Re: [newbie] Why does ps shows uid for dbus-daemon-1, but user name for all other processes?

2005-02-20 Thread Stuart R. Fuller
On Sunday 20 February 2005 4:33 pm, Michael Woinoski wrote:
 On Mandrake 10.1 Community, when I run ps -ef, the UID column shows the
 user name for the owner of all processes except the dbus-daemon-1 process
 owned by uid 72. The line for that process shows the numeric uid instead of
 the user name. /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and /etc/group all have an entry
 for a user named messagebus with uid 72. Why doesn't ps display the user
 name for this process?

messagebus is actually somewhat of an invalid username in that it is longer 
than 8 characters.  So, it won't fit into the space on the ps output line.


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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-31 Thread Graham Watkins
Alexander Ruoff wrote:
I'm running 224Mb ram which I would have thougbt was enough. Although 
vid memory is probably a bit light at 16Mb

Hi Graham,
since the OO problem is solved I just got one question... you got a 16
MB graphic card (which shouldn't be a problem... used 8 MB and 16 MB
until very recently with both 9.2 and 10.0) or do you have one of the
intel extrem graphic cards? There you can change it in the bios and even
if the max. is 16 in the bios setting, the card can use the full 32 or
64 MB as fare as I know. 

If I am wrong 'bout this info, please correct me ;)
Alex
Hi Alex,
I've got an onboard graphics card SiS530 3D PCI/AGP which borrows memory 
off the board. Although I believe it can be adjusted in the bios, the 
mobo documentation stipulates 16Mb as the recommended maximum.  So its 
probably safest to leave it alone.  I hope to do some serious upgrading 
fairly soon anyway.

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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-29 Thread Graham Watkins
Miark wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:22:04 +0100, Graham wrote:

It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small 
alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box 
on it.

Blow away your .openoffice directory and that'll probably fix it:
rm -rf ~/.openoffice
Miark

Been there, done that and it does seem to be opening up a lot faster 
now. Printing quicker too. I'll see how it goes from now on.

Thanks for all the advice folks.
Dunno where I'd be without this list.

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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-29 Thread Alexander Ruoff

 I'm running 224Mb ram which I would have thougbt was enough. Although 
 vid memory is probably a bit light at 16Mb

Hi Graham,

since the OO problem is solved I just got one question... you got a 16
MB graphic card (which shouldn't be a problem... used 8 MB and 16 MB
until very recently with both 9.2 and 10.0) or do you have one of the
intel extrem graphic cards? There you can change it in the bios and even
if the max. is 16 in the bios setting, the card can use the full 32 or
64 MB as fare as I know. 

If I am wrong 'bout this info, please correct me ;)

Alex



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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 16:22, Graham Watkins wrote:
 Well, why?
 
 In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go 
 at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing.
 
 It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small 
 alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box 
 on it.
 
 Oh, and I can't figure out how to change the default printer settings 
 and right now life's too short to try.
 
 It's just as well I've got Star Office because if all I had to use was 
 OO, I think I'd be forced to spend a lot more time in Windows.  Come to 
 think of it, I might get faster results using Word with Wine.
 
 Is everyone else here having the same experience?
 
 How do you cope?
 
 I'm using it with Mandrake 9.2 and KDE 3.1. on a Pentium III for all the 
 difference it makes. I have no plans to upgrade the software until I get 
 a faster computer.
 
 Cheers

Abiword.

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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread Alexander Ruoff
Am Do, den 28.10.2004 schrieb Graham Watkins um 8:22:
 Well, why?
 
 In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go 
 at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing.
 
 It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small 
 alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box 
 on it.
 
 Oh, and I can't figure out how to change the default printer settings 
 and right now life's too short to try.
 
 It's just as well I've got Star Office because if all I had to use was 
 OO, I think I'd be forced to spend a lot more time in Windows.  Come to 
 think of it, I might get faster results using Word with Wine.
 
 Is everyone else here having the same experience?
 
 How do you cope?
 
 I'm using it with Mandrake 9.2 and KDE 3.1. on a Pentium III for all the 
 difference it makes. I have no plans to upgrade the software until I get 
 a faster computer.
 
 Cheers

How much memory do you have? I used until recently a PIII 450 with 128
MB, MDK 10.0 in the office and OO was slow but it didn't need 15 Minutes
to open a document. 

Now with a Celeron D and 512 MB OO is fast and I see no difference with
my Pentium M and 512 MB. Thus I assume that it's either due to low
memory or there is a problem with your OO installation. Have you tried
to reinstall OO yet?

Alex

PS: Even my really old K6 200 with 112 MB doesn't need 15 mins to open a
file with OO, I just tested it... ('bout 30 secs for 10,7 kb)



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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 28 October 2004 02:22 am, Graham Watkins wrote:
 Well, why?

 In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go
 at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing.

 It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small
 alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box
 on it.

 Oh, and I can't figure out how to change the default printer settings
 and right now life's too short to try.

 It's just as well I've got Star Office because if all I had to use was
 OO, I think I'd be forced to spend a lot more time in Windows.  Come to
 think of it, I might get faster results using Word with Wine.

 Is everyone else here having the same experience?

 How do you cope?

 I'm using it with Mandrake 9.2 and KDE 3.1. on a Pentium III for all the
 difference it makes. I have no plans to upgrade the software until I get
 a faster computer.

 Cheers

What you are experiencing is not normal and sounds like a configuration issue 
of some kind.  Can you make another user on your box and try to start it 
there?  Are you using Mandrake packages of OO.o or the binary installer 
provided by OO.o?
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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread Graham Watkins
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 16:22, Graham Watkins wrote:
Well, why?
In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go 
at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing.

It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small 
alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box 
on it.
(snipped)
Is everyone else here having the same experience?
How do you cope?
(snipped again)

Abiword.
I can see your point but the compatibility with Word is likely to keep 
me looking at OO, SO or . Word ;-)


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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread Graham Watkins
Alexander Ruoff wrote:
Am Do, den 28.10.2004 schrieb Graham Watkins um 8:22:
Well, why?
In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go 
at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing.

(snipped)
Is everyone else here having the same experience?
How do you cope?

(snipped again)

How much memory do you have? I used until recently a PIII 450 with 128
MB, MDK 10.0 in the office and OO was slow but it didn't need 15 Minutes
to open a document. 

Now with a Celeron D and 512 MB OO is fast and I see no difference with
my Pentium M and 512 MB. Thus I assume that it's either due to low
memory or there is a problem with your OO installation. Have you tried
to reinstall OO yet?
Alex
PS: Even my really old K6 200 with 112 MB doesn't need 15 mins to open a
file with OO, I just tested it... ('bout 30 secs for 10,7 kb)
I'm running 224Mb ram which I would have thougbt was enough. Although 
vid memory is probably a bit light at 16Mb


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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread Graham Watkins
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 28 October 2004 02:22 am, Graham Watkins wrote:
Well, why?
In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go
at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing.
(Snipped)
Is everyone else here having the same experience?
How do you cope?
(Snipped again)
What you are experiencing is not normal and sounds like a configuration issue 
of some kind.  Can you make another user on your box and try to start it 
there?  Are you using Mandrake packages of OO.o or the binary installer 
provided by OO.o?

Just tried running under root (yes, I know I shouldn't) and it was much 
faster.  Then tried starting it as me using xfce4 which is less of a 
memory hog - such a slow opening I wondered for a while if it had 
crashed.  Looks like you may have something with the configuration 
problem idea.  I'm using mandrake binaries which came with the original 
installation.

Cheers,


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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread Björn Olsson
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:21:40 +0100
Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greg Meyer wrote:

snip, snip, snip

 Just tried running under root (yes, I know I shouldn't) and it was
 much faster.  Then tried starting it as me using xfce4 which is less
 of a memory hog - such a slow opening I wondered for a while if it had
 crashed.  Looks like you may have something with the configuration 
 problem idea.  I'm using mandrake binaries which came with the
 original installation.
 
 Cheers,


Maybe your pspfontcache-file has grown too big. Google for 
openoffice slow pspfontcache

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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 28 October 2004 03:41 pm, Björn Olsson wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:21:40 +0100

 Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Greg Meyer wrote:

 snip, snip, snip

Never say that to a guy :-D

  Just tried running under root (yes, I know I shouldn't) and it was
  much faster.  Then tried starting it as me using xfce4 which is less
  of a memory hog - such a slow opening I wondered for a while if it had
  crashed.  Looks like you may have something with the configuration
  problem idea.  I'm using mandrake binaries which came with the
  original installation.
 
  Cheers,

 Maybe your pspfontcache-file has grown too big. Google for
 openoffice slow pspfontcache

You could also try removing or renaming your ~/.openoffice directory and let 
it be recreated.
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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 03:45, Graham Watkins wrote:
  
  Abiword.
  
 I can see your point but the compatibility with Word is likely to keep 
 me looking at OO, SO or . Word ;-)

What I do - when I have to use OO, is to open up one instance of it, and
then minimise it - then when I have to open a document or OOW again,
it's heaps faster - but then again, I have tweaked and tuned my machine
and HD settings, and have 892mb of RAM and have updated all the packages
religiously...

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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 04:21, Graham Watkins wrote:

 Just tried running under root (yes, I know I shouldn't) and it was much 
 faster.  Then tried starting it as me using xfce4 which is less of a 
 memory hog - such a slow opening I wondered for a while if it had 
 crashed.  Looks like you may have something with the configuration 
 problem idea.  I'm using mandrake binaries which came with the original 
 installation.
 
 Cheers,

Create a new user. Login as that new user. Fire up OO and see if that
still takes an eternity to start. If it doesn't, then something is
strange about YOUR account/profile/home/settings

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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread et
On Thursday 28 October 2004 14:21, Graham Watkins wrote:
 Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Thursday 28 October 2004 02:22 am, Graham Watkins wrote:
 Well, why?
 
 In the past I've mostly used Star Office 5.2 which while it doesn't go
 at the speed of light, leaves Open Office 1.1 standing.

 (Snipped)

 Is everyone else here having the same experience?
 
 How do you cope?

 (Snipped again)

  What you are experiencing is not normal and sounds like a configuration
  issue of some kind.  Can you make another user on your box and try to
  start it there?  Are you using Mandrake packages of OO.o or the binary
  installer provided by OO.o?

 Just tried running under root (yes, I know I shouldn't) and it was much
 faster.  Then tried starting it as me using xfce4 which is less of a
 memory hog - such a slow opening I wondered for a while if it had
 crashed.  Looks like you may have something with the configuration
 problem idea.  I'm using mandrake binaries which came with the original
 installation.

 Cheers,
what does your host file, and resolve.conf say.

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Re: [newbie] Why is Open Office Writer so slow?

2004-10-28 Thread Miark
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:22:04 +0100, Graham wrote:

 It's just taken me about 15 minutes to open a file, make a small 
 alteration and print a single page with about 3 lines of text and a box 
 on it.


Blow away your .openoffice directory and that'll probably fix it:
rm -rf ~/.openoffice

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Re: [newbie] Why does my eth0 show failed?

2004-05-21 Thread David A. Ferguson
From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  DEVICE=eth0
  BOOTPROTO=dhcp
 try changing this to   =static 

I will give it a try, but ultimately I will need to use DHCP.  What is
weird is that the network actually works.  The trouble I have is that
I don't know what log file to look to narrow down what thinks there is
an error (is it hardware configuration, TCP/UDP net access, server trouble,
DNS negotiations, DHCP negotiations, etc.)

Is there a place to look to find out what is causing the FAILED message?

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Re: [newbie] Why does my eth0 show failed?

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 11:55, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Friday 21 May 2004 17:16, David A. Ferguson wrote:
 
 
 snip
  Why does my eth0 show failed?
 
  When Mdk10oe boots it hangs on the 'bring up eth0' message for a
  long time and then says [FAILED].  Where can I go to look and see
  more detailed information on why it failed?
 /snip
 
 Don't know if this will help : I had this message all of a sudden, 
 without changing anything. After some looking around, I simply 
 noticed that an extra diode-light had shown up on my DSL-modem. The 
 light in question was marked lock. After restarting the modem, 
 everything was in order. I haven't the faintest idea, why it 
 locked. ...A short power-off, maybe ?
 
 HTH
 
 Kaj Haulrich.


Wirrrd, Kaj. ??

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Re: [newbie] Why does my eth0 show failed?

2004-05-21 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 21 May 2004 19:26, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 11:55, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  On Friday 21 May 2004 17:16, David A. Ferguson wrote:
 
 
  snip
 
   Why does my eth0 show failed?
  
   When Mdk10oe boots it hangs on the 'bring up eth0' message
   for a long time and then says [FAILED].  Where can I go to
   look and see more detailed information on why it failed?
 
  /snip
 
  Don't know if this will help : I had this message all of a
  sudden, without changing anything. After some looking around, I
  simply noticed that an extra diode-light had shown up on my
  DSL-modem. The light in question was marked lock. After
  restarting the modem, everything was in order. I haven't the
  faintest idea, why it locked. ...A short power-off, maybe ?
 
  HTH
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 Wirrrd, Kaj. ??

 LX

Very much so. But sometimes we have short power outages here, way 
out from everything, including power stations. I tried to mimick an 
outage by shortly switching the power off/on, and you know what ? - 
The lock light came on, and my eth0 FAILED.

But that's only me, I suppose. Nice to have you onboard again, 
Lyvim.

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Re: [newbie] WHY Alt + F2 AND konquerer command does not function ??

2004-05-20 Thread Paul
Op Thu, 20 May 2004 14:47:59 +0300 schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 As far as I know after Alt + F2 and writing konquerer and pressing
 enter , Konquerer must run. But with my Mndrk. 10.0 does not run . Why
 ??!
 
 What do you recommmend ?

Open an xterm and see if you can run 'konqueror' from the command line.
If it starts, something weird goes on. Looks then that konq is not in
the path.
If you can run it from the menu and it fires up, that should be it from
what I can tell. Otherwise it is not installed.

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Re: [newbie] WHY Alt + F2 AND konquerer command does not function ??

2004-05-20 Thread hertas

With an xterm I can not run konquerer. It says command not found

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Op Thu, 20 May 2004 14:47:59 +0300 schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 As far as I know after Alt + F2 and writing konquerer and pressing
 enter , Konquerer must run. But with my Mndrk. 10.0 does not run . Why
 ??!

 What do you recommmend ?

Open an xterm and see if you can run 'konqueror' from the command line.
If it starts, something weird goes on. Looks then that konq is not in
the path.
If you can run it from the menu and it fires up, that should be it from
what I can tell. Otherwise it is not installed.

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Re: [newbie] WHY Alt + F2 AND konquerer command does not function ??

2004-05-20 Thread Paul
Op Thu, 20 May 2004 14:58:15 +0300 schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 With an xterm I can not run konquerer. It says command not found

- Does it work from the menu?
- Can you locate the program running locate konqueror from the command
line?
Yes- It is not in the path
No - It is not installed

On MDK9.1 (running here) it is installed in /usr/bin. (Note the
spelling, it is konqueror with an O, not konquerer with an E)

Check

echo $PATH

if that is in the path with you. And see with 

ls /usr/bin/konqueror

if that shows up something. If not, load mcc (Mandrake Control Center)
and find the RPM to install it with.

Good luck
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Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted

2004-05-20 Thread The Other
On Wed, 19 May 2004 19:58:42 -0700, David E. Fox 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2004 17:52:23 -0500
David A. Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for the tip.  I will look in syslog the next time it 
happens.
I ran a surface scan of the disk and it said ok.  I don't know how
to test the RAM but I haven't had any other problems at all so I
would bet the RAM is fine.
Well, it pays to be prudent, so first install the memtest RPM, it 
will
create a boot entry for it, so you can shutdown/reboot and let the 
test
run for as long as you wish, typically overnight. It's not the most
robust memory tester, but it is pretty good.
Sorry I didn't catch the original post, but here's another idea to 
look into.

Do you have *any* ROM Shadowing turned on in your BIOS?  If so, turn 
it off.  Mandrake expects to have access and control of all memory.  
I was getting inconsistent problems during the install of Mandrake, 
and then file corruption problems after the install when I had Video 
ROM shadowing enabled in the BIOS.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] WHY Alt + F2 AND konquerer command does not function ??

2004-05-20 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 20 May 2004 07:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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-With an xterm I can not run konquerer. It says command not found
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-H.ERTAS

Umm...its spelled konqueror... :-)

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Re: [newbie] WHY Alt + F2 AND konquerer command does not function ??

2004-05-20 Thread et
On Thursday 20 May 2004 07:47 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 As far as I know after Alt + F2 and writing konquerer and pressing
 enter , Konquerer must run. But with my Mndrk. 10.0 does not run . Why ??!

 What do you recommmend ?


do not capitalize it
spell it konqueror

or make an alias

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Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted

2004-05-19 Thread David E. Fox
On Mon, 17 May 2004 17:52:23 -0500
David A. Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Thanks for the tip.  I will look in syslog the next time it happens.
 I ran a surface scan of the disk and it said ok.  I don't know how
 to test the RAM but I haven't had any other problems at all so I
 would bet the RAM is fine.

Well, it pays to be prudent, so first install the memtest RPM, it will
create a boot entry for it, so you can shutdown/reboot and let the test
run for as long as you wish, typically overnight. It's not the most
robust memory tester, but it is pretty good. The other thing to try is
mprime, which is available over at www.mersenne.org. Its claim to fame
is that it's probably the most robust and thorough test of computing
hardware (processor/ram/cache) around, especially in the torture test
(./mprime -m 17). If this test passes, you're practically assured of a
rock-solid system. If not, well, caveat emptor ;).

ps. a new Mersenne prime has been found per that site.



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Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted

2004-05-17 Thread Damian Gatabria
That's probably not corruption. You are just
experiencing one difference between
windows-like linebreaks and Unix-style linebreaks.

When you open the textfile on windows 
you see a small square where the line should
end, right? This is normal. If you need to
convert a file to windows style, try 
importing in in ms word.

Damian



El jue, 13-05-2004 a las 17:53, David A. Ferguson escribi:
 I dual boot between Linux and W2k.  I store the shared data on a FAT.
 Whenever I write to it from Linux it almost always comes up corrupted.
 
 Is there some special setting I should have in my 'fstab' or something?
 
 It is so bad that it is basically useless.  I don't do anything special
 just open KWrite, enter some journal entries and exit.
 
 Thanks...David
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted

2004-05-17 Thread Damian Gatabria
 From: Damian Gatabria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  That's probably not corruption. You are just
  experiencing one difference between
  windows-like linebreaks and Unix-style linebreaks.
 
  When you open the textfile on windows
  you see a small square where the line should
  end, right? This is normal. If you need to
  convert a file to windows style, try
  importing in in ms word.
 
 It is not the line endings the /file system/ is corrupt.  When I reboot to
 Windows and attempt to access any file, Windows warns that the directory is
 corrupt and I should run chkdsk.  When I do chkdsk reports cross linked
 files,
 unowned blocks and truncated files.
 
 David
 

Then you should check your system
for bad RAM or bad disks. FAT support on 
UNIX systems has been stable for many years
now.

(btw, do you check /var/log/syslog
for weird records while writing to these
partitions?)

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Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted

2004-05-17 Thread David A. Ferguson
From: Damian Gatabria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: Damian Gatabria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   That's probably not corruption. You are just
   experiencing one difference between
   windows-like linebreaks and Unix-style linebreaks.
  
   When you open the textfile on windows
   you see a small square where the line should
   end, right? This is normal. If you need to
   convert a file to windows style, try
   importing in in ms word.
 
  It is not the line endings the /file system/ is corrupt.  When I reboot
to
  Windows and attempt to access any file, Windows warns that the directory
is
  corrupt and I should run chkdsk.  When I do chkdsk reports cross linked
  files,
  unowned blocks and truncated files.
 
  David
 

 Then you should check your system
 for bad RAM or bad disks. FAT support on
 UNIX systems has been stable for many years
 now.

 (btw, do you check /var/log/syslog
 for weird records while writing to these
 partitions?)

Thanks for the tip.  I will look in syslog the next time it happens.
I ran a surface scan of the disk and it said ok.  I don't know how
to test the RAM but I haven't had any other problems at all so I
would bet the RAM is fine.

Thanks...David



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Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted by Linux?

2004-05-14 Thread Frank
And just another thought.

I found that unless you included [ actually typed ] the file extension 
name ( eg *.txt) then my system when within windows is not happy about 
it at all.

To check others concerns issue the following from your command client:
$su
Password
#fdisk /dev/hda(assuming you are using only one harddrive)
At the prompt type p (exclude quotes)
The result should show you exactly what that partition is.
At the prompt type q to quit and return to your command prompt
#exit
You might already know all this but others reading this thread may need 
to know how to find out.

Enjoy

Regards

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Marc Lijour wrote:

Le May 13, 2004 05:00 pm, David A. Ferguson a écrit :
 

I dual boot between Linux and W2k.  I store the shared data on a FAT.
Whenever I write to it from Linux it almost always comes up corrupted.
Is there some special setting I should have in my 'fstab' or something?

It is so bad that it is basically useless.  I don't do anything special
just open KWrite, enter some journal entries and exit.
Thanks...David
   

I use the same config.
My entry:
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=500,umask=0 0 0
You should definitely check twice, is it really FAT32?

 




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Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted by Linux?

2004-05-14 Thread David A. Ferguson
   I dual boot between Linux and W2k.  I store the shared data on a
   FAT. Whenever I write to it from Linux it almost always comes up
   corrupted.
  
   Is there some special setting I should have in my 'fstab' or
   something?
  
   It is so bad that it is basically useless.  I don't do anything
   special just open KWrite, enter some journal entries and exit.
  
   Thanks...David
 
  David, You may already know this but..
  are you sure its FAT and not NTFS ..
  I dont have W2K, but IIRC it uses NTFS and Linux can't write to
  it. It can read NTFS .. just no writing to it.
 
  or it could be that kwrite is saving it in unix format which has a
  different EOL character, so you could look into dos2unix, which will
  convert between the 2 different types.
 
  or I could be way off with my guessing
  HTH .. somehow 8)
 
  RickS

Thanks for the reply.  I am sure its FAT.  I create a 1GB FAT partition
(hda1)
for file tansfer.  W2K is NFTF (hda2).  I also boot to DOS on that partition
to run some old programs that only run under DOS.

Its not line endings or anything like that.  It file system corruption.
When
I run the DOS scandisk, it complains about cross linked files, unused
sectors,
etc.  The directory is messed up.  I regularly lose data for linux writes.

Its is wierd because sometimes even Linux will realize that the directory is
hosed (while I am working in a Linux session).

Thanks for the tips...David



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Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted by Linux?

2004-05-14 Thread David A. Ferguson

- Original Message - 
From: Marc Lijour [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted by Linux?


 Le May 13, 2004 05:00 pm, David A. Ferguson a écrit :
  I dual boot between Linux and W2k.  I store the shared data on a FAT.
  Whenever I write to it from Linux it almost always comes up corrupted.
 
  Is there some special setting I should have in my 'fstab' or something?
 
  It is so bad that it is basically useless.  I don't do anything special
  just open KWrite, enter some journal entries and exit.
 
  Thanks...David

 I use the same config.
 My entry:
 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=500,umask=0 0 0

 You should definitely check twice, is it really FAT32?

I thought it would have thought it was FAT16 or FAT12.  I formated it with
a Win98 (DOS booting) floppy and selected *no* big partions.  It is only
1GB in size.

Maybe I should try specifing FAT16/FAT12 in the fstab and see if I get
better
results?

David



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Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted by Linux?

2004-05-14 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
David A. Ferguson wrote:

- Original Message - 
From: Marc Lijour [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted by Linux?

 

Le May 13, 2004 05:00 pm, David A. Ferguson a écrit :
   

I dual boot between Linux and W2k.  I store the shared data on a FAT.
Whenever I write to it from Linux it almost always comes up corrupted.
Is there some special setting I should have in my 'fstab' or something?

It is so bad that it is basically useless.  I don't do anything special
just open KWrite, enter some journal entries and exit.
Thanks...David
 

I use the same config.
My entry:
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=500,umask=0 0 0
You should definitely check twice, is it really FAT32?
   

I thought it would have thought it was FAT16 or FAT12.  I formated it with
a Win98 (DOS booting) floppy and selected *no* big partions.  It is only
1GB in size.
Maybe I should try specifing FAT16/FAT12 in the fstab and see if I get
better
results?
David

 

If you want it to support long file names, you have to use vfat.

Mikkel

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Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted by Linux?

2004-05-13 Thread RickS
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David A. Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I dual boot between Linux and W2k.  I store the shared data on a
 FAT. Whenever I write to it from Linux it almost always comes up
 corrupted.
 
 Is there some special setting I should have in my 'fstab' or
 something?
 
 It is so bad that it is basically useless.  I don't do anything
 special just open KWrite, enter some journal entries and exit.
 
 Thanks...David

David, You may already know this but..
are you sure its FAT and not NTFS .. 
I dont have W2K, but IIRC it uses NTFS and Linux can't write to
it. It can read NTFS .. just no writing to it.

or it could be that kwrite is saving it in unix format which has a 
different EOL character, so you could look into dos2unix, which will
convert between the 2 different types.

or I could be way off with my guessing
HTH .. somehow 8)

RickS
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Re: [newbie] Why is my FAT always corrupted by Linux?

2004-05-13 Thread Marc Lijour
Le May 13, 2004 05:00 pm, David A. Ferguson a écrit :
 I dual boot between Linux and W2k.  I store the shared data on a FAT.
 Whenever I write to it from Linux it almost always comes up corrupted.

 Is there some special setting I should have in my 'fstab' or something?

 It is so bad that it is basically useless.  I don't do anything special
 just open KWrite, enter some journal entries and exit.

 Thanks...David

I use the same config.
My entry:
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=500,umask=0 0 0

You should definitely check twice, is it really FAT32?



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Re: [newbie] Why does tilde seem to equal %7E ??

2004-03-03 Thread Aavo Tambur
Tsiteerin Bob Read [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Does anyone know why the ~ (tilde) in a URL often shows up in
 the URL box in Mozilla as %7E   ??

0x7E or 126 in decimal is the ASCII code of tilde symbol. In urls a few special
characters (most notably the space within a filename) get automatically
converted,  but you can also represent the entire url in encoded form:

 http://users.ids.net/%7E%62%6f%62%72%65%61%64/%63%6f%74%6d%2e%68%74%6d

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Re: [newbie] Why does tilde seem to equal %7E ??

2004-03-03 Thread Bob Read
Thanks Aavo -- glad I asked.  ;-)

Bob

Aavo Tambur wrote:
Tsiteerin Bob Read [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Does anyone know why the ~ (tilde) in a URL often shows up in
the URL box in Mozilla as %7E   ??


0x7E or 126 in decimal is the ASCII code of tilde symbol. In urls a few special
characters (most notably the space within a filename) get automatically
converted,  but you can also represent the entire url in encoded form:
 http://users.ids.net/%7E%62%6f%62%72%65%61%64/%63%6f%74%6d%2e%68%74%6d

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Re: [newbie] Why do I get this ?/

2004-01-21 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:34:00 +
trufflesdad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I did update the eslrahc site and if I do a urpmi gift-plugin
 it tells me there is no package by that name..

That is correct there is no pkg named gift-plugin.
gift-plugin is provided by gift-openft

urpmi gift-openft

Also try adding a different plf source.


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Re: [newbie] Why do I get this ?/

2004-01-21 Thread trufflesdad
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:02:34 -0500
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:34:00 +
 trufflesdad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I did update the eslrahc site and if I do a urpmi gift-plugin
  it tells me there is no package by that name..
 
 That is correct there is no pkg named gift-plugin.
 gift-plugin is provided by gift-openft
 
 urpmi gift-openft
 
 Also try adding a different plf source.
 
 
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Hi Charles
   Thanks for the reply...
  I get no package named gift-openft when I do the rpmi call...
How do I find out which repository to add to get it
Sorry for the hassle but it I am just coming back to Mandrake

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RE: [newbie] Why do I get this ?/

2004-01-21 Thread Smith, Robert A
ON Wednesday, January 21, 2004 8:17 AM trufflesdad scribbled:

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:02:34 -0500
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:34:00 +
 trufflesdad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I did update the eslrahc site and if I do a urpmi gift-plugin
  it tells me there is no package by that name..
 
 That is correct there is no pkg named gift-plugin.
 gift-plugin is provided by gift-openft
 
 urpmi gift-openft
 
 Also try adding a different plf source.
 
 
 Charles
 
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 admit it frankly and try another.  But above all, try something.
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Hi Charles
   Thanks for the reply...
  I get no package named gift-openft when I do the rpmi call...
How do I find out which repository to add to get it
Sorry for the hassle but it I am just coming back to Mandrake




Google is your friend!!!
http://www.google.com/linux?hl=enlr=ie=ISO-8859-1q=gift-openftbtnG=Googl
e+Search

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Re: [newbie] Why do I get this ?/

2004-01-21 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:29:30 -0600
Smith, Robert A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I get no package named gift-openft when I do the rpmi call...
   How do I find out which repository to add to get it
 Sorry for the hassle but it I am just coming back to Mandrake

The first thing I would suggest it to remove your current plf source.

I have 2 defined, 1 as primary which is used when I run my urpmi
alias and a second which is additionally used if I run 'urpmi.update
-a'.

I use easynet and club-internet

To keep wordwarp from affecting

urpmi.addmedia
plf ftp://ftp.easynet.fr/plf/mandrake/9.2/i586/
with ../hdlist.cz

urpmi.addmedia 
plf1 http://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/9.2/i586/
with ../hdlist.cz

When actually doing the command it should be as such but without
the  
urpmi.addmedia plf location with ../hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia plf1 location with ../hdlist.cz

Both sites Do have gift-openft-0.2.1.1-4plf.i586.rpm


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Re: [newbie] Why MicroSlop wants Google!

2003-11-11 Thread Franki
Schwartz Avi wrote:

On Nov 11, 2003, at 8:21, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

Check it out - very interesting reading.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12603


Unfortunately for the Inquirer, the article is wrong.  If you run the 
Linux Windows search you get on the first page indeed 'Results 1-15 of 
about 18 containing Linux Windows' but if you click on Next now it 
changes to 'Results 16-30 of about 8921757 containing Linux Windows'. 
 At the same time, Google gives me 'Results 1 - 10 of about 9,370,000'. 
 So the difference is not as big as claimed.  How hard was it for the 
writer to test it out first?

Avi


Yes, but its also possible that microsoft tweaked it when the article 
was released...
It would be very bad press if mainsteam media noticed it and  were able 
to verify...

We just don't know.  which means if MS did tweak it, then they got away 
with it.

rgds

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Re: [newbie] Why MicroSlop wants Google!

2003-11-11 Thread Schwartz Avi
On Nov 11, 2003, at 10:13, Franki wrote:

Schwartz Avi wrote:

On Nov 11, 2003, at 8:21, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Check it out - very interesting reading.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12603
Unfortunately for the Inquirer, the article is wrong.  If you run the 
Linux Windows search you get on the first page indeed 'Results 1-15 
of about 18 containing Linux Windows' but if you click on Next now 
it changes to 'Results 16-30 of about 8921757 containing Linux 
Windows'.  At the same time, Google gives me 'Results 1 - 10 of 
about 9,370,000'.  So the difference is not as big as claimed.  How 
hard was it for the writer to test it out first?
Avi


Yes, but its also possible that microsoft tweaked it when the article 
was released...
It would be very bad press if mainsteam media noticed it and  were 
able to verify...

We just don't know.  which means if MS did tweak it, then they got 
away with it.
Their search sucks but I don't think it is because of bad intentions as 
much as incompetence.  If you search for Windows on MSN you'd expect to 
see many millions of pages, right.  Wrong:

I tried the same with searching for Windows.  MSN initially gave me 
2399 results but after many clicks on Next it ended up being only 1069! 
 Google gave me 98,600,000.  Can you say MSN sucks?  Yes, but that is 
all you can say about them.

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Re: [newbie] Why MicroSlop wants Google!

2003-11-11 Thread Charlie
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 09:31, Schwartz Avi wrote:
 On Nov 11, 2003, at 10:13, Franki wrote:

 I tried the same with searching for Windows.  MSN initially gave me
 2399 results but after many clicks on Next it ended up being only 1069!
   Google gave me 98,600,000.  Can you say MSN sucks?  Yes, but that is
 all you can say about them.


I tried a couple similar searches on google and msn.

Searching for windows
 msn returned 1-15 of about 2399
 google returned 1-10 of about 100,000,000

Searching for linux
 msn returned 1-15 of about 376
 google returned 1-10 of about 96,300,000

Going past the first page on MSN did not increase the numbers for either seach 
the way it did for the linux windows search.

Is MSN biased or just bad? My vote is for both.


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Re: [newbie] Why MicroSlop wants Google!

2003-11-11 Thread Schwartz Avi
On Nov 11, 2003, at 10:47, Charlie wrote:

On Tuesday 11 November 2003 09:31, Schwartz Avi wrote:
On Nov 11, 2003, at 10:13, Franki wrote:

I tried the same with searching for Windows.  MSN initially gave me
2399 results but after many clicks on Next it ended up being only 
1069!
  Google gave me 98,600,000.  Can you say MSN sucks?  Yes, but that is
all you can say about them.

I tried a couple similar searches on google and msn.

Searching for windows
 msn returned 1-15 of about 2399
 google returned 1-10 of about 100,000,000
Searching for linux
 msn returned 1-15 of about 376
 google returned 1-10 of about 96,300,000
Going past the first page on MSN did not increase the numbers for 
either seach
the way it did for the linux windows search.

Is MSN biased or just bad? My vote is for both.
Bad.  If you click on next enough times the number start changing.  
Going up and down until at some point the settle down.

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Re: [newbie] Why MicroSlop wants Google!

2003-11-11 Thread mwafkowski
That article belongs in a rag such as the (US) National Inquirier...come
one people. You're really not that bored?!

And JFK was killed by Hobbits.

MRW

- Original Message - 
From: Schwartz Avi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Why MicroSlop wants Google!



 On Nov 11, 2003, at 10:13, Franki wrote:

  Schwartz Avi wrote:
 
  On Nov 11, 2003, at 8:21, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 
  Check it out - very interesting reading.
 
  http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12603
  Unfortunately for the Inquirer, the article is wrong.  If you run the
  Linux Windows search you get on the first page indeed 'Results 1-15
  of about 18 containing Linux Windows' but if you click on Next now
  it changes to 'Results 16-30 of about 8921757 containing Linux
  Windows'.  At the same time, Google gives me 'Results 1 - 10 of
  about 9,370,000'.  So the difference is not as big as claimed.  How
  hard was it for the writer to test it out first?
  Avi
 
 
  Yes, but its also possible that microsoft tweaked it when the article
  was released...
  It would be very bad press if mainsteam media noticed it and  were
  able to verify...
 
  We just don't know.  which means if MS did tweak it, then they got
  away with it.

 Their search sucks but I don't think it is because of bad intentions as
 much as incompetence.  If you search for Windows on MSN you'd expect to
 see many millions of pages, right.  Wrong:

 I tried the same with searching for Windows.  MSN initially gave me
 2399 results but after many clicks on Next it ended up being only 1069!
   Google gave me 98,600,000.  Can you say MSN sucks?  Yes, but that is
 all you can say about them.

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RE: [newbie] Why MicroSlop wants Google!

2003-11-11 Thread Mark Kirschner
mwafkowski said: 
That article belongs in a rag such as the (US) National Inquirier...come
one people. You're really not that bored?!

Nope...please note the National Enquirer URL:
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/
and the URL for the article:
 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12603


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Re: [newbie] Why MicroSlop wants Google!

2003-11-11 Thread Aron Smith
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 11:47 am, Charlie wrote:
 On Tuesday 11 November 2003 09:31, Schwartz Avi wrote:
  On Nov 11, 2003, at 10:13, Franki wrote:
 
  I tried the same with searching for Windows.  MSN initially gave me
  2399 results but after many clicks on Next it ended up being only 1069!
Google gave me 98,600,000.  Can you say MSN sucks?  Yes, but that is
  all you can say about them.

 I tried a couple similar searches on google and msn.

 Searching for windows
  msn returned 1-15 of about 2399
  google returned 1-10 of about 100,000,000

 Searching for linux
  msn returned 1-15 of about 376
  google returned 1-10 of about 96,300,000

 Going past the first page on MSN did not increase the numbers for either
 seach the way it did for the linux windows search.

 Is MSN biased or just bad? My vote is for both.
And stupid


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Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?

2003-11-05 Thread John Richard Smith
I don't believe you answered the question:-



Possibly you don't have kde available as an option in the dropdown list 
, and that is your real problem ?

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Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?

2003-11-04 Thread John Richard Smith
M.A.Bell wrote:

mike wrote:

M.A.Bell wrote:

Greetings.
I've had this problem for a couple of months and had hoped that 
installing 9.2 would fix it, but it didn't.
After I boot up, I see a terminal window on a blue screen.
When I enter startkde, it does.
How can I get my system to do this automagically?





Mike,
I ran drakboot and, as I expected, the launch graphical... box was 
already checked.
So that's not the problem.
So you get to the login window, and you select a user, give password(if 
required) and then from the dropdown list select kde and that should 
launch a kde desktop.Once kde has been selected once it adopts it as 
default until you change it again.Possibly you don't have kde available 
as an option in the dropdown list , and that is your real problem ?

John



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Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?

2003-11-04 Thread M.A.Bell
mike wrote:

M.A.Bell wrote:

mike wrote:

M.A.Bell wrote:

Greetings.
I've had this problem for a couple of months and had hoped that 
installing 9.2 would fix it, but it didn't.
After I boot up, I see a terminal window on a blue screen.
When I enter startkde, it does.
How can I get my system to do this automagically?


Start kde then open a terminal window type su then enter root 
password when prompted.Then type drakboot
It will give a menu and just check the box next to
(launch the graphical enviroment when system starts)
then click ok.


Mike,
I ran drakboot and, as I expected, the launch graphical... box was 
already checked.
So that's not the problem.


In a terminal window type cat /etc/inittab without quotes.
And see what the line below the runlevels says, It will look like this 
below.

 id:3:initdefault:

mine is set to runlevel 3 which boots to console

 id:5:initdefault:

this would boot to graphical login

see what yours says and if it says?



mine says id:5:initdefault:



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Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?

2003-11-04 Thread M.A.Bell
John Richard Smith wrote:

M.A.Bell wrote:

mike wrote:

M.A.Bell wrote:

Greetings.
I've had this problem for a couple of months and had hoped that 
installing 9.2 would fix it, but it didn't.
After I boot up, I see a terminal window on a blue screen.
When I enter startkde, it does.
How can I get my system to do this automagically?






Mike,
I ran drakboot and, as I expected, the launch graphical... box was 
already checked.
So that's not the problem.


So you get to the login window, and you select a user, give 
password(if required) and then from the dropdown list select kde and 
that should launch a kde desktop.Once kde has been selected once it 
adopts it as default until you change it again.Possibly you don't have 
kde available as an option in the dropdown list , and that is your 
real problem ?

John



No, I don't get to the login window.
I get a terminal window with the user already logged in (no interaction 
on my part).




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Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?

2003-11-04 Thread M.A.Bell
Tony S. Sykes wrote:

What is your hardware? If you have a nvidia geforce4 have you installed
the drivers?
Tony.

-Original Message-
From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 8:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?
M.A.Bell wrote:

 

mike wrote:

   

M.A.Bell wrote:

 

Greetings.
I've had this problem for a couple of months and had hoped that 
installing 9.2 would fix it, but it didn't.
After I boot up, I see a terminal window on a blue screen.
When I enter startkde, it does.
How can I get my system to do this automagically?
   



 

Mike,
I ran drakboot and, as I expected, the launch graphical... box was 
already checked.
So that's not the problem.
   

So you get to the login window, and you select a user, give password(if 
required) and then from the dropdown list select kde and that should 
launch a kde desktop.Once kde has been selected once it adopts it as 
default until you change it again.Possibly you don't have kde available 
as an option in the dropdown list , and that is your real problem ?

John



 

It's an ATI Radeon 8500.
I believe the drivers are properly installed.


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Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?

2003-11-04 Thread M.A.Bell
Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 08:04 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 

What is your hardware? If you have a nvidia geforce4 have you
installed the drivers?
Tony.
   

I don't believe that's the problem. I have a GeF4 and it works 
out of the box with the Xfree86 'nv' driver. No need to install any 
drivers. OTOH, there's no tellin what kind of bugs installin the 
proprietary nVidia driver can cause.

 

-Original Message-
From: John Richard Smith
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November
04, 2003 8:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?
M.A.Bell wrote:
   

mike wrote:
 

M.A.Bell wrote:
   

Greetings.
I've had this problem for a couple of months and had hoped that
installing 9.2 would fix it, but it didn't.
After I boot up, I see a terminal window on a blue screen.
When I enter startkde, it does.
How can I get my system to do this automagically?
 

Mike,
I ran drakboot and, as I expected, the launch graphical... box
was already checked.
So that's not the problem.
 

So you get to the login window, and you select a user, give
password(if required) and then from the dropdown list select kde
and that should launch a kde desktop.Once kde has been selected
once it adopts it as default until you change it again.Possibly you
don't have kde available as an option in the dropdown list , and
that is your real problem ?
John
   

I had the problem quite a while ago that Mike describes. In my 
case it was a corrupted /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file. Mike, if 
you want I can email you (send me a request off list) my kdmrc file. 
You won't be able to use it as is, other than to compare it to yours. 
You might also look in /usr/share/config/kdm/ and see if you don't 
already have a backup, probly with a rpm.new or rpm.save extension.
 

I tried just about everything I found different in your kdmrc, but 
nothing fixed the problem.
Now I get the login dialog and, regardless of which user and/or desktop 
I choose, after about 10 secs the dialog box sort of wiggles, and the 
password field is cleared. I.E. I can't login.



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Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?

2003-11-04 Thread Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 06:44 pm, M.A.Bell wrote:
 Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 November 2003 08:04 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 What is your hardware? If you have a nvidia geforce4 have you
 installed the drivers?
 
 Tony.
 
  I don't believe that's the problem. I have a GeF4 and it works
 out of the box with the Xfree86 'nv' driver. No need to install any
 drivers. OTOH, there's no tellin what kind of bugs installin the
 proprietary nVidia driver can cause.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Richard Smith
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November
 04, 2003 8:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?
 
 M.A.Bell wrote:
 mike wrote:
 M.A.Bell wrote:
 Greetings.
 I've had this problem for a couple of months and had hoped that
 installing 9.2 would fix it, but it didn't.
 After I boot up, I see a terminal window on a blue screen.
 When I enter startkde, it does.
 How can I get my system to do this automagically?
 


 I tried just about everything I found different in your kdmrc, but
 nothing fixed the problem.
 Now I get the login dialog and, regardless of which user and/or desktop
 I choose, after about 10 secs the dialog box sort of wiggles, and the
 password field is cleared. I.E. I can't login.
The dialog box wiggle means you gave it the wrong password, it is shaking its 
head no.  You may have to change your password.HTH
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Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?

2003-11-03 Thread mike
M.A.Bell wrote:
Greetings.
I've had this problem for a couple of months and had hoped that 
installing 9.2 would fix it, but it didn't.
After I boot up, I see a terminal window on a blue screen.
When I enter startkde, it does.
How can I get my system to do this automagically?
Start kde then open a terminal window type su then enter 
root password when prompted.Then type drakboot
It will give a menu and just check the box next to
(launch the graphical enviroment when system starts)
then click ok.

Mike




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Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?

2003-11-03 Thread M.A.Bell
mike wrote:

M.A.Bell wrote:

Greetings.
I've had this problem for a couple of months and had hoped that 
installing 9.2 would fix it, but it didn't.
After I boot up, I see a terminal window on a blue screen.
When I enter startkde, it does.
How can I get my system to do this automagically?


Start kde then open a terminal window type su then enter root password 
when prompted.Then type drakboot
It will give a menu and just check the box next to
(launch the graphical enviroment when system starts)
then click ok.

Mike




Mike,
I ran drakboot and, as I expected, the launch graphical... box was 
already checked.
So that's not the problem.




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Re: [newbie] Why do I have to start KDE manually?

2003-11-03 Thread mike
M.A.Bell wrote:
mike wrote:

M.A.Bell wrote:

Greetings.
I've had this problem for a couple of months and had hoped that 
installing 9.2 would fix it, but it didn't.
After I boot up, I see a terminal window on a blue screen.
When I enter startkde, it does.
How can I get my system to do this automagically?

Start kde then open a terminal window type su then enter root password 
when prompted.Then type drakboot
It will give a menu and just check the box next to
(launch the graphical enviroment when system starts)
then click ok.

Mike,
I ran drakboot and, as I expected, the launch graphical... box was 
already checked.
So that's not the problem.
In a terminal window type cat /etc/inittab without quotes.
And see what the line below the runlevels says, It will look 
like this below.

 id:3:initdefault:

mine is set to runlevel 3 which boots to console

 id:5:initdefault:

this would boot to graphical login

see what yours says and if it says?



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Re: [newbie] Why is it..

2003-10-31 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Thursday 30 October 2003 11:02 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ... that BEFORE you get Linux, those who speak in favour of it say
 things like oh, get Linux coz it is far less demanding on hardware or
 you have much more control configuring hardware or you are in control

 Then when you do install Linux and the gee whizz GFX card won't work or
 the CD-ROM can't be mounted or the poor network performance is the fault
 of that low end NIC (all which work very well on another OS :-)), the
 experts all respond in unison - for Linux you need the very BEST
 hardware. Get rid of that crappy junk. Buy new. Buy the best

 :-)

 Feeling mischievous

BECAUSE LINUX ROCKS


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Re: [newbie] Why is it..

2003-10-31 Thread aronsmith
On Thursday 30 October 2003 11:02 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ... that BEFORE you get Linux, those who speak in favour of it say
 things like oh, get Linux coz it is far less demanding on hardware
 or you have much more control configuring hardware or you are in
 control

 Then when you do install Linux and the gee whizz GFX card won't work
 or the CD-ROM can't be mounted or the poor network performance is the
 fault of that low end NIC (all which work very well on another OS
 :-)), the experts all respond in unison - for Linux you need the
 very BEST hardware. Get rid of that crappy junk. Buy new. Buy the
 best

 :-)

 Feeling mischievous
i got junk but got no trouble (except what I cause myself ;-)


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Re: [newbie] Why is it..

2003-10-31 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 31 October 2003 02:02 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ... that BEFORE you get Linux, those who speak in favour of it say
 things like oh, get Linux coz it is far less demanding on hardware or
 you have much more control configuring hardware or you are in control

 Then when you do install Linux and the gee whizz GFX card won't work or
 the CD-ROM can't be mounted or the poor network performance is the fault
 of that low end NIC (all which work very well on another OS :-)), the
 experts all respond in unison - for Linux you need the very BEST
 hardware. Get rid of that crappy junk. Buy new. Buy the best

Because the low end hardware is designed specifically for use in the other OS, 
mostly by emulating hardware functionality in software, thus reducing the 
cost of the hardware vendor.  Also, linux is not less demanding on hardware, 
but more so.  I mean, you can run it on hardware with lower performance specs 
than other OS's need, which is waht I think you mean, but the linux kernel 
gives the hardware more of a workout, so if it is not up to quality spec, it 
might not work even though it works in Windows.  This is what you imply with 
your second statement.

As for the latest and greatest, because the hardware vendors don't release the 
specs to the developers to develop kernel modules (drivers), so they have to 
figure it out and it takes a little while.  You don't need the best, you just 
need standards compliant.  

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Re: [newbie] Why is it..

2003-10-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 31 Oct 2003 12:49 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Friday 31 October 2003 02:02 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 linux is not less demanding on hardware, but more so.  

I think it used to be true, when linux was mainly being used to run a 
few server apps.  Nowadays we want it to do as wide a variety of 
tasks as windows, so it's not surprising that it needs as many and as 
high spec resources.  ISTM that this is a function of linux 'growing 
up'.  Perhaps it's not fair that we think of linux, the system, in 
both contexts with the same criteria IYSWIM

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Re: [newbie] Why is it..

2003-10-31 Thread Richard Urwin
On Friday 31 Oct 2003 7:02 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ... that BEFORE you get Linux, those who speak in favour of it say
 things like oh, get Linux coz it is far less demanding on hardware or
 you have much more control configuring hardware or you are in control

 Then when you do install Linux and the gee whizz GFX card won't work or
 the CD-ROM can't be mounted or the poor network performance is the fault
 of that low end NIC (all which work very well on another OS :-)), the
 experts all respond in unison - for Linux you need the very BEST
 hardware. Get rid of that crappy junk. Buy new. Buy the best

 :-)

 Feeling mischievous

When you have problems on windows it takes you a day to solve them and you 
come out of it knowing no more than when you started, totally demoralised, 
knowing the computer got the better of you and feeling like you've done ten 
rounds against Mike Tyson.

When you have problems on Linux it takes you two days to solve them, but you 
have fun, learn a lot, and come out of it feeling more in control than when 
you started.

You *can* run Linux on crappy old hardware, but not crappy new hardware, 
because it uses windows to do the work. If the hardware is too old you might 
have to start from scratch or strip the distibution to bare bones and find 
old drivers on the net that the distributer didn't package. There is no free 
lunch; ten year old hardware will give you ten year old speed and power. You 
wont be running KDE on a 32MB 486, but it would make a decent 
firewall/mail/web server.

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Re: [newbie] Why torrent is too slow!!!

2003-10-16 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 11:55 pm, Lucio_Costa wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I´m experimenting download 3 mdk 9.2 iso using
 torrent, I don't know why but it's too slow. I
 accessed this link:
 http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969 and I saw my
 infos below. Is it normal?

 BitTorrent download info

 * tracker version: 3.3
 * server time: 2003-10-15 23:05 UTC

 info hash completedownloading downloaded
 003b62fea4d3bd301d364feae6bc306045941125  96  293 397
 4b53fb281276f855dfa991491a64455e563140a4  261 712 1024
 ce91553fd644781e6f1d5e24103c047d73a16910  2   0   1562
 0 files   335/359 943/10052983/2993

SNIP

 Thanks in advance

 Lucio Costa

That info is a count of how many people are currently in the torrent for each 
of the 3 torrents available.  (Not sure which is which)

So for the first torrent 96 people have the complete file and are currently 
uploading it to others, and 293 people are currently downling it from each 
other and the completed people, while 397 people have completed the torrent 
and signed off.

You will find that your download rate will improve if you open ports 6881:6889 
to allow uploads, and some people have reported better download rates if they 
limit the upload rate to something less than their broadband connection 
maximum.
My cable allows 128kbps upstream, so I have limited upload rate to 13 KBs
( --max_upload_rate 13 )

You will also get better download rates if people will leave their torrent 
running after they have completed to help others

BTW: The problem with Error 404 has been fixed now.

derek

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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-10 Thread Flávio Henrique
I suggest you model yours after mine, making the necessary adjustments.
The syntax is not that hard to understand. Once you have updated your
lilo.conf, post it here. Note, the append line will be completely
different for you, so I suggest you skip these lines in your file.
append=failsafe is required if you want to boot into failsafe,
however.


It works John !!!
Thanx for everything and sorry for the duh questions...

Flávio Henrique

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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-09 Thread bascule
flavio,
if you have done
fdisk /dev/hdd
and confirmed that windows is indeed on the first parttition on that disk and 
that it does have the number 1 - not necessarily the same thing!
then i suggest that lilo is choking ion your other entries, perhaps those 
other entries regarding /dev/hdd1?

bascule

 image=/dev/hdd1
 root=/dev/hdc6

 image=/dev/hdd1
 root=/dev/hdc6

 image=/dev/hdd1
 root=/dev/hdc6

 other=dev/hdd1
 label=windows
 table=/dev/hdd
 map-drive=0x80
 to=0x81
 map-drive=0x81
 to=0x80



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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-09 Thread Flávio Henrique
 flavio,
 if you have done
 fdisk /dev/hdd
 and confirmed that windows is indeed on the first parttition on that disk and
 that it does have the number 1 - not necessarily the same thing!
 then i suggest that lilo is choking ion your other entries, perhaps those
 other entries regarding /dev/hdd1?

yes... indeed exist another particion in my second hd... but is empty
my hd have 20Gb and I make a particion with 7GB to install windows... the rest is 
empty... don't
have a partition there...

in MD9.1 when I run MCC and look for my partions, in hdd I have the /dev/hdd1 monted 
in /home/d2 and
the rest of the disk empty...

I don't know if this is the problem..

But I'll try to do what John Drouhard suggest me and see what happens...
I'm leaving the work now and goint to home... in some minutes I have the answer...

Thanx for everyone...

Bye

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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-08 Thread ed tharp
let me put it up top so Flavio might see it

I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you don't
have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position on the
ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition.
your error might be any part of /etc/lilo.conf, so post the whole thing.


On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 22:36, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 19:27, ed tharp wrote:
  On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 07:10, Flávio Henrique wrote:
   On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 00:52, yankl wrote:
On Thursday 09 October 2003 04:46 am, Flávio Henrique wrote:
 Hi...
 I'm very newbie in Linux and I have a problem to make something here...

 After install Mandrake 9.1 in my hd, I bring another with win98 already
 have and install it...

 I trying to insert the win98 in LILO menu but it does not work...

 The hd that have md9.1 is hdc6 and the other, that have win98, is
 hdd1...

 What I did:
 Configuration - KDE - System - Boot Manager (LILO)
 in the second page (OS), Add another SO:
   boot disk = /dev/hdd1
   label = windows98
 Ok - Ok...
 even do that, the option to enter in windows98 does not show in LILO
 menu...

 What I miss or what I did wrong ??

 thanx in advance...

 Flávio Henrique
Go to the command line and as root run lilo command:
#su
#lilo
   
   After type lilo I receive a following message:
 Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
 Fatal: Not a number: padrã
   and nothing happens...
   
   Flávio Henrique
   
   
   
   I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you don't
   have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position on the
   ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition. I don't think you are
   gonna get win9x on without it being on the first partition of the
   first drive on the first IDE bus, ie hda1 or maybe hda5. 
 I seem to remember something about Win9x insisting that it be first
 because of a nasty habit of rewriting the boot sector.
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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-08 Thread John Drouhard
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:01:42 +
Flávio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   my Linux is in hdc6
   and my win98 is in hdd1

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# lilo
   Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
   Fatal: Not a number: padrã
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]#
 
 

Could you kindly post the entire contents of your /etc/lilo.conf file?
It sounds like a problem with another part of this file.

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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-08 Thread Flávio Henrique
let me put it up top so Flavio might see it

I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you
don't
have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position
on the
ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition.
your error might be any part of /etc/lilo.conf, so post the
whole thing.


Ok... here is my lilo.conf

boot=/dev/hdc
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
root=/dev/hdc6
vga=padrã

image=/boot/map
label=map
root=/dev/hdc6
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
label=2.4.21-0.13
root=/dev/hdc6
read-only

image=/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
label=Linux_Compiled
root=/dev/hdc6
read-only
optional

image=/dev/hdd1
root=/dev/hdc6

image=/dev/hdd1
root=/dev/hdc6

image=/dev/hdd1
root=/dev/hdc6

other=dev/hdd1
label=windows
table=/dev/hdd
map-drive=0x80
to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
to=0x80



Thanx for everyone

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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-08 Thread John Drouhard
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:30:58 +
Flávio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 let me put it up top so Flavio might see it
 
 I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you
 don't
 have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position
 on the
 ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition.
 your error might be any part of /etc/lilo.conf, so post the
 whole thing.
 
 
 Ok... here is my lilo.conf
 
 boot=/dev/hdc
 prompt
 timeout=50
 message=/boot/message
 root=/dev/hdc6
 vga=padrã
 

Right here is the problem. Make the line that currently reads
vga=padra

to 
vga=788

 image=/boot/map
 label=map
 root=/dev/hdc6
 read-only
 
 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
 label=2.4.21-0.13
 root=/dev/hdc6
 read-only
 
 image=/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
 label=Linux_Compiled
 root=/dev/hdc6
 read-only
 optional
 
 image=/dev/hdd1
 root=/dev/hdc6
 
 image=/dev/hdd1
 root=/dev/hdc6
 
 image=/dev/hdd1
 root=/dev/hdc6
 

Why do you have three of the same entries? What are these for anyway? I
think you would be safe in getting rid of these.

 other=dev/hdd1
 label=windows
 table=/dev/hdd
 map-drive=0x80
 to=0x81
 map-drive=0x81
 to=0x80
 
 

After making the changes, run lilo as root.

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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-08 Thread Flávio Henrique
 Why do you have three of the same entries? What are these for anyway? I
 think you would be safe in getting rid of these.
 
  other=dev/hdd1
  label=windows
  table=/dev/hdd
  map-drive=0x80
  to=0x81
  map-drive=0x81
  to=0x80
  
  
 
 After making the changes, run lilo as root.
 
 John Drouhard

Ok... I made these changes and run #lilo...
now the message is the following:

Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
Added map *
Added 2.4.21-0.13
Skipping /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
Fatal: open dev/hdd1: No such file or directory


seems to be not right...

and the /dev/hdd1 is mounted, so the file exist...

look the last line:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# mount
/dev/hdc6 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)
none on /dev type devfs (rw)
/dev/hdc1 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620)
none on /home/dug/d type supermount
(rw,dev=/dev/hdd6,fs=vfat,--)
none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount

(ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0)
none on /mnt/floppy type supermount
(rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0)
/dev/hdd1 on /mnt/hd type vfat
(rw,nosuid,nodev,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,user=dug)


what now ?

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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-08 Thread John Drouhard
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:31:50 +
Flávio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Why do you have three of the same entries? What are these for
  anyway? I think you would be safe in getting rid of these.
  
   other=dev/hdd1
   label=windows
   table=/dev/hdd
   map-drive=0x80
   to=0x81
   map-drive=0x81
   to=0x80
   
   
  
  After making the changes, run lilo as root.
  
  John Drouhard
 
 Ok... I made these changes and run #lilo...
 now the message is the following:
 
 Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
 Added map *
 Added 2.4.21-0.13
 Skipping /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
 Fatal: open dev/hdd1: No such file or directory
 
 
 seems to be not right...


Ok, let me ask you why you have an entry that will try to boot
/boot/map?

This is my /etc/lilo.conf:

boot=/dev/hdc
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
default=linux-mm.
keytable=/boot/us.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=80
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw

image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hdc5
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=noapic devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi hdb=ide-scsi acpi=ht   
vga=794
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-10mm.1mdk
label=linux-mm
root=/dev/hdc5
read-only
optional
vga=794
append=noapic devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi hdb=ide-scsi acpi=ht
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.22-10mm.1mdk.img
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hdc5
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=failsafe noapic devfs=nomount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=ht 
read-only 
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
map-drive=0x80
   to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
   to=0x80
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

I suggest you model yours after mine, making the necessary adjustments.
The syntax is not that hard to understand. Once you have updated your
lilo.conf, post it here. Note, the append line will be completely
different for you, so I suggest you skip these lines in your file.
append=failsafe is required if you want to boot into failsafe,
however.

HTH,
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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-07 Thread yankl
On Thursday 09 October 2003 04:46 am, Flávio Henrique wrote:
 Hi...
 I'm very newbie in Linux and I have a problem to make something here...

 After install Mandrake 9.1 in my hd, I bring another with win98 already
 have and install it...

 I trying to insert the win98 in LILO menu but it does not work...

 The hd that have md9.1 is hdc6 and the other, that have win98, is
 hdd1...

 What I did:
 Configuration - KDE - System - Boot Manager (LILO)
 in the second page (OS), Add another SO:
   boot disk = /dev/hdd1
   label = windows98
 Ok - Ok...
 even do that, the option to enter in windows98 does not show in LILO
 menu...

 What I miss or what I did wrong ??

 thanx in advance...

 Flávio Henrique
Go to the command line and as root run lilo command:
#su
#lilo

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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-07 Thread Flávio Henrique
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 00:52, yankl wrote:
 On Thursday 09 October 2003 04:46 am, Flávio Henrique wrote:
  Hi...
  I'm very newbie in Linux and I have a problem to make something here...
 
  After install Mandrake 9.1 in my hd, I bring another with win98 already
  have and install it...
 
  I trying to insert the win98 in LILO menu but it does not work...
 
  The hd that have md9.1 is hdc6 and the other, that have win98, is
  hdd1...
 
  What I did:
  Configuration - KDE - System - Boot Manager (LILO)
  in the second page (OS), Add another SO:
  boot disk = /dev/hdd1
  label = windows98
  Ok - Ok...
  even do that, the option to enter in windows98 does not show in LILO
  menu...
 
  What I miss or what I did wrong ??
 
  thanx in advance...
 
  Flávio Henrique
 Go to the command line and as root run lilo command:
 #su
 #lilo

After type lilo I receive a following message:
Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
Fatal: Not a number: padrã
and nothing happens...

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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-07 Thread ed tharp
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 07:10, Flávio Henrique wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 00:52, yankl wrote:
  On Thursday 09 October 2003 04:46 am, Flávio Henrique wrote:
   Hi...
   I'm very newbie in Linux and I have a problem to make something here...
  
   After install Mandrake 9.1 in my hd, I bring another with win98 already
   have and install it...
  
   I trying to insert the win98 in LILO menu but it does not work...
  
   The hd that have md9.1 is hdc6 and the other, that have win98, is
   hdd1...
  
   What I did:
   Configuration - KDE - System - Boot Manager (LILO)
   in the second page (OS), Add another SO:
 boot disk = /dev/hdd1
 label = windows98
   Ok - Ok...
   even do that, the option to enter in windows98 does not show in LILO
   menu...
  
   What I miss or what I did wrong ??
  
   thanx in advance...
  
   Flávio Henrique
  Go to the command line and as root run lilo command:
  #su
  #lilo
 
 After type lilo I receive a following message:
   Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
   Fatal: Not a number: padrã
 and nothing happens...
 
 Flávio Henrique
 
 
 
 I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you don't
 have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position on the
 ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition. I don't think you are
 gonna get win9x on without it being on the first partition of the
 first drive on the first IDE bus, ie hda1 or maybe hda5. 
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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-07 Thread Flávio Henrique
  
  
  
  I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you don't
  have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position on the
  ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition. I don't think you are
  gonna get win9x on without it being on the first partition of the
  first drive on the first IDE bus, ie hda1 or maybe hda5. 
  __
  
my Linux is in hdc6
and my win98 is in hdd1

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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-07 Thread Aron Smith
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 19:27, ed tharp wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 07:10, Flávio Henrique wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 00:52, yankl wrote:
   On Thursday 09 October 2003 04:46 am, Flávio Henrique wrote:
Hi...
I'm very newbie in Linux and I have a problem to make something here...
   
After install Mandrake 9.1 in my hd, I bring another with win98 already
have and install it...
   
I trying to insert the win98 in LILO menu but it does not work...
   
The hd that have md9.1 is hdc6 and the other, that have win98, is
hdd1...
   
What I did:
Configuration - KDE - System - Boot Manager (LILO)
in the second page (OS), Add another SO:
boot disk = /dev/hdd1
label = windows98
Ok - Ok...
even do that, the option to enter in windows98 does not show in LILO
menu...
   
What I miss or what I did wrong ??
   
thanx in advance...
   
Flávio Henrique
   Go to the command line and as root run lilo command:
   #su
   #lilo
  
  After type lilo I receive a following message:
  Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
  Fatal: Not a number: padrã
  and nothing happens...
  
  Flávio Henrique
  
  
  
  I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you don't
  have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position on the
  ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition. I don't think you are
  gonna get win9x on without it being on the first partition of the
  first drive on the first IDE bus, ie hda1 or maybe hda5. 
I seem to remember something about Win9x insisting that it be first
because of a nasty habit of rewriting the boot sector.
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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-07 Thread John Drouhard
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 11:32:29 +
Flávio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
   
   
   I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you
   don't have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive
   position on the ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition. I
   don't think you are gonna get win9x on without it being on the
   first partition of the first drive on the first IDE bus, ie hda1
   or maybe hda5.
   _
   _
   
 my Linux is in hdc6
 and my win98 is in hdd1
 

Make this your windows entry in /etc/lilo.conf:

other=/dev/hdd1
label=windows
table=/dev/hdd
map-drive=0x80
to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
to=0x80


Save the file, then (without the # sign)

#su
(enter root password)
#lilo

HTH,
John Drouhard


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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-07 Thread Flávio Henrique
my Linux is in hdc6
  and my win98 is in hdd1
  
 
 Make this your windows entry in /etc/lilo.conf:
 
 other=/dev/hdd1
   label=windows
   table=/dev/hdd
   map-drive=0x80
   to=0x81
   map-drive=0x81
   to=0x80
 
 
 Save the file, then (without the # sign)
 
 #su
 (enter root password)
 #lilo
well... I did it... but as root, 'cause my normal user don't have
permission...
but I'm still receiving the same message..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# lilo
Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
Fatal: Not a number: padrã
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]#


Flávio Henrique
 
 HTH,
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Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??

2003-10-07 Thread Russ
It worked for me.

I installed Linux 9.0 on a brand new 60 gig HD then slaved my old 40 gig 
Win98 drive to that one, pointed Lilo to it and it booted just fine. My 
Win drive has since crashed altogether so I am totally Linux now.

I did my editing in MCC

Russ


I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you don't
have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position on the
ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition. I don't think you are
gonna get win9x on without it being on the first partition of the
first drive on the first IDE bus, ie hda1 or maybe hda5. 
I seem to remember something about Win9x insisting that it be first
because of a nasty habit of rewriting the boot sector.


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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-04 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 03 October 2003 01:33 pm, mwafkowski wrote:
 There is no Kentucky Fried Chicken, remember, as in Kentucy - associated
 with rednecks?/fried chicken-as in fried=heart attacks.

 It's KFC to you , Suh!

 MRW

Well, I do live in Kentucky...

I did stain (cedar siding) part of my house yesterday, so the back of my neck 
could be a bit red...from the Sun...

and I like fried chicken, so I guess I'll take my chances :-)

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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-04 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 03 October 2003 05:31 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:

 hehe... hm... think they'd let me off if I put the little Copyright
 symbol in there?

Debatable...

 Running from Col.Sanders
 Femme

Hehehehe, you better - I hear one of his fav slogans is the birds the 
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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-04 Thread Aron Smith
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 02:39, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 03 October 2003 05:31 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 
  hehe... hm... think they'd let me off if I put the little Copyright
  symbol in there?
 
 Debatable...
 
  Running from Col.Sanders
  Femme
 
 Hehehehe, you better - I hear one of his fav slogans is the birds the 
 word lol
As the Taxidermist said(while. taking his girlfriend to dinner) you
gotta stuff the bird before you mount  it


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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-04 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 04 October 2003 11:53 am, Aron Smith wrote:

 As the Taxidermist said(while. taking his girlfriend to dinner) you
 gotta stuff the bird before you mount  it

Yea, and I'm a firm believer that one in the bush is worth 2 in the hand 
anytime wicked grin

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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-04 Thread Heather/Femme
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 21:17:10 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 02:08, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 
  Femme:
  Well, now we know why you didn't choose a career in the diplomatic
  service.-- cmg
 
 Yeah - that might be true...God...I wanted to say something horribly
 rude, but I can't bring myself to do it - FEMME - HAND ME SOME DRUGS.
 NOW. PRONTO.
 
 stephen kuhn - owner

*gives stephen some morphine...* cut em in half so they don't kill you
dear  call the paramedics if you start breathing very shallowly orgoing
too numb.

:)

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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-04 Thread Heather/Femme
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 21:27:41 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 03:07, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  On Thursday 02 October 2003 10:31 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
  
   Finger-Licking-Good-Femme
  
   (or so they tell me)
  
  roflol I can see a herd of lawyers from Kentucky Fried Chicken
  bearing down on you, even as we speak Femme!  :-)
 
 Brings to mind the same old question:
 
 Smells like fish - tastes like chicken
 Smells like chicken - tastes like fish
 
 ??
 
 Only FEMME can answer that one...
 
 stephen kuhn - owner

*blink...*

I'm not touching that one... EVER...

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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-03 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Thursday 02 October 2003 07:52 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700

 M J Pipkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy.  Please send
  no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from your list.

 and who the flying monkey fuck are you?

 remove yourself.

 don't bitch at us for signing you up...you did that yourself or someone
 who knows your address did.

 Femme

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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-03 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 02 October 2003 10:31 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:

 Finger-Licking-Good-Femme

 (or so they tell me)

roflol I can see a herd of lawyers from Kentucky Fried Chicken bearing 
down on you, even as we speak Femme!  :-)

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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-03 Thread mwafkowski
There is no Kentucky Fried Chicken, remember, as in Kentucy - associated
with rednecks?/fried chicken-as in fried=heart attacks.

It's KFC to you , Suh!

MRW
- Original Message - 
From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?


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  Finger-Licking-Good-Femme
 
  (or so they tell me)

 roflol I can see a herd of lawyers from Kentucky Fried Chicken bearing
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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-03 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:08:42 -0400
Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 02 October 2003 07:52 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
  On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700
 
  M J Pipkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy.  Please
   send no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from
   your list.
 
  and who the flying monkey fuck are you?
 
  remove yourself.
 
  don't bitch at us for signing you up...you did that yourself or
  someone who knows your address did.
 
  Femme
 
 Femme:
 Well, now we know why you didn't choose a career in the diplomatic
 service.-- cmg
 
 
 
heh Mr.Curmudgeon yessir... I um got up on the wrong side of the
email that day.

ya... I suck at diplomacy some days... :)  least I admit it?

F

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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-03 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:07:42 -0400
Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 02 October 2003 10:31 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 
  Finger-Licking-Good-Femme
 
  (or so they tell me)
 
 roflol I can see a herd of lawyers from Kentucky Fried Chicken
 bearing down on you, even as we speak Femme!  :-)
 
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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 02 Oct 2003 1:44 am, Damian Gatabria wrote:

 Whenever a desktop user sees a problem in his screen, he/she
 goes uf, grabs the phone and calls you.

 This is why they seem so stubborn and closed-minded about change.
 It's, quite simply, not their concern. You (we) are the ones
 supposed to keep the computer going. right? That's what
 we get paid for.

You overlook the fear element.  It is very real for many people

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-02 Thread Damian Gatabria
El jue, 02-10-2003 a las 03:03, Anne Wilson escribió:
 On Thursday 02 Oct 2003 1:44 am, Damian Gatabria wrote:
 
  Whenever a desktop user sees a problem in his screen, he/she
  goes uf, grabs the phone and calls you.
 
  This is why they seem so stubborn and closed-minded about change.
  It's, quite simply, not their concern. You (we) are the ones
  supposed to keep the computer going. right? That's what
  we get paid for.
 
 You overlook the fear element.  It is very real for many people
 
 Anne

You are right... forgot about the fear thingy. Thanks. 



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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-02 Thread ed tharp
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 21:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote:


 And now you know why I haven't gotten the nerve to try to resuscitate my old 
 Win98SE installation since I rebuilt my system four months ago. I don't need 
 no aggravation.
 -- cmg
 
 
this statement makes me wonder,,,
I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few problems
(me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I know I 'can'
fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't need to bother
with those partitions. I wonder how many of 'previous' dual-booters are
waiting for hell to freeze before they find the time to fix their MS
partitions.  


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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-02 Thread mike
ed tharp wrote:

On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 21:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

 

And now you know why I haven't gotten the nerve to try to resuscitate my old 
Win98SE installation since I rebuilt my system four months ago. I don't need 
no aggravation.
-- cmg

   

this statement makes me wonder,,,
I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few problems
(me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I know I 'can'
fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't need to bother
with those partitions. I wonder how many of 'previous' dual-booters are
waiting for hell to freeze before they find the time to fix their MS
partitions.  

 

to me , the only reason to fix the win partition is if you use it for 
something.
I use  1. ( one ) , ( uno ) programs that I can't run in linux. 
otherwise I'd
simply remove windows altogether. if you have to run a win app thru 
crossover
or need excel or something, you kinda have to fix them sometimes.

sadly I have fixed windows partition way too many times.



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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-02 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 20:43, ed tharp wrote:

 this statement makes me wonder,,,
 I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few problems
 (me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I know I 'can'
 fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't need to bother
 with those partitions. I wonder how many of 'previous' dual-booters are
 waiting for hell to freeze before they find the time to fix their MS
 partitions.  

I've got an XP Pro partition on my server - it's been a year since it's
been booted - two motherboards and some other hardware since that time -
and the thought of even taking the server down aside from it's monthly
dust-out/shutdown - which I try to minimise the downtime - can't seem to
bring myself to even TRYING booting into the XP Pro partition...hate to
think how much shit I'll have to deal with in the first place - finding
all the new hardware - drivers - reboots - and THEN the frigging patches
- yikes...nah...it's a small partition and I'll save it for a really
really rainy day...if ever...

If I want to torture myself enough, I fire up a VM session - and only
for a short while...that's bad enough...

Besides, I'm married. I'm tortured enough as it is without having
Micro$SCOft torture me further...

stephen kuhn - owner
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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-02 Thread Charlie M.
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October 2, 2003 04:43 am, ed tharp wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 21:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  And now you know why I haven't gotten the nerve to try to resuscitate my
  old Win98SE installation since I rebuilt my system four months ago. I
  don't need no aggravation.
  -- cmg

 this statement makes me wonder,,,
 I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few problems
 (me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I know I 'can'
 fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't need to bother
 with those partitions. I wonder how many of 'previous' dual-booters are
 waiting for hell to freeze before they find the time to fix their MS
 partitions.

Hi Ed;

I played the dual boot game for nearly two years; until one day I decided that 
I needed a local mirror of some distribution or other and the only 
available space of an adequate size on any partition on any of the drives 
was where Windows 98 SE lived. I actually had to try to remember when the 
last time I had booted that OS was. 3 months was my best guess. 

That's where the mirror went. This all happened in the year 2000. So I guess 
you could say I fixed my MS drive. 

Permanently. G

Charlie
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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 02 Oct 2003 11:43 am, ed tharp wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 21:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  And now you know why I haven't gotten the nerve to try to
  resuscitate my old Win98SE installation since I rebuilt my system
  four months ago. I don't need no aggravation.
  -- cmg

 this statement makes me wonder,,,
 I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few
 problems (me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I
 know I 'can' fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't
 need to bother with those partitions. I wonder how many of
 'previous' dual-booters are waiting for hell to freeze before they
 find the time to fix their MS partitions.

That's how I lost w2k.  I started out on w2k/w98/Mdk8.1

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?

2003-10-02 Thread Heather/Femme
On 02 Oct 2003 06:43:41 -0400
ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 21:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 
 
  And now you know why I haven't gotten the nerve to try to
  resuscitate my old Win98SE installation since I rebuilt my system
  four months ago. I don't need no aggravation.
  -- cmg
  
  
 this statement makes me wonder,,,
 I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few
 problems(me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I know
 I 'can' fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't need to
 bother with those partitions. I wonder how many of 'previous'
 dual-booters are waiting for hell to freeze before they find the time
 to fix their MS partitions.  
 

some day I may hose windows...and if I do..well I'll fix it asap likely
as there is still stuff I only do in windows..though that is diminishing
rapidly...as I have not booted to windows in 4 weeks now. :)

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