On 17/01/2013 17:50, log...@cox.net wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=kt3Oj-Dq-MM
I was appalled, insulted, and amused all at the same time.
That is really quite magical ...
Speaking of Conforce, I really enjoyed this mix of his from a couple of
months back:
http://soundcloud.com/smokemachinetaipei/smoke-machine-podcast-061
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Ronny Pries r...@rohformat.de wrote:
I'm still hammering the Silent Harbour album on Echocord by Conforce
Got to agree with that, I love Shed's work and the albums stand up to
repeated listening.
It sounds like I need to check Actress out - which album to start with? :-)
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Marsel van der Wielen
mar...@nomorewords.net wrote:
maybe obvious, but album-wise I'm still
Been (mostly) lurking since the mid '90s, based in Hertfordshire (UK).
Still buying plenty of music :-)
Still here. Originally subbed in '94 or so. On and off since then.
In Sydney now and indulging in a fair bit of music every day but not
getting enough time to seriously write any.
Simon
On 28/11/2012 10:57 PM, maxphi...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from
I'd have to fit Overyohead in there somewhere too ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWfsDdQ6cwg
Simon
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.dummymag.com/lists/2012/08/24/the-10-best-theo-parrish-touched-tracks-according-to-lawrence/
thoughts
Just received the CRC vs. Myon Strings Harmonies E.P from Juno. I
recommend giving this one a listen all 3 tracks have a deep vibe.
Simon
Very nice, I love this sound. I'd missed Sketches Of My Life just putting
an order in for it now - thanks. I loved the Journeys To The Deep 12 it
builds the mood so well.
I used it in a mix I did recently
http://soundcloud.com/smp-2/simon-pascoe-spectra (it's not all soulful
techno though I'm
Hi Andy,
Sorry I think I may have cleaned Juno out of their last copy - blame
the 313 list ;-)
Boomkat have got it though, best be quick :-)
http://boomkat.com/vinyl/373858-ever-vivid-sketches-of-my-life
Always looking out for more sounds like this.
Simon
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Andy
Hi Andy,
Sorry I think I may have cleaned Juno out of their last copy - blame the
313 list ;-)
Boomkat have got it though, best be quick
http://boomkat.com/vinyl/373858-ever-vivid-sketches-of-my-life
Thanks for the positive feedback.
Simon
On 12/03/2012 16:48, Andy Green wrote:
hi Simon
Even more fascinating, I can't think of any analogous dance culture
amongst white people.
Well, there's the Melbourne shuffle, but the moves aren't a patch on the
Chicago stuff, and it's best to watch with the sound off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAatCB4KCwfeature=related
Hi
I've written a script to read 313, take links to mp3s and make it in to
a podcast.
http://feeds.feedburner.com/313
Slap it in to itunes to save yourself manually downloading all those mixes.
Mainly did this for my own use but I hope it's useful to everyone on the
list.
Thanks
Simon
script works ;)
--
Simon Swain
Obscure - Dance Music in New Zealand
www.obscure.co.nz
www.psurkit.net
m +61 418 30 20 20
the next few years ;-)
Simon
/print
An extensive audio interview and musical retrospective:
http://angie.datavibe.net/madmikeWDET/
DJ Skurge mixing on Dave Clarke's White Noise show:
http://s-ence.net/02-dj_skurge_-_white_noise-cable-03-15-2008-talion.mp3
http://obscure.co.nz/
--
Simon Swain
Obscure - Dance Music in New
Hi I know this isn't a production list, but I was wondering what 313'ers would
pick as a reference track for tuning a sound system, studio, and comparing
their own mix balance against? What do you think the ideal techno reference
track is?
S
Simon Swain
http://Obscure.co.nz
+61 418 30 20 20
Yeah I was going to try to make say an 8 track cd to use. Wanted to get some
different inputs
What you say is the idea though, that and to A/B my own tracks with.
S
Simon Swain
http://Obscure.co.nz
+61 418 30 20 20
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 02 May
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Simon Swain
Obscure - Dance Culture in New Zealand
www.obscure.co.nz
p +61 2 9460 3311
m +61 418 30 20 20
Doesn't the 32 have the gains on the back so you literally have to blindly
reach behind the mixer? Completely impractical.
For fast and aggressive EQing and x/channel fading the Pioneer is far more
sturdy than AH I find. For smooth, delicate mixing the 62 wins hands down.
This is comparing a 600
Pls ignore (thanks Kent!)
S
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Simon Swain
Obscure
www.obscure.co.nz
m +61 418 30 20 20
respect.
S
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Simon Swain
Obscure
www.obscure.co.nz
m +61 418 30 20 20
Y'know, the forthcoming convextion 2x12 on matrix...
I've had this bad boy (or girl) on preorder for ages, and the release
date keeps slipping... it seems that a few people on here are probably
more in the know on what's happening with this than my record store
is,
so I wonder if somebody would
Another vote here for the Dan Bell mixes; both really good.
I also loved Akufen's Fabric mix, don't mind the new Cassy mix at all
and I heard one of the Sound Signature mix CDs which is amazing.
An older mix I really like is the Bentley Rhythm Ace edition of the
FSUK series. Crazy stuff, totally
Amazon.co.uk are quoting this cd as being released on 12th February
for £15.99, so maybe it's getting a wider release everywhere.
Yes. I haven't heard it on anything but my headphones, it sounds OK.
Sort of ravey. I quite like the vocal but some people can't stand it.
It's alright, it has some nice sounds in it but I don't think it's that
special. Has anybody heard it out? Is it actually mind-melting?
Cyclone Wehner
Hello folk
I'm at the Academy now, it's bloody brilliant. There are daily updates
to http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/ and I'm also keeping a blog at
http://blogs.inthemix.com.au/simonfromuk - photos will come soon.
On a 313 note, we have Todd Osborne and Mark Pritchard here for the full
time
If I was in NYC I'd be heading to Deep Space. Check out the website
http://www.deepspacenyc.com/
Cielo looks like the most beautiful-looking club in the world! Has anyone
actually been there? Their weekend nights seem a little arduous and I'm sure
the crowd is probably quite chi-chi, but boy
Seconded.
I also like all the extra goodies they throw in the box - flyers,
stickers, scrunched up pages from detroit newspapers for packing. Very
nice touches.
Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/09/2006 11:04 am
Yes, I've heard that Submerge has a direct connection with Mars :)
This is a good
What's all the fuss about playing this thing? Scroll down til you see Bleep
43 Presents Convexion, Plant 43 + Toby Firth and click that link. Make sure
you allow popups as the player appears in a new window. Too easy.
-Original Message-
From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm using Firefox - it works fine.
Maybe you need Realplayer or even Flash installed as well?
-Original Message-
From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 September 2006 18:46
To: Simon; 'Stoddard,Kamal'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Convextion @ Samurai
So I've just ordered a bunch of stuff from the sound signature represses
and blow me away if Solitary Flight doesn't sample the Blade Runner
soundtrack (actually I think it might be the New American Orchestra
version). Excuse me if I'm very late on the boat (or spinner) on this
one, which I think
is the New American Orchestra one?
On 25/08/2006, at 4:42 PM, Simon Hindle wrote:
So I've just ordered a bunch of stuff from the sound signature
represses
and blow me away if Solitary Flight doesn't sample the Blade Runner
soundtrack (actually I think it might be the New American Orchestra
He is also Timo Mass' production partner (responsible for that mix of
Azzido Da Bass' Dooms night a few years ago that blew the f*ck up),
and is also Production partner for all the current super hits on M_nus
etc that bear Locodice's name.
Does anyone else think that there is something a bit odd
FXHE
Mule
Ai
Logistic (sometimes)
Echocord
And also the netlabel Thinner (www.thinner.cc)
The new Styrax Leaves by redshape is great! Loving it.
J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2006 12:41:02 pm
also down low music. hi. convextion 2x12 album will be out around november
-Original Message-
Congratulations Simon! Any clue as to who the guest teachers/speakers
are
going to be?
MEK
Joost P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/25/2006 04:18:27 AM:
List member Simon got into the Red Bull Music Academy that's being
held in Melbourne this year. A fantastic opportunity!
I didn't get in myself
He recently put out a 12 on Klang under the alias Raudive. The A-side
is bloody brilliant stuff. Discogs tells me there's a new Raudive out as
well. Hurrah!
Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/2006 13:30
What happened to Oliver Ho? I personally prefer his work to
Surgeon's... an original.
It's RJ Valeo who made this. If you go to his website you can download
the ep in MP3 format. It's pretty good stuff.
theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/06/2006 7:08 am
Nice, dub-edged techno here. Not sure from which corner this emerged,
but I'm game for more. Supposedly this is from some
Phowar... talk about saving the best till last!
C2 and Basic Channel on duties this time - only heard the clips on the basic
channel website but it seems like they might have saved the series...
of course, does this mean that they're going to do the whole series? There are
a couple left to go
We just had Modeselektor play for us here in Sydney and they were really bloody
good. They've been playing live for AGES now and are really tight. They put on
a great show, and their sound is just so fkin HUGE!
It's not straight-up tech, more along that electronic dancehall/junglist sound
Yup, this weekend seems to be the bomb time to be in Berlin - a friend is over
there at the moment. Theo on Friday, Weatherall on Saturday and Rhythm Sound
+ Tikiman live on Sunday.
Damn!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 19/05/2006 6:45 am
hey B...
you can get Theo Parrish there this weekend in Berlin.
PS a 'friend' told me that an mp3 of the cc mix of revilee has been leaked and
is making its way round soulseek, whatever that is.
(minus Tim Sweeney getting all orgasmic at the breakdown as well)
:P
But you see this is what's so good about the death of vinyl...
these days when purchasing MP3s you just buy the mixes/tracks you like. It's
great!
Records are lame anyway.
*ducks*
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/05/2006 07:59
On 5/11/06, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yeah and of
Hello everyone - a bit of spam for you all.
MODESELEKTOR are playing in Australia this weekend as part of their world tour
which will see them jet off to North America next for DEMF and Mutek amongst
others.
But before then they're playing in Melbourne tonight at the Mercat, details at
to the Festival and remind everyone
having issues with the event, that some of us are still struggling to hear
any sort of Techno once a year.
DEMF does bring global attention. We are listening out here on the edge.
.simon
Delia Gavin mix is great! I think the reason sweeney talks across it is so
that people can't edit it and play it out ahead of its release.
And I was always under the impression that tres demented used a 606, not an
808. Those toms are a bit of a giveaway.
Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The totally wicked http://www.discopia.com/ has some good stuff about cosmic:
Daniele Baldelli interviewed by Danny Wang:
http://www.discopia.com/portal/issues/issue3/baldelli
Story about Cosmic and the sound:
http://www.discopia.com/portal/issues/issue7/cosmic
Get on to Discopia if you
again.
I'm not in the music business . but it seems to me all bets are off
and the last one left standing will be downloading.
.simon
on a Radio Station ' except
the
Internet is different and highly undefined
Is it streaming vs downloading ?! Any input appreciated ..
.simon
http://obscure.co.nz/profiles/steronasties
Hell yeah! I love that raudive release. There's another oliver ho out at the
moment that's really good as well.
Ryan Crosson is from detroit and has had a couple of promising releases. Check
out the new galoppierende zuversicht on bruchstuecke as well!
fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/04/2006 1:26 am
getting jammed with dirt / grit / ash ..
Beyond that I have bounced them on the road, poured liquid through
them with out much of an issue ' other than cleaning and gaffer tape.
And at the end of the day ' all you want it to do is work when you need it.
.simon
I saw Stewart Walker a couple of months ago and he was basically using ableton
and one of those doepfer pocket faderboxes running into a DJM600, nothing else.
Seeing Monolake live using ableton was quite impressive - after all he
basically designed the software for himself to use. He played a
Hmmm, it's a funny one really. My flatmate bought a final scratch recently and
I must say that while beforehand I was quite ambivalent towards a 'scratch'
solution that now I'm seriously considering buying a FS unit. There is
something quite nice about being able to use turntables as the
Its good ' it free .. and its breathing new life into the stuffy
anorak worlds of electronic music.
Show notes, Web links and track list below.
Aroha
.simon
Original Message
Speakeasy 0X3
http://psurkit.net/show/speakeasy_0X3.php
Consider ' the collaboration
Its good ' it free .. and its breathing new life into the stuffy
anorak worlds of electronic music.
Show notes, Web links and track list below.
Aroha
.simon
Original Message
Speakeasy 0X3
http://psurkit.net/show/speakeasy_0X3.php
Consider ' the collaboration
Here are my faves:
http://www.discogs.com/release/101347 Pleite - Pleite (this is Donnacha
Costello)
http://www.discogs.com/release/158405 Jeff Samuel - Knob (Remixes) (Steve Bug
mix is lovely)
http://www.discogs.com/release/249792 Riley Reinhold Steve Barnes - Mondrian
just gaffer tape stuck to my shoes
.simon
Hey .
Does anyone have the expired clips of the Mills interviews
from the Uncivilized World . site ..
Or know where to get them .. ?!
Also ' if they are around in a format other than WMA '
cheers
.simon
space . similar
cuts from instabil.org
Oh . and . oh . and .. I guess just listen to the sounds ' pick up
the vibe you like and follow the links ..
It's not so lonely on the net ' really ..
.simon
..
Speakeasy OX2
http://psurkit.net/show/speakeasy_0X2.php
:: Visit
www.kyoto
Check out 12AM Maternal at http://12ammaternal.blogspot.com/ - good collection
of cosmic stuff there, lots of weird vintage stuff as well.
Slight segue - does anybody else have any mp3 blogs that they enjoy?
I have to admit to taking some guilty pleasure in recent Lindstrom
and co tracks:
Carl's remix of Theo has all of Berlin going crazy. I read an interview with
Andy Vaz of background records saying that Beatdown was all the rage over there
now.
So what are the best beatdown tracks?
And does anyone else like the stuff that's been coming out on Philpot records?
Does that
can't
recall now. like, beatdown trance? ;)
c*
p.s.: simon, i don't know if it's beatdown what philpot are releasing,
but if you mean that it has a similar vibe to some of theo parrish's or
kdj's stuff: definitely yes! the german label running back and the
stuff from dan electro (from france
on this techno belief.
..
da . it's an awful lot that you expect from one record these days ..
but ' i never accepted the word seminal until I grew up ..
..
break out the love ' and let the bass shine through
.simon
break out the love ' and let the bass shine through
.simon
My take would be that these downtempo dubby songs are
the perfect warmup for moving into uptempo warm dubby things,
detroit techno, etc. Many people associate techno with
bang-bang-bang-bang,
but this would be a perfect
.. Recloose is almost local now .. living up in Wellington
and Fat Freddys Drop . could almost be considered Techno having
played in Detroit two festivals ago ..
on the production front .. Simon Flower from Nurture Recordings
is keeping things alive ..
Most of the scene is based around
How's about this
Richie Hawtin:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2449/282lk4iw.jpg
and Wheels from Degrassi
http://www.tvsizzle.com/degrassi_files/wheels_main.jpg
seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/02/2006 8:08:42 am
- Original Message -
From: Matt Kane's Brain
richie hawtin
haven't taken the time to checked some out I would
highly recommend it .. your bandwidth doesn't suffer to badly
if you start in the right places.
South America seems to be quite a hotbed of electronic ideas,
catching up fast to the German ethics of minimal col!
.simon
Just listened to the MOS 2006 annual ..
lets just say .. going back to the oldschool takes on a new meaning
Heaven 17 is all good .. when a really don't mind remembering how
long this has all been going on for ..
but keeping with whats really going on ..
managed to put together a new
, or the weekend .. its about
a way of life, or process of exploration into your environment ..
its living in the future . with hope .. not dispare ..
//
bah . so thanks .. wildteck . for pulling that out .. waking up my brain ..
making connections into the past to save our future ..
.simon
I don't mind it really - I like the concept, and the total package is great
given the price.
My actual favourite bit is the DVD footage of him playing at the festival in
germany at stupid o'clock in the morning. The visuals are mind-meltingly good
and the music is lots of fun.
The main mix
I was talking to a friend recently who told me that back in the day, Richie
Hawtin threw/played at a party that was held in a giant trash compactor a la
Star Wars, and that as the night progressed the walls got closer and closer.
Is there any truth to this story? Does anyone know any more about
Hey hey
anybody got contact details for Maurice Fulton?
Ta
Si
You guys also should know that the latest episode of Beats In Space
(www.beatsinspace.net) has a mix from the man himself on it.
And last week's show has a mix from Darshan Jesrani!
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/17/05 11:05 am
On Wed, November 16, 2005 8:58 pm, Gamall Backspin
Before ya'll start throwing names at me, let me first minimalize the possible
answers. I'm not really asking for those
strictly-techno-people-has-to-dance-to-this kinda live sets.
I'm actually thinking about Kirk Degiorgio for example. Does he do live acts???
Or Carl Craig (besides Tres
Hey all
I made a mix the other week, I though I'd share it with you seeing as how 313
list turned me on to quite a few of the tracks on it. It's pretty deep $hit.
http://www.highjinks.com.au/sunrise.htm
Tracklisting:
1: Plastikman - Digital/Divide
2: Carl Craig - Sandstorms
3: Memo -
on innovation and influence .. haven't you figured
out
that when any other style of dance music gets lost .. they listen to Techno
..
.. cut a loop and run with that for the next sixth months ..
ahahaha
.simon
Hey Quest
Your email address ain't working for me! Hit me up!
Luciano. It's amazing the stuff he makes given his tender age.
So we had Dan Bell come play in Sydney on Saturday night. It was f**kin awsome.
What was even more awesome was this though: the party had to close at 3:30,
just as Bell was kicking into top gear - I told the promoter about a friend's
birthday party that was still going on and would Dan
grrr... 313 don't fail me this time!
So we had Dan Bell come play in Sydney on Saturday night. It was f**kin awsome.
What was even more awesome was this though: the party had to close at 3:30,
just as Bell was kicking into top gear - I told the promoter about a friend's
birthday party that
I just listened to Play-ah Hate-ah by Terrence Parker (on Detroit After Dark)
and I think the same sounds/samples are used by Carl Craig on the More Songs
album. I don't have it near me (CC's album) so maybe someone could tell me
which track I'm thinking about...
Greetz from Brussels.
Excuse me, but I didn't understand what this book is about. I'm a bit slow,
y'know. Is it a book about music? And is it the same Simon Reynolds who wrote
Energy Flash in which he keeps going on and on and on and on and on about drugs
and drugs and hardcore and other bad music and drugs
It's his take on post-punk - PIL, Gang Of Four, Devo, Talking Heads etc - much
better than Energy Flash, less pretentious and much more thoughtful.
Mind you, I thought Reynolds was spot on about drugs and hardcore
I wouldn't say 'spot on'. He had a view and that view was open for discussion.
Don't let this line-up fool you. I Love Techno is one of the biggest, but also
the worst techno fetivals around. It's looks like there's much to hear but it
all sounds the same once you're there. Too many people, bad sound, no
creativity whatsoever,...
It used to be good, but not any more...
#1 is definitely worth checking out. Gilles Peterson opened one of his shows
with this a couple months ago and it blew me away. It starts out slow and after
a break there are these beats that are kinda leftfield. And near the end some
nice D-strings. Here a short sample:
Does everyone get the same page as me when they go to www.discogs.com???
GoDaddy.com??? Expired domain???
I'm scared.
Carl released it... on Just Another Day - http://www.discogs.com/release/332450
;-)
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 07:01:56PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
radio slave re-edit of 'darkness' available at piccadilly!
so is this a bootleg? if so, the bootlegger is actually releasing his
thing before
Info doesn't look 100% correct, as from that scan of the label it doesn't
look like it's a whitelabel ;)
I checked out the clips of this yesterday but didn't go for it as it didn't
grab me too much. How are you liking it?
Well, I like it a lot. Great stuff for the dancefloor. You don't hear
radio slave re-edit of 'darkness' available at piccadilly!
oh, naughty naughty.
I already have a copy. Sounds good to me. Nice one that will jumpstart any
upper class dancefloor ;-)
Already added it to discogs, but not sure if info is correct. Check it outtt -
Yeah, Canadian, very much flavour du jour at the moment. His music is
electro-inspired and quite sparse, his big 'hit' is Decompression on Minus. I'm
not really into much of his stuff; the only ones I really like are Followed By
Angels and Marionette, and an early release he had on Perlon
Nup, that was Michael Mayer. You are gloriously confused. Jonson's coming out
in November/December.
Anybody here know anything else about Dan Bell coming to Aus in October?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/05 4:47 pm
didn't he dj at club 77 about 6 months ago - i thought you went simon
Carl Craig played an absolute impressive set at the 'Pukkelpop' festival in
Belgium a week ago. I haven't heard a set like that in years! (you really don't
hear Detroit techno in Belgium - people are more into hard loops which is
really sad). Anyway, he played Jaguar by Rolando like he did
-
Från: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skickat: må 2005-08-29 11:10
Till: Simon Vrebos
Kopia: 313@hyperreal.org
Ämne: Re: (313) Carl Craig in Belgium (track ID)
On Monday, August 29, 2005, at 11:06AM, Simon
Alden Tyrell's latest on Clone is deadly.
Winter in Polarius on Creme is a v.cruisy release, though I dunno if Polarius
is dutch or not
Is this the next Petrol records release? I'd be pushing to get Random XS' Give
Your Body on there as well if it is - get the word out to the latte masses...
I'm listening to The Breezeblock show on BBC Radio 1 and I was wondering if
someone recognises this track around 02:16:30/03:00:01 played by DJ 3000.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/breezeblock/index.shtml?dp_rhn_block_pic
Greetz.
This is perhaps the best-known resource - heaps of mp3s.
http://evil-wire.org/~ampere/mp3/funky/
Enjoy!
Ian Malbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/08/05 2:09 pm
At some point (I think on this list) there was a link to some great
samples of hip hop coming out of the hills in Brazil. Electro-
tinged,
From a weblog belonging to a discogs.com subscriber, dated 2 July:
Dear Discogs User,
As you will have noticed, Discogs has been offline now since yesterday.
We experienced a cascade of problems with the servers yesterday that ended
with the whole site inaccessible to everyone including the
Hello,
I found this set of UR live at Fuse-In here -
http://www.hypnotyza.com/files/fuse-in2005/
While they were playing Millenium 2 Millenium, they start to freestyle on the
keyboard at about 30:45 and play a melody I recognize but don't know. Maybe you?
P.S.: Between 30:45 and 31:15
Thanx
There's been some hot tips on the good Kompakt gear so far - here are some
other Kompakt releases I like:
Thomas Fehlmann - Whistle (lovely floaty goodness that's just a masterpiece of
production)
Ferenc - Yes Sir, I can Hardcore (m.mayer remix is proper cheese-rave-tech)
Magnet - Rising Sun
Ok, I understand what y'all are saying. And I have to conclude that bootlegging
is not ok. But still, I don't regret buying the Virtual Sex bootleg. Because,
as I said: Carl Craig, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Pullen, Kirk Degiorgio and Derrick
May received money from me in the past and will receive
After Relics, The Beginning / Nite Da, Panic In Detroit and a few others,
'they' repressed the absolute classic Virtual Sex feat. Carl Craig, Kenny
Larkin, Stacey Pullen and Kirk Degriorgio among others.
A good thing? For me it is.
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