Re: [newbie-it] OT (Fwd) Re: richiesta info linux
Alle 07:05, mercoledì 20 novembre 2002, Claudio Duchi ha scritto: --- Forwarded message follows --- Gent. Cliente normalmente sono gli utenti linux che si ingegnano di far riconoscere le periferiche USB dal loro s/o. Per il prodotto in questione in particolare non abbiamo dati, è una classica periferica USB che da Win ME in poi e Mac OS X non richiede driver, per analogia anche Linux da Kernel 2.4.0 in su dovrebbe (condizionale) supportarla . ahahahaha, io, se fossi in te, risponderei con questo tono: *** Gentile Assistenza Clienti, Vi ringrazio per la cortese risposta. Mi pregio, pero', comunicare che: 1) l'analogia tra sistemi operativi in fatto di driver mi giunge nuova, come del resto il fatto che in generale una periferica funzioni magicamente senza l'esistenza di driver; 2) per l'acquisto di una periferica non posso, al momento, basarmi su congetture ipotetiche: o una cosa e' supportata o non lo e', e si presume che un produttore e i suoi rivenditori siano a conoscenza del fatto, senza dover dipendere dal volontariato della comunita'; 3) dato che, se vi fosse supporto garantito dalla Vostra Societa' per GNU/Linux, _sarei_ con tutta probabilita' un vostro cliente (per ripetere il vostro condizionale), credo che, da utente GNU/Linux, mi ingegnero' a trovare un prodotto simile presso un altro produttore e rivenditore, che supporti con certezza e convinzione GNU/Linux; Vi porgo i migliori auguri di un buon proseguimento. *** -- GNU/Linux Slackware 9.0beta1 * LU #210970 LM #98222 SU #12583
Fwd: Re: [newbie-it] kmail, protezione e pigrizia
-- Messaggio inoltrato -- Subject: Re: [newbie-it] kmail, protezione e pigrizia Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:40:30 +0100 From: LukenShiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alle 12:10, domenica 17 novembre 2002, Beppe ha scritto: ci terrei che la cartella dove kmail mette tutte le email importanti non fosse visibile da nessuno senza sapere una password. Crei un account per quello/a che usa il computer l'1% del tempo (sempre che usi linux), in modo che acceda solo al suo account (oltretutto cosi' non fara' danni alla tua $HOME :P). Elimini l'auto-login e ti scrivi la tua bella pw utente ad ogni avvio (cambiala ovviamente). Verifichi che la tua directory $HOME/Mail non abbia permessi neanche di lettura per altri se non il proprietario (tu) (rwx-- ovvero 700), lo stesso vale per il contenuto (per cartelle in formato mbox [un file e' rappresentativo di una cartella], 600(rw); se usi il formato maildir [una cartella e' una directory con piu' file al suo interno ognuno dei quali contiene un solo messaggio], 700). Credo che questo sia sufficiente, cmq prova a verificare se con laltro account. -- GNU/Linux Slackware 9.0beta1 * LU #210970 LM #98222 SU #12583
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie-it] kmail, protezione e pigrizia
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:05:52 +0100 LukenShiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Messaggio inoltrato -- Subject: Re: [newbie-it] kmail, protezione e pigrizia Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:40:30 +0100 From: LukenShiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alle 12:10, domenica 17 novembre 2002, Beppe ha scritto: ci terrei che la cartella dove kmail mette tutte le email importanti non fosse visibile da nessuno senza sapere una password. Crei un account per quello/a che usa il computer l'1% del tempo (sempre che usi linux), in modo che acceda solo al suo account (oltretutto cosi' non fara' danni alla tua $HOME :P). Elimini l'auto-login e ti scrivi la tua bella pw utente ad ogni avvio (cambiala ovviamente). Questo mi sembra il procedimento più saggio :-) Per venire incontro alla pigrizia originale, si potrebbe pensare ad una procedura del genere: - spostare l'eseguibile mail in mail.orig - preparare uno script da mettere al suo posto che chieda una password e poi lanci Mail. Dovrebbe bastare per guardoni stupidi. Uno furbo si legge il contenuto della directory Mail con less. :-) Più sicuro, invece: - con cron attivare una procedura che ogni tot minuti controlli se kmail è in funzione e, se non lo è, cripti la directory Mail - sostituire kmail con uno script che chieda password, decripti Mail e lanci kmail. a questo punto, anche se lascia il Pc acceso sul suo login, dovrebbe stare abbastanza (non del tutto) sicuro. ciao, Andrea
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie-it] Che caldo!!
Alle 01:12, mercoledì 20 novembre 2002, Emiliano La Licata ha scritto: Aggiunge inoltre che un problema al quale non è riuscito a trovare soluzione è che la batteria se inserita quando il sistema al boot non la possiede non verrà più vista dal sistema stesso... Questo nel mio caso non vale perché ho fatto partire linux con la batteria inserita quando ho dato apm -mv e nonstante tutto come hai visto il sistema mi ha risposto no system battery L'ultima mia osservazione è assolutamente di scarso interesse, come spesso succede :), perché il tipo dell'articolo descrive la sua situazione allorché l'acpi funziona correttamente, cioè solo dopo che il kernel è stato ricompilato, nel mio caso l'acpi non funziona ancora!! Ciao
Re: [newbie-it] mplayer e la GUI (per ora)
Alle 20:52, martedì 19 novembre 2002, freefred ha scritto: mh l'hai configurato con la gui? cioe' hai dato configure --enable-gui, o qualcosa del genere? perche' di default e' disabilitata. il configure, alla fine ti da' dei messaggi, cosa ha trovato e cosa no. Li' c'e' qualcosa? Si in fase di ./configure gli avevo detto enable-gui gia dalla seconda volta ho contollato bene ri compilando eee..mi manca il supporto di GTK.ho controllato ne gli installabili (MDK9.0) e di GTK ne ho una marea hai anche i pacchetti devel? Ora la gui funziona..ho installato un po di pacchetti gtk.devel a caso e ho ri compilato il tutto. Ma la cosa strana era che non mi creava i diversi file di configurazione..non ho capito xke! Cioe' se lo compili senza l'audio non c'e' verso poi di farlo suonare, dovrai riconfigurarlo e ricompilarlo. Allora l'audio funziona.molto inteligentemente non avevo controllato l'output audio era settato su NULL Ora è tutto ok..dopo un paio di esperimenti con audio,codec,skin,e file di configurazzione! Ho notato che la codifica video rispetto a xine (parlo per i divx) è leggermente migliore,l'audio è senza dubbio migliore. Grazie a tutti per i consigli. Ciao , Tom
Re: [newbie-it] xine
Scusate, ma per cancellarsi dalla mailing list... in genere la procedura è rimandata da un link in coda ai messaggi CIao a tutti - Original Message - From: Emiliano La Licata [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] xine Alle 22:56, lunedì 18 novembre 2002, paolo brusasco ha scritto: le librerie le trovi su http://plf.zarb.org/ libdvdnav-ecc libdvdread-ecc xine-d4d-plugin-ecc Grazie Paolo, adesso xine funziona, ho un solo problema non di poco conto.. il dvd parte il lingua originale e non so come settare la lingua italiana e finché si tratta di francese o inglese, con grandi difficoltà ma qualcosa qua e là la capisco, ma ieri ho provato Gatto bianco gatto nero di Kusturica, la lingua originale dovrebbe essere lo slavo dico dovrebbe perché potrebbe anche essere il dialetto zingaro slavo!! :) A parte gli scherzi... sai come si setta la lingua ?? Ciao e grazie
Re: [newbie-it] xine
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:25:21 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scusate, ma per cancellarsi dalla mailing list... in genere la procedura è rimandata da un link in coda ai messaggi non in coda ma nelle intestazioni/headers complete. ciao, andrea
[newbie-it] masterizzare sotto kde3
Sapete come si chiama il programma che permette di masterizzare direttamente sotto kde3 e ha la Gui simile ad EasyCD Creator?Non ricordo più come si chiama. Ciao, Alessandro -- Vedere un mondo in un granello di sabbia e un cielo in un fiore selvatico. Tenere l'infinito sul palmo della mano e cogliere l'eternita' in un'ora. (William Blake
Re: [newbie-it] OT (Fwd) Re: richiesta info linux
Alle 13:03, mercoledì 20 novembre 2002, LukenShiro ha scritto: Alle 07:05, mercoledì 20 novembre 2002, Claudio Duchi ha scritto: --- Forwarded message follows --- Gent. Cliente normalmente sono gli utenti linux che si ingegnano di far riconoscere le periferiche USB dal loro s/o. [CUT] 3) dato che, se vi fosse supporto garantito dalla Vostra Societa' per GNU/Linux, _sarei_ con tutta probabilita' un vostro cliente (per ripetere il vostro condizionale), credo che, da utente GNU/Linux, mi ingegnero' a trovare un prodotto simile presso un altro produttore e rivenditore, che supporti con certezza e convinzione GNU/Linux; Vi porgo i migliori auguri di un buon proseguimento. *** Pienamente d'accordo con la proposta di LukenShiro... ne aggiungo una seconda (e spiego l'accostamento dei due brani qui sopra): un utente Linux è, mediamente, più avanzato di un utente Windows; inoltre, è abbastanza facile trovare in rete le informazioni o le persone in grado di aiutarci a risolvere uno specifico problema. Questo è un punto di forza per gli utenti, ma è un problema nei confronti di un supporto tecnico. Consente, cioè, al primo tecnico arrivato di scrivere che «normalmente sono gli utenti linux che si ingegnano, etc.»... un'assurdità bell'e buona! Credo che rompere le scatole e farsi sentire un po' di più sarebbe meglio. Dietro Linux non c'è una unica società che spinge su produttori e distributori, ed è impossibile avere dati ufficiali sull'effettiva diffusione di Linux tra gli utenti. Così, alcune marche decidono di fare qualcosa, altre semplicemente ignorano il problema. Se, invece, noi utenti prendessimo l'abitudine di contattare sempre i produttori ed il relativo servizio clienti, anche indipendentemente dalla ricerca delle stesse informazioni in rete, otterremmo il risultato di trasformare ogni email in una segnalazione che dice ehi! qui c'è un cliente/potenziale cliente che usa Linux!. Io lo faccio, ormai, per abitudine. Spesso anche quando non ce ne sarebbe bisogno: qualche giorno fa ho acquistato una scheda di rete per un amico... avevo preso le mie informazioni in rete e qui in lista, però ho spedito ugualmente alcune email a società produttrici di schede di rete... anche se sapevo già quali funzionavano con Linux e quali no! Insomma, Linux non ha visibilità commerciale perchè non c'è un Mr. Gates o un Mr. Apple, dietro... tocca a noi utenti farci vedere e sentire, magari anche quando la soluzione che chiediamo la sappiamo già! (fine dell'arringa... ;) ) Daniele
[newbie-it] installare java
salve a tutti potreste indicarmi la procedura corretta per far eseguire il file j2sdk- 1_4_0_01-linux-i386.rpm.bin (cliccandoci sopra non succede niente,ovviamente) grazie
Re: [newbie-it] installare java
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Re: [newbie-it] installare java repost
francesco.melo wrote: tom wrote: Salve alla lista Ieri girando per il web sono incappato nel sito di radio 105 che ha una chatt e web camma il mozzillone non riusciva a visualizzare nullaanzi per dire la verita il sito rimaneva monco(mancavano parecchie parti della pagina). Ora che vimdow e chiuso nella sua piccola partizzione (esiste solo ancora per la mia ragazza) vorrei poter navigare senza intoppi. mi vengono visualizzati 2 avvisi: - This page contains informatio of a type (application/x-java-vm) that can only be viewed with the appropriate Plug-in. --- This page.type (application/x-shockwave-flash) that... .. .... ..Plug-in. OK dove recupero ste application? Non vorrei dire una c***a..per java ho visto che nella distro (mdk9.0) c'è tra le tante cose anche kaffe! che se non ricordo male aveva a che fare con java!mi puo essere utile? Grazie gia da ora per gli eventuali aiuti. Ciao , Tom per la questione libglcore ti chiedo qualche giorno , devo controllare meglio. per quanto riguarda i plugins di mozilla io ho fatto cosi'. ti scarichi quella sventolona di pacchetto rpm.bin da sito di sun per avere java j2sdk-1_4_0_01-fcs-linux-i386.rpm.bin e lo installi prima eseguendo da consolle il file dopo averlo reso eseguibile, ti leggi tutta e dico tutta la licenza sun , accetti e ti scompatta il tuo bel rpm che andrai ad installare. a questo punto ti ritrovi java installato in file:/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.0_01/jre/plugin/i386/ns610 e ci fai un link alla cartella plugin del tuo mozilla ( io preferisco usare le nightily version ed installarmelo io , non amo i font con anti aliasing che mandrake utilizza) per quanto riguarda kaffe' il consiglio e' di disinstallarlo e poi fare un *cd /usr/bin rm java javac jar ln -s /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_01/bin/java java ln -s /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_01/bin/javac javac ln -s /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_01/bin/jar jar* questo ti permette di linkare gli eseguibili di java al posto di quelli fittizi di kaffe. a questo punto hai java installato nella tua linux box ... Ora puoi installare anche limewire per esempio per quanto riguarda flash devi scaricare il tar : flash_linux.tar.gz e poi scompattarlo per poi copiare sempre nella solita cartella plugin di mozilla. et voilà anche il flash e' attivo. un ultimo consiglio : fai provare i giochini di linux alla tua ragazza , se ne appassionerà subito con la mia ha funzionato : posto nuovamente un messaggio scritto una decina di giorni fa, dovrebbe esserti utile ciao vete
Re: [newbie-it] Kylix 3
From: Andrea Celli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Kylix 3 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:20:41 +0100 On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 18:35:38 +0100 Benedetto Santarella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Salve a tutti, ho scaricato il seguente file dal sito della borland kylix_install_source-3_0_tar.gz che dovrebbero essere i srogenti di Kyliz 3 (se non mi sbaglio), Borland non rilascia i sorgenti! li ho decompressi, ma non ci ho capito niente sul come installarlo, c'e' qualche anima buona che mi vuole aiutare? Quando scarichi dal sito Borland trovi la pagina che dice: IMPORTANT: Installation and other troubleshooting issues are described in the files PREINSTALL, INSTALL, and README, all of which are located in the kylix3_open directory. To install the extracted Open Edition, run sh setup.sh from the kylix3_open directory, and follow the setup instructions. ciao, Andrea Scompatti il il file con il comando tar xvzf nomefile entri nella directory e scrivi : ./setup.sh il programma si installerà automaticamente aggiornandoti anche il menù ATTENZIONE! Quando hai scaricato il programma, avresti dovuto dare la tua e-mail. Nella casella di posta trovarai un file che, scaricato, lo devi mettere nella tua home per far partire il compilatore. Ciao P.S. Anch'io uso Kylix 3, se ti serve qualcosa. P.S.2 Il file che hai scaricato deve essere di qualche decina di Mega (adesso sono al lavoro con M$ e non a casa con il mio Linux :( ) _ MSN Search: la risposta alle tue ricerche online http://search.msn.it/
Re: [newbie-it] installare java
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 7:04 pm, alberto wrote about [newbie-it] installare java: salve a tutti potreste indicarmi la procedura corretta per far eseguire il file j2sdk- 1_4_0_01-linux-i386.rpm.bin (cliccandoci sopra non succede niente,ovviamente) grazie da una console dai #bash 1_4_0_01-linux-i386.rpm.bin poi segui le istruzioni bye -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/ Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://web.genie.it/utenti/f/freefred/ ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie-it] Che caldo!!
Alle 00:23, mercoledì 20 novembre 2002, Emiliano La Licata ha scritto: infatti sul desktop c'è l'icona che segnala sempre e comunque il fatto che sono attaccato alla corrente... ti ripeto può dipendere questo dal fatto che in fase di installazione di linux la batteria era staccata del tutto dal resto dei componenti?? non credo proprio... la batteria non è un dispositivo (non la trovi in dev) è il bios che la monitorizza, quando c'è bye miKe ___ Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.19 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 - S.R.U.#705 - R.M.#110932
Re: [newbie] running linux from a windows box via cygwin/XFree86
On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 4:14 pm, Kenn Murrah wrote: Greetings. I want to access my linux box from my windows computer using X ... I've installed cynwin/XFree86 but i'm unclear how to actually start a session of X from my windows computer ... what am i missing? can anyone point me in the right direction? thanks. I do not use it because all my clients are Linux, but I think Putty may be what you need http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ Putty is an ssh client for Windows. It supports X forwarding, so if it works as well as ssh in Linux does all you need do is log onto a Linux ssh server. You will then get a 'telnet' type terminal window, but any X applications you start in that terminal will appear on your client desktop. I like it better than vnc because you only get the windows you are interested in. (Although over a remote connection Tightvnc will make better use of bandwidth) derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Win for Mandrake 9.0 APC mag.
Hi just read what Stephen wrote about tweaking kde and I honestly am finding it a bit slow. I would rather stick with it than change windowing but since most of my time is taken with working I haven't put much thought to fiddling with kde. However I would like to hear some pointers on this. Cause now I am ready. Thanks and lol Aaron On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 09:49, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 18:37, Franki wrote: Hi Guys, The december edition of APC mag (AUstralian PC mag) has voted Mandrake 9.0 as the best OS of 2002.. They also gave away a copy last month as a coverCD (the first two CD's Actually)... and they are constantly sprouting about how good it is.. They are the most popular PC mag in Australia, so alot of people read them. Good news for the cause huh?? rgds Frank Having bought APC last month and having loaded Mandrake on several machines and in several VM's, I do have to say it's not bad for a workstation, but required a bit too much of my time for configuration and tweaking - package management and package installation didn't really fit my requirements. Overall, though - and I do mean this honestly - it's not bad for noobs or for workstations - and does come with some great software integration. I have already recommended it to several clients/customers and the likes. I'm still a bit peeved over the lack of speed in Gnome2 and KDE out of the box, but then again, I wouldn't be happy if I couldn't or didn't have to tweak something. It will live on a few workstations here and in a few VM's here, but my personal baby eats RH 7.3 and suits MY personal needs... On a scale of 1 to 10, I would give MDK 9.0 an 8 - which is quite good, mind you... ...and I don't mean to cause any consternation with the remarks made here - just being honest and open mates! -- Wed Nov 20 18:40:01 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' |linux user:267497 The scene: in a vast, painted desert, a cowboy faces his horse. Cowboy: Well, you've been a pretty good hoss, I guess. Hardworkin'. Not the fastest critter I ever come acrost, but... Horse: No, stupid, not feed*back*. I said I wanted a feed*bag*. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] running linux from a windows box via cygwin/XFree86
yeah, its a piece of cake.. install vncserver on the linux box, and download the win vnc package from the tightvnc website... log on as the user that you want the session started as... then just run vncserver from a console prompt... I actually made a starting file.. called startvnc made it executable... in it I put the following: vncserver -geometry 800x600 -depth 16 :1 so it starts vnc with the specs I wanted.. Then if you start vnc client on windows. and point it to the IP of the linux box.. it will ask you for the password, and its all good from there.. very easy to setup.. regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 3:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux from a windows box via cygwin/XFree86 This sounds interesting. Where can I learn more about it? Is it reasonably easy to set up, as well as easy to use? Would it be an appropriate choice for tempting novices to try linux? Anne On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 5:06 pm, Franki wrote: yep... vncserver rules.. I have a window open on my win2000 box, that window is my linux server.. logged in as my normal user.. works great, I am gonna start fiddling soon and see if i can't get it to tunnel via ssh... then i can use it on remote servers.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kenn Murrah Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 12:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] running linux from a windows box via cygwin/XFree86 trust me ... i want the simplest solution i can find :-) i presume i need to install tightvnc server on my linux box ... will multiple people be able to login that way simultaneously? as though they were linux users (which they are?) ??? thanks, kenn --- Tony S. Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenn, Do you really want to go to all this trouble, tightvnc is a lot simpler. Tony. -Original Message- From: Kenn Murrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] running linux from a windows box via cygwin/XFree86 Greetings. I want to access my linux box from my windows computer using X ... I've installed cynwin/XFree86 but i'm unclear how to actually start a session of X from my windows computer ... what am i missing? can anyone point me in the right direction? thanks. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Backup
Hi everyone Any suggestions for gui backup of a small network. I'm tired of living on the edge. Lee -- Registered Linux user #223705 Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Min spec
On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 12:38 pm, Technoslick wrote: Tell us more about the specs for this older box, Anne. This the perfect place to find if anyone has had any problems with older components in Linux. T OK - this is what I have gleaned so far - M'board - Mainboard Pentium MMX - driver disk is name PC100 CPU AMD 6x86MX 233 BIOS date 7/15/95 Current RAM is 2x16 + 2x32 Mb (96 in all) in SIMMS. Manual says Mobo 'Supports 3 banks of FP/EDO SIMM/DIMM and SDRAM DIMM expandable memory up to 384 Mb'. It also says that it can mix SIMMS and DIMMS, using SIMM banks 3-4 and the two DIMM slots (they quote equally loaded, but I don't know whether it is necessary, or whether it reflects availability of DIMMS at that time). Current video - VidelExcel S3 Proposed changes - Diamond graphics card + Voodoo accelerator (I don't know whether this is the same Voodoo card that Ronald meant - it may be earlier) which appears to have chipsets labelled 3Dfx. Realtek NIC 128Mb DIMM - I presume no-one is going to recommend keeping the 64Mb SIMMS? Any comments/suggestions welcomed - even if it is 'forget it' :-) Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backup
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 12:48 pm, Lee wrote: Hi everyone Any suggestions for gui backup of a small network. I'm tired of living on the edge. Lee drakbackup It is in the drakxtools RPM Performs incremental backup to ftp, ssh, CD, tape or NFS derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] running linux from a windows box via cygwin/XFree86
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 11:46 am, Franki wrote: yeah, its a piece of cake.. install vncserver on the linux box, and download the win vnc package from the tightvnc website... log on as the user that you want the session started as... then just run vncserver from a console prompt... I actually made a starting file.. called startvnc made it executable... in it I put the following: vncserver -geometry 800x600 -depth 16 :1 so it starts vnc with the specs I wanted.. Then if you start vnc client on windows. and point it to the IP of the linux box.. it will ask you for the password, and its all good from there.. very easy to setup.. regards Frank Sounds good - filed for looking at later :-) Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
why not just swap to pop3?? I know for a fact that outlook has no probs with it.. I am writing this mail on lookout via my linux mail server... easier to setup and less crap on the server as a result. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kenn Murrah Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 5:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Okay, gang ... I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no small part to the help I've received from this list, I have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all is well with the world ... The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble finding much of anything else. So I was thinking ... Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple interface that would hopefully keep the troops from screaming every 3 minutes for help.) And for security's sake, would it be possible to mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right direction to learn about how to mirror (if that's the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the intermediate box ... Of course, I'm a true newbie here, so feel free to tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to accomplish my goals. thanks, kenn __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT? Tech Support Letter - A good laugh
troubled user needs to reinstall, and this time, if he installs wife he should do it in a chroot jail... Thats would I did so I could run with twins 2 :-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of George Baker Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 5:49 AM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] OT? Tech Support Letter - A good laugh Dear Tech Support: This year I upgraded from Girlfriend 7.0 to Wife 1.0. I soon noticed that the new program began unexpected child processing that took up a lot of space and valuable resources. No mention of this was included with the product information. In addition, Wife 1.0 installed itself into all other programs and now launches during system initialisation, where it monitors all other system activity. Applications such as Guys Night Out 10.3, Baseball 5.0, Fishing 7.5, and Hockey 3.6 no longer run, crashing the system whenever selected. I can't seem to keep Wife 1.0 in the background while attempting to run my favourite applications. I'm thinking about going back to Girlfriend 7.0, but the uninstall doesn't work on Wife 1.0. Please help!! Thanks, A Troubled User. REPLY: Dear Troubled User, This is a very common problem that men complain about. It is due to a primary misconception. Many people upgrade from Girlfriend 7.0 to Wife 1.0, thinking that it is merely a Utilities and Entertainment program. Wife 1.0 is an OPERATING SYSTEM and is designed by its Creator to run EVERYTHING It is also impossible to delete Wife 1.0 and to return to Girlfriend 7.0. Hidden operating systems files cause Girlfriend 7.0 to emulate Wife 1.0, so nothing is gained. It is impossible to uninstall, delete, or purge the program files from the system once installed. You cannot go back to Girlfriend 7.0 because Wife 1.0 is designed to not allow this. Some have tried Girlfriend 8.0 or Wife 2.0 but end up with more problems than in the original system. Look in your Wife 1.0 manual under Warnings-Alimony/Child Support. I recommend that you keep Wife 1.0 and work on improving the situation. I suggest installing the background application Yes Dear to alleviate software augmentation. Having installed Wife 1.0 myself, I also suggest that you read the entire section regarding 'General Partnership Faults' (GPFs). You must assume joint responsibility for any faults and problems that occur, regardless of their cause. You will also find that GPFs are cyclical. The best course of action is to enter the command C:\APOLOGIZE. Avoid excessive use of C:\YESDEAR because ultimately you will have to give the APOLOGIZE command before the system will return to normal anyway. Remember the system will run smoothly as long as you share the blame for all GPFs. Wife 1.0 is a great program, but it tends to be very high maintenance. Wife 1.0 comes with several support programs, such as Clean and Sweep 3.0, Cook It 1.5 (which replaces Burn It 1.0), and Do Bills 4.2. You must, however, be very careful how you use these programs. Improper use will cause the system to launch the program Nag Nag 9.5. Once this happens, the only way to improve the performance of Wife 1.0 is to purchase additional software. I recommend Flowers 2.1 and Diamonds 5.0 should this happen. WARNING! DO NOT, under any circumstances, install Secretary With Short Skirt 3.3. This application is not supported by Wife 1.0 and will cause irreversible damage to the operating system. Best of luck, Tech Support Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
Something else to consider is a Windows client called Calypso It's totally free, no adware/spyware, and runs like a charm. Hasn't screwed up once with my customers. Allows for all the normal bells and whistles of Outlook Express, without the hassles. Does a tidy job of avoiding the usual virus traps that plague Outlook Express, and allows for auto-backups. Set this up on 60 Windows clients, with their backups automatically going to their My Documents folders on an LM 8.2 server running Samba. Backup of the server is done nightly. Also managed to get around the McAfee Anti-Virus bug that was deleting emails from Outlook Express. Might be simpler than your present course. Just a suggestion. Lanman On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 07:38, Franki wrote: why not just swap to pop3?? I know for a fact that outlook has no probs with it.. I am writing this mail on lookout via my linux mail server... easier to setup and less crap on the server as a result. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kenn Murrah Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 5:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Okay, gang ... I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no small part to the help I've received from this list, I have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all is well with the world ... The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble finding much of anything else. So I was thinking ... Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple interface that would hopefully keep the troops from screaming every 3 minutes for help.) And for security's sake, would it be possible to mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right direction to learn about how to mirror (if that's the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the intermediate box ... Of course, I'm a true newbie here, so feel free to tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to accomplish my goals. thanks, kenn __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] PPPoE and Modem in tandem
my current problem is that my ADSL seems to drop out once a day, nothing in the logs to say why.. I had to write a perl script from crontab that queries google and then yahoo, and if it gets nothing from either.. it restarts the ADSL... works so far, but its a pain.. The only hint I get is a mesage like timeout waiting for PAD0 packets or something to that effect.. any ideas what that could be? and how i can increase that timeout value?? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Spotts Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] PPPoE and Modem in tandem Anne, I share your pain. I was running MDK8.1 with ASDL as my default on a Compaq laptop. But I take my show on the road quite a bit and needed to use the dialer. Problem was, while the dialer would connect, the browser, email program or whatever wouldn't see the connection. I later ran into the same problem with Windows 98 and found that I had to shut down my ADSL software before I could get a dailup connection that the computer would recognize. So if I may rephrase your question: How can one deactivate pppoe once it's started so that ppp can have a clear shot at the connection in a way the software will recognize? Right now, because of my inability to figure that one out, I'm using WinXP on one partition and Linux on another on a new laptop... Best regards, Pete -- ~~~ Peter N. Spotts Science and technology correspondent | The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street, Boston, MA USA 02115 Office: 1-617-450-2449 | Office-in-home: 1-508-520-3139 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.csmonitor.com ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] urpmi setup
Hi hope someone can help me. currently I have the whole mandrake 9.0 source tree plus contrib on my HD. I want to delete this, and have urpmi point to an http mirror or ftp mirror how do I set this up. I have tried using Mandrakes control center but with no success. Thanks Aaron Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] UserDrake on 9.0
Now the dust has settled I wanted to resetup my lan, so I began to add users. Now I find that UserDrake will only acces lowercase logins (not so in 8.2, except at install time). Is there any way round this, or will I have to get my users to change their login on their own machines? That would not be popular. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi setup
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 2:43 pm, Aaron wrote: Hi hope someone can help me. currently I have the whole mandrake 9.0 source tree plus contrib on my HD. I want to delete this, and have urpmi point to an http mirror or ftp mirror how do I set this up. I have tried using Mandrakes control center but with no success. Thanks Aaron Remove your CD sources using rpmdrake, (but keep contrib) and then in a root terminal (while online) urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz (This command on one line) Or some other mirror if you prefer. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 'Unable to save...
In KMail - I could not save a document - Reason: Not able to write maindoc.xml Is this a permissions problem? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 'Unable to save...
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 1:15 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: In KMail - I could not save a document - Reason: Not able to write maindoc.xml Is this a permissions problem? Anne Sorry - forget it. I was trying to save to a restored directory, which had, of course, been set to root only. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Min spec
Good work on the specs, Anne! Here's my two cents: A 233 MHz processor, even with the memory, is going to be really slow in X-windows in MDK 9.0, and tolerable in MDK 8.2. Again, this is based on using KDE, not lighter, more streamlined versions of WMs. As I mentioned before, I have a similar box used for the kids and guests. There has been some talk on the listserv about special kernel considerations for AMD CPUs, but my guess on that was for current generation CPUs, not the older ones like yours. I am running MDK 9.0 on an AMD K6/2-500 MHz box with no concerns. Memory at 128 MBs is fine. 64 MBs will work for MDK 8.2, probably not for MDK 9.0. You didn't mention what the onboard cache memory is. For a board of that age group, my guess is that you have as much as 512k, but possibly 256k. If you have the former, going over 128 MBs in RAM will actually make the computer run slower as it is not able to cache over 128 MBs with that amount. If the latter, I would go and put the 128 MBs in and not worry about it, as the quantity of memory will be more important than any reduction in performance. Stick with DIMMs. Mixing the two is not simply a matter of placing the memory physically in the slots. There are several factors that are very technical, and not worth the bother. Your board is setup to run PC100 memory, or memory that clocks at 100 MHz. Make sure that you buy memory that is the same clock speed. Don't even consider buying SIMMs. Just a big waste of money. The BIOS date on the motherboard is old, pre-1988, which means that you may have some concerns in getting a new hard drive to work with this system. How large is the hard drive you plan on using? If it is too big, you will need to either flash the BIOS with an update (you need to know who made the motherboard, check their site, if they have one, download the update and apply it) or add BIOS Update Card to an ISA slot. the cards are not cheap at around $40-$50 USD. But, if a BIOS update can't be found, it the only way to use a drive that would be out of the BIOS's ability to work with. Most drives come with software designed to handle older BIOS's, but they are designed to load in an MS-DOS environment. So, if you are looking for max sizes on a drive, something around 8 Gigs is it. I couldn't find anything specific on the S3 video card you have now. harddrake would probe the S3 chip and figure out what generic driver to use. However, if you are going to use this card, in test, I strongly urge you to install in Expert mode and specifically pick the 3.3.6 version of X-server. Even then, there's no guarantee that you will find the right combinations of frequencies to make X-windows come up. Trial and error, even if the card is supported. I have no experience with the newer generation Diamond video cards, so I can't offer any help as top whether the Diamond/Voodoo combination will work well. If the card is new, go with the 4.2.2 X-server. If it is older? Which ever one works best for you, or at all. XFree86 3.3.6 gives better 3D support on older accelerated cards (so it says on the install screen). NICs using the Realtek chips are fine for Linux. They are the most common outside of 3Coms and they are picked up by Linux readily enough. Questions: 1) Monitor? 2) Hard Drive capacity? 3) Sound Card? 4) Modem? 5) Anything else? Does this help any? T :-) - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Min spec On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 12:38 pm, Technoslick wrote: Tell us more about the specs for this older box, Anne. This the perfect place to find if anyone has had any problems with older components in Linux. T OK - this is what I have gleaned so far - M'board - Mainboard Pentium MMX - driver disk is name PC100 CPU AMD 6x86MX 233 BIOS date 7/15/95 Current RAM is 2x16 + 2x32 Mb (96 in all) in SIMMS. Manual says Mobo 'Supports 3 banks of FP/EDO SIMM/DIMM and SDRAM DIMM expandable memory up to 384 Mb'. It also says that it can mix SIMMS and DIMMS, using SIMM banks 3-4 and the two DIMM slots (they quote equally loaded, but I don't know whether it is necessary, or whether it reflects availability of DIMMS at that time). Current video - VidelExcel S3 Proposed changes - Diamond graphics card + Voodoo accelerator (I don't know whether this is the same Voodoo card that Ronald meant - it may be earlier) which appears to have chipsets labelled 3Dfx. Realtek NIC 128Mb DIMM - I presume no-one is going to recommend keeping the 64Mb SIMMS? Any comments/suggestions welcomed - even if it is 'forget it' :-) Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
no, outlook has no problems with pop3, i agree. but in typical corporate fashion, i have one camp insisting that i not outlookexpress, and another group of know-it-alls demanding that i use imap ... so i'm trying to find some solution that more or less pleases everyone ... --- Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not just swap to pop3?? I know for a fact that outlook has no probs with it.. I am writing this mail on lookout via my linux mail server... easier to setup and less crap on the server as a result. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kenn Murrah Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 5:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Okay, gang ... I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no small part to the help I've received from this list, I have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all is well with the world ... The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble finding much of anything else. So I was thinking ... Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple interface that would hopefully keep the troops from screaming every 3 minutes for help.) And for security's sake, would it be possible to mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right direction to learn about how to mirror (if that's the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the intermediate box ... Of course, I'm a true newbie here, so feel free to tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to accomplish my goals. thanks, kenn __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ImageMagick display KDE menu
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:53:12AM -0500, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: I'm having an odd problem. I can run ImageMagick display from a command line, but it won't launch from the KDE menu. The only way it will run from the menu is if I put the full command to the program in the little command box and check open in a terminal. Is there another way of setting this up? ImageMagick is really a command-line tool. If you use display to view an image and then click on the image, you will get a floating gui menu--but it is limited in what it can do. On my system, I just associate display with all image types, so clicking on the file uses the display program. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Another OT...Sort Of
You people are just so-o-o-o-o smart, I can't help but ask: If I want to install Xconfigurator on an RH 8.0 system, and I have all the RPMs I need on a CD, could I install them all like this: rpm -ivh --force --nodeps /mnt/cdrom/*.rpm Or am I going to have to install each RPM individually; maybe libraries first, and maybe with the --nodeps switch to keep them from complaining about dependencies? Xconfigurator was dropped in version 8 (%#%%$^!!) and it's my last hope of trying to get a supported card to actually work in XFree86 4.2.0. I know that I could make my own package from source, but I really don't have the time and inclination right now. Thanks for putting up with the OT question! T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Min spec
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 1:24 pm, Technoslick wrote: Stick with DIMMs. Mixing the two is not simply a matter of placing the memory physically in the slots. There are several factors that are very technical, and not worth the bother. Your board is setup to run PC100 memory, or memory that clocks at 100 MHz. Make sure that you buy memory that is the same clock speed. Don't even consider buying SIMMs. Just a big waste of money. Definitely wouldn't buy SIMMS - just whether to use what's there, but I think you're right, it would be better to just use the 128Mb DIMM. On the question of clock speed, however, I think it's not easy to get 100 MHz DIMMS now - they all seem to be 133. I know you can often get away with running them at the slower clock speed, but I'm sure I have read that it's not always OK. Trouble is I can't remember the circumstances. Any comments? The BIOS date on the motherboard is old, pre-1988, which means that you may have some concerns in getting a new hard drive to work with this system. How large is the hard drive you plan on using? If it is too big, you will need to either flash the BIOS with an update (you need to know who made the motherboard, check their site, if they have one, download the update and apply it) or add BIOS Update Card to an ISA slot. the cards are not cheap at around $40-$50 USD. But, if a BIOS update can't be found, it the only way to use a drive that would be out of the BIOS's ability to work with. Most drives come with software designed to handle older BIOS's, but they are designed to load in an MS-DOS environment. So, if you are looking for max sizes on a drive, something around 8 Gigs is it. Yeah - this is a 8Gb max. bios. I can give it a couple of 4Gb disks, and just be careful not to install too many programs. I couldn't find anything specific on the S3 video card you have now. harddrake would probe the S3 chip and figure out what generic driver to use. However, if you are going to use this card, in test, I strongly urge you to install in Expert mode and specifically pick the 3.3.6 version of X-server. Even then, there's no guarantee that you will find the right combinations of frequencies to make X-windows come up. Trial and error, even if the card is supported. It's very old, I'm not sure it's worth the trouble. I have no experience with the newer generation Diamond video cards, so I can't offer any help as top whether the Diamond/Voodoo combination will work well. If the card is new, go with the 4.2.2 X-server. If it is older? Which ever one works best for you, or at all. XFree86 3.3.6 gives better 3D support on older accelerated cards (so it says on the install screen). The Diamond card is the same age as the Voodoo, and was used with it originally. I'll remember what you say about the XFree86 version. I also have an ATi RagePro card (PCI) - again an early one - but I assume that the problems with ATi cards make this a poor choice. NICs using the Realtek chips are fine for Linux. They are the most common outside of 3Coms and they are picked up by Linux readily enough. I use nothing else - even the SMC EZ cards are Realtek. Questions: 1) Monitor? Bog standard vga, I think with Voodoo would be capable of 1024x768 at 16 bit. 2) Hard Drive capacity? See above 3) Sound Card? Creative Soundblaster - again early model. 4) Modem? Not required - will connect via lan. 5) Anything else? Don't think so. Does this help any? Definitely, thanks Anne - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Min spec On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 12:38 pm, Technoslick wrote: Tell us more about the specs for this older box, Anne. This the perfect place to find if anyone has had any problems with older components in Linux. T OK - this is what I have gleaned so far - M'board - Mainboard Pentium MMX - driver disk is name PC100 CPU AMD 6x86MX 233 BIOS date 7/15/95 Current RAM is 2x16 + 2x32 Mb (96 in all) in SIMMS. Manual says Mobo 'Supports 3 banks of FP/EDO SIMM/DIMM and SDRAM DIMM expandable memory up to 384 Mb'. It also says that it can mix SIMMS and DIMMS, using SIMM banks 3-4 and the two DIMM slots (they quote equally loaded, but I don't know whether it is necessary, or whether it reflects availability of DIMMS at that time). Current video - VidelExcel S3 Proposed changes - Diamond graphics card + Voodoo accelerator (I don't know whether this is the same Voodoo card that Ronald meant - it may be earlier) which appears to have chipsets labelled 3Dfx. Realtek NIC 128Mb DIMM - I presume no-one is going to recommend keeping the 64Mb SIMMS? Any comments/suggestions welcomed - even if it is 'forget it' :-) Anne --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go
[newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
I would like to ask of you all your opinion and experience of Open Ofice as supplied my Mandrake 9.0 , and installed in the main mandrake installer. Besides the issue of spellcheckers which we have heard of recently, is there a completeM9.0 OO install, because for the life of me I cannot find a spreadsheet. I know the download version of OO has a spreadsheet programme but as far as I can see this mandrake supplied install which does have nice kstartmenu entries built into the install, does not. If M9.0's OO does not have a spreadsheet programme, and if I downloaded and installed it instead , would I have to remove Mandrakes version, and can you create nice kstart menu entries to run the apps. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi setup
thanks, Aaron On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 15:17, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 2:43 pm, Aaron wrote: Hi hope someone can help me. currently I have the whole mandrake 9.0 source tree plus contrib on my HD. I want to delete this, and have urpmi point to an http mirror or ftp mirror how do I set this up. I have tried using Mandrakes control center but with no success. Thanks Aaron Remove your CD sources using rpmdrake, (but keep contrib) and then in a root terminal (while online) urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz (This command on one line) Or some other mirror if you prefer. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Min spec
There's some timing, density and type issues with mixing SIMMs and DIMMs together. If you have the manual for the motherboard, it probably tells you this, although cryptically so. I have tried it, not always with success. Even with initial success, you can have problems later on. If you don't have to do it to get your memory volume I wouldn't want you to go through the frustration. Actually, the ATi Rage Pro will work fine with Mandrake. I now remember that is what I am using in my 8.2 box for the kids/guests. It would't have the 'umph' to drive Tux Racer or any OpenGL stuff, but has been good to me, so far. I believe it has 8 MBs of RAM on it. Just use the 3.3.6 X-server. You know, I have yet to get even 3 Gigs of programs on a drive from an installation. That's a workstation, mind you, but still with all the games, bells, whistles and Windows manager (KDE and Gnome.) I would think 8 Gigs will be fine for him to learn on. I think that it is more a speed issue in using these 'tiny' drives. The smaller drives are not as fast, and since a swap file is needed, drive speed dramatically affects system speed. Aw, well. :-) You use what you have. I have a 3 and 2 Gig Samsung in the kids' PC. When you say standard vga, you make my eyebrows pop up with concern. True standard VGA cannot support resolutions above 640X480 and sometimes not beyond 16 color, which is nearly useless in X-windows. Do you have any specs on the monitor? Can it really reach 1024X768 at 16-bits? When the video card is capable of driving more color depth and a higher frequency than the monitor can take, this is when the utmost caution is necessary. Frying a monitor in Linux is so-o-o-o easy to do! I love using the SB 16s because they are still supported so well and easy to configure. There's a good chance that you will be to us 'sndconfig' at the console level, after installation, to get the card working, but still no sweat. Not great sound, but work wonderfully in Linux. Sounds like a project destined to work! I wish I could get my daughters interested in such a project. Maybe, it's a 'generation' thing, and I will have to wait for grandchildren? T :-) - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Min spec On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 1:24 pm, Technoslick wrote: Stick with DIMMs. Mixing the two is not simply a matter of placing the memory physically in the slots. There are several factors that are very technical, and not worth the bother. Your board is setup to run PC100 memory, or memory that clocks at 100 MHz. Make sure that you buy memory that is the same clock speed. Don't even consider buying SIMMs. Just a big waste of money. Definitely wouldn't buy SIMMS - just whether to use what's there, but I think you're right, it would be better to just use the 128Mb DIMM. On the question of clock speed, however, I think it's not easy to get 100 MHz DIMMS now - they all seem to be 133. I know you can often get away with running them at the slower clock speed, but I'm sure I have read that it's not always OK. Trouble is I can't remember the circumstances. Any comments? The BIOS date on the motherboard is old, pre-1988, which means that you may have some concerns in getting a new hard drive to work with this system. How large is the hard drive you plan on using? If it is too big, you will need to either flash the BIOS with an update (you need to know who made the motherboard, check their site, if they have one, download the update and apply it) or add BIOS Update Card to an ISA slot. the cards are not cheap at around $40-$50 USD. But, if a BIOS update can't be found, it the only way to use a drive that would be out of the BIOS's ability to work with. Most drives come with software designed to handle older BIOS's, but they are designed to load in an MS-DOS environment. So, if you are looking for max sizes on a drive, something around 8 Gigs is it. Yeah - this is a 8Gb max. bios. I can give it a couple of 4Gb disks, and just be careful not to install too many programs. I couldn't find anything specific on the S3 video card you have now. harddrake would probe the S3 chip and figure out what generic driver to use. However, if you are going to use this card, in test, I strongly urge you to install in Expert mode and specifically pick the 3.3.6 version of X-server. Even then, there's no guarantee that you will find the right combinations of frequencies to make X-windows come up. Trial and error, even if the card is supported. It's very old, I'm not sure it's worth the trouble. I have no experience with the newer generation Diamond video cards, so I can't offer any help as top whether the Diamond/Voodoo combination will work well. If the card is new, go with the 4.2.2 X-server. If it is older? Which ever one works best for you, or at all. XFree86 3.3.6 gives better 3D support on older accelerated cards (so
[newbie] Another OT...Sort Of
You people are just so-o-o-o-o smart, I can't help but ask: If I want to install Xconfigurator on an RH 8.0 system, and I have all the RPMs I need on a CD, could I install them all like this: rpm -ivh --force --nodeps /mnt/cdrom/*.rpm Or am I going to have to install each RPM individually; maybe libraries first, and maybe with the --nodeps switch to keep them from complaining about dependencies? Xconfigurator was dropped in version 8 (%#%%$^!!) and it's my last hope of trying to get a supported card to actually work in XFree86 4.2.0. I know that I could make my own package from source, but I really don't have the time and inclination right now. Thanks for putting up with the OT question! T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
John, Besides the issue of spellcheckers which we have heard of recently, is there a completeM9.0 OO install, because for the life of me I cannot find a spreadsheet. Yes, there certainly is a complete install. What happens when you type oocalc Enter in a terminal? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PPPoE and Modem in tandem
On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 10:40 pm, Robin Turner wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: I used MCC to set up the modem, since I occasionally need to send a fax. In fact I don't want it connected most of the time - just the ability to get it working quickly when I do need it. Does anyone know if there's a way to send faxes via an ethernet connection? I asked my adsl isp, who is infinitely more helpful than most, and he said that he thought it was not possible. I need an icon somewhere linked so that I can use dial-up when I need it. Under 8.2 there was a desktop icon automatically. How can I set up a similar easy access? Just set up an icon to execute kppp OK - I've just put it on the menu. I can't use it for the internet, as I think the adsl has grabbed that, but then I didn't want to. I have sent a test fax this morning, just by writing it in KMail and 'send to fax' and it has worked, so that'll do for me. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 2:03 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: I would like to ask of you all your opinion and experience of Open Ofice as supplied my Mandrake 9.0 , and installed in the main mandrake installer. Besides the issue of spellcheckers which we have heard of recently, is there a completeM9.0 OO install, because for the life of me I cannot find a spreadsheet. It installed on mine without problems. I know the download version of OO has a spreadsheet programme but as far as I can see this mandrake supplied install which does have nice kstartmenu entries built into the install, does not. My menus have office spreadsheets gnumeric, KSpread, OpenOffice.org.calc, Star Office Calc and a similar set for word processors. plus many other modules. I don't know what went wrong with yours. Is it worth uninstalling and trying again? Anne BTW - I haven't checked out the spellchecker problem yet. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Min spec
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 2:14 pm, Technoslick wrote: There's some timing, density and type issues with mixing SIMMs and DIMMs together. If you have the manual for the motherboard, it probably tells you this, although cryptically so. I have tried it, not always with success. Even with initial success, you can have problems later on. If you don't have to do it to get your memory volume I wouldn't want you to go through the frustration. I have used them together once or twice, but feel that it is better avoided if you can. What about the DIMM clock speed issue, though? Actually, the ATi Rage Pro will work fine with Mandrake. I now remember that is what I am using in my 8.2 box for the kids/guests. It would't have the 'umph' to drive Tux Racer or any OpenGL stuff, but has been good to me, so far. I believe it has 8 MBs of RAM on it. Just use the 3.3.6 X-server. That may be easier, then, apart from the fact that it only takes up 1 slot. You know, I have yet to get even 3 Gigs of programs on a drive from an installation. That's a workstation, mind you, but still with all the games, bells, whistles and Windows manager (KDE and Gnome.) I would think 8 Gigs will be fine for him to learn on. I think that it is more a speed issue in using these 'tiny' drives. The smaller drives are not as fast, and since a swap file is needed, drive speed dramatically affects system speed. Aw, well. :-) You use what you have. I have a 3 and 2 Gig Samsung in the kids' PC. Would /swap and /home on 1 drive and the rest on the other be a good configuration? When you say standard vga, you make my eyebrows pop up with concern. True standard VGA cannot support resolutions above 640X480 and sometimes not beyond 16 color, which is nearly useless in X-windows. Do you have any specs on the monitor? Can it really reach 1024X768 at 16-bits? My bad, I think. I meant to imply that it was absolutely average. I don't have the specs, but I could probably get some - it's a Goldstar. When the video card is capable of driving more color depth and a higher frequency than the monitor can take, this is when the utmost caution is necessary. Frying a monitor in Linux is so-o-o-o easy to do! Believe it or not I still have a small drive with Win3.1 on that was once used on this computer. I think the quickest and easiest test would be to put that drive in and check what configuration windows allows. There you are - I knew there was a point to M$'s existance! I love using the SB 16s because they are still supported so well and easy to configure. There's a good chance that you will be to us 'sndconfig' at the console level, after installation, to get the card working, but still no sweat. Not great sound, but work wonderfully in Linux. Sounds like a project destined to work! I wish I could get my daughters interested in such a project. Maybe, it's a 'generation' thing, and I will have to wait for grandchildren? Could be - my daughters both just want something that works with the minimum of effort, like a hammer or screwdriver. The grandson's 14, artistically gifted, and would like to make a living in computer graphics. He's beginning to realise that the more he knows about computers and the better for his future, although I'm a bit concerned that it's a rarified career. It's funny, though, that he turns to grandma for tech support - I doubt if his friends do. But then younger daughter says I used to embarrass her when she was a teenager, because she could not own up to having a mother who had a Stranglers record! I was never a sheep - even got my MSc after I turned 60 g I used to feel lonely when I wanted to discuss tech issues, so this list is a wonderful boost. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apache2, choosing html file to use
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:38:26 -0800 (PST) ivo jorris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've installed apache 2.0.43 successfully. When I test the apache by opening http://localhost/ the English version of Apache page was displayed. I want the Japanese version of Apache page to be displayed, what should I do.? Get a 12-pack of Molson Ice (the stuff you can buy in Canada, not the watered-down shit in the US). Drink it. Stare _really_ hard at the monitor. If Ice doesn't work, you may have to try hard liquor. It's a more expensive solution, but damn it, we're professionals and willing to do whatever it takes. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] flash
Went to there and they said, or the message said there was no document? On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 15:55, Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Alexa Pongracz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:08:29 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] flash Hi, It's me with the functioning, on line system. I am curious as to if there is a plug in for flash that I could download? Does flash work on linux? Alexa ** Hi Alexa, great that your on-line w/Linux! Yes, Flash will work on Linux. You can get an rpm to install and instructions on how to do it here: http://mdkxp.by-a.com/htm/tutorials/flashrpm.php There's lots of other great stuff at DOlson's site too. Hope this helps some. All the best to you. Mandrake rocks! --Angus How do you destroy a righteous person? Give him or her one follower! --ancient Cherokee saying (fr. Earth Medicine by Jamie Sams) *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cloning Stuff
Also Look at http://partimage.org --- Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 09:07, Matt Harrison wrote: Hi all, I am just curious as to the existance of PC deployment software that will run in Linux such as ImageCast of Ghost. I am looking to convert my workstation to 100% linux based but I need to be able to clone windows machines (yes I know it would be easier to switch them to linux, but that is not my call to make) and my research has found nothing. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -Matt Check out parted: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/ HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] flash
Hi I went to Macromedia, the instructions said to save the installer to my desktop, which I did, then it says, unpackage the file...the reading I'm doing says that there could be some sort of unzip utility to run file ends in tar.gz macromedias instructions are clear if I knwe what I was doing I guess On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 15:19, Brian Parish wrote: On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 11:08, Alexa Pongracz wrote: Hi, It's me with the functioning, on line system. I am curious as to if there is a plug in for flash that I could download? Does flash work on linux? Alexa Right here: http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlashP5_Language=English Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
Miark wrote: John, Besides the issue of spellcheckers which we have heard of recently, is there a completeM9.0 OO install, because for the life of me I cannot find a spreadsheet. Yes, there certainly is a complete install. What happens when you type oocalc Enter in a terminal? Miark Definately my goof of the week. I thought that was a claculator, OOps. (excuse the pun). But anyway, how do you feel about it, is it all there , does the spreadsheet work as well as excell, what about the word processor, does it work as well as kword. Give me expreiences please,your likes and dislikes, how it works,what are the quirky things, does it import files from other spreadsheets easily. Recently I imported a kspread file as a commer seperated list into gnumeric, and found out the hard way that all you get is a big list of text based numbers, no formatting and more importantly no formulars, and that can be time consuming and finickety redoing it all over again when you have a large display to go over. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No battery message with Gkrellm/wmapm/wmapci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dimecres 20 Novembre 2002 00:49, en Peter Spotts va escriure: I've just installed Mdk8.1 on a Toshiba 1905-S303 laptop and find that battery monitors don't seem to see the battery-charge status. I've tried Gkrellm's monitor, as well as two windowmaker doc apps -- wmapm and wmacpi. They all seem to compile properly. And yes, I do have a battery in the compartment ;-). Toshiba's built-in LED indicator seems to work just fine, although it's not as informative. Are laptop makers changing their battery configurations on us, or am I missing something in the configuration-install department? Your laptop's probably using acpi instead of apm, so you have to compile latest mandrake kernel (acpi and swsusp prepatched) 2.4.19-19mdk with acpi support and try again (if you haven't already done so) ;) - -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain AOL quini2k, ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE927sjok8j9RhtetwRAh4mAKCRRGd5Vzt+EcBAHkpqBjs8Qvn+MQCfWISP pzi/c8JcRnskyuKu0hXsn5Y= =XJUJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] refreshing of local dir and from ftp site
I use mdk9 and KDE3 and the package manager from mdk9 control center. the problem is that when I choose refresh sources, the window that had jumped up then just dissappears, so that I can't press updatesave. how do I solve the problem? before It worked fine, but now not anymore. rpm files automatically are being put into /update/rpm and that's the directory that is added as local source. until a while ago, only the local source had that problem, but now the ftp source has the same problem. now I have to manually install the local rpm... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Min spec
From: Anne Wilson I have used them together once or twice, but feel that it is better avoided if you can. What about the DIMM clock speed issue, though? T: Sorry! I forgot that you asked that. The best answer I can give you on whether you really need to buy PC100 memory: If your motherboard manual warns you to use it, as it does in the manual for a MicroStar MS-5169 motherboard, when your CPU bus frequency is 100 MHz, then you must. If your manual does not make any mention of this, the PC100 memory may have been in the system because that was all that was availble at the time. The external bus speed on a 233 MHz processor is 66.6 MHz, so I would think that you should be able to use PC133 memory. I do here, in both of my boxes that use P233 MMX's. I would not suggest mixing chips of different clock speeds. Once again, I have done it and it has worked, and then on other systems not worked. The newer and/or more advanced the motherboard, the greater the possibility that it can handle mixed speeds without a problem. Of course, the system will drop down to the lowest rating installed. Would /swap and /home on 1 drive and the rest on the other be a good configuration? T: I have to chuckle on this question because I am so lazy with this that I usually let Mandrake partition for me. If you do, it will most likely make the second drive your /home partition, dividing up the primary drive as / and /swap. The pros on having seperate partitions for the other critical directories seem moot on such a small drive configuration, but I'm sure there are many others that would have a different opinion. For what you want to do with this box, K.I.S.S. works fine in my book. Mandrake will automatically try to make /swap about 400 MBs for 128 MBs of RAM. It works for me. The rest of the primary drive is enough to squeek in pretty much all that he is going to have horsepower to run (IMHO). The 4 GB /home gives him tons of space to download his updates (and keep them, if he needs them again) or to store his personal stuff. My bad, I think. I meant to imply that it was absolutely average. I don't have the specs, but I could probably get some - it's a Goldstar. T: Goldstar has never been appreciated as quality componentry, but my experience with their goods is that they perform, and keep performing long after the name-band stuff has died and become a memory. However, the only way to know is to see if you can get specs off the manual or find them on the Web. Of all the stuff that you have in a PC, I think frying the monitor has got to be the easiest 'no-no' to accomplish. Then again, I carry my own personal, customized black cloud with me all the time, so who am I to say? ;-) Believe it or not I still have a small drive with Win3.1 on that was once used on this computer. I think the quickest and easiest test would be to put that drive in and check what configuration windows allows. There you are - I knew there was a point to M$'s existance! T: If you can't beat 'em, suck 'em dry for all they can give you! :-D Keep in mind that Win 3.1 can't drive high specs without the drivers being there for the display adapter. If you put the ATi card in, you will need ATi Win 3.x drivers to see what the display can handle. Then you'll have to manually bump the frequency up until it won't display. It's a lot of work to do it in Win 3.x. Lastly, the monitor that I fried not too long ago in Linux had no problems running 1024X768, 24-bit and at a frequncy of 70 Hz in Windows. Linux is notorious for trying to drive refresh rate well beyond 75 Hz, which will kill older monitors. In the absense of specs, I would install without testing X-windows, then deal with it it later in Xconfigurator. With or without specs, you can still use Xconfigurator to manually put your horizontal and vertical frequencies in, or edit the 'XF86Config' file manually with an editor. Could be - my daughters both just want something that works with the minimum of effort, like a hammer or screwdriver. The grandson's 14, artistically gifted, and would like to make a living in computer graphics. He's beginning to realise that the more he knows about computers and the better for his future, although I'm a bit concerned that it's a rarified career. It's funny, though, that he turns to grandma for tech support - I doubt if his friends do. But then younger daughter says I used to embarrass her when she was a teenager, because she could not own up to having a mother who had a Stranglers record! I was never a sheep - even got my MSc after I turned 60 g I used to feel lonely when I wanted to discuss tech issues, so this list is a wonderful boost. Anne T: OK, Anne, you are now intmidating me! I wish I had had a gramndma like you. sigh And yes, it is lonely not having someone to discuss this stuff with. That's what makes this group so important to all of us. For those of us that haven't learned it all (my hand is raised high on this one!), this is really a
Re: [newbie] urpmi setup
I did it and this is what I got root@adsl aaron]# urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz added medium Distro_9.0 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD (disk1).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.windowscontr.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz] retrieving description file of Distro_9.0... retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of Distro_9.0... curl: (19) Can't open synthesis.hdlist.cz: No such file or directory ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0 retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium Distro_9.0 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Distro_9.0.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium Distro_9.0 unable to update medium Distro_9.0 I will try another ftp also any idea what went worng?? Aaron On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 15:17, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 2:43 pm, Aaron wrote: Hi hope someone can help me. currently I have the whole mandrake 9.0 source tree plus contrib on my HD. I want to delete this, and have urpmi point to an http mirror or ftp mirror how do I set this up. I have tried using Mandrakes control center but with no success. Thanks Aaron Remove your CD sources using rpmdrake, (but keep contrib) and then in a root terminal (while online) urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz (This command on one line) Or some other mirror if you prefer. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi setup
Hi, Can you tell me how to correct this. I tried running: urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.nmt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz and got: added medium Distro_9.0 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Updates for Mandrake Linux 9.0 (ftp1u).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Carl Download Area.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu.cz] retrieving description file of Distro_9.0... retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of Distro_9.0... curl: (19) synthesis.hdlist.cz: No such file or directory. ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0 retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium Distro_9.0 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Distro_9.0.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium Distro_9.0 unable to update medium Distro_9.0 Do I need to run something else to create synthesis.hdlist.cz? Thanks, Carl Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 2:43 pm, Aaron wrote: Hi hope someone can help me. currently I have the whole mandrake 9.0 source tree plus contrib on my HD. I want to delete this, and have urpmi point to an http mirror or ftp mirror how do I set this up. I have tried using Mandrakes control center but with no success. Thanks Aaron Remove your CD sources using rpmdrake, (but keep contrib) and then in a root terminal (while online) urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz (This command on one line) Or some other mirror if you prefer. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] flash
Title: RE: [newbie] flash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alexa Pongracz Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] flash Hi I went to Macromedia, the instructions said to save the installer to my desktop, which I did, then it says, unpackage the file...the reading I'm doing says that there could be some sort of unzip utility to run file ends in tar.gz macromedias instructions are clear if I knwe what I was doing I guess On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 15:19, Brian Parish wrote: On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 11:08, Alexa Pongracz wrote: Hi, It's me with the functioning, on line system. I am curious as to if there is a plug in for flash that I could download? Does flash work on linux? Alexa Right here: http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash_Language=English Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Alexa, the file is in a tar zip format. you can upackage it by going into a console and navigating to the folder that the installer is in. Do a change directory command like: cd Documents . Then at the prompt type tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz and hit enter. The file will unzip and place its pacakages. Then you should install as per the instructions in the readme file or on the web page. HTH
Re: [newbie] urpmi setup
On 20 Nov 2002 20:08:36 +0200 Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any idea what went worng?? Use: ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/ with synthesis.hdlist.cz Use another mirror if desired the above is only an example. Do not use ftp.nmt.edu, the synthesis is unreadable. But whichever you use the full path should be given. Charles Fortune's real live weird band names #439: Mary Kay and the Cosmetics -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
exactly what is your problem with imap and outlook??? As I understand it, imap works well with outlook. give us your versions, (imap) etc and the error details when it doesn't work.,. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kenn Murrah Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 9:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? no, outlook has no problems with pop3, i agree. but in typical corporate fashion, i have one camp insisting that i not outlookexpress, and another group of know-it-alls demanding that i use imap ... so i'm trying to find some solution that more or less pleases everyone ... --- Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not just swap to pop3?? I know for a fact that outlook has no probs with it.. I am writing this mail on lookout via my linux mail server... easier to setup and less crap on the server as a result. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kenn Murrah Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 5:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Okay, gang ... I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no small part to the help I've received from this list, I have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all is well with the world ... The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble finding much of anything else. So I was thinking ... Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple interface that would hopefully keep the troops from screaming every 3 minutes for help.) And for security's sake, would it be possible to mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right direction to learn about how to mirror (if that's the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the intermediate box ... Of course, I'm a true newbie here, so feel free to tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to accomplish my goals. thanks, kenn __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Another OT...Sort Of
what are you talknig about?? your post doesn't make sense... can you not download an xconfigurator src rpm from rpmfind.net and just rebuild it?? *.rpm will screw your system. conflicting packages and stuff... perhaps your question would be better asked on a redhat list. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Technoslick Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Another OT...Sort Of You people are just so-o-o-o-o smart, I can't help but ask: If I want to install Xconfigurator on an RH 8.0 system, and I have all the RPMs I need on a CD, could I install them all like this: rpm -ivh --force --nodeps /mnt/cdrom/*.rpm Or am I going to have to install each RPM individually; maybe libraries first, and maybe with the --nodeps switch to keep them from complaining about dependencies? Xconfigurator was dropped in version 8 (%#%%$^!!) and it's my last hope of trying to get a supported card to actually work in XFree86 4.2.0. I know that I could make my own package from source, but I really don't have the time and inclination right now. Thanks for putting up with the OT question! T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problems w/ Mandrake Update
Any time I try and connect to Mandrake Update it tells me There was an error adding the medium to urpmi. or some such thing. It won't work regardless of which mirror I pick. I've tried looking on the Mandrake site but couldn't really find anything. Thanks Ryan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi setup
Whoops.. sorry my mistake. I cannot even cut and paste properly it should be urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz I do recommend that rediris server. It is really fast. :) derek On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 6:08 pm, Aaron wrote: I did it and this is what I got root@adsl aaron]# urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz added medium Distro_9.0 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD (disk1).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.windowscontr.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz] retrieving description file of Distro_9.0... retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of Distro_9.0... curl: (19) Can't open synthesis.hdlist.cz: No such file or directory ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0 retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium Distro_9.0 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Distro_9.0.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium Distro_9.0 unable to update medium Distro_9.0 I will try another ftp also any idea what went worng?? Aaron On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 15:17, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 2:43 pm, Aaron wrote: Hi hope someone can help me. currently I have the whole mandrake 9.0 source tree plus contrib on my HD. I want to delete this, and have urpmi point to an http mirror or ftp mirror how do I set this up. I have tried using Mandrakes control center but with no success. Thanks Aaron Remove your CD sources using rpmdrake, (but keep contrib) and then in a root terminal (while online) urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz (This command on one line) Or some other mirror if you prefer. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOffice Spell Checker.
I had a similar problem getting extra language dictionaries. The folks in #openoffice.org at irc.openprojects.org were very helpful. In Mandrake, we just need the appropriate myspell packages to be installed, so make sure that the corresponding myspell package for the language you are looking for (presumably English) is installed. For example: myspell-en_US-1.0.1-0.20020626.4mdk.noarch.rpm I find that if I have a program the should be working but isn't, sometimes a forced upgrade of that programs helps if the program was improperly installed without my knowledge. Running rpm -Uvh --force myspell-en_US-1.0.1-0.20020626.4mdk.noarch.rpm from a console as root (assuming that file is in my local directory) has resolved problems like this for me. I hope this helps. Also, make sure that you have the proper dictionary chosen in Tools-Options-Language Settings-Languages Hope this helps. - Paul On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 14:55, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Hello, Can any one suggest a method of getting OO Spell Checker in Mandrake 9.0 working. I have looked around without finding information, except at www.openoffice.org from whence I downloaded 'OOodi-static-0.55-0.i386.rpm'. However I simply cannot get it to run! I expect this has come up some where before, if so please let me know. With thanks in advance of your kind reading. Malcolm Candlish. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOffice Spell Checker.
Having an installation only a few days old, this was new to me. I can confirm, however, that after installing the UK dictionary and hyphenation tool, and enabling them under Tools Options Language Settings Writing Aids the spellchecker picked up all the deliberately inserted mis-spellings. I have to say that when something does not work, my first thought is what am I doing wrong, or what have I failed to do? Anne On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 10:31 pm, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: But runing properly the spell checker is as easy as to have the appropriate files in the wordbook directory and with the dictionary.lst well configured!; if you need some help about how to do it manually, ask me. Also the OOo-dicinstaller could do that automatically. I have OOo 1.0.1 runing fine under Mandrake 9.0, in fact in our laboratory we use it as major word-processor. El Mar 19 Nov 2002 22:28, Miark escribió: Craig, you can't be serious. Miark Mandrake's repair tool does not fix the problem. Just off topic, the Mandrake guys may have done this on purpose (as a ploy) to put you onto StarOffice (i.e. buy the PowerPack). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KOffice doubts
Although the various elements of KOffice do seem quite good, I am seriously concerned that there is little or no ability to communicate with other programs. About a week ago John raised the question of a KOffice spreadsheet, which he neede to try in another format because it was getting to big for KOffice. It seems to me a serious flaw that any office package does not attempt to read/write other major formats. I may resent having to use MSOffice formats, but at least they can be used for moving data between applications, as did the ability that most windows spreadsheet programs had of saving an early Lotus 1-2-3 format. It is not, I think, adequate to simply say that you can save a csv file. Useful they may be when you're in a corner, but reformatting everything and so on is a huge job. There is much that is good in KOffice, but if they insist on a M$-like proprietary format to the exclusion of all else they will damage their product. My 2p-worth, anyway. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Min spec
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 3:55 pm, Technoslick wrote: From: Anne Wilson The external bus speed on a 233 MHz processor is 66.6 MHz, so I would think that you should be able to use PC133 memory. I think it will be OK if I can't get PC100. I'll just stick to the one DIMM, I think - mixed speed problems avoided. Would /swap and /home on 1 drive and the rest on the other be a good configuration? T: I have to chuckle on this question because I am so lazy with this that I usually let Mandrake partition for me. If you do, it will most likely make the second drive your /home partition, dividing up the primary drive as / and /swap. The pros on having seperate partitions for the other critical directories seem moot on such a small drive configuration, but I'm sure there are many others that would have a different opinion. For what you want to do with this box, K.I.S.S. works fine in my book. Mandrake will automatically try to make /swap about 400 MBs for 128 MBs of RAM. It works for me. The rest of the primary drive is enough to squeek in pretty much all that he is going to have horsepower to run (IMHO). The 4 GB /home gives him tons of space to download his updates (and keep them, if he needs them again) or to store his personal stuff. Sounds OK to me. I'll leave it to it then. My bad, I think. I meant to imply that it was absolutely average. I don't have the specs, but I could probably get some - it's a Goldstar. T: Goldstar has never been appreciated as quality componentry, but my experience with their goods is that they perform, and keep performing long after the name-band stuff has died and become a memory. However, the only way to know is to see if you can get specs off the manual or find them on the Web. Of all the stuff that you have in a PC, I think frying the monitor has got to be the easiest 'no-no' to accomplish. Then again, I carry my own personal, customized black cloud with me all the time, so who am I to say? Lastly, the monitor that I fried not too long ago in Linux had no problems running 1024X768, 24-bit and at a frequncy of 70 Hz in Windows. Linux is notorious for trying to drive refresh rate well beyond 75 Hz, which will kill older monitors. My monitor is a low spec Taxan LCD, so not capable of high refresh rates. The display problem I had there under 8.2 was that the os identified it as a high performance 1024x768, capable of 70Hz. When I booted up I had a large blue patch saying that 85Hz was not advisable. 85Hz? Anyway, I found that the next entry on the list was 1024x768 without the high performance bit, and everything was fine after that. But I still don't know whey it was trying 85 when it had identified it as capable of 70. I couldn't care less about owning up to what I don't know, as long as someone is willing to teach me more. I'm not proud - I'll pick anyone's brains ;-) Anyway, it seems that you have the making of a 1st-timer. As long as your grandson doesn't expect the world from it, he should enjoy it. You do realize, don't you, that if his mind grabs on to Linux, you will be asking him for help very soon? giggle Can't wait! Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi setup
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 6:08 pm, Aaron wrote: I did it and this is what I got root@adsl aaron]# urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with snip retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of Distro_9.0... curl: (19) Can't open synthesis.hdlist.cz: No such file or directory I could be way off beam, Aaron, but I got something similar the first time I tried. I was simply starting from the wrong directory. HTH Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PPPoE and Modem in tandem
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:50 am, Peter Spotts wrote: Anne, I share your pain. I was running MDK8.1 with ASDL as my default on a Compaq laptop. But I take my show on the road quite a bit and needed to use the dialer. Problem was, while the dialer would connect, the browser, email program or whatever wouldn't see the connection. I later ran into the same problem with Windows 98 and found that I had to shut down my ADSL software before I could get a dailup connection that the computer would recognize. So if I may rephrase your question: How can one deactivate pppoe once it's started so that ppp can have a clear shot at the connection in a way the software will recognize? Right now, because of my inability to figure that one out, I'm using WinXP on one partition and Linux on another on a new laptop... Best regards, Pete I don't know whether I am adding to the confusion or helping. I have been using a dialup modem and very easily acessing it via kppp. I am changing to dsl which involved pitting in a lan card. My dsl connection isn't even set up yet but I found that connecting the LAN card led to a similar problem where kppp would connect OK but email, browser etc would not work. I sort of got around it by using mandrake control centre to set up a separate profile configured for dial up access. The only problem now is that I have to use mandrake control centre to access the dial up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M$ and 85%
Could you provide a link to validate that this is a true MS report? But anyway, from the open source standpoint of view we could only break the dominance if we produce software, that will be accepted by the masses. A exotic thing like the linux OS will never do this job! Just yesterday my mathematics professor ask me why he can't execute my elf-binaries under windows. Huu, how to explain?? The masses have no idea what an OS is anyway, they just want to use a computer like a radio or a kitchen micro wave emitter (the deadliest weapon I ever played with*1 =). So I always have to conclude, that there's a need for high level applications, that can compete with Microsoft's solutions and even if they have losses on this field this still makes up there biggest field of acceptance, isn't it? And if portable user interfaces exist that fit better to the psychological needs of the dumbest then things can change in the magic underground. *1 It's the same with micro waves like with operation systems. Most people have no idea what cancer really is. They just know that their handy works and that that cancer is deadly in most cases. OK, enough OT for today, FRANK. On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 11:23, John Richard Smith wrote: According to yesterdays FT, Operating system division supports other arms which show heavy losses Windows OS enjoys 85% profit margins, while remaining business enjoy losses. The client division made a profit of $2.48bn on revenue $2.89bn amoungst M$ 's other businesses , Home entertainment(XBox) lost$177M thought to be a loss of $120 per box MSN lost$97M Business solutions lost$68M CE/Mobility lost $33M If anything happens to windblows OS (XP sales) this business is going down fast.Strange no mention of what level XP is selling at. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
Have you looked at Mozilla Mail? I admit earlier versions left something to be desired but in the latest versions it seems to work pretty good. On top of that Mozilla seems to have fewer security issues than IE (If your users seem reluctant to use Mozilla rather than IE just show them how to block pop-up windows and how to use tabs...) and when and if they ever switch to a non-Microsoft OS they will already be familliar with the browser and mail applications. -Original Message- From: Kenn Murrah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:49:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Okay, gang ... I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no small part to the help I've received from this list, I have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all is well with the world ... The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble finding much of anything else. So I was thinking ... Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple interface that would hopefully keep the troops from screaming every 3 minutes for help.) And for security's sake, would it be possible to mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right direction to learn about how to mirror (if that's the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the intermediate box ... Of course, I'm a true newbie here, so feel free to tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to accomplish my goals. thanks, kenn __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] font size in konqueror
Hmm, I'm using 3.0.3 and it enlarges even text, which size is set explicitly by a style sheet. Perhaps to you have to press multiple times the +/- buttons? On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 15:44, bascule wrote: is the minimum font size set in konqueror overidable by individual web sites? i've set my minimum to be 11 with a 17 crt, my eyesight can't really cope with less, however often i have to use the 'increase font size' button to be able to read! fonts and stuff always went over my head, is it just that 11 point in one font can be a lot smaller than 11 point in another? bascule -- 'They were myths and they were real,' he said loudly. 'Both a wave and a particle.' (Guards! Guards!) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi setup
Thanks, Derek. That worked. Derek Jennings wrote: Whoops.. sorry my mistake. I cannot even cut and paste properly it should be urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz I do recommend that rediris server. It is really fast. :) derek On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 6:08 pm, Aaron wrote: I did it and this is what I got root@adsl aaron]# urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz added medium Distro_9.0 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD (disk1).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.windowscontr.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz] retrieving description file of Distro_9.0... retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of Distro_9.0... curl: (19) Can't open synthesis.hdlist.cz: No such file or directory ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0 retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium Distro_9.0 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Distro_9.0.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium Distro_9.0 unable to update medium Distro_9.0 I will try another ftp also any idea what went worng?? Aaron On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 15:17, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 2:43 pm, Aaron wrote: Hi hope someone can help me. currently I have the whole mandrake 9.0 source tree plus contrib on my HD. I want to delete this, and have urpmi point to an http mirror or ftp mirror how do I set this up. I have tried using Mandrakes control center but with no success. Thanks Aaron Remove your CD sources using rpmdrake, (but keep contrib) and then in a root terminal (while online) urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz (This command on one line) Or some other mirror if you prefer. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] copying audio cd on the fly
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 1:12 pm, Miark wrote: X-CD-Roast works well for me. Miark With audio CDs? When I try it it says it can't copy audio CDs on the fly. Is there a setting somewhere, or are you just a lucky guy? G Jon On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:57:47 -0500 Jonathan Dlouhy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to make a direct copy of an audio CD on the fly? Either from the command line or (preferably) a GUI program. Thanks, -- Jonathan Dlouhy Wednesday, November 20, 2002 Never drive through a small Southern town at 100mph with the local sheriff's drunken 16-year-old daughter on your lap. -Anonymous member of a chain gang Registered Linux user #264482 Powered by Mandrake Linux 9 - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
also, if you apply the IE theme, your users will think they are using IE anyway.. its sorta cool, I can't use it though cos I have mozilla 1.2b and they are not compatable (yet) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Dawson Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2002 2:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Have you looked at Mozilla Mail? I admit earlier versions left something to be desired but in the latest versions it seems to work pretty good. On top of that Mozilla seems to have fewer security issues than IE (If your users seem reluctant to use Mozilla rather than IE just show them how to block pop-up windows and how to use tabs...) and when and if they ever switch to a non-Microsoft OS they will already be familliar with the browser and mail applications. -Original Message- From: Kenn Murrah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:49:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Okay, gang ... I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no small part to the help I've received from this list, I have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all is well with the world ... The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble finding much of anything else. So I was thinking ... Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple interface that would hopefully keep the troops from screaming every 3 minutes for help.) And for security's sake, would it be possible to mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right direction to learn about how to mirror (if that's the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the intermediate box ... Of course, I'm a true newbie here, so feel free to tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to accomplish my goals. thanks, kenn __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 6:14 pm, Jim Dawson wrote: Have you looked at Mozilla Mail? I admit earlier versions left something to be desired but in the latest versions it seems to work pretty good. On top of that Mozilla seems to have fewer security issues than IE (If your users seem reluctant to use Mozilla rather than IE just show them how to block pop-up windows and how to use tabs...) and when and if they ever switch to a non-Microsoft OS they will already be familliar with the browser and mail applications. I've installed Mozilla on 4 windows systems now, and all four users are happy. They find it easy to use (and it has the advantage that it is so similar to the linux version that you always know what they're talking about when the ask a question), and yes, the ability to block pop-ups and use tabs makes it very attractive. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi setup
thanks to everyone. just appears that I tried the wrong directory. next question. Is there a way I can add a non mandrake ftp to urpmi?? I am interested in multimedia and would like to be able to update from the net. Aaron On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 20:19, Carl J. Bauman wrote: Thanks, Derek. That worked. Derek Jennings wrote: Whoops.. sorry my mistake. I cannot even cut and paste properly it should be urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz I do recommend that rediris server. It is really fast. :) derek On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 6:08 pm, Aaron wrote: I did it and this is what I got root@adsl aaron]# urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz added medium Distro_9.0 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD (disk1).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.windowscontr.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz] retrieving description file of Distro_9.0... retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of Distro_9.0... curl: (19) Can't open synthesis.hdlist.cz: No such file or directory ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0 retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium Distro_9.0 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Distro_9.0.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium Distro_9.0 unable to update medium Distro_9.0 I will try another ftp also any idea what went worng?? Aaron On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 15:17, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 2:43 pm, Aaron wrote: Hi hope someone can help me. currently I have the whole mandrake 9.0 source tree plus contrib on my HD. I want to delete this, and have urpmi point to an http mirror or ftp mirror how do I set this up. I have tried using Mandrakes control center but with no success. Thanks Aaron Remove your CD sources using rpmdrake, (but keep contrib) and then in a root terminal (while online) urpmi.addmedia Distro_9.0 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/ with ./synthesis.hdlist.cz (This command on one line) Or some other mirror if you prefer. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Running kppp as root- is it a problem?
I used to run kppp as a user to access my dial-up modem without any problems. After installing a LAN card I found that I when I ran kppp as user the connection would be made but the browser and email would not work. Mandrake control centre insisted that I was not connected to the internet. I worked around the problem by creating a new profile and using Mandrake control centre to access the internet. The only problem now is that kppp runs as root. 1. Is this a security problem 2. How can I go back to using kppp as user? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] flash
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 11:00 am, you wrote: Alexa, the file is in a tar zip format. you can upackage it by going into a console and navigating to the folder that the installer is in. Do a change directory command like: cd Documents . Then at the prompt type tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz and hit enter. The file will unzip and place its pacakages. Then you should install as per the instructions in the readme file or on the web page. HTH Thats the easier (and my preferred) way of doing it, but you can also right-click on the file, pick extract here, and then all with the same effect. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 'Always on Top' in Gnome?
Am I wrong in the assumption that there's no such concept in Gnome? No windows have that option and the few apps that have their own 'on top' function don't work. (XMMS comes to mind) Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Min spec
On Wednesday November 20 2002 11:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 3:55 pm, Technoslick wrote: From: Anne Wilson The external bus speed on a 233 MHz processor is 66.6 MHz, so I would think that you should be able to use PC133 memory. Ram is what it'll do. The PC66, 100, 133, etc. labels are just that, marketing labels. My daughter is usin a pc (for years now) with ancient generic 66mhz ram runnin at 112mhz, Cas3 (PII-350 at 392, Aopen mobo). It'll pass memtest86 at 133mhz, Cas3. Twice it's 'label' ; The system I'm typing on is usin 5 year old pc100 at 135mhz, Cas2 (1.4 Tbird at 1.55gig, Soyo), mixed with two other Crucial pc133 sticks (7.5ns, Cas2). They all get a steady 3.45v IO from the Soyo and Sparkle power supply, APC UPS. Quality ram is important, but even the best ram won't perform properly on marginal (cheap) motherboards. In many systems the motherboard is more important than the ram's rating for optimal, or even just adequate memory performance. Ram is more properly spec'd in terms of ns and Cas rating and the quality and design of the pcb (the card) the ram chips are on. As always the power supply is also a _very_ important element. FWIW, the old pc100 will pass memtest86 runnin forever at 155mhz Cas3, -0- errors on a Soyo (6ba+III, 3.5v IO). It was labeled pc100, but it's quality Mosel Vitelic 8ns Cas2 ram. To figure what ram is needed (assuming a good mobo and psu), take 1000 divided by the FSB speed. EG, 1000/155 = 6.45. So that old pc100 was runnin at 6.45ns when it blew by the memtest86 tests flawlessly ;) For DDR sdram (another marketing gimick) use one half, EG, pc2700, 266mhz ram really runs at 133mhz. So 1000/133 = 7.5ns. Cas isn't as important. Altho theorectically it addresses in 2/3's the cycles, the real world enhancement is about 5 to 7%. I'd advise to always buy Cas2 rated ram tho. So, ram is what it'll do. 'Sides it doesn't determine how it's timed, the motherboard does (bios settings, IO voltage, capacitors), and it needs steady, clean power. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another OT...Sort Of
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 00:34, Technoslick wrote: You people are just so-o-o-o-o smart, I can't help but ask: If I want to install Xconfigurator on an RH 8.0 system, and I have all the RPMs I need on a CD, could I install them all like this: rpm -ivh --force --nodeps /mnt/cdrom/*.rpm Or am I going to have to install each RPM individually; maybe libraries first, and maybe with the --nodeps switch to keep them from complaining about dependencies? Xconfigurator was dropped in version 8 (%#%%$^!!) and it's my last hope of trying to get a supported card to actually work in XFree86 4.2.0. I know that I could make my own package from source, but I really don't have the time and inclination right now. Thanks for putting up with the OT question! T Be careful with using the Xconfigurator - you might want to try using Linuxconf instead - easily downloaded. What is it about XConfigurator that you find more useful than say, XF86Config instead? -- Thu Nov 21 07:15:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' |linux user:267497 No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream. Hill House, not sane, stood by itself against its hills, holding darkness within; it had stood so for eighty years and might stand for eighty more. Within, walls continued upright, bricks met neatly, floors were firm, and doors were sensibly shut; silence lay steadily against the wood and stone of Hill House, and whatever walked there, walked alone. -- Shirley Jackson, The Haunting of Hill House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Is a restart necessary?
If I make alterations to fstab, do I need to reboot, or can I cause it to be read some other way? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
John Richard Smith wrote: But anyway, how do you feel about it, is it all there , does the spreadsheet work as well as excell, what about the word processor, does it work as well as kword. Give me expreiences please,your likes and dislikes, how it works,what are the quirky things, does it import files from other spreadsheets easily. Recently I imported a kspread file as a commer seperated list into gnumeric, and found out the hard way that all you get is a big list of text based numbers, no formatting and more importantly no formulars, and that can be time consuming and finickety redoing it all over again when you have a large display to go over. My experience is that it works fine in all important respects. I can't say if it works as well as KWord, since I gave up on that particular app a few years back. No problems importing from Excell or exporting to it (which is very important for me, as I keep student grades in OOCalc, but need to submit them in a standard Excell template). As for Word, there are occasional formatting glitches, but it seems to work better than most import filters. I use it frequently for converting Word documents to HTML or PDF format - the results aren't as nice as what you'd get with output from, say, LyX, but then LyX (or rather wv) has problems importing some Word documents, and it will also alter the layout radically (by improving it radically) which you may not always want. So yes, if you want a good all-round office suite with MS compatibility, OO is the best choice from the Open Source alternatives. OTOH, if you want to write beautifully typeset documents with a minimum of fuss, I'd still recommend LyX, unless you have very complex or idiosyncratic layout requirements. Sir Robin -- Do unto others what you would like others to do unto you. And have fun doing it. - Linus Torvalds Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent University Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Running kppp as root- is it a problem?
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 7:29 pm, PBone wrote: I used to run kppp as a user to access my dial-up modem without any problems. After installing a LAN card I found that I when I ran kppp as user the connection would be made but the browser and email would not work. Mandrake control centre insisted that I was not connected to the internet. I worked around the problem by creating a new profile and using Mandrake control centre to access the internet. The only problem now is that kppp runs as root. 1. Is this a security problem 2. How can I go back to using kppp as user? I cannot tell you how to run kpp as a user. But I can tell you how to run the Mandrake Dialler net_monitor as a user as described here. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/dialup.html derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] copying audio cd on the fly
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 04:57, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: Is there any way to make a direct copy of an audio CD on the fly? Either from the command line or (preferably) a GUI program. Thanks, There's heaps of rippers for linux - GRip is one - then there are heaps more - both GUI and commandline. Sites to check for cool stuff (rippers included): http://www.betanews.com http://www.icewalk.com http://www.gnome.org http://apps.kde.com http://www.linuxapps.com http://freshmeat.net http://sourceforge.net If you can't find a ripper, I'd like to sell ya some beach side property near Alice Springs... -- Thu Nov 21 07:25:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' |linux user:267497 If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker to come along would destroy civilization. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is a restart necessary?
In reply to Anne's mail, d.d. Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:17:59 +: If I make alterations to fstab, do I need to reboot, or can I cause it to be read some other way? Depends on the alterations. Usually logging all users out and as root doing a mount -a will suffice. Found this in man mount: (i) The command mount -a [-t type] [-O optlist] (usually given in a bootscript) causes all file systems mentioned in fstab (of the proper type and/or having or not having the proper options) to be mounted as indicated, except for those whose line contains the noauto keyword. Paul -- Every man in the world is better than someone else. And not as good as someone else. -William Saroyan http://nlpagan.net-Linux Mandrake 8.2 - Sylpheed 0.8.6 Help Microsoft combat software piracy: give Linux to a friend today! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] copying audio cd on the fly
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: Is there any way to make a direct copy of an audio CD on the fly? Either from the command line or (preferably) a GUI program. Thanks, K3b will do it. It is a *really* nice writer RPM available from Texstar. http://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/rpms/ derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KOffice doubts
Anne Wilson wrote: Although the various elements of KOffice do seem quite good, I am seriously concerned that there is little or no ability to communicate with other programs. About a week ago John raised the question of a KOffice spreadsheet, which he neede to try in another format because it was getting to big for KOffice. It seems to me a serious flaw that any office package does not attempt to read/write other major formats. I may resent having to use MSOffice formats, but at least they can be used for moving data between applications, as did the ability that most windows spreadsheet programs had of saving an early Lotus 1-2-3 format. It is not, I think, adequate to simply say that you can save a csv file. Useful they may be when you're in a corner, but reformatting everything and so on is a huge job. There is much that is good in KOffice, but if they insist on a M$-like proprietary format to the exclusion of all else they will damage their product. My 2p-worth, anyway. I agree with most of this, except that they don't use a proprietary format - it's an open, XML-based format. Most other apps don't have import filters for it (probably because so few people use KOffice) but writing one wouldn't be hard. Word .doc - now _that's_ a proprietary format! Sir Robin -- Do unto others what you would like others to do unto you. And have fun doing it. - Linus Torvalds Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent University Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Openoffice and .doc files
Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi, Quick question...LM 9.0 and OO were a fresh install. I received an email with a .doc extension but OO won't open it under any MS (or other) extension label. I get pages of codes but at the top is the statement'This file must be converted using Binhex 4.0' Any thoughts? There is nothing on this in the OO mailing list archive. Looks like the attachment is broken. Could be the original file, could be your mail client (Netscape sometimes used to glob the attachment and the message, which made binary files unreadable - I remember spending ages with a hex editor trying to undo this). Try opening a Word doc in OO. If it opens OK, send it to yourself as an attachment, then try opening it again. If it doesn't open now, the problem is your mail client. If it opens OK, the problem is at the other end. Sir Robin -- Do unto others what you would like others to do unto you. And have fun doing it. - Linus Torvalds Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent University Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KOffice doubts
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 8:50 pm, Robin Turner wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Although the various elements of KOffice do seem quite good, I am seriously concerned that there is little or no ability to communicate with other programs. About a week ago John raised the question of a KOffice spreadsheet, which he neede to try in another format because it was getting to big for KOffice. It seems to me a serious flaw that any office package does not attempt to read/write other major formats. I may resent having to use MSOffice formats, but at least they can be used for moving data between applications, as did the ability that most windows spreadsheet programs had of saving an early Lotus 1-2-3 format. It is not, I think, adequate to simply say that you can save a csv file. Useful they may be when you're in a corner, but reformatting everything and so on is a huge job. There is much that is good in KOffice, but if they insist on a M$-like proprietary format to the exclusion of all else they will damage their product. My 2p-worth, anyway. I agree with most of this, except that they don't use a proprietary format - it's an open, XML-based format. Most other apps don't have import filters for it (probably because so few people use KOffice) but writing one wouldn't be hard. Word .doc - now _that's_ a proprietary format! I stand corrected. However, the point I was making was that interoperability is vitally important for many people. With KWord being halfway between a word processor and a desk top publisher app. it is very useful. I realise that importing and exporting complex documents is tricky, but I would hate to see all the good work done on this product going down the pan because people ignore it due to lack of filters. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 'Save All Attachments' in KMail?
I've googled and come up with nothing... I have collected several attachments in a folder that's getting pretty big. I'd like to save all the attachments to a directory and then empty the mail folder. Any ideas? Thanks, Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 'Always on Top' in Gnome?
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 06:55, Barry Michels wrote: Am I wrong in the assumption that there's no such concept in Gnome? No windows have that option and the few apps that have their own 'on top' function don't work. (XMMS comes to mind) Barry Because Gnome2 is the desktop and MetaCity(MegaShitty) is the window manager, there is alot of functionality that has disappeared from the Gnome environment. You can change to a different window manager - like good old Sawfish - which allows you to have complete control over window behavior. Have you gone through the MetaCity settings as well as the Gnome Control Panel to double check on your efforts? (Not that it will allow you too much deviation from what they've thrown together - hence my move back to Gnome 1.4.8 and Sawfish as my window manager...) -- Thu Nov 21 07:25:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' |linux user:267497 If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker to come along would destroy civilization. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] copying audio cd on the fly
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 3:33 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: Is there any way to make a direct copy of an audio CD on the fly? Either from the command line or (preferably) a GUI program. Thanks, K3b will do it. It is a *really* nice writer RPM available from Texstar. http://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/linux/distri butions/mandrake/9.0/rpms/ derek I have k3b installed and when I run it from a command line I get this error: k3b: undefined symbol: static_QUType_varptr. If I run the setup program I get this: k3bsetup: undefined symbol: _ZN18QMetaObjectCleanUpC1EPKcPFP11QMetaObjectvE That's it, the program won't launch at all... So, if you can help that would be great! Thanks, -- Jonathan Dlouhy Wednesday, November 20, 2002 Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. Registered Linux user #264482 Powered by Mandrake Linux 9 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
SV: [newbie] Is a restart necessary?
If I make alterations to fstab, do I need to reboot, or can I cause it to be read some other way? You don't need to reboot, when you try to mount each time it will read /etc/fstab at that time /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No battery message with Gkrellm/wmapm/wmapci
[snip] Your laptop's probably using acpi instead of apm, so you have to compile latest mandrake kernel (acpi and swsusp prepatched) 2.4.19-19mdk with acpi support and try again (if you haven't already done so) ;) - -- sorry to interfere .. but how can I check if my laptop uses acpi or apm? Fab Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another OT...Sort Of
I didn't think of Linuxconf! Though, I doubt it will matter much in this case. :-( It's not that I am excited about using Xconfigurator. I think it is a better non-graphical tool for targeting video problems in X than xf86config is. xf86config makes me go through setting that I don't need to concern myself with to resolve a video problem. It introduces variables that aren't important when video won't work. That's because it was designed to be 'the' tool for setting up X-wondows without graphics. Its simplicity makes doing a change a pain. Every time a choice bombs out, I have to start over, configure the mouse, the keyboard, the language, ad nauseum! Xconfigurator allows me to focus in on the area that is giving me trouble and bounce in and out of video, color depth, monitor choice, freq, etc. If this was MDK, I wouldn't be so sour, would I? ;-) I did finally get Xconfigurator on. It was messy, but it worked. Unfortunately, no joy. The cards I have left in my arsenal are all Linux supported, but not by RH 8.0. Their insistence to limit you only to XFree86 4.2.0 has locked out of the use of many cards older cards that are still supported by Linux, in general. Another healthy plug for Mandrake, but a bit of a tangle for me. Argh... :- . I really was hoping for a miracle from you Stephen. :-) T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SV: [newbie] Is a restart necessary?
go to a terminal sheel and type mount -a this will force linux to reread the fstab and remount everything On Wednesday 20 November 2002 04:36 pm, Anders Lind wrote: If I make alterations to fstab, do I need to reboot, or can I cause it to be read some other way? You don't need to reboot, when you try to mount each time it will read /etc/fstab at that time /Anders -- Luke Vandervort Linux, because rebooting is for adding new hardware ... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
Robin Turner wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: But anyway, how do you feel about it, is it all there , does the spreadsheet work as well as excell, what about the word processor, does it work as well as kword. Give me expreiences please,your likes and dislikes, how it works,what are the quirky things, does it import files from other spreadsheets easily. Recently I imported a kspread file as a commer seperated list into gnumeric, and found out the hard way that all you get is a big list of text based numbers, no formatting and more importantly no formulars, and that can be time consuming and finickety redoing it all over again when you have a large display to go over. My experience is that it works fine in all important respects. I can't say if it works as well as KWord, since I gave up on that particular app a few years back. No problems importing from Excell or exporting to it (which is very important for me, as I keep student grades in OOCalc, but need to submit them in a standard Excell template). As for Word, there are occasional formatting glitches, but it seems to work better than most import filters. I use it frequently for converting Word documents to HTML or PDF format - the results aren't as nice as what you'd get with output from, say, LyX, but then LyX (or rather wv) has problems importing some Word documents, and it will also alter the layout radically (by improving it radically) which you may not always want. So yes, if you want a good all-round office suite with MS compatibility, OO is the best choice from the Open Source alternatives. OTOH, if you want to write beautifully typeset documents with a minimum of fuss, I'd still recommend LyX, unless you have very complex or idiosyncratic layout requirements. Sir Robin That is helpful. I leave lyx and klyx to latec experts , and since I'm not one, I stand no chance of creating my own templates. However , just playing around with OOword a bit this afternoon, one thing that struck me about it, I didn't seem able to import pictures, like I can in kword, where one could say one is into desktop publishing, and I certainly enjoy creating my own multifacited layout montages for home pics. As I say I've only looked at it briefly so I could be dead wrong here but it seems to me OOword is capable but not as far reaching as say kword is today. On the otherhand OOcalc which surely ought to of been called OOspreadsheet, does seem a quite advance app of it's type, as I say I have not done much with it and so I cannot tell how it compares with excell for capability but as far as I can tell it is fully as useable as kspread and far far leaner and faster on the loading and saving stakes than kspread. I don't know whether OOcalc can do those fancy folding column jobs that excell can do, you know where you can set up a sort of spreadsheet within a spreadsheet to take care of some sub calculation reqirement,that you don't particularly want shown on the front sheet. How does OOcalc compare with excell all round ? Anyone with loads of experience with both ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] radeon 7000 and mandrake 9
Hello All I just installed mandrake 9 on my work computer, and can't seem to resolve the video card issue. It is a pci version of the radeon 7000 32 meg. Has anyone run into similar problems? If so, what was the magic cure or is there one? Any help would be appreciated. Sean Ignorance should be painful. Registered Linux user #271218 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No battery message with Gkrellm/wmapm/wmapci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dimecres 20 Novembre 2002 21:18, en Fabrice Mous va escriure: Your laptop's probably using acpi instead of apm, so you have to compile latest mandrake kernel (acpi and swsusp prepatched) 2.4.19-19mdk with acpi support and try again (if you haven't already done so) ;) - -- sorry to interfere .. but how can I check if my laptop uses acpi or apm? If it doesn't use apm, then apmd service won't run. I know there are some laptops supporting both apm and acpi also... - -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain AOL quini2k, ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE93BKsok8j9RhtetwRAvzGAJ42/ep6yAjALc00yu7tRgtg1z6hugCcDzPz 9xaJ/uFekfL/4o9F+dCIPWk= =i4ao -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] copying audio cd on the fly
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 08:23, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: I have k3b installed and when I run it from a command line I get this error: k3b: undefined symbol: static_QUType_varptr. If I run the setup program I get this: k3bsetup: undefined symbol: _ZN18QMetaObjectCleanUpC1EPKcPFP11QMetaObjectvE That's it, the program won't launch at all... So, if you can help that would be great! Thanks, That sounds like it's a QT library fault - unresolved symbol. Have you checked out that your /etc/ld.so.conf is setup properly? As well, you might want to make sure that QT is installed properly... -- Thu Nov 21 09:10:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' |linux user:267497 On the other hand, the TCP camp also has a phrase for OSI people. There are lots of phrases. My favorite is `nitwit' -- and the rationale is the Internet philosophy has always been you have extremely bright, non-partisan researchers look at a topic, do world-class research, do several competing implementations, have a bake-off, determine what works best, write it down and make that the standard. The OSI view is entirely opposite. You take written contributions from a much larger community, you put the contributions in a room of committee people with, quite honestly, vast political differences and all with their own political axes to grind, and four years later you get something out, usually without it ever having been implemented once. So the Internet perspective is implement it, make it work well, then write it down, whereas the OSI perspective is to agree on it, write it down, circulate it a lot and now we'll see if anyone can implement it after it's an international standard and every vendor in the world is committed to it. One of those processes is backwards, and I don't think it takes a Lucasian professor of physics at Oxford to figure out which. -- Marshall Rose, The Pied Piper of OSI Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SV: [newbie] Is a restart necessary?
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 08:34, Luke Vandervort wrote: go to a terminal sheel and type mount -a this will force linux to reread the fstab and remount everything Sheel? Is this a new feature thats undocumented? Some package that I forgot to install? Wow...going to have to search for a terminal sheel...!!! (g) -- Thu Nov 21 09:15:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' |linux user:267497 Seed me, Seymour -- a random number generator meets the big green mother from outer space Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
