Re: [newbie-it] OT: Mozilla 1.4
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:12:30 +0200, Giuseppe Ferruzzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Emiliano La Licata ha scritto: Avete provato Mozilla 1.4 ? Sono sconvolto dalla velocit con la quale carica le pagine web? Qualcuno sa qualcosa in merito? Io avevo provato sia la versione 1.3 e poi anche la versione 1.4 poi li ho tolti entrambi ma sinceramente non mi ricordo i motivi precisi, prove che ho effettuato in un periodo di confusione locale. La 1.3 sicuramente per problemi di instabilit e forse la 1.4 proprio per lo stesso tuo problema, ma non ne sono sicuro, ho solo un ricordo vivo, la delusione per questo ho rimesso la 1.2.1. Comunque ho sentito dire che mozilla cambier nome non mi ricordo di preciso forse con firebird o qualcosa del genere e la 1.5 o la 1.6 dovrebbe essere l'ultima release che verr rilasciata con il nome attuale. La nuova versione dovrebbe essere tutta un'altra cosa. Sai niente di pi preciso ? Ciao, Giuseppe. Non ne so niente, Firebird uno dei browser derivati da Mozilla, mi spiacerebbe se cambiasse nome, stato il primo browser indipendente che ho provato, con windows, all'inizio si piantava sempre, poi molto migliorato, valeva la pena di installarlo per gi solo per lo splash screen con il draghetto/dinosauro che sputava fuoco :) , era spettacolare. E' uno dei pochi browser indipendenti completi, spero che anche se sotto diverse spoglie continui per a crescere. Ciao Artasersec
Re: [newbie-it] OT: Mozilla 1.4
* Emiliano La Licata ha scritto: Avete provato Mozilla 1.4 ? Sono sconvolto dalla velocità con la quale carica le pagine web? Qualcuno sa qualcosa in merito? Io avevo provato sia la versione 1.3 e poi anche la versione 1.4 poi li ho tolti entrambi ma sinceramente non mi ricordo i motivi precisi, prove che ho effettuato in un periodo di confusione locale. La 1.3 sicuramente per problemi di instabilità e forse la 1.4 proprio per lo stesso tuo problema, ma non ne sono sicuro, ho solo un ricordo vivo, la delusione per questo ho rimesso la 1.2.1. Comunque ho sentito dire che mozilla cambierà nome non mi ricordo di preciso forse con firebird o qualcosa del genere e la 1.5 o la 1.6 dovrebbe essere l'ultima release che verrà rilasciata con il nome attuale. La nuova versione dovrebbe essere tutta un'altra cosa. Sai niente di più preciso ? Ciao, Giuseppe. -- GNU/Linux Powered Red Hat 9.A (Shrike) Kernel 2.4.20
Re: [newbie-it] LMsensor, gkrellmsensor, allarme temperatura
Alle 19:40, luned 25 agosto 2003, stefano ha scritto: Da quando ho installato il sw di cui in oggetto ho una sgradevole allarme al raggiungimento della temp di 60 anche se io ho impostato come allarme 80 Come fare? Qual'la vera temperatura di pericolo per un AMD 1800+? Aggiornamento. Ho spostato il PC sul tavolo e aperto i due laterali. Ora la temperatura dopo 4 ore di lavoro fissa sui 48C. E pensare che il mio PC ha ben 6 ventole!!
Re: [newbie-it] LMsensor, gkrellmsensor, allarme temperatura
On 2003.08.28 18:10, stefano wrote: Alle 19:40, luned 25 agosto 2003, stefano ha scritto: Da quando ho installato il sw di cui in oggetto ho una sgradevole allarme al raggiungimento della temp di 60 anche se io ho impostato come allarme 80 Come fare? Qual'la vera temperatura di pericolo per un AMD 1800+? Aggiornamento. Ho spostato il PC sul tavolo e aperto i due laterali. Ora la temperatura dopo 4 ore di lavoro fissa sui 48C. E pensare che il mio PC ha ben 6 ventole!! Sorry ma comprarsi un bel raffreddamento a liquido?? Costa un pochino ma ti assicuro che ne vale la pena Queste sono le temperature MASSIME con il caldo micidiale di settimana scorsa... _ 38C lavorando tranquillamente _ 44C sotto sforzo... es: giocando, o sotto test grafici... d'inverno sono circa 8C in meno in entrambi i casi... E ripeto che queste sono le massime temperature registrate.
Re: [newbie-it] script per shell problematico
Scusa, mi sono spiegato male. Il mio problema non è cambiare delle stringhe di testo, né far variare dei parametri, bensì far interpretare un codice in php e ottenerne il relativo html in maniera automatica. In pratica, a mano io apro un programma di testo come kwrite o vi e al posto di un file chiamo http://localhost/lamiapagina.php?var1=xvar2=y; ottengo l'html e lo salvo in un file. Voglio fare lo stesso automaticamente con uno script di shell perché ho numerose pagine che ottengo al variare di due parametri; ma i due parametri li faccio cambiare con un ciclo for nello script, il problema è trovare un'istruzione (da eseguire iterativamente all'interno del ciclo) che permetta di ottenere l'html di una pagina e salvarlo in un file. Ciao, grazie Giorgio Alle 10:17, mercoledì 27 agosto 2003, Andrea Celli ha scritto: Alle 22:58, martedì 26 agosto 2003, Giorgio Griffon ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, ho un problema un po' complicato: devo preparare numerose pagine web e, poiché sono simili tra loro, ho deciso di usare il php in modo da ottenere bell'e pronto il codice html, al variare di un paio di parametri. Però ho pensato che grazie a linux il lavoro può essere ulteriormente automatizzato ed ho cercato di scrivere uno script di shell che faccia variare i due parametri, richieda la pagina html e ne salvi il codice in un opportuno file in un'opportuna cartella. In pratica si tratta di una cosa di questo genere: dato il codice php, mi connetto al mio server apache attraverso un programma come konqueror con: http://localhost/pagina.php?parametro1=xparametro2=y Allora lo script dovrebbe contenere due cicli uno dentro l'altro per far variare i due parametri; il problema è cosa mettere dentro i cicli. Se scrivo questo: testo=http://localhost/pagina.php?parametro1=xparametro2=y; vi $testo viene visualizzato correttamente l'html che mi serve; ma se aggiungo una redirezione per salvarlo in un file vi $testo file.htm Perché usi vi o altri editor interattivi? Se devi fare modifiche standardizzate su una serie di file è meglio: - sed, per modificare una stringa prefissata di cui non sai la posizione - awk, per modificare una stringa qualunque in una posizione prefissata - perl, per tutte e due le cose ed altro ancora. Per sed c'è una mini guida, un breviario delle righe di comando usate più frequentemente. Si chiama one-liners-sed o qualcosa di simile. Per perl, c'è un manuale scritto da Marco Liverani molto chiaro e conciso. ciao, andrea
Re: [newbie-it] LMsensor, gkrellmsensor, allarme temperatura
A Sorry ma comprarsi un bel raffreddamento a liquido?? Costa un pochino ma ti assicuro che ne vale la pena Queste sono le temperature MASSIME con il caldo micidiale di settimana scorsa... _ 38C lavorando tranquillamente _ 44C sotto sforzo... es: giocando, o sotto test grafici... d'inverno sono circa 8C in meno in entrambi i casi... E ripeto che queste sono le massime temperature registrate. -- _Scusa scusa Rafreddamento a lpuoi spiegarmi meglio (visto l'OT in email privata?)
Re: [newbie-it] LMsensor, gkrellmsensor, allarme temperatura
Sorry ma comprarsi un bel raffreddamento a liquido?? Costa un pochino ma ti assicuro che ne vale la pena Queste sono le temperature MASSIME con il caldo micidiale di settimana scorsa... _ 38C lavorando tranquillamente _ 44C sotto sforzo... es: giocando, o sotto test grafici... d'inverno sono circa 8C in meno in entrambi i casi... E ripeto che queste sono le massime temperature registrate. -- _Scusa scusa Rafreddamento a lpuoi spiegarmi meglio (visto l'OT in email privata?) Io ho sempre comprato AMD e ne sono rimasto sempre soddisfatto solo che l'unica loro pecca che scaldano non poco, anche se c' da dire che negli ultimi anni hanno migliorato moltissimo questo unico difettuccio... Quindi la soluzione che mi sono trovato il raffreddamento a liquido. Radiatore // Serbatoio // | | CPU / | | // Pompetta___// \/ Il serbatoio non fa mai mancare liquido alla pompetta che si preoccupa mandare l'acqua alla CPU e al radioatore per raffreddarla... In commercio li vendono i raffreddamenti a liquido! Oppure se te lo vuoi fare tu... Io ho provato... per la pompetta va bene una pompetta dei presepi, radiatore ne ho recuperato uno vecchio di un condizionatore (puoi usare anche quello di un scooter) il pi fare il dissipatore da montare sulla CPU. Me lo sono fatto fare da un mio amico che lavora su fresa e tornio. Sono due quadrati di rame scavati all'interno e successivamente saldati. Tutto qu.. Spero di aver risposto alla tua domanda perch non era molto chiara, altrimenti dimmi che vuoi sapere che prover a darti altre info! Fammi sapere! Ciao ciao Davide Ps: OT in email privata? Ma non ti ho risposto in pvt... o sbaglio? Bho... Va b, cmq sempre a disposizione :)
Re: [newbie-it] LMsensor, gkrellmsensor, allarme temperatura
Sorry ma comprarsi un bel raffreddamento a liquido?? Costa un pochino ma ti assicuro che ne vale la pena Queste sono le temperature MASSIME con il caldo micidiale di settimana scorsa... _ 38C lavorando tranquillamente _ 44C sotto sforzo... es: giocando, o sotto test grafici... d'inverno sono circa 8C in meno in entrambi i casi... E ripeto che queste sono le massime temperature registrate. -- _Scusa scusa Rafreddamento a lpuoi spiegarmi meglio (visto l'OT in email privata?) Io ho sempre comprato AMD e ne sono rimasto sempre soddisfatto solo che l'unica loro pecca che scaldano non poco, anche se c' da dire che negli ultimi anni hanno migliorato moltissimo questo unico difettuccio... Quindi la soluzione che mi sono trovato il raffreddamento a liquido. Radiatore // Serbatoio // | | CPU / | | // Pompetta___// \/ Il serbatoio non fa mai mancare liquido alla pompetta che si preoccupa mandare l'acqua alla CPU e al radioatore per raffreddarla... In commercio li vendono i raffreddamenti a liquido! Oppure se te lo vuoi fare tu... Io ho provato... per la pompetta va bene una pompetta dei presepi, radiatore ne ho recuperato uno vecchio di un condizionatore (puoi usare anche quello di un scooter) il pi fare il dissipatore da montare sulla CPU. Me lo sono fatto fare da un mio amico che lavora su fresa e tornio. Sono due quadrati di rame scavati all'interno e successivamente saldati. Tutto qu.. Spero di aver risposto alla tua domanda perch non era molto chiara, altrimenti dimmi che vuoi sapere che prover a darti altre info! Fammi sapere! Ciao ciao Davide Ps: OT in email privata? Ma non ti ho risposto in pvt... o sbaglio? Bho... Va b, cmq sempre a disposizione :)
Re: [newbie] Converting sound files? (recording from cassette, pt2)
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 01:01 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: weird thing: rezound oppened EVERYTHING but mp3 That's weird. I just opened one without any trouble. Seems like I saw somewhere that you have to have Lame installed? Maybe thats it... -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] wishing for mandrake 2.6 test3 kernel
Michael Lothian wrote: If you were wanting to play arround with kernels try the tmb ones what's 'tmb' It's the initial of the guy who compiles it Thomas Buckland Just update your kernel-utils and possibelyou init scrips from the cooker rpms (from memory that is - on my win doze box atm) could you please give me more detailed instructions or point me to somewhere where I could find them? ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/initscripts-7.06-19mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/kernel-tmb-2.4.22.0.5.2tmb_mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-0.5.2tmb_mdk.i586.rpm is the source really necessary? I have no idea how big these downloads are so I don't dare do it yet :P If you install these files Then type lilo it should all work what I'm looking for is that dreamy kernel feature which I hear will have that magic property of making Linux react faster (more like Windows, in giving higher priority to starting programs running user programs) greets, I think that's the low latancy patch. Which this kernel includes. Hence why these kernels (eventually) become the Multimedia ones. woow!! Yes ... so you're saying this contains the low latency thing? YEY! I'm all into Multimedia. Got any idea if Mandrake 9.2 will include anything like this (a kernel with this support)? Let me know how you get on thanks a LOT!! I wish I could do urpmi some package and instead of it downloading it would just give me an exact list (maybe in a file) of neat addresses like you gave me so I could download anything like that:) so after downloading installing these I should be set an the only thing I'd have to do is select a different thing at boot time and nothing else in Linux would change? Wow! Now I'm afraid these packages will require a lot of dependencies ... in order to find that out I'd like to do something like 'urpmi kernel-tmb' .. but don't know exactly what to write as there is no 'kernel-tmb' package :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFS Mount
John Richard Smith wrote: Miark wrote: It's possible the old mount setting in fstab is still active. Have you checked mtab to make sure the partition isn't already mounted? Miark On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:27:49 -0400, Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I did mount -t xfs /dev/hdg1 /drive2. This is the correct drive and mount point. This combo worked for a long time using reiserfs. The pertinent lines from my fstab file are: /dev/hdg1 /drive2 xfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hdh1 /drive3 xfs defaults 1 2 What did diskdrake do wrong? I sure as heck didn't change anything. I let the expert (diskdrake) do it and it screwed up. I still haven't received my first post. Interesting.. This may be irrelevant as I have no experience with xfs partitions, but, shouldn't the lines be something like, /dev/hdg1 /mnt/drive2 xfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hdh1 /mnt/drive3 xfs defaults 1 2 John They would appear that way only if I was mounting them to /mnt/drive2 and /mnt/drive3. You can mount them to any directory on the machine. I chose to mount them to /drive2 and /drive3. Very late last night I found them problem. It matches up perfectly with what Tom suggested. diskdrake never made the conversion from reiserfs to xfs, it only changed the fstab entries. So Mandrake was trying to the mount reiserfs formatted drives as if they were xfs formatted drives. You can imagine how well that worked. I mounted them as reiserfs and found that they were still working as reiser. I then unmounted them, after recovering the data that was on them, and manually created the xfs partition using mkfs -t xfs -f /dev/hdg1 for drive2 and mkfs -t xfs -f /dev/hdh1 for drive3. I then changed the entries in fstab from: /dev/hdg1 /drive2 reiserfs notail 1 2 /dev/hdh1 /drive3 reiserfs notail 1 2 to: /dev/hdg1 /drive2 xfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hdh1 /drive3 xfs defaults 1 2 Bingo! All done. Thanks for the suggestion though. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdkduron KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 13:10:00 up 8:35, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.13, 0.13 ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help with installing video drivers.
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:21:04 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What is init 3? How do I drop to it? How do I switch back to init5? Just for this post to you I have turned-off PGP so this should appear in OE as a simple text message, I would refer to keep it on at all times because of security and privacy concerns. For any future postings you may need to use another client or save to disk from OE and read it in notepad or other program. Runlevels are a state, or mode, defined by the services listed in the SysV /etc/rc.d/rcx.d/ directory, where x is the number of the runlevel. The idea behind SysV init runlevels revolves around the fact that different systems can be used in a different ways. For example, a server runs more efficiently without the drag on system resources created by the X Window System. Other times, a system administrator may need to operate the system at a lower runlevel to perform diagnostic tasks, like fixing disk corruption in runlevel 1, when no other users can possibly be on the system. The characteristics of a given runlevel determines which services are halted and started by init. For instance, runlevel 1 (single user mode) halts any network services, while runlevel 3 starts these services. By assigning specific services to be halted or started on a given runlevel, init can quickly change the mode of the machine without the user manually stopping and starting services. The following runlevels(init) are used 0 Halt 1 Single-user text mode 2 Not used (user-definable) 3 Full multi-user text mode 4 Not used (user-definable) 5 Full multi-user graphical mode (with an X-based login screen) 6 Reboot The default runlevels normally used are 1 and 5 On my systems I boot to runlevel(init) 3 then manually launch the X-server, if/when you boot to the graphical log-in you are booting to runlevel(init) 5 To get to init 3 from init 5 log-out of your WM so that you are at the login screen. Press the key combination Ctrl-Alt-F2 This will take you to a text login prompt. Login with your username and password and then su to root. At the prompt enter: init 3 example [EMAIL PROTECTED] charles]# init 3 This will shut down the X-server and drop you to runlevel 3. From this level it is safe to install the fglrx driver and to run fglrxconfig. If you have problems with fglrxconfig I can walk you through each setting being either as cryptic or verbose as you wish. Once the above is accomplished to return to runlevel 5 at the prompt enter: init 5 example [EMAIL PROTECTED] charles]# init 5 This will take you to the graphical login screen. Charles -- Many a writer seems to think he is never profound except when he can't understand his own meaning. -- George D. Prentice - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-1mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] XFS Mount
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday August 26 2003 09:54 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Miark wrote: It's possible the old mount setting in fstab is still active. Have you checked mtab to make sure the partition isn't already mounted? Miark There are no entries for either drive in mtab. mtab is generated from fstab, an shouldn't be fooled with Brant, try puttin your 1st CD in an check the partitions with the installers diskdrake. It could be that when you used diskdrake the changes were never made, or the partitions were never formatted for XFS, an they're still ReiserFS. Probly cause the partitions weren't unmounted. Also, with either ReiserFS or XFS, Civileme use to suggest a ext3 /boot partition. IME, it was/is good advice. I did exactly that and that is what I found. I posted my findings to the expert list last evening. I forgot to post them here as well. Was that cross-posting? If so...sue me (as long as it can be demonstrated that the exact same people frequent both lists). I do what it takes to get the job done. :-P Thanks for the suggestions. :-) IIRC, you're runnin cooker. FWIW, RC1 iso's look like they're comin to the mirrors today. The beta2 iso's are gone, and so far the RC1 md5sum file is posted. So maybe ya want to wait for those before fixin your partitions. I saw that. Warly, from Mandrakesoft, released the bittorrent info for them: btdownloadheadless.py --url http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc1-CD1.i586.iso.torrent --saveas MandrakeLinux-9.2rc1-CD1.i586.iso -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdkduron KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 13:00:00 up 8:25, 1 user, load average: 0.30, 0.14, 0.10 ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ssh client -gui
hi can u sugest some mandrake package of a ssh client that has a nice gui? I've been using gTelnet ... but it seems it stopped working since the server I'm connecting to moved from port 22 to 8080 :-( 'elp? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Toshiba Sat. 330CDS Laptop
I went through the drill with PM, read your email, and started over installing on a 2 gig partition directly with 2k install, leaving the rest virginal for mdk. Now here goes 9.1. Lee Use PM 8+..otherwise you will be sorry. Femmeknowstoomuchaboutwinsux Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Compaq is just plain weird
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 08:33, Bill Spatz wrote: Have you tried using F10 during boot to access the bios? Later Compaqs use that rather than the configuration floppy. thia ain't no 'later model' if it is a 266mhz Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of HaywireMac Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:02 AM To: Mandrake Newbs Subject: [newbie] Compaq is just plain weird I thought I would create a seperate P2P server using that infamous old Compaq POS I got for free, so I installed MLDonkey, and set it running. 1. The Compaq will not respond to ssh or vnc unless I hit the any key. 2. Even MLDonkey seems to stop running or downloading unless I hit the any key. What is up with this crap? I have looked in MCC for a way to tell it to stop this behaviour, but I see nothing that looks promising. I am thinking that I need to get into the BIOS to change a setting, but someone on here a while back mentioned I need a special boot floppy to do that. I have searched the Compaq site, but am not having much luck. The machine is a Compaq Deskpro P233. Can anyone give me a shove in the right direction? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ At the end of your life there'll be a good rest, and no further activities are scheduled. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/03 __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Fwd: defragmentation]
Stephen, My MacOS hard drive has severe fragmentation. I have to defrag to make room for a second Linux partition. Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 05:40, Tomas Taylor wrote: Hi there, A few days ago I ordered Linux for PPC 9.1 and Norton's Utilities 8.0 My plan is to split the 40GB hard drive on my PowerBook G4 into equal partitions. If there is a free utility for the defrag then I won't open box and just send it back. Also I read this message that Google sent me to saying that in the middle of Speed Disk, the OS goes to sleep and never comes? I hope that utilities exist for defragmentation that don't go to sleep in middle or at least can recover from it. Tomas Taylor You have no reason to defrag a linux file system. Send Norton back. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
To be pedantic, theliquid crystals are not a polarised light source. The light comes from a uniform light at the back of the screen. This is polarised by a filter and then passed through the liquid crystal matrix. The crystals that are powered twist the polarisation 90 degrees. The light then passes through a second polarisation filter at 90 degrees to the first. If no twist is involved the light is stopped by that and the pixel is black. If the liqid crystals have twisted the light, however, the light passes through and appears bright. Colour is created by a mask layer of red, green and blue dots in register with the pixels, so each screen pixel is made up of at least three liquid crystal elements; one for each primary colour. The liquid effect when you touch the screen is caused by the pressure deforming the whole thing and compressing the liquid crystal layer, which is, after all, liquid. Nice trick: try looking at an LCD display of any sort, including a calculator or a watch, with polaroid sunglasses on. At some angle the whole display goes dark because the polarised light is at right angles to the polariod filter in the glasses. On Wednesday 27 Aug 2003 11:26 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Exactly. -Original Message- From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen Now that is an interesting article. So a pixel is really light bent by electronic switching of the crystalls that act as polarised light sources. I quess that is why if you run your finger lightly over the serface of a LCD monitor you get a kind of watery effect of the picture. What I didn't find clear was whether each polarised light source is assigned a specific colour source or whether a given crystal can be made to emit either of the 3 primary colours. Anyway the essense of the matter as to how good a picture you are going to get is the number of pixel polarised light sources per given area and the speed by which those polarised light sources can be switched on and off. Yes ? John stormjumper wrote: hi John, er, just a slight correction here. a typical basic specfication for a crt is the vertical refresh rate. i believe that is what u're referring to when you mentioned 85. it should probably read as 85hz, ie 85 cycles per second. a typical recommended comfortable value for most pp is 75, altho that requirement goes up as the screen gets larger. fyi, this refresh rate value has nothing to do w sharpness. most consumer LCDs are generally sharper than consumer CRTs, hence being easier on the eyes. some frens in certain creative fields, namely design and architecture, claim that the pro CRTs (typically 19 and above) are equally sharp, if not sharper. these obviously come at non-consumer prices as well. also, vertical refresh rate is not really relevant for LCDs. you can refer to http://www.lcdmonitors.philips.com/lcdmonitors/articles/basics_of_lc d.a sp Why is a vertical frequency of 60 Hz optimal for an LCD monitor? which will explain far better than i can. for LCD's the more relevant spec is prolly the response time, which is a figure typically between 15-40 ms. the smaller the number, the better for watching video/playing games, as it will result is less visual streaking/smearing/watever you call it. you should also take note of the brightness and contrast ratio, which is impt esp if you work in a very well-lit environment, eg a sun lit room. otherwise, most lcds are bright enough. enuff said. hope these help. - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 20:46 Subject: Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen I see, so in regards to TFT's it's not a case then of a beam of electrons scanning the screen top left to botton right so many times a second ( CRT of 85Mhz = 85 refershed scans per second) but a question of how many times a pixel is electronically swithced on and off electronically, that is by a circuit behind that pixel ? So a TFT with a refresh rate of 16ms is being switched on and off, 16/1000of a second each time. I guess as time goes on that time will decrease some as technology improves. Yes, I think Dell merely badge someone elses make don't they, they buy in large orders at a time at best prices and badge them, and sometimes they get a bad deal, and sell the shipment off quickly to a retailer for a knockdown price. That is why I was suspicious in the first place, and came to the list, because I have extremely limited experience with these devices. Seems like I will have to keep my old CRT's a while longer yet. John -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transferring songs from cassette
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 02:41 pm, Michael Adams wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:06:11 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 26 August 2003 04:04 am, Michael Adams wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:44:44 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Cool. Is there a way to do this to albums also? I could put the cassette deck on record and run the RCA plugs from tape deck monitor to the line-in on the sound card, just wonder if there is a better way... :) You can do it with albums by connecting the output from a turntable to the input on a cassette recorder snip Make that the phono input of a stereo capable of handling phono input. Some cassete recorders have phono inputs. An auxilliary input won't do. Also if memory serves there were two types of phono output at one stage (crystal and ceramic???) which used different output levels. Sheesh, i'm just telling everyone how ancient i yam. Actually on mine it is from the turntable to the tapedecks line in and then from the tape deck line out to the sound card phono jack. Works like a champ with gramofile. The tape deck does the preamp and filter and it sounds pretty good in .wav . YMMV Does the turntable have a pre-amp? Not sure who you are asking but on my setup it is just a technics turntable, no preamp. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:35:34PM -0400, Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:26:17PM -0500, Dennis Myers wrote: horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that somebody thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux? Wasn't there a worm recently that exploited mySQL? Todd This is what I was thinking of: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.slapper.worm.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Opinions on Software required
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:11:46 +0100, Michael Lothian wrote: Hi everybody! (Sound like that guy from the simpsons) I was just wondering what the best software (preferably one with a nice gui) to do the following things... Convert CDs into Ogg files I like Grip for this. Never had one problem. Not the best looking gui however. - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]How to Defrag XP Properly, WAS - Re: WineX -- Update!
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 12:59, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2003 04:18 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: /snip Thanks again, Femme, Drew Lyvim. You just added to my resent for MicroSCOft. Does that mean, my 6 CD's are unable to reinstall this XP crap without having to call the crooks ? Kaj Haulrich. np luv. no it means they will put the system back exactly the way it was when you got it from teh dealer. What sucks is you can't reinstall XP w/out them or you can void your warranty (in canada the us mostly taht ishow it works...maybe not in ...Netherlands?). Think oof them as exact dupes of the systtea as it was when you got pre-loaded. FemMorphine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Toshiba Sat. 330CDS Laptop
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:41:25 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:25:30 -0600 Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Use PM 8+..otherwise you will be sorry. Strange, I never ever had any probs with Windows coexisting with MDK when I used to dual boot. I definitely *always* had probs with XP, whether I was dual booting or not of course... :-D As long as you install Win 1st, then MDK, you should never ever need 3rd party software, at least in my exp. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ The truth is rarely pure, and never simple. -- Oscar Wilde All worked fine with mdk install until I tried to boot without the 10/100 bd plugged in to the usb port. Now it hangs on starting pcmcia. Any thoughts. On the bright side, win2k (NTFS) sees the FAT32 I set up as a common area between the 2 os's. Won't matter much if I keep freezing in boot, though. Funny, win2k can't find a driver for the 10/100 card. I laughed since I won't use it on the net, anyway. Mdk picked it up automagically. I'm not real portable if I have to boot connected to my cable. If you see a guy walking down the street unreeling coax.that's me. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] another defragmentation question
I dual boot Win 98SE and ran a defrag on the Windows partition. In doing so, I screwed up my Mandrake 9.0 super block, at least that was what the error reported. All attempts at repairing the super block (by using other locations) failed. Maybe it really was the partition tables. My question is, did the defragmentation of Windows cause this? If so, is there a way to defrag Windows and not mess up Mandrake? To avoid the flames ... I use PageMaker for work and although Scribus is coming along nicely, there are things that the print shops want that I have yet to find possible in Scribus. Julie in the Pacific Northwest Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Converting sound files? (recording from cassette, pt2)
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 05:24 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2003 01:01 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: weird thing: rezound oppened EVERYTHING but mp3 That's weird. I just opened one without any trouble. Seems like I saw somewhere that you have to have Lame installed? Maybe thats it... yur right, you gotta have lame or maybe notlame for mp3s -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:26:17 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:54 pm, Michael Adams wrote: Any paranoids out there? Start worrying! http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100558.htm The rest of us will read this, shrug, and carry on as per normal aware that slim threats do exist on linux. No flames for scare mongering please. I thought it was an acceptable oddity, no more! I read it and shrugged, but went looking for it anyway. Not found. One of the IT guys at work who only knows windows told me that the worms had some effect on linux, I said I don't think so and he replied that Symantec had shown one of them effecting linux. So I went looking and all that came up was the drdos, which is old and is part of the chkrootkit test. I can't convince him that it was not a problem cause Symantec said it was. Oh well, you can lead a horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that somebody thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux? Yes worms have an effect on linux. The slow down the network. Beat their heads against the firewalls and fill your logs with dross. I think from reading this that this tool is seen as a threat because it can be used for DOS attacks. Not because it affects linux, although the host may be slowed sending out packets ;) -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT: rpmfind dot net
Has anyone visited rpmfind.net lately ? When I go there and do a software search I get this. This page is temporarily closed in protest against software patents. Websites may soon be closed down regularly due to software patents. Software patents can get you prosecuted for publishing texts you wrote yourself! You will be redirected to http://swpat.ffii.org in 20 seconds for more information. To enter this site, click here Seems like some kind of European Patent battle I've not heard of, or am i getting some kind of strange redirect from rpmfind's website ? Regards, Dan Gordon -- Wed Aug 27 21:36:33 EDT 2003 21:36:33 up 12:32, 2 users, load average: 0.15, 0.12, 0.05 A child of five could understand this! Fetch me a child of five. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ssh client -gui
Richard Urwin wrote: On Wednesday 27 Aug 2003 11:07 pm, Anarky wrote: hi can u sugest some mandrake package of a ssh client that has a nice gui? I've been using gTelnet ... but it seems it stopped working since the server I'm connecting to moved from port 22 to 8080 :-( 'elp? I don't know gTelnet, but can't you just tell it host-name:8080 ? there's a special box for the port .. put it there .. but it won't connect anymore :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Opinions on Software required
Michael Lothian wrote: Hi everybody! (Sound like that guy from the simpsons) I was just wondering what the best software (preferably one with a nice gui) to do the following things... Convert CDs into Ogg files Grip. Convert DVDs to DivX (or something similar) Mencoder Play N64 Roms Play GameBoy (Advance) Roms Oh yes and whats the best way to get windows software working under linux? I've tried wine but I never can seem to get the blasterin thing working. Run Windows under Linux with Win4lin. Actually it depends on what software you are trying to run. What software are you trying to run? Thanks in advance Mike -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdkduron KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 21:30:00 up 3:25, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.14, 0.20 ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to get rid of old Windows Drive Mounts
HaywireMac wrote: Although I no longer have any Windows partitions or drives, they still show up under /mnt. I have checked /etc/fstab, and they do not appear. Is there somewhere else I need to go to make them stop appearing? Have you checked your lilo configuration? Sir Robin -- Hackers appear to wear black more because it goes with everything and hides dirt than because they want to look like goths. - Eric Raymond Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux Apps
Hi All, I was wondering if you could help me with some advice. I have just jumped to only Linux on this computer. However there are a couple of apps that I would like to find equivalents to for Linux. One is an easy to use Firewall program (ZoneAlarm). Any suggestions. Second is a Clipboard program that you can save data in different groups like ClipMate. Thanks Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] another defragmentation question
julie wrote: I dual boot Win 98SE and ran a defrag on the Windows partition. In doing so, I screwed up my Mandrake 9.0 super block, at least that was what the error reported. All attempts at repairing the super block (by using other locations) failed. Maybe it really was the partition tables. My question is, did the defragmentation of Windows cause this? If so, is there a way to defrag Windows and not mess up Mandrake? I don't think it's possible for defragging a Windows partition to affect your Linux partition in any way. The only time I've managed to screw up Linux from Windows was with Norton. Sir Robin -- There are other rules, but you'll find out what those are when you break them. - Blake's 7 Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Toshiba Sat. 330CDS Laptop
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:07, Lee Wiggers wrote: I went through the drill with PM, read your email, and started over installing on a 2 gig partition directly with 2k install, leaving the rest virginal for mdk. Now here goes 9.1. Lee Use PM 8+..otherwise you will be sorry. Femmeknowstoomuchaboutwinsux word of advice... just make a ext2 partitoin for linxu or several. if you use any other partition type by parting with the MDK installer thingy, PM (any ver i've seen) labels the whole partition bad wants to fix it. Don't let it. Femmeless (don't have a femmey lover.. :{ ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] The following packages have bad signatures:
How come I often get: The following packages have bad signatures: bla bla Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) when urpmi-ing something? what does this 'bad signatures' mean? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Odd email in list
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 11:48 am, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: On Monday 25 August 2003 08:05 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: How do you get the caps off of the bottles? -- cmg Thought you did not like OT discussions on Newbie list. Or only discussion you disagree with? Keith Touche'. With a mallet. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transferring songs from cassette
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 05:50 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2003 02:41 pm, Michael Adams wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:06:11 -0500 snip Make that the phono input of a stereo capable of handling phono input. Some cassete recorders have phono inputs. An auxilliary input won't do. Also if memory serves there were two types of phono output at one stage (crystal and ceramic???) which used different output levels. Sheesh, i'm just telling everyone how ancient i yam. Actually on mine it is from the turntable to the tapedecks line in and then from the tape deck line out to the sound card phono jack. Works like a champ with gramofile. The tape deck does the preamp and filter and it sounds pretty good in .wav . YMMV Does the turntable have a pre-amp? Not sure who you are asking but on my setup it is just a technics turntable, no preamp. That did not come out right. There is no built in preamp in the turntable, the preamp is in the tapedeck. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: WineX -- Update!
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 10:52, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Snipples nipples Well...Femme, I use Speedisk every week. I've been using Norton Utilities since 1989; AAMOF I think I still have the NU version 4.5 install disks somewhere around here. I agree that the good old days are gone...but so far I've been pretty OK with the flexibility of this incarnation of SD. At least the Norton 2000 Edition, anyway. I've stayed away from upgrades because of the dumb-down trend I've seen in winblows software. NU 2000 is probably the end of the road for me. I also use Windoctor to go over the registry and get rid of the ActiveX registry errors every time I do a new 98 install..which there are about 20 of them on every from-scratch install. It all comes together in a package with Norton Utilities, the same NU version that I've been using since year 2000. Haven't seen a problem; but I'm sure that there may be better stuff out there. BTW, if anybody has access to the Norton Utilities version 7 or version 8 install disks, I'd be willing to work out a deal. I've got Dos 7.10 systems I want to keep around, and I can't find older versions of NU around anymore. LX Thx LX. I meant I guess that my own some friends experience with it was pretty horrid. It fubared my OS more than once. :( NortonDeprivedFemme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: WineX -- Update!
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 02:05 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: whack Well, if everything goes fine from now on, I guess this thread is dead. If not, you certainly will. And : sorry for my language, I'm a little pissed off right now what with all this M$ lunacy. Kaj Haulrich. Kaj: Wait a while. You'll be way more than a little pissed off. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Making Linux Converts
Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 26 Aug 2003 2:54 am, Harv Nelson wrote: Watch an animation of the conversion process of a new Linux user http://ai9nl.shacknet.nu/images/linux_convert.gif Harv What did you view it with? I just got a low-res static pic. Takes a _long_ time to load, but I got the animation in the end (that's with Mozilla). Sir Robin -- Hackers appear to wear black more because it goes with everything and hides dirt than because they want to look like goths. - Eric Raymond Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: rpmfind dot net
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:43:53 -0400 Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: This page is temporarily closed in protest against software patents. Websites may soon be closed down regularly due to software patents. Software patents can get you prosecuted for publishing texts you wrote yourself! You will be redirected to http://swpat.ffii.org in 20 seconds for more information. To enter this site, click here Seems like some kind of European Patent battle I've not heard of, or am i getting some kind of strange redirect from rpmfind's website ? Exactly as it says, there is a protest going on against software patents due to be passed into law sometime soon. It's to generate awareness. Google it, tons of info. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ You have to run as fast as you can just to stay where you are. If you want to get anywhere, you'll have to run much faster. -- Lewis Carroll Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to get rid of old Windows Drive Mounts
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:57:32 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Have you checked your lilo configuration? Already solved. Just deleted them, but yes, I did check /etc/lilo.conf Good to see ya back! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ For fast-acting relief, try slowing down. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Apps
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:58:11 -0700 Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: One is an easy to use Firewall program (ZoneAlarm). Any suggestions. Mandrake comes with one built in, which you can configure with Webmin. Open a browser and in the address field: https://localhost:1 log in as root and configure the Shorewall firewall. Of course, a seperate, dedicated firewall is always better, but Shorewall will beat Zonealarm all to hell anyway. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ The price of success in philosophy is triviality. -- C. Glymour. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] another defragmentation question
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:12:07AM +0300, robin wrote: julie wrote: I dual boot Win 98SE and ran a defrag on the Windows partition. In doing so, I screwed up my Mandrake 9.0 super block, at least that was what the error reported. All attempts at repairing the super block (by using other locations) failed. Maybe it really was the partition tables. My question is, did the defragmentation of Windows cause this? If so, is there a way to defrag Windows and not mess up Mandrake? I don't think it's possible for defragging a Windows partition to affect your Linux partition in any way. The only time I've managed to screw up Linux from Windows was with Norton. I think it's possible for defragging Windoze to muck up Linux--I had the same thing Julie reported happen to me on a dual boot machine. Defragged Windoze, I could never boot into linux again, and I couldn't fix it from rescue mode, not using Partition Magic. I've now got a dual boot with XP, and I've decided I'll never defrag the XP. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Compaq is just plain weird
in fact, there never is a blinking cursor, the first thing that comes up is the red and white Compaq logo and an hourglass thingie. I hit F10 repeatedly, from the moment it powered on even, and all I got was akeyboard error... Well, that is the proper methind: hit F10 repeatedly, hoping the compaq is actually listening and catches one of them.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: rpmfind dot net
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:43:53PM -0400, Dan Gordon wrote: Has anyone visited rpmfind.net lately ? When I go there and do a software search I get this. This page is temporarily closed in protest against software patents. Websites may soon be closed down regularly due to software patents. Software patents can get you prosecuted for publishing texts you wrote yourself! You will be redirected to http://swpat.ffii.org in 20 seconds for more information. To enter this site, click here Seems like some kind of European Patent battle I've not heard of, or am i getting some kind of strange redirect from rpmfind's website ? That's just what it is. A ton of websites are planning to remove their home pages on a certain day in protest to coincide with a real, live demonstration. Why is it that the Europeans seem to be the only people with balls anymore? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ssh client -gui
I don't know gTelnet, but can't you just tell it host-name:8080 ? Why would you need a GUI ssh? If you connect to a number of fixed sites via ssh routinely, you should set up icons that run 'ssh foo.com' and then just click the icon that represents the desired system. Earlier revs of Slackware had a couple of ready made icons for xterms on different systems. Richard Urwin David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Apps
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 07:58 pm, Russ wrote: Hi All, I was wondering if you could help me with some advice. I have just jumped to only Linux on this computer. However there are a couple of apps that I would like to find equivalents to for Linux. One is an easy to use Firewall program (ZoneAlarm). Any suggestions. Second is a Clipboard program that you can save data in different groups like ClipMate. Thanks Russ Lots of firewall possibilities. Smoothwall is on the 9.1 download disks, it works well for me. Firestarter is another, do a google search on firewalls at http://www.google.com/linux That should be a good start. I know some folks have had problems with Smoothwall but I found that if you install it and then turn it off and connect with the internet and then turn it on again in MCC it works fine. You can do some configuration in the MCC gui and it does a good job of keeping out the bad guys. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The following packages have bad signatures:
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 07:38 pm, Anarky wrote: How come I often get: The following packages have bad signatures: bla bla Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) when urpmi-ing something? what does this 'bad signatures' mean? generally it means you do not have the gpg sig of the download sites owner. It has not stopped me from installing and I have had no problems. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: rpmfind dot net
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 08:43 pm, Dan Gordon wrote: Has anyone visited rpmfind.net lately ? When I go there and do a software search I get this. This page is temporarily closed in protest against software patents. Websites may soon be closed down regularly due to software patents. Software patents can get you prosecuted for publishing texts you wrote yourself! You will be redirected to http://swpat.ffii.org in 20 seconds for more information. To enter this site, click here Seems like some kind of European Patent battle I've not heard of, or am i getting some kind of strange redirect from rpmfind's website ? Regards, Dan Gordon No it is not a redirect, the Euro Parliment is going to vote on allowing software patents and these website changes are part of the protest. I hope they succeed. Software patents like Amazon's single click are a threat to the entire world of software inovation and Open source. See the link on the Mandrake Homepage for Patents. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Really great site for how-to's and a lot more
HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I mention from time to time, we have http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org pointing there right now. (if you are wondering, I own mdklinuxfaq.org). Don't worry, Anne reminds us *every chance she gets*...nag nag nag... I have laughed out loud many times in the last few days HayHillWire: I went over to the twiki site to browse: There's a desktop section just waiting for some pek-splanation. I gotta get on that... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TWIKI was: Really great site for how-to's and a lotmore
How big is the twik site (data storage wise) ? Is it being backed up? It sure would suck to lose it... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Open Source rides North
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 19:11, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Hello list. A little good news : Today the Nordic Council announced a common web ressource for OS applications. This council is a common forum for the governments and parliaments from Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Greenland, The Faroe Islands and Denmark. The site is still very basic, but I take it as a token that even our politicians are beginning to wake up. Especially the fact that even Denmark - who generally is considered a sub-Saharan country when it comes to IT - participates, saves my otherwise rotten day. The site can be found here : http://www.nordicos.org Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark. Sorry about your day, Kaj. But don't forget...we still love ya. :) LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Opinions on Software required
On Wednesday 27 Aug 2003 6:11 pm, Michael Lothian wrote: Hi everybody! (Sound like that guy from the simpsons) I was just wondering what the best software (preferably one with a nice gui) to do the following things... Convert CDs into Ogg files Grip is best, but konqueror can also do it.(Press the 'cog wheel' button at the bottom of the divider between left and right panes) Oh yes and whats the best way to get windows software working under linux? I've tried wine but I never can seem to get the blasterin thing working. Depends. For general office applications (2D graphics, Win4Lin is rock solid, but requires a valid Win98/WinMe license) Alternatively use Wine (requires no Windows license at all) But Wine can be tricky to get working, so many people use commercial implementations of Wine. Codeweavers Crossover - Guaranteed to work with many Office productivity apps like MS Office, Quicken etc www.codeweavers.com Transgaming WineX - Will work with several 3D games (but never the ones I actually own) www.transgaming.com The best solution to Windows apps IMHO is to find a Linux alternative instead :-) There are a vast array of Linux apps out there. (and even some good games) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transferring songs from cassette
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 06:58 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2003 05:50 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2003 02:41 pm, Michael Adams wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:06:11 -0500 snip Make that the phono input of a stereo capable of handling phono input. Some cassete recorders have phono inputs. An auxilliary input won't do. Also if memory serves there were two types of phono output at one stage (crystal and ceramic???) which used different output levels. Sheesh, i'm just telling everyone how ancient i yam. Actually on mine it is from the turntable to the tapedecks line in and then from the tape deck line out to the sound card phono jack. Works like a champ with gramofile. The tape deck does the preamp and filter and it sounds pretty good in .wav . YMMV Does the turntable have a pre-amp? Not sure who you are asking but on my setup it is just a technics turntable, no preamp. That did not come out right. There is no built in preamp in the turntable, the preamp is in the tapedeck. HTH -- It would probably be easy to add a dedicated preamp dnd make do without the tapedeck that also adds the possibilty of putting a equalizer and or digital signal processing equipment in line. At that point you may be able to clean up the old recordings to make them sound better than new, get rid of background hiss and pops etc. The DSP can work wonders for some of the old 1930s to 1960s radio shows. Marc KM5KW Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Fwd: defragmentation]
Tomas Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I do want to dual boot from a PowerBook G4. Doesn't Mandrake Linux require contiguous blocks to load into? Or is it magic enough to pick random blocks to load into? I believe you do need to defrag first. On windows, you have to defrag before shrinking a partition, too. Even after defragging, mandrake said the partition was too fragmented to shrink... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel with priority
Derek Jennings wrote: On Sunday 24 Aug 2003 9:57 am, Anarky wrote: I understand there is a newer linux kernel out there ... one which would know how to give higher priority ot processes I just started stuff like that .. any chance that will be included in 9.2? greets, No need to wait. It is in 9.1 already. Install the kernel-multimedia, the jackit sound server, and xmms-jack (all on your CDs) I installed those, did lilo rebooted it ... and X wouldn't even start up :-( I'm never gonna have that cool multimedia feature!! or am I??? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]How to Defrag XP Properly, WAS - Re: WineX -- Update!
Hi! I thought I'd posted my eXPeriences earlier, but looks like I forgot to. Anyway, I recently successfully converted my sisters HP machine with XP over to dual boot with 9.1 on the same drive, and hit all the same problems with defrag and repatitioning and no XP CD's, but the good news is that it is do-able with some free-trial windows tools. I now know more about WinXP than I ever wanted to, and I can say that Linux is now officially easier to install and use than WinXP anyday!!! Like my sister says It won't let me do anything!... The following description is of moving from an existing WinXP system with a single NTFS partition to a dual boot WinXP 3 partition and Linux multi-partition system, and assumes you will be using both systems actively. Let me explain those 3 WinXP partitions. NTFS is the WinXP default filesystem, which Linux can currently safely read, but writing is still unsafe, hence you need a separate FAT32 partition if you want to safely pass files back and forth between WinXP and Linux. It is also good practice in Windows (Linux too!) to have separate system and user data partitions (e.g. C:/ and D:/ drives in Windows, /usr and /home in Linux), so that you can screw-up/re-install your Windows system without losing all your user data. You could use the same FAT32 data sharing partition for your Windows user data, but FAT32 does not have the same security features as NTFS. On a single user system, that's OK, but on a multiple user system, it leaves your data open to other users, and any passing virus. To be safe, you should therefore have an NTFS C:/ drive with your system files, an NTFS D:/ drive with your user data files, and a FAT32 E:/ drive for sharing files with Linux. I'll leave it up to you to decide on relative sizes, but I found that C:/ needs to be at least 6Gb (!!!) for a basic WinXP install. While we're on the subject of multiple WinXP users, be aware that most WinXP installs default to single user mode, i.e. you are automatically logged in as the WinXP Owner account, the equivalent of the Linux root user. This is VERY BAD, so make sure you set up a proper user account without admin rights for everyday use. Now, onto the steps I followed. 1) First of all: back-up your Windows data files first!!! All the important user data files are now under the Documents and Settings folder in XP. This folder is roughly the XP equivalent of /home in Linux. If you haven't actually used the machine yet, then obviously don't bother :-) 2) Next check, defrag and check again your XP drive. The WinXP defragger is a brain-dead version of Diskkeeper, that only makes files contiguous and doesn't move them all together at the start of the disk. Instead, you can download a trial version of Diskkeeper Lite from www.executive.com, which is better than the XP version in moving files to the start of the disk, but still not as good as the full version as it leaves some supposedly unmovable system files splattered everywhere. You may want to turn off the XP swap file, as this cannot be moved by the defragger and may be in the middle of the disk. While logged in as Owner, go to Control Panel/System/Advanced/Performance Settings/Advanced/Virtual Memory and turn off the swap file. While you're in Control Panel/System, turn off System Restore for now, then use the built-in Disk Cleanup utility to delete all the old restore data and any other files you don't need for now. Uninstalling as much software and backed-up data can also help in extreme circumstances. Reboot, then run the defrag, followed by a disk check to be sure all is OK. It pays to run the defragger a few times over, with reboots in-between, to maximise the effect. 3) Next we resize the NTFS C:/ drive. While the Mdk 9.1 installer can safely resize NTFS partitions, it does so conservatively by only using the spare contiguous space at the end of the disk. It will not move any files to make more space. If you're lucky, you may already have all the space that you need for D:/, E:/ and Linux. If so, skip to the Mandrake 9.1 installation step. If you're unlucky and don't have enough space yet, you need to download the 30-day trial version of Boot It New Generation from www.booitng.com. This is a full scale boot manager which includes a fully featured partition manager, which can agressively resize NTFS partitions by moving files around. Download the file under Windows, extract it and install it on a floppy disk by running bootitng.exe (you could also create a boot CD, but that's overkill). Next reboot your machine from the floppy, from which BootItNG will run. The first question it asks is to click OK to install to the HD, don't! Instead click on cancel, which will take you into Maintenance Mode. In the GUI, click on Partition Work. You'll now have a list of partitions, select your NTFS system partition, click the resize button, choose the new size, and
Re: [newbie] OT: rpmfind dot net
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:02:34 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly as it says, there is a protest going on against software patents due to be passed into law sometime soon. It's to generate awareness. Google it, tons of info. Ok i will check it out, first I've heard of it though. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Wed Aug 27 23:23:24 EDT 2003 23:23:24 up 14:19, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.02 The world is coming to an end! Repent and return those library books! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]How to Defrag XP Properly, WAS - Re: WineX -- Update!
no it means they will put the system back exactly the way it was when you got it from teh dealer. What sucks is you can't reinstall XP w/out This seems to be the case with Dell, too. The corporate IT wants ease of tech support - they want to be able to define just exactly what a specific model of Dell is - software, hardware, addon's, and so forth. They don't want you tinkering and probably people have voided the warranty by opening up the case on said systems. The good news - maybe - is that warranty law forbids daid companies from adding these types of conditions to their warranty. At least that's my understanding, but IANAL and one should seek competent legal advice to see what your rights may be. But they do want to have a cookie-cutter approach. I first found this when I temped in early 2001 at a local high-tech co. had contracted to have a whole bunch of dell mini-towers and it was opined that each and every machine was a 100% duplicate inside and out. But of course this begs the question -- computer VARs and system houses are free to change out any and all components at a whim, depending on piece cost and availability. They'll say 10/100 NIC is included and it is either a) on the motherboard or b) any one of a hundred different cards, depending on who can ship in 1s quantity by next week. :) I learned the hard way. 1991 was the last year I bought a all in one type PC. Packard Hell it was. I'll never buy another all in one PC again. I've assembled the last few systems from piece parts, and I tend to upgrade in stages, moving as needed any newer items (drives etc) to the new system. FemMorphine David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: rpmfind dot net
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:11:48 -0400 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's just what it is. A ton of websites are planning to remove their home pages on a certain day in protest to coincide with a real, live demonstration. Why is it that the Europeans seem to be the only people with balls anymore? -- Its the first i ever heard about it so i will be doing the google thing to educate myself about it. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Wed Aug 27 23:26:15 EDT 2003 23:26:15 up 14:22, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 FATAL ERROR: x86 Architecture Found. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] wishing for mandrake 2.6 test3 kernel
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/initscripts-7.06-19mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/kernel-tmb-2.4.22.0.5.2tmb_mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-0.5.2tmb_mdk.i586.rpm is the source really necessary? I have no idea how big these downloads are so I don't dare do it yet :P 18 Megs for the kernel and 40Megs for the source. The source isn't necessary. I think that's the low latancy patch. Which this kernel includes. Hence why these kernels (eventually) become the Multimedia ones. woow!! Yes ... so you're saying this contains the low latency thing? YEY! I'm all into Multimedia. Got any idea if Mandrake 9.2 will include anything like this (a kernel with this support)? The multimedia kernel is included in mandrake. It's basically an old version of the tmb kernel. If you ask the author nicly he'll aply patches to the kernel that will help get your hardware working For me it was the latest DVB software for my Digital TV card and the Bluetooth patch. Let me know how you get on thanks a LOT!! I wish I could do urpmi some package and instead of it downloading it would just give me an exact list (maybe in a file) of neat addresses like you gave me so I could download anything like that:) so after downloading installing these I should be set an the only thing I'd have to do is select a different thing at boot time and nothing else in Linux would change? Wow! Now I'm afraid these packages will require a lot of dependencies ... in order to find that out I'd like to do something like 'urpmi kernel-tmb' .. but don't know exactly what to write as there is no 'kernel-tmb' package :P Download the files (the first 2) then type in urpmi exact file name for each one. I'm going to send you kernel-utils hitch is 17k as I can't seem to find it at the moment. All the dependancies for the kernel are in kernel utils. That's it. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Overclock!
Keep in mind my usual advice on this list is that hardware needs to be eliminated from any problems, specially if it's a ready made, in the first place. OC'd or not. OTOH, if it's there, RUN IT!! Windoze reviews: the current darlings are the nforce an newer KT 400a/600 chipset boards runnin AMD XP's. P4's are bitin the dust, still no decent chipsets to run on. OTOH, are these winsux reviews applicable to Linux? As far as chipsets go yes an no. nforce* chipset boards have several unresolved issues with Linux, gcc, an GNU. Forget anything SiS. As far as Winblows reviews on hardware sites, disregard, IMO, is usually the better idea. They have little to do with a real OS. So, just a report. I changed out a tired an old oc'd 1.4 Athlon (1.553g) on a Soyo KT133a chipset with sdram, for an XP 3000+ with Kingston DDR400 on an Aopen AK77-400 Max with a KT400a chipset. Didn't really wanna but the ancient (8 years!) ram was startin to fsck'up on the old mobo. Run hard, put up wet. Might'a been the cpu L caches anyhow... Pulled the case out from under the table, changed out the motherboard/ram/cpu. What'a heck, tryin boot. .. No problemo, harddisk recognized a differnet NIC (now onboard), different AC97, now 5.1 surround, and 9.2 cooker went about it's business. No disruption for aDSL or sound. HDD's love the new board /cpu/ram/ controllers. So went to testin and clockin. The Kingston ram was a convienice. I got it bundled with the cpu/mobo. It was a variable, even a concern since it's only sold by Mwave as Cas 3 DDR ram. After several weeks testin tho, the ram has performed flawlessly at Cas2.5, Ras/Cas 2, pre-Charge 2, at 2-bank, now DDR427. Way over it's specs. Ram is what'll do, an I'm not sure I've found the top of this Kingston yet. Still, I wish I'd gone to the trouble of gettin Crucial or Corsair. Currently (as I type), the XP is at 2301mhz (13x177, 354 FSB, PCI 35.2mhz) and rock steady. I keep inchin it up. Might go a bit or more further. I haven't tried reducin the multiplier and goin to a 200+ FSB yet. I reckon I'm better off stay'in with oc'd 166@ 177 since the PCI is only out'a spec @ 35.2mhz, an the AGP is just over 70mhz. Some view this mistakenly as overclocked. It's not. It's just out'a spec. Damn nVidia card was complain, but recent cooker updates to XFree86 cooled that off. (XFree86-4.3-19mdk) I know y'all believe memtest86 is _THE_ test, an I confess I run it first too. But it's a weak test. It sort'a sux. Better is mprime's #17, the torture test. Harder still, the acid test is, cpuburn's 'burnK7'. One or two passes with memtest is a breeze, run mprime's torture test thru test #1800 or so, run burnK7 for 25 minutes . then you know your hardware is stable. So far I am with an XP core at 2301, CL2.5-2-2-2 DDR427. So I gott'a XP Whatever (3600+?) that RUNS like a scalded ape. Glibc compiles are a lot shorter ;) No Winsux ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Opinions on Software required
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: Hi everybody! (Sound like that guy from the simpsons) I was just wondering what the best software (preferably one with a nice gui) to do the following things... Convert CDs into Ogg files Grip. I use RipperX - like its interface. Cheers Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Apps
That is all true BUT I have been running Linux for 3 years now with no special software and I have not been cracked or had any virii or security problems of any kind. I think you'll find that most of your security concerns just melt away just by switching to Linux. It is sad really, Linux lulls you into a (false?) sense of security after a while. Windows is insecure by design, Linux is not, that is the key. Cheers Jason Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2003 07:58 pm, Russ wrote: Hi All, I was wondering if you could help me with some advice. I have just jumped to only Linux on this computer. However there are a couple of apps that I would like to find equivalents to for Linux. One is an easy to use Firewall program (ZoneAlarm). Any suggestions. Second is a Clipboard program that you can save data in different groups like ClipMate. Thanks Russ Lots of firewall possibilities. Smoothwall is on the 9.1 download disks, it works well for me. Firestarter is another, do a google search on firewalls at http://www.google.com/linux That should be a good start. I know some folks have had problems with Smoothwall but I found that if you install it and then turn it off and connect with the internet and then turn it on again in MCC it works fine. You can do some configuration in the MCC gui and it does a good job of keeping out the bad guys. HTH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: rpmfind dot net
Check out this site: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/2/simple/2 more software and a better interface anyway ;) Cheers Jason HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:43:53 -0400 Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: This page is temporarily closed in protest against software patents. Websites may soon be closed down regularly due to software patents. Software patents can get you prosecuted for publishing texts you wrote yourself! You will be redirected to http://swpat.ffii.org in 20 seconds for more information. To enter this site, click here Seems like some kind of European Patent battle I've not heard of, or am i getting some kind of strange redirect from rpmfind's website ? Exactly as it says, there is a protest going on against software patents due to be passed into law sometime soon. It's to generate awareness. Google it, tons of info. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The following packages have bad signatures:
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 3:53 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2003 07:38 pm, Anarky wrote: How come I often get: The following packages have bad signatures: bla bla Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) when urpmi-ing something? what does this 'bad signatures' mean? generally it means you do not have the gpg sig of the download sites owner. It has not stopped me from installing and I have had no problems. HTH The main thing to consider is the source of what you are downloading, and whether you have reason to trust it. If it is from a site used and recommended by regular contributors on this list, then you can simply accept the packages and feel quite safe. If it's from a site you don't really know, ask her about it first. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] nvidia chipset in ASUS A7N8X deluxe motherboard- soundnvidia.o
Frans Ketelaars wrote: snip On Monday 25 August 2003 04:04, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have the above motherboard. mdk stock kernel drivers were working ok. However I installed NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0261.mdk91up_2.4.21_0.13.athlon.rpm obtained from nvidia site. The kernel says: Loading sound module (i810_audio) succeeded. I suggest changing i810_audio to nvaudio. snip I have the same motherboard and changing i810_audio to nvaudio worked just great HTH Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.22-0.5.2tmb Kde 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Apps (hijack - sorry)
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 3:13 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:58:11 -0700 Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: One is an easy to use Firewall program (ZoneAlarm). Any suggestions. Mandrake comes with one built in, which you can configure with Webmin. Open a browser and in the address field: https://localhost:1 log in as root and configure the Shorewall firewall. Of course, a seperate, dedicated firewall is always better, but Shorewall will beat Zonealarm all to hell anyway. I've yet to look at Shorewall. Can you point me at where the config files will be found? As you know, I like to back up the original files before I start mucking around - just in case Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Time for Microsoft to cede co-existance..
Interesting article. http://www.devx.com/opensource/Article/16901 regards Franki http://htmlfixit.com The Blaster virus said: Billy Gates, why do you make this possible? Stop making money and fix your software. Valid points don't you think? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying
Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:35:34PM -0400, Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:26:17PM -0500, Dennis Myers wrote: horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that somebody thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux? Wasn't there a worm recently that exploited mySQL? Todd This is what I was thinking of: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.slapper.worm.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com wot only 3,500+ *nix boxes out of 20+ million! how many million win$ux boxes are affected by the myriad of nasties daily encountered when you run the demon OS? Peleeease! I am constantly asked to help people rid their Redmond based evil-OS systems of trojans/worms/virii and spyware. I, like many other responsible nix users, run a firewall, update regularly to prevent intrusions and maintain the security of my *nix boxes and run a virus checker to make sure I don't pass on any win$ux nasties to other win$ux users I correspond with. I have been running *nix systems for 2 years now and never have I been unable to use my systems because of trojans/worms/virii and spyware problems. My house recently became an MS OS free site with 3 boxes running Mdk9.1 and 1 box running MDK9.2 cooker. Shite!! that means I owe SCO heaps of pesos! LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH (which they can claim from my estate - behind all of my other creditors). In the last week there are now 3 more *nix converts in my circle of aquaintences who are amazed that they no longer have continual problems with intrusions to their boxes. - vive la penguinistas!! Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.22-0.5.2tmb Kde 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TWIKI was: Really great site for how-to's and a lot more
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 3:41 am, Eric Huff wrote: How big is the twik site (data storage wise) ? Is it being backed up? It sure would suck to lose it... eric Don't know about the size - but I'd be surprised if it isn't being backed up. Vincent??? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFCE4 rc3
Ken Rhodes wrote: Alright! I am delighted to find that XFCE4 rc3 is out. Now can any one tell me if the redhat 9.0 rpm tarball with all the goodies will install on Mandrake 9.1? Just call me Casper Milquetoast. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Why not just get Mandrake RPMS from http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ I haven't tried the RC3 yet, but the RC2 worked great! Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Fwd: defragmentation]
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 08:05, Tomas Taylor wrote: Eric, Yes, I do want to dual boot from a PowerBook G4. Doesn't Mandrake Linux require contiguous blocks to load into? Or is it magic enough to pick random blocks to load into? Eric Huff wrote: A few days ago I ordered Linux for PPC 9.1 and Norton's Utilities 8.0 My plan is to split the 40GB hard drive on my PowerBook G4 into equal partitions. You have no reason to defrag a linux file system. Send Norton back. I htink maybe he wants to dual boot with the mac os? Does that need defragged? Then the idea here would be to definitely defrag the MacOS partition (for normality as well as safety) then afterwards install linux. -- Thu Aug 28 18:05:00 EST 2003 18:05:00 up 3 days, 7:51, 2 users, load average: 1.18, 1.33, 1.26 - |____ | illawarra computer services| | /-oo /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * While walking down a crowded City street the other day, I heard a little urchin To a comrade turn and say, Say, Chimmey, lemme tell youse, I'd be happy as a clam If only I was de feller dat Me mudder t'inks I am. She t'inks I am a wonder, My friends, be yours a life of toil An' she knows her little ladOr undiluted joy, Could never mix wit' nuttin'You can learn a wholesome lesson Dat was ugly, mean or bad. From that small, untutored boy. Oh, lot o' times I sit and t'inkDon't aim to be an earthly saint How nice, 'twould be, gee whiz! With eyes fixed on a star: If a feller was de feller Just try to be the fellow that Dat his mudder t'inks he is. Your mother thinks you are. -- Will S. Adkin, If I Only Was the Fellow Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Really great site for how-to's and a lot more
On Wednesday 27 Aug 2003 11:44 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: That sounds an excelent idea, Frankie. The $6 is reasonable enough - only problem is that I haven't a clue how to do a re-direct g Anne Check out http://www.dyndns.org/ There are some FREE services there ... re-directs, etc. (this is the service i use) Harv Interesting, thanks Anne Or, since you're in the UK, I use http://www.123-reg.co.uk I've heard some good things about them, too Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transferring songs from cassette
snip Does the turntable have a pre-amp? Not sure who you are asking but on my setup it is just a technics turntable, no preamp. That did not come out right. There is no built in preamp in the turntable, the preamp is in the tapedeck. HTH In my (possibly wrong) understanding of turntable output the signal is 1.77-56.2mV. Typical line in input values expected are in the 0.1-5.6V range. I therefore suspect that your turntable has its own pre-amp on board. If so you could theoretically plug from turntable straight to soundcard with the right cable. This would bypass added noise which gets amplified exponentially. It would probably be easy to add a dedicated preamp dnd make do without the tapedeck that also adds the possibilty of putting a equalizer and or digital signal processing equipment in line. At that point you may be able to clean up the old recordings to make them sound better than new, get rid of background hiss and pops etc. The DSP can work wonders for some of the old 1930s to 1960s radio shows. Get a good signal into a line in jack on a good sound card and you can do all the digital cleaning up once it is a WAV file, without loosing the original. Many computer magazines have published oodles of howtos on the subject. Many WAV editiors have filters up to the task. This can be readgusted without having to play the LP over again. A DSP may in itself amplify noise at the expense of signal as much as it cleans it up. Graphic equalisers are known for this. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Converting sound files? (recording from cassette, pt2)
Title: RE: [newbie] Converting sound files? (recording from cassette, pt2) -Original Message- From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Converting sound files? (recording from cassette, pt2) snip sigh I guess I'm just gonna have to break down and buy a boom-box that has true line out. Thanks to Richard, Brant, The Other, and David for the replies. (and anyone else I missed!) :-) When I decided it was time to start ripping my tape and (gasp) vinyl collections, I went to an audio equipment repair shop, and bought a used, repaired and abandoned TEAC deck for $50USD -- much better sound quality than I expect from a boombox and pretty cheap. I'll go back for a turntable when we get through another 200 tapes or so. --Matthew
Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:36:58PM +1000, Graham Banks wrote: Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:35:34PM -0400, Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:26:17PM -0500, Dennis Myers wrote: horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that somebody thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux? Wasn't there a worm recently that exploited mySQL? Todd This is what I was thinking of: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.slapper.worm.html wot only 3,500+ *nix boxes out of 20+ million! how many million win$ux boxes are affected by the myriad of nasties daily encountered when you run the demon OS? Peleeease! The question wasn't whether there was a virus/worm/trojan problem similar to Windoze, the OP was asking if there was any indication of a worm infecting linux, which there clearly is. t Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Overclock!
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 01:22, Tom Brinkman wrote: Keep in mind my usual advice on this list is that hardware needs to be eliminated from any problems, specially if it's a ready made, in the first place. OC'd or not. OTOH, if it's there, RUN IT!! Windoze reviews: the current darlings are the nforce an newer KT 400a/600 chipset boards runnin AMD XP's. P4's are bitin the dust, still no decent chipsets to run on. OTOH, are these winsux reviews applicable to Linux? As far as chipsets go yes an no. nforce* chipset boards have several unresolved issues with Linux, gcc, an GNU. Forget anything SiS. As far as Winblows reviews on hardware sites, disregard, IMO, is usually the better idea. They have little to do with a real OS. So, just a report. I changed out a tired an old oc'd 1.4 Athlon (1.553g) on a Soyo KT133a chipset with sdram, for an XP 3000+ with Kingston DDR400 on an Aopen AK77-400 Max with a KT400a chipset. Didn't really wanna but the ancient (8 years!) ram was startin to fsck'up on the old mobo. Run hard, put up wet. Might'a been the cpu L caches anyhow... Pulled the case out from under the table, changed out the motherboard/ram/cpu. What'a heck, tryin boot. .. No problemo, harddisk recognized a differnet NIC (now onboard), different AC97, now 5.1 surround, and 9.2 cooker went about it's business. No disruption for aDSL or sound. HDD's love the new board /cpu/ram/ controllers. So went to testin and clockin. The Kingston ram was a convienice. I got it bundled with the cpu/mobo. It was a variable, even a concern since it's only sold by Mwave as Cas 3 DDR ram. After several weeks testin tho, the ram has performed flawlessly at Cas2.5, Ras/Cas 2, pre-Charge 2, at 2-bank, now DDR427. Way over it's specs. Ram is what'll do, an I'm not sure I've found the top of this Kingston yet. Still, I wish I'd gone to the trouble of gettin Crucial or Corsair. Currently (as I type), the XP is at 2301mhz (13x177, 354 FSB, PCI 35.2mhz) and rock steady. I keep inchin it up. Might go a bit or more further. I haven't tried reducin the multiplier and goin to a 200+ FSB yet. I reckon I'm better off stay'in with oc'd 166@ 177 since the PCI is only out'a spec @ 35.2mhz, an the AGP is just over 70mhz. Some view this mistakenly as overclocked. It's not. It's just out'a spec. Damn nVidia card was complain, but recent cooker updates to XFree86 cooled that off. (XFree86-4.3-19mdk) I know y'all believe memtest86 is _THE_ test, an I confess I run it first too. But it's a weak test. It sort'a sux. Better is mprime's #17, the torture test. Harder still, the acid test is, cpuburn's 'burnK7'. One or two passes with memtest is a breeze, run mprime's torture test thru test #1800 or so, run burnK7 for 25 minutes . then you know your hardware is stable. So far I am with an XP core at 2301, CL2.5-2-2-2 DDR427. So I gott'a XP Whatever (3600+?) that RUNS like a scalded ape. Glibc compiles are a lot shorter ;) No Winsux ;) damn what a screamer... I am sure jealous. What became of the old box, or parts? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Overclock!
On Thursday 28 August 2003 01:22 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: snip I know y'all believe memtest86 is _THE_ test, an I confess I run it first too. But it's a weak test. It sort'a sux. Better is mprime's #17, the torture test. Harder still, the acid test is, cpuburn's 'burnK7'. One or two passes with memtest is a breeze, run mprime's torture test thru test #1800 or so, run burnK7 for 25 minutes . then you know your hardware is stable. So far I am with an XP core at 2301, CL2.5-2-2-2 DDR427. Tom, I know you remember when I was having the spontaneous reboot problems? Well, you're right about memtest - I ran it overnight 2/3 different times and never found anything - cpuburnnow thats *another* story! So I gott'a XP Whatever (3600+?) that RUNS like a scalded ape. Glibc compiles are a lot shorter ;) No Winsux ;) You're better off. :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] another defragmentation question
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 03:50, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 03:22, julie wrote: I dual boot Win 98SE and ran a defrag on the Windows partition. In doing so, I screwed up my Mandrake 9.0 super block, at least that was what the error reported. All attempts at repairing the super block (by using other locations) failed. Maybe it really was the partition tables. My question is, did the defragmentation of Windows cause this? If so, is there a way to defrag Windows and not mess up Mandrake? To avoid the flames ... I use PageMaker for work and although Scribus is coming along nicely, there are things that the print shops want that I have yet to find possible in Scribus. Julie in the Pacific Northwest Defrag'ing a Windows partition in no way can damage an ext2, ext3 partition (a linux partition) because it cannot see it, hence, cannot access it. OTOH, running FDISK can and will damage an existing linux installation or partition(s) wrong bud. if the defrag or scan disk (most likely scan disk) screw with the last sector of the partition, it is possible, if the next logical partition starts right away, that the next partition start sector will be fubared, and not allow access to that partition. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] another defragmentation question
On 28 Aug 2003 07:17:54 -0400 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: wrong bud. well, wrong bud is better than bad bud, at least in my experience. Bad bud just gives me headaches. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Murphy was an optimist. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Time for Microsoft to cede co-existance..
Hi It is an interesting article. I think this guy is basically saying possibly several things: a) that Microsoft should admit defeat (accept that it can't compete with Linux as it gets better and better) and make its products fully compatible with wine in order to keep in the market? b) Maybe even develop its own open source alternative to wine that runs and supports all of its current applications? c) Or even a Microsoft distribution of Linux (Linux that looks and feels like Windows and comes with all the familiar Microsoft applications all set up and ready to run)? Sounds scary to me, Martha pass me the shotgun I think there is trouble a brewin Sounds like a receipt for a SCO like scenario but hundred times worst. -- John Willby Registered Linux user number 321644 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 92791912 Linux is like a wigwam - No Gates, no Windows, Apache inside. 15:00:32 up 7 days, 2:15, 2 users, load average: 5.02, 5.08, 5.00 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] Lilo
How do I make win2k default boot? (lilo) Coworker will mutiny if I give him an extra step to deal with. Replace coworker is not an option. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Apps (hijack - sorry)
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 3:17 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 10:32 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 3:13 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:58:11 -0700 Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: One is an easy to use Firewall program (ZoneAlarm). Any suggestions. Mandrake comes with one built in, which you can configure with Webmin. Open a browser and in the address field: https://localhost:1 log in as root and configure the Shorewall firewall. Of course, a seperate, dedicated firewall is always better, but Shorewall will beat Zonealarm all to hell anyway. I've yet to look at Shorewall. Can you point me at where the config files will be found? As you know, I like to back up the original files before I start mucking around - just in case Anne Shorewall's config files are in /etc/shorewall They are well documented. More info can be sound at www.shorewall.net Shorewall allows you to try out different configurations. Copy the shorewall config files to /etc/shorewall/test Make any changes in the test folder then enter shorewall try test Shorewall will attempt to run with the new config. If it does not work it will revert back to the old config after 20 seconds. When you are happy with the new config, copy it back to the regular folder. derek Thanks, Derek. It won't be tomorrow, but this is on my list of fairly high priorities to look at. I have a hardware router/firewall, so this would be a secondary, but I think it's still worth doing. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Win XP
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 03:34:19AM -0400, Lee Wiggers wrote: I just bought a Dell Inspiron 1100. Reading all lately on the dual boot problems w/winxp, I have to ask: Is there any reason to keep winxp on the computer? I own a win2k that seems to work just fine. Can't I nuke the drive, put win2k on first and then 9.1 like I just did with the old Toshiba laptop? Something satisfying about giving BG the one finger salute, anyway. My business requires that I have winsomething for now, but that too will pass. Lee If you scrap xp, be sure to refuse the license and try to get a refund from Dell for the os. t Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Apps (hijack - sorry)
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 10:32 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 3:13 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:58:11 -0700 Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: One is an easy to use Firewall program (ZoneAlarm). Any suggestions. Mandrake comes with one built in, which you can configure with Webmin. Open a browser and in the address field: https://localhost:1 log in as root and configure the Shorewall firewall. Of course, a seperate, dedicated firewall is always better, but Shorewall will beat Zonealarm all to hell anyway. I've yet to look at Shorewall. Can you point me at where the config files will be found? As you know, I like to back up the original files before I start mucking around - just in case Anne Shorewall's config files are in /etc/shorewall They are well documented. More info can be sound at www.shorewall.net Shorewall allows you to try out different configurations. Copy the shorewall config files to /etc/shorewall/test Make any changes in the test folder then enter shorewall try test Shorewall will attempt to run with the new config. If it does not work it will revert back to the old config after 20 seconds. When you are happy with the new config, copy it back to the regular folder. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Overclock!
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 1:41 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 28 August 2003 01:22 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: snip I know y'all believe memtest86 is _THE_ test, an I confess I run it first too. But it's a weak test. It sort'a sux. Better is mprime's #17, the torture test. Harder still, the acid test is, cpuburn's 'burnK7'. One or two passes with memtest is a breeze, run mprime's torture test thru test #1800 or so, run burnK7 for 25 minutes . then you know your hardware is stable. So far I am with an XP core at 2301, CL2.5-2-2-2 DDR427. Tom, I know you remember when I was having the spontaneous reboot problems? Well, you're right about memtest - I ran it overnight 2/3 different times and never found anything - cpuburnnow thats *another* story! Care to tell us more? My granddaughter's 1-year-old (win98) box suffers from recurrent problems, and I'm wondering if this test would help. So - what's involved in running it, how risky is it, and what sort of reporting does it give? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Overclock!
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:22:03 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind my usual advice on this list is that hardware needs to be eliminated from any problems, specially if it's a ready made, in the first place. OC'd or not. OTOH, if it's there, RUN IT!! Windoze reviews: the current darlings are the nforce an newer KT 400a/600 chipset boards runnin AMD XP's. P4's are bitin the dust, still no decent chipsets to run on. OTOH, are these winsux reviews applicable to Linux? As far as chipsets go yes an no. nforce* chipset boards have several unresolved issues with Linux, gcc, an GNU. Forget anything SiS. As far as Winblows reviews on hardware sites, disregard, IMO, is usually the better idea. They have little to do with a real OS. So, just a report. I changed out a tired an old oc'd 1.4 Athlon (1.553g) on a Soyo KT133a chipset with sdram, for an XP 3000+ with Kingston DDR400 on an Aopen AK77-400 Max with a KT400a chipset. Didn't really wanna but the ancient (8 years!) ram was startin to fsck'up on the old mobo. Run hard, put up wet. Might'a been the cpu L caches anyhow... Pulled the case out from under the table, changed out the motherboard/ram/cpu. What'a heck, tryin boot. .. No problemo, harddisk recognized a differnet NIC (now onboard), different AC97, now 5.1 surround, and 9.2 cooker went about it's business. No disruption for aDSL or sound. HDD's love the new board /cpu/ram/ controllers. So went to testin and clockin. The Kingston ram was a convienice. I got it bundled with the cpu/mobo. It was a variable, even a concern since it's only sold by Mwave as Cas 3 DDR ram. After several weeks testin tho, the ram has performed flawlessly at Cas2.5, Ras/Cas 2, pre-Charge 2, at 2-bank, now DDR427. Way over it's specs. Ram is what'll do, an I'm not sure I've found the top of this Kingston yet. Still, I wish I'd gone to the trouble of gettin Crucial or Corsair. Currently (as I type), the XP is at 2301mhz (13x177, 354 FSB, PCI 35.2mhz) and rock steady. I keep inchin it up. Might go a bit or more further. I haven't tried reducin the multiplier and goin to a 200+ FSB yet. I reckon I'm better off stay'in with oc'd 166@ 177 since the PCI is only out'a spec @ 35.2mhz, an the AGP is just over 70mhz. Some view this mistakenly as overclocked. It's not. It's just out'a spec. Damn nVidia card was complain, but recent cooker updates to XFree86 cooled that off. (XFree86-4.3-19mdk) I know y'all believe memtest86 is _THE_ test, an I confess I run it first too. But it's a weak test. It sort'a sux. Better is mprime's #17, the torture test. Harder still, the acid test is, cpuburn's 'burnK7'. One or two passes with memtest is a breeze, run mprime's torture test thru test #1800 or so, run burnK7 for 25 minutes . then you know your hardware is stable. So far I am with an XP core at 2301, CL2.5-2-2-2 DDR427. So I gott'a XP Whatever (3600+?) that RUNS like a scalded ape. Glibc compiles are a lot shorter ;) No Winsux ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas So what were you needing your newbie help with Tom? -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls
Hello Russ, Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 9:55:48 PM, you wrote: R Besides, I know next to nothing about various types of connections R and whatnot. So trying to set this firewall up manually would be a R disaster. I would agree. If you can't find a good front end, it would be better to try to track down a pre-configured set of 'rules' with liberal comments, and, if the comments are well done for beginners, adjust them for your particular situation. R ZoneAlarm was quick and easy Do you want this program to access R the net? yes or no nuff said. I don't think you can get this with ANY configuration in Mandrake because, as I understand it, iptables is NOT application-aware as are several firewalls for Windoze. IMHO, this is a great oversight in protecting individual computers from 'calling home', as trojans or snoopware might do. OTOH, I might have missed how to or what can do this. If so, perhaps one of our experts can tell me how to do it. Briefly, for example, I would like ONLY Opera and Mozilla to be able to use port 80 out, and to alert me if anything else tries to use this port. How can I do that? R Before I asked I did do a search for firewall programs. There are R many. I was looking at Firestarter and Guarddog. Each seem to want R Gnome or KDE. Are these required simply to configure but still R works while logged into the other (KDE or Gnome)? I believe these are all just front ends for iptables, the actual 'guts' built into the kernel that does the firewalling. As such I don't think they would have to run to get 'firewalling', but please correct this if not true (I'm still rather newbie-ish). R Is one better than the other? or is it six of one and half a dozen of R the other? Any other possible candidates? They are all just ways of translating between desired firewall behaviors expressed in a comprehensible language (German, English, etc) and the iptables syntax (an initially incomprehensible language you would have to learn to get iptables to work). Many times, Linux users will insist that everyone learn these new 'languages', but wide acceptance will depend on how easy it is to get desired functionality WITHOUT having to learn these new 'languages'. I think a good set of iptables with EXTENSIVE comments FOR BEGINNERS might be one of the best ways to get a good firewall. R I am on a cable modem with a router that connects 2 computers to the R modem (if that matters) Might your router have a 'real' firewall? If so, it matters a lot. :-) You might already be well protected if it does. -- HTH, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Making Linux Converts
On Thursday August 28 2003 04:34 am, Anne Wilson wrote: sir robin: Takes a _long_ time to load, but I got the animation in the end (that's with Mozilla). Have to say, after several attempts to get it, then the long load, it was disappointingly short Anne Konqueror works fine too. Yes it was short but cute. Sort'a like me ;) There was a similar clip a while back where the one penguin sticks his foot out real quick, and the innocent one trips over it. Ran a little longer. I reckon HaywireMac was involved in both episodes, but for the life of me I can't think of anybody to play the innocent one ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:14:26 -0400 dlwiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: How do I make win2k default boot? (lilo) Either edit /etc/lilo.conf manually, or in Mandrake Control Center IIRC, there is an option to do this in /etc/lilo.conf, just switch the default=linux bit...pretty simple. then, as I am reminded time and again, run lilo to set the change. Coworker will mutiny if I give him an extra step to deal with. You know what to do with mutineers, don't you? Replace coworker is not an option. ROTFLMAO! Too bad. Is this co-worker a significant other type? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ The Poems, all three hundred of them, may be summed up in one of their phrases: Let our thoughts be correct. -- Confucius Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo
How do I make win2k default boot? (lilo) as root: edit /etc/lilo.conf and change the default line, then run lilo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:53:49 -0700 rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I don't think you can get this with ANY configuration in Mandrake because, as I understand it, iptables is NOT application-aware as are several firewalls for Windoze. IMHO, this is a great oversight in protecting individual computers from 'calling home', as trojans or snoopware might do. Trojans are better checked with chkrootkit (sp?) anyway, IMHO. The problem with this so-called application awareness in something like ZoneAlarm is: what if the Trojan disguises itself as Mozilla? Or infects Mozilla? ZoneAlarm is a joke, but it's better than *no* joke I guess, except in the sense it might give one a false sense of security. OTOH, I might have missed how to or what can do this. If so, perhaps one of our experts can tell me how to do it. Briefly, for example, I would like ONLY Opera and Mozilla to be able to use port 80 out, and to alert me if anything else tries to use this port. How can I do that? If you have shorewall installed (I don't so I can't check), go into Webmin and look, I'll betcha dollars to donuts that you can assign application awareness of some kind, but...see above. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Remember, Grasshopper, falling down 1000 stairs begins by tripping over the first one. -- Confusion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reinstalling WinMe and Grub
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erylon Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with HaywireMac. Install a newer distro. If you have a slow connection, either buy a boxed set or get the download version from Cheapbytes, or someplace like it. If you need to save something, you can even back it up to the Windows partition. Then Install Mandrake9.1. Leave Windows alone at this time. After 9.1 is up and running, copy your saved files from the WinMe partition to 9.1. Make a boot disk (just like HaywireMac says!), and check to see that it actually works. Re-install WinMe onto the Fat32 partition. Boot with the 9.1 install CD, and at the first screen hit the F1 key and type rescue without the quotes. Follow the instructions and you'll get to a place that asks if you want to re-install the bootloader (I like lilo better than grub, btw--I think most users still use lilo)--do it. Upgrading to a newer distro is definitely on the list, but I'd rather take things one at a time. Is there any reason I should NOT reinstall WinMe before upgrading the Linux side? Thanks. -- Mark Shaw contact info at homepage -- http://www.panix.com/~mshaw There are 10 types of people in the world: those who can count in binary, and those who cannot. -unknown Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Firewall apps
Russ, quick question, do you have an old 486 laying around.. if so you should try IPCOP..its quick and easy. and when your secure in your knowledge about IPTABLES.. you can go and setup your linux box as a firewall.. I have a SOHO setup in my private (home school) here in japan 12 boxes, multi platformed everything from M$98 to MDK9.1 and I've had no problems since I started IPCOP. please note that ipcop needs its own box.. its 100% firewall.. and you can access it from any station. just an idea from a newbie to a newbie!! -- Gavin Rollins C/O GES Japan Sent 2u on a M$ free system! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]How to Defrag XP Properly, WAS - Re: WineX -- Update!
On Thursday 28 August 2003 03:53 am, John Layt wrote: Hi! I thought I'd posted my eXPeriences earlier, but looks like I forgot to. Anyway, I recently successfully converted my sisters HP machine with XP over to dual boot with 9.1 on the same drive, and hit all the same problems with defrag and repatitioning and no XP CD's, but the good news is that it is do-able with some free-trial windows tools. I now know more about WinXP than I ever wanted to, and I can say that Linux is now officially easier to install and use than WinXP anyday!!! Like my sister says It won't let me do anything!... The following description is of moving from an existing WinXP system with a single NTFS partition to a dual boot WinXP 3 partition and Linux multi-partition system, and assumes you will be using both systems actively. Let me explain those 3 WinXP partitions. NTFS is the WinXP default filesystem, which Linux can currently safely read, but writing is still unsafe, hence you need a separate FAT32 partition if you want to safely pass files back and forth between WinXP and Linux. It is also good practice in Windows (Linux too!) to have separate system and user data partitions (e.g. C:/ and D:/ drives in Windows, /usr and /home in Linux), so that you can screw-up/re-install your Windows system without losing all your user data. You could use the same FAT32 data sharing partition for your Windows user data, but FAT32 does not have the same security features as NTFS. On a single user system, that's OK, but on a multiple user system, it leaves your data open to other users, and any passing virus. To be safe, you should therefore have an NTFS C:/ drive with your system files, an NTFS D:/ drive with your user data files, and a FAT32 E:/ drive for sharing files with Linux. I'll leave it up to you to decide on relative sizes, but I found that C:/ needs to be at least 6Gb (!!!) for a basic WinXP install. While we're on the subject of multiple WinXP users, be aware that most WinXP installs default to single user mode, i.e. you are automatically logged in as the WinXP Owner account, the equivalent of the Linux root user. This is VERY BAD, so make sure you set up a proper user account without admin rights for everyday use. Now, onto the steps I followed. 1) First of all: back-up your Windows data files first!!! All the important user data files are now under the Documents and Settings folder in XP. This folder is roughly the XP equivalent of /home in Linux. If you haven't actually used the machine yet, then obviously don't bother :-) 2) Next check, defrag and check again your XP drive. The WinXP defragger is a brain-dead version of Diskkeeper, that only makes files contiguous and doesn't move them all together at the start of the disk. Instead, you can download a trial version of Diskkeeper Lite from www.executive.com, which is better than the XP version in moving files to the start of the disk, but still not as good as the full version as it leaves some supposedly unmovable system files splattered everywhere. You may want to turn off the XP swap file, as this cannot be moved by the defragger and may be in the middle of the disk. While logged in as Owner, go to Control Panel/System/Advanced/Performance Settings/Advanced/Virtual Memory and turn off the swap file. While you're in Control Panel/System, turn off System Restore for now, then use the built-in Disk Cleanup utility to delete all the old restore data and any other files you don't need for now. Uninstalling as much software and backed-up data can also help in extreme circumstances. Reboot, then run the defrag, followed by a disk check to be sure all is OK. It pays to run the defragger a few times over, with reboots in-between, to maximise the effect. 3) Next we resize the NTFS C:/ drive. While the Mdk 9.1 installer can safely resize NTFS partitions, it does so conservatively by only using the spare contiguous space at the end of the disk. It will not move any files to make more space. If you're lucky, you may already have all the space that you need for D:/, E:/ and Linux. If so, skip to the Mandrake 9.1 installation step. If you're unlucky and don't have enough space yet, you need to download the 30-day trial version of Boot It New Generation from www.booitng.com. This is a full scale boot manager which includes a fully featured partition manager, which can agressively resize NTFS partitions by moving files around. Download the file under Windows, extract it and install it on a floppy disk by running bootitng.exe (you could also create a boot CD, but that's overkill). Next reboot your machine from the floppy, from which BootItNG will run. The first question it asks is to click OK to install to the HD, don't! Instead click on cancel, which will take you into Maintenance Mode. In the GUI, click on Partition Work. You'll now have a list of partitions, select your
Re: [newbie] Compaq is just plain weird [Closed]
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:01:53 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I thought I would create a seperate P2P server using that infamous old Compaq POS I got for free, so I installed MLDonkey, and set it running. 1. The Compaq will not respond to ssh or vnc unless I hit the any key. 2. Even MLDonkey seems to stop running or downloading unless I hit the any key. What is up with this crap? Check this out. I just installed MLDonkey on the even *older* IBM P166 w/ 96MB RAM (already functioning as me webserver), and it outperformed that Comcrap POS 100 to 1. I already have Matrix Reloaded, just started the DL yesterday. LOL! Lesson: Never, ever, even if it is *free*, use a Compaq, if you have *any other alternative*. I'm saving on electricity *and* stress. :-D -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ You can't run away forever, But there's nothing wrong with getting a good head start. -- Jim Steinman, Rock and Roll Dreams Come Through Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ssh client -gui
David E. Fox wrote: I don't know gTelnet, but can't you just tell it host-name:8080 ? Why would you need a GUI ssh? If you connect to a number of fixed sites via ssh routinely, you should set up icons that run 'ssh foo.com' and then just click the icon that represents the desired system. Earlier revs of Slackware had a couple of ready made icons for xterms on different systems. he he .. yeah .. I discouvered that running 'Eterm -e ssh ' is just as handy as running a gui .. and when it's got a shortcut :P ... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: WineX -- Update!
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 04:31 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Will it violate your warranty to go inside the machine? LX Yes, I think so. But I don't think that warranty is worth more than the paper it is written on anyway. So I don't care. I've opened and tinkered with boxes before, so why worry. Besides, in the manual for the box there is a *howto* about adding another drive, so maybe HP is better than most. And thanks a lot for your kind reply on my rotten day, Lyvim. Bill Gates and his crappy OS drove me nuts. I'm in a better mood now, what with Mozart tickling my ears. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 5:55 am, Russ wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the responses. I tried https://localhost:1; but the connection was refused. You need to install the webmin package first. Besides, I know next to nothing about various types of connections and whatnot. So trying to set this firewall up manually would be a disaster. ZoneAlarm was quick and easy Do you want this program to access the net? yes or no nuff said. The Firewall GUI in Mandrake Control Centre could not be easier. On or Off! Before I asked I did do a search for firewall programs. There are many. I was looking at Firestarter and Guarddog. Each seem to want Gnome or KDE. Are these required simply to configure but still works while logged into the other (KDE or Gnome)? You can use either under KDE or Gnome. Firestarter is prettier and has a nice wizard. They are both in the 'Contrib' section of Mandrake mirrors. Go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and follow the instructions to add a Contrib urpmi software source (add 'update, 'plf' and 'Texstar' sources too while you are there) Your Mandrake Control Centre Software Manager will then have access to hundreds of online packages including Firestarter and GuardDog. Is one better than the other? or is it six of one and half a dozen of the other? Any other possible candidates? They all are just front ends for the same firewall function built into the Linux kernel. They all work, and are all better than any Windows firewall. I am on a cable modem with a router that connects 2 computers to the modem (if that matters) Thanks for any help Russ derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com