Re: [newbie-it] CILINDRO
UBER wrote: salve a tutti mi sto orientando verso la versione mandrake di Linux anche perch ho letto su Linux magazine che questa versione ha superato il problema della scrittura del filesystem entro il cilindro 1028 dell'HD ed ha portato lo spazio a 4Gb.Avendo un HD cosi' formattato. -10 gb fat 32 con win Me -5 GB fat 32 -5 GB fat 32 vorrei intallare Linux sull'ultima partizione. Qualcuno puo' dirmi se sto sognando o se son desto? Grazie GianLuigi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Si, il loader (grub)) usato da mandrake riesce ad aggirare questa limitazione del BIOS. In ogni caso, se vuoi usare altre distribuzioni che usano lilo come loader, ci sono tre o quattro trucchi, che trovi nelle FAQ, per aggirare il problema. Inoltre le versioni piu` recenti di Lilo non risentono piu` del problema. Dovresti trovare Mandrake-7.2 allegato al prossimo numero di "LinuxC" che dovrebbe uscire oggi. ciao, Andrea PS-1 Le "versioni di Linux" sono le diverse release del kernel. Mandrake, RedHat, SuSE, ... sono "distribuzioni". PS-2 per favore non postare in formato html su ML e NG.
Re: [newbie-it] zip 250
Francesco wrote: Altro problemino a chi avesse la pazienza di aiutarmi... ho installato uno iomega zip 250 visto correttamente da mandrake 7.2 ,il problema che non riesco a montarlo ,il messaggio questo mount: impossibile trovare /mnt/sda in /etc/fstab o /etc/mtab sono andato a curiosare in /mnt/sda effettivamente non c'! come posso fare? in /etc/fstab c'e` una linea relativa ad ogni dispositivo da montare piu` o meno automaticamente. C'e` qualcosa relativo allo zip? Se manca, leggi prima "man fstab" e poi aggiungi una riga per lo zip ispirandoti a quella del floppy. Magari senza supermount. Tieni presente che, se hai una cartuccia formattata dos, gli zip hanno solo la quarta partizione :0() Quindi il tuo oggetto dovrebbe poter essere montato da root con un mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/dir_esistente. ciao, andrea
Re: [newbie-it] zip 250
Giuliano Zorzi wrote: esiste la directory /mnt/sda ? - Original Message - From: "Francesco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: [newbie-it] zip 250 Altro problemino a chi avesse la pazienza di aiutarmi... ho installato uno iomega zip 250 visto correttamente da mandrake 7.2 ,il problema che non riesco a montarlo ,il messaggio questo mount: impossibile trovare /mnt/sda in /etc/fstab o /etc/mtab sono andato a curiosare in /mnt/sda effettivamente non c'! come posso fare? se come root clicco sull'icona del dispositivo con le altre voci disponibili c' la possibilit di espellere lo zip ,ho provato e magia lo espelle ,bo le propriet del dispositivo sono: /dev/sda punto di montaggio: /mnt/sda filesystem: supermount grazie per l'aiuto :-) francesco non esiste la directory /mnt/sda.. ed a riguardo della risposta di andrea: in /etc/fstab c'e` una linea relativa ad ogni dispositivo da montare piu` o meno automaticamente. C'e` qualcosa relativo allo zip?no! Se manca, leggi prima "man fstab" e poi aggiungi una riga per lo zip ispirandoti a quella del floppy. Magari senza supermount. Tieni presente che, se hai una cartuccia formattata dos, gli zip hanno solo la quarta partizione :0() Quindi il tuo oggetto dovrebbe poter essere montato da root con un mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/dir_esistente. come si fa ad aggiungere una riga in /etc/fstab? e poi montarlo da root con il comando sopra indicato? grazie per la pazienza a chi volesse rispondermi Francesco
Re: R: [newbie-it] Mandrake 7.2 e stampante
Il 00:26, luned 15 gennaio 2001, scrivesti: | Grazie cmq comprala prima tu poi mi sai dire :)! Ciao Epson 400, e funziona da dio. Non so se la trovi in giro ancora, casomai compra il suo modello sucessivo. PS: patcha outlook
[newbie-it] apache
qualc'uno mi sa dire perch il webserver mi visualizza solo all'host http://localhost il doc index shtlm del manuale apache e non qualsiasi altri doc htlm nella sressa dir? piu precisamente mi mostra il codice nel file apache-mime.types la riga sempra ci sia ed : text/htlmhtlm htm e giusta? grazie lobax
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 7.2 e stampante
Giuliano Zorzi wrote: la 740 va benona anche via usb :) giuliano - Original Message - From: "Stefano Pessini" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 7.2 e stampante Non comprare una Epson Stylus Color 300, ...non c' verso... Ciao, Stefano. B, gi che ci sono, chiedo anch'io... :-) Qualcuno ha provato una Epson 680, una HP 930 o 990? Corrado
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 7.2 e stampante
On Sunday, January 14, 2001 at 11:30:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciao a tutti, ho da poco installato sul mio pc la distribuzione Mandrake 7.2 di Linux. In questa distribuzione si trova un pacchetto chiamato CUPS che ha all'interno diversi 'driver' per le diverse stampanti in commercio. Io ho attualmete un Lexmark 2050 a getto di inchiostro che però non riesco a far funzionare sutto linux. Per diversi motivi ho la necessità di cambiare stampante acquistandone una di nuova. Vorrei tanto sapere se qualcuno di voi è riuscito a far funzionare una stampante a getto di inchiostro sotto linux. Quello che voglio dire io è che vorrei acquistare una stampante che funzioni sotto linux. Se qualcuno mi sa dare qualche informazione di questo genere su stampanti Epson o HP ne sarei veramente felice. Grazie a a presto. Io uso una Canon BJC1000 e va da Dio con Linux Mandrake 7.1. A proposito, faccio una domanda se mi consentite. Con Linux MANDRAKE 7.1,il puntatore del mouse e' un quadrato bianco abbastanza grande che lo rende quasi inutilizzabile, come posso risolvere il problema??? scusate la domanda potra' senbrarvi stupida ma non ho molta esperienza in fatto di linux -- TiscaliNet, libero accesso ad Internet. http://www.tiscalinet.it
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 7.2 e stampante
iz3buq wrote: On Sunday, January 14, 2001 at 11:30:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciao a tutti, ho da poco installato sul mio pc la distribuzione Mandrake 7.2 di Linux. In questa distribuzione si trova un pacchetto chiamato CUPS che ha all'interno diversi 'driver' per le diverse stampanti in commercio. Io ho attualmete un Lexmark 2050 a getto di inchiostro che per non riesco a far funzionare sutto linux. Per diversi motivi ho la necessit di cambiare stampante acquistandone una di nuova. Vorrei tanto sapere se qualcuno di voi riuscito a far funzionare una stampante a getto di inchiostro sotto linux. Quello che voglio dire io che vorrei acquistare una stampante che funzioni sotto linux. Se qualcuno mi sa dare qualche informazione di questo genere su stampanti Epson o HP ne sarei veramente felice. Grazie a a presto. Io uso una Canon BJC1000 e va da Dio con Linux Mandrake 7.1. A proposito, faccio una domanda se mi consentite. Con Linux MANDRAKE 7.1,il puntatore del mouse e' un quadrato bianco abbastanza grande che lo rende quasi inutilizzabile, come posso risolvere il problema??? scusate la domanda potra' senbrarvi stupida ma non ho molta esperienza in fatto di linux Solito noto bug... :-) Non ricordo cosa devi fare, di preciso, ma in xfree86 4.0.1 il problema risolto. Fare un upgrade alla 7.2 la cosa pi semplce. Corrado
Re: [newbie] cdrom (unable to read from)
On Sunday 14 January 2001 21:16, you wrote: pls bare with me with my question.. i have 2 cdroms in my box one is a toshiba regular cdrom the other is a plextor 12/10/32 recordable. after boot and checking the hardware config, i get the following configuration the toshiba reads correctly on /dev/hdc the plextors reads as follows device /dev/hdc bus type atapi/ide the third reading is device /dev/scd0 bus type scsi and when i check /mnt i show cdrom and cdrom2 why is cdrom1 skipped?? and when i attempt to use either of these cdroms i always get "input output error and when I attempt rpm pkg and or live update it will not read from either cdrom. any assistance is greatly appreciated even as a senior programmer I am stumped on this on help help help regards mike keener http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Tutorial/CDburner/ Civileme
Re: [newbie] zip drive permissions
On Sunday 14 January 2001 16:16, you wrote: Dear All, I have been trying to straighten out this zip drive permission problem for months now. I did not have this problem with Mandrake 7. I have LM 7.2 and an Atapi IDE internal zip drive that worked fine at first then just started to refuse me (as user) to access the zip drive. I have tried all previous suggestions, read my books, studied the archives, man pages, everything I can think of. I did chmod, chown, nothing is working.I worked with Linuxconf and the /etc/fstab, etc. I used supermount then did not and nothing worked to give me as user access to opening files or placing files into my zip drive. As user I cannot use my zip drive now at all. As root I can use it just fine. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Marcia Send me the output dmesg cat /etc/fstab ls -l /mnt/* ls -l /dev/hd* ls -l /dev/sd* Civileme And do it off list, please.
Re: [newbie]Problem opening photo attachments
On Sunday 14 January 2001 16:19, you wrote: Dear All, Someone sent me some photos in BMP format and I cannot find a way to open them. Is there a way to do this? I have Netscape 4.75 and LM7.2. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Marcia First, save your attachments to your home directory... Make note of the file name. Then click on the menu and select Multimedia-Graphics-SOME of those programs will open your BMP files. Once you have chosen which you want to do it on a regular basis, then open Netscape, edit preferences-Navigator-Applications and select New then point to the program you want. Civileme
[newbie] nexus
anyone here use the nexus font? could you give the fonts.dir and fonts.alias lines for that font? mkfontdir failed to process 03:41pm root@darkstar/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc# /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir: unable to process font ./nex6x10.pcf.gz,skipping /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir: unable to process font ./nox6x10.pcf.gz,skipping 03:51pm root@darkstar/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc# -- "Blast! Was it my turn to bring the marshmallows?" -- Sarge, Quake 3 Arena
[newbie] sys.log
Hi , I installed LM2 and it's up and running connected to the internet with firewall. I was checking the log files and in the /var/log/sys.log file I found this message coming all the time about every 8 seconds. Jan 15 11:09:35 sabrina kernel: Packet log: i_eth0 DENY eth0 PROTO=17 10.110.6.1 7:520 10.110.6.23:520 L=52 S=0x00 I=52624 F=0x T=49 (#1) Jan 15 11:10:00 sabrina CROND[17135]: (root) CMD ( /usr/share/msec/promisc_che ck.sh)Jan 15 11:11:16 sabrina kernel: Packet log: i_eth0 DENY eth0 PROTO=17 10.1 10.6.17:520 10.110.6.23:520 L=52 S=0x00 I=52629 F=0x T=49 (#1) sabrina is the hostname eth0 is the networkcard to the internet Could you tell me what does this message mean?? Is it normal or I misconfigured something...?? Any doc would also be apreciated :-))) Steve
Re: [newbie] What Files must I edit to add a new window manager to the kdm login window
On Monday 15 January 2001 02:37, you wrote: X-UIDL: =Y@!!:E9"!"B;"!Vb="! I've downloaded the latest windowmaker and installed in /usr/local. I used the kde control center - system - login manager to add a new entry to the menu of window manager choices offered at login time. Invoking this menu item doesn't work. (I get the icewm instead -- I think). Under MDK 7.1 I edited the file /etc/X11/window-managers in order to get the menu to actually do something. That file seems not to be present in my current installation of MDK 7.2. Has this information moved to a new file? Also, are there plans to have the kde control center do more than add the menu item (i.e., add the menu item and alter whatever files are necessary to cause the menu to work)? Firstly, what system are you running? With systems through 7.0 you are correct, but after that. 7.1 and 7.2 do not use the kde control center to make menu items, and window managers are defined in /etc/X11/wmsession.d in very simple text files. This is the content of /etc/X11/wmsession.d/03WindowMaker on my system === NAME=WindowMaker ICON=wmaker-wmsession.xpm EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/startwindowmaker DESC=Window manager which emulates the look and feel of the NeXTSTEP (TM) graphical user interface SCRIPT: exec /usr/X11R6/bin/startwindowmaker = In addition, you can download WindowMaker from the Mandrake site as a binary rpm and use Kpackage or rpmdrake or plain old rpm from a terminal window to install it--the menuing and setting into kdm and gdm is (almost) automatic If you have done that, run (as root) # /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime And kdm/gdm will both see the new window manager. Civileme
Re[6]: [newbie] The NVIDIA Kernel Compile
Have no fear. I also have a Voodoo3 3000 PCI and you are correct. You do not need that agp. I had it originally when I compiled and installed my 2.4 kernel from an rpm. But I found out that you can still configure it or make changes to your kernel without having to mess around with any more rpm's or tarhalls. I configured my kernel for total optimization. It only has support for my NIC card, Voodoo3, and SBLive! exclusively. I choose no to all the other hardware types. Since I have no "real" agp bus (technically my motherboard came hardwired with a video inline agp support. I selected "Direct" for my PCI access mode. I disabled all the other "crap" don't I don't have or plan on using on this cpu. I love the improved speed. I actually wrote out all the changes that I made. It took me three and a half hours to document everything while I was configuring my kernel. I was trying to configure my kernel to be able to use dialpad. The free telephony service from dialpad.com. They ! ! have support now for linux. I was trying to configure my kernel to the specs that they had in their FAQ but it appears that the kernel that was used was a real old one. If this one works. I will post my findings to the newbie list. I will run a gauntlet of tests for the next few hours. Wish me luck on the dialpad thing. Cheers -- Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I compiled /ran the new kernel on my test machine and saw the options about agpgart support and support for the 440BX/i810/i815 mobos. Is that what you are refering to here? Didn't see anything about Sunrpc locking fix. Where's/what's that? Doesn't one have to download and install a patch to get the nvidia drivers to work with 2.4.0? I thought I read something about it somewhere, but can't find it now. Have you heard anything about it? Should agpgart support be compiled in or as a module, do you know? My test machine has a pci voodoo3, so I didn't get to test out any of these options. With some other little problems, I'm still nervous about doing it to my pride and joy. At least I know how to do it and retain ability to boot into the old kernel now. (messed that one up the first time!) TIA, -s On Friday 12 January 2001 05:05 pm, you wrote: 2.4.0-ac6 o Sunrpc locking fix () o Made agpgart smarter about i815 (Charles McLachlan) I have a slow connection, so will take time for me to download, but if it will be easier for you, you better check this out. I guess we finally have it ! Onur __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
Sorry to hear the bad news with your compile. Mine was flawless. Slow and steady but flawless, nonetheless. I researched and read while going through my compile. If you could give me an idea of your hardware specs I can probably provide some insight, bro. I don't use PMfirewall but if I did, I would expect it to break. The price to pay for working with static binaries better known as tarballs. That is what RPMs so beautiful, they are dynamic thus flex and readjust mostly to changes as greatly as this. Cheers -- Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had the same problem with the boot up errors about the vfat and I had compiled it in. I can still access my windows partition tho. I had to recompile so as to add the sound support as modules instead of compiled in so sndconfig would work. What's up with the power management? The help says even if you don't choose it, it's installed anyway? Now I'm back to the blank screen after a half hour instead of my screensaver (which I prefer!). How do I get my neato graphical boot up? I miss the happy (well sometimes sad) penguin! (aurora still checked in startup under drakconf). Pmfirewall broke. Need I say more? I didn't use the new ipchains replacement (whatever it was called) during compile. Should I have? No midi supported. I must have missed something when choosing sound modules (though I check everything remotely similiar to my current drivers and modules). What's the cure for the supermount? I thought I had read one back before I tried the new kernel out and now I can't find it. I did choose auto mount in the compile, but I really think that had more to do with nfs. Enough for now. TIA, -s On Friday 12 January 2001 05:57 pm, you wrote: Well, part of my problems is that the SCSI card drivers and sound card drivers are not part of the standard linux-mandrake distribution, so I had to download drivers to work with Mandrake 7.2 out of the box. When I tried to use the source or binaries from the 2.2.17 based drivers, they didn't work under 2.4, so at the least I need to recompile them or download new sources. One thing that I did notice, was that some of the options that I expected to be turned "on" by default were turned "off" this time (The last kernel I compiled was 2.2.16). Things like the VFAT support. make sure you go through whatever configuration tool you use carefully for differences. Thanks, -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Michael, Steve" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel Not to bash the 2.4 upgrade, but it didn't sound like it went all that well for you. I don't think a newbie could have done what you have done, that is, without some serious help. Hopefully the upgrades will get better over time. -Original Message- From: Kevin Tambascio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 9:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel Hi, Have any of your tried the 2.4 kernel yet? I tried to install and compile it last night, and had some success. I was able to reboot into the new kernel, but I had some error messages about loading FAT partitions, turned out I hadn't built in the VFAT into the kernel or module. I couldn't get my USB scanner (EPSON Perfection 610) working right away, I have to figure out what is happening. I was able to get my scanner working sometimes with 2.2.17. My SCSI card needs a new driver (Tekram 315), and I need to d/l a 2.4 based Vortex 1 driver. My Ethernet card was not immediately working. I had to reselect in DrakConf that I needed the Tulip driver. After that, an insmod tulip, ifup eth was all I needed to get it working. Other than those things, KDE came up OK, and nothing else unusual was apparent. Would any other users care to share their experience so far? -Kevin __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
re: [newbie] The NVIDIA Kernel Compile
Special note. Up until I reconfigured my card, I would do a /sbin/lsmod and see that my tdfx was not ever used and the agpgart but now I see my tdfx being used and my computer is so much better for it! I think that could explain the improved speed of my cpu, as well. That is all for now. Cheers -- Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have no fear. I also have a Voodoo3 3000 PCI and you are correct. You do not need that agp. I had it originally when I compiled and installed my 2.4 kernel from an rpm. But I found out that you can still configure it or make changes to your kernel without having to mess around with any more rpm's or tarhalls. I configured my kernel for total optimization. It only has support for my NIC card, Voodoo3, and SBLive! exclusively. I choose no to all the other hardware types. Since I have no "real" agp bus (technically my motherboard came hardwired with a video inline agp support. I selected "Direct" for my PCI access mode. I disabled all the other "crap" don't I don't have or plan on using on this cpu. I love the improved speed. I actually wrote out all the changes that I made. It took me three and a half hours to document everything while I was configuring my kernel. I was trying to configure my kernel to be able to use dialpad. The free telephony service from dialpad.com. They ! ! have support now for linux. I was trying to configure my kernel to the specs that they had in their FAQ but it appears that the kernel that was used was a real old one. If this one works. I will post my findings to the newbie list. I will run a gauntlet of tests for the next few hours. Wish me luck on the dialpad thing. Cheers -- Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I compiled /ran the new kernel on my test machine and saw the options about agpgart support and support for the 440BX/i810/i815 mobos. Is that what you are refering to here? Didn't see anything about Sunrpc locking fix. Where's/what's that? Doesn't one have to download and install a patch to get the nvidia drivers to work with 2.4.0? I thought I read something about it somewhere, but can't find it now. Have you heard anything about it? Should agpgart support be compiled in or as a module, do you know? My test machine has a pci voodoo3, so I didn't get to test out any of these options. With some other little problems, I'm still nervous about doing it to my pride and joy. At least I know how to do it and retain ability to boot into the old kernel now. (messed that one up the first time!) TIA, -s On Friday 12 January 2001 05:05 pm, you wrote: 2.4.0-ac6 o Sunrpc locking fix () o Made agpgart smarter about i815 (Charles McLachlan) I have a slow connection, so will take time for me to download, but if it will be easier for you, you better check this out. I guess we finally have it ! Onur __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
Special note. I forgot to mention that I use Bastille for my firewall. It flexed to my kernel change. I have to make some changes to make an opening for dialpad.com but other than that, it is still there. Cheers -- Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to hear the bad news with your compile. Mine was flawless. Slow and steady but flawless, nonetheless. I researched and read while going through my compile. If you could give me an idea of your hardware specs I can probably provide some insight, bro. I don't use PMfirewall but if I did, I would expect it to break. The price to pay for working with static binaries better known as tarballs. That is what RPMs so beautiful, they are dynamic thus flex and readjust mostly to changes as greatly as this. Cheers -- Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had the same problem with the boot up errors about the vfat and I had compiled it in. I can still access my windows partition tho. I had to recompile so as to add the sound support as modules instead of compiled in so sndconfig would work. What's up with the power management? The help says even if you don't choose it, it's installed anyway? Now I'm back to the blank screen after a half hour instead of my screensaver (which I prefer!). How do I get my neato graphical boot up? I miss the happy (well sometimes sad) penguin! (aurora still checked in startup under drakconf). Pmfirewall broke. Need I say more? I didn't use the new ipchains replacement (whatever it was called) during compile. Should I have? No midi supported. I must have missed something when choosing sound modules (though I check everything remotely similiar to my current drivers and modules). What's the cure for the supermount? I thought I had read one back before I tried the new kernel out and now I can't find it. I did choose auto mount in the compile, but I really think that had more to do with nfs. Enough for now. TIA, -s On Friday 12 January 2001 05:57 pm, you wrote: Well, part of my problems is that the SCSI card drivers and sound card drivers are not part of the standard linux-mandrake distribution, so I had to download drivers to work with Mandrake 7.2 out of the box. When I tried to use the source or binaries from the 2.2.17 based drivers, they didn't work under 2.4, so at the least I need to recompile them or download new sources. One thing that I did notice, was that some of the options that I expected to be turned "on" by default were turned "off" this time (The last kernel I compiled was 2.2.16). Things like the VFAT support. make sure you go through whatever configuration tool you use carefully for differences. Thanks, -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Michael, Steve" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel Not to bash the 2.4 upgrade, but it didn't sound like it went all that well for you. I don't think a newbie could have done what you have done, that is, without some serious help. Hopefully the upgrades will get better over time. -Original Message- From: Kevin Tambascio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 9:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel Hi, Have any of your tried the 2.4 kernel yet? I tried to install and compile it last night, and had some success. I was able to reboot into the new kernel, but I had some error messages about loading FAT partitions, turned out I hadn't built in the VFAT into the kernel or module. I couldn't get my USB scanner (EPSON Perfection 610) working right away, I have to figure out what is happening. I was able to get my scanner working sometimes with 2.2.17. My SCSI card needs a new driver (Tekram 315), and I need to d/l a 2.4 based Vortex 1 driver. My Ethernet card was not immediately working. I had to reselect in DrakConf that I needed the Tulip driver. After that, an insmod tulip, ifup eth was all I needed to get it working. Other than those things, KDE came up OK, and nothing else unusual was apparent. Would any other users care to share their experience so far? -Kevin __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
On Monday 15 January 2001 02:34, you wrote: That proves my point. You know what you're doing, but green newbies don't usually choose expert mode, they click "workstation install" and it fills up their harddrives. Ummm, we did a survey a while back--80% choose expert install and only 20% of that same group know what "rpm" is. With drives getting bigger it's less of an issue, but they still end up with big installs. It's either give a smaller, less-feature-rich choice, or linux will continue to be a geek operating system. I know that a lot of linux users want to keep it that way. JMO, as always. eryl "Simpler" can be read in many ways. As Tood Volz uses it, it means "Free of complications and choices". As we use it, it means, "Easier". Part of the goal is achieved. Ever tried to install Windows? What happens when not all the devices are detected? What happens when you discover you don't have the driver disk for the sound card and the company that made it is out of business? How many times do you have to try to tweak the install of the video drivers and the DVD decoder before they work together? At any time in that process, do you have a feeling that you can actually know what is happening? Most hardware rigs these days you drop in the CD and hit reset and answer a few preference questions with Mandrake. Post-installation of Drivers are for a few manufacturers that haven't got the idea that they wouldn't have to support their drivers if they didn't keep them secret. And I have seen cases where the Win install would detect either of my network cards but not both in combination--so I would leave one out during install... Then try to add it later and fight the windows wizards that kept popping up "NO NO NO-I have to detect that for you!!!" Well, wizard, if you could detect it I wouldn't be trying this(mutters imprecations). Of course it has been a year since I have seen a Win screen for any other purpose than testing its compatibility with linux--perhaps it has gotten easier as well. But for most, I think the perceived "ease" is that it comes preinstalled. So I think we have part of "easier". We are working along several lines to accomplish the rest. Restricting freedom of choice is not one of the options. This doesn't have to mean you get everything installed so you can make a choice... pre-chosen scenarios are a possibility but we need user preference data for that. So anyway Let's get some data. Anyone who wants can write me in the next two weeks with their preferences--their vision of one editor, one word-processor, one mailer, one browser. one window manager, one remote configurator, one local configurator, The ideal system for the raw newbie. DON'T clutter the list with that bandwidth-eating activity, write direct. I'll gather the data and publish the results, and I'll let the figures speak for themselves in regard to statistical significance--to see if the answers are indicative of one or even several "solutions". I will be pretty busy he next two weeks, so don't think your choices weren't delivered. Anyone up for this challenge? Remember, think beginner, then choose the app you would want to use most if you knew little or nothing. And choose an app for everything you do with the computer. Civileme
[newbie] Konqueror javascript works under KDE 2.1 w/7.2 Mandrake
So now I can use it for a web browser :) There were a few glitches in the install, but it all worked. Many thanks to Brian Masney who wrote gFTP that made it easy to get all the files, even recovering from a bunch of disconnects :) Here are the instructions I found on the web at Deja News. I fixed them up a bit. Subject: Re: Still trying to get kde 2.1 beta to go Date: 01/03/2001 Author: sgt_d [EMAIL PROTECTED] i saw some instructions for kde 2.0.1 that seem to work for kde 2.1. i created a directory for the rpms and download all them to it. i logout, then click shutdown - console mode - ok. hit enter once and login as a normal user then... su(use root password) cd to the directory where the rpm's are rpm -F --force --nodeps *.rpm rpm --rebuilddb update-menus -v wait for it to finish... shutdown -r now everything works fine for me then __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Kmenu
On Sunday 14 January 2001 19:34, you wrote: HELP-please !! I need help...in editing the kmenu system... when I click 0n the big "K" on the kpanel... I now see...4 menuitem LINKS to each app mentioned.. I tried re-installing kdebase, menu, and everything else I could think of in RPMsI tried SUing to root...and commanding: update-menus -v and menueditor both in user, and in root mode how can I fix this...? update-menus as root update-menus as user then exit and restart kde -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: Re[6]: [newbie] The NVIDIA Kernel Compile
Oh, sorry, Onur and I were talking about installing drivers for a Nvidia GeForceII GTS (agp) with an i815 mobo. We always got errors and could not get them installed. But now with agpgart support in the kernel for the i815 mobo, we were hoping for success. I wish you luck with the dialpad thing. :) -s On Monday 15 January 2001 10:29 am, you wrote: Have no fear. I also have a Voodoo3 3000 PCI and you are correct. You do not need that agp. I had it originally when I compiled and installed my 2.4 kernel from an rpm. But I found out that you can still configure it or make changes to your kernel without having to mess around with any more rpm's or tarhalls. I configured my kernel for total optimization. It only has support for my NIC card, Voodoo3, and SBLive! exclusively. I choose no to all the other hardware types. Since I have no "real" agp bus (tec nically my motherboard came hardwired with a video inline agp support. I selected "Direct" for my PCI access mode. I disabled all the other "crap" don't I don't have or plan on using on this cpu. I love the improved speed. I actually wrote out all the changes that I made. It took me three and a half hours to document everything while I was configuring my kernel. I was trying to configure my kernel to be able to use dialpad. The free telephony service from dialpad.com. They ! ! have support now for linux. I was trying to configure my kernel to the specs that they had in their FAQ but it appears that the kernel that was used was a real old one. If this one works. I will post my findings to the newbie list. I will run a gauntlet of tests for the next few hours. Wish me luck on the dialpad thing. Cheers -- Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I compiled /ran the new kernel on my test machine and saw the options about agpgart support and support for the 440BX/i810/i815 mobos. Is that what you are refering to here? Didn't see anything about Sunrpc locking fix. Where's/what's that? Doesn't one have to download and install a patch to get the nvidia drivers to work with 2.4.0? I thought I read something about it somewhere, but can't find it now. Have you heard anything about it? Should agpgart support be compiled in or as a module, do you know? My test machine has a pci voodoo3, so I didn't get to test out any of these options. With some other little problems, I'm still nervous about doing it to my pride and joy. At least I know how to do it and retain ability to boot into the old kernel now. (messed that one up the first time!) TIA, -s On Friday 12 January 2001 05:05 pm, you wrote: 2.4.0-ac6 o Sunrpc locking fix () o Made agpgart smarter about i815 (Charles McLachlan) I have a slow connection, so will take time for me to download, but if it will be easier for you, you better check this out. I guess we finally have it ! Onur __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 05:46:07 -0500, Altoine Barker said: Special note. I forgot to mention that I use Bastille for my firewall. It flexed to my kernel change. I have to make some changes to make an opening for dialpad.com but other than that, it is still there. Altione, Are you able to give a shortish comparison between Bastille and other firewalling scripts? Send direct if you wish Cheers John -- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)
Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
On Sunday 14 January 2001 07:42 pm, s wrote: Had the same problem with the boot up errors about the vfat and I had compiled it in. I can still access my windows partition tho. Vfat/dos support hasn't been a default in any of the 2.4's I've compiled, you have to select it during make (x)config. How do I get my neato graphical boot up? I miss the happy (well sometimes sad) penguin! (aurora still checked in startup under drakconf). lilo needs to have the 'vga=xxx' line added to the 2.4 section, then run lilo Pmfirewall broke. Need I say more? I didn't use the new ipchains replacement (whatever it was called) during compile. Should I have? It's called iptables. You can select support for 2.2.x/ipchains during make config. What's the cure for the supermount? I thought I had read one back before I tried the new kernel out and now I can't find it. I did choose auto mount in the compile, but I really think that had more to do with nfs. Dunno, I've tried several 2.4's both ready made and compiled from source. If I manage to get supermount in the kernel, I get a kernel panic on boot. I was thinking it was a problem with ReiserFs compatibility (?) -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] How do I install .tgz files in Mandrake 7.2?
On Sunday 14 January 2001 10:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I find programs in .tgz format, how do I handle installation of such programs in Mandrake 7.2? There's a tutorial here: http://mandrakeuser.org/basics/bsource.html -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] files to open through acrobat by default
Hi I believe this may have been sent in error. Thanks, Trudy At 16:21 14/01/2001 +0100, you wrote: On Sunday 14 January 2001 15:44, you wrote: make a alias in ur .bashrc file with full commmand . --jiten On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Po Kwok wrote: hi there again. i have installed adobe acrobat 4 without a hitch, but i don't know how to get a .pdf file to open through adobe acrobat by default. does anyone know? thanks aston sydney, australia If you are using KDE 2, just open Konqueror as a file manager and find a .pdf file, then right-click on it and select Open With... Go through your menu and select the acrobat entry, tick "remember file association", then click OK. If you are using 7.0 or 7.1 with KDE 1.1.2 then... Open kfm and navigate to /usr/share/applnk/applications right click and select NEW Application Choose an icon, the command is acroread %f The tab about filetypes, put *.pdf;*.PDF; Application name is AcrobatReader If the associations list contains application/x-pdf already or text/pdf or something similar add it to the list of mimetypes for the application Save and now use the up arrow to get to the higher directory and navigate to mimelnk Open it and right-click select new mimelnk. The name shoudl be something like application/x-pdf unless one is already defined. If it is already defined then just point it at AcrobatReader which should now appear in the list of available applications--Otherwise, fill out the blanks and do that linkage and save Civileme
Re: [newbie] Worthless RPM software (EVERYONE PLEASE READ!)
On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:28:47 -0500, Christopher Molnar said: On Sunday 14 January 2001 12:20, David Boles wrote: On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 11:17:39 -0500, Christopher Molnar said: . BIG snip -Chris Can on still donwload source packages, IE filename-X.X.X.mdk.src.rpm, and compile them on a "stock" L-M 7.2. Or have they be changed "inside" to only compile on Cooker type setup? You can try. If they interface with rpm 4 at all they probably have been changed. As always, ask the packager if you have a question (rpm -qi package) will give you the name of the packager. Chris, I only entered this question on the Newbie list because the thread started there. I lurk the Cooker list, read the Expert list, and scan the Newbie list. I am a twenty year computer user and a nine month Linux user. Does that STILL make me a "newbie" smile My first computer was a Sinclair 1000 with whopping 2K of memory. I had to learn their "Token Basic" just to use it. Then to Commodore 64 and Commodore Basic. My first PC was a "clone XT" with no Hard Drive just two 306K floppies. I then started to build my own. I added a 32 MEG Seagate hd that cost almost $400. I upgraded the motherboard to a 286, then 386, then 486, then several 586's to now with cases and hardware also. In that time I went from DOS 3.3 to Windows 3.1, then OS/2 2.1, OS/2 Warp 3, OS/2 Warp 4. When IBM baled on the home user someone showed me Linux. I bought L-M 6.0 Complete and am now up to L-M 7.2.. I love it. The learning is mind expanding. Someone gave me a copy of RedHat 6.1. I tried it and went back to L-M. The people on their help lists mostly wrote nasty replies to questions like this one. I have NEVER found that to be the case here. The most important things that I have learned is how not to panic when I screw something up and then how to fix it. ;-) -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Sendmail command line options
Hi List, I'm curious about something. Would anyone know what the Sendmail command line option would be for bouncing a message back to it's origin? -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds
[newbie] lilo problem
Hi, that's my problem: 1- I want to boot with win2000 or LM 7.2 on my 30 GB disc 2- I installed first win2000 on one partition on a FAT32 file system 3- I installed then LM 7.2 on another partition on a Ext2 file system 4- I want lilo for boot manager 5- When I reboot my machine appears a black screen filled with "SSS" in all the screen. 6- I suppoused that lilo would reemplaze the boot manager of win2000. How can I do what I want? thanks, Emilio
Re: [newbie] -C code=
You need to type ./ before the program name! You must read the following when ls -l your_bin_file, for example: -r-xr-xr-x1 userowner group 4024 Jan 12 09:55 your_bin_file the x flags at left indicate a executable file. If this is a binary file, already compiled and linked, to execute type from the directory where it's located: ./your_bin_file and type ENTER (RETURN), if you don use ./ the system try to find your the name you type as a binary file in $PATH. if chmod +x don't work properly, use: chmod 755 your_bin_file read the flags as: 7 - permissions for the owner to read, write and execute; 5 - permissions to the group to read and execute; 5 - permissions to all to read and execute. If I understand your prpblem, it will solve the problem! Jose On Sunday 14 January 2001 14:06, you wrote: i just downloaded a c program and it said to make it executable 'chmod +x file', and when im going to run it it just says that the file doesnt exist.. helP. Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
RE: [newbie] VMware
i was using the 2.2.17MDK kernel and the latest version of vmware. no matter how many times i ran the vmware-config.pl file it always gave the same error and wouldnt go and further. i have solved the problem now, i updated the kernel to 2.4.0 and all seems well in fact im quite proud of myself, it booted and all :-) pats on back the install of mandrake was from the d/l version with 2cds. and i installed everything, i went thru the menu and selected everything except that graphical boot thing, so i would have imagined that the headers were installed as well anyway thanks for all the help p.s. the 2.4.0 install went a lot smoother than i had imagined. i love linux ;-) -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 January 2001 12:29 To: James Hallam Subject: Re: [newbie] VMware What kernel version do you have? You should be fine if you are using the default Kernel 2.2.17mdk or any recent Mandrake kernel below that. You do not need to recompile your kernel, since vmware-config.pl creates a module. In fact, recompiling may make things worse since you will no longer have a standard kernel. I have installed VMware on Mandrake 7.2 and I constantly use it with no problems at all. Have you installed the "kernel-headers" package? This should have the same version number as your kernel for it to work. On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:19, James Hallam wrote: yep, the version i d/l was about a week ago i really dont want to recompile the kernel, i always seem to braek more things than i fix, i might just wait till VMware bring out a version that will work with mandrake7.2 thanks for all the help -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 January 2001 23:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; James Hallam Subject: Re: [newbie] VMware Do you have the latest version of VMware? Earlier versions will not work in Mandrake 7.2. On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 02:57, James Hallam wrote: hi all, i am trying to get VMware to run on Mandrake 7.2 the install goes ok, but when i run the config script vmware-config.pl it throws back an error about half-way thru the set-up it asks something about header files. i was wondering if anyone came across this prob and if they managed to fix it the error it gives is : ... thanks in advance -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
RE: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
My impression is that the Linux community in general cannot decide whether linux should be seen as a viable desktop alternative to Windows and MAC, or a viable backend alternative to Solaris, or simply as a hobbyist OS. (To me the former is very debatable, the laters are more realistic.) I think that linux will never be a viable desktop for the masses until productivity software is as common as it is for Windows (but then, i guess, linux programmers would have to contend with the "dumb windows user" mentality). I know that a couple of months ago the Linux Journal had a multi-media issue that showed how linux could be used for generating music and movies, and while interesting, it's not even comparable to the multimedia power of the MAC and BeOS. (I can't open any application without XMMS "coughing" on me) To me it seems that despite all linux advances it is still _just_ an inexpensive internet sever (web, mail, news, etc..), and a hobbyist OS for developers. I think a lot of the reason why is the elitism that Linux folks have and distain for the "dumb windows user." What's needed is a real paradigm shift within the community. Yeah, we have token companies like Gnome and Eazel that genuinely care and are compassionate about the computer food-chain, but this isn't enough. (What's up with this in-fighting between KDE and Gnome?) Then again, maybe the fate of linux is never to become a computer for the common user, but rather a development environment for programmers and web developers. We seem very divided on this issue. One last thing, I'm not complaining really, it just that I think there are different priorities that drive linux compared to the other OSs. Consequently, there are opportunity costs and trade-offs. The thing that really bothers me is the elitism. -Original Message- From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux using the expert mode on the install, my package install was 347.2mb. That includes KDE2 with Koffice the network stuuf. Blackbox. Abiword and all the other stuff that is needed. After adding a bunch of updated and stuff from the unsupported dir it whent up to 422.7 mb. Now mandrake make it so easy to add/remove packages that when I need to compile a program from source, I install those packages then and remove them when I am finshed. Mark Hillary Registered Linux User 200755 eryl wrote: john rigby wrote: The 99.99% of people out in the Cyberbog that Linux NEEDS to reach/convert to save us all from Bill, do not need now, in the future, ever, ANY Development Tools. I agree. That's been one of the problems I have with linux. When I hand a linux disk to one of my Windows using friends to try, I tell them that the minimum workstation GUI install will take about 1.5 gigabytes. Everyone gives me the "Huh". Why? Because Windoze 98, with office and a bunch of other programs takes about 600 meg. The distros need something like a "Minimal GUI Install" that includes KDE office, One text editor, one file manager, etc. Everything should be available, but face it--for these newbies it's not necessary. Once they find out that they really like using linux, then they have room to experiment. My Mom does not need 5 different terminals or 6 window managers, and she will never have any use for developmental tools.
Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
Using 2.4.0 that was released on the 5th available from kernel.org. No test number or anything. Actually, all that trouble was on my 'test' machine. I installed 2.4.0 on my 'main' machine last night and all went fine. No errors on start up. PMfirewall still working (apparently had make a bad choice in xconfig with the other one). Sound and modem automagically configured (had to run sndconfig setserial on test machine). Don't know about the apm yet. Been on my machine every since. If I put vga=788 in lilo (as it was previously), my screen goes blank after the .booting kernel ok. But if I change it to vga=normal, its loads in the old fashioned text like manner with the green [ok]s. No biggie there. Can live with it. I must still mount floppies, mount and umount cdroms. Still no biggie really. *But my ide zip doesn't work now. When trying to mount I get an error about it not being a valid block device and unable to open /dev/zip. (Biggie here.)* It will eject tho. Still can't get nvidia drivers loaded. It complains about it being the wrong kernel now! (Previous problems with i815 mobo and agpgart support). Still have to wait some more I guess. Oh well, all in all I'm quite happy with the way it went. Maybe I'll do the little machine just for the fun of it. -s On Monday 15 January 2001 10:35 am, you wrote: Sorry to hear the bad news with your compile. Mine was flawless. Slow and steady but flawless, nonetheless. I researched and read while going through my compile. If you could give me an idea of your hardware specs I can probably provide some insight, bro. I don't use PMfirewall but if I did, I would expect it to break. The price to pay for working with static binaries better known as tarballs. That is what RPMs so beautiful, they are dynamic thus flex and readjust mostly to changes as greatly as this. Cheers -- Al
RE: [newbie] Recruitment Notice
Civilme, I guess this just came to the newbie list or maybe it was meant for me because I didn't receive that message, but if you need an alternate e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you can use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Wilson Waguespack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Recruitment Notice On Friday 05 January 2001 20:28, you wrote: Civilme, I would love to test the new distro,I have a dsl connection.Let me know what else you might require from me I got a bounce when trying to send you the newsletter--here it is again
[newbie] Registered Linux User ?
Dear Group; How does one become a registered Linux User? I'm registered with Mandrake, but I don't think that's what you folks mean when saying that your registered.
Re: [newbie] Hostname problems...
On Monday 15 January 2001 08:24 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: You and Paul both had it right. After changing my hostname with DrakConf - linuxconf, I still needed to update /etc/hosts... Seems fine now. ;-) Maybe I've been doin it wrong for a long time, but I always just edit /etc/sysconfig/network Makes the change system wide and I've never had any problems doin it this way. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
On Monday 15 January 2001 11:44 am, you wrote: On Sunday 14 January 2001 07:42 pm, s wrote: Had the same problem with the boot up errors about the vfat and I had compiled it in. I can still access my windows partition tho. Vfat/dos support hasn't been a default in any of the 2.4's I've compiled, you have to select it during make (x)config. I did choose it. ? (Well, it went fine on my main computer. That was just a practice run on a test machine there.) How do I get my neato graphical boot up? I miss the happy (well sometimes sad) penguin! (aurora still checked in startup under drakconf). lilo needs to have the 'vga=xxx' line added to the 2.4 section, then run lilo If I have that, it won't boot. I have to put vga=normal. No biggie. (Maybe if I try a lower number? It was 788.) Pmfirewall broke. Need I say more? I didn't use the new ipchains replacement (whatever it was called) during compile. Should I have? It's called iptables. You can select support for 2.2.x/ipchains during make config. Yep, found that now. Thanks. It's working now. What's the cure for the supermount? I thought I had read one back before I tried the new kernel out and now I can't find it. I did choose auto mount in the compile, but I really think that had more to do with nfs. Dunno, I've tried several 2.4's both ready made and compiled from source. If I manage to get supermount in the kernel, I get a kernel panic on boot. I was thinking it was a problem with ReiserFs compatibility (?) Don't use that. ? -s
RE: [newbie] -C code=
... If this is a binary file, already compiled and linked, to execute type from the directory where it's located: ./your_bin_file and type ENTER (RETURN), if you don use ./ the system try to find your the name you type as a binary file in $PATH. ... For anyone doing any kind of binary executable or script development this is indeed a good reason for adding "." to your $PATH variable. In most environments where I've worked with Unix, "." was usually the first directory in $PATH so that you could have your own utility or program supercede one that came with the system. If you don't want the latter to happen then put the "." on the end of $PATH. Cheers, Rick
Re: [newbie] smb.conf file.
Thanks Michael! Fabian. On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, -michael- wrote: On Sunday 14 January 2001 18:07, regarding [newbie] smb.conf file., you said: Hi, By mistake I erased some parts of the /etc/smb.conf file. Can anyone can send me the one which comes with samba-2.0.7-19mdk? Thanks a lot, Fabian. # This is the main Samba configuration file. You should read the # smb.conf(5) manual page in order to understand the options listed # here. Samba has a huge number of configurable options (perhaps too # many!) most of which are not shown in this example # # Any line which starts with a ; (semi-colon) or a # (hash) # is a comment and is ignored. In this example we will use a # # for commentry and a ; for parts of the config file that you # may wish to enable # # NOTE: Whenever you modify this file you should run the command "testparm" # to check that you have not many any basic syntactic errors. # #=== Global Settings = [global] # workgroup = NT-Domain-Name or Workgroup-Name workgroup = MDKGROUP # server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field server string = Samba Server %v # This option is important for security. It allows you to restrict # connections to machines which are on your local network. The # following example restricts access to two C class networks and # the "loopback" interface. For more examples of the syntax see # the smb.conf man page ; hosts allow = 192.168.1. 192.168.2. 127. # Enabling internationalization: # you can match a Windows code page with a UNIX character set. # Windows: 437 (US), 737 (GREEK), 850 (Latin1 - Western European), # 852 (Eastern Eu.), 861 (Icelandic), 932 (Cyrillic - Russian), # 936 (Japanese - Shift-JIS), 936 (Simpl. Chinese), 949 (Korean Hangul), # 950 (Trad. Chin.). # UNIX: ISO8859-1 (Western European), ISO8859-2 (Eastern Eu.), # ISO8859-5 (Russian Cyrillic), KOI8-R (Alt-Russ. Cyril.) # This is an example for french users: ; client code page = 850 ; character set = ISO8859-1 # CHANGES TO ENABLE PRINTING ON ALL CUPS PRINTERS IN THE NETWORK # (as cups is now used in linux-mandrake 7.2 by default) # if you want to automatically load your printer list rather # than setting them up individually then you'll need this printcap name = lpstat load printers = yes # It should not be necessary to spell out the print system type unless # yours is non-standard. Currently supported print systems include: # bsd, sysv, plp, lprng, aix, hpux, qnx, cups printing = cups # Uncomment this if you want a guest account, you must add this to /etc/passwd # otherwise the user "nobody" is used ; guest account = pcguest # this tells Samba to use a separate log file for each machine # that connects log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m # Put a capping on the size of the log files (in Kb). max log size = 50 # Security mode. Most people will want user level security. See # security_level.txt for details. security = user # Use password server option only with security = server ; password server = NT-Server-Name # Password Level allows matching of _n_ characters of the password for # all combinations of upper and lower case. ; password level = 8 ; username level = 8 # You may wish to use password encryption. Please read # ENCRYPTION.txt, Win95.txt and WinNT.txt in the Samba documentation. # Do not enable this option unless you have read those documents ; encrypt passwords = yes ; smb passwd file = /etc/smbpasswd # The following are needed to allow password changing from Windows to # update the Linux sytsem password also. # NOTE: Use these with 'encrypt passwords' and 'smb passwd file' above. # NOTE2: You do NOT need these to allow workstations to change only #the encrypted SMB passwords. They allow the Unix password #to be kept in sync with the SMB password. ; unix password sync = Yes ; passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u ; passwd chat = *New*UNIX*password* %n\n *ReType*new*UNIX*password* %n\n *passwd:*all*authentication*tokens*updated*successfully* # Unix users can map to different SMB User names ; username map = /etc/smbusers # Using the following line enables you to customise your configuration # on a per machine basis. The %m gets replaced with the netbios name # of the machine that is connecting ; include = /etc/smb.conf.%m # Most people will find that this option gives better performance. # See speed.txt and the manual pages for details socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 # Configure Samba to use multiple interfaces # If you have multiple network interfaces then you must list them # here. See the man page for details. ; interfaces = 192.168.12.2/24 192.168.13.2/24 # Configure remote browse list synchronisation here # request announcement to, or
Re: [newbie] Registered Linux User ?
On Monday 15 January 2001 03:19 pm, you wrote: Dear Group; How does one become a registered Linux User? I'm registered with Mandrake, but I don't think that's what you folks mean when saying that your registered. Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Hi, go to http://counter.li.org/ you can register there as a user. Just to stand up and be counted. -- Dennis M. Registered Linux user #180842
[newbie] Anybody speak Linux? Error message file growing by the minute!
Hi, I just discovered these files: /dev/fd/1 /dev/fd/2 and they are growing as I type. About 1 byte/second. The error message: WARNING: lstat didn't work on 5 kio (KMimeMagic): ERROR: can't read `/var/log/autologin.log' (Permission denied). keeps getting written over over over over. Anybody know what my problems is and/or how to fix it? (Need system specifics?) TIA, -s
Re: [newbie] Hostname problems...
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday 15 January 2001 08:24 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: You and Paul both had it right. After changing my hostname with DrakConf - linuxconf, I still needed to update /etc/hosts... Seems fine now. ;-) Maybe I've been doin it wrong for a long time, but I always just edit /etc/sysconfig/network Makes the change system wide and I've never had any problems doin it this way. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay Hi Tom. Well, the DrakConf - linuxconf route did that change. However, it did not change /etc/hosts, and until I changed it, I got errors when I started X (KDE) and from a few programs (such as Glitter - the newsreader). Dunno why. PS Note that the X server errors were non-fatal, everything seemed to go on and work as it would normally. In Glitters case however, it refused to work. ;-( -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Registered Linux User ?
On Monday 15 January 2001 16:19, you wrote: Dear Group; How does one become a registered Linux User? I'm registered with Mandrake, but I don't think that's what you folks mean when saying that your registered. Look on the linux-mandrake main page at the right margin second item down--click the link Civileme Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] smb.conf file.
Hi you shoul have the file named smb.conf.default somewhere in your PC On Monday 15 January 2001 17:02, you wrote: Thanks Michael! Fabian. On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, -michael- wrote: On Sunday 14 January 2001 18:07, regarding [newbie] smb.conf file., you said: Hi, By mistake I erased some parts of the /etc/smb.conf file. Can anyone can send me the one which comes with samba-2.0.7-19mdk? Thanks a lot, Fabian. # This is the main Samba configuration file. You should read the # smb.conf(5) manual page in order to understand the options listed # here. Samba has a huge number of configurable options (perhaps too # many!) most of which are not shown in this example # # Any line which starts with a ; (semi-colon) or a # (hash) # is a comment and is ignored. In this example we will use a # # for commentry and a ; for parts of the config file that you # may wish to enable # # NOTE: Whenever you modify this file you should run the command "testparm" # to check that you have not many any basic syntactic errors. # #=== Global Settings = [global] # workgroup = NT-Domain-Name or Workgroup-Name workgroup = MDKGROUP # server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field server string = Samba Server %v # This option is important for security. It allows you to restrict # connections to machines which are on your local network. The # following example restricts access to two C class networks and # the "loopback" interface. For more examples of the syntax see # the smb.conf man page ; hosts allow = 192.168.1. 192.168.2. 127. # Enabling internationalization: # you can match a Windows code page with a UNIX character set. # Windows: 437 (US), 737 (GREEK), 850 (Latin1 - Western European), # 852 (Eastern Eu.), 861 (Icelandic), 932 (Cyrillic - Russian), # 936 (Japanese - Shift-JIS), 936 (Simpl. Chinese), 949 (Korean Hangul), # 950 (Trad. Chin.). # UNIX: ISO8859-1 (Western European), ISO8859-2 (Eastern Eu.), # ISO8859-5 (Russian Cyrillic), KOI8-R (Alt-Russ. Cyril.) # This is an example for french users: ; client code page = 850 ; character set = ISO8859-1 # CHANGES TO ENABLE PRINTING ON ALL CUPS PRINTERS IN THE NETWORK # (as cups is now used in linux-mandrake 7.2 by default) # if you want to automatically load your printer list rather # than setting them up individually then you'll need this printcap name = lpstat load printers = yes # It should not be necessary to spell out the print system type unless # yours is non-standard. Currently supported print systems include: # bsd, sysv, plp, lprng, aix, hpux, qnx, cups printing = cups # Uncomment this if you want a guest account, you must add this to /etc/passwd # otherwise the user "nobody" is used ; guest account = pcguest # this tells Samba to use a separate log file for each machine # that connects log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m # Put a capping on the size of the log files (in Kb). max log size = 50 # Security mode. Most people will want user level security. See # security_level.txt for details. security = user # Use password server option only with security = server ; password server = NT-Server-Name # Password Level allows matching of _n_ characters of the password for # all combinations of upper and lower case. ; password level = 8 ; username level = 8 # You may wish to use password encryption. Please read # ENCRYPTION.txt, Win95.txt and WinNT.txt in the Samba documentation. # Do not enable this option unless you have read those documents ; encrypt passwords = yes ; smb passwd file = /etc/smbpasswd # The following are needed to allow password changing from Windows to # update the Linux sytsem password also. # NOTE: Use these with 'encrypt passwords' and 'smb passwd file' above. # NOTE2: You do NOT need these to allow workstations to change only #the encrypted SMB passwords. They allow the Unix password #to be kept in sync with the SMB password. ; unix password sync = Yes ; passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u ; passwd chat = *New*UNIX*password* %n\n *ReType*new*UNIX*password* %n\n *passwd:*all*authentication*tokens*updated*successfully* # Unix users can map to different SMB User names ; username map = /etc/smbusers # Using the following line enables you to customise your configuration # on a per machine basis. The %m gets replaced with the netbios name # of the machine that is connecting ; include = /etc/smb.conf.%m # Most people will find that this option gives better performance. # See speed.txt and the manual pages for details socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 # Configure Samba to use multiple interfaces # If you have multiple network interfaces then you must list them
[newbie] (g)napster
Has anyone here had any problems trying to connect to Napster and OpenNap servers via Gnapster (the latest version, 1.4.1a, that comes with Ximian/Helix GNOME)? All I get is a connection error. This has persisted over the past few days. I have not tried any other Napster clients yet, I guess I'll do that sometime too... -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
RANTRAVE There are varying degrees, and even types, of Linux elitism. I, for example, believe that while Windos users are dumb, many can be slowly "converted" to the cause. Of course, there will be those who will remain ignorant for quite some time, and I'm sure that as Linux programmes develop they will cater more and more for these people. For those of us who are not stupid, there will be apps for us too. For example, people who don't like the (over-) simplicity of KDE can easily use something more spartan like BlackBox. It is this dynamism that keeps Linux competitive in so many different markets. Want an 8-way system with 64GB of RAM, with lots of eye candy and features? Run KDE with Enlightenment as a window manager. Run OpenOffice and The Gimp as productivity apps. Want an OS and software for a small PDA? Compile your own tiny kernel containing only what you need. Use something like GTK-embedded or QT-embedded for graphics. Run cut-down versions of already-existing desktop apps, like Konqueror-embedded and a small AbiWord. This is an example of how development in one sector of the market can help development in other sectors, something quite unique to Linux (M$ WinCE is a very poor attempt at doing the same thing). Linux programmes may not be as refined as their Windoze or Mac counterparts, but they are very quickly becoming so. Look how rapidly projects like The Gimp, GNOME and KDE have progressed compared to their closed-source competitors. The speed is blindingly fast. The so-called "wars" in the Linux world between supporters of programmes like GNOME and KDE, Vi and Emacs, etc. are only superficial things. Their most important effect is the increased drive to create better products. GNOME and KDE are coming closer together - they shall adopt a unified drag-'n-drop standard, KDE supports GTK themes and the embedding of GTK applets, and GNOME's panel can take KDE panel applets. These are merely examples; there are plenty more. The "paradigm shift" that you speak of is happening, but so slowly that it is barely noticable. A notable example is now Linux-Mandrake is sold in US Wal-Mart stores. People actually buy these, install them using the user-friendly installer, configure them using user-friendly graphical tools, and work on them using user-friendly environments and applications. And this user-friendliness is getting better all the time. If they have a problem, they send an e-mail to a list like [EMAIL PROTECTED], and they are hopefully answered and helped out by one (or several) of us. This scenario is becoming increasingly common. It is this grass-roots support that has kept Linux going for so long, only the base has shifted somewhat. First there were the real geeks, then the power-users and then those who buy Linux off-the-shelf at Wal-Mart. Each group has and will continue to have a considerable amount of input into Linux development, and they all impact each other. The newbies cannot exist without geeks writing the code that make Linux usable for them (or even exist for that matter), and the power users testing that code and making suggestions. The geeks would have little reason to develop the things they do without a user base. Real geeks use a console, not KDE! Do you think the average programmer uses *all* of the features of The Gimp? Of course not; much of the feature set has been coveted by power-users like graphics professionals (some of whom are programmers too). This is the new paradigm. Instead of just a monolithic closed-source company and a bunch of clueless users, we have a whole open-source society consisting of people from all walks of life. /RANTRAVE On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 01:45, Mark Johnson wrote: My impression is that the Linux community in general cannot decide whether linux should be seen as a viable desktop alternative to Windows and MAC, or a viable backend alternative to Solaris, or simply as a hobbyist OS. (To me the former is very debatable, the laters are more realistic.) I think that linux will never be a viable desktop for the masses until productivity software is as common as it is for Windows (but then, i guess, linux programmers would have to contend with the "dumb windows user" mentality). I know that a couple of months ago the Linux Journal had a multi-media issue that showed how linux could be used for generating music and movies, and while interesting, it's not even comparable to the multimedia power of the MAC and BeOS. (I can't open any application without XMMS "coughing" on me) To me it seems that despite all linux advances it is still _just_ an inexpensive internet sever (web, mail, news, etc..), and a hobbyist OS for developers. I think a lot of the reason why is the elitism that Linux folks have and distain for the "dumb windows user." What's needed is a real paradigm shift within the community. Yeah, we have token companies like Gnome and Eazel that genuinely care and are
[newbie] Linux-Mandrake Corporate
I was wondering if anyone out here has set up Linux-Mandrake Corporate Server 1.0? I downloaded it yesterday but I can seem to figure out how to install it? I downloaded 2 ISO files, (inst and ext) inst just seems to be Linux mandrake and ext just some RPM's the website says you have some sort of installer but I cant seem to find it? http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/corposerver.php3 I know this must sound very elementary but im just at a loss. Thanks in advance Sincerely, Dan Belkie hostinghouse.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hostinghouse.com ***We are now giving away free .com domains names!*** _
RE: [newbie] configuring LILO.
Klilo keeps telling me my Hd is too big for it to reconfigure the boot sequence, and although I've edited lilo.conf I still can't get my machine to boot into the win partition by default, lilo seems to be ignoring the edit I've done. Have I missed something? Here's the first bit of lilo.conf: boot = /dev/hda map = /boot/map timeout = 50 prompt message = /boot/message default = linux That last line should read whatever you've name your Windows partition in /etc/fstab. If you've done that, it's still not working, try editing the file again, but this time, as root, run: # /sbin/lilo That, instead of using klilo, should do it. .. and so I thought too. Unfortunatly I'm getting the same error message that I got from lilo about the HDD being too big. Any other ideas?
Re: [newbie] ISA PnP modem won't respond -- FIXED!
Hi again, Thanks to all that replied--my modem is working! I tried John's suggestion first because it was the easiest ;-) namely using ttyS3 instead of ttyS0, and that did the trick! Thanks again--I love this list! Miark - Original Message - From: "Miark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 2:25 AM Subject: [newbie] ISA PnP modem won't respond Hi all, My BIOS is set to non-PnP. My ISA (real) modem can be jumpered to a specific IRQ, or to PnP. It's currently set to PnP, which works fine in Win98. Linux is a different story. Here's what I've done so far: I used pnpdump to get possible settings, and after verifying at /proc/interrupts that it was free, I chose IRQ 4 for /etc/isapnp.conf file. (Incidentally, pnpdump gave me two choices for this particular setting: one in which you choose the io address, and the other where you choose the IRQ. Only the IRQ choice worked.) I then ran "isapnp /etc/iaspnp.conf", and Linux reported that life was good. But when I try to connect to the Internet in KDE, I'm told that the modem "won't respond" to either /dev/ttyS0 or to /dev/modem (which would be the same, thanks to modemtool). If I try ttyS1 or anything else, I'm told that the device is "busy", so it knows something is different about ttyS0. I've been reading and working through this problem for almost 4 hours, and I've about given up. What do I do from here? Miark
Re: [newbie] (g)napster
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Has anyone here had any problems trying to connect to Napster and OpenNap servers via Gnapster (the latest version, 1.4.1a, that comes with Ximian/Helix GNOME)? All I get is a connection error. This has persisted over the past few days. I have not tried any other Napster clients yet, I guess I'll do that sometime too... I use knapster and that works fine. Paul -- Problems that are worth taking on Prove their value by fighting back. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] Scroll wheel not working with Netscape
On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Andrew Iovannisci wrote: I also get some interesting reactions when I click the wheel. ( By click, I mean push down on the wheel like it was a third button) In Kmail, it pastes the last item copied to the clipboard. In Netscape, when I click the wheel, it does a search for whatever was last copied to the clipboard. Is this normal? I think it was Civileme or Srihadar (sorry, I probably butchered your name!) that mentioned something about switching off numlock. That may work in KDE but not in XFCE. I need to run "imwheel -k" for the scrolling to work in Netscape. You can add that to ~/.xinitrc. Beware of this pitfall: if you have run imwheel as root before, it has created some lockfile with root permissions. You first need to find and wipe that, otherwise you get strange warnings and errors when trying to run imwheel as a user. Paul -- Problems that are worth taking on Prove their value by fighting back. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] Netsc-rash?
On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, rob wrote: For some reason, Netscape seems to look for a connection before it fully displays itself.unless you're willing to wait forever. I have this problem when we get hit in the middle of our sessions with a change in lease of our IP from our DSL (pppoe). Opera, on the other hand does not seem to have this problem. I know this because I have to use the browser to enter the setup for our Linksys BEFSR41 router to "disconnect" and then "connect" to get the connection going again... Hi Rob, The weird thing is that I use Netscape since forever, and it has never done so weird before. It just did it this time. I have set the startup page to 'none', so it loads fairly quickly. Must have been something goopy that I did while working on my webpages and checking them through NS. I am going to take a look at Opera too, that one seems to be a neat program also. Thanks for the response! Paul -- Problems that are worth taking on Prove their value by fighting back. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] monitor setup
On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Dave wrote: I just put a new monitor on my system and now the grapical part of linux won't come up. Question is: how do I change the settings from the command line. I have tried Xconfigurator and XFdrake , but both take me to selecting a video card only. You can edit the XF86config (or XF86Config-4) file in /etc/X11 through vi, vi, vim, vi, pico, joe or emacs, and set your default resolution to 640x480 in the screen section. Select the subscreensection with the proper pixels you intend to use and remove all the other resolution options (better: copy the line, comment it out and modify the original line, for easier backout). Paul -- Problems that are worth taking on Prove their value by fighting back. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
[newbie] META - how the list works
For every post I make I get a bounce, but the same post turns up on the list anyway, anyone know why this might be?
[newbie] change video card config
hi ppl ! i would like to change my video card in mandrake 7.1. ive already installed it completly but my monitor is always switching to standby mode, so i think it cant handle the resolution/color depth of the configured video card. Xconfigurator lets me only set the monitor/resolution/color depth and xf86config fails when it should prompt me to choose a video card. so my question : is there any other config utility in mandrake linux that lets me change the video card ?... thx fpr your answers.. --quay
Re: [newbie] -C code=
On Monday 15 January 2001 07:46, you wrote: For anyone doing any kind of binary executable or script development this is indeed a good reason for adding "." to your $PATH variable. In most environments This is very bad advice for security reasons. You should never put '.' in your path - or if you do, at least put it at the end. The reason is basically that if some hacker gets into your system, he can throw in replacements for various standard commands. And, if he hacks into your account, he can put it in your default directory - he might not be able to put it somewhere else because of permissions. If you're doing script development, make a private bin directory off of your $HOME, and put your stuff in there, and add $HOME/bin to the $PATH. Rick -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
[newbie] Changing from Xfree86 3.3.6 to 4.01..
Hi, I have Mandrake 7.2 installed and I selected Xfree86 4.01 to use during installation. I recently changed my resolution and it changed the X Server back to 3.3. Now how do I get back to X 4.01? Any/all help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Re: [newbie] META - how the list works
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Sean Kenny wrote: For every post I make I get a bounce, but the same post turns up on the list anyway, anyone know why this might be? By chance a bounce from a Singapore address? Ends in .sg ? Happens to me too. I 'mailfilter' it out so I don't have to download it. Paul -- Problems that are worth taking on Prove their value by fighting back. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] Juno ISP in Linux?
On Friday 12 January 2001 13:13, you wrote: Sorry to butt in, here, just my 2 cents, Juno, unfortunately like alot of worthless microsoft-advocates, will not pull their Translation: find a real ISP. It's that simple. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
Re: [newbie] monitor setup
At 19:12 15.01.2001 +0100, you wrote: On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Dave wrote: I just put a new monitor on my system and now the grapical part of linux won't come up. Question is: how do I change the settings from the command line. I have tried Xconfigurator and XFdrake , but both take me to selecting a video card only. in my case neither of them does allow me to set my video card.instead both let me choose a monitor is there any other way to select the video card ?..XF86Setup doesnt exist on my system, only xf86config which crashes all the time quay You can edit the XF86config (or XF86Config-4) file in /etc/X11 through vi, vi, vim, vi, pico, joe or emacs, and set your default resolution to 640x480 in the screen section. Select the subscreensection with the proper pixels you intend to use and remove all the other resolution options (better: copy the line, comment it out and modify the original line, for easier backout). Paul -- Problems that are worth taking on Prove their value by fighting back. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] configuring LILO.
make it /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda? Op maandag 15 januari 2001 18:57, schreef u: Klilo keeps telling me my Hd is too big for it to reconfigure the boot sequence, and although I've edited lilo.conf I still can't get my machine to boot into the win partition by default, lilo seems to be ignoring the edit I've done. Have I missed something? Here's the first bit of lilo.conf: boot = /dev/hda map = /boot/map timeout = 50 prompt message = /boot/message default = linux That last line should read whatever you've name your Windows partition in /etc/fstab. If you've done that, it's still not working, try editing the file again, but this time, as root, run: # /sbin/lilo That, instead of using klilo, should do it. .. and so I thought too. Unfortunatly I'm getting the same error message that I got from lilo about the HDD being too big. Any other ideas? -- Luk Vermeylen Putse Baan 84 2040 Antwerpen 4 03/295.00.12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux counter: #186539
[newbie] Software RAID setup question
Please have patients with me as I have never used RAID before. I have an existing partitioned drive with corp server 1.0 installed on it and I want to set up RAID mirroring on another drive that is exactly the same make and model as the source drive. Do I have to partition both drives the same or does theRAID do that? Can I set up RAID without repartioning the source drive? or will it hurt any data on the existing source drive? TIA Steve
Re: [newbie] (g)napster
Im using Knapster, and DLed a couple mp3s earlier today with no problem... peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #19071 On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Has anyone here had any problems trying to connect to Napster and OpenNap servers via Gnapster (the latest version, 1.4.1a, that comes with Ximian/Helix GNOME)? All I get is a connection error. This has persisted over the past few days. I have not tried any other Napster clients yet, I guess I'll do that sometime too... -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Over here at my house Linux IS, right now, a better alternative to windows or Mac. I'm a full time student and I work part time. I cannot afford to buy programs for windows and I surely cannot afford a Mac that would perform on par with my PC (G4). I do everything with linux. I write papers for school, do my taxes, write letters, email, chat, rip encode MP3's * .ogg's, Create images with the GIMP, play Quake3, UT and other games. Come on man what more do you want? I am not a programmer or even a CIS student. I'm just a guy who like to play games, write email, etc and cannot afford to spend thousands of dollars on software. Honestly I am very tired of hearing these arguments. Mandrakes distribution has done nothing but get better for the past year. Here's what I mean by "better" 1. Massive choices in terms of software available on the disks. I like choices. I like choices a little too much probably. I also like not having to download every single extra thing I want one at a time. 2. Installation process is smoother. More devices are recognized and configured during the install process. 3. Stability stability stability need I say more? 4. Mandrake has become a very good distribution for gaming. That makes me very happy. Now if only Valve would let Loki port Half-Life Counter-Strike! 5. GUI's. I use windowmaker so these "KDE!" "GNOME!" arguments look a little silly to me ;-) Windowmaker is better then both of them put together. Enough baiting though ;-) KDE2 is great. It's fast, smooth, stylish and comfortable. Gnome is very nice too. I have put complete linux newbies down in front of BOTH of theose GUI's and had them doing what they need to do after just a few minutes of explanation. 6. support for new devices. I was lucky enough to be able to buy a brand new computer a few months ago. Mandrake went on it without a hitch. USB mouse, current generation processor, brand new chipset, etc. OK, have you ever been involved in an art project? One that involved more then about 5 people? Infighting is perfectly normal in those circumstances. Linux development is NOT primarily a commercial endevour. It is a bunch of individuals doing what they do for their own reasons. Some of them are motivated by commercial concerns some are not. It is good that there is so much conflict over these opposing viewpoints. It makes the overall area of what linux can do/be broader. This is so much better then a top down corporate approach. Has microsoft ever asked you what you thoguht about their products and encouraged you to write a nice long email and mail it to mr. example man? I think not. Dennis and civilme have done that three or four times in the past six months! Mandrake, keep on keeping on. You listen to your users so much it blows my mind. You host great forums. The overall tone of your community is wonderful. The only mailing list I've ever been on that came close to the friendliness and professionalism of your lists was a debian list. Thank you. ok, I'm done now. Abe Mark Johnson wrote: My impression is that the Linux community in general cannot decide whether linux should be seen as a viable desktop alternative to Windows and MAC, or a viable backend alternative to Solaris, or simply as a hobbyist OS. (To me the former is very debatable, the laters are more realistic.) I think that linux will never be a viable desktop for the masses until productivity software is as common as it is for Windows (but then, i guess, linux programmers would have to contend with the "dumb windows user" mentality). I know that a couple of months ago the Linux Journal had a multi-media issue that showed how linux could be used for generating music and movies, and while interesting, it's not even comparable to the multimedia power of the MAC and BeOS. (I can't open any application without XMMS "coughing" on me) To me it seems that despite all linux advances it is still _just_ an inexpensive internet sever (web, mail, news, etc..), and a hobbyist OS for developers. I think a lot of the reason why is the elitism that Linux folks have and distain for the "dumb windows user." What's needed is a real paradigm shift within the community. Yeah, we have token companies like Gnome and Eazel that genuinely care and are compassionate about the computer food-chain, but this isn't enough. (What's up with this in-fighting between KDE and Gnome?) Then again, maybe the fate of linux is never to become a computer for the common user, but rather a development environment for programmers and web developers. We seem very divided on this issue. One last thing, I'm not complaining really, it just that I think there are different priorities that drive linux compared to the other OSs. Consequently, there are opportunity costs and trade-offs. The thing that really bothers me is the elitism. -Original Message- From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:
RE: [newbie] configuring LILO.
make it /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda? .. and being a real newbie, what exactly am I changing to the above ... and how? Op maandag 15 januari 2001 18:57, schreef u: Klilo keeps telling me my Hd is too big for it to reconfigure the boot sequence, and although I've edited lilo.conf I still can't get my machine to boot into the win partition by default, lilo seems to be ignoring the edit I've done. Have I missed something? Here's the first bit of lilo.conf: boot = /dev/hda map = /boot/map timeout = 50 prompt message = /boot/message default = linux That last line should read whatever you've name your Windows partition in /etc/fstab. If you've done that, it's still not working, try editing the file again, but this time, as root, run: # /sbin/lilo That, instead of using klilo, should do it. .. and so I thought too. Unfortunatly I'm getting the same error message that I got from lilo about the HDD being too big. Any other ideas? -- Luk Vermeylen Putse Baan 84 2040 Antwerpen 4 03/295.00.12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux counter: #186539
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Well said Abe. couldn't have said it better. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, abe wrote: Over here at my house Linux IS, right now, a better alternative to windows or Mac. I'm a full time student and I work part time. I cannot afford to buy programs for windows and I surely cannot afford a Mac that would perform on par with my PC (G4). I do everything with linux. I write papers for school, do my taxes, write letters, email, chat, rip encode MP3's * .ogg's, Create images with the GIMP, play Quake3, UT and other games. Come on man what more do you want? I am not a programmer or even a CIS student. I'm just a guy who like to play games, write email, etc and cannot afford to spend thousands of dollars on software. Honestly I am very tired of hearing these arguments. Mandrakes distribution has done nothing but get better for the past year. Here's what I mean by "better" 1. Massive choices in terms of software available on the disks. I like choices. I like choices a little too much probably. I also like not having to download every single extra thing I want one at a time. 2. Installation process is smoother. More devices are recognized and configured during the install process. 3. Stability stability stability need I say more? 4. Mandrake has become a very good distribution for gaming. That makes me very happy. Now if only Valve would let Loki port Half-Life Counter-Strike! 5. GUI's. I use windowmaker so these "KDE!" "GNOME!" arguments look a little silly to me ;-) Windowmaker is better then both of them put together. Enough baiting though ;-) KDE2 is great. It's fast, smooth, stylish and comfortable. Gnome is very nice too. I have put complete linux newbies down in front of BOTH of theose GUI's and had them doing what they need to do after just a few minutes of explanation. 6. support for new devices. I was lucky enough to be able to buy a brand new computer a few months ago. Mandrake went on it without a hitch. USB mouse, current generation processor, brand new chipset, etc. OK, have you ever been involved in an art project? One that involved more then about 5 people? Infighting is perfectly normal in those circumstances. Linux development is NOT primarily a commercial endevour. It is a bunch of individuals doing what they do for their own reasons. Some of them are motivated by commercial concerns some are not. It is good that there is so much conflict over these opposing viewpoints. It makes the overall area of what linux can do/be broader. This is so much better then a top down corporate approach. Has microsoft ever asked you what you thoguht about their products and encouraged you to write a nice long email and mail it to mr. example man? I think not. Dennis and civilme have done that three or four times in the past six months! Mandrake, keep on keeping on. You listen to your users so much it blows my mind. You host great forums. The overall tone of your community is wonderful. The only mailing list I've ever been on that came close to the friendliness and professionalism of your lists was a debian list. Thank you. ok, I'm done now. Abe Mark Johnson wrote: My impression is that the Linux community in general cannot decide whether linux should be seen as a viable desktop alternative to Windows and MAC, or a viable backend alternative to Solaris, or simply as a hobbyist OS. (To me the former is very debatable, the laters are more realistic.) I think that linux will never be a viable desktop for the masses until productivity software is as common as it is for Windows (but then, i guess, linux programmers would have to contend with the "dumb windows user" mentality). I know that a couple of months ago the Linux Journal had a multi-media issue that showed how linux could be used for generating music and movies, and while interesting, it's not even comparable to the multimedia power of the MAC and BeOS. (I can't open any application without XMMS "coughing" on me) To me it seems that despite all linux advances it is still _just_ an inexpensive internet sever (web, mail, news, etc..), and a hobbyist OS for developers. I think a lot of the reason why is the elitism that Linux folks have and distain for the "dumb windows user." What's needed is a real paradigm shift within the community. Yeah, we have token companies like Gnome and Eazel that genuinely care and are compassionate about the computer food-chain, but this isn't enough. (What's up with this in-fighting between KDE and Gnome?) Then again, maybe the fate of linux is never to become a computer for the common user, but rather a development environment for programmers and web developers. We seem very divided on this issue.
[newbie] Burning CD - not from ISO
Greetings! I am new to this list, and to Mandrake/Linux as well. My first question (even before installing): what files do I need to download from ftp from the 'RPMS' directory for CD 1? (the directory is 1,08 GB all together - too much for a single CD). How can I make the disc bootable? Farewell! Ardavan
[newbie] Diald with PAP
Hello Linux Friends Did any one know how to point diald connection to PAP-Secrets ? My PAP-Secerts is working fine with manualy connect to my ISP , but not with my diald utilities Can someone help me ... how to make it (Diald) with PAP-Secerts Best Regards, SKLIM
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake Corporate
Dear Dan; Go into your BIOS, and reset it so that you're PC is booting from the CDRom Drive first. Put the 1st CD(inst) in the drive, and save your BIOS changes. Exit the BIOS, reboot will occur. The PC will boot from the CD and that's it. Follow the prompts, and do your install. Enjoy ! Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: "Dan Belkie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:35 PM Subject: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake Corporate I was wondering if anyone out here has set up Linux-Mandrake Corporate Server 1.0? I downloaded it yesterday but I can seem to figure out how to install it? I downloaded 2 ISO files, (inst and ext) inst just seems to be Linux mandrake and ext just some RPM's the website says you have some sort of installer but I cant seem to find it? http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/corposerver.php3 I know this must sound very elementary but im just at a loss. Thanks in advance Sincerely, Dan Belkie hostinghouse.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hostinghouse.com ***We are now giving away free .com domains names!*** _
[newbie] urpmi
Has anyone used "urpmi"? I read the man page and it seems to be very similar to the apt program used in Debian for package mgt. Is their a sources list that can be used or maybe just enter an ftp site and issue a command to install. When using apt in Debian you specify source addresse in a source file and comment in and out based upon where you want apt to look for the requested package and apt takes over and installs everything to include dependencies. This would really be awesome if that is the case and it seems to be. -- John Wheat
[newbie] KDE 2.1 CVS 20010115 RPM's Available
Hello, I have just uploaded RPM's for KDE 2.1 CVS as of 2001-01-15. These RPM's are available on any Mandrake-devel (cooker) mirror site. You can find a list of the mirror sites on: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/cooker/. These RPM's are for Mandrake 7.2 and Mandrake 7.1 users. The files are in the Mandrake-devel/unsupported/i586/kde2.1 directory on these mirrors. The files where placed on the master internal site at 20:11 EST (-05:00) so they may take a while to distribute. These will be the last Mandrake 7.2 Update RPM's prior to Beta 2 (I'll be out of town). Please report packaging bugs to me. All code and functionality related bugs should go to: http://bugs.kde.org, or choose Help-- Report Bugs from any KDE 2 application. These updates are not supported by Mandrake, which is why they are in the unsupported directories. Also, New England Business Services, LLC, at http://www.nebsllc.com , is making a limited number of KDE 2.1 update CD's available to U.S. customers. Advance ordering is required and the profit from these CD's helps defray the expenses of creating and distributing updates. -Chris
Re: [newbie] META - how the list works
My assumption is that it is the newest variation on the multiple-posting thing, and just part of the charm of this list. (Oh, hell, here comes another one...) cmg Paul wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Sean Kenny wrote: For every post I make I get a bounce, but the same post turns up on the list anyway, anyone know why this might be? By chance a bounce from a Singapore address? Ends in .sg ? Happens to me too. I 'mailfilter' it out so I don't have to download it. Paul -- Problems that are worth taking on Prove their value by fighting back. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake Corporate
Hey Dan! Thanks for getting back to me. This is the problem.. I did do this and it goes and installs but its just the regular Linux 7.1?? Do you think I coul have downloaded the wrong ISO? Sincerely, Dan Belkie hostinghouse.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hostinghouse.com ***We are now giving away free .com domains names!*** _ - Original Message - From: "Dan LaBine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake Corporate Dear Dan; Go into your BIOS, and reset it so that you're PC is booting from the CDRom Drive first. Put the 1st CD(inst) in the drive, and save your BIOS changes. Exit the BIOS, reboot will occur. The PC will boot from the CD and that's it. Follow the prompts, and do your install. Enjoy ! Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: "Dan Belkie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:35 PM Subject: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake Corporate I was wondering if anyone out here has set up Linux-Mandrake Corporate Server 1.0? I downloaded it yesterday but I can seem to figure out how to install it? I downloaded 2 ISO files, (inst and ext) inst just seems to be Linux mandrake and ext just some RPM's the website says you have some sort of installer but I cant seem to find it? http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/corposerver.php3 I know this must sound very elementary but im just at a loss. Thanks in advance Sincerely, Dan Belkie hostinghouse.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hostinghouse.com ***We are now giving away free .com domains names!*** _
Re: [Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux]
abe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over here at my house Linux IS, right now, a better alternative to windows or Mac. I'm a full time student and I work part time. I cannot afford to buy programs for windows and I surely cannot afford a Mac that would perform on par with my PC (G4). I do everything with linux. I write papers for school, do my taxes, write letters, email, chat, rip encode MP3's * .ogg's, Create images with the GIMP, play Quake3, UT and other games. Come on man what more do you want? Big Snip for sake of saving bandwith === Abe, I agree with virtualy all of your objections to the original argument about Linux NOT being ready for the desktop. I've been using Linux exclusively for about 20 months now and my usage is similar to yours [well, at 48 years old, I don't do much ripping of MP3's - though my teen age sons do, ON LINUX - and I don't chat or play games beyond the occasional hand of Free Cell - though, again, the sons.]. But I would like to add one more point: Many linux programs have become amazingly successful at handling M$ Office and other progams files. I have students from both high school and colleges e-mail me Word attachments (essays, papers and such) all the time. I open them in StarOffice 5.x, edit in red, save as Word 97, e-mail the attachment back, w/o a single problem! I was provided a copy of my HS budget by central office, 55 pages long, in Excel. StarOffice opened it without so much as a burp. I did extensive editing, printed it out, saved it as both a SO.sdw file and as an .xcl file (for central office purposes), again w/NO problem what-so-ever. My point being that the argument that linux can not be used in a M$ world is also bogus (or FUD). AFAIAC, linux is quite ready for MY desktop. [BTW, I use Blackbox as my environment, but very much like the ability to utilize both KDE and Gnome apps (e.g., kppp, kbiff, Gnome-cal, and others). Just my $.02, Mike "Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing and dreadful idolatry took place there!" Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
[newbie] urpmi
Has anyone used "urpmi"? I read the man page and it seems to be very similar to the apt program used in Debian for package mgt. Is their a sources list that can be used or maybe just enter an ftp site and issue a command to install. When using apt in Debian you specify source addresse in a source file and comment in and out based upon where you want apt to look for the requested package and apt takes over and installs everything to include dependencies. This would really be awesome if that --- -- John Wheat
Re: [newbie] Scroll wheel not working with Netscape
As I said (indirectly) before (yes, it was me!!!), turning off numlock only enables scrolling in Netscape if you use XFree86 4.x. For XFree86 3.x you need to use imwheel. This has worked in both KDE and GNOME for me. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 05:08, Paul wrote: On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Andrew Iovannisci wrote: I also get some interesting reactions when I click the wheel. ( By click, I mean push down on the wheel like it was a third button) In Kmail, it pastes the last item copied to the clipboard. In Netscape, when I click the wheel, it does a search for whatever was last copied to the clipboard. Is this normal? I think it was Civileme or Srihadar (sorry, I probably butchered your name!) that mentioned something about switching off numlock. That may work in KDE but not in XFCE. I need to run "imwheel -k" for the scrolling to work in Netscape. You can add that to ~/.xinitrc. Beware of this pitfall: if you have run imwheel as root before, it has created some lockfile with root permissions. You first need to find and wipe that, otherwise you get strange warnings and errors when trying to run imwheel as a user. Paul -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
Re: [newbie] Juno ISP in Linux?
Thank you---thankyaverrimuch!!! You said it. On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, David E. Fox wrote: On Friday 12 January 2001 13:13, you wrote: Sorry to butt in, here, just my 2 cents, Juno, unfortunately like alot of worthless microsoft-advocates, will not pull their Translation: find a real ISP. It's that simple. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Yep, thats why I got it, and best of all, its free! (The OS itself) well even better it don't crash and jam up your whole machine. hehe Linux riules On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, abe wrote: Honestly I am very tired of hearing these arguments. Mandrakes distribution has done nothing but get better for the past year. Here's what I mean by "better" 1. Massive choices
RE: [newbie] -C code=
Even better advice. Most of my experience was pre-heavy-hacking era (say 5 years ago) and was inside decent firewalls. I agree with your analysis and will take it to heart when I get Linux up on DSL here at home. Cheers and thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David E. Fox Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] -C code= On Monday 15 January 2001 07:46, you wrote: For anyone doing any kind of binary executable or script development this is indeed a good reason for adding "." to your $PATH variable. In most environments This is very bad advice for security reasons. You should never put '.' in your path - or if you do, at least put it at the end. The reason is basically that if some hacker gets into your system, he can throw in replacements for various standard commands. And, if he hacks into your account, he can put it in your default directory - he might not be able to put it somewhere else because of permissions. If you're doing script development, make a private bin directory off of your $HOME, and put your stuff in there, and add $HOME/bin to the $PATH. Rick -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
[newbie] can't switch consoles, why?
Hi all, I'm new to mandrake distrib but not to FreeBSD and Redhat. One thing I haven't been able to figure out in Mandrake 7.2 is why can't I switch consoles using the norml ctrl alt f1-f7? I'm not in xwindows when attemtping to do this... When I try nothing happens...I don't know where this is setup, so I don't know how to troubleshoot it... I've done multiple installs (for various reasons) and it's always the same.. can anyone help? thanks in advance :) Ty
[newbie] Mandrake for Alpha processor
I soon will have back in my possession an Alpha server 800/400 with 64meg and 6gig of space. This USED to be an NT (phewy) server that I would like to get back into use as a more useful linux server where I work. what I would like to know is if anyone has any experience in installing on this system. I tried to install northern linux from hard-data on this beast and it was a dismal failure from the get-go. What kind of problems am I going to run into and more importantly will someone here have some answers?? I understand from trying this before that this particular alpha is kind of an oddball of alphas.. comments?? -- "It's nice to be important but it is more important to be nice." -Ziggy
Re: [newbie] monitor setup
in my case neither of them does allow me to set my video card.instead both let me choose a monitor is there any other way to select the video card ?..XF86Setup doesnt exist on my system, only xf86config which crashes all the time quay Quay, Have you tried to do it using XFdrake as I suggested in an earlier post? That utility should take care of it for you just fine. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds
[newbie] Intalation Problem
Hi, this message is in Spanish because I don't speak English verry well, if you don't have some one who speak spanish, just tell me and I'll try my best with my english. Hola, Soy un usuario nuevo de Linux y acabo de comprar Linux Mandrake 7.2. Al llegar a casa, no pude esperar a instalarlo y empeze la instalacion. Todo iba bien, pero al llegar a la parte de las particiones, algo salio mal. No paso nada malo, solo no quiere hacer las particiones (quiero hacer las particiones de manera que Linux y Windows convivan en el mismo disco duro). Cuando prosegui, seleccione la opcion de hacer las particiones sin borrar el disco duro y alli fue cuando salio el siguiente mensage. Fallo el particionado: El cambiador de tamao FAT no puede manejar su particion, Ocurrio el error siguiente: can't locate object method "new" via pacage "resize_fat::main" at /usr/bin/perl/instal/instal-interactive.pm line 108 Como datos adicionales --Cuando vi que eso fallo, fui a la opccion de avanzados, pero temi hacer algo mal ya que soy un nuevo usuario y regrese al menu de particiones otravez. Cuando seleccione la opcion de particiones sin borrar dico duro (despues de haber ido a la opcion de avanzados), la computadora empezo a medir los limites de el OS de Windows y despues salio un mensage que decia "Advertencia!" y algo de que tenia que correr el ScanDisck antes de empezar a particionar y la instalacion se trabo aun despues de que corri Scan Disck. --Tengo en mi poder el Quick Restore de mi computadora. --Mi disco duro (C:) tiene una capacidad de 25.2 Gb Gracias por leer mi carta, espero puedan resolver mi problema. _ Do You Yahoo!? Obtenga su direccin de correo-e gratis @yahoo.com en http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] META - how the list works
On Monday 15 January 2001 08:26 pm, you wrote: My assumption is that it is the newest variation on the multiple-posting thing, and just part of the charm of this list. (Oh, hell, here comes another one...) cmg :) I've taken to bouncing them back to where they're coming from. I fugure in time they'll get tired of getting all those messages and clean up what ever got dirty and started the problem in the first place. where ever that is... -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds
Re: [newbie] Burning CD - not from ISO
On Monday 15 January 2001 07:00 pm, you wrote: Greetings! I am new to this list, and to Mandrake/Linux as well. My first question (even before installing): what files do I need to download from ftp from the 'RPMS' directory for CD 1? (the directory is 1,08 GB all together - too much for a single CD). How can I make the disc bootable? Farewell! Ardavan Ardavan, The best thing you can do is order the CD's from http://www.cheapbytes.com If that isn't an option for you then you can download the ISO files from anyone of the many mirrors listed at the Linux Mandrake site, then burn them onto some Cd's. Grabbing them from an FTP server is a very time consuming process and something that I personally haven't done for quite some time. Something I definatetly wouldn't want to do again since its a very tedious task verifying every directory and file to make sure you've got everything. You could also very likely get someone here on the list to burn you a few CD's for just a few bucks. There had been a fella on here who was doing that a while back. Don't know if he's still here or not. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds
Re: [Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux]
argument that linux can not be used in a M$ world is also bogus (or FUD). I can't help it any longer...what in the world does FUD stand for? -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Alpha processor
Carl Lafferty wrote: I soon will have back in my possession an Alpha server 800/400 with 64meg and 6gig of space. This USED to be an NT (phewy) server that I would like to get back into use as a more useful linux server where I work. what I would like to know is if anyone has any experience in installing on this system. I tried to install northern linux from hard-data on this beast and it was a dismal failure from the get-go. What kind of problems am I going to run into and more importantly will someone here have some answers?? I understand from trying this before that this particular alpha is kind of an oddball of alphas.. comments?? -- "It's nice to be important but it is more important to be nice." -Ziggy as much as i hate to admit it linux is getting to stand on its own but for your alpha server i would really recommend either freeBSD or netBSD "unix type OS" either one is really stable and can't go wrong.. good luck mike keener wb6iik
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Mark Johnson wrote: My impression is that the Linux community in general cannot decide whether linux should be seen as a viable desktop alternative to Windows and MAC, or a viable backend alternative to Solaris, or simply as a hobbyist OS. (To me the former is very debatable, the laters are more realistic.) I think that linux will never be a viable desktop for the masses until productivity software is as common as it is for Windows (but then, i guess, linux programmers would have to contend with the "dumb windows user" mentality). I know that a couple of months ago the Linux Journal had a multi-media issue that showed how linux could be used for generating music and movies, and while interesting, it's not even comparable to the multimedia power of the MAC and BeOS. (I can't open any application without XMMS "coughing" on me) To me it seems that despite all linux advances it is still _just_ an inexpensive internet sever (web, mail, news, etc..), and a hobbyist OS for developers. I think a lot of the reason why is the elitism that Linux folks have and distain for the "dumb windows user." What's needed is a real paradigm shift within the community. Yeah, we have token companies like Gnome and Eazel that genuinely care and are compassionate about the computer food-chain, but this isn't enough. (What's up with this in-fighting between KDE and Gnome?) Then again, maybe the fate of linux is never to become a computer for the common user, but rather a development environment for programmers and web developers. We seem very divided on this issue. One last thing, I'm not complaining really, it just that I think there are different priorities that drive linux compared to the other OSs. Consequently, there are opportunity costs and trade-offs. The thing that really bothers me is the elitism. -Original Message- From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux using the expert mode on the install, my package install was 347.2mb. That includes KDE2 with Koffice the network stuuf. Blackbox. Abiword and all the other stuff that is needed. After adding a bunch of updated and stuff from the unsupported dir it whent up to 422.7 mb. Now mandrake make it so easy to add/remove packages that when I need to compile a program from source, I install those packages then and remove them when I am finshed. Mark Hillary Registered Linux User 200755 eryl wrote: john rigby wrote: The 99.99% of people out in the Cyberbog that Linux NEEDS to reach/convert to save us all from Bill, do not need now, in the future, ever, ANY Development Tools. I agree. That's been one of the problems I have with linux. When I hand a linux disk to one of my Windows using friends to try, I tell them that the minimum workstation GUI install will take about 1.5 gigabytes. Everyone gives me the "Huh". Why? Because Windoze 98, with office and a bunch of other programs takes about 600 meg. The distros need something like a "Minimal GUI Install" that includes KDE office, One text editor, one file manager, etc. Everything should be available, but face it--for these newbies it's not necessary. Once they find out that they really like using linux, then they have room to experiment. My Mom does not need 5 different terminals or 6 window managers, and she will never have any use for developmental tools. Just another 2 cents from a newbie; I use Linux because IT WORKS! The first PC I ever used was plain Vanilla DOS. Back then we carved our own windows and climbed in and out of them the hard way, with a little help from our friends. The Linux community seems to have that same spirit. I have been using Windows for a few years, but have never liked it. LM was the answer to my problem. I think that LM could be an alternative to Windows, not by making it more "user friendly," but by getting more productivity software to run efficiently on it, without having to be a programmer to install it. That doesn't mean to make it "for idiots." Can't we find a happy medium? User friendly, to me just means "limited." I would like to see LM become less like MS, not more! LM 7.2 was a big dissapointment to me. I went back to 7.1, which is the best OS I have ever used. I hope that the next distribution will have all the bugs out of it, because 7.2 would have been really nice, if I could get it to run properly. As it stands, it was just a tease. ShalomOut Chal
[newbie] Halt Command
Hi! Running LM 7.2. The system reboots ok but when I issue the 'halt' command it hangs up and errors/segmentation faults appear. What is causing this? Thanks!
Re: [newbie] pppd Not Working
Try using port ttyS3or you can just make the symbolic link yourself. After that /dev/modem should work. At 05:32 PM 1/16/2001 +1300, you wrote: Hi! Just installed LM 7.2 but can't get the pppd working. How do I set it up? Under Windows 2000 the modem is in COM4. In LM 7.2 it is /dev/modem. Is this right? Thanks for your help!
Re: [newbie] Halt Command
AL wrote: Hi! Running LM 7.2. The system reboots ok but when I issue the 'halt' command it hangs up and errors/segmentation faults appear. What is causing this? Thanks! Hi. Sometimes this is the motherboard/chipset combination. I had something like this happen (as have others). What you have to do, as su/root is: use vi, kedit, (fill in word processor here) Go in to /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and edit the file "halt" at the very bottom line, remove the "-p", so that the line ends up looking like this: eval $command -i -d That should do it. You'll wind up with text at halt or shutdown that says something like "the system is halted". Then it will be safe to power down your machine... Hope this helps! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux]
On Monday 15 January 2001 19:31, regarding Re: [Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux], you said: On 15 Jan 2001 23:25:49 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: argument that linux can not be used in a M$ world is also bogus (or FUD). I can't help it any longer...what in the world does FUD stand for? Fear, Uncertainity and Doubt. (F**ked Up, Dude!) -- ~enjoy!~ -michael-
Re: [newbie] (g)napster
I had no problems with Gnapster until only a few days ago. Now, for some unknown reason, it no longer connects to Napster/OpenNap servers. I have switched to Knapster and it works fine. It may not look as pretty as Gnapster (it doesn't support KDE2 themes yet), but it has a few more features and more importantly, it actually works. Thanks to everyone who helped me with this problem. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:15, abe wrote: I had a lot of problems with gnapster so I switched to knapster and I've been happy ever since. Abe Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Has anyone here had any problems trying to connect to Napster and OpenNap servers via Gnapster (the latest version, 1.4.1a, that comes with Ximian/Helix GNOME)? All I get is a connection error. This has persisted over the past few days. I have not tried any other Napster clients yet, I guess I'll do that sometime too... -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
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Re: [newbie] Burning CD - not from ISO
If that isn't an option for you then you can download the ISO files from anyone of the many mirrors listed at the Linux Mandrake site, then burn them onto some Cd's. Grabbing them from an FTP server is a very time consuming process and something that I personally haven't done for quite some time. Something I definatetly wouldn't want to do again since its a very tedious task verifying every directory and file to make sure you've got everything. I have all the time in the world :-) I would like to avoid having to download 2*650 MB. I don't need support for any other languages, for a start. I just don't know what I need for the base system, and where I should put them. Ardavan
Re: [newbie] Scroll wheel not working with Netscape
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: As I said (indirectly) before (yes, it was me!!!), turning off numlock only enables scrolling in Netscape if you use XFree86 4.x. For XFree86 3.x you need to use imwheel. This has worked in both KDE and GNOME for me. name!) that mentioned something about switching off numlock. That may work in KDE but not in XFCE. I need to run "imwheel -k" for the scrolling to work in Netscape. You can add that to ~/.xinitrc. I use Xfree 4.0.1. and turning off numlock doesn't do it in XFCE. Must be something in KDE/Gnome then. Paul -- A mind is a terrible thing to waste http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
[newbie] kwintv and ML7.2
I have tried everything I know to do (very little I suppose) to get kwintv that ships with ml7.2 to work. (xawtv works fine after reading the manpages) but can't seem to get it to work. Anyone have an idea I can try?? -- Man lives in the sun lit world that he believes to be reality
[newbie] Can't compile or use drivers for Netgear fa312 NIC!
Hi folks, I've got 2 NICs in my box, a 3COM507 (3c507.o) and a new Netgear fa312. When I attempt to compile the drivers that came with the card (as well as the latest versions downloaded from the netgear website), I get a HOST (like 200 lines+) of compile errors and, obviously, no .o file. When I just copy the .o file on the disk into /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/net/ and reboot depmod reports "unresolved symbols in fa312.o" and no 2nd NIC Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Believe it or not, I don't have reliable access to NNTP, so if anyone is kind enough to respond, can you be sure to CC me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or this address). Thanks very much! Bryan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Can't compile or use drivers for Netgear fa312 NIC!
ever since I upgraded to mandrake 7.2 my network connection fails at bootup. more specifically dhcp cant resolve the host name and eth0 fails. that is until I manually run dhcpcd -h hostnamefrom a prompt. I've tried every combination of host+domain name for the network settings. So basically how can I get dhcp to work properly on boot, anyone have a similar problem? Using @home network if that helps any. josh lambert _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [newbie] Can't compile or use drivers for Netgear fa312 NIC!
I have both an FA311 and FA312. They are both toast, as far as Linux is concerned, IMHO. On the Netgear support site, they have a link to a guy that created some drivers, and I tried to follow the instructions, there, but to no avail. I emailed the Netgear tech support with a request for help or instructions in November, but they never responded. Isn't it sad that they say "Linux" on the box? At every computer store I go to, if they try to sell me any Netgear stuff (like last week at CDW), I tell the this saga. Nothing like advertising via word of mouth for effectiveness. Guess who builds networks for a living and won't be buying any more Netgear crap? BTW, trade for an FA310 if you can, as that will just work with a Tulip driver. good luck, BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bryan Cross Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Can't compile or use drivers for Netgear fa312 NIC! Hi folks, I've got 2 NICs in my box, a 3COM507 (3c507.o) and a new Netgear fa312. When I attempt to compile the drivers that came with the card (as well as the latest versions downloaded from the netgear website), I get a HOST (like 200 lines+) of compile errors and, obviously, no .o file. When I just copy the .o file on the disk into /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/net/ and reboot depmod reports "unresolved symbols in fa312.o" and no 2nd NIC Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Believe it or not, I don't have reliable access to NNTP, so if anyone is kind enough to respond, can you be sure to CC me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or this address). Thanks very much! Bryan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
