Re: [newbie] Lilo on floppy
Leroy Britton wrote: I am using mandrake 10.1 and need to prepare a floppy for lilo. I found instructions and they say to use fdformat /dev/fd0H1440, however this gives me a error of No such file or directory. I have also tried fdformat /dev/fd0 and that gives me No such device or address. Any help would be appreciated. With 10.1, udev does not seam to create the additional floppy devices for the different floppy formats. But you should be able to use /dev/fd0 in place of /dev/fd0H1440 and have it work. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo on floppy
On Thursday 07 April 2005 06:33 pm, Leroy Britton wrote: I have also tried fdformat /dev/fd0 and that gives me No such device or address. ___ ~ maybe, stick in a floppy then, as root, command :- mkfs.minix /dev/fd0 or mkfs.ext2 /dev/fd0 best rgds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 31 Jan 2005 20:14, mike wrote: I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. If I understand you correctly you are wanting to keep your old lilo.conf, so that you can copy/use settings after you have installed 10.1. Correct? Why not open lilo.conf and save to lilo.conf.old? That way the install will find lilo.conf as it expects, but you will still have an intact copy. I use this whenever I know I'm going to do something that will overwrite an important config file. It's also good to save originals, such as the smb.conf which gives so much helpful info. I save it as smb.conf.orig before I start editing. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/pQ0kFAvMr/nNX8RAoDGAJ9XkN9HyKRYOvlqcJwRY+R+Q4YzTwCfbNN9 3zWgjFSC3UsCmy3sTjlxswI= =DqTk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 31 Jan 2005 20:14, mike wrote: I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. If I understand you correctly you are wanting to keep your old lilo.conf, so that you can copy/use settings after you have installed 10.1. Correct? Why not open lilo.conf and save to lilo.conf.old? That way the install will find lilo.conf as it expects, but you will still have an intact copy. I use this whenever I know I'm going to do something that will overwrite an important config file. It's also good to save originals, such as the smb.conf which gives so much helpful info. I save it as smb.conf.orig before I start editing. Anne Anne, yes thats kinda what I'm talking about. 10.1 is already installed I'm just updating the kernel on it. Basiclly I want to have it simple to update kernels on both 10.0 and 10.1 (like it was before,as mentioned above). Right now what it looks like I'll have to do is update the kernel on the 10.1 side (after I restored the lilo.conf of course) then create an entry for my 10.0 side so I can boot to that after running lilo on the 10.1. I guess I can create /mnt/ entry on both sides then alternate lilo's each time I update kernels on either side. :-) Starting to get confusing. Anyways seemed simpler when the kernel would install without complaining about not finding the bootloader. At least in my circumstance. I know this is Way out in left field but since I'm not dependent on 10.1 yet I wonder if I should try to force the kernel install and see if it works. something to consider...maybe. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. Mikkel, this sounds like what I'm looking for. But I am struggling with it so far. I changed boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1 on my 10.1 lilo.conf and ran lilo but I recieve and error at the end something like Fatal, unable to find default image. Do I need to install lilo into /dev/hda1 ? For the 10.1 side that is. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Your first option sounds like the one I want go with. If possible. Thanks, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. Mikkel, this sounds like what I'm looking for. But I am struggling with it so far. I changed boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1 on my 10.1 lilo.conf and ran lilo but I recieve and error at the end something like Fatal, unable to find default image. Do I need to install lilo into /dev/hda1 ? For the 10.1 side that is. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Your first option sounds like the one I want go with. If possible. Thanks, Mike If you post your lilo.conf for 10.1, I can tell you what is wrong. From the error message, I suspect that the lable from your default=lable statment does not match any lable=label statment. So lilo dosent know what to do if it times out, or if you just hit Enter. If you run lilo -v, it will give you more information about what it is doing. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. Mikkel, this sounds like what I'm looking for. But I am struggling with it so far. I changed boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1 on my 10.1 lilo.conf and ran lilo but I recieve and error at the end something like Fatal, unable to find default image. Do I need to install lilo into /dev/hda1 ? For the 10.1 side that is. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Your first option sounds like the one I want go with. If possible. Thanks, Mike If you post your lilo.conf for 10.1, I can tell you what is wrong. From the error message, I suspect that the lable from your default=lable statment does not match any lable=label statment. So lilo dosent know what to do if it times out, or if you just hit Enter. If you run lilo -v, it will give you more information about what it is doing. Mikkel You were right on the mark Mikkel, I did change the label. Here's my lilo.conf. I'll correct the label and give it another try. default=linux boot=/dev/hda1 map=/boot/map keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent vga=788 read-only I'll correct the label and give it another try. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel... Success!
mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. Mikkel, this sounds like what I'm looking for. But I am struggling with it so far. I changed boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1 on my 10.1 lilo.conf and ran lilo but I recieve and error at the end something like Fatal, unable to find default image. Do I need to install lilo into /dev/hda1 ? For the 10.1 side that is. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Your first option sounds like the one I want go with. If possible. Thanks, Mike If you post your lilo.conf for 10.1, I can tell you what is wrong. From the error message, I suspect that the lable from your default=lable statment does not match any lable=label statment. So lilo dosent know what to do if it times out, or if you just hit Enter. If you run lilo -v, it will give you more information about what it is doing. Mikkel You were right on the mark Mikkel, I did change the label. Here's my lilo.conf. I'll correct the label and give it another try. default=linux boot=/dev/hda1 map=/boot/map keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent vga=788 read-only I'll correct the label and give it another try. Mike Worked out great! Was able to update kernel easily with no errors just what I was looking for. Thanks again, Mikkel Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
Teilhard Knight wrote: Can you think any reason why Mandrake 10.0 Community, and also the Official,report that there is a sector of 80 Gb, and another sector of 891 !! Gb overlapping? I had a similar experience recently and had to do a Low level format to rid a corupt partition table , my problem was due to using the drive size limiter jumper on the HD itself, but I suspect disckdrake can cause similar problems when used on a HD originally partitioned with windows apps like PM8, or dos fdisk.This is controversial in linux, but I know that some other linux users I know have experienced something similar to that which you describe. That is why this is off list. I have kept tothe use of windblows apps to partition my dual boot /linux/windblows HD's for quite some time and not had this trouble myself, but as I say I have had to help sort our other folks problems of a similar nature. When I installed the Official for a second time, I got a worse thing saying that the partition table was too messy for Mandrake. I trusted the offer to fix the problem and I went to the dogs with 4 OSs installed in my 120 Gb disk. It even disappeared from the BIOS. I do not want to tire you with what I did to fix this. I have checked now possible problems in the partition table with different tools, and there are none. Trouble is they don't always show the corrupt nature of the partition table. It all may look OK but there are sectors in the MBR that can store bad data, yet not be read by these apps.I certainly don't have enough professional knowledge to say what that currupt data may be but the consequencies can be awful. I am now trying to install and at the end LILO fails to install everywhere, so I cannot boot. What on earth is going on? Teilhard Recently , that is to say MD10 has come with a version of lilo that cannot work with any other bios setting other than LBA, and refuses to boot any other OS other than the installed MD10, but changing the setting to LBA in bios rectifies that, and so I doubt it is likely to be your problem. This is only a pure guess but it sounds like a corrupt partition table in the MBR and somehow you have to re-establish a new partition table from the beginning. That means a full Low Level Format (LLF) Have you ever done a LLf before. There are HD manufacturer utilities to help you do that. my maxtor has one called powermax which is very intuitive. One last thought , just an outside possibility, so I need to ask, you don't have an external card reader or camera or some other mass storage device plugged in ? I have know these give faulse partition table readings sometimes, and the solution is to remove them until after you are done, just a thought. I don't know if this is of any help to you, since without actually experiencing it myself it is hard to be certain what the nature of your problem is but maybe it gives you some ideas. Corrupt partition tables can be a trial sometimes, and if you return to a normal partition table setup I would stick to a windblows app to do the partitioning. It doesn't matter what app does the formatting, but when the MD10 install disc looks to find partitions it is better it finds what you wants already made by another device. Before Mandrake had diskdrake they used to offer PM as their choice of windblows app. regards, John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
At 11:22 PM 6/19/2004 -0400, you wrote: On Saturday 19 June 2004 05:42 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote: Can you think any reason why Mandrake 10.0 Community, and also the Official, report that there is a sector of 80 Gb, and another sector of 891 !! Gb overlapping? When I installed the Official for a second time, I got a worse thing saying that the partition table was too messy for Mandrake. I trusted the offer to fix the problem and I went to the dogs with 4 OSs installed in my 120 Gb disk. It even disappeared from the BIOS. I do not want to tire you with what I did to fix this. Sounds to me like you have run into a bug that Mandrake, as well as Fedora and a few others also experience. I think it is a bug in LILO. It has to do with the LBA settings in the BIOS. The bug mostly manifests itself in not being able to boot into windows after installing into a dual-boot scenario. There has been a lot of talk on the net about this, so google should help you out here. Also, you may want to try turning off LBA in the BIOS. Here's a link to the article about it on Slashdot http://slashdot.org/articles/04/05/23/1448209.shtml?tid=110tid=187 -- I have been on the verge of installing 10.0 powerpack then I heard about this problem. I spent a good part of yesterday googling and reading various forums. From what I found this problem seems to be related to the 2.6 kernel and the way it handles CHS info from the bios and messes with partition tables that causes them to be unreadable by a MS FAT or NTFS system. This problem is found in Fedora, SuSE and Mandrake versions that use a 2.6 kernel. A lot of people when first hearing of this problem automatically think it is a MBR problem, but it goes deeper than that and none of the variations of fdisk /mbr will help. From what I have read it seems that will most likely occur if any partition changes are made and the partition tables are re-written and if your drive detection in bios is set to auto. It has been stated that sometimes changing the bios setting to LBA will correct the problems as long as the tables and MBR haven't been further messed up with repair attempt with all the various utilities. I have also heard, but not verified, that kernel version 2.6.7 fixes that bug but that is a much later version than the one in the current iso's and boxed versions. So far the best course seems to change bios setting to LBA, and do not make any changes to partition tables until you can upgrade your kernel version. The sad part is that none of the distro developers seem to be taking this bug seriously. You will find no mention of it at any of the home pages. I guess since none of the developer types dual boot they don't think it is a major bug. In fact a reply from one jerk said just put your Windows an a separate box, like everyone can have a house full spare computers. . Richard *** Richard Hackwith Sacramento CA[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
Teilhard Knight wrote: Can you think any reason why Mandrake 10.0 Community, and also the Official, report that there is a sector of 80 Gb, and another sector of 891 !! Gb overlapping? When I installed the Official for a second time, I got a worse thing saying that the partition table was too messy for Mandrake. I trusted the offer to fix the problem and I went to the dogs with 4 OSs installed in my 120 Gb disk. It even disappeared from the BIOS. I do not want to tire you with what I did to fix this. I have checked now possible problems in the partition table with different tools, and there are none. I am now trying to install and at the end LILO fails to install everywhere, so I cannot boot. What on earth is going on? Teilhard Did you have to install anything like disk manager in order to use the entire drive? These programs normally load a BIOS extension in the master boot record. Depending on where you tell LILO to install itself, it can overwrite this, and make a mess of things. You can also run into problems if the drive was original set up in one mode, and you changed it to another one. Switching between LBA, Large, and Normal can do some interesting things. Normally the system just doesn't boot, but some OSs remember what the disk was set up for when they were installed, and ignore the change... There are probably other causes, but this is all that comes to mind right now... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
Teilhard Knight wrote: Can you think any reason why Mandrake 10.0 Community, and also the Official, report that there is a sector of 80 Gb, and another sector of 891 !! Gb overlapping? When I installed the Official for a second time, I got a worse thing saying that the partition table was too messy for Mandrake. I trusted the offer to fix the problem and I went to the dogs with 4 OSs installed in my 120 Gb disk. It even disappeared from the BIOS. I do not want to tire you with what I did to fix this. I have checked now possible problems in the partition table with different tools, and there are none. I am now trying to install and at the end LILO fails to install everywhere, so I cannot boot. What on earth is going on? Teilhard Did you have to install anything like disk manager in order to use the entire drive? These programs normally load a BIOS extension in the master boot record. Depending on where you tell LILO to install itself, it can overwrite this, and make a mess of things. No, I don't have any disk managers installed. Actually, the disk is 160 Gb and not 120Gb (in another machine), but I have a modern motherboard (ASUS A7V333) which does recognize the full length of the drive. But as I pointed out in my post, I have been double checking in many ways the partition table and it is free of problems. You can also run into problems if the drive was original set up in one mode, and you changed it to another one. Switching between LBA, Large, and Normal can do some interesting things. Normally the system just doesn't boot, but some OSs remember what the disk was set up for when they were installed, and ignore the change... There are probably other causes, but this is all that comes to mind right now... Mikkel Well, the problem is not precisely that the system doesn't boot after installing. The problem is that LILO doesn't get installed at the end. What the heck, I have seen weirder things. Thanks for your feedback. Teilhard. - This mail sent through CWMail: http://www.crosswinds.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
So does this mean that you can boot by some means? If so, then as 'su' issue # /sbin/lilo and take not of any errors. Let us know. PS. Did you try testdisk . Regards Frank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Teilhard Knight wrote: Teilhard Knight wrote: Can you think any reason why Mandrake 10.0 Community, and also the Official, report that there is a sector of 80 Gb, and another sector of 891 !! Gb overlapping? When I installed the Official for a second time, I got a worse thing saying that the partition table was too messy for Mandrake. I trusted the offer to fix the problem and I went to the dogs with 4 OSs installed in my 120 Gb disk. It even disappeared from the BIOS. I do not want to tire you with what I did to fix this. I have checked now possible problems in the partition table with different tools, and there are none. I am now trying to install and at the end LILO fails to install everywhere, so I cannot boot. What on earth is going on? Teilhard Did you have to install anything like disk manager in order to use the entire drive? These programs normally load a BIOS extension in the master boot record. Depending on where you tell LILO to install itself, it can overwrite this, and make a mess of things. No, I don't have any disk managers installed. Actually, the disk is 160 Gb and not 120Gb (in another machine), but I have a modern motherboard (ASUS A7V333) which does recognize the full length of the drive. But as I pointed out in my post, I have been double checking in many ways the partition table and it is free of problems. You can also run into problems if the drive was original set up in one mode, and you changed it to another one. Switching between LBA, Large, and Normal can do some interesting things. Normally the system just doesn't boot, but some OSs remember what the disk was set up for when they were installed, and ignore the change... There are probably other causes, but this is all that comes to mind right now... Mikkel Well, the problem is not precisely that the system doesn't boot after installing. The problem is that LILO doesn't get installed at the end. What the heck, I have seen weirder things. Thanks for your feedback. Teilhard. - This mail sent through CWMail: http://www.crosswinds.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
On Saturday 19 June 2004 05:42 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote: Can you think any reason why Mandrake 10.0 Community, and also the Official, report that there is a sector of 80 Gb, and another sector of 891 !! Gb overlapping? When I installed the Official for a second time, I got a worse thing saying that the partition table was too messy for Mandrake. I trusted the offer to fix the problem and I went to the dogs with 4 OSs installed in my 120 Gb disk. It even disappeared from the BIOS. I do not want to tire you with what I did to fix this. I have checked now possible problems in the partition table with different tools, and there are none. I am now trying to install and at the end LILO fails to install everywhere, so I cannot boot. What on earth is going on? Sounds to me like you have run into a bug that Mandrake, as well as Fedora and a few others also experience. I think it is a bug in LILO. It has to do with the LBA settings in the BIOS. The bug mostly manifests itself in not being able to boot into windows after installing into a dual-boot scenario. There has been a lot of talk on the net about this, so google should help you out here. Also, you may want to try turning off LBA in the BIOS. Here's a link to the article about it on Slashdot http://slashdot.org/articles/04/05/23/1448209.shtml?tid=110tid=187 -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Lilo and XP
Steve, You should have boot options in mmc, but you just need to run drakboot if you can't find it from the command line as root and you can configure it from there. Tony. -Original Message- From: Stephen Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:01 PM To: Tony S. Sykes Subject: Re: [newbie] Lilo and XP Tony S. Sykes wrote: You can do it through mcc. Change the NT to be the default. Tony. That´s what I thought, but there is no interface in MMC to do this. SR -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the postmaster immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and XP
Tony S. Sykes wrote: Steve, You should have boot options in mmc, but you just need to run drakboot if you can't find it from the command line as root and you can configure it from there. Tony. That´s what I thought, but when I run drakboot, even as root, there are no option to edit the way lilo boots. See the screen shots of drakboot on my machine: http://www.sreynolds.org/docs/images/snapshot1.png http://www.sreynolds.org/docs/images/snapshot2.png That´s why I resorted to editing lilo direct from lilo.conf. SR Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and XP
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:53:26 - Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: You can do it through mcc. Change the NT to be the default. Tony. That´s what I thought, but there is no interface in MMC to do this. I checked before I posted, and ya, I was surprised to find no option for this. Weird. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 10:26:52 up 21 days, 22:11, 8 users, load average: 0.05, 0.05, 0.06 +++ Not only do I think marijuana should be legalized, I think it should be mandatory-- Bill Hicks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Lilo and XP
On the second screen shot if you click okay it then takes you into another menu where you can change the way lilo boots. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Reynolds Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Lilo and XP Tony S. Sykes wrote: Steve, You should have boot options in mmc, but you just need to run drakboot if you can't find it from the command line as root and you can configure it from there. Tony. That´s what I thought, but when I run drakboot, even as root, there are no option to edit the way lilo boots. See the screen shots of drakboot on my machine: http://www.sreynolds.org/docs/images/snapshot1.png http://www.sreynolds.org/docs/images/snapshot2.png That´s why I resorted to editing lilo direct from lilo.conf. SR -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the postmaster immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo questions
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 10 January 2004 17:38, mike wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 10 January 2004 16:30, mike wrote: I don't know whether it will be able to set it up correctly with the boot partitions on separate drives, so you may well have to hand edit. Anne That was the problem lilo would not see the other /boot partitions, it only sees the /boot of the OS it was installed. I tried to find a way to get around it but, no luck. Had to mount my hdb drive in /mnt and add an entry in the /etc/fstab, and mount -a . Then edited my lilo.conf like below. image=/mnt/mdk9.1//boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.27mdk label=9.1mdk2421-27 root=/dev/hdb1 read-only optional vga=791 append= devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht splash=silent initrd=/mnt/mdk9.1//boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.27mdk.img Well all works now. I just won't make the mistake of running lilo on hdb again ;-) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo questions
On Saturday 10 January 2004 16:30, mike wrote: Hello, I kinda borked up my workstation when I did the kernel updates. I have 2 hard drives both on the master ide channel hda and hdb hda has dual boot windows and mdk9.2 and hdb has just mdk9.1 on it. Also hdb used to be hda when its install was done thus it believes it was hda. I added a new hard drive and installed windows and mdk9.2 edited the lilo.conf on mdk9.2 to mount hdb1 (mdk9.1) on /dev/hdb1 in a /mnt/tmp directory like so. image=/mnt/tmp/boot/vmlinuz label=9.1_linux root=/dev/hdb1 initrd=/mnt/tmp/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht vga=791 read-only So anyways cruiseing along at very careless warp speed updated both kernels and over wrote hda's lilo.conf with hdb's lilo.conf so was wondering can I just rewrite my lilo.conf with all the entries from both hda and hdb and run lilo and put and identical copy on both hda and hdb so I can boot hda again and not confuse the issue again? Or do I need to remove lilo from hdb? Mike Mike, early in your lilo.conf there will be a line something like boot=/dev/hde That is usually the hddrive on which you have your windows install, just because windows usually needs to be on the first hdd. Anyway, the drive mentioned in that line is where it's looking to start up. If you have done a default install of 9.1 and 9.2 you will have separate /boot partitions. It can only read one, and you need to know which one it is reading, or to prepare both for reading. The way you do that is to rename config, initrd, kernel and vmlinuz with the kernel version e.g. config would become config-2.4.21-0.13mdk (I think that's the stock 9.1 kernel). Then make sure that both /boot partitions contain copies of each. At present you are telling it to load vmlinuz, for 9.1. The trouble is that vmlinuz may well be pointing to the 9.2 version. Once you have copies of each in your /boot you can change these entries to version specific ones, and all should be well. If I were you I would try booting from CD1, hitting F1 where you get a chance to restore your lilo - you don't need one on each drive. That should at least get you in again, then you can look at what changes if any need making to make both versions available. I don't know whether it will be able to set it up correctly with the boot partitions on separate drives, so you may well have to hand edit. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo questions
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 10 January 2004 16:30, mike wrote: Hello, I kinda borked up my workstation when I did the kernel updates. I have 2 hard drives both on the master ide channel hda and hdb hda has dual boot windows and mdk9.2 and hdb has just mdk9.1 on it. Also hdb used to be hda when its install was done thus it believes it was hda. I added a new hard drive and installed windows and mdk9.2 edited the lilo.conf on mdk9.2 to mount hdb1 (mdk9.1) on /dev/hdb1 in a /mnt/tmp directory like so. image=/mnt/tmp/boot/vmlinuz label=9.1_linux root=/dev/hdb1 initrd=/mnt/tmp/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht vga=791 read-only So anyways cruiseing along at very careless warp speed updated both kernels and over wrote hda's lilo.conf with hdb's lilo.conf so was wondering can I just rewrite my lilo.conf with all the entries from both hda and hdb and run lilo and put and identical copy on both hda and hdb so I can boot hda again and not confuse the issue again? Or do I need to remove lilo from hdb? Mike Mike, early in your lilo.conf there will be a line something like boot=/dev/hde That is usually the hddrive on which you have your windows install, just because windows usually needs to be on the first hdd. Anyway, the drive mentioned in that line is where it's looking to start up. If you have done a default install of 9.1 and 9.2 you will have separate /boot partitions. It can only read one, and you need to know which one it is reading, or to prepare both for reading. The way you do that is to rename config, initrd, kernel and vmlinuz with the kernel version e.g. config would become config-2.4.21-0.13mdk (I think that's the stock 9.1 kernel). Then make sure that both /boot partitions contain copies of each. At present you are telling it to load vmlinuz, for 9.1. The trouble is that vmlinuz may well be pointing to the 9.2 version. Once you have copies of each in your /boot you can change these entries to version specific ones, and all should be well. If I were you I would try booting from CD1, hitting F1 where you get a chance to restore your lilo - you don't need one on each drive. That should at least get you in again, then you can look at what changes if any need making to make both versions available. I don't know whether it will be able to set it up correctly with the boot partitions on separate drives, so you may well have to hand edit. Anne Thanks Anne, that answers some of my questions. So I could boot from install cd restore my hda lilo.config, then boot to hda and then hand edit all the entries I want ie both hda and hdb and all the kernels old and new with devices like root=/dev/hda root=/dev/hdb and associated partitions, images,initrd,etc. and run lilo and of course check make sure all is working. Then possible boot to hdb (9.1) and remove lilo from 9.1? Or due you just leave that lilo.config alone? What due you and the others due with 2 linux OS's on the same box as a general rule? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo questions
On Saturday 10 January 2004 17:38, mike wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 10 January 2004 16:30, mike wrote: If I were you I would try booting from CD1, hitting F1 where you get a chance to restore your lilo - you don't need one on each drive. That should at least get you in again, then you can look at what changes if any need making to make both versions available. I don't know whether it will be able to set it up correctly with the boot partitions on separate drives, so you may well have to hand edit. Anne Thanks Anne, that answers some of my questions. So I could boot from install cd restore my hda lilo.config, then boot to hda and then hand edit all the entries I want ie both hda and hdb and all the kernels old and new with devices like root=/dev/hda root=/dev/hdb and associated partitions, images,initrd,etc. and run lilo and of course check make sure all is working. Yes - I forgot to mention that you must run sbin/lilo whenever you have made changed. See below about configuration Then possible boot to hdb (9.1) and remove lilo from 9.1? Or due you just leave that lilo.config alone? Just leave it alone, it will do no harm. To help you see how my multiboot is set up here is a section of my lilo.conf. It should help you see what I mean: boot=/dev/hde map=/boot/map keytable=/boot/uk.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw disk=/dev/hde bios=0x80 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk label=Mandrake91_13 root=/dev/hdf1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img append=devfs=mount hda=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk label=Mandrake9.1MM root=/dev/hdf1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk.img append=devfs=mount hda=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.26mdk label=Mandrake91_26 root=/dev/hdf1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.26mdk.img append=devfs=mount hda=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hdf1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=nomount hda=ide-scsi acpi=off failsafe read-only other=/dev/hde1 label=windows table=/dev/hde Don't worry about the fact that mine is talking about hde and hdf - that's a peculiarity of the way this motherboard handles the drives. Yours will simply be hda and hdb. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:14 pm, many eyes noted that BODEX wrote: Hi, My lilo was recordered to MBR. Then I installed windows on the different partition. There is no starting linux menu now. How can I get an access to my linux? Use your boot floppy and get into Mandrake Linux, then bring up a terminal as root and type #lilo That will put it back in. Or CD1 install and then reload bootloader. Charlie -- I must create a system or be enslaved by another man's. I will not reason and compare; My business is to create. - William Blake This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo start entries
On Saturday 06 December 2003 12:01 pm, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Adolfo Bello wrote: I would asume that failsafe is very similar to the Windows Safe Mode but the linux-nonfb meaning escapes me. No framebuffer. Where can i find a discription of this and why I might need to select it as a boot option? Google is your friend, this ought'a do tho, http://www.sunhelp.org/faq/FrameBuffer.html#00 The reason for the no-FB choice is that not all video cards support framebuffer. If you can see the splash screen when you first boot then your card does framebuffers. All nonfb does is the vga=xxx line is removed from this boot option. vga=xxx is what sets the FB resolution. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo start entries
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 06:42, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Hi, Just wanting to improve my linux knowledge and so When I boot I use LiLo to display as I also have a Win95 OS HDD in one of the IDE chains. Lilo presents me with the following listing: Linux Linux-nonfb failsafe dos floppy I know that selecting the linux entry will boot my normal linux, the dos entry will boot up the Win95 OS HDD and the floppy entry will alllow me to boot off floppy. What about failsafe and linux-nonfb? I would asume that failsafe is very similar to the Windows Safe Mode but the linux-nonfb meaning escapes me. No framebuffer. Any ideas and of course what files to edit using a root Kwrite editor? I know I can edit the entries in the MCC but I would prefer to do it via the CLI. /etc/lilo.conf After you edit the file, run lilo. TIA -- Adolfo A. Bello B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make your posts more effective. Learn how at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo appends under MD 9.2
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 12:10 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: In my /etc/lilo.conf all boot options were written with append messages acpi=off. with the lilo version under Mandrake 9.2 this was changed during install to ...acpi=ht. Neither in the documentation, nor when googling do I find any explanation for this. I only found a couple of messages in the Cooker archive stating that it must be `acpi=ht`, but I am curious what is the meaning; what is the difference with `acpi=off` ? Also, I find that install wrote a new message `resume=/mnt/hde16`, which wasn`t there before. My swap partition is on /mnt/hde16. But again, I would like to know what this `resume` message means and what it does. If anybody knows, I`d appreciate hearing it. acpi=ht will use ACPI for enumerating processors, and then ACPI will exit. ACPI will not be used to configure interrupts and the interpreter will not run so you'll get no run-time events. If this system doesn't have HT and has MPS, then ACPI with acpi=ht does nothing for you that you don't have already. pci=noacpi is the same as above except the interpreter _will_ run in support of run-time events. Ie. Acpi=ht will give you ACPI: Interpreter disabled and pci=noacpi will not. http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0310.0/0521.html Which was returned by Google when I noticed the change an also was curious. It is used by the Mandrake installer if it even suspects your hardware will not fully support ACPI as currently implemented in Linux kernels. IOW's, for Mandrake, one less user support issue (headache). I'm not sure what the 'resume' deal is about. Maybe someone can enlighten both of us ;) In Mandrake 10.0 (current cooker) it's not used. I don't remember from a recent 9.2 install, but IIRC, resume wasn't used there either, and Goggle didn't help. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo appends under MD 9.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:09:47 -0600, Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [newbie] Lilo appends under MD 9.2: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0310.0/0521.html Which was returned by Google when I noticed the change an also was curious. It is used by the Mandrake installer if it even suspects your hardware will not fully support ACPI as currently implemented in Linux kernels. IOW's, for Mandrake, one less user support issue (headache). Thanks Tom! Apparently your Google is better than mine :-) (Or should I say: you are a better googler :-) ? Cheers, =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/p/3kwC/zk+cxEdMRAp+aAJ9RYKr1TEnm+9iGQdmtCsClFZOzXgCdFLmO dYetSBxsVFP6H8IxeVX8XNQ= =F57l -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo error
On Friday 17 Oct 2003 1:59 am, C Tresenriter wrote: This morning I downloaded and ran memtest86 - it was added as a boot choice when lilo started. When I came home tonight I was unable to boot into 9.1 I got the L 99 error. Lilo was installed in the mbr and lilo.conf showed /dev/hdd1. I understand it should be /dev/hdd so I edited it and ran /sbin/lilo but I'm still getting the error. What should be /dev/hdd ? Do you mean the boot device? Be precise we are not psychic A thread I was found ended with no resolution past this last advice. Another user added a Debian install that solved the problem, but no one offered any other ideas. Many threads referred to either dual booting with XP and using that disk to fix things, or NT and it's bootloader. Other threads on the topic I found weren't in english I tried 'rescue mode' and reinstalled the bootloader after running fdisk/mbr from the Win partition but no luck I thought I'd try the install routine using update - it installed lilo but didn't give me a choice to put in in mbr and still I got the error. Is there something I can do besides formatting /and reinstalling? Almost certainly yes, but you have not given enough information. Can you boot into any of the other Lilo entries? What about Failsafe? What does your lilo.conf look like? Can you mount all your partitions in rescue mode? Where do the symlinks in /boot point to? derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:14:26 -0400 dlwiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: How do I make win2k default boot? (lilo) Either edit /etc/lilo.conf manually, or in Mandrake Control Center IIRC, there is an option to do this in /etc/lilo.conf, just switch the default=linux bit...pretty simple. then, as I am reminded time and again, run lilo to set the change. Coworker will mutiny if I give him an extra step to deal with. You know what to do with mutineers, don't you? Replace coworker is not an option. ROTFLMAO! Too bad. Is this co-worker a significant other type? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ The Poems, all three hundred of them, may be summed up in one of their phrases: Let our thoughts be correct. -- Confucius Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo
How do I make win2k default boot? (lilo) as root: edit /etc/lilo.conf and change the default line, then run lilo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo config Lilo boot
Hi All, I am really, really, really sorry about the multiple posts. I didn't think any of them got through. My email address was changed some time ago and I just never re-subscribed (I wasn't doing much on the computer at all). My windows drive crashed recently so I was setting it up for a linux only box. I went round and round on this problem but decided to ask for help. I then re-subscribed to the list with my new address (3 times actually) but each time it returned my emails with the message that there was no such subscriber (even though I received 3 welcome messages). So I would redo it. Within 3 hours I subscribed 3 times and sent 3 separate emails. Apparently all of them went through yet I was told that all bounced. Again, I apologize. BTW thanks for the help, this fixed my problem Russ On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 20:29, Jason Greenwood wrote: Here we go again, since you seem to have missed it: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LiLo Boot
Yes, there are 2 ways to do this. Go into the Mandrake Control Center and change boot options. BootDrakBootLilo/Grub Mode (Configure)Then ok at the first dialog, then you can delete entries and set a new default. OR Go into /etc/lilo.conf in a text editor as root and then edit the file by hand. Once you have done this, run lilo at the command line as root. Just type lilo and it will make your edited file live for the next reboot. Hope this helps. Cheers Jason Russ wrote: Hi All, I had a dual boot system and I allowed Lilo to boot to Windows by default (for my daughter). I now have only Linux on here but I can't figure out how to remove the Windows from the boot menu and make it boot to Linux by default. Any help would be appreciated Thanks Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LiLo Boot
On 24 Aug 2003 14:22:01 -0700 Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I had a dual boot system and I allowed Lilo to boot to Windows by default (for my daughter). I now have only Linux on here but I can't figure out how to remove the Windows from the boot menu and make it boot to Linux by default. Any help would be appreciated Edit /etc/lilo.conf You will see a line: default=really bad OS that will eventually kill you make it: default=linux then you will be safe. To remove Windows entries from the menu totally, I believe (it's been awhile since I dual booted), you can do that in MCC under Boot. In fact, you may be able to do both under MCC, but I wanted to make a joke, so... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Well, you know, no matter where you go, there you are. -- Buckaroo Banzai Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LiLo Boot
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 19:57, HaywireMac wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:45:41 +1200 Jason Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Yes, there are 2 ways to do this. Go into the Mandrake Control Center and change boot options. BootDrakBootLilo/Grub Mode (Configure)Then ok at the first dialog, then you can delete entries and set a new default. OR Go into /etc/lilo.conf in a text editor as root and then edit the file by hand. Once you have done this, run lilo at the command line as root. Just type lilo and it will make your edited file live for the next reboot. Hope this helps. Cheers Jason Top poster! Top poster! Get zee gun, schnell, schnell! Oh yes. I forgot. Run lilo as root. Wouldn't that happen automagically when the machine rebooted anyway, tho? no /sbin/lilo is different than reading the MBR as LILO does when booting. ?sbin/lilo commits the changes to the mbr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LiLo Boot
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:45:41 +1200 Jason Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Yes, there are 2 ways to do this. Go into the Mandrake Control Center and change boot options. BootDrakBootLilo/Grub Mode (Configure)Then ok at the first dialog, then you can delete entries and set a new default. OR Go into /etc/lilo.conf in a text editor as root and then edit the file by hand. Once you have done this, run lilo at the command line as root. Just type lilo and it will make your edited file live for the next reboot. Hope this helps. Cheers Jason Top poster! Top poster! Get zee gun, schnell, schnell! Oh yes. I forgot. Run lilo as root. Wouldn't that happen automagically when the machine rebooted anyway, tho? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Life sucks, but death doesn't put out at all. -- Thomas J. Kopp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LiLo Boot
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 20:09, ed tharp wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 19:57, HaywireMac wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:45:41 +1200 Jason Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Yes, there are 2 ways to do this. Go into the Mandrake Control Center and change boot options. BootDrakBootLilo/Grub Mode (Configure)Then ok at the first dialog, then you can delete entries and set a new default. OR Go into /etc/lilo.conf in a text editor as root and then edit the file by hand. Once you have done this, run lilo at the command line as root. Just type lilo and it will make your edited file live for the next reboot. Hope this helps. Cheers Jason Top poster! Top poster! Get zee gun, schnell, schnell! Oh yes. I forgot. Run lilo as root. Wouldn't that happen automagically when the machine rebooted anyway, tho? no /sbin/lilo is different than reading the MBR as LILO does when booting. ?sbin/lilo commits the changes to the mbr typo, last line should be; /sbin/lilo commits the changes to the mbr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LiLo Boot
On 24 Aug 2003 20:09:01 -0400 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: no /sbin/lilo is different than reading the MBR as LILO does when booting. ?sbin/lilo commits the changes to the mbr gotcha, thanks for clarifying! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ I just forgot my whole philosophy of life!!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo config
Here we go again, since you seem to have missed it: Yes, there are 2 ways to do this. Go into the Mandrake Control Center and change boot options. BootDrakBootLilo/Grub Mode (Configure)Then ok at the first dialog, then you can delete entries and set a new default. OR Go into /etc/lilo.conf in a text editor as root and then edit the file by hand. Once you have done this, run lilo at the command line as root. Just type lilo and it will make your edited file live for the next reboot. Hope this helps. Cheers Jason Russ wrote: Hi All, I originally set this computer up as a dual boot with Lilo booting to Windows by default (for my daughter). I now only have Linux here but I can't figure out how to remove the Windows boot from Lilo. Can anyone point me in the proper direction please (I know it can be done because I did it before)? Thanks Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo config
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 4:34 am, Russ wrote: Hi All, I originally set this computer up as a dual boot with the Windows as default (for my daughter). I no longer have the Windows partition but I cannot figure out how to remove that link from lilo. Could someone point me in the right direction? Edit /etc/lilo.conf (as root) and comment out the lines about windows. Save and exit and then run lilo. Regards Mark A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LiLo Boot
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:28:51 + Dick Gevers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: If you are able to run lilo as something other than root you should be shot`cause that means you`ve got a very serious security problem. I always add as root, because if not there is the inevitable reply, I ran 'lilo' and I got this error... ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Wisdom is rarely found on the best-seller list. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] lilo frustration!
I finally was able to change the default to windows, but it should have been easier. First I opened MCC then selected the big boot icon, got a screen which had a lilo configure button (been there, done that), then another screen containing a drop down of boot devices. Nothing yet about a default boot OS. There are no other buttons on this screen that indicate other windows or panels. BUT just for kicks, I just pressed the OK button (which not what users do unless they made a change). OH NO, it wants to install another package! What the H, I gave the CD it wanted. After installation it showed me another screen with a boot list containing windows. I selected windows, which gave me a final screen to set windows as default. Rebooted, and windows was first on the lilo boot screen! The original install must have gliched but it didn't tell me. Thanks to all who responded. mike -Original Message- From: FemmeFatale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] lilo frustration! At 03:16 PM 6/3/2003 +0100, you wrote: content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does MDK control center not enable you to do this? Tony. yes...under the BOOT Section. its not hard to find.. there will be a screen after the BOOT Section, goto the LILO or boot options screen (its a button IIRC) and in there is a dropdown list ofhte options lilo gives you. The default is linux to boot...change that to the windows section uncheck the Unsafe box. You'll see what I mean if you poke around in there. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] lilo frustration!
On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 09:07, Adolf, Michael F wrote: I finally was able to change the default to windows, but it should have been easier. First I opened MCC then selected the big boot icon, got a screen which had a lilo configure button (been there, done that), then another screen containing a drop down of boot devices. Nothing yet about a default boot OS. There are no other buttons on this screen that indicate other windows or panels. BUT just for kicks, I just pressed the OK button (which not what users do unless they made a change). OH NO, it wants to install another package! What the H, I gave the CD it wanted. After installation it showed me another screen with a boot list containing windows. I selected windows, which gave me a final screen to set windows as default. Rebooted, and windows was first on the lilo boot screen! The original install must have gliched but it didn't tell me. Thanks to all who responded. mike I did what you did... i forgot to mention the OK Button... apologies luv. But i can' tse why it'd need to install something here either!? WTF? -- Femme *** *Using Evolution on * *Mandrake 9.1 Loving it!* Suck it M$hit! OWNED! * *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo frustration!
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:49, Adolf, Michael F wrote: I am trying unsuccessfully to make windows the default boot in lilo. Post your /etc/lilo.conf and we'll re-write it for you mate. -- Tue Jun 3 23:00:00 EST 2003 23:00:00 up 4 days, 8:09, 4 users, load average: 0.25, 0.25, 0.20 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Only a fool has no doubts. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] lilo frustration!
I am at work now. I'll post tomorrow. Thanks -Original Message- From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:02 AM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] lilo frustration! On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:49, Adolf, Michael F wrote: I am trying unsuccessfully to make windows the default boot in lilo. Post your /etc/lilo.conf and we'll re-write it for you mate. -- Tue Jun 3 23:00:00 EST 2003 23:00:00 up 4 days, 8:09, 4 users, load average: 0.25, 0.25, 0.20 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Only a fool has no doubts. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] lilo frustration!
Does MDK control center not enable you to do this? Tony. -Original Message- From: Adolf, Michael F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:53 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] lilo frustration! I am at work now. I'll post tomorrow. Thanks -Original Message- From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:02 AM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] lilo frustration! On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:49, Adolf, Michael F wrote: I am trying unsuccessfully to make windows the default boot in lilo. Post your /etc/lilo.conf and we'll re-write it for you mate. -- Tue Jun 3 23:00:00 EST 2003 23:00:00 up 4 days, 8:09, 4 users, load average: 0.25, 0.25, 0.20 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Only a fool has no doubts. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo frustration!
On Tue June 3 2003 07:16 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Does MDK control center not enable you to do this? It lets you do it. It's a slow starting tool, but i hafta say, if you don't quite know what you are doing, it tends to do it right for you... eric I am trying unsuccessfully to make windows the default boot in lilo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] lilo frustration!
I tried several ways, I'm sure MDK was one of them. I think MDK took me thru several lilo configuration windows, but none that allowed windows to be selected. There was one window that displayed a list (6 radio button choices) from which to select a default, but each selection was exactly the same, something like, /dev/hda... The first one was selected. Maybe I should have selected the button in the same position as 'windows' is on the lilo boot display. 6 choices, all the same doesn't seem right to me. mike -Original Message- From: Tony S. Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] lilo frustration! Does MDK control center not enable you to do this? Tony. -Original Message- From: Adolf, Michael F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:53 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] lilo frustration! I am at work now. I'll post tomorrow. Thanks -Original Message- From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:02 AM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] lilo frustration! On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:49, Adolf, Michael F wrote: I am trying unsuccessfully to make windows the default boot in lilo. Post your /etc/lilo.conf and we'll re-write it for you mate. -- Tue Jun 3 23:00:00 EST 2003 23:00:00 up 4 days, 8:09, 4 users, load average: 0.25, 0.25, 0.20 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Only a fool has no doubts. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo frustration!
On Tuesday 03 Jun 2003 4:35 pm, Adolf, Michael F wrote: I tried several ways, I'm sure MDK was one of them. I think MDK took me thru several lilo configuration windows, but none that allowed windows to be selected. There was one window that displayed a list (6 radio button choices) from which to select a default, but each selection was exactly the same, something like, /dev/hda... The first one was selected. Maybe I should have selected the button in the same position as 'windows' is on the lilo boot display. 6 choices, all the same doesn't seem right to me. Mike, I haven't tried it that way, so I may be off-beam. Seems to me possible though that you are mis-reading it. It's likely that it's saying that it's booting from hda - i.e. that is where it will get the lilo and /boot configuration. In your lilo.conf there will be a line at or near the beginning on the lines of boot=/dev/hda Could be wrong, but have another look at mcc and see if this is what it's referring to. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)
Thanks, this is very insteresting. I had assumed that multi-boot NT/linux could be done ony from lilo, now I learn that it can be done with the NT loader. Just one question on the dd command below: the first parameter in reality is if=/boot, right? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raffaele, you have to perform these steps: - dd if0/boot of=linux.bin bs=512 count=1 - copy linux.bin on the root partition of your XP/NT/2k system - update your boot.ini appending the following line: c:\Linux.bin=Linux Note that at that stage (while in the boot loader) NT boot partition is C regardless on how how windows names it. rebboot and you'll have the nt bootloader booting both O.S. Hope this helps. Ciao Leonardo. --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Leonardo, we installed lilo on the first sector of the /boot partition, as reccomended by the RH help for NT-linux coexistence on the same disk (in case of W95/98-linux coexistance it reccomended to put lilo in MBR instead), but I admit I did not understand why. What's this difference between W2K and W98m in terms of bootloader? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raffaele, did you install lilo on your root / partition or on your master partition? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)
Raffaele, sorry it was a mistake, the command is dd if=boot device* bs=512 count=1 of=linux.bin (*ie. /dev/xxx). I do have that configuration and it works fine. Actually you don't ever need lilo (unless you load initrd or are feeding kernel parameters).If this is your case just uninstall lilo (lilo -u) and go through the steps I wrote you. Ciao. Leonardo. --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Thanks, this is very insteresting. I had assumed that multi-boot NT/linux could be done ony from lilo, now I learn that it can be done with the NT loader. Just one question on the dd command below: the first parameter in reality is if=/boot, right? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raffaele, you have to perform these steps: - dd if0/boot of=linux.bin bs=512 count=1 - copy linux.bin on the root partition of your XP/NT/2k system - update your boot.ini appending the following line: c:\Linux.bin=Linux Note that at that stage (while in the boot loader) NT boot partition is C regardless on how how windows names it. rebboot and you'll have the nt bootloader booting both O.S. Hope this helps. Ciao Leonardo. --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Leonardo, we installed lilo on the first sector of the /boot partition, as reccomended by the RH help for NT-linux coexistence on the same disk (in case of W95/98-linux coexistance it reccomended to put lilo in MBR instead), but I admit I did not understand why. What's this difference between W2K and W98m in terms of bootloader? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raffaele, did you install lilo on your root / partition or on your master partition? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)
Raffaele, did you install lilo on your root / partition or on your master partition? Do you want to dual boot your machine or only mount your ntfs partition? If you want to mount it you have to compile the ntfs module at least and then go with modprobe or insmod. That doesn't depend upon Lilo. Leonardo. --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: I'm helping a friend install RedHat7.3. I realize now how good the MDK distributions are! We are trying to have a dual boot with W2K. The problem is that after RH installation, LILO does not show the W2K option. No problem, we think, let's boot in linux and insert in lilo.conf the additional entry, but it doesn't work: lilo refuses to upgrade the MBR because it does not see the partition hda5 (were W2K is). Looking better, we see that hda5 is not mounted at all. So we mkdir /mnt/windows and add a new entry in fstab with appropriate parameters. But now mount /mnt/windows reveals that ntfs is not build into the kernel. We try an insmod ntfs, but the module cannot be located: it's not present in the /lib/modules/.../ directory. :-( My understanding is that lilo refuses to upgrade the bootloader because it first tries to validate the lilo.conf accessing the partitions there indicated, but in our case fails because there is no ntfs support in the kernel and exits. It there a way around this mess? raffaele Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)
That's what I thought, and I did exactly as you write. But, running lilo to update the bootloader, we got the error message partition not found or something alike, and the bootloader was not changed. Thanks for the link, I was quite surprised seeing that ntfs is not included in RH. I guess MDK sets expectations too high. Anyway, the problem is partly solved: reinstalling RH, we noticed that there was an error in the way we configured the bootloader, and that's why the windows entry did not show up in the lilo menu. thanks again, raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irregardless of whether the kernel has NTFS built into it, you should still be able to get lilo to recognise the partition and boot to it. Your lilo should have an entry like: other=/dev/hda5 label=windows table=/dev/hda You HAVE to rerun lilo after modifying the /etc/lilo.conf - but this should work. If you want to mount the partition, you can find the NTFS modules at: http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/ They require no recompiling of the kernel - just run the RPM package suitable for your kernel and you're all set. Just remember that writing to NTFS partitions is NOT a good idea under anything than Windows... HTH! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)
Leonardo, we installed lilo on the first sector of the /boot partition, as reccomended by the RH help for NT-linux coexistence on the same disk (in case of W95/98-linux coexistance it reccomended to put lilo in MBR instead), but I admit I did not understand why. What's this difference between W2K and W98m in terms of bootloader? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raffaele, did you install lilo on your root / partition or on your master partition? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 03:15, Russ wrote: Hi All, Shut down my computer last night and everything was just fine. Booted this morning and got an L followed by rows of 01. I did make a boot disk but that was before I redid my system and now Linux is on the second disk, so obviously that didn't work (I'll have to redo it for my current system. Anyone mind pointing me to the correct spot and save me a little time hunting). So then I decided to pop in CD 1 and do something there (wasn't sure what but I was going to look around). Pressed F1 for more info and stumbled onto a function that repairs Lilo. I did it and it seems to be healthy again. Can anyone shed some light on why Lilo burped? Thanks Russ Almost every time I see that error it has to do with something causing your /boot partition from being the active partition. I usually fix it with a Win98 boot disk and FDISK to reset the active partition - then after reboot, works like a charm. -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:50:00 +1100 5:50am up 10 days, 15:33, 6 users, load average: 0.10, 0.09, 0.18 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- In our civilization, and under our republican form of government, intelligence is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of office. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
Not to correct you Stephen, but isn't it something like fdisk -mbr or something? Hate to see somebody run fdisk without that mbr option and ruin their current setup.. OTH Steve On 27 Jan 2003 05:55:24 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 03:15, Russ wrote: Hi All, Shut down my computer last night and everything was just fine. Booted this morning and got an L followed by rows of 01. I did make a boot disk but that was before I redid my system and now Linux is on the second disk, so obviously that didn't work (I'll have to redo it for my current system. Anyone mind pointing me to the correct spot and save me a little time hunting). So then I decided to pop in CD 1 and do something there (wasn't sure what but I was going to look around). Pressed F1 for more info and stumbled onto a function that repairs Lilo. I did it and it seems to be healthy again. Can anyone shed some light on why Lilo burped? Thanks Russ Almost every time I see that error it has to do with something causing your /boot partition from being the active partition. I usually fix it with a Win98 boot disk and FDISK to reset the active partition - then after reboot, works like a charm. -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:50:00 +1100 5:50am up 10 days, 15:33, 6 users, load average: 0.10, 0.09, 0.18 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- In our civilization, and under our republican form of government, intelligence is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of office. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary -- Linux user #280097 Machine #162480 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 06:29, Steve Jeppesen wrote: Not to correct you Stephen, but isn't it something like fdisk -mbr or something? Hate to see somebody run fdisk without that mbr option and ruin their current setup.. OTH Steve Generally, when you run FDISK, you are presented with options - mostly 4 options if you have one disk, 5 options if you have more than one disk. Option 2 is to SET ACTIVE PARTITION Just in running the MS-DOS FDISK doesn't kill or delete anything, although I do know of people that randomly smash keys and do silly things - but mostly you would ASSUME that people would read what's placed in front of them prior to either clicking on something or hitting a key...(g) -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 06:35:00 +1100 6:35am up 10 days, 16:18, 6 users, load average: 0.31, 0.24, 0.26 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Success is relative: It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. -- T.S. Eliot, The Family Reunion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 9:08 pm, you wrote: Except that PM tells me I have a problem with my partitions, and doesn't go any further. Anne Here's the trick with PM - You HAVE to have some type of partition it can write to - be it a diskette or be it an actual FAT/VFAT partition. It only needs to write ONE file there - a pqtmp.fil - then it will run. Another way of getting around this is to copy the dos utilities from the PM setup to a CDROM and put the pqtmp.fil in the root dir of the CD (or on the root of a boot floppy) so that it can be run... It's actually in the docs for PM...just a matter of RTM... I'll dig it out and look into it tomorrow. I confess I read it when I got it and haven't looked at it since. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
HI Stephen, You may be onto something here. This is what I did; On my original try with Linux this go around I just disconnected my old HD and partitioned a new one, Installed Win98 on the first half and Linux on the second. Then I decided to slave them together. So I simply uninstalled Lilo. Now when booted to that HD it boots directly to my new Win98 install. I then slaved the two together. Both HD's (Maxtors) are set to CS. My old HD is in the master position and my new one is on the slave. I reinstalled Linux on the second HD (same partition only now it was a slave disk instead of master). Now Lilo was installed on my OLD HD and it set itself to boot to all three OS's (old Win98 on old HD - New Win98 on first partition new HD - and Linux on second HD). I did it this way just to see if Win98 would boot on a slaved drive. I had heard that it would not. Therefore both HD's were bootable. Now, would that have caused the problem I had? I shut the computer down and started it again today and it did it again so I just erased Lilo (through the CD again) Thanks Russ - Original Message - On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 03:15, Russ wrote: Hi All, Shut down my computer last night and everything was just fine. Booted this morning and got an L followed by rows of 01. I did make a boot disk but that was before I redid my system and now Linux is on the second disk, so obviously that didn't work (I'll have to redo it for my current system. Anyone mind pointing me to the correct spot and save me a little time hunting). So then I decided to pop in CD 1 and do something there (wasn't sure what but I was going to look around). Pressed F1 for more info and stumbled onto a function that repairs Lilo. I did it and it seems to be healthy again. Can anyone shed some light on why Lilo burped? Thanks Russ Almost every time I see that error it has to do with something causing your /boot partition from being the active partition. I usually fix it with a Win98 boot disk and FDISK to reset the active partition - then after reboot, works like a charm. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 08:46, Russ wrote: HI Stephen, You may be onto something here. This is what I did; On my original try with Linux this go around I just disconnected my old HD and partitioned a new one, Installed Win98 on the first half and Linux on the second. Then I decided to slave them together. So I simply uninstalled Lilo. Now when booted to that HD it boots directly to my new Win98 install. I then slaved the two together. Both HD's (Maxtors) are set to CS. My old HD is in the master position and my new one is on the slave. I reinstalled Linux on the second HD (same partition only now it was a slave disk instead of master). Now Lilo was installed on my OLD HD and it set itself to boot to all three OS's (old Win98 on old HD - New Win98 on first partition new HD - and Linux on second HD). I did it this way just to see if Win98 would boot on a slaved drive. I had heard that it would not. Therefore both HD's were bootable. Now, would that have caused the problem I had? I shut the computer down and started it again today and it did it again so I just erased Lilo (through the CD again) Yeppers - shore would have caused it. Are you done switching disks around now? (g) -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:35:01 +1100 9:35am up 10 days, 19:18, 6 users, load average: 0.28, 0.23, 0.19 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- We only support a 28000 bps connection. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo (and a bit OT)
Thank you all. W2K definitely seems to demand /dev/hda1. Here's what I'm trying to do: I have a laptop, supplied by my company, w/ W2K installed in a single partition on the first harddrive. I also have a second harddrive on which I have shown that I can install LM9 and use Samba to connect to my company network and be productive (vs W2K where I wait for everything). I can swap the two drives and place either in the first or second position. Since there are some things for which I must continue to use W2K, but I don't want to muck with the company drive (or its MBR), I'd like to setup my own drive w/ Lilo in the MBR allowing me the option of booting to LM9 or W2K. I don't have access to W2K install disks. Can I create a small windows partition on the new /dev/hda1 and make a copy of bboot.ini, ntdetect.com and ntldr there? Do I need to modify boot.ini? How should I do so or where can I go for info? (I can handle the LM installation.) TIA Paul On Friday 17 January 2003 03:05 pm, _nasturtium wrote: Hello! On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:51 pm, civileme wrote: On Thursday 16 January 2003 06:04 am, Paul Kaplan wrote: What is the correct lilo.conf entry for Windows2K on a second hard disk (/dev/hdc)? W2K is the only OS on that disk and there is only one partition on that disk. AFAIK there is NO correct entry for that situation. I don't believe the win2K bootloader will handle that. Yes and no (see below). Your LILO entry is correct if win2K would actually boot from other than the first IDE device. Frankly, as I remember I was flagged by the windows installer when a customer asked for that setup and it told me Windows had to be (at least partially) on the first disk, so the installation is a good AFAIK you're correct, the first hard disk needs to have ntdetect.com, ntldr and a boot.ini installed for windows 2000 to boot. However, once those files are there you can boot from any hard disk. A typical boot.ini entry might be: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT.0=Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional -NT5 /fastdetect Of course NT setup would create the appropriate settings; you might for example have Windows98 or even DOS installed, Command Console et al. So win2k can only boot from the first device, but can be mainly installed elsewhere... question... Did you install windows in that position? I remember installing windows on other than /dev/hda in an IDE setup, but that was with /dev/hda known to the BIOS as an LS120, and in that case linux and windows booted off of /dev/hdc which was the first genuine hard drive. Civileme People curse and fix it according to one vehement linux critic. I hope you're not talking about me =P Regards, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo (and a bit OT)
Paul Kaplan wrote: Thank you all. W2K definitely seems to demand /dev/hda1. Here's what I'm trying to do: I have a laptop, supplied by my company, w/ W2K installed in a single partition on the first harddrive. I also have a second harddrive on which I have shown that I can install LM9 and use Samba to connect to my company network and be productive (vs W2K where I wait for everything). I can swap the two drives and place either in the first or second position. Since there are some things for which I must continue to use W2K, but I don't want to muck with the company drive (or its MBR), I'd like to setup my own drive w/ Lilo in the MBR allowing me the option of booting to LM9 or W2K. I don't have access to W2K install disks. Can I create a small windows partition on the new /dev/hda1 and make a copy of bboot.ini, ntdetect.com and ntldr there? Do I need to modify boot.ini? How should I do so or where can I go for info? (I can handle the LM installation.) TIA Paul Why not make your first drive the windblows drive, your second drive the linux drive, and install lilo in the mbr to boot both OS's. It's simple staraight forward and when you choose to hand the machine back you can remove your drive and use the dos switch to remove lilo. Then in the next laptop all you have to do is fit your linux drive back and restore lilo to the mbr. So why go the windblows loader route which adds unnecessary complication. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO messed up?
s. Wizard wrote: Going to answer my own question on this one...no guts no glory, right? Changed the 0x81 to 0x80 and rebooted, life was good again. s.W On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 01:32, s. Wizard wrote: Hi all, I have a dual-boot box which, after some messing with, I fear I've broken. I'm successfully booting right now, but that means manual interference, otherwise, I get a quick boot-up welcome of 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 printed across my screen and a locked workstation. Anyway, what I'm trying to do is be my workstation to stop trying to boot from hde and start from hdf, which is the first drive in my BIOS boot-up. I've googled around a bit, and haven't found anything that'll help me, particularly with this line. snip disk=/dev/hdf bios=0x81 /snip ...I understand the disk=/dev/hdf but what is the bios=0x81? What do I change that to so I don't have to manually stop my system's boot-up, pick which disk I want to boot from, and then let it go from there? Thanks in advance, I don't know what you'll need to answer my question...so I hope I can provide what you request Thanks, s.Wizard Where does this disk=/dev/hdf bios=0x80 go ? can anyone explain the changed and change result? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo
On Thursday 16 January 2003 06:04 am, Paul Kaplan wrote: What is the correct lilo.conf entry for Windows2K on a second hard disk (/dev/hdc)? W2K is the only OS on that disk and there is only one partition on that disk. The following hangs with the message Loading Windows: other=/dev/hdc1 label=windows table=/dev/hdc TIA Paul AFAIK there is NO correct entry for that situation. I don't believe the win2K bootloader will handle that. Your LILO entry is correct if win2K would actually boot from other than the first IDE device. Frankly, as I remember I was flagged by the windows installer when a customer asked for that setup and it told me Windows had to be (at least partially) on the first disk, so the installation is a good question... Did you install windows in that position? I remember installing windows on other than /dev/hda in an IDE setup, but that was with /dev/hda known to the BIOS as an LS120, and in that case linux and windows booted off of /dev/hdc which was the first genuine hard drive. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 02:04, Paul Kaplan wrote: What is the correct lilo.conf entry for Windows2K on a second hard disk (/dev/hdc)? W2K is the only OS on that disk and there is only one partition on that disk. The following hangs with the message Loading Windows: other=/dev/hdc1 label=windows table=/dev/hdc TIA Paul Paul, it should just read: other=/dev/hdc label=windows table=/dev/hdc When you specify the /dev/hdc1, it is looking for an extended partition thereof (do not confuse what I'm saying with an EXTENDED PARTITION) - either which, this should work for ya. -- Fri Jan 17 08:05:00 EST 2003 8:05am up 17:48, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.11 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- The most important service rendered by the press is that of educating people to approach printed matter with distrust. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo
Paul Kaplan wrote: What is the correct lilo.conf entry for Windows2K on a second hard disk (/dev/hdc)? W2K is the only OS on that disk and there is only one partition on that disk. The following hangs with the message Loading Windows: other=/dev/hdc1 label=windows table=/dev/hdc TIA Paul That entry seems correct. Is hdc your first ide device ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo
Hello! On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:51 pm, civileme wrote: On Thursday 16 January 2003 06:04 am, Paul Kaplan wrote: What is the correct lilo.conf entry for Windows2K on a second hard disk (/dev/hdc)? W2K is the only OS on that disk and there is only one partition on that disk. AFAIK there is NO correct entry for that situation. I don't believe the win2K bootloader will handle that. Yes and no (see below). Your LILO entry is correct if win2K would actually boot from other than the first IDE device. Frankly, as I remember I was flagged by the windows installer when a customer asked for that setup and it told me Windows had to be (at least partially) on the first disk, so the installation is a good AFAIK you're correct, the first hard disk needs to have ntdetect.com, ntldr and a boot.ini installed for windows 2000 to boot. However, once those files are there you can boot from any hard disk. A typical boot.ini entry might be: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT.0=Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional -NT5 /fastdetect Of course NT setup would create the appropriate settings; you might for example have Windows98 or even DOS installed, Command Console et al. So win2k can only boot from the first device, but can be mainly installed elsewhere... question... Did you install windows in that position? I remember installing windows on other than /dev/hda in an IDE setup, but that was with /dev/hda known to the BIOS as an LS120, and in that case linux and windows booted off of /dev/hdc which was the first genuine hard drive. Civileme People curse and fix it according to one vehement linux critic. I hope you're not talking about me =P Regards, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO messed up?
Going to answer my own question on this one...no guts no glory, right? Changed the 0x81 to 0x80 and rebooted, life was good again. s.W On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 01:32, s. Wizard wrote: Hi all, I have a dual-boot box which, after some messing with, I fear I've broken. I'm successfully booting right now, but that means manual interference, otherwise, I get a quick boot-up welcome of 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 printed across my screen and a locked workstation. Anyway, what I'm trying to do is be my workstation to stop trying to boot from hde and start from hdf, which is the first drive in my BIOS boot-up. I've googled around a bit, and haven't found anything that'll help me, particularly with this line. snip disk=/dev/hdf bios=0x81 /snip ...I understand the disk=/dev/hdf but what is the bios=0x81? What do I change that to so I don't have to manually stop my system's boot-up, pick which disk I want to boot from, and then let it go from there? Thanks in advance, I don't know what you'll need to answer my question...so I hope I can provide what you request Thanks, s.Wizard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo graphical
On Friday 03 Jan 2003 3:54 am, Russ wrote: HI Anne, Thank you for responding to this post. Sorry for the delay in responding. It sort of slipped through the cracks (long story, I won't bore you with the facts). Anyway, I checked that file and it did say 5 on that line. I did know about the problem with exiting without saving so that wasn't the problem either. It did work in grub mode but I like eye candy (KDE vs GNOME? I was all for gnome till kde3 - no contest now) so I refused to just accept the situation. I did figure it out though. Here is the answer in case someone else has a similar problem. The problem was Trends ChipAway virus detector in my BIOS. While in GRUB mode the boot process slipped right though without a hitch. When in Graphical mode Trend would pop up telling me there was a boot virus and I had to tell it to continue before it would move on then it gave me the text screen. When I disabled Trend it worked perfectly. Glad you got it sorted. And glad you recognised the importance of passing on the knowledge :) Thanks Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo graphical
MCCBootBoot ConfigConfigureThen in the dialog box that pops up, in the dropdown box under bootloader to use simply select LILO with graphical menu. Done and save changes on exit of MCC. Hope this helps. Cheers Jason Russ wrote: Hi All, can anyone tell me how to change lilo to graphical instead of text? I am using MD9 download and I have messed with the setting in Mandrake Control Center - Boot Config. No matter what I do in there it doesn't seem to change anything. Thanks Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo graphical
HI Anne, Thank you for responding to this post. Sorry for the delay in responding. It sort of slipped through the cracks (long story, I won't bore you with the facts). Anyway, I checked that file and it did say 5 on that line. I did know about the problem with exiting without saving so that wasn't the problem either. It did work in grub mode but I like eye candy (KDE vs GNOME? I was all for gnome till kde3 - no contest now) so I refused to just accept the situation. I did figure it out though. Here is the answer in case someone else has a similar problem. The problem was Trends ChipAway virus detector in my BIOS. While in GRUB mode the boot process slipped right though without a hitch. When in Graphical mode Trend would pop up telling me there was a boot virus and I had to tell it to continue before it would move on then it gave me the text screen. When I disabled Trend it worked perfectly. Thanks Russ - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday 01 Jan 2003 7:05 pm, Russ wrote: Hi All, can anyone tell me how to change lilo to graphical instead of text? I am using MD9 download and I have messed with the setting in Mandrake Control Center - Boot Config. No matter what I do in there it doesn't seem to change anything. Thanks Russ In the file :/etc/inittab there is a line id:5:initdefault: In your case the 5 will have been set to 3, I think. As far as I know, altering the boot in MCC will simply change this, so it should be safe to do that. Just make sure that you have a boot disk handy, in case I'm wrong !! The problem with MCC is that it is too easy to exit without saving changes, so I guess this happened with you - you saved the first time, but not subsequent ones. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:55:07 -0600 Mr. VLE79E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to configure LILO so it does not automatically run Linux. Open up /etc/lilo.conf as root with your favorite editor, there should be a line where it probably says default=linux now, change that line so it says default=windows or whatever your windowspartitionlabel is. Best Regards, Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
...and issue #lilo on the command line , otherwise changes do not take effect. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:55:07 -0600 Mr. VLE79E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to configure LILO so it does not automatically run Linux. Open up /etc/lilo.conf as root with your favorite editor, there should be a line where it probably says default=linux now, change that line so it says default=windows or whatever your windowspartitionlabel is. Best Regards, Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 21:55, Mr. VLE79E wrote: How to configure LILO so it does not automatically run Linux. If you look below at my /etc/lilo.conf - you'll see the default=Linux - you can change how the default boot is setup in yours by editing basically the same way, then run lilo from a term window - then on next boot, you'll boot to your new default. prompt timeout=50 default=Linux boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b message=/boot/new_message vga=1 lba32 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-3 label=Linux initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-3.img read-only root=/dev/hda5 append=hdd=ide-scsi other=/dev/hda1 optional label=Windows Cheers! -- Thu Dec 12 22:30:01 EST 2002 10:30pm up 1 day, 14:52, 7 users, load average: 0.47, 0.56, 0.80 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Take time to reflect on all the things you have, not as a result of your merit or hard work or because God or chance or the efforts of other people have given them to you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:32:05 +0100 Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and issue #lilo on the command line , otherwise changes do not take effect. raffaele Oooppsss...of course, I forgot that, thanks for correcting me... although /sbin/lilo might be necissary if it says command not found after just typing lilo /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
h no wonder it didn't work. I will give it a shot later.. From: Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] LILO Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:07:50 +0100 On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:32:05 +0100 Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and issue #lilo on the command line , otherwise changes do not take effect. raffaele Oooppsss...of course, I forgot that, thanks for correcting me... although /sbin/lilo might be necissary if it says command not found after just typing lilo /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com t _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
plz check /etc/lilo.conf On Thursday 12 December 2002 03:55 am, Mr. VLE79E wrote: How to configure LILO so it does not automatically run Linux. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. (719) 473-2800 x15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO
El jue, 12-12-2002 a las 04:55, Mr. VLE79E escribió: How to configure LILO so it does not automatically run Linux. You can edit the configuration file manually (/etc/lilo.conf) as root or use the GUI tool in the Mandrake Control Center, under boot. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time (something weird?)
- Original Message - From: Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03 Dec 2002 20:50:49 -0500 To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time (something weird?) If you're making the changes and re-running lilo and not seeing any response then the 'lilo.conf' file you're editing must not be the file that lilo is using. Do you have a dual boot system? Do you have multiple drives? Do a 'locate lilo.conf' (as root) and tell us what you see. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA *** [root@localhost angus]# locate lilo.conf /home/angus/tmp/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf /usr/share/man/man5/lilo.conf.5.bz2 --- (The lilo.conf in ~/tmp is a copy that I have just created for reference). I have one hd on my comp and I have a dual boot w/WinME. I am not experiencing any obvious booting probs, just an inability to choose the lilo text menu, which I have had since installing 9.0 about 2 months ago, and suddenly lost. Now I am presented w/the lilo graphical menu at bootup, regardless of my changes in MCC or to lilo.conf manually. --Angus -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time (something weird?)
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 02:45, Angus Auld wrote: [root@localhost angus]# locate lilo.conf /home/angus/tmp/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf /usr/share/man/man5/lilo.conf.5.bz2 --- (The lilo.conf in ~/tmp is a copy that I have just created for reference). I have one hd on my comp and I have a dual boot w/WinME. I am not experiencing any obvious booting probs, just an inability to choose the lilo text menu, which I have had since installing 9.0 about 2 months ago, and suddenly lost. Now I am presented w/the lilo graphical menu at bootup, regardless of my changes in MCC or to lilo.conf manually. --Angus The one in /etc/ is the correct one. That's the one that SHOULD affect any changes to the system Question, though - are you absolutely sure you're not using GRUB w/ text? Just forgot, and ain't have enough coffee yet this morning... -- Thu Dec 5 09:20:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Q: Why don't lawyers go to the beach? A: The cats keep trying to bury them. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time (something weird?)
If you're making the changes and re-running lilo and not seeing any response then the 'lilo.conf' file you're editing must not be the file that lilo is using. Do you have a dual boot system? Do you have multiple drives? Do a 'locate lilo.conf' (as root) and tell us what you see. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 00:18, Angus Auld wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 10:45, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the pointers Charlie, Stephen. I am now getting a 30 second delay, for some reason however, lilo has switched to a graphical login mode! I want the text mode, and I had it since installing 9.0. I have tried changing it back to text mode in MCC, but when I reboot, it goes back to graphical mode. :-/ What's up with that?? I must have messed something up somewhere. I guess my system was too much in order. Should have left well enough alone maybe..can't learn that way though! I installed watchdog-5.2-2mdk, xmms-cdread-0.14a-2mdk, and the latest wallpaper-0.1-4tex. Could watchdog have something to do with this behaviour? Anyone have any experience w/watchdog? I've been monkeying with file associations lately too. Where is the file that contains the info for lilo's boot mode? I don't see any mention of that in /etc/lilo.conf. My system seems to be working OK. TIA for any help. :-) --Angus An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Anon. The bit with menu scheme= needs to be removed, rerun lilo and you'll have the text based lilo back to text based! (Whacked) -- boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=300 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw - delete this line ^^^ (Whacked) -- -- Tue Dec 3 12:40:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn By doing just a little every day, you can gradually let the task completely overwhelm you. ** Something weird is happening w/lilo here. I cut out that menu_scheme line in lilo.confstill getting graphical lilo menu. I tried to make the changes in MCC again, rebooted...still graphical lilo. When I went back and checked lilo.conf, the menu_scheme line was back in place. There is a bunch of files in /boot that are unreadable with any text editor I have. Just a bunch of gibberish code stuff. I could read these files before, and I edited the message-text file just a couple days ago. Am I suffering from some kind of file corruption here, or what? Also In /boot/grub there are a bunch of similar gibberish files. These are the files that are unreadable in /boot: boot0300, map, message-graphic, message-text, us.kit, vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk and in /boot/grub: e2fs_stage1_5, fat_stage1_5, jfs_stage1_5, minix_stage1_5, reiserfs_stage1_5, stage1, stage2, vstafs_stage1_5, xfs_stage1_5 What can I do now? Has my dual-boot M$ system pulled a dirty trick on Mdk? I should have ditched that sucker! Help please. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** when you make changes to Lilo did you then run, from console, /sbin/lilo? w/o the quotes of course. Whenever you make changes to lilo it is best to do this or they will not hold at next bootup. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 ** Thanks for your reply Dennis. I have run the /sbin/lilo after the changes. MCC just keeps putting things back after I change them. I don't know what brought this about. I have uninstalled watchdog,
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time (something weird?)
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 12:50, Terry Smith wrote: If you're making the changes and re-running lilo and not seeing any response then the 'lilo.conf' file you're editing must not be the file that lilo is using. Do you have a dual boot system? Do you have multiple drives? Do a 'locate lilo.conf' (as root) and tell us what you see. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA I would be rather surprised to find lilo.conf outside of where it's supposed to live - at least a viable copy of lilo.conf - there has to be more to this picture than meets the eye... -- Wed Dec 4 16:00:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Mulder: Lots of files. Scully: Lots and lots of files! The X-Files: Paper Clip Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time
On December 2, 2002 06:15 am, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings...another newbie ques. I have changed the default boot time for lilo in MCC from 10 seconds to 30. However, I need to know how I can change the text message to read 30 instaed of the default 10. I am using lilo w/the text display. I have tried editing the file /boot/message-text, but that hasn't worked. My default boot time has been lengthened, but the message still says 10 seconds :-/ Can someone help. TIA. --Angus Howdy Angus; Have you looked at file:/etc/lilo.conf yet? You'd be looking at the line that says 'timeout=xxx'. In my case it's 50, but I only want a 5 second delay to choose a kernel to boot or allow default boot. So for the 30 second delay you want you'd have timeout=300, correct? After you change it open a terminal and type: su root password when prompted /sbin/lilo -v to register the configuration change. I'd do that anyway even if it already reads 300 since it's apparent that something isn't kosher. I still don't trust the Mandrake Control Center completely. Some of the things that made me smile during the beta/RC testing for 9.0 seem to have degenerated into a bad joke on those of us that raved about the new release before it was a release. sigh Such is life Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org If all the world's a stage, I want to operate the trap door. -- Paul Beatty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time
On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 00:15, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings...another newbie ques. I have changed the default boot time for lilo in MCC from 10 seconds to 30. However, I need to know how I can change the text message to read 30 instaed of the default 10. I am using lilo w/the text display. I have tried editing the file /boot/message-text, but that hasn't worked. My default boot time has been lengthened, but the message still says 10 seconds :-/ Can someone help. TIA. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** Open a terminal window and type lilo - that will do ya. -- Tue Dec 3 07:00:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn In a whiskey it's age, in a cigarette it's taste and in a sports car it's impossible. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time
- Original Message - From: Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 09:48:32 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time On December 2, 2002 06:15 am, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings...another newbie ques. I have changed the default boot time for lilo in MCC from 10 seconds to 30. However, I need to know how I can change the text message to read 30 instaed of the default 10. I am using lilo w/the text display. I have tried editing the file /boot/message-text, but that hasn't worked. My default boot time has been lengthened, but the message still says 10 seconds :-/ Can someone help. TIA. --Angus Howdy Angus; Have you looked at file:/etc/lilo.conf yet? You'd be looking at the line that says 'timeout=xxx'. In my case it's 50, but I only want a 5 second delay to choose a kernel to boot or allow default boot. So for the 30 second delay you want you'd have timeout=300, correct? After you change it open a terminal and type: su root password when prompted /sbin/lilo -v to register the configuration change. I'd do that anyway even if it already reads 300 since it's apparent that something isn't kosher. I still don't trust the Mandrake Control Center completely. Some of the things that made me smile during the beta/RC testing for 9.0 seem to have degenerated into a bad joke on those of us that raved about the new release before it was a release. sigh Such is life Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org If all the world's a stage, I want to operate the trap door. -- Paul Beatty ** Thanks for the pointers Charlie, Stephen. I am now getting a 30 second delay, for some reason however, lilo has switched to a graphical login mode! I want the text mode, and I had it since installing 9.0. I have tried changing it back to text mode in MCC, but when I reboot, it goes back to graphical mode. :-/ What's up with that?? I must have messed something up somewhere. I guess my system was too much in order. Should have left well enough alone maybe..can't learn that way though! I installed watchdog-5.2-2mdk, xmms-cdread-0.14a-2mdk, and the latest wallpaper-0.1-4tex. Could watchdog have something to do with this behaviour? Anyone have any experience w/watchdog? I've been monkeying with file associations lately too. Where is the file that contains the info for lilo's boot mode? I don't see any mention of that in /etc/lilo.conf. My system seems to be working OK. TIA for any help. :-) --Angus An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Anon. -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time
On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 10:45, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the pointers Charlie, Stephen. I am now getting a 30 second delay, for some reason however, lilo has switched to a graphical login mode! I want the text mode, and I had it since installing 9.0. I have tried changing it back to text mode in MCC, but when I reboot, it goes back to graphical mode. :-/ What's up with that?? I must have messed something up somewhere. I guess my system was too much in order. Should have left well enough alone maybe..can't learn that way though! I installed watchdog-5.2-2mdk, xmms-cdread-0.14a-2mdk, and the latest wallpaper-0.1-4tex. Could watchdog have something to do with this behaviour? Anyone have any experience w/watchdog? I've been monkeying with file associations lately too. Where is the file that contains the info for lilo's boot mode? I don't see any mention of that in /etc/lilo.conf. My system seems to be working OK. TIA for any help. :-) --Angus An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Anon. Here's what my lilo.conf looks like: /etc/lilo.conf prompt timeout=50 default=Linux boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b message=/boot/message vga=1 lba32 ...now, where it says vga=1, remove that. Then, under the parts below: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-3 label=Linux initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-3.img read-only root=/dev/hda5 append=hdd=ide-scsi ...you might see something else pertaining to either vga or graphics - remove them. Save the lilo.conf, re-run lilo. Then you're back to text mode. Dig dat! -- Tue Dec 3 10:50:01 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Be sure to evaluate the bird-hand/bush ratio. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time
On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 10:45, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the pointers Charlie, Stephen. I am now getting a 30 second delay, for some reason however, lilo has switched to a graphical login mode! I want the text mode, and I had it since installing 9.0. I have tried changing it back to text mode in MCC, but when I reboot, it goes back to graphical mode. :-/ What's up with that?? I must have messed something up somewhere. I guess my system was too much in order. Should have left well enough alone maybe..can't learn that way though! I installed watchdog-5.2-2mdk, xmms-cdread-0.14a-2mdk, and the latest wallpaper-0.1-4tex. Could watchdog have something to do with this behaviour? Anyone have any experience w/watchdog? I've been monkeying with file associations lately too. Where is the file that contains the info for lilo's boot mode? I don't see any mention of that in /etc/lilo.conf. My system seems to be working OK. TIA for any help. :-) --Angus An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Anon. Here's what my lilo.conf looks like: /etc/lilo.conf prompt timeout=50 default=Linux boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b message=/boot/message vga=1 lba32 ...now, where it says vga=1, remove that. Then, under the parts below: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-3 label=Linux initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-3.img read-only root=/dev/hda5 append=hdd=ide-scsi ...you might see something else pertaining to either vga or graphics - remove them. Save the lilo.conf, re-run lilo. Then you're back to text mode. Dig dat! -- Tue Dec 3 10:50:01 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Be sure to evaluate the bird-hand/bush ratio. Here's a copy of my lilo.conf for you to peruse. I don't know what you mean by removing vga=1. Mine is vga=normal, and that seems to refer to the actual video mode (resolution) for boot up! I changed the settings in MCC again, and for mode I chose ask me. Well that was a mistake! :-S I then got myself into a frightening episode w/a cursor blinking at me waiting for me to answer! DUH! Not sure. I guess I needed the reminder to let me know that I'm still a big-time newbiestill a bit of text phobia of sorts. :-( All I want is my text menu lilo boot screen back. Mdk just doesn't want to give it back to me for some reason. I can make the changes in MCC, click OK, and then open the configure box again to see that it has changed back to lilo with graphical menu. I want lilo with text menu. Anyone have any idea why I can't get that back? --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze lilo.conf Description: Binary data Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time
On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 12:35, Angus Auld wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 10:45, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the pointers Charlie, Stephen. I am now getting a 30 second delay, for some reason however, lilo has switched to a graphical login mode! I want the text mode, and I had it since installing 9.0. I have tried changing it back to text mode in MCC, but when I reboot, it goes back to graphical mode. :-/ What's up with that?? I must have messed something up somewhere. I guess my system was too much in order. Should have left well enough alone maybe..can't learn that way though! I installed watchdog-5.2-2mdk, xmms-cdread-0.14a-2mdk, and the latest wallpaper-0.1-4tex. Could watchdog have something to do with this behaviour? Anyone have any experience w/watchdog? I've been monkeying with file associations lately too. Where is the file that contains the info for lilo's boot mode? I don't see any mention of that in /etc/lilo.conf. My system seems to be working OK. TIA for any help. :-) --Angus An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Anon. The bit with menu scheme= needs to be removed, rerun lilo and you'll have the text based lilo back to text based! (Whacked) -- boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=300 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw - delete this line ^^^ (Whacked) -- -- Tue Dec 3 12:40:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn By doing just a little every day, you can gradually let the task completely overwhelm you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time (something weird?)
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03 Dec 2002 12:44:30 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 12:35, Angus Auld wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 10:45, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the pointers Charlie, Stephen. I am now getting a 30 second delay, for some reason however, lilo has switched to a graphical login mode! I want the text mode, and I had it since installing 9.0. I have tried changing it back to text mode in MCC, but when I reboot, it goes back to graphical mode. :-/ What's up with that?? I must have messed something up somewhere. I guess my system was too much in order. Should have left well enough alone maybe..can't learn that way though! I installed watchdog-5.2-2mdk, xmms-cdread-0.14a-2mdk, and the latest wallpaper-0.1-4tex. Could watchdog have something to do with this behaviour? Anyone have any experience w/watchdog? I've been monkeying with file associations lately too. Where is the file that contains the info for lilo's boot mode? I don't see any mention of that in /etc/lilo.conf. My system seems to be working OK. TIA for any help. :-) --Angus An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Anon. The bit with menu scheme= needs to be removed, rerun lilo and you'll have the text based lilo back to text based! (Whacked) -- boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=300 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw - delete this line ^^^ (Whacked) -- -- Tue Dec 3 12:40:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn By doing just a little every day, you can gradually let the task completely overwhelm you. ** Something weird is happening w/lilo here. I cut out that menu_scheme line in lilo.confstill getting graphical lilo menu. I tried to make the changes in MCC again, rebooted...still graphical lilo. When I went back and checked lilo.conf, the menu_scheme line was back in place. There is a bunch of files in /boot that are unreadable with any text editor I have. Just a bunch of gibberish code stuff. I could read these files before, and I edited the message-text file just a couple days ago. Am I suffering from some kind of file corruption here, or what? Also In /boot/grub there are a bunch of similar gibberish files. These are the files that are unreadable in /boot: boot0300, map, message-graphic, message-text, us.kit, vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk and in /boot/grub: e2fs_stage1_5, fat_stage1_5, jfs_stage1_5, minix_stage1_5, reiserfs_stage1_5, stage1, stage2, vstafs_stage1_5, xfs_stage1_5 What can I do now? Has my dual-boot M$ system pulled a dirty trick on Mdk? I should have ditched that sucker! Help please. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time (something weird?)
On Monday 02 December 2002 09:02 pm, Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03 Dec 2002 12:44:30 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 12:35, Angus Auld wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 10:45, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the pointers Charlie, Stephen. I am now getting a 30 second delay, for some reason however, lilo has switched to a graphical login mode! I want the text mode, and I had it since installing 9.0. I have tried changing it back to text mode in MCC, but when I reboot, it goes back to graphical mode. :-/ What's up with that?? I must have messed something up somewhere. I guess my system was too much in order. Should have left well enough alone maybe..can't learn that way though! I installed watchdog-5.2-2mdk, xmms-cdread-0.14a-2mdk, and the latest wallpaper-0.1-4tex. Could watchdog have something to do with this behaviour? Anyone have any experience w/watchdog? I've been monkeying with file associations lately too. Where is the file that contains the info for lilo's boot mode? I don't see any mention of that in /etc/lilo.conf. My system seems to be working OK. TIA for any help. :-) --Angus An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Anon. The bit with menu scheme= needs to be removed, rerun lilo and you'll have the text based lilo back to text based! (Whacked) -- boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=300 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw - delete this line ^^^ (Whacked) -- -- Tue Dec 3 12:40:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn By doing just a little every day, you can gradually let the task completely overwhelm you. ** Something weird is happening w/lilo here. I cut out that menu_scheme line in lilo.confstill getting graphical lilo menu. I tried to make the changes in MCC again, rebooted...still graphical lilo. When I went back and checked lilo.conf, the menu_scheme line was back in place. There is a bunch of files in /boot that are unreadable with any text editor I have. Just a bunch of gibberish code stuff. I could read these files before, and I edited the message-text file just a couple days ago. Am I suffering from some kind of file corruption here, or what? Also In /boot/grub there are a bunch of similar gibberish files. These are the files that are unreadable in /boot: boot0300, map, message-graphic, message-text, us.kit, vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk and in /boot/grub: e2fs_stage1_5, fat_stage1_5, jfs_stage1_5, minix_stage1_5, reiserfs_stage1_5, stage1, stage2, vstafs_stage1_5, xfs_stage1_5 What can I do now? Has my dual-boot M$ system pulled a dirty trick on Mdk? I should have ditched that sucker! Help please. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** when you make changes to Lilo did you then run, from console, /sbin/lilo? w/o the quotes of course. Whenever you make changes to lilo it is best to do this or they will not hold at next bootup. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time (something weird?)
On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 10:45, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the pointers Charlie, Stephen. I am now getting a 30 second delay, for some reason however, lilo has switched to a graphical login mode! I want the text mode, and I had it since installing 9.0. I have tried changing it back to text mode in MCC, but when I reboot, it goes back to graphical mode. :-/ What's up with that?? I must have messed something up somewhere. I guess my system was too much in order. Should have left well enough alone maybe..can't learn that way though! I installed watchdog-5.2-2mdk, xmms-cdread-0.14a-2mdk, and the latest wallpaper-0.1-4tex. Could watchdog have something to do with this behaviour? Anyone have any experience w/watchdog? I've been monkeying with file associations lately too. Where is the file that contains the info for lilo's boot mode? I don't see any mention of that in /etc/lilo.conf. My system seems to be working OK. TIA for any help. :-) --Angus An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Anon. The bit with menu scheme= needs to be removed, rerun lilo and you'll have the text based lilo back to text based! (Whacked) -- boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=300 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw - delete this line ^^^ (Whacked) -- -- Tue Dec 3 12:40:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn By doing just a little every day, you can gradually let the task completely overwhelm you. ** Something weird is happening w/lilo here. I cut out that menu_scheme line in lilo.confstill getting graphical lilo menu. I tried to make the changes in MCC again, rebooted...still graphical lilo. When I went back and checked lilo.conf, the menu_scheme line was back in place. There is a bunch of files in /boot that are unreadable with any text editor I have. Just a bunch of gibberish code stuff. I could read these files before, and I edited the message-text file just a couple days ago. Am I suffering from some kind of file corruption here, or what? Also In /boot/grub there are a bunch of similar gibberish files. These are the files that are unreadable in /boot: boot0300, map, message-graphic, message-text, us.kit, vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk and in /boot/grub: e2fs_stage1_5, fat_stage1_5, jfs_stage1_5, minix_stage1_5, reiserfs_stage1_5, stage1, stage2, vstafs_stage1_5, xfs_stage1_5 What can I do now? Has my dual-boot M$ system pulled a dirty trick on Mdk? I should have ditched that sucker! Help please. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** when you make changes to Lilo did you then run, from console, /sbin/lilo? w/o the quotes of course. Whenever you make changes to lilo it is best to do this or they will not hold at next bootup. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 ** Thanks for your reply Dennis. I have run the /sbin/lilo after the changes. MCC just keeps putting things back after I change them. I don't know what brought this about. I have uninstalled watchdog, thinking it may have something to do with this weird behaviour. I had installed it yesterday, and these troubles started at bootup today. I may have to do some sort of reinstall, but I hate to do that. If things don't progressively get out of control, and it just means I have to look at the graphical lilo menu, well, I'll let MCC have it's way for now. I'm new to Linux, and run past my abilities really fast. This list keeps me in the center of things. I've had 9.0 on
Re: [newbie] Lilo problems - almost there
On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 1:41 am, Terry Smith wrote: Excellent Anne! Good job. Why don't you post your new lilo.conf file and we'll see if folks can deduce what's wrong with the 8.2 stanza. boot=/dev/hde map=/boot/map vga=normal default=Mandrake_8.2 keytable=/boot/uk.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw disk=/dev/hde bios=0x80 image=/boot/vmlinuz label=Mandrake_9.0-2. root=/dev/hdf1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=nobiospnp devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk label=failsafe root=/dev/hdf1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-16mdk.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi read-only other=/dev/hde1 label=windows table=/dev/hde map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe image=/boot/vmlinuz label=Mandrake_8.2 root=/dev/hde6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=nobiospmp devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi vga=normal read-only I have learned a lot, but over the next day or so, I'll be asking questions about the bits that are still unclear. Thanks for your help. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo problems - almost there
Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 1:41 am, Terry Smith wrote: Excellent Anne! Good job. Why don't you post your new lilo.conf file and we'll see if folks can deduce what's wrong with the 8.2 stanza. boot=/dev/hde map=/boot/map vga=normal default=Mandrake_8.2 keytable=/boot/uk.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw disk=/dev/hde bios=0x80 image=/boot/vmlinuz label=Mandrake_9.0-2. root=/dev/hdf1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=nobiospnp devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk label=failsafe root=/dev/hdf1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-16mdk.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi read-only other=/dev/hde1 label=windows table=/dev/hde map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe image=/boot/vmlinuz should be image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk label=Mandrake_8.2 root=/dev/hde6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img should be initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-6mdk.img append=nobiospmp devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi vga=normal read-only I have learned a lot, but over the next day or so, I'll be asking questions about the bits that are still unclear. Thanks for your help. Anne You are not telling the system which kernel and initrd file to use, and it's best to define both kernels and initrd files for both Mandrake OS , even though it has booted one OS on the one ill defined version. When you get used to this you can download other peoples amended kernel versions and install them in /boot partition, and write a new stanza to boot on it, without removing anything of the old setup, that way you can test things out easily. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo problems - almost there
On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 10:20 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: snip label=Mandrake_8.2 root=/dev/hde6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=nobiospmp devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi should be: append=nobiospnp devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo problems - almost there
On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 8:12 pm, Sharrea wrote: On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 10:20 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: snip label=Mandrake_8.2 root=/dev/hde6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=nobiospmp devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi should be: append=nobiospnp devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi Sharrea Oops - typos are so much harder to spot on screen than on paper. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo problems - almost there
Excellent Anne! Good job. Why don't you post your new lilo.conf file and we'll see if folks can deduce what's wrong with the 8.2 stanza. Terry Smith On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 16:01, Anne Wilson wrote: Thanks to the questions Terry asked last night and John's suggestions today, I have finally achieved a partially workable lilo. Problem is, the brain stops working with anything like efficiency when the going gets not just rough but crucial. Eventually it dawned on me that I have a boot disk - that's what they're for, isn't it? For a while I could boot into 9.0 from the floppy but couldn't get in any other way. Eventually, using the clues from Terry and John, I used MCC to reconstruct my lilo. Now the boot into 9.0 work perfectly. I also added an entry for 8.2, but that was only partially successful, so I'll have to work on that a bit more. It did, in fact, boot into 8.2, but failed to load the mouse, sound, and a list of other modules. Any clues on this would be gratefully received. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo nopnpbios
Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 08 Nov 2002 10:21 pm, you wrote: Marcia wrote: Dear All, I have read from the Linux-Mandrake site that it is a good idea to put into lilo this line linux nopnpbios if you have the via chipset and Mandrake 9. Is this true and exactly how and where does one do this? Thanks. Marcia No , I don't think that is right , Marcia, least it was not right for me. I needed that addition to the append line because of not wanting the boot to hang on Plug and play detection, hense nobiospnp, it was something to do with not wanting the os to look at bios settings in regard to pnp detection.Anyway it had nothing to do with the via soundchip situation. Though you too may need that same line for the same reasons as I did. For the record:- append=devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi nobiospnp John John, I have to have bios pnp enabled for win98 boots, and have wondered if that is the cause of some of my problems. If I try this append, do I simply add it for the cd-rw and for the cd-dvd (the one that isn't scsi configured for some reason)? I presume that for the second one it would be ...hdx=ide nobiospnp? Anne The addition of nobiospnp is just that nothing to do with the scsi-em additions, it has to go somewhere in the append line, needn't be at the end but within the quote marks. I guess the append line is basically there for the purpose of adding corrections to the boot process, so other things can go there to, like memory limitations and such like. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo nopnpbios
On Friday 08 November 2002 03:58 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com wrote: Dear All, I have read from the Linux-Mandrake site that it is a good idea to put into lilo this line linux nopnpbios if you have the via chipset and Mandrake 9. Is this true and exactly how and where does one do this? Thanks. Marcia I have a VIA chipset and don't have to do that! not everyone should, only if it helps with random lockups. But if you're going to have to edit your lilo.conf, you will find it in the /etc directory - just make a backup copy of it. I'm not sure where exactly you're going to put that line, but after you have finished editing, and saving the file, you type lilo again to write it to the system...then reboot... 11 09 2002 ____ / \ /| |'-. .\__/ || | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | / \__.`=._) (_ |/ ._/ || |'. `\ | | ;/ / | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| ' `-`' !! !s.m.kuhn! ! kuhn media australia - kma.0catch.com ! !! ! Why is there such a controversy about ! ! drug testing? I know plenty of guys ! !who'd be willing to test any drug ! ! they can come up with. --George Carlin ! !! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO Settings
I have not as yet figured out how to do this graphically, but editing the lilo.conf file in /etc seems to do this well enough. I would suggest making a specifically named backup copy of 'lilo.conf' (like lilo.conf.orig) so that the original can't be overwritten while you play around with the changes you wish to make. I don't know that I would feel comfortable about removing the 'booting from floppy' or 'safe mode boot' options from your menu. They are there for very good reasons, and you never know when you might need to call upon one. Murphy's Law seems constantly overshadows me, waiting for me to take a shortcut and then gladly cursing me for doing so! ;-) You can rearrange the order of boot sections, so why not just place the last resort options at the bottom of your choice? Just be sure that you have your default choice listed first, if you are going to allow the system to automatically pick one after a period of time. And make sure that you move complete groups so as not to leave behind any orphan lines that could cause your boot-up not to work, or not go as expected. If you prefer to let the system hang there for as long as you wish to make a choice, delete the line that says timeout=100. Does this make sense? :-) T - Original Message - From: DaveA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:21 AM Subject: [newbie] LILO Settings Hi y'all. Where do I find the settings for what is displayed when the initial LILO menu comes up on boot? It comes up with a list of all the different partitions on my PC, but I just want it to show the 2 LILO ones, one for Win98 and one for 2000 (or maybe one for both flavours of Windoze with it's own menu?) TIA, DaveA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LILO Settings
Ooops! I forgot to tell you that you need to change the line that says default=linux to reflect the label of whatever you decide to make your default boot option, if in fact this will be different. Sorry! :-( T - Original Message - From: Technoslick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] LILO Settings I have not as yet figured out how to do this graphically, but editing the lilo.conf file in /etc seems to do this well enough. I would suggest making a specifically named backup copy of 'lilo.conf' (like lilo.conf.orig) so that the original can't be overwritten while you play around with the changes you wish to make. I don't know that I would feel comfortable about removing the 'booting from floppy' or 'safe mode boot' options from your menu. They are there for very good reasons, and you never know when you might need to call upon one. Murphy's Law seems constantly overshadows me, waiting for me to take a shortcut and then gladly cursing me for doing so! ;-) You can rearrange the order of boot sections, so why not just place the last resort options at the bottom of your choice? Just be sure that you have your default choice listed first, if you are going to allow the system to automatically pick one after a period of time. And make sure that you move complete groups so as not to leave behind any orphan lines that could cause your boot-up not to work, or not go as expected. If you prefer to let the system hang there for as long as you wish to make a choice, delete the line that says timeout=100. Does this make sense? :-) T - Original Message - From: DaveA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:21 AM Subject: [newbie] LILO Settings Hi y'all. Where do I find the settings for what is displayed when the initial LILO menu comes up on boot? It comes up with a list of all the different partitions on my PC, but I just want it to show the 2 LILO ones, one for Win98 and one for 2000 (or maybe one for both flavours of Windoze with it's own menu?) TIA, DaveA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
