Re: [users] Old German Spelling
Please don't top post on this list. I know it is a common business practice but it can destroy readabilty in a threaded list. http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:11:32 +0100 Came this utterance fomulated by Zoé Skótos to my mailbox: > Hello again, > I know that and I set it under "Tool-Options" but I have had to make a > change, mark up all the text, set it under "Format" into German-German > and when I change it to German-Austria the spell check won't work and > I'm very dissapointed about it, if I would programm that way no one of > my programms would see a pixle (hehe). > Greets, Zoé > So we have eliminated most of the common issues. Have you talked to the german language project group? The dictionary author may be on their mailing list. http://de.openoffice.org/ > Michael Adams schrieb: > > On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:38:15 +0100 > > Came this utterance fomulated by Zoé Skótos to my mailbox: > > > >> Hello, > >> somehow the dictionary for old german spelling in OO.3.0.1 don't > >want> to work in the new release although I deinstalled the ugly new > >german> spelling, is it possible that someone will help me? > >> Greets Zoé > >> > > > > You can have multiple dictionaries installed without clash (although > > too many slows things down). > > > > Did you set your chosen dictionary in "Tools - Options" ( under > > "Language settings" from Memory) > > > > Lastly old dictionaries that worked with 2.X will not work on 3.X > > > -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Meta-Topic: Adding unsubscribed OPs to Reply-To header
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:13:24 + Came this utterance fomulated by Brian Barker to my mailbox: > At 14:04 08/02/2009 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >I often see some list members CC or forward replies to unsubscribed > >OPs. Can the list be changed so that if someone unsubscribed posts > >to the list, their address is added to the Reply-To header? > > The problem is actually the reverse of this: the list adds a > Reply-To: header to itself, but it has no business doing so. This is > forsworn by RFC 2822, which says 'When the "Reply-To:" field is > present, it indicates the mailbox(es) to which the *author* of the > message suggests that replies be sent" (my emphasis). > The list itself can be seen as the author of any email sent out to anyone on this list. I'd rather my MUA handled the reply's as i set it up to. I filter "moderated" emails to a seperate folder, then reply to all on that folder. Alas my MUA will not automatically reply to all on my behalf. > It is the author's choice to suggest where his or her replies are > addressed: that should be the only function of the Reply-To: header > (and few authors would need to include one). It is the privilege of > anyone choosing to reply to decide where to send his or her > reply. If the list did not add its own Reply-To: header, simply > using "reply to all" (or whatever) in a mail client would include the > author of the original message (and solve the problem). As it is, > this header suppresses the effects of both the From: address and any > Reply-To: address included by the author: that's the real problem. > My "Reply all" works as you describe here - no issues. It sounds MUA dependant. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [moderated] Downloading
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:40:38 -0500 Came this utterance fomulated by david crossley to my mailbox: > I have just today tried to download openoffice.org and subsequently > notified by e-mail that I am registered and logged in. Not sure what > to do at this point. You do not need to register or login to download. Just click on the download option (I want to download OpenOffice.org) on the home page: http://www.openoffice.org/ -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users][OT] Can we stop putting down other OS's?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:51:36 -0500 Came this utterance fomulated by James Knott to my mailbox: > Richard Detwiler wrote: > > Here were two responses to the recent thread: "Autosave STILL NOT > > WORKING"(And I acknowledge that the OP may have been a troll > > ...) > > > >> > >> In this case, I'd be temped to blame the OS. Just like when you > >pull> the power, a reboot during a file save can cause corruption. > >> Incidentally, a proper shutdown should cause all files to close > >> properly. You've just had an example of why Windows should not be > >used.> > > > >> > >> Headers show he's using T'Bird on Winders to post to the list. > >> > >> Nuff said. > > > > So basically these responses are saying "My OS is better than your > > OS". > > > > Is this really helpful, to the OP or anyone else on the list? > > Speaking as someone who has worked in software support at IBM, on > Windows and other operating systems, I can state with some authority > of how bad Windows is compared to other operating systems. Sudden > crashes, reboots or other failures are not uncommon on Windows. They > are rare on other operating systems. This is even before we get to > the flaws that turn Windows into a security sieve. Bottom line, for > reasons of stability and security, Windows is the worst possible > choice. As a couple of examples, I have an IBM ThinkPad. It's solid > as a rock on Linux, but frequently locks up on Windows. My work > computer, running Windows, sometimes has to be rebooted during the > day, even though it gets shut down every night. It also gets the > occasional BSOD. My home computers, all running Linux, generally run > for months, without rebooting or crashing. I have had hard lockups on some linux boxes when trying to run XMMS when it was not setup correctly. About one in three boxes at one stage (circa Mandrake 9.0). > Usually, they're only rebooted due to kernel update, hardware change > or, on occasion, operator error. They simply don't crash EVER, unless > due to hardware failure. Also, on Linux, viruses are simply not an > issue. In fact there has never been a successful one. Thats because it has not been worthwhile writing one. What is the real practical difference between * nakedbritney.exe and * nakedbritney.rpm or nakedbritney.deb if they carry a trojan payload. It realy is a case of the low numbers of Linux desktops providing a false sense of security. The other reason this type of file does not spread on Linux is the geek knowledge factor of the average Linux computer user is higher. Yes, the above is only one aspect of linux security. But time and again i have set up XP boxes with a seperate limited login for each user and a master login for installing stuff. Months later i go back and everyone in the household uses the master login because it is the only login "that works properly". With the same family on a linux box and one login only having SUDO access, what would happen? My answer is Linux would start to look like Windows swiss cheese. Anyway i think this thread is OT for this forum, but so are put-downs based on OS. If i drive a toyota instead of a ferrari should the garage not serve me? Should they ridicule my choice of car on the invoice? I think they would leave that to Jeremy Clarkson. > So, many of us recommend against Microsoft products, because we know > that other products are better for many reasons. Some of us, > including myself have had experience on several other platforms and > know how computers are supposed to be. People who run only Windows, > think that crashes and viruses are normal. They are not. They are a > result of deficiencies in Microsoft software. > -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [OT] GUI for LaTeX
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:58:49 -0800 Came this utterance fomulated by NoOp to my mailbox: > You mentioned that you primarily use LaTex -- for some reason, in > nearly 20 years of word processor uses I've never figured out LaTex et > al. I've searched for GUI interfaces, I've tried to create documents, > and in each and every case I've failed. I suspect that it's because > I've not ever had to create a 'Tex' document in an academic > environment before, but for some reason I still can't figure out how > to create even the most simple of LaTex documents. I wonder how a MS > Office (Word) user or creator of a technical could do the same? LyX http://www.lyx.org/ You set up your styles, then you type "What You Mean" as opposed to "What You Get". It is semantic in nature and you actually use a seperate utility to preview what the final copy will look like before output. It has been a while since i played with it. It does have a really good tutorial that leads you into it in steps. Average Joe hates it because he doesn't get to fiddle it to look just-so, but must just write. Many old school tech writers swear by it. Footnotes appear inline and collapsible IIRC. Windows, Linux or OS X. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Lost associations
Is there any way to get back OO.o windows file associations en-masse. I installed 3.0 a while ago on our production Windows Server 2008, but left the file associations pointing to 2.4.x. I am now through my testing cycle with 3.0.1 and am happy enough with it's stability to use it instead of 2.4.x. Trouble is i now have to update all the file extensions for all users server wide. This includes Microsoft file extensions. Any assistance welcome. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Lost associations
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:57:21 -0500 Came this utterance fomulated by James Knott to my mailbox: > Michael Adams wrote: > > Is there any way to get back OO.o windows file associations > > en-masse. > > > > I installed 3.0 a while ago on our production Windows Server 2008, > > but left the file associations pointing to 2.4.x. I am now through > > my testing cycle with 3.0.1 and am happy enough with it's stability > > to use it instead of 2.4.x. > > > > Trouble is i now have to update all the file extensions for all > > users server wide. This includes Microsoft file extensions. Any > > assistance welcome. > > > > > Shouldn't installing 3.0.1 set the associations by default? > I was in test mode, expecting bugs in 3.0 and a bug-fix with 3.0.1, so i said "No, don't take over the associations" at the question. 2.4 was still working and working well so i left it with the file associations. At home now on Linux so can't test this. Does OpenOffice.org have a *Repair* option in the "Add/remove software" (Control Panel) utility on Vista or WS2008? I know it isn't "Add/remove software" any more but i can find the right one when back at work. I am actually hoping for a Windows utility or something to do this. Looking at a re-install as a last-last resort. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Lost associations
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:28:16 +1300 Came this utterance fomulated by Michael Adams to my mailbox: > On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:57:21 -0500 > Came this utterance fomulated by James Knott to my mailbox: > > > Michael Adams wrote: > > > Is there any way to get back OO.o windows file associations > > > en-masse. > > > > > > I installed 3.0 a while ago on our production Windows Server 2008, > > > but left the file associations pointing to 2.4.x. I am now through > > > my testing cycle with 3.0.1 and am happy enough with it's > > > stability to use it instead of 2.4.x. > > > > > > Trouble is i now have to update all the file extensions for all > > > users server wide. This includes Microsoft file extensions. Any > > > assistance welcome. > > At home now on Linux so can't test this. Does OpenOffice.org have a > *Repair* option in the "Add/remove software" (Control Panel) utility > on Vista or WS2008? I know it isn't "Add/remove software" any more but > i can find the right one when back at work. > > I am actually hoping for a Windows utility or something to do this. > Looking at a re-install as a last-last resort. > Found this - it looks written for XP so it may or may not work in Vista or WS2008. It also may or may not work across multiple users. http://www.technologyquestions.com/technology/windows-xp/26289-file-association.html?q=windows-xp/26289-file-association.html [quote] I you encountered a file that windows is not familiar with you need to add that file; open folder options: control panel - tools - folder options: 1-on file type tab, click new. 2-In the create New Extension dialog box, type the file extension in the File Extension field and click ok 4-Locate the new file type at the top of the Registered File types list. In the open with area, click change to choose the program with wich to open files of that type. 5-in the windows dialog box, choose Select the program from the list and click ok 6-in the open with dialog box select the program. (remember that an installed program must be able to open the file.) exit with ok and close the folder options [/quote] -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Lost associations
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:00:37 + Came this utterance fomulated by Harold Fuchs to my mailbox: > 2009/2/23 Michael Adams > > > On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:57:21 -0500 > > Came this utterance fomulated by James Knott to my mailbox: > > > > > Michael Adams wrote: > > > > Is there any way to get back OO.o windows file associations > > > > en-masse. > > > > > > > > I installed 3.0 a while ago on our production Windows Server > > > > 2008, but left the file associations pointing to 2.4.x. I am now > > > > through my testing cycle with 3.0.1 and am happy enough with > > > > it's stability to use it instead of 2.4.x. > > > > > > > > Trouble is i now have to update all the file extensions for all > > > > users server wide. This includes Microsoft file extensions. Any > > > > assistance welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't installing 3.0.1 set the associations by default? > > > > > > > I was in test mode, expecting bugs in 3.0 and a bug-fix with 3.0.1, > > so i said "No, don't take over the associations" at the question. > > 2.4 was still working and working well so i left it with the file > > associations. > > > > At home now on Linux so can't test this. Does OpenOffice.org have a > > *Repair* option in the "Add/remove software" (Control Panel) utility > > on Vista or WS2008? I know it isn't "Add/remove software" any more > > but i can find the right one when back at work. > > > > I am actually hoping for a Windows utility or something to do this. > > Looking at a re-install as a last-last resort. > > > > -- > > Michael > > > > The Help in OOo 2.4.1 says: > === begin quote === > > To change the association of Microsoft Office file name extensions to > open the files either in OpenOffice.org or in Microsoft Office, using > Microsoft Windows: > >1. > >Exit OpenOffice.org and the OpenOffice.org Quickstarter. >2. > >Run the OpenOffice.org Setup program: > >Click the Windows *Start* button, choose *Control Panel*, click >*Add or Remove Programs*, select the OpenOffice.org 2.4 entry, >click *Change*. 3. > >In the OpenOffice.org Setup, check the *Modify* option and click > *Next*until you see the file types page. >4. > >Select or deselect the file types. Click *OK* and complete the >OpenOffice.org Setup program. > > === end quote === > > Sounds like the "repair" option you thought of ... > > I don't have v 3.x installed so I don't know if the above works there > there. I'm also not sure about your server environment - whether doing > the above will affect all users. > I'm finding a lot of stuff like this which was written for older OS'es. Can but try them. Most of what works on Vista AND WS2003 works on WS2008. The most promising ones i have come across is *assoc* and *ftype* from the command line. I'm a happy linux user so will be in my element. http://commandwindows.com/assoc.htm -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Lost associations
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:07:37 -0500 Came this utterance fomulated by James Knott to my mailbox: > > I am actually hoping for a Windows utility or something to do this. > > Looking at a re-install as a last-last resort. > > > > > What happens if you just uninstall & reinstall 3.0.1? > As i said - last resort. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Lost associations (Solved)
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:31:29 +1300 Came this utterance fomulated by Michael Adams to my mailbox: > > Is there any way to get back OO.o windows file associations en-masse. > > I installed 3.0 a while ago on our production Windows Server 2008, but > left the file associations pointing to 2.4.x. I am now through my > testing cycle with 3.0.1 and am happy enough with it's stability to > use it instead of 2.4.x. > > Trouble is i now have to update all the file extensions for all users > server wide. This includes Microsoft file extensions. Any assistance > welcome. > For those that search the list. In Windows Server 2008 "Add/Remove programs" is now "Programs and Features". In there I highlighted OO.o 3.0 in the list and clicked"Repair" on the toolbar. Surprise - the fix was applied while users were still running OO.o 3.0. It will complete the update on the next restart, though i am not sure what else it will update. All file associations are good across all users before the restart. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Complaint
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:55:14 -0800 Came this utterance fomulated by Herb Wanger to my mailbox: > Jean - Baptiste Faure ; > > > I asked to simple > question, regarding UR product and i couldn't get an answer. Yet U > want everyone to use Ur product. >I will definately, tell, > People ALL over the World, NOT, to Use Ur product and U do so at UR > own risk. Have a Great Day, Seva. Mr Wanger, there is no record of any previous posts/questions on this mailing list from anyone at your email address. So i cannot verify what your two simple questions were. Please elucidate. People all over the world will have dificulty taking seriously anyone that does not bother to write correctly, unless you are twittering. To unsubscribe you should send an email to the email address you have put in the subject line. The "Subject:" line is where the topic of your post goes. The "To:" line is where you put the email address. Please do not put any complaint in the unsubcribe email as the server that unsubscribes you will not forward it to a human and will just ignore it. Complaints to this mailing list of several thousand happy OpenOffice.org users generally do not get a good reception. They also typically turn out to be the result of frustration and lack of knowledge, though i cannot verify this in your case, other than comparing to your lack of email understanding. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users][OT] German Only!?
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:42:08 +0100 Came this utterance fomulated by Karl Appel to my mailbox: > PLEASE ONLY IN GERMAN ! > This is an english only mailing list. If you wish to subscribe to any of the the German language lists visit: http://de.openoffice.org/ http://de.openoffice.org/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users][OT] What will happen if i try it?
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:28:24 -0600 (CST)
Came this utterance fomulated by Jeremy C. Reed to my mailbox:
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Michael
All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall
be well
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Re: [users][OT] What will happen if i try it?
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:55:19 -0600 (CST) Came this utterance formulated by Jeremy C. Reed to my mailbox: > On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Michael Adams wrote: > > > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:28:24 -0600 (CST) > > Came this utterance fomulated by Jeremy C. Reed to my mailbox: > > Saw your email reply has typo: foRmulated > > Unless fomulated is some term that I don't know and I did :) Dang, i've had that like that since September the 14th last year and you are the first to notice it (on several lists). THX -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Keyboard Shortcuts
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:33:38 -0800 (PST) Came this utterance formulated by Rich Shepard to my mailbox: >One reason I use Writer so infrequently is its dependence on the >pointer > thingie. I'm a touch typist and prefer to keep my hands on the > keyboard while writing. To do this efficiently, in emacs and joe I use > control-key chords (e.g.. ctrl-a to move to the head of the line, > ctrl-e to move to the end, ctrl-f to move forward one character, > ctrl-b to move back one character, ctrl-d to delete the character to > the right of the point, etc.) > >I tried to configure OO.o/Writer-3 to use these shortcuts, but >failed > because there is apparently a limited list that can be assigned to > keys. > >Is there a way for me to assign my preferred shortcuts for use in >Writer? > I'm so used to them that I'm constantly doing things I don't intend > and end up writing in a plain text editor because it's quicker and > more efficient. > I think you may have trouble there as those emacs key binding clash with pre-existing word processing key bindings. For example: ctrl-a = select all ctrl-b = bold on/off ctrl-f = find Unless you can unbind them first? I'd be hesitant to recommend that as a preferred method as you are going against almost all common word-processor bindings. In fact many, admittedly mainly windows, text editors use these same bindings. I seem to remember a recent discussion about emacs key bindings and OO.o but can't recall on which list. A quick search hasn't helped. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] problem downloading upgrade
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:37:33 -0500 Came this utterance formulated by Raymond Smith to my mailbox: > *Hello. My name is Raymond and I am new to open office. I am unsure > how to pose my problem in any of the various forums so I hope sending > this email is the right thing to do.* > *I have been trying to download an upgrade (to v3) but my dialup keeps > dropping the call and the download gets stalled. When I restart my > connection, the download begins back at the beginning. It seems to > happen after about four hours each time and the download is still > around 50% or less. I have tried help...but nothing tells me how to > resume a stalled download. Is it possible to resume or would this be > something which has never come up before? Is there a workaround...like > pausing the download before the dialup call gets dropped, restarting > the connection, and then resuming the download...?? The trick there of > course would be to catch it before the dialup call gets dropped...* > *Anyway I hope you can tell me what I can do. Thank you, Raymond * > A couple of options here. This page on OpenOffice.org recommends some download managers. Download managers allow you to restart where your download finished. I tried one GetRight, which came highly recommended but it was intrusive not transparent and just felt clunky to me: http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.2/downloadtools.html Alternatively you could look at the firefox browser: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ And if the download manager within firefox does not work better install this download manager addon to firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/201 This combination is a lot more transparent. As a further option you could try two alternative methods of obtaining the program: Buy it on CD: http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/index.html#cdrom Or go to your local internet cafe and download it onto a flashstick there. CD's and especially floppies are so out of date when you get used to flash sticks. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Question about OpenOffice
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:03:03 -0600 Came this utterance formulated by Griffin, Stacey to my mailbox: > How do I check the "Flesh Kincaid Readability Statistics" of a word > document using OpenOffice? > I don't know if there is a tool within OO.o (if there is the Flesh Kincaid is only one measure) but you can copy and paste to here and get results for various readability measures: http://www.online-utility.org/english/readability_test_and_improve.jsp Good on ya for caring! -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.1.0 M2
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:25:31 +0100 Came this utterance formulated by Emil Sekula to my mailbox: > Hello > What does it mean M2 in new version of OpenOffice.org ? > Regards > Emil Sekula Milestone 2 It is a step on the way to a full release to the general public. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] custom install impossible
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:27:47 -0800 Came this utterance formulated by alexander cole to my mailbox: > I try to install Impress only (like Powerpoint) using > custom install. The entire suite installs (about 345MB). > Any suggestion? >Alex Cole There are many common components in the program. Writing a line of text on an impress frame is very similar to writing a line of text in a word processor. The program is essentially one big program with different interfaces. The space savings in trying to install one part is minimal. You actually do not state your real issue; lack of memory, old low powered computer, lack of hard drive space, so suggestions are hard to come by. Further do you want to create and edit presentations or just view them, for the latter the free powerpoint viewer may be all you need. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:08:14 -0500 Came this utterance formulated by Gene Young to my mailbox: > Karl Appel wrote: > > PLEASE ONLY IN GERMAN ! > > - Original Message - From: "Spiderman" > > Warum würden Sie sich bei einem englischen Sprache, und dann > verlangen, dass alle schreiben auf Deutsch? > Gene could you explain the german language site and mailing list to Karl, please. He may also need unsubscribe instructions for this list. Try a private post with a subject like "[users] *ATTN: Karl Appel*" http://de.openoffice.org/ http://de.openoffice.org/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html To answer your question; although the mailing list is english only does the website state this? He may have been directed here from one of those sites charging for the OpenOffice.org download. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] document assembly for lawyers
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:00:39 -0800 Came this utterance formulated by Christian Einfeldt to my mailbox: > > Here's what lawyers need to be able to do: We produce reams and reams > of paper documents in lawsuits. Many of these lawsuits have similar > elements. Automated document assembly speeds up the production of > these documents, such as a Demand for Production of Documents (RPD), > by inserting certain key words throughout the document, such as > parties, lawyers' names, and so on. This data is pulled from fields > entered into the automated document assembly materials when a case is > opened, so that repetitive data need be entered only once for the life > of the case (not perfect, but fairly good). > So hotdocs if i understand it correctly is like auto-replace+ in that you can have separate autoreplace tables for each case or group of documents. Common names across documents is easily handled by OO.o. In my auto-replace i replace ooo with OpenOffice.org automatically. One would think customised autoreplace tables not such a difficult feature to add. Definately a usefull extension for lawyers and posibly other businesses. Is there any other features this program has that you would like. It being better to talk in terms of specific features than a proram name that may or may not be recgnised. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users][OT] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:33:36 -0500 Came this utterance formulated by Ugly Me to my mailbox: [snip] This sort of stuff is way off topic and very offensive to some. Please stop it, this is not a personal soap box list. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: ver 3 is rubbish.
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:49:40 +0200 Came this utterance formulated by Richard to my mailbox: > Richard wrote: > > OOo3 is the worst version ever and like Netscape ver 4 a complete > > disaster that will loose countless users and loyal supporters. > > > > I am officially removing OOo 3 from my office 7 machines, I have > > used OOo since ver 1 but can no longer support its very slow > > operation, my staff are complaining bitterly and this is despite > > upgrades in PC's etc., It appears no one is capable of answering the > > reasons for the slow and unacceptable speeds of opening and closing > > a file from a file server. > > > > Let all be warned, this ver 3 is a step backwards and mso is > > becoming more and more attractive despite its cost as time saved > > relates to money saved. > > The issues I raise are genuine, and frankly this news room has never > solved any major issues I have ever had, you don't provide answers, > because there is no solution or you simply do not know, you are the > AH's for not accepting there is a problem and burying your heads in > the sand. > > Frustration certainly, and I wonder how many of you have used OOo as > long as I have and how many of you use it in an environment such as > mine and not just on a single machine? > > I have been a champion of OOo for more years than most of you have > even used the programme. There are serious issues with OOo 3 and > that's a fact and NOT ONE OF THE AH's REPLYING HERE CAN GIVE ME AN > ANSWER AS TO WHY IT SAVES SLOW ONTO A FILE SERVER and OPENS SLOW FROM > A FILE SERVER. MSO on the other hand is fast, same size and type of > files, same file server and same workstations! This is a user help list - not a list where you can demand the program be fixed. Quality assurance is where you want to be. http://qa.openoffice.org/ I looked up qa's issue tracker and found this bug. http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=50983 You have two votes to vote for the bug to be fixed. That will go towards you helping to get the issue resolved. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Moving tables
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:15:43 -0800 Came this utterance formulated by John Jason Jordan to my mailbox: > This has driven me nuts for all the years I have used OOo and it's > time I figured it out. > > When I create a table I need to be sure there is at least one carriage > return before and one after the point where I am going to insert the > table, else I will never be able to select the table. Just now I have > a table that has no carriage return after it. I can select the entire > table, but all I get is the data in the cells - I don't get the > structure of the table. And Ctrl-X just deletes the data from the > table, leaving the structure on the page. If I want to select the > entire thing I have to select from carriage return before to carriage > return after. > > I know that I can enter a carriage return before the table by > inserting the cursor into the first cell and pressing Enter. But > putting the cursor in the last cell and hitting Enter just inserts a > carriage return within the cell. > > How do I get a carriage return after the table? I've looked all over > the Help and can't find the answer. > I know what you are saying. The easiest way if you do not have an empty paragraph below the table is to: 1. Copy the table ([ctrl]+[c]) 2. Delete the table (table > delete > table) 3. Insert all the paragraphs you like ([enter][enter][enter]) 4. Paste the table back where you want it ([ctrl]+[v]) HTH -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] epsilon in Math
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:04:47 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Ian Dohoo to my mailbox: > I am using Open Office to produce an epidemiology text book. > > Is it possible to create a lowercase epsilon (character U+03B5) in > Math (Equation Editor) that looks like the epsilon that I get in > regular text (Times Roman font). The two look very different which is > distracting if you want to combine equations and text. > > Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > Ian Dohoo > Tried %epsilon %EPSILON? http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0111GS-GettingStartedWithMath.pdf -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Solved
On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:18:08 +0200 Came this utterance formulated by Richard to my mailbox: > Nobody else is having the problem remember, so this must be specific > to me? > Ah, good old abrassive personalities. Did you see the issue i linked to? You may wish to add to the comments. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Super- and subscript move text on the baseline
On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:33:42 -0800 Came this utterance formulated by John Jason Jordan to my mailbox: > >I frequently need to use the overtie and the undertie (overtie is > >much preferred). As far as I know there are two of each in Unicode: > > > >Overtie: hex 2040 or hex 361 > >Undertie: hex 203F or hex 35C > > > >These are also sometimes referred to as tie bars, generically. > > > >Unfortunately, the fonts must be created, the height of the undertie > >or overtie is fixed in the font. This creates a problem with > >characters that have an ascender or a descender because the tie bar > >smashes into the character. In proper typesetting it should sit just > >above or below the character. > > > >I thought I could get around this problem simply by using superscript > >or subscript and then set the distance manually to 100% font size and > >a certain percentage above/below the normal position. But when I do > >so, other parts of the word shift up or down on the baseline. > > > >Note that the tie bars are designed to be inserted between the > >characters they are tying together. I'm not sure how this will make > >it through e-mail, but let me try to illustrate. Suppose I want to > >type[d-tie bar-yogh]. The d has an ascender and the yogh has a > >descender, so neither the undertie nor the overtie will work without > >adjusting their position from the baseline. Since overties are > >preferred when possible, I will type: > > > >[d, then change to superscript, 100% font size, 20% higher, overtie > >(hex 2040 or hex 361), change back to normal, then yogh (hex 292), ] > > > >The [, d, yogh, and ] stay where they belong on the baseline after > >changing to superscript, but as soon as I enter the tie bar some or > >all of them will move down a little below the baseline. > > > >Logically this should not be happening. Superscripting a character > >should not change the position of any other characters with respect > >to the baseline. > > > >I first noticed this when entering characters in cells in a Writer > >table. Subsequent experimentation revealed that it also happens in > >normal text anywhere. > > > >This is OOo 3.01 on Intrepid, installed via the deb file from OOo. > > No response, so sending again. > > Can someone at least confirm that this is a bug? Or that it is > something on my computer and not a bug? > I know of no program that has that font control. Perhaps you could raise it on the unicode list? A topic there can look like this: http://unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2006-m06/0226.html -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Inserting .odg file into a writer document (.odt)
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:27:40 +0200 Came this utterance formulated by Kevin Wilson to my mailbox: > Hello, > Thanks! > > I should have mentioned before - I tried it but it did not work for > me. Rgs, > Kevin > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Clayton > wrote: > > Kevin Wilson wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I had created an .odg file in OpenOffice Draw. > >> I want to insert this file into an OpenOffice document (.odt). > >> > >> I tried to do this, in Wrtier, by "insert->file and > >> insert->picture->from file, but it did not work. > >> How can it be done ? > > 1. Select the area with all the objects that make up your ODG drawing. 2. Right click and "Group" them into one object (this allows scaling of your imported object to work better). 3. While they are all still selected use Edit - Copy. 4. Swap to the the Writer document then Edit - Paste. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] an empty cell in Calc
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:51:22 -0600 Came this utterance formulated by Walter Hildebrandt to my mailbox: > Sorry for the confusion. i will try again. > If A1 is empty or has an 0 in it, I want B1 to be empty. At the same > time if A1 has any number in it, I want B1 to have that number in B1. In B1 type =a1 -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] an empty cell in Calc
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:37:39 -0600 Came this utterance formulated by Walter Hildebrandt to my mailbox: > I just send an Email stating what is required. In the case of using a > misture of 10 and -10 the answers should be either 0 +20 in -20. > Neither of the =ABS(A1-B1)/ABS(A1) or the > =ABS(A1-B1)/IF(A1=0;1;ABS(A1)) > I get the feeling you are suckering these peeps into doing your homework for you? -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Difficulty (if even possible)
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:22:42 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Darlene/Jim to my mailbox: > I have a a desktop computer (Win XP) and a laptop (MAC Leopard)., Can > I share Excel files and Numbers files between these operating systems > with OpenOffive and if yes can you opnt me in the direction of the > proper read me file so I can figure out how.. > Thank You > Jim Aberdeen > You don't need OpenOffice.org to do this http://www.apple.com/iwork/numbers/ [quote] Share your Numbers spreadsheets with anyone on a Mac or PC. You can open Microsoft Excel files in Numbers and save your Numbers spreadsheets as Excel files. [/quote] So it is probably better to check out help in the program you have. Just type in "Excel" or "xls". -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Difficulty (if even possible)
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:52:56 +1300 Came this utterance formulated by Michael Adams to my mailbox: > On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:22:42 -0400 > Came this utterance formulated by Darlene/Jim to my mailbox: > > > I have a a desktop computer (Win XP) and a laptop (MAC Leopard)., > > Can I share Excel files and Numbers files between these operating > > systems with OpenOffive and if yes can you opnt me in the direction > > of the proper read me file so I can figure out how.. > > Thank You > > Jim Aberdeen > > > > You don't need OpenOffice.org to do this > http://www.apple.com/iwork/numbers/ > [quote] > Share your Numbers spreadsheets with anyone on a Mac or PC. You can > open Microsoft Excel files in Numbers and save your Numbers > spreadsheets as Excel files. > [/quote] > > So it is probably better to check out help in the program you have. > Just type in "Excel" or "xls". http://movies.apple.com/media/us/mac/iwork/numbers/2009/tutorials/apple-iwork-numbers-working_with_microsoft_office-us-20090106_r640-10cie.mov?width=640&height=400#officeTutorial -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Opening filed documents
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:06:25 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Rayandhelen57 to my mailbox: > I have been using OpenOffice for awhile. When the document is "saved" > and I try to reopen it I have been unable to open many of them. Some > I can open okay..others I cannot. I also have some documents filed > that were created with Word and cannot open any of those. > > Anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong...or what I can do to open > these documents. Please check your "Save As" dialogue and ensure that the "Automatic File Extensions" Tickbox (checkbox) is ticked at all times. If you have Writer documents that you have saved without this ticked you may need to add ".ODT" to the end of the filename by rightclicking and renaming from a Windows Explorer window (Vista - Start, Documents OR XP - Start, My Documents). -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [moderated]
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:36:46 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Web Kracked to my mailbox: > > That is why I sent the entire email header with my thread. > > > James Knott wrote: > > My calendar must be running fast. I could have sworn it was Mar 17, > > 2009, not June 2, 2007. > > > > BTW, I think the person you're replying to was actually trying to > > correct someone else, named "mango", who seems to be stuck in the > > past. > > > > > > ing.marlon wrote: > >> The date is set right > >> > >> > >> > >> -Mensaje original- > >> De: Christina Godinez [mailto:chrisgodi...@yahoo.com] Enviado el: > >> Martes, 17 de Marzo de 2009 10:35 a.m. > >> Para: users@openoffice.org > >> Asunto: Re: [users] [moderated] > >> > >> can you please set the date correctly on your email? > >> --- On Sat, 6/2/07, mango wrote: > >> > >> From: mango > >> Subject: [users] [moderated] > >> To: users@openoffice.org > >> Date: Saturday, June 2, 2007, 6:54 AM > >> > >> I would like to contribute to the art project, but the page won't > >> open, is > >> it too new or is my puter whack? > >> On this list i thought we had a policy of lenience or gentle persuasion only towards newbies/unsubscribed who are often new computing in general. Regular list members on the other hand should be familiar with the mailing list guidelines. http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html#guidelines So the OP who may be a newbie and not know better is best not to be abused for the system time of their box. Of course i myself have been unnecesarily short with people on some occasions especially when they top post instead of use the recommended intersperse method of replying. I will try to reply top post if the newbie innitiates a top post discussion. However for a normal thread among list members i recommend following the guidelines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: OT: IBM in Talks to Buy Sun
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:42:49 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by H.S. to my mailbox: > Girard Aquino wrote: > > David B Teague wrote: > >> NoOp wrote: > >>> On 03/18/2009 08:07 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: > >>> > http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/article5929716.ece > > > >>> > >>> Yes I saw that... one can only hope that OOo doesn't disapear into > >Lotus>> Symphony (which works ok and has it's place I suppose in some > >>> environments). > >>> > >>> > >> In the past, IBM has supported FOSS, bu that was mostly Linux, but > >> they might continue to support OO.o. We can only hope. > >> Past? - in the past? IBM are implementing Linux on most of their supercomputers (which run steroid pumped PS3 style chips): http://www.top500.org/stats/list/32/osfam They have a high number of programmers working on the Linux Kernel itself: http://www.sdtimes.com/RED_HAT_TOPS_LIST_OF_CORPORATE_LINUX_CODE_CONTRIBUTORS/About_LINUX_and_OPENSOURCE_and_CANONICAL_and_REDHAT/32870 IBM contribute directly to OO.o code although they had concerns about the developer copyright agreement: 2006-02 http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-6039161-7.html 2007-09 http://www.openoffice.org/press/ibm_press_release.html > >> > > and would OOo development cease then? > No but if Sun and IBM programmers were withdrawn development would slow considerably. Both IBM and sun have projects that are intrinsically tied to OO.o. I would be far more interested in finding out which of these projects would be merged/dropped - but no amount of conjecture would prevent that being a crystal ball gazing exercise at this stage. > I do not think so. OOo is distributed under an open source license and > can be forked. > It would not need to be forked, government of OO.o is by a committee with an unstated ammount of independance from Sun - though Sun employees are IMHO dominant throughout the organisation: http://council.openoffice.org/ I would expect if this thread continues in the vain it has we will get an email from a Sun or council employee stating how intrinsically tied the council is. But i see no need for reassurance as to the ongoing nature of the project. I invite all to keep asking their questions on this issue (perhaps it is more appropriate on the discussion list where it would not be OT) but to still be wary of FUD alarmists raising uneducated conjecture. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Spell Check
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Came this utterance formulated by thomas brletic to my mailbox: > Hello. Can someone please help me. My spell check is not functioning. > Thank you for any assistance. First thing to check - does the language you are using have a spell checker? Mine did not innitially in New Zealand English. "Tools - Options", "Language settings + Languages" Look for the languages that have a blue tick (Checkmark). Innitially i was able to select UK English until i was able to download a New Zealand English Dictionary. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Support
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:53:17 -0600 Came this utterance formulated by Larry Gusaas to my mailbox: > > This list should be like a normal list and require people to subscribe > before postling. > It serves as a support mailing address for total newbies through to experts that want to ask questions. If you insist that the newbies learn how to use a mailing list before they can post a question, they will be less likely to ask their question. It works. In addition, many of the help questions come via an online forum IIUC. Those that don't like it and know better do have other alternatives. a. Unsubscribe themselves and only ask when they have an issue - then follow the thread via their browser. b. Use the forum: http://www.oooforum.org/ c. Alternative PC co-support help avenues. I'm not telling you to get lost if you don't like it. Please just understand why it is this way. Understand that it is moderated and we get very little spam through. It actually takes a certain kind of person to maintain a level of interest in helping others and not getting upset by the small things around here. I know i myself have over-reacted on more than one occasion, no canonization here! -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] March Madness - Form design with 3.1 enhancements - Current business news - and OH Yeah, "Where's Base?" one more time
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:20:29 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Drew Jensen to my mailbox: > Sorry - "Fat fingers" here, and addressed it to the wrong user' > mailing list. > > Drew > Apt subject line then ;) -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] applying italics
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:52:50 -0800 Came this utterance formulated by bg to my mailbox: > This is about to drive me bughouse. OOWriter does not respond to > the "italic" icon on the upper tool bar (the one between "bold" > and "underline"). Is there some optioning dropdown that turns that > on or off? I have been through every major page of the online > help, and have entered "italic" in the Search Term, and it seems > to be The Feature That None Dare Name. > Is this: * click icon then type? * select text then click icon? * or is it on both the above? I've never come across this issue before. Try selecting text, then "Format - Character" as well. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] applying italics
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:37:37 -0500 Came this utterance formulated by Barbara Duprey to my mailbox: > bg wrote: > >> bg wrote: > >> > >>> Re Italics not working. > > > > This is decidedly strange. But maybe a blessing in disguise if it > > forces me to accelerate my upgrade plans :-) > > I think that your installation may be corrupt. Hard disk starting to go is one possible concern. I don't know if there is a utility to verify files on a hard disk in Linux except to do a diff with a backup? > > I'm afraid an upgrade to a new version of OOo isn't likely to help, > because there's no known issue about this. If you create a new > document using the distributed default templates, and both the fonts > you like imposed directly on the text, do you get the same weird > behavior? If not, there's probably something different about the > styles you're using that is creating the situation. If it still > happens, you could send us your test document -- ODF files usually > come through OK on the list. The original would be good, too, if it's > not private. > Depends on the upgrade plans. Upgrade to a new box and or updated OS with a newer version of OO.o will fix the issue. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Support
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:24:30 -0600 Came this utterance formulated by Larry Gusaas to my mailbox: > On 2009/03/21 12:05 AM Michael Adams wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:53:17 -0600 > > Came this utterance formulated by Larry Gusaas to my mailbox: > > > > > >> This list should be like a normal list and require people to > >subscribe> before postling. > >> > > > > It serves as a support mailing address for total newbies through to > > experts that want to ask questions. If you insist that the newbies > > learn how to use a mailing list before they can post a question, > > they will be less likely to ask their question. It works. > > > > No, it does not work. This sub-thread started because someone replied > to a non-subscribed poster and did not cc him. That is a training issue. Those volunteering to assist here cannot expect to do so without some training. One need only lurk on the list for a month and that training will be given. It also serves a purpose. Many times i have seen a frustrated user sideswiping at OO.o as the problem with varying degrees of vulgarity (95% of the time these issues are lack of personal training or failure to read the manuals). But it was because they were not subscribed that they thankfully missed most the unhelpful replies back from other subscribers that take the bait. > People giving help have to jump through too many hoops to determine if > a poster is subscribed to the list. At the very least, the list should > be set up so that the address of non-subscribed posters is included in > the reply-to header. > Is the mailing list server capable of this? With the quality of some of the replies given do we want frustrated newbies recieving ALL replies to their annoyed and protagonistic missives? Our replies to these often do not further the cause of OO.o, in other words, if some of the replies were given by a helpdesk it could be a case for dismissal ;) -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Where should I go with my Impress problem?
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:47:26 +0100 Came this utterance formulated by Reinier Bakels to my mailbox: > Where should I go with my Impress problem? Here is good. This is a group of fellow users numbering in their thousands that are willing to help each other with problems. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Support
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:03:18 -0600 Came this utterance formulated by Larry Gusaas to my mailbox: > On 2009/03/21 1:41 PM Michael Adams wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:24:30 -0600 > > Came this utterance formulated by Larry Gusaas to my mailbox: > > > > > >> On 2009/03/21 12:05 AM Michael Adams wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:53:17 -0600 > >>> Came this utterance formulated by Larry Gusaas to my mailbox: > >>> > >>> > >>>> This list should be like a normal list and require people to > >>>> > >>> subscribe> before postling. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> It serves as a support mailing address for total newbies through > >to>> experts that want to ask questions. If you insist that the > >newbies>> learn how to use a mailing list before they can post a > >question,>> they will be less likely to ask their question. It works. > >>> > >>> > >> No, it does not work. This sub-thread started because someone > >replied> to a non-subscribed poster and did not cc him. > >> > > > > That is a training issue. Those volunteering to assist here cannot > > expect to do so without some training. One need only lurk on the > > list for a month and that training will be given. > > > > So you expect all volunteers to waste their valuable time searching > through all the headers to find out if a poster is subscribed before > sending a reply? > No, but training is freely given in how to set up email clients so that all moderated emails go to a different sub-folder. > > It also serves a purpose. Many times i have seen a frustrated user > > sideswiping at OO.o as the problem with varying degrees of vulgarity > > (95% of the time these issues are lack of personal training or > > failure to read the manuals). But it was because they were not > > subscribed that they thankfully missed most the unhelpful replies > > back from other subscribers that take the bait. > > > > And many times the the user has not received a very useful reply > because they were not CC'ed. > Generally others will reply or forward that email. > >> People giving help have to jump through too many hoops to determine > >if> a poster is subscribed to the list. At the very least, the list > >should> be set up so that the address of non-subscribed posters is > >included in> the reply-to header. > >> > > > > Is the mailing list server capable of this? > > > > Why don't you check? > I didn't ask for any change, I am the one that is happy with things as they are. I was posing a question that needed considering. I have no more association with the mail server than you. > > With the quality of some of the replies given do we want frustrated > > newbies recieving ALL replies to their annoyed and protagonistic > > missives? Our replies to these often do not further the cause of > > OO.o, in other words, if some of the replies were given by a > > helpdesk it could be a case for dismissal ;) > > > > This is a mailing list, not a help desk. If you want it to function as > a help desk so people don't have to subscribe, set up a help desk. > It is a help avenue. Remember many querants don't even know what a mailing list is. I think you are taking things too personally, i am not attacking you. I do have, and am entitled to, a different point of view however. If you think the system could be improved there are avenues that are well know for requesting improvements. Trying to bludgeon through a change through emails to this list won't happen no matter how agressive the email. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Where should I go with my Impress problem?
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:06:05 +0100 Came this utterance formulated by Reinier Bakels to my mailbox: > >> Where should I go with my Impress problem? > > > > Here is good. This is a group of fellow users numbering in their > > thousands that are willing to help each other with problems. > > > This is my problem: > > In OO Impress, on my notes pages, the slide itself appears only on the > first page, and there it is actually portrait-shaped while my actual > slides have the usual landscape format, in other words: the aspect > ratio is strongly changed. > > The problem may be caused by the fact that I used a Powerpoint > skeleton from my university and converted that to .odp. But then I > suppose I must be able to repair the above problem? Or is this an OO > bug? I'd love to use OO Impress because I hate all these people > virtually equating a computer slides presentation to "a powerpoint". > You could use a black backround, then centre your 'slide' image on that. If you have a master slide, which is normal, then a black rectangle covering all of slide one's frame and set backwards will do the same thing. Aside: you've actually confused me between what you mean is a slide and a presentation. You have used the word 'slide' in two contexts, as in the slide (an object) shown on slide 1 (the first frame). What sort of object is the former? -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How do I get onto open office?
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Came this utterance formulated by Wellington E. Olander to my mailbox: > Hello! > > I downloaded, ran and installed the program, but it never showed up. > Do I need to shut down the computer first, for it to show up? > Thank-you. Nickeera Olander > The latest version 3 available from http://www.openoffice.org installs an icon onto your desktop. Earlier versions do not. You can do this yourself by locating the Openoffice.org folder in "Start - (all) programs". Choose Writer or the application you will use most and right click "send to - desktop (create shortcut)". -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How do I get onto open office?
Copy to OP On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:17:48 +1200 Came this utterance formulated by Michael Adams to my mailbox: > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:34:42 -0700 (PDT) > Came this utterance formulated by Wellington E. Olander to my mailbox: > > > Hello! > > > > I downloaded, ran and installed the program, but it never showed up. > > Do I need to shut down the computer first, for it to show up? > > Thank-you. Nickeera Olander > > > > The latest version 3 available from > http://www.openoffice.org > installs an icon onto your desktop. > > Earlier versions do not. You can do this yourself by locating the > Openoffice.org folder in "Start - (all) programs". Choose Writer or > the application you will use most and right click "send to - desktop > (create shortcut)". > > -- > Michael > > All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things > shall be well > > - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Christmas addresses
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:56:19 -0500 Came this utterance formulated by Kathleen Sweeney to my mailbox: > I have about 75 names and addresses I'd like to be able to print on > labels for Xmas cards. That's it. Thanks for your concern! > Kathleen 651-636-3923 > - Original Message - > From: "James Knott" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 6:12 AM > Subject: Re: [users] Christmas addresses > > > > Kathleen Sweeney wrote: > >> Hi, all - I'm new to the group. I'm wondering if it is easy to > >set up > addresses for an annual Christmas mailing with Open Office, > >or is it much > easier to buy Microsoft Word? Thanks! > >> Kathleen > >> > > If you can do that in Word, you probably can in OpenOffice.org as > > well. Is there anything special about your address list? How are > > you planning on using it? > > Your seventyfive names and addresses constitute a database. What form are they currently in? OO.o will accept connections to many database formats to use for mailing lists to print letters, labels and envelopes. It is all covered in Chapter 11 of the Writer Guide which can be dowloaded from: http://documentation.openoffice.org/ With guides for OO.o 2 at: http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/index.html and for OO.o 3 at: http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/userguide3/index.html -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: OLD Quattro Pro file
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:19:21 + (UTC) Came this utterance formulated by Chris Taylor to my mailbox: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:59:28 +, Chris Taylor wrote: > > > I have a Quattro Pro File that I would like to open I can't remember > > witch version it was written in as I had a few. was a windows > > version. I can't get it to open in OO ver 3 Linux Can anyone help me > What you have here is a case of vendor lock-in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in#Lock-in_in_electronics_and_computers The solution (one solution?) is to download the trial version of Wordperfect Office and use it to export the spreadsheet files in a less proprietary format. I see Wordperfect Office now supports ODF but i do not know at what level. http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1207939621182#tabview=tab0 You will have to do this on a Windows machine as they do not support other platforms. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] *MODERATOR NOTE*
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:01:06 + Came this utterance formulated by Joe Grech to my mailbox: > > Hello, > How are you doing ? Sorry I didn't inform you about my traveling to > London for a program, I'm presently in London and am having some > difficulties here because i misplaced my wallet on my way to the > hotel where my money,and other valuable things were kept.I will like > you to assist me with a loan of ($1,500) to sort-out my hotel bills > and to get myself back home. I will appreciate whatever you can > afford to assist me with, I'll Refund the money back to you as soon > as i return,let me know if you can be of any help? ASAP. > Please forward an airline ticket and i will deliver the loan in person. Let's meet up outside New Scotland Yard - OK? Seriously - this is a case for moderator unsubscription. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: *MODERATOR NOTE*
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:30:31 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by NoOp to my mailbox: > On 03/23/2009 10:20 AM, Michael Adams wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:01:06 + > > Came this utterance formulated by Joe Grech to my mailbox: > > > >> > >> Hello, > >> How are you doing ? Sorry I didn't inform you about my traveling > >to> London for a program, I'm presently in London and am having > >some> difficulties here because i misplaced my wallet on my way to > >the> hotel where my money,and other valuable things were kept.I > >will like> you to assist me with a loan of ($1,500) to sort-out my > >hotel bills> and to get myself back home. I will appreciate > >whatever you can> afford to assist me with, I'll Refund the money > >back to you as soon> as i return,let me know if you can be of any > >help? ASAP.> > > > > Please forward an airline ticket and i will deliver the loan in > > person. Let's meet up outside New Scotland Yard - OK? > > > > Seriously - this is a case for moderator unsubscription. > > > > More likely Joe sent it to the wrong address - he is subscribed here, > and has posted OOo related msgs in the past. > I just took it to be a variation on a Nigerian 419 scam. I tend to be very hard nosed about those - he's damn lucky i didn't email abuse at hotmail first. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Urgent Request
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:04:25 + Came this utterance formulated by Brian Barker to my mailbox: > At 14:33 23/03/2009 -0400, Gene Young wrote: > >This is a known scam. Someone spoofs an email, requests monetary > >assistance be sent to a particular location and disappears. > > How right you are! > > A relevant header reads: X-Originating-IP: [196.3.183.73]. This > address appears to be located in Nigeria. It's blacklisted by > spamcop.net, abuseat.org, sorbs.net, and spamhaus.org - amongst > others. > > Previous messages from the spoofed address suggest that its owner is > one time zone east of GMT (UTC) and that he keeps daylight saving > time in the northern hemisphere's summer. Nigeria is one zone east > of UTC but - being tropical - does not exercise daylight saving. So > his domicile is unlikely to be Nigeria (but probably central > Europe). Oh, and if (as he once told) he uses the English (UK) > version of OpenOffice, he would probably use British rather than US > spelling: thus "travelling" instead of "traveling" and possibly even > "programme" instead of "program". > > As you suggest, it's not our friend who has sent this message. but > instead a scammer. > Then he must have access to our friends hotmail account. How else will he pursue the transaction? -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Bullet in text
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:24:58 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Marc Paré to my mailbox: > Marc Paré a écrit : > > Hi: > > > > I have some text that I wrote with MS Word at work but when I open > > it in Ooov.3 it looses the bullets that I inserted. Is there a way > > to fix this? Does anyone know why the bullets will not migrate into > > Ooo? > > > > Many thanks for your help. > > > > Marc > > > > --- > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org > > > > > I think I may have found an answer to the bullet conversion when using > MS Word <-> OpenOffice. > > In OpenOffice go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice.org ->Fonts. Enable > "Apply replacement table", select "Symbol" in the left hand FONT drop > down menu; select "OpenSymbol" in the right hand menu; "Replace with" > dropdown. Press the checkmark to the right to add the substitution to > the table. Make sure you check the "Always" box. > > It looks like this works. > Are you saying the character you chose as bullets did not work in OO.o, or was it a graphic? -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Standalone Help Files
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:50:00 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Ugly Me to my mailbox: > How do you view help files outside of OOo? As with a few other open > source programs I have used, it uses some bizarre help format that is > totally incompatible with the standard .hlp/.cnt/.fts and .chm/.chw > files that are easily viewed from the desktop or virtually any > directory window by double clicking them. I find this quite useful > when trying to look up a reference prior to using a program. This is, > of course a standard in MS Windows - I don't know if there's a > Linux/FreeBSD/Solaris equivalent. Anyhow if there's a way to view the > help files it would be of great help to me - who knows? Maybe even to > others. Thanks. Locate the soffice.exe file in the "Program Files" directory using Windows Explorer. Try from a command line:- "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3.0\program\soffice.exe" -help - The Path may vary with your version. This should do what you want. If it does, you can create a desktop icon by choosing one of the other processes (like writer) from the Windows start menu "Start - (all) programs- OpenOffice.org 3.0 - Writer". Right click on this start menu entry and choose "Send to - Desktop (create shortcut)". Right click the new desktop icon and choose "Properties". Edit the approprite property field to reflect our new command line entry. Click OK Right click and "rename" the shortcut appropriately. Test it still works WARNING: Untested, i'm running on linux. Some of the responses regarding hijacking have been a little over the top and consequently the original intention of your post has been sidetracked into yet another worthless discussion. It should have been sufficient to give a small explanation of what hijacking is and why it does not benefit anyone. When i look at the mailing listguidelines, there is no requirement about hijacking - other than the subheading "stay on topic". So i will explain why it does not benefit either the list, the OP or hijacker. * Future searchability - many online archives will do a search by subject, as a full body-text search is much longer to perform (applies especially to moderate/high volume lists). If correctly threaded then the search application only needs check the first post in each thread for subject. Changed subjects will get missed. * It upsets people. Not so much because of the undesirability of hijacking itself but because of the protracted flame wars that can result. * It is a dis-service to the OP - s/he gets replies to their post which are totally off topic. In paticular, on this thread, nobody has replied to Loren's original question, instead everyone has become engrossed in the side issue (sorry Loren, i cannot help with your question). * It will not benefit the hijacker - Many will have looked at the original post, deciding if they can or cannot help and collapsed the thread if they have no further interest in the thread - in which case they do not see any future replies. The hijacker will then loose valuable replies to the question because those that can help will not see it. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Standalone Help Files
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:57:04 +1200 Came this utterance formulated by Michael Adams to my mailbox: > On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:50:00 -0400 > Came this utterance formulated by Ugly Me to my mailbox: > > > How do you view help files outside of OOo? As with a few other open > > source programs I have used, it uses some bizarre help format that > > is totally incompatible with the standard .hlp/.cnt/.fts and > > .chm/.chw files that are easily viewed from the desktop or virtually > > any directory window by double clicking them. I find this quite > > useful when trying to look up a reference prior to using a program. > > This is, of course a standard in MS Windows - I don't know if > > there's a Linux/FreeBSD/Solaris equivalent. Anyhow if there's a way > > to view the help files it would be of great help to me - who knows? > > Maybe even to others. Thanks. > > Locate the soffice.exe file in the "Program Files" directory using > Windows Explorer. > Try from a command line:- > "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3.0\program\soffice.exe" -help > - The Path may vary with your version. > This should do what you want. > Sorry this brings up a small command line help message. > If it does, you can create a desktop icon by choosing one of the other > processes (like writer) from the Windows start menu "Start - (all) > programs- OpenOffice.org 3.0 - Writer". > Right click on this start menu entry and choose "Send to - Desktop > (create shortcut)". > Right click the new desktop icon and choose "Properties". > Edit the approprite property field to reflect our new command line > entry. > Click OK > Right click and "rename" the shortcut appropriately. > Test it still works > > WARNING: Untested, i'm running on linux. > > Some of the responses regarding hijacking have been a little over the > top and consequently the original intention of your post has been > sidetracked into yet another worthless discussion. It should have been > sufficient to give a small explanation of what hijacking is and why it > does not benefit anyone. > When i look at the mailing listguidelines, there is no requirement > about hijacking - other than the subheading "stay on topic". So i will > explain why it does not benefit either the list, the OP or hijacker. > > * Future searchability - many online archives will do a search by > subject, as a full body-text search is much longer to perform > (applies especially to moderate/high volume lists). If correctly > threaded then the search application only needs check the first post > in each thread for subject. Changed subjects will get missed. > > * It upsets people. Not so much because of the undesirability of > hijacking itself but because of the protracted flame wars that can > result. > > * It is a dis-service to the OP - s/he gets replies to their post > which > are totally off topic. In paticular, on this thread, nobody has > replied to Loren's original question, instead everyone has become > engrossed in the side issue (sorry Loren, i cannot help with your > question). > > * It will not benefit the hijacker - Many will have looked at the > original post, deciding if they can or cannot help and collapsed the > thread if they have no further interest in the thread - in which case > they do not see any future replies. The hijacker will then loose > valuable replies to the question because those that can help will not > see it. > > -- > Michael > > All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things > shall be well > > - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Change default settings for Calc "paste special"
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:04:59 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by Loren to my mailbox: > When "pasting special" in Calc, my default is "paste all" with all > options selected except "numbers". I can change it, but when all > current instances of OO are closed and restarted, it goes back to > "paste all". > > Can this default be changed? > I would repost this query - the hijack seems to have taken over the thread. Sorry i can't help directly. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] [OT] Presentation for work
I have prepared a presentation for work and would like people to look over it for me. It is available to view as flash or download as an ODP. More here: http://whyodf.blogspot.com/ Comment either on the blog or the discuss mailing list. I don't think it is an appropriate topic here. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [OT] Presentation for work
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:09:13 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Charles T. Bell to my mailbox: > If you or anyone else comes across a way to convert a presentation > in Impress with music to a .WMV or SWF, I would appreciate you > letting me know. Impress exports directly as a SWF, not sure about included music though. WMV is a Microsoft filetype with more vendor lock-in than DOC so is to be strenuously avoided whenever possible. > I took a look at your presentation here and it is well done. > Personally, I eschew the use of "that" when referring to > people for "who", however, it is in common use today. I Left school early and write as i speak, so to be honest i am not sure what you mean re "that" and "who". I'd have to look up eschew for a starter, then i would perhaps still not know if you are telling me i should be using that instead of who or vice versa. > Thanks and good luck with your presentation. > Thankyou Tom. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Impress basics - HELP!
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:32:07 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by NoOp to my mailbox: > On 04/01/2009 11:35 AM, bg wrote: > > I am attempting without much success to create a very simple, > > basic slideshow, consisting of 25 slides, each of which needs to > > contain no more than one to four lines of text. > > > > *Is* it possible to create simple pages with nothing but words > > on them, in Impress? Without having to deal with graphical > > "text object" fields and such? Can it operate as a simple editor? > > Yes. Select the blank layout, then View|Toolbars|Drawing - select the > 'T' icon, place your cursor where you'd like to start, and start > typing. > There are two modes to the ensuing text boxes, "text edit" and "treat me like a graphic". When in text edit mode the box has a hatched wide border. When in graphic mode it has the eight green handles a graphic does. Click on the hatching to move into graphic mode or double click the text to move into text edit mode. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [OT] Presentation for work
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:16:29 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Dave Post to my mailbox: > > I've sent comments to the email address you use for posting here. I > didn't see a way to comment on the blog without having an account I > lack and don't know what the "discuss mailing list" is. > Thanks to those who offered help and constructive criticisms. I'm putting in a big rewrite session this weekend. Google require a GMail Account or similar to minimise spam. Discuss and other lists (including this users list) explained here: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Scroll to the table for the descriptions. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Highlight row
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:55:06 +0300 Came this utterance formulated by Dotan Cohen to my mailbox: > I can manage with all the methods mentioned, including the mouse > methods, but I already knew them. The long keyboard shortcut is > tiresome (Home -> Shift-End) when I see that I'm doing it literally > tens of times in a row, [snip] You may be able to record a macro which could be used to do this key combination. Then apply the new macro to a key combination itself. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Impress basics - HELP!
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:35:58 -0800 Came this utterance formulated by bg to my mailbox: > I am attempting without much success to create a very simple, > basic slideshow, consisting of 25 slides, each of which needs to > contain no more than one to four lines of text. > > No graphics. > > No colors. > > No special effects. > > Especially, no special pre-designed formats. > Wishing to revisit this. Did you manage to get this to work. I suddenly thought from your description that you may have been trying to do all this on the "Notes" layout tab - which will not work. Instead the majority of slide editing must be performed in the "Normal" View. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Impress basics - HELP!
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:25:40 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by NoOp to my mailbox: > > > > There are two modes to the ensuing text boxes, "text edit" and > > "treat me like a graphic". When in text edit mode the box has a > > hatched wide border. When in graphic mode it has the eight green > > handles a graphic does. Click on the hatching to move into graphic > > mode or double click the text to move into text edit mode. > > > > No - unless I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to point out. In > this instance, when using the 'T' icon from the drawing toolbar (show > visible Text button) and clicking on a blank presentation sheet the > result is _text_ not a graphic. F1/Help: text;toolbar. If you prefer > not to open the entire Draw toolbar, then you can open and dock the > Text buttons to the standard toolbar: View|Toolbars|Text. > Yes - not to belabour the point but in Impress if you type some text into a box then you can: A. click on the diagonal hatching that borders that text box or B. click on the select (arrow) tool which is first on the drawing toolbar then you can alter the rectangular box that the text is typed in as if it were a graphic. The hatching is turned off, the text tool bar is replaced with line and area toolbar. You can alternatively "Format - Line", "Format - Area" and "Format - Position and Size" as if it were a normal drawn rectangle, hence a graphic. To toggle back to text editing mode (with the diagonal hatching) click in the text. This also works in Draw and possibly Writer. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Character spacing
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:09:00 +0200 Came this utterance formulated by Guido Milanese to my mailbox: > In a long text the publisher required me to use character spacing for > some quotations. I did it manually, using Format | > Character... | Position - Spacing, and it was all right, but I was not > aware of the existence of character styles in Writer > (normally I write in LaTeX). Now the publisher says that he wants a > real space to be added between characters, e.g. "p u b l i s h". > A funny request, but is there any way to automatize the change? Or to > transform manually selected text into character style? > I understand it's a funny request! Find and replace may be able to do what you wish. But you would need to use Regular expressions. How would spaces be treated? Paragraphs? -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] File Conversion
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Came this utterance formulated by L. P. Prete to my mailbox: > Is there any way to print a text file created in OOo on a computer > that has only Microsoft Word 2003? > Several methods - in decreasing preference. 1. Supply them OpenOffice.org (Telling them that Microsoft is reducing support for Office 2003 on April 14). It will work on the same computer beside Microsoft Office. 2. Use Portable OpenOffice on a flash stick. 3. Download one of the ODF plugins for Microsoft Office. www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/ 4. Save from your copy of OpenOffice.org in the now obsolete DOC format (see the Filetype selector in the "Save As..." dialogue box). -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Impress basics - HELP!/Adams
On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:08:35 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by bg to my mailbox: > > > Came this utterance formulated by bg to my mailbox: > > > > > I am attempting without much success to create a very simple, > > > basic slideshow, > > Michael Adams wrote: > > > Wishing to revisit this. Did you manage to get this to work. > > > > I suddenly thought from your description that you may have been > > trying to do all this on the "Notes" layout tab - which will not > > work. Instead the majority of slide editing must be performed in the > > "Normal" View. > > Brewster: > > Nope - I've been sticking with the "Normal". But I must say, I > have some difficulty considering the text handling offered by > Impress to be anything resembling "normal" when it seems to > be unable to add blank lines in response to a carriage return :-) A text box will autoimatically extend to allow additional paragraphs. > > Sorry to be so tardy in response, but we came down with some sort > of a nasty bug that's pretty much laid us low for several days. > > I'm still suspicious that somehow my copy of OO V2 has been crippled - > I've had responses from people who tried the same recommendations I > tried and got the same non-results I've gotten. This thing should > really be fairly simple, and perhaps would be were the docs somewhat > more forthcoming. Part of my problem is that I've never tried creating > a presentation slide show before, and I have always had some serious > difficulty in working out how to deal with text when it is > being treated as part of a graphics block - it just behaves in too > many facets entirely differently from the way it does in a word > processor. > But it does behave entirely consistantly with other presentation software i have used. It also behaves mainly in accord with other vector graphics based text editing software as well (Draw, Corel Draw, Inkscape). The difference between this and a word processor is expected and must be learned as were your original word processing skills. Your original post stated you could not create text boxes to type or copy and paste into. If this is still the case then you may have a defective program. But it could also be that you do not have the full learning required. I would: A. Download the manual for Impress and have a good read. http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/index.html B. If your problem still persists then uninstall and install the latest version either of OO.o V2 http://download.openoffice.org/2.4.2/index.html or V3 http://www.openoffice.org/ Sorry i can't be more help. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] If statements in calc
On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:55:00 -0500
Came this utterance formulated by Wade Smart to my mailbox:
> Wade Smart wrote:
> > Wade Smart wrote:
> >> 20090409 1627 GMT-6
> >>
> >> I have a spread sheet where I keep track of times.
> >>
> >> Example:
> >> E2 = start time
> >> E3 = end time
> >> E4 = total time(e3-e2)
> >>
> >> G2 = start time
> >> G3 = end time
> >> G4 = total time(g3-g2)
> >>
> >> There are potentially five of these sets of numbers.
> >>
> >> What I want to do is take the initial start time at E2 and subtract
> >it > from either G,I,K, or M3 to get the TOTAL elapsed time.
> >>
> >> So, for example
> >> =(if (G3 == null) { I3 }) - E2
> >>
> >> Something like that.
> >>
> >> Wade
> >
> >
> > 20090409 1644 GMT-6
> >
> > Ah, I didnt have the syntax down right:
> > =(IF(G755 =0; G755; I755))-E754
> >
Love watching people learn via email ;)
>
> 20090409 1954 GMT-6
>
> =IF(G755 = 0; I755; IF(I755 = 0; K755; IF(K755 = 0; M755; IF(M755 = 0;
> E755 - E754
>
If it is getting complex i like to relate it back to a fuller
psuedo Basic like syntax:
*** psuedo code ***
this cell content equals
if (g755 = 0;
then this = i755;
else if (i755 = 0;
then this = k755;
else if (k755 = 0;
then this = m755;
else if (m755 = 0;
then this = e755
)
)
)
)
- e754
Because i lost what you are trying to do, this pseudo code method may
help you - or not.
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Michael
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Re: [users] Convert PDF
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:56:00 -0600 Came this utterance formulated by Walter Hildebrandt to my mailbox: > using 3.0 with WindowsXP. There is a PDF file on my desktop that I > would like to copy the contents into a OOo Writer file and be able to > edit the contents in the OOo Writer file. Can this be done? > PDF is meant as a presentational format primarily, not as an editable format. You may however get some good results with the following: http://www.oooninja.com/2008/06/pdf-import-hybrid-odf-pdfs-extension-30.html http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OO's file "Filter Selection" pane
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:59:17 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by John Kaufmann to my mailbox: > Trying to open a Base file (that was apparently corrupted in saving), First i'll make an assumption. As you are using the latest Thunderbird on Vista you are probably using the latest OO.o. The vista dialogue box for saving has an option to untick adding of automatic file extensions. If this was done then your database may not be corrupt but misnamed. The correct extension is .odb for a database. > OO opens instead a "Filter Selection" pane, which implictly invites > one to pick a filter that handles that file type. Which if the database file was corrupt then it would not matter which filter you applied. But you do have a second chance of recovering data if you add a .zip extension and unpack the file. If it unpacks cleanly then it was likely not corrupt. As for the minor filter issue you have raised, i haven't addressed this as it is the wrong forum for RFE's. Try here: http://qa.openoffice.org/ -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Problems saving a file as a .doc file
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:52:52 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by Arnold Roth to my mailbox: > I've been using the 2.4 version of OOo for some time and have saved > write files as .doc format for communicating with others who only have > Microsoft Office. Now I've updated to the 3.0 version and my first > attempt at saving a file in this format won't work. I'm doing the > same thing I've always done, namely, Save As Microsoft Word .doc > format. When I do this the file appears as an .odt file. > During this process was the file previously saved as an ODT file? I ask because i have seen files come up as myfile.odt.doc which seems to put the save filters into a tizz. I found that as well as changing the filetype i had to delete the pre-existing file suffix. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [OT] Presentation for work
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:16:29 -0400
Came this utterance formulated by Dave Post to my mailbox:
> On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:02 AM, Michael Adams wrote:
>
> >
> > I have prepared a presentation for work and would like people to
> > look over it for me. It is available to view as flash or download as
> > an ODP.
> > More here:
> > http://whyodf.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Comment either on the blog or the discuss mailing list. I don't
> > think it
> > is an appropriate topic here.
>
> Michael,
>
> I've sent comments to the email address you use for posting here. I
> didn't see a way to comment on the blog without having an account I
> lack and don't know what the "discuss mailing list" is.
>
> Dave
>
Used a lot of your suggestions in updating the presentation. And taken
on a lot of stuff from others. A lot of the support data has moved to
the notes.
http://whyodf.blogspot.com/2009/04/presentation-version-101.html
Still got a lot more to do, like replacing text with graphics where i
can.
Also got an interesting comment from someone called open_sauce on the
earlier post. They admonished me to give an "objective comparison" then
debated my points. In a debate one takes sides, not making a balanced
comparison (which is subjective anyway) {shrug}, kind of negates his own
argument. But i intent to blog a point by point reply.
The discuss mailing list is explained here Dave:
http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html
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Re: [users] [moderated] Graphics formats (was question)
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:27:44 +0200 Came this utterance formulated by enric to my mailbox: > dear all, > > when I put a photogaphy onto writer I am not able to transform it in > jpg format like it is done in office, is it possible? then the files > are lighter. > Transforming graphiccs formats is not what a word processor is about. However, if you copy and paste into a Draw document, then you should be able to export the selected image as a JPG. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [moderated] Registration
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:18:26 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by Josettem Miller to my mailbox: > I have downloaded the open office. On opening the program for the > first time I get the registration window. I do not wish to register. I > downloaded org3.xDisable first start Wzd_ooo3.oxt after reading > something on the net but now I do not know what to do. I am not very > knowledgeable in these matters, I wonder if you can advise. You can go through the registration process entering minimal registration information. On the last page of the wizard is a radio button option "I do not wish to register". This will not send anything away, and the registration process will complete as per normal. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Integrated Mail - was Re: [users] Re: [moderated] (UNSUBSCRIBED USER)
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:51:48 +0100 Came this utterance formulated by Harold Fuchs to my mailbox: > > > I think there are a few reasons why people, particularly Windows > people, want integrated mail: > > * Windows computers often come with Outlook (or Outlook Express) > mail and MS Office pre-installed so people think they belong > together. > * Many versions of MS Office come with Outlook or Outlook Express > so people think ... Outlook Express comes with Windows, but not with all versions of windows. Outlook comes with Office. > * Users of Outlook (but not of Outlook Express) have (used to > have???) an option to configure Word as their "mail editor". If > you choose this option then, when you either create a new > message or reply to an existing one Outlook invokes some sort of > inbuilt version of Word (it probably uses the Word API). You > type your message with all (most?) of Word's editing > capabilities, including things like tables, but then you just > hit Send. No separate document is saved. The Word window is > within an Outlook window so things like your address book, Send > button, space for Subject etc. are just there. Your mail > "signature" , if defined, is automatically added. IMHO this is one of the worst uses possible. This formatted mail exports as an HTML mail. Word is notorious for bad HTML which it seems to have aquired from the equally notorious Frontpage. Non-standard, custom tags galore, bloated HTML mails - grrr. And i am increasingly seeing no quoting of quoted text - whats up with that? http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/01/10/microsoft-breaks-html-email-rendering-in-outlook/ > * Spell checking is integrated between Outlook (or Outlook > Express) and Word. And if you uninstall Word, Outlook Express spell checking breaks! > I think it's a shame that OOo's spell checker can't integrate with, > say, Thunderbird's. You used to be able to copy TB's dictionary into > an OOo directory somewhere (or OOo's dictionary into a TB directory) > but even that is no longer possible since the advent of OOo 3.x with > its new scheme for handling dictionaries as extensions. Ho hum. > I like the option to choose my email program seperately from my Office software, it allows mix and match. Thunderbird/lightning integration with OO.o is pretty good. Sun has/had programmers on that. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How to print in Handout mode
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:00:11 -0500 Came this utterance formulated by Wade Smart to my mailbox: > 20090423 1659 GMT-6 > > My son needs to print about 100 slides and I wanted to do it in > Handout Mode but I cant seem to print like that. > It's in the printer options. Try six pages per sheet. I got caught out printing multiple copies as well. If he does this he needs to add blank slides to round it to a multiple of six (or however many pages per sheet). If not rounded copy two starts on the page copy one finishes. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] spellcheck doesn't work :((((((
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:14:56 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Jordan Deitch to my mailbox: > Thanks a lot for the replies everyone! I am using Ubuntu 9.04 with OO > 3.0.1. I am not using quickstart. spellcheck only works on blank > documents. Spellcheck does NOT work on any of the themed presentations > that come with OO. I never even used OO before this, so the problem > couldn't be due to my error. These themes must be in a different language to yours. Highlight the text and change the language in "Format - Character" (From Memory). OpenOffice.org will check English in multiple versions on one document depending on Spelling Checkers installed. Someone may have had their default language set to Finnish when they wrote the themes? -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Differences between the OpenDocument Text (.odt) format and the Word (.docx) format
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:17:10 +0300 Came this utterance formulated by Dotan Cohen to my mailbox: > I found this terrific document onf the microsoft site which answers a > rather FAQ regarding ODTsuitability: > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA102835631033.aspx > > Note that this document compares ODT with DOCX, not OOo with MSO. > No, it doesn't. It claims to, then shows which Microsoft Word features can be saved, partially saved, or not saved in ODT format. In short, it compares Word with ODT (One a program and one a file format). First, remember that Microsoft Word DOCX is not OOXML or ECMA 376 but a prerelease of these formats. Note also that this document does not claim OOXML compatability as Word 2007 does not have any. One further thing i will point out is that OOXML compatibility is not expected till the next version of Office is released. However it may be impossible in the future to tell if one is dealing with a Microsoft Office 2007 XML document, an ECMA 376-1 or an ECMA 376-2 - ISO/IEC 26500:2008 document as no document version identifier exists within the three save formats yet. My conclusion is saving anything in Microsoft Office XML formats is stupid at present. http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-376.htm http://idippedut.dk/post/2009/02/06/Versioning-of-OOXML-(thank-you-for-all-the-fish).aspx As for the article, each program utilises different abilities in each save format. Each version of Office extended the Microsoft binary formats as features were added. I wonder how many of the features quoted can be Opened by Office 97 and 2000 from an Office 2007 DOC save file? In other words what they are really trying to say without, actually saying it is that Office 2007 DOCX is more tightly integrated with Word that ODT - Well duh! They were designed together to support each other. Many programs have been made to support ODF as the default format - not just one. The fact that the existing DOCX format won't really exist much beyond Word 2007 should have a bearing in the save choice one makes. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Differences between the OpenDocument Text (.odt) format and the Word (.docx) format
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:23:29 +0300 Came this utterance formulated by Dotan Cohen to my mailbox: > >> Note that this document compares ODT with DOCX, not OOo with MSO. > >> > > > > No, it doesn't. It claims to, then shows which Microsoft Word > > features can be saved, partially saved, or not saved in ODT format. > > In short, it compares Word with ODT (One a program and one a file > > format). > > That is a valid statement, only because of this: > > > saying it is that Office 2007 DOCX is more tightly integrated with > > Word that ODT - Well duh! They were designed together to support > > each other. > > Which validates my statement. Not if you are using OO.o! Only if you have shelled out for a bad product. One which doesn't support either of the new international standard XML file formats out of the box. Only if you then use this bad product to make the comparison. A program designed to support a file save format, and a file save format designed to support a program smells somewhat like a vendor lock-in scenario. Thankfully Microsoft may have to move away from this now OOXML is out of their direct control. In other words future Word programs will need to change to support the file formats, just like other programs. This will leave MSO 2007 as a hybrid mongrel which really well supports an orphan format. > But anti-MS rants aside. Surprised it came over that way. I thought I had only ranted against Microsoft Office XML use. Now i have added a rant against MSO 2007 which i don't like for other reasons as well :) -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] spellcheck doesn't work :((((((
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:30:13 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Jordan Deitch to my mailbox: > > I did the ctrl M thing and it didn't appear to do anything. > I am using the templates that come with OO. The problem exists on all > of the templates. If needed, I can create a blank templated > presentation and send it to you. > > Thanks > First thing is to get a format change to stick. Second is to save these alternative changes as the replacement templates. I do know in Writer that there are three places that language can be changed, not sure if the same applies to Impress. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Differences between the OpenDocument Text (.odt) format and the Word (.docx) format
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:54:31 -0700 (MST) Came this utterance formulated by Robert Holtzman to my mailbox: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > >> After the site scans your computer to see if you have MSO installed > >you get> to the part that says > >> > >> "You have arrived at this page because you selected an item that is > >> available only if you have a 2007 Microsoft Office suite or other > >2007> Microsoft Office System program installed." > >> > >> I think I'll pass. > >> > > > > Try it in Firefox on Linux. It displays the page just fine :) > > That's all I have on the computer. > Did you have Cookies on or off for the site? -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] spellcheck doesn't work :((((((
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:32:45 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Jordan Deitch to my mailbox: > Just reinstalled, and still get the same problem. > Whatever, I will just have to reset everything to English every time I > open Impress. Hope this problem gets sorted out. > > Thanks a ton for all the help everyone! > I asked on the local Linux User Group Mailing list and managed to find another Ubuntu user that was able to confirm the Finnish language default. http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/nzlug/2009-April/016216.html I am trying to trace it back - to see if it originates in OO.o, Go-oo or Ubuntu. Without being able to replicate this (I am on Mandriva, not Ubuntu) i need others help. To raise an issue we need to know who to rais ethe issue with. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] ATTN: NoOp - spellcheck doesn't work
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:28:29 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by NoOp to my mailbox: > > I am trying to trace it back - to see if it originates in OO.o, > > Go-oo or Ubuntu. Without being able to replicate this (I am on > > Mandriva, not Ubuntu) i need others help. To raise an issue we need > > to know who to rais ethe issue with. > > > > > > I'm a little late in the thread (admit I haven't read all posts), but > I checked on my Ubuntu 9.04 Ubuntu'ized OOo 3.0.1 openoffice.org-core- > 1:3.0.1-9ubuntu3, Tue Apr 14 and my default templates are English. My > locale is en_US.UTF8. Default language is also set to English. > >From elsewhere please try this: In Impress after selecting a template, and clicking create, go to Tools- Options- Language Settings- Languages See if it is English there. TIA -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: ATTN: NoOp - spellcheck doesn't work
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:03:42 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by NoOp to my mailbox: > On 04/29/2009 11:02 AM, Terence Warby wrote: > > Michael Adams wrote: > >> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:28:29 -0700 > >> Came this utterance formulated by NoOp to my mailbox: > >> > >> > >>>> I am trying to trace it back - to see if it originates in OO.o, > >>>> Go-oo or Ubuntu. Without being able to replicate this (I am on > >>>> Mandriva, not Ubuntu) i need others help. To raise an issue we > >need>>> to know who to rais ethe issue with. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I'm a little late in the thread (admit I haven't read all posts), > >but>> I checked on my Ubuntu 9.04 Ubuntu'ized OOo 3.0.1 > >openoffice.org-core->> 1:3.0.1-9ubuntu3, Tue Apr 14 and my default > >templates are English. My>> locale is en_US.UTF8. Default language is > >also set to English.>> > >>> > >> > >> >From elsewhere please try this: > >> > >> In Impress after selecting a template, and clicking create, go to > >> Tools- Options- Language Settings- Languages > >> See if it is English there. TIA > >> > >> > > Just tried it - Default Language - Finnish > > > > User interface set to Default > > Locale setting shown as English (UK) > > > > 3.0.1 (Ubuntu'ised) on Ubuntu 9.04 > > Maybe a locale issue? Can you post the output of: > > $ locale > At this stage i'm tempted to post it as an Ubuntu issue. They can then trace it back to Go-oo or OpenOffice.org as to its origin. It could be the English-UK download version that has this issue. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Unsubscribing
On Tue, 05 May 2009 10:13:29 -0500 Came this utterance formulated by Wade Smart to my mailbox: > 20090505 1012 GMT-5 > > If you tried and still not get unsubscribed then there are a few > things to try. > > 1) find the email that was sent to you when you subscribed and make > sure your current email and the subscribed email are the SAME email. > > 2) create a filter in your mail client: > if FROM = users@openoffice.org DELETE > I wouldn't do step 2 here. It does not really solve anything. On POP you still have to downlad the unwanted emails. So i do not call this good advice. More important than this i would make sure to reply to the automated email sent from the server once the unsubscribe request has been made. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Unsubscribing
On Tue, 05 May 2009 11:48:31 -0500 Came this utterance formulated by Wade Smart to my mailbox: > Michael Adams wrote: > > On Tue, 05 May 2009 10:13:29 -0500 > > Came this utterance formulated by Wade Smart to my mailbox: > > > >> 20090505 1012 GMT-5 > >> > >> If you tried and still not get unsubscribed then there are a few > >> things to try. > >> > >> 1) find the email that was sent to you when you subscribed and make > >> sure your current email and the subscribed email are the SAME > >email.> > >> 2) create a filter in your mail client: > >> if FROM = users@openoffice.org DELETE > >> > > > > I wouldn't do step 2 here. It does not really solve anything. On POP > > you still have to downlad the unwanted emails. So i do not call this > > good advice. > > > > More important than this i would make sure to reply to the automated > > email sent from the server once the unsubscribe request has been > > made. > > > > > > 20090505 1146 GMT-5 > > The second is good advice if you a) dont want to deal with the emails > and b) CANNOT! get off the list. When there is no one to contact and > you dont want the emails - that is a option. > Under what situation does one have trouble getting off the list? In my experience it is only lack of knowledge of how a mailing list works. I am not blaming people for this lack of knowledge, after all it is a newbie list, but i see no other situation in which this issue arises. > Adding to that second one - IF your ISP has webmail you can setup a > filter there and never have to download it. > -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Unsubscribing
On Tue, 05 May 2009 22:16:17 +0200 Came this utterance formulated by judith.calder to my mailbox: > You know what? If it was straightforward and automatic to unsubscribe > we could all do it. I have followed every bit of advice and am still > getting dozens of unwanted emails every day. > If it was too easy anyone could unsubscribe you or me, i.e. if we got into a heated argument. That simply would not do. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Unsubscribing
On Tue, 05 May 2009 15:27:44 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by McLauchlan, Kevin to my mailbox: > Michael Adams [mailto:mbad...@paradise.net.nz] wondered: > > > Under what situation does one have trouble getting off the list? In > > my experience it is only lack of knowledge of how a mailing list > > works. I am not blaming people for this lack of knowledge, after all > > it is a newbie list, but i see no other situation in which this > > issue arises. > > Here's one. > > I was a long-time subscriber to another list, and then needed to > change something, BUT my company had made a change in our e-mail > system. My e-mail address went from being > @address.com to being > @address.com. > > They allowed a grace period of a couple of years, during which > incoming mail to was accepted along with the > new address. But of course, you see the problem. Long before the > two years was up (in fact the first day of the change) OUTGOING mail > began coming from @address.com. > > Thus, with the same e-mail account as I'd always had, I could no > longer send unsubscribe or confirmation e-mails from my old self - the > self that had originally subscribed... the self that would be > recognized by the automated listserver. > This is a no brainer, explain the problem to the IT dept. and he/she would look after it for you. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Unsubscribing
On Wed, 06 May 2009 13:59:23 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by McLauchlan, Kevin to my mailbox: > > Michael Adams [mailto:mbad...@paradise.net.nz] > > > > Under what situation does one have trouble getting off > > the list? > > > > > > Here's one. > > > > > > I was a long-time subscriber to another list, and then needed to > > > change something, BUT my company had made a change in our e-mail > > > system. My e-mail address went from being > > > @address.com to being > > > @address.com. > > > > > > They allowed a grace period of a couple of years, during which > > > incoming mail to was accepted > > along with the > > > new address. But of course, you see the problem. Long before > > > the two years was up (in fact the first day of the change) > > > OUTGOING mail began coming from > > > @address.com. > > > > > > Thus, with the same e-mail account as I'd always had, I could no > > > longer send unsubscribe or confirmation e-mails from my old > > self - the > > > self that had originally subscribed... the self that would be > > > recognized by the automated listserver. > > > > > > > This is a no brainer, explain the problem to the IT dept. and he/she > > would look after it for you. > > Your comment "no brainer" implies that it takes no brains to solve the > problem and therefore I'm lacking seriously. Obviously, you don't work > for (and have never) a large-ish corporation with the IT department > located a thousand miles away and buffered by procedures and > processes. While it is possible to nag them until they deal with a > problem like that, it risks having them be less accessible and helpful > when a _real_ problem arises. > > Anyway, this was years ago, and somebody (a few posts back) assures me > that listserver software now accepts confirmation e-mails from other > than the original (subscribed) address... which was not the case when > I had the problem. > > I merely provided an example where somebody asked "Under what > situation..." > > > By the way, here's another one you can toss snide "no brainer" > assertions at: > > Some corporations have very convoluted filtering systems, consisting > of multiple, overlaid spam-filtering tools, domain-blocking, and all > sorts of other approches combined. Users of the mail system don't get > access to all mail that has been filtered out. > > By contrast, if the company outsources that task to a mail-filtering > service, their screening is usually more integrated, and users can > access the withheld mail or can edit "white lists" to ensure that > certain mail always comes through (like messages from the spouse or > from the heirs to Nigerian fortunes :-) ) But that's not the case > for everybody who's a cog in a big impersonal system. > No brainer, subscribe at home - not work. A business with a large multi-layered email system is probably adding hugely wastefull email footers anyway, where links to this awful information would suffice. They would make friends by making this information pull - not push. http://www.collaboratemarketing.com/modernmarketing/2009/04/a-few-weeks-ago-one-of-my-clients-told-me-they-valued-my-contribution-because-i-was-trying-do-good-things-you-are-our.html -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Unsubscribing
On Wed, 06 May 2009 16:42:51 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Gene Heskett to my mailbox: > On Wednesday 06 May 2009, McLauchlan, Kevin wrote: > > >HOWEVER, less than two years ago, on this list, we had examples of > >people not receiving the message footer parts. In fact I recall > >receiving posts from _some_ posters (who posted only to the list, not > >to individual members) where the incoming message did not contain the > >unsubscribe administrivia at the bottom. I forget what was the > >source of that situation, but it might be relevant to some of the > >people having trouble. > > Such examples are endemic Kevin. So lets take a poll here. > > How many receivers of this list can see a quote by sci-fi author Ed > Howdershelt at the bottom of this message? if you can, your email > agent is good. If its stripped, your email agent is broken. It > really is that simple. > I could see it, and the unsubscribe information. But that isn't teh point, not all email receive the footer in the first place. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Web development
On Mon, 04 May 2009 08:48:39 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by Beaverton to my mailbox: > Does OO have an application for web development? IE Frontpage type? Yes within writer you can write extremely bloated and buggy web pages just like in Frontpage. Although the now deceased program Frontpage wrote them specifically for the buggy Internet Explorer 6 program. File - New - Writer-web -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: MS Support for ODF [Fwd: OpenOffice.org Ninja]
On Thu, 07 May 2009 13:31:03 +0300 Came this utterance formulated by Dotan Cohen to my mailbox: > > Thought this might be of interest even if OT. > > > > You might want to see this discussion: > http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/02/199203&from=rss > > And especially this link: > http://www.archivum.info/comp.os.linux.advocacy/2008-08/msg00757.html > > In summary, OOo ODF documents will not be compatible with MSO ODF > documents. And that's fine: it's be cause of incomplete specifications > on the part of ODF and bugs in OOo. > > MSO formats have a reference implementation: MSO itself. ODF has no > reference implementation, and OOo is _not_ a reference implementation > by any means. Due to MSO's foothold in the field, it _may_ be wise for > OOo to follow MSO's example in ODF implementation. That is, to use MSO > as the reference implementation. Thoughts? > Microsoft has broken compatability and interoperability with not just one existing program but several. http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/05/update-on-odf-spreadsheet.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_software I'd like to also point out that the original press release by Microsoft about Office SP2 had the subtitle "Move enhances customer choice and interoperability with Microsoft's flagship productivity suite." http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-21ExpandedFormatsPR.mspx It does not do that. They have come in late in the life of ODF V1.1 with a version that breaks on many existing documents. Version 1.1 is a document format not under ongoing development. V1.2 is developing the reference implementation being talked about. Version 1.2 is the next version to go through ISO/IEC standardisation and now the OASIS TC have capped the feature creep issue it should proceed apace. So to Tim Smiths suggestions i reply - this is an established format with existing interoperability between multiple software implementations. What Microsoft has done is run in and spike the football on the playing field, then ask "Now, who wants to play with my ball?". It is the boundary line between steps one and two of Embrace, Extend and Extinguish. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: MS Support for ODF [Fwd: OpenOffice.org Ninja]
On Thu, 07 May 2009 15:11:30 +0300 Came this utterance formulated by Dotan Cohen to my mailbox: > > Microsoft has broken compatability and interoperability with not > > just one existing program but several. > > http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/05/update-on-odf-spreadsheet.html > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_software > > > > You mean to say that deficiencies in the ODF specification led to the > scenario where different software can render the same document in > different ways. OOo is _not_ a reference implementation of ODF. Both ODF and OOXML allow custom namespaces. Anyone can include virtually anything they like into either format. But if your stated goal is interoperability then the Sun ODF plugin worked, SP2 doesn't. > > > I'd like to also point out that the original press release by > > Microsoft about Office SP2 had the subtitle "Move enhances customer > > choice and interoperability with Microsoft's flagship productivity > > suite." > > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-21ExpandedFormatsPR.mspx > > It does not do that. > > > > Any application that chooses to render ODF like MSO renders ODF is > interoperable. OOo can be such an application if it chooses. > Um, no, in the case where a spec doesn't specify then following the crowd is being interoperable. > > > They have come in late in the life of ODF V1.1 with a version that > > breaks on many existing documents. Version 1.1 is a document format > > not under ongoing development. > > > > V1.2 is developing the reference implementation being talked about. > > Version 1.2 is the next version to go through ISO/IEC > > standardisation and now the OASIS TC have capped the feature creep > > issue it should proceed apace. > > > > So to Tim Smiths suggestions i reply - this is an established format > > with existing interoperability between multiple software > > implementations. What Microsoft has done is run in and spike the > > football on the playing field, then ask "Now, who wants to play with > > my ball?". It is the boundary line between steps one and two of > > Embrace, Extend and Extinguish. > > > > Good analogy. I say that OOo play ball. OOo is certain _not_ to win if > it doesn't. To be honest, it leaves ODF as the looser here, as intended, not OO.o. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: MS Support for ODF [Fwd: OpenOffice.org Ninja]
On Thu, 07 May 2009 15:51:31 +0300 Came this utterance formulated by Dotan Cohen to my mailbox: > > Both ODF and OOXML allow custom namespaces. Anyone can include > > virtually anything they like into either format. But if your stated > > goal is interoperability then the Sun ODF plugin worked, SP2 > > doesn't. > > > > Their stated goal was with ODF, not with OOo. > > My stated goal of being interoperable with MSO users means supporting > what MSO comes with, not a third-party plugin. > > >> Any application that chooses to render ODF like MSO renders ODF is > >> interoperable. OOo can be such an application if it chooses. > >> > > > > Um, no, in the case where a spec doesn't specify then following the > > crowd is being interoperable. > > > > Again, their goal was to be interoperable with the spec to achieve > standards-compliance. OOo-compatibility was not their goal. > > > > To be honest, it leaves ODF as the looser here, as intended, not > > OO.o. > > > > That _will_ be the case if OOo and MSO (the two largest players in the > field) render it differently, and as you very well state that will > kill ODF. That is why OOo should start rendering ODF 1.2 documents as > MSO renders them. It keeps ODF safe, and it makes OOo a drop-in > replacement for MSO. Now I understand, you think Microsoft are using ODF V1.2! They aren't, they are using a bastardised 1.1 which does not conform to what other 1.1 using programs already use _interoperably_. They are the latecomers onto the stage with a fubar implementation. Nobody is going to change another program to break compatibilty with documents already saved in this format. The 1.2 spec is still under development in OASIS. > The truth is, I don't like playing follow the leader either. But in > this unique example, I do say that OOo should play by MS's rules, to > make their toehold in the industry stand. Just as OOo looks to MSO as > the reference implementation of DOC, so should it be with ODF. > I disagree. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: MS Support for ODF [Fwd: OpenOffice.org Ninja]
On Thu, 07 May 2009 16:49:32 +0300 Came this utterance formulated by Dotan Cohen to my mailbox: > > Now I understand, you think Microsoft are using ODF V1.2! > > No, but starting from 1.2 I think would be a good point. Starting in > the middle of 1.1 will be a mess. > Which is what Microsoft have done and are trying to create. > > They aren't, > > they are using a bastardised 1.1 which does not conform to what > > other 1.1 using programs already use _interoperably_. > > They are using 1.1 as defined by the OASIS consortium. The standard is > loose enough to allow their different interpretation. That is a fault > of the standard. > It is an "Open Standard" with open flexibility written in. Anyone can write an incompatible format but why would you unless the intention was to create anarchy? > > They are the latecomers > > onto the stage with a fubar implementation. Nobody is going to > > change another program to break compatibilty with documents already > > saved in this format. The 1.2 spec is still under development in > > OASIS. > > > > This is why I say to leave 1.1 as it is, and to render 1.2 as MSO > renders 1.2. The detail going into 1.2 is being nutted out, and Microsoft is a contributor. > >> The truth is, I don't like playing follow the leader either. But in > >> this unique example, I do say that OOo should play by MS's rules, > >to> make their toehold in the industry stand. Just as OOo looks to > >MSO as> the reference implementation of DOC, so should it be with > >ODF.> > > > > I disagree. > > > > There are two choices: have a reference implementation or don't. Which > do you think is better for the standard? We had a large list of programs already vcoexisting as a reference implementation. If Microsoft wanted to change the format then they should and are doing it in 1.2. Not make a mess of 1.1 where many existing files already exist. BTW 1.1 was never intended to go to ISO/IEC. It is an OASIS standard, not an international one. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: MS Support for ODF [Fwd: OpenOffice.org Ninja]
On Fri, 08 May 2009 19:26:38 +0300 Came this utterance formulated by Dotan Cohen to my mailbox: > > The whole market has chosen standard ODF, MS has not. > > > > As MS is over 95% of the market, that is quite a loaded statement. > Of the millions of existing ODF V1.0-1.1 documents, less than 1% of which are on the net[1], how many are created by Microsoft Office? Certainly not 95%. How many are likely to be created by Microsoft in the future, given that it reduces rather than expands interoperability? [1] Countable by Google using "filetype:odt" etc. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Lines with arrows
On Sun, 10 May 2009 14:47:48 +0800 Came this utterance formulated by Bashar Maree to my mailbox: > In Draw, is it possible to connect 2 objects with an arrowed line but > the arrow needs to be in the middle of line, not at the end. Thanks. > There is no line with a centre arrow AFAIK, you will have to use a workaround. I would look at using an arrowhead and 2 connectors or a conector with an arrowhead meeting another connector. Perhaps even grouping them as one object. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Calc: insert a date string into a cell - not a function, not a format.
On Wed, 13 May 2009 19:49:58 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by First Last to my mailbox: > I want to insert a string into a cell using keystrokes. I'm sorry this > will seem overdone, but I want people to know I've tried to research > this on my own. > > I'm using Open Office 3.0-r14320, I use PCLinuxOS and this version of > Open Office came from the PCLinuxOS repository. For some reason, there > are no Open Office help files installed (in Calc, F1 creates error). > > The string I want to insert is the current date, this is a static > number. I don't want the date() function, nor do I want the time() > function, nor do I want any other function which will change when F9 > is pressed. I also do not wish to 'work around' by pasting a function > then later copy and paste the value of the cell over the function. I > do not want to use nor do I want to create a 'Macro'. I'm not asking > 'how do I change the format of the current (or any other) cell'. > You have a couple of options. First you can use "=today()" in the cell but this will update automatically. Not quite what is desired. Second you can type the date in according to your locale settings, probably "14/5/09" or "5/14/09". This will remain fixed because it saves as a number. Note no equals sign. Most complex is probably a macro which would take a "=today()" and copy and paste the content - not the formula of the cell. The beauty of a macro is it may be set up on a toolbar or a keyboard shortcut as desired. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Inserting a star on a bitmap
On Sat, 16 May 2009 14:54:16 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Eustace to my mailbox: > I want to add a star on a gif. I have opened the gif. According to the > OOo Help: > > "Click an icon on the Stars and Banners toolbar, and then drag in the > document to draw the shape." > > How do you do this? If I right click and hold down on a star icon and > move the pointer to the point I would like to put the star nothing > happens. If I double click on the star, when the pointer moves on the > gif it becomes a + and moves the gif if I click and hold. Help, > please. > First you click on the shape. Then you move to the document - then you drag your shape to whatever size you wish. It can then be repositioned, resized, recoloured and have its border changed as you wish. It will sit in a layer above the GIF image. It will not automatically become a part of the GIF. You will not be able to save the existing GIF with the star added. If you are in Draw, you can however, export a selection of multiple objects as a single GIF which would achieve thte same result. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Borders on Graphics WAS (Inserting a star on a bitmap)
On Sun, 17 May 2009 08:06:21 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Eustace to my mailbox: > On 2009-05-17 07:33 Eustace wrote: > > On 2009-05-16 18:02 Brian Barker wrote: > >> At 14:54 16/05/2009 -0400, Eustace Fril wrote: > >>> I want to add a star on a gif. I have opened the gif. According to > >>> the OOo Help: > >>> > >>> "Click an icon on the Stars and Banners toolbar, and then drag in > >the >> document to draw the shape." > >>> > >>> How do you do this? If I right click and hold down on a star icon > >and >> move the pointer to the point I would like to put the star > >nothing >> happens. If I double click on the star, when the pointer > >moves on the >> gif it becomes a + and moves the gif if I click and > >hold. Help, please.> > >> Are you doing this in a text (Writer) document or a drawing (Draw) > >> one? You don't say which. > > > > A drawing (Draw). > > > >> A bit of experimentation suggests that to achieve what you want in > >> Draw, it is necessary that the existing image should *not* be > >selected > before you charge the cursor, as it were, with > >star-drawing ability. > If the image shows the eight green handles, > >click outside it first to > deselect it before going to the star > >symbol in the toolbar. > > > > After yours and Michael's reply I experimented a little more and > > finally managed it. > > > >> Writer behaves differently and does not show this problem. > > > > So there _is_ a problem. It did seem that somehow the behavior was > > not what I expected. > > > >> At least, that's how it works in my 3.1.0 under Windows XP. > > > > 3.0.1. Same OS. > > > >> I trust this helps. > >> > >> Brian Barker > > > > Thanks, > > > > emf > > One clarification to what I wrote: when I select Line > Style > > -None-, the borders do appear white. But, as I said, when I select > another style, there is no option of Color > Automatic, so that the > borders appear white and print black, like the text does. Now you are getting confusing. When you select line - style - none there should be no line at all. If you choose automatic colour for text it contrasts with the background colour. If it is a dark background text is white, if a light background text is black. If you were to set automatic colour for a graphic border line, your star in this case, should it contrast with the graphic object colour which it is the border too, or the background colour? What if the star is black and the background white, then what should the automatic colour be? -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Macro conversion
On Mon, 18 May 2009 16:55:38 +0800 Came this utterance formulated by (Chen Hao) to my mailbox: > Hello! > > Dose anyone know how/where to get a Macro Migration Tool? > I Searched it on the google . all webpages said where was a Tool could > do x ,but no one said where to get this. > > I have too many MS Excel Macro for work, and never wanna rewrie them > all. It's too terrible...>_< > > Thx VM! > As a general rule those converting the office to OO.o tend to keep an old licensed copy of Office around for old Macros. Just make the rule that new Macros be in OO.o and any older spreadsheets be reviewed for update to ODF when modifications are required. Sun StarOffice has a Office Macro tool but it isn't foolproof AFAIK. They do claim that StarOffice 9 converts Office Macros instantly: http://www.sun.com/software/staroffice/faqs.jsp#g1 See the answer to question 11. One copy of StarOffice 9 may be of benefit to you. Any reference at Sun to the "Macro Conversion Tool" referred to StarOffice 8 circa 2004-5 AFAICT. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
