[newbie-it] archivio ml
Ciao a tutti!! Scusate se ripeto una domanda che ho già fatto tempo fa ma .ho perso l'indirizzo!!! Chi mi dice l'indirizzo dell'archivio di questa ml?Grazie!
Re: [newbie-it] archivio ml
At 10.40 08/02/2003 +0100, you wrote: Ciao a tutti!! Scusate se ripeto una domanda che ho già fatto tempo fa ma .ho perso l'indirizzo!!! Chi mi dice l'indirizzo dell'archivio di questa ml?Grazie! Appena postato da syd... :) http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie-it@linux-mandrake.com/ Ciao Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 9.0 Problemi con lettore cdrom
* Andrea Cecagallina wrote: Occhio Andrea che questa tua ultima ti e' partita in html e molti (io ad esempio) potrebbero aver impostato il loro MUA per non leggerti. -- syd Slackware 8.1 * k 2.4.18 - msg11344/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 9.0 Problemi con lettore cdrom
At 19.15 07/02/2003 +0100, you wrote: Ho installato Mandrake 9.0 e tutto va bene... si fa oer dire, perchè non funziona il lettore cdrom e il masterizzatore: a volte non mi da addirittura accesso dicendo che non ho i permessi ( anche come root ), altre volte mi da accesso ma non vede nulla dentro ( ossia si apre la finestra ma dentro non c'è nessun file!!?? ). Peccato!! Perchè il resto funzione tutto benissimo e stavo realmente pensando di fare il passo e mandare a quel paese Windows... Qualcuno ha avuto lo stesso problema e sa darmi aiuto? Grazie e saluti Walter Guarda... Io aveo lo stesso problema e l'ho risolto grazie ad un consiglio di un ragazzo del quale non ricordo il nome (accidenti alla mia memoria...) Hai già provato ad invertire master e slave? A me questo semplice passaggio ha riolto tutti i problemi Anzi Ho ritrovato il messaggio. La persona (che ringrazio ancora) è Enrico Piccininni che mi scrisse: Per quello che so (qualcuno potrebbe ridere,visto che solo fino a 5 gg fa ero in braghe di tela su cose molto più semplici), dalle sigle che sono state attribuite, hai il lettore come slave su IDE1 e il masterizzatore come master. Ho letto in diverse recensioni che sarebbe meglio, anzitutto mettere masterizzatore e lettore su IDE2 per non rallentare le operazioni che conivolgono l'hard-disk. Io partirei da lì. Sicuramente migliori la situazione. Dopodichè facci sapere come evolve la situazione. A me, come ti dicevo, ha risolto il problema. Prima manco riuscivo a fare il boot da Cd Fammi sapere se serve altro... Andrea
[newbie-it] OpenGL
Ciao. Ho bisogno di utilizzare OpenGL per un progetto per l'università. Problema: non sono ancora riuscita a compilare uno stupido programmino! Credo di aver installato tutto: Mesa-4.0.1-4mdk Mesa-demos-4.0.1-4mdk libMesaglut3-4.0.1-4mdk libMesaGLU1-4.0.1-4mdk libMesaGLU1-devel-4.0.1-4mdk libMesaglut3-devel-4.0.1-4mdk libMesaGL1-4.0.1-4mdk Ho provato a installare le glut da rpm (rpm per RedHat, per Mandrake non c'era), ma mi dà questo errore: error: failed dependencies: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 is needed by glut-3.7-8 Questa libreria ce l'ho in /usr/X11R6/lib/, così ho creato un link simbolico in /usr/lib alla libreria. Però continua a darmi lo stesso errore, anche se lancio rpm con --force o --nodeps. Così mi sono arresa, ho scaricato il tarball, l'ho scompattato e ho eseguito tutte le istruzioni per installarlo. Risultato, se provo a compilare un semplice file mi ritrovo con questi errori: [spirite@atropo OpenGL]$ gcc 01_simple.c /tmp/ccI8ANJl.o: In function `display': /tmp/ccI8ANJl.o(.text+0xf): undefined reference to `glClearColor' /tmp/ccI8ANJl.o(.text+0x1f): undefined reference to `glClear' /tmp/ccI8ANJl.o(.text+0x39): undefined reference to `glColor3f' /tmp/ccI8ANJl.o(.text+0x49): undefined reference to `glMatrixMode' /tmp/ccI8ANJl.o(.text+0x51): undefined reference to `glLoadIdentity' /tmp/ccI8ANJl.o(.text+0x80): undefined reference to `glOrtho' /tmp/ccI8ANJl.o(.text+0x8d): undefined reference to `glBegin' .. Quale può essere il problema? Ho anche controllato che nei file inclusi esistano queste funzioni. Ad esempio glClear lo trovo nel file gl.h (che è incluso): GLAPI void GLAPIENTRY glClear( GLbitfield mask ); Effettivamente non c'è altro codice... Boh... Qualcuno sa aiutarmi? Grazie, Chiara -- Faccio dell'Ombra il mio sudario...
[newbie-it] Linux Pratico
salve, sapete qual'e l'ultimo numero uscito di Linux Pratico? = Luigi Beltramini [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://digilander.iol.it/citazioni
Re: [newbie-it] Linux Pratico
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Luigi wrote: salve, sapete qual'e l'ultimo numero uscito di Linux Pratico? Il numero 9. Bye, Chiara -- Morire per una religione è più semplice che viverla con pienezza. (J. L. Borges)
Re: [newbie-it] Suggerimenti: installazione e pacchetti
- Original Message - From: Andrea Celli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Non è un problema di distribuzione, anche se Mandrake è pensata per ambienti molto grafici. Qualunque distro tu decida di provare, - metti molta swap, minimo 48M - non usare kde o gnome, ma un window-manager leggero es. Icewm sceglietene uno in http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ - scordati openoffice pesantissimo e anche koffice (leggero solo se lanciato da kde, che a sua volta è pesante), ma guarda Abiword+gnumeric o siag Ancora un chiarimento, forse non ho afferrato bene cosa intendevi dirmi. Sono andato a cercare gli applicativi office che mi hai suggerito, e ho notato che abiword e gnumeric fanno parte di gnome office. gnome office + icewm = ok gnome office + gnome = ?? Dove trovo una classifica che mi indici quali sono i window-manager più leggeri e quelli più pesanti per una determinata macchina? Grazie ancora e a presto Bye Alessandro
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 9.0 Problemi con lettore cdrom
-- Messaggio originale -- Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 11:15:07 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrea Cecagallina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 9.0 Problemi con lettore cdrom Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 19.15 07/02/2003 +0100, you wrote: Ho installato Mandrake 9.0 e tutto va bene... si fa oer dire, perchè non funziona il lettore cdrom e il masterizzatore: a volte non mi da addirittura accesso dicendo che non ho i permessi ( anche come root ), altre volte mi da accesso ma non vede nulla dentro ( ossia si apre la finestra ma dentro non c'è nessun file!!?? ). Peccato!! Perchè il resto funzione tutto benissimo e stavo realmente pensando di fare il passo e mandare a quel paese Windows... Qualcuno ha avuto lo stesso problema e sa darmi aiuto? Grazie e saluti Walter Guarda... Io aveo lo stesso problema e l'ho risolto grazie ad un consiglio di un ragazzo del quale non ricordo il nome (accidenti alla mia memoria...) Hai già provato ad invertire master e slave? A me questo semplice passaggio ha riolto tutti i problemi Anzi Ho ritrovato il messaggio. La persona (che ringrazio ancora) è Enrico Piccininni che mi scrisse: Per quello che so (qualcuno potrebbe ridere,visto che solo fino a 5 gg fa ero in braghe di tela su cose molto più semplici), dalle sigle che sono state attribuite, hai il lettore come slave su IDE1 e il masterizzatore come master. Ho letto in diverse recensioni che sarebbe meglio, anzitutto mettere masterizzatore e lettore su IDE2 per non rallentare le operazioni che conivolgono l'hard-disk. Io partirei da lì. Sicuramente migliori la situazione. Dopodichè facci sapere come evolve la situazione. A me, come ti dicevo, ha risolto il problema. Prima manco riuscivo a fare il boot da Cd Fammi sapere se serve altro... Andrea Come si fa??? ;-) Scusa ma io sono un po' digiuno... Se puoi aiutarmi sarò un Pinguino felice, se poi non ci riesco mando alle ortiche tutto per l'ennesima volta e continuo con Windazzo, anche se é contro la mia genia Grazie e saluti Walter
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 9.0 Problemi con lettore cdrom
Spero proprio che tu abbia ragione Perchè nei HOWTO ci ho già guardato ma non ho capito o trovato un ca..o, scusa il termine!!! Chiesi allo ZioBudda... mi ha risposto in termini così ermetici che ho capito ancora di meno... ma cavolo, se dico che sono un principiante, e tu sai come risolvere i miei problemi ( mi riferisco a ZioBudda ), dimmelo chiaramente passo, passo in modo che per me sia comprensibile e ... domani io posso aiutare un altro!!! Semplice no?. Comunque ti ringrazio delle tue dritte syd ;-) Un salutone Walter -- Messaggio originale -- Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:54:34 + From: syd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 9.0 Problemi con lettore cdrom Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * wseccaf wrote: Ho installato Mandrake 9.0 e tutto va bene... si fa oer dire, perchè non funziona il lettore cdrom e il masterizzatore: a volte non mi da addirittura accesso dicendo che non ho i permessi ( anche come root ), altre volte mi da accesso ma non vede nulla dentro ( ossia si apre la finestra ma dentro non c'è nessun file!!?? ). Qualcuno ha avuto lo stesso problema e sa darmi aiuto? Nell'archivio di questa lista trovi decine e decine di post dedicati alla risoluzione del tuo problema; questo e' il link http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie-it@linux-mandrake.com/ Se poi vuoi fare le cose da solo (si impara tantissimo): - Per iniziare: Appunti d'informatica libera che trovi in rete (vai sull'_indice analitico_ e cerca _masterizzatore_); magari gli Appunti li hai gia'in un dischetto di qualche rivista - Per iniziare, approfondire e fare le cose per bene: CD-Writing HOWTO che trovi anche in versione italiana e credo che la la tua distro lo installi di default. Se non lo hai lo puoi trovare gia'tradotto su pluto: http://ildp.pluto.linux.it/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html - Per confrontare con chi ne sa piu' di te e me ;-): QuickEasy Configuration HOWTO di mrshark alias Antonio Fragola. Questo il link dritto dritto alla pagina che ti serve: http://www.mrshark.it/qechowto/masterizzazione.html Se non ti basta..behh.. www.google.it _forse_ ti puo' aiutare ;-)) Peccato!! Perchè il resto funzione tutto benissimo e stavo realmente pensando di fare il passo e mandare a quel paese Windows... Vedrai che ti divertirai e il _grande_ passo lo farai in scioltezza ;-) -- syd LU 285930 * LM 167646 - Allegato: Allegato
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 9.0 Problemi con lettore cdrom
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come si fa??? ;-) Scusa ma io sono un po' digiuno... Se puoi aiutarmi sarò un Pinguino felice, se poi non ci riesco mando alle ortiche tutto per l'ennesima volta e continuo con Windazzo, anche se é contro la mia genia Segui il consiglio di Fabio: posta in lista il file /etc/lilo.conf ed anche il file /etc/fstab. Dai che non ti lasciamo solo ;-) -- syd LU 285930 * LM 167646 - msg11352/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie-it] Mandrake Update - skip automatico
Ciao a tutti, ho scaricato e installato la 9.0 qualche giorno fa e devo dire che mi piace. Il mio problema riguarda Mandrake Update: da quanto ho notato c'e' un sacco di aggiornamenti da scaricare e cio' richiede tempo anche con una connesione via cavo (simile all'ADSL); avevo pensato di scaricare i pacchetti durante la notte, pero' il problema e' che di tanto in tanto Mandrake Update ha qualche problema con qualche pacchetto e si blocca mostrandomi una finestrella di dialogo per notificarmi del problema ed ovviamente non va avanti a scaricare gli altri pacchetti finche' non gli clicco su OK. Volevo sapere se c'e' qualche modo per dire a Mandrake Update che quando ha problemi con qualche pacchetto, lo lasci stare e vada avanti. Grazie in anticipo. Di Fresco Marco
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake Update - skip automatico
Alle 23:39, sabato 8 febbraio 2003, Di Fresco Marco ha scritto in merito a [newbie-it] Mandrake Update - skip automatico Volevo sapere se c'e' qualche modo per dire a Mandrake Update che quando ha problemi con qualche pacchetto, lo lasci stare e vada avanti. Non ho mai utilizzato il Mandrake Update,da quanto si sente in lista,non funziona/funzionava molto benel'unico consiglio che ti posso dare,è di scaricarti i paketti in ftp o http (http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/updates.php?dis=9.0 questo è un esempio) da un qualunque mirror.lo lasci scaricare tutta la notte, e il giorno dopo cambi l'urll del Mandrake Update dandogli il paht in cui hai scaricato gli rpm. Credo che cosi possa andare senza intoppi... Ciao , Tom
RE: [newbie-it] Mandrake Update - skip automatico
Non ho mai utilizzato il Mandrake Update,da quanto si sente in lista,non funziona/funzionava molto benel'unico consiglio che ti posso dare,è di scaricarti i paketti in ftp o http (http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/updates.php?dis=9.0 questo è un esempio) da un qualunque mirror.lo lasci scaricare tutta la notte, e il giorno dopo cambi l'urll del Mandrake Update dandogli il paht in cui hai scaricato gli rpm. Credo che cosi possa andare senza intoppi... Ok, stanotte provo. Grazie del consiglio. Di Fresco Marco ICQ #51985192 |--| | Spock (Court Martial - TOS): If I let go a hammer on a planet having a | | positive gravity, I need not see it fall to know that it has, in fact, | | fallen. || |--|
Re: [newbie] Complete newbie,trouble trying to install mandrake 8.2 on a Mac G-4
On 2/7/03 14:15, cowinacape [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/03 13:48, Benjamin Pflugmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not too familiar with Mac usage. That said, simply burning should be enough. There shouldn't anything special to be aware of. Hm. Are you sure that you got the right images for Macs (and not accidently those for PC or whatever)? Do you still have the URLs from where you got the images? HTH, Benjamin. Sorry Benjamin, I meant to forward this back to the list, and not to you personally. I d/loaded the images from http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftpurl.php3(from the Mandrake Linux 8.2 ISO image for PPC. Section. After some reading around, I have found that I am not the only person to have trouble with these iso formated images, after checking the Roxio (Toast) web site, there is literally hundreds of queries about how to handle these iso formated images, and I have yet to find any type of answer (most of the question I have come across on Roxio's forums, deal with different versions of Linux builds all released to iso images. So far I have gone through 8 disks (CD's) and have absolutely nothing to show for it, other than 8 coasters. Mounting the iso then burning that, doesn't work, simply trying to burn the d/loaded iso, through toast as an iso doesn't work, mountign the image than taking all the files fromt he image, and burning that as an iso or mac/pc hybird doesn't seem to work either. Which leads me to why I posted here, there has to be soemone ( I hope : ) that is on a mac, and has figured out how to handle these images to build a disk that is bootable so that Mandrake can be installed. Thanks Kindly Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HTML e-mail client
Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
In reply to Gil's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:58:30 +0200: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Evolution should be what you look for. Paul -- Some Windows were made to be broken. http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:04, Paul wrote: In reply to Gil's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:58:30 +0200: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Evolution should be what you look for. Paul Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gil Katz Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:04, Paul wrote: In reply to Gil's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:58:30 +0200: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Evolution should be what you look for. Paul Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil What you need is another mail account :-) Adolfo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How long to download 9.0
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 03:06 pm, Robert wrote: How long will take approximately to download LM 9.0 using a DSL connection? I am well aware that each service and line could vary a bit, but just an approximate time, please. Hello, There are 3 CDs (unless you're getting the pirated full 7 CD set :-) ). I only have 2 CDs, but that's because I got it on magazine cover discs. Time needed for first 2 CDs, per CD: 700 * 1024 * 8 / download speed. Remember ISPs report in kilobits, not kilobytes. So for my 56kb dialup: 700 * 1024 * 8 / 56 = ~ 30 hours each For the 450mb, 24 hours. So 75 hours all up on 56kb. 128kb = 33 hours 256kb = 16 hours 512kb = 8 hours 100MB: 2 minutes :-) Regards, _nasturtium PS: OK, so a lot of people have responded. But you won't receive much from me now that I'm back to school. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
In reply to Adolfo's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 05:30:30 -0400: Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil What you need is another mail account :-) *grin* Hotmail is a Micro$osft proprietary 'protocol' as far as I know. I have not heard about any linux-based e-mail program that has access to such protocol. Best shot from Linux, to my knowledge, would be the cross-over plugin, so you can run LookOut with that. Good luck. Paul -- Some Windows were made to be broken. http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How long to download 9.0
A little over an hour per cd. Dale Huckeby On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Robert wrote: How long will take approximately to download LM 9.0 using a DSL connection? I am well aware that each service and line could vary a bit, but just an approximate time, please. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] new to list////gamming on linux
On Friday 07 February 2003 10:25 pm, David Jones wrote: First off hi to everyone second offi need to run Diablo 2 Lod On Linux Mandrake 9.0 i have wine installed ... i think and now donot know where to start with this I am a total newbie to linux...well not totaly i do know a little but never used the command line tools and etc but i am a fast learner lol so in end i need help please can someone help me with this Thank you David Jones Hi David. I've got Diablo2 - Lord of Destruction working fine here under Mandrake v9.0. Goto: http://www.transgaming.com Subscribe for 3 months (not expensive) - download the latest RPM of WineX (Wine on steroids). (you can also download a free version that you have to build, but since you're a newbie - this would be easier). Read the docs. Install D2/LOD and enjoy. :-) Send more messages if you require further assistance - plenty of people here just dying to help. grin -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ISO Downloads
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:20:35 -0500 Craig Deline Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just downloaded Mandrake 9 ISO's from mirror.aca.oakland.edu The first image, Mandrake90-cd1-inst.i586.iso, after I burn it to a CD (Using Nero 5.5), does not boot, and I cannot see any files on it in windows as I can on the other two (Disc's 23). I am using Nero 5.5 with a Philips 8x4x32 CDRW Drive (CD4800 I think). I tried booting on my laptop's CD-ROM drive (QSR SDR-081 DVD ROM) and my desktop's (Creative DVD-ROM DVD1241E) to no avail. My computers are set in the BIOS to boot from CD-ROM first. Any suggestions? Besides downloading from another server? Thanx craig did you check the md5sum to ensure your download was successful/not corrupted? there are md5 sum programs for windows and the md5 sum should be listed on the mirror. HTH Jerry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] I can't install anything !!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 07 February 2003 09:44 pm, civileme wrote: 3. rpm -ivh (the directory and name of the rpm--note that TAB causes completion of the name at each branch of the path) If you run into dependency problems, get the rpms to satisfy the dependencies discovered. If you run into conflicts, stop. Doing urpmi package.rpm will try to install the package in question and all the needed packages from the resources defined or it will fail, but it is better than plain rpm. This may help to set up urpmi resources: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php Thanks - -- Pupeno: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pupeno.com/~pupeno - --- Help the hungry children of Argentina, please go to (and make it your homepage): http://www.porloschicos.com/servlet/PorLosChicos?comando=donar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+RTWHLr8z5XzmSDQRAhQvAJ9N3Dawh/Ko3V+uPROFKlx+mKdy3ACgxM7R 0EE3haY4t8Ab8e2QtJ+yLy8= =hXW2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 February 2003 04:15 am, Gil Katz wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:04, Paul wrote: In reply to Gil's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:58:30 +0200: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Evolution should be what you look for. Paul Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil Maybe this is usefull for you then: http://dot.kde.org/1035822985/1035828921/1035906330/ KMail can already handle hotmail http mail via gotmail (http://freshmeat.net/projects/gotmail/). Simply fetch your mail from your hotmail account with gotmail, save it in a local mbox-style mailbox (Warning: Don't save it in ~/Mail !) and then fetch the messages from this mailbox with KMail. You can even configure gotmail as precommand for a local account in KMail so that in order to fetch new mail from your hotmail account all you have to do is press the Check Mail button in KMail. Of course you can also enable interval checking for your hotmail account. That's the beauty of Unix. Don't reinvent the wheel a thousand times but use the tools that already exist. Regard, Ingo - From http://dot.kde.org/1035822985/1035828921/1035906330/ Gotmail is a utility to non-interactively download email from a Hotmail account. It can download messages from all folders, messages from certain folders, or new messages only. There are options to delete downloaded messages or mark them as read. Gotmail can forward messages to other email addresses or save them as local mbox-style mailboxes. I don't see why this wouldn't work in any other mail client that can read mailboxes althout I really like KMail and the precommand that really helps there may not be available in other clients. If you want KMail to look like outlook, hold your breath and wait for kde 3.2, the answer is Kontact: http://www.kontact.org http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact1.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact2.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact3.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact4.png for more information of what's going on in 3.2 related to PIM: http://dot.kde.org/1043346607/ Hope it helped. Anyway, the get a new account advice is still a good advice. - -- Pupeno: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pupeno.com/~pupeno - --- Help the hungry children of Argentina, please go to (and make it your homepage): http://www.porloschicos.com/servlet/PorLosChicos?comando=donar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+RTVLLr8z5XzmSDQRAhEYAJ9c+U/GjDmr5uSfzNbjtNZo2I9xbwCeLfqh MXNly2yN26ckfkGpP2lgDgs= =AjJE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Dual boot: pre-setup question
G'day all, Because of weight restrictions in my baggage allowance when I recently moved from Australia to Thailand, I was forced to sell off my old computers and bits etc - so now I don't have the luxury of having a whole computer I can just stick Linux on and it won't matter if I break it:) But I want to succeed, ultimately, so I'll take a deep breath and try for a dual boot system... I just built a new system last night, [It's running Win2Kpro] with a 40G hard drive I was thinking of splitting in halves with Partition Magic, and I've got an 80G HDD I brought with me from Australia that has all my backing tracks etc in wav files an MP3s, and CoolEditPro sessions etc. I'd like some help, please, to avoid any possible gotcha's to get this to work - I'm not looking for detailed point by point, just the major steps and in which order to do them - lets see how far I get :)) * If I split the 40G into two 20G partitions, how can I install Mandrake on the other half without it taking over the whole drive? * How can I make Mandrake see the files on the other half of the 40G, as well as the 80G? * oh, and btw will Win2K be able to see the Linux files too? Thanks in advance for the guidance... -- Merlin Zener piano and synthesizer Pattaya, Thailand. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] my bookmarks for Linux, and more
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Wideman Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2003 16:55 To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] my bookmarks for Linux, and more I am sending it as an attachementso you can save it. If you want it another way I will try to do it before it is asked. Rob opened. looked. saved. thanks. :) -- Merlin Zener piano and synthesizer Pattaya, Thailand. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Searching 101
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Wideman Sent: Friday, 7 February 2003 20:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Searching 101 Top 10 what? HOWTO sites for linux? I just sent a hefty email under the same thread that has like 50 of them in it. Rob G'day Rob, yes, I got it - thanks a lot. There seems to be some lag between me sending and the list getting messages, partly caused by my lack of even a phone line here, never mind a dialup or DSL like I'm used to; I'm reduced to doing a daily run to a net cafe with this thinkpad to download/upload. Then there's the confirm process I have to do from the sympa@... sometimes - I haven't worked out why it only asks me sometimes yet. -- Merlin Zener piano and synthesizer Pattaya, Thailand. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual boot: pre-setup question
Merlin; Having done exactly what you want to do hundreds of times for clients, I can give you this advice. First, Set up an 8 or 10 Gb partition for Win2K. Even at 8 Gb's you're using a lot! Unless you plan on installing every single application known to man, 8 Gigs is plenty! Use the same amount for Linux. Then use the remaining space on the drive to store all your data, ie; documents, mp3's, DVX, etc. Format the last section as FAT32, and both O/S'es will see it. Try for something like this; 1) 8 Gigs for Win2K - NTFS 2) 8 Gigs for Mandrake - which get's split into 3 basic partitions during a basic install - /, swap, and home. 3) remaining 24 Gigs (approximately), formatted as FAT32 4) When you're naming the partitions - whether you're in Windows or Linux, name the last partition as Archive (in Win2K) and /Archive in Linux. 5) Once you have Win2K setup with the username you prefer, right-click the My Documents folder on your desktop, and select move. Then re-Map it to your Archive partition, making sure that you have a My Documents folder waiting there. 6) from that point on you can tell your office suites, and download managers, etc. to use Archive as your data storage point, and they will always use it by default. 7) You can also do the exact same procedure in Linux. 8) Use the Win2K - NTFS partition (C:\) to install applications, Games, etc., but store ALL your data on Archive. Both O/S'es will have no problem accessing your data, documents, MP3's, etc., and you'll still have a whack of room left on your 80 Gig drive as well. Install Win2K first, and let Mandrake provide the boot manager - Grub or Lilo (your choice)when you install it second, and everything will work fine. If you need more help, contact me off-list. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/7/2003 at 8:03 PM Merlin Zener wrote: G'day all, Because of weight restrictions in my baggage allowance when I recently moved from Australia to Thailand, I was forced to sell off my old computers and bits etc - so now I don't have the luxury of having a whole computer I can just stick Linux on and it won't matter if I break it:) But I want to succeed, ultimately, so I'll take a deep breath and try for a dual boot system... I just built a new system last night, [It's running Win2Kpro] with a 40G hard drive I was thinking of splitting in halves with Partition Magic, and I've got an 80G HDD I brought with me from Australia that has all my backing tracks etc in wav files an MP3s, and CoolEditPro sessions etc. I'd like some help, please, to avoid any possible gotcha's to get this to work - I'm not looking for detailed point by point, just the major steps and in which order to do them - lets see how far I get :)) * If I split the 40G into two 20G partitions, how can I install Mandrake on the other half without it taking over the whole drive? * How can I make Mandrake see the files on the other half of the 40G, as well as the 80G? * oh, and btw will Win2K be able to see the Linux files too? Thanks in advance for the guidance... -- Merlin Zener piano and synthesizer Pattaya, Thailand. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I can't install anything !!!
On Friday 07 February 2003 04:56 pm, Aurélio Diniz wrote: Here's my problem: When i try to install any program with kpackage it gives me a sort of sintax error. I don't have a clue what's this about :( I tried to run Gurpmi but i get: Everything is installed You may want to go to the Mandrake home page and click on the link for errata under the support section. your problem with everything is allready installed is discribed and a quick easy fix is discribed. Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT javascript gurus?
et wrote: On Friday 07 February 2003 06:54 pm, Michael Adams wrote: On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 10:03, Todd Slater wrote: I need to develop a template for a self-correcting javascript quiz. 1. 3 radio button responses per question 2. on submit, validate that all questions have been answered 3. display correct/incorrect feedback in a textbox next to each question 4. display explanation in textarea next to each question I found a snippet I could use to accomplish 2, but I don't have a clue how to proceed on the rest (so far I just have variables set up, waiting for something to process them). If you can help I'd be much obliged. You can respond off-list. Thanks, Todd I thought about offering suggestions as i have done some javascript myself. I am likely to lead you astray as i have to test as i go to understand what i am doing. You will need to learn as you go so have these instead. http://www.programmersheaven.com/ http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/JavaScript/ Tutorials/?tc=1 and why javascript? why not perl-cgi? Both have their advantages, though my preference is for Perl - I find the syntax of javascript about as intuitive as quantum mechanics (not that Perl operators and regular expressions are immediately obvious either, but at least the syntax makes sense to anyone who's written a few shell scripts or programmed in just about any stndard language). The advantage of javascript is that it can all be done client side - you don't need a CGI-enabled server. The advantage of Perl-cgi is that you can have all your date files (questions and answers in this case) in a separate file formatted how you like. Co-incidentally, I've just been working on a Perl-CGI script for doing multiple choice quizzes - I can send you a copy if you like. Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
Pupeno wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 February 2003 04:15 am, Gil Katz wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:04, Paul wrote: In reply to Gil's mail, d.d. Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:58:30 +0200: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Evolution should be what you look for. Paul Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil Maybe this is usefull for you then: http://dot.kde.org/1035822985/1035828921/1035906330/ KMail can already handle hotmail http mail via gotmail (http://freshmeat.net/projects/gotmail/). Simply fetch your mail from your hotmail account with gotmail, save it in a local mbox-style mailbox (Warning: Don't save it in ~/Mail !) and then fetch the messages from this mailbox with KMail. You can even configure gotmail as precommand for a local account in KMail so that in order to fetch new mail from your hotmail account all you have to do is press the Check Mail button in KMail. Of course you can also enable interval checking for your hotmail account. That's the beauty of Unix. Don't reinvent the wheel a thousand times but use the tools that already exist. Regard, Ingo - From http://dot.kde.org/1035822985/1035828921/1035906330/ Gotmail is a utility to non-interactively download email from a Hotmail account. It can download messages from all folders, messages from certain folders, or new messages only. There are options to delete downloaded messages or mark them as read. Gotmail can forward messages to other email addresses or save them as local mbox-style mailboxes. I don't see why this wouldn't work in any other mail client that can read mailboxes althout I really like KMail and the precommand that really helps there may not be available in other clients. If you want KMail to look like outlook, hold your breath and wait for kde 3.2, the answer is Kontact: http://www.kontact.org http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact1.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact2.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact3.png http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/kontact/kontact4.png for more information of what's going on in 3.2 related to PIM: http://dot.kde.org/1043346607/ If you use Mozilla, the Hermes addon apparently allows reading of hotmail and some other web-based account as though they were POP3 accounts. See http://hermes.mozdev.org/index.html Hope it helped. Anyway, the get a new account advice is still a good advice. Yep, with all those free account services out there, using hotmail is unnecessary. Some now even give free POP3 accounts, e.g. softhome.net , which my wife uses. Netscape will give you a free account on registration, which can be read in Netscape Messenger (but not in Mozilla Messenger, AFAIK). Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:56, robin wrote: If you use Mozilla, the Hermes addon apparently allows reading of hotmail and some other web-based account as though they were POP3 accounts. See http://hermes.mozdev.org/index.html Not quite.. all hermes does is add a sidebar which gives you a dropdown list of webmail sites. You select hotmail, and it gives you two input boxes, username and password. You hit the login button, and it redirects the main browser page to hotmail. So all it really is is a shortcut. Plus Hermes doesn't work in the latest versions of Mozilla.. I should know.. hermes is my project.. and I can't seem to find time to fix the latest bugs. Plus I get reports that the url old versions of hermes use for hotmail might be out of date. Still.. it's a pretty colour and got a nice logo :) Sir Robin -- Azrael (\''/).___..--'''-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 Registered Linux User: 269002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual boot: pre-setup question
On Friday 07 February 2003 08:03 am, Merlin Zener wrote: G'day all, Because of weight restrictions in my baggage allowance when I recently moved from Australia to Thailand, I was forced to sell off my old computers and bits etc - so now I don't have the luxury of having a whole computer I can just stick Linux on and it won't matter if I break it:) But I want to succeed, ultimately, so I'll take a deep breath and try for a dual boot system... I just built a new system last night, [It's running Win2Kpro] with a 40G hard drive I was thinking of splitting in halves with Partition Magic, and I've got an 80G HDD I brought with me from Australia that has all my backing tracks etc in wav files an MP3s, and CoolEditPro sessions etc. I'd like some help, please, to avoid any possible gotcha's to get this to work - I'm not looking for detailed point by point, just the major steps and in which order to do them - lets see how far I get :)) * If I split the 40G into two 20G partitions, how can I install Mandrake on the other half without it taking over the whole drive? * How can I make Mandrake see the files on the other half of the 40G, as well as the 80G? * oh, and btw will Win2K be able to see the Linux files too? Thanks in advance for the guidance... the install will be fine, install win2k as Fat and not ntfs on the first partition of the drive and linux will be able to read and write them, (about 1/2 of the drive), after completly setup win2k, then boot from the cd with Mandrake, and allow it the rest of the hard drive and pick the expert install, chose at least 3 gigs as / and a swap about 2 times as much as the amount of system mem, up to about 300 megs /home to be about 2 gigs, as a file system use either ext2 or ext3 or if you have a problem with power or unexpected shutdowns use Reiserfs, but without added software, win2k will never know there is an install of Linux and will not be able to read and write them. Linux plays nice with everybody and works correctly. M$win does NOT play nice with anyone not from their family and does not really work correctly IMHO Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] wizdrake
Thanks Derek From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] wizdrake Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:14:10 + On Friday 07 Feb 2003 8:10 pm, ivette brusselmans wrote: how can I install wizdrake? tried urpmi wizdrake in console, message told me package was not available. tried search wizdrake in MCC software packages installation. Got message Wizdrake not found Is wizdrake not on the 3 download CD's? Thought it was. Thanx _ urpmi drakwizard derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Hotmail: je gratis e-mail ! http://www.msn.be/hotmail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Faulty memory for the second time
On Friday February 7 2003 09:11 pm, David E. Fox wrote: A few weeks ago I had a memory module, a 512MB DDR-333MHz (from Seitec?), replaced because it gave troubles to the GA-7VRXP mother board I had then. My first guess would be faulty / shoddy SIMM modules. Tell your vendor you want Crucial memory at least for starters. They're supposed to be among the best. I am not familiar with your motherboard so I'm not aware of SIMMS vs. motherboard issues. It is highly unlikely that it would be anything linux related but linux does tend to stress components more than Windows does, especially in processor-heavy things like compiling. If you do have shoddy RAM, that's one place where it is likely to show up first. Ed Vaessen For several years (increasingly since ~1998), there's been a tendency by some mother board and PSU vendors to use slightly cheaper, but very substandard capacitors, and other parts on their boards and in their PSU's. Abit has long been the worst offender, with 10 to 15%, and recent 21+% DOA or failure rates. But since last fall, MSI, Asus, and Gigabyte (the board involved), several others, have also had high failure rates due to faulty caps and other problems. The last three vendors I mentioned have long had a good solid reputation, but for those who thoroughly investigate boards just before building a system, they've fallen into the unacceptable or chancey category. IME, it's also the reason cheap boards, ECS, PC Chips (sold under 20+ brand names), and the like should be avoided. Motherboard and PSU are the very foundation of any system, and this is the very worst place to start out skimping or taking chances. Ed's point is also very important. Care should be taken to only buy high quality ram modules. Good ones are Crucial, Samsung, Corsair, Mosel Vitelic-Siemens, and a few others. Also generic modules that claim to use ram chips from suppliers I've cited should be avoided. The quality and design of the pcb the chips are on is equally as important as the chips used on it. The same is true for the quality and design of the motherboard the ram sticks are used on. All three have to be top quality, for good reliable ram performance. The whole subsystem is gonna be no better than the weakest link. As to PSU's, whether for an Intel, AMD system, or other Cpu system, I'd suggest only using those that AMD recommends. Most all of 'em will also have the needed Intel P4 connector. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348^4376,00.html Now I know some of y'all get upset, even take it personally when hardware you recently purchased gets slammed but, You won't find quality PSU's, motherboards, and ram in any ready made systems (Dell, Gateway, Compaq, etc) and only rarely from smaller vendors and shops. If you don't want to assemble your own system, the best best is to find a trustworthy shop and have the system built using components you specify or deliver to them. Just like with painting your house, 90% of the job is preparation just before the final work. In this case, careful investigation of current hardware quality and suitability is the preparation. Quality will vary over time, even from reputable vendors it's always a moving target. Another reason is the very latest and greatest is often chancey, no matter how flattering the (Windoze) hardware sites' reviews are. In my own situation, this oc'd Tbird/Soyo/Sparkle/Crucial, Mosel box is ready for retirement. It's using a mix of ancient pc100 and pc133 sdram (8ns 7.5ns chips), all runnin reliably at 135mhz (7.4ns), cas2. Unfortunately the current state of hardware and the wide spread use of win-hardware components (particularly on motherboards) has discouraged me from building a new system until I absolutely have to ;( As always, Y'allsMMV -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] I can't install anything !!!
On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:51 am, Pupeno wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 07 February 2003 09:44 pm, civileme wrote: 3. rpm -ivh (the directory and name of the rpm--note that TAB causes completion of the name at each branch of the path) If you run into dependency problems, get the rpms to satisfy the dependencies discovered. If you run into conflicts, stop. Doing urpmi package.rpm will try to install the package in question and all the needed packages from the resources defined or it will fail, but it is better than plain rpm. This may help to set up urpmi resources: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php Thanks - -- Pupeno: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When using urpmi or rpmdrake, there is an error about package not found before accessing the CD-ROM. Another possible error message is Everything already installed. Why: The installer misconfigured the medium description of Contribution packages. Solution: Insert the Installation CD (CD-ROM #1) and issue the command urpmi.update cdrom8 as root. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Faulty memory for the second time
I agree about why the heck to get new stuff thought,,, I see folks going backwards these days, not so worried about a 3 gig cpu (this board has an 850 via cpu and it is so quiet type stuff) heck, even win types are bitching about M$ not supporting win2k. but on the other hand, I sure could think about a dual athlon 2000 box with ddr ram In my own situation, this oc'd Tbird/Soyo/Sparkle/Crucial, Mosel box is ready for retirement. It's using a mix of ancient pc100 and pc133 sdram (8ns 7.5ns chips), all runnin reliably at 135mhz (7.4ns), cas2. Unfortunately the current state of hardware and the wide spread use of win-hardware components (particularly on motherboards) has discouraged me from building a new system until I absolutely have to ;( As always, Y'allsMMV Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How long to download 9.0
On Friday February 7 2003 10:06 pm, Robert wrote: How long will take approximately to download LM 9.0 using a DSL connection? I am well aware that each service and line could vary a bit, but just an approximate time, please. I get about 500 to 550 MB's/hour from decent sites with a 1.5Megabit adsl line (~150K/sec). DSL connections also vary quite a bit, from half my speed to almost twice as fast. The mirror you use, and how many 'stalls' (mirror server pauses) you encounter are gonna be as big a factor as the speed of your connection. I guesstimated that the stalls added about 10 mins. to each iso I recently d/l'd (3 x 650mb). Best way to minimize stalls is to use a d/l manager like d4x and d/l all the iso's simultaneously. Unfortunately all the iso's I recently d/l weren't on the mirror yet, so I had to get 'em one at a time as they appeared. Worst way is to use a browser to d/l. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How long to download 9.0
On Saturday February 8 2003 01:00 am, Todd Franklin wrote: Note to self: do not give advice while drinking. do not give advice while drinking... Why not? I do it all the time ; -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RAM Questions
Hi All, I understand that the swap partition should be about twice that of your physical ram. I have 256megs and when I allow MD to partition itself, that is the size of the swap partition it makes. Shouldn't it be 512? I seem to remember (from previous tries in the past) that there was an issue of Linux not reading all the ram. There was a file that the person was directed to and told to edit it to what his ram was. Does anyone out there know what I am talking about? Thanks Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Complete newbie, trouble trying to install mandrake 8.2 on a Mac G-4
On Saturday 08 February 2003 08:34 am, cowinacape wrote: On 2/7/03 14:15, cowinacape [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/03 13:48, Benjamin Pflugmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not too familiar with Mac usage. That said, simply burning should be enough. There shouldn't anything special to be aware of. Hm. Are you sure that you got the right images for Macs (and not accidently those for PC or whatever)? Do you still have the URLs from where you got the images? HTH, Benjamin. Sorry Benjamin, I meant to forward this back to the list, and not to you personally. I d/loaded the images from http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftpurl.php3(from the Mandrake Linux 8.2 ISO image for PPC. Section. After some reading around, I have found that I am not the only person to have trouble with these iso formated images, after checking the Roxio (Toast) web site, there is literally hundreds of queries about how to handle these iso formated images, and I have yet to find any type of answer (most of the question I have come across on Roxio's forums, deal with different versions of Linux builds all released to iso images. So far I have gone through 8 disks (CD's) and have absolutely nothing to show for it, other than 8 coasters. Mounting the iso then burning that, doesn't work, simply trying to burn the d/loaded iso, through toast as an iso doesn't work, mountign the image than taking all the files fromt he image, and burning that as an iso or mac/pc hybird doesn't seem to work either. Which leads me to why I posted here, there has to be soemone ( I hope : ) that is on a mac, and has figured out how to handle these images to build a disk that is bootable so that Mandrake can be installed. Thanks Kindly Dan Dan, I think it will be cheaper for you to order from here : http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/index.php?PAGE=2 although it's giving up on burning. All my coasters are excellent for my daughters rifle-practice at 300 meters. Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Complete newbie, trouble trying to install mandrake 8.2 on a Mac G-4
On Saturday 08 February 2003 05:28 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Dan, I think it will be cheaper for you to order from here http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/index.php?PAGE=2 although it's giving up on burning. All my coasters are excellent for my daughters rifle-practice at 300 meters. Kaj Haulrich. Sorry, Dan. I see you live in Canada, try here : http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070010812.html HTH Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How long to download 9.0
On Saturday 08 February 2003 10:58 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday February 7 2003 10:06 pm, Robert wrote: How long will take approximately to download LM 9.0 using a DSL connection? I am well aware that each service and line could vary a bit, but just an approximate time, please. I get about 500 to 550 MB's/hour from decent sites with a 1.5Megabit adsl line (~150K/sec). DSL connections also vary quite a bit, from half my speed to almost twice as fast. The mirror you use, and how many 'stalls' (mirror server pauses) you encounter are gonna be as big a factor as the speed of your connection. I guesstimated that the stalls added about 10 mins. to each iso I recently d/l'd (3 x 650mb). Best way to minimize stalls is to use a d/l manager like d4x and d/l all the iso's simultaneously. Unfortunately all the iso's I recently d/l weren't on the mirror yet, so I had to get 'em one at a time as they appeared. Worst way is to use a browser to d/l. You should get about 1.5 hours per iso at 150KB/s. Adjust accordingly depending on the speed you get from your mirror. The third iso is actually only about 450MB, so that should only take about an hour. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Hi Gil, Sure there is. Evolution is one, kmail is another. The first one is fancier (more like complete Outlook version, but buggy, at least in the 1.0.8 version) and there is kmail which is a pure mail client, working very nicely. The only thing which GNU/linux software never managed to achieve is writing an email client capable to do what Outlook does best: expose your system to 6+ viruses ;-) Enjoy! Andrei Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM Questions
On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:24 am, Russ wrote: Hi All, I understand that the swap partition should be about twice that of your physical ram. I have 256megs and when I allow MD to partition itself, that is the size of the swap partition it makes. Shouldn't it be 512? I seem to remember (from previous tries in the past) that there was an issue of Linux not reading all the ram. There was a file that the person was directed to and told to edit it to what his ram was. Does anyone out there know what I am talking about? The rule I follow is 2x RAM when physical RAM is 128MB or less; 1x RAM when physical RAM is 256MB but greater than 128; never a bigger swap than 256MB In monitoring, I have never had my swap usage get above 80MB when my physical RAM was 256MB. When I increased physical RAM to 512MB, I never use the swapfile at all, and I run a lot of stuff at the same time. Once you get past 256MB, you really don't put enough stuff in memory to require a swap file at all (for desktop use anyway). -- Gregory K. Meyer, CPA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
Does Kmail handle HTML?? Russ - Original Message - Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Hi Gil, Sure there is. Evolution is one, kmail is another. The first one is fancier (more like complete Outlook version, but buggy, at least in the 1.0.8 version) and there is kmail which is a pure mail client, working very nicely. The only thing which GNU/linux software never managed to achieve is writing an email client capable to do what Outlook does best: expose your system to 6+ viruses ;-) Enjoy! Andrei Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM Questions
Thanks for the response. I'll let MD deal with it then. Russ - Original Message - On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:24 am, Russ wrote: Hi All, I understand that the swap partition should be about twice that of your physical ram. I have 256megs and when I allow MD to partition itself, that is the size of the swap partition it makes. Shouldn't it be 512? I seem to remember (from previous tries in the past) that there was an issue of Linux not reading all the ram. There was a file that the person was directed to and told to edit it to what his ram was. Does anyone out there know what I am talking about? The rule I follow is 2x RAM when physical RAM is 128MB or less; 1x RAM when physical RAM is 256MB but greater than 128; never a bigger swap than 256MB In monitoring, I have never had my swap usage get above 80MB when my physical RAM was 256MB. When I increased physical RAM to 512MB, I never use the swapfile at all, and I run a lot of stuff at the same time. Once you get past 256MB, you really don't put enough stuff in memory to require a swap file at all (for desktop use anyway). -- Gregory K. Meyer, CPA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM Questions
On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:38 am, Gregory K. Meyer, CPA wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:24 am, Russ wrote: Hi All, I understand that the swap partition should be about twice that of your physical ram. I have 256megs and when I allow MD to partition itself, that is the size of the swap partition it makes. Shouldn't it be 512? I seem to remember (from previous tries in the past) that there was an issue of Linux not reading all the ram. There was a file that the person was directed to and told to edit it to what his ram was. Does anyone out there know what I am talking about? The rule I follow is 2x RAM when physical RAM is 128MB or less; 1x RAM when physical RAM is 256MB but greater than 128; never a bigger swap than 256MB In monitoring, I have never had my swap usage get above 80MB when my physical RAM was 256MB. When I increased physical RAM to 512MB, I never use the swapfile at all, and I run a lot of stuff at the same time. Once you get past 256MB, you really don't put enough stuff in memory to require a swap file at all (for desktop use anyway). I forgot to answer your question. That issue used to occur with older hardware. The kernel needs to be booted with a mem= parameter to tell it how much memory existed. You added it to the append line in /etc/lilo.conf. I doubt that is your problem though, see my prior e-mail. But if you want to check type cat /proc/meminfo which will output info about your memory to the screen. You can check to see how much memory the kernel thinks you have. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Hi Gil, Sure there is. Evolution is one, kmail is another. The first one is fancier (more like complete Outlook version, but buggy, at least in the 1.0.8 version) and there is kmail which is a pure mail client, working very nicely. The only thing which GNU/linux software never managed to achieve is writing an email client capable to do what Outlook does best: expose your system to 6+ viruses ;-) Enjoy! Andrei What this guy is looking for is a *HTTP* mail client, specially suited for Hotmail, like Outlook Express or Outlook. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM Questions
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:38, Gregory K. Meyer, CPA wrote: The rule I follow is 2x RAM when physical RAM is 128MB or less; 1x RAM when physical RAM is 256MB but greater than 128; never a bigger swap than 256MB In monitoring, I have never had my swap usage get above 80MB when my physical RAM was 256MB. When I increased physical RAM to 512MB, I never use the swapfile at all, and I run a lot of stuff at the same time. Once you get past 256MB, you really don't put enough stuff in memory to require a swap file at all (for desktop use anyway). At this moment I am recompiling the kernel (for the third times this week :-( due to a problem with X not starting) and the swap has already been used by the system even when my computer has 512Mb ram (aroound 350Mb free acording to gkrellm). No database, no Apache, no PHP. Only Evolution, Galeon, Konsole and gkrellm under KDE. Very strange -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thank you for the estimate on downloading LM9.0
On Friday 07 February 2003 10:30 pm, Chuck Burns wrote: On Friday 07 February 2003 10:59 pm, K. Spress wrote: Thinking about this on a 56k phone dial up modem it would take 2 days straight at 5k per second? so at about 35k per second on a 256k dsl about 6.5 hours *snip* my cablemodem is capped 1.5Mbps, the same as the most popular dsl speeds.. and I can download a 700M CD image in less than an hour, with favorable network conditions. For some of the hokier dsl services, that offer 400kbps and 800kbs, you can just about double, to quadruple that.. My cable modem has a slightly different cap. 8 Mbps (mega BITS per second) download maximum, 1.5 Mbps upload max. The big marketing point locally is that DSL is never shared bandwidth while cable is. Yeak OK, so? What I get as my shared bandwidth from cable at peak hours is still higher than the best my downstairs neighbour gets from his DSL. The last ISOs I downloaded were Mandrake 9.1beta3. All three simultaneously, three different servers so I didn't hog the bandwidth from any individual mirror. The 3 images (all three are roughly 700 MB) were completed in 1 hour 23 minutes. A three ISO distribution download with this connection is usually between 1.5 and 3.25 hours depending only on available bandwidth at the mirror and internet traffic between here and wherever there. I can download them faster than I can generally burn them since my CD-RW is only a 4x4x24 Mitsumi. g Did someone say fast? Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org If a cow laughed real hard, would milk come out her nose? -- Why Why Why n°8 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel again). However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for the CLI? TIA -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM Questions
On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:57 am, Adolfo Bello wrote: At this moment I am recompiling the kernel (for the third times this week :-( due to a problem with X not starting) and the swap has already been used by the system even when my computer has 512Mb ram (aroound 350Mb free acording to gkrellm). No database, no Apache, no PHP. Only Evolution, Galeon, Konsole and gkrellm under KDE. Very strange It seems strange that the system would prefer swap to physical RAM. Perhaps the simple fact that such a large swap file exists is causing it to be used. I'm completely speculating of course. I don't know enough to really say why, although it is interesting. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM Questions
On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:47 am, Gregory K. Meyer, CPA wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:38 am, Gregory K. Meyer, CPA wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:24 am, Russ wrote: Hi All, I understand that the swap partition should be about twice that of your physical ram. I have 256megs and when I allow MD to partition itself, that is the size of the swap partition it makes. Shouldn't it be 512? I seem to remember (from previous tries in the past) that there was an issue of Linux not reading all the ram. There was a file that the person was directed to and told to edit it to what his ram was. Does anyone out there know what I am talking about? The rule I follow is 2x RAM when physical RAM is 128MB or less; 1x RAM when physical RAM is 256MB but greater than 128; never a bigger swap than 256MB In monitoring, I have never had my swap usage get above 80MB when my physical RAM was 256MB. When I increased physical RAM to 512MB, I never use the swapfile at all, and I run a lot of stuff at the same time. Once you get past 256MB, you really don't put enough stuff in memory to require a swap file at all (for desktop use anyway). I forgot to answer your question. That issue used to occur with older hardware. The kernel needs to be booted with a mem= parameter to tell it how much memory existed. You added it to the append line in /etc/lilo.conf. this is more common a problem with on-board shared video memory motherboard/videocard combos that may not exactly correctly report available ram. I doubt that is your problem though, see my prior e-mail. But if you want to check type cat /proc/meminfo which will output info about your memory to the screen. You can check to see how much memory the kernel thinks you have. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual boot: pre-setup question
http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~leblancj/labs/lin_win2k_dual_boot.html Follow the instructions, you won't go wrong. The only thing is that the NTFS restriction he talks about is no longer there, as my system testifies! Or you can do things a little different, as I did. throw in a little of this below http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/multiboot/linux_win2k_fix.htm and you get my method (abbreviated, read the links above, take your time, and it will be fine): Install Linux first. -- first non-standard approach! Create 1st partition, bootable, win2k (inyour case, 20 gigs if you want a clean splie), NTFS worked fine. Create all other partitions after that, including a /boot right after the win2k partition Continue installing linux.. MAKE A BOOT DISK reboot when done, install win2k reboot using boot disk in linux, find out the partition name of your boot mount (here I assume dev/hda) dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1 to create the file bootsect.lnx, and copy it to a floppy. Boot to windows Edit c:\boot.ini and add an entry for Linux: C:\bootsect.lnx=Linux Copy bootsect.lnx from floppy to c:\ Reboot. First option, from the windows boot loader, allows you to go to win2k or linux. If you go to linux, you get the standard options (Linux, secure, floppy... you know) which is a pain when you just want to get there, so you can remove the prompt altogether. Hope this helps. If not, there's always Google :) Examples: My boot.ini [boot loader] timeout=5 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT=Windows 2000 /fastdetect c:\bootsect.lnx=Linux Mandrake 9.0 (ButtMunch) (always find the monikers funny, and this one tickles my wife) On Friday 07 February 2003 07:03 am, Merlin Zener wrote: G'day all, Because of weight restrictions in my baggage allowance when I recently moved from Australia to Thailand, I was forced to sell off my old computers and bits etc - so now I don't have the luxury of having a whole computer I can just stick Linux on and it won't matter if I break it:) But I want to succeed, ultimately, so I'll take a deep breath and try for a dual boot system... I just built a new system last night, [It's running Win2Kpro] with a 40G hard drive I was thinking of splitting in halves with Partition Magic, and I've got an 80G HDD I brought with me from Australia that has all my backing tracks etc in wav files an MP3s, and CoolEditPro sessions etc. I'd like some help, please, to avoid any possible gotcha's to get this to work - I'm not looking for detailed point by point, just the major steps and in which order to do them - lets see how far I get :)) * If I split the 40G into two 20G partitions, how can I install Mandrake on the other half without it taking over the whole drive? * How can I make Mandrake see the files on the other half of the 40G, as well as the 80G? * oh, and btw will Win2K be able to see the Linux files too? Thanks in advance for the guidance... -- A. Contreras My CR webpages: http://www.elnonio.dns04.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
When sending emails to lists and for general use, yes text only is acceptable and actually how it should be. This is NOT so for many family and friends that are spread the world over. Being able to dress up your letters and send pictures inline (so you can explain the photo) is a big thing and cannot be ignored. Between family and friends this is acceptable. You may have no use for HTML but others do have a valid desire to. That is why I want to write mail in HTML form. Thanks Russ BTW Mozilla's mail client sucks. Evolution is the way to go. - Original Message - Kmail will display html mails, but it will not write html mails. But then why would anyone want to write their mails in html? You would only piss people off. (Reasons being a/ Some clients cannot handle html and your mails would be unreadable. b/ A mail in html can look fine on one machine, and awful on another c/ Html mails are lots bigger and take longer to download d/ There is nothing you cannot express in plain text ) If you *really* want to write mails in HTML then Mozilla mail can do it. (But please send only plain text to this list) derek On Saturday 08 Feb 2003 4:40 pm, Russ wrote: Does Kmail handle HTML?? Russ - Original Message - Hi is there any HTML e-mail client like outlook express? Gil Hi Gil, Sure there is. Evolution is one, kmail is another. The first one is fancier (more like complete Outlook version, but buggy, at least in the 1.0.8 version) and there is kmail which is a pure mail client, working very nicely. The only thing which GNU/linux software never managed to achieve is writing an email client capable to do what Outlook does best: expose your system to 6+ viruses ;-) Enjoy! Andrei Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How long to download 9.0
On Saturday February 8 2003 10:32 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 10:58 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday February 7 2003 10:06 pm, Robert wrote: How long will take approximately to download LM 9.0 using a DSL connection? I am well aware that each service and line could vary a bit, but just an approximate time, please. I get about 500 to 550 MB's/hour from decent sites with a 1.5Megabit adsl line (~150K/sec). DSL connections also vary quite a bit, from half my speed to almost twice as fast. The mirror you use, and how many 'stalls' (mirror server pauses) you encounter are gonna be as big a factor as the speed of your connection. I guesstimated that the stalls added about 10 mins. to each iso I recently d/l'd (3 x 650mb). Best way to minimize stalls is to use a d/l manager like d4x and d/l all the iso's simultaneously. Unfortunately all the iso's I recently d/l weren't on the mirror yet, so I had to get 'em one at a time as they appeared. Worst way is to use a browser to d/l. You should get about 1.5 hours per iso at 150KB/s. Adjust accordingly depending on the speed you get from your mirror. The third iso is actually only about 450MB, so that should only take about an hour. That 'recent' d/l was 9.1b3, all 3 iso's were 650mb each, from a mirror in Norway. Tho I see peaks up into the 170K/sec range occaisionally, my best average speed is ~150K. On busy servers, or those that stall or slow a lot it's more likely 140+K. I'm also about as far away from my telco's substation as DSL is feasble. Which is another factor. IIRC, 700mb iso's I've d/l'd were under 1.5 hours, more like 1hr, 15 or 20 mins. Two simultaneously in just over two hours. Which is why I believe stalls are a real factor. d/l'g 2 at a time minimizes stalls, 3 at a time is even better. In any event, it's a whole lot quicker than an average 4.8K/sec with a good 56kilo bit connection ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
mutt, elm, pine, (what happens if you type mail without the quotes?) On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:08 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel again). However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for the CLI? TIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:08 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel again). However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for the CLI? TIA Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started? -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
BTW Mozilla's mail client sucks. Evolution is the way to go. I have not used Mozilla, but I think that Evolution is bloated, the use I would think for it would be in an office where you might need everything but the kitchen sink /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 11:15:18AM +0200, Gil Katz wrote: Evolution got POP or IMAP what i need is a e-mail client to connect to hotmail Gil As far as I know. hotmail uses a special protocol which outlook express and possibly the latest version of outlook can connect to... If you are using Linux, I think there might be something to pull it done to your system and possibly read it from there, if there is not, something could be written by using something like wget, probably. Ken -- Now I am depressed ... www.kenwstevens.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:15, et wrote: mutt, elm, pine, (what happens if you type mail without the quotes?) No mail for adolfobello -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:23:18AM -0800, Russ wrote: When sending emails to lists and for general use, yes text only is acceptable and actually how it should be. This is NOT so for many family and friends that are spread the world over. Being able to dress up your letters and send pictures inline (so you can explain the photo) is a big thing and cannot be ignored. Between family and friends this is acceptable. You may have no use for HTML but others do have a valid desire to. That is why I want to write mail in HTML form. Yes, HTML mail can be ignored. It does not belong in emails. One reason not already listed is that a malicious person can really cause problems by coding html with javascript and.or activex objects (the latter only on MS machines) which may spread virii or worms. Ken -- Just to have it is enough. www.kenwstevens.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM Questions
On Saturday February 8 2003 10:24 am, Russ wrote: Hi All, I understand that the swap partition should be about twice that of your physical ram. I have 256megs and when I allow MD to partition itself, that is the size of the swap partition it makes. Shouldn't it be 512? I seem to remember (from previous tries in the past) that there was an issue of Linux not reading all the ram. There was a file that the person was directed to and told to edit it to what his ram was. Does anyone out there know what I am talking about? Yes, but that situation, ie, 'not seein all the ram' (older kernels), is as outdated as the rule of thumb to make the /swap 2x physical ram. 256mb /swap with 256k ram is fine for most all users. For that matter, 256mb /swap with 512 or 1 gig of ram would be too. This would not be true for a server under load. Then the /swap needed might be even more than 2 x ram. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:16, CyberCFO wrote: Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started? Last night I tried to upgrade to new kernel 2.4.19-24, and around 1:30 am (EST), when everything was finished and I rebooted, I couldn't get X started. The system went into runlevel 5 three times but X didn't start. I tried then to rollback to the previous version, but I should have done something wrong because X didn't start and I got a 2.4.19-24 welcome message instead of the 2.4.19-16 I expected. I waited until today for any help, but Outlook was driving me crazy and I decided to reinstall Mandrake. I am upgrading again and turning ACPI support on which I need for my laptop and just to see if I can get any sound out of this machine. And of course, because I need to find out why X didn't start. Praying that I don't have to reinstall again :-) -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM Questions
okay, I do have onboard video but I have an agp video card installed. I wonder is MD is getting confused? (it did fined my agp card though). Anyway, next time I install MD I will look at the ram and see what it is seeing. I am experimenting with various configurations with MD9 and RedHat 8. There doesn't seem to be anything new or different in RH than MD so I am wondering why run two. Mandrake was by far easier to install. Russ - Original Message - I forgot to answer your question. That issue used to occur with older hardware. The kernel needs to be booted with a mem= parameter to tell it how much memory existed. You added it to the append line in /etc/lilo.conf. this is more common a problem with on-board shared video memory motherboard/videocard combos that may not exactly correctly report available ram. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual boot: pre-setup question
Trust me: I almost got a PhD in installing Windows and Mandrake this week :-) 1.- *First of all*, install Windows 2000/XP. 2.- Create a FAT32 partition to hold data that you want to read/write with Windows and Mandrake. 3.- Install Mandrake. It is this easy. You will get a dual boot system. On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:23, Antonio Contreras wrote: http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~leblancj/labs/lin_win2k_dual_boot.html Follow the instructions, you won't go wrong. The only thing is that the NTFS restriction he talks about is no longer there, as my system testifies! Or you can do things a little different, as I did. throw in a little of this below http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/multiboot/linux_win2k_fix.htm and you get my method (abbreviated, read the links above, take your time, and it will be fine): Install Linux first. -- first non-standard approach! Create 1st partition, bootable, win2k (inyour case, 20 gigs if you want a clean splie), NTFS worked fine. Create all other partitions after that, including a /boot right after the win2k partition Continue installing linux.. MAKE A BOOT DISK reboot when done, install win2k reboot using boot disk in linux, find out the partition name of your boot mount (here I assume dev/hda) dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1 to create the file bootsect.lnx, and copy it to a floppy. Boot to windows Edit c:\boot.ini and add an entry for Linux: C:\bootsect.lnx=Linux Copy bootsect.lnx from floppy to c:\ Reboot. First option, from the windows boot loader, allows you to go to win2k or linux. If you go to linux, you get the standard options (Linux, secure, floppy... you know) which is a pain when you just want to get there, so you can remove the prompt altogether. Hope this helps. If not, there's always Google :) Examples: My boot.ini [boot loader] timeout=5 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT=Windows 2000 /fastdetect c:\bootsect.lnx=Linux Mandrake 9.0 (ButtMunch) (always find the monikers funny, and this one tickles my wife) On Friday 07 February 2003 07:03 am, Merlin Zener wrote: G'day all, Because of weight restrictions in my baggage allowance when I recently moved from Australia to Thailand, I was forced to sell off my old computers and bits etc - so now I don't have the luxury of having a whole computer I can just stick Linux on and it won't matter if I break it:) But I want to succeed, ultimately, so I'll take a deep breath and try for a dual boot system... I just built a new system last night, [It's running Win2Kpro] with a 40G hard drive I was thinking of splitting in halves with Partition Magic, and I've got an 80G HDD I brought with me from Australia that has all my backing tracks etc in wav files an MP3s, and CoolEditPro sessions etc. I'd like some help, please, to avoid any possible gotcha's to get this to work - I'm not looking for detailed point by point, just the major steps and in which order to do them - lets see how far I get :)) * If I split the 40G into two 20G partitions, how can I install Mandrake on the other half without it taking over the whole drive? * How can I make Mandrake see the files on the other half of the 40G, as well as the 80G? * oh, and btw will Win2K be able to see the Linux files too? Thanks in advance for the guidance... -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM Questions
On Saturday 08 February 2003 09:24 am, Russ wrote: Hi All, I understand that the swap partition should be about twice that of your physical ram. I have 256megs and when I allow MD to partition itself, that is the size of the swap partition it makes. Shouldn't it be 512? I seem to remember (from previous tries in the past) that there was an issue of Linux not reading all the ram. There was a file that the person was directed to and told to edit it to what his ram was. Does anyone out there know what I am talking about? Thanks Russ Not really off subject Russ but: Just out of curiosity I allowed the automatic/default install of Mandrake 9.1beta2 to partition, format, and otherwise manipulate, a new hard drive since I was having so much fun installing it. I clicked Use the whole disk or whatever the terminology is for automatic. I did this under the theory that if I didn't screw with/up any settings or configurations it may be that I'd learn what was broken. Since I had a new 40 GB Maxtor sitting here I swapped out one of the 60 GB hard drives and went nuts. /usr ended by being (in my opinion) too small, /var way too large, no separate /boot, and the swap size was set at 403 MB. This box runs 768 MB of RAM; previously a full 1024 but the motherboard is old and it's lost it's ability to communicate with one of the 4 slots. Back in the day it was a good rule of thumb to have swap=double (or 2.5x) the available physical memory, but I remember reading somewhere that this is no longer necessary. If you have the space to spare (I do) go for it if it makes you feel better, but when I reinstalled to full cooker I repartitioned to have a separate /boot and kept the swap size at approximately 400 MB. No trouble so far. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org We're here to give you a computer, not a religion. - attributed to Bob Pariseau, at the introduction of the Amiga Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
Again, I must respectfully disagree with you. Unless they can come up with another way to dress up plain ol text between friends and family, it will stay. Most people want eye candy and without it they will move on. Linux does not need the various GUI's to operate, but in order to get more people on board it is necessary to make it more flashy and the same goes with email. It does not need flashy to work but that is what many many many many people want. You can rant and rave about it all you want but that is life. It is not about what makes it work but about what people want. Yes there are security risks involved but anytime you make things easier, you risk security. Russ - Original Message - On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:23:18AM -0800, Russ wrote: When sending emails to lists and for general use, yes text only is acceptable and actually how it should be. This is NOT so for many family and friends that are spread the world over. Being able to dress up your letters and send pictures inline (so you can explain the photo) is a big thing and cannot be ignored. Between family and friends this is acceptable. You may have no use for HTML but others do have a valid desire to. That is why I want to write mail in HTML form. Yes, HTML mail can be ignored. It does not belong in emails. One reason not already listed is that a malicious person can really cause problems by coding html with javascript and.or activex objects (the latter only on MS machines) which may spread virii or worms. Ken Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
Sure there is. Evolution is one, kmail is another. The first one is fancier (more like complete Outlook version, but buggy, at least in the 1.0.8 version) and there is kmail which is a pure mail client, working very nicely. The only thing which GNU/linux software never managed to achieve is writing an email client capable to do what Outlook does best: expose your system to 6+ viruses ;-) Personally I love Sylpheed, although it doesn't handle HTML very well, but HTML is generally a nuicanse (sp!) anyway, but then again there are tonnes of emailclients in Windows that doesn't expose you to viruses either. /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thank you for the estimate on downloading LM9.0
On Saturday 08 February 2003 10:07 am, Charlie wrote: snip The last ISOs I downloaded were Mandrake 9.1beta3. All three simultaneously, three different servers so I didn't hog the bandwidth from any individual mirror. The 3 images (all three are roughly 700 MB) were completed in 1 hour 23 minutes. A three ISO distribution download with this connection is usually between 1.5 and 3.25 hours depending only on available bandwidth at the mirror and internet traffic between here and wherever there. Sorry! Those ISOs (9.1beta3) are roughly 650 MB not 700. Everything else was as stated. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org There may be said to be two classes of people in the world; those who constantly divide the people of the world into two classes and those who do not. -- Robert Benchley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
You are right about the bloat but it does send and receive in HTML. I am still looking for the slimmed down version like OutLook Ex is to OutLook. Russ - Original Message - BTW Mozilla's mail client sucks. Evolution is the way to go. I have not used Mozilla, but I think that Evolution is bloated, the use I would think for it would be in an office where you might need everything but the kitchen sink /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:40 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:16, CyberCFO wrote: Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started? Last night I tried to upgrade to new kernel 2.4.19-24, and around 1:30 am (EST), when everything was finished and I rebooted, I couldn't get X started. The system went into runlevel 5 three times but X didn't start. I tried then to rollback to the previous version, but I should have done something wrong because X didn't start and I got a 2.4.19-24 welcome message instead of the 2.4.19-16 I expected. I waited until today for any help, but Outlook was driving me crazy and I decided to reinstall Mandrake. I am upgrading again and turning ACPI support on which I need for my laptop and just to see if I can get any sound out of this machine. And of course, because I need to find out why X didn't start. Praying that I don't have to reinstall again :-) A couple of shots in the dark, but maybe they will help. I have had X fail to start when the partition that had /tmp on it was full. This prevented xfs (font server) from starting; nVidia graphics? When you boot to runlevel 3 and try and start XFree with startx, what error messages do you get? -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM Questions
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:44 pm, Russ wrote: okay, I do have onboard video but I have an agp video card installed. I wonder is MD is getting confused? (it did fined my agp card though). Anyway, next time I install MD I will look at the ram and see what it is seeing. I am experimenting with various configurations with MD9 and RedHat 8. There doesn't seem to be anything new or different in RH than MD so I am wondering why run two. Mandrake was by far easier to install. RedHat 8.0 looks nicer at first glance than Mandrake 9.0 and a lot of people find it better for that reason, but IMO, mandrake is far easier to configure than Redhat for a desktop user. 8.0 was a nice first try, but RH still has work to do. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] new to list////gamming on linux
On Friday 07 February 2003 10:36 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: At 09:07 PM 2/7/2003 -0800, you wrote: On Friday 07 February 2003 07:25 pm, David Jones wrote: First off hi to everyone second offi need to run Diablo 2 Lod On Linux Mandrake 9.0 i have wine installed ... i think and now donot know where to start with this I am a total newbie to linux...well not totaly i do know a little but never used the command line tools and etc but i am a fast learner lol so in end i need help please can someone help me with this I am not sure if you can run Diablo 2 on linux. but there are guys on the web that are as hot about games as you are, so if anybody knows how, they are out there. A good spot to start a search is at happypenguin.org, or at google.com. I am pretty sure that you will find some answers there. Rob You can run D2 its XP. Most ppl use crossovers plugin (which is free in .src form IIRC). For all you game freaks a link: http://www.linuxgames.com/ - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert It will cost you go to www.transgaming com and get WineX 2.0 or later. ALL problems with Diablo2 have been resolved as of that release. You can DL it from the CVS and compile it yourself or subscribe for $5/month and download the finished rpm which even gets on the Mandrake Menu... Then you use the command line ONCE $ winex /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe and after that you can run Diablo2 from the command line By The Way (BTW) you don't need any windows compatible space on your system to do this, nor do you need windows installed. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:56 pm, Russ wrote: Again, I must respectfully disagree with you. Unless they can come up with another way to dress up plain ol text between friends and family, it will stay. Most people want eye candy and without it they will move on. Linux does not need the various GUI's to operate, but in order to get more people on board it is necessary to make it more flashy and the same goes with email. It does not need flashy to work but that is what many many many many people want. You can rant and rave about it all you want but that is life. It is not about what makes it work but about what people want. Yes there are security risks involved but anytime you make things easier, you risk security. There are many who believe that people that want to use those kinds of features should not be using a computer, and at a minimum should not be using Linux. It is a snobbish sort of approach. Although there are some good points in the arguments, people are willing to take the risk for the eye-candy, so as long as they are educated to the risk and are willing to accept it, then I say so be it. As for kmail, you can create html mails by specifying a different editor for composing mail. How I deal with the security risks of html mail is with filters that whitelist people I trust. If I receive an html e-mail from somebody not on my trusted list, it gets sent to a different folder that displays everything as plain text, so it can be examined without rendering the html. If the sender is on the list, the message is forwarded to my inbox. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:07, Russ wrote: You are right about the bloat but it does send and receive in HTML. I am still looking for the slimmed down version like OutLook Ex is to OutLook. Russ - Original Message - BTW Mozilla's mail client sucks. Evolution is the way to go. I have not used Mozilla, but I think that Evolution is bloated, the use I would think for it would be in an office where you might need everything but the kitchen sink /Anders We should remember that Evolution was thought, created and designed to be a Linux client for Exchange servers and turned out to be a nice MUA/PIM. It may be bloated but I use almost any feature in it: mail, calendar, todo (tasks), contacts and particularly helpful to me, an assistant reminding me through my cell phone/pager of every meeting or appointment that I may have. It has even saved me from some trouble reminding me my wedding anniversary :-) -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
You are right about the bloat but it does send and receive in HTML. I am still looking for the slimmed down version like OutLook Ex is to OutLook. I have not used it myself but IIRC there is a client called Balsa that is supposed to be good. Perhaps somebody else has used it and can give us a review of it /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:14, Greg Meyer wrote: I have had X fail to start when the partition that had /tmp on it was full. This prevented xfs (font server) from starting; XFS started Ok. nVidia graphics? Yup When you boot to runlevel 3 and try and start XFree with startx, what error messages do you get? I didn't write it down but I am sure was nothing related to /tmp being full or so I guess. It said something like X being unable to find a terminal. In about half an hour I'll be reinstalling the new kernel again. I hope nothing goes wrong, but if it does i will take detailed notes of error messages. Thanks a lot for your concern. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual boot: pre-setup question
On Saturday 08 February 2003 04:46 am, et wrote: On Friday 07 February 2003 08:03 am, Merlin Zener wrote: G'day all, Because of weight restrictions in my baggage allowance when I recently moved from Australia to Thailand, I was forced to sell off my old computers and bits etc - so now I don't have the luxury of having a whole computer I can just stick Linux on and it won't matter if I break it:) But I want to succeed, ultimately, so I'll take a deep breath and try for a dual boot system... I just built a new system last night, [It's running Win2Kpro] with a 40G hard drive I was thinking of splitting in halves with Partition Magic, and I've got an 80G HDD I brought with me from Australia that has all my backing tracks etc in wav files an MP3s, and CoolEditPro sessions etc. I'd like some help, please, to avoid any possible gotcha's to get this to work - I'm not looking for detailed point by point, just the major steps and in which order to do them - lets see how far I get :)) * If I split the 40G into two 20G partitions, how can I install Mandrake on the other half without it taking over the whole drive? * How can I make Mandrake see the files on the other half of the 40G, as well as the 80G? * oh, and btw will Win2K be able to see the Linux files too? Thanks in advance for the guidance... the install will be fine, install win2k as Fat and not ntfs on the first partition of the drive and linux will be able to read and write them, (about 1/2 of the drive), after completly setup win2k, then boot from the cd with Mandrake, and allow it the rest of the hard drive and pick the expert install, chose at least 3 gigs as / and a swap about 2 times as much as the amount of system mem, up to about 300 megs /home to be about 2 gigs, as a file system use either ext2 or ext3 or if you have a problem with power or unexpected shutdowns use Reiserfs, but without added software, win2k will never know there is an install of Linux and will not be able to read and write them. Linux plays nice with everybody and works correctly. M$win does NOT play nice with anyone not from their family and does not really work correctly IMHO There is really no need to use PM--just partition/format half the drive for win2K and install and mandrake will happily configure itself for the other half. As ed said, use FAT32 for maximum utility of windows to linux and vice-versa file exchange (managed by linux). Mandrake has its own partition manager called diskdrake which you will see during install if you choose to customize the linux partitions. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
It may be bloated but I use almost any feature in it: mail, calendar, todo (tasks), contacts and particularly helpful to me, an assistant reminding me through my cell phone/pager of every meeting or appointment that I may have. Personally I prefer the traditional UNIX approach, one program one task and do it well, but to each his own. This is also btw my strongest objection towards Emacs. It has even saved me from some trouble reminding me my wedding anniversary :-) *grins* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:35 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:14, Greg Meyer wrote: I have had X fail to start when the partition that had /tmp on it was full. This prevented xfs (font server) from starting; XFS started Ok. nVidia graphics? Yup This may seem rather obvious, but which driver are you using nv(free) or nvidia(proprietary)? If nvidia, did you recompile the kernel module after installing the new kernel? -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] RAM Questions
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Meyer Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 1:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] RAM Questions On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:44 pm, Russ wrote: okay, I do have onboard video but I have an agp video card installed. I wonder is MD is getting confused? (it did fined my agp card though). Anyway, next time I install MD I will look at the ram and see what it is seeing. I am experimenting with various configurations with MD9 and RedHat 8. There doesn't seem to be anything new or different in RH than MD so I am wondering why run two. Mandrake was by far easier to install. RedHat 8.0 looks nicer at first glance than Mandrake 9.0 and a lot of people find it better for that reason, but IMO, mandrake is far easier to configure than Redhat for a desktop user. 8.0 was a nice first try, but RH still has work to do. -- Greg I believe that is precisely why PC Magazine recently gave the Editor's Choice Award to Mandrake over Red Hat. In doing a little research, Mandrake will also run the GUI in 64 MB of RAM where the latest version of Red Hat needs 128 MB. That's a concern if you are setting up an older machine for learning or testing. My Pentium 200 MMX runs Mandrake 9.0 just fine, although slow while in the GUI. People have commented how fast my Apache server is, though! When I use SSH to get to a remote command line, I don't believe you could ever tell it was only a P-200 (for common tasks, anyway). I'm happy. :-) Regards, Marlo Montanaro CNE Registered Linux User 303184 There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:44, Greg Meyer wrote: This may seem rather obvious, but which driver are you using nv(free) or nvidia(proprietary)? If nvidia, did you recompile the kernel module after installing the new kernel? nv(free). Do I need to recompile this one? -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 15:03, Mark wrote: when you compiled this kernel did you make a boot disk for it and test it before installing the kernel? this would greatly alleviate all the troublesome having to reload not to mention having X breaking on you. In the seven years I've been using Linux I've never attempted to install a kernel without first testing it with a boot disk. save the the first time. ;) No, I didn't. Timing is more than right for this advise. In a few minutes I will be installing the new kernel. Thanks a lot. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:58 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:44, Greg Meyer wrote: This may seem rather obvious, but which driver are you using nv(free) or nvidia(proprietary)? If nvidia, did you recompile the kernel module after installing the new kernel? nv(free). Do I need to recompile this one? Not if you included it in your kernel config -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] new to list////gamming on linux
Hi David. I've got Diablo2 - Lord of Destruction working fine here under Mandrake v9.0. Goto: http://www.transgaming.com Subscribe for 3 months (not expensive) - download the latest RPM of WineX (Wine on steroids). (you can also download a free version that you have to build, but since you're a newbie - this would be easier). Read the docs. Install D2/LOD and enjoy. :-) Send more messages if you require further assistance - plenty of people here just dying to help. grin Yikes, just what I learn from posting first. Yes, I game, but not much, and certainly not with winex. I only play linux games. Rob -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:08 am, Adolfo Bello wrote: Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel again). However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for the CLI? TIA Pine, Mutt.. mutt is my fav cli mail client -- Chuck Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I can't install anything !!!
On Friday 07 February 2003 06:44 pm, civileme wrote: On Friday 07 February 2003 04:56 pm, Aurélio Diniz wrote: Here's my problem: When i try to install any program with kpackage it gives me a sort of sintax error. I don't have a clue what's this about :( I tried to run Gurpmi but i get: Everything is installed I can only install with urpmi in the command line... BTW, when install from the command line, can kpackage see the installed progs afterwards? Any advise? filipe First of all don't use kpackage or use it logged in as root (DANGEROUS) You must be kidding me. Kpackage is a fine little utility that has not done anydamage to my system in all the years it has been around. My preferred method is to use command line rpm to do it though. Urpmi is just a pain for all its functionality. Rpm rocks, and Kpackage can have as much power as Urpmi in searching for a file, with less hassle. Rob -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:16, CyberCFO wrote: Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started? Last night I tried to upgrade to new kernel 2.4.19-24, and around 1:30 am (EST), when everything was finished and I rebooted, I couldn't get X started. The system went into runlevel 5 three times but X didn't start. I tried then to rollback to the previous version, but I should have done something wrong because X didn't start and I got a 2.4.19-24 welcome message instead of the 2.4.19-16 I expected. I waited until today for any help, but Outlook was driving me crazy and I decided to reinstall Mandrake. I am upgrading again and turning ACPI support on which I need for my laptop and just to see if I can get any sound out of this machine. And of course, because I need to find out why X didn't start. Praying that I don't have to reinstall again :-) when you compiled this kernel did you make a boot disk for it and test it before installing the kernel? this would greatly alleviate all the troublesome having to reload not to mention having X breaking on you. In the seven years I've been using Linux I've never attempted to install a kernel without first testing it with a boot disk. save the the first time. ;) -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] xmms weirdness (multiple instances)
I just did some security updating in 8.2, and now when I open xmms, I have four instances running. Not four players on the screen, but if I do ps -Af| grep xmms it reports there are 4. I noticed this because the info-pipe I use to tell the last 5 songs lists the same song 5 times. I'm using xmms 1.2.4. Has anybody else seen this? Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xmms weirdness (multiple instances)
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 09:09:02 -0500 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just did some security updating in 8.2, and now when I open xmms, I have four instances running. Not four players on the screen, but if I do ps-Af| grep xmms it reports there are 4. I noticed this because the info-pipe I use to tell the last 5 songs lists the same song 5 times. I'm using xmms 1.2.4. Has anybody else seen this? Todd Wow, you're lucky, I have 6 ;-) Using Mandrake 9.0 here. No idea why, but I have 1 instance really running. Greetings Ralph -- http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ http://axljab.homelinux.org:8080/ Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:35 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:14, Greg Meyer wrote: I have had X fail to start when the partition that had /tmp on it was full. This prevented xfs (font server) from starting; XFS started Ok. nVidia graphics? Yup This may seem rather obvious, but which driver are you using nv(free) or nvidia(proprietary)? If nvidia, did you recompile the kernel module after installing the new kernel? you may also try compiling the drivers directly into the kernel as opposed to loading the module for the nvidia card. that sometimes help the situation. however it does make for a heavier kernel. -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Compiling chkroot
I'm having problems compiling chkrootkit. When I try and make I get the following errors: gcc -static -o strings strings.c /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [strings] Error 1 I ran into the same problem a while back trying to compile an older version, however I can't figure out what I did to resolve the problem. Any help is greatly appreciated. Dan Cox Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I can't install anything !!!
Thanks guys. The problem is that not a CL fan. I just want a good GUI to manage my rpm's. I there an alternative out there that replaces mdk package tools? TIA and TIO :-) LOL Filipe Dinis Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem Running 9.0...
et said... if you went with the linux 3 then the mode your computer should be in is text mode (25x80) and I am pretty darn sure the monitor supports that. what may be happening is that the network is misconfigured or some otehr problem, if you leave it like that and go to lunch, it might just time out on what ever is the problem, and come back on. It looks like it was the monitor being asked to try some mode it wasn't happy with I managed to borrow another one, hooked it up and all started fine. I changed the resolution back to 800x600 and the original monitor now works. The system is running very slowly -- far more slowly than the Win2k that's on there as well -- but at least I can see what's going on now! Thanks for your time... julian Templeman Consulting Ltd. London and North Wales Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing Mandrake 9.0 on Toshiba laptop
Today I installed Mandrake 9.0 on a Toshiba laptop. Or I tried to, anyway. I simply used the standard install CD's (downloaded from the Mandrake site). They booted just fine, and the install ran without a hitch. I did get one message telling me that some of my hardware required proprietary drivers and referring me to www.linmodems.com. I figured this message was specifically about the modem, and since I don't plan to be online with this computer I ignored it. After installation, the system wouldn't boot up - it always hung on Starting pcmcia devices ... or something to that effect. Everything up to that point, however, worked fine. What have I done wrong? How can I fix it? = - No, I'm a good man. I'm just not a very good wizard. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Complete newbie,trouble trying to install mandrake 8.2 on a Mac G-4
Dan, I think it will be cheaper for you to order from here : http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/index.php?PAGE=2 although it's giving up on burning. All my coasters are excellent for my daughters rifle-practice at 300 meters. Kaj Haulrich. That's just about what I was ready to start doing with them myself :) Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
