Re: [newbie] Open Source Code (follow-up)
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 17:15, Anthony V Guillen wrote: Thanks to all who sent their response to my question. I have another question, I think this is a ridiculous question, but I have nothing to do but to ask this question just to know, I know that if we compile a program like an assembly program, it will make another file excluding the source code, its either an .exe file or a .com file, depending on the structure of the program, or in c programming, when we compile a program, I know that it will make an exe file. If it so, why is it that most of the files in Linux has no extension name, particularly no executable file like in windows e.g. (scandisk.exe)? OK Simple, really, file extensions are there for typing files, and there are other ways to do that in linux/UNIX. In particular, an _executable_ bit is available in file permissions... well actually three such bits, one for owner, one for members of owner's group, and one for the rest of the universe. Open a terminal window. cd /usr/bin ls l* and you will see a list of files. Those shown in green with an asterisk following their name are executable. Executable files are NOT NECESSARILY files which have been compiled to dynamically linked (like exe) or statically linked (like com) files... .bat files are included as well, and something like this will be on the first line #!/bin/sh for shell programs #!/usr/bin/perl for perl programs #!/usr/bin/env python for python programs--all of those call script interpreters and then run the script in the file. Xtart is an example of a python program, located at /usr/bin/Xtart which executes fast enough that it is unlikely ever to be recoded into C. For a real treat, look at man bash The shell which executes batch files can do stunningly powerful things... Look also at /etc/rc.sysinit for examples of the sort of analysis programmable. printerdrake is an example of an extremely powerful perl program Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Not why only graphical - Why no graphical?
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 22:43, john rigby wrote: Ha there folks, Well, a new machine and same result. I purchased the full bottle M8.0 and need to get SOME value back :-) Many people complained of it not being very successful and it failed for me several times on 3 machines. It would seem to install ok to a degree - but only in text mode, despite my trying to ensure it would be graphic. I have now even bought a Jetway moboard as I was told it was lux friendly. SIS 630T chipset It has O/b video AGP4x shared mem amount immaterial as I've seen so far. O/b sound AC'97 P3 667 Chip No graphics install by M8.0 No sound BTW: I've never been able to get sound working on any prior system. Advice requested please: 1. In the manuals I can find no reference to going GUI from dreaded Terminal mode. Can one? I tried F1 and select other options at bootup but it will not accept any change from L3 to L5 2. As I paid for the presentation of 1000's of programs with the retail Powerpak, is there a chance that I could use say a 2 disk minimalist set of 8.1 ( or 2) to get a start and then install the programs I want from the 8.0 Set? Note: In Australia north of Brisbane we not only put our clocks back, but Telecom can't see why I REALLY need to be on the Internet. I average a D/l speed of 1.8 overall ( I quit when it often gets to 1.0 or less) and lose about one in two of any large (10Megs+) downloads. I've officially been told voice capability is good enough and they aren't obliged to demonstrate more than 9600 Bd capability unless I want to spend a few hundred per week on ADSL or... so using the disks, not to mention the $140 spent on them seems a good idea. 3. What is the vote nowadays - my figures show 50/50 for 8.1 and 8.2 re user install/working satisfaction. 4. If Mandrake can't for some reason detect a graphics card, should it not say so? Or will it simply default to a Terminal/text install? Thanks and Cheers, John I have a Jetway 630TCF with the SiS 630 chipset. Install comes up Graphic without any effort on my part since the video supports Framebuffer. With the 530 and 8.0 there are some problems on some implementations usually solved by setting options in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Option sw_cursor Option no_bitblt Option FastVRam It makes no sense for the install to come up text without any graphics. But if the install does, then your CDs are seriously damaged (at least one run of the pressed CDs had trouble with a RAMDisk). It might try to come up text if you have less than 64M RAM since the 630 shares 8M of main memory with video memory which makes a 32M setup really offer only 24M to the system. In that case you would be fortunate to install at all. IN any event, 630 from Jetway with the supercheap VIA C3 - 733 processor and 64M RAM installs just fine here. And because there is shared video memory, RAM is VERY relevant. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NetBEUI on Linux?
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 15:15, Randy Kramer wrote: Bill Davidson wrote: I seriously doubt it. NetBEUI is an old protocol that Microsoft hardly supports anymore. If at all. On Wednesday 03 April 2002 05:53 pm, Wally wrote: Is there a way to get my Mandrake 8.1 laptop to see my Windows desktop using NetBEUI? Can't use TCP/IP at the moment because the desktop's ip is assigned via the cable modem. Two points: To Bill: IMHO, the bigger question is whether Linux can support NetBEUI -- I know NetBEUI works in Win95, and I'm fairly certain it works in Win98, and is probably still supported in more recent versions. To Wally: The fact that the desktop's IP is assigned via the cable modem should not necessarily prevent you from seeing the Windows desktop. I think there are ways to assign two IPs to the same network card, and there was a post about this not too long ago on either the newbie or expert list. IIRC, civileme described the setup as the poor man's router (although I may have that mixed up with another thread). Randy Kramer There is a thread on the expert list and another on the cooker list explaining how to assign more than one IP to a single card, but it really is better to activate connection sharing and use two cards for security reasons as well as fewer network collisions. NetBEUI (NetBIOS Extended User Interface) is not a Microsoft exclusive; it was in fact developed by IBM in the 1980s. No support nor is ther likely to be. Instead of approaching the security problem by creating an entirely different network, TCP/IP was used locally. This is secure, because the IP addresses reserved for local networks will not be relayed by an internet router. It is also capable of higher security levels using ssh connections. So 1. There is no need for NetBEUI in linux. It is possible of course to resolve IPs to NEtBEUI names with nmblookup -U xxx.yyy.zzz.aaa -A #(Yes install Samba) And LinPopup is available for WinPopup type apps. There was an announcement by Network Storage Manufacturer Procom in May of 2000 that they would have NetBEUI for linux and that it would be available for download. A search of http://www.procom.com does not find any current news of the product. 2. There is no impetus to write a WHOLE NEW SET of tools to do communication across a different network. Remember the mailbox is used for the next desk over and Outlook is used for the internet in Microsoft. Two mailing systems to learn for the power of one, is what a so-called secure local network costs in M$. At least that is how some Microsoft users explained it to me. The last time I really worked with M$ software was about the time NetBEUI matured and was not updated--like about 1997. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Open Source Code (follow up 2)
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 18:19, Anthony V Guillen wrote: Is there any difference in the syntax and the compiler use in c programming assembly programming in windows and in linux? or the compiler itself? Yes, there are large differences. gcc is closer to ANSI compliant, but has all sorts of add-ons. f2c translates fortran programs, and p2c does it for pascal. Objective-C is embedded, and the switches for compilation would fill a small volume with their documentation. To make it look something like the Visual C or some of the other Windows-compatible compilers, you need to use an integrated development environment, like kdestudio, or KDevelop (Much better, BTW in KDE3 which is NOW available for 8.2). gIDE and wedit are also available and free, and Kylix is reasonably priced from Borland. The library functions are much more comprehensive and richer in linux, mainly because the system is capable of so much more, and the key to good C programming is as always having a good handle on the library functions and system calls. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 03:33, Steven Spears wrote: Hello: What is the best method of installing KDE 3.0. I've got in downloaded and want to install it on my 8.2 system, but want to do it in the best possible way. Any tips or hints? Thanks, Steve Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Put all the RPMs in a single directory Open up a terminal window and su to root and cd to your directory with the KDE rpms Now do these urpmi unixodbc (and from the reply install every match with urpmi urpmi postgresql (same activity again, and include all the -devels) urpmi MYSQL (go at it again, installing everything) NOW rpm -ivh *rpm Take notes, you will get some instructions. The procedure will hang on a warning message, refusing to tell you it is completed. Hit the Enter key once for the system prompt. That's it... It will show up as KDE3 on the kdm login screen and it will show up as 11 KDE on the choices Xtart presents from a console. Unles you save the session, it will ask for styles EVERY time you login which can be a pain. The soundserver is, to say the least, flaky. Programs like xmms will continue to work but don't bother reporting known bugs about KDE sound. Some of the login messages and panels may crash with a crash message if your security is High or Higher. KDE3 is making too many assumptions about permissions and open sockets. About par for the course for a .0 type release from KDE. Some things will improve with 3.1, but the new KDE is for the most part, smooth and nice. Liquid is not ready or KDE3 is not ready for liquid at this time. Some beautiful theming from Mosfet will just have to wait a little longer. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 13:07, FemmeFatale wrote: Damian wrote: actually there is a better way. last night i installed KDE 3.0 by getting all RPMS, opening a terminal and doing a urpmi ./+ it asked me for the three MDK cd's and got a lot of packages to solve dependencies... it worked fine, tho kde 3 has bugs.. :o( Damian what does opening a term typing urpmi ./+ do then exactly? So you still have to d/l all the RPM's of KDE3 yourself urpmi just takes care of the deps? And if so will it still install KDE3 beside your existing KDE2.x? :) Tough questions I know, but I'm sure you'll pull through this crisis for me Damian ;p I have confidence in your non-Fudding abilities Femme It installs and runs separately. It is KDE3 on the kdm selection and 11 KDE on Xtart from console. You need about 90 Mb space in / or /opt and if you do not have a separate /opt and / doesn't have that much room, then do this: 1. Open a terminal 2. su to root 3. mkdir -p /usr/opt ln -s /usr/opt /opt exit before you install. It seems to run well as security level 2 and to have problems at 3 or higher. Some of the new open sockets do not appear to get the right permissions for intewrprocess communications at higher security levels. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mysterious confirmation demands by SYMPA??
On Thursday 14 March 2002 11:12 pm, J Rigby wrote: Ha there folks, Despite having sent hundreds - well, several - messages to the list, my last few produced this strange email in return: Can anyone tell me what it is? Haven't gone direct to M - this will no doubt be quicker... :-) Cheers Him Again To distribute the attached message in list newbie : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=CONFIRM%201b5b08ad98a5be45c8d6510d4 d 70ab9d Or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following subject : CONFIRM 1b5b08ad98a5be45c8d6510d4d70ab9d It means sympa didn't recognize your email address as being subscribed to the list. Did you send it from the subscribed address? If so, you may need to re-subscribe. This is different from the bounces we are now producing if your host doesn't resolve under lookup/reverse-lookup. We don't care to have our lists spammed so we allow anyone to post even if not subscribed but only with confirmation, and we reject all messages from possibly spoofed sites (Windows XP has spoofing capability so it is likely to become a BIG problem). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] xfice
On Thursday 14 March 2002 09:22 pm, Colin Jenkins wrote: Hello civileme, Friday, March 15, 2002, 8:56:19 AM, you wrote: c Colin Jenkins wrote: It looks like I have really stuffed something up here. (lm8.1) I followed some instructions I came across for booting up with Xfice (I was using kde). everything appeared to work ok, but when I next rebooted, I was no longer able to start kde or gnome. if I use startx kde -- :1 it still starts xfice. Where do I start looking to fix this? c If you have 8.1 load Xtart and you have access from console to all wms c Civileme There is a new version which will run on 8.0 up at http://www.civileme.net/Xtart-1.1-6mdk.i586.rpm That is a direct download. Civileme Thanks for the answer civileme, I will note that down for next time :) I finally reinstalled to fix it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 Release date
On Thursday 14 March 2002 10:29 pm, Aryan Ameri wrote: Does Anyone know when will Mandrake Linux 8.2 Gold be officially released? I am very eager to purchase it. For most of you, pre-orders at www.mandrakestore.com are possible. Also, if you decide to join Mandrake Club, you will likely find more of that information. Civileme And, of course, Mandrakestore has burning/printing capabilities so they don't have to wait a month for commercial CD pressing. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DelTree
Paul Kraus wrote: How do I delete a directory that contains files and more directories. I want to erase everything in the folder. Command Line please. I hated the command line but its like crack, very addictive. Its actually easier and much more efficient then the gui. If your not using it I recommend learning as much as possible. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com rm -r /whateverdirectoryname/and/path -f the -r is for recursive (i. e. descend into subdirectories) and the -f is for force without asking While rm -rf /whateverdirectoryname/and/path will work to the same effect, it is considered bad form. Imagine that you type this far rm -rf / and then the household cat launches for your desktop and plops a fat paw on the enter key. Your entire filesystem(s) are bye-bye, even /mnt/windows_c if you happen to have one and it is writeable. Aside from having the household cat for supper, there is no compensation, and of course even less when you fat-finger the enter key yourself. Take it from someone who has committed that faux pas. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FrontPage like applicatiopn for Linux ?
Mark Finlay wrote: check out http://html.about.com/cs/linuxunixeditors/ Mark Finlay On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 18:41, Hanan Z. Shargi wrote: Does anybody know of any visual web building application for linux such as Front Page ?? Regards, -- Hanan Z. Shargi Registered Linux User# 259916 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Quanta+ is more like Hippie, and though screem is close, it segfaults on many platforms. Bluefish seems to work tolerably well. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Space left
Paul Kraus wrote: How do I see how much space is left on a drive? ls -lt doesn't show space left. I prefer command line. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com df and du Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Licensing, Windows and Mandrake
Kevin Old wrote: Hello all, I have an issue with some software licensing and thought I'd be able to find help here. I have setup a network for my church - Win2k Adv. Server - Clients are Win 98SE To keep from having to purchase a Win Server license to handle more clients I was wondering if we were to setup a Mandrake box to be the domain controller (instead of the Win2k server) and use the Win2k server for another client if we would still be legal accessing information on the Win2k box through the Mandrake server from other clients? Still with me? Sorry that was kind of confusing. Basically I want to have client machines access the Win2k box only if they need to, but instead of the clients accessing them the clients would contact the Mandrake box and it would be passed to the Win2k server. Can I get around licensing stuff like this...or am I asking for a law suit? Thanks, Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Technically, it is a single connection to the win2k server if you are using a linux box as a gateway. If you read the server license carefully you may find it says _simultaneous_ connections and if it does, you have one _simultaneous_ connection. However, the text and interpretation of that license could be changed at any time (yes, while you are using it--you agreed to that when you agreed to the EULA), and I would expect that hole to be closed soon. Micrtosoft is on an all-out campaign to crush linux wherever they find it. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: common acronyms (was Re: [newbie] su)
Chris Keelan wrote: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:03:33 -0500: In attempt to throw the authorities off his trail, Anuerin G. Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] transmitted: IIRC - If I Remember/Recall Correctly YMMV - Your Mileage Migh Vary RTFM - Read the F**k*ng Manual STFW - Surf the F**k*ng Web DAYOR - Do At Your Own Risk HTH - Hope That Helps FWIW - For What It's Worth IANAL - I am not a lawyer (always followed by but...) - C Ummm IANAL, and I am very happy not to be! RTFM--read the fine material available NFTFAH--not for the faint at heart LLaP -- Linux lovers are Perfect FUD -- Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt BSOD -- Blue Screen of Death, a sometimes occurrence in one of the OSes from the Dark Side OS -- Operating System Dark Side -- Non-free software, software patents, DMCA and other fictions to make lawyers and businessmen rich from the work of software developers. DMCA -- Digital Millenium Copyright Act--a 1998 U.S. Law that greatly extends copyright protection (into some areas traditionally occupied by fair use) and makes web site hosts potentially responsible as co-infringers for sites that violate copyright. There is a belief that it violates free speech and due process and there are already suits against it. UCITA -- A hundred-plus page proposed law before many state legislatures and passed by a few which 1) Allows a company to charge high interest and apply recurring charges to your credit card used over the internet without full disclosure, and to bill any reissued cards. 2) Makes some strictures on how software companies may behave in the matter of warranties and gives their license agreements the full force and effect of law, thereby permitting them to prohibit reverse engineering to make a data import program from any competing proprietary or free software (basically allowing the vendor to lock all data you make with his programs to his programs alone in perpetuity.) Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking - I can get into my box but not back out
Elizabeth Jones wrote: Hi - I just installed mandrake 7.1 on a new box. I am trying to duplicate a box that died last week and reusing the same server name and IP address. But I clearly have something set wrong. I can see this new box from the network and I can telnet and ftp in to it, but I can't get out to the network when I'm on it. I have a PC plugged in to the same subnet, and I used the same subnet mask on the linux box that is used for the PC. but on the PC I have a default gateway, I put this in as the default gateway on the linux box as well. I guess I'm missing the broadcast address? any ideas on how I would determine what that should be? thanks - Ebeth Jones Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ummm, maybe you could tell us a bit more about your network/internet connection? /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/resolv.conf contents would also be helpful You can put them to a file by putting in a floppy disk (dos formatted) cat /etc/resolv.conf somefilename cat /etc/sysconfig/network samefilename cp somefilename /mnt/floppy then you can send us the info by copying it to your windows machine and pasting it into your email. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] backup app for LM 8.0
mike wrote: What backup apps are there for LM 8.0 that actually work? Looked into Partimage but couldn't get / or /home to unmount to use . Help ? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com If you have a CD-R or CDRW, try scdbackup (Use that as a search key on Google). Civileme And don't expect to be able to unmount / ever--the system would stop working, just as if you had issued killall5 from a console. You can unmount /home if it is a separate partition and you are logged in as root. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RaiserFS or Linux partition
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I attempt tonight to try another install should I use RaiserFS (Seen somewhere in the instalation guide) or a linux native partition? Will RaiserFS create any sticky situations for a newbie? thanks for your help ;x Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Basically, don't use Reiser unless you need it .. Definitely not with postfix based mailservers, and not with NFS. If you have ML8.1 or later, XFS is a good choice for newbies, providing full functionality and a lot of speed and some safety. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] install does not recognize keyboard/mouse
Ravi Malghan wrote: Hello: I am trying to install Mandrake 8.0 on a laptop (Micron Transport XT). After the first screen comes up (graphical screen asking me to choose the language), I cannot go forward since the installation script does not recognize any keys from the keyborad nor the mouse? I tried disabling Plug and Play feature from BIOS, but still no luck. Please help. TIA Ravi Ummm, html mail is to be eschewed when writing to the list, please. OK then try F1 at splash screen linux noauto nobiospnp and hit enter. If that doesn't pull the trick, try booting from CD2 and using the same F1 and parameters after selecting an alternate boot kernel. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[Fwd: Re: [newbie] Reboot..how often]
Original Message Subject: Re: [newbie] Reboot..how often Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:42:48 -0500 From: David Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: DGSSoftware To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 000d01c1a94f$d7cad7b0$fd00a8c0@pavilion [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of my servers uptime is 8 months, why reboot? Thats very Windoze! Dave. On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:52:34 -0800 Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I have one RedHat 6 server only machine that runs mostly as a pop and web server that only gets rebooted when we clean it every 6 months or so Of course I monitor the memory and disk usage on a regular basis. But the wonderful thing about the os is that it has none of those inherent memory leaks that seems to continue to plague Microsoft products.. Ed At 09:34 PM Tuesday, 1/29/2002, Jesse Angell wrote -= I run a linux server, that hosts multiple chat servers. I used to do this on Windows 2000 and required a reboot at least once a week. I am curious now that I've switched to Mandrake Linux 8.1 how often should I reboot to clear things out to avoid unwanted down times, here is my uptime information 10:30pm up 12 days, 2:01, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 If I know how often It needs to rebooted I could setup a script to do it and tell my customers that its down every blah blah time for a blah blah amount of time... ?? Any ideas? Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . When you reach the crossroads, take it. - Yogi Berra LOL! A script to reboot? You might want to restart the chat server say once every two weeks, but reboot the system? I wrapped the time since reboot counter around on one machine--like 437 days up. One process was killed when the counter wrapped and had to be restarted from console, but I think several have passed this time with no problem. Underneath all the glitz and glamor, the base system is _stable_. You may freeze a desktop with bugs in a WM, but you can almost always dive out to a console and fix things, or SSH in if your keyboard is whacked. Reboot is considered a vulgar word in these environs. If you are swtiching video cards, it _Will_ be necessary to reboot, and probably use your install CD in update mode, and it you are changing processors or Mobos, a power-down/reboot is unavoidable, but you can actually change BIOS EPROMs without rebooting though the benefits will not be realized until you do the R-thing. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Time changes
Carl Kehley wrote: Help!!! I have suddenly started to get cyclic time changes, about every 2 seconds, sometimes accompanied by video blanking, and usually a hard lockup. This is occurring in 8.1, and also RH 7.2 and Libranet (multiple boot machine, along with Win98SE), but Windows is not affected. What should I be looking for? It seems obviously to be a hardware problem, but what? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Carl Kehley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Try watch hwclock --show in a console or even watch 'hwclock --show timefile' And then interrupt after about a minute and check timefile or send it here. Give LILO an esc and a (linuxbootname) 3 to come up in console mode. If it is your hardware clock, KDE will go crazy. I have seen it happen when I changed time zones and KDE blanked andf flickered and finally stabilized, but any change in hardware clock seems to trigger problems. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] .xsession-errors
FLYNN, Steve wrote: Is it just me or everyone get ever growing .xsession-errors files for each userid who uses X? Mine seem t be full of: kicker: WARNING: KDE detected X error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major Opcode 14 Anyone got any clues as to why I get these errors and more importantly, how I can get rid of 'em? Steve Flynn NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst Tel: 01603 680086 Well it is a warning-level diagnostic that the kde folks didn't have time to fix and it does not affect operations of KDE. As to how to get rid of it, make a cron job to mail you the contents of xsession errors once a month and then echo \n .xsession-errors.. should do the trick Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] EVOLVE
Paul Kraus wrote: Are there any tool to import an outlook pst to evolve? Paul Kraus Network Administrator PEL Supply Company (216) 267-5775 Voice (216) 267-6176 Fax www.pelsupply.com http://www.pelsupply.com We are working on one called transfugdrake that will make windows migration easier, but there are still bugs... Look in a cooker mirror and you will likely find it. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ESS Solo 1 Audiodrive
Terry Smith wrote: Short version: Got one, doesn't work :-( Longer version: My new linux box has returned from its original birthplace in San Francisco (Micronux Computers) with a new mobo. The week old machine had quit on me a couple of times finally, on Jan 6, dropping out altogether. Apparently it was a problem with the mobo, specifically the voltage supplied to the cpu and the memory. The original mobo was an Asus A7M266 which is a socket A board, DDR, 266 FSB, etc using the AMD761 chipset. The board had built in sound and it (the sound, not the board) worked fine. Micronux replaced the mobo with an Asus A7K266 which has the same config as the old board and a VIA 266 chipset instead of the AMD. It doesn't, however, have onboard sound, so Micronux put in an ESS Solo 1 Audiodrive card. sndconfig says ESS Technology|ESS 1969 Solo 1 Audiodrive is not supported Mandrake Control Center, hardware configuration, detects the card and indicates that it uses kernel module: snd-card-es1938. I selected the Solo 1 from the ESS list and tested it. Nada! lspcidrake tells me basically the same thing, i.e., recognizes the card and indicates the kernel module. Of course, I'm sure that there has been tons of messages about this over the last month or two. I've managed to lose stuff from the last several weeks on the transition including where the archives are :~ (. So should this card work? Is it a IRQ problem? TIA. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com chkconfig --del alsa modprobe esssolo1 Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installer Distorted
Tighe!!! wrote: Alright, I'm really tired of trying to get Linux Mandrake installed. I am on an old-world Mac (7200/90) and I've attempted to install Linux... around 20 times, seriously. First I kept trying LinuxPCC, which didn't go too well. So a friend told me of Mandrake Linux, and in my humble opinion, that's the sweetest distribution around! So I finally got the two ISO's burned. I partitioned my hard drive (one Mac drive, the rest Extra) and installed OS 9.1. Next I go to to install Mandrake using BootX... It won't work!!! The display on the installer is really messed up. I mean, from BootX up to the point of selecting the Mean of Installation, it's fine! As soon as the Mandrake installer comes up though, my screen (17) is insanely distorted with HUGE grey pixels. What's up?! The screen overlaps itself and if I move my mouse to the right, when it hits the edge at right, it'll reappear in the left and keep going right, etc!! Someone please help!! I tried entering video=platinumfb:vmode:17,cmode:8 in the Kernal Args for BootX, but that doesn't seem to help. I have No Video Driver UNCHECKED, and Force Video Settings CHECKED. If someone could just help me get this installed, I'd love you forever!!! Tighe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com The Mandrake PPC edition is built only for G3/G4 processors and the amount of progress you report is miraculous. Sorry, the device support isn't there before the early iMACs or something similar. Civileme QA Team Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trying to install Linux-Mandrake
Jeff wrote: Hey Everyone I need some help I am trying to install Mandrake 8.1 on my laptop. When I get to the screen where it says it is configuring PCMCIA or whatever...hehe...it seems to lock up!!! Does anyone know why it would be doing this? I have a new Toshiba Satellite. Any help would be great later Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try F1 at the splash screen, then linux noauto on the start line and hit enter Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trainging / Documentation
Paul Kraus wrote: Is there any good documents, books, or pdf?s (preferably free and downloadable) that will help me learn linux quickly? I don?t need all the unix background or this is how tho mouse works crap. I am a systems admin for NT and 2000 I just want to learn linux. The documentation that came with software is very nice but I want to print it and I don?t want to have to print it page by page. Thanks Paul Kraus Network Administrator PEL Supply Company (216) 267-5775 Voice (216) 267-6176 Fax www.pelsupply.com http://www.pelsupply.com One of your 8.1 installables was sag... System Administrator's Guide I think there are also a couple of other ebooks available in ps and html. If all you can find is html, then do a googlew search for the neat little program called SDF which can convert documents with wild abandon. Civileme QA Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] When is Mandrake not Mandrake?
Mark Lucas wrote: I have been downloading, compiling and installing sources - new kernel, modules etc. When does my Mandrake 8.0 distro cease to be Mandrake and become a 'generic' Linux (if thewre is such a thing)? Just a questions out of idle curiosity. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, in one sense, if you are downloading, it is very close. Just throw away Netscape and pine you are there--everything else is GPL or other GPL-compatible free licenses. Yes, even the Mandrake-specific tools. And the integrated menus are an adaptation of Debian. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Posting FROM a Perl script
Miark wrote: Found my answer. Miark Hi all, I can't seem to find anyplace that describes how to POST data _from_ a Perl script to the WWW. Every hit I get with search engines is a page that describes the other way around. Anybody know of a tutorial or site that covers what I need? Merci, Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, don't keep us all in suspense. Share the link! Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] backup script
Jesse Angell wrote:
I found a script and just eddited it and saved it.. but I can't launch
it like I could the script before, The script simply backs up a file.. I
get a Bad Interrepture error trying to launch it AND i notice that the
orignal script was green on ls and this is just grey on ls.. here is the
script why isnt it working
#!/bin/sh
instance=${1:-palace}
root=${2:-/home/redbaron/palaceserver}
cp $root/$instance/psdata/pserver.pat
$root/$instance/psdata/backup/pserver`date +%Y%m%d`.pat
You need to make it executable
as root
chmod a+x (scriptname)
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Re: [newbie] Star Office
Paul Kraus wrote: Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it located? I can't find it. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com If you have the download edition, it is not. It is on Commercial CD with Standard Edition, and PowerPack and ProSuite and _even_ Gaming edition. (Last I looked, CompUSA had Gaming for 29.95 and it includes the ability to run several windows games and has the Sims) Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tiny Emacs
Mario Michael da Costa wrote: Charles Muller wrote: I am trying to learn how to use the Emacs package that came with ML 8.1, but the program runs as a tiny window in one corner of my screen, with microscopic menu fonts. Is there a way to make this window larger, with larger menu fonts? Regards, Charles Muller asbestos suit on Hello Charles, If you don't already know emacs, may i suggest you try vim, or gvim ? :o) it's much easier, and once you get used to it, you will find that it makes life very very easy. If you need any help with learning vim, i would be glad to help out. just mail me, and i'll reply first thing on monday morning when i get back to work, or i'm sure that there will be a lot of vimmers on this mailing list only too eager to help out. Thank You, Regards, mario asbestos suit off Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com emacs has a file where a few items are stored called /etc/X11/app-defaults/Emacs The format of settings entered there is given by opening a terminal and typing man emacs For your purposes, you want to check that the font line in the file is something like emacs*font: -*-Fixed-Medium-R-*-*-*-130-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 only on one line in the file... Then you can grab the lower right corner of the window and use it to resize the window, or you can specify the geometry... Once, on a lark, I decided to make emacs my desktop environemnt/window manageR, so I set the app-defaults to -geometry 145x86 to fill the screen... If you want the power of emacs without quite the overhead, there is jed available for install. joe is also a nice editor which can be made a micro-emacs. BUT as the guy in the asbestos suit intimated--there is something of a religious war on between vi and emacs. vi has its roots in old old UNIX, where it was rightfully welcomed as the best thing _including_ sliced bread by the folks who had been chafing under the inquisitorial torture of a program called ed. Emacs came somewhat later, largely the brainchild of Richard Stallman, and the folks who decided they liked it. My email signature at one time was: Daddy, why do we have to hide from the police. Because we use emacs, son. They use vi. My own learning came on micros(816-bit) and my intro to vi was on SCO Xenix, which impressed me at the time. (and I thought 1 Meg of memory was a _LOT_, too). MINCE (Mince Is Not Complete Emacs) was available on CP/M and DOS computers, and I did a lot of writing, in an area where we were lucky to have power. With powerdowns frequent, it was a pain to switch modes in vi to save everything every few minutes... Lessee escape to get out of insert mode then :wenter then i to get back to insert mode... With MINCE it was ctrl-x s or more likely nothing at all since it autosaved to a scratch buffer frequently. And then there was SCRIBBLE to accompany MINCE, but nothing to accompany vi on the machines I had available (SCRIBBLE was a TeX-like thing for formatting output), so I learned emacs and didn't continue using vi beyond its basic editor functions and then not those if something more convenient was available. Now I use emacs as my IDE. The color-coded support in my languages of choice and the autosaving are very important to me. I use vi when I am doing rescue work (if it is available and joe or jed are not), and I use LyX for documents, or occasionally Applixware or StarOffice if I have to be Microsoft-readable. Yes, you will find every editor has a following. PHPers sometimes like vim, but often select Xemacs. Many web page folks think Nedit birth was the point where the world began to run right. Pick the one you want and learn it. Then join the fanatics who think their editor is the greatest. I don't happen to have a fully formed opinion, and I tend to use the simple commands on lots of editors, and rarely have use for anything more. I do tend to customize emacs to suit myself more than any other, and I think I also like it because the screen is easy on my eyes, but I can't claim to know even half its functions. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOffice
Paul Kraus wrote: I can not install the software. I am running a gateway solo 5300 laptop. 733 mhz p3 with 196megs of ram. I click on setup it starts but right before the first dialog appears it locks. Screen has background install image and the options box is completly blank except the next button. You cant click on anything and if I move the mouse around it starts slowing the whole system down. It puts vertical lines across the screen. Then it completly freezes. The only thing I can do is shift alt f1. log in kill the .setup and the .setup.bin processes. then I have to wait like a minute or two. Then I can switch back to kde and everything works fine. I need the app. I have to able to reliably work with MS office files. Once I can do this and prove it to the powers that be I will be able to switch the entire office over to linux. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, bite the bullet and buy a boxed set or download StarOffice 6.0 (6.0 and a revised 5.2 will work with that S3 Savage video chipset) Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to speed up Linux Mandrake 8?
Assassin wrote: I think it is very slow on my machine (K6-II 450, 128 RAM, TNT2, 20GB Quantum, with kernel 2.4.3). How can I optimise it so it can load and run applications faster? Thanks in advance. -- Zaradite odmah na Internetu +++ mnostvo besplatnih stvari! URL: http://zarada.wzr.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Install a newer kernel. The problem is the vm in early kernel 2.4 (up to about kernel 2.4.10). Alternatively, install kernel 2.2 right on your installation disks which will work much better, and will fully support supermount. The only caution here is if you used Reiserfs, the one for kernel 2.2 is a different version than the one for 2.4 and using kernel 2.2 with the newer version will _NOT_ work and will destroy data. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake update broken?....
chris huston wrote: Hi, Is there any fool proof way to get the security updates I can handle the manual way... but i m trying to help a newbie set up their computer with mandrake 8.1.. and i've yet to get mandrake update to pull a secure source update from any mirror I 've left it running for an hour or so, trying to get it to sink up with a few local mirrors... no dice when i ftp into them and grab them manually, i can snag them in seconds.. what gives??? thank you, chris That's the problem with using volunteer mirrors. Rpmdrake is sensitive to the way permissions are set up on the mirror. Many mirrors work; some don't. Keep trying and report mirror failures to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trouble with (an) OAF!
Terry Smith wrote: Hi all, Today's problem (actually I've been fooling with this off and on for a coupla weeks!) is installing Evolution 1.0.1. I'm going the route of downloading source files from the Ximian site. The first package that needs to be installed is bonobo-config-0.14. When I do a ./configure it goes through a script which runs a series of checks...All is well until it gets to . much snipping checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no creating libtool checking for gawk... gawk checking for glib-config... /usr/bin/glib-config checking for GLIB - version = 1.2.0... yes checking for oaf-config... /etc/oaf/oaf-config.xml checking for OAF - version = 0.6.2... no *** Could not run OAF test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means OAF was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved OAF since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may want to edit the oaf-config script: /etc/oaf/oaf-config.xml I have a file /etc/oaf/oaf-config.xml which I would be willing to post but a few basic questions. What is bonobo and what is it doing? What is OAF (I can't find it listed in any of my books) and what does it do? Do I need a newer version? What is going on here? (I'm a little mystified as I've got Evolution 0.13 running OK and it must use bonobo???). Anywhow, if someone could steer me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Terry Smith Hatchville, MA USA Up to this point, the Ximian for any version of Mandrake has been released just about the time the _next_ version of Mandrake is going for pressing. This means your packages are out of sync. Ximian has newer packages on its site (and requires them) than is in the current version of Mandrake. If you want working evolution, you need to look at cooker packages, but then cooker has newer versions of many things and people have reported segfaults and worse trying to run _some_ updates from cooker on top of a stock system If you have the disk space, you can dual-boot Mandrake 8.1 and Cooker using the _same_ /home directory(if it is set up as a separate partition). THere are many methods to do this, but one is described at http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=473lang=en Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is tthere an archive
Derek fowler wrote: of this mailig list?? Just about got all my problems sorted, just licq to fix some GL problems to fix.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 has links for the archives of the various lists. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] boot disk doesn't work NOW: you got troubles?
Brian Parish wrote: John, Try becoming root first. Brian On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 15:04, John Rigby wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:37, your wisdom was such..: ai4a [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shipahoy wrote: Hi My Mandrake 8.1 boot disk doesn't work. This includes the one made MY M8.0 doesn't even acknowledge the existence of mkbootdisk !!! Cheers, John It is possible in 8.1 to generate unworkable boot disks, depending on your run-time configuration. It can be that the initrd won't fit all the modules that will be needed. (FOR EXAMPLE: Install an 8.1 system with XFS for all partitions--Booting from the boot disk you can generate will not work, if you can even generate one.) The problem is space. You can roll up a kernel close to 1M and then try to add a bunch of modules to support your machine in an initrd that blows away the space available on a floppy. A boot disk is needed these days only if you do not intend to use a bootloader of any description. You do not need it for rescue purposes, because that function is on the CD (hit F1 at the splash screen and type rescue without the quotes). If your / partition is ext2 or ext3 then the rescue operation will even find the partition and put it on /mnt for you so that chroot /mnt runs from your / on hard disk mkbootdisk will not make a boot floppy from an LS120 drive (still) though it will make a boot LS120 cartridge. With a few more sectors per track and with a few extra tracks, it is possible to make a floppy of the 1.44M kind into 1.7, but this has been known to physically damage some floppy drives who tried to write it (almost all seem able to read it), so the problem remains with space. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: VB on Linux???
ngn wrote: Hi folks!!! I'm a programmer [not a senior programmer but not a newbie at all] and I have the question if Linux has the need of VB or any Visual Language which runs on Windows to be ported to Linux. If exists any Visual language that runs on linux, I'd like to know it!!! Thanks in advance Nicolás Gómez Montevideo, URUGUAY ICQ # 45144976 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, try downloading XBasic--it is similar to VB (in fact it may be that VB was developed from XB ideas) and it runs on both platforms. There is a mdk rpm for it. It has a dragNdrop builder for grids (their term for widgets) and an html manual drops into /usr/share/doc/xb* with the mdk rpm (not so with their rpm, which does not include the manual). Original materials for it are at www.xbasic.org. Xbasic is much more powerful than VB as you will learn quickly. In fact it is powerful enough that the source code for the compiler is written in xbasic, and it compiles itself in just a few seconds. It will _NOT_ run from console... It requires X. The windows version needs an emulator for X. Glade is also something of interest--not a total Integrated Development environment, but it will build c routines for handling widgets you define in a drag-N-drop environment. Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apostrophe's
Anuerin G.Diaz wrote: On 18 Jan 2002 03:20:12 -0500 Paul Rodr$ByH(Buez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How come in some emails, apostrophe's [heh] show up as little square boxes in Evolution? - Paul Rod$Bmg(Buez must be conflict in locale and charsets. i have my locale set to japanese and your the 'rig' in your lastname shows up as a kanji character (yours is not the only one, there are some names which exhibit this behaviour). ciao! Well, as you know, Microsoft also set some of the codes reserved for control characters to graphics characters in their editors, and it might be an effect from that as well. There is a little perl script called Demoroniser which can clean up websites from that mess and keep the web author from looking dumber than a bag of dirt when the site is viewed from a non-microsoft platform. There is also a potential in linux for different character encodings to produce this efect for some characters. As a matter of fact, I see some "?" characters in this mail I am replying to (Using mozilla with iso-8859-1). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: But I had to tell somebody !
poogle wrote: Today is a day for celebration in the Poogle household - I'm Windows free, got the USB Snapscan scanner working today which was the last link in the chain. Now for the Wine (which is not an emulator but a beverage !) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Props and congrats Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Software raid install
Daniel Olynsma (ENZ) wrote: I have just got a new 40 gig drive and would like to use it with my current 20 gig drive in a software raid0 configuration. Does the installer support setting up software raids during the install, or do I have to set up the raid after installing mandrake to space on the end of the 40 gig drive. Thanks for any help. Daniel Give it a whirl during install--just set up your raids using diskdrake Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cdrom supermount
Nick wrote: I think that this question was asked before, but I never saw much of an answer. After updating from 8.0 to 8.1 my system no longer mounts CDs automatically. It will not even read aduio CDs when I try to mount them with iso9660. In fstab it is using supermount for the drive and I am not sure what that does. I think that was changed during the update. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com 8.1 was shipped with supermount disabled by default Its performance was unacceptable. 8.0 had it enabled, but it did not work well on most systems. (Now we have it back, thanks to Juan Quintela of kernel team). Update doesn't pick it up. as root run supermount -i disable then make sure that the /etc/fstab entry is correct because 8.1 doesn't use /dev/cdrom Sometimes you have to make /dev/cdrom for some older programs--use ln -s to do that. Now your desktop icons are probably wrong as well if you are running a desktopthat uses them. Right click and select Delete then right-click some blank area of the screen and create CDROM and Floppy icopns using the drop-down lists to select devices. Then it is click to mount, right click to unmount or eject. If you want the tangled mess of any user able to unmount, change the user in the /etc/fstab line to users, then regardless of who mounted it, anyone can unmount it. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bastille error
Todd Slater wrote: When I try to run Interactive Bastille I get the following error: Using Tk user interface module. Only displaying questions relevant to the current configuration. Can't locate Bastille_Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/ /usr/lib/Bastille) at /usr/sbin/InteractiveBastille line 276. Would one of you kind souls know how to resolve this? Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Install Bastille_Tk Use the software manager and the flat list and look at Installables Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] can u read this?
Damian G wrote: Civileme, this is the output of those commands... [root@localhost root]# dmesg Linux version 2.4.8-26mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.96 2731 (Mandrake Linux 8.1 2.96-0.62mdk)) #1 Sun Sep 23 17:06:39 CEST 2001 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: - 000a (usable) BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0010 - 0fff (usable) BIOS-e820: 0fff - 0fff3000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 0fff3000 - 1000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: - 0001 (reserved) On node 0 totalpages: 65520 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 61424 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=1602 devfs=mount Initializing CPU#0 Detected 400.911 MHz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 799.53 BogoMIPS Memory: 254828k/262080k available (1086k kernel code, 6868k reserved, 397k data, 712k init, 0k highmem) Dentry-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Mount-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) Buffer-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff , vendor = 0 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 512K Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff CPU: After generic, caps: 0183f9ff CPU: Common caps: 0183f9ff CPU: Intel Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping 02 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb220, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:07.0 Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers. isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug Play device found PnP: PNP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00fbdc0 PnP: PNP BIOS version 1.0, entry at f:bde8, dseg at f PnP: 13 devices detected total Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Initializing RT netlink socket apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.14) Starting kswapd v1.8 VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.5.0 initialized devfs: v0.115 (20010827) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) devfs: boot_options: 0x1 Detected PS/2 Mouse Port. pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A block: queued sectors max/low 169069kB/56356kB, 512 slots per queue RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39 PIIX4: chipset revision 1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio hda: SAMSUNG SV0643A, ATA DISK drive hdb: ATAPI CDROM, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdc: WDC WD300BB-00AUA1, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: 12594960 sectors (6449 MB) w/482KiB Cache, CHS=784/255/63, UDMA(33) hdc: 58633344 sectors (30020 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=58168/16/63, UDMA(33) hdb: ATAPI 44X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, UDMA(33) Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 ide-floppy driver 0.97 Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0: [PTBL] [3649/255/63] p1 p5 p6 p7 p2 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 ide-floppy driver 0.97 md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 16384) Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Mounted devfs on /dev Freeing unused kernel memory: 712k freed Real Time Clock Driver v1.10d Adding Swap: 514040k swap-space (priority -1) MSDOS FS: IO charset iso8859-1 MSDOS FS: Using codepage 850 MSDOS FS: IO charset iso8859-1 MSDOS FS: Using codepage 850 reiserfs: checking transaction log (device
Re: [newbie] can u read this?
Damian G wrote: -OK try this - -chkconfig --del alsa -in a terminal as root - -You have an oss driver loaded and Alsa is default and probably -overriding your driver. -BTW your hard disk drive does not support linux according to the -manufacturer and also it does not have the right hardware to support -ATA66 or higher though it will usually work there for a while. The -problem is in the Error Correcting Code supported. They have special -windows drivers to try to preserve data integrity but of course none -for -linux. -Civileme .. which one did u mean? i've got the samsung and the Western Digital.. did u mean the one that has linux on it? btw, thank you for the quick answer, i'll try it. ;o) _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com The WD Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OK I got LICQ working...
FemmeFatale wrote: Took installing on Mandrake 8.1. I never did get it working on 8.0..the default install of Licq that is. As to what i did, i just installed the package, found my password was wrong; had to figure out where the dir. ~ was then edited the config file for Licq. Put in the correct password it works fine. Go figure. K so.. New question! (Right i see you're all scared now. Good!) I went into the Security tab in Control Centre. On install of Man. 8 or 8.1 the security setting always goes to Welcome to crackers! Yet i've changed it numerous times to Medium, as soon as i logout/in, it goes back to Welcome.. K so what the hell am i doing wrong...or rather wtf is Man. 8x doing !??? Well, the security level variable that is used to display security level is not being properly set when you enter the routine. If you want to check the security level, do this printenv | grep SECURE_LEVEL 0 is Welcome to Crackers 1 is Poor 2 is low 3 is medium 4 is high 5 is paranoid I also configured the little firewall utility in the Security panel. IS that Bastille's firewall!? Yes, with default settings If not, where do i find their utility? I did install it... bastille-netfilter status (as root) Final Question (ya i'm full of them), I had found a driver for my MS Trackball Explorer. My HDD crashed a while back lost the bookmark *B HISSS to windows :(*. I have yet to be able to re-find the driver. Learn to use bookmarks :-) Any idea where i can look? I wanted it b/c i have a 4 button trackball (5 if you include pressing the wheel) and Man.8x doesn't use all the buttons. It tends to dupe the functions on some of the other buttons. Help? Thx, Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Share Internet
Jesse Angell wrote: How do i setup my linux box to be a router so i can share my cable modem to other computers on the network. I do not have X installed... Jesse Angell _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well what version linux? IF it is Mandrake 8.1, just login as or su to root and run # drakgw Your other computers should then be configured for dhcp and set 192.168.0.1 as their default gateway. If it si 8.0 or even 7.2, then do the same. If it is a kernel with ipchains (kernel 2.2, usually) then do this in /etc/rc.local ipchains -P forward DENY ipchains -A forward -i eth0 -j MASQ echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Small OS for Old Hardware
Barb wrote: I know this is a mandrake list, but I have a couple of old dells like that and I install Debian with a few floppy images and the rest a network install. Barbara At 03:59 PM 1/11/2002, you wrote: Shane, thanks for the response, but I am really looking for something even smaller than that...the problem may be that it doesn't have a built in CD-ROM, but a 1st generation backpack, therefore, I would like to be able to do a complete install from a handful of floppies... thanks again! ned - Original Message - From: shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: Small OS for Old Hardware mandrake 7.2 (older but still a nice distro) would run fine on that chip and ram. but depending on what you like and the other laptop hardware the harddrive may be a bit tight:-) On Friday 11 January 2002 13:31, you spoke unto me thusly: I want to install Linux on an old laptop with currently has 98SP2 on it...it is a P1, 166, with 400 mg HD and 32 mgs RAM. I was pointed in the direction of both TinyLinux and SpyLinux, but I was wondering if anyone here had any better ideas...maybe a Mini_mandrake or something of the sort... Thanks in advance, ned -- Give me ambiguity or give me something else. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html http://www.nettwork.com/martin/mlmandrake/ It is German-only support at this time (German keyboard), but will run on a 386 with 4M OR http://linux-embedded.com/ Hosted by guess who? Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Error messages during shutting down
Mandrake Newbie wrote: Hello everybody! =) I'm currently using Mandrake 8.1 on Asus CUVR4X-C motherboard, Intel Pentium III 800 Mhz, 384 MB SDRAM and 20 GB Seagate Barraccuda 7200 RPM hard disk drive. My problem started when I successfully installed kernel-2.4.16.9mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm in my Mandrake 8.1 system. As most (if not all) of you know, Mandrake 8.1 has a default kernel version of 2.4.8. Basically, I did upgrade my default kernel. I installed my new kernel version using the command of: # rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.16.9mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm Also, my partitions and filesystems are: /boot - ext2fs /usr - XFS /home - XFS /opt - XFS /var - XFS swap / - ext2fs ...and I also add lines in my LILO for my new kernel to boot-up. Actually, I am encountering error messages during shutting down my system. Below are the error messages that are displayed during shutdown: /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line -76: 5401 segmentation fault $* What does the error messages mean? How will I get over it? So far, I haven't encountered any problems yet using my new kernel 2.4.16.9 installed except for the error messages during shutting down. Thanks in advance for your help. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I see nothing obvious in the halt script except the possibility that you somehow have Aurora called in a non-fb kernel. Everything else there would be straightforward. The other possibility would be unmounting a non-existent device (a device file under the old kernel that is not setup under the new, and obviously one you do not use, but even that does not explain a segfault. More likely, something is out of synchronization or your initrd.img points to the wrong set of modules (which should cause considerably more trouble than this). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] can u read this?
Damian G wrote: hey... i thought i was asking a simple question... ( perhaps too simple to be answered? ) did the list get my message? this is not the first time i get no response when i come here with a question.. :o/ a simple dunno will do... i was asking why i have to open harddrake every time i boot in order to get my sound working, and if devfs had anything to do with it... any ideas on how to solve this? bye. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, the behavior you describe does not reproduce on any of my test systems, so you will have to come up with a list of hardware, dmesg optput will do; a printout of cat /etc/modules.conf a listing of the output of lspcidrake, at a minimum. Some folks have reported effectiveness with linking (using ln -s) some devices to /dev/audio and /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer in /etc/rc.local, just prior to the last line, but until I see your configuration, I have no idea how to advise you. It may be also that your sound is double-loaded and the excess one, which works is blown away in the configuration by a conflict resolution at shutdown. chkconfig --del alsa could be helpful in such cases. But with so little information, who can say? So if you want information, be prepared to give some. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] deleted partition HELP!
Ric Parsons wrote: YES I DID examine the display, it did not say which partition was what, all I know is that it is the third partition, /boot / then /home, but it was not displayed that way because it did not even TRY to read the drive just the damnb partition table, I want something that will scan the entire drive, find the partition barriers, and then re-write the partition table, for your info, I DID study the literature and I DID NOT UNDERSTAND it, it DID NOT TELL ME what I NEEDED TO DO, sorry but I am handicapped and I need EXTRA Help with some things. All it did was display a blank drive and I know that is not what it is, it said the entire 20Gb thing was blank, but you can't blank an entire drive in less than one second, you would have to have a special utility that would go over the whole thing and set the data to all zeros, when a partition is erased, it just erases the card catalogue that tells where all the books in the library are. I'm sorry if you don't know the answer, its ok to not know something, don't be ashamed if you don't know everything, no one does, all you gotta say is I don't know and I will ask someone who does, no problem. If anyone else knows, or would like to try, please I would appreciate some input. If needed, I will email in again and try to re-state the problem in a way that can be understood, I'm sorry I have bad communication skills, I will take as long as I need here until I get the information I need, then I will drop the subject when my drive can once again be accessed, and thank all those who helped or at least tried. Thanks to alex for at least trying. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com OK boot the install CD and hit F1 when the splash screen comes up when it gets to the prompt # then type # fdisk -l /dev/hda this will give you a partition list Write it down or save it to a floppy--to save it to a floppy... # mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy # fdisl -l /dev/hda /mnt/floppy/partinfo and partinfo will be a text file on the floppy Don't go any further yet. Just send me the partition info and we'll go from there. There is an ext2 explorer program that can .look at a disk and dump the raw information from ext2 partitions, but right now I don't even know what filesystem you are using. There is also a windows program called explore2fs, and there is a program on the rescue CD that tries to guess which partition might be /, but there is no program that does what you describe... For one thing, it would have to have a lot of intelligence, would require a fully operational system to run (which means mount your drive as a slave on a computer running linux), and would have to be written to handle at least a dozen filesystems, including the image file used when someone installs linux for windows. That implies hugeness on a program for a very limited use, not something that is likely to interest a development engineer. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [ OT ] Recommended motherboard for Mandrake 8.1
Mandrake Newbie wrote: Hello everyone! Can you recommend to me a good motherboard that will support at least 3 GB of RAM and dual Intel Pentium 3 using Mandrake 8.1? Or anyone from this list has successfully installed Mandrake 8.1 using either of the following motherboards: - Intel Server Board SDS2 - Asus CUV266-DLS - Asus CUV4X-D Can you share your experiences to me? Thanks in advance. God bless you! Marvin __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com The ASUS CUV266 might require a boot linux nobiospnp but the others should work fine. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] file sharing
chuck wrote: Can anyone recommend a good file sharing app? TIA -Chuck Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com If you are sharing files among linux computers, then nfs is the way to go--not really an app, just define the files/directories on each machine you want ro share, and the machines to share them to. Then on each of the machines which will access the files, define a nfs mount and a directory. It is then transparent--it is mounted at boot usually and is simply like any other mounted partition. You can use linuxconf to set up both server and client sides of the nfs mount, the rest of the capability is built into the kernel, not a separate program at all. The other file sharing system is Samba, This one shares with windows boxes as well as linux boxes but is more of a chore to set up. Many people use webmin to set it up, others try the web browser game to use a setup program called SWAT, and some others say all that is unnecessary, put your favorite text editor on /etc/samba/smb.conf, read and configure as you choose, and save. LinNeighborhood, komba and gnomba are popular as clients of Samba to allow Linboxes to access either winboxes or other linboxes for shared files. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Linux distro
Amish K. Munshi wrote: Randy Kramer wrote: Amish K. Munshi wrote: Thanks a lot but I guess I live a very long way away. I am in Mumbai, India. I guess you might have heard about this city somwhere atleast. Not until now. Someday I'll enquire at the post office and see how much it would cost to send some disks there -- I'm curious. Thanks a lot for all this help. Also does most of the later version of Linux simiarly slow. I am only keen on changing from RedHat 7.1 since it is slow. It takes more than 40 sec. to start any application on it. In general, speed and memory usage have been two of my biggest problems with Linux compared to Windows (95, which is basically the version I am using (I've installed Win 98 for a few others, and used it for about a year on a laptop). I think (!) speed has generally decreased and memory use has increased from Mandrake 7.2 to 8.1 given the same hardware. Mandrake 8.1 is installed on a machine with 256 MB of RAM and is fairly fast until it starts using swap. I do some tricks in Mandrake 7.2 to speed things up. (Haven't used 8.1 enough to decide if I need to use the same tricks.) One trick is to keep several browser windows open, and not open link in new window (or whatever) -- instead, paste the link into an existing open browser window -- it avoids the overhead of opening a new window. I usually have two bowsers open so I just switch between them. Even the Netscape 4.75 with it takes more than a minute to start. But on Caldera 2.4 the speed is very fast. Netscape browser takes less than 10 sec. to start. Out of curiosity, are you comparing performance with the same versions of software? (Is it Netscape *4.75* on both Red Hat 7.2 and Caldera 2.4?) On Red Hat 7.1 I have uses 4.77 and mostly Caldera has 4.75. I do not have the Cd with me right now else I would have got you the exact version. I wasn't able to start RedHat 7.0 on my comp. I am planning to buy the 2 Cd pack from Mandrake but I want to know if it will work (Seems to be a big problem with Linux) I wish that while buying my Hardware I knew that Windows was so impossible to use. I would have made sure that I got a good components that are most compactible with Linux. You might post a list of your hardware here, perhaps others will comment on compatibility. (Officially, what you should do is check the various hardware compatibility lists.) About my hardware I have a AMD K6-2 500 Mhz. 160 MB of RAM (32+128) Dlink 56.6 Kbps internal modem (kernel = 2.4 only supported) SIS 530 motherboard with the sis 620 graphics card. Basic keyboard from a local company (Microtek). And a Logitech mouse. And the most leftout Printer Lexmark 1100 inkjet. (I did not find the support for it anywhere). Acer CDRom 50x. Most of the hardware should be Linux compactible exacpt the problem of Modem and the Printer. Most are still compactible except the most common problem of the modem, for some reason the Dlink support have created the drivers only for the 2.4 kernel. That probably leaves Mandrake 7.2 out of the box out of the running, although I'm sure you could update to a 2.4 kernel. (There might even be one included -- I run the 2.2.17-21mdk kernel with 7.2 -- never tried anything else.) I have never tried upgrading the Kernel it wasn't part of my ability. I have read the documentation but when I tried to install the new kernel on Red Hat 7.0 it had some dependencies problems. Also the speed problem is more in KDE 2.0 mainly the GNOME is fast enough. but it doesn't have a good email client. I liked the KDE email client a lot and found it to be the best of all after Outlook Express. You can run kmail under GNome (IIUC -- I've never tried it). I've heard from several people that Sylpheed (sp?) is a good email client. (I continue to use Windows for most email and web browsing, I run a local TWiki on Linux and intend it as my experimentation / learning box. I tried running the Kmail under GNOME but it would's show me any mails. I tried this software called cscmail but couldn't manage to install it. I also tried to use Ximian but it has some problems with the perl installation. Thanks a lot for your support. You're welcome! Good luck! Randy Kramer Thanks. The speed problem is kernel 2.4.x through 2.4.10 approximately. The virtual memory volume manager slowed things consideraably. Wait for 8.2 or load the earlier mandrakes line 8.0 or 8.1 with kernel 2.2 instead of 2.4 (Our install does give you a choice). RH has no better solution, and neither does SuSE because it is a _kernel_ issue. This will not reach the apparent speed of Windows loading Office, because on an installation of Windows, most of Office is already in memory when you call for it. We could do a similar trick, but folks might object to having half their
Re: [newbie] Mouse and keyboard stop responding
Lee wrote: On Saturday 05 January 2002 04:13 pm, Roberto Armenteros wrote: I recently bought a monitor-keyboard-mouse switch so that I can share a set of monitor-keyboard-mouse between my two boxes. When I switch from the linux box to my other box and then comeback to linux, my mouse doesn't work, while the keyboard works sometimes. Somehow when I disconnect the mouse from linux and plug it back in, which is what the switch does linux doesnt recognize the mouse anymore, and then I have to restart X so it will work again. They keyboard also presents some problems. I am sure there is another way of reconnecting the mouse, but I dont know how. Also, is there anyway of making this process autmatic? I use KDE mostly. I would really appreciate if somebody gives me a hand... :) Roberto __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ All kvm switches are not created equal. The problem is that your computer needs to think the mouse is there when it isn't. Easiest solution is probably a spare mouse or maybe trade in your kvm for another. I use a Belkin OmniView 4-Port switch with no problems on any of the boxes. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com There are a number of variables involved The keyboard itself The mouse The ports on the various computers and their design The switch I use a Belkin Omnicube and I lost the keyboard with nearly every switch. Then one day I knocked the keyboard off the desk and it did not want to work any longer with any computer, so I used an old, dirty keyboard from the now-defunct monorail computer. I have had no losses in switching since then. I used to have to logout with the mouse after weach switch (usually a ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X if you have the keyboard working will also restore your mouse) I also have an IBM desktop system in my switched array and it wants to lose the mouse--in fact doesn't want to detect my switched mouse at all. I have to use a separate mouse with that computer only. I am using a Belkin Omnicube switch. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mouse and keyboard stop responding
Lee wrote: On Saturday 05 January 2002 04:13 pm, Roberto Armenteros wrote: I recently bought a monitor-keyboard-mouse switch so that I can share a set of monitor-keyboard-mouse between my two boxes. When I switch from the linux box to my other box and then comeback to linux, my mouse doesn't work, while the keyboard works sometimes. Somehow when I disconnect the mouse from linux and plug it back in, which is what the switch does linux doesnt recognize the mouse anymore, and then I have to restart X so it will work again. They keyboard also presents some problems. I am sure there is another way of reconnecting the mouse, but I dont know how. Also, is there anyway of making this process autmatic? I use KDE mostly. I would really appreciate if somebody gives me a hand... :) Roberto __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ All kvm switches are not created equal. The problem is that your computer needs to think the mouse is there when it isn't. Easiest solution is probably a spare mouse or maybe trade in your kvm for another. I use a Belkin OmniView 4-Port switch with no problems on any of the boxes. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com OK I have the Belkin Onmi and now for the first time have full functionality after trading keyboards and mice. The mouse that worked on all ports was a Wise-Tech Optical (yeh the wheelmouse that I hate) and the one that failed on one machine was a logitech trackball, also optical type. The keyboard that got lost every time I switched was a mini-Micro innovations, and the one that worked was a sadly abused and scarred monorail. Each of these devices worked when directly attached to the computer; however, the Belkin apparently attenuates thew signal slightly more so it can't quite flip the threshhold voltage of two of the devices. Restarting X, reloading the driver worked for the funky keyboard... nothing helped non-detection of the mouse on one machine. Now everything works fine. The problem was and is electrical and concerns different specs. Sometimes, apparently the timing and signal strength of the device attached to the switch interacts inadequately with either the switch or with the target computer... Switching is usually done solid-state and apparently feeds through the signal and there is some attenuation before it reaches the computer so that the computer may not see it on the threshhold--this also explains why sometimes a device is seen on switching and sometimes not. Civileme P. S. Thanks for the question... I now have ONE mouse on my desktop though I hate it. I miss my trackball. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] diskdrake doesn't show partitions
Barbara Pfieffer wrote: But, the problem is, the partition I added is my /home partition. I'm afraid I'll lose it, following your instructions. Here's fdisk p output and my df. Will I lose my /home partition? Barbara Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2431 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 1640 13173268+ c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hda2 1641 2431 6353707+ 5 Extended /dev/hda5 1641 1671248976 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 1672 2057 3100482 83 Linux /dev/hda7 2058 2115465853+ 83 Linux Command (m for help): q [root@mhar bjp]# df Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 3051760 2149852746884 75% / none192116 0192116 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda8 2498348283956 2087484 12% /home /dev/hda1 13159416 9178120 3981296 70% /mnt/windows tester wrote: Barbara Pfieffer wrote: I used Diskdrake to add a partition, and now, when I run it, it shows an empty harddrive. There is a partition table and fstab works, since I can boot into both Windows and Linux. Is there a way to fix it so I can use it to resize a partition? Barbara Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com You added a linux-extended partiton type, most probably. In most circumstances Diskdrake can make sense of this, but it is a partition table recovery item, so it will not always do so. You see, the partition table on a drive is 66 bytes, the last 66 bytes of the 512 bytes of the first sector on the disk Each entry is 16 bytes and there are two signature bytes at the end of the 4 entries. A primary partition has the first and last block of the partition, a number, and a type. There can be at most 4 primary partitions. An extended entry just points to the first sector of an extension and defines the total area. In the first sector of the extension are two partition table entries, the first a partition definition just like the primary partition table that points to the firast genuine partition, and then a pointer to the first sector of the remaining partition available for additional extensions So extensions are defined in a chain. This explains why people with windows extended partitons sometimes can no longer findd them after installing linux--the windows search quits as soon as it encounters a non-windows partition. Now if you say a partition type is linux-extended or just extended then the data fields to be read will have either random data from previous use or filler characters from a previous format, not likely to define a proper chain. In most circumstances, Diskdrake detects this situation and decides thaqt since it is the last entry, the partition table can be corrected... just drop the extended partition. But if the data defines something possible but say overlapping with previous partitioning, diskdrake gives up with a blank table. OK Open a terminal su to root # fdisk /dev/hda or whatever is the drive where you added the partition p to print the partition table on your screen note the number of the partition you added. d to delete the last entry it will ask for the number w to rewrite the partition table and exit # reboot Now you should be able top proceed as before, with a partition table that diskdrake can recognize Naturally, next time you call diskdrake, note that you can save the partiton table to floppy or restore it from floppy from within diskdrake. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com You are correct. You would lose /home. Thewre is nothing in that partition table to make diskdrake act that way. The likeliness of a bad load or bad store of diskdrake is very very high. It suggests either bad media or a disk with failure imminent, but the fact that diskdrake worked correctly once suggests about zero chance for the bad install. OK that is very strange, Back up all data and get a new disk. I can find you a 40G for less than $100 including shipping if you like.. Something is amiss, and it is not likely to get better with age Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SecurityUpdates and Kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk
Michael Viron wrote: At 09:44 PM 01/02/2002 -0500, Andre Dubuc wrote: Well, I finally got SoftwareUpdate to work again. Browsing through the updates I notice the new kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk. Now, I vaguely recall Civileme or someone else warning against updating the kernel through Update. I'm of the school If it ain't broke, don't fix it! -- is this update really necessary? I mean everything except AC97 sound recording works very well. Would you advise that I skip this update? Is it necessary? I'm a bit confused by the additional kernel stuff that's included with the update, i.e.: Kernel-source, kernel-linus 2.4, kernel 2.2 -- Do I upgrade all, or only the 2.4 items? -- These you do not have to install, since they only apply to kernel 2.2.x -- kernel22-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - main copy of the 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-secure-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - secured version of the 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-smp-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - multiprocessor 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-source-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - source for 2.2.19 kernel -- End Do Not Need to Install -- kernel-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - main (base) kernel 2.4.8 kernel-doc-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel documents for 2.4.8 kernel-enterprise-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel supporting over 1 GB memory kernel-headers-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel headers kernel-linus2.2-2.2.20-1.1mdk.i586.rpm - 2.2.20 kernel, linus style (ie, no mandrake patches) kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - 2.4.8 kernel module(s) for laptops kernel-smp-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - multiprocessor 2.4.8 kernel kernel-source-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel source for 2.4.8 HTH, Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _Download_ the kernel stuff you want to update and then _install_ it with rpm -ivh kernel-(numbers)...rpm kernels were never ever meant for update. That gives you a new kernel with old system.map, initrd.img, and /lib/modules/(oldkernel) which usually results in an unworkable mess. It seems possible yet to fool Software Manager into -Uvh instead of -ivh for the kernel if you include a bunch of other packages in the same session. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE Startup Sound
DStevenson wrote: Have you run sndconfig from a shell...this solved my problem that was same as yours. Dave. On Thursday 03 January 2002 1:44 pm, Miark wrote: Civileme, I stand corrected. It did make a difference: now XMMS won't play music at all with any of the three output plugins. mpg123 and ogg13 are dead, too. FreeAmp is the only thing that plays, and when I use it the first time, I do not hear the KDE startup sound. Miark - Original Message - From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE Startup Sound Civileme, It doesn't seem to do anything. Do I need to restart a service or reboot? Miark - Original Message - From: tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE Startup Sound Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:14:44 -0700, Miark wrote: Sound has never worked as it should on my 8.1 with SB Live Value, but it's worked well enough to do what I want (for instance, using mpg123 or ogg132 instead of xmms, etc.). Things are still fine, but I'm regularly expiencing something strange that I thought I ask about. When startx into KDE, I hear no startup sound. But if, later in the session, I play a song, like with mpg123, the KDE startup sound plays all of the sudden. It doesn't affect the music playing at all. It's just weird. Any ideas? Miark Same problem here, - it's no big deal though. Kaj Haulrich - --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hmmm sounds like both OSS and ALSA drivers are loaded and running What happens with chkconfig --del alsa ? (In a terminal as root) Civileme - --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com OK if some things still work, then you were using _both_ OSS and alsa drivers. Now look in /lib/modules/(kernelnumber)/sound for a driver and alias it in in /etc/modules.conf as alias sound drivername (without the .o.gz) and remove any reference to alsa sound drivers, since you have turned alsa off. reboot and see if you get normal sound... Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Zip Drive and fstab
tester wrote: Maureen L. Thomas wrote: I am using Mandrake 8.1. I can access my floppy and my cdrom but not the Zip disk. It is an internal Atapi drive. My fstab entry looks like this: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,icharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 when I try to mount with the icon I get the following message: mount special device /dev/hdd4 does not exist I know it is probably something really simple, but I just can't figure it out. Your help is greatly appreciated. Maureen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com In this case you need to create the device mknod -m a+rw /dev/hdd4 b 22 69 Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ack Typo mknod -m a+rw /dev/hdd4 b 22 68 is what it should be major 22 is ide channel secondary minor 64+partition number is slave drive and partition number combined. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another new problem.. :(
Eric Budinger wrote: Hey All, Well I got my box backup and working. Now here is my other problem. I have only 7.9 megs left on /dev/hda1 which is my root... my /home has over 300 megs. I have a several hundred meg hard drive sitting here that I want to install and run the programs off that. What would be easier? Taking my entire /home and moving it to the new hard drive and re-partitioning my box or what? Any tips? Ideas?Etc? Thanks a ton! Eric Well surgery on / is very difficult, because you cannot unmount it from a running system. You have several options... Method A: If /usr is a subdirectory of / instead of a separately mounted partition, you can move that to the second disk if there is room--Here's how: 1. Put in your second disk 2. boot 3. when you get to the GUI run Mandrake Control Center=Hardware=MountPoints 4. When diskdrake comes up, save your partition table to floppy and make a partition on the second disk called /spusr ,,, When you exit, make sure you answer the save changes to /etc/fstab with a yes, and also make sure you format and mount the partition. 5. after exiting diskdrake, bring up a terminal and $ su password(your root password) # cp -a /usr/* /spusr # kedit /etc/fstab change the line where /spusr is defined to /usr save and exit # mkdir /oldusr # mv /usr /oldusr # umount /spusr # mount /usr Almost done--now recover the space # rm -r /oldusr -f And now you should have much roon in / Method B: It may be that there isn't sufficient room on the new drive or that /usr is already separated. Either... 1. Make room for / by moving those things right after it (by Method A) 2. Install the rpm ext2resize from your distribution disks using Software Manager 3. In a terminal as root run the command ext2end / +(blocks to add) (this can be done while it is live and mounted) OR separate /var from / which will also create space (method A) Almost any other moves will require a reinstallation. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update problem in 8.0
Barbara Pfieffer wrote: I have Mandrake 8.0 installed on a Dell Inspiron 2500. I run Mandrake Update, and setup a security update site. As soon as I do that (and I've reinstalled Mandrake just to check it) it starts filling the trees and when it gets to the security site, it stops at 26% (every time) and freezes. I have to kill the program. So now, basically, I can't update my computer except by getting rpms and using kpackage. Anyone else had this problem and any suggestions on how to fix it? And no, I can't get Mandrake 8.1 to work on this computer, so don't suggest that. Thanks! Barbara Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com do a urpmi.removemedia (ftp.nameofbadsite.com/directorystuff) then try a different mirror. Not all mirrors are managed carefully as they are all volunteered space, and incorrect permissions would cause exactly what you are seeing. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] can not read acrobat files
Stojs wrote: When I click a pdf it starts up something called PS and PFD Viewer, in wich I can see the page numbers in the left of the window. The problem is that all the pages appear blank. I tried a number of different pdfs and every single one does the same. do I have to somehow configure this program? Thanks in advance, Stojs Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well right click on the pdf file and select Open with and type in xpdf in the blank and tick Remember association and from then on pdf files will offer you xpdf and PS files wil be opened by the viewer. In 8.1 the viewer finally works right on ps and pdf files, but xpdf is a great program, too, and it can print the files for you. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Conflict between Printing Sound in LM8.1
Marcia wrote: Dear All, I have been having a long struggle getting my ethernet, sound, and printing all working at the same time. I have studied all relevant files, how-to's, and asked many questions but so far no answer that has worked. I do have a clue now. My sound module is not loaded when I start up. It worked fine in 7, 7.2 and 8 but now in 8.1 it only works when I put sb into the /etc/modules file. After I do that then my printer does not work. My printer and ethernet work just fine without sound but the printer and sound will not work together so far. This tells me there must be a conflict somewhere however I cannot tell where it is. I have checked the /proc/ioports, interrupts, and dma files as well as all others that could be relevant yet cannot find the conflict. This has been so baffling. I have the ESS1868 sound card which works well with the sb sound module. My printer is a brand new HP Deskject 940c which works great as long as I do not install the sound. The same thing was happening with my old Epson Stylus Color before I got this new one. Does anyone have any ideas here? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Get into your BIOS find Power Management where it says ACPI-aware OS, make sure it is set to NO It sounds like ACPI is stacking all your interrupts in one place. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Zip file system not recognized
Todd Slater wrote: I thought everything was OK when mounting my zip, until I put a disk in it. I have the type set to auto, which works fine for floppy and cds, but when I insert a zip disk, I get an error message that it can't recognize the file system, and none is specified. I'm using an IBM/windows disk, I shouldn't have to reformat the disk, should I? TIA, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com ZIP disks are preformatted to be partition 4, so if you have an internal IDE zip on hdd it will be /dev/hdd4 If a SCSI it is sda4 and so on. devfs may not make the device, so you have to do so manually, once, using mknod. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!
AOL Systems wrote: ok i install Linux by CD i know that im just asking that I cannot mount the cdrom when im inside the Linux Systems already (KDE and Gnome) I dont want to reinstall again so what will I do so i will not re-Install again Thanks Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com Julian Opificius wrote: How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM? julian. = At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote: Pls help! I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command ls no directories or files found when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom does not mount-I cannot use my cdrom. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Thanks and God Bless! Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! Respectfully AOL Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com It is very strange to install from a cd and not get iso9660 support in the kernel. What distribution are you using, and what version? Your reluctance to reinstall suggests it is not Mandrake, but that's OK. People here will try to help anyway. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
Dave Sherman wrote: On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 08:51, robin wrote: Dave Sherman wrote: [cut] I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their competing office suite. And if anyone DOES reverse-engineer the file format, then MS can sue them to smithereens, and even try to go for a prison sentence, since their EULA will carry the force of law. I can't seriously see this happening. Microsoft had enough political and economic clout to survive getting sued by Netscape et al., but they don't have the clout to sue Sun - it would be suicidal. Maybe. But they *could* sue OpenOffice.org, and probably shut it down, which would effectively slow, if not stop, development of StarOffice as well. I suspect the real reason for the paucity of .doc filters is that it is such a yucky format that writing a good filter is more trouble than it's worth. wv does a passable job but is far from perfect, and even Star Office only got it right with version 6.0. It is a yucky *and* an undocumented format. This means it requires anyone to reverse engineer it before they can write a filter for it. If you check the OpenOffice.org website, you will see that they were forced to re-write the MS Office filters from scratch, because the StarOffice filters were under an NDA from Sun. It wasn't because of MS licensing, but Sun itself was standing in the way (this may, on second thought, be a carry-over from Sun's purchase of StarOffice from the German Star company that originally developed the software). But here's another scary example, to which Civileme alluded: Samba. What will happen if/when UCITA passes in Washington state, and Microsoft sues the Samba team for reverse-engineering their proprietary software and network protocols? If we are lucky, Samba will be able to continue working outside the US, in one or more countries that are willing to largely ignore US extradition requests (or more accurately, that are so difficult to deal with that MS won't even bother). And any US-based Samba developers will need to leave the team, because MS can go after them individually -- again, for both monetary compensation and imprisonment. One need only look at Adobe's ridiculous actions with regard to Dmitri Sklyarov to realize that MS will not hesitate to try the same thing with any known Samba developer that they can reach. Civileme's further point, to which Doug balked, was that we should all be looking to move away from MS' (or anyone else's, for that matter) proprietary file formats, as a pre-emptive move so that we are not locked into yet another MS monopoly if/when UCITA passes. In our own self-interest, we should be changing to open file formats, like xml (which StarOffice 6.0 uses, by the way). We need .doc filters as a stopgap. No matter how often I tell my colleagues that I refuse to read .doc files, sometimes I just have to. XML is a reasonable lingua franca, but for my own purposes, I'm still a LaTeX man. I agree that we need the filters for now, but it would still be wise to stop using MS' proprietary formats ASAP. As far as using LaTeX, is there a free and easy to use LaTeX editor/word processor for Windows and Macintosh? Just curious -- actually, I thought LaTeX was a document layout/markup language for professional publishing, but not something typically used for word processing. I am betting you need to convert your documents to a different format for others (non-Linux users) to read, yes? Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, the output of Tetex/LaTeX, if printed to a file, is postscript format, printer-ready just about anywhere, and readable by adobe acrobat reader and other programs. LyX is a document processor close to WYSIWYG that runs cross-platform (yes, windows too) which is indispensible if you are dealing with lots of special symbols, margin notes, footnotes, and so on and you don't want to learn native LaTeX commands. KLyX was written for the Qt widget set and X ain a marathon session to show how effective Qt widgets could be. It has great potential if developed. A very nice translator was written quite a while ago called SDF, which can convert postscript, SGML, HTML, pdf and oher formats. It also has its own metalanguage for making documents. It too runs on Windows as well as on others though some Microsoft license agreements might be violated in the latest versions of windows (the Netkit is licensed against living under the same roof with GPL software and Perl--at least Microsoft's atttorneys haven't required that all Microsoft competitiors be addressed as the
Re: [newbie] RE: Zip Drive and fstab
Maureen L. Thomas wrote: I am using Mandrake 8.1. I can access my floppy and my cdrom but not the Zip disk. It is an internal Atapi drive. My fstab entry looks like this: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,icharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 when I try to mount with the icon I get the following message: mount special device /dev/hdd4 does not exist I know it is probably something really simple, but I just can't figure it out. Your help is greatly appreciated. Maureen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com In this case you need to create the device mknod -m a+rw /dev/hdd4 b 22 69 Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My 3 year old computer, is it compatible?
Michael Viron wrote: If it is a Pentium or above, you'll be able to install Mandrake. If it's a 486, you'll still be able to install Mandrake 7.0 for i486 (although that might be a bit sluggish). Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 07:07 AM 12/31/2001 -0800, you wrote: I have a 3 year old computer that is an NEC and it has a motherboard with a really old BIOS ( I don't know its name ) And it has about 64 megabytes of ram and a voodoo 3 or 4 video card and plug and play card with microphone, sound, phone port and another card that is an Ethernet card, will I be able to install mandrake or red hat on it? if not, someone tell me what to do ( for ex: Sell it or use another distro etc. ) P.S oh yeah, I have a wireless mouse and a keyboard and a color printer and two speakers that just have the logo 'NEC' on it and a scanner and a NEC Multisync xv14 and I have 2 computers, the one I just told you about, and the one (the GOOD one with Viewsonic 17 inch monitor, some good sound card, some multimedia speaker, wireless ball wheel mouse, wireless keyboard, custom made computer, 48X CD Drive and a 6x max CDR drive and a floppy drive and a zip drive (external) Usb Card, 2 Ethernet cards and a plug and play card with all the ones the old one has except phone port, and Pentium 3 500 Mhz, 380 megabyte of ram using MS WINDOWS ME Which I am quite pissed at) ANYWAYS don't get confused by my long description, just tell me yes or no if it is compatible (oh I almost forgot, need a new battery for it, you know, the little flat circle battery) Hmm, without the battery, you may not be able to do much at all, because it keeps your configuration in CMOS RAM on the motherboard. The newer computer is certainly compatible and will work as a dual-boot. If the older one doesn't work with Mandrake, there is always Peanut-Linux, a 99Mb download with only one desktop (I believe they are using Enlightenment now). Civileme -- Always Expect The Unexpected -Richard Kim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
Michael Leone wrote: I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their competing office suite. Sun licenses the file formats from MS, don't they? They didn't reverse-engineer them, I thought. Well, no one requires Microsoft to offer such licenses, but the point again is that your data is hostage if they want it to be, and you will have to purchase upgrades on their schedule or lose what you have. If you do not keep your data on windows proprietary formats now, it is wise to remain in that position. You may have to run their OS to communicate with their captives, but you don't need to keep your data there. Send stuff out as HTML, and they can read it, or use .rtf, their open format, and run one Winsystem with Office to receive their communiques. (Printing to a file might help or to a computer which is masquerading as a plain-text printer, under Samba, for as long as the free software community can keep Samba compatible). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU Speed Question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I am rather new to Linux, I go back to before the CP/M days in computing. However, I have a question pertaining to the CPU requirement for Mandrake V8.1 vs other distributions, Specifically SuSE V7.3. The systems I run here on Linux are based on the old AMD K6-2/300 CPU. I've noted that Mandrake V8.1 runs quite a bit slower than SuSE V7.3 on the same platforms. I know Mandrake was optimized for Pentium CPUs, whereas the SuSE distribution still specifies a 486DX CPU as its minimum spec processor. Any comments, and has anyone else seen similar results? Tnx, Don Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com It is all a matter of the vm in the kernel. SuSE has 4 updates a year and I think their kernel has significantly later vms than the 8.1. If you use the updated kernel, you may find it improved, but obviously the 8.2 version will be much better. I am finding significant improvement on K6-2 platforms with kernel 2.4.16. If you install 8.1 with kernel22 you should find pervormance quite snappy. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to browse via Netscape
minhaz_islam wrote: I having problems browsing the Internet using Netscape. I have Linux Mandrake 7.1 and can connect to my ISP using my external 56k modem. Everytime I browse the Internet, I receive a message saying the home.netscape.com cannot be found. I can browse using web IP addresses, such as Yahoo.com (216.32.74.51) using Netscape, but when I enter www.yahoo.com, I receive the above error message. I am not sure if I need any details in my file etc\resolv.conf. Can any one help me with this problem, please ? Minhaz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, in kppp you need to specify the IP addresses of your ISP's nameservers If your address is one that is part of your ISP, the nameserver is 194.164.117.2 Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP! WinXP
Hugo Saro wrote: Guys, i didn't find any other place to post this, so if anyone can help me here.. My new computer came with Windows XP (Pro) installed. It was running fine till suddenly, somethings began not to work. The search (F3) only showed a blank area, User Accounts under control panel would no longer work (Blank area again), and even the Check All Delete buttons (yahoo) among others won't work anymore. This is stressing me, obviously. I've mailed microsoft but they replied with the usual contact computer manufacturer or check this site, so no much help from them. Ultimately, could any one help on how to create a bootdisk for ntfs ? i'm getting tired of XP anyway so if i can't fix it.. Thanks in advance __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well you are not the only XP user to show here. We had one whose Microsoft keyboard and mouse disappeared after an upgrade.. and also after a fresh install of XP. This disappearance suggests a likely hardware problem. If you can give us the make and model of computer, we may be able to get the right contact point for you if it is hardware. Generally any computer manufacturer has a vested interest in solving your problem the first time you call, because three calls kill all the profit in selling you the system. It is not possible to make a dual-boot linux with windows XP running ntfs and having the whole disk to start with. If you want to try linux you will either have to reinstall XP with FAT32 or install it on a partition less than the whole disk leaving a space unpartitioned or use partition magic or a similar tool to work with the partitions. One of the disadvantages of using free software is that it deals mostly with formats that are not secret or priprietary or for which one must sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement to obtain information. With all of that said, yes we are willing to help anyone with any system here, but some systems we know more about than others. The more we know about your hardware setup and system, the better positined we will be to help you. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
Michael Scottaline wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 01:28:01 -0500 Maureen L. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled gleefully: I upgraded to KDE 2.2 and am using K-Office. So far it hasn't crashed or froze on me and I have imported all the documents I was using from Lotus SmartSuite and it hasn't lost a thing. I am very pleased with it. Some small improvements in K-Spread are needed, like multi copy, but otherwise it works just fine. KWord does everything that I need for home and for a couple of non profit orgs I help out. All in all it all works fairly decently. Interesting, Maureen, but how about the export filters? Will K-Office successfully export to M$Office or Lotus SmartSuite. Can a document be saved in .doc or .xlm or whatever. When I tried to import a form (lots of tables) from a Word file that that StarOffice handled flawlessly, there were too many errors in the K-Word version to make the form usable. Ordinary Word docs (mere text) seem to work OK. Thanks for the review, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com One of the things that _no_one_ should be concerned about any longer is compatibility with MS Office. FYI, there is an act purchasing its way through various state legislatures in the US called UCITA, which places some obligations on software manufacturers but gives their license agreements the full force and effect of law. When it passes in Washington State, the upgrade after its passage will be _illegal_ to reverse engineer for the purpose of making import filters, and folks who use MS software will no longer be able to call their data their own. UCITA does not obligate the software maker to provide export filters. So if someone wants to make a conversion after this event, it will be with a printer and an OCR-enabled scanner. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] managed to freeze the system!
Doug Lerner wrote: In the console I issued the following command: jrxvt The process id returned and after that I am unable to do anything except move the cursor. No windows respond. No mouse buttons respond. Before I force a restart - any suggestions? doug Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com ctrl-alt-backspace? or ctrl-alt-f2, login as root and killall jrxvt, then ctrl-alt-f7 or go in with ssh and killall jrxvt Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Compiling a new kernel...
David Bovill wrote: The instructions I have say download the 2 RPM's (source and header), but I just need to add a custom kernel based on the existing configuration. How do I go about this, as the packages are already installed? Thanks, David file:/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/ref.html/index.html as a url in your favorite browser should open the reference manual on your machine. There is a step-by-step in chapter 15 (8.0) and chapter 16 (8.1) on compiling the kernel. If you want to customize the one already there, follow the text skipping the download instructions and jumping to /usr/src/linux. BE really careful to assign a different build number to the vmlinuz product and the /lib/modules entry so you don't trample what you already have--once you are done, both should be bootable and in fact you should be able to use Control Center to make a boot configuration for your kernel. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML 8.0 install CDROM can't find my CDROM
Roland Berger wrote: When I try to install ML8.0 I get the following problem. First I describe the installation steps I did. - CD is deteced as a boot cd. System tells that drive letter is mapped to A and the floppy is now B -The Mandrake welcome screen is displayd where you can choose to press F1 or ENTER. I choose ENTER to start installatin. - Some messages are displayed. The last one before the probelm appears is: Welcome to Linux Mandrake (8.0) - Then: Please wait Installing Adaptec¦AHA-2940U2 - Then: Error! No CDROM device found After this a list of 34 driver is displayed to choose the driver with which the SCSI Adapter can be accessed. Non of the diplayed drivers works. It looks like it can read from the CDROM in a first step but after installing the Adpatec Driver it fails to do so. That's very strange to me. So, does any body know the source of the problem? Would ML8.1 solve this problem? Best regards Roland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com There was a change in the adaptec driver in 8.0 because Adaptec changed its firmware. Not all adaptec cards are flashable for the new firmware and there is a driver called aic7xxx_old in /lib/modules once you are installed. The first boot is from the BIOS and the second stage is from the kernel loaded in with a driver incompatible with your card's firmware. Look in /images/alternatives for cdrom.img-2.2.19...BADZ5 and make a boot floppy from it, then use the boot floppy to get 8.0 installed Or, If you decide to use 8.1, the newer driver for adaptec _may_ have unified your card as well (some yes, some no, there have been more than 150 PROM versions of 2940s) but if not, boot from the second CD and choose an alternate image. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] c compiler and its problem in 8.0
eric wrote: Dear mandrake 8.0 standard user: I used simple c program hello world, in printf(hello world) it did not print at all, until I add \n\n at the end of the line of hello world, then it print as what it should be. but that kind of result is not correct. it never happen at redhat 7.1 or debian-progeny 1.0, they all can print even without \n\n at the end of string. need help, and thanks inn advance, eric lin, http://www.onlineexchange.com/shilin url so far, will add later What that means is that our compiler is stricter... It insists on proper C code. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Agfa Snapscan Touch scanner
Jon Doe wrote: Does anyone have one of these scanners working? In LM8.1 it shows up when I plug it in. Xsane even pops up an icon on my desk when I plug it in, but it just says it cant open /dev/usb/scanner. Has anyone got this working? Can anyone explain it in newbie terms? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com If you are lucky enough to have the e40, you are OK. See this: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=816 It may be that you simply did not load all relevant softeware... try opening the Software manager (local on CD sources) and checking that you have sane and usb modules installed and installing them if not. Most snapscans are in sane-backend drivers after sane 1.0.3. Also, your /dev/usb/scanner may not exist which is why it cannot be opened. You can manufacture one with mknod using the numbers in /usr/share/jkernel-doc (kernel number)/devices.txt Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 8.1 Updates
Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Rob K wrote: As far as I know, you've done the ONLY upgrade that is *NOT* recommended through Mandrake update!! You have to download it and install using rpm -ivh kernel.rpm I've done this way and it was just perfect! There was indeed a warning email from mandrake for not using the MU for kernel upgrading. I don't know about the kernel-headers and source []s Ricardo Castanho Sorry if this has already been asked! I'm installing MDK 8.1 mainly to act as a server for my ADSL connection here in the UK. I've managed to get it running and was happy till I tried to do the mandrake updates. One of them is a kernel update which I thought Hmm looks important better do it 20mins later 1 reboot and hang on whats going on??? nothing is working!!! wargh!! Now 3 rebuilds later (ok so I don't learn I thought it was something I'd done) still no joy. Have I missed something stupidly simple or is this a bug with MU??? Many Thanks Rob K Trying to Run MDK 8.1 with an Alcatel Speedtouch on BTOpenworld. - -- delivery NOT reliable = [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Linux user # 102240 = Machine # 96125 = Seti@home user == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwuLNwACgkQqJymTCNNyXE4vACfdl8aQrt/qxxbFnYi9GX3kZT+ f6EAn1tl0Ocyo8XsyhgbIYGPpq65/57R =YnO+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Here is what I just sent to several departments Naturally we have people still on 8.0 who use mandrakeUpdate/SoftWare Manager to update the update kernels, and we have had several folks who ran Software Manager for 8.1 and did multiple updates in one session who managed to get the effect of and rpm -Uvh on the kernel update package. Here is what to tell them: 1. Open a terminal and get the installed kernel version number with $ uname -a 2. su to root 3. issue this command # rpm -e kernel-(version number from the uname output) 4. Put in the install CD and # reboot 5. Tick the expert mode and click the right-hand Update button on class of install. (Yes, some people could not find it because they expected the right -hand button to be Cancel and did not read it.) 6. Let the installer fuss and cluck til it figures out that all it has to do is install the kernel. Pass package selection and go to individual packaghe selection. Use the two-blue-arrow symbol at the bottom to toggle to the flat list and scroll down to the k's and check to assure the kernel is checked to be installed. 7. If you tried to restore connectivity by running network when you had troubles, reinstall your network, otherwise, you can leave it alone. 8. Fine-tune your X install if you like 9. Kill the old_ packages offered by the bootloader. 10. Now, after your system comes back up, _download_ the kernel update and install it as root in a terminal with rpm -ivh kernel-(number of the update kernel)[TAB][enter] I don't know if we should consider this for the errata pages but I have had a flood of these complaints recently. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] bash scripting for beginners
Andrei Raevsky wrote: Hello, I am looking for a good bash scripting tutorial/manual for BEGINNERS who are new Bash, Linux and scripting. Ideally - a book in PDF format or something in HTML. Please let me know if you know were I could find such an item. Thanks! Andrei _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I think there is probably an ebook on it in your install or one you can access by update selecting the documentation package. I learned from O'Reilly's Linux in a Nutshell plus sturfdying the initscripts for Mandrake.(no joke). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Segmentation+misc. install errors ?
lee wrote:
Hi Folks,
Well I'm back to my son's box still trying to get 8.1 installed. Here is the
gist of the guts :-)
It's an FIC motherboard (va-503+) w/192 mg. of ram. Now the memory consists
of 2 sticks,1 is a 128 mg of crucial ram that is cl2. The other is a stick I
bought from Tiger Direct. I've also got an ATI RAge 128 Pro (AGP card). In
addition there is a Teac cdr along with another cdrom. The hd is a WD unit.
Oh..and the bios is by award..version je-439 (if this helps). There is also a
nic card that needs to go in,whch isn't in there at the moment. All of this
is in an AT type case...
The errors are seg faults..seems like memory is missing..lots of sig
11's,,hmm a few other wordings but it sounds like the themes are the same
across all of them.
I've tried a # of different settings..video shadowing off/on,turned the
caches off/on,the pci burst settings and a variety of other things that don't
seem to come to mind at the moment. Re-set the ram to cl3 ( took out what I
percieved as the cheaper ram (the tiger) and used just the crucial)pnp
off/on..irq manual/auto. Darn near all of 'em I think..lol. Bios
defaults..set-up defaults...gee have I missed any..lol. I'm sure I have but
you get the point :-)
I even tried taking the drive to another box,loaded 8.1 (gaming edition) and
put it back in the machine (it didn't like my trickery) to no avail.
Look--there is no doubt what it is at all. If you suspect memory make a
floppy from
/images/memtest-x86.bin
on the first CD and boot from it.
But I can reproduce your errors with a WD 64AA rifght here... seems
like memory missing...
And with a maxtor, I am fine
I am also able to get better performance with
linux ide0=noautotune
and a 40 pin cable instead of 80. Install will complete on the WD one
time in three. Afterwards I see the odd {DriveReady SeekComplete} error
from the WD on boot but it runs flakily after a fashion.
WD drives were never properly set up in terms of hardware to do ATA/66
or higher. They don't have the hardware to do the required 57-byte CRC
in the standard, yet chipset manufacturers have let them get away with
that crap for years. WD has told us at shows repeatedly that they
support only windows (with all their drives) and Solaris (with their
SCSI line).
It is really time for people who hope to run linux to seriously consider
a permanent switch of hdd brands.
Civileme
As I'm not sure which direction to go next I thought I'd post my problem
here. The boy had 98se on there before and I REALLY REALLY don't wanna admit
defeat and re-install that !! Win4Lin,sure..but straight 98..NO !! Now..I'm
thinking maybe pull out the cdr (set as sec. master and where I'm installing
from) and try again ? I have a PCI video card I can try ?
Anyway..if anyone has managed to get past issues such as this I'd really love
to know how it was done,or be pointed to the correct docs to work it out on
my own. I spent 12+ hours trying to deal w/this the day before y'day before I
come crying to the list..lol.
Thank you all once again..so very much for your time :-)
Lee
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[newbie] Which Kernel?
Someone writes in another subject's post... I hope you get it all worked out before you get tired of trying. Another question: My box (Mandrake Linux 8.1 Powerpack) says I have kernels 2.4.8 and 2.2.19. But when I installed (over and over) I never saw a place for choosing kernels. It seems I have 2.4.8.26 installed automatically? Well, you use expert mode and individual package selection and find trhe little symbol at the bottom of the screen that looks like recycling but with two blue arrows to toggle from the mostly useless tree view to the flat view and then scroll down to the k's and pick kernel22 to be installed. Then when bootloader time rolls around, you can make the kernel22 boot the default or even delete the kernel 2.4 boots if you like. If you have a box that just doesn't like kernel 2.4 to begin with boot from the _second_ CD and you can use kernel22 as your install kernel as well. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel update
Eric wrote: I did a kernel header, doc, and kernel update with mandrake on my 8.0 system. Everything installed just fine but I can no longer use ppp to get on the internet. I tried modprobe -v ppp and it can't seem to find it. I am out of ideas. Crapola I shouldn't have updated through security updates. Eric You didn't read the security advisory which would have told you that you _cannot_ update a kernel. You must download it and _install_ it. Updating produces a new kernel with the older modules, initrd.img, and System.map and it is a miracle if it even boots. Civileme Everything but kernels will update OK through the security updates. We have tried to make sure that Software manager in 8.1 will only install kernels, but we have discovered it can be fooled in multiple updates at once. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AOL Help!-Hardisk!
AOL Systems wrote: How to mount and unmount second hardisk on my linux box Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well it should be in your /etc/fstab for convenience sake, but you can as root mount /pattitionname /mountpoint umount /partitionname or umount /mountpoint partitionname would be like /dev/hdc5 and mountpoint is just a directory name like /2nddisk/files or /mnt/2nddisk. You do need to create the directory before using it as a mount point with mkdir /mnt/2nddisk Of course you can do this automagically with diskdrake--yes the very same tool as is used in installing. just open Mandrake Control Center, then Hardware then MountPoints, and you will be there with diskdrake. assign mount points to the second drive partitions as you choose, then mount them, and answer yes to updating /etc/fstab with changes as you leave diskdrake. Now you can mount and unmount with mount /mountpointname umount /mountpointname in a terminal as root at any time no programs are using the 2nd disk (yeh, if it is open in a file manager, it won't unmount). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which Kernel?
Nelson Bartley wrote: Civilme, this brings me to a new question, Does the DraX installer use a 2.4 kernel to perform the install? if so, what revision is it? NB On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 13:14, tester wrote: Someone writes in another subject's post... I hope you get it all worked out before you get tired of trying. Another question: My box (Mandrake Linux 8.1 Powerpack) says I have kernels 2.4.8 and 2.2.19. But when I installed (over and over) I never saw a place for choosing kernels. It seems I have 2.4.8.26 installed automatically? Well, you use expert mode and individual package selection and find trhe little symbol at the bottom of the screen that looks like recycling but with two blue arrows to toggle from the mostly useless tree view to the flat view and then scroll down to the k's and pick kernel22 to be installed. Then when bootloader time rolls around, you can make the kernel22 boot the default or even delete the kernel 2.4 boots if you like. If you have a box that just doesn't like kernel 2.4 to begin with boot from the _second_ CD and you can use kernel22 as your install kernel as well. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com We issue the software with one version of the kernel to run and the same version to install (but in a special configuration with the drivers likely to be needed) For example, you probably won't be installing from CDs attached to a sound card with a 34 or 40 pin cable proprietary interface any more, so we removed those drivers to make space fo r the things you most often use. Remember the install kernel and its modules _must_ fit a 1.44 floppy, and run framebuffer or VGA-style X Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel update
Eric wrote: That's what I get for not rtfm! So do I have to reinstall the os? If I reinstall, I do have the 8.1 waiting in the background but just want to do an upgrade, not reformat everything. So I guess there is nothing I can do? Thanks for responding civileme. eric - Original Message - From: tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] kernel update Eric wrote: I did a kernel header, doc, and kernel update with mandrake on my 8.0 system. Everything installed just fine but I can no longer use ppp to get on the internet. I tried modprobe -v ppp and it can't seem to find it. I am out of ideas. Crapola I shouldn't have updated through security updates. Eric You didn't read the security advisory which would have told you that you _cannot_ update a kernel. You must download it and _install_ it. Updating produces a new kernel with the older modules, initrd.img, and System.map and it is a miracle if it even boots. Civileme Everything but kernels will update OK through the security updates. We have tried to make sure that Software manager in 8.1 will only install kernels, but we have discovered it can be fooled in multiple updates at Hmmm, no you are not that messed... Find your 8.0 install disk boot and open an xterm and su to root and rpm -e kernel-(version number instsalled) then reboot with your install CD in the machine Select expert mode and Update It will fuss and cluck figuring out all it has to do is install the kernel At individual package selection, toggle to the flat list and check that the kernel will be installed. Let it run its course--you can skip the networking section because it si already set up, and you can try to fine-tune X if you like... Let the bootloader be your friend Your system should then be restored. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MDK 8.1 Problems
Amichai Rotman wrote: Hello all, I have been running Mandrake Linux since it's 7.2 release. I never had problems untill I upgraded to v8.1. I am running the following: An MSI 6163 Lite (VIA Chipset) M/B (with a Creative CT5880 Sound Card onboard) 533 MHz Intel Celleron CPU 128 MB RAM 1 15 GB Quantum HD, 1 20 GB Quantum HD Creative Sound Blaster 128 PCI A CTX PR705F Monitor. Win98SE and, of course, MDK 8.1. I have migrated from M$ 6 months ago and was very happy with the move. My problems with 8.1 are as follow: Some times the whole desktop (KDE) freezes, nothing helps but the reset bottun. Could be a sound drivers lockup Afer every boot, I have to run sndconfig and restart the sound service for the KMix app to work under X. I have the Onboard CT5880 disabled. get into a terminal su to root # chkconfig --del alsa Bet you have two sets of drivers loaded for the same sound card (OSS and ALSA). I can hear the MPEG movies I play with plaympeg, but not see them... The Konqueror Browser (both the KFM and the WEB parts) stop working after a few times of use, I have to exit X, su and delete DCOP random seeds and user files under /tmp. Or forward to KDE 2.2.2--some of these are strictly kde bugs. All of these are really annoying. I am wondering, should I go back to v8.0 ? Thanks, Amichai. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using Japanese?
Doug Lerner wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Why i18n? I would have never thought of looking there for languages! doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Friday, December 28, 2001): Doug Lerner wrote: I was hping to do Japanese reading and writing without installing a Japanese OS interface. Every time somebody suggests something like that I always think, Do they also suggest installing a French OS if they want to read and write email in French? :-) I didn't see anything in the installation about additional languages. Certainly nothing came up during the recommended install. Is there a way of running the installer again and adding stuff to the existing installation? Thanks, Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thursday, December 27, 2001): Doug Lerner wrote: Is there something analagous to the Japanese Language Toolkit in MacOS that I can install so that I can read and write Japanese? Thanks, Doug Lerner, Tokyo H well since you have one partition open where win2k was, try searching on Two Mandrake at www.mandrakeforum.com and set up a second mandrake system and choose to _install_ in Japanese. Also, the install usually permits additional languages--there is no specific kit, just additional languages that may be chosen. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Yes of course. Drop in the install CD and when it comes to class of install, select Expert mode and Update instead of install. It will fuss and cluck til it discovers it has no packages to update then offer you categorical and individual package selection--look at the i18n files for linux and kde and you will find Japanese. BTW, as the worst ergonomics in the whole installer, the individual packages selection screen has a little symbol at the bottom of the window that looks like recycling with only two blue arrows instead of three green ones--this toggles from the useless tree list to the flat list of packages. Use it. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com It's a sound mnemonic i-onenation Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux - slave drive
Mithrilhall2000 wrote: I just put in a slave hard drive into my linux computer and when starting up the computer it sees the slave drive but when I'm in linux I don't see it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. The slave drive currently has windows on it. Thanks in advance, Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, yes, run diskdrake, mount the drive from there then say to save the info to /etc/fstab when asked. It probably sees the dribve just fine but you have no definition for the partition(s) and mount point(s). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux - slave drive
Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 28 December 2001 01:30, you wrote: Ok, I must be an idiot because I can't find diskdrake anywhere. Can you point me to where it is? Thanks again - Original Message - From: tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux - slave drive Mithrilhall2000 wrote: I just put in a slave hard drive into my linux computer and when starting up the computer it sees the slave drive but when I'm in linux I don't see it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. The slave drive currently has windows on it. Thanks in advance, Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, yes, run diskdrake, mount the drive from there then say to save the info to /etc/fstab when asked. It probably sees the dribve just fine but you have no definition for the partition(s) and mount point(s). Civileme --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Just open a console and at the prompt type 'su' without the quotes and give your root password and then at the next promp type diskdrake, voila!. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Mandrake Control CenterHardwareMount Points Toggle to expert mode only if necessary. Saving to floppy is a good idea and is standard for diskdrake so that you can restore if you mess up the partition table. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 0.9.4?
dfox wrote: On Monday 17 December 2001 06:04, Brian Parish wrote: 1. install apt (apt-0.3.19cnc51-1mdk.i586.rpm) I could not find this in my 8.1 Mandrake archive. Where can I get a copy? I've heard of some really good experiences with apt from Debian people, and have wanted this on Mandrake. MandrakeUpdate/urpmi whatever it's called is OK but can eat up a lot of RAM. rpmfind is a little better at finding dependencies and installing, but not (from what I've heard) as good as apt is. I think it's debatable whether or not the Debian package format is supposed to make this depencency problem better than RPM - the feedback I have gotten suggest .deb is better. Actually not. .deb packages are under much stricter prep guidelines and are prepared by a much smaller group. There is nothing in the tech specs that makes them better. But rpms are used by a much broader audience and have developed much more rapidly, so expect them to surpass debs in all capabilities eventually. The big thing is standardizing them because some distros use 3 others 4 and not everyone uses rpmlint. You want rpm-get to load debs. Also note that mandrake rpms are apt-get capable. Civileme I've found apt faster and more reliable than Mandrake's own *rpmi (MandrakeUpdate); the downside is that it doesn't tell you when something brand new has been added to the cooker. It also seems to ignore packages Apparently, the Debian people get around that by just doing an apt-get dist-upgrade in a cron job and wake up in the morning with any/all new additions. rsyncing a local mirror of cooker might be just as well, but that won't automagicaly install any new RPMS that it finds. Last time (back when I was using 7.2) I tried a version of apt I found somewhere on Cooker but I was not able to get it to work, mostly because of unconfigured sample files and stuff like that. I'd really like to get a resource file for apt that is well-configured for Mandrake (cooker or otherwise). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux - slave drive
Mithrilhall2000 wrote: Ok, I must be an idiot because I can't find diskdrake anywhere. Can you point me to where it is? Thanks again - Original Message - From: tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux - slave drive Mithrilhall2000 wrote: I just put in a slave hard drive into my linux computer and when starting up the computer it sees the slave drive but when I'm in linux I don't see it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. The slave drive currently has windows on it. Thanks in advance, Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, yes, run diskdrake, mount the drive from there then say to save the info to /etc/fstab when asked. It probably sees the dribve just fine but you have no definition for the partition(s) and mount point(s). Civileme If all else fails, open a terminal, su to root and # diskdrake It works Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
Maureen L. Thomas wrote: I upgraded to KDE 2.2 and am using K-Office. So far it hasn't crashed or froze on me and I have imported all the documents I was using from Lotus SmartSuite and it hasn't lost a thing. I am very pleased with it. Some small improvements in K-Spread are needed, like multi copy, but otherwise it works just fine. KWord does everything that I need for home and for a couple of non profit orgs I help out. All in all it all works fairly decently. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I have the same feeling. StarOffice has much more than I need and is non-free. Open Office is not ready with its features. KWord is OK if you stay away from the Lucida fonts (which will permanently destroy the structure of your document for printing) and you take care and don't try to stretch its abilities into a framemaker. For docs in excess of 20 pages and for all technical works, I lean to LyX and LaTEX, because I learned on what eventually became Borland's Sprint. StarOffice I see as something nice if you want to make a presentation with photos printed right in them, but even then I would prefer the higher performance available from Applix, even though I have to pay for it. So I agree, why use something with more capability than you need? Open Office has some mighty concepts, the most powerful of which is to use a plain-text data storage format (with XML encoding, but no special characters), and it might be wonderful someday, but right now you cannot install it to the spot specified by the Linux Standard Base for add-on software and expect it to work, which is a fatal flaw for a distro that is trying to comply with the LSB. AbiWord is good for some. I like emacs and LyX, and sometrimes use Ted, which will give me richest text format output, and I have used KWord successfully for smaller reports. The important thing is not what your personal preference is but that it will handle the work you do. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 25 December 2001 07:17 pm, Doug Lerner wrote: What do people think about free vs commercial software in general? I myself don't object to commercial software. In fact, I work for a company that makes very high-quality commercial software with a great, loyal customer base. Surely there is nothing wrong with paying to have software supported and updated? doug Well the analogy of the clay pot may not be good at all. Consider this-- I make a clay pot, and I fire it and I go to a lawyer and show him the product and get him to draft a patent so that no one else can glaze clay pots or decorate them in any way without paying me royalties. I file the patent and use the proceeds from my clay pots to threaten to keep anyone else who fires clay pots in court for years of ruinous spending battling my army of lawyers unless they pay me ransom for protection against lawsuit. This has happened more than once. Long before hyperlinks were a reality, British Telecom patented the idea of them and could make life difficult for all of us. Does your specilaized software use hyperlinks? or perhaps themes? Well the idea of themes belongs to Apple computing... Patented. As a matter of fact, you cannot write software without significant risk of inadvertant infringement. And the current patent laws set up a legal protection racket whereby technology companies trading in intellectual property with a CEO and a couple battalions of lawyers and _no_ programmers make themselves moderately wealthy by extorting license fees for protection from suit. It even gets as subtle as We hold patent to this technology and your website subscribers might be using graphics in our format created with unlicensed software, but you can buy a license to avoid litigation in the event this does occur for $7.500 The problem does not rest with Intellectual property but with application which has definitely become a reductio ad absurdem. Non-productive drones feast off the efforts of the workers, the software writers, and squelch creativity. This is the reality and it is why anything I write is GPL. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is an anti-virus mandatory ?
tek1 wrote: hi robin. is there a detailed description as to what each mandrake security level entails (e.g. what settings are changed)? also, is there a way to change the level easily after installation? thx and happy holidays! :) At 14:39 01/12/25 +0200, you wrote: There are a few worms that can get into a Linux system, but again you should only be worried if you're running a server - for normal workstation purposes, it's enough to set security on Mandrake to medium. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com go to control center and click on security and you can do it there. Security levels go as follows Welcome to Crackers --Level 0 -- no login or password and you are running as root Poor -- No checks and no passwords, user and root are distinct Level 1 Low -- Suitable for a modicum of security on unconnected computers ... Passwords and users are intact but no dynamic checking is done. Medium--Dynamic security checking is done and you get mail from the msec daemon about weak points Suitable for workstations connected to internet High--checking and correction of some problem areas is done Root login is not allowed, no services are started by default Suitable for most server use Weak passwords not permitted Paranoid--Level 5--Suitable for DNS and other servers where tunneling becomes a possibility. Most everything has to be run in chroot jails or it won't work. Now for more detail, try file:/usr/share/doc/msec-0.15 right on your installed system. Same general rule applies--look for a program name folder in /usr/share/doc when you have questions about other software. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using Japanese?
Doug Lerner wrote: Is there something analagous to the Japanese Language Toolkit in MacOS that I can install so that I can read and write Japanese? Thanks, Doug Lerner, Tokyo H well since you have one partition open where win2k was, try searching on Two Mandrake at www.mandrakeforum.com and set up a second mandrake system and choose to _install_ in Japanese. Also, the install usually permits additional languages--there is no specific kit, just additional languages that may be chosen. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] drive doesn't want to be partitioned
Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, tester wrote: Civileme! Isn't possible that using a third party program (like Norton System Works) the windows swap file is located at the end of the disk? This happened to me once! I had to use the 'original' defrag [sorry I forgot the real name!] from MS (I know that defrag was bought from Norton!). Ricardo Castanho This one means that a windows program has placed a non-relocatable cluster near the end of the disk or that you are using the NTFS filesystem which we do not write-enable in the install kernel. SInce you are running 98 which does not support NTFS, do the disk defrag and scroll down on the full display--near the bottom you will find one or more red-marked clusters. The solution is non-trivial, Either remove programs one by one and defrag and try linux after each such removal or install linux on another large disk with a grub boot, copy all of your windows data over (but not your installed programs), then scrub windows and go back to fdisk and set up windows on a smaller primary partition, reinstalling software then set up linux again on the primary master drive and mount the second drive to restore the data you wanted to back up. I have done this in another situation--a rather full 10G disk where Win98 was installed and the user attempted an XP upgrade, losing mouse and keyboard (both Microsoft brand hardware products, BTW) in the process. I could not shrink the winpartition enough to make room for the 2.2G of data he wanted to rescue, so I used a second disk and a linux install on it, then scrubbed the first disk after copyiong over the info he wanted. The clean install of XP still could not see his mouse or keyboard, so he is running 98 and Mandrake dual boot these days, and he seems very grateful that linux was able to save his data from an otherwise trashed situation. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com - -- delivery NOT reliable = [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Linux user # 102240 = Machine # 96125 = Seti@home user == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwqug4ACgkQqJymTCNNyXGByQCgrYWSrQna1gn0mAmnRabi/RMr GV4An3DD04wz5YKxBd0tZlrb5G9KwHE1 =Qykl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, I am no expert on windows and I have never used Norton, but putting the swap file out there is possibly a way to mess things up. Certainly placing the swap file where there is _guaranteed_ to be a lot of stepping is very inefficient, but then most winprogrammers are more concerned with just getting something to work cause no one really uses all that horsepower under the hood. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
Michael Scottaline wrote: On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 10:25:10 +0900 Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Thanks, Steven. Well, everybody seems quite psyched abotu OpenOffice and StarOffice. I will give those a try. Nobody seems to mention Hancom Office. Has anybody tried them? Of course free is nice, but I am not a fanatic about not purchasing software - particularly if it is nice. I think the success of Linux will depend on people being able to support themselves by developing it, and developing applications for it. I've never tried Hancom, simply because once I tried StarOffice (started w/5.0 and have used them all up to my present 6.0), I didn't look any further. Even 5.x was able to flawlessly open and edit a 55 page Excel budget document, and then when necessary (for less *enlightened* workers) convert *back* to Excel format for sharing purposes. Word docs have been no problem at all and most (though some have been problematic) PowerPoint presentations have worked also!! I think you'll be impressed. If you have a dial-up connection, you may wish to *buy* the disc from Sun (only a few dollars, much lass than the $49 hancom wants), or if you use broadband the download is absolutely free, though you must register (also totally free). Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Actually, we wrote to Hancom and tried to get a demo for the 8.1 release, but they weren't yet ready. I will take a look in the next week or so. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Cannot send email to list..?
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Merry Christmas to all, especially Civileme, Sridhar, Ed, Tom and all of you helpful people ! Who can help Mick (a fellow-newbie in need) ? - He had a hard time setting up his new linux-mandrake-system, and I've tried to help him to the best of my ability. After some hazzles he succeeded to get his linux-box up and running, but now he somehow can't post to this list ??? - I wrote to Mick as follows : Well Mick, I'm not sure, but it seems that it's the Mandrake-server that refuses to accept your mail ? Anyway, I can see that you are using some mailer called Microsoft Outlook Express. As far as I know, that mailer is better known as a virus propagator and trojan horse dispenser, so maybe the folks at Mandrake have taken their precautions - eh ? Furthermore, I can see that your mail is in html-format. - Most people on our list prefer to receive mail in plain text - not that I think it matters much ? Mick, I'm in no way a mail-guru, so the right place to ask your question is the list. However, it seems that you are unable to do that right now ! - Accordingly I'll put it there for you. Help Mick anyone ??? Mick wrote: Hello Kaj, Have you ever come across this before. As of a day or two ago, I can no longer post to the newbie list on Mandrake. My emails are constantly being returned as errors. I called my ISP and asked them to look into the matter. I can recieve email from the list, so I am still subscribed to it. I am including the latest error message from my ISP if it'll help. I can also send and recieve email from everyone else in my address book, but not 'to' the 'Newbie' list! I even tried using my wifes machine to post to the list, still nothing. Even more annoying, is the fact that since I have tried to setup a network and Connection Sharing configuration in 'Control Center' and failed, I can no longer recieve email or reach a web address using my Linux box! I don't suppose there is an undo button?? I have tried to quit the network connection between my box and the wifes computer, but this has not helped. It seems there are settings set on my Linux box that is stopping it from using an ordinary Internet connection using it's own modem. If you can advise, please send it my way, if not hey here goes another install! Merry Christmas. Mick Here's the error message: Sorry, your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] could not be delivered. The specific error is: The 'To' address [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rejected by the remote server. This is permanent error, and the message will not be retried any further. === Original Message Follows === Received: from therese (206.135.73.24) by MAIL (MailMax 4. 8. 2. 0) with ESMTP id 67640780 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:59:24 -0800 PST Message-ID: 002c01c18c40$896863c0$fd00a8c0@therese From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:02:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Just a test. Mick --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META content=3Dtext/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type META content=3DMSHTML 5.00.2614.3500 name=3DGENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ff DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Hi,/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Just a test./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Mick/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220-- === End Original Message === *** This message was automatically generated by the MailMAX Er For network connection sharing, 1. eth0 should be your local network connection 2. On connected computers, dhcp protocol should be set Get an address automatically Under Network NeighborhoodTCP/IPPropertiesIP Address 3. On connected computers the gateway _must_ be set to 192.168.0.1 4. eth1 should be connnected to the internet by whatever means you use as standard unless you use a modem. Default gateway device should be eth1 or ppp0 as appropriate. Now nexbie mail might be rejected if the subscriber's email is not correct, but usually with a confirmation message allowing non-subscribers to post anyway. Your rejection is quite odd. While we have had other users request information on rejecting Outlook from their servers entirely because the viruses like SirCam are eating up too much space and bandwidth, I don't think we have implemented our own advice on our servers. Civileme QA Team Want to buy your Pack or
