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People hated Microsoft in the 90s for this. I thought that is just what tech was supposed todo - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Google Apps is great but

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*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? I assumed he was talking about his Internet-over-fiber business. FB ads would be good for that because you can target small geographic areas and also you get the sharing with frien

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > All internet roads end in porn > > *From:* Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2016 6:24 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > What eventually

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Yeah, we do FB the heck out of the FTTH company. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? I assumed he was talking about his Internet-over-fiber business. FB ads would be good for that because you can target

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seem like a better approach. An Amazon store wouldn’t hurt. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 12:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Pay for clicks and then just use it for exposure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

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day, August 11, 2016 9:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? So... Google is going to do what WISP's have been doing for 20 years (before they were even called WISPs). That's hilarious. "Fiber! Fiber! Fiber! That is the answer to everything. We are

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hursday, August 11, 2016 9:50 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? So... Google is going to do what WISP's have been doing for 20 years (before they were even called WISPs). That's hila

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ed paying google and bing and my sales have gone way up. Go figure. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:50 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

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m/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, August 12, 2016 11:53:16 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > None of the kids (including millennials) are on

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McCown wrote: I wish you could teach me how to use FB for marketing. I finally stopped paying google and bing and my sales have gone way up. Go figure. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:

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riday, August 12, 2016 10:56:00 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Snapchat is no longer either a teen app nor its for nudes... like every app, it evolves ... If you guys are not keeping pace with the digital evolution... you turn into dinosaurs... On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at

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M Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? No, I don't. First of all, the billions of dollars are already there and have been flowing for decades. And those billions have never been tax money. This is not new money, it is changing how existing streams of money are flowing. And

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Yes it is, at least in the amount of tie it takes to pee department... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:06 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? I'm not sure it's so bad to be a dinosaur... On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Gino Villar

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e: >> >>> I wish you could teach me how to use FB for marketing. I finally >>> stopped paying google and bing and my sales have gone way up. Go figure. >>> >>> -Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson >>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:50 PM &

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>> I wish you could teach me how to use FB for marketing. I finally >>> stopped paying google and bing and my sales have gone way up. Go figure. >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson >>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:50 PM >>>

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o do >>>> whatever they set their minds to, keep in mind I have seen a lot from the >>>> inside. I like to equate them to a group of thirty somethings with ADD and >>>> too much money. They also seem to have the attitude that older folks are >>>> too far behind the times t

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;> -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson >> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:50 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> So... Google is going to do what WISP's have been doing for 20 years >> (before

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2, 2016 9:22 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > Was it this guy? > > *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2016 9:53 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > You s

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that. We are lucky no law suits resulted. But I do have permanent brain damage from it. *From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2016 9:22 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Was it this g

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. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 9:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Was it this guy? From: Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? You sure it was an accident

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f@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Maybe thats what it started out as but i know a ton of 30+year old people that use it. Actually know some people in their 50's that have it. I know one thing it is generating enough traffic to regis

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I thought the G was funding the moon X-prize? bp On 8/12/2016 7:49 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: And is besties with Page and Brin... maybe I have it wrong and spacex is google's spaceship..

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? You have a very small population to cater to... and most of them probably don't use FB. LOL Travis On 8/11/2016 11:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I wish you could teach me how to use FB for marketing. I finally stopped paying google and bing a

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igure. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? So... Google is going to do what WISP's have been doing for 20 years (before they were even called WISPs). That's hilarious. "

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company, bus line, truck line, airline, or telco, don't be a hater. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 6:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? They just need to generate enough revenue with Apps to keep their pri

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You sure it was an accident??? From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 6:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Mike, Have you ever used Snapchat? I mean for anything other than sending pics of genitals? lol. Its very addicting, almost like

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ally and are not real good at listening to fresh viewpoints and outside input. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [

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“Its very addicting, almost like facebook or worse.” That makes me want to use it even less than Mike’s description. From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 7:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Maybe thats what it started out as but i know a

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; company, electric company, bus line, truck line, airline, or telco, don't be > a hater. > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 6:16 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > They just

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s.wavel...@gmail.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 7:06:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Mike, Have you ever used Snapchat? I mean for anything other than sending pics of genitals? lol. Its very addicting, almost like facebook or worse. And th

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est-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From:

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of a high >>>>> capacity short hop last mile, but even then they will have >>>>> challenges with spectrum, interference and capacity. >>>>> >>>>> While we all would think Google is a great company with resources >>>>> to do wh

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Yes correct… 7 for 1 split back in 2014 …. :) > On Aug 11, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > That $107 was after several splits as well, right? > > > On Aug 11, 2016 6:02 PM, "Paul Stewart" > wrote: > Yup .. and I sold out after much debate….$808 a share

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afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel through the eye of a needle. -Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds Sent

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inal Message- From: Travis Johnson > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:50 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > So... Google is going to do what WISP's have been doing for 20 years > (before they were even called WISPs). That's h

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nk You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? They may have great RF eng

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You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? They may have great RF eng

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www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel thr

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On 8/11/16 8:50 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: "Fiber! Fiber! Fiber! That is the answer to everything. We are doing fiber everywhere!" "Fiber is expensive, and we can never get an ROI with that model... let's look at wireless." The Google Fiber model seemed to rely on cities bending over backwards

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listening to fresh viewpoints and outside input. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Googl

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put. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? They may have great

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ation. > Just because you did not achieve pioneers preference by starting a > railroad, gas company, electric company, bus line, truck line, airline, or > telco, don't be a hater. > > > > -Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds > > Sent: Thursday, August

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That $107 was after several splits as well, right? On Aug 11, 2016 6:02 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: > Yup .. and I sold out after much debate….$808 a share - originally bought > at $293 so I’m happy… Also sold out of Apple shares this week - bought in > at $1.03 (yup, back in 2002) and sold at $10

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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:17:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? CAF is a very new thing and USAC administers it. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwav

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: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? LECS in the US generally get pretty low interest loans. And with ROR regulation you are guaranteed that you can cover your costs. If your revenue is deficient then the pooled U

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CAF is a very new thing and USAC administers it. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? CAF? Until recently that was only opened to LECs, and the bar seemed very low for proving

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art > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:05 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > I hear the same thing in Canada all the time about the “taxpayers” funding > the ILEC’s …. yes, there has been subsidy and grants and other stuff over > th

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M Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? LECS in the US generally get pretty low interest loans. And with ROR regulation you are guaranteed that you can cover your costs. If your revenue is deficient then the pooled USF and long distance access charges are split up according to ne

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regulation there would only be good utilities in cities. -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? I hear the same thing in Canada all the time about the “taxpayers” funding the ILEC’s

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u did not achieve pioneers preference by starting a railroad, gas > company, electric company, bus line, truck line, airline, or telco, don't be > a hater. > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 6:16 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Su

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Yup .. and I sold out after much debate….$808 a share - originally bought at $293 so I’m happy… Also sold out of Apple shares this week - bought in at $1.03 (yup, back in 2002) and sold at $107 … really really happy about that return …. Not all my trades have this level of success but these defi

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-Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 6:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? They just need to generate enough revenue with Apps to keep their primary focus going. :) Wait, you're not in favor of them using their own pe

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On 8/11/16 17:30, Josh Reynolds wrote: "Shares of Google parent company Alphabet (GOOGL, Tech30) hit an all-time high Tuesday of more than $813 a share. The company is now worth $555 billion." "The company is still growing at a rate that would make most companies envious. Analysts are forecastin

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skill sets to be one. They are their own best cheerleaders >> and they have >> >> a dangerous habit of believing their own hype internally and are >> not real >> >> good at listening to fresh viewpoints and outside input. >>

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gt;> >> risky > >> >> to do a wired play if they cannot assure themselves of a huge take > rate > >> >> within the MDU. I see their wireless play as more of a high capacity > >> >> short > >> >> hop last mile,

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real good at listening to fresh viewpoints and outside input. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: R

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>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM >> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel through >> the eye

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t a utility infrastructure company and lack the people, tools >> and skill sets to be one. They are their own best cheerleaders and they have >> a dangerous habit of believing their own hype internally and are not real >> good at listening to fresh viewpoints and outside input. >> >

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Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel through the eye of a needle. -Original Message-

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ck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel through the eye of a needle. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11

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t; >> interference and capacity. >> >> >> >> While we all would think Google is a great company with resources to do >> >> whatever they set their minds to, keep in mind I have seen a lot from >> >> the >> >> inside. I like to equate them to a group

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with ADD > and > >> too much money. They also seem to have the attitude that older folks > are too > >> far behind the times to possibly know what they are talking about. > Google is > >> certainly not a utility infrastructure company and lack the people, > tools &g

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...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel through the eye of a needle. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sen

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s to be one. They are their own best cheerleaders and they have >> a dangerous habit of believing their own hype internally and are not real >> good at listening to fresh viewpoints and outside input. >> >> Thank You, >> Brian Webster >> www.wirelessmapping.com >>

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nd > outside input. > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > www.wirelessmapping.com > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > -Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM > To: af@

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- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel through the eye of a needle. -Original Message

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com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Partner companies do the construction phase and drops/splicing. I contract out the CPE/ONT and inside install for $50 an install. I also contract LinkTechs for larger scale mikrotik programming and c

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. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 8:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? what do you pay these contractors and for what work? On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Sterling

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yet ANOTHER cost item. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:21 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > > > You've already got the NIDs at al

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