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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:52:35 -0600 Tom Brinkman disseminated the following: Anyway, I put everything back together, and I've been running mprime for the past 6 -7 hours, no errors, no problems. Could it be that the improperly seated NIC was the cause of all the instability? I'm hopin' so, I really want that server back in biz. Yep, and I've seen/heard of even stranger things ;) Call me crazy, but I think the probs my server box were having were spilling over to my wkstn. When the server started crashing all the time, my wkstn would have constant segfaults and FS lockups, requiring a reboot. I shut the server down, and since not connecting to it with Samba shares or SSH, my wkstn: 10:02:59 up 16 days, 11:05, 4 users, load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.00 Could a badly seated NIC on the server could cause another box communicating with it to complain? In any case, cross my fingers, the server looks like it's stable again. My new mantra: user -- hardware -- OS ;-) -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Well, he might as well have been bombing Denmark. -- Gore Vidal, on the bombing of Afghanistan after 9/11 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sunday 01 February 2004 10:06 am, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:52:35 -0600 Tom Brinkman disseminated the following: Anyway, I put everything back together, and I've been running mprime for the past 6 -7 hours, no errors, no problems. Could it be that the improperly seated NIC was the cause of all the instability? I'm hopin' so, I really want that server back in biz. Yep, and I've seen/heard of even stranger things ;) Call me crazy, but I think the probs my server box were having were spilling over to my wkstn. When the server started crashing all the time, my wkstn would have constant segfaults and FS lockups, requiring a reboot. I shut the server down, and since not connecting to it with Samba shares or SSH, my wkstn: 10:02:59 up 16 days, 11:05, 4 users, load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.00 Could a badly seated NIC on the server could cause another box communicating with it to complain? short answer,,, yes, if a persitant or 'hard' mount was used between the 2 boxes. In any case, cross my fingers, the server looks like it's stable again. My new mantra: user -- hardware -- OS ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 15:33:14 -0500 et disseminated the following: Could a badly seated NIC on the server could cause another box communicating with it to complain? short answer,,, yes, if a persitant or 'hard' mount was used between the 2 boxes. Man for awhile there I was really gettin' frustrated. Amazing how problems can be related to things you would never think of. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power-- Benito Mussolini Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:52:35 -0600 Tom Brinkman disseminated the following: Anyway, I put everything back together, and I've been running mprime for the past 6 -7 hours, no errors, no problems. Could it be that the improperly seated NIC was the cause of all the instability? I'm hopin' so, I really want that server back in biz. Yep, and I've seen/heard of even stranger things ;) ...actually, I left it running overnight, for a total of about 20 hours, and it was still passing the torture tests this AM. Anyway, I'm gonna reinstall the system, as after all those crashes there's a lot of corruption, in particular the rpm database (cannot install, uninstall packages) and see how it goes. Thanks Tom! -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Life is not a static thing. The only people who do not change their minds are incompetents in asylums who can't and those in cemeteries.-- Everett Dirksen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Tom Brinkman wrote: cpu temp 50C System temp 32C Both of these will go up about 5C when you just boot into the OS. Under load, that will climb about another 10C or more. No, it stays the same about 50C on desktop, the maximum rise is to about 56C on full load conditions and the cpu usage up to 90+%, and in any case the bios is currently set to shut down at 60C, so it would never be allowed to reach the temperatures you suggest. However this is going to shock you. AMD appear to sanction a maximum die temperature of 90 C, yes I repeat 90C, I know, how can anything electrical survive at 90C, beats me and I would never allow that on principle, but judge for yourself. John Later = The spec sheet supplied was unreadable, sorry, but , Better still is AMD technical support reply :- -- Dear Mr Smith, Thank you for your interest in the AMD range of products. The maximum operating temperature of your AMD processor is 85C. The operating temperature of a system or processor is highly dependent on the characteristics of the system as a whole and the combination of components that make up the system. Consequently, the normal operating temperature will vary from system to system, depending on each system's make-up. Some of the variables that affect the operating temperature of a system are: case size, air flow characteristics, installed components, processor speed, processor heatsink/fan solution, thermal interface material, power supply, voltage settings, workload, and ambient air temperature. An approximation to the typical reading from a BIOS or an external software utility is expected to be around 60ºC-65ºC or lower. I hope this will help you. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me again. Best regards, Frank Hoehn mcse Technical Support Engineer AMD European Technical Services Centre www.amd.com/eurosupport - This merely confirms my previous assumption that my AMD AthlonXP palamino operating temperate range of between 49C to 56C is currently within technical specs of the manufacturers recommendations. It is unlikely to be the cause of premature system seizure under full load cpu conditions, I think. I will keep an open mind though. So the voltages supplied to the system seems OK, The cpu operting temperatures seem OK right up to and under full load conditions. So it would start to suggest either, memory, Mobo, kernel, or app. Well that's how it seems to me. I am now trying to ascertain an exact description of the memory stick. Here in the uk the suppliers don't co-operate that much. They don't seem to think one should ask questions about memory suppliers, and the sticks themselves often don't reveal that much. I will come back with whatever I can find out. In the meantime I would welcome some suggestions as to how I could put the memory stick to a real test situation. Somethng that just eliminates all doubt. I don't know how to do that. I have used memtest before and it passed the test fine. As Tom says, it probably isn't that defining a tests as it might be, I don't know. But since I'm trying to get to the bottom of this eliminating all doubts on the hardware has to be the main task ahead of me at this time. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thursday 29 January 2004 09:48 am, JoeHill wrote: If it errors, it just puts out a mesg that it stopped on hardware errors. As with any stress test, it's then up to you to sort out if it's cooling, PSU, cpu/cache/ram, motherboard, etc. Well, if it's the MOBO or CPU, then I'm not gonna bother trying to fix it, it's not worth it. It's served it's time well enough. However, if it's the memory only, I could eliminate that possibility with memtest, no? You could start with memtest86, BUT I've seen a lot of times that mprime will catch errors that memtest86 passes. Memtest86 is NOT just a ram test. Any software of this sort is of course testing and dependant on the whole system from the PSU on up. Particularly the motherboard is just as important as the ram used, for ram performance and reliability. Many times ram errors, specially if the ram has been reliable in the past, can be solved by reseating the ram sticks, and/or swapping the slots their in. Of course clean the contacts also. Rubbing lightly across them with with a pencil eraser. Also, as electronic components age, it's often helpful to increase the voltage to them a little (if your mobo supports doin so). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:33:51 -0600 Tom Brinkman disseminated the following: However, if it's the memory only, I could eliminate that possibility with memtest, no? You could start with memtest86, BUT I've seen a lot of times that mprime will catch errors that memtest86 passes. Memtest86 is NOT just a ram test. Any software of this sort is of course testing and dependant on the whole system from the PSU on up. Particularly the motherboard is just as important as the ram used, for ram performance and reliability. Many times ram errors, specially if the ram has been reliable in the past, can be solved by reseating the ram sticks, and/or swapping the slots their in. Of course clean the contacts also. Rubbing lightly across them with with a pencil eraser. Also, as electronic components age, it's often helpful to increase the voltage to them a little (if your mobo supports doin so). As alway, thanks Tom. You da hardware *man*! I'll try the software (after giving the hardware a goin' over) and see how it goes. 'D be a shame to give up on that little P166, it's served me very well. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be.-- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thursday 29 January 2004 02:52 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: However this is going to shock you. AMD appear to sanction a maximum die temperature of 90 C, yes I repeat 90C, I know, how can anything electrical survive at 90C, beats me and I would never allow that on principle, but judge for yourself. John No shock at all. Your CPU is probly AMD spec'd to fail at 95C. Newer AMD's and even P4's, at 100C and higher. Newest Intel's as high as 110C. High Ghz comes at the price of high wattage and it's resulting high heat dissipation. The die's are designed and fabbed with this in mind. When the say fail they mean *fried*. Also, electronic components aren't like iron skillets. They're internal core temps (and that is what is spec'd) change up and down almost instantly, sometimes drastically. You don't see this in bios, or in lm_sensors, because the SMBus/i2c is sampled at intervals. Processors of the last few years will go from room temp to failure in a few seconds, if the heatsink and fan are removed or improperly installed/functioning. The newest processors even quicker. Back to the core temp spec, I stress that's the internal core temp. With an AMD chip, particularly one as old as yours, the CPU temp is gathered from a probe. Either from a contact thermistor, or read from a CPU pin (how hot the pin is). From a pin is a little more accurate, but that is the temp you see in bios and what lm_sensors reads. AMD specs that from 10C to 20C should be added to this probe temp to approximate the internal core temp. Now for your 1800+, I'd say you never want to see 60C probe temps. High 40's to low 50's would be normal under extreme load. If you do reach 60C or over, and your CPU has sustained that temp a few too many times in the past, the internal traces have weakened and become more resistant. The CPU will need more voltage (which further aggravates the heat situation), and will have become even less tolerant of high internal temps. Often, the only thing to do if you continue to use it, is to underclock. Which is what you're doin usin a 100Mhz FSB. Even then, reliability can be very iffy. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:33:51 -0600 Tom Brinkman disseminated the following: Many times ram errors, specially if the ram has been reliable in the past, can be solved by reseating the ram sticks, and/or swapping the slots their in. Of course clean the contacts also. Rubbing lightly across them with with a pencil eraser. Also, as electronic components age, it's often helpful to increase the voltage to them a little (if your mobo supports doin so). Well, I took the sucker apart, blew the dust out, checked the RAM was seated properly...and then I noticed the NIC was on a slight angle. It was partially unseated in the PCI slot. Anyway, I put everything back together, and I've been running mprime for the past 6 -7 hours, no errors, no problems. Could it be that the improperly seated NIC was the cause of all the instability? I'm hopin' so, I really want that server back in biz. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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David E. Fox wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:50:23 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 512MB of DDR ram, but sorry I don't understand the rference, make -j 100 # of parallel compiles: i.e., make -j 4 issues 4 gcc's on files in parallel. If you have a big source tree, or gobs of RAM, or multiple processors, you can get the job done faster. Obviously, there's an upper limit: -j 100 implies 100 copies of gcc (plus other things) running all at one time. Obviously, you would not want to do this unless your box had adequate spped memory. I've done a 'make -j 25' successfully on /usr/src/linux. But it was kind of painful. Some might consider it a decent stress tester of the overall system (disk/cpu/cashe/ram) because it can stress all these areas. Thank you David, Now that you point it's meaning out to me I fully understand. I can imagine, 100 compiles running side by side, gosh. As a matter of interst How does it apportion the task, I mean , your've got one compiles , chopped up into sections for each section it's compiling and then the make has to be reassembled, the mind boddles at the prospect. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thursday 29 January 2004 08:06 am, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:30:18 -0600 Tom Brinkman disseminated the following: You're in the directory the binary is in. You need to run './mprime -m'And run it as user, not root. The first time it'll ask you if you want to connect to the mprime server, say n, it won't ask again, and the menu will be displayed, choose 17. Would this test be of any use on an old P166? My webserver is crapping out on me and I don't know why. It's an old machine, could be the processor, RAM, I did swap the HD, so I'm fairly sure it's not that. I'm assuming this 'mprime' would output some diagnostic info on what might be wrong? If it errors, it just puts out a mesg that it stopped on hardware errors. As with any stress test, it's then up to you to sort out if it's cooling, PSU, cpu/cache/ram, motherboard, etc. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:30:18 -0600 Tom Brinkman disseminated the following: You're in the directory the binary is in. You need to run './mprime -m'And run it as user, not root. The first time it'll ask you if you want to connect to the mprime server, say n, it won't ask again, and the menu will be displayed, choose 17. Would this test be of any use on an old P166? My webserver is crapping out on me and I don't know why. It's an old machine, could be the processor, RAM, I did swap the HD, so I'm fairly sure it's not that. I'm assuming this 'mprime' would output some diagnostic info on what might be wrong? It will certainly test your system to the limit. Don't know if it will provide much analysis. It's designed to fulfill a long tern maths enquiry. How can I put it in simple terms, You know how the value of Pi (of circumference) is a never ending sum=3 1/7, goes on for ever, well mprime does something different looking for special numbers that take eons of calculus to find. So your processor works overtime looking for these numbers, and that tests it till eventually it overloads and hangs, eventually. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:41:54 -0600 Tom Brinkman disseminated the following: I'm assuming this 'mprime' would output some diagnostic info on what might be wrong? If it errors, it just puts out a mesg that it stopped on hardware errors. As with any stress test, it's then up to you to sort out if it's cooling, PSU, cpu/cache/ram, motherboard, etc. Well, if it's the MOBO or CPU, then I'm not gonna bother trying to fix it, it's not worth it. It's served it's time well enough. However, if it's the memory only, I could eliminate that possibility with memtest, no? -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Rule $19.99 (Brad `Squid' Shapcott): The Internet *isn't* *free*. It just has an economy that makes no sense to capitalism. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Tom Brinkman wrote: cpu temp 50C System temp 32C Both of these will go up about 5C when you just boot into the OS. Under load, that will climb about another 10C or more. No it stays the same about 50C , the maximum rise is to about 56C on full load conditions and the cpu usage up to 90+%, and in any case the bios is currently set to shut down at 60C, so it would never be allowed to reach the temperatures you suggest. However this is going to shock you. AMD appear to sanction a maximum die temperature of 90 C, yes I repeat 90C, I know, how can anything electrical survive at 90C, beats me and I would never allow that on principle, but judge for yourself. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] inline: snapshot354.jpgWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thursday 29 January 2004 09:48 am, JoeHill wrote: However, if it's the memory only, I could eliminate that possibility with memtest, no? Maybe, memtest86 isn't as good a test. Just a place to start. It doesn't test ram as the name suggests, but the whole system is involved. It might error on another components' weakness. It's popular because it's lite weight an easy. OTOH, bad ram is a first likely suspect. Often cleaning the contacts or just swapping slots will often fix memtest86 complaints. After all, Spirit Rover on Mars has a fixable problem. Marginal ram ;) Seems it's runnin BSD* on a Motorola chip. I doubt if memtest86 will sort it out tho. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:46:31 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one compiles , chopped up into sections for each section it's compiling and then the make has to be reassembled, the mind boddles at the prospect. Well, it could do it for subdirectories. If you look at big source trees, you see that much of the code is in subdirectories upon subdirectories etc - a big tree. Start at the top level (/usr/src/linux, for instance) and then do a 'make' in each subdirectory, all at the same time (as long as some directory or other doesn't depend on other results). Even something like 'make /usr/src/linux' (and many other source trees) starts off doing a top-level make that in turn invokes another make in the subdirectory, which in turn spawns other makes (and compiles, of course) in those subordinate directories. It may look mindboggling, but it's perfectly normal to have a dozen or so copies of make all running. Of course they're not *all* running at the same time (unless -j is used) but they take up some memory space. If there's sufficient ram, it's a faster way to do it than to simply issue a new make step for each source file in a serial fashion. It also makes sense given a heirarchical setup. John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Tom Brinkman wrote: If your MSI board is Revision 2.0C, it's AMD approved. What PSU and DDR Ram are you usin? If you have lm_sensors running, are the voltages at or a little over spec, and are they steady, specially under load (ie, with mprime, 17 running) ? Yep BTW, you probly won't be assured you're ready for Trancode and Mencoder till you can run 'burnK7' what's burn K7 ? for at least 10 or 15 minutes and stay properly cooled at 133x11.5. OK so I've spent best part of the day bobbing back and forth into bios and back to mprime . I've varied the memory settings from the least to the most demanding, according to the mobo manual.I manually reset the cpu and memory voltages as suggested. I don't actually note any significant variance . These are the most demanding settings used. CHIPSET FEATURES SETUP Configure SDRAM by user : user SDRAM frequency : HCLK Cas latency: 2 Row precharge time : 3T Ras pulse width: 5T RAS to CAS delay: 2T Bank interleave: 4 - way Burst length : 8QW SDRAM 1T Command : Enable = 1T Fast command : enable AGP mode:auto AGP Comp driving : auto Manual AGP Comp driving : [not applicable] AGP Fast write : enable AGP aperture size: 128MB ( var between 8/256MB)(S/B 64?) AGP Master 1 w/s write : enable AGP Master1 w/s read : enable Write to read delay : enable read to write delay (manual says enable/dis) : 0 (choice 0/1/2/3) AGP read synchronisation : enabled PCI delay transaction : enabled Bios protection : enabled I didn't mess with the AGP stuff at all, just config sdram to fast command. Looks to me like I have some pretty useless memory if stressing it between most and least demanding setting appears to have so little effect. Unless there can be something else having an overall effect on performance. I have geforce3 video card The cans look normal I honestly don't think there is a heat problem with either cpu or memory. I think I had better start investigating what memory manufacture best suits my mobo. Here is sensors output, sensors lm84-i2c-0-18 Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 0400 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter Board: +15°C (min = -1°C, max = -49°C)ALARM (LOW) CPU: +0°C (min = +28°C, max = -1°C) w83627hf-i2c-0-2d Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 0400 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter VCore 1: +1.71 V (min = +1.74 V, max = +1.93 V) VCore 2: +1.26 V (min = +1.74 V, max = +1.93 V) this looks low ? (What is VCore2 anyway?) +3.3V: +3.26 V (min = +3.13 V, max = +3.45 V) +5V: +4.91 V (min = +4.72 V, max = +5.24 V) +12V: +12.20 V (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.19 V) -12V: -11.98 V (min = -13.21 V, max = -10.90 V) -5V: -5.10 V (min = -5.26 V, max = -4.76 V) V5SB: +5.51 V (min = +4.72 V, max = +5.24 V) VBat: +3.39 V (min = +2.40 V, max = +3.60 V) fan1:0 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) fan2:0 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) fan3: 3708 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) vid: +1.850 V eeprom-i2c-0-50 Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 0400 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter Memory type:DDR SDRAM DIMM SPD Memory size (MB): 512 John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Wednesday 28 January 2004 02:42 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: If your MSI board is Revision 2.0C, it's AMD approved. What PSU and DDR Ram are you usin? If you have lm_sensors running, are the voltages at or a little over spec, and are they steady, specially under load (ie, with mprime, 17 running) ? Yep Again, what ram? What power supply? If either is decent, they'll have a label on them with manufacture and specs. BTW, you probly won't be assured you're ready for Trancode and Mencoder till you can run 'burnK7' what's burn K7 ? The correct Cpuburn module for your CPU. The rpm is on your CD's. I'm usincpuburn-1.4-5mdk for at least 10 or 15 minutes and stay properly cooled at 133x11.5. OK so I've spent best part of the day bobbing back and forth into bios and back to mprime . I've varied the memory settings from the least to the most demanding, according to the mobo manual.I manually reset the cpu and memory voltages as suggested. I don't actually note any significant variance . You won't. On average you'll get about 7% better performance with the tightest ram timings. BUT only in ram intensive proccesses like encoding. Better to do with 93% efficiency successfully, no? These are the most demanding settings used. CHIPSET FEATURES SETUP Configure SDRAM by user : user SPD SDRAM frequency : HCLK Cas latency: 2 3 Row precharge time : 3T no disable? Ras pulse width: 5T RAS to CAS delay: 2T 3 Bank interleave: 4 - way You should definetly have an option to disable this Burst length : 8QW This is best disabled in any event. It provides practically no benefit at any setting, 8QW could definitely cause problems SDRAM 1T Command : Enable = 1T Fast command : enable disable both AGP mode:auto AGP Comp driving : auto Manual AGP Comp driving : [not applicable] AGP Fast write : enable AGP aperture size: 128MB ( var between 8/256MB)(S/B 64?) A safe setting is 4mb. It effectively disables sidebanding. About AGP, for the gain (not much) over PCI, it also imposes extra load on cpu/cache/ram and motherboard/PSU. AGP Master 1 w/s write : enable AGP Master1 w/s read : enable Write to read delay : enable read to write delay (manual says enable/dis) : 0 (choice 0/1/2/3) AGP read synchronisation : enabled disable all these AGP options Looks to me like I have some pretty useless memory if stressing it between most and least demanding setting appears to have so little effect. Unless there can be something else having an overall effect on performance. Just tell me what it is. PCxxx (should be at least 2100, I'd use the next label up tho). CAS and ns rating, brand would be more helpful. Hint: Samsung chips on a generic PCB = generic ram The PCB (board the chips are on) is as important as the chips used. When you find name brand chips on a generic PCB, it's most likely the chips were rejects from the first line. As to ram, performance and reliability has 4 major factors. The ram itself, the motherboard, IO/voltage to the ram, and the PSU. One weak link and you've got instability, errors. I have geforce3 video card If you're usin the nVidia driver, remove it. Then you'll also need to reinstall your kernel 'rpm -ivh --force your_current_kernel_version.rpm' ...in order to remove the nVidia's kernel taints the kernel warned you about during the nVidia driver install. The cans look normal I honestly don't think there is a heat problem with either cpu or memory. I suspect either is the problem. BTW, your problem is not transcode, it's needin to underclock to boot and run Linux. I think I had better start investigating what memory manufacture best suits my mobo. Usually the mobo manufacturer makes recommends and non- recommends. Otherwise use high quality reputable DDR PC one or more label rating above the required (PC2100 for your board). Lower CAS and ns spec's are much more important than the PC label. Your board requires a minimum of 1000/133.3 = 7.5ns ram. Cas3 is OK, lower is better. Probly can't use the lower cas timing, but it goes along way towards insuring ram quality. Here is sensors output, sensors lm84-i2c-0-18 Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 0400 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter Board: +15°C (min = -1°C, max
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Tom Brinkman wrote, Usually the mobo manufacturer makes recommends and non- recommends. Otherwise use high quality reputable DDR PC one or more label rating above the required (PC2100 for your board). Lower CAS and ns spec's are much more important than the PC label. Your board requires a minimum of 1000/133.3 = 7.5ns ram. Cas3 is OK, lower is better. Probly can't use the lower cas timing, but it goes along way towards insuring ram quality. Here are the bios hardware monitoring outputs, cpu Vcore 1.725 DDR voltage 2.7 cpu temp 50C System temp 32C cpufan 3668 rpm Vcore 1.712 Vtt 1.376 V10 3.264 +5v 5.030 +12v12.228 -12v -11.989 -5v -5.077 Battery 3.424v +5v SB 4.969 The seem OK to me, I've disabled all the AGP stuff, No improvement in the torture test. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday 26 January 2004 01:53 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: mprime has been running over an hour, decided to end it there for the moment, Anyway no apparent problems there. I don't agree, 1 hour is an indication, IME you pass after about 8 hours or more, ie, overnite. So now for bios reset, FSB=133 Does your board also have FSB jumpers? Better boards do, a long with bios BSB settings. MSI K7T266 Pro2 Mobo. I don't understand the question. The CPU is a 133 MHz of course. You may change the FSB between 100/133, of course, and the PCI frequency may be selected, H/W = hardware config (currently set) The CPU ratio/Vcore voltage may be altered but I have it on the default setting. I'm not into pushing my components to excess just to see what breaks. Otherwise I cannot see what you refer to. === Your choice: 17 Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer. Please read stress.txt. Hit ^C to end this test. Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length. ==Total Lockup== The entire system locks up tight, no keyboard,no mouse, nothing, only left to crash our and reboot with fsck's to partitions and everything. Now one might be thinking that this indicates that there is a faulty CPU(Athlon 1800) More likely motherboard and/or ram, overheating, maybe PSU. Are all those components AMD approved? http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869,00.html I don't currently have the memory test programme installed, but I have had it on and run it thoughily with no reported problems, I doubt if anything has changed , this mencoder crashing the system on FSB=133 setting isn't new, goes back to the beginning. but for the fact that W2k and Gordian knot can run my FSB-133 setting and complete the encoding in less time than mencoder and without any stress to the cpu.This does not tend indicate a faulty cpu to my mind. I suspect the linux kernel is not particularly good at running cpu's like mine at it's maximum capacity. Actually, I believe your thinking is 180º off. W2K uses CPU/cache/ram very sloppily. Particularly motherboards, cache, ram, and harddrives. Often marginal systems will function with M$ crap, but fail Linux's greater demands on them. Well right now I wouldn't mind some of that sloppyness in my linux, if that is the case. I'm not certain it is. Mandrake makes my XP 3000+ (overclocked to over 3200+, 171Mhz FSB, ram at DDR 419) absolutely *FLY*. Mencoder or Trancode is fast and no problemo. Even for 7+Gig DVD ripping, encoding, or 800MB movie resizing. Same for mprime 17, or cpuburn's 'burnK7'. Many many kernels since 2.21.x, now 2.6.2rc1, with this hardware. Often with low latency, preempt versions. Others may disagree, but that is the feeling I have had for some time now. I noticed that there is a windblows version of mprime, it might be interesting if I downloaded it and installed in W2K and run the test again from there. But for now food for thought. John Try it, there's also a Winsux version of cpuburn. BUT, I suspect you can't use the correct FSB for your Athlon because of a marginal motherboard and/or ram. Could be ram timings in bios if you have them too tight. Try 3-3-3, banking disabled. Who makes the ram, and what are it's specs? Same ? for motherboard, PSU, video card and driver. What kernel parameters? IE, the append= line from lilo.conf. The memory stick isn't the best , but it ain't that bad either, has always passed the linux memory test OK. There's no thermistor so as far as memory stick running temperature is concerned, it's a fingers job , and it's running cool I don't have any qualms about the running temperature at all, it's OK. However the memory settings are a different matter.I have some choices, ADVANCED BIOS FEATURES Internal cache - writeback/disable System BIOS Cacheable - Enable diable C00.32k Shadow - Disable/Enable/Cached APIC FunctionAPIC Function - Enable/disable MPS Table Version - 1.4/1.1 ADVANCE CHIPSET FEATURES Configure SDRAMtiming - SPD/ EEPROM (but I have DDR memory ?) SDRAM Frequency - HCLK/HCLK+33/ HCLK-33/SPD (I have 133 MHz so SPD) CAS#Latency - 2/3 (2=increase, 3= stable) Row Precharge Time - 2T/3T RAS to CAS Delay - 3T/2T Bank Interleave - Disable/2-Way/4-Way. Burst Length - 4QW/8QW SDRAM1T Command Fast Command - Enable AGP mode - 1x/2x/4x Manual AGP Comp.Driving AGP FAST Write - enable/disable AGP Aperture size 4MB/8MB/16MB/32MB/64MB/128MB/256MB AGP MASTER 1 W/S Write - enable/disable AGP MASTER1 W/S read - enable/disable AGP Read synchroniszation - enable/disable Search for MDA Resources - (only for mono display adapter cards) PCI Delay Transaction - enable/disable Now not all those are to do with stick memory but they might affect the system performance in a mencoder type opperation, so I enclude them anyway. Frankly I don;t really have a clue about these setting, and the
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My guess that it might be a bridge or RAM issue. Do you mean the north bridge / southbridge stuff on my MSI board. I've written on another message about the memory. I don't mind buy better if that is what it takes, but don't want to buy unnecessaryily. Have you tried other memory-intensive things - like 'make -j 100' in /usr/src/linux? (That's a joke -- actually don't go that high, unless you have *gobs* of RAM. I have 512MB of DDR ram, but sorry I don't understand the rference, make -j 100 I'm going to be running mprime in windblows later today, will post the results. John Later = Well it seems we are all wrong. I didn't think there was any point in running FSB=100 in W2K So here is the result of my W2K mprime test, FSB=133 === Beginning a continueous self-test to check your computer. Please read stress.txt. Choose Test/Stop to end this test. Test1,400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024 FT length Test2,400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922943 using 1024 FT length Test3,400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874369 using 1024 FT length Test4,400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874367 using 1024 FT length Test5,400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825793 using 1024 FT length It actually got to Test6 but hung there. Now M9.1 hung right at the beginning at the start of test1.In effect it didn't get anywhere in FSB=133, so this is a better result than in M9.1, but to be honest, not that much better, not as as much as I fondly thought, which shows the importance of having realistic demanding tests to work with. Impressions can be both accurate and misleading. So I'm left thinking that something, whether memory or cpu works somewhat better in W2K on current settings, but that these may well not be the best and most appropriate settings for the equipement. Anyway I've got a few other things to do for a while now. Back later. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:50:23 + John Richard Smith disseminated the following: I don't understand the rference, make -j 100 From the manpage: -j jobs Specifies the number of jobs (commands) to run simultaneously. If there is more than one -j option, the last one is effective. If the -j option is given without an argument, make will not limit the number of jobs that can run simultaneously. 100? Yikes! I think *my* computer would melt, poor thing. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Not only do I think marijuana should be legalized, I think it should be mandatory-- Bill Hicks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:48 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: You're in the directory the binary is in. You need to run './mprime -m' And run it as user, not root. The first time it'll ask you if you want to connect to the mprime server, say n, it won't ask again, and the menu will be displayed, choose 17. So how can I run it as root ? You can su to root in a teminal. I just tellin you, you don't need to be root, and IMO, I wouldn't run mprime as root. Actually any programs that don't need root, should be run as user. Always. mprime2212 $ ./mprime -m Main Menu 1. Test/Primenet 2. Test/User Information 3. Test/Vacation or Holiday 4. Test/Status 5. Test/Continue 6. Test/Exit 7. Advanced/Test 8. Advanced/Time 9. Advanced/P-1 10. Advanced/ECM 11. Advanced/Priority 12. Advanced/Manual Communication 13. Advanced/Unreserve Exponent 14. Advanced/Quit Gimps 15. Options/CPU 16. Options/Preferences 17. Options/Torture Test 18. Options/Benchmark 19. Help/About 20. Help/About PrimeNet Server Your choice: ~ Your choice: 17 Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer. Please read stress.txt. Hit ^C to end this test. Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length. Test 2, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922943 using 1024K FFT length. | | ...and so on. You can just quit the console it's runnin in. If you use their suggestion, Ctrl+C, then you'll be taken back to the menu and need to choose 6 to exit, or another choice. Let mprime run over night, it uses progressively tougher tests, but none will harm hardware, and the program aborts itself anyhow on hardware errors. You can run it while using your computer, but since mprime is nice'd it will defer to any other processes. So for best results, let it go overnite while you're not using your system. IE, quit or pause other running programs (no need to stop normal background processes that cron runs). Now FWIW, mprime is a precompiled binary. Normally I avoid running other peoples binaries on my system, But IMO mprime is trustworthy.. if run as _user_ ;) Also, IMO, it's suitable for ready mades and laptops. Particularly since it self aborts on hardware errors in oc'd, weak, or marginal systems. No need to monitor temps. It definitely should be run overnite before attempting cpuburn. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Tom Brinkman wrote: You're in the directory the binary is in. You need to run './mprime -m'And run it as user, not root. The first time it'll ask you if you want to connect to the mprime server, say n, it won't ask again, and the menu will be displayed, choose 17. OK, I got mprime to run in root OK, in the end, just had to make some adjustment. Something interesting. mencoder crashes my whole system if I have the bios set to FSB=133 it's maximum, and the standard setting in W2K which works so well with Gordian knot (a windblows equivelant to mencoder). So lets see how the cpu stand up in linux, First FSB=100 === [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /root/Desktop/mprime [EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime]# ls license.txt mprime*readme.txt undoc.txt local.inimprime2212.tar.gz stress.txt whatsnew.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime]# mprime -m snip Your choice: 17 Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer. Please read stress.txt. Hit ^C to end this test. Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length. Test 2, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922943 using 1024K FFT length. temp1: +33°C (limit = +60°C) sensor = thermistor Test 3, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874369 using 1024K FFT length. Test 4, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874367 using 1024K FFT length. Test 5, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825793 using 1024K FFT length. Test 6, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825791 using 1024K FFT length. Test 7, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432577 using 1024K FFT length. snip Test 689, 1000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M186369 using 10K FFT length. Test 690, 1000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M188415 using 10K FFT length. Test 691, 1000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M164865 using 10K FFT length. Test 692, 1000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M172031 using 10K FFT length. Test 693, 1000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M180225 using 10K FFT length. Self-test 10K passed! Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825793 using 896K FFT length. Test 2, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825791 using 896K FFT length. Test 3, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432577 using 896K FFT length. Test 4, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432575 using 896K FFT length. Test 5, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16515073 using 896K FFT length. Test 6, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16515071 using 896K FFT length. Test 7, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M15597569 using 896K FFT length. Test 8, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M15597567 using 896K FFT length. Test 9, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M14942209 using 896K FFT length. Test 10, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M14942207 using 896K FFT length. Test 11, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M14155777 using 896K FFT length. Test 12, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M14155775 using 896K FFT length. Test 13, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M13369345 using 896K FFT length. Test 14, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M13369343 using 896K FFT length. Self-test 896K passed! Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825793 using 896K FFT length. Test 2, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825791 using 896K FFT length. Test 3, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432577 using 896K FFT length. Test 4, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432575 using 896K FFT length. Test 5, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16515073 using 896K FFT length. temp1: +34°C (limit = +60°C)sensor = thermistor mprime has been running over an hour, decided to end it there for the moment, Anyway no apparent problems there. So now for bios reset, FSB=133 === Your choice: 17 Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer. Please read stress.txt. Hit ^C to end this test. Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length. ==Total Lockup== The entire system locks up tight, no keyboard,no mouse, nothing, only left to crash our and reboot with fsck's to partitions and everything. Now one might be thinking that this indicates that there is a faulty CPU(Athlon 1800) but for the fact that W2k and Gordian knot can run my FSB-133 setting and complete the encoding in less time than mencoder and without any stress to the cpu.This does not tend indicate a faulty cpu to my mind. I suspect the linux kernel is not particularly good at running cpu's like mine at it's maximum capacity. Others may disagree, but that is the feeling I have had for some time now. I noticed that there is a windblows version of mprime, it might be interesting if I downloaded it and installed in W2K and run the test again from there. But for now food for thought. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Monday 26 January 2004 01:53 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: mprime has been running over an hour, decided to end it there for the moment, Anyway no apparent problems there. I don't agree, 1 hour is an indication, IME you pass after about 8 hours or more, ie, overnite. So now for bios reset, FSB=133 Does your board also have FSB jumpers? Better boards do, a long with bios BSB settings. === Your choice: 17 Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer. Please read stress.txt. Hit ^C to end this test. Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length. ==Total Lockup== The entire system locks up tight, no keyboard,no mouse, nothing, only left to crash our and reboot with fsck's to partitions and everything. Now one might be thinking that this indicates that there is a faulty CPU(Athlon 1800) More likely motherboard and/or ram, overheating, maybe PSU. Are all those components AMD approved? http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869,00.html but for the fact that W2k and Gordian knot can run my FSB-133 setting and complete the encoding in less time than mencoder and without any stress to the cpu.This does not tend indicate a faulty cpu to my mind. I suspect the linux kernel is not particularly good at running cpu's like mine at it's maximum capacity. Actually, I believe your thinking is 180º off. W2K uses CPU/cache/ram very sloppily. Particularly motherboards, cache, ram, and harddrives. Often marginal systems will function with M$ crap, but fail Linux's greater demands on them. Mandrake makes my XP 3000+ (overclocked to over 3200+, 171Mhz FSB, ram at DDR 419) absolutely *FLY*. Mencoder or Trancode is fast and no problemo. Even for 7+Gig DVD ripping, encoding, or 800MB movie resizing. Same for mprime 17, or cpuburn's 'burnK7'. Many many kernels since 2.21.x, now 2.6.2rc1, with this hardware. Often with low latency, preempt versions. Others may disagree, but that is the feeling I have had for some time now. I noticed that there is a windblows version of mprime, it might be interesting if I downloaded it and installed in W2K and run the test again from there. But for now food for thought. John Try it, there's also a Winsux version of cpuburn. BUT, I suspect you can't use the correct FSB for your Athlon because of a marginal motherboard and/or ram. Could be ram timings in bios if you have them too tight. Try 3-3-3, banking disabled. Who makes the ram, and what are it's specs? Same ? for motherboard, PSU, video card and driver. What kernel parameters? IE, the append= line from lilo.conf. Once again it works in Windows is a very derogatory statement to make about your hardware. Please don't be offended, but Windoze users are the most likely to jump to wrong/worst conclusions, and usually are saddled with the most misconceptions. Even with Linux's sricter demands, most all problems are user hardware software and lastly OS. And I'll repeat, if you can't run mprime 17 overnite, your hardware isn't suitable for Linux use. Guess I need to add, at proper settings and configuration. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:53:46 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now one might be thinking that this indicates that there is a faulty CPU(Athlon 1800) but for the fact that W2k and Gordian knot can run my FSB-133 setting Hmm. Not quite sure. I'd think the bus setting and maybe RAM - mprime is going to work the RAM pretty heavy (so will gcc). mencoder does work ram somewhat, but I would think it fairly sequential in access patterns. Think a bit to what it's doing - grabbing a frame from a media, analyzing the frame, going 2D through the frame looking at it and doing a lot of transforms, conversions, and so forth, and throwing the results into another file. A good portion of the time it's communicating with the disk as well. Unless you're doing something really intensive with mencoder, it's not going to stress the comp nearly as much as mprime will. Gordian knot (I've never used it) might actually not use as much of the CPU on Windows as a similar program would on Linux. and installed in W2K and run the test again from there. But for now food for thought. I got that one for my brother's other CPU, a PIII/700 model that he's been using Windows on for years (now he has also a Pentium 4). The thing failed the test, amazingly enough. But he'll probably never switch to linux :(. I really don't think it's an interaction with the CPU and with Linux. If the bus is running at 100mhz fsb, it's the same cpu when it's run at 133. My guess that it might be a bridge or RAM issue. Have you tried other memory-intensive things - like 'make -j 100' in /usr/src/linux? (That's a joke -- actually don't go that high, unless you have *gobs* of RAM. I have 256 megs, and I did a make -j 25 once. It worked, amazingly enough.) John -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:16:49 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mandrake makes my XP 3000+ (overclocked to over 3200+, 171Mhz FSB, ram at DDR 419) absolutely *FLY*. Mencoder or Trancode is (drool) -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:12:37 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: computer, but since mprime is nice'd it will defer to any other processes. So for best results, let it go overnite while you're How useful is that on a fairly active system? Say one running [EMAIL PROTECTED] and other background tasks? One would think that if mprime isn't getting enough CPU cycles, it's not going to be able to stress the computer as much. Ditto for cpuburn. Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Saturday 24 January 2004 12:31 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: -That said, if the system can't run 'mprime -m', 17 overnite, -without stopping on hardware error, IMO the system hardware is -not stable enough for Linux use. If it can run cpuburn for an -hour its bulletproof. Many Windoze boxes will fail cpuburn, -specially ready mades (Dell, et al, and laptops). Shouldn't even -try it. Listen to what Tom says - we went thru this with my setup just a few months ago. Turned out to be overheating. I couldn't run cpuburn for longer than a couple of minutes without locking up hard. Added some cooling/mods and now it runs it for an hour or more... -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Saturday 24 January 2004 05:56 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 24 January 2004 09:03 am, John Richard Smith wrote: I ran the desktop varient of mprime, I couldn't download the floppy job, which do you use ? John ftp://lettuce.edsc.ulst.ac.uk/mirrors/www.mersenne.org/gimps/m prime2212.tar.gz extract (it creates it's own dir) and run 'mprime-m' choose 17) on the menu. Hmm, No core dump at least, that's pleasing, but, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /root/Desktop/mprime2212 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime2212]# ls license.txt mprime2212.tar.gz readme.txt whatsnew.txt local.iniprime.ini stress.txt worktodo.ini mprime* prime.log undoc.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime2212]# mprime -m bash: mprime: command not found Now that shouldn't happen , according to the readme,as you say Tom, mprime -m is the correct command. How odd. I think I'll sleep on it overnight, maybe someone can point where , if at all, I'm doing something wrong. John You're in the directory the binary is in. You need to run './mprime -m'And run it as user, not root. The first time it'll ask you if you want to connect to the mprime server, say n, it won't ask again, and the menu will be displayed, choose 17. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 23:12:47 + John Richard Smith disseminated the following: big snip I would hereby like to nominate Mr. John Richard Smith for the Starter of the Longest, Most Relevant and Informative, Non-Flame War Threads Award. Sheesh. Well done, man. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Superstition, idolatry, and hypocrisy have ample wages, but truth goes a-begging. -- Martin Luther Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 24 January 2004 05:56 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 24 January 2004 09:03 am, John Richard Smith wrote: I ran the desktop varient of mprime, I couldn't download the floppy job, which do you use ? John ftp://lettuce.edsc.ulst.ac.uk/mirrors/www.mersenne.org/gimps/m prime2212.tar.gz extract (it creates it's own dir) and run 'mprime-m' choose 17) on the menu. Hmm, No core dump at least, that's pleasing, but, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /root/Desktop/mprime2212 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime2212]# ls license.txt mprime2212.tar.gz readme.txt whatsnew.txt local.iniprime.ini stress.txt worktodo.ini mprime* prime.log undoc.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime2212]# mprime -m bash: mprime: command not found Now that shouldn't happen , according to the readme,as you say Tom, mprime -m is the correct command. How odd. I think I'll sleep on it overnight, maybe someone can point where , if at all, I'm doing something wrong. John You're in the directory the binary is in. You need to run './mprime -m'And run it as user, not root. The first time it'll ask you if you want to connect to the mprime server, say n, it won't ask again, and the menu will be displayed, choose 17. So how can I run it as root ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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David E. Fox wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:26:31 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just ran mprime on my machine and got a core dump immediately in the same directory as mprime. Ouch. That might indicate shoddy hardware. Tom can chime in, he's more knowledgeable about this than I am. I ran the desktop varient of mprime, I couldn't download the floppy job, which do you use ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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David E. Fox wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:26:31 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just ran mprime on my machine and got a core dump immediately in the same directory as mprime. Ouch. That might indicate shoddy hardware. Tom can chime in, he's more knowledgeable about this than I am. I ran the desktop varient of mprime, I couldn't download the floppy job, which do you use ? PS. I downloaded something called sprime2212.tar.gz which when unpacked in a directory on it's own, has, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime]# ls -l total 6252 -rw---1 root root 1736704 Jan 23 10:22 core.318 -rw---1 root root 1736704 Jan 23 15:39 core.4531 -rw-r--r--1 500 500 4722 Nov 9 2002 license.txt -rw-r--r--1 root root 132 Jan 23 15:39 local.ini -rwxrwxr-x1 500 500 2270640 Nov 9 2002 mprime* -rw-r--r--1 root root 81 Jan 23 10:21 prime.ini -rw-r--r--1 root root1 Jan 23 15:39 prime.spl -rw-r--r--1 500 500 26018 Nov 9 2002 readme.txt -rw---1 root root 552127 Jan 23 10:09 sprime2212.tar.gz -rw-r--r--1 500 500 6443 Nov 9 2002 stress.txt -rw-r--r--1 500 500 12977 Nov 9 2002 undoc.txt -rw-r--r--1 500 500 26137 Nov 9 2002 whatsnew.txt and I merely ran mprime in it . Did I do something wrong ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Friday 23 January 2004 09:44 pm, David E. Fox wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:26:31 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just ran mprime on my machine and got a core dump immediately in the same directory as mprime. Ouch. That might indicate shoddy hardware. Tom can chime in, he's more knowledgeable about this than I am. John memtest86 should be the first test, but its sort'a lite, will let a lot of hardware problem pass. './mprime -m', and choose the torture test (17) is a better hardware and ram tester. BUT, keep in mind there is no such thing as a software ram test. All tests involve the whole system from the PSU on up. cpuburn's module for the appropriate processor is the acid test (burnBX burnK6 burnK7 burnMMX burnP5 burnP6). Caution tho, you should already have confidence that your hardware is capable, and you need to monitor cpu and chipset temps while 'burn*' is running. It can damage oc'd, weak or marginal systems. That said, if the system can't run 'mprime -m', 17 overnite, without stopping on hardware error, IMO the system hardware is not stable enough for Linux use. If it can run cpuburn for an hour its bulletproof. Many Windoze boxes will fail cpuburn, specially ready mades (Dell, et al, and laptops). Shouldn't even try it. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Saturday 24 January 2004 09:03 am, John Richard Smith wrote: I ran the desktop varient of mprime, I couldn't download the floppy job, which do you use ? John ftp://lettuce.edsc.ulst.ac.uk/mirrors/www.mersenne.org/gimps/mprime2212.tar.gz extract (it creates it's own dir) and run 'mprime-m' choose 17) on the menu. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:03:36 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran the desktop varient of mprime, I couldn't download the floppy job, which do you use ? It looks to be the same one I use, pretty much, except it's newer (mprime235.tar.gz). Shouldn't make too much a diff. John Richard Smith -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 24 January 2004 09:03 am, John Richard Smith wrote: I ran the desktop varient of mprime, I couldn't download the floppy job, which do you use ? John ftp://lettuce.edsc.ulst.ac.uk/mirrors/www.mersenne.org/gimps/mprime2212.tar.gz extract (it creates it's own dir) and run 'mprime-m' choose 17) on the menu. Hmm, No core dump at least, that's pleasing, but, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /root/Desktop/mprime2212 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime2212]# ls license.txt mprime2212.tar.gz readme.txt whatsnew.txt local.iniprime.ini stress.txt worktodo.ini mprime* prime.log undoc.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime2212]# mprime -m bash: mprime: command not found Now that shouldn't happen , according to the readme,as you say Tom, mprime -m is the correct command. How odd. I think I'll sleep on it overnight, maybe someone can point where , if at all, I'm doing something wrong. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime2212]# mprime -m bash: mprime: command not found Probably way off track, but would # ./mprime -m be the problem? Cheers Anton -- Sent by the lovely Mozilla running MDK9.2 on an Athlon2000XP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
David E. Fox wrote: On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:34:40 +1300 anton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure is. I used mencoder for a while but it seems to ask to much from my chip (long story) which promptly overheats and seizes. Which gets me That seems to be a hardware problem. Have you tried mprime and the other diagnostics on your system? mencoder does do a lot of work, but it shouldn't lock your system up. I just ran mprime on my machine and got a core dump immediately in the same directory as mprime. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:26:31 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just ran mprime on my machine and got a core dump immediately in the same directory as mprime. Ouch. That might indicate shoddy hardware. Tom can chime in, he's more knowledgeable about this than I am. John -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:34:40 +1300 anton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure is. I used mencoder for a while but it seems to ask to much from my chip (long story) which promptly overheats and seizes. Which gets me That seems to be a hardware problem. Have you tried mprime and the other diagnostics on your system? mencoder does do a lot of work, but it shouldn't lock your system up. I've had success with both approaches. mencoder (or if you want graphical, there's gmencoder) does produce quality video, although I've only used it for DivX and mpeg4 stuff. DVD:rip is fairly easy to use, but is slower, and it's mostly because there are a dozen or more instances of transcode and other helper things behind the scenes doing the actual work. With DVD:rip (and gmencoder) it's easier to 'size' the resultant output so that you get an AVI that fits precisely on one 80 min CDR. Just using mencoder, that's not all that easy to do. And (for me) I don't yet grok the transcode options -- they seem more daunting than the mencoder ones -- and without doing a lot of looking, it seems mencoder/mplayer is more documented than is transcode. If you experiment with mencoder and come up with a good invocation that works, you might as well make a shell script or an alias out of it since figuring out those options the next time can be just as difficult. Also, I haven't tried doing any VCDs yet. Hell, my older cheapie DVD player won't play them, and my even older one claimed to but was not able to play anything that's on CD-ROM (i.e, not store bought stuff), so VCDs are of little use. Anton -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:37:29 -0800 David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had success with both approaches. mencoder (or if you want graphical, there's gmencoder) does produce quality video, although I've only used it for DivX and mpeg4 stuff. DVD:rip is fairly easy to use, but is slower, and it's mostly because there are a dozen or more instances of transcode and other helper things behind the scenes doing the actual work. With DVD:rip (and gmencoder) it's easier to 'size' the resultant output so that you get an AVI that fits precisely on one 80 min CDR. Just using mencoder, that's not all that easy to do. And (for me) I don't yet grok the transcode options -- they seem more daunting than the mencoder ones -- and without doing a lot of looking, it seems mencoder/mplayer is more documented than is transcode. If you experiment with mencoder and come up with a good invocation that works, you might as well make a shell script or an alias out of it since figuring out those options the next time can be just as difficult. There is a front end for transcode called gtranscode, I've not used it yet but i thought you might like to know about it. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Fri Jan 23 00:06:26 EST 2004 00:06:26 up 2 days, 9:48, 1 user, load average: 0.75, 0.23, 0.13 When you're down and out, lift up your voice and shout, I'M DOWN AND OUT! _ ( Beer is the answer, ) ( Now what was the) ( question ? ) - o ^__^ o (**)\___ (__)\ )\/\ U ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
jason pearl wrote: cdrecord device (n,n,n or filename): 0,X,0 has not format n,n,n and is no file : NOT Ok Ok this above is wrong.. change the x... or it will not find uyour drive.. change it to 0,0,0 :) True,but this is only for the writer software aspect and I don't think it's relevent to my problem as such. One thing that has ocured to me overnight. What installation are you running. Is your transcode install one of the various rpm installs,such as PLF, or are you running the website cvs version ? The reason I ask is that if transcode is like mplayer in regard to cvs versions they don't automatically come with dcss libraries/decryption to decrypt the mpeg2 vob files. I may be lacking something in this direction, don't know, the transcode website isn't very enlightening on that subject, merely references that transcode is a one package install. That may, or may not enclude decryption, I don't know ? But mine is a cvs install. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:39:28 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jason pearl wrote: cdrecord device (n,n,n or filename): 0,X,0 has not format n,n,n and is no file : NOT Ok Ok this above is wrong.. change the x... or it will not find uyour drive.. change it to 0,0,0 :) True,but this is only for the writer software aspect and I don't think it's relevent to my problem as such. One thing that has ocured to me overnight. What installation are you running. Is your transcode install one of the various rpm installs,such as PLF, or are you running the website cvs version ? The reason I ask is that if transcode is like mplayer in regard to cvs versions they don't automatically come with dcss libraries/decryption to decrypt the mpeg2 vob files. I may be lacking something in this direction, don't know, the transcode website isn't very enlightening on that subject, merely references that transcode is a one package install. That may, or may not enclude decryption, I don't know ? But mine is a cvs install. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] no theres a mdk version.. i added the plf to my urpmi and then ran the urpmi dvdrip. it downloaded about 10 packages. then i had to make sure all the little tests said ok. then the program has been running flawlessly. -- jason pearl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ Keep your friends close and your enemies closer-Tupac ++ Kurrupted Visionz Phx, AZregistered linux user #307811 MDK 9.2 LinuxMachine# 193475, 227341 AMD64 Opteron 1.6http://counter.li.org ASUS SK8N uptime: 08:38:07 up 2 days, 18:43, 3 users, load average: 1.27, 1.29, 1.35 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Transcode
jason pearl wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:39:28 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True,but this is only for the writer software aspect and I don't think it's relevent to my problem as such. One thing that has ocured to me overnight. What installation are you running. Is your transcode install one of the various rpm installs,such as PLF, or are you running the website cvs version ? The reason I ask is that if transcode is like mplayer in regard to cvs versions they don't automatically come with dcss libraries/decryption to decrypt the mpeg2 vob files. I may be lacking something in this direction, don't know, the transcode website isn't very enlightening on that subject, merely references that transcode is a one package install. That may, or may not enclude decryption, I don't know ? But mine is a cvs install. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] no theres a mdk version.. i added the plf to my urpmi and then ran the urpmi dvdrip. it downloaded about 10 packages. then i had to make sure all the little tests said ok. then the program has been running flawlessly. Ah, that sounds interesting then. Now that presents a problem for me, not so easy to remove cvs versions, and I think I read somewhere about not running rpm versions together with source code version, because of a bug or conflict. Hmm, I will have to look into that. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:03:02 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jason pearl wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:39:28 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True,but this is only for the writer software aspect and I don't think it's relevent to my problem as such. One thing that has ocured to me overnight. What installation are you running. Is your transcode install one of the various rpm installs,such as PLF, or are you running the website cvs version ? The reason I askis that if transcode is like mplayer in regard to cvs versions theydon't automatically come with dcss libraries/decryption to decrypt thempeg2 vob files. I may be lacking something in this direction, don't know, the transcode website isn't very enlightening on that subject, merely references that transcode is a one package install. That may, or may not enclude decryption, I don't know ? But mine is a cvs install. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] no theres a mdk version.. i added the plf to my urpmi and then ran the urpmi dvdrip. it downloaded about 10 packages. then i had to make sure all the little tests said ok. then the program has been running flawlessly. Ah, that sounds interesting then. Now that presents a problem for me, not so easy to remove cvs versions, and I think I read somewhere about not running rpm versions together with source code version, because of a bug or conflict. Hmm, I will have to look into that. John if it sees a conflict then it shouldnt let it install right? -- jason pearl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ Keep your friends close and your enemies closer-Tupac ++ Kurrupted Visionz Phx, AZregistered linux user #307811 MDK 9.2 LinuxMachine# 193475, 227341 AMD64 Opteron 1.6http://counter.li.org ASUS SK8N uptime: 09:21:36 up 2 days, 19:26, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.33 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Transcode
jason pearl wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:03:02 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jason pearl wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:39:28 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True,but this is only for the writer software aspect and I don't think it's relevent to my problem as such. One thing that has ocured to me overnight. What installation are you running. Is your transcode install one of the various rpm installs,such as PLF, or are you running the website cvs version ? The reason I askis that if transcode is like mplayer in regard to cvs versions theydon't automatically come with dcss libraries/decryption to decrypt thempeg2 vob files. I may be lacking something in this direction, don't know, the transcode website isn't very enlightening on that subject, merely references that transcode is a one package install. That may, or may not enclude decryption, I don't know ? But mine is a cvs install. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] no theres a mdk version.. i added the plf to my urpmi and then ran the urpmi dvdrip. it downloaded about 10 packages. then i had to make sure all the little tests said ok. then the program has been running flawlessly. Ah, that sounds interesting then. Now that presents a problem for me, not so easy to remove cvs versions, and I think I read somewhere about not running rpm versions together with source code version, because of a bug or conflict. Hmm, I will have to look into that. John if it sees a conflict then it shouldnt let it install right? Not always, especially where the installs are not both rpm's. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
jason pearl wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 21:36:24 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ig you guys like gui you can use DVDRip.. i use it and it works great. Looks like a gui for transcode is that correct ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
ig you guys like gui you can use DVDRip.. i use it and it works great. Looks like a gui for transcode is that correct ? Sure is. I used mencoder for a while but it seems to ask to much from my chip (long story) which promptly overheats and seizes. Which gets me round to it... mencoder is heaps faster, and probably better quality than transcode. It is under heavy development also, with transcode only just ticking over. If you want gui though, you won't find anything else that holds a candle to dvd::rip. It kicks butt. Only vidomi is easier to use IMHO, and that is doze only. There are a couple of annoying things that dvd::rip does (or rather doesn't) do, but they are probably things that only I like when ripping, so I wouldn't sweat it. For me there isn't much of a choice but... In short, if you don't have a love affair with the CL, then dvd::rip is you choice. Cheers Anton -- Sent by the lovely Mozilla running MDK9.2 on an Athlon2000XP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
anton wrote: ig you guys like gui you can use DVDRip.. i use it and it works great. Looks like a gui for transcode is that correct ? Sure is. I used mencoder for a while but it seems to ask to much from my chip (long story) which promptly overheats and seizes. Which gets me round to it... mencoder is heaps faster, and probably better quality than transcode. It is under heavy development also, with transcode only just ticking over. If you want gui though, you won't find anything else that holds a candle to dvd::rip. It kicks butt. Only vidomi is easier to use IMHO, and that is doze only. There are a couple of annoying things that dvd::rip does (or rather doesn't) do, but they are probably things that only I like when ripping, so I wouldn't sweat it. For me there isn't much of a choice but... In short, if you don't have a love affair with the CL, then dvd::rip is you choice. Cheers Anton Well, it's not that I've anything against the CL as such but a cursory glance at the manual shows transcode to be nearly 3000 lines long about 60 pages of intricate to learn text, I ain't about to assimulate that in an afternoon. So therefore a gui is welcome to get me started. Incidentally, do you have scsi-emulation on your drives ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
anton wrote: ig you guys like gui you can use DVDRip.. i use it and it works great. Looks like a gui for transcode is that correct ? Sure is. I used mencoder for a while but it seems to ask to much from my chip (long story) which promptly overheats and seizes. Which gets me round to it... mencoder is heaps faster, and probably better quality than transcode. It is under heavy development also, with transcode only just ticking over. If you want gui though, you won't find anything else that holds a candle to dvd::rip. It kicks butt. Only vidomi is easier to use IMHO, and that is doze only. There are a couple of annoying things that dvd::rip does (or rather doesn't) do, but they are probably things that only I like when ripping, so I wouldn't sweat it. For me there isn't much of a choice but... In short, if you don't have a love affair with the CL, then dvd::rip is you choice. Cheers Anton Well, it's not that I've anything against the CL as such but a cursory glance at the manual shows transcode to be nearly 3000 lines long about 60 pages of intricate to learn text, I ain't about to assimulate that in an afternoon. So therefore a gui is welcome to get me started. Incidentally, do you have scsi-emulation on your drives ? John PS. I too have an issue with the processor, I have to turn the FSB setting in bios down from 133 to 100 to stop mencoder crashing everything, and I know for certain I am not the only one. Mencoder is a good programme with a few bugs that do matter. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:46:52 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anton wrote: ig you guys like gui you can use DVDRip.. i use it and it works great. Looks like a gui for transcode is that correct ? Sure is. I used mencoder for a while but it seems to ask to much from my chip (long story) which promptly overheats and seizes. Which gets me round to it... mencoder is heaps faster, and probably better quality than transcode. It is under heavy development also, with transcode only just ticking over. If you want gui though, you won't find anything else that holds a candle to dvd::rip. It kicks butt. Only vidomi is easier to use IMHO, and that is doze only. There are a couple of annoying things that dvd::rip does (or rather doesn't) do, but they are probably things that only I like when ripping, so I wouldn't sweat it. For me there isn't much of a choice but... In short, if you don't have a love affair with the CL, then dvd::rip is you choice. Cheers Anton Well, it's not that I've anything against the CL as such but a cursory glance at the manual shows transcode to be nearly 3000 lines long about 60 pages of intricate to learn text, I ain't about to assimulate that in an afternoon. So therefore a gui is welcome to get me started. Incidentally, do you have scsi-emulation on your drives ? John here is the address to it.. http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/ you can get the mdk version there i think or at the mdk servers.. i also have it on my server ftp://jpearl.org or http://.jpearl.org/pub/ if u have questions about it let me know i like the quality it puts out... it can rip transcode split and burn programs... if scsi emu. is using /dev/scd0 then yes i do i am transcoding a snowboard vid as we speak err type. -- jason pearl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ Keep your friends close and your enemies closer-Tupac ++ Kurrupted Visionz Phx, AZregistered linux user #307811 MDK 9.2 LinuxMachine# 193475, 227341 AMD64 Opteron 1.6http://counter.li.org ASUS SK8N uptime: 04:12:39 up 1 day, 14:17, 4 users, load average: 1.04, 1.58, 1.48 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Sunday 18 January 2004 05:17 am, jason pearl wrote: here is the address to it.. http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/ you can get the mdk version there i think or at the mdk servers.. i also have it on my server ftp://jpearl.org or http://.jpearl.org/pub/ Better to use a Mandrake version. 'urpmi Video-DVDRip' from a PLF source. (Video-DVDRip-0.50.16-1plf) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
cdrecord device (n,n,n or filename): 0,X,0 has not format n,n,n and is no file : NOT Ok Ok this above is wrong.. change the x... or it will not find uyour drive.. change it to 0,0,0 :) -- jason pearl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ Keep your friends close and your enemies closer-Tupac ++ Kurrupted Visionz Phx, AZregistered linux user #307811 MDK 9.2 LinuxMachine# 193475, 227341 AMD64 Opteron 1.6http://counter.li.org ASUS SK8N uptime: 14:20:09 up 2 days, 25 min, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Friday 16 January 2004 04:39 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: ... or if not, you must have it scsi emulated. Why? Programmes need it to be. John Could be, but I suspect that's at the root of your problem. Try transcode again with scsi off. As to your comment about my transcode use. like you I just STW and docs for examples an try 'em (same for mencoder). I've often come across those that seem to conflict. I've also come across some that had typos, were lacking parts, or were just plain wrong. For example, a resize CL for mencoder straight from the mplayer online docs at mplayers site: mencoder input.mpg -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4 -vf scale=640:480-o output.avi The example lacks a space between 640:480 and -o. It also lacks any sound. I edited it to mencoder input.mpg -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4 -vf scale=640:480 -oac mp3lame -o output.avi Which works great. But I had to get the sound part (-oac mp3lame), and where in the CL to put it, from various Google searches. BTW, that resize command works for input formats other than .mpg. It substantially reduces file size while maintaining near original video and sound quality. I've used it to down size (to CDr size) .avi and .wmv formats. It works for .mov, but sound is lost, at least for the ones I've tried. So, I believe you've got a few thing to look at, get rid of SCSI emulation, keep lookin for examples, and encoding often involves 100% cpu (and chipset) usage for many minutes. Make sure your hardware is up to the task. At least you're not so afflicted as me. Rather than ask for help, I just keep fsckin around till I get it to work ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Sat, 2004-01-17 at 13:24, John Richard Smith wrote: It shouldn't make any difference whether I have scsi-emulation or not , it's covered either way, with the /dev/dvd --- link to /dev/scd0 ,the real device, and I need scsi-em for various reasons. I think the next thing to do is to see whether I can get transcode to compile and recognise my /dev/scd0 device instead of looking only for /dev/dvd. I haven't had time to look into that though, either way it shouldn't make any difference if it continues to look for /dev/dvd as long at that link to the real device is in place. John John I noticed you used the -i switch in your examples. I have run transcode here a couple of times without that option and it finds my dvdrom (scd0 too), although it warns that it was not given. -- josenildo marques icq #289971493 homepage http://cyb.ezdir.net registered linux user #341648 * Literature is news that stays news. Ezra Pound Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
Josenildo Marques wrote: On Sat, 2004-01-17 at 13:24, John Richard Smith wrote: It shouldn't make any difference whether I have scsi-emulation or not , it's covered either way, with the /dev/dvd --- link to /dev/scd0 ,the real device, and I need scsi-em for various reasons. I think the next thing to do is to see whether I can get transcode to compile and recognise my /dev/scd0 device instead of looking only for /dev/dvd. I haven't had time to look into that though, either way it shouldn't make any difference if it continues to look for /dev/dvd as long at that link to the real device is in place. John John I noticed you used the -i switch in your examples. I have run transcode here a couple of times without that option and it finds my dvdrom (scd0 too), although it warns that it was not given. [EMAIL PROTECTED] divx]# transcode /dev/dvd/ -x dvd -V -j 16,0 -B 5,0 \ -Y 40,8 -s 4.47 -U my_movie -y xvid -w 1024 transcode v0.6.12 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg [transcode] warning : unused command line parameter detected (16/19) [transcode] warning : argc[16]=/dev/dvd/ (unused) [transcode] warning : argc[17]= -Y (unused) [transcode] warning : argc[18]=40,8 (unused) [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms [transcode] auto-probing source (null) (ok) [transcode] V: import format| unknown (V=dvd|A=null) [transcode] V: import frame | disabled [transcode] critical: invalid top/bottom clip parameter for option -j [EMAIL PROTECTED] divx]# transcode /dev/scd0/ -x dvd -V -j 16,0 -B 5,0 \ -Y 40,8 -s 4.47 -U my_movie -y xvid -w 1024 transcode v0.6.12 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg [transcode] warning : unused command line parameter detected (16/19) [transcode] warning : argc[16]=/dev/scd0/ (unused) [transcode] warning : argc[17]= -Y (unused) [transcode] warning : argc[18]=40,8 (unused) [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms [transcode] auto-probing source (null) (ok) [transcode] V: import format| unknown (V=dvd|A=null) [transcode] V: import frame | disabled [transcode] critical: invalid top/bottom clip parameter for option -j [EMAIL PROTECTED] divx]# Interesting that it seems to suggest that neither of the two device arguements are not used. I must look that up tomorrow. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 21:36:24 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josenildo Marques wrote: On Sat, 2004-01-17 at 13:24, John Richard Smith wrote: It shouldn't make any difference whether I have scsi-emulation or not , it's covered either way, with the /dev/dvd --- link to /dev/scd0 ,the real device, and I need scsi-em for various reasons. I think the next thing to do is to see whether I can get transcode to compile and recognise my /dev/scd0 device instead of looking only for /dev/dvd. I haven't had time to look into that though, either way it shouldn't make any difference if it continues to look for /dev/dvd as long at that link to the real device is in place. John John I noticed you used the -i switch in your examples. I have run transcodehere a couple of times without that option and it finds my dvdrom (scd0too), although it warns that it was not given. [EMAIL PROTECTED] divx]# transcode /dev/dvd/ -x dvd -V -j 16,0 -B 5,0 \ -Y 40,8 -s 4.47 -U my_movie -y xvid -w 1024 transcode v0.6.12 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg[transcode] warning : unused command line parameter detected (16/19)[transcode] warning : argc[16]=/dev/dvd/ (unused) [transcode] warning : argc[17]= -Y (unused) [transcode] warning : argc[18]=40,8 (unused) [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms[transcode] auto-probing source (null) (ok) [transcode] V: import format| unknown (V=dvd|A=null) [transcode] V: import frame | disabled [transcode] critical: invalid top/bottom clip parameter for option -j [EMAIL PROTECTED] divx]# transcode /dev/scd0/ -x dvd -V -j 16,0 -B 5,0 \ -Y 40,8 -s 4.47 -U my_movie -y xvid -w 1024 transcode v0.6.12 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg[transcode] warning : unused command line parameter detected (16/19)[transcode] warning : argc[16]=/dev/scd0/ (unused) [transcode] warning : argc[17]= -Y (unused) [transcode] warning : argc[18]=40,8 (unused) [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms[transcode] auto-probing source (null) (ok) [transcode] V: import format| unknown (V=dvd|A=null) [transcode] V: import frame | disabled [transcode] critical: invalid top/bottom clip parameter for option -j [EMAIL PROTECTED] divx]# Interesting that it seems to suggest that neither of the two device arguements are not used. I must look that up tomorrow. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] ig you guys like gui you can use DVDRip.. i use it and it works great. -- jason pearl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ Keep your friends close and your enemies closer-Tupac ++ Kurrupted Visionz Phx, AZregistered linux user #307811 MDK 9.2 LinuxMachine# 193475, 227341 AMD64 Opteron 1.6http://counter.li.org ASUS SK8N uptime: 16:10:21 up 1 day, 2:15, 3 users, load average: 1.81, 1.85, 1.81 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Thursday 15 January 2004 05:12 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] divx]# transcode -i /dev/dvd/ -x dvd -V -j 16,0 -B 5,0 \ -Y 40,8 -s 4.47 -U my_movie -y xvid -w 1618 transcode v0.6.12 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg [transcode] critical: invalid filename or host /dev/dvd/ so it doesn't like /dev/dvd (just a link to /dev/scd0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] divx]# transcode -i /dev/scd0 -x dvd -V -j 16,0 -B 5,0 \ -Y 40,8 -s 4.47 -U my_movie -y xvid -w 1618 transcode v0.6.12 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg [transcode] warning : unused command line parameter detected (18/19) [transcode] warning : argc[18]=40,8 (unused) (dvd_reader.c) no support for DVD reading configured - exit. (iodump.c) unable to open directory /dev/scd0 [transcode] warning : /usr/local/lib/transcode/import_dvd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (decoder.c) loading audio import module failed [transcode] failed to init import modules [transcode] critical: plug-in initialization failed so it doesn't like /dev/scd0 (which is the true device) I've no previous experience of transcode , haven't the faintest idea what I'm doing, just borrowed an example command line. Anyone know why it hates my /dev/scd0 ? John What does 'll /dev/dvd' say? tom $ ll /dev/dvd lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 30 Jan 14 01:25 /dev/dvd - ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 15 January 2004 05:12 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] divx]# transcode -i /dev/dvd/ -x dvd -V -j 16,0 -B 5,0 \ -Y 40,8 -s 4.47 -U my_movie -y xvid -w 1618 transcode v0.6.12 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg [transcode] critical: invalid filename or host /dev/dvd/ so it doesn't like /dev/dvd (just a link to /dev/scd0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] divx]# transcode -i /dev/scd0 -x dvd -V -j 16,0 -B 5,0 \ -Y 40,8 -s 4.47 -U my_movie -y xvid -w 1618 transcode v0.6.12 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg [transcode] warning : unused command line parameter detected (18/19) [transcode] warning : argc[18]=40,8 (unused) (dvd_reader.c) no support for DVD reading configured - exit. (iodump.c) unable to open directory /dev/scd0 [transcode] warning : /usr/local/lib/transcode/import_dvd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (decoder.c) loading audio import module failed [transcode] failed to init import modules [transcode] critical: plug-in initialization failed so it doesn't like /dev/scd0 (which is the true device) I've no previous experience of transcode , haven't the faintest idea what I'm doing, just borrowed an example command line. Anyone know why it hates my /dev/scd0 ? John What does 'll /dev/dvd' say? tom $ ll /dev/dvd lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 30 Jan 14 01:25 /dev/dvd - ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd Thanks Tom, Didn't know you were a transcode user.anyway, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ll /dev/dvd lr-xr-xr-x1 root root9 Jan 16 12:24 /dev/dvd - /dev/scd0 thats because my true device is /dev/scd0, and /dev/dvd is merely a link to /dev/scd0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ll /dev/dvd lr-xr-xr-x1 root root9 Jan 16 12:24 /dev/dvd - /dev/scd0 hense, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ll /dev/scd0 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 31 Jan 16 12:24 /dev/scd0 - scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
On Friday 16 January 2004 02:28 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Thanks Tom, Didn't know you were a transcode user.anyway, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ll /dev/dvd lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 9 Jan 16 12:24 /dev/dvd - /dev/scd0 thats because my true device is /dev/scd0, and /dev/dvd is merely a link to /dev/scd0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ll /dev/dvd lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 9 Jan 16 12:24 /dev/dvd - /dev/scd0 hense, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ll /dev/scd0 lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 31 Jan 16 12:24 /dev/scd0 - scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd John I meant to ask before, your DVD is a scsi? ... or if not, you must have it scsi emulated. Why? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transcode
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday 16 January 2004 02:28 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Thanks Tom, Didn't know you were a transcode user.anyway, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ll /dev/dvd lr-xr-xr-x1 root root9 Jan 16 12:24 /dev/dvd - /dev/scd0 thats because my true device is /dev/scd0, and /dev/dvd is merely a link to /dev/scd0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ll /dev/dvd lr-xr-xr-x1 root root9 Jan 16 12:24 /dev/dvd - /dev/scd0 hense, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ll /dev/scd0 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 31 Jan 16 12:24 /dev/scd0 - scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd John I meant to ask before, your DVD is a scsi? No ... or if not, you must have it scsi emulated. Why? Programmes need it to be. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
