Re: [newbie] Great MP3player
Actually XMMS does play CD's. Just put in the CD and then go to /mnt/cdrom. You'll find all the tracks there ready to play. I use XMMS (included on the 7.1 cd) for MP3's. It is the next generation X-amp (yes, there is something like winamp out there too). It uses the same skins and such, and is great. It does not do CD's though. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] Multiple Idenities Email
Is there an email client and/or work around to kmail's lack of multiple idenities? The client would have to be GUI based. Right now the only workaround I see is to create some more users and have their only purpose being to collect mail for me. That or change my idenity in the settings whenever I send out an email. So is there an email client (other than Netscape) that'll let me do this? Or am I going to have to wait till the next major release of Kmail comes out (which will support multiple idenities)? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Linksys LNE100TX Nic under Mandrake 7.1
All I can say is that I have that card and it works just fine for me. No configuration needed or anything. I have a dual boot system running Win98 and Linux. Recently, I upgraded my network card to a Linksys LNE100TX(ver. 4) and then upgraded from SuSE Linux 6.4 to Mandrake 7.1. Neither version of Linux will install my network card. Checking PCI devices shows an Ethernet card present but the vendor is unknown. I've tried all the tricks: compiling the latest tulip driver (I get a ton of errors), changing network settings, changing BIOS settings, etc. No luck. Has anyone had any luck with this card? I have scanned all the support pages and news groups I can find, but to no avail. They all mention compiling the driver, but I can't seem to make that work. Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Mike Valley -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] compiled kernel
You might need to install the kernel sources. You can find them on the installation CD in .rpm format. You do have the right directory however. In which directory is the Linux kernel compiled? I am tryin to give the command 'make menuconfig' or 'make xconfig' in the directory /usr/src/linux but it gave me an error: no target to make menuconfig. I assume that I'm in the wrong directory. Would appreciate your help. Thanks, edison -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Text v. HTML messages on this list
I wouldn't normally care, except that since kmail doesn't read html, I'd rather not read html encoded messages. Besides, how much does HTML really help express yourself? IMPORTANT _words_ *can* be conveyed without use of a bold tag, and do we really need multicolored text? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] E-APPLETS!!!!
See if this works. Close all those apps and then log out. When you log out, make sure you check the "Save Current Setup" button in the dialog box that comes up asking you for logout conformation. That *should* do the trick. I'm running Gnome w/Enlightment as my window manager, and the first time i loaded enlightment, i opened up some e-applets. Now it seems, everytime i login, it spawns 5 copies of like 6 different e-applets I have to kill like 40 processes to get rid of them all. I checked my startup programs, and there was nothing listed. What loads all the e-applets?!?!? Thanks, Jon -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] X 4.0 and imwheel not allowing ZAxisMapping !!
http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/wwwboard/messages/397.html will help you out. I tried to insert into XF86Config the following statement to get my wheelmouse to work ZAxisMapping 4 5 X won't startup - it says that the above is an illegal statement, or somewthing like that..It worked fine in X 3.5 and other versions Any Ideas? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Registered Linux User??
It's the Linux registry. Since you can get Linux very easily without being tracked, some guys setup a registration service to more accuratly count how many people use Linux. Unfortunatly most people don't know about it, so the amount of officially registered users are small. But he also calculates teh estimated amounts using guesswork, which produces much more hopeful numbers. Anyway, the URL for all this is http://counter.li.org Hi! I know this may be off topic but I see people with signatures that have a "RegisteredLinux User number" Whats that? And can I register too? I may still be a newbie but Im getting there! =)JOhn )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Access DOS files from LINUX
You just need to mount the harddrive under Linux. Type "mount -t vfat /dev/hda3 /mnt/disk" assuming your E drive is hda3. Then the files you want will be in /mnt/disk. I do not know how to get the files I downloaded (to my E:\linux folder to copy them to the root so that I can proceed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am sure there is some simple command but I do not know what it is. This has to be done from the command line. xfree86 and all other GUIs do not exist on my system. I am trying to add them. the files I wish to copy are the xfree rpms. TIA -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?
I have been lurking and have noticed that many people have had trouble with installing V7.1. I am not talking about burning CDs, etc, but rather with the actual installation. I just ordered 7.1 and the CDs should be here shortly. Question is, is it okay. Seems like some have been having trouble with either X config, or not picking up something, or mouse problems, etc. People will always have problems installing a distro. I've been lucky, I've never had a major unfixable problem during the install. But I'm helping a friend of mine trying to install 6.1 and he's having all sorts of trouble. It just varies by the machine. Also, there was talk of problems with freeX86 V4, versus the established version. The first time I tried it, it worked fine except for the mouse wheel. I eventually found out how to get the mouse wheel to work, but by that time I was stuck in 3.3.6. And then when I finally figured out how to get back to X 4.0, the resolution was all screwed up and none of the X tools seemed to affect 4.0. The second time I installed, 4.0 came up with too high a resolution again, and now I couldn't get back to 3.3.6. So finally I just said screw it and went with 3.3.6. Basically, if your card is supported under 3.3.6, then go with 3.3.6. Should I install it over 7.0 (which is very well setup for me presently), or just do a fresh install? Apparently there has been problems with installs taking forever (12 hours +) if you decide to upgrade. So I'd suggest a fresh install. Any thoughts from those who have installed it? Thanks, Gary -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] adaptec scsi
I have SCSI working fine on my Adaptec 7890. Detected my devices and I can use them and everything. Seems like a big problem with how popular SCSI is with old time UNIX people. This was not a problem with Mandrake 6.0, 6.5 or 7.0. I always down load a iso file and burn my own CD prior to purchasing a full copy. I won't be buying if it won't work on my system(s). I would think someone needs to get this fixed. I reported this as a bug but still don't see it show up on any of the bug lists. Does anyone know when/if a reported bug will show up? I don't see vary many bugs showing up on ver.7.1 yet but I don't know how long it really takes for them to show. "Eric A. Cottrell" wrote: "Joe St.Clair - KSI Machine Engineering" wrote: I am having no luck getting Mandrake 7.1 to install with any Adaptect controller. I have tried a 1542, 1542cf and 2940. All seem to find the card but won't hit the devices connected to the card. This is keeping me from getting 7.1 to install. This problem didn't exist with 7.0. Mike Tracy Holt wrote: Hello, I got 7.1 to install on a 2940 if I did not choose expert mode. It appears to me that the 7.1 install breaks after it asks you what scsi card you are using. In my case it could not mount the cd. If it auto-probes and finds it then no problem. The 1542 cards will not work because it does not automatically detect the 1542 cards. 73 Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] WB1HBU -- Joe St.Clair - KSI Machine Engineering -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] kmail password
You don't have to delete a file. Just go to File-Settings-Network and then click on your account. Then click "Modify". From there you can change the password or erase it altogether. for some reason, even though I have my pop password inserted correctly...kmail won't recognise it. What is the folder/directory it is kept inso I can delete it...and start over...? -- -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] mkinitrd
I'm trying to upgrade my kernel through rpm's (since compiling from source hasn't worked) and so I'm following the guide from Mandrakeuser.org http://www.mandrakeuser.org/install/kupgrade2.html Anyways, I come to the part where it says to make a new initrd image, but when I type in the command it lists (mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.2.16-9mdk 2.2.16-9mdk) I get this error: mke2fs 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09 mount: Could not find any loop device, and, according to /proc/devices, this kernel does not know about the loop device. (If so, then recompile or `insmod loop.o'.) Can't get a loopback device It's not critical that I need SCSI support, but one of my harddrives (non Linux HD) is SCSI, and so is my CD-burner. This has happened on all my previous attempts with compiling kernels, but I had always figured I screwed up somewhere and that's why it gave me the error. But even now with rpm's I get it. So how do I get mkinitrd to work for me? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Shutting down X
The only way I know how to get totally out of X is to never start it. At the LILO prompt, type "linux 3" and it'll just dump you at the command prompt. I also wish there was an easier way to totally kill X. The easiest way is to press "Ctrl+Alt+Fx" where x is 1-6. The Mandrake doesn't have the option to run in console mode when you wish it by pressing SHUTDOWN from the login, whereas other (Caldera for example) do. I don't know if there is a way to enable this option somehow. If anyone knows, please post it out... From: Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Shutting down X Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 11:12:55 -0400 I have a dumb questionI need to run in command line mode and can't seem to get there. Can anyone tell me how to shut down X and get to the command line? thanks Jim -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] mouse problem
Yes, that mouse works just fine. i read that mandrake can use almost any mouse, but i have a microsoft intellimouse,can linux also use that mouse? i dont know if they could make it only used on windows, since they also have the winmodem, which unfortunately i also have, and i hear cant be used on anything but windows. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
RE: [newbie] mouse problem
http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/wwwboard/messages/397.html XFree 4.0 has support for that type of mouse... check XFree's web site... However, I still cannot make my wheel to work under Xfree 4 -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Cable Modem Blues
Ask them if you have a static IP or get your IP through DCHP. Hello Collective, I survived my first disk partitioning and the instilation of a non-windows os but am left with a cable modem that now serves as a paper weight. I have no clue where to get info on how to establish a connection with my comcast@home service and seek the wisdom (and patience) of you - the knowledgable masses. Before I can even ask a good question I need to know what I am asking so: What information will I need to have before I can attempt to get the modem up-and running, and once I have that info- where is a good place to learn what to do with the info. The cable company COMCAST will "only answer specific question but not help use the answers" I need to know what "specific questions" I need to ask them. I am using a dell dimension xpsr350 PII. the modem is a Toshiba PCX1100. it is external, and IF i am reading the system report correctly the network card is a SMC EZ Card PCI 10 Adapter. Lothar tells me that everthing is configured fine, but I can't seem to find the place, dialague box or whatever where I would establish a connection to the internet service Thanks in advance for the advice, and pleas help free me from my windows internet chain. -Eric -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] Huge Terminal Size
I'm having the wierdest problem. I was running Linux today like I normally do, and then all of the sudden when I'd open up a gnome-terminal, the size of the window was huge, as was the text. Normally, when I open one up, it takes up maybe 1/12 of the size of the screen. But now it fills about half the screen. The text is also about 3 times as big. This just happened, I didn't change anything or nothing like that. Just all of the sudden, I opened up a terminal and it was "big sized". I just rebooted to see if that might fix it, and it's still just as big. Does anyone know what happened or how I can get it back to a normal size? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Passing Permissions from 'root' to 'usr'
Copy /root/.kde to /home/your_user_name. "cp -r /root/.kde /home/user_name/". And then be sure to change all the permissions on those files so that you own them. "chown your_name *" and "chgrp your_name *". Might also need to copy /root/.kderc to your user directory. I would like to have my KDE virtual desktop in 'usr' look exactly like what I see when logged in as 'root'. Any ideas? Roman -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Xfree 4.0
Yep, I had the same problem. But over the course of 2 weeks I've figured out
how to fix it.
Go to /etc/X11/. In there, there will be a "file" named "X"
which is actually just a link to the 3.3.6 X server. So remove that symlink
("rm X") and then create a new X symlink, except that this one will point to
the 4.0 xserver ("ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 X") Now restart X, and you
*should* be back in X4.0.
And on to that topic, what do you use to configure X 4.0? None of the
configuration tools seem to work for X 4.0, and only end up making you go back
to 3.3.6.
One simple question...
I installed MKD 7.1 with XFree 4.0, and when I loaded XFDrake con configure
it, it installed version 3.3.16 and I cannot go back to 4.0...
Did ne1 had the same problem??
--
Anthony Huereca
http://m3000.1wh.com
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] libstdc++ missing?
Download the latest version: http://download.sourceforge.net/licq/licq-0.81-1.i386.rpm and then do "rpm -Uvh licq-0.81-1.i386.rpm" I want to install 0.81 licq...onto 7.0 can I do this? HOW Anthony Huereca wrote: You need to install libstdc++-devel too. I'm trying to install licq-0.81 on my newly installed 7.1 box. ./configure gets to the point of checking for vector.h, returns no, and tells me configure: error: You need to have the libstdc++ headers installed I go to rpmfind.net, pick up libstdc++-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm. rpm -i libstdc++-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm tells me package libstdc++-2.95.2-7mdk is already installed. Meaning it's there but licq can't find it. I've compiled several other things on this machine with no problems. Any hints? Thanks. - John -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. -- Registered Linux User:73821 ===KompuKit=== Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designer http://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer:http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M-F 6pm-12am,S+S 12pm-12am EST) ===KompuKit=== -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] libasound.so.o
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/contrib/libc6/i386/alsa-lib-0.3.1-1.i386.html Anyone know where I can find the file libasound.so.o. I need it in order to run GLHeretic. Thanks all! -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] junk
Look in the menu's and in /usr/bin to see what it all installed. And then to get rid of it, type "rpm -e the_program_name". okay, mandrake puts a lot of stuff on your computer when you install it. how do i find out what it has installed, and then how do i get rid of it if i don't want it? thanks jd -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Can't Boot Windblows
fdisk /mbr Hi people, I've just installed MDK7.1 onto the second hd and then I did reformat of the first hd - hda and then a complete restore of Windblows98 Now, Windblows won't boot (it just boots straight into Linux). I know Ive been here before with the same problem, but could somebody remind me of the Dos command I need to run to put things right? Thanks for your patience, Paul -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] libstdc++ missing?
You need to install libstdc++-devel too. I'm trying to install licq-0.81 on my newly installed 7.1 box. ./configure gets to the point of checking for vector.h, returns no, and tells me configure: error: You need to have the libstdc++ headers installed I go to rpmfind.net, pick up libstdc++-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm. rpm -i libstdc++-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm tells me package libstdc++-2.95.2-7mdk is already installed. Meaning it's there but licq can't find it. I've compiled several other things on this machine with no problems. Any hints? Thanks. - John -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] automount
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/admin/amount2.html can anybody explain me how to install and configure automount ? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] X help
Can someone who is running X4.0 please tell me what /etc/X11/X is symlinked to? Just type "ll /etc/X11/X". -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] How to delete link files?
Just remove the symbolic link. "rm the_symbolic_or_hard_link". Dear friends: This has been driving me crazy. If you create a link (symbolic or hard), e.g. # ln foo 1 foo2 How do you UNdo it? I've look in my Using Linux book and other books. No answer. Thanks so very much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] boot partition?
Put it on the first harddrive (/dev/hda) in the Master Boot Record Hello,am installing Linux Mandrake 7.1.I have two drives,one is Windows 98,second is for Linux.Where do I want to put the Lilo? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] How do I pull e mail off my server via pop?
I'm not sure what your problem is, but I can assure you that you do not need to install any kind of pop-server software. I use kmail just fine for my email needs. I am trying to pull the e mail off of my server with a pop client but it don't work. When I try to do it with Netscape it says something like it did nto work or some unhelpful idiotmessage, when I used imaginemail's pop e mail puller it said that the server was too slow and that can't be. Do I need to install a pop server software or something? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Extra Cds for 7.1
I think those are the extra CD's you get when you buy the "full" version at retail. Does anyone have any idea what and/or where the CD's labeled 3 and 4 are. During the installation of 7.1 they are listed, and also using Kpackage or RPMdrake to add additional packages they ask for one or the other CD. Thanks Eunice -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] downloads
http://www.krasu.ru/soft/chuchelo/ is very good. need a good download manager for linux...that will auto-resume broken downloads... where is one...I tried freshmeat...and tucows linux -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Install did not load Linuxconf (desktop icon)
You could just type "linuxconf" in a terminal and let it pop-up for you. You also might want to check the icon's properties (right click on it and select properties or something like that) and make sure it's executing Linuxconf. Also you might want to try running as root when you click on it. Greetings, group...I have a question about the recent install that I completed... My PC is a TP600, 300MHz, 96MB, 6.4GB, xircom cardbus (tulip_cb) 100+56k, and Linux Mandrake 7.02. Running pretty well, except the icon for the Linuxconf on the desktop is dead...Can't excecute it, nor does it show a process running when I attempt to run it (by clicking on it or executing it by command). I looked in the RPM list and it is loaded. I unloaded it and reloaded it with the CDROM, no change. I even tried upgrading (and restarting) from the web. I have access to the text version, and I am pretty comfortable with it, but I really like the graphical one. If anyone has a suggestion (other than be happy that it works!! ;) ), please let me know. Thanks in advance for your time and consideration, Steve Weltman -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] ReiserFS? how?
One drawback to it is that there aren't any tools for Windows to access it. I used to use Ghost 6.0 to backup my Linux partitions and unfortunately it doesn't see the reiserFS. Explore-ext2 doesn't work either, obviously. You mean you can view ext2 partitions from Windows using those programs? I had always head it was impossible. Where can I download them at? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Installing themes
I am still looking for answers in installing programs. When I install an RMPS package the application does not appear on my KDE menu. Do I have to manually install it and if so, how? Where does the program get installed? I saw nothing that led me to believe I could control where it gets installed. Programs don't always get put onto the KDE menu. Sometimes you're just going to have to run it from the command line. Open up a terminal window (should be one of the buttons down at the bottom taskbar) and then type in the program name you want. For instance, if you installed xmms-1.0.1-10mdk.rpm, then you'd type "xmms" (without the quotes) to run it. Also I am still receiving the error "Can only start executables on local disks." I am confused by this message as well. Whend do you get the message? What are you trying to do? When installing an application in TAR or GZ format, what file do I typically look for to install it? (ie, install.exe or setup.exe in Windows, What's the equivalent in Linux?) Sadly, installing in Linux still isn't quite that easy in most situations. The closest thing to a .exe is a .rpm. Read my explaination on .tar.gz's that I wrote in another post for more information on how to install those things. And lastly, I have several KDE themes I want to install in GZ format. Where do I copy them in order for them to appear in my Themes choices? Sorry if all this sounds to simple to ask about... http://kde.themes.org/php/docs.phtml?docid=21secid=3.2 explains how to do it. I am a Systems Analyst in the MS Windows world, but am brand new to Linux, but I like Linux better so far. Once I get past the learning curve I may use it exclusively... Yep, the learning curve is steep, but it's well worth it. Fred PS: What is one of the better email clients? I use Eudora Pro in Windows and would like something similar for Linux. Never used Eudora, but one of the best on Linux is Kmail. There are some newer ones in development that are supposed to be like MS Outlook (minus the security holes : ) but for the moment, Kmail is your best bet. Where are some of the better sites for obtaining Linux software on the web, http://freshmeat.net --has thousands of Linux programs. http://rpmfind.net --thousands of Linux rpm's. and for learning about Linux? Here's my Linux links: http://m3000.1wh.com/linux/links.html -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] What happerned to setup
Yep, for some reason Mandrake didn't include setup with 7.1. Fortunatly, you can download it from here: http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/redhat/6.2/i386/setuptool-1.2-5.i386.html I just reinstalled MDK 7.0 after a HD failure, and was trying to use "setup" from a command line to configure my Opti 82C929 sound card. I can't find "setup", what is the RPM, or file name to install/use "setup". TIA Jaguar The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation
XFree86 4.0 doesn't seem to be set up use a wheel mouse automatically, so you're going to have to edit the config file. http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/wwwboard/messages/397.html explains how to do it. Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 First, Mandrake refuses to recognize my mouse as Logitech MouseMan+, and instead keeps calling it a generic PS2. I've changed it in the mouseconfig in DrakConf, it's recognized correctly in Lothar, but I've got no support for the wheel(even as a third button). -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Quicktime 3 question...
You cannot view Quicktime movies in Linux because Apple hasn't made a player for Linux yet. So the only way you can view it is to boot up Windows. I just tried to view a Quicktime 3 (*.mov) file, and I can't. Not in Netscape, nor with the action /xanim combo that comes with Mandrake. Do I need a newer version of xanim, or is there something else I should be doing? Thanks! PS Boy, was this mailing list designed with people like me in mind or what? lol -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] overwrote LILO, can't access linux
Once you get your Linux file system up, as root, type "lilo". Hello, I had to re-install windows this evening. I had been using LILO to choose OS. Windows is on primary master (hda), Linux is on primary slave (hdb). LILO was set to use hda as the bootable partition. Anyway, now I cannot reach linux with my boot disk and partition magic doesn't see a bootable linux partition either. I made the classic newbie move here. I have full read write access to my linux file system thanks to a rescue CDrom. I just need to know which files to change so that I can get LILO going again. Does anyone know what those would be? I'm at a loss. I tried changing LILO.conf to point to hdb as the bootable which didn't work. I also tried hdb1 which is my /boot partition. No go. hdb5 is linux swap, hdb6 is / and hdb7 is /home. It seems that the windows installation proces overwrote the MBR of hdb because partition magic reports a small extended dos partition on that drive where there formerly were none. Its 2:30 am and thats what I know. Thanks for any help folks. Dacia __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] OT: free internet
Just go here: https://reg.freewwweb.com/cgi-bin/signup.cgi and signup. YOu don't need to talk to anyone. Art, The web site says to talk to one of the regional (distributors? I don't remember exactly). I sent an email to one in Maryland and never got a reply. Is the sign-up worth the hassle? I want to check a list of local phone numbers to be sure this is going to be a local call, otherwise it isn't worth doing. I don't have a good "first impression" though many on this list recommend them and use them. I'd like to get AOL out of my pocket, too. -Gary- In a message dated 6/5/2000 7:41:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: www.freewwweb.com seems to work very well. The home page is very simple and sets up a standard dialer or tells you what to put in your internet settings and mail settings. Art -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] How to switch between X 4.0 and X 3.3.6
I installed 7.1 using Expert mode, and elected to install X4.0 along with the usual X. It defaulted to X4 when I first booted up Linux. Unfortunatly the mouse wheel didn't work and in the process of trying to get it to work, 3.3.6 became the default. I think how I made 3.3.6 the default was when I ran DrakConf, and tried to run the Xconfigurator tool. It then asked for the install CD and it looked like that is when it installed 3.3.6. When I rebooted, the wheel worked, but I was in X 3.3.6. Anyway, the whole point of the above paragraph was to ask how I can switch back and forth between X 4.0 and X 3.3.6. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] How to switch between X 4.0 and X 3.3.6
Sorry if you get this twice. I never saw it on the main list though, and I'm really really wanting to know how to do this. I installed 7.1 using Expert mode, and elected to install X4.0 along with the usual X. It defaulted to X4 when I first booted up Linux. Unfortunatly the mouse wheel didn't work and in the process of trying to get it to work, 3.3.6 became the default. I think how I made 3.3.6 the default was when I ran DrakConf, and tried to run the Xconfigurator tool. It then asked for the install CD and it looked like that is when it installed 3.3.6. When I rebooted, the wheel worked, but I was in X 3.3.6. Anyway, the whole point of the above paragraph was to ask how I can switch back and forth between X 4.0 and X 3.3.6. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] 7.1/XF86Setup problem...
Hmmm, I just tried XF86Setup on my machine, and it segfaulted too.
Xconfigurator works fine though, try that.
I really don't want to have to sit through another reinstall tonight. I
have a perfectly operational command line environment. If I new which
package contained the file that has the error, I'd promptly download and
install it over what's there now.
I've already downloaded XF86Setup, VGA16, SVGA, and Server-common from
tux.org and RPM -Uvh --force'd them.
Anthony Huereca wrote:
I have a Diamond V550, and it works just fine for me. I installed from scratch
like you did, and even selected the same exact resolution and color depth. I
had originally started out with X 4.0; but I did something with it and now I
boot to X 3.3.6 (although I'm trying to get back to X 4.0). But 3.3.6 still
works just fine. I'm not sure what went wrong with X in your case. Maybe it was
a freak accident or something and reinstalling will magically work now.
I can supply an exact duplication of the error if needed, but I jotted
down the gist of it before rebooting to winderz.
Installing 7.1 did not bring up XF86 in the 1024x768x32 resolution I
asked for. It was maybe 800x600 (though more likely 640x480).
Ctrl-Alt-+ didn't fix this, it increased the virtual area instead.
I went to fire up XF86Setup and got a segfault.
The error was along these lines...
Something missing from a "SERVER" (the error made server all caps)
section and then three video chipsets and some line numbers were
listed...
... Trident TGUI 9660 (generic) (line 2513)
Trident TGUI 9680 (generic) (line 2519)
Trident Cyber 9320 (generic) (line 2537)
SSegmentation fault (Core dumped)
Originally, this was a Mandrake 7.0 being upgraded, but after an hour
futzing with that, I just moved everything to a "/backup" partition and
installed 7.1 from scratch. The results of all this work? Segmentation
fault (Core dumped).
The video card is a Diamond Viper V550 (Riva TNT chipset, 16MB, AGP).
My system is a K6-2/500 with 192MB. I had no problems at all with this
card in 6.1 or 7.0 (using the Riva 128 chipset selection since there was
no Riva TNT and still isn't AFAIK).
--
Digital Wokan
Tribal mage of the electronics age
Guerilla Linux Warrior
--
Anthony Huereca
http://m3000.1wh.com
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
--
Digital Wokan
Tribal mage of the electronics age
Guerilla Linux Warrior
--
Anthony Huereca
http://m3000.1wh.com
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] 9 hour upgrade!!
Did it install OK? It's definitly abnormal; it only took me about 45 minutes (and part of the problem was I picked the slowest server in the universe to download the crypt packages from) to install. hello people, i just upgraded mandrake 7.0 to 7.1 and it took me 9 hours (computer doing all the processing) and i have to ask what happen why did it take so long? i've installed/upgraded different version of linux all the way back from redhat5.1 - 6.2 and a few mandrake versions. it never even came close to this long, 30-75 min's tops can anyone give me any idea why it took this long? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Upgrade from 7.02 to 7.1?
I just finished upgrading. Two problems right now. First, "setup" is not installed. I'm not sure if this is my fault since I went through the expert install and picked all the packages (and just missed that one) or else if Mandrake got rid of it. I loved setup. Secondly, my mouse wheel no longer works. I have imwheel installed, and my wheel has worked in all previous versions, but for some reason it doesn't work anymore. Could it be because I'm running X 4.0? I'd appriciate it if anyone had any ideas on how to solve that problem, as it's almost annoying enough to go back to 7.0. Other than that, it's pretty nice. Harddrives are now mounted under /mnt/win_* instead of that nasty /mnt/DOS_*; and it seems to guess at the drive letter (so that /dev/hda1 is mounted under /mnt/win_c) The new Helix Gnome is in there (although I had already installed it under 7.0) And unfortunatly for you, it's enlightenment-0.16.3-11mdk Overall, I'd say it's a nice evolution of 7.0. Nothing too new, but just enhancements to current things. A job well done by Mandrake. Hi, Is there a smooth upgrade path from Mandrake 7.02 to version 7.1? Has anyone upgraded successfully? Also, does 7.1 include the newest release of Enlightenment (16.4)? Aaron -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] sorry for the dumb question what rpm is---
bind-utils You can get it from here: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/updates/6.1/RPMS/bind-utils-8.2.2P5-6mdk.i586.html what rpm is the application 'nslookup' located in? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] What are the fave picks for Learning Linux or Unix
The only book I have on Linux is "Linux Installation Getting Started. Version 3.2" by Matt Welsh. I got it with my first Linux distro (Mandrake 6.0) that I bought back in August. It taught me the basics of linux, and is fairly good. I got most of my Linux knowledge from the web though. I have a collection of links ( http://m3000.1wh.com/linux/links.html ) that I've used to learn more about Linux. Does any one have a favorite book for learning the Linux language? Or, would a "Learning Unix" book be sufficient? Roman -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Shutting down X
To get to command line mode, hit "alt+ctrl+f2". To get back to X, hit "alt+ctrl+f7" I have a dumb questionI need to run in command line mode and can't seem to get there. Can anyone tell me how to shut down X and get to the command line? thanks Jim -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] CD Writer: Which one?
I have a HP 9200i (SCSI 8x/4x/32x; it's basically the SCSI twin of the 9100i) drive, and I've had no problems with it and Linux. Well, let me take that back. For some reason I can't burn .exe's while in Linux. It might be the burning software (gcombust) or it may be something else. But all the .exe's I've burned in Linux come up as "invalid applications" in Windows. However it burns .exe's just fine in Windows; so it's probally not the drive. Hi folks, I've got to the stage where I'm going to buy myself a CD writer and Ive narrowed the choice down to 4 or 5(ish) possibilities due to local availability/price etc, namely: HP CD writer Plus 9310i, HP CD writer Plus 9110i, Creative Blaster CD Studio, Plextor PlexWriter SCSI, Acer 8432 (8MB buffer?) My question is basically twofold, 1) has anyone got any of these CD writers working Ok on MDK7 on an HP Pavilion 6425 (AMD K2 500 +64 RAM) or alternatively, 2) has anyone had problems with these writers? I suppose that there shouldn't be too much of a problem with the HP writers, but... Thanks in advance Paul -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Gnome problem
I've got to vouch for Gnome 1.2; it's very very nice. I installed it Tuesday, and it's much better than my old verision of Gnome, the one that came with 6.1. And the installation was really slick, I liked it. You just go here: http://www.helixcode.com/desktop/instructions.php3?distribution=gognomex=32y=26 follow the directions, and then up comes a nice GUI installer. It might take a while to download all those packages if you have a 56K or slower connection though, so I wouldn't really suggest upgrading in that case. But if you have broadband, then it's definitly worth it. Scott, don't know how to fix your problem but would strongly recommend upgrading to version 1.2. This will reinstall your gnome core files and should fix the TB problem. YOu can get it at www.helixcode.com or through RPM's at www.rpmfind.net Good luck. Wayne -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Shockwave -- OT ? Sorry
I'm all for it. While I personally hate most flash/shockwave because most of it is more flash than substance, I would really like it if it was supported; since some sites require it before they'll let you in or they might have some neat thing that requires shockwave. Hey out there everybody, just wondering if there is anyone out there who knows about shockwave and their inability to make linux software, well excepting flash, but I already have flash I just want to see if we can rock the boat a little (in the nicest way possible) with them so they will consider writing the interactive shockwave for linux? Anyone with me? My apologies if this is too off topic if so, please lets all do private group e mail and discuss it there. Thanx -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] quick kernel question
LM 6.0: 2.2.9 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/venusfeat.php3 LM 6.1: 2.2.13pre http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/heliosfeat.php3 Hi there, Quick question: I need to know exactly what kernel is in LM 6.0 and 6.1. Thanks, BG -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION Authomatic Install
I'd have it defaulted to "yes". The expert who doesn't like non-OS programs will know to check it, whereas the average person who doesn't care about how free it is probally won't even notice the checkbox. And then they'll be mad when they boot it up the first time and can't find a browser. Another suggestion is to have Sun's StarOffice (and maybe Netscape Communicator) as checkbuttons too. Some purists are offended by the idea of having a non-open source program in their systems, whereas others want both the free speech and the free beer. Since the default for the checkbutton is "no", this could be a nice compromise between the two crowds. Cheers, /J. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] passwd
It's put in there twice to make sure you typed in your password right. It would be really bad if you accidently mistyped your password when you created it, and had no way of knowing it till you found out you couldn't log in. On the command line when you type PASSWD username it request for the password twice. How could I control that in my script. It there another way or some switch that will not let it ask for this the second time? Thank in advance and keep up to the good work. Kofi Amu Maru a Pula School Gaborone -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [[newbie] Discussion: Changes Found in Mandrake 7.1
P.S. IMHO any newbie who downloads their first install of Linux instead of buying a documented package is truly nuts, and is asking for big problems, but this has nothing to do with the particular disto or version as it applies to them all. Heh, then I guess I'm certifiably nuts : ) I debated between gettting the packaged version or just a plain CD, and I went with the plain CD. I just got through by reading a whole whole lot (most of the manual is online, and I bought a small Linux book along with the CD), and reinstalling a whole lot after I'd screw up. But I did eventually get it right, and I've been running this same "version" for about 5 months now. It was definitly a learning experiance, and if I had to do it all over again, I'd probally still pick the CD since I've probally learned a lot more than I would have if I stuck with the packaged version. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] /usr/src/linux/
I've always liked this guide for recompiling the kernel: http://www.pcworld.com/heres_how/article/0,1400,13702,00.html Using it, I finally got my first kernel compilied. Reading all the info after unpacking it I editeda few files as instructed for my card and did a "make" however I get the reply /usr/src/linuxRules.make: no such file or directory No rule to make target /usr/src/linux/Rules.makeStop have you read /usr/src/linux/README.kernel-sources file ? everything is explained how to compile (and in this case you have forget to run a make dep before) your kernel. It then exists the file and leaves me with the prompt and none the happier. Anyone know what is going on and what this "/Rules.make" file is? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [[newbie] Discussion: Changes Found in Mandrake 7.1
Yep, a definite clone. It used to be called X11Amp (play off of *Win*Amp) but they changed the name for some reason. Isn't XMMS a Winamp clone. I have it in 7.o (air) ie. not unique to 7.1. =michael= -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] What happend to Print Screen?
I'm not sure why Print Screen doesn't work in Linux, but you can use ksnapshot to take a quick image, or use the Gimp. In the Gimp it's under Xtns-Screen Shot At times, it is easier to email(privately) a print screen of what you are seeing. Is there another way of adding an attachment? I used the Print Screen button but it no longer works with Paint. Was this for Windows only? How do I go about it? Any thoughts? Roman -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION: Libaries
Wow, a company that actually listens to it's users! Amazing! The most important thing I can think of is to include all the programming libaries even in a standard installation. For while these people probally won't ever program, they will have to compile stuff and it's a huge headache to track down a missing libary or two. So include all the development files that you'd include under a programming install, in all of the installations. It would make a lot of newbies (and me) very very happy. That's my main suggestion. And since you said you wanted a seperate email for each topic, there's more on the way. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION: Security
I don't have M7.0 yet, but I like the idea of the different security zones. One of the main complaints I've heard on this mailing list is lack of desciption of what the different zones actually do. So tell the user what exactly is happening when you select a certain level. Or maybe, have like a checklist, where the user can pick and choose what exactly they want to do. That would be cool. Keep it simple (like 5 levels) for the avearage person, but let the expert pick and choose. And include some sample firewalls or something like that. Somethign that would be useful to the average Dial-up (or cable modem in my case) person, who doesn't need a lot of exceptions like for a FTP or web server, but just needs a good regular firewall. That way the user doesn't have to figure out all the ipchaining rules and stuff; which at the moment totally loses me everytime I try to read through the how-to. Of course, maybe it's not a good security idea for a "one-size-fits-most" firewall, but it's just a thought I had. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Tools - GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION
One of the things you talked about was desiging new tools. One thing that would be neat to have, but I'm not sure how exactly you'd do it, is a .tar.gz uninstaller. Have a program that keeps track of where all the files go when you do "make install" and then have the program delete those files if the user doesn't want the program anymore. Or on that line of thought, maybe a program that'll automatically install a .tar.gz file. I relieze not all .tar.gz's follow the same pattern, but about 95% of them it is "tar -xzvf the_file.tar.gz; cd the_file; ./configure; make; make install". And while you could put that in a shell script, many newbies don't know how to do that. Heck, you could combine that with the uninstalling suggestion I had above and make into one program. Of course, for those .tar.gz's that don't follow the pattern, I'm not sure how you'd find out if they follow it or not, and if they don't, then what? But I like hte idea of a program that untars and installs .tar.gz's automaticaly for you. It confuses a lot of newbies, and I know it sure as heck confused me. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Installing Quake III on a Linux machine
Linux does not recognize .exe files. Do you own the Linux version of it? If not, then you're going to have to get the Linux version, as the Windows version will not work on Linux at all. How do I install Quake on a Linux box. I have the CD, but when I click the Setup.exe nothing happens. Help!!! Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Window manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)
I like Gnome w/ Enlighenment the best. I've tried them all at least once, and Gnome seems to be the best for me. Who uses which for what? It seems each of the "session types" ie. WindowMaker, After Step, Enlightenment,Gnome, KDE,etc has its proponents. I'd like to know what you guys think is the best . -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count
That's a normal occurence. It happens after you reboot a certain number of times. It's just done to make sure nothing is wrong with your filesystem. So don't worry about it if it comes up. During boot up this morning I saw a new message that said; /dev/hda5 has reached maximal mount count mount count check forced ??? What have I done to generate this 'mount count check'? After running through the mount count check all seems to be well and running smoothly, but I just want to know how I caused this and how I prevent it in the future. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] needed programs
hey didnt xmms use to be 'x11amp'? Yep. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
ny of the things you need to do, so reinstallation and configuring won't take near as long as it did the first time. You just got unlucky. Chalk it up as a learning experiance. And don't give up on Linux, it really is a great OS. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Browser of Choice
You're out of luck then. You can't change the option of what browser opens when you click a link in KMail. You're just going to have to copy the link and paste into a Netscape window. Thanks for the reply. I am using KMail. Will have to look into the other mailer you mentioned. Will do as you suggested with chmod, but your reply begs the question. What do I know about chmod, so it is off to man, chmod land. See you on the other side. :) On Sat, 13 May 2000, you wrote: On Fri, 12 May 2000, Bob wrote: When I clicka link in Mail Client the KFM file manager opens. A nice little browser, just can't access it from my desktop. What I would like is to be able to select Netscape as my browser of choice. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Netscape 6
How can I put an icon on the desktop to start Netscape 6 I'm not sure. Should I uninstall Netscape 4.72? This I know. No, you don't have to uninstall it. You can run N6 and N4.7 at the same time with no problems. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] netscape java problems
Perhaps you could be mroe specific on the problem Hi, anyone know how to fix this problem -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
RE: Re(4): [newbie] need KDE login screenshots....
That doesn't seem to be working for me. I hit altctrlf2 to switch to a new terminal, and then I login. Then when I type "startx -- :2" it gives me a list of the options, which I figure is because I never really give it an option with the space between the "-" and ":". So, I then tried "startx --:2", but then that gives me this: -- Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again. When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages Then it hangs, and I have to hit ctrlc to bring back the prompt. And no I do not have a ".XO-lock" file in /tmp. The same exact thing also happens with "startx --: 2" or "startx -- : 2" (notice the slight changes in spacing) if that would affect it any. I know I've gotten two X sessions going at once before, but apparently I didn't do it the way you instructed. startx -- :2 Good try though! -=Ron=- -Original Message- From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re(4): [newbie] need KDE login screenshots On Tue, 9 May 2000, Dave Lers wrote: I think when you log in on tty2, you can run a second X session by running startx : --2 or something along those lines. I saw the right syntax here once, but forgot to save it. Paul On Tue, 09 May 2000, Kirk McElhearn wrote: On 9/05/00, at 3:58, james [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ctrlaltF1 should do it Nope, that sent me to a text-only login, and after logging in, I could not startx So I had to play with it also. It looks like you can only have one incidence of X. Tried it got an error, went back to X and had no mouse. I've got to remember ctl alt backspace shuts down X (well almost, back to graphical login if that's where you started) and the use of tab and space got me around so I could restart X. )0(---)0( Don't be scared that the world will end today. It's already tomorrow in Tokyo! )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] installing acrobat reader
Type "tar -xzvf the_file_name.tar.gz". That should create a new directory that will contain further instructions on how to install Acrobat on your system. im a new user of linux and i want to install the acrobat reader, the extension name is something like "tar.gz" . i try to install this many times using kpakage but untill now no luck from me :-(...what will i do? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Sound Blaster And Mandrake 7.0
Open up a terminal, and type, as root, type "sndconfig". That'll install it for you. Hi, I'm a new Linux's user and I've installed Mandrake 7.0, but my system doesn't recognize my Sound Blaster AWE 64. How can I install it? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Xchat nick registration
Registering a nick just keeps other people from using your nickname. If don't register it, then nothing stops someone else from using your nickname. I just found Enlightenment! And then Xchat. What does it mean to register a nick? I was able to log on ok without ever having gone thru any type of registration process... -michael- -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
RE: [newbie] Hard drives
I don't see why it wouldn't. Any ol' harddrive ought to do. Does anybody know if MDK 7.0 supports Seagate hard drives? Thanks, BG -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] scsi drives
There is quite a performance difference between SCSI and IDE drives, it's just a matter of whether you'll be able to recognize it. If you copy lots of files back and forth, or deal with large amounts of data flowing through everyday, then you'll probally want SCSI. Or if you are a super power-user, and must have the absolute best, then you'd get SCSI. But for the average Joe, the price increase isnt' worth the performance increase for SCSI. And so long as your SCSI card is supported under Linux (you can check on Mandrakes webpage) then you should do just fine. I've had no problems with my SCSI drive. Hello, I'm getting ready to put together a new system and I'm considering using a scsi hard drive; can anybody tell me if there is much or any performance gain by doing this? I've seen quite a few posts on these lists about problems with scsi cards / scsi devices with Linux; is this normal or should I expect things to go smoothly? Thanks for any advise, Mike -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Mirc
Type "/nick nickserv register your_password your_email_address" Or if you need help, "/nickserv help". About this topic, please, I need some little help: does anybody know if can register a nick with KvIRC, X-Chat (I'm currently using both) or any other IRC desugned for Linux? I'll hate if I'll have to do it under Win... ;-) -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Quake
You can download it from ID's site. Or better yet, go to the store and buy the full copy. Then you'll be supporting Linux software, to maybe convince other software companies to start developing for Linux. rpmfind.net also has Quake I, and II rpms if you want those. How can i get quake for linux? I know it's s'posed to be a cool game- solitare ok klondike is getting boring. -michael- sitka,alaska -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] GCC...where are you???
You have to specifiy what files you want to compile. So the correct usage would be something like "gcc -o executable_name source_code_name.c" Or for your Hello World, "gcc -o helloworld helloworld.c". See "man gcc" for more info on all the options. when i type gcc in a terminal window i get gcc.colorgcc: No input files I would like to be able to use the Gnu C++ compiler for a course in c programming and don't know how to get the darn thing to cooperate to where i can even do a hello world! -- GIF87a¾ -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] LILO: The 1024-cylinder limit has been removed by a patch
First install Linux wherever you want. Don't worry about it being past the 1024 cylinder. BUt just make sure that during installation you make a boot disk. Then, after you finish installing, reboot and use that boot disk to get to Linux. Then once in Linux, install the new LILO. Can anyone advise, now with this patch, how to install a fresh version of Linux on a computer beyond the 1024th cylinder? How do we go about this? Many thanks SM Foo -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Bookmarks have changed on disk...
I tend to get those after Netscape crashes. Did Netscape crash on you? If so, then to fix it just log out and then log back in. I guess I am getting sick (and tired) or maybe just dizzy seeing this message appear in Netscape 4.7 every five or ten mintues for no reason at all. Any idea how to correct this annoying message! Thank you so much. Benjamin -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] Upgrading packages
I'm having a bit off a problem upgrading/installing some rpm files. Gnapster stopped working for me for some odd reason, so I was trying to get some other Linux ports for Napster. I found Gnome-Napster but it said I needed gnome-libs 1.0.53 and I have 1.0.14. So I went over to rpmfind.net to get the updated version. But when I tried to install that, it said that "gnome-libs = 1.0.14 is needed by gnome-libs-devel-1.0.14-1mdk" so I can't upgrade. And then trying to upgrade gnome-libs-devel says "gnome-libs = 1.0.58 is needed by gnome-libs-devel-1.0.58-1mdk". So i can't upgrade gnome-libs-devel until I upgrade gnome-libs. And I can't upgrade gnome-libs because my old version of gnome-libs-devel needs the old version of gnome-libs. So I'm in a Catch 22. How do I upgrade both gnome-libs and gnome-libs-devel? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Many questions (with apologies).
The other day, I gave up on Windows 98, and installed Linux-Mandrake 6.5, and let me say, first, that I LOVE it. It is SO much more stable! Glad you like it. Also, while the box says 6.5, it's acutally Mandrake 6.1. That said, onward . . . (1) I've no sound, except rare beeps from the main computer when I click on something I'm not supposed to click on. I can't hear anything at all from the speakers; Mandrake 6.1 doesn't configure sound during installation, so you'll have to configure yourself. However it's really easy. Open up a console, and type "su" to get to root. Then type "setup". You'll see an option for sound configuration, so run that. Now you can have sound. (2) How to get "out" of KDE into basic text=driven Linux to run command lines; On the taskbar there should be a button somewhere that runs xterm, a Linux terminal. Just click on all of them until something that looks like a DOS prompt comes up. You can also hit Alt+Ctrl+F2 to change to a full text-console. Hit Alt+Ctrl+F7 to get back to the GUI. (3) Gnome runs, but the keyboard dies in Gnome; No idea what's wrong. (4) how to decompress *.gz files, and install, because I wanted to upgrade my Netscape to a 128 bit encryption, and I don't know how; gunzip uncompresses it. So "gunzip the_file.gz". I'm pretty sure that's it. Also if i'ts a *.tar.gz file then its "tar -xvzf the_file.tar.gz" to uncompress and expand it. (5) how to work with WINE - I got WINE in a RPM format, ran it (via "root"), and it said it installed, but I couldn't find anything to click on, and never knew how to access it; (6) I tried to install gnucash and xaccount, and the OS called for libXm.so.1, libjpeg.so.6, and libXXm.so.2, which, upon research, I found out to be "Motif" files, not that I know what that is, of course (I don't); (7) I searched "Motif" and got a page about it that totally confused me, and by then I was bummed out big time; (8) how to access emulators, install DOS programs and run them via same, etc. Where are the DOS emulators? What are they called? I can't find them. Everything else I don't know. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Netscape 6 knows its name not
"And remember, it's spelled N-e-t-s-c-a-p-e, but it's pronounced 'Mozilla.'" --"famous" quote from Netscape documentations And in there lies your answer, type "mozilla" to start it. And make sure your in the directory that you installed N6 in when you type mozilla, otherwise you'll get an error. I tried installing Netscape 6 and went straight back to Netscape 472 because when I would either click my netscape icon, or type netscape or-- /usr/local/package/(name of binary) or whatever the whole path was, it still did not know its own name. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] LILO: The 1024-cylinder limit has been removed by a patch
Is it possible to upgrade LILO on a machine currently running the older version? Of course, that's how most geeks (read: Linux guru's) will upgrade. You can get it from here: http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1998/12/04/912827201.html if you're brave. If you're doing a fresh install of Mandrake, can the new LILO be substituted for the old one? I don't think it can be. However, if you want to set up a Linux distro beyond the 1024 limit, you can install it past that. Just make sure you make a boot disk during installation. Then, after you finish installing, use the boot disk to get to Linux. Then download and install the new LILO, and you're set. Regards, Nathan I was going to comment on this news too, I'm excited about it. Finally you can put Linux at the back of the drive with no worries at all. The 1024 limit also confused a lot of Newbies (including me) when they first heard about it, so now that won't be an issue anymore. I wonder if Mandrake will put it in 7.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= the webcam to end all webcams http://jennings.yi.org/webcam -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
RE: [newbie] Award BIOS problem
Not really on topic here, but about half the computers in my Computer Science class got hit by Chernobyl yesterday; including mine. Most people probally got it from sharing the pirated programs that students had put on there. Fortunatly I didn't have anything real important on my computer, so they only big loss is reinstalling Windows. And since I used Linux to view all the disks I had brought home from school, my computer at home wasn't infected. Thank goodness for Linux : ) I'm going to see if maybe I can't convince my CS teacher to let me install Linux on my computer, but I doubt it'll happen. Yesterday was the day that the dreaded Chernobyl and other variants activates. Apart from trashing your disk, some of its variants also wipe out your bios. Of course it runs only under winblows so this may explain why your computer booted up fine under linux but keeled over and died under windows. If this is the problem you MAY be able to get a new bios chip from either award or the motherboard manufacturer Hopefully this isn't the problem Cheers: and good luck... Michael Perry. RD. Dep. Netafim Magal. Linux -- the Ultimate Windows Service Pack -Original Message- From: pRiZnA [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thu 27 April 2000 13:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] Award BIOS problem Hi all, Yesterday I opened my system to see if I can disable my PnP modem somehow, I failed in that process, because it was a Winmodem (jumperless). however something happened, that just failed to boot my PC, I started linux first, it was OK, then I started Windows and it just said "updating system settings" and FROZE, when I hit the reset key, nothing appeared on the screen after that, no beeps, nothing I checked the CPU (Pentium II) and memory on another board (its OK), I'm now suspecting the BIOS chip (Award PCI/ISA 686), any suggestions. Thanks in advance pR!ZnA __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] LILO: The 1024-cylinder limit has been removed by a patch
I was going to comment on this news too, I'm excited about it. Finally you can put Linux at the back of the drive with no worries at all. The 1024 limit also confused a lot of Newbies (including me) when they first heard about it, so now that won't be an issue anymore. I wonder if Mandrake will put it in 7.1? Posted April 26 on Freshmeat.net is a patch LILO 0.21.4.2 with changes: 1024-cylinder limit has been removed by a patch that uses the EDD bios extensions and supports up to 2 TB disks. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Netscape
That's just normal Netscape behavior. You'll just have to deal with it until Mozilla (aka Netscape 6) becomes stable/fast enough for you to use as your main browser. Hi all. Wondering why Netscape never goes to my home page upon loading. It always seems to go to some sort of internal 'about' screen. I HAVE set the preferred home page in preferences. If I click anywhere on the 'about' screen, then it goes to the home page. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
RE: [newbie] (Newbie) Hydrogen
1. Mandrake supports DVD drives (so that they can function like a CD-ROM drive), but you have to use a seperate program to play DVD movies. And I don't think there is any DVD Software out for Linux, but I could be wrong. But if you want to play movies, check out www.opendvd.org for more info about the current Linux DVD situation. 2. I have no idea. I have a "old" creative drive that does just fine, but I'm not sure about it's Evilness factor : ) i'm after buying a DVD drive, 1: does 7.1 support dvd's 2: which dvd drive shouldn't i buy, eg bad ones or ones produced buy companies that give money to the us government ;-), put the patient on the fermentation of penicillin -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Compiling from source - guess I'm just not getting it...
Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. Just downloaded the Linux version of cthugha from the web - in tar.gz form - followed the installation instructions, and as usual, the program doesn't work - Can't seem to find the executable, when I do a Find Files in KDE for " cthugha* ", I don't find an executable that works - the closest thing I find is /usr/local/lib/cthugha-L, which I would assume by it's location is a library file - anyway, out of desperation, I tried running that file and got a segmentation error... This sort of thing happens every time I compile stuff from source - I guess I'm just not comprehending things here... I used to write c++ code in DOS, so this really shouldn't be such a problem for me - What am I missing -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] kmail
I don't think kmail has a limit on messages per folder, I have 1,174 right now in the Newbie folder that comes from this list. But I'm not sure why kmail and VMWare screwed up on you. I had a strange thing ahppen the other day and I'm not sure if it was kmail of if the vmware problem I was having caused it. Well first off I tried to use vmware and got it up and running but i think i filled up my linux partitions. The question I have is does kmail have a limit on msg's per folder? I noticed I had somewhere around 250 in the trash and after deleting a few more kmail went nuts and wouldnt do much of anything. At the same though vmware had messed up my box pretty bad. While rebooting I was dropped into a shell (I forgot to write down why) so as root I deleted every vmware file I could find, then rebooted and went into interactive start-up and didn't let vmware try to start. Then I edited the program startup thing and took vmware out. Unfortunately kmail lost all my saved mg's :( -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: Oops, text? Re: [newbie] OT-HTML
Yes, kmail uses plain text. Most of the HTML crap comes from Microsoft Outlook. Does my K-Mail come through in plain text here? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] kernel recompile
Do you have a backup boot disk (it asked you to create one during installation)? If you do, just boot off of that, and after you get into Linux, change LILO back so that it points to your old kernel, instead of your new one. Hi, I recompiled the kernel on a Mandrake 6.5 system and forgot to run depmod before rebooting,now it hangs at checking module dependencies.Is there a way to rescue the system without reinstalling? Thanks, Dan -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Programming
Just based off looking at source code of programs for Linux, the two most often used languages seem to be perl and C++. So on that basis, I'd go with learning both of them. I know that's what I plan to do over the summer (well, I already know some C++ from school, but I know almost nothing of perl) I know that this is rather off-topic, but I notice that Linux comes with a few optional programming programs. Out of the wisening experiences you have all had, which programming langauge would you guys say that it would be wise to invest in? Thanks -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Checking IP Address
Type "ifconfig" and that should bring you up your IP. Does anyone know how to check the current IP address of a Linux system? I'm using DHCP, and don't have a static address. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues
First problem: LILO. Right now, I have to disable the primary hard drive in BIOS to boot my Linux drive. When I boot the Linux drive, LILO asks me if I want to boot to Linux or my floppy drive. I'd love to be able to make a choice between Windows and Linux as everything boots up. I attempted to reconfigure LILO, at the command prompt, but obviously I am not getting something. I have the feeling that I need to somehow configure LILO on my Windows hard drive, since that is my primary master and what boots first. Any ideas/suggestions? Where did you install LILO? I have my system set up the same way (Windows on the primary, Linux on the slave) and I have no problems dual booting. LILO should be installed on the primary drive, in the Master Boot Record. If that's the problem, you can change with linuxconf. Type "linuxconf" as root, and then go to "Boot Mode". Set the LILO location to /dev/hda and that should fix it. Second, I thought my modem was configured properly during the Mandrake install. Whenever I try to use it in Linux, it says the modem is busy. It's definitely not. I bought the confounded modem expressly because I was under the impression that it was supported by Linux. It is a Rockwell ACF II 56k data fax modem, on COM port 2 (in windows language). Today I read something somewhere that suggested Rockwells aren't usually supported by Linux. Was I misled? Can anyone point me in the direction of a Linux-modem webpage? I'm not sure what's wrong with your modem, but the web page you want is http://linmodems.org/ Sheesh. I realize I sound like a babe in the woods here. Bear with me. Thank goodness this list is labeled "newbie"! Don't worry about it. We were all newbies at one time. : ) Thanks, Kathleen -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1
In /etc/fstab, add "umask=0" w/o quotes as one of the options at the end of hte partition you want to be writable. Should be right after the other options. Here's mine for instance: /dev/hdb5 /windows vfat user,exec,nodev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto,umask=0 0 0 And this is another thing Mandrake should do automatically. They mount it automatically for you right now, so it probally wouldn't be that hard for them to make it writable to everyone. Or maybe there's a good reason to leave it defaulted as read only. another stumper for me? I just wanted to make a new directory on the DOS partition that I could put some WP8 files in (because the apostrophe comes out on the printer as something stupid in Linux right now) and it said I didn't have permission. I checked the "fstab" and hda1 includes "user" in permissions. I checked properties by right-clicking on the icon and it includes user, group and others for both read and write. OK, so I made the directory as super-user, gave it "a+rwx" permissions, and still couldn't save a file in it. Access denied. No permission to write or what ever Again, what am I missing here? Bob -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
RE: [newbie] Chat
http://freshmeat.net/search.php3?query=instant+messanger has a big list of AIM and ICQ clones for Linux. Is there an AIM for Linux ? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1
I *think* I understood what you wrote, but I'm a bit confused. All the symlinking and stuff. Anyway, the way Mandrake "auto-mounts" it's HD's (at least in 6.1, although I'm sure it's similar in 7.0) is it created several mount directories (ie /mnt/DOS_sda5/) during installation and then at boot-up it'll mount /dev/sda5 on /mnt/DOS_sda5. That way the newbie user doesn't have to deal with mounting his harddrives, Mandrake does it for them. I think maybe you got confused because my mount point for /dev/hdb5 is /windows. I just created it there myself because of some small convinces, mounting it in /mnt/hdb5 would mean an extra mouse click when looking for mp3's with XMMS. And it's slightly less typing when I work at the console. But don't worry, I know that most of the time mount points will be in /mnt and that's the way a standard Mandrake install does it. Anthony Huereca wrote: In /etc/fstab, add "umask=0" w/o quotes as one of the options at the end of hte partition you want to be writable. Should be right after the other options. Here's mine for instance: /dev/hdb5 /windows vfat user,exec,nodev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto,umask=0 0 0 And this is another thing Mandrake should do automatically. They mount it automatically for you right now, so it probally wouldn't be that hard for them to make it writable to everyone. Or maybe there's a good reason to leave it defaulted as read only. There's generally, as far as I'm aware, no reason to mount dos drives automatically. This should be a /mnt mount point and /mnt mount points aren't intended to be automatically mounted. On the other hand, I'm refering to automatically mounting during the boot process, instead of when the mount point is accessed later on. rw should make it writable. I'm not sure why umask=0 is needed, unless this is just because it's not ext2. rw, alone, makes ext2 filesystems writable. Filesystems which don't directly pertain to the actual Linux configuration you boot into should not be mounted during boot, unless you're dealing with networking (in which case I don't have enough knowledge to say one way or the other, except that in many a Unix environment, these are automounted only when a user tries to access them, instead of during the boot process). What I've read and helps to keep everything clearer is that what you create in / are symbolic links to the mount points in /mnt. E,g., /c: = /mnt/c: By using ls -l or ls -F against /c: or even just /, the user sees /c: is a symbolic link to a /mnt mount point and can therefore immediately realize or assume that this is not mounted during the boot process. mount /mnt/c:- will "automatically" mount /mnt/c: according to the definition in the fstab file, if there's a definition for it there. If that's not done, a user does ls /mnt/c: and /mnt/c: is automatically mounted, then this is automounting as is often known in Unix. Then, /c: is accessible, in all of these cases. I'm not sure what form of automatic mounting people are referring to, here, because automatic applies in all three cases, in different ways. In Solaris, automounting "foreign" filesystems refers to the latter meaning, as far as I'm aware, but because this is a newbie list, people could mean something different. Even in the expert mailing list, people could mean any of these three possibilities. "Automatic" is a fairly general concept and context usually helps to clarify the meaning. Explicit explanation always clarifies the meaning. So, which are you people usually referring to? The general recommendation of placing any filesystems which aren't mounted during the boot process in /mnt is a good idea, because it keeps a system configuration more immediately understandable. Mount points can be placed almost anywhere, even buried n directories deep; however, to become accustomed to creating configurations according to more general or "standard" guidelines, it's good to follow these. Create mount points in /mnt and symbolic links to these in /, or your home directory (/ is better, because in / these are accessible by everyone who has the privileges to use these). It's a little extra overhead in setting up, but when doing ls -F on /, for example, it's immediately evident that /cdrom, /a:, /floppy, /c:, /d:, etcetera, are symlinks to /mnt mount points. Mounting can't be done using these, because they're symlinks, but mounting is done relatively infrequently, while access is done much more often; therefore, the extra typing of /mnt for mounting and umounting is insignificant. Mandrake may have made / the location of these mount points, but this renders the system a little less immediately understandable, because any actual directory hard links in /, should be part of the main configuration. cdrom, dos partitions, and floppies aren't
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
I hate to say it (again), but this is absolutely correct. To gain widespread acceptance any Linux distribution *MUST* have a good browser, a good email package, and (oh no! here it comes!) support Winmodems, ... ugh, Linmodems! This is quite true, sadly. Kmail is great for my simple uses, but I know that many people would find it lacking and want outlook back. But there is some email client, whose name I just forgot, that is suposed to be quite similar to Outlook. But as of yet it's not far enough along to even be able to release any version yet. And Mozilla is promising on the browser front. I still like IE better, but Netscape 6 is a huge improvement over Netscape 4.7 for me. To expand on the modem idea, Linux also needs to get an AOL port too if it wants to get really really big. Of course, the kinds of people who use AOL aren't usuallly the kind of people who use Linux, at least right now. Anything short of this and it's a sideshow in the big market place. Sure, you'll get people like me stuffing it into server rooms to do all kinds of stuff. But we'll never tell the pointy haired boss. The one thing Linux needs to get accepted to the PHB is Office. Everyone and their mother uses that in business, and while there are programs to read and write .doc files, there just isn't anything better than actually having the original program to write and read with. And then they're all those inconsistancies with the other formats of the MS Office package. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
