Re: [newbie] ADSL.
Dear Mr Jennings, Thank you for your info. I did look at your url and that wa mot helpfull. Best wishes, Malcolm. On Monday 21 Mar 2005 21:56, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 21 March 2005 20:55, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can any one give me ideas on the best broadband provider for Mandrake-Linux. At present I have a dial up modem and have been so far attracted to Metronet who charge only £10 per month: although there are extra charges for heavy downloads. Can Linux work with any provider as in the case of dial up. With thanks for your time. Malcolm Candlish. Linux will work with any ADSL provider in the UK. They may say it does not, and they ,may try to stop you using it, but it will work. Some ISPs are quite Linux friendly. Plusnet and Pipex come to mind. What is more important is the ADSL modem you use. Some are simply not supported, and others are not supported very well. For example the USB modem BT supply free with their broadband service is AFAIK NOT supported, while the Alcatel USB modem supplied by many ISPs such as Pipex IS supported. Avoid PCI ADSL modems. They are only supported with proprietary firmware and while models such as the Connectix does work with Linux it is such a pain to get working it is not worth the effort. The safest hardware to use is a standalone ethernet connected ADSLmodem/router. These are scarcely any more expensive than a DSL modem and offer firewall protection. The ebuyer.co.uk own brand single port DSL router works well and is really cheap. An external DSL modem/router looks just like an ordinary Ethernet connection to Linux and does not need any special drivers. If you want to read feedback of Linux users on DSL in the UK browse the forums at http://www.adslguide.org/ derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
Dear Anne, You cover the position well. I am contacting a number of providers and hope I may find success. Best wishes, Malcolm. On Monday 21 Mar 2005 21:24, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 21 Mar 2005 20:55, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can any one give me ideas on the best broadband provider for Mandrake-Linux. At present I have a dial up modem and have been so far attracted to Metronet who charge only £10 per month: although there are extra charges for heavy downloads. Do your costings carefully, particularly if you intend to download future distros or use bittorrent. My provider is mailbox.co.uk, which is not the cheapest, but because it is unlimited I think it is good value. Can Linux work with any provider as in the case of dial up. It's not so much that, as that many providers can't or won't work with linux. It's simple enough, really, if they will give you straightforward information that you need to set up your connection, but some simply will not talk to you if you are going to use linux. I would suggest that you email the support line of any provider you are considering, tell them that you are going to be using linux and ask if you will have any problems. You will quickly be able to tell from their replies whether they are going to be good to work with or a PITA. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
Dear Julie, Apologies for the Sir! I am certainly contacting your provider and thank you for your tip. Best wishes, Malcolm. On Monday 21 Mar 2005 21:08, Julie Sloan wrote: On Monday 21 March 2005 03:55 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can any one give me ideas on the best broadband provider for Mandrake-Linux. At present I have a dial up modem and have been so far attracted to Metronet who charge only £10 per month: although there are extra charges for heavy downloads. Can Linux work with any provider as in the case of dial up. Not a sir, but I am having no problem connecting with earthlink dialup regardless. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 06:39 am, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Dear Julie, Apologies for the Sir! I am certainly contacting your provider and thank you for your tip. Dear Malcolm, Apology not necessary and I in turn apologize for my grumpiness. Must have had a low BAC that day or something. Good luck with connecting to your new linux adventure. :) -- Julie On Monday 21 Mar 2005 21:08, Julie Sloan wrote: On Monday 21 March 2005 03:55 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Not a sir, but I am having no problem connecting with earthlink dialup regardless. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 09:49 am, Julie Sloan wrote: On Tuesday 22 March 2005 06:39 am, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Dear Julie, Apologies for the Sir! I am certainly contacting your provider and thank you for your tip. Dear Malcolm, Apology not necessary and I in turn apologize for my grumpiness. Must have had a low BAC that day or something. Good luck with connecting to your new linux adventure. :) If they service your area try ispwest http://www.ispwest.com/ Very good tech support and linux friendly too (also a lot cheaper than earthlink) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 20:55, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can any one give me ideas on the best broadband provider for Mandrake-Linux. At present I have a dial up modem and have been so far attracted to Metronet who charge only £10 per month: although there are extra charges for heavy downloads. Can Linux work with any provider as in the case of dial up. With thanks for your time. Malcolm Candlish. As you can see ...works with Eclipse :-) Eclipse might not be cheapest, but is definitely reliable and no limits. I use a router, but I've just set up my mates box on Mandrake 10.1 and Eclipse with one of those little silver speedtouch thingys. Speedtouch suite worked like a charm. Any ISP should work with the router (even AOL?). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
On Monday 21 March 2005 03:55 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can any one give me ideas on the best broadband provider for Mandrake-Linux. At present I have a dial up modem and have been so far attracted to Metronet who charge only £10 per month: although there are extra charges for heavy downloads. Can Linux work with any provider as in the case of dial up. Not a sir, but I am having no problem connecting with earthlink dialup regardless. -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 20:55, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can any one give me ideas on the best broadband provider for Mandrake-Linux. At present I have a dial up modem and have been so far attracted to Metronet who charge only £10 per month: although there are extra charges for heavy downloads. Do your costings carefully, particularly if you intend to download future distros or use bittorrent. My provider is mailbox.co.uk, which is not the cheapest, but because it is unlimited I think it is good value. Can Linux work with any provider as in the case of dial up. It's not so much that, as that many providers can't or won't work with linux. It's simple enough, really, if they will give you straightforward information that you need to set up your connection, but some simply will not talk to you if you are going to use linux. I would suggest that you email the support line of any provider you are considering, tell them that you are going to be using linux and ask if you will have any problems. You will quickly be able to tell from their replies whether they are going to be good to work with or a PITA. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpgrE4RZ03Jc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
Thanks Derek and others. I got it sorted by installing Linux in my Windows PC. It worked at the first instance. Derek's inputs were quite useful. The problem could be with the Ethernet card I guess or some wrong configuration already in my Linux. Cheers Amala Singh. - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA On Thursday 02 December 2004 11:11, amalasingh wrote: I set it as LAN connection. It was asking me to configure IP and subnet mask. I entered 10.0.0.2 and subnet mask 255.255.255.0 http://10.0.0.2 works. But unfortunately the browser brings my local host instead of the admin webpage from the router. I dont know why. By setting an Automatic configuration, it says £Connection refused for 10.0.0.2. But it does not give the same error message for some dummy IP addresses. I also went to console and entered /sbin/dhclient one of the error messages was sit0 not configured. Thanks Amala Singh 10.0.0.2 is the address of the router. You must not use the same address yourself. That is why your browser is connecting to localhost. If you set an address manually then use a different address such as 10.0.0.20 (It must not be the same as any other computer on your network) If you set a manual IP address, then you must also set the gateway address. The gateway address is the address of the device with access to the internet. That is your router, so your gateway is 10.0.0.2 Finally you must declare the address of your DNS server which maps web names to IP addresses. That is defined in MandrakeControlCentreNetworkInternet access. Your router may be acting as a DNS proxy so you could try putting 10.0.0.2 in there, or else go to your ISPs support pages and find the address of their DNS server. But it should work when you use DHCP. I asked you yesterday if you got an IP address when you used DHCP? Do you get an IP address? If you do then what happens if you open a terminal and type ping 68.142.226.32 Do you get a response? (Ctl+C) to stop it) and what happens if you do ping www.yahoo.com ? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
I set it as LAN connection. It was asking me to configure IP and subnet mask. I entered 10.0.0.2 and subnet mask 255.255.255.0 http://10.0.0.2 works. But unfortunately the browser brings my local host instead of the admin webpage from the router. I dont know why. By setting an Automatic configuration, it says £Connection refused for 10.0.0.2. But it does not give the same error message for some dummy IP addresses. I also went to console and entered /sbin/dhclient one of the error messages was sit0 not configured. Thanks Amala Singh - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA On Wednesday 01 December 2004 21:22, amalasingh wrote: Anne/Derek, Tnx for your responses. http://10.0.0.2 works fine with Windows. First time it looks for user name password. Then we can configure the webstation. I went to configure hardware and selected Ethernet Card. Ran Config Tool- ADSL Connection-DHCP etc. Mozilla says connection refused for 10.0.0.2 (Strangely this didnt appear for other IPs like 196.39.39.3. It just failed resolve the IP) When I rebooted, the message bringing up network interface eth0 failed appears. But when I configure eth0 to Lan, it does not appear. My ethernet card shows the following details. DAVICOM PCI Ethernet 100/10 MBit DM9102 I suspect this is incompatible to the webstation. If so what sort of ethernet card would it accept. Cheers Amala Singh There is nothing wrong with your Ethernet card. Your problem is that you are trying to configure it as an ADSL connection. When you use a router the computer neither knows nor cares that there is a DSL modem inside the router. As far as the computer is concerned it is just an ordinary Ethernet connection. The DSL Connection wizard is there for DSL **modems**. Your modem is the other side of your router so the computer does not have to worry about it. Delete the connection on Eth0 and start again, only this time just declare it to be a Lan connection. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
On Thursday 02 December 2004 11:11, amalasingh wrote: I set it as LAN connection. It was asking me to configure IP and subnet mask. I entered 10.0.0.2 and subnet mask 255.255.255.0 http://10.0.0.2 works. But unfortunately the browser brings my local host instead of the admin webpage from the router. I dont know why. By setting an Automatic configuration, it says £Connection refused for 10.0.0.2. But it does not give the same error message for some dummy IP addresses. I also went to console and entered /sbin/dhclient one of the error messages was sit0 not configured. Thanks Amala Singh 10.0.0.2 is the address of the router. You must not use the same address yourself. That is why your browser is connecting to localhost. If you set an address manually then use a different address such as 10.0.0.20 (It must not be the same as any other computer on your network) If you set a manual IP address, then you must also set the gateway address. The gateway address is the address of the device with access to the internet. That is your router, so your gateway is 10.0.0.2 Finally you must declare the address of your DNS server which maps web names to IP addresses. That is defined in MandrakeControlCentreNetworkInternet access. Your router may be acting as a DNS proxy so you could try putting 10.0.0.2 in there, or else go to your ISPs support pages and find the address of their DNS server. But it should work when you use DHCP. I asked you yesterday if you got an IP address when you used DHCP? Do you get an IP address? If you do then what happens if you open a terminal and type ping 68.142.226.32 Do you get a response? (Ctl+C) to stop it) and what happens if you do ping www.yahoo.com ? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 16:01, amalasingh wrote: Guys, I need ur help regarding installing my ADSL router in my mandrake linux. It works with my windows. People say it should work as soon as we connect. But it doesnt. If you can tell me step by step instructions, that would be nice. The product is 445A Speedlink XDSL web station. The vendor say if I type in 10.0.0.2 I should get into the admin login. But it is just showing my local host. Dont know why? Regards Amala Singh At a guess I would say your router is already working, but networking in Mandrake is not. The lights on the front of the router should tell you its status. If your router was already configured for use with Windows, then it should not need reconfiguring for Linux. If you cannot reach the router admin when you enter 10.0.0.2 in a browser URL line, then that implies networking between your Computer and Linux is not working. Fix that before worrying about your ADSL connection. I am not familiar with that model, is it this one ? http://www.epcbuyer.com/products.asp?recnumber=1545 That router supports either USB or Ethernet connection to the computer. USB connection in Linux is probably possible, but I have no experience of setting it up. Ethernet connection should work very well, so if you are not currently using Ethernet I recommend you try attaching an Ethernet cable. Your Ethernet port on your Linux machine should be set up for DHCP. Use the Mandrake Control Centre NetworkGui to check the configuration. If the connection is good then your Ethernet interface should get an IP address from the router, and you should be able to connect to the router setup screen. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
Derek, I am using Ethernet connection only. To my eyes, it looks that the computer connects to the Router correctly. I can see all the signals from Router and from the port. But I said The connection works in XP means it works in another computer at home. So may be some problems in my ethernet network card or with my Linux. Could you please tell me step by step instructions to connect to the router. I can even try that in the console if Mandrake control center is nt sufficient. (I believe that there is no problem with my network card, as it is new and picked up by Mandrake correctly) Cheers Amala Singh. - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA On Wednesday 01 December 2004 16:01, amalasingh wrote: Guys, I need ur help regarding installing my ADSL router in my mandrake linux. It works with my windows. People say it should work as soon as we connect. But it doesnt. If you can tell me step by step instructions, that would be nice. The product is 445A Speedlink XDSL web station. The vendor say if I type in 10.0.0.2 I should get into the admin login. But it is just showing my local host. Dont know why? Regards Amala Singh At a guess I would say your router is already working, but networking in Mandrake is not. The lights on the front of the router should tell you its status. If your router was already configured for use with Windows, then it should not need reconfiguring for Linux. If you cannot reach the router admin when you enter 10.0.0.2 in a browser URL line, then that implies networking between your Computer and Linux is not working. Fix that before worrying about your ADSL connection. I am not familiar with that model, is it this one ? http://www.epcbuyer.com/products.asp?recnumber=1545 That router supports either USB or Ethernet connection to the computer. USB connection in Linux is probably possible, but I have no experience of setting it up. Ethernet connection should work very well, so if you are not currently using Ethernet I recommend you try attaching an Ethernet cable. Your Ethernet port on your Linux machine should be set up for DHCP. Use the Mandrake Control Centre NetworkGui to check the configuration. If the connection is good then your Ethernet interface should get an IP address from the router, and you should be able to connect to the router setup screen. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
amalasingh wrote: Derek, I am using Ethernet connection only. To my eyes, it looks that the computer connects to the Router correctly. I can see all the signals from Router and from the port. But I said The connection works in XP means it works in another computer at home. So may be some problems in my ethernet network card or with my Linux. Could you please tell me step by step instructions to connect to the router. I can even try that in the console if Mandrake control center is nt sufficient. (I believe that there is no problem with my network card, as it is new and picked up by Mandrake correctly) Cheers Amala Singh. Dumb question - Is this a one port router - in other words, can you only have one computer hooked to it at a time? If so, it sounds like you are trying to change computers hooked to it. If that is the case, you may have to power cycle it before it will talk to a different NIC. I have found this to be true of most of the DSL router/modems. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
No. It has 4 Ethernet ports and a USB port. Also, when I try to connect Linux PC, I disconnect the windows PC, since they are in different rooms. - Original Message - From: Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA amalasingh wrote: Derek, I am using Ethernet connection only. To my eyes, it looks that the computer connects to the Router correctly. I can see all the signals from Router and from the port. But I said The connection works in XP means it works in another computer at home. So may be some problems in my ethernet network card or with my Linux. Could you please tell me step by step instructions to connect to the router. I can even try that in the console if Mandrake control center is nt sufficient. (I believe that there is no problem with my network card, as it is new and picked up by Mandrake correctly) Cheers Amala Singh. Dumb question - Is this a one port router - in other words, can you only have one computer hooked to it at a time? If so, it sounds like you are trying to change computers hooked to it. If that is the case, you may have to power cycle it before it will talk to a different NIC. I have found this to be true of most of the DSL router/modems. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 19:37, amalasingh wrote: No. It has 4 Ethernet ports and a USB port. Also, when I try to connect Linux PC, I disconnect the windows PC, since they are in different rooms. Maybe I'm not understanding you, but can't you run the windows box on one ethernet port and the linux box on another? There are a lot of advantages to having them networked, one of which is the ability to check that the network is functioning correctly before worrying about Internet connections. It sounds as though you have a configuration problem, so the problem now is to work out a troubleshooting scheme. First, though, I think that you talked about 10.0.0.2 as the address for the router. Do you know if this is correct? Can you check the configuration in the windows box? In fact, I would say that the first thing to do is to write down all the network configuration screens in the windows box if that is working correctly. You are going to need just the same information to set up the linux one, so that will save you a lot of work and worry. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBriP1kFAvMr/nNX8RAuNaAJ9ClZsnFZTtgbqp4iZfAUM2QtD1RwCeNfZL HTNgwqeu9qveeftghdxFuQQ= =3tZy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 19:07, amalasingh wrote: - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA On Wednesday 01 December 2004 16:01, amalasingh wrote: Guys, I need ur help regarding installing my ADSL router in my mandrake linux. It works with my windows. People say it should work as soon as we connect. But it doesnt. If you can tell me step by step instructions, that would be nice. The product is 445A Speedlink XDSL web station. The vendor say if I type in 10.0.0.2 I should get into the admin login. But it is just showing my local host. Dont know why? Regards Amala Singh At a guess I would say your router is already working, but networking in Mandrake is not. The lights on the front of the router should tell you its status. If your router was already configured for use with Windows, then it should not need reconfiguring for Linux. If you cannot reach the router admin when you enter 10.0.0.2 in a browser URL line, then that implies networking between your Computer and Linux is not working. Fix that before worrying about your ADSL connection. I am not familiar with that model, is it this one ? http://www.epcbuyer.com/products.asp?recnumber=1545 That router supports either USB or Ethernet connection to the computer. USB connection in Linux is probably possible, but I have no experience of setting it up. Ethernet connection should work very well, so if you are not currently using Ethernet I recommend you try attaching an Ethernet cable. Your Ethernet port on your Linux machine should be set up for DHCP. Use the Mandrake Control Centre NetworkGui to check the configuration. If the connection is good then your Ethernet interface should get an IP address from the router, and you should be able to connect to the router setup screen. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Derek, I am using Ethernet connection only. To my eyes, it looks that the computer connects to the Router correctly. I can see all the signals from Router and from the port. But I said The connection works in XP means it works in another computer at home. So may be some problems in my ethernet network card or with my Linux. Could you please tell me step by step instructions to connect to the router. I can even try that in the console if Mandrake control center is not sufficient. (I believe that there is no problem with my network card, as it is new and picked up by Mandrake correctly) Cheers Amala Singh. Amala (Plz bottom post it makes it easier for people to follow the thread.) Can you confirm your Ethernet is set to DHCP? Can you confirm it has an IP address? What is it? (It should be on the 10.0.0.x subnet) (MandrakeControl CentreNetworkManageConnections) In the 'Options' Tab make sure the 'start at boot' box is ticked. If that box was not ticked you can go to MandrakeControlCentreSystemServices to start networking without having to reboot. If there is no IP address can you confirm that the cabling is OK? There is probably a little light on your computer's Ethernet connector. It should light when the cable is correctly inserted. There is probably a similar light on your router. Also check your Routers configuration to make sure the Ethernet ports are not disabled. When accessing the router use the mozilla(or firefox) browser. Sometimes these embedded devices do not like non MicroSoft browsers. Mozilla tends to do best in those cases. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
Anne/Derek, Tnx for your responses. http://10.0.0.2 works fine with Windows. First time it looks for user name password. Then we can configure the webstation. I went to configure hardware and selected Ethernet Card. Ran Config Tool- ADSL Connection-DHCP etc. Mozilla says connection refused for 10.0.0.2 (Strangely this didnt appear for other IPs like 196.39.39.3. It just failed resolve the IP) When I rebooted, the message bringing up network interface eth0 failed appears. But when I configure eth0 to Lan, it does not appear. My ethernet card shows the following details. DAVICOM PCI Ethernet 100/10 MBit DM9102 I suspect this is incompatible to the webstation. If so what sort of ethernet card would it accept. Cheers Amala Singh - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 19:37, amalasingh wrote: No. It has 4 Ethernet ports and a USB port. Also, when I try to connect Linux PC, I disconnect the windows PC, since they are in different rooms. Maybe I'm not understanding you, but can't you run the windows box on one ethernet port and the linux box on another? There are a lot of advantages to having them networked, one of which is the ability to check that the network is functioning correctly before worrying about Internet connections. It sounds as though you have a configuration problem, so the problem now is to work out a troubleshooting scheme. First, though, I think that you talked about 10.0.0.2 as the address for the router. Do you know if this is correct? Can you check the configuration in the windows box? In fact, I would say that the first thing to do is to write down all the network configuration screens in the windows box if that is working correctly. You are going to need just the same information to set up the linux one, so that will save you a lot of work and worry. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBriP1kFAvMr/nNX8RAuNaAJ9ClZsnFZTtgbqp4iZfAUM2QtD1RwCeNfZL HTNgwqeu9qveeftghdxFuQQ= =3tZy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 21:22, amalasingh wrote: Anne/Derek, Tnx for your responses. http://10.0.0.2 works fine with Windows. First time it looks for user name password. Then we can configure the webstation. I went to configure hardware and selected Ethernet Card. Ran Config Tool- ADSL Connection-DHCP etc. Mozilla says connection refused for 10.0.0.2 (Strangely this didnt appear for other IPs like 196.39.39.3. It just failed resolve the IP) When I rebooted, the message bringing up network interface eth0 failed appears. But when I configure eth0 to Lan, it does not appear. My ethernet card shows the following details. DAVICOM PCI Ethernet 100/10 MBit DM9102 I suspect this is incompatible to the webstation. If so what sort of ethernet card would it accept. Cheers Amala Singh There is nothing wrong with your Ethernet card. Your problem is that you are trying to configure it as an ADSL connection. When you use a router the computer neither knows nor cares that there is a DSL modem inside the router. As far as the computer is concerned it is just an ordinary Ethernet connection. The DSL Connection wizard is there for DSL **modems**. Your modem is the other side of your router so the computer does not have to worry about it. Delete the connection on Eth0 and start again, only this time just declare it to be a Lan connection. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL router modem set up/445A Speedlink web station/Supanet/PPPoA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 21:22, amalasingh wrote: Anne/Derek, Tnx for your responses. http://10.0.0.2 works fine with Windows. First time it looks for user name password. Then we can configure the webstation. OK - so sit looks as though that's fine, and you just have to get your configuration right. Derek will be able to help you with your dhcp connection far better than I can, but I'll be a bit surprised if the ethernet card is a problem. Can you ping 10.0.0.2? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBrkXJkFAvMr/nNX8RAgtNAJ9HZKrtyzIQi7KPRUvrMuc5taa7tACeNaIK /Q27SfMGL2gLwbFoRs1zlI4= =bL1U -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Dialer
Thanks For the help I appreciate it Alan On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 19:39, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 10 August 2004 10:24 am, Alan wrote: stupid question. Is there a gui based dialer for linux to connect through a pppoe connection? I currently use adsl-connect. Thanks You should be usin 'adsl-start', -connect is for problem connections and only Ctrl-c will kill it. Anyhow... The gui is rp-pppoe-gui It's on your CD's To run it, type 'tkpppoe' as root to set it up, after that you can use it as user if you select that option during setup. The rpm will also install a menu item named Tkpppoe under Internet | Remote Acess (KDE). Personally I find it easier to start/stop the connection from the CL usin aliases to save typing. Mostly I just leave it up 24/7 bringing it down only for system shutdowns (kernel change). alias dsl='adsl-start' alias dsld='adsl-stop' Just because these commands require root privilege, doesn't mean you're online connected as root. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Dialer
On Tuesday 10 August 2004 10:24 am, Alan wrote: stupid question. Is there a gui based dialer for linux to connect through a pppoe connection? I currently use adsl-connect. Thanks You should be usin 'adsl-start', -connect is for problem connections and only Ctrl-c will kill it. Anyhow... The gui is rp-pppoe-gui It's on your CD's To run it, type 'tkpppoe' as root to set it up, after that you can use it as user if you select that option during setup. The rpm will also install a menu item named Tkpppoe under Internet | Remote Acess (KDE). Personally I find it easier to start/stop the connection from the CL usin aliases to save typing. Mostly I just leave it up 24/7 bringing it down only for system shutdowns (kernel change). alias dsl='adsl-start' alias dsld='adsl-stop' Just because these commands require root privilege, doesn't mean you're online connected as root. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL after reboot
Russell Butler wrote: Hi Russel, I also have a Billion 5100 modem/router and have had problems with it while having it setup as ADSL, it was not detecting the Internet connection at all while set up with ADSL connection even though it was picking up the Ethernet connection. I changed my settings to LAN connection (After all a router is on a LAN) and I am no longer having any problems with my Internet connection. It is being detected correctly and using all the settings created on the Modem. I hope this helps. Regards, Craig Sorry this has lost its threading, but I have lost my gmane link, and therefore could not reply (see other topic) Thanks Craig, I have set up as a LAN and certainly no change in communication, so it will be interesting to see if the configuration holds next time I boot Regards Russell If I have this right, the ADSL setting is for when your ISP uses PPPoE or PPPoA to connect. But if your ISP doesn't, or if you are using a hardware firewall, then you use the lan setting. Confusing, isn't it? You have the same prblems setting up a hardware firewall. (Linksys, Netgear, etc...) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL after reboot
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Russell Butler wrote: Hi Russel, I also have a Billion 5100 modem/router and have had problems with it while having it setup as ADSL, it was not detecting the Internet connection at all while set up with ADSL connection even though it was picking up the Ethernet connection. I changed my settings to LAN connection (After all a router is on a LAN) and I am no longer having any problems with my Internet connection. It is being detected correctly and using all the settings created on the Modem. I hope this helps. Regards, Craig Sorry this has lost its threading, but I have lost my gmane link, and therefore could not reply (see other topic) Thanks Craig, I have set up as a LAN and certainly no change in communication, so it will be interesting to see if the configuration holds next time I boot Regards Russell If I have this right, the ADSL setting is for when your ISP uses PPPoE or PPPoA to connect. But if your ISP doesn't, or if you are using a hardware firewall, then you use the lan setting. Confusing, isn't it? You have the same prblems setting up a hardware firewall. (Linksys, Netgear, etc...) Mikkel From what I can see, Mikkel, the PPPoA is being managed by the router/modem, so all you need is an Ethernet link to the router (which has a built-in firewall). Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Adsl-setup
On Thursday 12 February 2004 00:07, Caio wrote: I instaled the beta version of mandrake 10, ans adsl-setup is not even a command... I did the normal instalation... what should I do? Well for 1 don't use HTML, I just rescued you from the spam-bin. 2)How about simply installing it??? Check out cooker. Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Adsl-setup
I instaled the beta version of mandrake 10, ans adsl-setup is not even a command... I did the normal instalation... what should I do? I wish you good luck! I tried a million of ways to get my Speedtouch Adsl modem connected to the Internet and none has succeeded. I shall wait for an improvement in Mandrake regarding that issue. I am sure that better days will come, as connectivity to the Internet is an extremely negative point of Mandrake (and of the other Linux distributions). Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Adsl-setup
I didn't have any problems with SBC global. I'm using ppoe. What problems are you having? Marty On Wednesday 11 February 2004 04:52 pm, Paul Smith wrote: I instaled the beta version of mandrake 10, ans adsl-setup is not even a command... I did the normal instalation... what should I do? I wish you good luck! I tried a million of ways to get my Speedtouch Adsl modem connected to the Internet and none has succeeded. I shall wait for an improvement in Mandrake regarding that issue. I am sure that better days will come, as connectivity to the Internet is an extremely negative point of Mandrake (and of the other Linux distributions). Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Itex driver for Mandrake 9.0?
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 8:58 pm, Paolo Bonavoglia wrote: I don't know weather this is a newbie or expert question, so I send it to both lists. I have installed Mandrake 9.0 in a partition of my PC. Everything went OK, but not for my ADSL Itex PCI card: Mandrake didn't recongnize it and I have a Linux PC which cannot connect to the Internet. I have searched the Web, found some drivers but none worked; the last is an itex1577-2.4.16.o driver; I installed it, but when I try to activate it with the insmod commad, the computer crashes, even the mouse is frozen and I have to restart. Maybe it is a problem of kernel; this driver is for kernel 2.4.16, while Mandrake 9.0 has 2.4.19. Does anyone know a working driver for this unfortunate ADSL card? Obviously I mean a driver which works with Mandrake 9.0 and kernel 2.4.19. Regards Paolo Bonavoglia Unfortunately that driver is a binary closed source driver, and the manufacturer Itex went out of business http://www.itexinc.com/ That is the trouble with closed source drivers. It is not possible to maintain them. From what I read the driver you have will work with RedHat 8.-0 derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Itex driver for Mandrake 9.0?
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 8:58 pm, Paolo Bonavoglia wrote: Does anyone know a working driver for this unfortunate ADSL card? Obviously I mean a driver which works with Mandrake 9.0 and kernel 2.4.19. Many of these ADSL modems are well closed source as another responder says and next to impossible to get working, particularly if you are a 'newbie'. I had an Alcatouch Speedmodem 330 (ugly beetle looking thing) that my ISP gave me when I signed up. Drivers existed for the standard Speedtough that would work with some poking apparently but getting the 330 to work seemed like a MAJOR headache. Often with linux I find it more frustration to be told something MAY work rather than being told it won't because i usually envisage weeks of stress messing aroudn with drivers and kernel patches that usually result in me needing ot reinstall my system again from scratch... Someone gave me their old D-Link DSL-300+g ADSL modem that connects up to the ethernet port managing the whole connection on it's onw which made my life SO much easier I wish to unplug it at night so i can take it ot be with me. Which would sadly mean dropping the connection... unless I got some extension cable... Anyway I reccomend it or something similar. Often in the end it saves a lot of headaches, unless banging away at a peice of uncompatable hardware in the hope of proving the naysayers wrong is your bag :) (It has it's merits, i got my 'paperweight' printer working under linux despite being told it won't work many times) -- PRAEst76 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL setup with USB modem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 15 August 2003 11:27, Josenildo Marques wrote: Hi. I need help. Finally a guy from the tele-phony company visited me to install a fast connection. The thing is he brought a USB modem and he said there is no need of anything else (so, no need of an ethernet card). I ran MCC and tried to configure the modem twice, but everything got frozen and I had to shut down the computer. The modem seems to be produced by Conexant. Any tips highly appreciated. TIA I discovered that I need the driver, which is here. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=47406release_id=169479 And about the modem, I discovered the following 1. Acerca del Conexant AccessRunner USB El Conexant AccessRunner USB es un módem ADSL que se conecta al puerto USB. Conexant (http://www.conexant.com) diseña y fabrica este modelo de referencia que otros fabricantes adaptan a sus necesidades. Este es el caso del modelo Messenger ADSL USB del fabricante Mac System (http://www.macsysco.com/) que se distribuye en España por la empresa Vitelcom (http://www.vitelcom.es) bajo la denominación EPS 5002 USB (Telefónica proporciona el módem con su nombre y debajo de él aparece el nombre de Vitelcom). De ahí que este driver pueda servir para otros módems que utilicen los mismos chips de Conexant. 2. El software, consideraciones previas En este paquete encontrarás el software que permite utilizar el Conexant AccessRunner USB en Linux. Se trata de una versión beta, y como tal, no debe utilizarse en entornos de producción. Aunque pongo todo el esmero posible en el código, no me hago responsable de lo que pueda ocurrir al ejecutar este código. Debido a la falta de información por parte del fabricante no es posible tener las mismas prestaciones que la versión para el sistema Windows. Puedes encontrar este software en http://adslinux.iespana.es/adslinux (los desarrollos más recientes en http://sourceforge.net/projects/accessrunner) y dejar tus comentarios/dudas/problemas en el foro creado en http://boards1.melodysoft.com/app?ID=ADSLinux Doy las gracias a Vitelcom por proporcionarme un módem que me ha permitido mejorar el diseño inicial del driver. info from http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/es/linux/manual.html#sec1 I downloaded the driver and installed it. The modem seems to be working fine. All I need now is an ISP to check it out. Thanks. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/PVFi4eVBtrgQWDsRAuP2AJ4oYZfj3/AiV65G6+IgM0TDbs5YgwCeOHy4 3lW6LqkITxnERPa+YO25/IE= =smjb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL - mgmt.0 - how do I get this ?
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 1:37 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: I can't get mgmt.o from www.speedtouchdsl.com\dvrreg_lx.htm (the address supplied by ML9.1 install). I can't even see 'mgmt.0' mentioned on that site. I downloaded the 'SpeedTouch USB Linux driver' but all I got was a zip which expanded to two files - KQD6P1.eni and KQD6P2.eni. God knows what I am supposed to do with these, but I don't. (I have the old mgmt.0 - which worked with ML8.1 but doesn't appear to work with ML9.1) Advice how to obtain the current mgmt.0 appreciated. Thanks Dave http://www.mandrakeusers.org/downloads.php?sid=684ba8fb8d34c9562a59612e91c934e0 -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL - mgmt.0 - how do I get this ?
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 09 Jun 2003 1:37 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: I can't get mgmt.o from www.speedtouchdsl.com\dvrreg_lx.htm (the address supplied by ML9.1 install). I can't even see 'mgmt.0' mentioned on that site. I downloaded the 'SpeedTouch USB Linux driver' but all I got was a zip which expanded to two files - KQD6P1.eni and KQD6P2.eni. God knows what I am supposed to do with these, but I don't. (I have the old mgmt.0 - which worked with ML8.1 but doesn't appear to work with ML9.1) Advice how to obtain the current mgmt.0 appreciated. Thanks Dave http://www.mandrakeusers.org/downloads.php?sid=684ba8fb8d34c9562a59612e91c93 4e0 -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Got it ! Thanks DJ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL again
Hi. On Wed 2003-04-02 at 07:44:00 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah...it is a fresh Mandrake 9.1-install where I have added both PPP and RP-PPPoE afterwards. RP-version is 3.5-3 which I downloaded from rpmfind.net. The only 3.5-3 I find there is for some PLD Linux Distribution. They seem to be similar to Mandrake, because they once took their rp-pppoe package (you can see that in the changelog), but I wouldn't imply too much into that. I will try to remove that version and install 3.5-2 in case something is misbehaving because of that. It should not normally be so I guess, Yes, that *is* normally so. You may not expect rpms for one distro to work on another. You wouldn't download some driver for Windows NT when you have Windows ME, would you? That they both use the same installer (RPM) doesn't necessarily mean that they are compatible. If you are lucky, a package works on a different distro. Either because all Linux based distributions are created using the same software pool or because the other distro has the goal to be compatible to the other one (early versions of Mandrake were full compatible with RedHat). An exeption is when a RPM is explicitly declared to be a general one. But that also only implies that it will work on the more common Linux based distros. but I have learned that when dealing with computing and you have a problem it is usually the cause that you don't believe that is actually the cause. What you have is variant of the 9.0/9.1 mixup I assumed, only worse: a 9.1/other mixup. I'll get back to ya people when I have tried that Yes, always nice to hear, if a suggestion helped. Benjamin. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] ADSL again
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:03:56 +0200 Benjamin Pflugmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that *is* normally so. You may not expect rpms for one distro to work on another. You wouldn't download some driver for Windows NT when you have Windows ME, would you? True, but RPMS usually works fine for different distros but not always What you have is variant of the 9.0/9.1 mixup I assumed, only worse: a 9.1/other mixup. No a complete fresh 9.1... I'll get back to ya people when I have tried that Yes, always nice to hear, if a suggestion helped. I am actually up and running now so changing the version of RP-PPPoE worked fine, and now I suspect that the other times I did not have PPP installed, which seems to not have been installed by default with Mdk 9.1, anyway I am happy and up and running. /anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL again
Hi. On Tue 2003-04-01 at 19:14:10 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, here we go, now I think I have located why RP-PPPoE doesn't work however it didn't get me anywhere, I installed PPP2.4.1, which doesn't seems to be installed by default and after some dependencyproblems I got it installed, and then I installed RP-PPPoE-package and tried to run adsl-setup but it claims to not being able to start pppd and that I need to install PPP 2.3.something but as I earlier stated 2.4.1 is installed which rpm -q confirms, anyone knows what I can do there, is a simple reboot enough which seems to be strange There is somthing strange. Which version of Mandrake do you use? ppp-2.4.1 belong to 9.1. But 9.1. comes with the following rp-pppoe: $ rpm -q rp-pppoe rp-pppoe-3.5-2mdk $ rpm -q --requires rp-pppoe ppp = 2.4.1 [...] In other words, you should have been unable to install rp-pppoe-3.5-2mdk without ppp-2.4.1 at least. I am not sure what your problem is, but one possible explanation would be some mixed 9.0/9.1 install. HTH, Benjamin. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] ADSL again
Nah...it is a fresh Mandrake 9.1-install where I have added both PPP and RP-PPPoE afterwards. RP-version is 3.5-3 which I downloaded from rpmfind.net. I will try to remove that version and install 3.5-2 in case something is misbehaving because of that. It should not normally be so I guess, but I have learned that when dealing with computing and you have a problem it is usually the cause that you don't believe that is actually the cause. I'll get back to ya people when I have tried that /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised
Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, i haven't been able to spend much time on this. Will update the list if i manage to get the Speedtouch working on Mdk9.0 Most free time goes to migrating my 8.2 to 9.0, and setting up 9.0 the way i'd like it. Currently making do with using Smoothwall for routing, and Mdk 9.0 behind it for serving mail and news. Will try this again when i've the opportunity, as I would really like to use Mdk 9.0 as my router/NAT too. - Original Message - From: Idea.list2BT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised Hi Stormjumper - my reply is a bottom of this lot - - Original Message - From: Stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] i'm also trying to get my Speedtouch USB to work with Mandrake, ANY mandrake. Idea.list, you referred to documentation that accompanied the packages. i assume you refer to the Mandrake specific packages. can i find out where to find those package specific documentation? as in which RPM they come in, or where they're installed to. thanks. - Original Message - From: Idea.list2BT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday 30 November 2002 09:02 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: Can someone tell me why, with LM-8.2 we simply had to load the USB-Speedtouch file mgmt.o into usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o and then Linux detected it but with LM-9 it doesn't? I was even more disappointed to find that I might have to do god-knows-what to the kernel and recompile it to get Speedtouch recognised by LM-9. Have Mandrake not put the same facilities in LM-9 as they had in 8.2? Mandrake detects all my other peripherals but not this bloody modem. Thanks Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Mandrake has packages on CD1, look for speedtouch, it is the usb ALCETEL modem and you should have the driver and a management package to install. No kernel recompile needed I don't think. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Thanks Dennis Installed the packages you mentioned but modem stil not recognised. The docs that accompanied the packages are a bit ambiguous regarding patches to kernal in order to allow the drivers to work. Will do some more research via google. Still can't see why Mandrake had it working with 8.2 by simply installing mgmt.o and 9.0 now has a problem. Thanks for pointing me in right direction though. Will let you know how I get on - in five years' time. Dave Hi Stormjumper The files are on cd1 as pointed out by Dennis Myers. In windows, assuming your cd is E: the path is E:\Mandrake\RPMS\speedtouch-1.0-3mdk.i586.rpm (I'm back in windows now - so, going from memory) Think it installs in usr/share/doc/speedtouch and in usr/share/speedtouch It expands into several files including several text files with HowTo's etc. When I succesfully installed the Speedtouch USB in LM8.2 (long time ago) I thing it was necessary to remove my network card completely and only put it back after the Speedtouch is working. You also needed to put the mgmt.o file in as usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o Then entered ISP (bt) connection stuff (username etc. - I probably entered the bt prefix as with windows - i.e. mine is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - you are probably something other than hg11). I chose to 'connect at bootup' Rebooted and bingo - worked first time. Now the downer. Others tried this sequence but it didn't work for them. Wish you luck. You are welcome to let me know how you get on or discover any tricks. Dave. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised
- Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday 30 November 2002 09:02 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: Can someone tell me why, with LM-8.2 we simply had to load the USB-Speedtouch file mgmt.o into usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o and then Linux detected it but with LM-9 it doesn't? I was even more disappointed to find that I might have to do god-knows-what to the kernel and recompile it to get Speedtouch recognised by LM-9. Have Mandrake not put the same facilities in LM-9 as they had in 8.2? Mandrake detects all my other peripherals but not this bloody modem. Thanks Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Mandrake has packages on CD1, look for speedtouch, it is the usb ALCETEL modem and you should have the driver and a management package to install. No kernel recompile needed I don't think. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Thanks Dennis Installed the packages you mentioned but modem stil not recognised. The docs that accompanied the packages are a bit ambiguous regarding patches to kernal in order to allow the drivers to work. Will do some more research via google. Still can't see why Mandrake had it working with 8.2 by simply installing mgmt.o and 9.0 now has a problem. Thanks for pointing me in right direction though. Will let you know how I get on - in five years' time. Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised
i'm also trying to get my Speedtouch USB to work with Mandrake, ANY mandrake. Idea.list, you referred to documentation that accompanied the packages. i assume you refer to the Mandrake specific packages. can i find out where to find those package specific documentation? as in which RPM they come in, or where they're installed to. thanks. - Original Message - From: Idea.list2BT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday 30 November 2002 09:02 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: Can someone tell me why, with LM-8.2 we simply had to load the USB-Speedtouch file mgmt.o into usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o and then Linux detected it but with LM-9 it doesn't? I was even more disappointed to find that I might have to do god-knows-what to the kernel and recompile it to get Speedtouch recognised by LM-9. Have Mandrake not put the same facilities in LM-9 as they had in 8.2? Mandrake detects all my other peripherals but not this bloody modem. Thanks Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Mandrake has packages on CD1, look for speedtouch, it is the usb ALCETEL modem and you should have the driver and a management package to install. No kernel recompile needed I don't think. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Thanks Dennis Installed the packages you mentioned but modem stil not recognised. The docs that accompanied the packages are a bit ambiguous regarding patches to kernal in order to allow the drivers to work. Will do some more research via google. Still can't see why Mandrake had it working with 8.2 by simply installing mgmt.o and 9.0 now has a problem. Thanks for pointing me in right direction though. Will let you know how I get on - in five years' time. Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised
Hi Stormjumper - my reply is a bottom of this lot - - Original Message - From: Stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] i'm also trying to get my Speedtouch USB to work with Mandrake, ANY mandrake. Idea.list, you referred to documentation that accompanied the packages. i assume you refer to the Mandrake specific packages. can i find out where to find those package specific documentation? as in which RPM they come in, or where they're installed to. thanks. - Original Message - From: Idea.list2BT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday 30 November 2002 09:02 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: Can someone tell me why, with LM-8.2 we simply had to load the USB-Speedtouch file mgmt.o into usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o and then Linux detected it but with LM-9 it doesn't? I was even more disappointed to find that I might have to do god-knows-what to the kernel and recompile it to get Speedtouch recognised by LM-9. Have Mandrake not put the same facilities in LM-9 as they had in 8.2? Mandrake detects all my other peripherals but not this bloody modem. Thanks Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Mandrake has packages on CD1, look for speedtouch, it is the usb ALCETEL modem and you should have the driver and a management package to install. No kernel recompile needed I don't think. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Thanks Dennis Installed the packages you mentioned but modem stil not recognised. The docs that accompanied the packages are a bit ambiguous regarding patches to kernal in order to allow the drivers to work. Will do some more research via google. Still can't see why Mandrake had it working with 8.2 by simply installing mgmt.o and 9.0 now has a problem. Thanks for pointing me in right direction though. Will let you know how I get on - in five years' time. Dave Hi Stormjumper The files are on cd1 as pointed out by Dennis Myers. In windows, assuming your cd is E: the path is E:\Mandrake\RPMS\speedtouch-1.0-3mdk.i586.rpm (I'm back in windows now - so, going from memory) Think it installs in usr/share/doc/speedtouch and in usr/share/speedtouch It expands into several files including several text files with HowTo's etc. When I succesfully installed the Speedtouch USB in LM8.2 (long time ago) I thing it was necessary to remove my network card completely and only put it back after the Speedtouch is working. You also needed to put the mgmt.o file in as usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o Then entered ISP (bt) connection stuff (username etc. - I probably entered the bt prefix as with windows - i.e. mine is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - you are probably something other than hg11). I chose to 'connect at bootup' Rebooted and bingo - worked first time. Now the downer. Others tried this sequence but it didn't work for them. Wish you luck. You are welcome to let me know how you get on or discover any tricks. Dave. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised
On Sunday 01 December 2002 08:44 am, Stormjumper wrote: i'm also trying to get my Speedtouch USB to work with Mandrake, ANY mandrake. Idea.list, you referred to documentation that accompanied the packages. i assume you refer to the Mandrake specific packages. can i find out where to find those package specific documentation? as in which RPM they come in, or where they're installed to. thanks. - Original Message - From: Idea.list2BT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday 30 November 2002 09:02 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: Can someone tell me why, with LM-8.2 we simply had to load the USB-Speedtouch file mgmt.o into usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o and then Linux detected it but with LM-9 it doesn't? I was even more disappointed to find that I might have to do god-knows-what to the kernel and recompile it to get Speedtouch recognised by LM-9. Have Mandrake not put the same facilities in LM-9 as they had in 8.2? Mandrake detects all my other peripherals but not this bloody modem. Thanks Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Mandrake has packages on CD1, look for speedtouch, it is the usb ALCETEL modem and you should have the driver and a management package to install. No kernel recompile needed I don't think. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Thanks Dennis Installed the packages you mentioned but modem stil not recognised. The docs that accompanied the packages are a bit ambiguous regarding patches to kernal in order to allow the drivers to work. Will do some more research via google. Still can't see why Mandrake had it working with 8.2 by simply installing mgmt.o and 9.0 now has a problem. Thanks for pointing me in right direction though. Will let you know how I get on - in five years' time. Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com One other package to see if you have installed, pptp-adsl-1.0.2xxx this is supposed to have something to do with included support with an Alcatel modem to go through a firewall or something. Worth taking a look at maybe? HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised
- Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] One other package to see if you have installed, pptp-adsl-1.0.2xxx this is supposed to have something to do with included support with an Alcatel modem to go through a firewall or something. Worth taking a look at maybe? HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Thanks Dennis Will probably be away from machine for a few days. Will follow your suggestion upon return. Cheers Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised
On Saturday 30 November 2002 09:02 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: Can someone tell me why, with LM-8.2 we simply had to load the USB-Speedtouch file mgmt.o into usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o and then Linux detected it but with LM-9 it doesn't? I was even more disappointed to find that I might have to do god-knows-what to the kernel and recompile it to get Speedtouch recognised by LM-9. Have Mandrake not put the same facilities in LM-9 as they had in 8.2? Now for the sulky bit - (you don't need to read this, I'm just venting) - and don't tell me that you all don't secretly sulk. I'm feeling very **ck*** sorry for myself! I want my Linux! I've been trying, on and off, for literally years to get into Linux, and Mandrake 8.2 was the closest I've been to a working system. I was finally able to actually start learning Linux with it! Then of course there came closing down problems which led to more probs and that was the end of a working ML8.2 system. I can't easily install a new Linux on my tri-boot machine - Win2000, Win98 (for work reasons) Mandrake - so it wasn't until I noticed that vers 9 was available that I got the enthusiasm to disturb my machine again with a new Linux install. I was at least confident that problems with the USB Speedtouch had been solved way back in the 8.2 past. Instead there seems to have been a step backward. As the USB-Speedtouch is supplied by Britain's largest ISP British Telecom, to all it's ADSL customers there must be so many thousands of punters out there needing it to work with Mandrake I am amazed that Mandrake seem to have chosen to 'withdraw their support??' for it. Mandrake detects all my other peripherals but not this bloody modem. Kernel - Shmernel! I haven't even learned how to escape from the gui and get to the command line yet - that's another prob I've got. (I was weaned on CPM and DOS so I can appreciate the value of using the command line). I don't know why I'm such a fan of Mandrake, perhaps because the RedHat BookDisc kit I bought in 1997 nor the various systems from magazine covers have never worked, perhaps because this has always been such an informative n.g. :-), who knows. If anyone can help I'd apreciate it. Five years of being a Newbie is very embarrasing - what can I tell my kids? Thanks Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Mandrake has packages on CD1, look for speedtouch, it is the usb ALCETEL modem and you should have the driver and a management package to install. No kernel recompile needed I don't think. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL in Norway
Make sure you have pppoe installed to run on top of eth0(network card). You can then configure it in the mandrake control center. -Jay Birger said: Hi there i cant connect to internet in Linux Mandrake 8.2 Im sure its because im a newbie and never used linux before. Im on a norwegian company Telenor (which could not help) using ADSL thanx -- Never do anything against conscience even if the state demands it. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL in Norway
hello, How do you connect to the internet? By a network card or a modem? if you use a network card, type ipconfig in a shell and see what it says, try and ping your gateway and see if that works, make sure u have filled in ur IP adress and ur gateway and subnetmask and atleast 1 DNS server Adrian On Monday 13 May 2002 20.13, you wrote: Hi there i cant connect to internet in Linux Mandrake 8.2 Im sure its because im a newbie and never used linux before. Im on a norwegian company Telenor (which could not help) using ADSL thanx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL in Norway
errr type ifconfig (not ipconfig) in a shell as root On Monday 13 May 2002 22.21, you wrote: hello, How do you connect to the internet? By a network card or a modem? if you use a network card, type ipconfig in a shell and see what it says, try and ping your gateway and see if that works, make sure u have filled in ur IP adress and ur gateway and subnetmask and atleast 1 DNS server Adrian On Monday 13 May 2002 20.13, you wrote: Hi there i cant connect to internet in Linux Mandrake 8.2 Im sure its because im a newbie and never used linux before. Im on a norwegian company Telenor (which could not help) using ADSL thanx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL in Norway
well its working now the funny thing is i just started mozilla and wops i was in im actually using ximian evolution right now writing this mail im happy man, 2002-05-13 kl. 22:21 skrev adrian: hello, How do you connect to the internet? By a network card or a modem? if you use a network card, type ipconfig in a shell and see what it says, try and ping your gateway and see if that works, make sure u have filled in ur IP adress and ur gateway and subnetmask and atleast 1 DNS server Adrian On Monday 13 May 2002 20.13, you wrote: Hi there i cant connect to internet in Linux Mandrake 8.2 Im sure its because im a newbie and never used linux before. Im on a norwegian company Telenor (which could not help) using ADSL thanx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL in Norway
Sweet! hehe :0) On Monday 13 May 2002 21.40, you wrote: well its working now the funny thing is i just started mozilla and wops i was in im actually using ximian evolution right now writing this mail im happy man, 2002-05-13 kl. 22:21 skrev adrian: hello, How do you connect to the internet? By a network card or a modem? if you use a network card, type ipconfig in a shell and see what it says, try and ping your gateway and see if that works, make sure u have filled in ur IP adress and ur gateway and subnetmask and atleast 1 DNS server Adrian On Monday 13 May 2002 20.13, you wrote: Hi there i cant connect to internet in Linux Mandrake 8.2 Im sure its because im a newbie and never used linux before. Im on a norwegian company Telenor (which could not help) using ADSL thanx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL in Norway
yeah it says im ofline and connection failed, but im online so man, 2002-05-13 kl. 23:54 skrev adrian: Sweet! hehe :0) On Monday 13 May 2002 21.40, you wrote: well its working now the funny thing is i just started mozilla and wops i was in im actually using ximian evolution right now writing this mail im happy man, 2002-05-13 kl. 22:21 skrev adrian: hello, How do you connect to the internet? By a network card or a modem? if you use a network card, type ipconfig in a shell and see what it says, try and ping your gateway and see if that works, make sure u have filled in ur IP adress and ur gateway and subnetmask and atleast 1 DNS server Adrian On Monday 13 May 2002 20.13, you wrote: Hi there i cant connect to internet in Linux Mandrake 8.2 Im sure its because im a newbie and never used linux before. Im on a norwegian company Telenor (which could not help) using ADSL thanx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Setup with Mandrake 8.1
Hi, Im sure it is because I screwed something up on the install that mine is not setup correctly. However I did not want to retry it as installing Mandrake 8.1 on a P90 is a little painful. I had a few crashes as well. Because of the spec of my machine I did a fairly small install. Just enough for the firewalling. Then later rpm'd the NDS server as well. Thanks for the info on the network scripts. Ill look into those files when I get home. Re your question. I dont think it will be a problem. In route you can define routes to addresses which dont exist and they will kick in once they are available. So the fact that ppp0 drops from time to time should not matter. In fact mine has dropped once already without any problem (it re-connected automatically and continued to work). Claude. Hi, I've got the same modem as you but the routing is set up correctly. I used drakconf to configure my setup. I see in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts that ifup sets the default route and ifup-ppp deletes any existing route prior to that. It's quite complicated. I'm also planning of setting up a fw using fwbuilder as a front-end. Do you think it is possible to define the external interface in our case since the address we have is not fixed and the interface, ppp0, dissappears from time to time. I haven't looked into it I must admit but if you have any experience... Guy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Setup with Mandrake 8.1
What is in your /etc/resolv.conf file before and after you get it working? On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 20:48, Claudio Mio wrote: First of all can I say its really good that 8,1 has added support for the Alcatel SpeedTouch modem. This has simplified things alot for me! Now onto my problem Ive installed a very small setup of Mandrake 8.1 with firewall support only. The intention is to run it as a firewall/Name Server/Proxy Server/Web Server on my small network at home. The ADSL modem I have setup is the Alcatel SpeedTouch USB. This seems to work however my routing tables dont seem to be setup correctly. When my machine starts it auto connects (everthing looks fine in /var/log/messages). However I cant ping my ISPs DNS server. When I run route to see the routes setup it hangs until I ctrl-break. If I then add a route to my DNS server I then get all these additional entries in my routing table. If I then add a default route via the device ppp0 everything seems to work from my linux box. Ideally I would like this to happen automatically on startup of the box. Any ideas? Thanks Claudio Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Setup with Mandrake 8.1
The /etc/resolv.conf is as follows: nameserver 213.120.62.100 nameserver 213.120.62.101 search localdomain Ive now got something working by adding the following into my rc.local: route del default route add default ppp0 This is a bit quirky though and it smells like Im not doing something right! - Original Message - From: Claudio Mio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL Setup with Mandrake 8.1 Ill need to check when I get home. But from memory I think it contains both the primary and secondary DNS servers. What is in your /etc/resolv.conf file before and after you get it working? On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 20:48, Claudio Mio wrote: First of all can I say its really good that 8,1 has added support for the Alcatel SpeedTouch modem. This has simplified things alot for me! Now onto my problem Ive installed a very small setup of Mandrake 8.1 with firewall support only. The intention is to run it as a firewall/Name Server/Proxy Server/Web Server on my small network at home. The ADSL modem I have setup is the Alcatel SpeedTouch USB. This seems to work however my routing tables dont seem to be setup correctly. When my machine starts it auto connects (everthing looks fine in /var/log/messages). However I cant ping my ISPs DNS server. When I run route to see the routes setup it hangs until I ctrl-break. If I then add a route to my DNS server I then get all these additional entries in my routing table. If I then add a default route via the device ppp0 everything seems to work from my linux box. Ideally I would like this to happen automatically on startup of the box. Any ideas? Thanks Claudio Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Setup with Mandrake 8.1
Hi, I've got the same modem as you but the routing is set up correctly. I used drakconf to configure my setup. I see in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts that ifup sets the default route and ifup-ppp deletes any existing route prior to that. It's quite complicated. I'm also planning of setting up a fw using fwbuilder as a front-end. Do you think it is possible to define the external interface in our case since the address we have is not fixed and the interface, ppp0, dissappears from time to time. I haven't looked into it I must admit but if you have any experience... Guy. Claudio Mio wrote: The /etc/resolv.conf is as follows: nameserver 213.120.62.100 nameserver 213.120.62.101 search localdomain Ive now got something working by adding the following into my rc.local: route del default route add default ppp0 This is a bit quirky though and it smells like Im not doing something right! - Original Message - From: Claudio Mio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL Setup with Mandrake 8.1 Ill need to check when I get home. But from memory I think it contains both the primary and secondary DNS servers. What is in your /etc/resolv.conf file before and after you get it working? On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 20:48, Claudio Mio wrote: First of all can I say its really good that 8,1 has added support for the Alcatel SpeedTouch modem. This has simplified things alot for me! Now onto my problem Ive installed a very small setup of Mandrake 8.1 with firewall support only. The intention is to run it as a firewall/Name Server/Proxy Server/Web Server on my small network at home. The ADSL modem I have setup is the Alcatel SpeedTouch USB. This seems to work however my routing tables dont seem to be setup correctly. When my machine starts it auto connects (everthing looks fine in /var/log/messages). However I cant ping my ISPs DNS server. When I run route to see the routes setup it hangs until I ctrl-break. If I then add a route to my DNS server I then get all these additional entries in my routing table. If I then add a default route via the device ppp0 everything seems to work from my linux box. Ideally I would like this to happen automatically on startup of the box. Any ideas? Thanks Claudio Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] adsl problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Rodrigo Monteiro wrote: Straight Help: www.velocidadejusta.cjb.net/ In Brazil and in Portuguese! If you're using Linux to connect..don't worry That site is always with some kind of virus! So BEWARE windows users! ;-) They said 'next' time they will use a Linux server... but that's not the first time I've heard that from them!! ;-) regarding to the connection... it all depends on where YOU are (geographically, which state) and what company provides de ADSL connection I mean, because we have connections with/without authentication (rpppoe, for example). Ricardo Castanho hi folks !!! i've got an adsl conection in my Mandrake 8.1. I get conected but cannot navigate Can you help-me? i'm loosing my hair over that !please help-me thankss - -- delivery NOT reliable = [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Linux user # 102240 = Machine # 96125 = Seti@home user == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwjUhIACgkQqJymTCNNyXHIwwCfeITXPQx0mT60k/29Xp0VE3cO mQQAnRRXzbrJy+OoxIq7aKs53eB+41DG =ZHnD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] adsl problems
Did you set the propper primary and secondary dns server addresses when you set up pppoe? You get these numbers from your ISP. Second, check to see if it is just as a normal user, or as root as well that you cannot surf, in that case it may be a problem with firewall settings. -Paul Rodríguez On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 18:14, Rodrigo Monteiro wrote: hi folks !!! i've got an adsl conection in my Mandrake 8.1. I get conected but cannot navigate Can you help-me? i'm loosing my hair over that !please help-me thankss ___ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ =_1008890139-11608-836 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] adsl problems
my ADSLwouldn't work until I put the line search vic.bigpond@. above the PDNS and SDNS entries in the resolve.conf file Nev Paul Rodríguez wrote: Did you set the propper primary and secondary dns server addresses when you set up pppoe? You get these numbers from your ISP. Second, check to see if it is just as a normal user, or as root as well that you cannot surf, in that case it may be a problem with firewall settings. -Paul Rodríguez On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 18:14, Rodrigo Monteiro wrote: hi folks !!! i've got an adsl conection in my Mandrake 8.1. I get conected but cannot navigate Can you help-me? i'm loosing my hair over that !please help-me thankss ___ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ =_1008890139-11608-836 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] adsl problems
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:14, Rodrigo Monteiro wrote: hi folks !!! i've got an adsl conection in my Mandrake 8.1. I get conected but cannot navigate Can you help-me? i'm loosing my hair over that !please help-me thankss Talk to your ISP and make sure the IP addresses of his nameservers are entered into the ADSL configuration. His DHCP isn't giving them to you for some weird reason. Civileme ___ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ =_1008890139-11608-836 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] adsl/ethernet adapter... (more problems with the NIC now)
Try looking for modules.conf instead.
ChrisSW
- Original Message -
From: mike cola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:03 AM
Subject: [newbie] adsl/ethernet adapter... (more problems with the NIC now)
actually i spoke prematurely... the card fails to load on startup...
so i took out the details i entered in linuxconf and thought i'd give it
a go using mandrake control centre and it fails on the third step of the
configure, when yiou choose which driver to load.
i'm at a total loss as to where to go from here. i don't really want
tohave to get another NIC as i have 3 (all realtek8019's so can't really
swap em around)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 11:51:57 +1000
Neville Cobb wrote
MIke
You're sort of getting beyond my league now - never used ifconfig before
but my
readout from the command is:
[root@localhost nevcobb]# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:21:EF:5E:15
SNIP:
i'm rapidly trying to get adsl (bipond in australia)setup before my
flatmate leaves taking his windose box with him that i currently use
to connect and while i had my ethernet card (realtek 8019as chipset)
working in 7.2 now i have 8 and i can't seem to get it to detect.
its
set up to irq 12 and io 260h using their dos jumperless program and
i
entered it inot devices under linuxconf, but it doesn't show up
using
ifconfig.. the maximum linux magazine how-to that i am following
says
to add the alias lines to con.modules but i can't find that file and
i
can't remember if i had to do that under 7.2. i think i did but now
how can i add it to a file that i can't find. is it renamed in
mdk8.0
? also i remember under 7.2 i kept trying to connect to bigpond
having
set it up using the terminal adsl-setup but i always timed out and
i
didn't know where to go to see why. what logfile do i check out and
does anyone know what setting it may have been that needed to be
changed?
TIA mike cola
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RE: Re: [newbie] adsl/ethernet adapter.
thanks for all the help so far.. i think i am getting closer... just a few more things to go. the card is now there when i open linuxconf but when i use ifconfig it only shows the lo loopback. how do i change that? Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 10:59:12 +1000 Neville Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike cola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [newbie] adsl/ethernet adapter. Mike Further to my past e-mails on the ADSL topic, attached is a snapshop of my linux config setup. This was done automatically for me using mandrake's ADSL connection tool. Nev -- mike cola wrote: i'm rapidly trying to get adsl (bipond in australia)setup before my flatmate leaves taking his windose box with him that i currently use to connect and while i had my ethernet card (realtek 8019as chipset) working in 7.2 now i have 8 and i can't seem to get it to detect. its set up to irq 12 and io 260h using their dos jumperless program and i entered it inot devices under linuxconf, but it doesn't show up using ifconfig.. the maximum linux magazine how-to that i am following says to add the alias lines to con.modules but i can't find that file and i can't remember if i had to do that under 7.2. i think i did but now how can i add it to a file that i can't find. is it renamed in mdk8.0 ? also i remember under 7.2 i kept trying to connect to bigpond having set it up using the terminal adsl-setup but i always timed out and i didn't know where to go to see why. what logfile do i check out and does anyone know what setting it may have been that needed to be changed? TIA mike cola ...Who's the big winner tonight...? Mikey! Mikey wins! Mikey's the big winner...!- Trent Double Down (Vince Vaughn) -- www.pherell.com TECHNO melbourne style. heard it yet? mike thinks you should Your Lowrider Community... a target=new href=http://www.lowrider.com;http://www.lowrider.com/a Your Personalized Page Start Page... a target=new href=http://my.lowrider.com;http://my.lowrider.com/a Attachment: snapshot1.png ...Who's the big winner tonight...? Mikey! Mikey wins! Mikey's the big winner...!- Trent Double Down (Vince Vaughn) -- www.pherell.com TECHNO melbourne style. heard it yet? mike thinks you should Your Lowrider Community... http://www.lowrider.com Your Personalized Page Start Page... http://my.lowrider.com
Re: [newbie] adsl + lm 8.0 doesn't work
Ok, this is what how I did mine. eth0 hooked to lan, eth1 hooked to modem. Using linuxconf Assign eth0 your chosen ip submask, assign eth1 neither and check enable routing. Uninstall mdk rp-pppoe, and install the rp-pppoe from roaring penquins site. Run mandrake's connection sharing tool (in control center, (it'll shoot you something about it's already configured, but go on with it cause then it will write the ipforwarding script for ya). Run mandrake's firewall tool. Then open console and type adsl-setup, answer the questions, and type adsl-start. If you can't connect or your other computer's can't connect: type: adsl-stop and ifconfig -a and see if both cards show up. If not, insmod the module needed to run it (for example: insmod tulip ). Then ifconfig -a again and see if they are all listed then type adsl-start. Ok, if your cards still don't get enabled upon restart, you should put: insmod your module for each in /etc/rc.d/rc.local file. But hopefully you won't have to do that. Check your /etc/modules.conf file for those two listings. If they are in there and won't initialize, you will have to put them in rc.local, if they are not put them in there instead. if you want your connection to come up at boot, put adsl-start in that same rc.local file. hth, -s On Thursday 24 May 2001 05:47 am, bart deglorie wrote: i have en realtek 8139 and a 3c900b network card the realtek is connected to my alcatel speedtouch home and the 3c900b to a smal local network. the realtek is eth0 and uses a static ip : 10.0.0.1 subnet : 255.0.0.0 the 3c900b also staic ip : 10.0.0.5 subnet 255.255.255.0 lm8.0 seem to keeping mess up these settings, bij one time loading 2 realtek modules , an other time loading to 3c9x modules, or switching them, or even mess my ip settings up i even tried about every combination of setting even changed my ip settings, even with only one network card , but always with the same result : local network works fine but adsl doesn't work. could it maybe be that there is something with kernel 2.4.3 and adsl or the adsl of mandrake does'nt support belgium, or ...
RE: [newbie] ADSL setup
Dave, Thanks in advance for the help.what's already been provided is greatly appreciated. 1. Ran netconf. verified corrected outlined info. 2. Quit netconf; had to manually restart network. A. error reported: done-with error Bringing up interface eth0 determing IP info for eth0 via dhpcd...failed. /sbin/dhpcd already running /sbin/dhpcd:if not then delete /var/run/dhpcd-eth0.pidfile 3. #locate dhcpcd-command not found #find dhcpcd-no such file or directory 4. #ifconfig Link Encap: Local Loopback net addr: 127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX Packets: 2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX Packets: 2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txquelen:0 Hope this covers any dx need dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Sherman Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL setup Dan, As root, run netconf and make sure you are using dhcp for your ethernet card. Click the "Host name and IP network devices" button. In the next dialog, click the "Adapter 1" tab. The Enabled box should be checked (indented), and Dhcp should be selected. The Net device should show eth0, and the Kernel module should show your NIC driver (eepro100, for the Intel Pro/100 NIC I received from Qwest). Accept any changes. Next, click the "Name server specification (DNS)" button. You should have Qwest's domain name server IP addresses in the text boxes for "IP of name server 1" and "IP of name server 2". If not, enter them. If you don't know, use 204.147.80.1 for the first, and 204.147.80.5 for the second. You do NOT need to check the "DNS is required..." box. Accept any changes. Quit netconf. If you made any changes, then netconf should prompt you to restart networking. If it doesn't, you will need to do it manually (in a terminal, as root): /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart If the command fails, then read the error message. It may be that dhcpcd (the dhcp client daemon) is not installed, and therefore you are unable to use dhcp to get your network config. If this is the case, run rpmdrake and install dhcpcd. Then start networking again, as with the restart command above. If you're not sure, try locate dhcpcd. My output looks like this: [root@numidea dave]# locate dhcpcd /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.cache /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info /var/run/dhcpcd-eth0.pid /usr/share/doc/dhcpcd-1.3.19pl1 /usr/share/doc/dhcpcd-1.3.19pl1/README /usr/share/man/man8/dhcpcd.8.bz2 /sbin/dhcpcd [root@numidea dave]# Note the last item, /sbin/dhcpcd. This is the actual program you need. If you have dhcpcd installed and running, then in a terminal, run ifconfig. You output should look something like this: [root@numidea dave]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:03:47:1B:EC:68 inet addr:10.0.0.2 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:17014 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5943 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd400 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:46 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:46 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 [root@numidea dave]# Note the IP address of device "eth0". If you only have "lo" but no "eth0", then your network card isn't initialized -- probably because the dhcp client is either not installed, or not running, or else the driver module failed to load. If you know which module your NIC needs, try "modprobe modulename". If you get an error message, troubleshoot -- wrong module? hardware conflict? module already loaded (this one is ok, that means the driver is already running)? Try restarting networking again (see command above). Next, run route -n. Here's my output (sorry about the column formatting): [root@numidea dave]# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 10.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 [root@numidea dave]# See the third line, starting wiith 0.0.0.0 -- this is your default route. Notice that it is linked to eth0 (last column). Notice the Gateway column. The Gateway entry is the internal IP of your Cisco 678 router. It might not be 10.0.0.1, I don't know if Qwest configures them all the same or not. But if you have a default gateway entry, then it is timie to try and get online. Just launch Netscape. Hope
Re: [newbie] ADSL setup
I am using Qwest DSL and Mandrake 7.2 at this very moment. So I know it works. Question: do you have the Cisco 67x router, or just the internal NIC? I am running the Cisco, which has its own DHCP server built-in. I had to configure the DHCP server to provide my DNS servers and default gateway. I set both my Windows and Mandrake boxes to use DHCP, and everything works perfectly. Dave On Friday 06 April 2001 19:54, Dan Sampsel wrote: I've installed LM 7.2. I'm having a devil of a time setting up my ADSL connection. Everything is functioning in MacroHard. I'm using qwest.net's DSL services. A call to "tech support" yielded the standard "we don't support Linux". Fine. He told me that he "doesn't think" they use PPPoE, only DHCP. Great. When I setup ADSL in Linux try to fire up Netscape, I keep getting "server not found" message. Trying to change Linux to DHCP+PPoE, it responds by telling me I'm currently connected to the internet and gives me 2 options. A. Disconnect, or, B. Change my configuration. What simple problem am I overlooking? Daniel T. Sampsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "...[W]e preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God." (1 Cor 1:23-24)
RE: [newbie] ADSL setup
Dave- I have switched over to the Cisco, since the internal (infernal) Intel 2100 would not provide net access for Linux. Where am I falling down in the configuration process? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Sherman Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 6:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL setup I am using Qwest DSL and Mandrake 7.2 at this very moment. So I know it works. Question: do you have the Cisco 67x router, or just the internal NIC? I am running the Cisco, which has its own DHCP server built-in. I had to configure the DHCP server to provide my DNS servers and default gateway. I set both my Windows and Mandrake boxes to use DHCP, and everything works perfectly. Dave On Friday 06 April 2001 19:54, Dan Sampsel wrote: I've installed LM 7.2. I'm having a devil of a time setting up my ADSL connection. Everything is functioning in MacroHard. I'm using qwest.net's DSL services. A call to "tech support" yielded the standard "we don't support Linux". Fine. He told me that he "doesn't think" they use PPPoE, only DHCP. Great. When I setup ADSL in Linux try to fire up Netscape, I keep getting "server not found" message. Trying to change Linux to DHCP+PPoE, it responds by telling me I'm currently connected to the internet and gives me 2 options. A. Disconnect, or, B. Change my configuration. What simple problem am I overlooking? Daniel T. Sampsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "...[W]e preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God." (1 Cor 1:23-24)
Re: [newbie] ADSL setup
Dan, As root, run netconf and make sure you are using dhcp for your ethernet card. Click the "Host name and IP network devices" button. In the next dialog, click the "Adapter 1" tab. The Enabled box should be checked (indented), and Dhcp should be selected. The Net device should show eth0, and the Kernel module should show your NIC driver (eepro100, for the Intel Pro/100 NIC I received from Qwest). Accept any changes. Next, click the "Name server specification (DNS)" button. You should have Qwest's domain name server IP addresses in the text boxes for "IP of name server 1" and "IP of name server 2". If not, enter them. If you don't know, use 204.147.80.1 for the first, and 204.147.80.5 for the second. You do NOT need to check the "DNS is required..." box. Accept any changes. Quit netconf. If you made any changes, then netconf should prompt you to restart networking. If it doesn't, you will need to do it manually (in a terminal, as root): /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart If the command fails, then read the error message. It may be that dhcpcd (the dhcp client daemon) is not installed, and therefore you are unable to use dhcp to get your network config. If this is the case, run rpmdrake and install dhcpcd. Then start networking again, as with the restart command above. If you're not sure, try locate dhcpcd. My output looks like this: [root@numidea dave]# locate dhcpcd /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.cache /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info /var/run/dhcpcd-eth0.pid /usr/share/doc/dhcpcd-1.3.19pl1 /usr/share/doc/dhcpcd-1.3.19pl1/README /usr/share/man/man8/dhcpcd.8.bz2 /sbin/dhcpcd [root@numidea dave]# Note the last item, /sbin/dhcpcd. This is the actual program you need. If you have dhcpcd installed and running, then in a terminal, run ifconfig. You output should look something like this: [root@numidea dave]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:03:47:1B:EC:68 inet addr:10.0.0.2 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:17014 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5943 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd400 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:46 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:46 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 [root@numidea dave]# Note the IP address of device "eth0". If you only have "lo" but no "eth0", then your network card isn't initialized -- probably because the dhcp client is either not installed, or not running, or else the driver module failed to load. If you know which module your NIC needs, try "modprobe modulename". If you get an error message, troubleshoot -- wrong module? hardware conflict? module already loaded (this one is ok, that means the driver is already running)? Try restarting networking again (see command above). Next, run route -n. Here's my output (sorry about the column formatting): [root@numidea dave]# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 10.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 [root@numidea dave]# See the third line, starting wiith 0.0.0.0 -- this is your default route. Notice that it is linked to eth0 (last column). Notice the Gateway column. The Gateway entry is the internal IP of your Cisco 678 router. It might not be 10.0.0.1, I don't know if Qwest configures them all the same or not. But if you have a default gateway entry, then it is timie to try and get online. Just launch Netscape. Hopefully a page will load. If not, then try pinging 64.37.137.83 (www.sony.com). If you can ping the IP address, then at least you are hitting the web. It's a domain resolution problem. If you can't even ping the IP, try another known IP address, like those DNS entries I gave you above. If you are still stuck, then you aren't even getting outside your router, and possibly not even outside your PC. Try pinging your router (the Gateway IP address). If you can't get it, then you are stuck inside your PC. Time to read the Networking HOWTO and see if it can help you :-) Good luck, Dave On Friday 06 April 2001 20:58, thus spake Dan Sampsel: Dave- I have switched over to the Cisco, since the internal (infernal) Intel 2100 would not provide net access for Linux. Where am I falling down in the configuration process? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Sh
Re: [newbie] adsl and connection loss
At 18:12 10.03.2001 -0500, you wrote: your dsl provider... I missed it if you said it earlier.. ah...its yc:networks www.ycn.com but i dont assume u know it, its an austrian isp (since i am from austria) well.since i posted, the mysterious disconnection has never appeared again..so maybe it was just a bad line... greets --quay -- -Quaylar- Icq# 30932448 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Knowledge is power For confidental email plz encrypt with PGP
Re: [newbie] adsl and connection loss
At 17:51 08.03.2001 -0600, you wrote: On Thursday 08 March 2001 10:15 am, Quaylar wrote: i know for sure that its not the isp, because they say they dont have an idle timeout.. --quay and you've never caught 'em in one of their lies ? yet ;) hehe.no..they dont lie..i believe them.*g*.they are cool guys since they dont have a download limit on their adsl account and they allow server operation (i got a static ip adress too) --quay -- Dale Earnhardt, the greatest stock car driver ever, he's won his 8th and His Greatest Championship Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] adsl and connection loss
so... Qua why don't you tell us a name - Original Message - From: "Quaylar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] adsl and connection loss At 17:51 08.03.2001 -0600, you wrote: On Thursday 08 March 2001 10:15 am, Quaylar wrote: i know for sure that its not the isp, because they say they dont have an idle timeout.. --quay and you've never caught 'em in one of their lies ? yet ;) hehe.no..they dont lie..i believe them.*g*.they are cool guys since they dont have a download limit on their adsl account and they allow server operation (i got a static ip adress too) --quay -- Dale Earnhardt, the greatest stock car driver ever, he's won his 8th and His Greatest Championship Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] adsl and connection loss
At 09:24 10.03.2001 -0500, you wrote: so... Qua why don't you tell us a name which name ?
Re: [newbie] adsl and connection loss
your dsl provider... I missed it if you said it earlier.. - Original Message - From: "Quaylar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] adsl and connection loss At 09:24 10.03.2001 -0500, you wrote: so... Qua why don't you tell us a name which name ?
Re: [newbie] adsl and connection loss
On Thursday 08 March 2001 10:15 am, Quaylar wrote: i know for sure that its not the isp, because they say they dont have an idle timeout.. --quay and you've never caught 'em in one of their lies ? yet ;) -- Dale Earnhardt, the greatest stock car driver ever, he's won his 8th and His Greatest Championship Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
RE: [newbie] adsl and connection loss
At 18:10 06.03.2001 -0600, you wrote: Mine did the same thing after some idle time, a friend told me that if I set my email to check every 10 minutes or so, it would keep the connection alive and stay connected. I tried it and it works, give it a try. so u think its an idle timeout ?.but wouldnt it then always disconnect after the same amount of time ?. ok...maybe somthing on my network is causing traffic in unregular intervals.that my explain it... but if theres an idle timeout value .it must be able to set it...dont u think so ? -- -Quaylar- Icq# 30932448 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Knowledge is power For confidental email plz encrypt with PGP
RE: [newbie] adsl and connection loss
I don't know if it is an idle timeout or not, some ISP's from what I understand are setup to timeout connections if they are idle for a period of time. That's what was going on with my connection. Since then, I changed the company I was using for my ADSL/ISP and have had no problems with timeouts. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quaylar Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 12:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] adsl and connection loss At 18:10 06.03.2001 -0600, you wrote: Mine did the same thing after some idle time, a friend told me that if I set my email to check every 10 minutes or so, it would keep the connection alive and stay connected. I tried it and it works, give it a try. so u think its an idle timeout ?.but wouldnt it then always disconnect after the same amount of time ?. ok...maybe somthing on my network is causing traffic in unregular intervals.that my explain it... but if theres an idle timeout value .it must be able to set it...dont u think so ? -- -Quaylar- Icq# 30932448 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Knowledge is power For confidental email plz encrypt with PGP
RE: [newbie] adsl and connection loss
At 05:44 08.03.2001 -0600, you wrote: I don't know if it is an idle timeout or not, some ISP's from what I understand are setup to timeout connections if they are idle for a period of time. That's what was going on with my connection. Since then, I changed the company I was using for my ADSL/ISP and have had no problems with timeouts. i know for sure that its not the isp, because they say they dont have an idle timeout.. --quay
RE: [newbie] adsl and connection loss
Mine did the same thing after some idle time, a friend told me that if I set my email to check every 10 minutes or so, it would keep the connection alive and stay connected. I tried it and it works, give it a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quaylar Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] adsl and connection loss hi all ! i am using a alcatel 1000 adsl modem on my mandrake 7.1 linux box. i build up my connection over pptp. no problems establishing connection, but after an unpredictable amount of time my connection drops. it doesnt always happen, sometimes my machine is 3 h online, sometimes its only 1h. when i look at system console there are no error messages, it just seems that the connection was shut down properly (without me causing it) it just says : pppd : LCP terminated by peer connection terminated connect time blah blah sent ...bytes, received ..bytes exit i understand that the connection was dropped by my isps server but i dont know why; i know for sure that there are no "server side" connection timeouts from my isp. is there an option somewhere for the pppd that configures an idle timeout ? and what is this LCP thingy ? thx in advance, --quay -- -Quaylar- Icq# 30932448 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Knowledge is power For confidental email plz encrypt with PGP
RE: [newbie] adsl and connection loss
At 18:10 06.03.2001 -0600, you wrote: Mine did the same thing after some idle time, a friend told me that if I set my email to check every 10 minutes or so, it would keep the connection alive and stay connected. I tried it and it works, give it a try. so u think its an idle timeout ?.but wouldnt it then always disconnect after the same amount of time ?. ok...maybe somthing on my network is causing traffic in unregular intervals.that my explain it... but if theres an idle timeout value .it must be able to set it...dont u think so ? -- -Quaylar- Icq# 30932448 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Knowledge is power For confidental email plz encrypt with PGP
Re: [newbie] ADSL Connection
Try these to sites. Should be a similar setup. http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/prog/linux/pppoe.html http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~akonstan/infospeed/ At 11:37 PM 8/16/2000 +0800, you wrote: Help! I am a new Linux Mandrake user and I have an ADSL modem connected to a Ethernet card on my machine. How do I connect to the ISP (Singtel Magix) ? In windows98, I had the RAS Session Manager to make the connection. How do I do it in Linux appreciate some good advice... Thanks!
Re: [newbie] ADSL Connection
You need to determine whether your ISP uses straight TCP/IP or pppoe )PPP-over-ethernet) as the protocol. If so, you need to obtain pppoe--try searching freshmeat.net. --Greg Help! I am a new Linux Mandrake user and Ihave an ADSL modem connected to a Ethernet card on my machine. How do I connect to the ISP (Singtel Magix) ? In windows98, I had the RAS Session Manager to make the connection. How do I do it in Linux appreciate some good advice... Thanks!
Re: [newbie] ADSL Connection
** Reply to message from "Greg Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:12:01 -0400 You need to determine whether your ISP uses straight TCP/IP or pppoe )PPP-over-ethernet) as the protocol. If so, you need to obtain pppoe--try searching freshmeat.net. --Greg Help! I am a new Linux Mandrake user and I have an ADSL modem connected to a Ethernet card on my machine. How do I connect to the ISP (Singtel Magix) ? In windows98, I had the RAS Session Manager to make the connection. How do I do it in Linux appreciate some good advice... Thanks! !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLPHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" META content="MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=GENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=#ff DIVFONT face=Arial size=2You need to determine whether your ISP uses straight TCP/IP or pppoe )PPP-over-ethernet) as the protocol. If so, you need to obtain pppoe--try searching freshmeat.net./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2--Greg/FONT/DIV BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #00 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Help! I am a new Linux Mandrake user and Inbsp;have an ADSL modem connected to a Ethernet card on my machine. How do I connect to the ISP (Singtel Magix) ?/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2In windows98, I had the RAS Session Manager to make the connection. How do I do it in Linux/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2appreciate some good advice.../FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Thanks!/FONT/DIV/BLOCKQUOTE/BODY/HTML Hello Greg, ADSL connection is quite simple actually, providing your provider is using pppoe you can install rp-pppoe software from cooker distro and simply edit the /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf file with the pertinnent information then activate pppoe by the command adsl-start dave David M. Kufta Konsult Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux 7.1 (2.2.17) / Polarbar Mailer 1.16c JDK 1.1.8 IBM build l118-2325 (JIT enabled: jitc)
Re: [newbie] ADSL and PPP DSL Modem with Bell South
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bell South ADSL is claiming that they can't provide service to Linux. It is a PPP connection with an internal modem specially made for PPP. There is also an external ethernet option that connects to the computer through Ethernet. Does anyone know of a way to make this work with Linux? The website is www.fastaccess.com or http://consumer.bellsouth.net/adsl/. Does anyone know of using the internal ADSL modem with Linux? I suppose the external is better and once the "install expert" is gone, configure it for a linux machine w/ ethernet card and external device. If anyone has played with this, please let me know the solution. I'm using GTE ADSL with an external modem and don't have any problems connecting with any service. I would go with the external connection if you have room for a nic card in your computer; that's probably the easiest way to go. If they are using PPPoE, there is Linux support for that (although I haven't used it, I do know it's available). My account is just standard, no PPP. I have a Netgear RT311 Router which accepts my dynamic ip from GTE and then assigns local numbers (192.168.x.x) to my internal network through my hub - simple as that. Hope that helps, Mike -- Mike Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] ADSL and PPP DSL Modem with Bell South
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, you wrote: Bell South ADSL is claiming that they can't provide service to Linux. It is a PPP connection with an internal modem specially made for PPP. There is also an external ethernet option that connects to the computer through Ethernet. Does anyone know of a way to make this work with Linux? The website is www.fastaccess.com or http://consumer.bellsouth.net/adsl/. Does anyone know of using the internal ADSL modem with Linux? I suppose the external is better and once the "install expert" is gone, configure it for a linux machine w/ ethernet card and external device. If anyone has played with this, please let me know the solution. This was discussed some time ago at length on either the 'cooker' or 'expert' mailing lists. Search the archives. -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] ADSL
http://sympaticousers.org/ i'm on adsl but in canada and that site helped me alot hope it can help u to Juvenal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 29, 2000 11:37 PM Subject: [newbie] ADSL Hi, I will make a Internet Connectivity over ADSL. It's a spezial in Germany called T-DSL. (uses another frequence as ADSL; the reason is are the ISDN frequencys) It needs PPP over Ethernet! I had no problems in the Suse linux distribution, but i will work with Mandrake now. I installed the pppoed.rm (from suse) but it don't work :-( Can someone help please ? thanks Holger
Re: [newbie] adsl
I am running adsl on Mandrake with a little help from a software package I picked up called Babylon 1.4 With the service I have it's threw Sympatico High Speed and we cannot plug the modem into the hub it won't work! They also use a custom connection threw " There dialer" but they will not support Linux. I finally found the Babylon dialer though and the support they give via E-mail is amazing! Same day usually within 2-3 hour response time. I think that is great response for software that is free. Just do a search under www.freshmeat.com for pppoe. As to sharing the connection, that is something I'm working on as we speak called masquerading and IP chains. Sorry I'm a newbie too! Hope that helps Mike Hello, I'm considering adsl service possibly within the next month (this 56k connection is about done!) I'm considering service through GTE (both the dsl and the isp), I'm wondering if anyone out there has experience with this combination? I know I can use it with windows, will it easily configure with Linux? If anyone has the time, could you go into some detailed setup? My current situation is two computers connected using a Netgear auto sensing 4 port hub. I would like to be able to connect the dsl modem directly to the hub (is that possible?) and let both computers (and future computers) to connect directly through the hub. I still haven't been able to configure simple NFS under Linux, although I'm able to ping - I don't know if that's relevant. Do I need to setup one box for a gateway, or can I just use the hub itself? Thanks in advance for any help, Mike =) -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com
Re: [newbie] adsl
Actually, setting up DSL for linux is much much easier than setting up that freakin' KPPP. As far as your connectivity with DSL. You can go a couple of routes. The first option (which I prefer) is to get a couple of static IP addresses from your ISP. One for each of your machines. The second option is to stick with one IP and use your linuxbox as a proxy server. Connect your DSL modem to your hub and off you go! Try out that GTE Bronze+ package. It gets the most for your $. There is a new DSL that doesn't require you to be close to a central station. Which means pretty much everyone will be able to get DSL. It even goes up to 4Mb/Sec. But this is still in the works. So get that stuff ordered and I'll get to more details if needed. Seve -Original Message- From: Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 9:10 PM Subject: [newbie] adsl Hello, I'm considering adsl service possibly within the next month (this 56k connection is about done!) I'm considering service through GTE (both the dsl and the isp), I'm wondering if anyone out there has experience with this combination? I know I can use it with windows, will it easily configure with Linux? If anyone has the time, could you go into some detailed setup? My current situation is two computers connected using a Netgear auto sensing 4 port hub. I would like to be able to connect the dsl modem directly to the hub (is that possible?) and let both computers (and future computers) to connect directly through the hub. I still haven't been able to configure simple NFS under Linux, although I'm able to ping - I don't know if that's relevant. Do I need to setup one box for a gateway, or can I just use the hub itself? Thanks in advance for any help, Mike =) -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] adsl
John, you are correct. You will need another network card in the PC to allow the other networked computer to access the net. I have the same setup with my cable modem, but I'm still using Winblows NT 4.0. Haven't had time to configure my Linux box to be my gateway to the internet. -Original Message- From: John Kintree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] adsl On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, you wrote: I'm considering adsl service possibly within the next month (this 56k connection is about done!) I'm considering service through GTE (both My dsl service is through Southwestern Bell, and I have just a single PC. They installed the Ethernet card as well as the external DSL modem, and configured it for Windows. After they left, I booted into Mandrake 7.0. At first I had difficulty getting the dsl modem to work. Then I did a fresh install of Mandrake 7.0, it recognized the new ethernet card and configured it, asked just a couple of questions about DHCP and network mask, and when I had finished the installation and re-booted, my dsl modem was working. All I had to do was click on Netscape. It was amazingly easy. And, since I have separate partitions for my /home and /usr directories, the re-installation did not mess with stuff I wanted to keep. When we get a 2nd PC, I'll try to get IP-masquerading to work so both computers can use the same dsl modem. I think the PC with the dsl modem will need another Ethernet card to connect to the hub. John
Re: [newbie] adsl
Thanks to everyone for your helpful responses! I feel a little better informed now, I'll write back in a few weeks when I get the service started. Thanks again! Mike
RE: [newbie] ADSL?
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote: While this is fine if you have a box to destroy, I mean put windows on. I'm sure they have a tech that can verify the ethernet connection with a laptop. Setting up the network card is truly trivial, no matter what OS good ones don't even require a reboot. Do you already have a home network, or ethernet card? Yes to both. :-) I have a Windows box and a Linux box hooked to my ISDN router. I've got to start paying more attention :) i didn't realise this was your question Nope. Not my questionI replied because you (or someone) appeared to ask me if I had a network already. :-) The dsl modems here in Denver aren't that much different than the cable modems, with the exception the dsl modems you can get one with upto 4 eth ports. Hardcodeing the mac address of the nic, I really doubt is going on, and if they do really do it they need smacked cause they're just causeing more work for them selves. It may be the case the've skimp'd on them, and got cheap ones without arp support *shrug* Dunno. I'm just going by what I've heard. Ok true but theres easier ways, i Know lots of isp's that block port 25, for those reasons, to all their customers ip's Hmmyeah...Oh, well...Hope the gent who was asking got the info he needed. :-) John
RE: [newbie] ADSL?
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote: [...] Hmmyeah...Oh, well...Hope the gent who was asking got the info he needed. :-) John Me too
RE: [newbie] ADSL?
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Ty C. Mixon wrote: USWest, the not-so-baby Bell only supports Windows, and won't even give hints for other OS's, but everything works fine under my Linux installation. I pay USWest for the dsl line, and Datawest (a local ISP) for the service with a static IP. I'm my own smtp (using yi.org as a redirect), ftp, and telnet server. Still need to figure out how to do POP3, but that's not as important to me, as when I move next time I may not have the dsl connection. You shouldn't need any more than the ip, gateway and dns for any OS. If they ask the OS simply repeat the question, and emphisize that you didn't ask where to input them, you only want to know what they are :) oh yeah why i answered, pop-3 is provided by the imap rpm rpm -ihv /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/imap-* -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
RE: [newbie] ADSL?
USWest, the not-so-baby Bell only supports Windows, and won't even give hints for other OS's, but everything works fine under my Linux installation. I pay USWest for the dsl line, and Datawest (a local ISP) for the service with a static IP. I'm my own smtp (using yi.org as a redirect), ftp, and telnet server. Still need to figure out how to do POP3, but that's not as important to me, as when I move next time I may not have the dsl connection. -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:26147713 Original Message On 11/20/99, 10:14:20 AM, Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding RE: [newbie] ADSL?: On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote: Locally (BellSouth) is one of those that has required a Windows box to set up your ADSL, although that may be changing. Another friend of mine has a Linux box and they're coming to install the ADSL line today for him. I think one problem in the past has been that a LOT of "kiddies" set up Linux boxes on ADSL and Cablemodems and leave 'em *wide* open for hacking and spamming. This causes problems down the road for the cable/phone co. So, as a result of this "problem" they have developed "windows-only" policies. What the INSTALLER thinks may be a different matter. ;-) John Ok true but theres easier ways, i Know lots of isp's that block port 25, for those reasons, to all their customers ip's -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
RE: [newbie] ADSL?
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote: While this is fine if you have a box to destroy, I mean put windows on. I'm sure they have a tech that can verify the ethernet connection with a laptop. Setting up the network card is truly trivial, no matter what OS good ones don't even require a reboot. Do you already have a home network, or ethernet card? Yes to both. :-) I have a Windows box and a Linux box hooked to my ISDN router. I've got to start paying more attention :) i didn't realise this was your question The problem is, I think, that they "key" the ADSL to the MAC address of your ethernet card and some "Baby Bell" companies won't install ADSL if they don't have a Windows box to use. :-) You can always set up "dual-boot" and then wipe the Windows partition afterwards. ;-) The dsl modems here in Denver aren't that much different than the cable modems, with the exception the dsl modems you can get one with upto 4 eth ports. Hardcodeing the mac address of the nic, I really doubt is going on, and if they do really do it they need smacked cause they're just causeing more work for them selves. It may be the case the've skimp'd on them, and got cheap ones without arp support Locally (BellSouth) is one of those that has required a Windows box to set up your ADSL, although that may be changing. Another friend of mine has a Linux box and they're coming to install the ADSL line today for him. I think one problem in the past has been that a LOT of "kiddies" set up Linux boxes on ADSL and Cablemodems and leave 'em *wide* open for hacking and spamming. This causes problems down the road for the cable/phone co. So, as a result of this "problem" they have developed "windows-only" policies. What the INSTALLER thinks may be a different matter. ;-) John Ok true but theres easier ways, i Know lots of isp's that block port 25, for those reasons, to all their customers ip's -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
RE: [newbie] ADSL?
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote: While this is fine if you have a box to destroy, I mean put windows on. I'm sure they have a tech that can verify the ethernet connection with a laptop. Setting up the network card is truly trivial, no matter what OS good ones don't even require a reboot. Do you already have a home network, or ethernet card? Yes to both. :-) I have a Windows box and a Linux box hooked to my ISDN router. The problem is, I think, that they "key" the ADSL to the MAC address of your ethernet card and some "Baby Bell" companies won't install ADSL if they don't have a Windows box to use. :-) You can always set up "dual-boot" and then wipe the Windows partition afterwards. ;-) Locally (BellSouth) is one of those that has required a Windows box to set up your ADSL, although that may be changing. Another friend of mine has a Linux box and they're coming to install the ADSL line today for him. I think one problem in the past has been that a LOT of "kiddies" set up Linux boxes on ADSL and Cablemodems and leave 'em *wide* open for hacking and spamming. This causes problems down the road for the cable/phone co. So, as a result of this "problem" they have developed "windows-only" policies. What the INSTALLER thinks may be a different matter. ;-) John
Re: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my...
Depends on where you go, I have seen a CD and license (green patterned thingy) of Windows NT workstation for £40 GBP at a computer fair, about the same price as my Mandrake package!! - Original Message - From: Rendus Maiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my... Scrap the Linux-Mandrake and get yourself RedHat. Once it's installed, you'll notice that, at boot, eth0 won't fail. Once that's done, open a console and type "dhcpcd -DH" and that should get your information. I actually paid for Linux-Mandrake, but I got Redhat for free from a mag. And I constabtly use Win95 and NT for everything. I also disagree that only linux is for people who want to "know" their machines. I find NT the best overall OS, even though it's more expensive. From: "Ernie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my... Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:14:47 -0400 Sorry, I don't know anything about ADSL as yet, but your last remark needed a response! It is true that Windoze is easier to set up than Linux. It is designed for people who are not interested in the computer, but only the things the computer can do. Linux on the other hand is designed by computer users, for computer users who want to know a little about what goes on on the inside. It is quite difficult to master, and is not for the faint of heart. The truth of the matter is that if you want easy, use Windoze, but if you want power, and are willing to work for it, use Linux. The rewards will be greater understanding of your computer, greater stability on the OS, and more power in your hands. For myself ( also a new Linux user ) the learning curve is well worth the effort. Ernie - Original Message - From: David E. Metzener To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:23 AM Subject: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my... I have been trying to get Linux to see the internet. I have ADSL that was working fine for Windows, and now, when I try to get Linux to see the internet, I get this error: Determining IP information for eth0...Operation failed. The 'pump' command is the one failing. I have tried all the suggestions that I can in the mini-howto for DHCP. It still doesn't work. My ISP isn't much help, they tell me that they don't support Linux yet, but here is what has worked for others: IP Address: Obtain from server automatically WINS configuration: DHCP IP Gateway or default router: Leave blank or (0.0.0.0) Host: (YOUR userID) IP Network Class: C IP Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Domain: swbell.net DNS Server: If you cannot select "Server Assigned Name Server", then select the following: Primary DNS: 151.164.1.8 Secondary DNS: 151.164.1.7 I tried that too, I wasn't using my userID as my hostname. However, that also didn't work. I am just hoping that others here that have set up their Linux with ADSL will know what needs to be done. Everything else with the setup/install of Linux went VERY smoothly! I use Linux at work now and compared to Windows, it's billions of times more stable. However, so far I am finding connecting to the internet is still much easier in Windows. Sorry guys. *PLEASE* prove me wrong! :) Dave - [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my...
Scrap the Linux-Mandrake and get yourself RedHat. Once it's installed, you'll notice that, at boot, eth0 won't fail. Once that's done, open a console and type "dhcpcd -DH" and that should get your information. I actually paid for Linux-Mandrake, but I got Redhat for free from a mag. And I constabtly use Win95 and NT for everything. I also disagree that only linux is for people who want to "know" their machines. I find NT the best overall OS, even though it's more expensive. From: "Ernie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my... Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:14:47 -0400 Sorry, I don't know anything about ADSL as yet, but your last remark needed a response! It is true that Windoze is easier to set up than Linux. It is designed for people who are not interested in the computer, but only the things the computer can do. Linux on the other hand is designed by computer users, for computer users who want to know a little about what goes on on the inside. It is quite difficult to master, and is not for the faint of heart. The truth of the matter is that if you want easy, use Windoze, but if you want power, and are willing to work for it, use Linux. The rewards will be greater understanding of your computer, greater stability on the OS, and more power in your hands. For myself ( also a new Linux user ) the learning curve is well worth the effort. Ernie - Original Message - From: David E. Metzener To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:23 AM Subject: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my... I have been trying to get Linux to see the internet. I have ADSL that was working fine for Windows, and now, when I try to get Linux to see the internet, I get this error: Determining IP information for eth0...Operation failed. The 'pump' command is the one failing. I have tried all the suggestions that I can in the mini-howto for DHCP. It still doesn't work. My ISP isn't much help, they tell me that they don't support Linux yet, but here is what has worked for others: IP Address: Obtain from server automatically WINS configuration: DHCP IP Gateway or default router: Leave blank or (0.0.0.0) Host: (YOUR userID) IP Network Class: C IP Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Domain: swbell.net DNS Server: If you cannot select "Server Assigned Name Server", then select the following: Primary DNS: 151.164.1.8 Secondary DNS: 151.164.1.7 I tried that too, I wasn't using my userID as my hostname. However, that also didn't work. I am just hoping that others here that have set up their Linux with ADSL will know what needs to be done. Everything else with the setup/install of Linux went VERY smoothly! I use Linux at work now and compared to Windows, it's billions of times more stable. However, so far I am finding connecting to the internet is still much easier in Windows. Sorry guys. *PLEASE* prove me wrong! :) Dave - [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my...
Sorry, I don't know anything about ADSL as yet, but your last remark needed a response! It is true that Windoze is easier to set up than Linux. It is designed for people who are not interested in the computer, but only the things the computer can do. Linux on the other hand is designed by computer users, for computer users who want to know a little about what goes on on the inside. It is quite difficult to master, and is not for the faint of heart. The truth of the matter is that if you want easy, use Windoze, but if you want power, and are willing to work for it, use Linux. The rewards will be greater understanding of your computer, greater stability on the OS, and more power in your hands. For myself ( also a new Linux user ) the learning curve is well worth the effort. Ernie - Original Message - From: David E. Metzener To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:23 AM Subject: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my... I have been trying to get Linux to see the internet. I have ADSL that was working fine for Windows, and now, when I try to get Linux to see the internet, I get this error:Determining IP information for eth0...Operation failed.The 'pump' command is the one failing. I have tried all the suggestions that I can in the mini-howto for DHCP. It still doesn't work. My ISP isn't much help, they tell me that they don't support Linux yet, but here is what has worked for others: IP Address: Obtain from server automatically WINS configuration: DHCP IP Gateway or default router: Leave blank or (0.0.0.0) Host: (YOUR userID) IP Network Class: C IP Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Domain: swbell.net DNS Server: If you cannot select "Server Assigned Name Server", then select the following: Primary DNS: 151.164.1.8 Secondary DNS: 151.164.1.7 I tried that too, I wasn't using my userID as my hostname. However, that also didn't work.I am just hoping that others here that have set up their Linux with ADSL will know what needs to be done. Everything else with the setup/install of Linux went VERY smoothly! I use Linux at work now and compared to Windows, it's billions of times more stable. However, so far I am finding connecting to the internet is still much easier in Windows. Sorry guys. *PLEASE* prove me wrong! :)Dave-[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my...
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, David E. Metzener wrote: Please turn off the HTML mail "feature" in your mailer... I have been trying to get Linux to see the internet.nbsp; I have ADSL that was working fine for Windows, and now, when I try to get Linux to see the internet, I get this error:br br Determining IP information for eth0...Operation failed.br Your ISP is running a stupid (NT based, that is) dhcp server. Pump has problems with those. Install dhcpcd and make the init scripts run that instead of pump, and it'll work. LLaP bero
RE: [newbie] ADSL~installation through linux
What DSL modem/router did you order? Also what mode will you be running in? PPP or Bridging. Hopefully it is an external router that you have coming. If it is a PPP USWest account, I can help you get it up and running using the Cisco external they offer, and connecting it to your hub.. Good luck and let me know if I can help. Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 1:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] ADSL~installation through linux Well I am getting dsl in a few days, but i will only be able to use in in win98 because i cant find out how to set it up in linux. yeah it will be cool and all, but i realy realy want it to run under linux. i have searched all over the net how to set it up in linux, but to to luck. can anyone help out? thanks jerrud
RE: [newbie] ADSL~installation through linux
did you try the How-To's at linux.org?? They have one there on ADSL also check http://www.linuxberg.com and see if they have some programs there you may be able to use.. James J. Capone Webmaster http://linuxuser.8m.com Webmaster http://teammajestic.8m.com Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co Author Linux For Newbies "Even Common People Can Attain Uncommon Results" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 2:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] ADSL~installation through linux Well I am getting dsl in a few days, but i will only be able to use in in win98 because i cant find out how to set it up in linux. yeah it will be cool and all, but i realy realy want it to run under linux. i have searched all over the net how to set it up in linux, but to to luck. can anyone help out? thanks jerrud
RE: [newbie] ADSL?
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote: Hopefully by then I will be connected. Since no one else has responded yet, seems I may be at the frontier's edge on this. I am expecting installation a week from monday. This is all new to my ISP as well. I am their "test case", primarily because I have been bugging them to get it up for months. I may be wrong, but I think the major primary players in my area (the phone companies themselves- Bell South and Sprint) won't hook up ADSL to a linux box, in some areas they are not even authorizing mac boxes yet. I will certainly keep folks posted on experiences. Meanwhile if anyone has done this yet I would love to hear from you. Thanks. Eric...just set up a Windows box for 'em...then, make a note of the DNS servers and the name they gave your machine and plug that info into your Linux box along with the network card that they used in the setup. :-) My friend here did that. He's got DSL from Bellsouth and they plugged into a Windows box:-) John While this is fine if you have a box to destroy, I mean put windows on. I'm sure they have a tech that can verify the ethernet connection with a laptop. Setting up the network card is truly trivial, no matter what OS good ones don't even require a reboot. Do you already have a home network, or ethernet card? -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
RE: [newbie] ADSL?
Unfortunatly us backward european don't have ADSL yet. :( When it is release in the UK next year, I will post something up on connecting with it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Mings Sent: 18 November 1999 04:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] ADSL? No one yet contacted me so I thought I might try again. Anyone out there using a linux box connected to an ISP through ADSL? If so please contact me off list if you are willing to share your experiences of getting it running. Thanks. Regards, Eric Mings Ph.D.
RE: [newbie] ADSL?
Eric I at one time had my Linux box connected to the internet through ADSL. The actual setup was actually trouble free. The most important step I think was changing the settings on the 3Com card to 10Mbps, Half Duplex. (It defaulted to Auto). Other than that name your machine as it's registered with the ISP, give it the domain name of the ISP. Ensure the interface is set as a DHCP client and that should be it. You may need to enter the DNS servers as well. /sbin/ifconfig will tell if your interface has connected and received it's IP address. Dean Ramsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Mings Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 11:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] ADSL? No one yet contacted me so I thought I might try again. Anyone out there using a linux box connected to an ISP through ADSL? If so please contact me off list if you are willing to share your experiences of getting it running. Thanks. Regards, Eric Mings Ph.D.
