Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 RC1 doesn't see SATA drive in mixed IDE/SATA environment

2007-09-26 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Bob Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have two hard drives, one IDE and one SATA. My 10.2 installation 
 has /, /boot, /usr mounted on the SATA drive, while /home is a LVM2 volume 
 spanning both hard drives.

 When I tried installing 10.3 RC1, it only detected the IDE drive. In the 
 Partitioner module, choosing expert - import settings from previous fstab 
 failed to find an existing fstab.

 The boot up process appears to load both IDE and SATA drivers, so I presume 
 there is a problem with the SATA (sata_sis) driver. Is this likely to be 
 fixed by 10.3 GM or will I have to stay with 10.2?

Please report it in bugzilla (for details see http://bugs.opensuse.org)
- otherwise there's no chance at all.

This is really late and I'm not sure that we can fix it in time.  But
report it so that we can check it.  The report should include the YaST
log files as explained at http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/YaST as well as
the output of hwinfo --all

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Tuesday 25 September 2007 20:49:43 Miquel A. Noguera ste napísal:
 El Martes, 25 de Septiembre de 2007 20:23:48 Cristian Rodriguez escribió:
   ...that's the reason why I use SmartPM. At least for now.
 
  Smart is nota solution.

 Unfortunately we haven't had any solution in 10.1 or 10.2, only non
 supported workarounds such as smart or apt :-(

 In 10,3 zypper is so good that we will only need apt/smart in few
 occasions, and probably in 11.0 we will be able to forget them definitively
 :-)

In which occasions? 

Stano
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Fan stays on constantly..

2007-09-26 Thread M9.
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 Sid Boyce schreef:
 Greg KH wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 07:44:08AM +0200, M9. wrote:
 Hi,

 The thermic control does not work anymore.
 Ah, a nice, fully formed bug report, giving a detailed description of
 the specific hardware being used, what was previously done, and even
 what software was running on the machine.  I just love these kinds of
 reports, they make fixing the issue so easy.

 OK, the next bug I come across, I'll make sure I do the same and that
 you are wearing a pair of dark glasses in a darkened room, spun around a
 few times, now see how easy that makes fixing it will be.
 Regards
 Sid.

 Dzjee Sid, i realy thought he (Greg) meant the opposite :-))
 Than you should give him a drink before spinning, (no offense Greg ;-)


 
 To date, I've only given him one he couldn't solve and that was over a
 year ago, so he passed it on to the usb developers list who have stopped
 speaking to him and to me also. I tried them a second time with it
 perhaps a couple of months ago, they still aren't speaking.
 Regards
 Sid.
 

Politics? Here also? Insults or just people with long toes...
I am not the one to judge this, know nothing about it...
Does that bug still exist?

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[opensuse-factory] volunteers with T61 wanted - usb unhandled interrupt issue

2007-09-26 Thread Oliver Neukum
Hi,

if you have a Lenovo T61 laptop, you might be suffering from bug #325601
As we have difficulties reliably triggering it, anybody ready to test the
kernel RPMs http://beta1.suse.com/private/oneukum/325601 would be most
welcome. If you see Shutting up FLR interrupt in your kernel log, I'll
have kept your USB working and I can close this bug.

Regards
Oliver

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:

  In 10,3 zypper is so good that we will only need apt/smart in few
  occasions, and probably in 11.0 we will be able to forget them
  definitively
 
  :-)

 In which occasions?

occasion 1)
===

We need to download -only download- a list of packages and keep it for any 
posterior use, for example:

- download updates every night to update our local update server
- make a dvd update for pc's with no internet acces (great!)

To do so, first, I get a list with all necessary rpm's in every box I 
maintain:

rpm -qa --queryformat %{name} \n | grep -v gpg-pubkey | sort  
pc_01.list

with those lists, every night my server's cron downloads all updates that 
afect me:

apt-get update
apt-get reinstall -dy $(cat pc_01.list pc_02.list ... pc_NN.list)

and it updates my local repo too:

rm /srv/ftp/repo/RPMS.last/*
cp /var/cache/apt/*.rpm /srv/ftp/repo/RPMS.last
genbasedir /srv/ftp/repo/

When I need, I can:

- Test new updates in a vmware machine without wait for download (*)
- Apply it fastly (*) to my 5 local pc's, if everthing is ok.
- I can burn a dvd to update my home's pc, where I have no internet conetion.
- Perform fastly a new updated fresh install
- Retain versions of packages to prevent broken updrades.

(*) 11Mb/s instead 106Kb/s means about 100 times faster.

Regards.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1300 (hybrid) doesn't work in RC1

2007-09-26 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-24 at 00:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

  Yast detects it as CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder. It didn't
  work. Then I manually selected the correct one.
  
  Tuner can not be edited in yast (it says: no tuner is available for the
  selected card).
  
  It doesn't find any stations at all (Spain, pal-bg). I try kdetv, same
  thing: no stations, neither manually not automatically.
  
  I can see the video (composite input), but no sound. I twiddled all
  volume controls I could find in the mixer to no avail.
  
 
 Can this log entries be related to it?
 
 
 Sep 23 21:36:54 minas-morgul kernel: cx88[0]/2-bb: Firmware and/or mailbox 
 pointer not initialized or corrupted
 Sep 23 21:36:55 minas-morgul kernel: cx88[0]/2-bb: ERROR: Hotplug firmware 
 request failed (v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw).
 Sep 23 21:36:55 minas-morgul kernel: cx88[0]/2-bb: Please fix your hotplug 
 setup, the board will not work without firmware loaded!

Looking in http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware, it seems the firmware 
is hidden under a directory of the card CD, with another name, so they can 
simply be copied over to '/lib/firmware/' and renamed:

 376836 Jan 17  2005 HcwFalcn.rom   --  v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
  12282 Jul  1  2005 HcwMakoC.ROM   --  v4l-cx25840.fw
  14264 Apr 20  2005 HcwMakoB.ROM   ?


The kernel finds it:

Sep 26 03:08:50 minas-morgul kernel: cx88[0]/2-bb: Firmware and/or mailbox 
pointer not initialized or corrupted
Sep 26 03:08:58 minas-morgul kernel: cx88[0]/2-bb: Firmware upload successful.
Sep 26 03:08:58 minas-morgul kernel: cx88[0]/2-bb: Firmware version is 
0x02050032


But now kdetv crashes (xawtv works). Yast still finds no stations at all, 
and there is no sound. xine doesn't work, either (dvb?).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:

  In 10,3 zypper is so good that we will only need apt/smart in few
  occasions, and probably in 11.0 we will be able to forget them
  definitively
 
  :-)

 In which occasions?

Occasion 2
==

apt allows to block automatic updates for desired packages.

If it is known kenrel-x.y.z or package-a.b.c broks our system, we don't want 
it to be updated until there is a new trusted version available.

With apt, all I have to do is edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add problematic 
packages to de Hold line.

Do zypper provide a similar function?

Regards.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 12:37:06 Miquel A. Noguera escribió:

 With apt, all I have to do is edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add problematic
 packages to de Hold line.

zypper instead removes _allways_ the right version, download again the 
worong/s one/s, and then I have to remember downgrade it manually, wich means 
wasting a lot of time :-(

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Wednesday 26 September 2007 12:37:06 Miquel A. Noguera ste napísal:
 El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky 
escribió:
   In 10,3 zypper is so good that we will only need apt/smart in few
   occasions, and probably in 11.0 we will be able to forget them
   definitively
  
   :-)
 
  In which occasions?

 Occasion 2
 ==

 apt allows to block automatic updates for desired packages.

 If it is known kenrel-x.y.z or package-a.b.c broks our system, we don't
 want it to be updated until there is a new trusted version available.

 With apt, all I have to do is edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add problematic
 packages to de Hold line.

 Do zypper provide a similar function?

Would /etc/zypp/locks help? See 'man zypper'.

Stano
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Wednesday 26 September 2007 12:06:49 Miquel A. Noguera ste napísal:
 El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky 
escribió:
   In 10,3 zypper is so good that we will only need apt/smart in few
   occasions, and probably in 11.0 we will be able to forget them
   definitively
  
   :-)
 
  In which occasions?

 occasion 1)
 ===

 We need to download -only download- a list of packages and keep it for any
 posterior use, for example:

 - download updates every night to update our local update server
 - make a dvd update for pc's with no internet acces (great!)

 To do so, first, I get a list with all necessary rpm's in every box I
 maintain:

   rpm -qa --queryformat %{name} \n | grep -v gpg-pubkey | sort 
 pc_01.list

 with those lists, every night my server's cron downloads all updates that
 afect me:

   apt-get update
   apt-get reinstall -dy $(cat pc_01.list pc_02.list ... pc_NN.list)

 and it updates my local repo too:

   rm /srv/ftp/repo/RPMS.last/*
   cp /var/cache/apt/*.rpm /srv/ftp/repo/RPMS.last
   genbasedir /srv/ftp/repo/

 When I need, I can:

 - Test new updates in a vmware machine without wait for download (*)
 - Apply it fastly (*) to my 5 local pc's, if everthing is ok.
 - I can burn a dvd to update my home's pc, where I have no internet
 conetion. - Perform fastly a new updated fresh install
 - Retain versions of packages to prevent broken updrades.

 (*) 11Mb/s instead 106Kb/s means about 100 times faster.

So, you basically create your own mirror using download-only functionality. 
Correct?

If so, do you need just the download-only, or also some other functionality?

Stano
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:

 In which occasions?

occasion 3:
===

zypper downloads a package, applies it and then goes for next package.

It means our box can be in a inconsistent state until update is finised (even 
hours).

With apt (or smart) all packages are first downloaded and they will be 
installed only when all required packages are downloaded, wich will shorten 
dramatically this time.

Additionally, if conection is down during update proces, never knows what will 
happen with zypper (may be our box will be in a inconsistent state until 
conection is available again).

With apt/smart this problem doesn't exist. Instead interrubted download will 
be resumed for saving our time.

I am wrong?

Miquel.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 13:00:03 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:

 So, you basically create your own mirror using download-only functionality.
 Correct?

That's right.

 If so, do you need just the download-only, or also some other
 functionality?

Let's say it will be enough

Additionally, it would be wellcome the ability to triger some process when it 
finish.

For example:

- tell yast to update local repo
- tell openSUSE updater our system is already updated
- BTW, any custom script

Thanks.
Miquel.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 12:58:44 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:

  With apt, all I have to do is edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add problematic
  packages to de Hold line.
 
  Do zypper provide a similar function?

 Would /etc/zypp/locks help? See 'man zypper'.

Oh, probably yes. I looked it before, but for shure I did not pay sufficient 
attention to LOOKS section.

So, I must put one indidual line for each package to retain (wilcards 
accepted. For example kernel-bigsmp-2.6.22.5-29 or just kernel-bigsmp*) 
Right?

Is it handled in any way from yast2?

Thanks.
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[opensuse-factory] Unable to update from 10.2 to 10.3 RC1 on IBM R40

2007-09-26 Thread Matthias Bach
Hi!

Trying to update from a openSUSE 10.2 to 10.3 RC1 on an IBM R40 fails.  When 
initializing the Setup system it shows the following dialog:

The partitioning on disk /dev/sda is not readable by the partitioning tool 
parted, which is used to change the partition table.
You can use the partitions on disk /dev/sda as they are. you can format them 
and assign mount points to them, but you cannot add, edit, resize or remove 
partitions from that disk with this tool.

When I afterwards select the update option and continue it shows all three 
partitions on this disk, but seems not recognize the openSUSE 10.2 
on /dev/sda1 and therefore will not let me update.

Looking at the boot log a lot of attempt to access beyond end of device can 
be seem, which make me guess this is another variant of BUG #327612. However 
the solution there won't work for me as I don't have a running 10.3, yet.

I attached the contents of /var/log.

Kind Regards,
Matthias
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Unable to update from 10.2 to 10.3 RC1 on IBM R40

2007-09-26 Thread Felix Möller
Hi,

 Looking at the boot log a lot of attempt to access beyond end of device can 
 be seem, which make me guess this is another variant of BUG #327612. However 
 the solution there won't work for me as I don't have a running 10.3, yet.
 
 I attached the contents of /var/log.
You should certainly open a bugreport at bugzilla.novell.com and attach
you YaST logs.

Good luck!
Felix Möller
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Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 39

2007-09-26 Thread Birger Kollstrand
Setting up LDAP authenticaton has hicups.

On the one CD KDE install it installed but does not work.
On the x86 DVD install it hung during install but stangely worked
after a reboot (and completing the rest of the install)

Birger

2007/9/25, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 peter nikolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Tuesday 25 September 2007, JP Rosevear wrote:
  On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 12:16 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
   * We're down to 0 blockers (two were just FIXED this morning) and 68
   critical. The criticals may result in online updates available at time
   for the GA.
 
  GNOME team has this critical:
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=307290
 
  A fix is submitted in the gnome-utils package, not sure if it should be
  a blocker or not because it might throw errors on install or upgrade and
  those can't be fixed after an update (gnome-utils is also a leaf).
 
  -JP
 
  Hi .
 
   I installed 10.3 RC1 x86_64 on my lapto   and found i could not mount the
  external hard drive on USB  works perfectly on 10.2   and 10.3a3 but stops
  after that ..

 Please file a bugreport in our bugzilla as explained at 
 http://bugs.opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Jan Kupec
Miquel A. Noguera wrote:
 El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:
 
 In which occasions?
 
 occasion 3:
 ===
 
 zypper downloads a package, applies it and then goes for next package.
 
 It means our box can be in a inconsistent state until update is finised (even 
 hours).

True, we want to work on this as well.

 With apt (or smart) all packages are first downloaded and they will be 
 installed only when all required packages are downloaded, wich will shorten 
 dramatically this time.
 
 Additionally, if conection is down during update proces, never knows what 
 will 
 happen with zypper (may be our box will be in a inconsistent state until 
 conection is available again).

True.

 With apt/smart this problem doesn't exist. Instead interrubted download will 
 be resumed for saving our time.

A nice feature to consider as well. Thanx.

 I am wrong?

Nope.


Cheers,

Jano

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Unable to update from 10.2 to 10.3 RC1 on IBM R40

2007-09-26 Thread richard (MQ)
Felix Möller wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Looking at the boot log a lot of attempt to access beyond end of device 
 can 
 be seem, which make me guess this is another variant of BUG #327612. However 
 the solution there won't work for me as I don't have a running 10.3, yet.

 I attached the contents of /var/log.
 You should certainly open a bugreport at bugzilla.novell.com and attach
 you YaST logs.

I had this too, bug #327513 which was also marked as a duplicate of
#327612 - not too helpful, is it, when you are trying to install! My fix
(see my bug!) was to boot the installer with 'brokenmodules=pata_via'.

It might be a different module causing your problem - take a look at the
logs as the installer loads, it will attempt to detect the platform and
decide which modules it wants e.g. for HD controllers. The first one
list for me was pata_via so my first stab was to disable that and all
was fine.

NB - I allowed network access and remote repositories, so the kernel
loaded for the installed system was newer  didn't show the problem.

HTH
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Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 RC1 doesn't see SATA drive in mixed IDE/SATA environment

2007-09-26 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 The boot up process appears to load both IDE and SATA drivers, so I presume 
 there is a problem with the SATA (sata_sis) driver. Is this likely to be 
 fixed by 10.3 GM or will I have to stay with 10.2?
 
 Please report it in bugzilla (for details see http://bugs.opensuse.org)
 - otherwise there's no chance at all.

There might be a workaround...

When the installation starts (Linuxrc) and drivers loaded, see which
modules/drivers are used for your SATA disk/controller. There should be
list of drivers that could be used.

Then, you can try to disable the first, (first and second, ...) module
to force Linuxrc to skip it (them) and try the next one.

See http://en.opensuse.org/Linuxrc
Parameter: BrokenModules

Similar report (in 10.2):
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-bugs/2006-10/msg07750.html

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Jan Kupec
Miquel A. Noguera wrote:
 El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 12:58:44 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:
 
 With apt, all I have to do is edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add problematic
 packages to de Hold line.

 Do zypper provide a similar function?
 Would /etc/zypp/locks help? See 'man zypper'.
 
 Oh, probably yes. I looked it before, but for shure I did not pay sufficient 
 attention to LOOKS section.
 
 So, I must put one indidual line for each package to retain (wilcards 
 accepted. For example kernel-bigsmp-2.6.22.5-29 or just kernel-bigsmp*) 
 Right?
# Nope, it goes like this:
kernel-bigsmp
# or
kernel-bigsmp*
# if you want to avoid installing/updating/removing all versions of
# kernel-bigsmp or packages matching kernel-bigsmp*

# or the folloving if you want avoid installing/updating/removing
# a specific version of it
kernel-bigsmp  x.x.x.x

 Is it handled in any way from yast2?

I don't think so.

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[opensuse-factory] [Announcement] Repository Issues When Upgrading Any 10.3 to 10.3 RC2 (and newer)

2007-09-26 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Hi,

During the upgrade (when using CD/DVD media), the current system
repositories are read from the system. These repositories are offered to
be either enabled or disabled during the installation/upgrade.

If you enable a repository, it is added during the installation in an
enabled state and you can use it during the upgrade, otherwise it is
added in a disabled state. This all is correct and helps you to upgrade
all packages at once.

The problematic part is, that if you have a newer libzypp package (that
uses /etc/zypp/repos.d/ to store libzypp configuration), you'll have
these sources twice after the upgrade.

* The old sources will remain as they were before upgrade.
* Installation/Upgrade will add them enabled/disabled as selected
  during the upgrade process.

Solution:
Do not remove these sources before installation/upgrade because upgrade
wouldn't have anything to offer you during the upgrade process.
You might disable these sources and you will find them disabled after
the upgrade as well. Additionally newly added sources will be enabled or
disabled as you will choose during the upgrade.

Upgrade from 10.2 to 10.3 is OK
Upgrade from 10.3 to 10.3 BetaX adds only those sources that were enabled.
Upgrade from 10.3 to 10.3 RC2/... adds both enabled and disabled sources.

See bug #326325 for more information.

Sorry  Bye
Lukas

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Unable to update from 10.2 to 10.3 RC1 on IBM R40

2007-09-26 Thread Matthias Bach
Hi!

Am Mittwoch 26 September 2007 schrieb richard (MQ):
 I had this too, bug #327513 which was also marked as a duplicate of
 #327612 - not too helpful, is it, when you are trying to install! My fix
 (see my bug!) was to boot the installer with 'brokenmodules=pata_via'.

 It might be a different module causing your problem - take a look at the
 logs as the installer loads, it will attempt to detect the platform and
 decide which modules it wants e.g. for HD controllers. The first one
 list for me was pata_via so my first stab was to disable that and all
 was fine.

Thanks for the tip. Looks like the problem was with the module ata_piix, 
however, seeing that this problem occurs in multiple modules there seems to 
be more behind it than just a problem about the modules.

 NB - I allowed network access and remote repositories, so the kernel
 loaded for the installed system was newer  didn't show the problem.

Sadly this is not an option for me. I could only access the network via WLAN, 
and while YAST seems to properly load the drivers for the intel chipset I 
cannot use it because that part of the network configuration is missing in 
the installer.

Again, thanks for the help,
Matthias
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Re: [opensuse-factory] kdar / backup software?

2007-09-26 Thread Jonathan D. Arnold / Daemon Dancing
Dirk Mueller wrote:
 On Sunday, 23. September 2007, David Strozzi wrote:
 
 I have install opensuse 10.3 RC1.  I can't find kdar, in the dvd,
 
 please try opensuse-kde@ in the future, I almost missed it here :)
 
 factory, or buildservice.  I'm a little surprised.  dar and libdar are
 there.  I liked the gui interface that kdar provided.
 
 The problem is that the kdar gui does not compile anymore with the newer 
 version of libdar we`re shipping now, and it seems noone had time to adopt it 
 to this change. 
 
 If somebody helps porting it to the new libdar version (which should not be 
 more than a couple of hours of time plus testing), then we could add it again 
 via buildservice and the next opensuse version. 

Okay, just for something to do (like I needed the distraction!), I got kdar 
v2.0.7
(the latest stable version) building with libdar 2.3.5. It seems to work okay, 
but
I have some questions out to the libdar developers list about some of the new
stuff. The rpm in the 10.3 repo is for 2.3.4 but I think the changes from 2.3.4 
to
2.3.5 are minor and should affect kdar in any way.

But I'm not really sure where to go from here. The v2 branch hasn't been 
touched in
a couple of years. There seems to be some work being done on a new v3. I 
suppose I
could look into submitting the changes I've made to the v2 branch into the 
Sourceforge
CVS? Or does someone at suse want to take my changes and do something with them 
to
create a new rpm?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] kdar / backup software?

2007-09-26 Thread Dirk Mueller
On Wednesday, 26. September 2007, Jonathan D. Arnold / Daemon Dancing wrote:

 Okay, just for something to do (like I needed the distraction!), I got kdar
 v2.0.7 (the latest stable version) building with libdar 2.3.5. It seems to
 work okay, but I have some questions out to the libdar developers list
 about some of the new stuff. The rpm in the 10.3 repo is for 2.3.4 but I
 think the changes from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 are minor and should affect kdar in
 any way.

can you create a buildservice project containing your fixed kdar rpm? 
alternatively if you can`t do that, can you please send me your src.rpm?

Thanks,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Unable to update from 10.2 to 10.3 RC1 on IBM R40

2007-09-26 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Matthias Bach wrote:
 NB - I allowed network access and remote repositories, so the kernel
 loaded for the installed system was newer  didn't show the problem.
 
 Sadly this is not an option for me. I could only access the network via WLAN, 
 and while YAST seems to properly load the drivers for the intel chipset I 
 cannot use it because that part of the network configuration is missing in 
 the installer.

You're right, WLAN configuration is not part of the Network Setup in the
First Stage installation. It should have been just a simple static/dhcp
configuration.

See bug #293609 for more details.

Anyway, you might want to setup the WLAN manually :) Before selecting
the installation mode (plus [x] Online Repositories), switch to the
console 2 and set it up.

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Ndiswrapper
See Manual Interface Configuration

Bye
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Re: [opensuse-factory] kdar / backup software?

2007-09-26 Thread Jonathan D. Arnold / Daemon Dancing
Dirk Mueller wrote:
 On Wednesday, 26. September 2007, Jonathan D. Arnold / Daemon Dancing wrote:
 
 Okay, just for something to do (like I needed the distraction!), I got kdar
 v2.0.7 (the latest stable version) building with libdar 2.3.5. It seems to
 work okay, but I have some questions out to the libdar developers list
 about some of the new stuff. The rpm in the 10.3 repo is for 2.3.4 but I
 think the changes from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 are minor and should affect kdar in
 any way.
 
 can you create a buildservice project containing your fixed kdar rpm? 
 alternatively if you can`t do that, can you please send me your src.rpm?

There, now you've done it - zipped right by my knowledge threshold!-) I 
downloaded
the source archive from the kdar web site and got it building. AFAIK, there is
no kdar source rpm. The best I could do vis-a-vis a new kdar rpm would be to
run checkinstall on the source, as I don't know anything about rpms, really. If
a 'checkinstall'ed rpm is good enough for you, I can send it along. 
Alternatively,
I can:

1] Send you my kdar source folder

2] Send you my changed source files and you can integrate the changes into any
src rpm that might be around

That being said, I'm still waiting on a couple of changes I had to make to get
kdar to compile with libdar. I made some wild guesses just to get it to work, 
but
I should make sure the changes are compatible with how people feel like kdar 
should
work.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Unable to update from 10.2 to 10.3 RC1 on IBM R40

2007-09-26 Thread Richard (MQ)
 
 Am Mittwoch 26 September 2007 schrieb richard (MQ):
 I had this too, bug #327513 which was also marked as a duplicate of
 #327612 - not too helpful, is it, when you are trying to install! My fix
 (see my bug!) was to boot the installer with 'brokenmodules=pata_via'.

 It might be a different module causing your problem - take a look at the
 logs as the installer loads, it will attempt to detect the platform and
 decide which modules it wants e.g. for HD controllers. The first one
 list for me was pata_via so my first stab was to disable that and all
 was fine.
 
 Thanks for the tip. Looks like the problem was with the module ata_piix, 
 however, seeing that this problem occurs in multiple modules there seems to 
 be more behind it than just a problem about the modules.
 
 NB - I allowed network access and remote repositories, so the kernel
 loaded for the installed system was newer  didn't show the problem.
 
 Sadly this is not an option for me. I could only access the network via WLAN, 
 and while YAST seems to properly load the drivers for the intel chipset I 
 cannot use it because that part of the network configuration is missing in 
 the installer.
 
 Again, thanks for the help,
 Matthias

You're welcome. I think your best bet is to wait for RC2!
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Re: [opensuse-factory] kdar / backup software?

2007-09-26 Thread Dirk Mueller
On Wednesday, 26. September 2007, Jonathan D. Arnold / Daemon Dancing wrote:

 2] Send you my changed source files and you can integrate the changes into
 any src rpm that might be around

ah, please do a diff -ur between the changed source dir and one that you 
unpacked in parallel that is unmodified, and send me the output (private mail 
only please). 

Thanks,
Dirk


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[opensuse-factory] Getting gdbm fatal: lseek error

2007-09-26 Thread Trey Sizemore
I'm running openSUSE 10.3 RC1 + updates.  When I attempt to launch
mutt, and after passing my credentials, I get:

Selecting INBOX...gdbm fatal: lseek error

I'm experiencing this with several versions of mutt from CVS as well as
the version included with openSUSE.

I've also re-installed the gdbm and gdbm-dev packages.

mutt-1.5.16-36
gdbm-devel-1.8.3-302
gdbm-1.8.3-302

Any idea on how to troubleshoot this?  Bad gdbm package perhaps?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Getting gdbm fatal: lseek error

2007-09-26 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm running openSUSE 10.3 RC1 + updates.  When I attempt to launch
 mutt, and after passing my credentials, I get:

 Selecting INBOX...gdbm fatal: lseek error

How large is your mail box?

 I'm experiencing this with several versions of mutt from CVS as well as
 the version included with openSUSE.

 I've also re-installed the gdbm and gdbm-dev packages.

 mutt-1.5.16-36
 gdbm-devel-1.8.3-302
 gdbm-1.8.3-302

 Any idea on how to troubleshoot this?  Bad gdbm package perhaps?

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Unable to update from 10.2 to 10.3 RC1 on IBM R40

2007-09-26 Thread Warren Stockton
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:34:13 Richard (MQ) wrote:
 You're welcome. I think your best bet is to wait for RC2!

RC2 has already been sync'd to OSS-Factory and won't be sent out as ISO's (as 
already mentioned in other emails).

If you wait, your next test will be with the final release on Oct 4.

You could try test with 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/boot/boot.iso
 
from OSS-Factory or the RC2 Live CD's

From coolo's Announcing 10.3 RC2 Live CDs on [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-RC2/iso/cd/
 
 80397c4ffb1c33097303b70c6863b63e  openSUSE-10.3-RC2-GNOME-Live-i386.iso
 ed7abd1d1517e5dd6505a03c17343a71  openSUSE-10.3-RC2-KDE-Live-i386.iso
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Getting gdbm fatal: lseek error

2007-09-26 Thread Trey Sizemore

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:05:28 +0200, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I'm running openSUSE 10.3 RC1 + updates.  When I attempt to launch
  mutt, and after passing my credentials, I get:
 
  Selecting INBOX...gdbm fatal: lseek error
 
 How large is your mail box?


The Fastmail account is ~760MB in total and the INBOX specifically is
~184MB.  This is an IMAP account.

 
  I'm experiencing this with several versions of mutt from CVS as well as
  the version included with openSUSE.
 
  I've also re-installed the gdbm and gdbm-dev packages.
 
  mutt-1.5.16-36
  gdbm-devel-1.8.3-302
  gdbm-1.8.3-302
 
  Any idea on how to troubleshoot this?  Bad gdbm package perhaps?
 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Getting gdbm fatal: lseek error

2007-09-26 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:05:28 +0200, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I'm running openSUSE 10.3 RC1 + updates.  When I attempt to launch
  mutt, and after passing my credentials, I get:
 
  Selecting INBOX...gdbm fatal: lseek error
 
 How large is your mail box?


 The Fastmail account is ~760MB in total and the INBOX specifically is
 ~184MB.  This is an IMAP account.

Ok, so less than 2 GB - then I have no idea ;-(

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Getting gdbm fatal: lseek error

2007-09-26 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:20:19 +0200, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:05:28 +0200, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  said:
  Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   I'm running openSUSE 10.3 RC1 + updates.  When I attempt to launch
   mutt, and after passing my credentials, I get:
  
   Selecting INBOX...gdbm fatal: lseek error
  
  How large is your mail box?
 
 
  The Fastmail account is ~760MB in total and the INBOX specifically is
  ~184MB.  This is an IMAP account.
 
 Ok, so less than 2 GB - then I have no idea ;-(

If this is not reproducable, any idea how I might troubleshoot?

 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Unable to update from 10.2 to 10.3 RC1 on IBM R40

2007-09-26 Thread Richard (MQ)
Warren Stockton wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:34:13 Richard (MQ) wrote:
 You're welcome. I think your best bet is to wait for RC2!
 
 RC2 has already been sync'd to OSS-Factory and won't be sent out as ISO's (as 
 already mentioned in other emails).

Quite so - culpe mea. My memory is going...

 If you wait, your next test will be with the final release on Oct 4.
 
 You could try test with 
 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/boot/boot.iso
  
 from OSS-Factory or the RC2 Live CD's
 
 From coolo's Announcing 10.3 RC2 Live CDs on [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-RC2/iso/cd/

The former is impractical unless the OP can get the WLAN up for
installation (another sub-thread), in which case the 'brokenmodules=xxx'
fix is probably viable too. I'd be interested to know how that goes,
though I rarely use my own WLAN due to it's lack of security...

The latter should at least show how the hardware behaves with a newer
kernel.
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[opensuse-factory] zypper install package (and version)

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
Hi all.

I can't find the way to say zypper to install a certain version of a 
resolvable when there are several available.

The equivalent one in apt would be for example:

apt-get install gimp-unstable=2.4.0rc3-0.pm.1

man zypper or http://en.opensuse.org/Zypper/Usage don't help me :-(

Thanks
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Getting gdbm fatal: lseek error

2007-09-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-26-07 13:32]:
 If this is not reproducable, any idea how I might troubleshoot?

you would need to recompile mutt with debug enabled and present the
output.  Possibly on the mutt-dev list ??

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Getting gdbm fatal: lseek error

2007-09-26 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2007-09-26 13:30:34 -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:20:19 +0200, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:05:28 +0200, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   said:
   Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
I'm running openSUSE 10.3 RC1 + updates.  When I attempt to launch
mutt, and after passing my credentials, I get:
   
Selecting INBOX...gdbm fatal: lseek error
   
   How large is your mail box?
  
  
   The Fastmail account is ~760MB in total and the INBOX specifically is
   ~184MB.  This is an IMAP account.
  
  Ok, so less than 2 GB - then I have no idea ;-(
 
 If this is not reproducable, any idea how I might troubleshoot?

delete your cache files to get rid of it. it will be recreated
afterwards.

updating the mutt/gdbm version can lead to crashes with the header
cache. were your caches created with an older versions?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Getting gdbm fatal: lseek error

2007-09-26 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:39:17 +0200, Marcus Rueckert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 On 2007-09-26 13:30:34 -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote:
  On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:20:19 +0200, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  said:
   Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:05:28 +0200, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] said:
Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm running openSUSE 10.3 RC1 + updates.  When I attempt to launch
 mutt, and after passing my credentials, I get:

 Selecting INBOX...gdbm fatal: lseek error

How large is your mail box?
   
   
The Fastmail account is ~760MB in total and the INBOX specifically is
~184MB.  This is an IMAP account.
   
   Ok, so less than 2 GB - then I have no idea ;-(
  
  If this is not reproducable, any idea how I might troubleshoot?
 
 delete your cache files to get rid of it. it will be recreated
 afterwards.
 
 updating the mutt/gdbm version can lead to crashes with the header
 cache. were your caches created with an older versions?
 
 darix
 

Yes, the cache was, I believe.  I will give this a try when I'm back at
the machine.

Thank you darix.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] zypper install package (and version)

2007-09-26 Thread Benji Weber
On 26/09/2007, Miquel A. Noguera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all.

 I can't find the way to say zypper to install a certain version of a
 resolvable when there are several available.

 The equivalent one in apt would be for example:

 apt-get install gimp-unstable=2.4.0rc3-0.pm.1

I don't believe this is possible with zypper at this time. It is not a
limitation of libzypp - you can select the specific version in yast2
sw_single (see the versions tab).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] zypper install package (and version)

2007-09-26 Thread Peter Buschbacher
Miquel A. Noguera schrieb:
 Hi all.
 
 I can't find the way to say zypper to install a certain version of a 
 resolvable when there are several available.
 
 The equivalent one in apt would be for example:
 
   apt-get install gimp-unstable=2.4.0rc3-0.pm.1
 
 man zypper or http://en.opensuse.org/Zypper/Usage don't help me :-(
 
 Thanks
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Hi Miquel
You missed the feature --capability which is described in man:/zypper. I
would paste it here, but I'm outside the virtual machine 10.3 is running
on. ;-)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] zypper install package (and version)

2007-09-26 Thread Druid
 I don't believe this is possible with zypper at this time. It is not a
 limitation of libzypp - you can select the specific version in yast2
 sw_single (see the versions tab).


Its supposed to be possible in 10.3 zypper, for zypper=0.8.4, as
mentioned in bug 247320

The new syntax is (from current zypper man page):

install (in) [options] capability ...
  Install or update resolvables.

  Capability is: NAME, or NAME[OPEDITION], where OP is  =  =
  =and  EDITION  is  VERSION[-RELEASE],  for  example:  zyp-
  per=0.8.8-2.

  Names are not only package names but  any  symbols  provided  by
  packages:  /bin/vi,  libcurl.so.3,  perl(Time::ParseDate).  Just
  remember to quote to protect the  special  characters  from  the
  shell, for example: zypper0.8.10 or 'zypper0.8.10'

  If  EDITION  is not specified, the newest available version will
  be installed.  This also means that if the  package  is  already
  installed and newer versions are available, it will get upgraded
  to the newest one.
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[opensuse-factory] How is compiz-fusion enabled?

2007-09-26 Thread Doctor Who
I currently have compiz working but would like to try compiz-fusion
and associated plugins (which are installed).

How do I 'change' to using compiz-fusion from compiz?

Thanks.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] How is compiz-fusion enabled?

2007-09-26 Thread Gabriel .
2007/9/26, Doctor Who [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I currently have compiz working but would like to try compiz-fusion
 and associated plugins (which are installed).

 How do I 'change' to using compiz-fusion from compiz?

 Thanks.

Look here http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_Fusion
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[opensuse-factory] Dirty filesystem after Yast update of RC1 and halt + reboot.

2007-09-26 Thread Carlos E. R.
Hi,

I told Yast to update all updatables. It downloaded over a gigabit, it took the
whole afternoon. It is a nuisance when it screeches over a network failure and
doesn't retry till I come by the computer and tell it to retry.

In the end, I told it to reboot, or perhaps halt; in any case, it halted. I
booted again, and I saw the system running a long filesystem check because the
root partition had not been cleanly umounted.

I thought this was a known bug with the RC1 DVD, but not with the installed 
system.

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Re: [opensuse] sending ASCII file with mail command (Fedora : OK ; OpenSuse : problem)

2007-09-26 Thread Jacob (=Jouk) Jansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25-SEP-2007 16:30:46.36
On Tuesday 25 September 2007 09:34, Jacob (=Jouk) Jansen wrote:
 Hi all,

 I try to send an E-mail with the content of an ASCII file as the body.
 I do this with the following command
   mail -s subj [EMAIL PROTECTED]  licinfo.txt

 When I give the command on a Fedora (several versions tested) the E-mail is
 recieved with the expected text in the body.
 If I give the command on an OpenSuse 10.2 system An E-mail which is
 unreadable is recieved at the other end.

 How can I get the same behaviour on the OpenSuse system as on the Fedora
 system?

   Jouk Jansen

man mail says the following.

-q file
  Start the message with the contents of the specified file.  May 
be given in send mode
  only.

Same wrong result.
  Jouk


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Re: [opensuse] sending ASCII file with mail command (Fedora : OK ; OpenSuse : problem)

2007-09-26 Thread Graham Smith
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Jacob (=Jouk) Jansen wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25-SEP-2007 16:30:46.36

 On Tuesday 25 September 2007 09:34, Jacob (=Jouk) Jansen wrote:

  I try to send an E-mail with the content of an ASCII file as the body.
  I do this with the following command
mail -s subj [EMAIL PROTECTED]  licinfo.txt
 

i mainly use 
   echo details here | mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In your example try
cat licinfo.txt | mail -s subj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and see if this works

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Re: [opensuse] HP Deskjet Printer in 10.3

2007-09-26 Thread michael norman

 
  Thank you, but what exactly are you saying I should do, change something
  in the file and if so exactly what ?
 
  MIke

 Mike,
 case when you're hitting by this bug:

 output from grep DeviceURI /etc/cups/printers.conf contains
 /dev/usb/lp0

 In this case run /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb command and there should be
  something like usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20810 (this is my case)

 replace /dev/usb/lp0 by this string in /etc/cupd/printers.conf:

 ...
 Info Epson Stylus Printer
 Location USB tlačiareň na //EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20810
 DeviceURI usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20810
 State Idle
 StateTime 1190615039
 Accepting Yes
 ...

 after that restart cups service (be sure that there is nothing in queue
 otherwise it will be printer again from begining) : rccups restart

 I hope this helps you.

 Bye,
 Michal

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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Sep 25 2007 20:50, Ron Eggler wrote:

Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask 
here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print 
just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In 
Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. 
Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it 
still can't find it and i will need to install it manually.
Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when 
i try to print something it tells me Access denied, unable to connect.
I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client 
just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated!

If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use Publish Printer in the
CUPS webfrontend.

If you use SMB printing from Windows, you can use samba's authentication
controls (i.e. authenticated or guest mode) and all is well.
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Re: [opensuse] Ever Seen these Mail Errors? Sandy?

2007-09-26 Thread Dave Howorth
David C. Rankin wrote:
   From Google it looks like a problem with the cron MAILTO variable, but
 what that is or where I fix it is still alluding me. Can't wait to shoot
 this box in the head when 10.3 comes out

At the top of your cron file, just add a line like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [opensuse] A subject line crashes email program

2007-09-26 Thread Carlos E. R.
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Hash: SHA1


The Tuesday 2007-09-25 at 23:06 +0200, Michael Skiba wrote:

 Am Dienstag, 25. September 2007 22:40:13 schrieb Jan Engelhardt:
  No, but I sent myself one with said subject, and nothing happened.
 
 Well maybe it's not the subject, but the mail itself which causes pine to 
 crash?

Mmmm could be... but that would be even more weird.

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Re: [opensuse] A subject line crashes email program

2007-09-26 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Tuesday 2007-09-25 at 17:43 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:

 If I got an email with a subject line like that, I would erase it, instantly!
 In either OS.  And I have a pretty good email checker in Windows, but 
 nothing, after all, is perfect!

In windows, yes. In Linux, it should be perfectly harmless, or it is a 
bug. It is just text, after all. And I was curious, because it seemed like 
a bash script in a single line (if it is, I don't know what it could be), 
so I tried.

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   Carlos E. R.

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Re: [opensuse]

2007-09-26 Thread James Knott
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 On 9/26/07, Doctor Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 How do I play mp3 files with amarok, audacious, banshee, etc. on
 openSUSE?  I have the Packman repository enabled, but not sure what
 package(s) I need from there.

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 Writing from my memory:

   
Don't you usually read from memory?  ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread James Knott
Ron Eggler wrote:
 Hi,

 Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and 
 ask 
 here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print 
 just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In 
 Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. 
 Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then 
 it 
 still can't find it and i will need to install it manually.
 Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but 
 when 
 i try to print something it tells me Access denied, unable to connect.
 I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client 
 just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated!
 Thanks tons!
   
Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download
anything.  Just configure to use http or ipp printing.

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Re: [opensuse] is there a Firefox 2.0.0.7 update

2007-09-26 Thread Basil Chupin

Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

Hi,

Sunny wrote:
  

On 9/25/07, Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sep 25 2007 16:36, Sunny wrote:
  

Hi,
my windows install of firefox reported a few days ago that there is an
update to 2.0.0.7, but I still do not see it for opensuse 10.2. Am I
missing something? Or it is not yet released?


IIRC, Windows-only 'bugfix' that was.
  

but according to this link there is 2.0.0.7 for linux:
http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0.0.7os=linuxlang=en-US

Yes, I agree that this can be only windows bugfix, but it'll be better
if we keep up with the versioning scheme.




2.0.0.7 was a Windows only release. The reason there is a Linux 2.0.0.7
version from upstream is simply to show that Linux is not behind
Windows. I see no reason to provide a 2.0.0.7 package right now just for
the sake of it. It would be simply binary identical.

Wolfgang
  


Which, to me, what you stated is simply illogical - otherwise the people 
at Mozilla.org would also be stating, and doing nothing, as you just did.


Irrespective of the above, even though I do allow SuSE to install a copy 
of Firefox as part of the normal SuSE installation, I always install, 
and use, the version of Firefox, and Thunderbird, from Mozilla.org and 
doing so I always know that I am up-to-date with the latest versions 
because they update themselves (and any themes/extensions) from Mozilla.org.


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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Sep 26 2007 07:30, James Knott wrote:

 Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and 
 ask 
 here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print 
 just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In 
 Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. 
 Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then 
 it 
 still can't find it and i will need to install it manually.
 Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but 
 when 
 i try to print something it tells me Access denied, unable to connect.
 I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client 
 just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated!
 Thanks tons!
   
Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download
anything.  Just configure to use http or ipp printing.

Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part
prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site;
a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]

[2] http://jengelh.hopto.org/f/cups6c.zip
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Re: [opensuse] Ever Seen these Mail Errors? Sandy?

2007-09-26 Thread David C. Rankin
Dave Howorth wrote:
 David C. Rankin wrote:
  From Google it looks like a problem with the cron MAILTO variable, but
 what that is or where I fix it is still alluding me. Can't wait to shoot
 this box in the head when 10.3 comes out
 
 At the top of your cron file, just add a line like:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Cheers, Dave

Ahah! Thanks Dave!

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Re: [opensuse] A subject line crashes email program

2007-09-26 Thread David C. Rankin
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 The Tuesday 2007-09-25 at 17:43 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
 
 If I got an email with a subject line like that, I would erase it, instantly!
 In either OS.  And I have a pretty good email checker in Windows, but 
 nothing, after all, is perfect!
 
 In windows, yes. In Linux, it should be perfectly harmless, or it is a 
 bug. It is just text, after all. And I was curious, because it seemed like 
 a bash script in a single line (if it is, I don't know what it could be), 
 so I tried.
 

Carlos, can you dump the mail to text and look at it in a hex editor to
see if it contains any of the extended ASCII character set that might
cause the problem. Or can you just look at /var/spool/mail/carlos
directly with the hex editor?

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Re: [opensuse] is there a Firefox 2.0.0.7 update

2007-09-26 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Hi,

Basil Chupin wrote:

 my windows install of firefox reported a few days ago that there is an
 update to 2.0.0.7, but I still do not see it for opensuse 10.2. Am I
 missing something? Or it is not yet released?
 
 IIRC, Windows-only 'bugfix' that was.
   
 but according to this link there is 2.0.0.7 for linux:
 http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0.0.7os=linuxlang=en-US


 Yes, I agree that this can be only windows bugfix, but it'll be better
 if we keep up with the versioning scheme.

 2.0.0.7 was a Windows only release. The reason there is a Linux 2.0.0.7
 version from upstream is simply to show that Linux is not behind
 Windows. I see no reason to provide a 2.0.0.7 package right now just for
 the sake of it. It would be simply binary identical.

 Wolfgang
   
 
 Which, to me, what you stated is simply illogical - otherwise the people
 at Mozilla.org would also be stating, and doing nothing, as you just did.

Although only Windows appears to be vulnerable we will be releasing on
all platforms to avoid confusion about what the most recent version is.
This is the statement I know from the Mozilla Corporation.

 Irrespective of the above, even though I do allow SuSE to install a copy
 of Firefox as part of the normal SuSE installation, I always install,
 and use, the version of Firefox, and Thunderbird, from Mozilla.org and
 doing so I always know that I am up-to-date with the latest versions
 because they update themselves (and any themes/extensions) from
 Mozilla.org.

The RPM version also updates themes and extensions but obviously no new
application.
You can do whatever you want but at least I take my responsiblity for
the mozilla buildservice repository pretty serious. So usually (as long
as I'm alive and doing that repo) you can expect that you don't have to
wait longer for security fixes and the most recent features when
updating from that repo.


Wolfgang
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Re: [opensuse] Missing OOo 2.3 Dependency in STABLE Branch?

2007-09-26 Thread L. Mark Stone

- Joe Morris (NTM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On 09/25/2007 11:21 PM, L. Mark Stone wrote:
|  Looks like the the rpm OpenOffice.org (framework only) has a
| dependency for requiring OpenOffice-icon-themes, which rpm is missing
| from both the STABLE and UNSTABLE branches, at least on
| ftp-1.gwdg.de.
| 
|  Anyone find this elsewhere?
| 
|
| It is in the noarch directory.
| 
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| 

I found it there manually, but YaST didn't (at first), hence, my post.  Looks 
like the packages got refreshed because YaST found it later.


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[opensuse] Fujitsu Siemens Primergy Econel 100 with Sata Raid 1

2007-09-26 Thread Vinzenz Bargsten

Hi,

I'm at installing opensuse 10.2 on a Fujitsu Siemens Primergy Econel 100 
Server with Raid 1.
I have 2 Sata Hdds installed and want these to be in a Raid 1 array. So 
I first configured the raid in the LSI bios,

then as this page

http://en.opensuse.org/How_to_install_SUSE_Linux_on_software_RAID

told me for fakeraid (it is fakeraid, isnt it?!)

If you want to install the kind of RAID that is supported by some 
motherboards (so called fakeRAID), just enable RAID in your BIOS and 
install as usual.
NOTE: FakeRAID is only supported by openSUSE 10.2 or later. Earlier 
versions of SUSE DO NOT support fakeRAID


I started the installation as normal though both drives, sda and sdb, 
showed up.
So I partitioned sda and installed on it, the system booted and it works 
so far, except the raid.
I do not find much useful documentation on the net for 10.2 and such a 
raid, nor on those server cds. What can you recommend?


thanks i advance
vb
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Re: [opensuse] is there a Firefox 2.0.0.7 update

2007-09-26 Thread Sunny
On 9/26/07, Wolfgang Rosenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Although only Windows appears to be vulnerable we will be releasing on
 all platforms to avoid confusion about what the most recent version is.
 This is the statement I know from the Mozilla Corporation.

snip
 The RPM version also updates themes and extensions but obviously no new
 application.
 You can do whatever you want but at least I take my responsiblity for
 the mozilla buildservice repository pretty serious. So usually (as long
 as I'm alive and doing that repo) you can expect that you don't have to
 wait longer for security fixes and the most recent features when
 updating from that repo.


Wolfgang,
many thanks for the builds and the efforts. I just missed to check
with mozilla site to see why there is no opensuse update, while there
is for windows. Now, imagine, that was not me, but a regular
(non-geek) user - what impression they will have, different than
opensuse is not up to date...

Cheers,
and again thanks for the responses and the builds.

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Re: [opensuse]

2007-09-26 Thread Doctor Who
On 9/26/07, Doctor Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/26/07, Doctor Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 9/26/07, joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Doctor Who wrote:
  
It appears I have some of the packages installed (like kaffeine) from
the OSS repo already.  It does not apppear that with the new software
installer I have the ability to choose software by repo.
   
In other words, I cannot easily choose to install kaffeine from packman 
vs. OSS.
   
Am I missing something?  Do I need to find all installed OSS
multimedia packages, uninstall them, then install their packman
equivalents?
  
   No need - if you install libxine1, it only comes from packman. That's the
   non-crippled back end that will allow xine  kaffeine to play all the 
   usual
   media types. Also, if you look closely at the packages in yast software
   management, it will tell you if it's the suse build or the packman or guru
   build - amarok will have a suse and a guru build. OTOH mplayer IIRC is 
   only
   from packman and not suse.
  
   Joe
  
 
  Yes, but, for example, I have kaffeine installed.  It is from the OSS
  repo.  I need the one from packman.  I can't easily (that I can see)
  select the kaffeine version from packman to install with Software
  Management.
 
  If both repos are enabled, whatever is installed shows up in both
  Available and Installed columns (in this case the OSS version).  I
  can't replace it with the packman version.
 
  The older Software Manager allowed you to see packages by repo.  This
  one appartently does not.
 

 OK, so both XMMS and Amarok will play mp3 files on this machine.
 However, audacious and Banshee (looks to be plain and not
 helix-banshee) will not.

 These are (of course) the 2 players I would like to get working.

 Any ideas?


OK, so uninstalling/reinstalling both audacious and helix-banshee got
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[opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-26 Thread primm
Hi
I have setup a vsftpd server and it works fine. Users can login and are 
chroote'd to their home folders.

I have allowed myself to break out of the chroot because I want to manage 
files under /srv/www/htdocs remotely. But I do not have permissions to do 
anything there. Stuff under htdocs is owned by root:root on the server but 
ftp'ing in here it's owned by 0:0. How can I give myself permission to the 
htdocs folder?

Thanks. Lynn
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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread James Knott

Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Sep 26 2007 07:30, James Knott wrote:
  
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask 
here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print 
just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In 
Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. 
Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it 
still can't find it and i will need to install it manually.
Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when 
i try to print something it tells me Access denied, unable to connect.
I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client 
just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated!

Thanks tons!
  
  

Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download
anything.  Just configure to use http or ipp printing.



Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part
prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site;
a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]

[2] http://jengelh.hopto.org/f/cups6c.zip
  
I have never had to download a driver, postscript or other, to talk to 
CUPS.  I simply configure CUPS for the printer and then point the 
Windows computer at the CUPS server.  However, you may need a printer 
driver for Windows, if the printer is not already supported.  But then 
you'd need that, even if directly connected to the printer.




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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Sep 26 2007 11:42, James Knott wrote:

 Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part
 prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site;
 a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]

 [2] http://jengelh.hopto.org/f/cups6c.zip
   
 I have never had to download a driver, postscript or other, to talk
 to CUPS.  I simply configure CUPS for the printer and then point
 the Windows computer at the CUPS server.  However, you may need a
 printer driver for Windows, if the printer is not already
 supported.

Well well, hold it. Sometimes there is a reason you want Windows
to send Postscript instead of raster or printer-specific command (aka
raw).. which is what most printer drivers actually do. For example,
if you want job logging[1] or let CUPS do the rasterization, or...

[1] gv /var/spool/cups/d01234-001
yup, that's all and you know what your users printed. :)
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[opensuse] Opensuse software updates and repositories?

2007-09-26 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Hi all,

I would like to clear my understanding up on the opensuse software
management side.

After the distro is first installed, and provided no online updates have
been done during the install, there will normally be a requirement to
obtain the latest software versions of the installed packages.

To do so opensuse makes use of software repositories which are similar
to Windows Update sources, although far more error resistant. These
software repositories are accessible by the YAST software tool and need
to be defined in the installation sources under YAST.

As an example let us assume I have just installed an opensuse  system
with OpenOffice.org,Thunderbird and Firefox. Other applications have
been installed but I will let the normal system updates take care of those.

I add a general installation source
http://opensuse.oorg/pub/opensuse/update/10.2 to take care of the
general system health, security updates.
I would however like to stay on the bleeding edge of the opensuse
stable/tested software for Mozilla Thunderbird/Firefox and OO.org.

I see that there is a mirror called
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/package name/STABLE/10.2/
where package name could be the name of the application ie Firefox,
OpenOffice or Thunderbird.

Do I add the http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/package
name/STABLE/10.2/ repository and will having it ensure that the latest
opensuse stable releases will prompt me to update via opensuseupdater or
will the initial update source I added cater for all package updates?

If I load a package that is not normally included in the DVD, but is in
RPM format and has an update section on one of te mirrors, do I go and
search for that update repository?

Confused about the myriad of  installation sources/mirrors and package
rpm sources. And I have not as yet found anything on the net but would
appreciate pointers to learning more ie RTFMing :)

TIA
Hylton
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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread David C. Rankin
Ron Eggler wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and 
 ask 
 here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print 
 just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In 
 Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. 
 Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then 
 it 
 still can't find it and i will need to install it manually.
 Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but 
 when 
 i try to print something it tells me Access denied, unable to connect.
 I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client 
 just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated!
 Thanks tons!


Ron,

I don't know if my original post got through, if so I apologize, but in
addition to the above make sure you see man lppasswd and make sure the
windows user and password have an entry in lppasswd because windows
tries to auth by sending the windows login and password.

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[opensuse] opensuse 10.2 cpu info wrong

2007-09-26 Thread Vahe Avedissian
Folks,

I am not sure this is an opensuse 10.2, or motherboard, or bios bug, but when I 
cat /proc/cpuinfo, I get two different speeds listed for two
identical cpus on in my system (look at the listed cpu MHz entries) :

 more /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 33
model name  : Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx
 mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy
bogomips: 2010.84
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 33
model name  : Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 1
cpu cores   : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx
 mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy
bogomips: 2010.84
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp

processor   : 2
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 33
model name  : Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 2000.000
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 1
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx
 mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat  /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 33
model name  : Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 
3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy
bogomips: 2010.84
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 33
model name  : Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 1
cpu cores   : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 
3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy
bogomips: 2010.84
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp

processor   : 2
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 33
model name  : Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 2000.000
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 1
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 
3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy
bogomips: 4021.69
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp

processor   : 3
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 33
model name  : Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 2000.000
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 1
siblings: 2
core id : 1
cpu cores   : 2
fpu

Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.2 cpu info wrong

2007-09-26 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Vahe Avedissian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Folks,

 I am not sure this is an opensuse 10.2, or motherboard, or bios bug, but when 
 I cat /proc/cpuinfo, I get two different speeds listed for two
 identical cpus on in my system (look at the listed cpu MHz entries) :

  more /proc/cpuinfo
 processor   : 0
 vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
 cpu family  : 15
 model   : 33
 model name  : Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270
 stepping: 2
 cpu MHz : 1000.000

That is the frequency the cpu currently runs at.  We power down the cpu
when it's idle.  Give it some more to do and it will increase again.

The feature is called cpu frequency scaling, you can control it with the
powersave command.

Everything is working fine ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] Opensuse software updates and repositories?

2007-09-26 Thread David C. Rankin
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I would like to clear my understanding up on the opensuse software
 management side.
 
 After the distro is first installed, and provided no online updates have
 been done during the install, there will normally be a requirement to
 obtain the latest software versions of the installed packages.
 
 To do so opensuse makes use of software repositories which are similar
 to Windows Update sources, although far more error resistant. These
 software repositories are accessible by the YAST software tool and need
 to be defined in the installation sources under YAST.
 

Not for security updates, just software management repositories. Yast
will check for security update sites and give you the option of which to
use.

Yast-software management gives you the ability to 'update' all packages
when a newer version is posted regardless of whether it is security
related or not. For software management see:

http://en.opensuse.org/Add_Package_Repositories_to_YaST

http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories

 As an example let us assume I have just installed an opensuse  system
 with OpenOffice.org,Thunderbird and Firefox. Other applications have
 been installed but I will let the normal system updates take care of those.
 
 I add a general installation source
 http://opensuse.oorg/pub/opensuse/update/10.2 to take care of the
 general system health, security updates.
 I would however like to stay on the bleeding edge of the opensuse
 stable/tested software for Mozilla Thunderbird/Firefox and OO.org.
 
 I see that there is a mirror called
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/package name/STABLE/10.2/
 where package name could be the name of the application ie Firefox,
 OpenOffice or Thunderbird.
 
 Do I add the http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/package
 name/STABLE/10.2/ repository and will having it ensure that the latest
 opensuse stable releases will prompt me to update via opensuseupdater or
 will the initial update source I added cater for all package updates?

Not sure about the opensuseupdater function, but all else is correct. In
yast-software management you can select update all packages and get a
list of all software updates availabe.

 
 If I load a package that is not normally included in the DVD, but is in
 RPM format and has an update section on one of te mirrors, do I go and
 search for that update repository?
 

No, with a few exceptions, the links above provide you with a pretty
thorough list of the repositories available. You can manually add Samba,
and some others, but with a fairly complete install of bleeding edge
10.2 stuff, I have found that the listed repositories do a fairly
complete job of keeping you updated.

If you really want to stay on the bleading-bleading edge, and are
feeling adventurous, choose yast-System Update.

 Confused about the myriad of  installation sources/mirrors and package
 rpm sources. And I have not as yet found anything on the net but would
 appreciate pointers to learning more ie RTFMing :)
 
 TIA
 Hylton

You have it 99% right.

Yast-Online Update  =  Security updates/recommended updates
Yast-Software Mgmt  =  add/remove or update to all newer packages
Yast-System Update  =  Bleeding edge kernel, etc. courtesy of Jan
Englehardt.


Great system that works very well 99.5% of the time. This list is for
the other 0.5%.


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Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.2 cpu info wrong

2007-09-26 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Sep 26 2007 19:29, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Vahe Avedissian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Folks,

 I am not sure this is an opensuse 10.2, or motherboard, or bios bug, but 
 when I cat /proc/cpuinfo, I get two different speeds listed for two
 identical cpus on in my system (look at the listed cpu MHz entries) :

  more /proc/cpuinfo
 processor   : 0
 vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
 cpu family  : 15
 model   : 33
 model name  : Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270
 stepping: 2
 cpu MHz : 1000.000

That is the frequency the cpu currently runs at.  We power down the cpu
when it's idle.  Give it some more to do and it will increase again.

The feature is called cpu frequency scaling, you can control it with the
powersave command.

Everything is working fine ;-)

Is it possible that there is a kernel-level 'race' here while it fetches 
information for each core? I.e. if frequency is changed due to whatever 
reason between two successive show_cpuinfo()? [Yes, it looks like]
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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3

2007-09-26 Thread Petr Mladek
On Tuesday 25 September 2007, L. Mark Stone wrote:
 Petr,

 Thanks for taking care of all of this. Everything installed OK.

 One note: the NLD artwork still says version 2.1, even though this is
 version 2.3.

Good point. I have asked our artwork maestro to provide updated pictures.


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Re: [opensuse] Novell/SUSE at OOoCon 2007

2007-09-26 Thread Francis Giannaros
On 9/22/07, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This isn't 100% about openSUSE... but thoguht it was interesting
 enough to share with the group here.  I just spent a very busy and
 interesting weel in Barcelona at OOoCon 2007.  Novell/SUSE was quite
 visible... and the only Linux vendor in sight.  Maybe that is due to
 the massive amount of work that Novell contributes to the OOo project.
  There were loads on openSUSE10.2 DVDs floating around, and I know of
 a few people who are now very interested in openSUSE as a result of
 tinkering with the DVD that was handed out.

 Something I observed... A few of the presenters (outside of the Novell
 guys) were running some variation of SUSE.  All the SUSE guys had
 (generally) no problems at all when they connected their laptops to
 the projectors.  It just worked.  The guys who were running Ubuntu had
 resolution issues... switching to the projector was... very
 problematic for them.  It was nice to see SUSE just working.. and a
 few people noticed and started asking a lot of questions (to me
 anyway)

 Hubert Fuguiere's presentation on OfficeOpenXML and Novell's work on
 it with OOo was quite interesting as was Noel Power's presentation on
 VBA and OOo.  The video of the presentations aren't all up just yet,
 but once the KiberPiper guys get home and process the hours of video
 they made it will be here:
 http://ooocon-kiberpipa.kiberpipa.org/media/index-2007.html

 Probably the most fascinating (and also the hardest to understand) was
 the stuff from Red Office 2000 (the Chinese presenters).  If you get a
 chance, take a look at what they did to make the Chinese version of
 OOo.  They totally reworked the UI, and the first question that was
 asked was... Is there an English version?  I wonder of some of the
 concepts they came up with could be applied to Linux in general?

 Anyway... it was an amazing conference... and it was nice to see
 openSUSE so visible.

Great to hear! Thanks for sharing :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Thinking about the 10-month release schedule

2007-09-26 Thread Tero Pesonen
On Tuesday 25 September 2007, Damon Register wrote:
 Greg Freemyer wrote:
  I'm not sure I was complaining, just caught me off guard that in
  Sept. 2007 I install the best non-beta version of opensuse and 15
  months later I will lose support for it.  Somehow it seems the timing
  if funky.

 I am following this thread and it just made me think of something.
 I assume that loss of support means that SuSE will not put more updates
 on servers but does this also mean that existing patches will not be
 available either?  If for some reason I am still using 10.2 two years
 from now and I needed to reinstall for some reason, would I find any
 updates at all?

With 9.3 they removed all that was under the supplementay folder in the 
old FTP hierarchy, and all that had been moved over to 
software.opensuse.org (i.e. new KDE, GNOME etc. packages). They kept the 
patches that had been provided against the original version.
f.e.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/9.3
is still there.

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[opensuse] USR5610C

2007-09-26 Thread Fred A. Miller
The USR5610C PCI modem arrived today, and I guess I should have known it
wouldn't fly out of the box. :( Yast SEEMS to see it, but I get the
error: Unable to create the modem lock file when trying to connect
with KPPP. I did make myself a member of the modem group. Nothing I've
tried works. Does anyone know of a fix?

Thanks!

Fred

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[opensuse] Sending MMS

2007-09-26 Thread Ciro Iriarte
Hi,

Slightly off topic, but is there anyone that found a way to send a
picture in a MMS using a cell phone / grps modem?. Gammu seems to have
the option to do it, but every picture format i try is reported as
unsupported

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RE: [opensuse] USR5610C

2007-09-26 Thread David Rankin
 -Original Message-
 From: Fred A. Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:35 PM
 To: opensuse
 Subject: [opensuse] USR5610C
 
 The USR5610C PCI modem arrived today, and I guess I should 
 have known it wouldn't fly out of the box. :( Yast SEEMS to 
 see it, but I get the
 error: Unable to create the modem lock file when trying to 
 connect with KPPP. I did make myself a member of the modem 
 group. Nothing I've tried works. Does anyone know of a fix?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Fred
 

Fred,

I think it is the 'uucp' group. If that fails, try the 'sys' group.
My modem is /dev/ttyS1. Here is the way my serial ports are owned:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/david # ll /dev/ttyS*
crw-rw  1 root uucp 4, 64 2007-09-25 16:48 /dev/ttyS0
crw---  1 uucp uucp 4, 65 2007-09-25 16:49 /dev/ttyS1
crw-rw  1 root uucp 4, 66 2007-09-25 16:46 /dev/ttyS2
crw-rw  1 root uucp 4, 67 2007-09-25 16:46 /dev/ttyS3
crw-rw  1 root uucp 4, 68 2007-09-25 16:46 /dev/ttyS4
crw-rw  1 root uucp 4, 69 2007-09-25 16:46 /dev/ttyS5
crw-rw  1 root uucp 4, 70 2007-09-25 16:46 /dev/ttyS6
crw-rw  1 root uucp 4, 71 2007-09-25 16:46 /dev/ttyS7

Also, depending on the application I often create the link 'ln -s
/dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem' to help the older software out



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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-26 Thread Theo v. Werkhoven
Wed, 26 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi
 I have setup a vsftpd server and it works fine. Users can login and are 
 chroote'd to their home folders.
 
 I have allowed myself to break out of the chroot because I want to manage 
 files under /srv/www/htdocs remotely. But I do not have permissions to do 
 anything there. Stuff under htdocs is owned by root:root on the server but 
 ftp'ing in here it's owned by 0:0. How can I give myself permission to the 
 htdocs folder?

Make htdocs owned by another user. I've setup an 'ftpadmin' user for this.
Let htdocs be the (chrooted) home dir of ftpadmin and logged in as this
user you can do what you need.

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[opensuse] OOo 2.3 update

2007-09-26 Thread Chris Arnold
I updated to OOo2.3 using the openoffice:stable repo at opensuse.org. I
use sled sp1 and now when trying to open any OOo file, i am first
presented with a filter selection dialog with 3 choices: OO.org 1.0
chart, help content and OpenDocument chart. If i select one of those
options and click ok it only opens what ever it is i selected (OO.org
1.0 chart, help content and OpenDocument chart). If i cancel that box
i am presented with a templates and documents dialog. What happened? I
can not open any OOo files. How to fix this?
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Re: [opensuse] is there a Firefox 2.0.0.7 update

2007-09-26 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 09/26/2007 10:33 PM, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
 The RPM version also updates themes and extensions but obviously no new
 application.
 You can do whatever you want but at least I take my responsiblity for
 the mozilla buildservice repository pretty serious. So usually (as long
 as I'm alive and doing that repo) you can expect that you don't have to
 wait longer for security fixes and the most recent features when
 updating from that repo.

   
Your work is greatly appreciated.  If they are binary equal, the number
means little to me.  I can certainly wait for a really newer version and
not be bothered about frivolous numbers.  I can certainly trust your
judgment in that, you make the work of keeping up with firefox and
thunderbird so much easier than it used to be.  Thanks for all the work
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Re: [opensuse] OOo 2.3 update

2007-09-26 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 09/27/2007 06:48 AM, ianseeks wrote:
 I am also struggling with this update.  Its giving me a mix of 2.3.0 and 
 2.0.4 
 and insists on installing a package with devel in the name when its from 
 the STABLE repository.
 I get that templates templates dialog and the app then vanishes when finally 
 selecting a file to open
   
I saw that problem.  Check your package arch.  It is probably updating
the main package, which is i586, but seeing you run x86_64 and trying to
install the rest as x86_64.  If that is correct, just go in to the
packages you want to install, and specify the i586 version.  Then it
will install happily without the devel package.

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Re: [opensuse] OOo 2.3 update

2007-09-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chris Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-26-07 18:29]:
 I updated to OOo2.3 using the openoffice:stable repo at opensuse.org. I
 use sled sp1 and now when trying to open any OOo file, i am first
 presented with a filter selection dialog with 3 choices: OO.org 1.0
 chart, help content and OpenDocument chart. If i select one of those
 options and click ok it only opens what ever it is i selected (OO.org
 1.0 chart, help content and OpenDocument chart). If i cancel that box
 i am presented with a templates and documents dialog. What happened? I
 can not open any OOo files. How to fix this?

The OpenOffice_org package was splitted as everyone does not need all
the applications.  You need to install the packages you use.

OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-4.1
OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-513.1
OpenOffice_org-mono-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-nld-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-writer-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-calc-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-impress-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-testtool-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-base-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-kde-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-2.0.4-25.1
OpenOffice_org-officebean-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20070719-2.1
OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.0.1.2-3.1
OpenOffice_org-draw-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-filters-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-math-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-pyuno-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-templates-en-2.0.4-2.1
OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-2.1

There are also language packages and perhaps others that I am unaware.
All should be available in the OpenOffice:Stable repo at opensuse.org.
I installed via smart.

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Re: [opensuse] OOo 2.3 update

2007-09-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* ianseeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-26-07 18:48]:
 I am also struggling with this update.  Its giving me a mix of 2.3.0 and 
 2.0.4 
 and insists on installing a package with devel in the name when its from 
 the STABLE repository.
 I get that templates templates dialog and the app then vanishes when finally 
 selecting a file to open

See my answer to Chris Arnold earlier in this thread.

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Re: [opensuse] is there a Firefox 2.0.0.7 update

2007-09-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Joe Morris (NTM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-26-07 18:59]:
 Your work is greatly appreciated.  If they are binary equal, the
 number means little to me.  I can certainly wait for a really newer
 version and not be bothered about frivolous numbers.  I can certainly
 trust your judgment in that, you make the work of keeping up with
 firefox and thunderbird so much easier than it used to be.  Thanks for
 all the work you do.

+1  :^)

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Re: [opensuse] OOo 2.3 update

2007-09-26 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 09/27/2007 06:22 AM, Chris Arnold wrote:
 I updated to OOo2.3 using the openoffice:stable repo at opensuse.org. I
 use sled sp1 and now when trying to open any OOo file, i am first
 presented with a filter selection dialog with 3 choices: OO.org 1.0
 chart, help content and OpenDocument chart. If i select one of those
 options and click ok it only opens what ever it is i selected (OO.org
 1.0 chart, help content and OpenDocument chart). If i cancel that box
 i am presented with a templates and documents dialog. What happened? I
 can not open any OOo files. How to fix this?
   
Did you install the -filters package? i.e, on 10.2 I have installed
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep OpenOffice_org
OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-2.1
OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-calc-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-4.1
OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-filters-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-514
OpenOffice_org-pyuno-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-2.0.4-25.1
OpenOffice_org-math-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-openclipart-2-3.1
OpenOffice_org-impress-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-templates-en-2.0.4-10
OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20070719-2.1
OpenOffice_org-writer-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-4.1
OpenOffice_org-base-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-draw-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.0.1.2-3.1
OpenOffice_org-kde-2.3.0.1.2-2.1

Here, mine open as normal.  I am running the x86_64 version on x86_64 OS.

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Re: [opensuse] OOo 2.3 update

2007-09-26 Thread russbucket
On Wednesday September 26 2007 16:03, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * Chris Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-26-07 18:29]:
  I updated to OOo2.3 using the openoffice:stable repo at opensuse.org. I
  use sled sp1 and now when trying to open any OOo file, i am first
  presented with a filter selection dialog with 3 choices: OO.org 1.0
  chart, help content and OpenDocument chart. If i select one of those
  options and click ok it only opens what ever it is i selected (OO.org
  1.0 chart, help content and OpenDocument chart). If i cancel that box
  i am presented with a templates and documents dialog. What happened? I
  can not open any OOo files. How to fix this?

 The OpenOffice_org package was splitted as everyone does not need all
 the applications.  You need to install the packages you use.

 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-4.1
 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-513.1
 OpenOffice_org-mono-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-nld-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-writer-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-calc-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-impress-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-testtool-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-base-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-kde-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-2.0.4-25.1
 OpenOffice_org-officebean-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20070719-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.0.1.2-3.1
 OpenOffice_org-draw-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-filters-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-math-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-pyuno-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-2.0.4-2.1
 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-2.1

 There are also language packages and perhaps others that I am unaware.
 All should be available in the OpenOffice:Stable repo at opensuse.org.
 I installed via smart.

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Just a note: I did the install yesterday and my Quickstarter is 1.0-514. Not 
sure which repository it came from. Noticed YaST used several including 
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Re: [opensuse] OOo 2.3 update

2007-09-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* russbucket [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-26-07 21:19]:
 On Wednesday September 26 2007 16:03, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
...
  OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-513.1
...

 Just a note: I did the install yesterday and my Quickstarter is 1.0-514. Not 
 sure which repository it came from. Noticed YaST used several including 
 STABLE

This was on 10.1 x86_64 and is the latest available:

21:30 wahoo:~  webpin OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter
... performing request on
http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/searchservice/SearchService/Search/Simple/SUSE_Linux_101/OpenOffice_org-QuickstartQuery
 URL: 
http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/searchservice/SearchService/Search/Simple/SUSE_Linux_101/OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter
 10 results (3 packages) found for OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter in 
SUSE_Linux_101
* OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter: OpenOffice.org Quickstarter
   installed: OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-513.1 [x86_64]
   - 1.0 [suse-oss{i586,ppc,x86_64} 
|http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/EXTRAS/SUSE_Linux_10.1{i586,x86_64}]
 (SAME)
 @ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/suse
 @ 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/EXTRAS/SUSE_Linux_10.1
  /usr/share/doc/packages/OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter/AUTHORS


ps: Please take a moment to trim your quotes.  It will be appreciated,
tks
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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread Ron Eggler
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 04:30:44 am James Knott wrote:
 Ron Eggler wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come
  and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i
  can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows
  client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up
  nicely.
  Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but
  then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually.
  Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but
  when i try to print something it tells me Access denied, unable to
  connect. I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my
  suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be
  appreciated!
  Thanks tons!

 Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download
 anything.  Just configure to use http or ipp printing.

 Uhm, how do I do either or, i can't remember to have set such an option in 
cupsd.conf :o

Thanks,
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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread Ron Eggler
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 05:50:01 am Jan Engelhardt wrote:
 On Sep 26 2007 07:30, James Knott wrote:
  Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come
  and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i
  can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows
  client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up
  nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the
  system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it
  manually.
  Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s)
  but when i try to print something it tells me Access denied, unable to
  connect. I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my
  suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be
  appreciated!
  Thanks tons!
 
 Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download
 anything.  Just configure to use http or ipp printing.

 Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part
 prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site;
 a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]

 [2] http://jengelh.hopto.org/f/cups6c.zip
Huh, don't i need to use the vendor's driver anyways? (If not included in 
Windows)



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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread Ron Eggler
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 09:42:31 am Jan Engelhardt wrote:
 On Sep 26 2007 11:42, James Knott wrote:
  Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part
  prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site;
  a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]
 
  [2] http://jengelh.hopto.org/f/cups6c.zip
 
  I have never had to download a driver, postscript or other, to talk
  to CUPS.  I simply configure CUPS for the printer and then point
  the Windows computer at the CUPS server.  However, you may need a
  printer driver for Windows, if the printer is not already
  supported.

 Well well, hold it. Sometimes there is a reason you want Windows
 to send Postscript instead of raster or printer-specific command (aka
 raw).. which is what most printer drivers actually do. For example,
 if you want job logging[1] or let CUPS do the rasterization, or...

 [1] gv /var/spool/cups/d01234-001
 yup, that's all and you know what your users printed. :)

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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread Ron Eggler
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:21:45 am David C. Rankin wrote:
 Ron Eggler wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come
  and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i
  can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows
  client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up
  nicely.
  Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but
  then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually.
  Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but
  when i try to print something it tells me Access denied, unable to
  connect. I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my
  suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be
  appreciated!
  Thanks tons!

 Ron,

   I don't know if my original post got through, if so I apologize, but in
 addition to the above make sure you see man lppasswd and make sure the
 windows user and password have an entry in lppasswd because windows
 tries to auth by sending the windows login and password.

Really? Can't i just open it up for the whole network with no authentication? 
Does every Windows user need to be added?
I tried:
lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' and got this:
server:~ # lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler'
Enter password: {no password so i hit [enter]}
Enter password again: {[enter] again}
lppasswd: Sorry, password rejected.
Your password must be at least 6 characters long, cannot contain
your username, and must contain at least one letter and number.
server:~ #

So does it require a Windows password? Hmm weird, there must be a possibility 
to just open it up somehow i think, no?
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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread Ron Eggler
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 08:42:12 am James Knott wrote:
 Jan Engelhardt wrote:
  On Sep 26 2007 07:30, James Knott wrote:
  Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come
  and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and
  i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows
  client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up
  nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the
  system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it
  manually.
  Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s)
  but when i try to print something it tells me Access denied, unable to
  connect. I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my
  suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be
  appreciated!
  Thanks tons!
 
  Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download
  anything.  Just configure to use http or ipp printing.
 
  Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part
  prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site;
  a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]
 
  [2] http://jengelh.hopto.org/f/cups6c.zip

 I have never had to download a driver, postscript or other, to talk to
 CUPS.  I simply configure CUPS for the printer and then point the
 Windows computer at the CUPS server.  However, you may need a printer
 driver for Windows, if the printer is not already supported.  But then
 you'd need that, even if directly connected to the printer.

Exactly, but that still doesn't resolve the issue of my No access problem.
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[opensuse] QSqlite Driver

2007-09-26 Thread Daniel Antonio Peraza Cedrez
Hi, I would like to request some help to get me started with the
QSQLITE plugin. I would like to know how to open the DB file and start
make some queries. Thanks.
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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread David C. Rankin
Ron Eggler wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:21:45 am David C. Rankin wrote:
 Ron Eggler wrote:
 Hi,

 Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come
 and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i
 can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows
 client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up
 nicely.
 Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but
 then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually.
 Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but
 when i try to print something it tells me Access denied, unable to
 connect. I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my
 suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be
 appreciated!
 Thanks tons!
 Ron,

  I don't know if my original post got through, if so I apologize, but in
 addition to the above make sure you see man lppasswd and make sure the
 windows user and password have an entry in lppasswd because windows
 tries to auth by sending the windows login and password.
 
 Really? Can't i just open it up for the whole network with no authentication? 
 Does every Windows user need to be added?
 I tried:
 lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' and got this:
 server:~ # lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler'
 Enter password: {no password so i hit [enter]}
 Enter password again: {[enter] again}
 lppasswd: Sorry, password rejected.
 Your password must be at least 6 characters long, cannot contain
 your username, and must contain at least one letter and number.
 server:~ #
 
 So does it require a Windows password? Hmm weird, there must be a possibility 
 to just open it up somehow i think, no?

Ron

There is and that is/should be the default! See /etc/cups/cups.conf:

Location /printers/name
#
# You may wish to limit access to printers and classes, either with Allow
# and Deny lines, or by requiring a username and password.
#

## Anonymous access (default)
AuthType None

## Require a username and password (Basic authentication)
#AuthType Basic
#AuthClass User

## Require a username and password (Digest/MD5 authentication)
#AuthType Digest
#AuthClass User

## Restrict access to local domain
#Order Deny,Allow
#Deny From All
#Allow From .mydomain.com
/Location

Location /admin
#
# You definitely will want to limit access to the administration functions.
# The default configuration requires a local connection from a user who
# is a member of the system group to do any admin tasks.  You can change
# the group name using the SystemGroup directive.
#

AuthType BasicDigest
AuthClass Group
AuthGroupName sys

## Restrict access to local domain
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
Allow From @LOCAL
Allow From 66.76.63.60

Encryption Required
/Location


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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-26 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Sep 26 2007 18:48, Ron Eggler wrote:

 If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use Publish Printer in
 the CUPS webfrontend.

 If you use SMB printing from Windows, you can use samba's authentication
 controls (i.e. authenticated or guest mode) and all is well.

I use IPP, how do i use Publish Printer? - I don't see a link that's called
like that.

Publish Printer is a button in the CUPS web interface.

 Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part
 prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site;
 a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]

 [2] http://jengelh.hopto.org/f/cups6c.zip
Huh, don't i need to use the vendor's driver anyways? (If not included in 
Windows)

Two or more ways:
 - rasterization(Windows) - relay(CUPS) - printed page
 - postscriptize(Windows) - rasterize(CUPS) - printed page
(- postscriptize(Windows) - relay(CUPS) - rasterization(printer) - printed page)

The 3rd one does not always work, due to crappy printers that just
lock up because they feel like they do not have enough memory.

 Well well, hold it. Sometimes there is a reason you want Windows
 to send Postscript instead of raster or printer-specific command (aka
 raw).. which is what most printer drivers actually do. For example,
 if you want job logging[1] or let CUPS do the rasterization, or...

 [1] gv /var/spool/cups/d01234-001
 yup, that's all and you know what your users printed. :)

Would the result on paper be the same?

Generally yes.

  I don't know if my original post got through, if so I apologize, but in
 addition to the above make sure you see man lppasswd and make sure the
 windows user and password have an entry in lppasswd because windows
 tries to auth by sending the windows login and password.

Really? Can't i just open it up for the whole network with no authentication? 

By default, CUPS lets everyone print from localhost.
If you use Publish Printer you can print from everywhere.

Does every Windows user need to be added?

If you run with smb printing instead of ipp, it will do the right thing,
since you can force smb that authentication is a must.
As far as the linux world is considered, you always need to login
to the system anyway before sending a print job, so no problem here.

I tried:
lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' and got this:

lppasswd is not required in 10.2, it will use PAM.
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[opensuse] pre-install considerations for xen

2007-09-26 Thread ken

There's a couple reasons for running xen, but the major one for me is to
be able to run XP without having to reboot into it.  From reading some
docs though, it seems that I'd need a different CPU from what I have (an
Intel Pentium M processor, basically a Pentium 6 with mobility
technology).  So does this suck?  Or is it okay?

Secondly (if I get past the first hurdle, above), as is typical, XP was
installed when I bought the machine and I got no install CD.  Do I need
an install CD/DVD for XP to make it a domU?

The docs say that ACPI doesn't yet work on xen (meaning my battery's
going to drain faster), but that this should be fixed in future.  Has
this future come yet?  (Yeah, docs can go out-of-date.)


I'm due for an upgrade, would like to upgrade into xen, but I'm
pessimistic it'll work.  Does anyone have any firsthand experience with
any of this or otherwise have authoritative info?


Much appreciated.


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Re: [opensuse-packaging] My osc won't authenticate

2007-09-26 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 08:29 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:

 Can you make a bugreport for this in any case and attach the output 
 of osc -H ... ? Be warned, your password will be visible in the output.

Never mind, it seems that osc works now, after I've changed my password.
I swear it was correct before, but who knows :)

  Federico

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Template Translations

2007-09-26 Thread Stephan Binner
On Wednesday, 26. September 2007 05:24:22 Rajko M. wrote:

 I would remove template Translations, as it dominates screen, pulling

They plan is to remove it once the babel.opensuse.org concept is implemented:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=293726

Bye,
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Re: [opensuse-wiki] new skin management

2007-09-26 Thread Martin Lasarsch
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 00:13:53 Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 September 2007 00:00, Marco Stella wrote:

 Hi,

  2007/9/25, Marco Stella [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Sorry.. my fault.. perhaps a page refresh problem.
   Now it's ok. Thanks.
 
  Uhm.. was not my fault.
  The fact is: when logged in, in the Mainpage I see the right column,
  but when not logged in, I don't.
 
  Can you fix this?

 sounds like a server-side caching problem. Martin, Darix?

it works for me (not logged in) with ?action=purge

yes, seems to be a cache issue, which will be solved soon.
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