[newbie] Laptop-PC Powers-Off suddenly in MDK 10.1
Hi, I have a problem of having my Laptop-PC, powers-off suddenly after using my PC every 10-40 minutes. It only happens recently, after using Mdk 10.1 for 4 months. BTW, I am using Dell Inspiron 5100 - 2.8GHz, Pentium 4, RAM 512Mb. My chkconfig shows following ACPI setting message: acpid 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on4:on5:on6:off acpi0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off Also, my MCC-System-Services is currently under this status: ACPI stopped [unchecked] On Boot [Start] [Stopped] ACPID stopped [checked] On Boot [Start] [Stopped] No problem whatsoever like this while working with my Windows. What could be the problem? Thanks so much for your time before hand. Hope to hear from you again. -- Edward WIJAYA Singapore Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] laptop batteries
Does anyone have a recommendation for a reliable, inexpensive source of replacement laptop batteries? TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] laptop batteries
Title: [newbie] laptop batteries Paul Kaplan wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation for a reliable, inexpensive source of replacement laptop batteries? I've been very happy with: http://www.notebook-battery-for-less.com/ -larry
[newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg -- Linux Mandrake Rules __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Greg wrote: Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg Greg; I have the HP Pavilion ZD7000 and even with a P4 CPU it runs hot sometimes. However, AMD CPU's are notorious for running even hotter that Intel P4's. Your problem could simply be that the temp shutdown settings are too low. Try changing the settings in your BIOS - you can access it when booting the laptop. You should see a notice on the screen which tells you which key to press for BIOS access. Have a look at anything related to CPU Temp, Thermal Shutdown or CPU fan monitoring to see if there's a setting you can adjust. Be careful though! Turning off or changing the settings might cause the system to overheat and cause permanent damage! If you need to replace the cooling fan(s), you will have to order the correct fans from HP, assuming that they'll even ship them to you at all. HTH. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg Greg; I have the HP Pavilion ZD7000 and even with a P4 CPU it runs hot sometimes. However, AMD CPU's are notorious for running even hotter that Intel P4's. Your problem could simply be that the temp shutdown settings are too low. Try changing the settings in your BIOS - you can access it when booting the laptop. You should see a notice on the screen which tells you which key to press for BIOS access. Have a look at anything related to CPU Temp, Thermal Shutdown or CPU fan monitoring to see if there's a setting you can adjust. Be careful though! Turning off or changing the settings might cause the system to overheat and cause permanent damage! If you need to replace the cooling fan(s), you will have to order the correct fans from HP, assuming that they'll even ship them to you at all. HTH. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Thanks for the tip I will look at it and what the setting are and get back to you I used to hear the fan cycling off and on but now I dont hear it at all It does have the AMD CPU in it Greg -- Linux Mandrake Rules __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Greg wrote: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg Greg; I have the HP Pavilion ZD7000 and even with a P4 CPU it runs hot sometimes. However, AMD CPU's are notorious for running even hotter that Intel P4's. Your problem could simply be that the temp shutdown settings are too low. Try changing the settings in your BIOS - you can access it when booting the laptop. You should see a notice on the screen which tells you which key to press for BIOS access. Have a look at anything related to CPU Temp, Thermal Shutdown or CPU fan monitoring to see if there's a setting you can adjust. Be careful though! Turning off or changing the settings might cause the system to overheat and cause permanent damage! If you need to replace the cooling fan(s), you will have to order the correct fans from HP, assuming that they'll even ship them to you at all. HTH. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Thanks for the tip I will look at it and what the setting are and get back to you I used to hear the fan cycling off and on but now I dont hear it at all It does have the AMD CPU in it Greg If you are using acpi, check to see if you have an entry for the fan in the /proc/acpi tree. I don't know about your laptop, but I know the fan can be software controlled on some laptops. For that matter, I used to have a utility to control the fan on my old Toshiba 400CDT under Linux, and it didn't suport acpi. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg Greg; I have the HP Pavilion ZD7000 and even with a P4 CPU it runs hot sometimes. However, AMD CPU's are notorious for running even hotter that Intel P4's. Your problem could simply be that the temp shutdown settings are too low. Try changing the settings in your BIOS - you can access it when booting the laptop. You should see a notice on the screen which tells you which key to press for BIOS access. Have a look at anything related to CPU Temp, Thermal Shutdown or CPU fan monitoring to see if there's a setting you can adjust. Be careful though! Turning off or changing the settings might cause the system to overheat and cause permanent damage! If you need to replace the cooling fan(s), you will have to order the correct fans from HP, assuming that they'll even ship them to you at all. HTH. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Thanks for the tip I will look at it and what the setting are and get back to you I used to hear the fan cycling off and on but now I dont hear it at all It does have the AMD CPU in it Greg If you are using acpi, check to see if you have an entry for the fan in the /proc/acpi tree. I don't know about your laptop, but I know the fan can be software controlled on some laptops. For that matter, I used to have a utility to control the fan on my old Toshiba 400CDT under Linux, and it didn't suport acpi. Mikkel I dont have linux on the laptop yet I only use it when I am at work All the software I use on it is for XP I am going to try VMware or other things so I can run Linux on it some day Just have not had time yet to play with it Plus I need a spare laptop ( have not been able to talk wife into that yet ) so that I have one to use while I play I need to get it running again I use it to log on to DDC control systems at work I have not been able to get into the BIOS yet It overheats too fast I was just trying a few minutes ago and I did hear the fan come on once but that was all Is there any way to keep the fan on all the time I am not worried about battery power because I have a outlet in the DDC panals I build so I dont use the battery much Thanks Greg -- Linux Mandrake Rules __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Greg wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg Greg; I have the HP Pavilion ZD7000 and even with a P4 CPU it runs hot sometimes. However, AMD CPU's are notorious for running even hotter that Intel P4's. Your problem could simply be that the temp shutdown settings are too low. Try changing the settings in your BIOS - you can access it when booting the laptop. You should see a notice on the screen which tells you which key to press for BIOS access. Have a look at anything related to CPU Temp, Thermal Shutdown or CPU fan monitoring to see if there's a setting you can adjust. Be careful though! Turning off or changing the settings might cause the system to overheat and cause permanent damage! If you need to replace the cooling fan(s), you will have to order the correct fans from HP, assuming that they'll even ship them to you at all. HTH. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Thanks for the tip I will look at it and what the setting are and get back to you I used to hear the fan cycling off and on but now I dont hear it at all It does have the AMD CPU in it Greg If you are using acpi, check to see if you have an entry for the fan in the /proc/acpi tree. I don't know about your laptop, but I know the fan can be software controlled on some laptops. For that matter, I used to have a utility to control the fan on my old Toshiba 400CDT under Linux, and it didn't suport acpi. Mikkel I dont have linux on the laptop yet I only use it when I am at work All the software I use on it is for XP I am going to try VMware or other things so I can run Linux on it some day Just have not had time yet to play with it Plus I need a spare laptop ( have not been able to talk wife into that yet ) so that I have one to use while I play I need to get it running again I use it to log on to DDC control systems at work I have not been able to get into the BIOS yet It overheats too fast I was just trying a few minutes ago and I did hear the fan come on once but that was all Is there any way to keep the fan on all the time I am not worried about battery power because I have a outlet in the DDC panals I build so I dont use the battery much Thanks Greg Sometimes there is a setting in the BIOS for that, but I don't think it will help in this case. If it overheats before you can get into the BIOS, then the fan probably is going to need to be replaced. It sounds like it starts to run, and then binds up. You may be able to get it going again for a SHORT while if you can get at the bearings, and put a drop of oil on them. On some laptops this can be done with a toothpick or straw. Others, you can not even see the fan... Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Installation problem
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 11:07 pm, András Keszei wrote: Thanks gang am giving up on using Mandrake on that POS will try Damn Small Linux (Hey it only takes 12 floppys) Sort of hijacking here, but does anyone know if is it possible in any way to install mandrake on a laptop that has no CD or floppy drive. I have a machine that's like this, and it could also help Aron stay with the wonderful world of mandrake. I have googled, but haven't found anything where the only bootable device is the one hdd you're installing to. I have thought of something like the following, but don't have a clue as to how I could pull it off, or if it's possible at all. 1: take hdd out, partition into 2 (hda ~4G, hdb ~2G) 2: prepare part.1 so it can boot up the laptop 3: copy all install files onto part.2 4: put hdd back into laptop 5: boot from part.1 6: install from partition 2, (can the installation process repartition part.1 into /, swap, etc, without running into problems?) anything to point me in the right direction here is a step to getting rid of my last windows installation. thanks guys Andras So how would we set up the first partition so that it would boot ? if possible it would be the way to go. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Installation problem
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 11:30 pm, John Layt wrote: On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:17, András Keszei wrote: As during the install the kernel is configured to make the most of the machine it was installed on, it will panic when it finds itself surrounded an unknown processor, mainboard, etc. The only way you could have gotten away with it, is if you had found an exactly the same armada _with_ a CD drive and installed on that. No, wrong. If he had hand-compiled the kernel to match his hardware, or if he made a major change in platform to say AMD64, this might be true, but for Pentium class 32 bit single processor boards Mandrake uses a standard pre-compiled generic i586 kernel, with hardware driver modules loaded as required. Harddrake runs at boot, and if the hardware changes then it changes the config files for the hardware modules as required. How do you think bootable Linux CD's like Knoppix or Mandrake Move manage to work on wildly different hardware??? If you read the error messages he gives, the boot fails only when it tries to mount the root filesystem and the mount fails. The kernel by that stage is already happily running on the hardware, /proc has been created and udev is up. Aron: The fault here lies in the HDD or filesystem config. Wait for Mikkel to get back to you, he's right on the money here. Okie Dokie better than dismanteling the laptop again. John. --- -- Forget that new hard drive, save some lives instead, donate to the Red Cross: USA: https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp UK: https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm Oz: https://www.redcross.org.au/Donations/onlineTsunamiDonations.asp NZ: https://www.banqonit.com/proxypage.aspx?boiid=205 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Installation problem
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Aron Smith wrote: On Wednesday 05 January 2005 05:28 pm, Aron Smith wrote: I have an old Compaq Armada here with no CD-ROM by removing the HDD (6Gb) and u7sing an adapter I was able to install ? Mdk 10.1 on the drive. After reinstalling the drive I find that I have a problem Kernel panic : No init found Try passingi nit= optionn to kernel So what do I do now (oboviously I have reached my level of incompentance The problem looks like the root directory is not on the device specified during installation. Let me guess - when you did the install, this drive was not /dev/hda, and now it is. You are going to have to make a couple of changes to make it work. Unless someone has the answers handy, I will have to do a bit of research in the monring, but basicly what you have to do is change the root devices passed to the kernel from /dev/hd?# to /dev/hda# where # is the partition number, and stays the same - only the drive letter changes. You will also want to specify init=/bin/bash for this boot, untill you can edit /etc/fstab to reflect the changed drive. You will also have to edit /etc/lilo.conf and change the root drive specified there. Make sure you run lilo after making the change, so that the changes take effect. There is a way to do it by putting the drive back in the other machne, but that probably would be just as hard. One other way would be to get one of the floppy distributions, boot off of it, and go in and make the changes. Mikkel Ok - there is no real easy way to do this. If you remember what partition the root file system is, you can try this: Hit the Esc key when you get the boot screen. at the Boot: prompt, type linux root=/dev/hda# init=/bin/bash where # is the root partition number. If all goes well, you are now at the # prompt. From here, you can edit /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf as described above. I like to use mcedit or joe for this, but the editor is your choice. Now, if this doesn't work, then we can try other options. There is one thing that may cause problems. And because lilo works, I think this may be the case. If your laptop is old enough that it doesn't use LBA, and the ither system used LBA, or the two systems see the hard drive as different configurations, then the partition table may not reflect how the laptop sees the drive. But I would have expected to see some error messages before it got to the point of trying to mount the root file system. When you had the drive in the other system, were there other drives, besides the CD-ROM drive in the system? Knowing the install system configuration would help with knowing what MDK thinks it is installed on. Before you give up on MDK, and go to a floppy based system, you may want to look at doing a network install. I have not done one with MDK yet, but it used to be fairly easy with RedHat. You do need a network card for the laptop though. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Installation problem
András Keszei wrote: Sort of hijacking here, but does anyone know if is it possible in any way to install mandrake on a laptop that has no CD or floppy drive. I have a machine that's like this, and it could also help Aron stay with the wonderful world of mandrake. I have googled, but haven't found anything where the only bootable device is the one hdd you're installing to. I have thought of something like the following, but don't have a clue as to how I could pull it off, or if it's possible at all. 1: take hdd out, partition into 2 (hda ~4G, hdb ~2G) 2: prepare part.1 so it can boot up the laptop 3: copy all install files onto part.2 4: put hdd back into laptop 5: boot from part.1 6: install from partition 2, (can the installation process repartition part.1 into /, swap, etc, without running into problems?) anything to point me in the right direction here is a step to getting rid of my last windows installation. thanks guys Andras It should work. You can not turn the partition with the install files into swap during install, because the formating would wipe out the install files. What I would do is just create partition for the install files, and leave the rest free. Let the installer partition it, with one exception - do not let it create a seperate /home partition. During the install, do not create any users except root. On your first boot, drop to run level 1, and use diskdrake to chane that partition to linux ext3. Have this be your /home partition. Now reboot, and create your users. The reasion for waiting to create the users is that we don't want any home directories created before we have our /home partition. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop Installation problem
I have an old Compaq Armada here with no CD-ROM by removing the HDD (6Gb) and u7sing an adapter I was able to install ? Mdk 10.1 on the drive. After reinstalling the drive I find that I have a problem Kernel panic : No init found Try passingi nit= optionn to kernel So what do I do now (oboviously I have reached my level of incompentance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Installation problem
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 05:28 pm, Aron Smith wrote: I have an old Compaq Armada here with no CD-ROM by removing the HDD (6Gb) and u7sing an adapter I was able to install ? Mdk 10.1 on the drive. After reinstalling the drive I find that I have a problem Kernel panic : No init found Try passingi nit= optionn to kernel So what do I do now (oboviously I have reached my level of incompentance Some more information this is the screen output md..autorun Done RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) Red Hat nash version 4.1.12mdk starting Loading jbd.ko module loading ext3.ko module Mounting /proc filesystem Mounting sysfs Creating device files mounting tmpfs on /dev starting udev Creating root device Mounting root filesystem mount: error6 mounting ext3 flags defaults well, retrying without theoption flags mount: error 6 mounting ext3 well, retrying readonly without anyflag mount : error 6mounting ext3 picvotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot,sysroot/intrid) failed:2 umount /intrid/sysfailed :2 umount /intrid/proc failed :2 intrid finished Freeing unused kernel memory : 200k freed Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Installation problem
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 12:28, Aron Smith wrote: I have an old Compaq Armada here with no CD-ROM by removing the HDD (6Gb) and u7sing an adapter I was able to install ? Mdk 10.1 on the drive. After reinstalling the drive I find that I have a problem Kernel panic : No init found Try passingi nit= optionn to kernel So what do I do now (oboviously I have reached my level of incompentance It seems to me that you installed mandrake on a different computer than your laptop, and then just tried to get away with slipping the harddrive back. As during the install the kernel is configured to make the most of the machine it was installed on, it will panic when it finds itself surrounded an unknown processor, mainboard, etc. The only way you could have gotten away with it, is if you had found an exactly the same armada _with_ a CD drive and installed on that. So, if you have a floppy drive, you can try a network install. Or, copy the install files to a partition on the harddrive, set it up as source during an install starting from floppy. I haven't done this before, but I think it has been discussed on the list. If you have no floppy drive either, then we've reached the level of my incompetence also. Andras -- Linux User #245991 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Installation problem
Aron Smith wrote: On Wednesday 05 January 2005 05:28 pm, Aron Smith wrote: I have an old Compaq Armada here with no CD-ROM by removing the HDD (6Gb) and u7sing an adapter I was able to install ? Mdk 10.1 on the drive. After reinstalling the drive I find that I have a problem Kernel panic : No init found Try passingi nit= optionn to kernel So what do I do now (oboviously I have reached my level of incompentance Some more information this is the screen output md..autorun Done RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) Red Hat nash version 4.1.12mdk starting Loading jbd.ko module loading ext3.ko module Mounting /proc filesystem Mounting sysfs Creating device files mounting tmpfs on /dev starting udev Creating root device Mounting root filesystem mount: error6 mounting ext3 flags defaults well, retrying without theoption flags mount: error 6 mounting ext3 well, retrying readonly without anyflag mount : error 6mounting ext3 picvotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot,sysroot/intrid) failed:2 umount /intrid/sysfailed :2 umount /intrid/proc failed :2 intrid finished Freeing unused kernel memory : 200k freed Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel The problem looks like the root directory is not on the device specified during installation. Let me guess - when you did the install, this drive was not /dev/hda, and now it is. You are going to have to make a couple of changes to make it work. Unless someone has the answers handy, I will have to do a bit of research in the monring, but basicly what you have to do is change the root devices passed to the kernel from /dev/hd?# to /dev/hda# where # is the partition number, and stays the same - only the drive letter changes. You will also want to specify init=/bin/bash for this boot, untill you can edit /etc/fstab to reflect the changed drive. You will also have to edit /etc/lilo.conf and change the root drive specified there. Make sure you run lilo after making the change, so that the changes take effect. There is a way to do it by putting the drive back in the other machne, but that probably would be just as hard. One other way would be to get one of the floppy distributions, boot off of it, and go in and make the changes. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Installation problem
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 09:17 pm, András Keszei wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 12:28, Aron Smith wrote: I have an old Compaq Armada here with no CD-ROM by removing the HDD (6Gb) and u7sing an adapter I was able to install ? Mdk 10.1 on the drive. After reinstalling the drive I find that I have a problem Kernel panic : No init found Try passingi nit= optionn to kernel So what do I do now (oboviously I have reached my level of incompentance It seems to me that you installed mandrake on a different computer than your laptop, and then just tried to get away with slipping the harddrive back. As during the install the kernel is configured to make the most of the machine it was installed on, it will panic when it finds itself surrounded an unknown processor, mainboard, etc. The only way you could have gotten away with it, is if you had found an exactly the same armada _with_ a CD drive and installed on that. So, if you have a floppy drive, you can try a network install. Or, copy the install files to a partition on the harddrive, set it up as source during an install starting from floppy. I haven't done this before, but I think it has been discussed on the list. If you have no floppy drive either, then we've reached the level of my incompetence also. Andras Thanks gang am giving up on using Mandrake on that POS will try Damn Small Linux (Hey it only takes 12 floppys) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Installation problem
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:17, András Keszei wrote: As during the install the kernel is configured to make the most of the machine it was installed on, it will panic when it finds itself surrounded an unknown processor, mainboard, etc. The only way you could have gotten away with it, is if you had found an exactly the same armada _with_ a CD drive and installed on that. No, wrong. If he had hand-compiled the kernel to match his hardware, or if he made a major change in platform to say AMD64, this might be true, but for Pentium class 32 bit single processor boards Mandrake uses a standard pre-compiled generic i586 kernel, with hardware driver modules loaded as required. Harddrake runs at boot, and if the hardware changes then it changes the config files for the hardware modules as required. How do you think bootable Linux CD's like Knoppix or Mandrake Move manage to work on wildly different hardware??? If you read the error messages he gives, the boot fails only when it tries to mount the root filesystem and the mount fails. The kernel by that stage is already happily running on the hardware, /proc has been created and udev is up. Aron: The fault here lies in the HDD or filesystem config. Wait for Mikkel to get back to you, he's right on the money here. John. - Forget that new hard drive, save some lives instead, donate to the Red Cross: USA: https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp UK: https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm Oz: https://www.redcross.org.au/Donations/onlineTsunamiDonations.asp NZ: https://www.banqonit.com/proxypage.aspx?boiid=205 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Installation problem
Thanks gang am giving up on using Mandrake on that POS will try Damn Small Linux (Hey it only takes 12 floppys) Sort of hijacking here, but does anyone know if is it possible in any way to install mandrake on a laptop that has no CD or floppy drive. I have a machine that's like this, and it could also help Aron stay with the wonderful world of mandrake. I have googled, but haven't found anything where the only bootable device is the one hdd you're installing to. I have thought of something like the following, but don't have a clue as to how I could pull it off, or if it's possible at all. 1: take hdd out, partition into 2 (hda ~4G, hdb ~2G) 2: prepare part.1 so it can boot up the laptop 3: copy all install files onto part.2 4: put hdd back into laptop 5: boot from part.1 6: install from partition 2, (can the installation process repartition part.1 into /, swap, etc, without running into problems?) anything to point me in the right direction here is a step to getting rid of my last windows installation. thanks guys Andras -- Linux User #245991 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop hp ze4325us boot freeze solved on 10.1 community (acpi) and wlan--Thanks to all
A big thank you to all who helped me. I am sitting in my Lazyboy sending this from a linux box that for the first time since Mandrake 7.2 does everything I want it to do. I am going to enjoy this for a few weeks and then when I get 10.1 Official I will try breaking it by building a kernel with ACPI support and getting the built in ACX100 driver to work. I am currently using the Linuxant package and it works quite well and was easy to install. Pat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop hp ze4325us boot freeze solved on 10.1 community (acpi)
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Pat Patterson wrote: This did not seem to go through the first time. Fixed this and thought I would report it here and in twiki. HP ze4325us Athlon chip, Ali chipset, Radeon video. UNknown motherboard. This machine installed 10.0 great. Under 10.1 installs and freezes on reboot. I tried noapic noalpic noacpi nodma and none worked. What works is: linux acpi=off Once it boots add acpi=off to lilo. After I got it working I did a clean install. I found out that if you scroll down when you get to the final setup screen there is an entry for boot. Unchecking the acpi enabled button, solves the problem. Sounds similar to my Compaq 2100's issues. I was able to setup/load a custom DSDT, which solved the ACPI and related problems. (Although prism54 still doesn't work as I hit the usual, mfg changed internals but kept the same product number. Ndiswrapper works for me, from sourceforge.) Some help on setting up a DSDT: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardwareHowTo#ACPI_Custom_DSDT HTH, -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop hp ze4325us boot freeze solved on 10.1 community (acpi)
Sounds similar to my Compaq 2100's issues. I was able to setup/load a custom DSDT, which solved the ACPI and related problems. (Although prism54 still doesn't work as I hit the usual, mfg changed internals but kept the same product number. Ndiswrapper works for me, from sourceforge.) Some help on setting up a DSDT: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardwareHowTo#ACPI_Cust om_DSDT HTH, -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft Tried ndiswrapper had some problems. Am working on using the on board acx100_pci. If it doesn't work I will try it again. thanks for the acpi tip I will make that my next project. Currently I am trying the linuxant package and at least it fires up the card and lets me confgure it Once I get it running I will try an open source solution Thanks, Pat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop hp ze4325us boot freeze solved on 10.1 community (acpi)
Pat Patterson wrote: This did not seem to go through the first time. Fixed this and thought I would report it here and in twiki. HP ze4325us Athlon chip, Ali chipset, Radeon video. UNknown motherboard. This machine installed 10.0 great. Under 10.1 installs and freezes on reboot. I tried noapic noalpic noacpi nodma and none worked. What works is: linux acpi=off Once it boots add acpi=off to lilo. After I got it working I did a clean install. I found out that if you scroll down when you get to the final setup screen there is an entry for boot. Unchecking the acpi enabled button, solves the problem. Still cannot get a wireless card to work. It is recognized but does not seem to come on. I wi ask question after I have tried a few things but if anyone has any words of wisdom they will be welcome :-) Does anyone know if having acpi of effects wireless? Pat Hi Pat, I highly recommend that you recompile your Kernel 2.6.8.x and you'll be able to get acpi working. It's important to have it working so that your fan doesn't have to work so hard. You'll be able to turn down your clock speed to extend battery life. Which chipset is your wifi? I've used Ndiswrapper to get my wifi working on my ze4560us but it loses connectivity when I go beyond 10 feet. In windows its range is around 60 feet. I'm still trying to solve the instability of Ndiswrapper. When compiling that kernel, say No to apic. Good luck, Sevatio Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop hp ze4325us boot freeze solved on 10.1 community (acpi)
This did not seem to go through the first time. Fixed this and thought I would report it here and in twiki. HP ze4325us Athlon chip, Ali chipset, Radeon video. UNknown motherboard. This machine installed 10.0 great. Under 10.1 installs and freezes on reboot. I tried noapic noalpic noacpi nodma and none worked. What works is: linux acpi=off Once it boots add acpi=off to lilo. After I got it working I did a clean install. I found out that if you scroll down when you get to the final setup screen there is an entry for boot. Unchecking the acpi enabled button, solves the problem. Still cannot get a wireless card to work. It is recognized but does not seem to come on. I wi ask question after I have tried a few things but if anyone has any words of wisdom they will be welcome :-) Does anyone know if having acpi of effects wireless? Pat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 08:37, M.Schild wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 07:02 am, Erylon Hines wrote: On Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:01 pm, charlie wrote: | On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:50 pm, M.Schild wrote: | charlie wrote: | On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:32 pm, M.Schild wrote: | My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop as | | I cannot recall for certain, but 9.2 worked everything rather well too. | HTH | | Charlie Ditto, here. 9.1 worked well and 9.2 is problem free (except for the need to download the kernel-source, which is 40+ megs and the need to get the update-db bugfixes--absolutely mandatory). If you have a Lucent chipped winmodem that will work with the 2.4 kernel, too. Truthfully, I don't see much difference between 9.1 and 9.2, and I have both systems side-by-side in my office. If my friend is willing to try 9.1, where do I find the kernel-source and the updates? Maryse iso for CDs at: ftp://mirror.fis.unb.br/pub/linux/Mandrake-old/iso/ RPMs at ftp://mirror.fis.unb.br/pub/linux/Mandrake-old/9.1/i586/ pm -- The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do. B. F. Skinner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 00:37, M.Schild wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 07:02 am, Erylon Hines wrote: On Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:01 pm, charlie wrote: | On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:50 pm, M.Schild wrote: | charlie wrote: | On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:32 pm, M.Schild wrote: | My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop as | | I cannot recall for certain, but 9.2 worked everything | rather well too. HTH | | Charlie Ditto, here. 9.1 worked well and 9.2 is problem free (except for the need to download the kernel-source, which is 40+ megs and the need to get the update-db bugfixes--absolutely mandatory). If you have a Lucent chipped winmodem that will work with the 2.4 kernel, too. Truthfully, I don't see much difference between 9.1 and 9.2, and I have both systems side-by-side in my office. If my friend is willing to try 9.1, where do I find the kernel-source and the updates? Maryse Kernel 'urpmi kernel-source' Updates I dont think 9.1 gets updates anymore. -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
Kernel 'urpmi kernel-source' Updates I dont think 9.1 gets updates anymore. that´s waht I thought. thanks Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
Ditto, here. 9.1 worked well and 9.2 is problem free (except for the need to download the kernel-source, which is 40+ megs and the need to get the update-db bugfixes--absolutely mandatory). If you have a Lucent chipped winmodem that will work with the 2.4 kernel, too. Truthfully, I don't see much difference between 9.1 and 9.2, and I have both systems side-by-side in my office. If my friend is willing to try 9.1, where do I find the kernel-source and the updates? Maryse iso for CDs at: ftp://mirror.fis.unb.br/pub/linux/Mandrake-old/iso/ RPMs at ftp://mirror.fis.unb.br/pub/linux/Mandrake-old/9.1/i586/ yes but with an unreliable modem connection. Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
M.Schild wrote: Updates I dont think 9.1 gets updates anymore. Yes, it does. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop asked a professional to save what she could. I did slip the professional my Mandrake CDs so she could try to install 10. She had problems with the modem ( we knew about that, easily solved), the sound and , much more annoying, the touch screen ( or whatever it is called). Now she is back on a limping Win XPbut would prefer Linux if it works Anyone has any solution? thanks Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:32 pm, M.Schild wrote: My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop asked a professional to save what she could. I did slip the professional my Mandrake CDs so she could try to install 10. She had problems with the modem ( we knew about that, easily solved), the sound and , much more annoying, the touch screen ( or whatever it is called). Now she is back on a limping Win XPbut would prefer Linux if it works Anyone has any solution? thanks Maryse The touch pad works in my Acer but with the 2.4 kernel, it never gets past the mouse configuration with the 2.6 kernel. No matter what I have tried, and commands are passed to the kernel, it won't get past that point. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- He who distinguishes the true savour of his food can never be a glutton; he who does not cannot be otherwise. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
charlie wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:32 pm, M.Schild wrote: My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop asked a professional to save what she could. I did slip the professional my Mandrake CDs so she could try to install 10. She had problems with the modem ( we knew about that, easily solved), the sound and , much more annoying, the touch screen ( or whatever it is called). Now she is back on a limping Win XPbut would prefer Linux if it works Anyone has any solution? thanks Maryse The touch pad works in my Acer but with the 2.4 kernel, it never gets past the mouse configuration with the 2.6 kernel. No matter what I have tried, and commands are passed to the kernel, it won't get past that point. Charlie. In this case, it wold be easier if I installed 9.1 Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 08:30 am, Alan Shoemaker wrote: On Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:01 pm, charlie wrote: I couldn't get the win modem to work because 9.2 didn't supply a kernel source and I am in very slow dial up. That is the problem with that lappy, no serial port. But someone posted something about a modem card that might be the way to go. But haven't investigated it as yet. Price is about $AU135.oo. HTH Charlie arrh! if australian dollars are anywhere close in value to american dollars, then that price is awful!!! check this out: http://www.meritline.com/zfm5600-v-92-56kb-fax-modem-pcmcia-pc-card.html and note at the bottom of the page thay have an aussie flag icon marked: 'Australia customers, click here.' i've used this brand/model pcmcia hardware modem with my toshiba laptop for several years now. Thanks Alan, I don't know anything about these cards, but read something about them on this or the expert list some time back. I looked at the above website and then moved to the one in OZ, but copying the exact name in had no results there, and also typing in pcmcia modem card had no result. So maybe there is something about the card that is not accepted in Oz. I have only ever found one, that being the one which I posted the price on. I don't think they are much used in this country. But when I bought the lappy I didn't check, but just assumed [ which as it turned out, made an ass of me ] a serial port. We are about to move to solar power, and the lappy will drag less power. The $Au is valued at about half the US dollar. I will keep looking, there is no option but dial up in the bush here. Thanks again. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- I have received no more than one or two letters in my life that were worth the postage. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 04:37 pm, charlie wrote: On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 08:30 am, Alan Shoemaker wrote: On Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:01 pm, charlie wrote: I couldn't get the win modem to work because 9.2 didn't supply a kernel source and I am in very slow dial up. That is the problem with that lappy, no serial port. But someone posted something about a modem card that might be the way to go. But haven't investigated it as yet. Price is about $AU135.oo. HTH Charlie arrh! if australian dollars are anywhere close in value to american dollars, then that price is awful!!! check this out: http://www.meritline.com/zfm5600-v-92-56kb-fax-modem-pcmcia-pc-card.html and note at the bottom of the page thay have an aussie flag icon marked: 'Australia customers, click here.' i've used this brand/model pcmcia hardware modem with my toshiba laptop for several years now. Thanks Alan, I don't know anything about these cards, but read something about them on this or the expert list some time back. I looked at the above website and then moved to the one in OZ, but copying the exact name in had no results there, and also typing in pcmcia modem card had no result. So maybe there is something about the card that is not accepted in Oz. I have only ever found one, that being the one which I posted the price on. that's certainly a bummer. use froogle: http://froogle.google.com/ and type in the search window: australia pcmcia 56k modem then in the list that results (i got over 800 hits), look for 56k pcmcia modems that are priced better than $130. the before purchase, verify with the seller that it is, in fact, a hardware modem, and not a winmodem, softmodem, hfc modem etc. good luck and be careful, caveat emptor! I don't think they are much used in this country. But when I bought the lappy I didn't check, but just assumed [ which as it turned out, made an ass of me ] a serial port. We are about to move to solar power, and the lappy will drag less power. The $Au is valued at about half the US dollar. I will keep looking, there is no option but dial up in the bush here. Thanks again. Charlie. -- Alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:01 pm, charlie wrote: | On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:50 pm, M.Schild wrote: | charlie wrote: | On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:32 pm, M.Schild wrote: | My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop as | I cannot recall for certain, but 9.2 worked everything rather well too. | HTH | | Charlie Ditto, here. 9.1 worked well and 9.2 is problem free (except for the need to download the kernel-source, which is 40+ megs and the need to get the update-db bugfixes--absolutely mandatory). If you have a Lucent chipped winmodem that will work with the 2.4 kernel, too. Truthfully, I don't see much difference between 9.1 and 9.2, and I have both systems side-by-side in my office. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 07:02 am, Erylon Hines wrote: On Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:01 pm, charlie wrote: | On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:50 pm, M.Schild wrote: | charlie wrote: | On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:32 pm, M.Schild wrote: | My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop as | | I cannot recall for certain, but 9.2 worked everything rather well too. | HTH | | Charlie Ditto, here. 9.1 worked well and 9.2 is problem free (except for the need to download the kernel-source, which is 40+ megs and the need to get the update-db bugfixes--absolutely mandatory). If you have a Lucent chipped winmodem that will work with the 2.4 kernel, too. Truthfully, I don't see much difference between 9.1 and 9.2, and I have both systems side-by-side in my office. If my friend is willing to try 9.1, where do I find the kernel-source and the updates? Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
Hello, A friend just called. She was running Win XP on a Packard Bell Easy One Silver 2101 and it crashed totally. I have been trying to convert her to Linux but before installing it, I would like your opinion. From what I found out on the net, her laptop has: RAM 256Mo , 1GHz ,HD 20 Go. What version would be best, MDK 9.1 or 10? Any foreseeable problems?( she would assassinate me if things went ( more) wrong. Thanks for your help Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 11:33, M.Schild wrote: Hello, A friend just called. She was running Win XP on a Packard Bell Easy One Silver 2101 and it crashed totally. I have been trying to convert her to Linux but before installing it, I would like your opinion. From what I found out on the net, her laptop has: RAM 256Mo , 1GHz ,HD 20 Go. What version would be best, MDK 9.1 or 10? Any foreseeable problems?( she would assassinate me if things went ( more) wrong. Thanks for your help Maryse Your best bet would be to check out the Linux on Laptops site at: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Should be little difference between 9 10, but there may be difficulties with sound and/or modem - depends on what they use. -- pm Laws alone can not secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be spirit of tolerance in the entire population. Albert Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
On Thursday 26 August 2004 09:33, M.Schild wrote: Hello, A friend just called. She was running Win XP on a Packard Bell Easy One Silver 2101 and it crashed totally. I have been trying to convert her to Linux but before installing it, I would like your opinion. From what I found out on the net, her laptop has: RAM 256Mo , 1GHz ,HD 20 Go. What version would be best, MDK 9.1 or 10? Any foreseeable problems?( she would assassinate me if things went ( more) wrong. Thanks for your help Maryse I would suggest you go over to http://www.pclinuxonline.com/pclos/index.html?PHPSESSID=8fb36aeaa7ea05b6eacff6cbbc718acb and get yourself a copy of PCLOS. PCLOS is a bootable linux liveCD based on Mandrake 9.2 made by a guy called Texstar. Tex has for many years produced RPM packages for Mandrake, and now he has forked off his own distro. What is really nice about PCLOS is that you can boot it from CD just like knoppix and it comes up as a Mandrake desktop with everything already preconfigured with Nvidia drivers, Acrobat, Java etc, and with online update sources predefined. (Tex uses Synaptic instead of rpmdrake for updates) Tex has bundled in a sensible selection of applications all ready to go. Perfect for a Linux newbie. If your friend likes what she see. It is real simple to install PCLOS to hard drive as a dual boot with Windows. Or alternatively you could proceed with a standard Mandrake install knowing that if PCLOS runs then Mandrake will also install OK. I believe in the future all Linux distros will install like this. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
Hello, A friend just called. She was running Win XP on a Packard Bell Easy One Silver 2101 and it crashed totally. I have been trying to convert her to Linux but before installing it, I would like your opinion. From what I found out on the net, her laptop has: RAM 256Mo , 1GHz ,HD 20 Go. What version would be best, MDK 9.1 or 10? Any foreseeable problems?( she would assassinate me if things went ( more) wrong. Thanks for your help Maryse Your best bet would be to check out the Linux on Laptops site at: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Should be little difference between 9 10, but there may be difficulties with sound and/or modem - depends on what they use. Thank you. It wasn´t on : http://www.linux-laptop.net/ but I found an article in frech on: http://linuxfr.org/~spada/8122.html saying Debian 3.0 installs well on it. The modem only works with the 2.4.23 kernel but the rest functions with 2.6 Problem: how do I get the modem driver if I cannot connect her laptop? Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 12:10, Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 09:33, M.Schild wrote: Hello, A friend just called. She was running Win XP on a Packard Bell Easy One Silver 2101 and it crashed totally. I have been trying to convert her to Linux but before installing it, I would like your opinion. From what I found out on the net, her laptop has: RAM 256Mo , 1GHz ,HD 20 Go. What version would be best, MDK 9.1 or 10? Any foreseeable problems?( she would assassinate me if things went ( more) wrong. Thanks for your help Maryse I would suggest you go over to http://www.pclinuxonline.com/pclos/index.html?PHPSESSID=8fb36aeaa7ea05b6eacff6cbbc718acb and get yourself a copy of PCLOS. PCLOS is a bootable linux liveCD based on Mandrake 9.2 made by a guy called Texstar. Tex has for many years produced RPM packages for Mandrake, and now he has forked off his own distro. What is really nice about PCLOS is that you can boot it from CD just like knoppix and it comes up as a Mandrake desktop with everything already preconfigured with Nvidia drivers, Acrobat, Java etc, and with online update sources predefined. (Tex uses Synaptic instead of rpmdrake for updates) Tex has bundled in a sensible selection of applications all ready to go. Perfect for a Linux newbie. If your friend likes what she see. It is real simple to install PCLOS to hard drive as a dual boot with Windows. Or alternatively you could proceed with a standard Mandrake install knowing that if PCLOS runs then Mandrake will also install OK. I believe in the future all Linux distros will install like this. derek I'd go along with this suggestion, but I forgot until it started) it will take maybe 6 times longer to load as it comes from a CD not hard-drive. The other person wasn't impressed. Once applications are in RAM it goes well, just the starting up. -- pm If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. Rene Descartes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
On Thursday 26 August 2004 09:33, M.Schild wrote: Hello, A friend just called. She was running Win XP on a Packard Bell Easy One Silver 2101 and it crashed totally. I have been trying to convert her to Linux but before installing it, I would like your opinion. From what I found out on the net, her laptop has: RAM 256Mo , 1GHz ,HD 20 Go. What version would be best, MDK 9.1 or 10? Any foreseeable problems?( she would assassinate me if things went ( more) wrong. Thanks for your help Maryse I would suggest you go over to http://www.pclinuxonline.com/pclos/index.html?PHPSESSID=8fb36aeaa7ea05b6eacff6cbbc718acb and get yourself a copy of PCLOS. PCLOS is a bootable linux liveCD based on Mandrake 9.2 made by a guy called Texstar. Tex has for many years produced RPM packages for Mandrake, and now he has forked off his own distro. What is really nice about PCLOS is that you can boot it from CD just like knoppix and it comes up as a Mandrake desktop with everything already preconfigured with Nvidia drivers, Acrobat, Java etc, and with online update sources predefined. (Tex uses Synaptic instead of rpmdrake for updates) Tex has bundled in a sensible selection of applications all ready to go. Perfect for a Linux newbie. If your friend likes what she see. It is real simple to install PCLOS to hard drive as a dual boot with Windows. Or alternatively you could proceed with a standard Mandrake install knowing that if PCLOS runs then Mandrake will also install OK. I believe in the future all Linux distros will install like this. derek sounds good but unfortunately only comes in english so far. She will want it in french thanks Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
If only choosing from Mandrake 9.1 or 10, I prefer 10. It's very easy to install (my experience is about 20 minutes for clean installation, more than 1 hour for updating). Basically there is no configuration problem and it's very to use. Some guy said 10 is more like a windows. I just take a look over PCLinuxOS after Dereck's pointer. I have to say it even looks like a windows more than 10. I also believe that the right direction for Linux is like Derek's words: easy to install (GUI) and easy to use (GUI) for newbies, meanwhile keeping flexibility (command line) for advanced guys. Anyway, I love 10. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 12:26, M.Schild wrote: Thank you. It wasn´t on : http://www.linux-laptop.net/ but I found an article in frech on: http://linuxfr.org/~spada/8122.html saying Debian 3.0 installs well on it. The modem only works with the 2.4.23 kernel but the rest functions with 2.6 Problem: how do I get the modem driver if I cannot connect her laptop? Maryse Does it have a floppy? If not then CD, memory card reader, or a simple network to another machine with a crossover cable. -- pm Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking. Albert Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
but I found an article in frech on: http://linuxfr.org/~spada/8122.html saying Debian 3.0 installs well on it. The modem only works with the 2.4.23 kernel but the rest functions with 2.6 Problem: how do I get the modem driver if I cannot connect her laptop? Maryse Does it have a floppy? If not then CD, memory card reader, or a simple network to another machine with a crossover cable I could have thought of it. Another dumb question: can one put an ext. modem on a laptop? Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
On Thursday 26 August 2004 07:16 am, M.Schild wrote: I could have thought of it. Another dumb question: can one put an ext. modem on a laptop? Yes. Most laptops have serial ports in the back and most today have USB ports as well. So, you should be able to hook up an ext modem either to serial, if it is a serial type or usb if it is usb. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 21:16, M.Schild wrote: I could have thought of it. Another dumb question: can one put an ext. modem on a laptop? Maryse Ya. If you have a serial port on the laptop (which most do have) you can plug a serial cable into the serial port and then to an external modem...which, by all reckoning, is best. -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. I know not how I came into this, shall I call it a dying life or a living death? -- St. Augustine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver
Ya. If you have a serial port on the laptop (which most do have) you can plug a serial cable into the serial port and then to an external modem...which, by all reckoning, is best. Thanks to all of you. Now it is a question if this friend will be brave enough to trust me or if she feels masochistic enough to reinstall XP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop choice - REPORT
Hi list, I had an unbelievable good response to my request for some pointers. I want to thank all those kind people who took the time and effort to try to make my choice easy .. I still like the IBM. Here follow all responses from 4 mail lists compiled in this document. Hope with all this on one doc it my help some one else. ** NEWBIE maillist.. Johan; There's a lot of things to consider when buying a laptop. My personal preference is a laptop that can handle a normal P4, and NOT a P4M. While this means that it will use battery power faster, most of the time I'm using the laptop, I'm plugged in to AC power somewhere. P4M's (Pentium 4 Mobile CPU's) are OK, but a standard P4 and laptop that uses Hyper-Threading will always outperform a P4M without question. Also, you should be able to upgrade the P4 as new ones come out, and P4's will always be less expensive than the P4M's. One other thing about P4's. Some of the newer P4's also have onboard cache that is one MB, and not 512K. This makes a huge difference in how fast the laptop will run. All that extra performance will keep you happy with the laptop much longer than a Centrino or Celeron could ever hope to do. Celeron CPU's are basically the same as a P4, but have a lot less cache onboard, and this is what makes them slower. Centrino's aren't an actual CPU, but a collection of P4M, Intel Chipset, Intel graphics GPU, and wireless and/or Bluetooth technologies built-in. Once I knew they used the P4M, I never kept looking for more details so you might want to look into that a bit more. I've set up or owned Toshiba, Compaq and Asus laptops. My problem is that my clients see whichever one I have and offer to buy them right there! The next one on my shopping list is the ECS G900 which can be viewed here; http://www.ecsusa.com/products/g900.html And that says it all. I know ECS isn't always known for their quality, but I have to see how this one runs before passing judgement. I'm hoping that it will surprise me. Since laptops are very expensive, most people don't buy new ones very often. My philosophy is to buy the fastest, most powerful one you can buy for the best price, so that your investment lasts a long time. Remember that many laptops will have modems which aren't supported by Linux, and others can be a real pain to set up. If you manage to get a modem working, consider yourself very lucky! If possible, try to find one that comes without an OS, so that you can do a fresh install and not have to worry about a Windows recovery CD set erasing your whole hard drive. Lanman ** celerion .. various speeds. Not as good as equivilent P4, stay away if you can centrino .. various speeds. Really the Pentium-M. Centroni is a brand that means the combination of the processor, chipset and WiFi card. It has a slower clock speed, but more work per cycle a la AMD, giving a cooler chip that uses less power and does the same amount of work. My 1.6GHz Pentium-M compiles a kernel a few seconds faster than my desktop 2400+. Intel's reliance on the Megehertz myth the past few yeares to try and best AMD has cost them with the Pentium-M IMO. The centrino seem to be the slower one than the other two. Do not mind price .. hardware .. trying to find what would be best in long run between the 3 processors. In a laptop, the Pentium-M IMHO. Kindly some pointers and suggestions to IBM laptops .. please. I like the T series the best. A great blend of portability and power. The R's are to big and bulky, and the others are crippled or too small. /g Greg I would like to put in a good word for Dell laptops. I have used 2 different models. The Inspiron 8000 and the Inspiron 9100. Both are considered heavy at around 8 or 9 pounds. The reason I chose them is that they both are easily setup with Mandrake. I dual boot into both of them. I had minor installation problems, both easily resolved with an email to this list. Another reason that I chose them is that they are both considered gaming machines with dedicated (upgradeable) video cards. No dependence on 'integrated' graphics. The 9100 is new and has a 3.2 Ghz P4 (not mobile). I generally use this machine at two different locations but plugged into power at both. I'm not sure if you have been pointed to the linux laptops page yet, so here's a real good link for that information. http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Best of luck in your research, I'll give one vote for Dell. (They also have dedicated forums for issues that may arise). Bill W. *** Best of luck in your research, I'll give one vote for Dell. (They also have dedicated forums for issues that may arise). Hoyt *** Dell needed a good word. I was about to place them with gateway. Dell has also recently anounced two linux corporate workstations in their inventory. I can't afford one but at
[newbie] Laptop choice
Hi List, Looking at IBM laptops I see the following..for processors.. Intel p4.. various speeds. celerion.. various speeds. centrino.. various speeds. The centrino seem to be the slower one than the other two. Do not mind price .. hardware .. trying to find what would be best in long run between the 3 processors. Kindly some pointers and suggestions to IBM laptops .. please. I will be crossing that bridge very soon. Thanks -- Johan Sch Registered Linux User #330034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
Johan Sch wrote: Hi List, Looking at IBM laptops I see the following..for processors.. Intel p4.. various speeds. celerion.. various speeds. centrino.. various speeds. The centrino seem to be the slower one than the other two. Do not mind price .. hardware .. trying to find what would be best in long run between the 3 processors. Kindly some pointers and suggestions to IBM laptops .. please. I will be crossing that bridge very soon. Thanks Johan; There's a lot of things to consider when buying a laptop. My personal preference is a laptop that can handle a normal P4, and NOT a P4M. While this means that it will use battery power faster, most of the time I'm using the laptop, I'm plugged in to AC power somewhere. P4M's (Pentium 4 Mobile CPU's) are OK, but a standard P4 and laptop that uses Hyper-Threading will always outperform a P4M without question. Also, you should be able to upgrade the P4 as new ones come out, and P4's will always be less expensive than the P4M's. One other thing about P4's. Some of the newer P4's also have onboard cache that is one MB, and not 512K. This makes a huge difference in how fast the laptop will run. All that extra performance will keep you happy with the laptop much longer than a Centrino or Celeron could ever hope to do. Celeron CPU's are basically the same as a P4, but have a lot less cache onboard, and this is what makes them slower. Centrino's aren't an actual CPU, but a collection of P4M, Intel Chipset, Intel graphics GPU, and wireless and/or Bluetooth technologies built-in. Once I knew they used the P4M, I never kept looking for more details so you might want to look into that a bit more. I've set up or owned Toshiba, Compaq and Asus laptops. My problem is that my clients see whichever one I have and offer to buy them right there! The next one on my shopping list is the ECS G900 which can be viewed here; http://www.ecsusa.com/products/g900.html And that says it all. I know ECS isn't always known for their quality, but I have to see how this one runs before passing judgement. I'm hoping that it will surprise me. Since laptops are very expensive, most people don't buy new ones very often. My philosophy is to buy the fastest, most powerful one you can buy for the best price, so that your investment lasts a long time. Remember that many laptops will have modems which aren't supported by Linux, and others can be a real pain to set up. If you manage to get a modem working, consider yourself very lucky! If possible, try to find one that comes without an OS, so that you can do a fresh install and not have to worry about a Windows recovery CD set erasing your whole hard drive. HTH Cheers! Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
On Saturday 31 July 2004 06:41 am, Johan Sch wrote: Hi List, Looking at IBM laptops I see the following..for processors.. Intel p4 .. various speeds. celerion .. various speeds. Not as good as equivilent P4, stay away if you can centrino .. various speeds. Really the Pentium-M. Centroni is a brand that means the combination of the processor, chipset and WiFi card. It has a slower clock speed, but more work per cycle a la AMD, giving a cooler chip that uses less power and does the same amount of work. My 1.6GHz Pentium-M compiles a kernel a few seconds faster than my desktop 2400+. Intel's reliance on the Megehertz myth the past few yeares to try and best AMD has cost them with the Pentium-M IMO. The centrino seem to be the slower one than the other two. Do not mind price .. hardware .. trying to find what would be best in long run between the 3 processors. In a laptop, the Pentium-M IMHO. Kindly some pointers and suggestions to IBM laptops .. please. I like the T series the best. A great blend of portability and power. The R's are to big and bulky, and the others are crippled or too small. I will be crossing that bridge very soon. Thanks -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
On Saturday 31 July 2004 14:34, Bill W. wrote: Hi, I would like to put in a good word for Dell laptops. I have used 2 different models. The Inspiron 8000 and the Inspiron 9100. Both are considered heavy at around 8 or 9 pounds. The reason I chose them is that they both are easily setup with Mandrake. I dual boot into both of them. I had minor installation problems, both easily resolved with an email to this list. Another reason that I chose them is that they are both considered gaming machines with dedicated (upgradeable) video cards. No dependence on 'integrated' graphics. The 9100 is new and has a 3.2 Ghz P4 (not mobile). I generally use this machine at two different locations but plugged into power at both. I'm not sure if you have been pointed to the linux laptops page yet, so here's a real good link for that information. http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Best of luck in your research, I'll give one vote for Dell. (They also have dedicated forums for issues that may arise). Dell needed a good word. I was about to place them with gateway. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
On Saturday 31 July 2004 03:41 am, Johan Sch wrote: | Hi List, | | Looking at IBM laptops I see the following..for processors.. | | I've installed 9.2 on a couple of different IBM's, and a friend of mine put 10.0 on one. With 9.2 the laptops had a Savage vid card, and I had to download and install a different driver than the default that came with Mandrake in order to get the proper screen resolution. The Savage may have been fixed in 10, because my friend's laptop also had that card and he didn't mention that he had any problems. Another gotcha is the LinModem, which requires downloading a driver (ltmodem-kv_2.4.22_10mdk-8.26a9-1.i586.rpm). There was a thread on making the 2.4-kernel driver work with 2.6 here during the past week. My friend with 10 has broadband, so he didn't bother with the modem and I have no more info on that. Everything else worked right from the get-go. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
On Saturday 31 July 2004 04:17 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 31 July 2004 14:34, Bill W. wrote: Hi, I would like to put in a good word for Dell laptops. I have used 2 different models. The Inspiron 8000 and the Inspiron 9100. Both are considered heavy at around 8 or 9 pounds. The reason I chose them is that they both are easily setup with Mandrake. I dual boot into both of them. I had minor installation problems, both easily resolved with an email to this list. Another reason that I chose them is that they are both considered gaming machines with dedicated (upgradeable) video cards. No dependence on 'integrated' graphics. The 9100 is new and has a 3.2 Ghz P4 (not mobile). I generally use this machine at two different locations but plugged into power at both. I'm not sure if you have been pointed to the linux laptops page yet, so here's a real good link for that information. http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Best of luck in your research, I'll give one vote for Dell. (They also have dedicated forums for issues that may arise). Dell needed a good word. I was about to place them with gateway. Dell has also recently anounced two linux corporate workstations in their inventory. I can't afford one but at least it is a start. Dell is making a move to include the penquin. -- Dennis M. Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Laptop pcmcia ethernet card not recognized every other boot up
From: Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/06/28 Mon PM 11:44:19 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Laptop pcmcia ethernet card not recognized every other boot up Dennis Myers wrote: Subject says the basic problem, if I have ethernet connection and shut down the laptop (Compaq Presario 1700t ), the next time I boot it I get a message that eth0 is removed. I do a restart and eth0 is recognized and it asks if I want to configure it. Am I shutting down incorrectly ? Or is there a switch or something else I should do? I can understand if I had disconnected the card but It is still in the slot. I have looked all over the man and howtos no idea what is flakey. Thanks for any pointers I bet this is a Cardbus card. The way things are supposed to work is that PCMCIA cards are handled by hotplug, and should not be configured when the system boots up. It should be detected when PCMCIA is started if it is in the slot at boot, or when it is inserted. But it doesn't always work that way... You may want to disable harddrake. This will stop the system from asking about configuring the interface when you boot. You usualy don't need to run it on a laptop anyway. How often does hardware change on a laptop? (Not counting PCMCIA cards, and USB devices. Harddrake isn't supposed to deal with them anyway.) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com That is a good thought, I will give it a go and see what happens. Should have thought of it myself. Thanks Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop pcmcia ethernet card not recognized every other boot up
Subject says the basic problem, if I have ethernet connection and shut down the laptop (Compaq Presario 1700t ), the next time I boot it I get a message that eth0 is removed. I do a restart and eth0 is recognized and it asks if I want to configure it. Am I shutting down incorrectly ? Or is there a switch or something else I should do? I can understand if I had disconnected the card but It is still in the slot. I have looked all over the man and howtos no idea what is flakey. Thanks for any pointers -- Dennis M. Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop and sound(card?).
Hello, If I're being charitable, I'd say that I'm just as likely to be wrong as right, but I think that the sound card on my HP OmniBook 4150 isn't an actual card, but something built-in. The manual which I downloaded from HP doesn't seem to say much about it's removal in any event, and I'm already using the PCMCIA slot, so I'm not sure what else I can do if this card is inoperable with MDK 10.0. I found some relevant information from dmesg, /proc/pci and /etc/modules.conf and include it below. Any comments could hardly fail to elucidate me, and will be greatly appreciated. Some highlights from dmesg (with my comments in square brackets): ACPI disabled because your bios is from 99 and too old You can enable it with acpi=force ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040211 ACPI: Interpreter disabled. [What is this ACPI, and what am I missing?] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay PnPBIOS: Disabled [then, later on...] isapnp: No Plug Play device found [I assume that this means PnP support, or the lack thereof, is irrelevant, but I include it for completeness, and to highlight my ignorance] PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX/ICH [8086/7110] at :00:07.0 [see below for /proc/pci info on these] PCI: IRQ 0 for device :00:04.0 doesn't match PIRQ mask - try pci=usepirqmask PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device :00:04.0 PCI: IRQ 0 for device :00:04.1 doesn't match PIRQ mask - try pci=usepirqmask PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device :00:04.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with :01:00.1 [Then, later on...] PCI: Enabling device :00:07.2 ( - 0001) PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device :00:07.2 [and, later still...] PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device :00:04.0 Yenta: CardBus bridge found at :00:04.0 [103c:0007] Yenta: Enabling burst memory read transactions Yenta: Using CSCINT to route CSC interrupts to PCI Yenta: Routing CardBus interrupts to PCI Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0898, PCI irq 10 Socket status: 3020 PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device :00:04.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with :01:00.1 Yenta: CardBus bridge found at :00:04.1 [103c:0007] Yenta: Using CSCINT to route CSC interrupts to PCI Yenta: Routing CardBus interrupts to PCI Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0898, PCI irq 10 Socket status: 3006 PCI: Enabling device :02:00.0 ( - 0003) PCI: Setting latency timer of device :02:00.0 to 64 eth0: Xircom Cardbus Adapter rev 3 at 0x4000, 00:10:A4:FB:72:98, IRQ 10. eth0: MII transceiver #0 config 3100 status 7809 advertising 01e1. PCI: Enabling device :02:00.1 ( - 0003) ttyS4 at I/O 0x4080 (irq = 10) is a 16550A [the piece de resistance...] PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device :01:00.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with :00:04.1 nm256: no ac97 is found! force the driver to load by passing in the module parameter force_ac97=1 or try sb16 or cs423x drivers instead. NeoMagic 256: probe of :01:00.1 failed with error -6 Some further information: Yenta, is a module for the PCMCIA card (I think). /etc/modules.conf says: probeall usb-interface usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 snd-nm256 above snd-nm256 snd-pcm-oss above snd-sb16 snd-pcm-oss options nm256_audio force_load=ac97=1 alias eth0 xircom_tulip_cb Now for the promised /proc/pci highlights: Bus 0, device 4, function 0: CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1220 (rev 2). IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=168. Max Lat=5. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x1000 [0x1fff]. Bus 0, device 4, function 1: CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1220 (#2) (rev 2). IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=168. Min Gnt=192.Max Lat=5. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x10001000 [0x10001fff]. Bus 0, device 7, function 0: Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 2). Bus 0, device 7, function 2: USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 1). IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=64. I/O at 0xfcc0 [0xfcdf]. Bus 1, device 0, function 1: Multimedia audio controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2200 [MagicMedia 256AV Audio] (rev 18). IRQ 10. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfe00 [0xfe3f]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfe70 [0xfe7f]. Bus 2, device 0, function 0: Ethernet controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 (rev 3). IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=20.Max Lat=40. I/O at 0x4000 [0x407f]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x1080 [0x108007ff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x10800800 [0x10800fff]. Bus 2, device 0, function 1: Serial controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet + 56k Modem (rev 3). IRQ 10. I/O at 0x4080 [0x4087]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x10801000 [0x108017ff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x10801800 [0x10801fff]. Some questions. Is it alright for all these things to have
RE: [newbie] Laptop choice
Thanks Mikkel, I see that there is a RPM for the modem on Mandrake Club, but I am not a member so didn't look further. I am not a club member because it is too difficult to transfer money overseas [ credit card is not an option ] and being on very slow dialup, unable to download anything much, at all. So I am stymied till we in the bush of Australia also become a first world nation. But thanks for that information. Charlie For the 2.4.x kernels, try: http://www.zisos.com/linux/linux.html Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
On Sunday 06 June 2004 02:32 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 04:36 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Acer 1350, with 9.2, can't get the winmodem to work, because I don't | have the kernel source. | | Depending on the winmodem, you may not need the kernel source. There | are RPMs out with the modules compiled for different kernels, as well as | modules that are set up to work with kernel familys, instead of | different kernels. | | I am using a winmodem on my Thinkpad with a stock kernel, and a driver | from an add-on RPM. | | Mikkel | | Thanks Mikkel, This is the driver I used on an IBM T28 with 9.2--worked great. Do a Google search for it. ltmodem-kv_2.4.22_10mdk-8.26a9-1.i586 Can't remember where I got it, or if I needed the kernel-source, but I'm not a club member either, so it was somewhere else. It is 3.9GB, so I suppose I could e-mail it to you if you can't find it anywhere. I'm on dial-up also, so it would take a while to upload/download. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 07:21 am, Erylon Hines wrote: On Sunday 06 June 2004 02:32 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 04:36 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Acer 1350, with 9.2, can't get the winmodem to work, because I don't | have the kernel source. | | Depending on the winmodem, you may not need the kernel source. There | are RPMs out with the modules compiled for different kernels, as well | as modules that are set up to work with kernel familys, instead of | different kernels. | | I am using a winmodem on my Thinkpad with a stock kernel, and a driver | from an add-on RPM. | | Mikkel | | Thanks Mikkel, This is the driver I used on an IBM T28 with 9.2--worked great. Do a Google search for it. ltmodem-kv_2.4.22_10mdk-8.26a9-1.i586 Can't remember where I got it, or if I needed the kernel-source, but I'm not a club member either, so it was somewhere else. It is 3.9GB, so I suppose I could e-mail it to you if you can't find it anywhere. I'm on dial-up also, so it would take a while to upload/download. e Thanks Erylon, I will seek it out. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- The knowledge of an unlearned man is living and luxuriant like a forest, but covered with mosses and lichens and for the most part inaccessible and going to waste; the knowledge of the man of science is like timber collected in yards for public works, which still supports a green sprout here and there, but even this is liable to dry rot. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Experience what others using Mandrake Linux have experienced at:- http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 06:49 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Thanks Mikkel, I see that there is a RPM for the modem on Mandrake Club, but I am not a member so didn't look further. I am not a club member because it is too difficult to transfer money overseas [ credit card is not an option ] and being on very slow dialup, unable to download anything much, at all. So I am stymied till we in the bush of Australia also become a first world nation. But thanks for that information. Charlie For the 2.4.x kernels, try: http://www.zisos.com/linux/linux.html Mikkel Am looking at it now, thank you again. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- Water is the only drink for a wise man. ...Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Experience what others using Mandrake Linux have experienced at:- http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop choice
Thanks to all that responded. Be looking into the references. -- Johan Registered Linux User #330034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop choice - REPORT
Hi, Here are some snippets from various mail lists that I asked for a laptop choice. I had good responses. Trust this may be of help to some.. ** I'm dual-booting win XP and various Linux distros using FAT32, getting online and burning CDs on a Dell Inspiron 8500 and am very happy with it. ** My DELL Latitude C840 installed Mdk10 without any problems. Runs great. ** Yes, I have a T41 that works great with 10.0. ** If I was realistic I would use a Dell Inspiron 9100.. I have always bought dell laptops and never had any problems with running *nix on them. If I was dreaming then http://www.go-l.com/laptops/hollywood_gold/features/index.htm Would win hands down ;-) ** I would also go for the Dell option. VERY linux friendly. ** I love my IBM Thinkpad X31. It does very well with SuSE 9.1 on it. ** I got my laptop from http://www.powernotebooks.com/ and have been pleased with it. I'm running SuSE 9.0 Professional. ** These websites should give you a better approach: http://www.tuxmobil.org http://www.linux-laptop.net/ ** Have a look on www.linux-on-laptops.com ** My elcheapo Dell 1100 works fine on 10.0. ** I have a Compaq Presario that works like a champ with ML10. ** As everyone knows, all decent laptops are made by Tadpole... http://www.tadpolecomputer.com/html/ (No alphabook anymore though :-( ) ** Here are some sites that might help: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ http://tuxmobil.org/ ** I love the IBM T41 to death. I'm so happy with it that I'd buy another 10 if I had the money. You can see more info at http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=2072693storeId=1catalogId=-840langId=-1 ** Of course you can avoid the whole ACPI mess if you can find a laptop with a working Linux APM implementation. The Toshiba laptops are always a good start (just make sure your laptop works with the toshiba utilities). Some of my Toshiba links: http://linux.toshiba-dme.co.jp/linux/eng/installinfo.htm http://newsletter.toshiba-tro.de/main/index.html http://www.buzzard.org.uk/toshiba/ http://www.linux-laptop.net/ I'd say the two most important things to watch out for on a laptop: (a) Power Management Check ACPI or APM support, Suspend to disk, support for the fans / battery monitoring. Check whether the motherboard chipset has I2C and/or SMBus support. Watch out for IBM Thinkpads and I2C problems. (b) Display Card Avoid Trident like the plague. Also avoid SiS, etc. Make sure your display card works with Linux and that it has X support with an accelerated driver. Be wary of the latest display chipsets (e.g. Intel 8xx chipsets, etc). Watch out for cards without onboard display memory, e.g. Intel's chipsets. If the cards memory is shared with the system memory, make sure that the BIOS supports a mode where you can select at least as much display memory as you require to display an entire framebuffer + maintain some page tables. 1MB is not enough! If you can choose a decent display card. That means one of two: - ATI Radeon series - NVidia (anything) With the ATI cards, check if Tungsten Graphics supports the drivers. They wrote the whole Radeon driver + support code. If they don't support it and/or the display chipset haven't been around for 12 months or so, you're in for a nasty surprise or two. ** Make sure that the one you chose has ACPI working. ACPI is a total mess - every laptop bios has a different implementation, and it's almost impossible to fix it yourself. Check here: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/index.html If your laptop has ACPI broken, you fix it by linking a custom DSDT table into your kernel. If there is a fixed one available for your model it's great, but if there isn't you're on your own. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, ACPI is the interface to battery status, fan status, temperature, lid switch, power switch, etc. ** I'm ready to give rave notices to the mdk crew for 10.0 on a Dell 1100. Have no idea where yours compares, but I have all good to report on this one. ** Thanks to every one involved. Regards -- Johan Registered Linux User #330034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Acer 1350, with 9.2, can't get the winmodem to work, because I don't have the kernel source. Depending on the winmodem, you may not need the kernel source. There are RPMs out with the modules compiled for different kernels, as well as modules that are set up to work with kernel familys, instead of different kernels. I am using a winmodem on my Thinkpad with a stock kernel, and a driver from an add-on RPM. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop choice
Hi laptop users, Please .. if you should have the chance to a buy a new laptop..what make..model..etc..would be top of your list. This is for linux use..like mandrake..suse. It was suggested to me that IBM laptops are ..very..linux friendly? Thanks -- Johan Registered Linux User #330034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
On Friday 04 June 2004 08:10 am, Johan Sch wrote: It was suggested to me that IBM laptops are ..very..linux friendly? Yes, I have a T41 that works great with 10.0. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
From: Johan Sch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/06/04 Fri AM 08:10:16 EDT To: [Newbie] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Laptop choice Hi laptop users, Please .. if you should have the chance to a buy a new laptop..what make..model..etc..would be top of your list. This is for linux use..like mandrake..suse. It was suggested to me that IBM laptops are ..very..linux friendly? Thanks -- Johan Registered Linux User #330034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I have a Compaq Presario that works like a champ with ML10. Only I have not tried to use the onboard modem as I have a cable connection and use the PCMCIA slot for NIC card. HTH Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 8:36:36 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Johan Sch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/06/04 Fri AM 08:10:16 EDT To: [Newbie] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Laptop choice Hi laptop users, Please .. if you should have the chance to a buy a new laptop..what make..model..etc..would be top of your list. This is for linux use..like mandrake..suse. It was suggested to me that IBM laptops are ..very..linux friendly? Thanks -- Johan Registered Linux User #330034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I have a Compaq Presario that works like a champ with ML10. Only I have not tried to use the onboard modem as I have a cable connection and use the PCMCIA slot for NIC card. HTH Dennis M. My elcheapo Dell 1100 works fine on 10.0. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
Please .. if you should have the chance to a buy a new laptop..what make..model..etc..would be top of your list. This is for linux use..like mandrake..suse. My DELL Latitude C840 installed Mdk10 without any problems. Runs great. David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] laptop won't shut down completley
On June 3, 2004 17:10, Walt Frampus wrote: I have a Compaq Presario 3077wm duel booting winxp and Mandrake 10 official. When I went to shut it down, everything did so normally. A while later, I noticed a light on the laptop was lit and realized that Mandrake rebooted again so I shut it down a second time. I checked it a while later and found the screen blank but when I hit the enter button, mandrake was still running. I had to reboot into windows (which I never use) to get the laptop to shut down. I turned off all the power controls and still have the problem. My desktop shuts down with no problem. Anyone else having this problem? Is it just a version 10 problem? I didn't have this problem with 9.2. Walt My desktop computer (an ancient Dell) won't power down properly. It goes through the whole shutdown process, but the power stays on. Worse, although I can hit the reset button to reboot, the power switch doesn't work! Apparently, it's not a real (physical) power switch, it just sends a signal to shut the power off, but Linux doesn't recognize this signal (or something like that; it worked with Windoze, so I'm just guessing here). If I want to power off, I have to actually pull the power plug! Fortunately, I don't power off very often (usually only during lightning storms or vacations), so I haven't bothered trying to fix it. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] laptop won't shut down completley
Try holding the power button down for over 8 seconds and see if it shuts down. I've yet to come across a Dell that this didn't work for Ed Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On June 3, 2004 17:10, Walt Frampus wrote: I have a Compaq Presario 3077wm duel booting winxp and Mandrake 10 official. When I went to shut it down, everything did so normally. A while later, I noticed a light on the laptop was lit and realized that Mandrake rebooted again so I shut it down a second time. I checked it a while later and found the screen blank but when I hit the enter button, mandrake was still running. I had to reboot into windows (which I never use) to get the laptop to shut down. I turned off all the power controls and still have the problem. My desktop shuts down with no problem. Anyone else having this problem? Is it just a version 10 problem? I didn't have this problem with 9.2. Walt My desktop computer (an ancient Dell) won't power down properly. It goes through the whole shutdown process, but the power stays on. Worse, although I can hit the reset button to reboot, the power switch doesn't work! Apparently, it's not a real (physical) power switch, it just sends a signal to shut the power off, but Linux doesn't recognize this signal (or something like that; it worked with Windoze, so I'm just guessing here). If I want to power off, I have to actually pull the power plug! Fortunately, I don't power off very often (usually only during lightning storms or vacations), so I haven't bothered trying to fix it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop choice
On Friday 04 June 2004 05:00 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 8:36:36 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Johan Sch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/06/04 Fri AM 08:10:16 EDT To: [Newbie] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Laptop choice Hi laptop users, Please .. if you should have the chance to a buy a new laptop..what make..model..etc..would be top of your list. This is for linux use..like mandrake..suse. It was suggested to me that IBM laptops are ..very..linux friendly? Thanks -- Johan Registered Linux User #330034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I have a Compaq Presario that works like a champ with ML10. Only I have not tried to use the onboard modem as I have a cable connection and use the PCMCIA slot for NIC card. HTH Dennis M. My elcheapo Dell 1100 works fine on 10.0. Lee John, Have had no problem with Toshibas (Tecra and Satelite). If you look on the list their are several issues that hunt laptop users: 1. Video 2. Sound 3. Shut down. I had no problem with them on toshibas. Go to http://www.linux-laptop.net/. It is a helpfull place with setting laptop. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] laptop won't shut down completley
I have a Compaq Presario 3077wm duel booting winxp and Mandrake 10 official. When I went to shut it down, everything did so normally. A while later, I noticed a light on the laptop was lit and realized that Mandrake rebooted again so I shut it down a second time. I checked it a while later and found the screen blank but when I hit the enter button, mandrake was still running. I had to reboot into windows (which I never use) to get the laptop to shut down. I turned off all the power controls and still have the problem. My desktop shuts down with no problem. Anyone else having this problem? Is it just a version 10 problem? I didn't have this problem with 9.2. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] laptop won't shut down completley
On Thursday 03 June 2004 06:10 pm, Walt Frampus wrote: I have a Compaq Presario 3077wm duel booting winxp and Mandrake 10 official. When I went to shut it down, everything did so normally. A while later, I noticed a light on the laptop was lit and realized that Mandrake rebooted again so I shut it down a second time. I checked it a while later and found the screen blank but when I hit the enter button, mandrake was still running. I had to reboot into windows (which I never use) to get the laptop to shut down. I turned off all the power controls and still have the problem. My desktop shuts down with no problem. Anyone else having this problem? Is it just a version 10 problem? I didn't have this problem with 9.2. Walt I have a Presario 1700T which will go to power down and sit. I have to hold the button down for 4 secs to power off. I believe it is a function of the mobo and you may have to disable ACPI or APM. Not sure, what about anyone else? Dennis M. Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] laptop won't shut down completley
Dennis Myers wrote: On Thursday 03 June 2004 06:10 pm, Walt Frampus wrote: I have a Compaq Presario 3077wm duel booting winxp and Mandrake 10 official. When I went to shut it down, everything did so normally. A while later, I noticed a light on the laptop was lit and realized that Mandrake rebooted again so I shut it down a second time. I checked it a while later and found the screen blank but when I hit the enter button, mandrake was still running. I had to reboot into windows (which I never use) to get the laptop to shut down. I turned off all the power controls and still have the problem. My desktop shuts down with no problem. Anyone else having this problem? Is it just a version 10 problem? I didn't have this problem with 9.2. Walt I have a Presario 1700T which will go to power down and sit. I have to hold the button down for 4 secs to power off. I believe it is a function of the mobo and you may have to disable ACPI or APM. Not sure, what about anyone else? Dennis M. Linux user #180842 No problems with shutdown here (now, anyway, though there were before the 2.6.x series of kernels) running 10CE (now 10.1 Cooker) on this Compaq Presario 2175US. Previously, I'd sit at Power Down, as well. Kernel is 2.6.3-9 (though it worked with earlier in the 2.6 series, too), and have Enable ACPI and Force No Local APIC (nolapic in lilo) checked in the boot loader GUI. (If that works for you with respect to shutdown, maybe you can figure out how to get my 3D/OpenGL running ... or a functional Shockwave plug-in for my Mozilla Firefox. :-) Those are _my_ annoyances right now. LOL.) :) -- Chuck MATTSEN / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Mahnomen, MN / RLU #346519 Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-9mdk 18:30:00 up 1:58, 2 users, load average: 0.98, 0.34, 0.17 Random Thought/Quote for this Message: Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first and the lesson afterward. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] laptop won't shut down completley
On Thursday 03 June 2004 07:27 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Thursday 03 June 2004 06:10 pm, Walt Frampus wrote: I have a Compaq Presario 3077wm duel booting winxp and Mandrake 10 official. When I went to shut it down, everything did so normally. A while later, I noticed a light on the laptop was lit and realized that Mandrake rebooted again so I shut it down a second time. I checked it a while later and found the screen blank but when I hit the enter button, mandrake was still running. I had to reboot into windows (which I never use) to get the laptop to shut down. I turned off all the power controls and still have the problem. My desktop shuts down with no problem. Anyone else having this problem? Is it just a version 10 problem? I didn't have this problem with 9.2. Walt I have a Presario 1700T which will go to power down and sit. I have to hold the button down for 4 secs to power off. I believe it is a function of the mobo and you may have to disable ACPI or APM. Not sure, what about anyone else? Starting your kernel with the nolapic parameter should stop this behavior. Add it to the append line in /etc/lilo.conf and then run lilo as root. After next reboot, the shutdown should work properly. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop, Mdk 10.0 and external monitor
Hi, I have Mdk10.0 running on my ASUS M2400N laptop. I would like to connect an external lcd monitor running at 1280x1024. The internal lcd panel is 1024x768. I can switch between internal, external and both monitors using the Fn key on my laptop and via acpi. Is it possible to configure X to use different resolutions on the two monitors ? - and if: How ? It does not have to be at the same time I know it can be done using two XF86Config-4 files, but I would like it to happen automatically (even without the ctrl-altc-+/- switch.. Regards Mads Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop
Hi, I am due to buy a laptop computer, but I know that linux mandrake (and probably other distros as well) have problems working on certain laptops. Do you have any suggestion about which model I should buy? Thanks, Marco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 17:36, Marco Terzuoli wrote: Hi, I am due to buy a laptop computer, but I know that linux mandrake (and probably other distros as well) have problems working on certain laptops. Do you have any suggestion about which model I should buy? Thanks, Marco You might want to check out these sites for advice/recommendations/howtos, etc. http://www.linux-laptop.net/ http://www.tuxmobil.org/howtos.html -- Paul M. _ In the beginning, man created god. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop
PM wrote: On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 17:36, Marco Terzuoli wrote: Hi, I am due to buy a laptop computer, but I know that linux mandrake (and probably other distros as well) have problems working on certain laptops. Do you have any suggestion about which model I should buy? Thanks, Marco I have a Dell Inspiron 5150, its cheap, fast, has an inbuilt 64MB Geforce FX5200, a 1600x1200 display, a 60gig hard disk and a DVD burner.. Runs mandrake perfectly. I even got the wireless 802.11g truemobile 1300 wireless card working flawlessly with ndiswrapper.. With the exception that I would really love a ATI 9700 in it, I am very happy which this machine. Dell now has an Inspiron 9100 that is selling for the same price I paid for my 5150, its better in nearly every way. (except size.) -- rgds Frank Hauptle (aka Franki) For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com Free web developer resources. Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop
frankieh wrote: PM wrote: On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 17:36, Marco Terzuoli wrote: Hi, I am due to buy a laptop computer, but I know that linux mandrake (and probably other distros as well) have problems working on certain laptops. Do you have any suggestion about which model I should buy? Thanks, Marco I have a Dell Inspiron 5150, its cheap, fast, has an inbuilt 64MB Geforce FX5200, a 1600x1200 display, a 60gig hard disk and a DVD burner.. Runs mandrake perfectly. I even got the wireless 802.11g truemobile 1300 wireless card working flawlessly with ndiswrapper.. With the exception that I would really love a ATI 9700 in it, I am very happy which this machine. Dell now has an Inspiron 9100 that is selling for the same price I paid for my 5150, its better in nearly every way. (except size.) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Hi Mate Using dell Inspiron 4000, Rage mobility gfx card, cdwriter, wireless netgear 401ra pcmcia card, PIII 700 runing MDK9.1 runs a treat. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop
Hi people! My one is Compaq presario 2815. I have run Mandrake 9.1 for about one year since last April, I don't encounter any problem. I guess what you need to do is, just buy a new one and then install Mandrake (maybe) 10. You will not find any problem. QingHua Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:36:11 +0200 Marco Terzuoli wrote: Hi, I am due to buy a laptop computer, but I know that linux mandrake (and probably other distros as well) have problems working on certain laptops. Do you have any suggestion about which model I should buy? Thanks, Marco Using a Gateway 400 SP for about 7 months now. Still have occassional hiccups and problems with drivers for my graphics chipset. It works, but I would not recommend it. Also, please change your reply to. http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette -- Job Evers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)
I've been looking at some laptop/notebook stuff, and was just wondering about Dells stuff. My wife says we can swing one around tax time grin. Does it work pretty good with Mandrake? If you had to choose, would you pick Intel Xtreme, ATI mobility, or Nvidias' NForce? (and why?) Thanks all! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)
Ronald wrote: I've been looking at some laptop/notebook stuff, and was just wondering about Dells stuff. My wife says we can swing one around tax time grin. Does it work pretty good with Mandrake? I have never had problems with _older_ Dell machines (Latitudes and Inspirons) and Mandrake, unlike some other laptop brands; 9.2 installed out of the box on my C610. If you had to choose, would you pick Intel Xtreme, ATI mobility, or Nvidias' NForce? (and why?) To be honest, there is little difference in performance and features. What might swing it is the driver support which, in my experience, is (in descending order of quality): NVIDIA ATI Intel Alastair This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)
You might also want to check out a site called linuxonlaptops.com or something like that. I'm not sure about the exact email address as I don't have a laptop sadly. But I would love to get one to load Linux on. I write tutorials for installing Linux to help out. I can't program so I cant write open code, so I do my part by making Linux easier for people who are new to it. I'v written install tutorials for Slackware 9.1, SuSE 8.1, and Libranet, which is a Debian based distro. I plan on doing Mandrake when I get my other box back, which is hopefully in the next few days. I also take requests :) Sorry I'm rambling on lol. It's almost 10 AM and I'm still awake. If you want to see any tutorials I'v done, or want to ask me for a request to write a Linux install tutorial, just mail me :) I won't do Gentoo as I don't like them. I know how the install goes, but I just don't like them. Also it would be hard to make a good easy to understand tutorial for a newbie when you have alot of choices for install. My tutorials usually go step by step, to make it easy. :) -- __ We Are 138 http://www.suse.com http://www.slackware.org http://www.bsd.org http://www.daemonnews.org/ http://www.cannibalholocaust.net http://www.misfits.com http://www.onethirtyeight.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)
On Monday 09 February 2004 09:51 am, Alastair Scott wrote: -To be honest, there is little difference in performance and features. -What might swing it is the driver support which, in my experience, is -(in descending order of quality): - -NVIDIA -ATI -Intel - -Alastair Thanks for the reply. I was wondering about 3D accelerated stuff with the above chipsets. I should have made that clearer in the original post. I know that normally Nvidia is great, but the Dell models I'm looking at have the NForce chipset and I hear thats problematic sometimes. I was really unsure if 3D stuff worked with ATI mobility or the Intel Xtreme setups. Thanks! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Monday 09 February 2004 09:51 am, Alastair Scott wrote: -To be honest, there is little difference in performance and features. -What might swing it is the driver support which, in my experience, is -(in descending order of quality): - -NVIDIA -ATI -Intel - -Alastair Thanks for the reply. I was wondering about 3D accelerated stuff with the above chipsets. I should have made that clearer in the original post. I know that normally Nvidia is great, but the Dell models I'm looking at have the NForce chipset and I hear thats problematic sometimes. I was really unsure if 3D stuff worked with ATI mobility or the Intel Xtreme setups. Thanks! :-) Nforce is an AMD chipset.. Last time I checked, dell did not sell any AMD systems at all... I have a Dell 5150, and I have the nvidia driver working fine on mdk9.2 for its 64mb Geforce FX5200. I have sound, I have wireless, in fact I have pretty much everything bar the dumbass modem that has no modern driver. rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 12:34 am, frankieh wrote: -Nforce is an AMD chipset.. - -Last time I checked, dell did not sell any AMD systems at all... - -I have a Dell 5150, and I have the nvidia driver working fine on mdk9.2 -for its 64mb Geforce FX5200. -I have sound, I have wireless, in fact I have pretty much everything bar -the dumbass modem that has no modern driver. - -rgds - -Franki My bad, thanks for the info/update/reply! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Laptop X/different configs
I set up 9.2 on an IBM T40, which has an ATI Radeon 7500 and in internal LCD at 1024x768. At the time I set it up, I had an external keyboard (with a built-in trackpoint AND trackpad), mouse and 1280x1024 monitor attached through a port replicator. Setup correctly detected and configured the external devices. However, when I boot the machine without being attached to the port replicator, X still presents the 1280x1024 desktop (only the upper-right 1024x768 pixels) and the internal pointing devices (a trackpoint and a trackpad) are non-responsive. How do I configure X (4.3) so that it autodetects whether the external monitor and pointing devices are attached and sets the video output appropriately? TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop memory not recognized
On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 06:15, Noah A Hicks wrote: Thanks all for the input After messing around with the BIOS it seems apparent that my problem is located there. After turning off quiet boot I could observe the system checking the memory up to 127mb passed ok. The memory setting in the bios does not allow me to change the value (ie it just displays the number) Is there any way to force the BIOS to recognize my 256mb chip? Thanks -Noah Hate to say this, but if BIOS ain't seeing it, you can TRY to update your BIOS, but chances are that it ain't going to see the RAM. The issue might actually be that the RAM you are putting in is either a different speed or it could be double sided whereas your current RAM is single sided - or vice versa... Try booting the machine with only the new RAM and see if it's recognised...if not, then, well, um, you're shafted. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- panic(mother...); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/drivers/block/cpqarray.c Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop memory not recognized
On Saturday September 13 2003 03:15 pm, Noah A Hicks wrote: Thanks all for the input After messing around with the BIOS it seems apparent that my problem is located there. After turning off quiet boot I could observe the system checking the memory up to 127mb passed ok. The memory setting in the bios does not allow me to change the value (ie it just displays the number) Is there any way to force the BIOS to recognize my 256mb chip? Thanks -Noah Noah, I've long wondered. I install additional, ram, but on boot even the bios doesn't see it. Made sure it was seated properly, the clips snapped into position the first time. Still no go. Take it out an redo the whole deal presto, added ram on boot. Blame it on gremlins ;) Either that or motherboards, try changin the order or the ram sticks around in the slots. Usually what works best is to put the best ram in slot1, then slot2, an so on. I had a board some time ago that didn't like this arrangment tho. Slot1 empty, slot2, then slot 3, slot4 worked fine tho. That said, FedEx has another 256MB Corsair stick on it's way to me, so I hope I remember this advice ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Laptop memory not recognized
I just purchased a 256mb memory chip from ebay, physically installed in my laptop and booted the computer. When I run the system monitor it still showes exactly the same amount (128mb). Is there a way to fix this? My hardware is as follows: Dell Latitude LS 400 PIII 400Mhz Thanks alot -Noah Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop memory not recognized
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 12, 2003 02:19 pm, Noah A Hicks wrote: I just purchased a 256mb memory chip from ebay, physically installed in my laptop and booted the computer. When I run the system monitor it still showes exactly the same amount (128mb). Is there a way to fix this? My hardware is as follows: Dell Latitude LS 400 PIII 400Mhz Thanks alot -Noah Noah, does your BIOS see it during POST? If not that's where you need to start. If it does and you're still having trouble with the system not recognizing it, at the lilo boot screen hit Esc and type linux mem=the corrected amount and try that. It should work. I hope. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-8mdk 14:29:44 up 2:39, 1 user, load average: 1.28, 0.43, 0.21 Win98 error 002: Insufficient diskspace. You need at least 300 GB free memory. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Yi2KG11CaRuZZSIRArvTAJ4tCp9cMrlUHdvZKW/ZoLu3RM9A3QCeI639 K/c6yPzVbWlOBf+9ytuLLqU= =Fjj6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop memory not recognized
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:19:29 -0500 (CDT) Noah A Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: I just purchased a 256mb memory chip from ebay, physically installed in my laptop and booted the computer. When I run the system monitor it still showes exactly the same amount (128mb). Is there a way to fix this? My hardware is as follows: Dell Latitude LS 400 PIII 400Mhz Did you remove the 128 and put the 256 in that slot, then add the 128??? Humor an old man and give that a try if you didn't do it that way. HTH, Mike -- The man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life --Muhammad Ali Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] laptop install problems
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:41:42 -0400 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Some of us with older hardware might not be able to boot from cd. I don't know if it's a function of BIOS or cd drive or both, but I know mine won't boot from cd. Especially Comcrap, from personal experience. You can't even get into the BIOS without special software in some cases... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Given a choice between grief and nothing, I'd choose grief. -- William Faulkner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] laptop install problems
Hi, I've just downloaded the mandrake 9.1 ISO's, and I now want to install onto a compaq armarda laptop. I'm having problems because I can't boot from cd's, and the cd drive is interchangeable with the floppy drive. If I try to boot from the floppy, then switch drives, the cd drive isn't recognised. I don't really want to copy the iso's to my hard drive and install from there as i want to get rid of windows completely on the laptop. I read somewhere that there was a way to make my hard disk bootable, then browse to the cd and install from there, but I couldn't find any clear instructions on how to do this - can anyone tell me how this is done? Otherwise, I can try installing over the network? Is it possible for me to put the install cd in another machine in my house (all running win XP, with static ip's) and install it over the network? I tried this just now, but couldn't work out how to do it - does anyone know if this is a possibility? tia, Claire Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] laptop from Hell Part 2
O.K. Last week I installed 9.1 on a firends Compaq Presario 905us. After installing expert with the Linux noauto nomce noisapnp switches I actually got the install to complete, and everything worked but usb and the Realtek 8139 card. After getting random crashes I added to the lilo.conf's append line ide=nodma and the crashes during normal use went away. After choosing the Realtektoo mod, the Realtek works now, but usb is still a no go. Additionally, the dvd-rom is seen as an Atapi CD-Rom, so some of its functions don't work either. USB is the hangup right now, and it is a serious one. I can do a modprobe usbcore, modprobe usb-ohci, and modprobe usb-storage. No errors, and the modules appear to be inserted, but shortly after and KDE locks up hard, requiring an alt/sysrq/X. Error messages in the logs are non-existent for this crash, but on screen during the sysrq sequence, I see I/O error, dev 03:05 (hda), sector 5775824 INIT: cannot execute sbin/shutdown alt/sysrq/b is the only way out, and reboot always results in an operating sytem not found error. A cold reboot brings the return of lilo. Boot errors are limited to PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:10:0 Anyone know what this is? Another is Boot Imige: /dev/hda1 ide/host 0/bus 0/target0/lun0/part1 Fatal:Kernel doesn't support initial RAM disks Is this a scsi emu error associated with the DVD ROM? Should I recompile and be certain scsi emu is built-into the kernel? Also EXT3-fs error (device ide0 (3,5) in start_transaction: Journal has aborted : Read failure inode=372431 block=755259 No clue here-can anyone help? I think the problem is the ALI chipset in this machine. It doesn't appear to be fully supported, (ALI Northbridge caution message at begining of boot) and the USB is a nightmare. I tried booting a known working Knoppix disk, and it wouldn't boot. I didn't try any of the boot switches, though, because Knoppix obviously didn't like this piece of crap either. Any help at all would be appreciated. BTW, W2K runs fine, but XP crashed randomly on this machine, according to the owner--hence the reformat and install of W2K. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
