[newbie-it] Variabili d'ambiente

2003-06-23 Thread Enrico Piccinini

Ciao a tutti, una domanda veloce veloce e facile facile,

Dove e come si settano delle varibili di sistema (devo imostarne una con
il nome di una directory) in linux?

Grazie e buona settimana a tutti 
Enrico


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[newbie-it] cancellazione ML

2003-06-23 Thread francesco







Vorrei cancellarmi dalla ML.
Grazie









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Re: [newbie-it] Utilizzo della RAM

2003-06-23 Thread Andrea Celli
Alle 16:16, sabato 21 giugno 2003, Pollo ha scritto:
 Ho un pc con pentium III 500MHz e 450MB di RAM. Appena avvio linux
 (mandrake 9.1) l'uso della RAM è già di 300MB circa. .

 Il comando top mi dice la percentuale di memoria usata da ogni processo
 ma mi sembra sbagliato. Quando ho il 70% di ram utilizzata se vado a
 guardare i processi totali e faccio una somma delle percentuali indicate
 da top arrivo a ma la pena al 15%.

il fatto è che Linux usa la RAM libera come cache, quindi tutti i processi che
hai avviato e chiuso restano in ram finché non c'è bisogno di liberare lo
spazio che occupano. Ovviamente, non essendo più attivi, non sono rilevati
da top o ps. Però, se ne hai di nuovo bisogno, sono già in RAM e non devi
ricaricarli. 
Fai la prova con un processo grosso, che ci mette una vita a spostarsi da HD
a RAM: openoffice. Lo apri (spostando 20MB da hd a ram), lo chiudi e
dopo un po' lo riapri. La seconda volta dovrebbe essere molto più rapido.

ciao, andrea



Re: [newbie-it] Word processor

2003-06-23 Thread Andrea Celli
Alle 22:16, domenica 22 giugno 2003, Junkie ha scritto:
 Ciao a tutti,
 nessuno conosce un Word processor japponese che giri su linux e che abbia i
 supporti hiragana/katakana/kanji e dizionario(come ad esempio l'NJ star per
 windows)?
 Mi rendo conto che come domanda è un po'astrusa, in ogni caso ringrazio
 chiunque sapesse dirmi qualcosa al riguardo :)


Credo che quasi tutti i wp  (OpenOffice, StarOffice, abiword, maxwell, kwrite,
SIAG, ...) abbiano le localizzazioni giapponesi.
Altrimenti, prova con Hangcom (http://en.hancom.com/index.html) che nasce
in estremo oriente e quindi ... 


ciao, Andrea



Re: [newbie-it] Variabili d'ambiente

2003-06-23 Thread Andrea Celli
Alle 08:48, luned 23 giugno 2003, Enrico Piccinini ha scritto:
 Ciao a tutti, una domanda veloce veloce e facile facile,

 Dove e come si settano delle varibili di sistema (devo imostarne una con
 il nome di una directory) in linux?


come:
set VARIABILE=valore-variabile
export VARIABILE

oppure

export VARIABILE=valore-variabile

dove:
- direttamente da bash, ma muoiono quando chiudi la shell
- in $HOME/.bash_profile per il singolo utente
- in /etc/profile per tutti gli utenti


Vedi man bash o man tcsh (a seconda della shell che usi)
per ulteriori dettagli.


ciao, Andrea




Re: [newbie-it] cancellazione ML

2003-06-23 Thread Paride Desimone

At 10.23 23/06/03 +0200, you wrote:

Vorrei cancellarmi dalla ML.
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Re: [newbie-it] Ma perche' la domenica mi fanno inca22are?

2003-06-23 Thread syd
* Arwan wrote:

 E no, non ci siamo. L'altro mezzo pomeriggio m'e' partito con send-hook 

Aggiungi nella parte iniziale del tuo .muttrc (comunque prima dei
vari hook da te specificati)

set default_hook = ~f %s !~P | (~P ~C %s)

Non so se questa stringa puo' risolvere i tuoi problemi.. prova.
Prova anche le indicazioni che Giuseppe ti ha dato sulla sintassi da
dare agli hook.

A scanso di equivoci.. ogni volta che fai una modifica a .muttrc devi
chiudere e riaprire mutt affinche' possa essere rilevata.
 
 OK per il resto.

Che culo ;)


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Re: [newbie-it] cancellazione ML

2003-06-23 Thread artasersec
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:23:06 +0200 (ora legale Europa occ.), francesco 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Vorrei cancellarmi dalla ML.

Grazie

Per cancellarti dalla ML devi andare a questa pagina:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/it/flists.php3
Liste di supporto, inserire l'email con cui ti sei iscritto alla ML, 
selezionare la lingua della ML (italiano), categoria utenti: principianti, 
selezionare annulla iscrizione e infine cliccare su submit.
Ciao ^_^

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Re:[newbie-it] redirezionamento output

2003-06-23 Thread Mario Lodi Rizzini
 Ciao a tutti
 volevo sapere se fosse possibile il redirezionamento di tutto l'output di un
 programma verso un file di testo.
 Mi spiego meglio: se da console lancio un programma con la sintassi
 nomeprog  log.txt, nel file log.txt non mette tutto il testo ottenuto in
 output, infatti soprattutto i messaggi di errore vengono visualizzati solo
 in console.
 Se qualcuno ha qualche idea...

nomeprog  log.txt 21
In questa maniera sia lo standard output che lo standard error vengono scirtti
sul file log.txt

Saluti

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[newbie-it] redirezionamento output

2003-06-23 Thread Gianluca
Ciao a tutti
volevo sapere se fosse possibile il redirezionamento di tutto l'output di un
programma verso un file di testo.
Mi spiego meglio: se da console lancio un programma con la sintassi
nomeprog  log.txt, nel file log.txt non mette tutto il testo ottenuto in
output, infatti soprattutto i messaggi di errore vengono visualizzati solo
in console.
Se qualcuno ha qualche idea...




Re: [newbie-it] cancellazione ML

2003-06-23 Thread tom
On Monday 23 June 2003 10:23, francesco wrote:
  Vorrei cancellarmi dalla ML.

non ti preoccupare...gia glielo dico io,tanto sono amici miei :)

 Grazie

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/it/flists.php3

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Re: [newbie-it] Variabili d'ambiente

2003-06-23 Thread tom
On Monday 23 June 2003 08:48, Enrico Piccinini wrote:
 Ciao a tutti, una domanda veloce veloce e facile facile,

 Dove e come si settano delle varibili di sistema (devo imostarne una con
 il nome di una directory) in linux?

 Grazie e buona settimana a tutti
 Enrico

in /etc/profile per tutti gli utenti
in /home/tuo_utente/.bash_profile per il singolo utente (se non c' il file 
crealo tu)

per maggiori info:
http://a2.swlibero.org/a286.html#title930

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Re: [newbie-it] 2 harddisk 2 linux 2 orari

2003-06-23 Thread miKe
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Alle 13:12, sabato 21 giugno 2003,  in merito a [newbie-it] 2 harddisk 2 
linux 2 orari,  Mirko   ha scritto:

 come si può sincronizzare l'orario?



lancia nelle due distribuzioni
date   -u,
così vedi la data in formato Greenwich Mean Time
(dovrebbe essere uguale)

quindi 
date
per vedere la zona oraria

se le zone sono diverse devi accordarle

 


 ciao a tutti
 mirko


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[newbie] testing

2003-06-23 Thread Damian Gatabria

ignore me :o/


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Re: [newbie] XMMS and cdread plugin

2003-06-23 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 2:53 am, Chris wrote:
 On Sunday 22 June 2003 08:31 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
  I feel your pain.  This is an area that ML is very weak in. I don't know
  about other distros. Sound in general is very problematic. I am having
  trouble now with a computer that worked perfectly in all aspects but MP3s
  and in trying to get that working I now can not play anything on xmms.
  Not .wav or .ogg nothing. So I do not know what file I failed to include
  or delete  or really wwhere to look now, but I will keep looking. It
  worked once, it will work again. :  )

 Yea and whats really a pain is that I had the plugin installed before my
 other drive crashed and it worked.  The only thing I can figure is that
 maybe its because I installed a 'cooker' plugin and its incompatable with
 the version of XMMS I have, but I don't see why that won't let it show up
 on the list. Oh well, guess it KsCD for .wav's and XMMS for MP3's

Then why not install the version of CDread on your CDs?

urpme xmms-cdread

to get rid of the Cooker version

urpmi xmms-cdread

to install the one on your CD

rpmfind.net is not going to find anything not available to urpmi except 
Cooker.

As for seeing your playlist :-
To start playing a CD with xmms select PlayDirectory and select /mnt/cdrom
Then you can press the 'PL'  button on the xmms GUI to see the playlist.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] XMMS and cdread plugin

2003-06-23 Thread Derek Jennings
If I can correct myself -
xmms-cdread is not on your CDs it is on the mirrors in Contrib.

I believe I may have mentioned once or twice on this list how to set up a 
Contrib urpmi source :-)

derek

On Monday 23 Jun 2003 7:27 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Monday 23 Jun 2003 2:53 am, Chris wrote:
  On Sunday 22 June 2003 08:31 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
   I feel your pain.  This is an area that ML is very weak in. I don't
   know about other distros. Sound in general is very problematic. I am
   having trouble now with a computer that worked perfectly in all aspects
   but MP3s and in trying to get that working I now can not play anything
   on xmms. Not .wav or .ogg nothing. So I do not know what file I failed
   to include or delete  or really wwhere to look now, but I will keep
   looking. It worked once, it will work again. :  )
 
  Yea and whats really a pain is that I had the plugin installed before my
  other drive crashed and it worked.  The only thing I can figure is that
  maybe its because I installed a 'cooker' plugin and its incompatable with
  the version of XMMS I have, but I don't see why that won't let it show up
  on the list. Oh well, guess it KsCD for .wav's and XMMS for MP3's

 Then why not install the version of CDread on your CDs?

 urpme xmms-cdread

 to get rid of the Cooker version

 urpmi xmms-cdread

 to install the one on your CD

 rpmfind.net is not going to find anything not available to urpmi except
 Cooker.

 As for seeing your playlist :-
 To start playing a CD with xmms select PlayDirectory and select /mnt/cdrom
 Then you can press the 'PL'  button on the xmms GUI to see the playlist.

 HTH

 derek

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[newbie] my computer loves Mandrake, doesn't like WinXP and really hates Slackware

2003-06-23 Thread Beppe
Hello :)
Some time ago I passed to Slackware, which on my old computer used to work 
perfectly (the version is 9). Then one week ago I changed computer and 
something strange happened: when I try to install Slack I get error messages 
saying that LILO cannot install itself on the MBR or on the root partition (I 
tried both). Mandrake is able to install LILO without any problem, while 
WinXP can write on the MBR only if I install it on a NTFS partition (trying 
on a fat32 I just got strange symbols everytime I tried to reboot)

The filesystem I use is Reiser FS which is the same that used to perfectly 
work on the old computer. I tried also Ext3 and Ext2 and nothing changed. The 
Hard disk is a normal Ultra ATA, nothing uncommon... so does anybody know 
what may the problem be?

Thanks for the help,
Giuseppe

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Re: [newbie] Alsa tools RPM for Mdk 9.1

2003-06-23 Thread Brian Parish
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 09:39, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 01:12, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 3:38 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
   9.1 includes alsa, but not the tools.  Does anyone know of a compatible
   rpm for this?  The source tarball from the alsa site complains about
   wrong versions - the usual issues.  I've fought the alsa battle too many
   times in the past - don't want to do it no more.
  
   TIA
   Brian
  
  Do you mean alsa-utils? It is in the distro
  
 Nope.  Utils are OK.  There's another set called tools which includes
 stuff like the multi-channel mixer for the envy24 chipset.  Required for
 full use of the features of some professional cards.
 
A friend tells me that the packages within alsa tools have been
individually packaged as rpms.  This makes sense as you really only need
the mixer app specific to your card.  The one I need is envy24control,
or maybe just envy24.  Haven't found it yet, but I'll have a search for
it tomorrow.

cheers
Brian


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[newbie] Mandrake 9.1 and HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability

2003-06-23 Thread sstubbs
06/23/03

Hello All, from The Other

Last week was very frustrating.  The slave Maxtor drive went back to PC 
Peripherals (this was an OEM drive), so I decided to continue the dual-boot 
Win95B and Mandrake 9.1 system on the remaining master Western Digital 
drive.

Total disaster.  Linux wouldn't install from the Boxed CDs.  Bash, kernel, 
and up to 30 different packages wouldn't install.  Never would boot up.

I think the problem was I had HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability turned on in my 
BIOS.  The Maxtor was a 30GB drive made this year.  The Western Digital 
drive was probably made in 1998 when I did the last hardware upgrades.  I 
don't think the Western Digital drive is HDD S.M.A.R.T Capable.

Eventually (after 5 days I finally went back to Ontrack's Disk Manager and 
MS-Dos 5.0 to get the Western Digital to format in FAT16) I was able to 
install Win95B and Windows NT 4.0.  I then reformatted and got NT 4.0 
running and am using it now.

My guess is that Win95B and NT 4.0 have never heard about HDD S.M.A.R.T 
Capability, and didn't try to write to the Western Digital using it. 
 Whereas Mandrake 9.1 is new and sophisticated enough to know about HDD 
S.M.A.R.T. Capability and was using it to write to a drive that didn't 
support it.  Hence all the problems with Linux files on the Western 
Digital.

Anyone know different?

The Other
(Who now has to learn the Windows Messaging system to communicate with you. 
  Your sympathies please.  On a brighter note, NT 4.0 does recognize the SB 
Live! Value card in all its capabilities. Now I can use my Roland MIDI 
modules without going through the Winman 4x4/s card, for which I never 
found Linux drivers.)


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Re: [newbie] testing

2003-06-23 Thread James R. McKenzie
did you say something?  8-{
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From: Damian Gatabria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:09 AM
Subject: [newbie] testing



 ignore me :o/





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Re: [newbie] Another Help site

2003-06-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 5:18 am, Aron Smith wrote:
 Hey Gang
 Don't Know if you know this link it's interesting
 http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/howtos.html#network

mandrake.tips.4.free.fr is among the many useful sites you will find 
at

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeReferences

Anne

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Re: [newbie] RTCW on linux (well, Mandrake to be more specific)

2003-06-23 Thread JoeHill
On 19 Jun 2003 20:44:41 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 Ok, Femme, Mr. Ron (I don't live in a trailer up a holler) Hall, and
 all the other gamerz; THIS IS BLOODY BRILLIANT.

http://www.planetwolfenstein.com/enemyterritory/guide.shtml

been getting into it much online?

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Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM

2003-06-23 Thread Douglas Bainbridge
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 06:25, Ian Trickett wrote:
 I very much doubt it
 
 http://www.browning.co.uk/
 
 Ian
 

 
  Herman Goering said When I hear the word 'culture', I reach for
  my Browning.
 
  Richard
 
 
 
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Me, too. Schmeissner ? or would that be an anachronism?

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[newbie] changing GNOME themes

2003-06-23 Thread Russ Rollins
Anyone had success changing downloading and installing new themes in
GNOME (Metacity themes that is) in Mandrake 9.1? I've spent an hour or
so on it and can't seem to get it to work using the Theme
configurator...

TIA
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[newbie] Mandrake 9.1 and HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability

2003-06-23 Thread sstubbs
06/23/03

Hello All, from The Other

Last week was very frustrating.  The slave Maxtor drive went back to PC 
Peripherals (this was an OEM drive), so I decided to continue the dual-boot 
Win95B and Mandrake 9.1 system on the remaining master Western Digital 
drive.

Total disaster.  Linux wouldn't install from the Boxed CDs.  Bash, kernel, 
and up to 30 different packages wouldn't install.  Never would boot up.

I think the problem was I had HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability turned on in my 
BIOS.  The Maxtor was a 30GB drive made this year.  The Western Digital 
drive was probably made in 1998 when I did the last hardware upgrades.  I 
don't think the Western Digital drive is HDD S.M.A.R.T Capable.

Eventually (after 5 days I finally went back to Ontrack's Disk Manager and 
MS-Dos 5.0 to get the Western Digital to format in FAT16) I was able to 
install Win95B and Windows NT 4.0.  I then reformatted and got NT 4.0 
running and am using it now.

My guess is that Win95B and NT 4.0 have never heard about HDD S.M.A.R.T 
Capability, and didn't try to write to the Western Digital using it. 
 Whereas Mandrake 9.1 is new and sophisticated enough to know about HDD 
S.M.A.R.T. Capability and was using it to write to a drive that didn't 
support it.  Hence all the problems with Linux files on the Western 
Digital.

Anyone know different?

The Other
(Who now has to learn the Windows Messaging system to communicate with you. 
  Your sympathies please.  On a brighter note, NT 4.0 does recognize the SB 
Live! Value card in all its capabilities. Now I can use my Roland MIDI 
modules without going through the Winman 4x4/s card, for which I never 
found Linux drivers.)


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Re: [newbie] Boot error message

2003-06-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 3:40 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

 Good news: Floppies are becoming extinct. According to the current
 Dell catalog, floppy drives are now extra-cost options! This may
 make sense in a corporate environment, but it strikes me that it is
 certainly going to complicate trouble shooting a standalone home
 PC.
 -- cmg

So a useful tool for your box would be a usb superfloppy.  I think 
they are still available?  Most modern bioses will boot from LS120 
and zip, I think

Anne

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Re: [newbie] my computer loves Mandrake, doesn't like WinXP andreally hates Slackware

2003-06-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:57, Beppe wrote:
 Hello :)
 Some time ago I passed to Slackware, which on my old computer used to work 
 perfectly (the version is 9). Then one week ago I changed computer and 
 something strange happened: when I try to install Slack I get error messages 
 saying that LILO cannot install itself on the MBR or on the root partition (I 
 tried both). Mandrake is able to install LILO without any problem, while 
 WinXP can write on the MBR only if I install it on a NTFS partition (trying 
 on a fat32 I just got strange symbols everytime I tried to reboot)
 
 The filesystem I use is Reiser FS which is the same that used to perfectly 
 work on the old computer. I tried also Ext3 and Ext2 and nothing changed. The 
 Hard disk is a normal Ultra ATA, nothing uncommon... so does anybody know 
 what may the problem be?
 
 Thanks for the help,
 Giuseppe

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

2003-06-23 Thread John Drouhard
On 23 Jun 2003 10:39:36 -0500
Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello yet again John.
 
 This morning when I booted I discovered that I no longer have access to
 my CDRW drive!! I still get the two FAILED entries on boot up but now
 they both end with mount 0 does not exist.
 
 I checked my /dev directory and found no listing for either /hdb
 or/scd1. However in my /mnt directory I find cdrw, cdrom, scd1, and
 scd0.
 

That is beyond me. Since I have 2 CD's which are both scsi emulated and
working properly, Here is your fstab with MY fstab's two cdrom entries.
Try this fstab, if that still doesn't work, delete the supermount word
from both lines and try again. If you do delete the supoermount word
from fstab, you have to type mount -a as root to get them to mount
(There will be an error if you don't have a cd in both drives. You DON'T
need to mount a blank cdr for burning.  Anyway, here it is:

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,unhide,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount 
dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 

I suggest that when it is working properly, immediately back up your
stuff before you shut your computer down. Then, you can do a full
install of Mandrake 9.1.

John Drouhard


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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

2003-06-23 Thread Langsley T Russell
Hello yet again John.

This morning when I booted I discovered that I no longer have access to
my CDRW drive!! I still get the two FAILED entries on boot up but now
they both end with mount 0 does not exist.

I checked my /dev directory and found no listing for either /hdb
or/scd1. However in my /mnt directory I find cdrw, cdrom, scd1, and
scd0.

Here'a my lilo.conf as it currently appears.

 boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
nowarn
timeout=150
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=failsafe devfs=nomount
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

and my fstab:

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/cdrom supermount
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/cdrw supermount
dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0
0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 

I still do not understand why my CDRW is there once or twice then
disappears. Yesterday I did a cold boot to make sure the CDRW was still
there and it was!! Then I logged off and shut down my computer for the
night. When I booted this morning my CDRW was inaccessible and has
disappeared from my Mandrake control center hardware list. Can anybody
tell me precisely why this keeps happening? And how I can prevent it in
the future?!?!

LTR  }}:{(

On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 15:31, John Drouhard wrote:

 Since your cd drives are working, I suggest you backup all your data,
 then upgrade to 9.1 doing a fresh install. Then everything will be fixed
 (Also, 9.1 automatically sets up SCSI emulation for detected burners). 
 
 Hope you get it working!
 
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Re: [newbie] RTCW on linux (well, Mandrake to be more specific)

2003-06-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:05, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 16:01, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 23:44, ed tharp wrote:
  
   yep, channel #2 bridge, right near Holiday Isle.
  
  Funny it's been literally 20 years since being down that way and I still
  remember it so clearly. I was recently attempting to describe snorkeling
  around Turkey Point to some people - strange, that.
 Got a T-shirt down that way says ..Everyone Needs A Little Nukie (Turkey
 Point Nuclear Power Plant)

Somewhere, buried amongst my crap somewhere, is a Conch Republic
t-shirt...now, if anyone has any questions concerning my originality as
a yank, that's one way to verify I've been there done that...

Just wish I could find it...(it's varnish/teak oil stained, heaps of
burn holes and the likes).

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?

2003-06-23 Thread Crak600 - Michael
ok, since my new ram showed up this morning (system is now up to 768MB), i 
decided it was time to install the ram and the hard drive.  opened up the 
computer to check where everything was on the ribbons and see where i'm going 
to plug in the hard drive.  the current hard drive and CDRW are on the same 
ribbon (havn't checked to see which is slave and which is master yet). from 
the posts others have left about data transferring from one drive to the next 
and bottlenecking, i figure the best way to set this up is to put the new 
hard drive as a slave to the floppy drive.  well, the connector on the ribbon 
for the floppy drive isn't the right size for the new hard drive, and the 
ribbon the CDRW and other hard drive are on only has 2 connections.  so i 
have to go out and buy a new ribbon.  figures!

my only other possibility is to use the 3rd IDE connection on the motherboard, 
BUT, the motherboard wasn't new when i got it.  bought it from a friend who 
assembled the computer for me.  he tried to put the floppy, hard drive, and 
cdrw drive each on their own ribbon, but said the 3rd ribbon port on the 
motherboard wouldn't work.  he couldn't figure out why.  i can try to use it, 
but he took his time putting the computer together and couldn't get it to 
work no matter what he tried.  i'll have to wait 3 more weeks til he gets 
back from his honeymoon to get into detail with him on everything he tried.

i've decided the best way to set everything up is to leave linux where it is 
on the 20GB drive.  the drive was partitioned for me into 5 and 15gb 
sections.  i partitioned out 5gb for mandrake 9.1, there's still 10GB left on 
that partition.  when i put the 100gb drive in, i'm going to leave it all 
open for sharing between win and linux, and i'm still able to expand to give 
linux 15GB to run on the other drive, and in the future if for some reason i 
was doing things exclusively in linux that i needed to keep separate from 
windows (video editing most likely) i can partition off more spaec on the 
100gb drive for that.  any comments?

guess it's a good thing i started this thread, as there've been multiple 
questions asked on the same subject.  thanks for all the input from everyone 
so far!

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Re: [newbie] RTCW on linux (well, Mandrake to be more specific)

2003-06-23 Thread ed tharp
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 08:05, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 16:01, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 23:44, ed tharp wrote:
  
   yep, channel #2 bridge, right near Holiday Isle.
  
  Funny it's been literally 20 years since being down that way and I still
  remember it so clearly. I was recently attempting to describe snorkeling
  around Turkey Point to some people - strange, that.
 Got a T-shirt down that way says ..Everyone Needs A Little Nukie (Turkey
 Point Nuclear Power Plant)
 
 
I used to do all of Turkey Point's Forklift repair, when I worked for
Caterpillar, until (after they had shut down the reactor due to a
radioactive steam leak that went on for 8 month inside the containment
building) they brought a truck out to me, and after I watched the
contract guards sweep it with a Gieger counter, and then resweep the
forks area. when they brought it to where I was, they said it's clean,
but try and stay away from the forks. I had already decided that the
type of person working in the nuclear power industry was the kind of
person much more worried about covering their butt than getting the
job done right, so I decided right then that they could bring that
forklift up to the shop in Miami before _I_ worked on it. WHen my
Supervisor told me I _HAD_ to do turkey point's work, I quit working for
the Caterpillar Dealer (well, gave 2 weeks notice)

ET


 
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Re: [newbie] RTCW on linux (well, Mandrake to be more specific)

2003-06-23 Thread ed tharp
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 06:23, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:05, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 16:01, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 23:44, ed tharp wrote:
   
yep, channel #2 bridge, right near Holiday Isle.
   
   Funny it's been literally 20 years since being down that way and I still
   remember it so clearly. I was recently attempting to describe snorkeling
   around Turkey Point to some people - strange, that.
  Got a T-shirt down that way says ..Everyone Needs A Little Nukie (Turkey
  Point Nuclear Power Plant)
 
 Somewhere, buried amongst my crap somewhere, is a Conch Republic
 t-shirt...now, if anyone has any questions concerning my originality as
 a yank, that's one way to verify I've been there done that...
 
 Just wish I could find it...(it's varnish/teak oil stained, heaps of
 burn holes and the likes).

sounds like the one on the floor in my room,,, sorry,,,I used it to wipe
up a gas spill last weekend. 


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Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday June 22 2003 09:19 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 Copying from any medium to another is faster if they are on
 different busses.. or IDE connectors.

   They're still all on one bus no matter how many ide connections 
you have, the one and only PCI bus.  Generally the only 'rule' is 
to not to put a CD drive (or CD-RW), on the same cable as a HDD.
So if you have 2 HDD's, and one or more CD drives, the HDD's go on 
ide0, and the CD drive(s) on ide1.  Some report adding another 
controller (not onboard), and separating all the drives, one to a 
ide channel, improves performance. Still, they're all on the one 
PCI bus.

   The PCI bus is ancient in computer terms, over 10 years since it 
replaced the VL-bus. There's improvement on the horizon. Several 
competing scenarios, but the one that seems to be gaining the most 
favor is PCI-X, or sometimes called PCI Express. Still the gain is 
only from PCI's theoretical 133mb/sec, to 200mb/sec. Real world 
sustained transfers are at best half the theoretical rate, usually 
much less than half. The PCI bus has other duties besides handling 
all ide connections.
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Re: [newbie] This ROCKS

2003-06-23 Thread Warren Post
El sáb, 21-06-2003 a las 10:09, Derek Jennings escribió:
 Question for you Warren
 
 Why choose LEAF Dachstein as opposed to LEAF Bering ?

Simply because Dachstein was the first I looked at, I liked it, and
jumped right in. I have since heard good things about Bering so I can't
recommend one over the other.

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Re: [newbie] my computer loves Mandrake, doesn't like WinXP and really hates Slackware

2003-06-23 Thread Beppe
Alle 12:20, lunedì 23 giugno 2003, Stephen Kuhn ha scritto:
 On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:57, Beppe wrote:
  Hello :)
  Some time ago I passed to Slackware, which on my old computer used to
  work perfectly (the version is 9). Then one week ago I changed computer
  and something strange happened: when I try to install Slack I get error
  messages saying that LILO cannot install itself on the MBR or on the root
  partition (I tried both). Mandrake is able to install LILO without any
  problem, while WinXP can write on the MBR only if I install it on a NTFS
  partition (trying on a fat32 I just got strange symbols everytime I tried
  to reboot)
 
  The filesystem I use is Reiser FS which is the same that used to
  perfectly work on the old computer. I tried also Ext3 and Ext2 and
  nothing changed. The Hard disk is a normal Ultra ATA, nothing uncommon...
  so does anybody know what may the problem be?
 
  Thanks for the help,
  Giuseppe

 I think your computer is smart.
 It KNOWS what it wants to run, ya?

I can understand he does not like XP but what about poor slackware? :) It's 
not such a bad distro after all (even if packages are managed in such a way 
that calling awful would still be a compliment)

Giuseppe

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Re: [newbie] slypheed installed

2003-06-23 Thread Todd Slater
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 09:36:36PM -0700, eric huff wrote:
 Ok, installed.  I like the speed, etc, but it seems a little klunky 
 for reading mail.
 
 I figured out that hitting enter scrolls the mail down so you can 
 read lower, but if you need to go back up, the only way i can see 
 to do it is to use the mouse.
 
 Is this right?  Is there any way to make page down, or the arrows 
 keys always work in the mail window w/o first clicking in it?

The space bar will page down in the message view. If you reach the end
of the message and hit space again, it goes to the next message. IIRC
that is the next message whether it's read or unread--to get to the next
unread you can do shift + n.

To page back up in a message, use the backspace key.

I always want to use page up and down keys for that, it just take a
little while to get used to. But it's pretty common if you're familiar
with mutt and slrn.

Also, I think you can easily customize your keybindings a la rox: mouse
over the menu entry and hit keys on keyboard.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] how to config the lilo?

2003-06-23 Thread John Drouhard
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:56:28 +0800
Xuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My system is mdk 9.1. Today my friend brought his harddisk here , with a 
 winxp in it.
 After it connected , the xp system is in /dev/hdd2 .
 Now I think maybe I can modify my lilo.conf so I can start xp from the 
 lilo menu? What should I do?
 
 Thanks in advance. :)
 
 
 
Add these lines to lilo.conf:

other=/dev/hdd2
label=windows
table=/dev/hdd
unsafe

HTH,
John Drouhard

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?

2003-06-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 5:27 pm, Crak600 - Michael wrote:
 ok, since my new ram showed up this morning (system is now up to
 768MB), i decided it was time to install the ram and the hard
 drive.  opened up the computer to check where everything was on the
 ribbons and see where i'm going to plug in the hard drive.  the
 current hard drive and CDRW are on the same ribbon (havn't checked
 to see which is slave and which is master yet). from the posts
 others have left about data transferring from one drive to the next
 and bottlenecking, i figure the best way to set this up is to put
 the new hard drive as a slave to the floppy drive.  well, the
 connector on the ribbon for the floppy drive isn't the right size
 for the new hard drive, and the ribbon the CDRW and other hard
 drive are on only has 2 connections.  so i have to go out and buy a
 new ribbon.  figures!

Hold it - you can't put a hdd on a floppy connector - that's why the 
cable is a different size - it has fewer wires.

 my only other possibility is to use the 3rd IDE connection on the
 motherboard, BUT, the motherboard wasn't new when i got it.  bought
 it from a friend who assembled the computer for me.  he tried to
 put the floppy, hard drive, and cdrw drive each on their own
 ribbon, but said the 3rd ribbon port on the motherboard wouldn't
 work.  he couldn't figure out why.  i can try to use it, but he
 took his time putting the computer together and couldn't get it to
 work no matter what he tried.  i'll have to wait 3 more weeks til
 he gets back from his honeymoon to get into detail with him on
 everything he tried.

You could try the other connector again - Make sure that you have the 
jumper set to 'master' and the bios set to auto-detect for each 
drive.  Check whether the bios is seeing the drive.

Another ribbon will not help you - 2 devices per ribbon is your max.  
What might help is an add-on pci card that will give you additional 
drive connectors.

Anne

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[newbie] how to config the lilo?

2003-06-23 Thread Xuer
My system is mdk 9.1. Today my friend brought his harddisk here , with a 
winxp in it.
After it connected , the xp system is in /dev/hdd2 .
Now I think maybe I can modify my lilo.conf so I can start xp from the 
lilo menu? What should I do?

Thanks in advance. :)


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Re: Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag

2003-06-23 Thread Jim Dawson
Actually, SCO just wants to jack up it's stock price and/or get bought out. They've 
succeede (temporarally) on the first part, I don't think the second is going to happen 
anytime soon.

I think I am going to file a suit against SCO for infringing my IP on a device called 
a 'Wheel' which is used by SCO in the distribution of their products, and a process 
called 'breathing' in which oxygen is introduced into the body and carbon dioxide is 
released. Hell, I bet that Mr. McBride breathes and even has a few wheels on his desk 
chair! I bet he's been breathing for his entire life but I have yet to receive a 
single royalty check! (This makes only slightly less sense than claiming Linux is 
infringing on SCOs IP for SMP, JFS, and NUMA...)

-Original Message-
From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:54:39 -0400
Subject: Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag

On Saturday 21 June 2003 06:49 pm, JoeHill graced me with:
 http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1018669.html

 It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO.

SCO and M$ want Linux to die. Sun just wants to take advantage of the
FUD to steal some business from IBM. There's a significant difference.

Mike





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Re: [newbie] Boot error message

2003-06-23 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 23 June 2003 05:15 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Monday 23 Jun 2003 3:40 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  Good news: Floppies are becoming extinct. According to the current
  Dell catalog, floppy drives are now extra-cost options! This may
  make sense in a corporate environment, but it strikes me that it is
  certainly going to complicate trouble shooting a standalone home
  PC.
  -- cmg

 So a useful tool for your box would be a usb superfloppy.  I think
 they are still available?  Most modern bioses will boot from LS120
 and zip, I think

 Anne

Anne:
Good point, and something that the laptop folks have learned to do. However, I 
still like the idea of a $10 floppy drive and a small stack of disks with 
various recovery tools on them. Floppies may be slow, and their limited 
capacity is a real pain, but they are simple, robust and nearly universal -- 
at least in the home/SOHO desktop realm.

Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes wrong. #2 
Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time just figuring how 
to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use toolset while assorted 
grandchildren incessantly repeat that they want to help Grampa. Rinse and 
repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son.
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Re: [newbie] Boot error message

2003-06-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 6:25 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Monday 23 June 2003 05:15 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Monday 23 Jun 2003 3:40 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
   Good news: Floppies are becoming extinct. According to the
   current Dell catalog, floppy drives are now extra-cost options!
   This may make sense in a corporate environment, but it strikes
   me that it is certainly going to complicate trouble shooting a
   standalone home PC.
   -- cmg
 
  So a useful tool for your box would be a usb superfloppy.  I
  think they are still available?  Most modern bioses will boot
  from LS120 and zip, I think
 
  Anne

 Anne:
 Good point, and something that the laptop folks have learned to do.
 However, I still like the idea of a $10 floppy drive and a small
 stack of disks with various recovery tools on them. Floppies may be
 slow, and their limited capacity is a real pain, but they are
 simple, robust and nearly universal -- at least in the home/SOHO
 desktop realm.

 Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes
 wrong. #2 Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time
 just figuring how to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use
 toolset while assorted grandchildren incessantly repeat that they
 want to help Grampa. Rinse and repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son.
 -- cmg

Know the feeling g  I know they're not fashionable, but I wouldn't 
be without my LS120.  It reads standard floppies as well as the 120MB 
disks, so it would still do what you want.  Oops - I sound as though 
I work for Imation g

Anne

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Re: [newbie] webmin

2003-06-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 5:30 pm, Warren Post wrote:
 El sáb, 21-06-2003 a las 10:54, Tsyko escribió:
  How do I launch webmin??

 Launch your favorite web browser and enter the URL:
 https://localhost:1/

 I can never remember this, so I have it bookmarked.

the 's' in https is important - it's a secure connection

Anne

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[newbie] UDF formatting?

2003-06-23 Thread Paul
Hi everyone,

I am trying to format a CDRW to UDF.
I installed the UDFtools, and run

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] paul]# mkudffs /dev/scd0

Which tells me:

 trying to change type of multiple extents

What does this mean? I have commented out the CDRW device from
/etc/fstab but that does not help...

Paul

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Re: [newbie] No response on questions

2003-06-23 Thread Paul
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:56, Björn Olsson wrote:
 Which immediately leads me to another question: How does my name show up
 in foreign, i.e. non swedish, mail readers? There should be two dots
 above the o. Sylpheed will probably send this letter as quoted
 printable because of that letter. Does it matter? Should I spell my name
 Bjoern?
 Björn

No Problem. You are known as Björn, dear Bjoern.  ;-)
Paul
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Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?

2003-06-23 Thread FemmeFatale
At 01:46 AM 6/23/2003 -0400, you wrote:
snip
Just my mileage :-)
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you just like bucking the system! :D

glad it works for ya though.
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Re: [newbie] Alsa tools RPM for Mdk 9.1

2003-06-23 Thread FemmeFatale
At 12:56 AM 6/21/2003 +1000, you wrote:
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 09:39, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 01:12, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 3:38 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
   9.1 includes alsa, but not the tools.  Does anyone know of a compatible
   rpm for this?  The source tarball from the alsa site complains about
   wrong versions - the usual issues.  I've fought the alsa battle too 
many
   times in the past - don't want to do it no more.
  
   TIA
   Brian
 
  Do you mean alsa-utils? It is in the distro
 
 Nope.  Utils are OK.  There's another set called tools which includes
 stuff like the multi-channel mixer for the envy24 chipset.  Required for
 full use of the features of some professional cards.

A friend tells me that the packages within alsa tools have been
individually packaged as rpms.  This makes sense as you really only need
the mixer app specific to your card.  The one I need is envy24control,
or maybe just envy24.  Haven't found it yet, but I'll have a search for
it tomorrow.

cheers
Brian
5 mins on google:  http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/cooker/Sound.html

how to google for this: 
http://www.google.com/linux?hl=enlr=ie=ISO-8859-1q=%22Envy24%22btnG=Google+Search

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Re: [newbie] No response on questions

2003-06-23 Thread N. B. Day
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 15:56, Björn Olsson wrote:
  On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:50:23 -0600 FemmeFatale
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  snips  yanks Bjorn outta his closet! NO CLOSSETING ALLOWED! Once
  you're OUT you're OUT!
 snip
  
  Check its permissions  make sure they are set for USER  that you now
  own it using chown as a user.  Thats my best answer... :)
  
  -
  FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
 snip
 
 
 But I LIKE my closet!  sulking
 
 But you're right, It's probably more rewarding to participate in the
 discussion than to quietly wait for the interesting bits to trickle in.
 My main problem is that it's a pain in the a** to use this queer
 language :)
 Which immediately leads me to another question: How does my name show up
 in foreign, i.e. non swedish, mail readers? There should be two dots
 above the o. Sylpheed will probably send this letter as quoted
 printable because of that letter. Does it matter? Should I spell my name
 Bjoern?
 
 Also, thanks a lot for the tip on ET. I'll have a look into it.
 
 --
 Björn

Looks good here in evolution, Bear.  That's one of the few words of
baby-talk Swedish my grandparents taught me that I can remember from 50
years ago.

This queer language is really a pidgin: Germanic structure and
vocabulary with Frenchified fancy words.  Nobody could agree on grammar
or what gender nouns should have, so we just gave all that up.  Must be
hard to learn

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Re: [newbie] testing

2003-06-23 Thread FemmeFatale
At 03:09 AM 6/23/2003 -0300, you wrote:
ignore me :o/
aw must we!? But you're so cute!
-
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Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
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[newbie] sensors

2003-06-23 Thread John Richard Smith
I have lm_sensors-2.7.0-2mdk installed

Every time I shut down I get error message,
/etc/rc0.d/k971_ ?line 73  error, too few arguments.
here is the section.

   modules=`grep \^MODULE_ $CONFIG | wc -l`
   i=`expr$Pmodules`
   while [ $i -ge 0 ] ; doline 73 
   module=`eval echo '$'MODULE_$i`
   /sbin/modprobe -r $module /dev/null
   i=`expr $i - 1`
   done
Can anyone help here ?

I cannot understand it let alone do something with it

John

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Re: [newbie] slypheed installed

2003-06-23 Thread eric huff
 The space bar will page down in the message view. If you reach the end
 of the message and hit space again, it goes to the next message. IIRC
 that is the next message whether it's read or unread--to get to the next
 unread you can do shift + n.

On mine, it goes to the next unread message..

 To page back up in a message, use the backspace key.

Ok, that's cool.  I even read the docs for the area of reading mail, but
didn't see that. Porbably just missed it.

 Also, I think you can easily customize your keybindings a la rox: mouse
 over the menu entry and hit keys on keyboard.

Yeah, that is cool. It works mostly, but sometimes instead of setting the
value of the item, it just runs the item.  But the menu rc file is easy
enough to edit...

The backspace key is the big gem, though. :)  I'll try that when i get home.

Thanks for the help,
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Re: [newbie] Boot error message

2003-06-23 Thread FemmeFatale
At 06:33 PM 6/23/2003 +0100, you wrote:
snips a rattlesnakes rattler! OHH!
 Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes
 wrong. #2 Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time
 just figuring how to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use
 toolset while assorted grandchildren incessantly repeat that they
 want to help Grampa. Rinse and repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son.
 -- cmg
Know the feeling g  I know they're not fashionable, but I wouldn't
be without my LS120.  It reads standard floppies as well as the 120MB
disks, so it would still do what you want.  Oops - I sound as though
I work for Imation g
Anne


Wake up OLD PEOPLE!  Its called DISK ON KEY!  HELLO?!  USB keys?  you 
know?? recognized as a floppy device by bioses now? ;D
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 and HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability

2003-06-23 Thread FemmeFatale
At 07:49 AM 6/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:
SNIPs some hummingbirds ... you finish the thought...

My guess is that Win95B and NT 4.0 have never heard about HDD S.M.A.R.T
Capability, and didn't try to write to the Western Digital using it.
 Whereas Mandrake 9.1 is new and sophisticated enough to know about HDD
S.M.A.R.T. Capability and was using it to write to a drive that didn't
support it.  Hence all the problems with Linux files on the Western
Digital.
Anyone know different?

The Other
I know nothing about MIDI So i won't address that.  But your presumption is 
correct about the HDD.

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Re: [newbie] No response on questions

2003-06-23 Thread FemmeFatale
At 08:56 PM 6/23/2003 +, you wrote:
snip
But I LIKE my closet!  sulking
But you're right, It's probably more rewarding to participate in the
discussion than to quietly wait for the interesting bits to trickle in.
My main problem is that it's a pain in the a** to use this queer
language :)
Which immediately leads me to another question: How does my name show up
in foreign, i.e. non swedish, mail readers? There should be two dots
above the o. Sylpheed will probably send this letter as quoted
printable because of that letter. Does it matter? Should I spell my name
Bjoern?
Also, thanks a lot for the tip on ET. I'll have a look into it.

--
Björn
Shows up as an o with a line over it for me... but i'm in XP.

-
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We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
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RE: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?

2003-06-23 Thread Dennis . R . Myers
Title: RE: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?





Sorry if this shows up as HTML. But have to ask if you have checked the bios and made sure that ide2 is active. One or the other of the ide connections can be turned off in bios. The ide buss is what your hard drive ribbons connect to on the motherboard. HTH Dennis M.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?



On Monday 23 Jun 2003 5:27 pm, Crak600 - Michael wrote:
 ok, since my new ram showed up this morning (system is now up to
 768MB), i decided it was time to install the ram and the hard
 drive. opened up the computer to check where everything was on the
 ribbons and see where i'm going to plug in the hard drive. the
 current hard drive and CDRW are on the same ribbon (havn't checked
 to see which is slave and which is master yet). from the posts
 others have left about data transferring from one drive to the next
 and bottlenecking, i figure the best way to set this up is to put
 the new hard drive as a slave to the floppy drive. well, the
 connector on the ribbon for the floppy drive isn't the right size
 for the new hard drive, and the ribbon the CDRW and other hard
 drive are on only has 2 connections. so i have to go out and buy a
 new ribbon. figures!

Hold it - you can't put a hdd on a floppy connector - that's why the 
cable is a different size - it has fewer wires.


 my only other possibility is to use the 3rd IDE connection on the
 motherboard, BUT, the motherboard wasn't new when i got it. bought
 it from a friend who assembled the computer for me. he tried to
 put the floppy, hard drive, and cdrw drive each on their own
 ribbon, but said the 3rd ribbon port on the motherboard wouldn't
 work. he couldn't figure out why. i can try to use it, but he
 took his time putting the computer together and couldn't get it to
 work no matter what he tried. i'll have to wait 3 more weeks til
 he gets back from his honeymoon to get into detail with him on
 everything he tried.

You could try the other connector again - Make sure that you have the 
jumper set to 'master' and the bios set to auto-detect for each 
drive. Check whether the bios is seeing the drive.


Another ribbon will not help you - 2 devices per ribbon is your max. 
What might help is an add-on pci card that will give you additional 
drive connectors.


Anne





Re[2]: [newbie] [Fwd: [Mandrake Off Topic] LICQ/Dynamically opening ports in Linksys router]

2003-06-23 Thread FemmeFatale
At 11:44 AM 6/23/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hello Technoslick,
SNIPs some puppy dog tails
I've been snooping, as time permits. There are SI firewalls available,
but I have yet to find an app-aware linux fw. It seems as though the
fw's are based on iptables (a kernel function, as I understand it),
and iptables does not include the capability of being app-aware.
If this is not correct, or if any of you experts have a better picture
of this, please let me know. Still learnin...
--
Thank you,
 rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AFAIK there are no SI FW's available for doing app aware targeting... a 
proxy MAY be able to be configured to do so...but it is beyond my humble 
knowledge as to how this would be accomplished.

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We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 and HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability

2003-06-23 Thread FemmeFatale
At 02:19 PM 6/23/2003 -0400, you wrote:
On Monday 23 June 2003 08:34 am, sstubbs wrote:

 Anyone know different?

Don't know if it has anything to do with your problems at all, but Civileme
used to say to avoid WD drives like the plague... claimed they did not do CRC
stuff right, especially at higher DMA/UDMA levels :-(
--

  /\
 DarkLord
  \/
Someone on the OT list was saying that isn't the case anymore... SOmeone 
care to post a URL to dis/prove this?  I have a WD here in my comp now... 
it was cheap, i'm poor... i'm using the maxtor for linux though.  I may 
experiment after all...

on a side note, one partition got toasted by windows jsut this last week... 
don't know why.  Guess which drive it was on?

-
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We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
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Re: [newbie] No response on questions

2003-06-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 8:28 pm, N. B. Day wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 15:56, Björn Olsson wrote:
  Which immediately leads me to another question: How does my name
  show up in foreign, i.e. non swedish, mail readers? There should
  be two dots above the o. Sylpheed will probably send this letter
  as quoted printable because of that letter. Does it matter?
  Should I spell my name Bjoern?
 

 Looks good here in evolution, Bear. 

No problem here in kmail with English GB set.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] sensors

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday June 23 2003 02:48 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 I have lm_sensors-2.7.0-2mdk installed

 Every time I shut down I get error message,
 /etc/rc0.d/k971_ ?line 73  error, too few arguments.

 here is the section.

 modules=`grep \^MODULE_ $CONFIG | wc -l`
 i=`expr$Pmodules`
 while [ $i -ge 0 ] ; doline
 73  module=`eval echo '$'MODULE_$i`
 /sbin/modprobe -r $module /dev/null
 i=`expr $i - 1`
 done

 Can anyone help here ?

 I cannot understand it let alone do something with it

 John

   It's NBFD, just ignore it. Or you can search the cooker archive 
an find out which char (typo) to remove from line 73 to quiet the 
error mesg. I don't bother, I just ignore it.  BTW, it's an 
lm-sensors bug, not Mandrake's.  I believe, IIRC, it as simple as 
removing the 'P' in   i=`expr$Pmodules` an maybe add'n a space, ie,
i=`expr $modules`
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[newbie] Mplayer

2003-06-23 Thread DrewMartin
Hello All,
  I tried to install Mplayer from the mplayer website,but ended
up going round in circles(using the RPM's for Redhat),i.e. one would not
install without the other,but could not install the other one first.
  Went to the Mandrake site the only RPM's where on the club
site,which I can not afford to join at this moment in time.I don't want to
try using Tarball's quite yet,because my base Linux skills are not that good
yet.
 Can any one help me to find a version of Mplayer that will work
with MDK 9.1,but does not take loads of knowledge to install.
   Cheers,
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Re: [newbie] Mplayer

2003-06-23 Thread Robin Turner
DrewMartin wrote:
Hello All,
  I tried to install Mplayer from the mplayer website,but ended
up going round in circles(using the RPM's for Redhat),i.e. one would not
install without the other,but could not install the other one first.
  Went to the Mandrake site the only RPM's where on the club
site,which I can not afford to join at this moment in time.I don't want to
try using Tarball's quite yet,because my base Linux skills are not that good
yet.
 Can any one help me to find a version of Mplayer that will work
with MDK 9.1,but does not take loads of knowledge to install.
You oculd try the alternative RPM sites like Texstar.  However, if you 
have circular dependency problems, one thing that might work is to put 
all the RPMs in a directory, cd to that directory, then do

urpmi ./*

Sir Robin

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makes for a more interesting movie plot than some guy writing device
drivers. It's hard to work in a good 10-minutes car chase scene with some
guy who writes device drivers... - tjc, post to LWN
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Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM

2003-06-23 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Monday 23 June 2003 11:10 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:

snip
 Me, too. Schmeissner ? or would that be an anachronism?
/snip

*When I hear the word culture, I reach for my revolver.*

The full quotation is: Wenn ich Kultur hre ... entsichere ich 
meinen Browning. It comes from Hanns Johst's most famous play, 
Schlageter (first performed in April 1933, for Hitler's 
birthday) and occurs in Act 1, Scene 1. The character who says 
the line is called Thiemann.  

This is usually translated as Whenever I hear the word 
culture... I release the safety-catch of my Browning! 

From the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations entry for Johst, Hanns 
(1890 - 1978) German playwright.

HTH

Kaj Haulrich (who happens to trust IBM).
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Re: [newbie] Mplayer

2003-06-23 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:06:49 +0300
Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 You oculd try the alternative RPM sites like Texstar.  However, if
 you have circular dependency problems, one thing that might work is to
 put all the RPMs in a directory, cd to that directory, then do

or

1. Go here and configure all your souces:

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php

2. then as root, urpmi gmplayer

this should install everything you need automagically.

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+ God forbid the FBI go after dangerous criminals ... 
+ I feel much safer with pot smokers and warez
+ kiddies behind bars.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 and HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday June 23 2003 02:57 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 Don't know if it has anything to do with your problems at all,
  but Civileme used to say to avoid WD drives like the plague...
  claimed they did not do CRC stuff right, especially at higher
  DMA/UDMA levels :-(
/\
   DarkLord
\/

 Someone on the OT list was saying that isn't the case anymore...
 SOmeone care to post a URL to dis/prove this?  I have a WD here
 in my comp now... it was cheap, i'm poor... i'm using the maxtor
 for linux though.  I may experiment after all...

 on a side note, one partition got toasted by windows jsut this
 last week... don't know why.  Guess which drive it was on?

No idea, Winsux handles drives very sloppily (pci/ide/buffer, 
etc.)  Most of the time without complaint when it should, sometimes 
utter disaster when there shouldn't be one. A lot of M$ users think 
they got infected by a virus, when all that's happened is Billy 
fsck'd their HDD (among other things ;) by corruption. Time to 
re-install ;)

   As to WD drives and CRC checking, Yes, from reading current lkml 
this is still the case.  YMMV, search 'wd drive' (and such) on lkml
  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelr=1w=2
for your own take.  I believe civileme's advice is still very valid, 
avoid win-drives that WD markets.  He was more adamant on this than 
me tho. Only WD's since August 1998 are very suspect IMO. WD CRC 
checks continue to be invalid. They're win-drives (since 8/98).

   BUT, while only WD is accused of non-standard CRC, all drives 
made by anybody, are sort'a at risk. IMO, they've all gone down 
hill dependability wise.  Maxtor's are probly currently the most 
attractive alternative. As an ol'time overclocker I never would a 
thought I'd say that. Maxtor is known to be one of the worst for 
handlin off spec PCI bus speeds. 'Course hardly anything will 
anymore, SCSI never would ;)

   As to the subject, SMART, I believe y'all would be better off 
disabling this useless marketing gimick. When it does manage to 
work, it's already too late most all the time, and it will 
constantly impose an overhead on IDE transfers while it's enabled. 
Periodic checks with Linux tools when you suspect HDD problems are 
much better. You can use all of 'em with SMART disabled in bios. 
One is hddtemp, hddtemp-0.3-0.beta4.2mdk  (that's cooker, but I 
believe it's available for older Mandrake versions). Reads HDD temp 
from SMART capable drives, without SMART bios B$
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Re: [newbie] Boot error message

2003-06-23 Thread Richard Urwin
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 8:59 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 Wake up OLD PEOPLE!  Its called DISK ON KEY!  HELLO?!  USB keys?  you
 know?? recognized as a floppy device by bioses now? ;D

They're not old people unless they've compiled a *nix kernel to 8 inch 
floppy.

(yes, I have, and for those who assume I mean 5 1/4: I don't)
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Re: [newbie] Mplayer

2003-06-23 Thread Miark
Drew,

1) Configure a Texstar source for urpmi:

   urpmi.addmedia texstar 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms/ with 
./synthesis.hdlist.cz

2) Use urpmi to install mplayer:

   urpmi mplayer

3) Enjoy!

Miark


On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:12:32 +0100
DrewMartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello All,
   I tried to install Mplayer from the mplayer website,but ended
 up going round in circles(using the RPM's for Redhat),i.e. one would not
 install without the other,but could not install the other one first.
   Went to the Mandrake site the only RPM's where on the club
 site,which I can not afford to join at this moment in time.I don't want to
 try using Tarball's quite yet,because my base Linux skills are not that good
 yet.
  Can any one help me to find a version of Mplayer that will work
 with MDK 9.1,but does not take loads of knowledge to install.
Cheers,
 Drew
 
 
 

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Re: [newbie] sensors

2003-06-23 Thread Richard Urwin
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 9:33 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:

It's NBFD, just ignore it. 

One I haven't seen before. Google thought it was the New Boston Fire 
Department, but http://www.kelseypub.com/irc/abbrev.shtml put me 
straight.

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Re: [newbie] Configuring Ethenet LAN card

2003-06-23 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 10:33 pm, Bela Markus wrote:
 Hi,

 how can I control a LAN card? This is automatically starts in
 100Mbpw/fulldup mode, but I have to switch it back to half dup and/or
 10Mbps because of the high error rate.

 Thanks.. Bela

Depends on the driver. Some drivers accept options which you can put in your 
/etc/modules.conf
Look here http://www.scyld.com/network/

To force a card into a particular mode other than through driver options 
install the net-tools RPM The command you need is 'mii-tool' (See 'man 
mii-tool')

You can always put an mii-tool command in your /etc/rc.local if you want to 
force it to a particular mode on boot. 

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Mplayer

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday June 23 2003 03:12 pm, DrewMartin wrote:
 Hello All,
   I tried to install Mplayer from the mplayer
 website,but ended up going round in circles(using the RPM's for
 Redhat),i.e. one would not install without the other,but could
 not install the other one first.

   That was your first mistake. Always look for Mandrake rpms first. 
They're always the best fit for your system. Avoid, generic, other 
distro rpms, and (any) tarballs ... for anything.

 Went to the Mandrake site the 
 only RPM's where on the club site,which I can not afford to join
 at this moment in time.

   mplayer, tho not full featured (questionable legal issues) is on 
your CD's. The full featured Mandrake, an probly illegal, ones you 
can get from   http://plf.zarb.org/

 I don't want to try using Tarball's quite 
 yet,because my base Linux skills are not that good yet.
  Can any one help me to find a version of Mplayer
 that will work with MDK 9.1,but does not take loads of knowledge
 to install. Cheers,

   Use   http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/  to make a PLF source, 
disable your CD's as source (Software Sources Manager), and then 
use rpmdrake or 'urpmi' from the CL to get mplayer and it's 
supporting Mandrake rpms. You didn't say what you wanna play, but 
it won't hurt to get everything. Then you can play anything ;)
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[newbie] 9.1/Speedtouch problems

2003-06-23 Thread mooney
Hi,

I re-installed Mandrake 9.1  am having trouble getting Alcatel 
Speedtouch working (managed to get it working prior to re-install).

mgmt.o is installed. Speedtouch rpm is installed. Set up for 
connection to internet at boot. Both lights are green.

I followed Michel's intructions on the Mandrake users board pages for 

configeration of pap-secrets, etc. but still unable to connect.

I'm waiting for provider to supply me with the ethernet card I 
requested when I took subscription but need to connect now. Any 
help/advice would be appreciated. 

Paul M.

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[newbie] Configuring Ethenet LAN card

2003-06-23 Thread Bela Markus
Hi,

how can I control a LAN card? This is automatically starts in 
100Mbpw/fulldup mode, but I have to switch it back to half dup and/or 
10Mbps because of the high error rate.

Thanks.. Bela



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Re: [newbie] Configuring Ethenet LAN card

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday June 23 2003 04:33 pm, Bela Markus wrote:
 Hi,

 how can I control a LAN card? This is automatically starts in
 100Mbpw/fulldup mode, but I have to switch it back to half dup
 and/or 10Mbps because of the high error rate.

 Thanks.. Bela

   You're hijacking this 'mplayer' thread by replying but just 
changing the subject. Not very well tolerated, akin to usin html, 
an most won't help you. Also you need to say what Mandrake version 
and what hardware (card an system), any other pertinent info. 

   So try again ;)  Next time with your own post
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Re: [newbie] No response on questions

2003-06-23 Thread Björn Olsson
On 23 Jun 2003 21:28:46 +0200 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No Problem. You are known as Björn, dear Bjoern.  ;-)
 Paul

Good, just had to check.

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Re: [newbie] Mplayer

2003-06-23 Thread mooney
On 23 Jun 2003 at 16:54, Tom Brinkman wrote:

SNIP
 
mplayer, tho not full featured (questionable legal issues) is on 
 your CD's. The full featured Mandrake, an probly illegal, ones you 
 can get from   http://plf.zarb.org/
 
SNIP


Surely it's only illegal in 'the land of the free'? (and maybe one or 
two other places where the Prime Minister has a brownish tongue)

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Re: [newbie] No response on questions

2003-06-23 Thread Björn Olsson
On 23 Jun 2003 14:28:04 -0500  N. B. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looks good here in evolution, Bear.  That's one of the few words of
 baby-talk Swedish my grandparents taught me that I can remember from
 50 years ago.

Wow, I'm impressed! I suppose you haven't used that word for some time
:). Trevligt att träffas.

 This queer language is really a pidgin: Germanic structure and
 vocabulary with Frenchified fancy words.  Nobody could agree on
 grammar or what gender nouns should have, so we just gave all that up.
  Must be hard to learn

You bet! But no, it isn't that hard, really. After all you hear and read
english every day. There's simply no way you could avoid it, even if you
wanted to. Anyway, this kind of forum gives you some time to think, and
to correct at least the worst misstakes before you hit Send.

 -- 
 N. B. Day 

I'll keep to my habit of ending my letters with a question. (It's
amazing how they keep popping up when you have started asking one.) This
one is definitely a newbie question of the highest degree. It concerns
the use of mailing lists at large, namely:
How do you end a thread that you started? It would be kind of rude to
just cease answering the replies, but I have seen far too many threads
get out of hand, as well as out of topic, on this list already.


Time for bed
See you all

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Re: [newbie] Boot error message

2003-06-23 Thread ed tharp
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 13:25, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Monday 23 June 2003 05:15 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Monday 23 Jun 2003 3:40 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
   Good news: Floppies are becoming extinct. According to the current
   Dell catalog, floppy drives are now extra-cost options! This may
   make sense in a corporate environment, but it strikes me that it is
   certainly going to complicate trouble shooting a standalone home
   PC.
   -- cmg
 
  So a useful tool for your box would be a usb superfloppy.  I think
  they are still available?  Most modern bioses will boot from LS120
  and zip, I think
 
  Anne
 
 Anne:
 Good point, and something that the laptop folks have learned to do. However, I 
 still like the idea of a $10 floppy drive and a small stack of disks with 
 various recovery tools on them. Floppies may be slow, and their limited 
 capacity is a real pain, but they are simple, robust and nearly universal -- 
 at least in the home/SOHO desktop realm.
 
 Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes wrong. #2 
 Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time just figuring how 
 to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use toolset while assorted 
 grandchildren incessantly repeat that they want to help Grampa. Rinse and 
 repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son.
 -- cmg
 
 
only thing, even with no floppy, they can boot from CDrom, so in a word,
Knopptix


 
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Re: [newbie] Boot error message

2003-06-23 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:32:56 +0100
Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 They're not old people unless they've compiled a *nix kernel to 8 inch
 
 floppy.

God, I haven't seen one of those since my mom took a computer course for
work when I was 10. She used a Wang computer... I always thought that
was very very funny.

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[newbie] sylpheed 0.9.2

2003-06-23 Thread C. Tresenriter

In an earlier version 0.8.* - that I used in mdk 9.0, I was easily able to set links 
in email to open with Opera - In 9.1, with this new version, I can't seem to find how 
to set this up, or maybe I just forgot..
Can someone tell me where to make this change?

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Re: [newbie] changing GNOME themes

2003-06-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:23, Russ Rollins wrote:
 Anyone had success changing downloading and installing new themes in
 GNOME (Metacity themes that is) in Mandrake 9.1? I've spent an hour or
 so on it and can't seem to get it to work using the Theme
 configurator...
 
 TIA
 -Russ-

I gave up trying. If you do get it right, let us know how. When I
THOUGHT I had it right, a restart of Gnome2 broke it again...ah
well...XFCE4 is so much better...

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Re: [newbie] my computer loves Mandrake, doesn't like WinXP andreally hates Slackware

2003-06-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 02:05, Beppe wrote:

 I can understand he does not like XP but what about poor slackware? :) It's 
 not such a bad distro after all (even if packages are managed in such a way 
 that calling awful would still be a compliment)
 
 Giuseppe

Have you tried a newer version of lilo for the Slackware side of life? I
would tend to reckon that since MDK uses a relatively newer version of
lilo that THAT may be the issue.

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Re: [newbie] Mplayer

2003-06-23 Thread Erylon Hines
If you don't have the Mandrake rpms, and you're not using urpmi, you can use 
the --force option on the rpm.  That will probably work, but only use it if 
you are certain that the 2 rpm's will satisfy all the deps.  In almost all 
cases, RH rpms work on Mandrake systems.  Sometimes you have to figure out 
where the rpm actually puts stuff, though, and sometimes the RH rpm is 
looking for deps in someplace other than where mdk has them.   I generally 
use tarballs if the mdk rpm isn't available, and sometimes even if it is, 
because I have a zip disk with stuff downloaded (java, Acrobat, flash, etc), 
and I'm on dial-up, so I'm not going to dl anything I don't absolutely have 
to.   

e

 Monday 23 June 2003 01:12 pm, DrewMartin wrote:
 Hello All,
   I tried to install Mplayer from the mplayer website,but ended
 up going round in circles(using the RPM's for Redhat),i.e. one would not
 install without the other,but could not install the other one first.
   Went to the Mandrake site the only RPM's where on the club
 site,which I can not afford to join at this moment in time.I don't want to
 try using Tarball's quite yet,because my base Linux skills are not that
 good yet.
  Can any one help me to find a version of Mplayer that will
 work with MDK 9.1,but does not take loads of knowledge to install.
Cheers,
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Re: [newbie] sensors

2003-06-23 Thread John Richard Smith
Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Monday June 23 2003 02:48 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

I have lm_sensors-2.7.0-2mdk installed

Every time I shut down I get error message,
/etc/rc0.d/k971_ ?line 73  error, too few arguments.
here is the section.

   modules=`grep \^MODULE_ $CONFIG | wc -l`
   i=`expr$Pmodules`
   while [ $i -ge 0 ] ; doline
73  module=`eval echo '$'MODULE_$i`
   /sbin/modprobe -r $module /dev/null
   i=`expr $i - 1`
   done
Can anyone help here ?

I cannot understand it let alone do something with it

John
   

  It's NBFD, just ignore it. Or you can search the cooker archive 
an find out which char (typo) to remove from line 73 to quiet the 
error mesg. I don't bother, I just ignore it.  BTW, it's an 
lm-sensors bug, not Mandrake's.  I believe, IIRC, it as simple as 
removing the 'P' in   i=`expr$Pmodules` an maybe add'n a space, ie,
i=`expr $modules`
 

Thanks Tom,

OK, will do, I can safely ignor it.

but if anyone out there happens to know what to amend without me having 
to dig around for it so much the better.

John

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Re: [newbie] RTCW on linux (well, Mandrake to be more specific)

2003-06-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 00:54, JoeHill wrote:
 On 19 Jun 2003 20:44:41 +1000
 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  
  Ok, Femme, Mr. Ron (I don't live in a trailer up a holler) Hall, and
  all the other gamerz; THIS IS BLOODY BRILLIANT.
 
 http://www.planetwolfenstein.com/enemyterritory/guide.shtml
 
 been getting into it much online?

I'm on dial-up. I'd rather not do multi-player games on dial-up.
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Re: [newbie] RTCW on linux (well, Mandrake to be more specific)

2003-06-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 03:19, ed tharp wrote:
  
 BTW, have you ever eaten conch salad, made from fresh Conch? Viagra got
 nothing on this food, but like a lot of things there can be drawbacks,
 if you eat enough to put lead in your pencil, the next morning your
 stomach feels like you ran the 3 mile run the night before grin

Conch fritters was my fave - that and Gator tail (oh, and turtle
soup/stew along with 2 doz. fresh oysters, stone crab claws with mustard
sauce, and fresh steamed cherry clams...)

Oh - in Oz:

Shrimp = Prawns
Clams = Pippies
Crawdads = Yabbies

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Re: [newbie] RTCW on linux (well, Mandrake to be more specific)

2003-06-23 Thread JoeHill
On 24 Jun 2003 08:57:54 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 I'm on dial-up. I'd rather not do multi-player games on dial-up.

so do you have people who you can play on a LAN with?

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Re: [newbie] No response on questions

2003-06-23 Thread James Henry Maiewski
Hello,

I see your diaeresis (what is it called in Swedish?).  Please do not spell 
your name any other way than the way it's spelled.

Sincerely,
Jim.

Postscriptum:  My spellchecker likes Bjorn better, I've taught it the error of 
it's ways.

On Monday 23 June 2003 04:56 pm, Björn Olsson wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:50:23 -0600 FemmeFatale

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  snips  yanks Bjorn outta his closet! NO CLOSSETING ALLOWED! Once
  you're OUT you're OUT!

 snip

  Check its permissions  make sure they are set for USER  that you now
  own it using chown as a user.  Thats my best answer... :)
 
  -
  FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt

 snip


 But I LIKE my closet!  sulking

 But you're right, It's probably more rewarding to participate in the
 discussion than to quietly wait for the interesting bits to trickle in.
 My main problem is that it's a pain in the a** to use this queer
 language :)
 Which immediately leads me to another question: How does my name show up
 in foreign, i.e. non swedish, mail readers? There should be two dots
 above the o. Sylpheed will probably send this letter as quoted
 printable because of that letter. Does it matter? Should I spell my name
 Bjoern?

 Also, thanks a lot for the tip on ET. I'll have a look into it.

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[newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome

2003-06-23 Thread Wade Waldron



I have tried to run both KDE and Gnome and get hung 
up on either. They start to load and then just stop and the system 
hangs. I have pressed Alt Ctrl F1 to get to a prompt. From here I 
pressed the windows key on my keyboard. This brings up a list of errors 
which are scrolling by so fast I can not read them. I have been able to 
make out part of the error. It says "localhost xinetd [A seemingly random 
number] sgi fam PID [A process number I assume] from no address I 
can not tell what is here local host is not connected" It also flashes 
"warning: can't get client address" although I can not tell where this fits 
in. Does anyone know what this error means and how I can stop it? I 
should note that the number for xinetd and PID both change each time the message 
flashes. It seems like the system gets hung up because it is trying to 
perform an operation but keeps failing so it tries again.

Incidentally, someone suggested that I look in 
var/log/messages. I tried, but I can not access the file because I do not 
have permission. I tried to login as root, but that does not seem to 
work. The login prompt I am recieving is "localhost login: "when I 
enter root and the password it tells me incorrect login. I know the 
password is correct so am I also doing something wrong here?

Please, any help would be very much 
appreciated.

Wade


[newbie] Open filename.mny.pif in Linux?

2003-06-23 Thread Bob Read
I'm running LM 9.0 at the moment.  Can anyone tell me how
to open a  file with  extension;   .mny.pif??  (/filename./mny,pif)
Much thanks,

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[newbie] Dual Booting MDK9.1 and MDK9.1

2003-06-23 Thread LeaAnne Kolp
Hi all,

I need some help. I'm new to linux, and my linux machine
is my main computer. The problem I have is, I want to install
2 versions of Mandrake 9.1 on my 30G hd.

I'm tired of trying to learn linux on my main machine and
loosing all my programs and email :(

So I got the bright idea of dual booting it.

Can someone help me on how to do this?

I would really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [newbie] XMMS and cdread plugin

2003-06-23 Thread Chris
On Monday 23 June 2003 01:42 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
 If I can correct myself -
 xmms-cdread is not on your CDs it is on the mirrors in Contrib.

 I believe I may have mentioned once or twice on this list how to set up a
 Contrib urpmi source :-)


Yep, you sure have, and I went to the archives, found the link for the Easy 
Urpmi site, did the setup, got the file and all was well in about 15 minutes.  
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Re: [newbie] RTCW on linux (well, Mandrake to be more specific)

2003-06-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 09:25, JoeHill wrote:
 On 24 Jun 2003 08:57:54 +1000
 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  I'm on dial-up. I'd rather not do multi-player games on dial-up.
 
 so do you have people who you can play on a LAN with?

That implies being social.

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?

2003-06-23 Thread Crak600 - Michael
Okproblems.

when my friend built the computer, he said teh primary IDE connector on the 
motherboard was bad.  well, it's not.  turned out he had been trying to hook 
up a bad hard drive to it.  so since then, everything has been running on the 
2nd IDE port.  the CDRW drive is the master, the hard drive is the slave.

I go to put in the new hard drive today.  Linux recognizes my new hard drive, 
windows does not, at least i don't know how to make it recognize it.  now, i 
had tried to swap the IDE connection to put the CD and hard drive on the 
primary and the new hard drive on the secondary, and the newer larger drive 
will be used for non-system related stuff.  well, if i swap them over, the 
computer goes to boot up, it starts to boot linux (i screwed up a setting 
somewhere, linux boots every time i fire the computer up, i have to exit 
linux to get back to windows, dual boot option doesn't come up on start up).  
anyway, after it starts to boot up linux, it tells me it can't find hdd7 (one 
of it's partitions) and just sits there and stares at me with the caps lock 
and scroll lock lights flashing.  well, i wanna solve this problem...

i've got the hardware reconfigured so i can get on (obvoiusly).  what i want 
to do is just format the old hard drive, completly wipe it out, shut down the 
computer, hook everything back up the way it needs to be, configure the bios, 
and install my stuff from there.  in doing that, will windows recognize that 
i have 2 hard drives right off the bat?  mind you, my current 20gb drive has 
3 partitions, 2 for windows and then the linux partitions.

i'm not concerned with a loss of data, as any programs i need i have on cd to 
re-install with.  so yeah, you can say i'm looking for the EASY WAY OUT, but 
that's what i need at this point or i'm gonna have to get frustrated again, 
and believe me, i'm sick of being frustrated  :)

i know i can do formatting of drives from disk drake, and i figure i can go in 
with the boot floppy i have and just format everything out from there.  i'm 
just really lost, i'm making mistakes, and need to get everything running 
smoothly.  

i sure do ask a lot of questions...but that's how we learn i guess!  
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Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome

2003-06-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 10:20, Wade Waldron wrote:
 I have tried to run both KDE and Gnome and get hung up on either. 
 They start to load and then just stop and the system hangs.  I have
 pressed Alt Ctrl F1 to get to a prompt.  From here I pressed the
 windows key on my keyboard.  This brings up a list of errors which are
 scrolling by so fast I can not read them.  I have been able to make
 out part of the error.  It says localhost xinetd [A seemingly random
 number] sgi fam PID [A process number I assume] from no address
 I can not tell what is here local host is not connected  It
 also flashes warning: can't get client address although I can not
 tell where this fits in.  Does anyone know what this error means and
 how I can stop it?  I should note that the number for xinetd and PID
 both change each time the message flashes.  It seems like the system
 gets hung up because it is trying to perform an operation but keeps
 failing so it tries again.
  
 Incidentally, someone suggested that I look in var/log/messages.  I
 tried, but I can not access the file because I do not have
 permission.  I tried to login as root, but that does not seem to
 work.  The login prompt I am recieving is localhost login:  when I
 enter root and the password it tells me incorrect login.  I know the
 password is correct so am I also doing something wrong here?
  
 Please, any help would be very much appreciated.
  
 Wade

Something is definitely wrong if you can't login as root - if anything,
you can boot from the first CD, choose F1 at the initial prompt, then
choose to run the linux resuce - once logged on, you can run passwd
to change the root password and verify that you can login properly.

If you can get that done, then, after booting normally, login to the
system as root again, and see if you can access the /var/log/messages

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Re: [newbie] Open filename.mny.pif in Linux?

2003-06-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 10:30, Bob Read wrote:
 I'm running LM 9.0 at the moment.  Can anyone tell me how
 to open a  file with  extension;   .mny.pif??  (/filename./mny,pif)
 
 Much thanks,
 
 Bob

PIF is PROGRAM INFORMATION FILE and it won't be opened by anything
other than Windows. Now, being that it has TWO extentions, I would
assume that it's a virus/trojan/backdoor program.

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to his own concept of the obligations of manhood.  All other loyalties
are merely deputies of that one.
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Re: [newbie] Mplayer

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday June 23 2003 05:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 23 Jun 2003 at 16:54, Tom Brinkman wrote:

 mplayer, tho not full featured (questionable legal issues)
  is on your CD's. The full featured Mandrake, an probly illegal,
  ones you can get from   http://plf.zarb.org/

 Surely it's only illegal in 'the land of the free'? (and maybe
 one or two other places where the Prime Minister has a brownish
 tongue)

 Paul M.

They're retry'n a boy (was at the time) in Norway, after he'd 
already been acquitted (DeCSS) ..  that'd never happen in the USA.
Once it's a done deal, it's a done deal here. No double jeopardy. 
Seems API (codecs) hijacking, reverse engineering, CSS, etc., is 
illegal in France too, most of Europe, all the way to south of the 
equator, America's, Asia, Africa, and Australia, NZ ... the various 
legal repercussions of which Mandrake can neither afford or want to 
even try an' deal with.

  Probly the most Draconian software limitations exist in Northern 
Europe. Sweden's fixin to outlaw everything as far as user free 
rights and access to proprietary software (ie, illegal to even d/l, 
a pending law, but close to passing). What's not on the block for 
oulawin, is heavily taxed. The only places to not cross paths with 
copyright holders and such, is where everything is not un-legal or 
unchallenged (ie, lawless, no lawyers or politicians). Antarctica? 
Syria? Iran? N. Korea? ...

Anyhow, my only point was the software is available, suitable 
for a Mandrake system ... just not officially from Mandrake. Not 
supported either, but only for _world wide_ legal reasons. It is 
designed and compatible with Mandrake tho. The rpms will install 
properly in the right places, and add a menu entry ;) Use of 
generic or other distro rpms or tarballs will probly fsck'up 
somethin. YMMV 
-- 
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Re: [newbie] Boot error message

2003-06-23 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 23 June 2003 03:59 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 At 06:33 PM 6/23/2003 +0100, you wrote:
 snips a rattlesnakes rattler! OHH!
 
   Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes
   wrong. #2 Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time
   just figuring how to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use
   toolset while assorted grandchildren incessantly repeat that they
   want to help Grampa. Rinse and repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son.
   -- cmg

 Wake up OLD PEOPLE!  Its called DISK ON KEY!  HELLO?!  USB keys?  you
 know?? recognized as a floppy device by bioses now? ;D
 -
 FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt

Femme:
Give me a call when the price drops to $10. That must include the necessary 
adapters and drivers to upgrade the various offsprings' collection of 
proprietary and two-guys-and-a-goat POS. (Ever try to find a BIOS upgrade for 
a TMC motherboard?) Until that glorious day arrives, I'll take very good care 
of my floppies.

-- cmg


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Re: [newbie] Dual Booting MDK9.1 and MDK9.1

2003-06-23 Thread Royke K
Use Lilo,

1.  Install Mandrake 9.1 and then when you have to configure the disk 
partition , make sure there are enough free space for your second 
Mandrake 9.1 instalation.
2.  Choose lilo as the bootloader, and place it on the MBR (master boot 
record) on your harddisk.  it's easier to use.
3.  Install second Mandrake 9.1 on the rest of free partition on your 
harddisk.
4.  Most important think, when configuring Lilo, make sure install it on 
the First partition of your Mandrake Instalation.  It depends whether 
you choose boot partition on separate partition or on root partition.

5.  Boot on the first Mandrake 9.1 instalation.
Find your second Mandrake boot partition and after your figure it out, 
make the mount point of it, then edit and add it on your /etc/fstab file 
configuration.
example :

/dev/hda5   /mnt/Your_Second_Mandrake_instalation 
   ext3defaults0 0

6.  Edit your /etc/lilo.conf and add the line like this :

image=/mnt/Your_Second_Mandrake_instalation/vmlinuz-2.4.18
   root=/dev/hdax  - your 
second_mandrake_root_partition
   read-only
   label=Second_Mandrake_9.1_instalation
7.  Make sure you know where your place your boot partition, on separate 
boot partition or in your root partition.

Hope this help.

Good luck.

LeaAnne Kolp wrote:

Hi all,

I need some help. I'm new to linux, and my linux machine
is my main computer. The problem I have is, I want to install
2 versions of Mandrake 9.1 on my 30G hd.
I'm tired of trying to learn linux on my main machine and
loosing all my programs and email :(
So I got the bright idea of dual booting it.

Can someone help me on how to do this?

I would really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!

 



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Re: [newbie] XMMS and cdread plugin

2003-06-23 Thread C. Tresenriter

 
 As for seeing your playlist :-
 To start playing a CD with xmms select PlayDirectory and select /mnt/cdrom
 Then you can press the 'PL'  button on the xmms GUI to see the playlist.
 
 HTH
 
 derek
 -- 

If I could jump in here
I've been trying to figure this out but I must be doing something wrong.
I've tried clicking the play button and get the 'load files' dialog - then get to the 
/mnt dir and choose cdrom, but the files window shows no files.

I've tried R clicking the player, then choosing 'play directory' then expand /mnt, 
then choose /cdrom, then 'ok' - I then open the playlist, and it's blank.

I've also tried the +file button on the playlist window then + directory and 
/mnt/cdrom, but nothing happens.

Even the load list button doesn't seem to do anything.
Am I missing something?

-
 www.jennings.homelinux.net
 
 
 



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Re: [newbie] sensors

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday June 23 2003 04:46 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
 On Monday 23 Jun 2003 9:33 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 It's NBFD, just ignore it.

 One I haven't seen before. Google thought it was the New Boston
 Fire Department, but http://www.kelseypub.com/irc/abbrev.shtml
 put me straight.

   Like RTFM, or STFW, you can use F anyways you want ;)

   SOS DD   same deal with the 2nd S ;
-- 
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