Re: Cleaning a apple keyboard.

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Well, you could throw it in the dishwasher, although I haven't tried 
this myself:


http://www.wikihow.com/Clean-a-Keyboard-in-a-Dishwasher

CB

On 9/6/14, 6:42 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I have a mac mini and i have noticed that during the 2 latest weeks i have had 
problems with navigating with the keyboard.
This mostly happens on the internet but i have noticed it in mail and other 
applications too.
I can press one of the arrow keys and release it but it seems that the keyboard 
does not take notice of the releasing of the key.
This doesn't happen all the time while navigating but sometimes.
I can just stop it by pressing any key on the keyboard.
This begun suddenly and i first thought there was something with my braille 
display causing the problem.
Then i thought i had some sort of problem with my trackpad.
So i turned off bluetooth but it didn't help.
Now when i am writing this i found out that if i turn off quicknav and use vo 
plus the arrow keys this problem does not occur at all.
But i do like quicknav so i really wont turn that off but if thats the 
sollution or if i have to use the numpad keys then i just have to stick with 
that.
But i don't understand whats going on with voiceover using quicknav.
I wonder if its the keyboard thats been dammaged or dirty.
Hope this is as clear as possible to you.
Its quite hard for me as a non english user to describe.
But please ask if you do not understand.
Thanks.
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Re: Backup Strategies

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Of course another piece to any backup strategy is off-site storage. If 
your stuff is valuable enough, take one of your drives every so often 
and leave it with a friend somewhere else. That way if something 
catastrophic happens like a fire or hurricane, chances are your data on 
drives in two physical locations won't both be destroyed.


CB

On 9/11/14, 9:49 AM, Kayaker wrote:

Hello,

Here is a basic strategy with increasing levels of commitment to your time.

1. The Absolute Barest of Barest
Purchase an external drive that matches the capacity of your internal drive and 
use either Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper to perform a complete clone of the 
drive, making it a bootable volume. If you do this weekly, you'll never lose 
more than a weeks worth of work.

2. A reasonable Method
Use plan 1 and add a time machine backup. Either a time capsule, or another 
attached drive. If you have a laptop, the time capsule is a nice solution since 
you do not need to physically attach the drive. This gives you archive 
abilities and reduces the potential loss down to an hour's worth of work.

3. A Basic Plan
Use Plan 2 and add a second backup drive to your plan 1 rotation. In other 
words, have two drives that you use for making a clone and use the first drive 
on odd number weeks and the second on even numbered weeks. Keep one of those 
drives in a different physical location. Thus helping you in case of meteor 
strikes or a black hole opening up in your house.

Time machine is fantastic, but it's not enough. I've seen too many time machine 
backups fail when it's been needed after a disaster. That is why I think it is 
critical to have a cloned bootable drive of your main system. What is nice 
about using an app like carbon copy cloner, is that after making the backup, it 
will tell you if there are files that it had trouble reading. This is a great 
indicator of the health of your data.

Best,
--k
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questions.
  


On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:46 PM, The Believer  wrote:


   Can I get a basic strategy to use for backups? I will use a USB 3.0 500gig 
external drive. After I start doing this, I will get closer to upgrading to 
Mavericks. I created the bootable USB drive for that today.

   I do not plan on cloud backups at least not for a while. Thanks.

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Re: warning e-mail about gmail addresses leak

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Just a for instance, it wouldn't take too much to embed your gmail 
address in the link so that clicking on it tells them you read their 
spam and are willing to click on strange links. That puts you on the A 
list they sell to other spammers. It's also possible the site will 
'help' you fix your password by asking for your current credentials, 
which they then sell to the highest bidder.


CB

On 9/12/14, 1:06 PM, The Believer wrote:
There is all sorts of hacking going on. But it makes absolutely no 
sense at all to go onto a strange web site and ewpose oneself to 
further hacking. Common sense dictates that one can simply change 
passwords by logging into legitimate web sites, in this case the Gmall 
site.


Furthermore, hackers take every advantage of news stories like this to 
tap into yet more unsuspecting accounts.


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On 9/12/2014 9:24 AM, Todd W wrote:
Actually this one seems to be true. This leak has been reported by 
several

news outlets in the past several days.

Todd

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM, The Believer 


wrote:


No, emails like this are never legit, never.

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On 9/11/2014 11:29 PM, Eleanor Roberts wrote:


Hi Andrew

I had exactly the same e-mail. I haven't tried the website, but share
your concerns completely. Could anyone else who is more in the know 
than

me please confirm if this was legit or not?? As with Andrew, I too am
worried that I may have revealed my address to a hacker.

Thanks.

Eleanor

Sent from my iPad

On 12 Sep 2014, at 06:25, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:


Listers,

I think it was yesterday or the day before that I found among the
messages from the list an e-mail containing a warning of a 
possible leak of
e-mail addresses from gmail. The messaged contained instructions 
on how to
check whether one's e-mail was possibly compromised or not. The 
website to

go to was is leaked.com.

As I saw no reference to this by any other member of the group, I now
wonder whether it was spam. Has anyone else received this warning? 
Is the

website isleaked.com genuine? I connected to it to check my e-mail
address. It opened in Russian and from there there was a link to 
the US
version and Spanish version and possibly others as well. I now 
worry that
the whole thing was spam and I may have revealed my address to a 
hacker.


I'd be very grateful to hear whether anyone else has been notified by
this e-mail of a possible theft of millions of gmail addresses.

Thank you.

Andrew

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Re: Backup Strategies

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I had always wondered how reasonable it would be to do some kind of 
backup co-op. For example, if I could figure out how to share a drive on 
the internet for somebody else and they did the same for me, I could 
backup my stuff to their drive and vice versa. As a co-op neither of us 
would pay the other anything as it would be a symbiotic solution. Of 
course there is a level of trust involved that they aren't going to do 
anything bad with your files so I guess it would have to be somebody you 
know. I know you can use the back to my mac to reach another Mac over 
the internet but can you set up shares and such that another user's time 
machine could use?


CB

On 9/12/14, 4:36 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
I've not had to use it personally must confess, however, the interface 
is available via the site and they do have telephone tech support that 
Drop Box does not.




Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an 
Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com 



URL: - www.talknav.com 
e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com 
Phone: - +44  844 999 4199

On 11 Sep 2014, at 15:19, Phil Halton > wrote:


Neil, please tell us how accessible the Carbonite website interface 
is in terms of versioning. I am currently using dropbox and their 
versioning is difficult at best. I would consider switching to 
Carbonite if it is a better user experience. Thanks for anything you 
can tell us.


Sent from my IPhone


On Sep 11, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
mailto:for...@talknav.com>> wrote:


I like these, however, you've missed cloud solutions such as 
Carbonite, who I especially like. They are fully automated, need no 
baby sitting, and, are both off site and continuous.


Carbonite also allows for versioning, so if like me, once upon a 
time you saved over the top of hours worth of work, no problem, 
Carbonite keeps versions of all files you create for up to, I 
believe three months.






Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an 
Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit 
www.talknav.com 


URL: - www.talknav.com 
e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com 
Phone: - +44  844 999 4199

On 11 Sep 2014, at 14:49, Kayaker > wrote:



Hello,

Here is a basic strategy with increasing levels of commitment to 
your time.


1. The Absolute Barest of Barest
Purchase an external drive that matches the capacity of your 
internal drive and use either Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper to 
perform a complete clone of the drive, making it a bootable volume. 
If you do this weekly, you'll never lose more than a weeks worth of 
work.


2. A reasonable Method
Use plan 1 and add a time machine backup. Either a time capsule, or 
another attached drive. If you have a laptop, the time capsule is a 
nice solution since you do not need to physically attach the drive. 
This gives you archive abilities and reduces the potential loss 
down to an hour's worth of work.


3. A Basic Plan
Use Plan 2 and add a second backup drive to your plan 1 rotation. 
In other words, have two drives that you use for making a clone and 
use the first drive on odd number weeks and the second on even 
numbered weeks. Keep one of those drives in a different physical 
location. Thus helping you in case of meteor strikes or a black 
hole opening up in your house.


Time machine is fantastic, but it's not enough. I've seen too many 
time machine backups fail when it's been needed after a disaster. 
That is why I think it is critical to have a cloned bootable drive 
of your main system. What is nice about using an app like carbon 
copy cloner, is that after making the backup, it will tell you if 
there are files that it had trouble reading. This is a great 
indicator of the health of your data.


Best,
--k
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the questions.



On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:46 PM, The Believer 
mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:


 Can I get a basic strategy to use for backups? I will use a USB 
3.0 500gig external drive. After I start doing this, I will get 
closer to upgrading to Mavericks. I created the bootable USB drive 
for that today.


 I do not plan on cloud backups at least not for a while. Thanks.

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Re: Storage Options and Hard Drives.

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

One advantage of SSD is speed, especially compared to low-power laptop 
spinning drives. I was once working with a guy who went from launching 
vmware to working in windows in about 3 seconds on a MacBook Air with 
SSD. Not sure if that is typical but it was impressive. I think hard 
drives just haven't kept up with the rest of the computer architecture 
such that our CPUs idle waiting for the disk to spin. SSD is a step 
forward in re-aligning the storage speed with the leaps all the other 
subsystems have taken. At least SSD costs seem to keep on dropping every 
year. A quick check of Newegg points to about $US .60 per GB which, at 
one time, would have been considered cheap for a spinning disk. While 
the crossover for the cost of SSB per GB matching spinning disks is 
still years in the future, the differential isn't what it used to be. 
It's also a diminishing return where, eventually, you'll have more 
storage than you can fill for the life of the machine. I used to go 
through several hard drive upgrade over the life of a machine but now 
days I seldom run out, but maybe that's just me.


CB

On 9/15/14, 12:28 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:
SSDs aren't like thumb drives.  They are much more reliable and don't 
have that problem of write limits.
If you have the money for one, than that's great.  But, you don't need 
anything like this unless your doing something like audio or video 
production.   They are much more costly.
WD My Book or My Passport will do just fine for most people.  If you 
choose that option, don't git the version for Mac.  it cost more and 
all you need to do is git the PC version and reformat it.



On Sep 14, 2014, at 11:00 PM, Anita > wrote:


Hi List,
Can't SSD drives only be written to rewritten and read 
from a certain number of times? If this is the case, does it quit 
working after the last rewrite? For this reason, was wondering which 
is the best drive to purchase?

Thanks,
Anita

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Re: New Member Awaiting Approval

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I do the admin work for the list. Generally every join request gets an 
email from me just asking a bit about how they found the list and such. 
It's a basic spam filter to make sure the person wanting to join is a 
real person. I wait up to 30 days and if I don't hear anything back I 
reject the request. You might be surprised how many requests get 
rejected in a month's time but the end result is we are pretty clear of 
spammers. As far as I can tell I only have three outstanding join 
requests and emails have been sent to all of them.


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On 9/13/14, 8:49 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

To the mods:
Someone on Twitter is having a really odd problem with his Mac, one 
that I've never heard of. I suggested he join this list, and about an 
hour ago he sent in his join request. I know the notifications for 
joining are problematic, so I wanted to let you know that there is 
someone awaiting your approval. Thanks.

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Re: To the Mods, Changing email address

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Easiest way is to subscribe with your new address and, once that's 
working, unsubscribe the old one. If you get stuck give me a ping.


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How does a subscriber change his email address from thedog...@gmail.com to 
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Re: To the Mods, Changing email address

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Shouldn't take all that long. I'm generally on email every day although 
it's a bit spotty on weekends.


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Re: warning e-mail about gmail addresses leak

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The trick is that any response tells them the have a live working 
account, that their message got through the spam filter, that a user 
actually read the message and took the time to reply. That's like gold 
in a spammer's list, which they can now sell as a top quality email 
address to the highest bidder, who will tell two friends, who tell two 
more friends and so on.


CB

On 9/14/14, 11:04 AM, The Believer wrote:
A shot in the dark that yielded results. Spam deserves the speediest 
of responses. Straight to the trash bin.


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On 9/14/2014 8:02 AM, Krysti .Power wrote:
yes but i figure they allready had my email address as i got the 
email in

the first place

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Krysti .Power 


wrote:


so i shouldnt of sent the email

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:48 AM, The Believer 


wrote:


Smart move there. Yeah, real smart. They just added one more viable
email address to their database.

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On 9/14/2014 7:44 AM, Krysti .Power wrote:


i got one the other day saying i won 7.5M dollars reply to send the
money i
sent an email back saying if you contact me again im contacting the
police
you fucking scammer sorry for the bad langue but thats what i sent 
back


On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Jessica Moss 



wrote:

True, I used to get these off-the-wall messages, supposedly from 
friends

of mine on facebook, telling me things like "I am making crazy money
using
this system," and would give me a link to click on, and I knew 
none of

my
friends would've written something like that, especially the one 
I got

that
from who at the time, ran a day care center out of her home.
I got one one time from someone I went to FSDB with, who was
deaf/blind,
claiming she or someone who possibly hacked her acount, got a 
large sum

of
money from an organization called deafview, and that I should 
contact

them
to get mine, and said something about "us lucky deaf people," as 
part of
one of the messages she sent me, which made me wonder, but only 
gave me

someone's aim screen name to contact them about the supposed sum of
money,
which I never bothered with.
On Sep 12, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Dillon Collier 


wrote:

This web sight is a good way to get hacked I wouldn't mess with if I



were u!



dillon collier


On Sep 12, 2014, at 12:59 PM, The Believer 





wrote:




And of course some of those emails look to be from a trusted 
source


but those sources were very likely to have been compromised. So 
best

bet
is, if it looks and smells fishy, it is.




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On 9/12/2014 10:54 AM, Todd W wrote:

It's certainly better to be safe than sorry. If an e-mail looks
fishy,
even if it's from an address you know, it probaly is...

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:07 PM, The Believer <


ancient.ali...@icloud.com>



wrote:


Deleting spam without further ado is safe.


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On 9/12/2014 9:48 AM, Eleanor Roberts wrote:


Very interesting to read all the different points on this. 
But just



one



question, as someone who opened the e-mail but did not follow the



link or



go onto the website or anything will I have exposed any of my



information



to these potential hackers or not?? Just a bit concerned I may've



done



something very stupid by even opening the e-mail. Any thoughts from



those



of you far more experienced than me most welcome/appreciated.


Thanks.

Eleanor

Sent from my iPad

On 12 Sep 2014, at 17:24, Todd W 

wrote:

Actually this one seems to be true. This leak has been 
reported

by
several news outlets in the past several days.

Todd

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM, The Believer <


ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
No, emails like this are never legit, never.

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On 9/11/2014 11:29 PM, Eleanor Roberts wrote:

Hi Andrew

I had exactly the same e-mail. I haven't tried the 
website, but



share



your concerns completely. Could anyone else who is more in the



know than



me please confirm if this was legit or not?? As with Andrew, I



too am



worried that I may have revealed my address to a hacker.


Thanks.

Eleanor

Sent from my iPad

On 12 Sep 2014, at 06:25, Andrew Lamanche 



wrote:





Listers,

I think it was yesterday or the day before that I found 
among

the
messages from the list an e-mail containing a warning of a


possible leak of



e-mail addresses from gmail. The messaged contained



instructions on how to



check whether one's e-mail was possibly compromised or not. The



website to



go to was is leaked.com.


As I saw no reference to this by any other member of the 
group,



I now



wonder whether it was spam. Has anyone else received this



warning? Is the



website isleake

Re: is firefox now accessable?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Can you email me off list? Google Groups is complaining that your email 
address is bouncing. Tried to contact you off-list but, well, I assume 
the message bounced :)


CB

On 8/31/14, 12:14 AM, trahern culver wrote:
hey all is firefox now accessable on mac os10? if it is please could 
some one tell me more about it? your help with this question would be 
most welcome kind regards trey.

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Hai Nguyes - Email bouncing

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Tried to contact you off list but, the email bounced. Please drop me an 
email so I can get this resolved.


CB

On 2/6/14, 3:30 PM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:

Good afternoon Helena:
Removing the files
com.apple.internetaccounts.plist and
com.apple.mail-shared.plist
from ~/Library/Preferences should resolve your Apple Mail issue. As 
Shawn mentioned, you will need to recreate these accounts which should 
be a pretty straight forward process.

Good luck.

Hai
On Feb 6, 2014, at 7:52 AM, BBS > wrote:


Hi Helena. That is an odd problem for sure, and have never had that 
happen to me before. The only thing I could suggest is to delete your 
mail accounts and reconfigure them. I know it'll be a pain in the a** 
to do that, but that's all I can suggest at this point. Hopefully 
others will chime in about this. Let us know if that fixes your problem.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

On Feb 5, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Helena Fehr > wrote:



Hi, all!
For some reason I wanted to check my mail  on my MacBook Pro today, 
and no matter what I do if I press any button to go down the list to 
start seeing what's in my inbox, a dialog box pops up and says 
"Problem report for mail: mail has quit unexpectedly; click reopen 
to launch mail again; this report will be sent to apple 
automatically," and so on and so forth, and then you can either 
press ok or reopen default to quit and relaunch mail. I've restarted 
my Mac and gone through the process over and over but no matter what 
I do the result is the same. Does anybody know what the heck is 
going on here? So far as I know it worked until today. I can't 
remember the last time I tried it before today, but I remember 
checking my mail with no problems previously, and today is the first 
day this happened. There's also some garbage about about 
configuration settings or something in the detail thing, but I know 
darned well I've never had problems with it before, and now all of a 
sudden there's nothing I can do with my mail on my Mac. Thank 
goodness I've got my iPad, or I'd really be screwed. Can someone 
please help?






God Bless!!!
Helena


May The Lord bless you and protect you; May the Lord's face radiate 
with joy because of you; may He be gracious to you, show you His 
favour and give you His Peace (Numbers 6:24-26(.

In Jesus Name. Amen.

Sent from my iPad

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Today's Topic Summary

Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

  * magnification on the mac  [4 Updates]
  * click2flash  [4 Updates]
  * Gmail Issues are Starting To Get Hilarious
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  * Google Groups settings Web Interface: How to Change
Subscription to a Different Email Address
 [1 Update]
  * fix columns?  [1 Update]
  * how to select non contiguous items 
[4 Updates]
  * is there a key combo for getting webpage attributes like text
size and colour and so on with voice over
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  * 2nd Generation AppleTV and PlexConnect
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  * Updating iTunes  [2 Updates]
  * old mail showing up continually  [1
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  * Any experience with Dragon Dictate?
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  * System preferences and creating new user issue
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  * switching from gMail to iCloud mail
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magnification on the mac 



Anouk Radix mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> Feb 05 07:50PM +0100

Hi everyone,
I have been a blind mac user for years now. Some friends of
mine are still able to use magnification and some people ask me
for advice because supernova is crashy or jfw and magic are
crashy on their systems.
Are there people that can give an account how magnification
works on the mac and if it is comparable what you can get on a
windows pc with screenreading software?
Thanks in advance,
Greetings, Anouk,

erik burggraaf mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com>> Feb 05 02:07PM -0500

Hi, Zoom doesn't have the huge feature set of zoomtext, but it
does work very well.

For best performance you need a newer mac with the best display
possible, such as a macbook with retina display.

Make sure accessibility shortcuts are turned on.
Make sure smooth images is on.
Make sure mouse tracking is set to move the window when the
pointer reaches an edge.

You can also download a third party app to customize the
cursors and pointers on the mac so that you can have the red X
or the yellow X or whatever is most visible for you.

I have a sheet around here to do with best practices for
magnification which I could send you if that will help.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com



April mailto:aprilbrownsh...@g

Trahern Culver - Email bouncing

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email so I can get this resolved.


CB

On 8/28/14, 8:57 PM, trahern culver wrote:
hey all, i have the latest 64gb ipod touch with the latest o s i'm 
running mavrix on the mac side. i know how itunes works but i'm at my 
wits end with itunes when it comes to ipod management. so is there an 
accessable program  for mac  os10 that i can use to manage  my ipod 
touch?? your help with this question would be most welcome kind 
regards trey.

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KNFB Reader iPhone App

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Apparently the app is $100.

CB*
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*Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014):* The National Federation of 
the Blind 
, 
the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has 
applauded the release of KNFB Reader 
, 
a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the 
phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) 
technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print 
materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked 
with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with 
Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. 



Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: 
"The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years 
in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire 
access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to 
day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the 
Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, 
we have been interested in the development of better and more portable 
reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, 
labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, 
even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now 
revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us 
carry each day 
 
provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the 
menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in 
text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable 
Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives 
of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live 
the lives we want."


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Re: Changing email address

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Weird. I checked in the admin tools and I couldn't find either address. 
Want me to add floda...@gmx.com?


CB

On 9/15/14, 5:41 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote:

Chris

Would you know why the MacVisionaries list is still using thedog...@gmail.com 
and not floda...@gmx.com? Everytime I send something to 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com with the from field of floda...@gmx.com and not 
thedog...@gmail.com, I get a message from Googlegroups that I am not subscribed 
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Re: ftp client

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I also run across sftp as well which is also supported as a terminal 
command. sftp is the secure version of ftp which works better with 
firewalls and such. Regular ftp requires a lot of firewall ports to be 
open before it will function correctly as the protocol predates the need 
for firewalls.


CB

On 9/21/14, 11:17 PM, Tyler Thompson wrote:

If you don't want to pay you could use the mac terminal, it's free and there's 
ftp support built in. Just look up the ftp commands for the mac terminal. It 
supports sftp as well.


On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Jean  wrote:


Hello:
What are people using for ftp?  I know there was some discussion about a 
program called transfer but I am unable to find it in the app store.
All help appreciated,
Jean

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Re: descriptive video option on iOS 8.

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I think DVS is the keyword to search on and, unfortunately, only turns 
up 5 titles - all Pixar movies.


CB

On 9/21/14, 9:30 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
Monsters Inc., finding Nemo, and up. Or, just go into the iTunes Store 
and search for DVDs


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:20 PM, Alex Hall > wrote:


I don't have the link, but I'm sure Google can turn it up. There were 
onl a couple, as I said, and they weren't very interesting to me so I 
didn't save the link.
On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Jessica Moss > wrote:



Really, where can I find those?
On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Alex Hall > wrote:


iTunes has two or three videos with descriptions, last I looked. I 
don't think anything not marked as including descriptions will have 
them, sorry.
On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:58 PM, Jessica Moss 
mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Ok, when you say "on Itunes," I'm assuming, stuff you have to 
purchase, or could it simply be run of the mill stuff you already 
have in your library from another source, and you may get lucky 
and it may have descriptions with it?
On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Brent Harding > wrote:


I know Windows supposedly has a setting like this too, but never 
heard of anything using it. Now, if TV's and stuff had a separate 
setting for description vs Spanish, we wouldn't have to keep 
turning it on and off as we find Spanish that we don't want.


- Original Message -
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*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 7:19 PM
*Subject:*Re: descriptive video option on iOS 8.

My understanding is that it will automatically use
descriptions when available. How it knows if they are or not,
or where you would obtain the tracks that support this, I
have no idea. My personal pipe dream is that this indicates
an upcoming flood of described content on iTunes. It won't
happen, most likely, but you never know. I remain ever hopeful!
On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Jessica Moss
mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I found this when I was looking for something else under the
accessibility settings, so turned it on just to see what on
earth it was, but can't find anything on what it's supposed
to be about.  does anyone else have a clue?

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Re: sd reader

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While I haven't tried it, an SD card shows up on the Mac like any other 
volume that you can read/write files to. So you should be able to get 
access to it the same way you get access to your Mac files from the 
VMWare side.


CB

On 9/21/14, 7:51 PM, wayne17a wrote:


Hi I am running vm on a mbp and would like to know how I can access my 
card reader on the windows side so if some kind person could give me 
easy instructions on how to set this up I would be very grateful so 
thanks in advance


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Re: Getting to know U2

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I assume you're referring to this:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/u2-and-apple-plot-new-interactive-digital-music-format-20140918

CB

On 9/20/14, 4:13 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

Speaking of U2, I’ve heard that Apple and U2 are working on a new digital music 
format.
Not sure why they would do that.  It seems to me that we have enough of those, 
but it’s interesting.

On Sep 20, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Randy Drawdy  wrote:

Anyone curious about who is U2 might find this well written article from The New Yorker 
magazine interesting.  The title is "the Church of U2".

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/church-u2?utm_source=pocket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits



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Re: ftp client

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There are a lot of tutorials out there you can google but basically you 
open terminal and then type


ftp server.domain.com

where you put in the actual server you want to ftp to. After that it 
should prompt you for the username and password. Once you're in you can 
use the "ls" command to list what files are in the remote machine's 
directory and "get somefilename" to transfer a file from the remote 
machine to yours. If there is a folder on the remote machine you can do 
"cd somefoldername" to open that up and then ls again to get a list of 
files in there. To go back up a level you do "cd .." to go back to the 
parent. Likewise, you can do "lls" to get a local list of files on your 
drive. To transfer from your machine to theirs you type "put filename". 
To change the local directory you use "lcd". Two things that can 
sometimes trip people up. One is that the default local directory is 
usually /Users/yourfolder so before you start ftp you might want to do a 
"cd Desktop" or "cd Documents" since that's more likely where you want 
files copied from/to. Another trick is that ftp assumes text so if 
you're moving a sound, picture, video or other binary file you need to 
type "binary" before you do your put or get. Another handy pair is mget 
and mput to transfer multiple files at once. With these you can use the 
* as a wildcard which matches anything. So you could do "mget *.mp3" 
which would transfer all the files ending in mp3 from the current 
directory to your machine. By default it asks you to hit Y for Yes on 
each file match. If you're sure you want all of them then type "prompt" 
before doing mget or mput to turn off prompting. When you're done just 
type quit. While connected you can type "help" to get a list of 
supported commands.


This is how we rolled back in the dialup days. Be glad you don't have to 
deal with SLIP and PPP to do UUCP for your Usenet news feeds :)


Hope this helps.

CB

On 9/22/14, 11:32 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Really? Can I get some help with that please?
On Sep 22, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Brandon A. Olivares  
wrote:


Yes you can upload. It's the put command.

On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:


I don't think you can upload with that though, can you, unless something's 
changed?  I have an acount on my friend's server but you have to contribute, 
which is only fare, but I haven't gone on there much lately, because I haven't 
found anything that's even remotely accessible that I can do anything with, so 
haven't been able to upload anything.
On Sep 21, 2014, at 11:17 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:


If you don't want to pay you could use the mac terminal, it's free and there's 
ftp support built in. Just look up the ftp commands for the mac terminal. It 
supports sftp as well.


On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Jean  wrote:


Hello:
What are people using for ftp?  I know there was some discussion about a 
program called transfer but I am unable to find it in the app store.
All help appreciated,
Jean

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Re: Default font and size in TextEdit

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There are two default font settings in Preferences under the New 
Document tab. One for Plain Text and one for Rich Text.


As far as Comic Sans, that's a bit like asking what is the equivalent to 
the Microsoft Zune. Or at least many paragraphs have been wordsmithed 
about how the original font from Microsoft Bob should be banned. That 
said, if you google around you can find articles suggesting comparable 
fonts such as Chalkboard.


CB

On 9/24/14, 2:46 PM, The Believer wrote:
How does one set the default font and size in TextEdit? Is this only 
per document or can this be set as default for new documents?


Is there an equivalent font to Comic Sans MS in Windows?

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Re: Default font and size in TextEdit

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Hmm. When I tried it I was dropped into the font picker widget. Seemed 
to sometimes land on size and sometimes elsewhere. Anyway, if I did 
VO-right enough times I eventually got to some tables, one of which was 
called "family list table". In there I could arrow up/down to pick a 
font from the alphabetical list or I could quickly type "Ch" to jump to 
Chalkboard and then hit command-w to close the font picker widget. To 
the right of the Change button it then read the newly selected font default.


CB

On 9/24/14, 11:16 PM, The Believer wrote:
Ok, went into Preferences and there is actualy a Comic Sans MS font. 
Bit there I got stuck, cannot seem to set that font. First time I 
tried, I could not get it to take. 2nd time I tried, there are no 
fonts at all in the list. Will try it again shortly.


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On 9/24/2014 2:10 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

There are two default font settings in Preferences under the New
Document tab. One for Plain Text and one for Rich Text.

As far as Comic Sans, that's a bit like asking what is the equivalent to
the Microsoft Zune. Or at least many paragraphs have been wordsmithed
about how the original font from Microsoft Bob should be banned. That
said, if you google around you can find articles suggesting comparable
fonts such as Chalkboard.

CB

On 9/24/14, 2:46 PM, The Believer wrote:

How does one set the default font and size in TextEdit? Is this only
per document or can this be set as default for new documents?

Is there an equivalent font to Comic Sans MS in Windows?

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Re: Accessible Morse code tutors

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Hmm. There are a bunch of training apps for iOS but none of the ones I 
found were free and I wasn't interested enough to pay to find out.


CB

On 9/25/14, 4:53 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:

I know it's not necessary anymore, but are there any accessible Morse code 
tuners for either Mac or iOS?

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Re: Default font and size in TextEdit

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What version of OSX are you on? I'm on 10.9.5. If you're on an earlier 
version, maybe this is something they fixed.


CB

On 9/25/14, 4:06 PM, The Believer wrote:
Its strange. Both the family list and typeface tbales are empty, 
regardless of which category is selected. But all is well in Font 
Book. I activated the Restore Defaults button which did nothing for 
the empty tables. Wish I knew what I hroke in there.


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On 9/25/2014 9:41 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hmm. When I tried it I was dropped into the font picker widget. Seemed
to sometimes land on size and sometimes elsewhere. Anyway, if I did
VO-right enough times I eventually got to some tables, one of which was
called "family list table". In there I could arrow up/down to pick a
font from the alphabetical list or I could quickly type "Ch" to jump to
Chalkboard and then hit command-w to close the font picker widget. To
the right of the Change button it then read the newly selected font
default.

CB

On 9/24/14, 11:16 PM, The Believer wrote:

Ok, went into Preferences and there is actualy a Comic Sans MS font.
Bit there I got stuck, cannot seem to set that font. First time I
tried, I could not get it to take. 2nd time I tried, there are no
fonts at all in the list. Will try it again shortly.

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On 9/24/2014 2:10 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

There are two default font settings in Preferences under the New
Document tab. One for Plain Text and one for Rich Text.

As far as Comic Sans, that's a bit like asking what is the 
equivalent to

the Microsoft Zune. Or at least many paragraphs have been wordsmithed
about how the original font from Microsoft Bob should be banned. That
said, if you google around you can find articles suggesting comparable
fonts such as Chalkboard.

CB

On 9/24/14, 2:46 PM, The Believer wrote:

How does one set the default font and size in TextEdit? Is this only
per document or can this be set as default for new documents?

Is there an equivalent font to Comic Sans MS in Windows?

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Re: Library folder access

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At least on Mavericks the columns work like filters starting with 
Collection then Family and finally Typeface. So if the Collection has 
something selected then that filters the Family list to just ones in the 
particular collection such as Engligh, Fun or Modern. So I'd check that 
in the Collection list you have All Fonts picked and then check what 
shows up in the Family list.


CB

On 9/26/14, 4:22 PM, The Believer wrote:

Tim and Cheryl,
Thanks. I may be chasing up the wrong tree. Yesterday when I was 
trying to change the default font used by TextEdit, when I had the 
font list open the first time, I was not sure what I was to do there. 
Somehow I ended up losing the whole font list and now I get "empty 
table" when I try to browse the family list table.


This is why I wanted to access the library folder to see if I deleted 
the fonts from the user folder. They seem to be there so am at a loss.


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On 9/26/2014 12:26 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

A simple way to get the access the Library folder that's within your 
Home folder is to go up to the menubar with VO-m, right to the "Go" 
menu and VO-down to the Library folder, then press return. Notice 
that I said "VO-down", if you just use the arrow keys without the VO 
keys, then Library will not be available but will with the VO keys 
down. this is a sneaky MacOS trick that stems from the sighted user 
experience. For sighted users, when they hold down the Option key 
while in the various menus, extra menu items show up, like this one.


HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

I believe your home directory Library folder is hidden by default. 
Here's how to make it visible. This started with Lion. In Mavericks 
there's a setting to toggle this folder's visibility but in Mountain 
Lion it's a bit more challenging. If you just need to access it once 
in a while, maybe the easiest thing is just to go to terminal and type


open ~/Library

Note the tilde slash in front of library.

If you want more than that, here's an article that is sure to 
entertain you or drive you nuts!


http://www.macworld.com/article/1161156/view_library_folder_in_lion.html 





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Runnlng Mountain Lion. Where is this folder in Finder? Thanks.

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Re: Up half the night trying to change my IP address… Help!!!!

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What have you tried so far? I assume you tried turning the wifi off and 
back on again? Did you try and renew DHCP Lease (unter the TCP/IP tab in 
the advanced settings)? Can you get the IP address, subnet mask, router 
and DNS address from one of your working devices, turn that device off 
and then manually config that on your Mac's wifi to see if that works?


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On 9/29/14, 9:27 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:

Hi.  I've already tried the manual route; as stated, all other choices beside DHCP are 
dimmed, and I don't know why. As for the router, the documentation is not accessible, so 
I have no clue how to go about updating the firmware. All other devices in the house are 
connecting just fine, and the WiFi is showing on my status menu as present and on,  but 
there is a "self-assigned IP address" and it says it cannot connect to the 
Internet. I cannot figure out how to change this IP address. I cannot erase it. I am at a 
complete loss.
Christine

On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:


It sounds like there is some bad interaction between your Mac's DHCP client and 
your router's DHCP server since your upgrade.  If your ISP already knows about 
it, presumably they already know about it.

Do you have control over the router?  If it has firmware, you should try to 
locate the latest version, and upgrade it.  If the router is crippled by design 
because your ISP has control over it, my recommendation would be to buy your 
own router.

You could try setting your IP address manually.  In System Preferences, 
Network, you select your interface, then choose to configure IP manually; if 
it's not on the main screen, press Advanced and it's there on the TCP/IP tab.  
You've got to use an IP address and subnet mask compatible with your other 
devices; pick an IP not likely to be used, like near the end of your range.  
You could use Google DNS (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4) until you learn the addresses of 
other servers of your ISP, if desired.

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Re: Up half the night trying to change my IP address… Help!!!!

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You verified which wifi network you are connecting to? Just want to make 
sure you aren't accidentally picking up a neighbor's network. Does it 
have a unique name? There are a lot of wifi networks out there called 
Linksys or the like.


CB

On 9/29/14, 10:21 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:

Yes, tried all of these things, as per Apple Communities.

On Sep 29, 2014, at 10:18 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


What have you tried so far? I assume you tried turning the wifi off and back on 
again? Did you try and renew DHCP Lease (unter the TCP/IP tab in the advanced 
settings)? Can you get the IP address, subnet mask, router and DNS address from 
one of your working devices, turn that device off and then manually config that 
on your Mac's wifi to see if that works?

CB

On 9/29/14, 9:27 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:

Hi.  I've already tried the manual route; as stated, all other choices beside DHCP are 
dimmed, and I don't know why. As for the router, the documentation is not accessible, so 
I have no clue how to go about updating the firmware. All other devices in the house are 
connecting just fine, and the WiFi is showing on my status menu as present and on,  but 
there is a "self-assigned IP address" and it says it cannot connect to the 
Internet. I cannot figure out how to change this IP address. I cannot erase it. I am at a 
complete loss.
Christine

On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:


It sounds like there is some bad interaction between your Mac's DHCP client and 
your router's DHCP server since your upgrade.  If your ISP already knows about 
it, presumably they already know about it.

Do you have control over the router?  If it has firmware, you should try to 
locate the latest version, and upgrade it.  If the router is crippled by design 
because your ISP has control over it, my recommendation would be to buy your 
own router.

You could try setting your IP address manually.  In System Preferences, 
Network, you select your interface, then choose to configure IP manually; if 
it's not on the main screen, press Advanced and it's there on the TCP/IP tab.  
You've got to use an IP address and subnet mask compatible with your other 
devices; pick an IP not likely to be used, like near the end of your range.  
You could use Google DNS (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4) until you learn the addresses of 
other servers of your ISP, if desired.

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Re: File viewing mac on linux and vice versa.

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Just wanted to point out the both SMB and NFS are built into OSX so you 
pretty much just have to set it up. SMB is little more than turning on a 
checkbox is the sharing preferences while NFS is, well, NFS which is 
just as easy/hard on OSX as on a linux box. Nice thing with SMB is that 
will work for Windows users as well.


CB

On 9/28/14, 8:10 PM, Jason White wrote:

Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I have a vinux system on a pc which i want to use to view files on my mac.
BUt i really don't know how to make this work properly.

You could use NFS or SMB file systems to make the files on the Mac available
over the network to your Linux system. Then use NFS or Samba client on Linux
to access them.


Remember that this is under the graphical unity environment so i am really
not sure if any one knows.  /A

If you're running Unity, this means your Linux distribution is based on
Ubuntu. You may receive better assistance by asking in an Ubuntu-related
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Re: Resolution To My Sox Audio Issue

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I have Sox installed via macports and had no issues. I just do a sudo 
port selfupdate and then a sudo port upgrade outdated. Usually have to 
do that after I upgrade xCode or the OS.


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On 9/29/14, 9:49 AM, Phil Halton wrote:

Thanks for posting your results. I wish more people would do this. The 
solutions we find our valuable to all, especially since they wind up in the 
archives and we can find answers to the same questions later.

Sent from my IPhone



On Sep 28, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Daniel  wrote:

I was able to resolve my audio issue by upgrading Sox to the latest version. I 
guess it pays to use the latest version of software.

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Re: Up half the night trying to change my IP address… Help!!!!

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Glad to hear the network problem is solved.

Usually running fast RAM slowly is better than trying to make slow RAM 
go fast (overclocking). If you are getting the RAM at the store and 
having the Genius folks install it then you should be in good hands 
although you'll probably be paying a premium price. A 4GB PC3-8500 
1066Mhz 1.5v memory module is about $40-$60 US from newegg.


CB

On 9/29/14, 7:06 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

OK, so here's the scoop regarding my Internet conductivity issue after 
upgrading to Mavericks, followed  by a memory upgrade question.


Last night, after upgrading to Mavericks I was showing my WiFi connection but 
could not connect to the Internet.  I tried using Diagnostics and the 
Assistant, the latter after having deleted the service and inputting 
information manually.  No matter what I did, however, I kept getting a 
self-assigned IP address.
I called my ISP and they told me to call Apple.
After work, I did so:

1. Because this was an update, the MacBook was using my key-chain to try to 
connect, but because the router often changes, the upgraded computer was using 
old info, and I needed to clear everything out . . . every network I ever 
joined, and start fresh.

2.  After selecting and deleting all services and profiles, I added my WiFi 
network after finding it in the table of offered networks, putting in the 
password, and joining.
It is now working fine.


However, my 13-inch mid-2010 MacBook has only 2GB of memory, and can only be 
upgraded to 4.  It is running horribly slowly, from applications loading to 
response time when typing. There also continue to be some mini-freezes.

The Apple rep told me when I upgrade the memory I will achieve a substantial 
difference.
I have a Genus Bar appointment scheduled for tomorrow, at which I originally 
believed I would be faced with the decision to replace the battery or get a new 
computer.  Now I am thinking of getting the memory upgrade and trying that on 
for a while.

However, and here comes the question:
According to my MacBook specs, I've got 2 GB 1067 MHz DDR3.  In the Apple store, the 
only and only 4 GB memory module listed says "4 GB 1866 MHz DDR3.
Is this doable?  If not, what can I do?
Thanks to all for the suggestions and support.
Christine



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Re: ripping cd in itunes

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If you check the archives you'll find lots of lively discussion about 
this. Short answer is that iTunes does not rip DVDs and commercial ones 
are encrypted to keep most people from even trying. In the US the mere 
act of breaking encryption is illegal due to the DMCA laws and they 
trump fair use laws. That said, there are tools which will copy DVDs to 
your hard drive just fine such as RipIt. Once you have those files they 
are quite large and you might want to re-compress them to something 
smaller with handbrake.


CB

On 9/30/14, 10:25 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

Hello,
When I insert a dvd, it automatically opens in dvd viewer.  How can I rip the 
tracks in iTunes?

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Re: Changing email address

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Just checked and you are subscribed with the name of Angus MacKinnon. 
You can change this to something else but you can't modify the email 
address. If you want to switch to another email address let me know and 
I can manually add the new address to the group and then you can delete 
the old one. Is this what you were looking for or are you just having 
trouble changing your name in the group?


CB

On 9/29/14, 8:32 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote:

Chris

I am confused as well. I went to the main Google Groups site to change the Send 
To email address since I have a number of Google Groups and I can not find the 
Send To address field. On Saturday September 27, 2014 and did something to have 
nearly 3900 emails I have not seen before download to my InBox and Archive 
Mailboxes. I would just like to find the Send To address field in Google Groups 
first. Can you help me Find the Send To address field?

Angus MacKinnon



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Re: Changing email address

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Well, I can't do much about the other groups but I attempted to add your 
new flodabay address with no success. Google says there is already a 
member of the group with that address but that it might be a secondary 
or alternate address. Want me to try and remove your gmail.com account 
and add your gmx.com account?


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On 9/30/14, 2:14 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote:

Chris

The name is fine. I just want all Google Groups email to go to 
floda...@gmx.com. Iam starting to get very fustrated with Google Groups. I just 
want to change the email address for all Groups to floda...@gmx.com

Angus MacKinnon



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Google Docs

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Noticed some press about improved accessibility and wondered if anyone 
had tried it. I tried reading a Google Docs Spreadsheet and ran into an 
issue where the file had the first couple rows locked (headings for the 
columns) and I couldn't get past them to get to the real stuff after the 
headings. I was able to at least navigate around pretty well which is 
better than before but I'm still unable to get very far with the locked 
rows bug. They do say that you can contact them for phone support on 
accessibility so maybe I'll have to take them up on it.


https://support.google.com/docs/answer/1632201

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Re: Use FaceTime for phonecalls?

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I know for the recipient it rings both phones. Both my parents have 
iPhones on one AppleID so when I use FaceTime to call them both of their 
phones ring and I get whichever one answers first.


CB

On 5/29/15 9:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

2 iPhones on the same wifi network using the same apple ID? Honestly, I don’t 
konw what would happen in such an instance.

On May 29, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Shaf  wrote:

What if you have 2 iPhones? How can you select a specific phone to make the 
call from?

On 5/29/2015 5:05 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

First thing, if you want to place a call over wifi using the cell connection on 
your iPhone, you need to enable this in FaceTime preferences. So check iPhone 
cellular calls.

If you just want to use face time audio though, when you press the FaceTime 
audio button, and the pop up appears, select the first option which is FaceTime 
audio. If you wish to dial a phone number using the cell connection on your 
iPhone, select the phone number in the menu. Keep in mind, both your Mac and 
iPhone need to be on the same wifi network for this to work.

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker


On May 29, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Gary Price  wrote:

Afternoon everyone!

Before I got this new Macbook Pro, fellow list member and my friend Christopher 
Hallsworth said that you can use FaceTime on the Mac for phone calls.
How do I achieve this?

I want to surprise my friend John Haill at some point. But see he is out an 
awful lot, so need to ring his iPhone.

I have used FaceTime for a friend Lewis Crack, and I see when I press the 
FaceTime audio button a little menu pops up.

Thanks very much. I look forward to any responses.

Take care.
Speak soon!

Gary Price
Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.

This address is for personal contact:
garypric...@icloud.com

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Re: trying to root my moto G using terminal on the mac

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I know nothing about fastboot but usually the $ means a prompt where you 
type stuff, not part of the actual command to be typed. Anyway, few 
things I would check.


Where is the fastboot executable file located? If it's in /usr/local/bin 
then just try doing


cd /usr/local/bin

then you don't have to worry about whether it's in your path or not, 
although that one usually is. You can see all the paths terminal will 
check to find executable files by doing


echo $PATH

Anyway, once you're in the same directory as fastboot I'd check the 
permissions by just doing


chmod 755 fastboot

Then you can make sure terminal looks in your current directory by 
preceding the command with dot slash


./fastboot oem get_unlock_data

Apparently there are multiple versions of this tool so make sure you got 
the Mac one. Some distros actually call it fastboot-mac.


CB

On 6/3/15 5:32 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Hi,  I think there's a problem with what I'm trying to do.

I've installed fastboot in /usr/local/bin
Then tried this command
$ fastboot oem get_unlock_data

I get $ no such file or command.

So I tried without the $ and got:
"permission denied"

Then I tried:
  sudo fastboot oem get_unlock_data
I typed my password and hit enter and got:
No such file or directory /usr/local/bin/fastboot

Next I did an LS and I could clearly see that fastboot is in /usr/local/bin.  I 
also checked for case and found there were no misplaced capitals.

I'm using the instructions for unlocking a boot loader from the motorola 
website which you have to log in to get.

It reads:

1 Put your device in fastboot mode (power off, then press the power and volume 
down buttons simultaneously).
2 On your desktop, open a command prompt or terminal, and go to the directory 
where you installed the Android SDK tools (or make sure fastboot is in your 
$PATH)
3 At the prompt, type
$ fastboot oem get_unlock_data
4 The returned string will be used to retrieve your unlock key. Example: On a 
Windows Desktop, the returned string format would be
blah blah,
On a Mac OS Desktop, the returned string format would be
blah blah,

Does anyone see what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

Erik Burggraaf
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Re: installing windows on a mac questions

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VMWare Fusion, like most virtualization systems, stores all the Windows 
data on a fake C drive which shows up on the Mac side as a giant 
multi-GB file which grows as you store more stuff on the Windows side. 
That package file can be placed anywhere you want, including external 
drives. VMWare might ask you if you moved or copied it when you do but 
after that it should work just fine. You can also tell it where to 
create a new virtual machine and just point it to your external drive. A 
NAS drive would probably also work but it might be kind of slow compared 
to a local drive.


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On 6/8/15 8:32 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:

When using Fusion it should be possible. Chose to save the Windows.exe file or 
what the name is on the external drive during the Fusion installation first 
maybe and then also the windows.exe file of course. Remember i could do that a 
while back. At least, the windows.exe started from the external drive. Don’t 
have at the moment, but will install fusion etc. at the end of this year.

If you try the guide linked, let me know if it works. Read the comments from 
users below the guide on the site.

Take care

6. juni 2015 kl. 01:44 skrev Ted Phillips :

One of my problems here is that I only have a 120 GB hard drive, and there is 
only about 40 GB left on it.  I’m sure that’s not enough to install windows.  
If there is a way to run it on an external drive using fusion or virtual 
machine, I would be interested in knowing if it could be done.  I have 
installed lots of music software to record with on here, so don’t have lots of 
room left.

On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Rob  wrote:

Why not use the Win7 PE Disk?
It has NVDA, and talks you through the install.
it even contains setup files for all the Windows 7 installs.
you will need a USB sound card to hear NVDA while installing Windows 7.

On 6/5/2015 5:30 PM, Eileen wrote:

Hello,

The partition is completed in the bootcamp assistant while you have speech from voiceover: I 
used a variety of apps from my iPhone6 including: KNFB Reader, BeMyEyes, and Facetime. With 
the KNFB Reader, I increased the brightness to 100%. I was able to capture the text on the 
screen. I used BeMyEyes to confirm that I was on the right drive and to format it correctly. 
However, the issue that I came into into was that I couldn't get the cursor down into the 
right-hand corner to press the "next" button. That's when I changed to using 
Facetime. Also, on Applevis there's an article on how to install Windows without sight 
"to bootcamp. Although the sequence of the dialog screens in 8.1 were not in the same 
order, it gave me the keystrokes to use. Hth.

Best,
Eileen"

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:05 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:

Hi. Speaking of windows on the mac, I need to reinstall windows seven
ultimate 64 bit on a newly created bootcamp partition.

How did you get around having no speech during the first part of the
process where you had to select the default partition and format it to
ntfs before continueing?

the unattended xlm file route doesn't work for seven for me as it
totally erased my drive by default. That option worked great for
installing win xp via bootcamp but I take it that is no longer an
option for windows seven or later?

Thanks,

Cameron.




On 6/5/15, sadam ahmed  wrote:
Hi Ted,

Both Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 work well.

Running Windows 7 myself but did utilise Windows 8.1 on my old clasic
MacBook Pro for about 16 months. ( I believe the new MacBook Pros and the
MacBook only support Windows 8 or 8.1 happy to be corrected on this point
however).

Of course another option is to wait until Microsoft takes the wrappings off
Windows 10.

The official date of release is July 29.

What ever option you choose it'll be a great experience!

Best regards,

Sadam Ahmed

Certificate IV in International Trade

Vocational College of Business

RMIT University

LinkedIn:

https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/


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On 2 Jun 2015, at 5:19 am, Ted Phillips  wrote:

Hi all.  I have some questions about installing windows on a separate
partition.  Since I am running a macbook pro, and only have about 40 of
120 GB available, Can I install windows on an external hard drive and use
it?  Next, Since I'm running Yosemite, what OS do I have to go with if I
do this?  I have windows 7 and windows 8 available.  Thanks for any and
all input.

Ted Phillips

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Re: Google groups.

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I didn't see a reply to this and I've never actually changed my email 
address so I don't know if there is a way. With your login being tied to 
your email address it seems like it would be difficult to just change 
your address. I know a number of folks have subscribed with their new 
address and then asked me to unsubscribe their old address. That might 
be the easiest way.


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I believe you're going to need to subscribe again, using the BellSouth 
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Hi,
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Thanks,
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Re: Malware

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As a followup on this, my parents came for a visit this past weekend so 
I had them do the adawaremedic thing and it cleaned up a bunch of goo. 
My Dad said his machine is now running much faster and Safari doesn't 
redirect to weird random adware sites anymore.


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On 5/16/15 11:41 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

Hi,
Go to thesafemac.com.

they have an app called adwaremedic.  It scans for adware and other stuff like 
that.  It’s free and works great on my end.  I use it in conjunction with clams.

hth,
Caitlyn


On May 16, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

Hi,

I just used an antivirus scanner on a mac for the first time. ClamXav. No 
virus. This is a antivirus scanner as you know. My question is: is there a good 
malware/spyware scanner compatible with voice over you know of?

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Re: synchronise files/folders privately

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So if your iphone/ipad is synched/backed up to your Mac via iTunes then 
all the files are local on the Mac, not in icloud. If you could set 
iTunes to store these backups in a network drive from your NAS, would 
that not get you where you want to be?


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On 6/10/15 4:43 PM, William Windels wrote:

Hello all,
I would like to sync files/folders with different devices: iphone/ipad and also 
mac computers.
There are many cloud-services that can handle this but I would like to store it 
privately.
For this, and other tasks, I have a nas device from qnap.
It would be so nice If I can put files/folders on my mac, they are synchronized 
to me nas and after synching , they are offline available on my mac and 
iOS-devices…

I tought bitorent sync could handle this task but I can’t see yet how it should 
work for me.
Qsync, a plugin for the qnap nas should also handle the job but the sync 
program for the mac seems not to work correctly.

If there are any other plugins, experiences or possibilities I can look for, it 
would be great to hear of you.

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Re: Piping sound to another device?

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I might also point out that if you have a nice receiver you might want 
to connect it using something other than blue tooth. Your Mac has 
optical audio outputs so you can use that for very high quality digital 
audio to most receivers which have optical inputs. Of course that still 
leaves you in a bind to redirect VO to some other output but maybe VO 
could go to a bluetooth headset or speakers instead.


CB

On 6/14/15 12:17 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:

Open voiceover utility, go to sound, and choose built-in output as the output 
device.
All voiceover speech and sounds should now go through the built-in sound 
hardware while everything else goes through the bluetooth.
  
On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:57 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:


Hi there,

I’ve got an 11 Inch Mid 2013 Macbook air, and I’ve got a set of speakers 
plugged in to the headphone jack that I normally use for computer sound.  I 
also have a very nice hi-fi receiver that I’d like to use.  Is it possible that 
I would be able to pipe the voiceover sound though the headphone port, and, 
take all the other computer sound effects, streaming music etc, and put it 
through my receiver?  It does have a bluetooth connection.
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Re: Apple watch voices

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I don't have a watch but I wonder if the frequency range of the voices 
matter? I know it takes more power/bigger speakers to reproduce bass 
notes so it could be that a male Daniel voice pushes the limits more 
that a higher pitched Samantha.


CB

On 6/15/15 5:09 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

Yes, Samantha is less noticeable. The other sounds on the Watch sound great 
with no distortion. It almost sounds like the other voices are at the lower 
quality but I have nothing to say this is true. They just don’t sound good on 
my particular Watch and Samantha sounds OK.

I agree that they did a nice job with the small audio on the Watch.
Jenine Stanley
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On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi Jenine and Graham,

Just by way of a counterpoint, I barely notice the distortion.  I'm using 
Samantha, so it may just be that it's less pronounced, but honestly, if Jenine 
hadn't written her message, I wouldn't have even thought about it.  I'm betting 
that the distortion has more to do with the tiny speaker than with a problem 
with the voice.  I actually think Apple's done a good job of pumping the sound 
out, and some distortion, IMO is inevitable under the circumstances.  The other 
thing I'd mention is that you're listening to the voice for much shorter bits 
of language than you would on a Mac or an iPhone, so something that might 
really grate on your nerves if you're say reading a book, is less offensive if 
you are just checking the time or something like that, at least for me.

Just my $.02.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:

Graham, Donna is corrrect. The one thing to keep in mind that I’ve found is 
that all of the voices tend to distort at the highest volume, even  Samantha. 
The Karen and especially Daniel voices distort at around 75% volume versus the 
95% at which Samantha starts to distort.

The voices need work. Don’t blame you for hating the Daniel voice. Give me 
Oliver from the Mac.
Jenine Stanley
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Hi,

Does anyone know if it is possible to change the voice on the apple watch? In 
the uk we get that horrible daniel voice which i dispise. If it could be 
changed to the karen voice i'd likely invest.

Kind regards

Graham


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Re: menus on web pages causing problems

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On web pages there are real menus created using the select element and 
options within that select. Some sites choose to fake this behavior with 
piles of spans, divs, css and javascript event handlers. There are lots 
of reasons they do this such as making a consistent look and feel 
between different platforms or funky hierarchical menus. Some developers 
create these themselves from scratch but most use various toolkits like 
jQueryUI or DOJO. Depending on what toolkit they pick the menus have 
widely varying degrees of accessibility. The "native" menus work just 
fine in Safari but depending on what site you are on the fake ones might 
have missed a keyboard event or left out some accessible rich internet 
application (ARIA) markup. I suspect most of the time the fake menus 
(and sliders, and modal dialogs and…) are not implemented correctly 
rather than it being a problem with voiceover.


CB

On 6/17/15 4:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

I have had this problem.  I actually thought at the time something was wrong 
with the web site.  To overcome this, I'd visit the same site on my Work's 
Windows machine.  I know I'm cheating.

Kawal.
On 17 Jun 2015, at 21:12, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

Ditto.  It’s a problem.  When you find a page, tell Apple, for heaven’s sake, 
or it’ll never get sorted out.

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Re: skipping youtube ads on the mac

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I think most ad blockers work by blocking access to known ad servers on 
the internet. Most web site ads are not served by the site itself but 
for YouTube this is not the case. The video you want and the 'pre-roll' 
ad all come from youtube's own servers so you can't block the ad without 
also blocking the content. Maybe somebody has already figured out 
another way but the typical blocker isn't going to help here.


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On 6/21/15 10:04 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
I find that, when a video loads and an ad starts, I should not touch 
anything. As soon as VO announces "ad can be skipped", I tab once and 
always land on the "skip ad" button; space will then skip the ad. If I 
move around at all, though, tabbing once will not land me on that 
button, so I've learned to not touch anything until the video is 
playing and I know if I can skip the ad or not.


Interesting idea about ad blockers. I didn't think they would work on 
Youtube, but that would be really great. I'll have to try one.
On Jun 21, 2015, at 7:08 AM, Shaf > wrote:


Use an adblocker

On 6/21/2015 6:06 AM, joseph big wrote:

hello list members

how to skip youtube adds on the mac?

thank you in advance.

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Re: Remote Control for Mac?

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I just tried this between two Macs I have here at my desk with the 
latest OSX but got no love. I could bring up the screen sharing just 
fine and turn on voiceover on the remote mac but none of the audio came 
through. So I could hear the second machine talking but on the first 
machine there was no audio except the local voiceover on there. In other 
words, if the second machine had been in a remote location there is no 
way I could hear what voiceover was saying.


That said, I thought this came up a few years ago and some folks figured 
out a way to set up Skype on the remote machine with auto-answer turned 
on and routed voiceover so Skype could transmit it. In other words, a 
second app just for the audio when screen sharing, but that's a lot of 
pre-planned setup.


I heard that years ago iChat screen sharing would send audio so maybe 
Messages would do it as well. I think they used a plugin called Chax 
which would auto accept the iChat screen share request.


Some other old posts talk about using Soundfly to do something similar 
to Skype but just on your local network. In other words, two apps again 
for remote control with audio.


zoom.us claims to share both the screen and audio but I haven't tried this.

CB

On 6/22/15 7:35 AM, Shaf wrote:

Screen sharing is not accessible. Have you tried it?

On 6/22/2015 4:31 AM, rashantha de silva wrote:


Screen sharing is built in. You can also access the app. Put in an ip 
address and your done or you can use a vnc app.


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Hi,

Is there a fully accessible remote control client for Mac? I need
it to
do everything Teamviewer on Windows does including transmit any
sound
output.


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Re: Remote Control for Mac?

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Microsoft Remote Desktop is free but it only lets you connect to Windows 
boxes from your Mac, not the other way around and not Mac to Mac.


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On 6/22/15 3:40 PM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hello,   I am sure on the app store microsofts remote desktop can be bought or 
maybe it’s free,   on window’s there is an option to play the audio from your 
computer to the other connected computer don’t know if this is the same on the 
mac version but maybe worth taking a look?

On 22 Jun 2015, at 16:00, Alex Hall  wrote:

Last I checked, TeamViewer had the same problem: lack of audio pass-through. It 
worked well otherwise, but you still needed a separate audio connection.

On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:10 AM, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries 
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What about Teamviewer?
GB.

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Re: Building a website, what's the best way?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text 
edit in "plain text" mode and start writing your first html file. Then 
load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth 
adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd 
start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text 
edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format 
radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either 
.htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting 
html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open 
MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results.


There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web 
pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with 
markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, 
list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for 
example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. 
The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can 
manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events 
such as mouse clicks or keystrokes.


CB

On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote:

Hi,
I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. 
I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a   domain name. How 
do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are 
there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
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UT Chattanooga
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Re: thoughts about voiceover and its usage of the accessibility API

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I wonder if this will change with Swift being open source. From what I 
hear developers really like it, other than all the usual "just outta 
beta" kind of quirks. Seems like there has been this Apple Way of 
developing even back in the Orca Pascal days. Most of the dev work 
wasn't writing code in the native language, it was figuring out all the 
Apple APIs and getting the hooked together.


CB

On 6/22/15 9:42 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

My primary objection to the Apple accessibility approach is its complete Cocoa, 
language and runtime oligarchy.  You have to use the Objective-C runtime to 
interact with the accessibility “Protocol” and Apple doesn’t seem very 
interested in allowing or supporting any kind of access to that runtime except 
from Objective-C.  So, for all practical purposes, unless you are using Cocoa 
and Objective-C, or are subclassing any of Apple’s views (which was the 
approach taken by TK and QT until they started experiencing graphical 
corruption and they stopped, breaking accessibility), you simply don’t get 
accessibility.  We sometimes get lucky and a developer goes out of their way to 
ensure that their custom views are accessible, which requires work, but again, 
only in Objective-C, which pretty much guarantees that we won’t get it in 
otherwise non-Apple projects, such as the cross-platform toolkits.  Which is a 
great shame.  I have a note to take this up with Apple at some point; I think 
they need a C-based API because that is the lingua-franca of interface 
languages and all these cross-platform toolkits are written in it.  Note that 
this problem does not affect Windows because e.g. COM can be accessed through 
the ABI in C.  I dunno what the situation is on Linux nowadays, but last I 
looked it was all still GNOME and QT hadn’t yet made their bridge.  Is that 
still true?

Oh yeah, and just say “no" to screen scraping! :)



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Re: Building a website, what's the best way?

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Depends on what kind of pages and amount of traffic you will be serving. 
If it's mostly text content you won't need much bandwidth to serve up 
web pages. A commercial broadband service will probably be required to 
get a static IP, at least that's what Cox cable in my area required. 
With just 512kb up (about 50K per second) it works ok for basic web 
serving. A nice UPS battery backup can keep a Mac mini and a cablemodem 
going for quite a while. The web sharing checkbox is gone in preferences 
on OSX 10.10 but Apple still bundles the Apache web server, which you 
can turn on via terminal commands. You can still play and set things up 
to serve pages just to yourself on your local network before you go 
live. Registering a domain through somebody like GoDaddy is $10 for a 
year and up to $14.50 for 10 years. For that much it might make sense to 
register your domain before somebody else takes it even if it does 
nothing but sit there for a while.


CB

On 6/23/15 10:09 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Thanks, Krysti.  that's about what I thought, and right now I probably 
don't have a strong enough infrastructure to do it.  good to know, 
though, if we ever move back to a place where we get better internet 
service, I might give it a try.

Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Krysti .Power <mailto:happypuppy...@gmail.com>> wrote:


You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a 
static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port 
forwarding on your router


On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, "Donna Goodin" <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:


Hi all,

I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on
something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go
about being my own host?  My sites are currently hosted with a
group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting
them myself.
    Cheers,
    Donna
> On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can
put text edit in "plain text" mode and start writing your first
html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll
just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've
got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and
setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a
new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to
Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or
.html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting
html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can
open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results.
>
> There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google
around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is
the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content
is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style
Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a
certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex
bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content
or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse
clicks or keystrokes.
>
> CB
>
> On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never
done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I
need to get a   domain name. How do I do this? Is there an
accessible program to use one building a website are there
tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide.
>> Nancy
>>
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>> UT Chattanooga
>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse
spelling errors.
>>
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Re: Building a website, what's the best way?

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Right, I have the cheapest plan possible which was 512kb outbound or 
about 50K/second. My basic page is 141K and much of that is because of a 
few images so it takes about 3 seconds to load on initial view. I have 
all the static content set for caching so loading the page a second time 
comes in at well under 1 second. My site is really low traffic so that 
works and it gives me a nice mac-based playground to try things with. I 
don't think they even sell 512KB upload speeds anymore. I just set up 
port forwarding on the airport so all inbound requests to port 80 go to 
the mac mini.


CB

On 6/24/15 10:02 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

You're talking two different things here. when you're looking at
upload and download, usually that's measured in mbits. So 8 mbits
gives you 128 kbps up/down.
Now if you're using any kind of js, some of those are 32 (jquery,
bootstrap etc). css adds another say 16 which brings us to a grand
total of 48. If your webpage is 4 kb, that puts us at 52. Add another
couple for header information etc and we're now at 54. Two visitors at
once and you have what we call a saturated connection. Bandwidth feels
like a lot, but when you actually start sending data out it ends up
that what you thought of as a lot isn't anymore.

On 6/24/2015 9:53 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Depends on what kind of pages and amount of traffic you will be
serving. If it's mostly text content you won't need much bandwidth
to serve up web pages. A commercial broadband service will probably
be required to get a static IP, at least that's what Cox cable in
my area required. With just 512kb up (about 50K per second) it
works ok for basic web serving. A nice UPS battery backup can keep
a Mac mini and a cablemodem going for quite a while. The web
sharing checkbox is gone in preferences on OSX 10.10 but Apple
still bundles the Apache web server, which you can turn on via
terminal commands. You can still play and set things up to serve
pages just to yourself on your local network before you go live.
Registering a domain through somebody like GoDaddy is $10 for a
year and up to $14.50 for 10 years. For that much it might make
sense to register your domain before somebody else takes it even if
it does nothing but sit there for a while.

CB

On 6/23/15 10:09 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Thanks, Krysti.  that's about what I thought, and right now I
probably don't have a strong enough infrastructure to do it.
good to know, though, if we ever move back to a place where we
get better internet service, I might give it a try. Cheers,
Donna

On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Krysti .Power
mailto:happypuppy...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time
a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port
forwarding on your router

On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, "Donna Goodin" mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on
something I've been thinking about for a while.  How would I
go about being my own host?  My sites are currently hosted with
a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about
hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna

On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via
MacVisionaries

mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You
can

put text edit in "plain text" mode and start writing your
first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work.
You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing.
Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about
hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before
you create a new file go to preferences and set the format
radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in
either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you
can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file
somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review
the results.

There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google

around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is
the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the
content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading
Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings
a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most
complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the
content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such
as mouse clicks or keystrokes.

CB

On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote:

Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have
never

done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know
I need to get a   domain name. How do I do this? Is there an
accessible program to use one building a website are there

Re: Need Help Switching Email Addresses

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I sent you email to verify joining with the new address (always have to 
check to make sure it's not a spammer). Hadn't heard back from you yet.


CB

On 7/2/15 10:22 AM, Josh wrote:


Hello Everyone,

  I have set up an email address strictly dedicated to apple to try 
and lift some of the load that my current account is experiencing. Can 
someone help me with switching my email address. I went to the group’s 
page and had an apply option, but I pressed the wrong button and now I 
do not get the option to apply again when I visit that page. Any help 
will be greatly appreciated. I pressed the button right under where 
you put in your reason for joining and I think I needed to go down one 
more and press the button below it. Thank you for any help offered on 
this matter.


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Re: apple care

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I know in the past I've been able to visit an Apple store and get a 
phone exchanged for less than the cost of a new device. I had forgotten 
it was in my pocket and went swimming with it. At the time I think they 
charged me about $150-200 and I told them exactly what happened. That's 
been a few years ago when the iPhone 4 was new. It was money I didn't 
really want to spend but it was still far less than the cost of outright 
buying a new one. Maybe they do the same thing for laptops. There are 
stories elsewhere on the web of folks calling AppleCare for water in 
their laptops and being told it's not covered but being able to get a 
"spill repair" for way less than the cost of a new one. Still could be a 
non-trivial cost but better than buying a whole new unit. Other forums 
also mention having computer damage riders on their insurance covering 
this kind of thing so you might want to check into that. There are also 
3rd party repair shops which might have a lower cost than going through 
the official Apple channels such as ispillrepair.com. I've never used 
them but it might be worth a try.


CB

On 7/2/15 7:03 AM, May wrote:

Can't use what doesn't work, smiles.

As I said mother nature decided to blow rain into the window and it 
totally soaked the mac along with loads of other stuff.


May and LD Luna Moon!
www.canadianlynx.ca 

On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:25 PM, Grant > wrote:


AppleCare for a Mac is like an extended warranty, to the best of my 
knowledge. Accidental damage like this surely would not be covered. 
Your best bet would be to call apple or visit the genius bar to 
inquire what you're options are. You should discontinued use of the 
computer until you decide what to do, to avoid further damage.


Grant

On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:51 PM, May McDonald Homuth > wrote:


Hey everyone. Hopefully someone can answer my question. I'm so 
frustrated right now that I can't think straight.


Is there a place where I can go see if my mac is covered under apple 
care if it's killed by water?


My poor mac was just drowned in rain thanks to mother nature and 
soaking pretty much everything with blowing wind and loads of rain 
while I was out for lunch.


Sadly I can't call apple to ask them due to the fact it's a holiday 
here in Canada, grrr!!



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Re: satisfied with the new garageband

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I've never played with the pitch correction but I thought all the 
studios use autotune to get those singers on key.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Tune

Some folks even complain when they hear live vocalists now days because 
they've become so accustom to autotuned perfect pitch. I thought I read 
somewhere that some crazy large percentage of vocals in music today have 
hit autotune in their production chain.


CB

On 7/1/15 11:19 PM, Devin Prater wrote:

Hi all. The new garageband works pretty well, with what I do anyways. The new 
automated drummers work well too, and I just figured out how to use 
arpeggiators well too. Now I have to figure out how everyone makes the  vocal 
software instrument slide its pitch up and down and all. I don’t think its 
pitch bend, because its far more natural than any pitch bend wheel could ever 
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Re: One iTunes Library for two computers, can this be done?

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So the feature is gone or you're saying you no longer need it? It still 
seems to be there on 12.1.2. So if all my music was on one machine then 
I could turn on sharing and be able to access the tracks in that library 
from any other device on my home network, although I could only add 
tracks on the machine that hosts all the music.


CB

On 7/5/15 2:23 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Home sharing has, gone, at least for music.


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On 5 Jul 2015, at 17:33, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

Hi.

I wish to know if one can share one iTunes Library between two computers, 
namely, an I Mac and Mac Mini, over the same network please?  I am not very 
technical so something simple would be appreciated please.  I looked for Home 
sharing in the iTunes menus but it's not there since I updated to the 8.4 which 
contains Apple Music etc.

Someone from the list helped me to solve my Ring Tone query but now if someone 
else could tell me how I can have one iTunes Library for two computers then 
that would be great thank you.

Kawal.

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Re: Flash Player

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With Flash only being used in the browser, it might make sense to just 
disable it in the Security settings of Safari in the Allow Plug-ins 
Website Settings. It actually allows you block the Adobe Flash Player 
generally while allowing it to work on certain other sites such as 
youtube.com.


CB

On 7/7/15 5:58 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote:

Shaf

Thank you. I went to System Preferences and Shift + Tab to Flash. I then did a 
VO + Cmd F5 to move the mouse cursor to Flash and then did a left mouse click. 
I only get a option to remove Preference Pane and then entered my admin 
password.

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Re: upgrading to osx 10.4

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I had the same problem. The 10.10.4 update didn't show up in the app 
store for either of my machines. I ended up just manually downloading 
the update installer from the Apple web site here:


https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1819?locale=en_US

I updated one machine but not the other yet. Install was like any other 
Apple updater/installer.


CB

On 7/8/15 1:38 PM, Shaf wrote:

I think s/he means 10.10.4.
Go to App Store > Updates and you should see an update there.

On 7/8/2015 6:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

You wanna install Tiger?

Uh, why?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "don bishop" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:29 PM
Subject: upgrading to osx 10.4



Hi all,
I haven't used my mac for a few weeks because of other personal 
matters. The machine was left on and itunes and imovies updates were 
installed.


However I want to install osx 10.4, but can't see anythsh inthe 
menus or app store to allow me to install it. What am I missing?


Many thanks,

Don

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Re: Flash Player

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Depends on what the site is using to send their audio. With HTML5 it's 
no longer a requirement to use a plugin for audio or video but some 
sites still do it the old school way. The nice thing is you can add 
exceptions by domain to the flash plugin list.


CB

On 7/8/15 2:08 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

Chris,

Just wanted to ask, if one disables flash in safari, can you still listen to 
audio and tv streams like radio stations or tv stations?  I know it would be 
preferable to have flash disabled because of security issues but I don't want 
to lose the ability to listen to radio and tv stations in my browser.  Is there 
an alternative?  I have flip4mac on my macbook pro as well.  Will this deliver 
what I want?

Andrew

On 8 Jul 2015, at 17:50, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

With Flash only being used in the browser, it might make sense to just disable 
it in the Security settings of Safari in the Allow Plug-ins Website Settings. 
It actually allows you block the Adobe Flash Player generally while allowing it 
to work on certain other sites such as youtube.com.

CB

On 7/7/15 5:58 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote:

Shaf

Thank you. I went to System Preferences and Shift + Tab to Flash. I then did a 
VO + Cmd F5 to move the mouse cursor to Flash and then did a left mouse click. 
I only get a option to remove Preference Pane and then entered my admin 
password.

Vaquero and the human Angus


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iOS on the MacVisionaries list

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Pasting from my post back in April:

This comes up every now and then.

Short answer is that the list is what folks make of it.

Long answer is that the name is probably a bit of an anachronisim at 
this point. The list was founded years before iPhone OS became iOS and 
then became accessible with VoiceOver. So as more and more folks became 
iOS users the overlap with the existing Mac Voiceover users was an 
obvious extension. Today we have another shift as folks embrace the 
latest Apple gadget into the ecosystem and the marketplace of ideas 
shifts into high gear. We'll find discussions of various scanners, 
headsets and other devices folks hook up to their machine. A few even 
venture Jaws questions as more Windows folks come over to the Mac but 
bring their virtualized windows as a safety net as they come up to speed 
on voiceover. In some ways the list is self selecting or self limiting. 
If somebody dives to far into Windows land or goes too far down a rabbit 
hole nobody will bother to answer and the thread just dies. So for me 
it's all about Macs and their fun cousins that make the whole family 
rich and interesting. Not sure we're there yet but Apple's push is for 
the cloud, rather than the desktop, to be your digital hub. The 
expectation is the desktop/laptop will fade over time such that 
continuously connected devices will be our main means of consumption and 
composition.


CB

On 7/10/15 4:02 PM, Shaf wrote:

Surely this should be a topic for Viphone rather than Macvisionaries?
None of these apps are available for Mac.

Anyway, to address your topic, yes KNFB Reader is a lot better. But 
you should have researched that.

On 7/10/2015 8:51 PM, Todor Fassl wrote:
KnfbReader is on sale today for $75. The normal price is $99. Is 
knfbReader worth $75? I already own a license for textDetective. But 
I've heard that knfbReader is much better. Is that true?






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Re: iOS 9 public beta to be released today – MacDailyNews - Welcome Home

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I suspect that somewhere along the way to getting iOS Beta you agreed to 
abide by Apple's terms and conditions, including keeping what you find 
out to yourself. So while moderation of this list is a light touch with 
only content considered harmful to other members really getting any 
attention, the rest is post at your own risk. While Apple probably 
doesn't have resources to monitor every discussion on every public 
forum, there is no reason anything about iOS 9 on this list can't turn 
up in a quick google search.


CB

On 7/10/15 7:53 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

You may not follow “pointless’ rules, but seeing as this is a public forum, of 
which several members might not be willing and/or able to be a part of the beta 
program, that question and answer remains a valid point. I’d like to get a 
moderator’s opinion on whether or not public betas are allowed to be discussed.

On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Shaf  wrote:

I don't follow pointless 'rules'. Sorry.
There's a reason people share details of betas. I'm not an employee and I'm not 
contracting with them, therefore I'm under no legal requirement to respect 
their so-called confidentiality agreement.
On 7/10/2015 12:45 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Hi,

I’m going to post an answer from the FAQ page of the beta software program 
site, since there seems to be some confusion.
Is the Apple Beta Software program confidential?
Yes, the public beta software is Apple confidential information. Don’t install 
the public beta software on any systems you don't directly control or that you 
share with others. Don’t blog, post screen shots, tweet, or publicly post 
information about the public beta software, and don't discuss the public beta 
software with or demonstrate it to others who are not in the Apple Beta 
Software Program. If Apple has publicly disclosed technical information about 
the public beta software, it is no longer considered confidential.

On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:40 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

Yep. People can talk about it all they want.

On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:22 AM, Shaf  wrote:

It was never forbidden in the first place; people were taking Apple's so-called 
'NDA' at face value.

On 7/10/2015 7:43 AM, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all.
As now the beta program has changed its policy being more opened to all, is it 
still forbidden to talk about the new features regarding the accessibility, or 
not?
Thanks.
Gabriel.


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Re: proposal: the macvisionaries bug replication thread

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Cara Quinn is the moderator but I don't thing you need her approval. The 
list is self selecting and people will vote with their feet by 
participating in a particular discussion thread, or not. I applaud 
leadership by doing. Worst case is the thread dies of natural causes.


CB

On 7/12/15 9:47 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote:

This sounds great.  Or we can create another mail list for apple betas.

On Jul 12, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:

Hi All,

I see a lot of you have downloaded the public beta, and since apple’s amendment 
to disclosure of information regarding public beta bugs and features allows 
pretty much every news outlet out there to discuss these things, including all 
comments from individuals doing the same in these articles, it is fair to 
assume that it will not be a problem either for mailing lists and other 
communication channels.

So I propose that we create a thread for people to write up different 
inconsistencies they might find for others to replicate the issue so that those 
who have feedback assistant can report this to the engineers. The idea is for 
the more commonly occuring bugs to be squashed, by sheer number of reports. 
Some will not have the time to write the thing down properly but can definetely 
participate since legally those discussions are possible.

I first will need to ask a few people, then confirm this is possible since all 
of us are voice over users and all of us want voice over to be as good as it 
can get.

I believe there should be a few rules:
1-no feature requests as this would explode the thread
2-When someone finds an issue, there should be a structured method of 
explaining the process so that others can easily replicate it
3-All should be in the same thread in order not to hijack the mailing list with 
everyone reporting issues, which can clutter the list from certain everyday 
technical questions other non public beta users may have.

This is a proposal, and I’m not quite on the go ahead as I would like to make 
sure every angle is covered before really going through it.

A question: where are the moderators in this list? Can someone give me his/her 
email?

Thanks, and have an awesome week


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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

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How much RAM and CPU have you allocated to your virtual machine?

CB

On 7/12/15 9:50 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote:

It is really laggy when using jaws, whinnies, or nvda.

I need to use visual studio for work a lot, and well it just lags really bad.  
use of the keyboard feels very sluggish.  I know it will never be as fast as a 
native environment, but I think by this time in the vm software game they 
should have better speed.

I wonder if using the vm with out a screen reader is after, if the screen 
reader is the one wo is lagging things down.

Best,

On Jul 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

There's not a command line, and no.  It's still not accessible.

What's wrong with VMWare Fusion, if you don't mind me asking?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: parallels 10 accessibility


Hi!
I tried it two years ago and at that time it wasn’t accessible.
I don’t know if there’s a command line interface for it like virtualbox but i 
don’t think so.
/A

12 juli 2015 kl. 02:22 skrev Juan Hernandez :

Hi All,

I currently run vm fusion to load windows on my mac, so I can run some 
development software.  Fusion can be very laggy, and I do not have a slow 
computer.  I have a 2014 iMac, w/ i7 quad core 3.5ghz cpu, 32gb ram, and 1tb 
ssd.

I have read that parallels is after than fusion.

Is the parallels interface accessible with voiceover on the mac?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bst,

Juan

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Re: iMac digital output

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This is correct. I use this setup on my MacMini. Apple has had the 
optical output in the headphone jacks for many years. You'll get full 
5.1 surround sound off a DVD playing on your mac this way. The keywords 
to search for are "mini toslink" which is the optical connector that is 
shaped like a little headphone jack. You can get cables with that on one 
end and the more typical square connector to go into your sound system. 
Mine is an ancient Denon that keeps working after 15 years. You'll have 
to make sure you've picked the optical input on your sound system but 
the Mac should just automagically start sending all audio to the digital 
output when you plug in the cable. One downside is that the volume will 
no longer be controlled on the Mac with the volume up/down keys since 
you're now in the digital realm. Apps like iTunes that have volume 
controls will still do their thing but there is no longer a system 
volume. When I first set it up nobody knew what I was talking about when 
I went to the usual electronics stores, including one high end one. So 
online was really the only source for this otherwise cheap cable. Here 
is one example of the cable from Newegg for US $4:


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1HE0H47078&cm_re=mini_toslink-_-9SIA1HE0H47078-_-Product

CB

On 7/10/15 12:56 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

The iMac has a combo digital/analog output through the headphone jack similar 
to the one in the Airport Express.  So, as long as you have the adaptor to go 
from the 3.5 connection to the digital connection, it will work without an 
issue.  These adaptors can be found through Amazon and many other places.  You 
want a 3.5 mm to TOSLink converter which can either just be a small 3 or 4 cm 
long adapter or can be a cable with those connectors at each end.  I found one 
for about $6 Canadian dollars earlier this year.  I think it cost me as much to 
ship as the silly adaptor.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:00, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

You may keep it on list. I am interested in this case.

Take care

10. juli 2015 kl. 03:45 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland :

OK Greg, What type audio connecters do we have on the back of the IMac?  Let's 
start there.

You probably can get an adapter.  The only concern though I'd have is, you 
might also need to get a converter.  The reason is because you will need some 
way to convert the analog signal from the IMac to a digital signal.  I'm an 
audio engineer, so if you'd like to write me off list, I'll try to help you 
further.

clgillan...@gmail.com

Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Greg Kerbage
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:31 PM
Subject: iMac digital output

Hi list,
I have a 2015 iMak 5K and I would like to connect it up to my Logitech T H X 
speaker system that I have via a digital optical connection. Does anyone know 
how I could do this? There isn’t a digital output on the back of the machine.
Greg



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Re: another mail client?

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Thunderbird lags behind Firefox for accessibility. They are just getting 
going on making it accessible so some elements are readable but there 
are empty tables where the message list and folders should be. I'm 
hoping they will get that working someday soon.


CB

On 7/13/15 1:57 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:

Use ms outlook

Do not know about thunderbird.

My experience is the part


On 13 Jul 2015, at 2:50 pm, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

MailMate? That came close, last time I looked …

Nah, you’re right—this is one area where it sucks to be a Mac user, bigtime.

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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

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Hmm, wonder if it doesn't like the odd number of cores. Maybe try 
dropping it to two. I'm assuming you're running 64-bit Windows since 
you're trying to allocate 16GB RAM. Are you on the latest updates of 
vmware? Windows beats on your hard drive but with an SSD, that shouldn't 
be holding things up.


CB

On 7/13/15 12:15 AM, Juan Hernandez wrote:

3 cores and 16 gb ram.


On Jul 12, 2015, at 8:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

How much RAM and CPU have you allocated to your virtual machine?

CB

On 7/12/15 9:50 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote:

It is really laggy when using jaws, whinnies, or nvda.

I need to use visual studio for work a lot, and well it just lags really bad.  
use of the keyboard feels very sluggish.  I know it will never be as fast as a 
native environment, but I think by this time in the vm software game they 
should have better speed.

I wonder if using the vm with out a screen reader is after, if the screen 
reader is the one wo is lagging things down.

Best,

On Jul 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

There's not a command line, and no.  It's still not accessible.

What's wrong with VMWare Fusion, if you don't mind me asking?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: parallels 10 accessibility


Hi!
I tried it two years ago and at that time it wasn’t accessible.
I don’t know if there’s a command line interface for it like virtualbox but i 
don’t think so.
/A

12 juli 2015 kl. 02:22 skrev Juan Hernandez :

Hi All,

I currently run vm fusion to load windows on my mac, so I can run some 
development software.  Fusion can be very laggy, and I do not have a slow 
computer.  I have a 2014 iMac, w/ i7 quad core 3.5ghz cpu, 32gb ram, and 1tb 
ssd.

I have read that parallels is after than fusion.

Is the parallels interface accessible with voiceover on the mac?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bst,

Juan

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Re: Apple TV Connection Question

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Just like the old Mac Mini question, will the Apple TV operate without 
being connected to HDMI? I've never tried that with optical outputs only.


CB

On 7/14/15 9:28 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
OK, so it looks like if you want a soundbar, your best bet would be to 
go optical out of the Apple TV, to Opbical in on the soundbar.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 8:29 PM
Subject: Apple TV Connection Question


I am finally thinking about getting an Apple TV, but am curious as I 
know you have to connect it via HDMI, but am curious can I buy a Sound 
Bar home receiver that has an HDMI input and then use the Apple TV 
without a TV? Thanks, curious if you just need any receiver with a 
HDMI input.




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VM insert key on OSX tutorial

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Marco Zehe from Mozilla wrote up his solution to getting the caps lock 
key to act as both the VO keys on OSX and the Insert key when running 
VMWare with Windows and Jaws or NVDA. This seems to come up pretty often 
so hopefully folks can keep this link around and just paste it into the 
message thread whenever it comes up rather than re-writing instructions 
every time. Not sure I would bother with the VO remap part but at least 
you'd have one key for both sides.


https://www.marcozehe.de/2015/06/07/how-to-map-your-macs-capslock-key-to-a-nvda-or-jaws-key-in-a-windows-virtual-machine/

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Re: Apple TV Connection Question

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The AppleTV box has five connectors across the back. Power, HDMI with a 
micro-USB just below it, Optical Audio and Ethernet. The optical out is 
the little square kind you find on most digital receivers.


CB

On 7/15/15 2:04 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:

Hi Tim,

what is the setup you have going out of the optical? I was under the impression 
the Apple TV only had a power cord and cdmi out, so not sure what you guys are 
talking about optically? The sound bar I am looking at is the Wilton Sound Bar 
with Bluetooth sold on Amazon as it has a ton of input and outputs, and I think 
the only thing I would be using would be the volume so once I figure that out 
would not need sighted assistance to work it, the amazon ad mentions it works 
with gaming stuff but does not mention the Apple TV, here is the link if anyone 
wants to take a look at it. Thanks for all the feedback 
http://www.amazon.com/Wilton-SBHD210-Bluetooth-Soundbar-Surround/dp/B00XO50TSG

On Jul 15, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Tim Emmons  wrote:

This is the setup I have, and it’s beautiful. Also, if I want to listen to 
iTunes Radio which will soon become apple Music, I don’t have to turn the tv 
on, I can run it just through the Bar and it’s nice. Hope you can get it to 
work for you.

On Jul 14, 2015, at 8:28 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

OK, so it looks like if you want a soundbar, your best bet would be to go 
optical out of the Apple TV, to Opbical in on the soundbar.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 8:29 PM
Subject: Apple TV Connection Question


I am finally thinking about getting an Apple TV, but am curious as I know you 
have to connect it via HDMI, but am curious can I buy a Sound Bar home receiver 
that has an HDMI input and then use the Apple TV without a TV? Thanks, curious 
if you just need any receiver with a HDMI input.

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Re: siri's sense of humor, and ability to..?

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Even though I'm in the states I have my voice set to the male UK English 
just because I find it more intelligible through the little speakers.


Ask siri about the three laws or robotics or how much wood could a wood 
chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood :)


CB

On 7/16/15 7:12 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
You’re lucky because  there is at least one mail voice for siri.
This is for english of course.
Swedish  users has to stand the crappy alva voice.
/A

16 juli 2015 kl. 05:46 skrev Karen Lewellen :

Hi folks,
as to the first question, I understand she? had no idea she is a girl, has an 
amusing answer to  questions like... what's zero divided by zero?"
if noone has tried it, I will not spoil the fun.
I understand too that she will correct anyone  seeking physical information 
about Bruce Jenner.
The other half of my question has to do with nuance.
I recently visited an apple store to learn  if the ios voices could be nuanced 
the way mac voices can.  I was dismayed that while you can speed the voice up 
and slow it down, you cannot  improve the over all quality..but I did not try 
Siri  at all.
I was working with an ipad, not a phone.
so can she be improved?
I may need to check her out, I tend to prefer a guy's voice talking in my ear 
even on my computer lol.
Still  it might be the difference between ever using an ios device as is the 
case now, and considering an iphone for non phone tasks.
Thanks,
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Looking for Gary Robledo

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Sorry to spam the list but there is an issue with his account, I've 
emailed him twice with no response but he is still active in 
discussions. Gary, please contact me off list as Google has your email 
address listed as bouncing.


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Re: siri's sense of humor, and ability to..?

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I would modify this to say that recent model iOS devices probably have 
the CPU to do the job but there is a cost to battery life when CPU load 
goes up. I'm sure somebody at Apple made the call to say that this 
capability was not worth the impact to battery life. Without knowing 
what that impact was it's hard to say if they made a reasonable 
tradeoff. It might also be something that will get revisited as the 
oldest devices roll off the supported list.


CB

On 7/17/15 12:32 AM, David Chittenden wrote:

It has to do with the amount of processing required for human-sounding speech. 
This is quite processor intensive, and iOS devices, though powerful, are still 
pocket devices.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Jul 2015, at 12:24, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Caitlin not Jenner lol!
Seriously, this  is something I do not understand.
why can you not nuance ios voices the way you can mac ones?
The ability to adjust tone and pitch is fundamental to using speech.
It actually was a deal breaker for my getting an ios device.  That handsome 
Brit was close but to use him regularly in settings I wanted to refine him a 
bit...and was stunned that this was impossible save for speed.
I can only imagine how frustrating this must be for those new to understanding  
synthesized speech, especially if  others around you are telling you its fine 
but you do not think as much.
Any explanation for why apple does not build something  so simple into the ios 
platform?
Kare



On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

Karen,
You can have a male Siri if you like, it’s in the choices under Siri in 
settings. I have a nice Brit gentleman, for instance, instead of the snotty 
American version!  lol
hth,
Caitlyn(not Genner, btw! another lol)


On Jul 15, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi folks,
as to the first question, I understand she? had no idea she is a girl, has an 
amusing answer to  questions like... what's zero divided by zero?"
if noone has tried it, I will not spoil the fun.
I understand too that she will correct anyone  seeking physical information 
about Bruce Jenner.
The other half of my question has to do with nuance.
I recently visited an apple store to learn  if the ios voices could be nuanced 
the way mac voices can.  I was dismayed that while you can speed the voice up 
and slow it down, you cannot  improve the over all quality..but I did not try 
Siri  at all.
I was working with an ipad, not a phone.
so can she be improved?
I may need to check her out, I tend to prefer a guy's voice talking in my ear 
even on my computer lol.
Still  it might be the difference between ever using an ios device as is the 
case now, and considering an iphone for non phone tasks.
Thanks,
Karen

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Re: Questions about programs

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Note that there are a number of these shortcuts under the Go menu, which 
also lists command-shift-U to bring up the utilities folder. That folder 
is inside the apps folder and includes less commonly used apps such as 
disk utility for formatting and partitioning drives.


CB

On 7/17/15 3:58 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

VO-d takes you to the Dock which is simply a bar across the bottom of 
the screen with shortcuts to common, or favourite, applications.  Apps 
like TextEdit and many others are in the Applications folder.  So, as 
mentioned, get to your Desktop, or the Finder, then press cmd-shift-a 
which will open the Applications folder.  TextEdit will be there. 
 Numbers is a spreadsheet app, like Excel, Keynote is a multi-media 
presentation app like PowerPoint.  Notes is just that, a little 
note-taker app and Maps is just like the Maps app on an iOS device 
whereby it can give you directions and such to and between places.


HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 17, 2015, at 13:04, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net 
 > wrote:


Hi,
I just went to see what programs I have, hitting VO d, and I found 
that I don’t have Text Edit. I have pages, numbers, and others that I 
don’t know what they are for.

For instance, what is Notes?
Maps?
Face time?
Keynote?
Thanks,
Rena
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El Capitan's System Integrity Protection

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Interesting article talks about the new tighter security which locks 
down more areas that most apps shouldn't be messing with. This hopefully 
makes the old "Repair Permissions" routine less commonly needed and the 
system will automagically purge stuff that shouldn't be there from 
certain folders. This should make it more difficult for malware, or just 
buggy software, from getting a toehold in the OS.


http://www.macworld.com/article/2948140/os-x/private-i-el-capitans-system-integrity-protection-will-shift-utilities-functions.html

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Re: web-based text editors and VoiceOver

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Interesting. I'm helping some developers of a webmail system and they 
are going to give CKEditor a try because it claims to be very 
accessible. I wonder if the site you are having trouble with is using 
the latest version?


CB

On 7/10/15 8:16 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:

This sound like a comms issue between Voice-over, the API and the browser. I 
assume you are using safari. The question is safari sending the information to 
Voice-over from this open source editor?

If not, then that is the issue. I mention this because you are entering 
information into the editor then the editor should pass this to Safari for 
rendering and Safari should pass it to voice-Over.

At least that is how I see the flow should go.

Sean

On 11 Jul 2015, at 8:58 am, Phil Halton  wrote:

There is an open source web text editor app called “CKEditor” that is used by a 
lot of websites for rich format text input. When focused in CKEditor, VoiceOver 
gives no spoken feedback when typing. The editor does work with the standard 
UNIX commands, and VoiceOver will speak text contents as you arrow around in 
the text, but it will not speak as you type.
I can’t find any way to get typing feedback with this web editor and wonder if 
anyone has had experience with this sort of problem?
I can’t direct you to a website that uses CKEditor because the site I use is a 
private area.
There is a website for the open source CKEditor, www.CKEditor.com, but I 
haven’t gone through it yet looking for clues as to how to get VoiceOver to 
speak typing.

Any help? Any suggestions?

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Re: Large Numbers file and VoiceOver

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That's pretty big and if you run out of real RAM OSX will try to fake it 
by swapping pages of memory out to disk. Once that happens your machine 
will turn to sludge. On OSX 10.9 or later you can go to terminal and type


sysctl -a vm | grep vm.mem

which will give you the "memory pressure". I'm running 8GB RAM with the 
usual mail, chat, web apps open so when I do that I get 0 pressure. You 
can also check the minimum target for free pages of memory:


sysctl -a vm | grep free_target

and how many free pages you have

sysctl -a vm | grep free_count

My target was 4000 and actual was 5533 so I'm good. Once the actual 
drops below the target OSX will start asking apps to free up any memory 
they can and beyond a certain threshold will start swapping to disk. 
There's some details here:


http://newosxbook.com/articles/MemoryPressure.html

CB

On 7/21/15 12:32 PM, Antonio Guimaraes wrote:

Hi all,

I am working with a fairly large numbers file containing 6300 columns.

  Voiceover lags behind by about two seconds each time I switch from cell to 
cell.

  Is this normal, can it be resolved in someway?

I only have 4 GB of RAM.

As ever,

Antonio



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Re: Mac and iPhone question

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You might want to play with the "Automatically include photos from" 
setting for your device on iTunes. I have mine set to "Last Year" but 
you might try Last 6 Month or something less to get everything to fit. 
Then, when you sync, it will remove any photos or videos from your phone 
that are past that expiration date but they will all still live in your 
Photos app.


CB

On 7/23/15 12:00 PM, Jose Lomeli wrote:

Hello; Listers, I have a question! Ok here it goes. Earlier today I got a 
message on my iPhone telling me that I was running out of storage space. this 
is regarding photos on my iPhone. Is there a way for me to store all of my 
photos on my Mac then deleting them on my iPhone with out affecting all of my 
other devices? I hope I am making sense here.
Jose Lomeli
Sent From My MacBook Pro!



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Re: Pros and cons of a Mac mini

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While an electrical engineer might find some difference, for most people 
the audio is the same on all Mac models.


Disappointing about the lack of a quad core mini. Didn't realize Apple 
slipped that in. They are on newer CPUs now which are, per CPU, faster 
but if you're doing something CPU intensive like encoding audio or the 
like the new machines will be slower than the older quad core boxes. 
Wonder what the story behind the backsliding is? Maybe the mini machines 
are based on the same design as the MacBook Air laptops motherboards 
which are only dual core. I'm sure they do that for battery life but for 
a mini desktop that's not really a concern. They also went to 
soldered-on RAM so you can't upgrade after purchase (also like the Air).


CB

On 7/27/15 2:29 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
You’re probably right about that.
BUt i am going to use my new mac when i got one for music production just for 
fun though but if i can afford a mac mini server that would be great.
Are there any differences in audio hardware on the server compared to the mac 
mini?
A mac pro is sadly out of budget unless some extreemly rich person would 
sponsor me *lol*.
/A

27 juli 2015 kl. 11:11 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu :

If you want raw performance, the 2012 quad-core twin-SSD server is still a 
better bet.  For reasons best known to Apple, current Mac Minis simply don’t 
have a quad-core option.  I think that’s a crying shame, personally, because it 
makes the newer Mac Mini a great deal less suitable as a headless server.  My 
cynical mind says this is because Apple just wants to sell more iMac or, for a 
server, more Mac Pro.  Still, for your typical home uses, that’s not really a 
problem.

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Re: Unsuccessful attempt, setting up Mail Account

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Can you manually set it up by putting in the incoming and outgoing 
gateways and such?


CB

On 7/27/15 4:22 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote:

Guys,

This is honestly not a terribly big deal, as I practically haven’t 
used this account in literally probably over a year, but I know it’s 
still active, as I can sign in no problem from the webmail interface 
with Safari.


Anyway, I have a really really really! old AOL account which I’m 
trying to set up in Mail on my Mac running Yosemite 10.10.4.


I am able to select AOL as the account type, and then put in my screen 
n...@aol.com  and the password.  The issue is, as 
soon as I hit the setup button with VO+Space, it dims itself for a few 
seconds, then becomes available once again, but it won’t step me 
through to the next step of the account setup process.


I checked to see if perhaps it added the account anyway in the 
accounts list table, but it didn’t.


So, I guess ultimately, two questions…

Firstly and foremost, has Apple broken the ability to set up an AOL 
e-mail account through the auto-setup procedure in Mail with Yosemite? 
 If not, then my next, and final question would be, has anyone here on 
the list gotten it recently within Yosemite 10.10.4 to work correctly? 
 I understand that if you already had your account setup say from 
Mountain Lion, or Mavericks, or whatever, then it probably still 
works, as the account was setup previously before upgrading, but I’m 
saying more, has anyone specifically natively within Yosemite itself 
setup an AOL account which wasn’t previously configured?


Again, I’ve marked this e-mail as low priority, as truefully, I’m 
really not terribly concerned.  Yeah, it would be cool to get this 
account working, but if I can’t, it’s not the end of the world.  I’ve 
not used it in over nearly a year or so, so it’s not like I’m really 
missing much by not having access to it.  This does have me a little 
bit intriegued though.


Chris.
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Re: Unsuccessful attempt, setting up Mail Account

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Everything you need to know should be here:

https://help.aol.com/articles/how-do-i-use-other-email-applications-to-send-and-receive-my-aol-mail

CB

On 7/28/15 10:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Probably, if I knew 'em.  LOL!
Chris.

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Can you manually set it up by putting in the incoming and outgoing
gateways and such?

CB

On 7/27/15 4:22 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote:

Guys,

This is honestly not a terribly big deal, as I practically
haven’t used this account in literally probably over a year, but
I know it’s still active, as I can sign in no problem from the
webmail interface with Safari.

Anyway, I have a really really really! old AOL account which I’m
trying to set up in Mail on my Mac running Yosemite 10.10.4.

I am able to select AOL as the account type, and then put in my
screen n...@aol.com <mailto:n...@aol.com> and the password.  The
issue is, as soon as I hit the setup button with VO+Space, it
dims itself for a few seconds, then becomes available once again,
but it won’t step me through to the next step of the account
setup process.

I checked to see if perhaps it added the account anyway in the
accounts list table, but it didn’t.

So, I guess ultimately, two questions…

Firstly and foremost, has Apple broken the ability to set up an
AOL e-mail account through the auto-setup procedure in Mail with
Yosemite?  If not, then my next, and final question would be, has
anyone here on the list gotten it recently within Yosemite
10.10.4 to work correctly?  I understand that if you already had
your account setup say from Mountain Lion, or Mavericks, or
whatever, then it probably still works, as the account was setup
previously before upgrading, but I’m saying more, has anyone
specifically natively within Yosemite itself setup an AOL account
which wasn’t previously configured?

Again, I’ve marked this e-mail as low priority, as truefully, I’m
really not terribly concerned.  Yeah, it would be cool to get
this account working, but if I can’t, it’s not the end of the
world.  I’ve not used it in over nearly a year or so, so it’s not
like I’m really missing much by not having access to it.  This
does have me a little bit intriegued though.

Chris.
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Re: Express or extreme

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From Apple's site they describe the headphone jack as analog/optical so 
that means you'll need a mini TOSlink to regular TOSlink to connect it 
to your receiver.


https://www.apple.com/airport-express/specs/

CB

On 7/24/15 9:52 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:


Thank you, that is what I thought, one other question do you know if 
the express has an optical connection? That is a tos link connection?


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Hi,

You want the airport express.

you can attach it to your receiver with a standard rca type jack.

The airport extreme is a router.

We used the airport express very successfully with our old Denon and 
and our old Sony before getting our current new Denon receiver.


hth,

Caitlyn

On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Jesus Garcia mailto:jesusga...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello list members, two questions. First I wish to send music from
my iPhone or Mac book pro to my home sound system. My home
receiver is a 2003 model, I do not wish to replace at the moment
since it is a high end flag ship model. However it has no HDMI or
later than 2003 connections. So, the question is should I purchase
the airport express or extreme. From reading a few articles it
appears to me that the extreme does not support airplay? I would
prefer using airplay.

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Re: Unsuccessful attempt, setting up Mail Account

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I think thunderbird is built on some shared bits with Firefox so it's 
not really accessible but hopefully someday they will bother. When I 
tried it I could actually read the content of a message but the inbox 
table was empty/unreadable along with a bunch of other unreadable parts 
of the UI.


CB

On 7/28/15 11:17 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:

Hi,

I stand to be corrected  but don't think Thunderbird for OS X is 
accessible.


Thank you,

Sadam Ahmed

On 7/29/2015 1:12 AM, Sunshine wrote:
Interesting is thunderbird available for the mac? if so where can a 
person find it?


On 7/28/2015 9:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, thanks.
Chris.

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*Subject:* Re: Unsuccessful attempt, setting up Mail Account

Everything you need to know should be here:


https://help.aol.com/articles/how-do-i-use-other-email-applications-to-send-and-receive-my-aol-mail

CB

On 7/28/15 10:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Probably, if I knew 'em. LOL!
Chris.

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*Subject:* Re: Unsuccessful attempt, setting up Mail Account

Can you manually set it up by putting in the incoming and
outgoing gateways and such?

CB

On 7/27/15 4:22 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote:

Guys,

This is honestly not a terribly big deal, as I practically
haven’t used this account in literally probably over a
year, but I know it’s still active, as I can sign in no
problem from the webmail interface with Safari.

Anyway, I have a really really really! old AOL account
which I’m trying to set up in Mail on my Mac running
Yosemite 10.10.4.

I am able to select AOL as the account type, and then put
in my screen n...@aol.com <mailto:n...@aol.com> and the
password.  The issue is, as soon as I hit the setup button
with VO+Space, it dims itself for a few seconds, then
becomes available once again, but it won’t step me through
to the next step of the account setup process.

I checked to see if perhaps it added the account anyway in
the accounts list table, but it didn’t.

So, I guess ultimately, two questions…

Firstly and foremost, has Apple broken the ability to set
up an AOL e-mail account through the auto-setup procedure
in Mail with Yosemite?  If not, then my next, and final
question would be, has anyone here on the list gotten it
recently within Yosemite 10.10.4 to work correctly?  I
understand that if you already had your account setup say
from Mountain Lion, or Mavericks, or whatever, then it
probably still works, as the account was setup previously
before upgrading, but I’m saying more, has anyone
specifically natively within Yosemite itself setup an AOL
account which wasn’t previously configured?

Again, I’ve marked this e-mail as low priority, as
truefully, I’m really not terribly concerned.  Yeah, it
would be cool to get this account working, but if I can’t,
it’s not the end of the world.  I’ve not used it in over
nearly a year or so, so it’s not like I’m really missing
much by not having access to it.  This does have me a
little bit intriegued though.

Chris.
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Re: how to stop pitures to show up.

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I didn't notice a reply to this one. Not sure how you do it on the beta 
but for the current version of OSX the secret seems to be to use the 
Image Capture app in your Mac's Applications folder with your phone 
plugged in. In the app you should find a table which has your iphone 
selected. VO-down once and you'll land on a checkbox called Show Device 
Settings. If you VO-space on this it will seem like nothing happened but 
it secretly added a new section of controls. VO-up and it lands on some 
text that says "Connecting this iPhone opens" and if you VO-right there 
is a popup where you can select what it does such as Preview, iPhoto 
and, at the very top of the list, No Application. Pick that and it 
should stop launching any photo apps when you plug in your phone.


CB

On 7/21/15 11:55 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Evry time since testing out the public beta of el capitan i have a problem with 
the pictures app.
It keeps on starting evrytime i plug my idevices in.
Itunes doesn’t start but picture does.
I want it to be the oposit way so that itunes start and pictures doesn’t.
But in itunes i have checked all  settings regarding iphone and they are set 
right.
In pictures i can’t open settings for some odd reason.
Any help is highly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Re: Unsuccessful attempt, setting up Mail Account

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

38.1.0 which I think is the latest.

CB

On 7/28/15 2:36 PM, Sunshine wrote:

what version did you try for the mac?


On 7/28/2015 10:33 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:
I think thunderbird is built on some shared bits with Firefox so it's 
not really accessible but hopefully someday they will bother. When I 
tried it I could actually read the content of a message but the inbox 
table was empty/unreadable along with a bunch of other unreadable 
parts of the UI.


CB

On 7/28/15 11:17 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:

Hi,

I stand to be corrected  but don't think Thunderbird for OS X is 
accessible.


Thank you,

Sadam Ahmed

On 7/29/2015 1:12 AM, Sunshine wrote:
Interesting is thunderbird available for the mac? if so where can a 
person find it?


On 7/28/2015 9:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, thanks.
Chris.

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*Subject:* Re: Unsuccessful attempt, setting up Mail Account

Everything you need to know should be here:


https://help.aol.com/articles/how-do-i-use-other-email-applications-to-send-and-receive-my-aol-mail

CB

On 7/28/15 10:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Probably, if I knew 'em.  LOL!
Chris.

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*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:58 AM
*Subject:* Re: Unsuccessful attempt, setting up Mail Account

Can you manually set it up by putting in the incoming and
outgoing gateways and such?

CB

On 7/27/15 4:22 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote:

Guys,

This is honestly not a terribly big deal, as I
practically haven’t used this account in literally
probably over a year, but I know it’s still active, as I
can sign in no problem from the webmail interface with
Safari.

Anyway, I have a really really really! old AOL account
which I’m trying to set up in Mail on my Mac running
Yosemite 10.10.4.

I am able to select AOL as the account type, and then
put in my screen n...@aol.com and the password.  The
issue is, as soon as I hit the setup button with
VO+Space, it dims itself for a few seconds, then becomes
available once again, but it won’t step me through to
the next step of the account setup process.

I checked to see if perhaps it added the account anyway
in the accounts list table, but it didn’t.

So, I guess ultimately, two questions…

Firstly and foremost, has Apple broken the ability to
set up an AOL e-mail account through the auto-setup
procedure in Mail with Yosemite?  If not, then my next,
and final question would be, has anyone here on the list
gotten it recently within Yosemite 10.10.4 to work
correctly?  I understand that if you already had your
account setup say from Mountain Lion, or Mavericks, or
whatever, then it probably still works, as the account
was setup previously before upgrading, but I’m saying
more, has anyone specifically natively within Yosemite
itself setup an AOL account which wasn’t previously
configured?

Again, I’ve marked this e-mail as low priority, as
truefully, I’m really not terribly concerned.  Yeah, it
would be cool to get this account working, but if I
can’t, it’s not the end of the world.  I’ve not used it
in over nearly a year or so, so it’s not like I’m really
missing much by not having access to it.  This does have
me a little bit intriegued though.

Chris.
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Re: login on a remote disc

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Network drives should show up just link physical local drives. You can 
select them and then eject them with command-E. After that you can use 
command-K to connect to another (or the same) server again with the same 
(or different) credentials. You can't connect to the same server 
multiple times with different credentials concurrently.


CB

On 7/29/15 3:44 PM, William Windels wrote:

Hello all,
I am curious if the procedure to login on a network-drive  is accessible.
In my situation, I am logged in on a network-drive but I should be able to 
disconnect the remote disk and login with another user.
In the finder, I can see a disconnect button next to the name of the user that 
is used for login in to the disc.
But this button can’t be activated with voiceover (vo+space)
Any hints to login with another user on a remote disc are very welcome.

Kind regards,
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Re: login on a remote disc

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Good point. I can't recall if the default is to show network drives on 
the desktop or if I changed that preference sometime in the past.


CB

On 7/29/15 5:36 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Not sure why the Disconnect button is not working for you as I’ve used it 
myself in the past.  further to what Chris already mentioned, if you go to the 
Finder, press cmd-comma to bring up the Finder Prefs, then in the General pane, 
make sure that the checkbox is checked for Show Connected Servers, any network 
drives will show up as an icon on your Desktop whereby the cmd-e for Eject 
works to logout and cmd-k can be used easily for logging into these network 
connections.

Later…


On Jul 29, 2015, at 3:02 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Network drives should show up just link physical local drives. You can select 
them and then eject them with command-E. After that you can use command-K to 
connect to another (or the same) server again with the same (or different) 
credentials. You can't connect to the same server multiple times with different 
credentials concurrently.

CB

On 7/29/15 3:44 PM, William Windels wrote:

Hello all,
I am curious if the procedure to login on a network-drive  is accessible.
In my situation, I am logged in on a network-drive but I should be able to 
disconnect the remote disk and login with another user.
In the finder, I can see a disconnect button next to the name of the user that 
is used for login in to the disc.
But this button can’t be activated with voiceover (vo+space)
Any hints to login with another user on a remote disc are very welcome.

Kind regards,
William Windels


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Re: login on a remote disc

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Hmm. I do network time machine backups to another Mac which shares out a 
disk image on its external drive so I can control the amount of space 
time machine sucks up. So my time machine backup volume just pops up on 
my desktop while running and then goes away. The first time I back up to 
this remote volume time machine prompt me for the username and password, 
which is just the same credentials I use via command-K to mount the 
volume. Once mounted I can meander through the directory tree of time 
machine backups.


CB

On 7/30/15 2:01 PM, William Windels wrote:

Hello all,
I try to explain further:
I new already that I could see connected servers in the finder e.g. with 
command+shift+k.
And that I can delete them like a usb-disc with command+e.

But the situation here is something else/more complicated:
I want to mount my remote time-machine that is stored on a nas-partition.
For all the data-partitions on the nas, I login wit user william and a pasword.
But, a remote time-machine needs a other login and pasword so that the 
Time-Machine program on the mac can use this partition for automatic backups.
With command+k I could type a adres but I don’t know how to specify a username 
and paswoord so that I can login correctly for time-machine.

But after all, Perhaps I don’t need it anymore since mounting a remote 
time-machine-backup  as a folder in the finder seems not possible.  I mean: the 
folder-structure is visible in the finder while time-machine is making a 
backup. If Time-Machine finish backing up, the folder to mount in the finder 
isn’t longer valid.

The only alternative to use time-machine with a remote disc is to use the 
time-machine program. This is mostly accessible I think but not so comfortable.

If there are any hints to mount a remote time-machine as a local folder 
structure with all the backups, it would be nice to hear of you.

Many thanx for all the given reactions already.
William Windels

Op 30-jul.-2015, om 16:57 heeft 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 het volgende geschreven:

Good point. I can't recall if the default is to show network drives on the 
desktop or if I changed that preference sometime in the past.

CB

On 7/29/15 5:36 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Not sure why the Disconnect button is not working for you as I’ve used it 
myself in the past.  further to what Chris already mentioned, if you go to the 
Finder, press cmd-comma to bring up the Finder Prefs, then in the General pane, 
make sure that the checkbox is checked for Show Connected Servers, any network 
drives will show up as an icon on your Desktop whereby the cmd-e for Eject 
works to logout and cmd-k can be used easily for logging into these network 
connections.

Later…


On Jul 29, 2015, at 3:02 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Network drives should show up just link physical local drives. You can select 
them and then eject them with command-E. After that you can use command-K to 
connect to another (or the same) server again with the same (or different) 
credentials. You can't connect to the same server multiple times with different 
credentials concurrently.

CB

On 7/29/15 3:44 PM, William Windels wrote:

Hello all,
I am curious if the procedure to login on a network-drive  is accessible.
In my situation, I am logged in on a network-drive but I should be able to 
disconnect the remote disk and login with another user.
In the finder, I can see a disconnect button next to the name of the user that 
is used for login in to the disc.
But this button can’t be activated with voiceover (vo+space)
Any hints to login with another user on a remote disc are very welcome.

Kind regards,
William Windels


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Re: login on a remote disc

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Normally Time Machine will mount the drive, do the backup and then 
dismount the drive. There should be nothing preventing you from also 
mounting the same drive yourself and poking around in it. As far as URL 
formatting, if you really want to you can embed the password after the 
username separated by a colon. So to mount my drive I would do something 
like


afp://cblouch:password@192.168.14.15

where you would replace that made up IP with the IP or DNS name of your 
machine.


CB

On 7/30/15 4:43 PM, William Windels wrote:

hoi Chris and others,
thx for the response.
With command+k,
I have just discovered that username@ip-adres brings also up the login as 
dialoge.
But, the pasword, I can’t give as a parameter.
But next to that, and if I understand well of you, the backups are not ready to 
browse in the finder if no backup is made on that moment.

Is this right?

Kind regards,
William Windels

Op 30-jul.-2015, om 20:36 heeft 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 het volgende geschreven:

Hmm. I do network time machine backups to another Mac which shares out a disk 
image on its external drive so I can control the amount of space time machine 
sucks up. So my time machine backup volume just pops up on my desktop while 
running and then goes away. The first time I back up to this remote volume time 
machine prompt me for the username and password, which is just the same 
credentials I use via command-K to mount the volume. Once mounted I can meander 
through the directory tree of time machine backups.

CB

On 7/30/15 2:01 PM, William Windels wrote:

Hello all,
I try to explain further:
I new already that I could see connected servers in the finder e.g. with 
command+shift+k.
And that I can delete them like a usb-disc with command+e.

But the situation here is something else/more complicated:
I want to mount my remote time-machine that is stored on a nas-partition.
For all the data-partitions on the nas, I login wit user william and a pasword.
But, a remote time-machine needs a other login and pasword so that the 
Time-Machine program on the mac can use this partition for automatic backups.
With command+k I could type a adres but I don’t know how to specify a username 
and paswoord so that I can login correctly for time-machine.

But after all, Perhaps I don’t need it anymore since mounting a remote 
time-machine-backup  as a folder in the finder seems not possible.  I mean: the 
folder-structure is visible in the finder while time-machine is making a 
backup. If Time-Machine finish backing up, the folder to mount in the finder 
isn’t longer valid.

The only alternative to use time-machine with a remote disc is to use the 
time-machine program. This is mostly accessible I think but not so comfortable.

If there are any hints to mount a remote time-machine as a local folder 
structure with all the backups, it would be nice to hear of you.

Many thanx for all the given reactions already.
William Windels

Op 30-jul.-2015, om 16:57 heeft 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 het volgende geschreven:

Good point. I can't recall if the default is to show network drives on the 
desktop or if I changed that preference sometime in the past.

CB

On 7/29/15 5:36 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Not sure why the Disconnect button is not working for you as I’ve used it 
myself in the past.  further to what Chris already mentioned, if you go to the 
Finder, press cmd-comma to bring up the Finder Prefs, then in the General pane, 
make sure that the checkbox is checked for Show Connected Servers, any network 
drives will show up as an icon on your Desktop whereby the cmd-e for Eject 
works to logout and cmd-k can be used easily for logging into these network 
connections.

Later…


On Jul 29, 2015, at 3:02 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Network drives should show up just link physical local drives. You can select 
them and then eject them with command-E. After that you can use command-K to 
connect to another (or the same) server again with the same (or different) 
credentials. You can't connect to the same server multiple times with different 
credentials concurrently.

CB

On 7/29/15 3:44 PM, William Windels wrote:

Hello all,
I am curious if the procedure to login on a network-drive  is accessible.
In my situation, I am logged in on a network-drive but I should be able to 
disconnect the remote disk and login with another user.
In the finder, I can see a disconnect button next to the name of the user that 
is used for login in to the disc.
But this button can’t be activated with voiceover (vo+space)
Any hints to login with another user on a remote disc are very welcome.

Kind regards,
William Windels


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Re: how to get maps from humanware for trekker breeze downloaded

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Do you know the URL of the download? I don't have any experience with 
the device but you should be able to FTP down files from anywhere.


CB

On 7/30/15 5:52 PM, Scott Berry wrote:

Hello there,

I was wondering can anyone tell me how to use Safari to get files from an ftp 
site to download.  I have the maps for the Trekker Breeze which I need to get.  
I tried Command plus Option Plus M and looking for a download option off the 
submenu and I also tried dragging and dropping yhr mspd sonf yhsy fit not eotk 
riyhrt.  Any suggestions would be helpful.




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Re: reclaiming space on hard drive

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If you open the trash, is there still anything in it?

CB

On 7/31/15 10:43 AM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:

Hi everyone,
I’ve just noticed the usage on my Mac HD is getting more full than I like.
I’ve just deleted several gigs of data, and I am not seeing the space freed up 
like I expected. Only a couple hundred megs freed up. I have emptied the trash, 
and am not sure what I need to do to see this newly emptied space.
I’ve even restarted the Mac to see if something was hanging.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you.



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Re: reclaiming space on hard drive

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Odd. Then your free space should reflect those files being gone. One 
handy way to figure out where you space went is to open your hard drive, 
make sure you are in list view (command+2) and then go to View Options 
(command-J). That pops up a window with extra options checkboxes. At the 
bottom of that list of checkboxes is one that says Calculate all sizes. 
Check that one and then command ~ to jump back to your list view of the 
hard drive and there will be a Size column. Usually for folders the size 
is just "--" but the Mac will start totaling up all the files and 
replace those "--" with actual numbers. You can then start to focus on 
the folders with the most space used and start to drill down to figure 
out what's using the most space. The Calculate all sizes beats on your 
hard drive making (ad updating) all those totals so when you're done 
you'll want to turn that back off. My Applications folder is 71GB while 
my OSX 10.10.4 system is only 11GB. I would expect the bulk of the 
deletable stuff to be either apps you no longer need or stuff under 
Users/youraccountnamefolder.


CB

On 7/31/15 12:06 PM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:

No it is empty.


On Jul 31, 2015, at 10:00 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

If you open the trash, is there still anything in it?

CB

On 7/31/15 10:43 AM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:

Hi everyone,
I’ve just noticed the usage on my Mac HD is getting more full than I like.
I’ve just deleted several gigs of data, and I am not seeing the space freed up 
like I expected. Only a couple hundred megs freed up. I have emptied the trash, 
and am not sure what I need to do to see this newly emptied space.
I’ve even restarted the Mac to see if something was hanging.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you.


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Re: reclaiming space on hard drive

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That's not bad at all. There are some hidden things that can take up 
space. How are you finding the free space count? There are a few hidden 
things that can still throw off the overall math. The recovery partition 
and such take about 1GB. I have a hidden folder called MobileBackups 
which is about 1GB. If you're using MacPorts or the like your /opt and 
/private folders can be a dozen or so GB.


CB

On 7/31/15 2:39 PM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:

Ok, so I’ve downloaded and ran “Disk Doctor” as suggested by a lister.
I’ve also enabled “calculate all sizes” and my applications folder is 17.28gb, 
Libraries is 5.17gb, system folder is 9.81gb, and my users folder is 17.43gb. 
Total space used should be down around 50gb, any ideas guys/gals?
I’m still showing 81gb used.
Any ideas?


  

On Jul 31, 2015, at 10:25 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Odd. Then your free space should reflect those files being gone. One handy way to figure out where 
you space went is to open your hard drive, make sure you are in list view (command+2) and then go 
to View Options (command-J). That pops up a window with extra options checkboxes. At the bottom of 
that list of checkboxes is one that says Calculate all sizes. Check that one and then command ~ to 
jump back to your list view of the hard drive and there will be a Size column. Usually for folders 
the size is just "--" but the Mac will start totaling up all the files and replace those 
"--" with actual numbers. You can then start to focus on the folders with the most space 
used and start to drill down to figure out what's using the most space. The Calculate all sizes 
beats on your hard drive making (ad updating) all those totals so when you're done you'll want to 
turn that back off. My Applications folder is 71GB while my OSX 10.10.4 system is only 11GB. I 
would expect the bulk of the deletable stuff to be either apps you no longer need or stuff under 
Users/youraccountnamefolder.

CB

On 7/31/15 12:06 PM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:

No it is empty.


On Jul 31, 2015, at 10:00 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

If you open the trash, is there still anything in it?

CB

On 7/31/15 10:43 AM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:

Hi everyone,
I’ve just noticed the usage on my Mac HD is getting more full than I like.
I’ve just deleted several gigs of data, and I am not seeing the space freed up 
like I expected. Only a couple hundred megs freed up. I have emptied the trash, 
and am not sure what I need to do to see this newly emptied space.
I’ve even restarted the Mac to see if something was hanging.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you.


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Re: inaccessible power point on mac

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I have run into PowerPoints which were nothing more than slideshows of 
giant bitmap images of text. Could be you've run into one of those. Are 
you sure there is actually text and not just a big picture of text on 
the slides?


CB

On 8/4/15 4:24 PM, Nancy Badger wrote:

Hello,
I am trying to read a power point file that is inaccessible. It is obviously 
done with graphics or PDF because preview won’t work. I also tried keynote and 
it did not recognize the text. I tried to open it through abbyy fine reader and 
that did not work either. Any suggestions other than asking for sighted 
assistance?
Thanks
Nancy



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Re: one more printer wuersltion

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Is that the same as an HP LaserJet 2100 series? If so they have 
cartridges on Amazon for about $25. Here is one:


http://www.amazon.com/HP-LaserJet-2100-Series-C4096A-COM/dp/B001DQDI18

CB

On 8/10/15 8:51 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote:

Hi all!
One more printer question.  I Have this laser printer HP2100 pcl6 and have had 
it for years.  I've been looking online(maybe in the wrong place) to try and 
find a toner cartridge for it.  Anybody have specific sites they buy cartridges 
from here in the u.s.?
Thanks,
Jim



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Re: Where are the documents that we save?

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Another common location is the Documents folder which you can find in 
the dock right before the trash.


CB

On 8/13/15 9:48 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
When you save a document, you have the opportunity to specify where on 
the Mac it should be saved i.e., in what folder. If you don't remember 
what folder it was set to you


Can open up TextEdit, type something in and then save that document. 
Now look to see what folder the this text will be saved in and that is 
where your other document was most likely saved in as well. TextEdit 
remembers the folder settings until you change them. So whatever the 
current folder setting is, that's where all the prior documents were 
sent to. Hope that makes sense Good luck Sent from my IPhone



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Hello,
I wrote a little document using Text Editor, and saved it, but I 
don’t know where it is now. I check the desktop, but I found nothing; 
It’s empty.

Rena
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Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
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Why you shouldn't freak out about scary sounding exploits

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Just read this article and found it interesting. The author covers the 
recent OSX exploits and why folks shouldn't get all worked up about them.


http://www.macworld.com/article/2956628/security/why-you-shouldnt-freak-out-about-this-weeks-scary-sounding-mac-exploits.html

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Re: Why you shouldn't freak out about scary sounding exploits

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With the complexity of OSX and iOS I think if somebody figures out the 
right combination of tweaks to bypass security they should tell Apple 
right away and hold off a bit before telling the world. At least give 
them a chance to fix it before giving a free hand up to the bad guys. Of 
course that lead time needs to be kinda short as the vulnerability needs 
to be fixed before some bad folks find it and/or continue to use it. 
With Apple's automatic updates it can also be a while before a 
reasonable chunk of the population has installed the patch. So I'd guess 
90 days would be pretty reasonable. If a patch hasn't been released by 
then then it's time to put public pressure on Apple.


That said, the oasis of pulchritude hasn't entirely dried up. Yes, there 
are issues and the popularity of the platform has attracted unwanted 
attention from certain quarters but at least there seems to be a 
reasonably good attempt to put locks on all the doors. They just 
sometimes forget and leave a window open.


CB

On 8/13/15 1:21 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

I don’t agree with the author.  Of course, this is MacWorld—some amount of 
Apple butt-kissing is to be expected—but I find his attitude very worrying.

First, “Responsible disclosure” vs “Full disclosure” is a choice of 
researchers, and privileged authors of the press shouldn’t be using their 
personal ethical judgements about it to suppress public information about flaws 
simply on that basis.  That alone is reason enough to simply distrust any 
further writings of the author.  I am personally of the opinion that we are 
well past the usefulness of “Responsible disclosure” as a strategy; giving 
companies rope, but not quite enough to hang themselves with, isn’t moving 
security forward any faster.

Second, and more important, a privilege escalation vulnerability isn’t a 
problem for advanced users, who already know what Glen is suggesting, i.e. 
don’t run dodgy software.  It is precisely those people who have been trained, 
per the standard advice, not to type in their passwords when they are 
suspicious who will be most hit by the root bypass.  Obviously, better advice 
would be “Just don’t trust anyone”, but that’s not how the world works, sadly.  
I think it’s time for us to acknowledge that the Mac, once a peaceful 
neighbourhood with only the occasional bit of easily-preventable rogue badness 
that you could get rid of by just clicking “No” or “Cancel” or whatever, is now 
increasingly occupied by bad software that is well-advertised, easily installed 
and hard to recognise by a lot of inexperienced people, and anybody giving a 
Mac to somebody to keep them (the recipient) quiet and out of their (the 
donor’s) hair now needs to hold Apple’s once glorious patch turnaround times to 
account.  This is *especially* true if the donor has delivered the Mac with a 
limited user account and all necessary software already installed or only 
accessible from the Mac App Store, because as soon as Flash becomes the vector, 
we’re all finished.

Microsoft have learned their security lessons the hard and painful way, and now 
it’s Apple’s turn.  Please don’t give apologists fodder for their absurd 
denials.



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Re: Why you shouldn't freak out about scary sounding exploits

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I think he meant claims. As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, finding 
the exploits is non-trivial work usually done by experts. I doubt the 
bug bounty paid by some tech companies really makes up for the hours 
spent tracking this stuff down, but it's nice like a chocolate chip 
cookie. With millions of people beating on OSX, especially now with the 
"public" betas, I'm sure Apple is hoping that more monkies will be 
generating Shakespeare and want to report where things fell apart. A bug 
bounty would certainly increase the incentive to report any issues folks 
have stumbled upon.


CB

On 8/13/15 3:31 PM, Shaf wrote:

No clue what 'clqames' means.

Either way, your argument is flawed. That's like saying everybody who
wants a job shouldn't work for the money otherwise the job market would
be overloaded and employees wouldn't be filtered by quality.


On 8/13/2015 8:25 PM, george b wrote:

No I do not think so then all the people who need some money would be reporting 
these things just to get funds and overload their system andthen they would 
never be able to check the validity  of all the clqames

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Subject: Re: Why you shouldn't freak out about scary sounding exploits

That's good for you. A wealthy company such as Apple should pay those
who find security holes and report to them.

On 8/13/2015 7:36 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:

Hello: A lot of companies do have bounties like this. For example,
the company I worked for works on Drupal. There was a bounty
offered through the association. I report stuff like this I find
when it is a problem, not because I want to get paid but because
that's the only way to fix things. I do it because it's the right
thing to do and it helps other people. Any security holes that can
be fixed, regardless of whether or not I get paid helps me (as I'm
obviously using the product) and it helps others as well.

Thanks, On 8/13/2015 2:27 PM, Shaf wrote:

Why should I tell Apple of exploits if they don't pay me?? They
should introduce a bug bounty program. Otherwise I have no
interest in keeping their bugs confidential.



On 8/13/2015 7:10 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

With the complexity of OSX and iOS I think if somebody figures
out the right combination of tweaks to bypass security they
should tell Apple right away and hold off a bit before telling
the world. At least give them a chance to fix it before giving
a free hand up to the bad guys. Of course that lead time needs
to be kinda short as the vulnerability needs to be fixed before
some bad folks find it and/or continue to use it. With Apple's
automatic updates it can also be a while before a reasonable
chunk of the population has installed the patch. So I'd guess
90 days would be pretty reasonable. If a patch hasn't been
released by then then it's time to put public pressure on
Apple.

That said, the oasis of pulchritude hasn't entirely dried up.
Yes, there are issues and the popularity of the platform has
attracted unwanted attention from certain quarters but at
least there seems to be a reasonably good attempt to put locks
on all the doors. They just sometimes forget and leave a window
open.

CB

On 8/13/15 1:21 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

I don’t agree with the author.  Of course, this is
MacWorld—some amount of Apple butt-kissing is to be
expected—but I find his attitude very worrying.

First, “Responsible disclosure” vs “Full disclosure” is a
choice of researchers, and privileged authors of the press
shouldn’t be using their personal ethical judgements about
it to suppress public information about flaws simply on that
basis.  That alone is reason enough to simply distrust any
further writings of the author.  I am personally of the
opinion that we are well past the usefulness of “Responsible
disclosure” as a strategy; giving companies rope, but not
quite enough to hang themselves with, isn’t moving security
forward any faster.

Second, and more important, a privilege escalation
vulnerability isn’t a problem for advanced users, who
already know what Glen is suggesting, i.e. don’t run dodgy
software. It is precisely those people who have been trained,
per the standard advice, not to type in their passwords when
they are suspicious who will be most hit by the root bypass.
Obviously, better advice would be “Just don’t trust anyone”,
but that’s not how the world works, sadly.  I think it’s time
for us to acknowledge that the Mac, once a peaceful
neighbourhood with only the occasional bit of
easily-preventable rogue badness that you could get rid of by
just clicking “No” or “Cancel” or whatever, is now
increasingly occupied by bad software that is
well-advertised, easily installed and hard to recog

Re: pages and text edit question

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

In the latest Pages, go to the toolbar and then action the last radio 
button to show the Document settings instead of format settings. Stop 
interacting and VO-right twice to get to the Formatter group. Interact 
with that and there are two radio buttons at the top, Document and 
Section. Make sure Document is selected. You VO-down and you'll get to 
the Document Formatter scroll area. Interact with that and you'll find 
all kinds of settings such as papge orientation and margins. Near the 
very end is a checkbox for Hyphenation. Mine was defaulted to unchecked 
but it sounds like yours is checked.


CB

On 8/14/15 7:11 AM, denise avant wrote:

Hello all,
I want to permanently  stop automatic hyphenation in Pages. I was looking for 
the option to do this, but haven’t seen it. Is there such an option? does it 
exist in text edit?
Thanks.



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Re: Yosemite 10.10.5 and IOS 8.4.1 released

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When I go to the app store on my osx 10.10.4 machine it says there are 
no updates available. Maybe they are rolling it out in waves and my n 
umber hasn't come up yet.


CB

On 8/14/15 2:47 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

i don't have any updates yet. i am still on the beta 3 on the public beta.˘

On 14 Aug 2015, at 12:26 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

Wonderful!  Thanks for the update.  I'm actually on the beta of I O S 9, but 
that being said, I do need to update my macs to 10.10.5, so I'll go do that 
here once I finnish getting Bootcamp updated to version 6.  Right now though, 
the download's being slower than molasses.  LOL!  Probably just tons of people 
on the server grabbing it.  No biggy.

Chris.

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Both updates for the Mac and phone have just been released.  Download em if you 
got em.

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Re: macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

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From Apple's requirements:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201475
It sounds like OSX 10.10 Yosemite will run on a MacBook late 2008 or 
newer so if this is a 2011 model you should be good to go. Apples 
technical specs don't list a 2011 model but there is a 2010:

https://support.apple.com/kb/SP584?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
which came with a 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo and 2GB RAM, so that seem to 
match your friend's laptop. The spec sheet also says 4GB is the limit on 
RAM. According to Other World Computing's memory upgrade page certain 
models can go up to 6GB RAM:

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/MacBook/DDR2/
Only way to know for sure is to check the model identifier in About This 
Mac. On OSX 10.6 you would choose About This Mac under the Apple menu 
and in the resulting dialog you action the More Info… button. That takes 
you to a detailed list of everything about that machine. In the left nav 
it should default to picking "Hardware" and in the right pane there 
should be a "Hardware Overview". The second item on that list should be 
the Model Identifier. If my guess is correct, it should say "MacBook 
7,1" If that is the case, this site says some folks have actually found 
it will use up to 8GB under OSX 10.6 and 16GB under OSX 10.7 or later 
with the latest EFI updates:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/specs/macbook-core-2-duo-2.4-white-13-polycarbonate-unibody-mid-2010-specs.html

CB

On 8/15/15 9:52 PM, Sunshine wrote:
From what my friend can tell it looks like a 2011 macbook white polly 
carbon
 they are having trouble getting into the overview part of the about 
this mac if this helps it has a built in super drive

how much memory can a macbook be fully upgraded to?
Meanning 8 gigs is this the fullest amount a macbook can take? or can 
it go higher?

On 8/15/2015 8:18 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
What year is the Mac that they have? Yosemite and El Capitan run on 
2009 or new model Macs. Also, it wouldn't hurt to upgrade the ram. I 
have 4 GB of ram in this thing and it ran perfect with Yosemite. It 
may not be necessary but who knows how slow the Mac will run with 
only 2 GB of ram. HTH.


Shawn
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On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Sunshine  wrote:

a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 
10.10 the latest version of osx
they have a macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram 
and an intell core 2 duo processer that is running 2.4 ghz.
Would they need to up the ram to be able to handel the osx 10.10 and 
then possibly the osx 10.11 when it is released?


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Re: Colin Matthews

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Went back through the mail archives and he went by a number of various 
email addresses but the name was always

Colin Matthews
Last post was July 31. Red.Falcon joined the list on 8/4/2010. He was 
also a regular poster on mac-acc...@mac-access.net


CB

On 8/18/15 11:36 AM, Matthew Dierckens wrote:

Hi everyone,
I found out through Facebook group they're calling Mathews passed away last 
week. I know he was on the list, and he was very helpful guy. Just thought I 
would let you all know. I was beginning to wonder about why you hadn't been 
posting, and was actually going to write him a couple days ago when I found out.

Matt Dierckens
Certified Assistive technology specialist
Macintosh trainer
Canadian phone: 5199629140
U.S. Phone: 5734011018
Sent from my iPhone



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Re: Trasferring file.

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

If the other machine has "remote login" turned on in sharing and it's 
not behind a firewall then you should be able to use the sftp command 
from terminal to connect to the other machine and "put" the file 
directly. Many of the chat clients also support direct peer to peer file 
transfers.


CB

On 8/25/15 10:15 AM, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all.
Is it possible to transfer a very large file, about 10 GB, from a mac 
computer to another one, via the internet, maybe using some terminal 
command?
I am lookingfor a solution which doesn't include a third party service 
like iCloud, Dropbox or whatever.


Thanks for any info.

Gabriel.



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