jarate screen effects under DX8
> > - Added text search functionality to the backpack and the store
> > - Added tf_hud_show_servertimelimit to display the server's per-map 
> > time limit on the in-game HUD
> > - In MvM, if all team members unready, the pre-round countdown will 
> > stop
> > - In MvM, when robots are killed by sniper headshots or explosive
> headshot
> > upgrade, they will drop 'red' money that will automatically be 
> > collected when it would otherwise dissolve
> > - Fixed a bug with the Unusual Adjustment Slider that would cause 
> > changes not to take effect
> > - Double-clicking a crate will now take you to the appropriate key 
> > in the store
> > - By default, items with non-standard qualities (ie., strange, 
> > unusual) will not be selectable as craft ingredient. The ingredient 
> > selection UI
> has
> > a checkbox to disable this feature and allow selection.
> > - Unusuals and Stranges no longer stack in loadout equip pages
> > - Fixed a bug that would sometimes cause incorrect Steam Community 
> > Market prices to be shown on item tooltips when using non-USD 
> > currencies
> > - Fixed a bug that would cause the popular items page in the store 
> > to not always update correctly
> > - Fixed a bug where disguised red spies spawned a blue heal particle 
> > when touching healthkits
> > - Fixed a bug where certain projectiles and Engineer building gibs 
> > could cause doors to become stuck
> > - Fixed a bug where crouch animations would not properly play while 
> > in humiliation state
> > - Fixed a bug where full ÜberCharge effects would always show on the 
> > client if a player was killed with full ÜberCharge
> > - Fixed a bug that allowed custom item names/descriptions containing 
> > HTML to sometimes change the appearance of items in Steam Community
> > - Fixed level 3 dispensers missing geometry
> > - Fixed level 2 dispensers appearing identical to level 1 dispensers 
> > at certain LODs
> > - Fixed the Marked-For-Death effect showing over the head of 
> > disguised or stealthed players
> > - Fixed suicide deathnotices showing the dead player's last deployed 
> > weapon instead of the skull and crossbones
> > - Fixed characters in the loadout page sometimes appearing as if 
> > they
> were
> > cloaked
> > - Weapon attributes will now show in the same order in-game and in 
> > Steam Community
> > - Support for the ITFItems/GetPlayerItems and ITFItems/GetSchema 
> > WebAPIs have been removed
> >
> > Maps:
> >
> > - Added cp_standin and cp_process
> > - Renamed mvm_coaltown_event to mvm_ghost_town to fix a problem with 
> > voting for challenges in MvM when on Coal Town
> >
> > - cp_badlands
> >   - Fixed jumps being ruined by small rock ledge near spiral
> >   - Fixed prop collisions
> >   - Fixed clip smoothing
> > - cp_dustbowl
> >   - Fixed players building in Blu's first spawn
> >   - Fixed players shooting through rocks in stage 2
> >   - Fixed collision in tunnels in stage 2
> >   - Fixed textures not displaying properly in Pyrovision
> >   - Fixed lighting on cliff faces
> >   - Fixed skybox error in stage 3.
> >   - Fixed players getting killed through the ceiling under stage 2 cap 1
> >   - Adjusted ceiling height in stage 3 tunnel for better clearance
> >   - Cleaned up prop collision
> > - cp_egypt
> >   - Fixed clip brush exploits
> >   - Players can no longer build on top of arches and high ledges
> > - cp_gorge
> >   - Players can no longer build in Blu's first spawn room
> >   - Changed scale of water texture
> > - cp_granary
> >   - Fixed improper orientation on arrow signs
> >   - Fixed players getting above red forward spawn
> >   - Fixed players building on cargo containers inside spawn room
> >   - Fixed holes in skybox geometry
> >   - Removed collision from hanging lamp over Red spawn
> >   - Removed collision from security

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Lol what? I deleted the link before I replied so it didn't continue to be
posted in the mailing list or carried over but doesn't matter its already
out there.

Not sure why you even questioned what I did, pay attention to the issue at
hand.


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eli Witt
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:06 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

... you deleted a link from someone else's email?

No, no you didn't.

Do you know how email works?


On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Frank  wrote:

> I deleted the link as to not fuel the fire but for something like this 
> in the future just email the Valve guys directly and not to everyone 
> and I do mean EVERYONE as every person on SPUF and then some has 
> access to this mailing list so unless Valve intends to come into work 
> this weekend servers are now screwed for the next 2-3+ days.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of martin 
> v
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:31 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
>
> Nice new way to crash a server after last update(s?).
> Requires 2x spy. 1spy with tape recorder, 2nd spy with normal saper. 
> 1x sentry or 1x tele or 1x disp. Spys should put their sappers in the 
> same time to 1 building. ABRA-CADABRA! CRASH!
> SUCKS ASS!.
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

I deleted the link as to not fuel the fire but for something like this in
the future just email the Valve guys directly and not to everyone and I do
mean EVERYONE as every person on SPUF and then some has access to this
mailing list so unless Valve intends to come into work this weekend servers
are now screwed for the next 2-3+ days.


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of martin v
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:31 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

Nice new way to crash a server after last update(s?).
Requires 2x spy. 1spy with tape recorder, 2nd spy with normal saper. 1x
sentry or 1x tele or 1x disp. Spys should put their sappers in the same time
to 1 building. ABRA-CADABRA! CRASH!
SUCKS ASS!.


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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Was this fix to be pushed out today or did I miss it last night as I've not
seen one.

Not sure if its related but when you are viewing the kits and let's say you
are using a scorching effect it looks all blocky over the head or hat.
I've not seen this cause a crash but just throwing it out there if we are
still waiting on this perhaps its tied in together or something else needed
to be addressed.



-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:55 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux
server mailing list (hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com)
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

We're fixing a client crash for clients that use custom HUDs. Some of the
custom HUD authors have already released fixes, but we'll have a client fix
released soon.

-Eric


From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Navetta
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 5:53 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

It might just be me, but now whenever I try to access any of my loadouts the
game crashes. Something to do with the particle effects changes there maybe?

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013, Eric Smith wrote:
We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version is 1787484.

-Eric

--

Team Fortress 2
- Unusual effects:
 - Attachment point and offset for particle effects on unusual hats
can now be adjusted from the character loadout screen
 - Fixed a bug that would cause unusual effects to float in the air
over dead players
 - Fixed a bug that would cause unusual effects to show incorrectly
sometimes when spectating other players
- Network interpolation and update convars can no longer be changed when
playing. To configure these convars, players must not be connected to a
server or must join the spectators
- Fixed a server crash caused by out-of-range animation sequence numbers
- Crates listed on the Community Market are now separated by series
 - Existing listings will be migrated over the next couple days

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Re: [hlds_linux] Matchmaking not working?

[Frank]

Yeah, I've asked this once before and sure enough there was a problem.
Figured it wouldn't hurt to bring it up if in fact there was an issue.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 11:26 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Matchmaking not working?

Clouds position compared to sun might cause things like this. In all
seriousness, perhaps it's just normal once a while. There was a case in the
past where someone said the same thing and suddenly he had full servers week
later.

-ics

Frank kirjoitti:
> I have many MvM servers that are empty which is very very rare - is 
> match making not working or something wrong here?
>
> When I look they are signed on for accepting traffic and authorized 
> like normal.
>
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[hlds_linux] Matchmaking not working?

[Frank]

I have many MvM servers that are empty which is very very rare - is match
making not working or something wrong here?

When I look they are signed on for accepting traffic and authorized like
normal.

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[Frank]

VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if you
are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

Hello!

Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with VAC
enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
banned.

This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a very
vague recollection.

Thanks

[foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Frank]

Well there is this and another issue I reported on here about the trade
server and its system. I get many complaints and have seen this before but
it's nothing I can control. When you've completed a trade and you have
another trader sending one you used to be able to pick it right up without
viewing the items but if you press let's say "K" to accept the incoming
trade after the previous it pushes the items in your face you received first
so you have to close this and accept the other incoming trade.

I hated to ramble on in that sentence but I really do not know how else to
explain it but this changed within the last few months after another update
but I have no idea how to control it client side or server side. Pretty
annoying to say the least be it someone they complain to or a player so can
this be fixed back?



-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of martin v
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:33 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

Does anyone else have issue with unusual effects after death? I got unusual
handyman for pyro with peace sign and when i get killed and watch my
teammates from 3rd person i see my peace sign over their heads. I went on
couple different servers and even on servers without any addons and i had
that. I also launched 100% clean and new tf2 testing server without SM/MM
etc. (no addons or anything. just a clean, default installation) and went
there with 3 of my friends who also had unusual hats and everybody had that
bug.

Wearing unusual hat -> you die or get killed -> you spect on your teammates
in 3rd person after death waiting for respawn and you keep seeing you effect
over their heads. If they have their own unusual hat you see 2 effects. This
does not happen when joining the spectator team. Only after death waiting
for respawn.

This is not related to this update. I saw that about 1 maybe max 2 months
ago but i didn't get any reply on the group.

Hopefully this time someone will at least confirm that they are having the
same issue and maybe valve could try to fix this.



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Re: [hlds_linux] Server crash bug in latest build

[Frank]

What is the ETA on this cause I've seen a few of my servers so far either
restart which is at least good some what but a few others just crash out and
disappear.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fletcher
Dunn
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 2:43 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
(h...@list.valvesoftware.com); Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
(hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com)
Subject: [hlds_linux] Server crash bug in latest build

There is a bug in the update we just released.



Setting net_compresspackets to 0 is a workaround.



We'll have a new update released shortly.  Apologies.

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[hlds_linux] Server or Item server issue?

[Frank]

I have users reporting and I've seen this myself that when they obtain an
item from a trade the information isn't instantly displayed on the screens.
Also it seems that unless the user is pressing the default or selected
button to display the traded item and a follow up trade request is being
sent that the item is then displayed on the screen to all when they select
to trade with the other person.

 

This sounds rather stupid and I feel stupid for asking (is hard to explain)
since I'm sure it's an issue or something changed with the item server but I
could be wrong and this could be something that is sending/receiving
information from the server itself to the item server upon connection to
steam.

 

Can someone either verify they have seen this or explain it better so Valve
can look into it?

 

Thanks

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

[Frank]

Ok this is the 2nd one of these I've gotten today. But while we are on the
subject can you explain this a little more?

Added ConVar sv_motd_unload_on_dismissal to allow server ops to control the
default behavior of their MOTD



-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:26 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux
server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

We've released a mandatory update for Team Fortress 2. The notes for the
update are below.

-Eric

--

Team Fortress 2
- Added a new ConVar cl_first_person_uses_world_model to allow this mode to
be used outside of VR mode
- Disabled plug-ins that would allow users to connect to secure game servers
even when -insecure is specified on the command line 
   - Continued use of such plug-ins will risk your Steam account getting VAC
banned
- Added support for unloading the displayed URL when the user closes the
info panel
   - Added ConVar sv_motd_unload_on_dismissal to allow server ops to control
the default behavior of their MOTD
- Fixed a client crash related to doing a changelevel while firing the
Minigun
- Fixed a bug where you could come out of a teleporter facing the wrong way
in VR mode
- Improved performance and stability for the Linux version
- Fixed a bug with custom fonts not loading for third party HUDs on Linux.


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Re: [hlds_linux] More reliable support for server IP changes

[Frank]

This X1000 - I just changed IP#'s of two of my servers and the player count
has dropped by 70% and is slowly going back up cause its taking players a
while to find the change. I had no choice but to change the IP#'s or
location of those two servers but now its hurting and its time Valve done
something with regards to having it save in the server browser.

Instead of taking things away like the MOTD changes that so many if not the
majority of server owners are against how about adding something like this
to help us.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ruben Lopes
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 5:27 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] More reliable support for server IP changes

I would like to leave my opinion here for Valve to consider.Probably all of
us server admins know the frustration with having to change our servers IP's
either because of a migration, changing from a unreliable hosting,
datacenter change, etc...We also know that even though we can connect and
add a hostname to favorites ir doesn't update if the IP changes (at least
the last time I checked) and it should, for the obvious reasons mentioned
above. So that change I think it's been overdue and I can see no good reason
for it not being like that since day one. That way, players who connect
through the hostname wouldn't even notice that the IP changed. But even with
that, the people who added "Current server to favorites" only added the
current IP of the server. 
So, even better than that would be to have a aditional server id system that
could be used to keep track of servers, so that a specific serverID would
always point to the server IP:Port of the server that has that specific
tf_server_identity_account_id in the config. Then, players could connect to
that serverID that would also be automatically be updated in the favorites
if the IP:Port changed. With that, when a server has to change IP, no player
would lose track of that great server that mysteriously disapeared from
their favorites and server administrators wouldn't have to flood every of
their players that they can reach telling that the IP of their server(s)
changed while seeing that effort in vain while losing part of the players
that never came back.I've been through that, and other probably have too. So
this would be a favorable update for everyone. Hope I can see something done
about this soon.  
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

[Frank]

What kinda comment is that? Sure I give my players a great gaming experience
on well managed and fast servers, I said this in the very post you quoted.
Them watching a few seconds of an add to help pay for them isn't me asking
the Devil for the world but many kids and those such as yourself seem to
react that way.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nerdboy
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:06 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

Wow Frank you really don't think much of your patrons do you?


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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

[Frank]

I enjoy running TF2 servers, I have a decent job to support them but me
putting some ads on them so you only view when you join (this is how I had
them setup) then why should that shame on me for trying to at least recover
the costs of running them. I'm not talking about a profit, I'm lucky to
break even every month. I can be trusted just fine to run well managed and
fast servers for players to play on FREE, them viewing an ad one time when
they join for a few seconds isn't going to hurt nobody and is no different
than television companies do with the ads.  If you wish to have tags in
place then fine but tags shouldn't disqualify my servers from getting
traffic be it browser or quickplay as someone else already put it most kids
are too stupid to know how the server browser works so you have to depend on
quickplay/match making to get traffic to your servers. You can't expect to
be able to advertise them on SPUF - you get instant banned for even typing
out an IP# or name of servers so a lot of help Valve is in that regard.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Gordon
Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 2:32 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

If people cannot be trusted to run a server for a free game without blasting
users with ads then I hardly doubt they will play nice and put the proper
tags in place informing people that they are about to blast you with ads.




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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

[Frank]

They clearly listened to SPUF and all its crying over having to watch a few
seconds of ads to support well managed servers they enjoyed playing. I'm
surprised a few comments didn't include most of them thinking money grows on
trees or falls from the sky like rain drops.

A lesson in simple economics I think is needed to teach most of those kids
the facts of life and the understanding that running these servers are NOT
free and the money has to come from some place. 

As for uses well that's collateral damage to Valve whom again obviously only
listened to the crying that went on within SPUF.



-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Bjorn
Wielens
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:39 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

I agree the implemented solution is not acceptable when there are better
alternatives. 

We use MOTD panels for 3 main things:
1. General server/community info, and a list of our other servers (default
MOTD).
2. Rules - accessed by typing "!rules". We also have a plugin that displays
this panel to players when admins issue them warnings or timeouts for rule
violations.

3. Donate information panel. Also accessed only on request (!donate or
something like that)

4.Radio (but not relevant since it's donators only).
I think if a confirmation dialog is implemented, it should also have an
option for a short text string that lets the user see WHY the server wants
to display a MOTD to them. e.g. "This server is trying to show you a MOTD
for: Server Rules" or  "This server is trying to show you a MOTD for:
Sourcetunes Radio". Do you wish to view it?


I'm surprised valve went ahead and implemented the solution they did, given
the extensive discussion in the list about disabling MOTDs (before it went
to pot).





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[hlds_linux] MvM Matchmaking broken?

[Frank]

Just as the title says, last two days I've seen nearly no players in my mvm
servers when normally they stay full 24/7.

 

Is there something going on?

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta update released

[Frank]

You missed the point completely with a bunch of rambling, I only ask of
VALVE not DAN to please let us know the exact date/time of when it will
release so we can PREPARE for that date/time.

Thanks


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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta update released

[Frank]

When I say prepare - I mean as in have the needed time to sit here and
update everything as I can't do it if I'm doing other things. Some of us
take off work to do server updates if they are big ones.

I've followed along with most of the mailings about it but many are just
trash talk..much like you're reply in this manner.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of dan
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:14 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta update released

On 08/03/2013 23:22, Frank wrote:
> My only fear is they announce it here but only a few hours or hour 
> from release - we need at least a few days notice to prepare or at 
> least some of us do.

You knew about it yesterday. Prepare.

--
Dan.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta update released

[Frank]

My only fear is they announce it here but only a few hours or hour from
release - we need at least a few days notice to prepare or at least some of
us do.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of David
Fountain
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:19 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta update released

They still haven't mentioned a date in sure they will announce here

SavSin



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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta update released

[Frank]

When is it due to release for all servers not the Beta's... I'd really like
to know to have some time to prepare as I'm sure others would too.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fletcher
Dunn
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 10:53 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta update released

I think this might actually be possible.  (Cannot confirm for sure.)
Somebody ought to give it a try and see what happens (when the server is
released, that is).  Just delete the directory with the name that's a big
hash, and then run an update (make sure to specify "validate") which will
validate all the files.

But just a reminder that there won't be a stampede.  We'll give people
plenty of time to download and configure their server.



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Re: [hlds_linux] Server Lockup Fix?

[Frank]

I noticed an issue with server lockups/freezing after yesterday's update but
I've not yet put a finger on it for the cause just that it was very annoying
and rendered them pointless to even have up.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Cameron
Munroe
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:25 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server Lockup Fix?

 

map changes every two hours. If not less. 

I can't change the map
after the freeze as it no response to any key stokes. 


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Re: [hlds_linux] Tf2 beta: please make steamcmd able to convert old servers

[Frank]

Be nice to have a date of when this is coming out.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
DontWannaName!
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:46 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Cc: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Tf2 beta: please make steamcmd able to convert old
servers

My suggestion: delete everything but cfg addons maps and motd map cycle/list
then update with steamcmd?

Sent from my iPhone 5

On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Marco Padovan  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Is there any possibility to see something similar to the clients 
> conversion taking place for servers too?
> 
> Or at least ok for a full redownload but please have steamcmd remove 
> old unused files and move mods/maps/whatever was not vanilla to the 
> right new places?
> 
> Thank you,
> Best regards
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Re: [hlds_linux] best way to upgrade from tf2 to tf2beta (steamcmd)

[Frank]

I'm sure they will release plenty of documentation as I think Fletch has
noted earlier on the changes so I wouldn't get too concerned right now, I'm
just sitting and waiting with a case of beer ready to go.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marco
Padovan
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:57 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] best way to upgrade from tf2 to tf2beta (steamcmd)

As we are running multiple servers I'm trying to understand how to make the
update as smooth as possible..

currently doing the update with target directory orangebox/

can preserve the files mods/mapsbut results indirectory growning from
the old 7gb to the actuall11gb...

what can we delete? (media?sounds? maps? (which ones?))
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates released

[Frank]

Ohh ok you replied 18minutes after the update was "announced", not 1 hour.
But it is typical to really have this happen even within 30minutes after an
update is released let alone announced.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of daniel
nilsson jokiaho
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 5:16 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates released

Not new no.

But when server and client are updated. And almost 1 hour are passed it
should work.  Note server and client was updated...


Frank skrev 2013-02-22 20:03:
> You must be new here..
>
> Give it time and it will work - this is common after updates.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of daniel
> nilsson jokiaho
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:01 PM
> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates
released
>
> After update.
>
> I cant start my client. Game is not available.
>
> Eric Smith skrev 2013-02-22 19:41:
>> We've released mandatory updates for Team Fortress 2, Day of Defeat:
> Source, and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. The notes for the updates are below.
>> -Eric
>>
>> --
>>
>> Source Engine Changes (TF2, DoD:S, HL2:DM)
>> - Fixed a client crash related to rendering models
>> - Fixed a client crash related to audio in the web browser
>> - Fixed servers crashing with the error message "Overflow error writing
> string table baseline"
>> - Fixed a missing material when setting mat_viewportscale to anything
> other than 1
>> - Fixed windowed mode under certain window managers for the Linux version
>> - Improved performance for the Linux version
>>
>> Team Fortress 2
>> - Added new promo items
>> - Fixed buildings not always being downgraded at the same rate by the
> Red-Tape Recorder
>> - Fixed not hearing the sound for the Shred Alert taunt while playing
Mann
> Vs. Machine
>> - Fixed players spamming the Shred Alert taunt in spawn rooms by changing
> their loadout presets
>> - Fixed giant robots sometimes getting stuck in Mann Vs. Machine
>> - Fixed a problem where traders that send in-game trade requests would
> receive the error message "The other player is currently busy trading with
> someone else" when the problem was actually related to Steam Guard
settings
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates released

[Frank]

You must be new here..

Give it time and it will work - this is common after updates.


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of daniel
nilsson jokiaho
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:01 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates released

After update.

I cant start my client. Game is not available.

Eric Smith skrev 2013-02-22 19:41:
> We've released mandatory updates for Team Fortress 2, Day of Defeat:
Source, and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. The notes for the updates are below.
>
> -Eric
>
> --
>
> Source Engine Changes (TF2, DoD:S, HL2:DM)
> - Fixed a client crash related to rendering models
> - Fixed a client crash related to audio in the web browser
> - Fixed servers crashing with the error message "Overflow error writing
string table baseline"
> - Fixed a missing material when setting mat_viewportscale to anything
other than 1
> - Fixed windowed mode under certain window managers for the Linux version
> - Improved performance for the Linux version
>
> Team Fortress 2
> - Added new promo items
> - Fixed buildings not always being downgraded at the same rate by the
Red-Tape Recorder
> - Fixed not hearing the sound for the Shred Alert taunt while playing Mann
Vs. Machine
> - Fixed players spamming the Shred Alert taunt in spawn rooms by changing
their loadout presets
> - Fixed giant robots sometimes getting stuck in Mann Vs. Machine
> - Fixed a problem where traders that send in-game trade requests would
receive the error message "The other player is currently busy trading with
someone else" when the problem was actually related to Steam Guard settings
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] SteamPipe is coming. Download the TF beta

[Frank]

I'm not really familiar with this tool , but will it allow you to set a
region to download from much like the clients can do now? Reason I ask is
that sometimes certain locations are faster on the download when a large
update comes out vs how it is now and the update tool just searches for a
"Hand shake" to get the data.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fletcher
Dunn
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 5:52 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux
server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] SteamPipe is coming. Download the TF beta

This confusion may stem from the assumption that this tool exists solely to
download a dedicated server.  Actually the tool is essentially a command
line version of the Steam client.  It also is used by partners to package up
builds and submit it to Steam.


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Re: [hlds_linux] SteamPipe is coming. Download the TF beta

[Frank]

I think I just had an ulcer develop.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fletcher
Dunn
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:36 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
(hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com); Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
mailing list (h...@list.valvesoftware.com);
hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] SteamPipe is coming. Download the TF beta

The orangebox engine games (Team Fortress 2, Counter Strike:Source, Day of
Defeat:Source, HL2:Deathmatch) are being upgraded to SteamPipe.  Steam's
new-and-improved content delivery system.  SteamPipe is currently used by
most games on Steam.

This change will impact server operators in at least two significant ways:


* You will use steamcmd instead of the HLDSUpdateTool to
install/update the server.

* The conversion will entail significant changes to the way the
files appear in the local filesystem on the server and client.  The client
no longer uses GCF files.  Instead, most assets are packed up into VPK, and
those VPKs are the same on the server and the client.  The server no longer
uses 1000's of loose files.

We're using the TF beta to test these changes and identify the bugs, and
give everybody a chance to make sure their favorite mod or plugin will work
in the new system.

Everybody is encouraged to download the TF beta!

We've prepared an FAQ that discusses the details of the change and answers
the questions we anticipate:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7388-QPFN-2491

Please report gameserver related bugs in this mailing list.

Client bugs can be reported through this mailing list, or in the TF beta
forum.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1038

Thanks for your help, and happy testing!

(And remember, playtime in the beta counts towards item drops in the release
game.)

- Fletch

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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Reminder about server tags

[Frank]

I second this - to me 24 players is boring, if it isn't fast respawn its
boring as well. I go in to play not sit in spawn Q and watch everyone else
play.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Essay Tew
Phaun
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:00 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Reminder about server tags

I would like to make one final suggestion, though. I think it's apparent by
this point that a large portion of the TF2 community prefers the style of
gameplay that 32 player servers provide. I know it's not exactly balanced
nor in line with what Valve may test with, but It would be nice if that
scoring penalty were removed as the prompt a client gets when joining said
servers should be enough of a penalty. Clearly if they want to join the
server beyond that prompt, that should be enough.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates coming

[Frank]

Aww a gun that shots Roses and a box of candy that you can beat the other
players to death with?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:03 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux
server mailing list; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates coming

We're working on mandatory updates for Team Fortress 2, Day of Defeat:
Source and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. We should have them ready soon.

-Eric


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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Possible new update that is ~40 MB in size with no documentation?

[Frank]

Yeah I saw It download something for dustbowl.. not sure of anything else.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:21 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux
server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Possible new update that is ~40 MB in size
with no documentation?

Clients only.

-Eric


From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of wickedplayer494 .
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:17 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux
server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Possible new update that is ~40 MB in size with no
documentation?

cough Forgot to mention this is for TF2.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM, wickedplayer494 .
mailto:wickedplayer...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Clients seem to be getting a new ~40 MBish update. Wanted to check 
> here to see if any server admins got it for their servers too or if it 
> appears to be client-only and any possible word from Valve on what 
> this particular update happens to do.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Instability after latest update?

[Frank]

I've tried that and still believe there is an issue with the new medi gun
even after updating TF2 Items.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of PolyQuad
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:18 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Instability after latest update?

Try updating TF2 Items @ http://vphysics.limetech.org/?project=tf2items


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Scipizoa 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:12 PM
To: uniac...@yahoo.ca; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Instability after latest update?

I'm getting serrver crashes  and  it seems to occure when someone uses the
new medic gun

From: Bjorn Wielens 
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Subject: [hlds_linux] Instability after latest update?

Has anyone noticed additional server instability since the latest update?

I'm getting 100% cpu usage hangs on non-MVM servers, nothing in the logs
that would indicate the problem.



Running latest soucemod and Metamod snapshots, with the following plugins:



  01 "[TF2] gScramble Team Manager" (3.0.11) by Goerge

  02 "Sound Commands" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  03 "Extended Mute" (1.2.2-B) by Twisted|Panda (Orig: FLOOR_MASTER)

  04 "Anti Color Abuse" (1.0.0) by 11530

  05 "Fun Commands" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  06 "Basic Votes" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  07 "HLstatsX CE Ingame Plugin" (1.6.19) by psychonic

  08 "[TF2] Model Manager" (1.0.2) by FlaminSarge (based on Damizean's TF2
Equipment Manager)

  09 "Player Commands" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  10 "SuperLogs: TF2" (2.0.32) by Thomas "CmptrWz" Berezansky & psychonic

  11 "Fun Votes" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  12 "Advertisements" (0.5.5) by Tsunami

  13 "Fun Commands X" (2.2) by Spazman0 and Arg!

  14 "Basic Comm Control" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  15 "SourceMod Radio" (1.0.0.13) by dubbeh

  16 "MySQL Server Configs & Logging" (1.1) by MoggieX

  17 "Bonus Round Immunity" (1.1.0) by Antithasys

  18 "AFK Manager" (3.4.3) by Rothgar

  19 "Web Shortcuts" (1.1) by Kyle Sanderson, Nicholas Hastings

  20 "Simple Chat Colors" (2.0.0) by Simple Plugins

  21 "Donator Recognition" (1.3a) by Nut

  22 "Simple Chat Processor" (1.0.1) by Simple Plugins

  23 "Nextmap" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  24 "Server Redirect Modded" (1.2.1) by Bottiger, Brainstorm

  25 "Admin Help" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  26 "SourceBans" (1.4.8) by SourceBans Development Team

  27 "Admin Menu" (1.4.4-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  28 "Reserved Slots" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  29 "Basic Chat" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  30 "Sourcebans Checker" (1.0.0) by psychonic & Ca$h Munny

  31 "Basic Info Triggers" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  32 "Client Preferences" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  33 "Spray Tracer" (5.8a) by Nican132, CptMoore, Lebson506th

  34 "Anti-Flood" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  35 "Player Warnings" (1.0.8) by Twisted|Panda

  36 "Basic Commands" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  37 "Admin File Reader" (1.4.5-dev) by AlliedModders LLC

  38 "[TF2] Second MOTD" (1.0) by Powerlord











 From: Ross Bemrose 

To: Eric Smith 

Cc: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
; "'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com'"


Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:14:42 PM

Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds_announce] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM
updates released



Any particular reason that the TF2 Item servers are down while the

Portal 2 (among others) item server is still up?



On 12/20/2012 6:12 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

> Sorry, we forgot part of the notes:

>

> - Added three new community weapons

> - The Vaccinator

> - The Loose Cannon

> - The Rescue Ranger

>

>

> -Eric

>

>

>

> -Original Message-

> From: hlds_announce-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_announce-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Smith

> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:59 PM

> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list;
'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'

> Subject: [hlds_announce] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates released

>

> We've released mandatory updates for TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM.  The notes
for the updates are below.

>

> -Eric

>

> --

>

> Source Engine Changes (TF2, DoD:S, HL2:DM)

> - Updated some Big Picture features

> - Additional improvements for client stability

>

> Team Fortress 2

> - Australian Christmas has begun!

> - Added community-contributed winter event items

> - Added Naughty and Nice winter keys to the Mann Co. Store

> - Mann Vs. Machine

>   

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates released

[Frank]

Yeah nothing at the moment... still waiting on many of my servers to update
before I worry about details

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Smith
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:22 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates released

SourceMod broken for anyone else with this update?  MetaMod is loading but
SM isn't even being recognized.

On 20.12.2012 15:12, Eric Smith wrote:
> Sorry, we forgot part of the notes:
>
> - Added three new community weapons
>- The Vaccinator
>- The Loose Cannon
>- The Rescue Ranger
>
>
> -Eric
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_announce-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_announce-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eric Smith
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:59 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; 
> 'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com';
> 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
> Subject: [hlds_announce] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates 
> released
>
> We've released mandatory updates for TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM.  The 
> notes for the updates are below.
>
> -Eric
>
> --
>
> Source Engine Changes (TF2, DoD:S, HL2:DM)
> - Updated some Big Picture features
> - Additional improvements for client stability
>
> Team Fortress 2
> - Australian Christmas has begun!
>- Added community-contributed winter event items
>- Added Naughty and Nice winter keys to the Mann Co. Store
> - Mann Vs. Machine
>- Added a new tour of duty with unique loot:
>  - Operation Mecha Engine, with 3 new advanced skill missions
>  - New map mvm_bigrock
>  - New Engineer Botkiller items
>- Added new Engineer robot
> - Added new Strange Filter items to the Mann Co. Store to support 
> community map makers
> - Added new checkout dialogs and taunt-activated effect to raise 
> awareness for Community Map Stamps
> - Added +context_action command (defaults to X for controllers). This 
> will use the action slot if your Canteen contains a charge and will 
> taunt otherwise3
> - Added +attack3 command (defaults to middle-mouse button)
> - Added Adult Swim items to the Mann Co. Store
> - Fixed an exploit that allowed players to be permanently invulnerable
> - Fixed the Pyro's airblast not working correctly when facing downhill
> - Made Force-A-Nature pushback more consistent
> - Updated pl_barnblitz
>- Fixed various map exploits
> - Updated sd_doomsday
>- Fixed various map exploits
> - Updated the localization files
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Client-only update?

[Frank]

Appears so - the #52 and #53 crates naughty and nice are starting to drop on
those that are updated it seems too. Be nice for some information in regards
to this from Valve along with the soon to be released Xmas update.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ross Bemrose
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:10 PM
To: Half-Life Windows dedicated server mailing; Half-Life Linux dedicated
server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] TF2 Client-only update?

Should we assume today's mysterious patch-note-less 89.6MB TF2 update is a
client-only update?

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Re: [hlds_linux] Another optional *TF* update coming today

[Frank]

I just got an update only 2.5mb in size... what was this for?


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:24 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
(h...@list.valvesoftware.com); Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
(hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com)
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Another optional *TF* update coming today

The optional update has been released and should fix the problem with MvM
servers.

-Eric


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[hlds_linux] Server info data overflow

[Frank]

disconnected (reason "Server info data overflow")

 

 

Still seeing this from clients which blocks them from entering into the
server after a period of time - mostly Linux but I have seen a few windows
servers do this. Does anyone have a clue why?? I've yet to figure out the
cause and the last few updates have yet to stop it.

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[hlds_linux] Server info data overflow help

[Frank]

disconnected (reason "Server info data overflow")

 

 

Ok I posted a while back thinking it was on a Linux issue but now I have
seen it on a Windows server - anyone care to give me some steps on solving
this problem? This is what clients are getting after a while of the server
going - requires a map reset to allow clients to join again without getting
the error.

The most recent optional update didn't do nothing to effect this.

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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Broken linux update

[Frank]

Let's hope this update coming thru will help server issues with the Client
overflow problem I've reported - this is coming thru both Linux and Windows
servers - once it starts doing this to clients nobody else can get into the
servers without a map reset at least.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
wickedplayer494 .
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 9:34 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Cc: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Broken linux update

And in case anyone's confused (questions like "what update?"), here's info
relevant for server admins that I was also going to repost:

- Sizes being reported vary from 50-70 MB

- Omolong of Facepunch (
http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1221466&p=38334809&viewfull=1#post3833
4809
) said he got a HL2:DM update before-hand, with norse77 of reddit (
http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/12pbxy/tf2_and_possibly_other_source_en
gine_games_update/c6x0t4o)
verifying, though I'm not sure if admins got the HL2: DM update though

Context of the message quoted:

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Matteo  wrote:

> Is anyone having problems getting the Linux dedicated to run after 
> this update?


On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Michael Tharp
wrote:

> (crossposting because this probably only affects linux operators)
>
> On 11/05/2012 09:21 PM, Jim Fasoline wrote:
>
>> Matteo- yes, I'm experiencing the error that gtxi of reddit pointed 
>> out in wickedplayer494's response. Seems to be looping on that 
>> "Failed to open dedicated.so" message, but I need to look into it more.
>>
>
> Looks like a regression:
>  $ strings tf-20121103.0/orangebox/srcds_**linux |grep dedicated 
> dedicated_srv.so  $ strings tf-20121106.0/orangebox/srcds_**linux 
> |grep dedicated dedicated.so
>
> Of course dedicated.so no longer exists since the Halloween update.
> Strongly recommend Linux operators do not apply tonight's optional update.
>
> If you've already applied the update and need a bailout, drop this 
> into your orangebox dir (TF2 only) -- it's from the previous version:
> http://partiallystapled.com/~**gxti/srcds_linux d.com/~gxti/srcds_linux>
>
> You may need to "chmod a+rx" it after downloading.
>
> -- m. tharp
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[hlds_linux] disconnected (reason "Server info data overflow")

[Frank]

disconnected (reason "Server info data overflow")

 

 

Ok I posted a while back thinking it was on a Linux issue but now I have
seen it on a Windows server - anyone care to give me some steps on solving
this problem? This is what clients are getting after a while of the server
going - requires a map reset to allow clients to join again without getting
the error.

 

 

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

[Frank]

I'm downloading another update as of now for some reason? Size is 96.1MB

What was this for? Doesn't appear to be a forced mandatory just client side
but would be nice to know why.
thanks 

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 2:26 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'; Half-Life dedicated
Win32 server mailing list; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

We've released a mandatory update for Team Fortress 2. The notes for the
update are below.

-Eric

--


Source Engine Changes (TF2, DoD:S, HL2:DM)
- Fixed a bug that was causing intermittent lag spikes for Linux dedicated
servers
- Fixed a crash while command-tabing on Mac in fullscreen
- Fixed not running on Mac OSX 10.5.8

Team Fortress 2
- MERASMUS! has leveled up at WizardCon!
   - "The Skull Island Topper" now tracks the highest level of Merasmus the
owner has helped defeat
   - Increased Engineer, Scout, Pyro and Heavy damage against Merasmus
   - Increased Soldier and Demoman damage against Merasmus while he is in
hiding
- Saxxy Awards submissions are now being accepted for the Replay category
via the in-game YouTube(tm) uploader
- Fixed the Heavy not playing the correct audio when equipping all of the
Grand Duchess items
- Fixed the Grand Duchess items not being groupped as an item set
- Fixed a bug that allowed spells to be applied to base items
- Added zombie character images and a new Halloween background for the main
menu
- Beta version of new item import tool, available in game in the Steam
Workshop submission process
- Fixed Mann vs. Machine robots not taunting when they level up while
carrying the bomb
- Updated the health bar for Merasmus and Monoculus
- Added more credits to Caliginous Caper, Wave 666

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Re: [hlds_linux] "Server info data overflow"

[Frank]

Watch your console - what happens is clients are getting this error and
can't join.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Cameron
Munroe
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:39 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] "Server info data overflow"

Thus valve has made the server do more. I haven't had on any of my Linux
servers and I run 19 of them.

Sent from my android device.



-Original Message-
From: Frank 
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'

Sent: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] "Server info data overflow"

Yeah I would say it would be but not when its two servers and it happened
right after this halloween update came out.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Cameron
Munroe
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:37 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] "Server info data overflow"

Most likely a misconfigured server.

Sent from my android device.



-Original Message-
From: Frank 
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list

Sent: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 6:57 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] "Server info data overflow"

What is the reason for this - its only happening on my Linux servers I have
to reset the map. I've not seen one single answer from Valve yet.

 

disconnected (reason "Server info data overflow")

 

 

This is the error 

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Re: [hlds_linux] "Server info data overflow"

[Frank]

Yeah I would say it would be but not when its two servers and it happened
right after this halloween update came out.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Cameron
Munroe
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:37 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] "Server info data overflow"

Most likely a misconfigured server.

Sent from my android device.



-Original Message-----
From: Frank 
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list

Sent: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 6:57 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] "Server info data overflow"

What is the reason for this - its only happening on my Linux servers I have
to reset the map. I've not seen one single answer from Valve yet.

 

disconnected (reason "Server info data overflow")

 

 

This is the error 

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[hlds_linux] "Server info data overflow"

[Frank]

What is the reason for this - its only happening on my Linux servers I have
to reset the map. I've not seen one single answer from Valve yet.

 

disconnected (reason "Server info data overflow")

 

 

This is the error 

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Re: [hlds_linux] Hanging on mapchange (changelevel)

[Frank]

WTF!!!

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Staci Page
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:45 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Hanging on mapchange (changelevel)

Well you responded, didn't realize I'd get your response that fast! I was
just looking at some news sites, kinda bored. Would you liven things up with
me, do you happen to have a web cam? I do! ;)


Check my pictures here on my page if you'd want. Sext me a naughty photo or
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Re: [hlds_linux] Optional Team Fortress 2 update released

[Frank]

Anyone else getting this when trying to enter your servers - seems a map
reset fixes it but I had a few I didn't notice people couldn't join due to
getting this and they(the servers) nearly died.

disconnected (reason "Server info data overflow")


That is what they see when trying to enter the servers.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Optional Team Fortress 2 update released

[Frank]

Anyone else getting this when trying to enter your servers - seems a map
reset fixes it but I had a few I didn't notice people couldn't join due to
getting this and they(the servers) nearly died.

disconnected (reason "Server info data overflow")


That is what they see when trying to enter the servers.


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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds_announce] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

[Frank]

I'm sorry if someone has already asked but what in the world is going on now
that we are getting "Invalid STEAM userID ticket crashes - I lost a full
server tonight ALL AT ONCE! BAM! All gone cause of same error... this didn't
start till yesterday's update came out.

So going to say it now... we need to stop bringing in new things till the
bugs are addressed! Last year was very unacceptable when it came to the
Halloween update - the game was unplayable for nearly a month due to the
crashes. While I'm like everyone else that enjoys a good addition of items
to keep the game alive I think it's best if the bugs we currently have is
fixed prior to this year's event update - then please be on the ball thru
each day including weekends to solve any bugs ( we know we will get them)
that are released in the event update.

So with saying that - the better date to release this year's event would be
this coming Monday or Tuesday, no later to avoid issues spilling over into
the weekend which is prime playing time for many players considering schools
are back in and people work during the regular week.
A heads up of when exactly it will be released would be very nice so those
of us that run multiple servers can be ready for it perhaps even take time
off to prepare.


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Re: [hlds_linux] DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range

[Frank]

https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=195008


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Joel Zhang
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 2:42 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range

Can you point me to a link to this extension?
On 2012-09-23 11:34 AM, "Frank"  wrote:

> There is an extension you can use to stop it over on Allied however it 
> should have been fixed long ago by Valve and not needing to use a 3rd 
> party method to suppress it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K.
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 2:30 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: [hlds_linux] DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range
>
> Does anyone know what this error means, it's spamming like crazy on 
> our
> bball2 server;
>
> DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (113714.304688) in 
> SendPropFloat 'm_flLastDamageTime', clamping.
> DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (113714.304688) in 
> SendPropFloat 'm_flLastDamageTime', clamping.
> DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (113714.304688) in 
> SendPropFloat 'm_flLastDamageTime', clamping.
> DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (113714.304688) in 
> SendPropFloat 'm_flLastDamageTime', clamping.
> DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (113716.289062) in 
> SendPropFloat 'm_flLastDamageTime', clamping.
>
> Saint K.
>
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