Re: [newbie] kde 3.4 install
frengoGorgia wrote: Il dom, 2005-04-10 alle 20:33, john ha scritto: Hello Installed kde 3.4 and applications disappeared on menus. I installed through mandrake control center and everything installed ok per message. I ran update-menus -v and the following message came up. -- ** (process:7390): CRITICAL **: file eggdesktopentries.c: line 2223 (egg_desktop_entries_add_group): assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed --- I was upgrading from 3.2 on MD10.1 desktop. Is there a fix for this or should I reinstall earlier version? Thanks in advance for help. probably /etc/menu/menudrakeentry was breaked by the upgrade post that file in list so we could read it. maybe this help. -- Regards, Francesco Hello Francesco I went through a series of problems and ended up starting x from the command line. Everything seems to be working ok from there. It doesn't start with mandrake display manager and switches to konsole login with kdm. Googling showed that it had to do with the different login managers. Will use as is. Thanks for responding. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] kde 3.4 install
Hello Installed kde 3.4 and applications disappeared on menus. I installed through mandrake control center and everything installed ok per message. I ran update-menus -v and the following message came up. -- ** (process:7390): CRITICAL **: file eggdesktopentries.c: line 2223 (egg_desktop_entries_add_group): assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed --- I was upgrading from 3.2 on MD10.1 desktop. Is there a fix for this or should I reinstall earlier version? Thanks in advance for help. -- John Bryant Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kde 3.4 install
Il dom, 2005-04-10 alle 20:33, john ha scritto: Hello Installed kde 3.4 and applications disappeared on menus. I installed through mandrake control center and everything installed ok per message. I ran update-menus -v and the following message came up. -- ** (process:7390): CRITICAL **: file eggdesktopentries.c: line 2223 (egg_desktop_entries_add_group): assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed --- I was upgrading from 3.2 on MD10.1 desktop. Is there a fix for this or should I reinstall earlier version? Thanks in advance for help. probably /etc/menu/menudrakeentry was breaked by the upgrade post that file in list so we could read it. maybe this help. -- Regards, Francesco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KDE 3.4 and 10.2
Well, did they finally put the new KDE in there Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KDE /K3B problem
Hello all I have Mandrake 10.1 on 2.6.8.1-12mdk win4Lin kernel installed (dual boot with Win) and mostly use KDE. since a recent re-install I had been using the graphical login page, and I noted that it would not retain the faces settings. Trying to run k3b I would end up with a zombie process stalled at finding CD burner. I have upgraded KDE to 3.3, and when I first started, could open MCC. Then I tried to run k3b setup with : [EMAIL PROTECTED] russellb]# ps ax |grep k3b 7606 ?Ds 0:01 kcmshell k3bsetup2 Running mcc from an su console gives a splash screen and another defunct program [EMAIL PROTECTED] russellb]# ps ax |grep drak 9044 pts/3D 0:01 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/drakconf.real I will have to reboot to kill the zombies, but can anyone advise me how to enable k3b, and minimise the risk of recurrences? Thanks Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE /K3B problem
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:16, Russell Butler wrote: Hello all I have Mandrake 10.1 on 2.6.8.1-12mdk win4Lin kernel installed (dual boot with Win) and mostly use KDE. since a recent re-install I had been using the graphical login page, and I noted that it would not retain the faces settings. Mandrake Control Centre SystemDisplay Manager Select the 'KDM' display Manager derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE /K3B problem
On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 11:33, Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:16, Russell Butler wrote: Hello all I have Mandrake 10.1 on 2.6.8.1-12mdk win4Lin kernel installed (dual boot with Win) and mostly use KDE. since a recent re-install I had been using the graphical login page, and I noted that it would not retain the faces settings. Mandrake Control Centre SystemDisplay Manager Select the 'KDM' display Manager Also, IIRC the 'faces' settings were not maintained for me until I adjusted them in kcontrol System User Accounts Probably a combination of the two are needed. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpO0LlVG4KMy.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] KDE - KOrganizer - Free/Busy
Hi All Does anyone have any idea of how to set up KOrganizer Free/Busy Where the setup ask for Server Information what server should be entered? Same for User Name and Password. Is the following correct? Server Information: mail.ISP.net User Name: Login Name to e-mail Password: email Password Thanks Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE - KOrganizer - Free/Busy
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 13:26, SOTL wrote: Hi All Does anyone have any idea of how to set up KOrganizer Free/Busy Where the setup ask for Server Information what server should be entered? Same for User Name and Password. Is the following correct? Server Information: mail.ISP.net User Name: Login Name to e-mail Password: email Password I don't think it is. As far as I know it only works if you have groupware set up. The kdepim-user list ([EMAIL PROTECTED], joined from the kde website) would be able to help. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgp9thQwLpfYq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4 - successful install - yes!
On Sunday 20 March 2005 06:10, Mr. Geek wrote: Guys, you're beating yourselves up for nothing on this. After you add Thac's RPM's to urpmi, take a moment to install the ICE desktop or some other one. Chances are that you'll have at least 2 desktop environments installed anyway. Once you're all done, log out of this desktop environment and log back into KDE and enjoy. Yup! I managed to clear up the hiccups. Apparently Kmail 1.8 now puts the mail folder in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail After moving the old mail folder from ~/.Mail, now, I have my all my old emails and folder again :) Yay! Kmail 1.8 is really something. I like it very much. Seems more slim but yet featurefull. One thing I like is that we now can see the spam meter in the form of graphics coloured from green to red :) fantastic. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 19:12:38 up 3:11, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4 - successful install - yes!
Remark ___ although my system is very old and out-dated, I mention this because of Mandrakes recent new relationship with Brazilian 'Connectiva' . . . several times, in the past, i have updated my KDE using Connectiva's APT package management tool ~ First Class :)) best rgds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4 - successful install - yes!
On Sunday 20 March 2005 15:24, riccardo wrote: Remark ___ although my system is very old and out-dated, I mention this because of Mandrakes recent new relationship with Brazilian 'Connectiva' . . . several times, in the past, i have updated my KDE using Connectiva's APT package management tool ~ First Class :)) best rgds Do you mean I can use Conectiva's APT to update my (Mandrake) distro? Or is your distro Conectiva's? If you've used apt to update Mandrake, could you please be more specific? I find apt commands much simpler (as compared to urpmi). Thanks! -- Pablo Ortúzar Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Saturday 19 March 2005 10:32 am, Miark wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:37:00 -0600, Leaf wrote: KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Another good place for non-mandrake club members is the dutch users group MCNL. The last time I used Thac's RPMs for KDE, it was a nightmare, as it was for at least a few other people. Any reason to expect similar problems with 3.4 RPMs? Miark I'm going to do the upgrade.. wish me luck :) -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 19:17:57 up 4:15, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Saturday 19 March 2005 10:32 am, Miark wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:37:00 -0600, Leaf wrote: KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Another good place for non-mandrake club members is the dutch users group MCNL. The last time I used Thac's RPMs for KDE, it was a nightmare, as it was for at least a few other people. Any reason to expect similar problems with 3.4 RPMs? Miark Ugh.. can i use urpmi, or should i do it manually? Because i've got this error: urpmi.addmedia thacs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS with list added medium thacs examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf-nonfree.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf-free.cz] retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of thacs... http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/list found probed hdlist (or synthesis) as list ...retrieving done examining hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.thacs.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.thacs.cz] unable to parse hdlist file of thacs examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.thacs.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium thacs unable to update medium thacs -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 19:20:09 up 4:18, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
Fajar Priyanto wrote: I'm going to do the upgrade.. wish me luck :) Luck! -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
I do not know what is wrong, but after having added Thac as a media, when I run urpmi --auto-select nothing happens. Does the same happen with you? Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Saturday 19 March 2005 14:07, Paul Smith wrote: I do not know what is wrong, but after having added Thac as a media, when I run urpmi --auto-select nothing happens. Does the same happen with you? Paul No. 204 packages were going to be installed. Due to missed dependencies, none was. BTW, did you do a previous urpmi.update? -- Pablo Ortúzar Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:18:17 +0700, Fajar wrote: The last time I used Thac's RPMs for KDE, it was a nightmare, as it was for at least a few other people. Any reason to expect similar problems with 3.4 RPMs? I'm going to do the upgrade.. wish me luck :) You bet! Were you one those who had problems with his 3.3 RPMs? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:44:36 +0100, Pablo Ortuzar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know what is wrong, but after having added Thac as a media, when I run urpmi --auto-select nothing happens. Does the same happen with you? No. 204 packages were going to be installed. Due to missed dependencies, none was. BTW, did you do a previous urpmi.update? Thanks, Pablo. Yes, I did a previous urpmi.update. Did it take a long while to complete your urpmi --auto-select ? Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KDE unable to start
On my other PC I get teh message:- error trying to start KDE No write access to '/home/carlton/.ICEauthority' KDE is unable to start. On further investigation, the file appears to be owned by root how do I change ownership back to carlton? Thanks In Advance Carlton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE unable to start
On Saturday 19 Mar 2005 18:44, Carlton Matthew wrote: On my other PC I get teh message:- error trying to start KDE No write access to '/home/carlton/.ICEauthority' KDE is unable to start. On further investigation, the file appears to be owned by root how do I change ownership back to carlton? Thanks In Advance Carlton You don't say how you did your 'further investigation' but if it involved becoming root, there's your answer. Root can change it to anyone you like. (If it didn't involve root, then open a console, su and give the root password, then type chown carlton /home/carlton/.ICEauthority That should do it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpXHujSapAvS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Saturday 19 March 2005 18:05, Paul Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:44:36 +0100, Pablo Ortuzar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know what is wrong, but after having added Thac as a media, when I run urpmi --auto-select nothing happens. Does the same happen with you? No. 204 packages were going to be installed. Due to missed dependencies, none was. BTW, did you do a previous urpmi.update? Thanks, Pablo. Yes, I did a previous urpmi.update. Did it take a long while to complete your urpmi --auto-select ? Paul No, it didn't. But I had to reinstall: some packages DID install. Couldn't boot. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
Guys, you're beating yourselves up for nothing on this. After you add Thac's RPM's to urpmi, take a moment to install the ICE desktop or some other one. Chances are that you'll have at least 2 desktop environments installed anyway. Log out of KDE, and log back in as root or a normal user, but log into the alternate desktop, no matter what it is. Find Mandrake Control Center, open it and switch your package selection to the third button marked All Packages, By Group. Change that so it reads All Packages, By Medium Repository, and expand the one marked as thac's.rpms. Now have a look at the rpms which have version numbers of 3.4.0-1.mdk10.1.thac. Start with the basics like the i18n package for your preferred language and kdebase or kde-common. Mandrake will automatically select any dependancies. Make sure you install any new packages which may be in Thac's repository which refer to 'mdkkdm', 'mandrake_desk', 'mandrakegalaxy', 'mandrakelinux-create-kde-mdk-menu', 'mandrakelinux-kde-config-file', etc. You get the idea. Keep installing KDE 3.4 in small groups of packages - like all the kdepim packages, or whichever you need. In the process of doing this update, Mandrake will delete (uninstall) any unneeded KDE 3.2 or 3.3 packages. Once you have everything you want or need, you're done. If you've already downloaded the rpms from Thac's site, copy them into /var/cache/urpmi/rpms and MCC will use them instead of downloading fresh copies, saving you some time. Once you're all done, log out of this desktop environment and log back into KDE and enjoy. -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Well you could try a new (kde)install after removing everything that's associated...but that'll be a fine mess, prolly. It's already a mess and it's worth a try, I think. My second choice is to upgrade my whole mandrake distribution from 10.0 to 10.2 beta 3. No prob...too bad this is happening...and prolly quite maddening too, for you. This upgrade stuff is what tore me away from kde to xfce, almost like windows isn't it?:( Yeah, among other things as well :-( Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Friday 18 March 2005 20:42, Michel Leunen wrote: It's already a mess and it's worth a try, I think. My second choice is to upgrade my whole mandrake distribution from 10.0 to 10.2 beta 3. Don't simply upgrade from 10.0 to 10.2...that'll be an even finer mess. Better to do a fresh install. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KDE 3.4
Hello, KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? -- Pablo Ortúzar Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto: Hello, KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote: Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto: Hello, KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Another good place for non-mandrake club members is the dutch users group MCNL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
Leaf wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote: Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto: Hello, KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Yeah, and KDE 3.4 not only looks good but runs great on my laptop. One suggestion folks. Make sure you have a different desktop system installed (ICE, BlackBox, etc.) and log into that desktop before updating KDE. In other words, either boot into runlevel 3 or a different Desktop Environment before installing KDE 3.4, since it will replace your existing KDE in the process. If you remain in KDE whilst updating it, you're asking for trouble. -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Mandrake-Linux 10.2Beta3, 2.6.10-3M-M Kernel, and KDE 3.4. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:55:49 -0500, Mr. Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leaf wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote: Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto: Hello, KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Yeah, and KDE 3.4 not only looks good but runs great on my laptop. One suggestion folks. Make sure you have a different desktop system installed (ICE, BlackBox, etc.) and log into that desktop before updating KDE. In other words, either boot into runlevel 3 or a different Desktop Environment before installing KDE 3.4, since it will replace your existing KDE in the process. If you remain in KDE whilst updating it, you're asking for trouble. And which packages should one start installing? Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
Il sab, 2005-03-19 alle 00:18, Paul Smith ha scritto: Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Yeah, and KDE 3.4 not only looks good but runs great on my laptop. One suggestion folks. Make sure you have a different desktop system installed (ICE, BlackBox, etc.) and log into that desktop before updating KDE. In other words, either boot into runlevel 3 or a different Desktop Environment before installing KDE 3.4, since it will replace your existing KDE in the process. If you remain in KDE whilst updating it, you're asking for trouble. And which packages should one start installing? Paul you could start from the kdelibs* and libkde* packagees : urpmi kdelibs-common-3.4 urpmi libkdebase4-3.4 and so on urpmi kdebase-3.4 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Friday 18 March 2005 05:37 pm, Leaf wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote: Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto: Hello, KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Another good place for non-mandrake club members is the dutch users group MCNL. Says on Thacs page, Thac's RPMs for Mandrake Updated 2004-11-11 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Friday 18 March 2005 18:09, Julie Sloan wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 05:37 pm, Leaf wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote: Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto: Hello, KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Another good place for non-mandrake club members is the dutch users group MCNL. Says on Thacs page, Thac's RPMs for Mandrake Updated 2004-11-11 Did you scroll down the page to the subdirectories? KDE 3.4 has it's own subdirectory, try there? :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
I have just installed KDE 3.4. The login panel has changed afterwards. How can I get the previous one? Thanks in advance, Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:12:31 +, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just installed KDE 3.4. The login panel has changed afterwards. How can I get the previous one? I found the solution meanwhile: urpmi mdkkdm Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Friday 18 March 2005 07:30 pm, Leaf wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 18:09, Julie Sloan wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 05:37 pm, Leaf wrote: On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote: Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto: Hello, KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w =2 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Another good place for non-mandrake club members is the dutch users group MCNL. Says on Thacs page, Thac's RPMs for Mandrake Updated 2004-11-11 Did you scroll down the page to the subdirectories? KDE 3.4 has it's own subdirectory, try there? :-) Okay, thanks. :) -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:37:00 -0600, Leaf wrote: KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them? Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your urpmi resources as well. Another good place for non-mandrake club members is the dutch users group MCNL. The last time I used Thac's RPMs for KDE, it was a nightmare, as it was for at least a few other people. Any reason to expect similar problems with 3.4 RPMs? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: apparently your problem isn't solved yet... No. I've tried to do another update hoping it will repair kde but with no luck. I think I'll have to reinstall it, I'm afraid. so let's take a few tests: Ok, let's go! After booting up into xfce4, open a terminal and try to start konqueror from there.copy (select with left mouse button and paste with middle button) the error messages and mail 'em to us. [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent On top of that start a new session by doing CTRL, ALT, F2 simultaneously and then logging as you (or any other user you like) at the prompt. Then at the same prompt: startx -- :1 without the quotes and watch the space between -- and :1. That should open up a second X(kde)session on CTRL,ALT,F8check CTRL,ALT,F7 to go back to check your running xfce4 session if you care;) And go back to the original CTRL,ALT,F2 to see the error messages it produces in respect to kde. Here is what appears and there is no error message it seems: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ startx -- :1 Release Date: 18 December 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdk i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux LinuxPC 2.6.3-7mdk #1 Wed Mar 17 15:56:42 CET 2004 i686 Build Date: 05 November 2004 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.1.log, Time: Thu Mar 17 21:21:41 2005 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf Using vt 8 (II) Initializing extension GL SetClientVersion: 0 8 That's all. Nothing more except some newlines. It doesn't tell me much, quite cryptic for me. Thanks for your help. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Thursday 17 March 2005 21:28, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: apparently your problem isn't solved yet... No. I've tried to do another update hoping it will repair kde but with no luck. I think I'll have to reinstall it, I'm afraid. Well you could try a new (kde)install after removing everything that's associated...but that'll be a fine mess, prolly. I gathered that KDE3.4 was out today and could be installed in the /home directory (or maybe /opt) so as not to interfere with previous versions. Maybe worth a look, eh? so let's take a few tests: Ok, let's go! After booting up into xfce4, open a terminal and try to start konqueror from there.copy (select with left mouse button and paste with middle button) the error messages and mail 'em to us. [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent Frankly, I'm not in the clear what this means other than the obvious undefined event:( There's a version incompatibility somewhere there, prolly. On top of that start a new session by doing CTRL, ALT, F2 simultaneously and then logging as you (or any other user you like) at the prompt. Then at the same prompt: startx -- :1 without the quotes and watch the space between -- and :1. That should open up a second X(kde)session on CTRL,ALT,F8check CTRL,ALT,F7 to go back to check your running xfce4 session if you care;) And go back to the original CTRL,ALT,F2 to see the error messages it produces in respect to kde. Here is what appears and there is no error message it seems: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ startx -- :1 Release Date: 18 December 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdk i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux LinuxPC 2.6.3-7mdk #1 Wed Mar 17 15:56:42 CET 2004 i686 Build Date: 05 November 2004 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.1.log, Time: Thu Mar 17 21:21:41 2005 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf Using vt 8 (II) Initializing extension GL SetClientVersion: 0 8 Looks OK to me i.e. normal start-up procedure.and I gather KDE is still botching up on F8. That's all. Nothing more except some newlines. It doesn't tell me much, quite cryptic for me. Thanks for your help. No prob...too bad this is happening...and prolly quite maddening too, for you. This upgrade stuff is what tore me away from kde to xfce, almost like windows isn't it?:( -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 22:52, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). I haven't considered it until this last week or two, because it wasn't worth risking problems just for eye-candy. It's only the real problems I'm having with kmail imap that have made me consider it. The developers have always said that imap support was experimental in 1.7.1/3.2.3, so I'm not complaining, but since there are fixes for many of the problems in the next version it's time to consider moving on. There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted out most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more. And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect. As a pop client everything except gpg-agent was running sweetly. This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with mdk10.1, but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers. It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though) I haven't moved win4lin to this box yet anyway, so that's not a problem. sigh I seem to spend 6 months ironing out problems on a new install, only to have to do it all over again because I need maybe just one thing that the existing install can't give me. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpxnx3FzxnCF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 11:44, Anne Wilson wrote: I haven't moved win4lin to this box yet anyway, so that's not a problem. sigh I seem to spend 6 months ironing out problems on a new install, only to have to do it all over again because I need maybe just one thing that the existing install can't give me. My personal trick on win4lin: Install their kernel (when it's available), on the new install and copy (I keep them backed up on the HD as well on CD) /var/win4lin and /opt/win4lin to resp. /var and /opt. If you kept your /home/ann/win directory in order it'll run as beforeno serial number hassle et all. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). I'm not 100% sure that my problem is a consequence of an upgrade but I think i'll follow your advice in the future. Thanks, Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote: However, while the installation was OK (not a single error), when I started the system up, when loading the Mandrake GUI selector (I actually don't know its name, hope I made myself clear: that is, where you should enter the username and password) the system didn't react. It wasn't frozen because when I entered Ctl+Alt+Backspace, the X system stopped alright. Yes, this is exactly the same bahavior as the one I have with may computer. In the first place, I though it had something to do with my hardware. However, when I started up the system WITHOUT authomatic X window startup (that is, only the terminal), and when I write (after the login) # startx the X Window (with KDE) started without problems. This doesn't work for me, though. I mean kde doesn't start but no problem with gnome or xfce. Hence, I suspected that the problem was indeed the GUI Selector. Then, in the configuration panel, I changed the default manager from Mandrake's own to KDE's or GNOME and now everything works fine. I have tried it too but to no avail. Thanks for your help. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 20:48, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). I'm not 100% sure that my problem is a consequence of an upgrade but I think i'll follow your advice in the future. Thanks, Michel apparently your problem isn't solved yet...so let's take a few tests: After booting up into xfce4, open a terminal and try to start konqueror from there.copy (select with left mouse button and paste with middle button) the error messages and mail 'em to us. On top of that start a new session by doing CTRL, ALT, F2 simultaneously and then logging as you (or any other user you like) at the prompt. Then at the same prompt: startx -- :1 without the quotes and watch the space between -- and :1. That should open up a second X(kde)session on CTRL,ALT,F8check CTRL,ALT,F7 to go back to check your running xfce4 session if you care;) And go back to the original CTRL,ALT,F2 to see the error messages it produces in respect to kde. If you want to see how it should work ergo a working Xsession kill the running/frozen session with CTRL,ALT,backspace and enter startxfce4 -- :1 at the prompt. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake). Nothing that I can launch. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde that's for sure. You're right, everything else seems to work just fine. I can log in Gnome desktop, XFCE4 without any problem. Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check what kind of error messages come drifting by I can launch some of the KDE config program like userdrake but konqueror, for instance, returns with an error message and never shows up. The error message is: $ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent Have no idea what it means. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: It does seem rather difficult to do anything about kde if you can't even get in. He should be able to try renaming .kde, but that would only work if the problem was after logging in, and as I understand it he can't even get so far. But - if he can't, how did he get XFCE working, I wonder? I have tried deleteing the ~/.kde to no avail. It doesn't seems to be a settings problem but rather a library problem. Some library corrupted or missing. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:20, Michel Leunen wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake). Nothing that I can launch. Michel Michel, Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo when you say that about /usr/share/bla/bla, are you trying to find clickable executables like in windows? Executables are found in bin/ and sbin/ directories in linux but very few will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command! Did you try adding a new user (userdrake on the commandline) or deleting the kde config (.rc files) files Kaj and I suggested? Like your site BTWvery clean and slick:) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:26, Michel Leunen wrote: $ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent Have no idea what it means. Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo when you say that about /usr/share/bla/bla, are you trying to find clickable executables like in windows? I'm a new Linux user but not completely dumb, I hope :-) Executables are found in bin/ and sbin/ directories in linux but very few will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command! I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/ and it's a directory. The unsaid question was then: Anne, what do you mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it? Did you try adding a new user (userdrake on the commandline) or deleting the kde config (.rc files) files Kaj and I suggested? Yes, but to no avail. Like your site BTWvery clean and slick:) Thanks. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my last upgrade. In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the solution? Retry an update? Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 08:12 pm, Michel Leunen wrote:
mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it?
i do not know ~ but, taking a wild guess
. . . maybe, Mandrake's tool for setting up X-windows { XFree86 or
X-Org } [ my Linux presently is SuSE ] ?
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:12, Michel Leunen wrote: I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/ and it's a directory. Sorry - I made a mistake on the capitalisation. [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake So there it is. It looks as though you have established that it is a kde problem, not a display one, as I thought from your first message, so it probably won't help here, but for future reference, it is one of Mandrake's 'wizards' and it deals with display settings. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpXf7jWl28Uq.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:19, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my last upgrade. In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the solution? Retry an update? I don't know if you are aware of this, but when you update a package, if it is running it does not appear to be affected. It is not until you re-start it that the new package kicks in. In the case of kde it would be logging in afresh that would do that. Does that explain it? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpuXTudMsZ98.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake Thanks Anne, that's definitely not the same as what i got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ slocate xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake/xfdrake-test-card.png No executable in my system. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:49, Michel Leunen wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake Thanks Anne, that's definitely not the same as what i got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ slocate xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake/xfdrake-test-card.png No executable in my system. Michael, capitalisation is very important. Try it again with slocate XFdrake If you still don't find it, you may not have all the wizards installed. There's an rpm caller drakwiz (or is it wiz-drak?) that installs quite a few of them. Run Software Installer and search for 'drak' - you should recognise the one I mean. And btw, to run XFdrake you need to be in a root console. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpw9vqvTswbN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: I don't know if you are aware of this, but when you update a package, if it is running it does not appear to be affected. It is not until you re-start it that the new package kicks in. Yeah, I learned that the hard way :-) In the case of kde it would be logging in afresh that would do that. Does that explain it? It makes sense, especially since I mainly use xfce and I don't remember if I logged in kde since the last update. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: Michael, capitalisation is very important. Try it again with slocate XFdrake Oops, sorry. Hey H.J.Bathoorn, maybe I'm really dumb after all :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake Sorry, Anne and thanks for your help. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:12, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo when you say that about /usr/share/bla/bla, are you trying to find clickable executables like in windows? I'm a new Linux user but not completely dumb, I hope :-) You don't give the impression, nor does your site...on the contrary. It's just that some very proficiant windows-users sometimes get terribly lost in their first steps. especially when it comes to the CoMmandLine (CML) which we take almost for granted after a while:) Executables are found in bin/ and sbin/ directories in linux but very few will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command! I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/ and it's a directory. The unsaid question was then: Anne, what do you mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it? It's XFdrake (mind the capitals) .enter XFd on the commandline (as su/root) and hit TAB for autocompletion. The TAB is your best friend (better 'n google) on the CML. XFdrake is a wizard for configuring X and the desktop BTW.You don't need it here. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:19, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my last upgrade. In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the solution? Retry an update? Michel I don't know.I like xfce4 but it sucks when apps like konq don't start when asked..agreed. I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgplh44W0zD5N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Have you tried to launch kde from the command line ? If not, try : startx kde -- :1 as root, in a text shell and you will know if the problem is in your configuration or kde itself. On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:20:29 +0100, Michel Leunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake). Nothing that I can launch. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 23:17, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. Anne Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted out most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more. And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect. This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with mdk10.1, but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers. It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Hello all. Just a few thoughts. I bought my Mandrake copy directly from France. No downloads, no screwed CDs, everything should have been perfect. However, while the installation was OK (not a single error), when I started the system up, when loading the Mandrake GUI selector (I actually don't know its name, hope I made myself clear: that is, where you should enter the username and password) the system didn't react. It wasn't frozen because when I entered Ctl+Alt+Backspace, the X system stopped alright. In the first place, I though it had something to do with my hardware. However, when I started up the system WITHOUT authomatic X window startup (that is, only the terminal), and when I write (after the login) # startx the X Window (with KDE) started without problems. Hence, I suspected that the problem was indeed the GUI Selector. Then, in the configuration panel, I changed the default manager from Mandrake's own to KDE's or GNOME and now everything works fine. Maybe you can try something like these, although I don't know how to do it from command line. Greetings, Fernando Gómez. == Registered Linux User 381647. Usuario Registrado de Linux 381647 http://counter.li.org - Original Message - From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared On Tuesday 15 March 2005 23:17, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. Anne Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted out most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more. And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect. This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with mdk10.1, but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers. It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with another window manager. How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall once again. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Need a GMail invitation? Send me an email. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 14:01, Michel Leunen wrote: Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with another window manager. How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall once again. Michel Please supply info on usual components. Equipment make video card et. Linux Distribution and version et. Did you download KDE and install or did you install from distribution? Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 20:01, Michel Leunen wrote: Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with another window manager. How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall once again. Michel The first thing I'd do is create another user and log into KDE as that new user. If the problems don't show up it's a faulty setting in your /home/michel/.kde/ directory.just delete it and check in as you used to. You will lose existing kde settings like those of kmail as well as bookmarks in konqueror etc etc. So if that is a major problem, say so and we'll fine tune what has to be changed/deleted. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
SOTL wrote: Please supply info on usual components. Equipment make video card et. Linux Distribution and version et. Mandrake 10.0 updated regularly. I don't think the card installed matter. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:18:24 +0100, Michel Leunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SOTL wrote: Please supply info on usual components. Equipment make video card et. Linux Distribution and version et. Mandrake 10.0 updated regularly. I don't think the card installed matter. You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the command line, did you try startx? I lost KDE once and I think that's what I did to get it back although I admit, I'm not sure. Eric -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
eric jackson wrote: You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the command line, did you try startx? No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually, the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar message in /var/log/... either. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 22:11, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 14 Mar 2005 20:39, Michel Leunen wrote: eric jackson wrote: You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the command line, did you try startx? No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually, the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar message in /var/log/... either. Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Anne X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde that's for sure. Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check what kind of error messages come drifting by.but I'd recomend that for a later stage. Prolly some kind of setting that got messed up when logging out in a previous session. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 21:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde that's for sure. I hadn't realised about XFCE when I sent it, but you're right, of course. Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check what kind of error messages come drifting by.but I'd recomend that for a later stage. Prolly some kind of setting that got messed up when logging out in a previous session. It does seem rather difficult to do anything about kde if you can't even get in. He should be able to try renaming .kde, but that would only work if the problem was after logging in, and as I understand it he can't even get so far. But - if he can't, how did he get XFCE working, I wonder? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpxzHKsdm60Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 11:01 am, Michel Leunen wrote: | Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. | Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log | in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop | and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with | another window manager. | How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall | once again. | | Michel Can you log into kde as a different user? Maybe create one and see. If so, rename your /home/~/.kde to .OLDkde. Logout and then back into KDE. That will probably fix it. Beware, you may want to backup your Mail directory and your kaddressbook, because you may lose them in the process. Your desktop settings will also return to the default. The bright side is, it is a relatively quick fix. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 05:41, Erylon Hines wrote: On Monday 14 March 2005 11:01 am, Michel Leunen wrote: | Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. | Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log | in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop | and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with | another window manager. | How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall | once again. | | Michel Can you log into kde as a different user? Maybe create one and see. If so, rename your /home/~/.kde to .OLDkde. Logout and then back into KDE. That will probably fix it. Beware, you may want to backup your Mail directory and your kaddressbook, because you may lose them in the process. Your desktop settings will also return to the default. The bright side is, it is a relatively quick fix. Renaming is always a good option. You can copy your addressbook over to the new directory. If you use kmail it isn't stored under .kde but under .Mail, so you don't lose that either. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpI2L87rbmm4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 20:39, Michel Leunen wrote: eric jackson wrote: You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the command line, did you try startx? No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually, the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar message in /var/log/... either. Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgp9kNF5Tv3Wm.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] KDE upgrade
Some weeks ago, there was a long thread on problems with upgrading KDE using the Thac packages. Since then, I have not seen anything about it. Have the problems been sorted, and can we now upgrade KDE? Many thanks for any information. Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KDE disaster
Hi all After my previous effort (see urpme logging 9 Jan) I have dug myself into an ever deeper hole. Being unable to work out what I needed, and having a set of MK 10.1 discs, I decided to upgrade from 10 to 10.1, including installing KDE 3.3. Now I am unable to get beyond a grey screen (no icons or tray) in KDE, but ICEWM will run - sort of. I can launch some programs from terminals including Mozilla, but not firefox or thunderbird which give Gdk-CRITICAL ***: gdk_window_set_title:assertion 'title !=NULL' failed. I presume I have some aspects of Gdk missing, but much googling has failed to show how to find/restore the missing bits. Anyone able to point me in a somewhat helpful direction please? Thanks for any help Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] kde upgrade
hello I am trying to upgrade kde3.3.0 to 3.3.2 on md 10.1 system. When preparing package installation the following message comes up: file /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/libpixmap.so from install of libgtk+2.0_0-2.5.6-0.2mdk10.1thac conflicts with file package gtk-engines2-2.2.0-6mdk. Any suggestions on how to deal with this would be appreciated. Thanks John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kde/urpmi mess
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 12 January 2005 12:20 am, SnapafunFrank wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:44, Brett Lyon wrote: After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from anywhere): [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great for months. When I trace back all the packages that ultimately provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related (only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? /var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing significant. system info: MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB KDE 3.2.3 I tried: libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac and: k3b-0.11.16-3mdk libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a proficient beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while staying updated? Thanks for any tips, brett Strange. I just upgraded 161 MB worth of KDE and xscreensaver coming up today, but my k3b works OK. I noticed your command : urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select ^ a space is needed here urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select and this semicolon shouldn't be there. Instead it is : urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select The difference between using ';' or '' is that the double ampersand says to the system, 'run this next command only if the previous one is successful.' Use of ';' doesn't use this precaution. Obviously '' should normally be preferred when the subsequent command(s) relies on the prior one(s). My suggestion : try again if your update is older than one day. You might be able to get all the new stuff as of today. HTH Kaj Haulrich. Not sure, but it sounds like you tried to update with kde running. I tried this once and ended up reinstalling from scratch. Did the update one step at a time in the order required for kde with xserver closed down and have had no problems since. As I said - not sure if this is your problem or not. I run cooker. I update KDE almost daily, sometimes several times a day. Always with KDE and X running. In the past I've updated 'final' or 'community' or 'official' Mandrake versions, always from within KDE. I have no idea who or when this fallacious advice originated, ie, logout from KDE and/or X to update. It simply isn't so. This isn't Win$ux folks. What _is_ often needed is to update the system after the updates are installed, eg, I use an alias (as root), 'upall' alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb updatedb ldconfig -v update-menus -v -n' Then log out and back into KDE to fully realize the updates. It's a good idea to use Ctrl+Alt+BkSp while logged out to restart the X server. Specially if updates were to X. If you're setup to auto-login to KDE, this step will auto log you back into KDE. I do not doubt anything you have said here, and in fact I strive for the day when this is works fully for a dumb arse like me. It is just that when I update kde from rpm packages FULLY, I have yet to succeed with a successful installation without first logging out of X session. AGAIN. I do not doubt you, it may well be that within text console, I have to be more observant and careful, therefore suceed this way. Time will tell I hope because I am through with playing with Linux, I now need to keep this box stable and in production for myself. Oh... I forgot, what is Windows again?? -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kde/urpmi mess
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 12:20 am, SnapafunFrank wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:44, Brett Lyon wrote: After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from anywhere): [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great for months. When I trace back all the packages that ultimately provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related (only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? /var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing significant. system info: MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB KDE 3.2.3 I tried: libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac and: k3b-0.11.16-3mdk libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a proficient beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while staying updated? Thanks for any tips, brett Strange. I just upgraded 161 MB worth of KDE and xscreensaver coming up today, but my k3b works OK. I noticed your command : urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select ^ a space is needed here urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select and this semicolon shouldn't be there. Instead it is : urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select The difference between using ';' or '' is that the double ampersand says to the system, 'run this next command only if the previous one is successful.' Use of ';' doesn't use this precaution. Obviously '' should normally be preferred when the subsequent command(s) relies on the prior one(s). My suggestion : try again if your update is older than one day. You might be able to get all the new stuff as of today. HTH Kaj Haulrich. Not sure, but it sounds like you tried to update with kde running. I tried this once and ended up reinstalling from scratch. Did the update one step at a time in the order required for kde with xserver closed down and have had no problems since. As I said - not sure if this is your problem or not. I run cooker. I update KDE almost daily, sometimes several times a day. Always with KDE and X running. In the past I've updated 'final' or 'community' or 'official' Mandrake versions, always from within KDE. I have no idea who or when this fallacious advice originated, ie, logout from KDE and/or X to update. It simply isn't so. This isn't Win$ux folks. What _is_ often needed is to update the system after the updates are installed, eg, I use an alias (as root), 'upall' alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb updatedb ldconfig -v update-menus -v -n' Then log out and back into KDE to fully realize the updates. It's a good idea to use Ctrl+Alt+BkSp while logged out to restart the X server. Specially if updates were to X. If you're setup to auto-login to KDE, this step will auto log you back into KDE. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] kde/urpmi mess
After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from anywhere): [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great for months. When I trace back all the packages that ultimately provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related (only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? /var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing significant. system info: MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB KDE 3.2.3 I tried: libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac and: k3b-0.11.16-3mdk libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a proficient beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while staying updated? Thanks for any tips, brett = So anyway, check this out: http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/farscape/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kde/urpmi mess
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:44, Brett Lyon wrote: After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from anywhere): [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great for months. When I trace back all the packages that ultimately provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related (only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? /var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing significant. system info: MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB KDE 3.2.3 I tried: libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac and: k3b-0.11.16-3mdk libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a proficient beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while staying updated? Thanks for any tips, brett Strange. I just upgraded 161 MB worth of KDE and xscreensaver coming up today, but my k3b works OK. I noticed your command : urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select and this semicolon shouldn't be there. Instead it is : urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select My suggestion : try again if your update is older than one day. You might be able to get all the new stuff as of today. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kde/urpmi mess
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:44, Brett Lyon wrote: After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from anywhere): [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great for months. When I trace back all the packages that ultimately provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related (only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? /var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing significant. system info: MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB KDE 3.2.3 I tried: libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac and: k3b-0.11.16-3mdk libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a proficient beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while staying updated? Thanks for any tips, brett Strange. I just upgraded 161 MB worth of KDE and xscreensaver coming up today, but my k3b works OK. I noticed your command : urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select and this semicolon shouldn't be there. Instead it is : urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select My suggestion : try again if your update is older than one day. You might be able to get all the new stuff as of today. HTH Kaj Haulrich. Not sure, but it sounds like you tried to update with kde running. I tried this once and ended up reinstalling from scratch. Did the update one step at a time in the order required for kde with xserver closed down and have had no problems since. As I said - not sure if this is your problem or not. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE upgrade
In reply to my question on how to upgrade KDE with the packages on CD4, On Saturday 01 Jan 2005 19:21, linuxgirlie wrote: I installed KDE 3.3 bu doing the following: Copy all the KDE files into /tmp Login as root (for some reason there is a bug, may have been fixed now) that won't allow you to add media under other users. Go to Mdkc Control Centre (configure your computer) and add new media...eg the folder with kde in it. Once this is done go to install software Type in KDE Look for all the files with 3.3.* (* being your version) Add them, with a tick Click install. Sorry if this is to basic, just trying to put it in some sort of understandable order!! Jo Thanks very much for your help. I appreciate your prompt reply. No, it isn't too basic! Generally speaking, I think that an answer cannot be too basic. If a thing is explained in a simple way, more people reading it are likely to understand it and get help from it. Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE upgrade
On Saturday 01 Jan 2005 20:33, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 01 January 2005 10:25 am, Keith Powell wrote: In Mandrake 10.1 Official, I am trying to upgrade KDE to KDE3.3 which is on disk4 of the Download Edition. But my attempts have been a complete failure. So, PLEASE someone, in plain language, how does one install KDE3.3 from disk4? I don't need to keep KDE3.2. SNIP Here's how I did it (then). I put in CD4 and cd'd to the KDE3.3 directory. There I ran 'rpm -Fvh *.rpm' which returned some missing dependencies. Mostly libjack* IIRC. I already had online 10.1 sources set up, so I used those to get the deps. You might be able to use your CD sources. That upgraded KDE packages I already had from the many from the 10.1 CD install. (which is what 'rpm -Fvh' does, see 'man rpm'). After the upgrade was finished, I ran 'upall' as root; [ alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb updatedb ldconfig -v update-menus -v -n' ] Then logged out, back into KDE, using Ctrl+Alt+Bsp to re-start the X server while I was logged out. If you are setup to auto login to your desktop, this will bypass the login next step. For my experience and opinion: _Don't do it_! If you really want KDE3.3, setup cooker sources and use urpmi to update to KDE 3.3.2, (complete cooker 10.2) You'll be better off. KDE3.3.1 shipped with 10.1 is alpha an buggy quality, IME. Cooker is currently stable. Do it NOW while cooker is slow for the holidays Thanks for your reply and the help. I appreciate it. I now know two good ways of doing the upgrade, yours and Jo's. Thanks also for the warning about the buggy quality of the packages on the CD. I must think about what to do. Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KDE upgrade
After several frustrating hours of failure, I am afraid I will have to ask! In Mandrake 10.1 Official, I am trying to upgrade KDE to KDE3.3 which is on disk4 of the Download Edition. But my attempts have been a complete failure. I have tried everything that I can think of, using urpmi. None work. :( I also can't get Install Packages to find the new KDE on disk4. Tried all sorts of add media as well. So, PLEASE someone, in plain language, how does one install KDE3.3 from disk4? I don't need to keep KDE3.2. I can't find the answer in twiki or the archives. Very many thanks for any help. Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE upgrade
I installed KDE 3.3 bu doing the following: Copy all the KDE files into /tmp Login as root (for some reason there is a bug, may have been fixed now) that won't allow you to add media under other users. Go to Mdkc Control Centre (configure your computer) and add new media...eg the folder with kde in it. Once this is done go to install software Type in KDE Look for all the files with 3.3.* (* being your version) Add them, with a tick Click install. Sorry if this is to basic, just trying to put it in some sort of understandable order!! Jo On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 16:25:39 +, Keith Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After several frustrating hours of failure, I am afraid I will have to ask! In Mandrake 10.1 Official, I am trying to upgrade KDE to KDE3.3 which is on disk4 of the Download Edition. But my attempts have been a complete failure. I have tried everything that I can think of, using urpmi. None work. :( I also can't get Install Packages to find the new KDE on disk4. Tried all sorts of add media as well. So, PLEASE someone, in plain language, how does one install KDE3.3 from disk4? I don't need to keep KDE3.2. I can't find the answer in twiki or the archives. Very many thanks for any help. Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- Spread FireFox: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=user/registerr=32751 Get FireFox: http://www.getfirefox.com OpenOffice: http://www.openoffice.org Mandrake: http://www.mandrakelinux.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE upgrade
On Saturday 01 January 2005 10:25 am, Keith Powell wrote: After several frustrating hours of failure, I am afraid I will have to ask! In Mandrake 10.1 Official, I am trying to upgrade KDE to KDE3.3 which is on disk4 of the Download Edition. But my attempts have been a complete failure. I have tried everything that I can think of, using urpmi. None work. :( I also can't get Install Packages to find the new KDE on disk4. Tried all sorts of add media as well. So, PLEASE someone, in plain language, how does one install KDE3.3 from disk4? I don't need to keep KDE3.2. I can't find the answer in twiki or the archives. Very many thanks for any help. Keith Here's how I did it (then). I put in CD4 and cd'd to the KDE3.3 directory. There I ran 'rpm -Fvh *.rpm' which returned some missing dependencies. Mostly libjack* IIRC. I already had online 10.1 sources set up, so I used those to get the deps. You might be able to use your CD sources. That upgraded KDE packages I already had from the many from the 10.1 CD install. (which is what 'rpm -Fvh' does, see 'man rpm'). After the upgrade was finished, I ran 'upall' as root; [ alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb updatedb ldconfig -v update-menus -v -n' ] Then logged out, back into KDE, using Ctrl+Alt+Bsp to re-start the X server while I was logged out. If you are setup to auto login to your desktop, this will bypass the login next step. For my experience and opinion: _Don't do it_! If you really want KDE3.3, setup cooker sources and use urpmi to update to KDE 3.3.2, (complete cooker 10.2) You'll be better off. KDE3.3.1 shipped with 10.1 is alpha an buggy quality, IME. Cooker is currently stable. Do it NOW while cooker is slow for the holidays YMMV -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE CD
John Layt wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:08, Todd Slater wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 04:02:21AM +0100, Danesh Daroui wrote: Hi, I have downloaded all iso imaged of Mandrake Linux Official 10.1. During installation, it needs KDE CD. I searched on available FTP sites, but there was not any KDE iso image. Can anybody help ? Regards, Danesh Daroui That's the disc 4 that Mandrake won't give away; you'll have to join the club or buy a box set to get it if I understand correctly. But if you're going to be running a server you don't want KDE anyway, right? Todd Just to clarify, CD4 has extras like commercial programs and kde3.3, kde3.2 is still available on the normal 3 cd download set, just choose to skip it for now. Later, you can download kde3.3.1 from a public Club mirror (but not the commercial stuff). John. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Thanks for you tips. I have been member in Mandrake Club (Sliver Member) for future use and to be comfortable for all downloading stuff. I think I should renew my membership every year, isn't it right ? Well, I hope not, at lease I hope they do not charge my credit card automatically
Re: [newbie] KDE CD
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 03:22, Danesh Daroui wrote: Thanks for you tips. I have been member in Mandrake Club (Sliver Member) for future use and to be comfortable for all downloading stuff. I think I should renew my membership every year, isn't it right ? Well, I hope not, at lease I hope they do not charge my credit card automatically Nope, they send you a series of e-mails for about a month before you expire encouraging you to renew. If you do nothing, then you switch to 'Alumni' status, that is you stay a member, but loose any access to the new download stuff. John. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KDE CD
Hi, I have downloaded all iso imaged of Mandrake Linux Official 10.1. During installation, it needs KDE CD. I searched on available FTP sites, but there was not any KDE iso image. Can anybody help ? Regards, Danesh Daroui
Re: [newbie] KDE CD
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 04:02:21AM +0100, Danesh Daroui wrote: Hi, I have downloaded all iso imaged of Mandrake Linux Official 10.1. During installation, it needs KDE CD. I searched on available FTP sites, but there was not any KDE iso image. Can anybody help ? Regards, Danesh Daroui That's the disc 4 that Mandrake won't give away; you'll have to join the club or buy a box set to get it if I understand correctly. But if you're going to be running a server you don't want KDE anyway, right? Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE CD
Danesh Daroui wrote: Hi, I have downloaded all iso imaged of Mandrake Linux Official 10.1. During installation, it needs KDE CD. I searched on available FTP sites, but there was not any KDE iso image. Can anybody help ? Regards, Danesh Daroui I think the forth Cd (KDE cd) might only be for Mandrake Members even though i see most Linux Re-sellers sell the forth cd as well. You would have to hit cancel during the install when it asks you for the 4th Cd or in the beginning of the install select only that you have the first 3 cds. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE CD
once you've got mandrake installed, then you can just add kde 3.3 using urpmi Just skip it for now, and choose another window manager like gnome. On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:08:59 -0500, Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 04:02:21AM +0100, Danesh Daroui wrote: Hi, I have downloaded all iso imaged of Mandrake Linux Official 10.1. During installation, it needs KDE CD. I searched on available FTP sites, but there was not any KDE iso image. Can anybody help ? Regards, Danesh Daroui That's the disc 4 that Mandrake won't give away; you'll have to join the club or buy a box set to get it if I understand correctly. But if you're going to be running a server you don't want KDE anyway, right? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE CD
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:08, Todd Slater wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 04:02:21AM +0100, Danesh Daroui wrote: Hi, I have downloaded all iso imaged of Mandrake Linux Official 10.1. During installation, it needs KDE CD. I searched on available FTP sites, but there was not any KDE iso image. Can anybody help ? Regards, Danesh Daroui That's the disc 4 that Mandrake won't give away; you'll have to join the club or buy a box set to get it if I understand correctly. But if you're going to be running a server you don't want KDE anyway, right? Todd Just to clarify, CD4 has extras like commercial programs and kde3.3, kde3.2 is still available on the normal 3 cd download set, just choose to skip it for now. Later, you can download kde3.3.1 from a public Club mirror (but not the commercial stuff). John. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KDE 3.3
Hi, I know this Q was asked before but I could not really figure out what to do. I had MDK 10.1 cooker and upgraded it to 10.1 official using urpmi. I still have KDE 3.3 and not sure how to get it installed via urpmi. I actually tried to download KDE konstruct, unzipped it, and tried make install bu it stops at a different point every time I try... Pls. advise. Thanks, Adil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.3 (without removing 3.2)
On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 20:26 -0500, Randall D. Hobbs wrote: On Saturday 16 October 2004 08:19 pm, Jack wrote: I seem to have more recent versions and I also have Mandrake 10.1 community. I suppose that could be making a difference also. I could remove the later versions of the C compiler and install your versions. Would you suggest that? Hmmm... Not sure if you should remove those RPM's, as there are quite a few dependancies for them. I will do a little checking, and see what else I can find out, and will post back in a few (possibly with a better answer)... Any updates on this problem? - Jack Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.3 (without removing 3.2)
Jack wrote: I think xosl is now called osl2000, which is the boot manager I'm using... - Jack From what I can gather from the osl2000 web site, XOSL is an entirely different boot manager. I haven't tried the osl2000 product, but based on the screenshots, I'd still prefer XOSL. It looks like the original web site is down, but is mirrored here, including the download section as well as the docs and screenshots. http://www2.arnes.si/~fkomar/xosl.org/ I wasn't able to discover whether osl2000 fits inside the MBR, though I am guessing that it does because it claims not to need a FAT or NTFS partition to install into. Based on what I read, XOSL does a better job of hiding partitions, and since it does not have to fit into the MBR, offers the ability to have multiple backup copies of changed MBRs as well as lots better graphical setup and configuration screens. Take a look at XOSL and let me know what you think, you've got osl2000 experience and I don't. Rick Kunath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.3 (without removing 3.2)
On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 00:18 +0200, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 19 October 2004 23:17, Jack wrote: snip Perhaps a power-user like you can make it recognize my Canon D760 printer/copier but I can't, especially when there is no driver *anywhere* for it. /snip Have you tried Turboprint ? http://www.turboprint.de/english.html Thanks Kaj... I looked at the site you posted but there is no driver for my Canon D760... - Jack Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.3 (without removing 3.2)
On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 10:41 -0400, Rick Kunath wrote: From what I can gather from the osl2000 web site, XOSL is an entirely different boot manager. I haven't tried the osl2000 product, but based on the screenshots, I'd still prefer XOSL. It looks like the original web site is down, but is mirrored here, including the download section as well as the docs and screenshots. http://www2.arnes.si/~fkomar/xosl.org/ I wasn't able to discover whether osl2000 fits inside the MBR, though I am guessing that it does because it claims not to need a FAT or NTFS partition to install into. Based on what I read, XOSL does a better job of hiding partitions, and since it does not have to fit into the MBR, offers the ability to have multiple backup copies of changed MBRs as well as lots better graphical setup and configuration screens. Take a look at XOSL and let me know what you think, you've got osl2000 experience and I don't. Rick Kunath Looks good Rick... I've downloaded it and might give it a shot when/if I have to do a reinstall... Right now, I'm very happy with osl2000. It even enables me to boot into Linux from my XP desktop, if I should want to do that... - Jack Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
