RE: [newbie-it] /etc/modules

2002-12-14 Per discussione robi . tn
Ma che distribuzione usi?
Se ti può interessare uso la MDK9 e c'è!
Strano!



-- Messaggio originale --
From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: M.l [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:20:02 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie-it] /etc/modules


Ave lista,
volevo chiedervi.il file modules è comune a tutte le distro?
modules viene richiamato da /etc/rc.d/rc.modules in fase di avvio,
e qui (in modules)dovrei inserirci i moduli da far caricareora,in

questa nuova distro che sto cercando di far funzionare,non lo trovo!
e se lo agiungessi a manina? funzierebbe?
grazie gia da ora per le risposte.

Ciao , Tom







Re: [newbie-it] /etc/modules

2002-12-14 Per discussione tom
Alle 10:58, sabato 14 dicembre 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 Ma che distribuzione usi?
 Se ti può interessare uso la MDK9 e c'è!
 Strano!

Anche io ho la MDK9.0
ma sto cercando di far funzionare la Slack.forse un po troppo complicato 
per me :)

Ciao , Tom




Re: [newbie-it] /etc/modules

2002-12-14 Per discussione syd
* tom wrote:
 Anche io ho la MDK9.0
 ma sto cercando di far funzionare la Slack.forse un po troppo complicato 
 per me :)

/etc/modules.conf

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Re: [newbie-it] INSTALLAZIONE SU PARTIZIONI GIA' ESISTANTI!

2002-12-14 Per discussione Daniele Micci
Alle 17:05, venerdì 13 dicembre 2002, Rocco Geol. Gibilras ha scritto:
 Saluti a tutta la ML,

 dopo aver letto nella guida in rete di MANDRAKE al Capitolo 1.
[CUT]

Ciao Rocco,
stai tranquillo: a meno che non glielo dica espressamente tu, Linux non ha 
alcun interesse a piallarti la partizione di Windows. L'installazione 
completa, semplicemente, serve ad installare Linux eliminando una eventuale 
precedente installazione dello stesso SO (o di altri SO), oppure per la prima 
installazione su un PC; mentre l'installazione di aggiornamento 
(sconsigliata, in ogni caso) ti consente di *aggiornare* una precedente 
installazione di Mandrake già presente nei tuoi hard disk! Dal momento che 
per te si tratta della prima installazione, vai tranquillo con la prima 
opzione.
Per quanto riguarda le partizioni, Linux dovrebbe rilevare automaticamente 
tutti i dati dei tuoi dischi e presentarti, in fase di installazione, un 
resoconto grafico di come sono sistemati: a quel punto, dovrai semplicemente 
porre attenzione a creare le partizioni necessarie nell'hard disk giusto, ed 
a non dare il comando di formattazione per le partizioni Windows (ma questa 
opzione è già disattivata di default, quindi non puoi sbagliarti: dovresti 
dargli *tu* il comando... in sostanza, per darti la zappa sui piedi, te ne 
devi accorgere!)... ovviamente, come in tutte le installazioni, è bene 
eseguire prima un bel backup dei dati presenti nel tuo PC che non puoi 
permettere di perdere (ma questa dovrebbe essere già un'abitudine di 
chiunque, vista la possibilità - remota, ma esistente - di un guasto 
hardware, o quella - ben più rilevante: una probabilità... se non una 
certezza - di un malfunzionamento irreparabile di Windows...
Insomma, detto questo... benvenuto! ;)

Daniele

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binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»






[newbie-it] Masterizzare, device, devfs.

2002-12-14 Per discussione Stefano Sebastiani
Scusate ma ho un piccolo problema.
seguendo il mixcro howto masterizzare..., ho modificato lilo, rilanciato, 
lanciato il insmode (e provato anche il modprobe) sempre come detto nel mhm, 
modificato il modules.conf come indicato in CD-Writing-HOWTO.
Ordunque non ho nessun device scsi in dev, oviamente scd0 e scd1 non esistono 
(sarebbero dei SL a file contenuti in /dev/scsi/) e questa directori è 
vuotà!!!
Come crearli!
Dov'è l'errore?




Re: [newbie-it] MDK 9 e non ha pi X!!!!!

2002-12-14 Per discussione Stefano Sebastiani

 Dopo essermi cosparso il capo di cenere ho downloadaTO I TAR scompattati,
 maketizati e installati e vuoilà ho il logo NVidia sul mio Toshiba
 Satellite 6100 Professional
 
Ora ho NVidia anche sul PC Home anche se ho dovuto pasticciare un pò coi 
file Tar non avevo sistemato il kernel e per disinstallarli (non sapendo come 
cavolo fare con i tar) ho sovrainstallato l'equivalente pacchetto rpm 
ottenuto dai sorgenti in rpm con rpm --rebuild, MIRACOLO prima di fare un bel 
urpme ho dato un init 6 e RIMIRACOLO avevo Nvidia sul HomePC.

Ri, Rigrazie.

PS:
E' stranamente lento la fase di lancio di X con diversi secondi di nero molto 
preoccupante, però dopo il logo che saluta è consolante.




[newbie-it] Re: [newbie-it] MDK 9 e non ha pi X!!!!!

2002-12-14 Per discussione Roberto C 2
Per chi interessasse ecco un link che spiega come installare NVIDIA sul pc
senza grosse modifiche:

http://linux.html.it/articoli/invidia_linux_1.htm

I Driver:
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp


- Original Message -
From: Stefano Sebastiani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie-it] MDK 9 e non ha più X!



  Dopo essermi cosparso il capo di cenere ho downloadaTO I TAR
scompattati,
  maketizati e installati e vuoilà ho il logo NVidia sul mio Toshiba
  Satellite 6100 Professional

 Ora ho NVidia anche sul PC Home anche se ho dovuto pasticciare un pò coi
 file Tar non avevo sistemato il kernel e per disinstallarli (non sapendo
come
 cavolo fare con i tar) ho sovrainstallato l'equivalente pacchetto rpm
 ottenuto dai sorgenti in rpm con rpm --rebuild, MIRACOLO prima di fare un
bel
 urpme ho dato un init 6 e RIMIRACOLO avevo Nvidia sul HomePC.

 Ri, Rigrazie.

 PS:
 E' stranamente lento la fase di lancio di X con diversi secondi di nero
molto
 preoccupante, però dopo il logo che saluta è consolante.








Re: [newbie-it] MDK 9 e non ha pi X!!!!!

2002-12-14 Per discussione Daniele Micci
Alle 18:09, sabato 14 dicembre 2002, Stefano Sebastiani ha scritto:
 PS:
 E' stranamente lento la fase di lancio di X con diversi secondi di nero
 molto preoccupante, però dopo il logo che saluta è consolante.

Questo potrebbe dipendere da un import dei Fonts di Windows (se lo hai fatto, 
ovviamente): io ho notato un rallentamento di alcune fasi del boot, dopo aver 
importato i fonts di Win (e infatti sto rimuovendo i font meno utili e quelli 
decisamente *inutili*).
Ciao...

Daniele

-- 

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binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»




Re: [newbie-it] /etc/modules

2002-12-14 Per discussione tom
Alle 17:17, sabato 14 dicembre 2002, syd ha scritto:

 /etc/modules.conf

Troppo semplice:)
ho gia provato cosi! e non funge! :)
nella MDK mettevo i richiami ai moduli in modules
ora mi tocca farli caricareogni volta a manina da linea :(
sono stupidissimi moduli per la skeda audio.

Caio , Tom





Re: [newbie-it] /etc/modules

2002-12-14 Per discussione tom
Alle 18:15, domenica 15 dicembre 2002, tom ha scritto:

 Troppo semplice:)
 ho gia provato cosi! e non funge! :)
 nella MDK mettevo i richiami ai moduli in modules
 ora mi tocca farli caricareogni volta a manina da linea :(
 sono stupidissimi moduli per la skeda audio.

aa cmq ho risolto,ho inserendo la chiamata direttamente in rc.modules!
ora la domanda rimane sempre aperta.c'era un modo alternativo?
grazie.

Ciao , Tom





R: [newbie-it] INSTALLAZIONE SU PARTIZIONI GIA' ESISTANTI!

2002-12-14 Per discussione Rocco Geol. Gibilras


Ciao Rocco,
stai tranquillo: a meno che non glielo dica espressamente tu, Linux non ha
alcun interesse a piallarti la partizione di Windows.
L'installazione...
  [CUT]
...di un malfunzionamento irreparabile di Windows...
Insomma, detto questo... benvenuto! ;)

Daniele

OK! Grazie Daniele anche e soprattutto per l'accoglienza! Sei stato
abbastanza meticoloso ed altrettanto chiaro nella tua risposta!
Saluti a te come a tutta la ML!
Rocco







Re: [newbie-it] pinnacle studio dc 10 +

2002-12-14 Per discussione Pollo
Il sab, 2002-12-14 alle 02:50, francesco.melo ha scritto:
 Salve alla lista
 Ho questa scheda di acquisizione ... linux la vede ma non riesco a farla 
 andare...
 Ho anche una hauppage  sintonizzatore tv
 che con Xawtv funziona alla grande , mentre su win con netmeeting si 
 piantava.
  Qualcuno e' riuscito a far andare la scheda in oggetto?
  Ho provato a far caricare i moduli del kernel per questa scheda ma , nulla.
 
 Grazie per l'aiuto
 
 francesco
 
 

Ho un po di domande da farti...

La Hauppage in questione è la WinTV-GO?
Quando registri un canale tv che formati puoi utilizzare? Con che
risoluzione? Sul sito dice avi di 388 x 284 a 25 frame al secondo;
confermi? Quanto occupa al minuto un file avi con quelle
caratteristiche? 

Scusa per l'interrogatorio.

Grazie, Pollo.








Re: [newbie-it] MDK 9 e non ha più X!!!!!

2002-12-14 Per discussione Corrado
Il sab, 2002-12-14 alle 18:41, Daniele Micci ha scritto:
 Alle 18:09, sabato 14 dicembre 2002, Stefano Sebastiani ha scritto:
  PS:
  E' stranamente lento la fase di lancio di X con diversi secondi di nero
  molto preoccupante, però dopo il logo che saluta è consolante.
 
 Questo potrebbe dipendere da un import dei Fonts di Windows (se lo hai fatto, 
 ovviamente): io ho notato un rallentamento di alcune fasi del boot, dopo aver 
 importato i fonts di Win (e infatti sto rimuovendo i font meno utili e quelli 
 decisamente *inutili*).
 Ciao...

Succede anche a me (pc nuovo, nessun altro os installato oltre a MDK 9); succede
fin dal primo avvio, quindi non deriva da alcuna modifica eseguita a posteriori...

Corrado





[newbie-it] audio e moduli

2002-12-14 Per discussione Arwan
Come posso identificare i moduli utilizzati dalla mia scheda audio (una Sound 
Blaster Awe 64 Gold)? In modules/sound ne ho una marea, e non credo servano 
tutti...

PS per Tom: riguardo la tua mail sui moduli... ho l'impressione che ti 
ritrovi a dover lanciare il modprobe ogni volta che riavvii... perche' ho 
cercato di seguire il tuo consiglio di copiare i moduli della scheda audio 
nell'apposita cartella della Slack... ma ci sono gia' tutti! E allora perche' 
sulla MDK funziano e sulla Slack no? Vuol dire che la Slack non li avvia... 
almeno credo...

-- 
Arwan





[newbie-it] Lame2: i parametri

2002-12-14 Per discussione Arwan
Ciao ragassi!
Mi stavo prodigando alla conversione di mp3 da dare in pasto al mio nuovo 
lettore, e mi sono ritrovata, controllando la riuscita del processo, con un 
interrogativo: come si da' il bit rate costante? Credevo d'averlo fatto, ma 
durante l'ascolto xmms mi mostra diversi valori per il kbps. Ho convertito i 
file wav da shell, con il comando:

lame -h --abr 192 *.wav *.mp3

Il problema e' nato perche' dando --abr 128 mi ritrovo con file col bit rate 
variabile da 112 a 160, e io non voglio assolutamente scendere sotto i 128...
Se imposto a 192, invece, i valori del kbps variano da 160 in su. Qualcuno sa 
spiegarmi perche' (e il man del lame e' in inglese?)

-- 
Arwan




[newbie-it] script e operazioni su variabili di testo

2002-12-14 Per discussione Arwan
Sempre cercando di automatizzare il processo di conversione dei file wav in 
mp3, mi sono trovata con uno script che vorrei migliorare. In pratica ho una 
variabile TIT che e' del tipo audio_xx.wav, dove xx e' un numero. Vorrei 
estrarre da questa variabile l'informazione xx, e assegnarla ad una seconda 
variabile. In pratica, si tratta di togliere da TIT la parte di scritta 
audio_ e .wav. Sapete come posso fare?
-- 
Arwan





Re: [newbie-it] smp e apm

2002-12-14 Per discussione LukenShiro
Alle 18:24, sabato 14 dicembre 2002, Stefano Sebastiani ha scritto:
 Qualcuno sà come farli convivere per usarli assieme?!?

Direi che non c'e' possibilita' (AFAIK, dato che non ho mai avuto il 
piacere di utilizzare un dual-processor).
Potresti optare per la meno matura ma altrettanto ben funzionante 
funzionalita' acpi (previo utilizzo delle ultime patch per il kernel, 
che, come gia' detto in altra sede, ignoro se siano o meno state gia' 
applicate da MDK ai suoi kernel)

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Re: [newbie-it] newsgroup

2002-12-14 Per discussione LukenShiro
Alle 21:49, venerdì 13 dicembre 2002, Nicola ha scritto:
 Volevo chiedere, se qualcuno conosce qualche buon newsgroup, su linux
 in generale e/o mandrake, in italiano.

it.comp.os.linux.* sono NG in italiano in parte generici e in parte 
settoriali (per argomento, non per distribuzione)
Sul concetto di buono non mi posso pronunciare, non conoscendoli piu' di 
tanto.

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Re: [newbie-it] audio e moduli

2002-12-14 Per discussione LukenShiro
Alle 21:47, sabato 14 dicembre 2002, Arwan ha scritto:
 Come posso identificare i moduli utilizzati dalla mia scheda audio (una
 Sound Blaster Awe 64 Gold)? In modules/sound ne ho una marea, e non
 credo servano tutti...

Mi son perso l'eventuale parte precedente del discorso, ma hai installato 
i driver ALSA (che AFAIR dovrebbero essere all'interno dei sorgenti del 
kernel, altrimenti vanno scaricati da www.alsa-project.org)?
In tal caso il modulo e' snd-sbawe e il procedimento e' questo:
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php3?company=Creative+Labscard=Soundblaster+Awe64+Goldchip=EMU8Kmodule=sbawe

Se invece non li usi (e quindi usi gli OSS tradizionali, che accompagnano 
il kernel attualmente [anche se ancora per poco]), consiglio cmq di dare 
un'occhiata qui:
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/README.awe
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/AWE32
(ovviamente devi aver installato i sorgenti del kernel)

 PS per Tom: riguardo la tua mail sui moduli... ho l'impressione che ti
 ritrovi a dover lanciare il modprobe ogni volta che riavvii... perche'
 ho cercato di seguire il tuo consiglio di copiare i moduli della scheda
 audio nell'apposita cartella della Slack... ma ci sono gia' tutti! E
 allora perche' sulla MDK funziano e sulla Slack no? Vuol dire che la
 Slack non li avvia... almeno credo...

Azzardo abusivamente una risposta ;): il caricamento dei moduli e' 
abbastanza diverso:
1) in slack i due file importanti per il caricamento dei moduli sono 
/etc/rc.d/rc.modules (in cui mettere i comandi di caricamento dei moduli: 
modprobe xx) e /etc/modules.conf (in cui mettere gli alias). Nel caso 
si utilizzino gli ALSA basta copiare a mano il servizio alsasound da 
qualche parte e farlo richiamare p.es. da rc.local; qui niente si carica 
da solo :)
2) AFAIR, MDK dovrebbe essere strutturata per auto-caricare una buona 
parte dei moduli, e quelli che non si auto-caricano, andrebbero messi in 
/etc/modules; ovviamente anche qui modules.conf ha la stessa 
configurazione di prima.
Se si utilizzano gli ALSA, il servizio alsasound sara' copiato 
automaticamente al posto giusto in fase di installazione, e potra' essere 
attivato come ogni altro servizio (es. drakxservices)
In ogni caso copiare a manina i moduli non e' mai una buona soluzione ;)

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[newbie-it] Spell-checking

2002-12-14 Per discussione Corrado
Ciao, come si attiva lo spell-checking in Evolution? Sembra tutto sia
installato correttamente, ma dalle opzioni non è selezionabile alcun
linguaggio...

Corrado





[newbie] configure script failure

2002-12-14 Per discussione ashutosh
while installing some softwares and running the configure script i get the 
failure message similar to:
' configure : error: Qt (= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found.Please 
check your installation.'
What i am missing as i think i have Qt3 installed. 


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Re: [newbie] Three random GNOME questions

2002-12-14 Per discussione David Robertson
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 19:03, Noah A Hicks wrote:
 I have three unrelated GNOME questions.
 1.  How do I enable/disable the AA fonts?  When I boot up, I get logged
 into GNOME with AA off.  If I logout and log back on, AA is on.
 2. Why do applications like Galeon and Gnumeric use different font sizes
 than those set in the GNOME desktop and how can I change this?  I have all
 my fonts set at the 10 size in the GNOME but Galeon and Gnumeric and
 anything that's not an intergral part of GNOME seems to use the 12 size
 font.
 3.  I would like to use the GDM as my logon program.  Right now the KDE
 logon manager is what I see when I logout of GNOME and I would like it to
 be the GDM.
 
 Thanks alot
 -Noah

Hi

I don't know much about the fonts questions, I'm afraid, but you can set
gdm as your login manager by editing (as root) /etc/sysconfig/desktop
and changing KDE to GNOME

David

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Re: [newbie] configure script failure

2002-12-14 Per discussione magnet
On Friday 13 Dec 2002 11:58 am, ashutosh wrote:
 while installing some softwares and running the configure script i get the
 failure message similar to:
 ' configure : error: Qt (= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not
 found.Please check your installation.'
 What i am missing as i think i have Qt3 installed.

Hi
You need to install the developer source headers for QT. I think they are on 
the 3rd CD.

regards
magnet



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Re: [newbie] Samba

2002-12-14 Per discussione magnet
On Saturday 14 Dec 2002 1:59 am, David Williams wrote:
 OK, I give up.
 I have a four computer network at home. I am running Linux on mine and
 Win98 on the other three. I have been using Samba  so I can copy files and
 etc and to share a printer on my computer with the others.

 Everything has been working fine and now my computer and printer can't be
 seen on the net. (I have very recently changed the monitor settings from
 800X600 to 1024X768 and got my background sound to work.)  That is the only
 thing that I have done.

 Under SWAT smb is running and nmb is not if I try to start nmb I get the
 errors below logged to the log.nmbd file.

 I have no idea what is failing or how to fix it or where to look to find
 out how to fix it.
 David

snip

Hi David.
Have a look at your linux settings using webmin first to see if drakconfig 
decided to switch your linux box's IP addy/change your LAN IP range. This 
will throw samba off a bit sometimes. [it did when I was installing the 
nvidia drivers].
Webmin makes a very good base setting 99% of the time. It also gives you the 
option to restart the samba server from within it's pages.
Also worth looking at is your /etc/hosts file to see if you have added your 
windows boxs and their local.domain.names plus alias's.

Let us know how you get on.

regards
magnet



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Re: [newbie] configure script failure

2002-12-14 Per discussione ashutosh
I have following software already installed :
libqt3-3.0.5-7mdk
libqt3-devel-3.0.5-7mdk
Can u calrify what else i need to  install,because i don't think any other 
appropriate Qt packages are on Cds.

On Saturday 14 December 2002 02:52 pm, magnet wrote:
 On Friday 13 Dec 2002 11:58 am, ashutosh wrote:
  while installing some softwares and running the configure script i get
  the failure message similar to:
  ' configure : error: Qt (= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not
  found.Please check your installation.'
  What i am missing as i think i have Qt3 installed.

 Hi
 You need to install the developer source headers for QT. I think they are
 on the 3rd CD.

 regards
 magnet



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Re: [newbie] Unexpected Installation Failure

2002-12-14 Per discussione Frans Ketelaars
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 01:05:07 -0500
Bryan Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a K62-500 system on which I have installed several different 
 Linux distros in the past (versions of SuSE and Mandrake). I had 
 Mandrake 8.2 in the house and decided to put it on this system. The 
 installer behaved very oddly when it reached package selection, and 
 ultimately it did not work. I decided, OK, let's try SuSE 8.1. Same 
 thing. Once it hit package selection, it failed.
 
 A little web searching seemed to indicate these later versions don't 
 even work with K62. Mandrake had a patch on their site, but I could not 
 get it to work even with the patch. Reading the SuSE box, I found in 
 the hardware requirements, for AMD it only lists Duron, Athlon, Athlon 
 XP and Athlon MP.  The Mandrake site also said it would not work with 
 Pentium I.
 
 In this case I installed Mandrake 8.1, and it worked great.
 
 I guess a K62 500 MHz is not very modern, but I would hardly consider it 
 obsolete. It has plenty of pep for use in the office. Linux used to 
 have an advantage for working with older hardware. It looks like that 
 advantage is being lost.

I have the same processor and had no problems with Mandrake 8.2 or 9.0 .

HTH,

-Frans


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Re: [newbie] Two Boxes (Linux and Win)

2002-12-14 Per discussione Mr. VLE79E
Yeah
You are right that Linux is superior to Windows as far as development but 
most users are using win so I need to test my site on windows. I have to 
tweak the code to meet win requirements. I do use hand coding.

Anyway, how can I get VMWare? How much is it?


From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Newbie list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Two Boxes (Linux and Win)
Date: 14 Dec 2002 18:30:14 +1100

On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 13:22, Warren Post wrote:
 El jue, 12-12-2002 a las 11:48, Mr. VLE79E escribió:
  I am planning to run two boxes. A Linux box to be my http server and a 
win
  box for developing web sites...

 I'm not answering your question, but if you don't mind my jumping in may
 I suggest you rethink your idea to use a Windows box for website
 development. I do websites and use Windows only at gunpoint. The apps
 available in Linux are so far beyond what Windows has to offer that
 there is no comparison.

 Code editors? Bluefish and Quanta beat their Windows brethren.
 Preprocessors? What few there are for Windows are mostly ports or
 ripoffs from *nix. WYSIWYG? I recommend hand coding, but IBM's Websphere
 stands up well to Dreamweaver. M$ Runt Page is too unworthy for
 comparison. Image editors? Gimp compares very well to Photoshop.

 Granted, if you have a favorite tool that you just can't live without,
 you might be stuck with Windows if it won't run in Wine. I still need a
 Windows box around to test my sites in M$IE. And if you do ASP, you may
 well want your web server to be IIS on Windows. But in general, I think
 you'll find Linux far superior to Windows for website development. YMMV,
 as always.

For my situation, I just run WinXP Pro in a VMWare window - do
everything without ever leaving linux...and yeah, hand coding is better
- at least you're IN CONTROL of what code yer throwing on the web...

I've also tweaked out my WINE so that I can run some apps under linux -
like Fractal Painter 5.0 - currently working on CorelDraw10...just a few
more dll's to trace out...

In our home network, the linux box is the mail server, internet
router/firewall, dns server internally, dhcp server, web server, ftp
server, samba server (PDC), newsgroup server (only a few) - the other
boxes that ARE Windows are generally for either the wife to check eBay,
do mail and play solitaire, or for testing...but all in all, the one
linux box is doing the job of two Windows machines - and more...

Where else can you run Win98SE, WinXP Pro and OS/2 all at the same time
without ever leaving your home environment or having more than one
computer?

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Re: [newbie] Digital cameras

2002-12-14 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 14 Dec 2002 4:30 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 13 Dec 2002 6:36 pm, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson
  Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:18 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Digital cameras
 
 
  OK - I bought the camera and went away for a few days holiday.  Now I
  have to
  try to get the pics.
 
  On Sunday 01 Dec 2002 5:48 pm, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:
   Fuji Finepix runs fine using the usb-storage module. This is the way I
   configured a Fuji FinePix S602 to run under Mandrake 9.0 via usb
  
   A) Be sure you have the next modules loaded:
   usb
   usb-core
   usb-storage
   usb-scsi
 
  How do I check if these are loaded?
 
  Do lsmod in a console

 It seems I have

 usb-storage
 usb-uhci (unused)
 usbcore [usb-storage printer usb-uhci]

 So if I need usb and usb-scsi how do I get them running?  I thought maybe
 the Services menu would list them and I would need to start them, but they
 don't seem to be there.  I've no more ideas on how to go about this.

 I'm also very confused about how Mdk handles these special devices.  I
 wrote to this list that I had lost my LS120 which had been sda, and it
 stayed lost for some considerable time (by which I had got desperate enough
 to start a paid Expert session, though that has not got me any replies),
 but coming back yesterday I find it is recognised again.  There are some
 problems, which I'll tackle in another thread, but I can't understand what
 has changed.  After all, I've been away and no-one else has been using the
 machine.  So it begs the question

 How does a special device get recognised?
 What can be done to initiate this process?

 As I said earlier, my LS120 is sda, so I expect the camera will become sdb,
 but it's not there.  Am I presuming wrongly?  Should I be looking for
 something else?

 Anne

Following a comment from John, I tried cat /proc/scsi/scsi with the following 
result:

[root@anne-linux anne]# cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
  Vendor: CANONModel: IX-27025ERev: 1.13
  Type:   Scanner  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: MATSHITA Model: LS-120 VER5   00 Rev: F523
  Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00
  Vendor: MITSUMI  Model: CR-48X9TERev: 1.0C
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi3 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor:  Model:  Rev:
  Type:   NULLANSI SCSI revision: 

The final entry must be the camera, I think.  Under /dev I see my Mitsumi as 
scd0 and the LS120 as sda.  I have had no success yet with the Canon - that 
can wait until later.   Does this output give any pointers as to where I 
should find it? 

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Re: [newbie] v9.0 -out, v8.2 -back in... :-(

2002-12-14 Per discussione Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 01:18, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Okay, i give up. After about 3 days of fighting with v9.0 (3 CD download 
 edition) I'm calling it quits and reinstalling v8.2. I tried noapic, I 
 tried noacpi, etc, etc... Occasionally, I could actually boot up, after 
 doing rescue (all installations go just fine - its that first reboot - forget 
 it - locks up hard). Even then, it usually would not boot up 2 times in a row 
 without locking up. Also, 1 time I got it to shutdown or reboot using 
 shutdown -r or -h now. Every other attempt would up with a:
 
 sending all processes the TERM signal  OK
 sending all processes the KILL signal...
 
 and nothing - locks up there.
 
 Whats so frustrating is that this same 3 CD set installed perfectly on a much 
 older computer here with far less specs. This one, my main computer is only 
 about a year old. Go figure.
 
 Now, some may say bad memory, bad HD, etc,etc,...okay maybe - altough like I 
 said its all brand name and less than 1 year old. Besides that, it was 
 perfectly stable with v8.2, and I'm back with 8.2 right now and its as stable 
 as a rock. (booting up fine, shutting down fine).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but have you not been running heavy duty games
on this system under 8.2, like Diablo 2, Quake 3, etc.  If this is your
premiere system and it's been doing what I think it's been doing, then I
can safely say that you can forgo the memory diags, cause you have a
known good system.

Since you have a known good system, you have basically troubleshot the
problem down to an incompatibility between an aspect of the hardware and
9.0.  The problem sounds like a piece of code that's close to the kernel
(like a driver) that's dying when the system starts up, and then cannot
be killed when the system is shut down.

It is somewhat likely that there may be some kind of motherboard bios
faux pas that has been corrected since the mobo was released.  My best
suggestion is to go to the Shuttle website and download the latest
greatest bios for your mobo, and flash the bios. (under vanilla dos)
It's possible that there may be a firmware incompatibility between 9.0
and the mobo;

Which begs the question of the rest of the peripherals.  Has your Nvidia
card been flashed with the latest firmware?  Or other peripherals? I
note your hardware list:

Shuttle motherboard
384 megs ram
AMD Athlon 900 cpu (Probably a 900 Tbird like mine)
Nvidia Geforce 2/64 megs ram (Probably a Bladerunner like mine)
SoundBlaster Xgamer Live sound card (shame on you for buying Creative..)
Adaptec 2930 SCSI card (3940U Dual channel RISC version here)
WinTV tuner card 
Linksys network card
Toshiba DVD (scsi) (Toshiba DVD/CDRW Combo here)
Plextor CDRW (scsi)
Iomega Zip internal/IDE (SCSI version here)

The SCSI card looks like an older one, therefore I remember a warning
that Civileme mentioned some time ago about using the wrong version of
the Adaptec SCSI driver.  I myself had been doing this for some time
without (consistent) bad results under 8.2, and wasn't aware I was doing
so until Civileme mentioned the problem.  HOWEVER, this may be a bigger
problem under 9.0 than it is under 8.2.  And, of course, this may not
even be the real problem.

My best suggestion is to check all versions of firmware on all
peripherals (and mobo) that are flashable, and update them to the latest
firmware.  Including your Toshiba DVD.  I don't need to remind you that
you should be careful when doing this ;)  and always attempt to use the
dos version of the firmware updates when available, and a vanilla dos
boot with no smartdrive.exe loaded.  This to me seems the most reliable
route.

I have a firmware update site for all DVD and Combo's.  If you need it

 I asked for support from Mandrake - Zero replies so far. (still got my 
 fingers crossed there). I've got the 9.0 DVD/manuals ordered (and they have 
 already cashed my check). I sure hope that it does better than the download 
 edition!

Ahh, yes.  As you well know I could go on about this, but I will just
say that I've been very patient so far since my paypal card was debited
by Mandrakeclub in October while I fondle the 9.0 mandrake boxes at Best
Buy.  Nuff said?

 In the past, I've noticed that problems I encountered with download editions 
 tended to disappear with the Powerpacks. I'm hoping the same is true, 
 otherwise, I'll be stuck with a useless DVD.
 
 If anyone else can shed light on this, please...put me out of my misery. :-)
 
 When I actually had it installed/running (as long as I didn't 
 shutdown/reboot!), v9.0 looks really great. I like it - I hope I actually get 
 to use it here...
 
 Catch everyone later...
 
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Re: [newbie] Change hostname?

2002-12-14 Per discussione Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 08:36, RichardA wrote:
 Can I change my hostname without causing problems? I ask because there is a 
 file in KDE called kdontchangethehostname.
 I think in theory it gets set from a file at boot (/etc/hosts?), a variable 
 gets set and everything else should reference that variable rather than be 
 hard coded.
 
 In theory.
 
 Richard

If you want to you can use the hostname command to temporarily change
the hostname of the system for that session, and it should return to
normal with a reboot or a reuse of the hostname command.

Do 'man hostname' and check it out. :)

l8r,

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9 firewall question

2002-12-14 Per discussione Franki
I suggest you forget the drake firewall stuff...

download and install gShield.. you will never look back.. its so easy to
configure and once it is, you don't have to touch a thing ever again.. and
its totally predictable.

rgds

Frank

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrei Raevsky
Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 10:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 9 firewall question


Hi,

When I launch my firewall configurator in the Mandrake Control Center, I get
the following message:

make sure you have configured your Network/Internet access with drakconnet
before going any further

Well, I have not.  I installed Mandrake 9 on a laptop with a modem, so I
could not configure any connection during the inital installation since my
laptop came with a so-called Winmodem.  I had to hack it with with a
Linmodem RPM to get any internet access at all.  Now all works fine.  I
connect to my ISP with a dial-up (slow: 28) using kppp.  At no stage did
drakconnect ever get involved.  Does this mean that I cannot install the
firewall offered by Mandrake 9 or that I need at all costs to use the
Mandrake connection utility rather than KDE kppp?  From my (very limited)
understanding of firewalls all that the Mandrake firewall does is block
certain ports (such as telnet or ftp) and if this is so - why this warning
message?  Who cares how my connection was configured as long as the right
ports are closed?

Thanks for any help with this!

Cheers,

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Re: [newbie] rm and the -i option

2002-12-14 Per discussione Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 10:24, Robin Turner wrote:
 Joseph Braddock wrote:
  On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 10:36, Ken Walker wrote:
  
 In LM9 when i try and do a rm -rv *, i keep being asked if i want to delete
 this, for all and every file.
 
 How do i turn the -i option off.
 
 Doesn't -f work?
 
 Sir Robin
 

I can assure you it does.  (wink-wink)

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RE: [newbie] Unexpected Installation Failure

2002-12-14 Per discussione Franki
Hell, I am running mandrake 9.0 on a couple of 233mmx machines, with 128 and
160Mb ram...

neither is a speed king, but both are bearable..

in fact, the one with 160mb is also a samba server, a mail server, a web
server a firewall and NAT server.. (on my home network)

Its got an uptime of months and its even usable in KDE.. so I was impressed.
8.2 wasn't as fast...


ram is important.. if you think you have enough, slap yourself around abit
and then get some more..

rgds


Franki

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frans Ketelaars
Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 6:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Unexpected Installation Failure


On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 01:05:07 -0500
Bryan Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a K62-500 system on which I have installed several different
 Linux distros in the past (versions of SuSE and Mandrake). I had
 Mandrake 8.2 in the house and decided to put it on this system. The
 installer behaved very oddly when it reached package selection, and
 ultimately it did not work. I decided, OK, let's try SuSE 8.1. Same
 thing. Once it hit package selection, it failed.

 A little web searching seemed to indicate these later versions don't
 even work with K62. Mandrake had a patch on their site, but I could not
 get it to work even with the patch. Reading the SuSE box, I found in
 the hardware requirements, for AMD it only lists Duron, Athlon, Athlon
 XP and Athlon MP.  The Mandrake site also said it would not work with
 Pentium I.

 In this case I installed Mandrake 8.1, and it worked great.

 I guess a K62 500 MHz is not very modern, but I would hardly consider it
 obsolete. It has plenty of pep for use in the office. Linux used to
 have an advantage for working with older hardware. It looks like that
 advantage is being lost.

I have the same processor and had no problems with Mandrake 8.2 or 9.0 .

HTH,

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[newbie] Mozilla 1.2.1 from cooker won't run

2002-12-14 Per discussione Tom Ekeberg
Hi,

Anybody here installed Mozilla 1.2.1 from cooker and got to work? I have 
tried on to separate machines and it simply doesn't work. If I try 
strace mozilla, it reports a --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
which does not make me much wiser.

I am at a loss. I have a fairly standard 9.0 installation as far as I 
know, and I have never had a problem like this before.

I don't know if it's related, but at about the same time OpenOffice 
stopped showing page previews and the help files (images are shown, as 
well as text larger than 16pt). Even if this is unrelated, I'd 
appreciate help on this as well.

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RE: [newbie] Linux installation Router Advice (a freebie script I wrote for connection monitoring.)

2002-12-14 Per discussione Franki
I had a problem where my pppoe connection was lost two or three times a
day..

Since I use it to host works stuff. I needed it to be able to reconnect
itself..

so I wrote this script.. it needs a few perl modules installed.. but it
works great..

Its rough, but it works..

It goes and checks if it can access both google and yahoo and if it can't
get one.. (it doesn't need to be able to get both.)
it will restart the connection and email you to tell you it did..

copy everything from the start to the end lines.. and put it in a file.. put
it in /usr/bin or similiar.. and make it executable.. then put an entry in
contab like this:

-0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * *   /usr/sbin/monitor_connection /dev/null


That will run the script every ten minutes., and fix the connection if it
goes down..
I have another version that monitors a dialup connection on another box..


###  START OF SCRIPT   
#!/usr/bin/perl

use LWP::UserAgent;
use HTTP::Request::Common qw(GET);
use MIME::Lite;

my $url = 'http://www.yahoo.com';
my $url2 = 'http://www.google.com';

my @email_address = ('[EMAIL PROTECTED]');

my $SMTP_server = '127.0.0.1';
my $response = LWP::UserAgent-new(env_proxy = 1)-simple_request(GET
$url);

unless ($response-is_success)
   sleep 15;
   my $response2 = LWP::UserAgent-new(env_proxy = 1)-simple_request(GET
$url2);
  Bunless ($response2-is_success)
  {
   our $date = get_date;
   my $message_txt = ADSL connection was down and was restarted at
$date;

system('/usr/sbin/adsl-stop');
sleep 5;
system('/usr/bin/killall -9 adsl-connect');
system('/usr/bin/killall -9 pppd');
sleep 5;
system('/usr/sbin/adsl-start');
foreach my $mailer (@email_address)
{
mail_data('[EMAIL PROTECTED]',$mailer, ADSL WARNING!
$date, $message
}
  }# end of unless2
} # end of unless1

#email and date subs follow.
sub mail_data
{
 #usage: mail_data(mail from address,Mail to address,
subject, message_txt);
my $from_address = shift;
my $to_address = shift;
my $subject = shift;
my $message_txt = shift;

 # Start the email body details.
 my $email_msg = MIME::Lite-new(
 From= $from_address,
 To  = $to_address,
 #Cc = '[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]',
 Subject = $subject,
 Type='TEXT',
 Data= $message_txt
 );
  $email_msg-send('smtp', $SMTP_server);
} # end of mail_data;
sub get_date
{
my ($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mon,$year,$wday,$yday,$isdst,$date);
my @days = ('Sunday','Monday','Tuesday','Wednesday','Thursday',
'Friday','Saturday');
my @months =
('January','February','March','April','May','June','July','August','Septembe
r','Oc
($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mon,$year,$wday,$yday,$isdst) = localtime(time);
if ($hour  10)
{
$hour = 0$hour;
}
if ($min  10)
{
$min = 0$min;
}
if ($sec  10)
{
$sec = 0$sec;
}
$year += 1900;
$date = $days[$wday], $months[$mon] $mday, $year at $hour\:$min\:$sec;
return $date;
}
exit(0);
 END OF SCRIPT ###


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson
Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 9:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux installation  Router Advice


On Friday 13 Dec 2002 10:18 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 All I'm asking is there any special things I need to know when installing
 linux behind a router?

 I bought one recently, works great with the windows installs... Took some
 fiddling but its all good now.

 So any special caveats, instructions, advice? warnings?

 Thx
 -
 FemmeFatale

 Good Decisions You boss Made:
 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

 - Source: Dilbert

FWIW, I had installed 8.2 when we put a router in for the adsl.  The
changeover from shared connection to PPPoE was painless, and I have seen no
problems that relate to the router issue.  When I upgraded to 9.0 no
problems
emerged either.

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems on my experience to be a
non-issue.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Unexpected Installation Failure

2002-12-14 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 14 December 2002 05:02 am, you wrote:

 I have the same processor and had no problems with Mandrake 8.2 or 9.0 .

 HTH,

 -Frans

9.0 and 8.2 works great with my sons AMD K6-III @ 475mhz...

(which ticks me off - I can't get 9.0 to work with my Athlon@900mhz!)

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Re: [newbie] rm and the -i option

2002-12-14 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 14 December 2002 10:56 am, you wrote:

 If you don't want to change the alias, because it will change it for all
 users, you can use /bin/rm  when you don't want the -i option.  I believe
 Mandrake uses the alias to keep people from accidently deleting everything.

Well, if you change the alias in that users /home directory it only affects 
*that* user, not any others.

There is a file you can change the alias in that affects all users, but 
really you don't want to do that. :-)

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[newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??

2002-12-14 Per discussione Angus Auld


   
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[newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??

2002-12-14 Per discussione Angus Auld
Greetings everyone, 
Whenever I try to open a midi file, I get the following error message:

Couldn't open /dev/sequencer.
Probably there is another program using it.

Well, I can't even find /dev/sequencer on my system. Anyone have any advice as to how 
I can get midi files to play on my Mdk 9.0 system?

TIA for any help.



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Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.2.1 from cooker won't run

2002-12-14 Per discussione Gary Montalbine
I installed 1.2.1 about a month ago. No problem installing.  However the 
plugins did not work and the spellchecker in E-mail did not work although it 
was installed. Switched to Texstar's Mozilla-xft-1.2.1 and as a browser it 
works great including plugins. The composer in E-mail will not word wrap 
properly and the spellchecker does not work. Attachments in incoming e-mail 
are not displayed. I am using xft-1.2.1 as the browser and Kmail for E-mail.
Gary


On Saturday 14 December 2002 01:30 pm, Tom Ekeberg wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Anybody here installed Mozilla 1.2.1 from cooker and got to work? I have 
 tried on to separate machines and it simply doesn't work. If I try 
 strace mozilla, it reports a --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
 which does not make me much wiser.
 
 I am at a loss. I have a fairly standard 9.0 installation as far as I 
 know, and I have never had a problem like this before.
 
 I don't know if it's related, but at about the same time OpenOffice 
 stopped showing page previews and the help files (images are shown, as 
 well as text larger than 16pt). Even if this is unrelated, I'd 
 appreciate help on this as well.
 
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Re: [newbie] v9.0 -out, v8.2 -back in... :-(

2002-12-14 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 14 December 2002 12:33 pm, you wrote:

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but have you not been running heavy duty games
 on this system under 8.2, like Diablo 2, Quake 3, etc.  If this is your
 premiere system and it's been doing what I think it's been doing, then I
 can safely say that you can forgo the memory diags, cause you have a
 known good system.

Yea, Warcraft 3, Diablo 2, Half-life, Rune, Soldier of Fortune, Terminus

smile

 My best suggestion is to check all versions of firmware on all
 peripherals (and mobo) that are flashable, and update them to the latest
 firmware.  Including your Toshiba DVD.  I don't need to remind you that
 you should be careful when doing this ;)  and always attempt to use the
 dos version of the firmware updates when available, and a vanilla dos
 boot with no smartdrive.exe loaded.  This to me seems the most reliable
 route.

 I have a firmware update site for all DVD and Combo's.  If you need it

I've never update the MB's (or peripherals) BIOS. Its always worked fine. You 
might be onto something there.

 Ahh, yes.  As you well know I could go on about this, but I will just
 say that I've been very patient so far since my paypal card was debited
 by Mandrakeclub in October while I fondle the 9.0 mandrake boxes at Best
 Buy.  Nuff said?

 ;-)


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Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??

2002-12-14 Per discussione Meliton
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 20:10, Angus Auld wrote:
 Greetings everyone, 
 Whenever I try to open a midi file, I get the following error message:
 
 Couldn't open /dev/sequencer.
 Probably there is another program using it.
 
 Well, I can't even find /dev/sequencer on my system. Anyone have any advice as to 
how I can get midi files to play on my Mdk 9.0 system?


Excuse me if you already know all this, I don't know where you're at
with MIDI but:

MIDI files contain information to control synthesizers and other
hardware so that they carry out certain actions, like playing sounds.

MIDI files don't contain any sound information themselves, just the
parameters for peripherals designed for that interface.

So there's no way a computer will play a MIDI file as it does, for
example, a .wav or .mp3. It needs special hardware, at least a
synthesizer.

Regards.
Meliton.





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Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??

2002-12-14 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 14 Dec 2002 7:51 pm, Meliton wrote:
 On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 20:10, Angus Auld wrote:
  Greetings everyone,
  Whenever I try to open a midi file, I get the following error message:
 
  Couldn't open /dev/sequencer.
  Probably there is another program using it.
 
  Well, I can't even find /dev/sequencer on my system. Anyone have any
  advice as to how I can get midi files to play on my Mdk 9.0 system?

 Excuse me if you already know all this, I don't know where you're at
 with MIDI but:

 MIDI files contain information to control synthesizers and other
 hardware so that they carry out certain actions, like playing sounds.

 MIDI files don't contain any sound information themselves, just the
 parameters for peripherals designed for that interface.

 So there's no way a computer will play a MIDI file as it does, for
 example, a .wav or .mp3. It needs special hardware, at least a
 synthesizer.

 Regards.
 Meliton.

Now that's confused me, for sure.  So how, exactly, do we play midi files on a 
computer?

(Not smart-arsing - genuinely want to know)

Anne


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[newbie] Peripheral help needed - usb storage

2002-12-14 Per discussione Anne Wilson
A couple of weeks ago I wrote about losing my LS120 drive, which had 
previously been recognised as sda.

For no obvious reason, it is now recognised again as sda, but it appears to be 
having trouble mounting.  I have tried it with and without supermount, but 
would prefer to keep the supermount if it is possible.

I have had it mount, yesterday, and read a file and write a file, but every 
operation took many times as long as it should.  Today it seems reluctant to 
mount at all.  Any opening of the /mnt branch of the tree causes it to start 
spinning up, and it spins, and spins, and spins and   After about 2 
minutes I get an error message saying 

The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly

I presume that I have something wrong with the settings, but can't imagine 
what.  My fstab and mtab are attached.  Can anyone advise me?

Anne
/dev/hdf1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hdf7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hde6 /mdk8_2 ext3 defaults 1 1
/dev/hdf6 /mnt/Data vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,user,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/LS120 supermount 
dev=/dev/sda,fs=auto,--,user,sync,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/hda,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
/dev/hde8 /mnt/graphics vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,user,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
/dev/hdg5 /mnt/temp ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hde1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,user,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
/dev/hde5 /oldhome ext3 defaults 1 2
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hde7 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/hdf5 swap swap defaults 0 0

/dev/hdf1 / ext3 rw 0 0
none /proc proc rw 0 0
none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0
none /dev devfs rw 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hdf7 /home ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/hde6 /mdk8_2 ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/hdf6 /mnt/Data vfat 
rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/LS120 supermount 
rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,dev=/dev/sda,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0
 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,dev=/dev/hda,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0
 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount 
rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0
 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0
 0 0
/dev/hde8 /mnt/graphics vfat 
rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
/dev/hdg5 /mnt/temp ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/hde1 /mnt/win_c vfat 
rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
/dev/hde5 /oldhome ext3 rw 0 0

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Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??

2002-12-14 Per discussione Angus Auld



- Original Message -
From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 20:05:41 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??

 On Saturday 14 Dec 2002 7:51 pm, Meliton wrote:
  On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 20:10, Angus Auld wrote:
   Greetings everyone,
   Whenever I try to open a midi file, I get the following error message:
  
   Couldn't open /dev/sequencer.
   Probably there is another program using it.
  
   Well, I can't even find /dev/sequencer on my system. Anyone have any
   advice as to how I can get midi files to play on my Mdk 9.0 system?
 
  Excuse me if you already know all this, I don't know where you're at
  with MIDI but:
 
  MIDI files contain information to control synthesizers and other
  hardware so that they carry out certain actions, like playing sounds.
 
  MIDI files don't contain any sound information themselves, just the
  parameters for peripherals designed for that interface.
 
  So there's no way a computer will play a MIDI file as it does, for
  example, a .wav or .mp3. It needs special hardware, at least a
  synthesizer.
 
  Regards.
  Meliton.
 
 Now that's confused me, for sure.  So how, exactly, do we play midi files on a 
 computer?
 
 (Not smart-arsing - genuinely want to know)
 
 Anne
 
***
Thanks for the replies,
I don't understand too much at all about midi. But, 
is there a way to get my Mdk system to produce the 
required sounds that are indicated in a midi file?

I haven't been able to get a peep out of Mdk on the 
e-cards that I receive that contain a musical segment 
in midi format.

I have TiMidity and instruments and all of the multimedia 
stuff that I can think of installed, but no midi tunes. :-/
Could there be something that has to be configured?
I'm at a loss. It's not anything I need, but I was able to 
hear midi in MS. :-(

Do you have the same problem trying to hear midi Anne?

--Angus

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[newbie] Weird Cron job problem

2002-12-14 Per discussione Anthony Abby
I've got a problem with a cron job that just seems so weird to me.  It
has to do with fnews, which I loaded up yesterday...

if I run '/usr/local/bin/fnews -f /root/news/fnewsgroups' from the
terminal everything runs just fine fnews pulls my injects and passes
them to my mailing list.  But if I try to run this all from cron I get
the following error:

-Forwarded Message-

 From: Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cron root@mail sh /root/news/cronrun
 Date: 14 Dec 2002 14:30:01 -0500
 
 Connecting to news.cavtel.net at port 119: .. done.
 fnews: //news/rec.arts.comics.dc.universe: cache create error: No such file 
 or directory Disconnecting from news.cavtel.net: done.


/etc/crontab

01 * * * * root /usr/local/bin/fnews -f /root/news/fnewsgroups

I also tried this

01 * * * * root sh /root/news/cronrun

/root/news/cronrun
/usr/local/bin/fnews -f /root/news/fnewsgroups

Any idea why this works from the terminal, but not in cron??

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Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??

2002-12-14 Per discussione Meliton
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 21:05, Anne Wilson wrote:
 
 Now that's confused me, for sure.  So how, exactly, do we play midi files on a 
 computer?

Well, MIDI is just a protocol. There are a series of events, such as a
note, with parameters, such as the volume or pitch of said note. All
events are arranged vertically (several sounds at the same time) and
horizontally (one thing after the other). This is what the famous
sequencer does, it's used to record/edit/replay the sequence of events
and accompanying parameters in the correct manner.

All this information is passed to a synthesizer which contains
samples. A sample would be, for example, the sound of a violin playing
a single note. The MIDI synthesizer, acting as slave, is cotrolled by
the sequencer, which passes along the information. When you play the
file, thus, you need a sequencer with the file loaded, as master (this
is just software) and a synth as slave (hardware).

There are all sorts of different additional pieces of hardware which can
be usefully controlled by MIDI, but that is the minimum setup.

Think of a MIDI file as a score sheet, which in fact is exactly what it
is. Score sheets don't sound, you need a musician (sequencer) and an
instrument (synth). I believe there are synths which are just a PC card,
and you could use that plus the appropriate software. But the actual
sound you are going to hear depends on your synth, and it requires a
very good one and an awful lot of work to make it sound nearly natural.
You do NOT hear what the author of the file hears on their system, you
have no way of really knowing what they hear unless they attach the make
and model af their synth, what samples they use, and how they're
tweaked. And you happen to have the same model synth to reproduce it
all.

If what you want is just to listen to music, stay away from MIDI. MIDI
is not music, it's just a sort of musical notation.

Hope that explains it.

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Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??

2002-12-14 Per discussione Meliton
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 21:41, Angus Auld wrote:

 
 I have TiMidity and instruments and all of the multimedia 
 stuff that I can think of installed, but no midi tunes. :-/

Seems like I'm way out of date on this. I've been quickly checking out
this TiMidity thing you mention, and it seems as if somebody has worked
out how to convert MIDI to sound, a sort of software synth. I know
nothing about this, I fear. I stopped working in the music field about
eight years ago, when such a thing wasn't possible. But I'll take a look
(this stuff takes me back, so I don't mind) and if I find anything
useful I'll get back to you.

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Re: [newbie] Linux installation Router Advice

2002-12-14 Per discussione FemmeFatale



FWIW, I had installed 8.2 when we put a router in for the adsl.  The
changeover from shared connection to PPPoE was painless, and I have seen no
problems that relate to the router issue.  When I upgraded to 9.0 no problems
emerged either.

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems on my experience to be a non-issue.

HTH

Anne


Thx Anne.  However my experience has been... Odd.

I went to install linux, everything went fine  I chose DHCP connection 
as I had always in the past.  The Router I use is acting as a DHCP Server 
after all, giving out addy's for our comps here.  Fine... Install went OK, 
it couldn't update packages but I expected that.  Rebooted into linux, it 
was fine.  No internet.  That was my first clue something was amiss.

Fiddling with things with both the expert  novice controls I found out 
that I had to disable DHCP/Bootp  enable a static IP addy. WTH?  Makes 
no sense, and I had to put in gateway  DNS numbers (the routers IP 
sufficed here).  Yet in Winsucks it works fine as a DHCP Server!?  OK 
something is amiss... but what?

-
FemmeFatale

Good Decisions You boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

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[newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse Windowmaker

2002-12-14 Per discussione FemmeFatale



First off:

Can't seem to run KDE LICQ from the KDE Start menu.  Haven't tried it from 
a term yet so I don't know the error.

Secondly, anyone try windowmaker yet?  I've never really given it a chance 
but decided to see if it was different now.  It isn't much, but the Panel 
you get doesn't come up  I get some strange error about it not being 
installed?

Always before in 8.2 my right mouse button was exactly that,my right mouse 
button.  Now its my wheel button that needs to be pushed in, clicked as it 
were, to operate as a mouse2 button.  ERM  OK I chose the right 
mouse... M$ Intellimouse... anyone else with this troubling little 
problem?  And I'm not sure if that just affects Enlightenment yet...  KDE 
Seems to find my right mouse button fine... Unless I'm misinterpreting my 
little experiments.


-
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Good Decisions You boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

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RE: [newbie] Linux installation Router Advice (a freebie script I wrote for connection monitoring.)

2002-12-14 Per discussione FemmeFatale
At 02:39 AM 12/15/2002 +0800, you wrote:

I had a problem where my pppoe connection was lost two or three times a
day..

Since I use it to host works stuff. I needed it to be able to reconnect
itself..

so I wrote this script.. it needs a few perl modules installed.. but it
works great..

Its rough, but it works..

It goes and checks if it can access both google and yahoo and if it can't
get one.. (it doesn't need to be able to get both.)
it will restart the connection and email you to tell you it did..

copy everything from the start to the end lines.. and put it in a file.. put
it in /usr/bin or similiar.. and make it executable.. then put an entry in
contab like this:

-0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * *   /usr/sbin/monitor_connection /dev/null


That will run the script every ten minutes., and fix the connection if it
goes down..
I have another version that monitors a dialup connection on another box..


snip out (ir)relevant scripting :)

Thx Frank.  If I need it I'll use it. :)  You don't say which Perl libs 
though?  Care to enlighten us?

-
FemmeFatale

Good Decisions You boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

- Source: Dilbert



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Re: [newbie] Linux installation Router Advice

2002-12-14 Per discussione Dennis Myers
On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:22 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 FWIW, I had installed 8.2 when we put a router in for the adsl.  The
 changeover from shared connection to PPPoE was painless, and I have seen
  no problems that relate to the router issue.  When I upgraded to 9.0 no
  problems emerged either.
 
 Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems on my experience to be a
  non-issue.
 
 HTH
 
 Anne

 Thx Anne.  However my experience has been... Odd.

 I went to install linux, everything went fine  I chose DHCP connection
 as I had always in the past.  The Router I use is acting as a DHCP Server
 after all, giving out addy's for our comps here.  Fine... Install went OK,
 it couldn't update packages but I expected that.  Rebooted into linux, it
 was fine.  No internet.  That was my first clue something was amiss.

 Fiddling with things with both the expert  novice controls I found out
 that I had to disable DHCP/Bootp  enable a static IP addy. WTH?  Makes
 no sense, and I had to put in gateway  DNS numbers (the routers IP
 sufficed here).  Yet in Winsucks it works fine as a DHCP Server!?  OK
 something is amiss... but what?

 -
 FemmeFatale

 Good Decisions You boss Made:
 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

 - Source: Dilbert

Sorry, I have lost track of this thread, but do you have both the DHCP server 
and client installed on your machine? Not sure but think you need both. (Oh, 
I get so confused, he,he.) Mostly it is somehymers. HTH
-- 
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Re: [newbie] v9.0 -out, v8.2 -back in... :-(, Small OT

2002-12-14 Per discussione FemmeFatale
At 12:33 PM 12/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:

snipper with some hedge trimmers I have lying around





It is somewhat likely that there may be some kind of motherboard bios
faux pas that has been corrected since the mobo was released.  My best
suggestion is to go to the Shuttle website and download the latest
greatest bios for your mobo, and flash the bios. (under vanilla dos)
It's possible that there may be a firmware incompatibility between 9.0
and the mobo;



You mention flashing an Nvidia card ... I have yet to figure out how to do so?!

Wanna email me off list (or on, your choice ofc) about how to go about 
this?  Mines a creative labs ( ya ya I know you hate em, so shoot me... and 
btw suggest a diff frigging soundcard I can get thats compatible with most 
of todays games? Hercules will no longer make sound cards which is what I 
was planning to buy :( ) GeForce2.  So is my g/f's.

Any advice?
-
FemmeFatale

Good Decisions You boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

- Source: Dilbert



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RE: [newbie] Linux installation Router Advice (a freebie script I wrote for connection monitoring.)

2002-12-14 Per discussione Franki
sure,

This written at the top of the script.. sorry, should have been more
precise...

use LWP::UserAgent;
use HTTP::Request::Common qw(GET);
use MIME::Lite;


so just go to seach.cpan.org
and use the search facility to find:

LWP::UserAgent
MIME::Lite
HTTP::Request

the download links will be on the search results..

Though there are probably mandrake RPM's for this on the disks or
contribs...

MIME::Lite is for sending the email and
LWP::UserAgent and HTTP::Request are for getting the google/yahoo request...

Thats all you need..

I use variations of this script for monitoring our work servers and telling
me when they are down as well.
very handy..

rgds

Frank


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FemmeFatale
Sent: Sunday, 15 December 2002 5:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux installation  Router Advice (a freebie
script I wrote for connection monitoring.)


At 02:39 AM 12/15/2002 +0800, you wrote:
I had a problem where my pppoe connection was lost two or three times a
day..

Since I use it to host works stuff. I needed it to be able to reconnect
itself..

so I wrote this script.. it needs a few perl modules installed.. but it
works great..

Its rough, but it works..

It goes and checks if it can access both google and yahoo and if it can't
get one.. (it doesn't need to be able to get both.)
it will restart the connection and email you to tell you it did..

copy everything from the start to the end lines.. and put it in a file..
put
it in /usr/bin or similiar.. and make it executable.. then put an entry in
contab like this:

-0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * *   /usr/sbin/monitor_connection /dev/null


That will run the script every ten minutes., and fix the connection if it
goes down..
I have another version that monitors a dialup connection on another box..

snip out (ir)relevant scripting :)

Thx Frank.  If I need it I'll use it. :)  You don't say which Perl libs
though?  Care to enlighten us?

-
FemmeFatale

Good Decisions You boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

- Source: Dilbert






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Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??

2002-12-14 Per discussione Meliton

On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 21:41, Angus Auld wrote:


Couldn't open /dev/sequencer.
Probably there is another program using it.
   
Well, I can't even find /dev/sequencer on my system.

It looks like TiMidity has defaults you don't want. Try running it with
the -o filename option, where filename is a temporary .wav, and then
see if you can play that. I don't know if you have to create an empty
file first, manual doesn't say, but I should think not.

Good luck.

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Re: [newbie] Linux installation Router Advice

2002-12-14 Per discussione FemmeFatale
At 03:33 PM 12/14/2002 -0600, you wrote:



 Thx Anne.  However my experience has been... Odd.

 I went to install linux, everything went fine  I chose DHCP connection
 as I had always in the past.  The Router I use is acting as a DHCP Server
 after all, giving out addy's for our comps here.  Fine... Install went OK,
 it couldn't update packages but I expected that.  Rebooted into linux, it
 was fine.  No internet.  That was my first clue something was amiss.

 Fiddling with things with both the expert  novice controls I found out
 that I had to disable DHCP/Bootp  enable a static IP addy. WTH?  Makes
 no sense, and I had to put in gateway  DNS numbers (the routers IP
 sufficed here).  Yet in Winsucks it works fine as a DHCP Server!?  OK
 something is amiss... but what?

 -
 FemmeFatale

 Good Decisions You boss Made:
 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

 - Source: Dilbert

Sorry, I have lost track of this thread, but do you have both the DHCP server
and client installed on your machine? Not sure but think you need both. (Oh,
I get so confused, he,he.) Mostly it is somehymers. HTH
--
Dennis M.  linux user # 180842


Sweety:

I've never needed a DHCP CLient before... why the hell would I need one now?

The router itself acts as the DHCP server so it serves up address like: 
192.168.1.100 or ... 1.101, etc...

What I don't understand is why in winsux, it operates correctly as that 
DHCP server, yet Linux demands a static address from me, gateway  DNS 
numbers...?


-
FemmeFatale

Good Decisions You boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

- Source: Dilbert



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Re: [newbie] Linux installation Router Advice

2002-12-14 Per discussione Technoslick
Femme,

For the longest time, I was letting my Lynksys router/firewall/gateway do
the DHCP for my mixed O/S network. During that time, my NT 4.0 Server was
acting as a Primary Domain Control (PDC) and a secured resource center file
sharing between my business and family needs. I had no problems with this
set-up, letting my MDK 8.2, 9.0 and RH systems acting as DHCP clients. All
that was necessary was to make sure that my router/firewall.gateway was set
up correctly to assign addresses as I wanted them to be.

Once I set-up the RH 8.0 file sharing server (I had already removed the NT
server from the network long before), I had some issues with this set-up
using Samba. Instead of playing to much with this, I just went to static
addressing all around, making sure that my HOSTS and LMHOSTS files were
proper and synchronized. It's been this way since and I have had no problems
or complaints to share. With my own network, being down is really difficult
for me to accept. Sometimes, it causes me to take the shortest means to my
goal and I lose the chance to learn how to get what I want done my way.
Sorry, I can't give you any ideas at to why the static addressing was the
way that worked for me.

However, you can mix and match. Keep the router DHCP server, Windows boxes
as clients and make the Linux boxes static. You will need to set-up
HOSTS/LMHOSTS files on every machine for the static addressed machines to be
seeable by the DHCP clients by their netbios name, and you will need to
make sure you set-up the router as your gateway for the Linux machines and
your ISP DNS server(s) for DNS. HOSTS and LMHOSTS files only need to be
created once and then copied to all machines as needed, so this isn't as
messy as it sounds for a small network.

Does this help any?

T



- Original Message -
From: FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux installation  Router Advice




FWIW, I had installed 8.2 when we put a router in for the adsl.  The
changeover from shared connection to PPPoE was painless, and I have seen no
problems that relate to the router issue.  When I upgraded to 9.0 no
problems
emerged either.

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems on my experience to be a
non-issue.

HTH

Anne

Thx Anne.  However my experience has been... Odd.

I went to install linux, everything went fine  I chose DHCP connection
as I had always in the past.  The Router I use is acting as a DHCP Server
after all, giving out addy's for our comps here.  Fine... Install went OK,
it couldn't update packages but I expected that.  Rebooted into linux, it
was fine.  No internet.  That was my first clue something was amiss.

Fiddling with things with both the expert  novice controls I found out
that I had to disable DHCP/Bootp  enable a static IP addy. WTH?  Makes
no sense, and I had to put in gateway  DNS numbers (the routers IP
sufficed here).  Yet in Winsucks it works fine as a DHCP Server!?  OK
something is amiss... but what?

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We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
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Re: [newbie] Linux installation Router Advice

2002-12-14 Per discussione FemmeFatale
At 05:46 PM 12/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Femme,

For the longest time, I was letting my Lynksys router/firewall/gateway do
the DHCP for my mixed O/S network. During that time, my NT 4.0 Server was
acting as a Primary Domain Control (PDC) and a secured resource center file
sharing between my business and family needs. I had no problems with this
set-up, letting my MDK 8.2, 9.0 and RH systems acting as DHCP clients. All
that was necessary was to make sure that my router/firewall.gateway was set
up correctly to assign addresses as I wanted them to be.

Once I set-up the RH 8.0 file sharing server (I had already removed the NT
server from the network long before), I had some issues with this set-up
using Samba. Instead of playing to much with this, I just went to static
addressing all around, making sure that my HOSTS and LMHOSTS files were
proper and synchronized. It's been this way since and I have had no problems
or complaints to share. With my own network, being down is really difficult
for me to accept. Sometimes, it causes me to take the shortest means to my
goal and I lose the chance to learn how to get what I want done my way.
Sorry, I can't give you any ideas at to why the static addressing was the
way that worked for me.

However, you can mix and match. Keep the router DHCP server, Windows boxes
as clients and make the Linux boxes static. You will need to set-up
HOSTS/LMHOSTS files on every machine for the static addressed machines to be
seeable by the DHCP clients by their netbios name, and you will need to
make sure you set-up the router as your gateway for the Linux machines and
your ISP DNS server(s) for DNS. HOSTS and LMHOSTS files only need to be
created once and then copied to all machines as needed, so this isn't as
messy as it sounds for a small network.

Does this help any?

T



Well honestly theres just me using linux.  Its a dualboot machine.  Yes I 
see what you're getting at Slick, and I'm not sure it would be overkill to 
follow your advice.

Using a static address for now works so I'll see what happens  If/when I 
find another answer as to why this is the way it is, I shall post it.  Ty 
for the reply, quite an interesting way to do things.

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We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
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Re: [newbie] Weird Cron job problem

2002-12-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 07:38, Anthony Abby wrote:
 I've got a problem with a cron job that just seems so weird to me.  It
 has to do with fnews, which I loaded up yesterday...
 
 if I run '/usr/local/bin/fnews -f /root/news/fnewsgroups' from the
 terminal everything runs just fine fnews pulls my injects and passes
 them to my mailing list.  But if I try to run this all from cron I get
 the following error:
 

Have you checked WHO the job is running as? You might want to set the
owner as root.

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[newbie] finally going for it

2002-12-14 Per discussione walt








I have enough of mandrake 9.0 working to the point where I
can switch it to my main hard drive and just have winxp
on my smaller drive and use linux almost exclusively.
I do have to have some win programs and once I find comparable replacements, win
xp will go completely. I do have to get a new
motherboard though because this one will not let me install mandrake 9.0
without using an older kernel. I also can not use my agp
vid card for some reason. It has nothing to do with linux, it is the motherboard. I have the elitegroup k7vmm and it is junk!!! I have an AMD Duron
1.2 GHz processor. Any suggestions as to what I should get? I do not want any
built in video or sound or lan
LOL



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Re: [newbie] Linux installation Router Advice

2002-12-14 Per discussione Dennis Myers
On Saturday 14 December 2002 04:40 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 At 03:33 PM 12/14/2002 -0600, you wrote:
   Thx Anne.  However my experience has been... Odd.
  
   I went to install linux, everything went fine  I chose DHCP
   connection as I had always in the past.  The Router I use is acting as
   a DHCP Server after all, giving out addy's for our comps here.  Fine...
   Install went OK, it couldn't update packages but I expected that. 
   Rebooted into linux, it was fine.  No internet.  That was my first clue
   something was amiss.
  
   Fiddling with things with both the expert  novice controls I found out
   that I had to disable DHCP/Bootp  enable a static IP addy. WTH? 
   Makes no sense, and I had to put in gateway  DNS numbers (the routers
   IP sufficed here).  Yet in Winsucks it works fine as a DHCP Server!? 
   OK something is amiss... but what?
  
   -
   FemmeFatale
  
   Good Decisions You boss Made:
   We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
   character from Peanuts.
  
   - Source: Dilbert
 
 Sorry, I have lost track of this thread, but do you have both the DHCP
  server and client installed on your machine? Not sure but think you need
  both. (Oh, I get so confused, he,he.) Mostly it is somehymers. HTH
 --
 Dennis M.  linux user # 180842

 Sweety:

 I've never needed a DHCP CLient before... why the hell would I need one
 now?

 The router itself acts as the DHCP server so it serves up address like:
 192.168.1.100 or ... 1.101, etc...

 What I don't understand is why in winsux, it operates correctly as that
 DHCP server, yet Linux demands a static address from me, gateway  DNS
 numbers...?


 -
 FemmeFatale

 Good Decisions You boss Made:
 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

 - Source: Dilbert
Ok, sorry, like I said I was behind on the thread. What linux wants is the 
static IP of your computer the gateway address whether it is your gateway or 
the IPs gateway and the IPs DNS addresses.  So if you set up your internal 
computer with a 192.168.0.x type address then you should point it at the IP 
address such as 68.96.13.xxx and give it the IPs primary and secondary DNS 
numbers. Not real clear but the best explanation I can give. If you have that 
kind of configuration then I am at a loss as to the problem.
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Re: [newbie] v9.0 -out, v8.2 -back in... :-(, Small OT

2002-12-14 Per discussione Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 16:39, FemmeFatale wrote:
 At 12:33 PM 12/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 snipper with some hedge trimmers I have lying around
 
 
 
 It is somewhat likely that there may be some kind of motherboard bios
 faux pas that has been corrected since the mobo was released.  My best
 suggestion is to go to the Shuttle website and download the latest
 greatest bios for your mobo, and flash the bios. (under vanilla dos)
 It's possible that there may be a firmware incompatibility between 9.0
 and the mobo;
 
 
 You mention flashing an Nvidia card ... I have yet to figure out how to do so?!
 
 Wanna email me off list (or on, your choice ofc) about how to go about 
 this?  Mines a creative labs ( ya ya I know you hate em, so shoot me... and 
 btw suggest a diff frigging soundcard I can get thats compatible with most 
 of todays games? Hercules will no longer make sound cards which is what I 
 was planning to buy :( ) GeForce2.  So is my g/f's.
 
 Any advice?

Check ya mail...

:)

LX

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Re: [newbie] finally going for it

2002-12-14 Per discussione Dennis Myers
On Saturday 14 December 2002 05:19 pm, walt wrote:
 I have enough of mandrake 9.0 working to the point where I can switch it
 to my main hard drive and just have winxp on my smaller drive and use
 linux almost exclusively. I do have to have some win programs and once I
 find comparable replacements, win xp will go completely. I do have to
 get a new motherboard though because this one will not let me install
 mandrake 9.0 without using an older kernel. I also can not use my agp
 vid card for some reason. It has nothing to do with linux, it is the
 motherboard. I have the elitegroup k7vmm and it is junk!!!  I have an
 AMD Duron 1.2 GHz processor. Any suggestions as to what I should get? I
 do not want any built in video or sound or lan LOL

 walt
I have both a Soyo and a Gigabyte MB with 1.3ghz Duron and Athlon 1800+ 
respectively, and they both run well.  The Soyo is a K7VTA and the Gigabyte 
is a GA-7VRX no problems with 9.0 installation and they run like lightening 
compared to my old K6II processors.  Seems like Soyo and Gigabyte both get it 
right for AMD processors. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse Windowmaker

2002-12-14 Per discussione Angus Auld



- Original Message -
From: FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 14:28:04 -0700
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse  Windowmaker

 
 
 
 First off:
 
 Can't seem to run KDE LICQ from the KDE Start menu.  Haven't tried it from 
 a term yet so I don't know the error.
 
 Secondly, anyone try windowmaker yet?  I've never really given it a chance 
 but decided to see if it was different now.  It isn't much, but the Panel 
 you get doesn't come up  I get some strange error about it not being 
 installed?
 
 Always before in 8.2 my right mouse button was exactly that,my right mouse 
 button.  Now its my wheel button that needs to be pushed in, clicked as it 
 were, to operate as a mouse2 button.  ERM  OK I chose the right 
 mouse... M$ Intellimouse... anyone else with this troubling little 
 problem?  And I'm not sure if that just affects Enlightenment yet...  KDE 
 Seems to find my right mouse button fine... Unless I'm misinterpreting my 
 little experiments.
 
 
 -
 FemmeFatale
 
*
Hi Femme, as to your KDE LICQ issue, check to see if you have the licq-kde-1.2.0a-4mdk 
plugin installed. If I recall I had the same issue till I installed that plugin.

HTH. :-)

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9 firewall question

2002-12-14 Per discussione Andrei Raevsky
Hi Frank,

Thanks for your posting!  Could you be more specific please?  Why is this 
better than Mandrake's firewall?  Does it also use iptable or ipchains?

and also,

where can I get it (preferably in RPM format)?

(rpmfind does not have it)

Cheers and thanks,

Andrei



I suggest you forget the drake firewall stuff...

download and install gShield.. you will never look back.. its so easy to
configure and once it is, you don't have to touch a thing ever again.. and
its totally predictable.

rgds

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Re: [newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse Windowmaker

2002-12-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 11:23, Angus Auld wrote:

 *
 Hi Femme, as to your KDE LICQ issue, check to see if you have the 
licq-kde-1.2.0a-4mdk plugin installed. If I recall I had the same issue till I 
installed that plugin.
 
 HTH. :-)
 
 --Angus
 

...or you can use KOPETE - it's a multi-chat'er for KDE...works like a
charm and don't crash. MSN, Yahoo!, AOL/AIM, ICQ, Jabber,
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Re: [newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse Windowmaker

2002-12-14 Per discussione Angus Auld



- Original Message -
From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Dec 2002 11:25:39 +1100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse  Windowmaker

 On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 11:23, Angus Auld wrote:
 
  *
  Hi Femme, as to your KDE LICQ issue, check to see if you have the 
licq-kde-1.2.0a-4mdk plugin installed. If I recall I had the same issue till I 
installed that plugin.
  
  HTH. :-)
  
  --Angus
  
 
 ...or you can use KOPETE - it's a multi-chat'er for KDE...works like a
 charm and don't crash. MSN, Yahoo!, AOL/AIM, ICQ, Jabber,
 IRC...whatever...
 
**
I find that Gaim meets all of my multi-IM needs. I haven't experienced any problems 
with it. Nice program. KOPETE sounds interesting.

--Angus 

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Re: [newbie] Unexpected Installation Failure

2002-12-14 Per discussione Greg
I have the same cpu and 8.1 ,8.2 and 9.0 worked jst fine
Greg
Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 01:05:07 -0500
Bryan Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a K62-500 system on which I have installed several different 
 Linux distros in the past (versions of SuSE and Mandrake). I had 
 Mandrake 8.2 in the house and decided to put it on this system. The 
 installer behaved very oddly when it reached package selection, and 
 ultimately it did not work. I decided, OK, let's try SuSE 8.1. Same 
 thing. Once it hit package selection, it failed.
 
 A little web searching seemed to indicate these later versions don't 
 even work with K62. Mandrake had a patch on their site, but I could not 
 get it to work even with the patch. Reading the SuSE box, I found in 
 the hardware requirements, for AMD it only lists Duron, Athlon, Athlon 
 XP and Athlon MP.  The Mandrake site also said it would not work with 
 Pentium I.
 
 In this case I installed Mandrake 8.1, and it worked great.
 
 I guess a K62 500 MHz is not very modern, but I would hardly consider it 
 obsolete. It has plenty of pep for use in the office. Linux used to 
 have an advantage for working with older hardware. It looks like that 
 advantage is being lost.

I have the same processor and had no problems with Mandrake 8.2 or 9.0 .

HTH,

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[Fwd: Re: [newbie] Problems with corrupt file system or partitiontable]

2002-12-14 Per discussione Graham


I was getting the same message on Mdk9.0 (d/l edition) after installing 
a Sony Microvault USB reader, in my case it turned out to be the 
/etc/fstab file was being overwritten. Took me a while to figure it out 
and one trick I tried worked like a charm. I booted in rescue mode from 
CD1 and then mounted the existing partions and then copied my backup 
fstab file to /etc.
The system rebooted fine apart from doing a filesystem check. No further 
probs since then

I'm not certain but I think that the perl script for drakeupdate -fstab 
overwrites the existing /etc/fstab file, I can't be sure but I managed 
to recreate the problem and the steps above fixed it.

HTH

Graham

John Richard Smith wrote:

Dennis Reynolds wrote:



I have a Pentium III with 2 small hard disks, and CD ROM and a CD RW
drives which I have recently loaded exclusively with MDK 9.0.

It has been interesting learning about Linux capabilities but now I
have fouled things up while attempting to activate a partition on the
second drive. This was being done in the course of  installing the
full turnkeylinuxaudio tarball.

Now when I boot (irrespective of whether I choose Linux, Floppy or
Failsafe) I get into a loop. The system boots as far as checking the
file systems although the option to boot interactively by typingI
doesn't seem to work. Then I get the error messages listed at the end
of this email. [My comments are in {curly} brackets.

If I insert the MDK9 installation disk 1 in an attempt to reinstall,
the CD Rom fails to fire up properly and I simply end up going round
the loop again.

I would be very grateful for advice on what to do. As there is no
valuable data on the system I have no problem with a solution which
wipes the lot and starts afresh.

TIA

ERROR MESSAGES RECEIVED DURING THE BOOT PROCESS.
Your system appears to have shut down uncleanly
Press Y within 1 seconds to force file system integrity check...

Checking root file system
/dev/hda1: clean, 138141/586368 files, 504642/1170297 blocks  [OK]
Remounting root file system in read-write mode:  [OK]
Activating swap partitions:  [OK]
Finding module dependencies: [OK]
Loading sound module(sb):   [OK]  Checking filesystems
/dev/hda6: clean, 4350/170720 files, 280812/341373 blocks
/dev/hdb1: The filesytem size (according to the superblock) is 202600
blocks
The physical size of the device is 184456 blocks
Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!

/dev/hdb1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
(i.e., without  -a or -p options)
Failed to check file system. Do you want to repair the errors? (Y/N)
(beware you can lose data)
y {my input)
e2fsck 1.27ea (14 Mar 2002)
/dev/hda6: clean, 4350/170720 files, 280812/341373 blocks
The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 202600 blocks
Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!
Abort? yes {There isn't actually a choice it aborts automatically}
[FAILED]

*** An error occurred during the file system check.
*** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot
*** when you leave the shell.
Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D for normal startup):
{at this point I can't type anything but Control D achieves a reboot} 
to go through the same cycle again.}

Dennis Reynolds

 


 

I think possibly , 
while attempting to activate a partition on the
second drive. This was being done in the course of  installing the
full turnkeylinuxaudio tarball.

is the clue here.

Although you have two harddrives, the system looks on them both as one,
and as such you can only have one Active partition.It seems to me
that you have effectively altered the active partition while
attempting to install the abovementioned package.This has the effect
of making the partition table corrupt.

If I am right what you have to do is remake the old partition active

The question is how.

First try M cd1 disc and at the splash screen hit f1 which
has the effect of running you to a terminal, and from there choose 
rescue and see whether you can get to fdisk, and
then use that to remake the original partition active, or just
wipe everything out and start again.

An alternative, if you have an old w98 boot disc run it
to the A prompt and type fdisk and use it to remake the
active partition, you have to cancel the current active
partition first.

I'm not absolutely cetain about this so proceed with caution
but maybe you don't have that much to loose.

John





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Re: [newbie] finally going for it

2002-12-14 Per discussione kjc





Congrats. IMHO. A linux desktop is much, much nice than a Win desktop. 
In any event. I would spend a little extra money and buy a ASUS MB. I've
had mine for a year.
And, have had zero compatability problems with ANY OS that i have tinkered
with.
As far a video cards. I would stick with NVidia. 

walt wrote:
   
  
   
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
  

  

  I have enough of mandrake 9.0
working to the point where I can switch it to my main hard drive and just
have winxp on my smaller drive and use linux almost exclusively. I do have to have some win
programs and once I find comparable replacements, win xp will go completely. I do have to get a new motherboard
though because this one will not let me install mandrake 9.0 without using
an older kernel. I also can not use my agp vid card for some reason. It has nothing to do with
  linux, it is the motherboard. I have the elitegroup k7vmm and it is junk!!! I
have an AMD Duron 1.2 GHz processor. Any suggestions
as to what I should get? I do not want any built in video or sound or lan LOL
  
  
  
  walt
  
  





Re: [newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse Windowmaker

2002-12-14 Per discussione FemmeFatale
At 09:42 PM 12/14/2002 -0300, you wrote:




- Original Message -
From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Dec 2002 11:25:39 +1100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse  Windowmaker

 On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 11:23, Angus Auld wrote:

  *
  Hi Femme, as to your KDE LICQ issue, check to see if you have the 
licq-kde-1.2.0a-4mdk plugin installed. If I recall I had the same issue 
till I installed that plugin.
 
  HTH. :-)
 
  --Angus
 

 ...or you can use KOPETE - it's a multi-chat'er for KDE...works like a
 charm and don't crash. MSN, Yahoo!, AOL/AIM, ICQ, Jabber,
 IRC...whatever...

**
I find that Gaim meets all of my multi-IM needs. I haven't experienced any 
problems with it. Nice program. KOPETE sounds interesting.

--Angus


Does GAIM just work for AIM .. and if not what else does it support/work 
for?  Thx.

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Re: [newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse Windowmaker

2002-12-14 Per discussione FemmeFatale
At 09:23 PM 12/14/2002 -0300, you wrote:




- Original Message -
From: FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 14:28:04 -0700
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse  Windowmaker




 First off:

 Can't seem to run KDE LICQ from the KDE Start menu.  Haven't tried it from
 a term yet so I don't know the error.

 Secondly, anyone try windowmaker yet?  I've never really given it a chance
 but decided to see if it was different now.  It isn't much, but the Panel
 you get doesn't come up  I get some strange error about it not being
 installed?

 Always before in 8.2 my right mouse button was exactly that,my right mouse
 button.  Now its my wheel button that needs to be pushed in, clicked as it
 were, to operate as a mouse2 button.  ERM  OK I chose the right
 mouse... M$ Intellimouse... anyone else with this troubling little
 problem?  And I'm not sure if that just affects Enlightenment yet...  KDE
 Seems to find my right mouse button fine... Unless I'm misinterpreting my
 little experiments.


 -
 FemmeFatale

*
Hi Femme, as to your KDE LICQ issue, check to see if you have the 
licq-kde-1.2.0a-4mdk plugin installed. If I recall I had the same issue 
till I installed that plugin.

HTH. :-)

--Angus



Thx, if its on the CD i'll look for it.  Hopefully I can find it easily if 
its not already installed.  Do I just install it like any rpm then?

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We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9 firewall question

2002-12-14 Per discussione Dennis Myers
On Saturday 14 December 2002 06:25 pm, Andrei Raevsky wrote:
 Hi Frank,

 Thanks for your posting!  Could you be more specific please?  Why is this
 better than Mandrake's firewall?  Does it also use iptable or ipchains?

 and also,

 where can I get it (preferably in RPM format)?

 (rpmfind does not have it)

 Cheers and thanks,

 Andrei

 I suggest you forget the drake firewall stuff...
 
 download and install gShield.. you will never look back.. its so easy to
 configure and once it is, you don't have to touch a thing ever again.. and
 its totally predictable.
 
 rgds
 
 Frank

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Don't see an RPM format but here is the home page   
http://muse.linuxmafia.org/gshield.html 
and it gives download sites with tgz files.  Also Tucows has it and 
sourceforge. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Have you got your LM90 preorders?

2002-12-14 Per discussione Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Hi Dale, 

Dale Huckeby wrote:
 
 On 13 Dec 2002, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
  Is there anybody on this list that has NOT recieved their LM90
  preorders?  Besides me?
 
  I ordered three sets of technical manuals in October and I have not seen
  them yet.  Anybody else going thru this?
I pre ordered my PowerPack set on the 8/11/2002 and have also received
the email of being able to track it. I was also initially caught by the
French on the tracking page but after I clicked on the British flag the
language changed on the page to English. If the package does not get to
me in South Africa by the 31/12/2002, I have spoken to my credit card
company and will be able to reverse the payment to them, not that I want
to but still I feel no goods=no pay.

HiH

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[newbie] Workgroups in linux?

2002-12-14 Per discussione Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Have sort of sorted out a dual PC, 1 dual boot linux and Win and the
other linux, connection problems.

Both are networked together and provided I am using linux on both
machines I get positive feedback from the ping command. On checking the
hostname on both machines I can confirm there are no errors there.

However if the dualboot system is booted into Win95 and the other box
into linux I then cannot access the Windows hard drive.

I am thinking that as they both have the same subnet and IP's are
192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 perhaps the workgroup 'feature' on Windows
is playing a role. How do I configure/view the workgroup under linux?

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Re: [newbie] finally going for it

2002-12-14 Per discussione Pilagá
El Sáb 14 Dic 2002 20:59, Dennis Myers escribió:
 I have both a Soyo and a Gigabyte MB with 1.3ghz Duron and Athlon 1800+
 respectively, and they both run well.  The Soyo is a K7VTA and the Gigabyte
 is a GA-7VRX no problems with 9.0 installation and they run like lightening
 compared to my old K6II processors.  Seems like Soyo and Gigabyte both get
 it right for AMD processors. HTH

Hola, Dennis. What graphic card do you have in your K7VTA?

Saludos.

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Re: [newbie] finally going for it

2002-12-14 Per discussione Dennis Myers
On Saturday 14 December 2002 08:56 pm, Pilagá wrote:
 El Sáb 14 Dic 2002 20:59, Dennis Myers escribió:
  I have both a Soyo and a Gigabyte MB with 1.3ghz Duron and Athlon 1800+
  respectively, and they both run well.  The Soyo is a K7VTA and the
  Gigabyte is a GA-7VRX no problems with 9.0 installation and they run like
  lightening compared to my old K6II processors.  Seems like Soyo and
  Gigabyte both get it right for AMD processors. HTH

 Hola, Dennis. What graphic card do you have in your K7VTA?

   Saludos.

Have an Nvidia GeForce 2 MX400, runs very well using the .src.rpm I can play 
UT2003 with no jerkiness, Oh, and the box Power Pack set of ML9.0 has the 
commercial drivers available during install. I believe they are a good card 
except for not being gpl'd. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Workgroups in linux?

2002-12-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 02:15, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
 Have sort of sorted out a dual PC, 1 dual boot linux and Win and the
 other linux, connection problems.
 
 Both are networked together and provided I am using linux on both
 machines I get positive feedback from the ping command. On checking the
 hostname on both machines I can confirm there are no errors there.
 
 However if the dualboot system is booted into Win95 and the other box
 into linux I then cannot access the Windows hard drive.
 
 I am thinking that as they both have the same subnet and IP's are
 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 perhaps the workgroup 'feature' on Windows
 is playing a role. How do I configure/view the workgroup under linux?
 
 -- 
 ===
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 Licenced Windows user
 Using Linux Mandrake 8.0, KDE 2.1.1 on a 2.4.3-20mdk#1 kernel
 ===

You can use SAMBA to configure a workgroup under linux - the actual
config file lives in /etc/samba/smb.conf   - so you can manually edit
the file and set it up the way you want, or you can use Webmin to do the
configuration via Webmin and SWAT. It works like a charm once you get it
up running - you can configure the linux box as either another peer on
the workgroup, or you can actually use Samba to act as if it's an NT
domain controller...very powerful...

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Re: [newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse Windowmaker

2002-12-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 11:42, Angus Auld wrote:

 I find that Gaim meets all of my multi-IM needs. I haven't experienced any problems 
with it. Nice program. KOPETE sounds interesting.
 
 --Angus 

I like GAIM under Gnome (cuz you can dock it in the panel) and Kopete
under everything else (Enlightenment, WindowMaker, AfterStep, XFCE,
Fluxbox, Oroborus, Rox, KDE, amiwm and mlvwm)

But, ya know, GnomeICU does it's job, too - but only for ICQ...too bad
we don't have Trillian for linux...

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Re: [newbie] finally going for it

2002-12-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 12:24, kjc wrote:
 Congrats. IMHO. A linux desktop is much, much nice than a Win desktop.
 In any event. I would spend a little extra money and buy a ASUS MB.
 I've had mine for a year.
 And, have had zero compatability problems with ANY OS that i have
 tinkered with.
 As far a video cards. I would stick with NVidia. 
 

Asus and nVidia rock. Solid as a rock. Rock'n'roll. As dependable as a
southern preacher preachin' bout hellfire. Works as hard as an ambulance
chaser and stays cool as a cucumber.

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Re: [newbie] Some odd errors with LICQ, Mouse Windowmaker

2002-12-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 13:49, FemmeFatale wrote:

 Thx, if its on the CD i'll look for it.  Hopefully I can find it easily if 
 its not already installed.  Do I just install it like any rpm then?
 
 -
 FemmeFatale

It is on the CD(s), but you're going to have to install gcc9, recompile
the kernel or install the 2.6.87 kernel, get a
multi-USB-to-PS/2-back-to-serial converter with smart card capabilities,
a quantum flux converter, two warp coils, and a plasma venting
capitulator with multi capacitor inversion flux component. After
compiling the code, you have to pipe it through the quantum flux
converter prior to adding some ATS code.

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[newbie] looking for easy, cheap, way to share files,cable connection between two boxes

2002-12-14 Per discussione joe


I was thinking of either a plain old hub (don't have the money for a
router), or another NIC. Next most important consideration is ease of
use, for a newb like me. Will be using either mdk 7 or 8.2 on one box
(old pentium) and 9.0/XP on the other. TIA for any suggestions, words of
wisdom.  Joe.



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Re: [newbie] Linux installation Router Advice

2002-12-14 Per discussione Carl J. Bauman
I know I'm coming into this thread a little late but I thought I'd throw 
my $.02 in anyway.  I'm running 9.0 behind a Linksys router that's 
operating as a DHCP server and I'm not having any problems accessing the 
internet at all.  But then, I also have  dhcpcd version 1.3.22pl1-3mdk 
installed.  The description from the rpm is as follows:

dhcpcd is an implementation of the DHCP client specified in 
draft-ietf-dhc-dhcp-09 (when -r option is not speci- fied) and RFC1541 
(when -r option is specified). It gets the host information (IP address, 
netmask, broad- cast address, etc.) from a DHCP server and configures 
the network interface of the machine on which it is running. It also 
tries to renew the lease time according to RFC1541 or 
draft-ietf-dhc-dhcp-09. 

From that description it seems clear that I need a DHCP client if I'm 
expecting to receive and use a dynamic IP from a DHCP server. 
Personally, I think you probably would too but it's up to you.  ;-)

Regards,
Carl

FemmeFatale wrote:


I've never needed a DHCP CLient before... why the hell would I need 
one now?

The router itself acts as the DHCP server so it serves up address 
like: 192.168.1.100 or ... 1.101, etc...





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Re: [newbie] looking for easy, cheap, way to share files, cableconnection between two boxes

2002-12-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 16:01, joe wrote:
 I was thinking of either a plain old hub (don't have the money for a
 router), or another NIC. Next most important consideration is ease of
 use, for a newb like me. Will be using either mdk 7 or 8.2 on one box
 (old pentium) and 9.0/XP on the other. TIA for any suggestions, words of
 wisdom.  Joe.
 

1 x Crossover cable to go from the linux box's NIC to the XP box's NIC;
use SAMBA to configure a workgroup. Setup a mail server, ftp server, web
server on the linux box as well. Connect printers to the linux box.
Share printers on linux box with XP via Samba and Windows smb protocols.

It's easier than you think - and if you're going to dive into linux,
might as well go for it. 

BTW, use the linux box as your internet connection sharing box with
the XP box so that you have the best available firewalling and routing.
You can also setup fetchmail to gather all your outside email to live on
your linux box, and setup the client on the XP box to grab mail from the
linux box. Less hassle.

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It should be fixed, but it won't be easy and it won't be fast. If you want
to help - wonderful. But keep in mind that it will take months of wading
through the ugliest code we have in the tree. If you've got a weak stomach -
stay out. I've been there and it's not a nice place.

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