Re: [Finale] Horn transpositions

2011-05-06 Thread Raymond Horton
Lower yes. Min 7 On May 6, 2011 3:18 PM, "Dean M. Estabrook" wrote: > Ok, Horn players I'm confused (not a new thing). I'm > transcribing a Mendelsshon overture for Wind Ensemble the > orchestra score lists the Horns as "Cor. in D". What is the concert > pitch for a given note in that p

Re: [Finale] Horn transpositions

2011-05-06 Thread Raymond Horton
Min 3rd down go F horn, that is On May 6, 2011 4:37 PM, "Raymond Horton" wrote: > Lower yes. Min 7 > On May 6, 2011 3:18 PM, "Dean M. Estabrook" wrote: >> Ok, Horn players I'm confused (not a new thing). I'm >> transcribing a Mendelsshon

Re: [Finale] Horn transpositions

2011-05-06 Thread Raymond Horton
Read it in alto clef On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: > You got it . > > > On May 6, 2011, at 7:17 PM, John Howell wrote: > > At 5:58 PM -0400 5/6/11, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >> >>> >>> That's how I learned to transpose back in 1967. I was copyist for Rutge

[Finale] Premiere

2011-05-06 Thread Raymond Horton
guess that makes me "Internationally acclaimed." Forgive the croos-post. Rare for me (the success, that is, not the breach of email etiquette). Raymond Horton ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: OT--low f's for altos?

2011-05-18 Thread Raymond Horton
I have noticed this in opera, where the tenor's full-voiced high C is a more rare commodity than is the soprano's. I think Mark's estimate of a ninth difference is about right, on average. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (I

Re: [Finale] OT

2011-05-18 Thread Raymond Horton
s direct a match with euphonium. Euph/Tuba would be logical combo, although tuba is stronger than CBssn. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Dean M. Estabr

Re: [Finale] OT

2011-05-18 Thread Raymond Horton
John R. Howell writes: > Contrafagotto was very likely an instrument sounding an octave below pitch, > although it would take a bassoon history specialist to know for sure.  (Are > you there, ContraReed?!!!) Not a history project at all, John, the contrabassoon is very much still with us - presen

Re: [Finale] OT

2011-05-18 Thread Raymond Horton
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:17 PM, John Howell wrote: > Sorry I wasn't clear.  I was talking about Mendelssohn's orchestra, whether > in Leipzig or other places he might have been writing for.  I know Mozart > used contra, and I think Beethoven as well, but I don't know how widespread > their use w

Re: [Finale] Playback Problem after Pizzicato

2011-05-24 Thread Raymond Horton
xpressions themselves should work. They are tricky, though. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > Michael, > > After some furth

[Finale] Buy "Music Makes a City" and benefit Public Radio

2011-06-02 Thread Raymond Horton
Buy "Music Makes a City" on DVD and benefit Public Radio at the same time: <http://publicradiomarket.publicradio.org/email/?B004VETNAY> Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT ra

Re: [Finale] FinWin 2k11 - strange Hp rendition of ' (breath) sign

2011-06-16 Thread Raymond Horton
don't clear anything you want to keep; then select "midi data" and "articulations," then "OK." That will likely clear any playback problems, but you will have to re-enter the breath marks. If you want, Marcello, send me the problem file - tell me in what measures the problem occurs, and I will take a look at it. Raymond Horton Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] FinWin 2k11 - strange Hp rendition of ' (breath) sign

2011-06-17 Thread Raymond Horton
I suggest you send me one of the problem scores to check out. Raymond Horton On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Marcello Noia wrote: > Thanks a lot for your suggestions Raymond, I will do as you wrote and > see what happens. > Anyway, this "kind of fermata" problem got ou

Re: [Finale] Need advice on writing for brass band

2011-06-26 Thread Raymond Horton
tion Army vibrato with no attack but that tasteful British playing - you know - what _I_ like), many American brass bands now get a sound pretty much identical to a brass choir with trumpets and French horns. Not a bad thing, just, not so different any more. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisvi

Re: [Finale] Need advice on writing for brass band

2011-06-29 Thread Raymond Horton
f) and maybe euphs (I'm not really sure about the baritones - check the stores which sell brass band music and see, maybe they include BC baritones also). I suppose a sensible option would be to sell a separate "TC pack." If only arranging for one band - ask the conductor, or, bett

Re: [Finale] Need advice on writing for brass band

2011-06-29 Thread Raymond Horton
many of them do. I heard the Brass Band of Columbus (OH) years ago, and they had a very fine tuba section, very focused sound - but I do not recall what instruments they were playing, if I tell from where I was sitting. I know they were regarded as one of the the best in the US at the time. Raymond

Re: [Finale] Need advice on writing for brass band

2011-07-01 Thread Raymond Horton
lutely top notch Schiller (Jin Bao - Chinese) compensating British baritone for well under $600. A copy of the $5K Besson. I love it - true baritone sound, stellar intonation. Jim Laabs in Wisconsin sells them. All relative economy discussions aside, a tremendous deal for a very good instrument

Re: [Finale] non-standard key signatures

2011-08-08 Thread Raymond Horton
This performer hates them On Aug 8, 2011 1:52 PM, "Adam Taylor" wrote: > I'm wondering what a performer's opinion is on non-standard key > signatures, for example, one containing B-flat, E-flat, F-sharp and > C-sharp. The first movement of my second string quartet uses these four > accidentals an

Re: [Finale] Music OCR

2011-08-19 Thread Raymond Horton
scanned, and put out new digitized versions quickly. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com > > On 18 Aug 2011, at 18:30, Greg Scheer wrote: > > > >> One of my jobs is with

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread Raymond Horton
Vibes and motor, all true, but in serious music vibes are assumed to have the motor off unless specified on. Raymond Horton On 3 Sep 2011, at 19:14, John Howell wrote: > > > At 10:43 AM -0700 9/3/11, Blake Richardson wrote: > >> > >> I didn't even know the in

Re: [Finale] Finale 2k1 and XP?

2011-09-04 Thread Raymond Horton
I use 2011 with XP On Sep 4, 2011 3:18 PM, "Johannes Gebauer" wrote: > Can someone confirm that Finale 2k1 works with WinXP? > > Thanks, > Johannes > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-14 Thread Raymond Horton
notational conventions, of which there are many. (Try reading the 2nd trombone part in most Shostakovitch symphonies symphonies - low tessitura, alto clef = leger lines below the staff.) No logic sometimes, just strange traditions, but the performer has to deal with it. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-14 Thread Raymond Horton
e clef, said that he found it distracting to try to write in it and said he would have to write the tenor part initially in the traditional tenor clef and change it later. (I am paraphrasing after reading this in 1975, but I think I have it for the most part). Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisvill

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-16 Thread Raymond Horton
clefs you want, sell to whomever buys, have a grand old time. If you sell more than the big publishers, then maybe they will change, and then others can start complaining. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US A

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-16 Thread Raymond Horton
tenor section made up of real tenors and a couple of women who never came to terms with their head voice. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Steve Parker

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-16 Thread Raymond Horton
er serious works) and trouble will ensue. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: > I agree with you Raymond we ought to be able t

Re: [Finale] orchestration, clefs, etc. (was Clefs for Tenors in Choir)

2011-09-16 Thread Raymond Horton
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:38 PM, John Howell wrote: > Bagpipes?  Well, there's a place for them and > their music, preferably not too close by! > It's a classic: Q. Why do bagpipers walk when they play? A. They're trying to get away from the noise. Raymond Horton (who

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-16 Thread Raymond Horton
ponding contrabass instruments in woodwinds and strings) both sound 8ba, but no one ever said life would be consistent. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com

Re: [Finale] onward -two remaining questions

2011-09-25 Thread Raymond Horton
Mine do - on windows On Sep 25, 2011 7:53 AM, "Frank Prain" wrote: > I've noticed on my setup that I need to use the separate number pad for note > lengths in Speedy - the numbers on the main part of the keyboard don't work > in this context. > > And, as mentioned above, remember the NumLock. > >

Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Review

2011-10-07 Thread Raymond Horton
Thanks, Jari! Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Jari Williamsson < jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote: > Hello! > > My Finale 20

Re: [Finale] OT: Troms X 4

2007-04-02 Thread Raymond Horton
Hop on over to List Trombone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and you will get plenty of advice on quartets there, Keith. Gearhart, Cassel, And Hornibrook, _Bass Clef Sessions_ Shawnee (pub) is still available. I have a copy - it's great fun. There are many quartets available at cimarronmusic.com

Re: [Finale] O.T. Joshua Bell at L'Enfant Plaza

2007-04-10 Thread Raymond Horton
she was doing to me. D. C. is a different place, for a different kind of people. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist Louisville Orchestra David W. Fenton wrote: ... You've made the choice to work for someone who allows no flexibility. ... __

Re: [Finale] O.T. Joshua Bell at L'Enfant Plaza

2007-04-10 Thread Raymond Horton
Randolph Peters wrote: Raymond Horton wrote: [snip] I have a sister who has worked, high up, for the government in the D.C area for many years. She wouldn't have seen OR heard Josh Bell. I tried to play a recording of a piece of mine for her, and after 3 minutes she was talking to so

Re: [Finale] O.T. Joshua Bell at L'Enfant Plaza

2007-04-10 Thread Raymond Horton
d performance, any time. It was a bad time for Bell to play, but again, at least some of those people had the time to listen. It's only logical. Raymond Horton ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] O.T. Joshua Bell at L'Enfant Plaza

2007-04-11 Thread Raymond Horton
aying that there are good explanations why a great many people ignored him. We think it is quite odd that virtually _all_ the people ignored him. Raymond Horton ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] O.T. Joshua Bell at L'Enfant Plaza

2007-04-12 Thread Raymond Horton
dhbailey wrote: Didn't you say that you refuse to buy and iPod because you don't want music to be a passive listening experience? For people who don't want to hear it, music is indeed as much an obnoxious assault as those squeegee kids (or their older counterparts). Think of the assault on

Re: [Finale] O.T. Joshua Bell at L'Enfant Plaza

2007-04-12 Thread Raymond Horton
David W. Fenton wrote: Unfortunately, I was late for rehearsal and couldn't stop and enjoy! Gotcha! RH ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: Tape for parts

2007-04-22 Thread Raymond Horton
The web page say "acid-free." RBH Aaron Sherber wrote: At 02:44 PM 4/22/2007, Christopher Smith wrote: >Is the acid-free white paper tape that makes an excellent hinge and >doesn't yellow or fall off with age? I don't think this tape is acid-free, but it does make an excellent hinge and hasn

Re: [Finale] Re: Tape for parts

2007-04-23 Thread Raymond Horton
Oh. Well, then, forget I said anything. [Sulk mode ON.] RBH Aaron Sherber wrote: At 04:46 PM 4/22/2007, Raymond Horton wrote: >The web page say "acid-free." Now we're talking in circles. We were originally talking about 3M #256 tape, which I recommended and which Ni

Re: [Finale] printer frustration - Ricoh AP2610

2007-05-02 Thread Raymond Horton
printing etter size Finale files two-up on 11 x 17 paper on Vista on this printer? Anything you can tell me? Thanks, Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, occasional arranger and composer Louisville Orchestra ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://li

Re: [Finale] Conducting in 12/8

2007-05-04 Thread Raymond Horton
5/4 and 7/4 giving pros problems in the US? Man, in the LO we drink the 5/8s and 7/16s like mother's milk - we've been playing that stuff since our first day in the band. You've just got a grouchy bunch of pros! Ray Horton Bass Trombone, Louisville Orchestra Aaron Rabushka wrote: Sout

Re: [Finale] OT: too much notating; was: Hyphenating text underlay

2007-05-07 Thread Raymond Horton
ormer in an orchestra that has played a ton of new music written under all the different rules.) Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: Can you spot the fake?

2007-05-07 Thread Raymond Horton
same room alternating with live musicians, _who are playing with no electronic amplification_. That is the only test would mean anything. Raymond Horton Christopher Smith wrote: On 6-May-07, at 6:51 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: the differences would be even more evident at

Re: [Finale] OT: Can you spot the fake?

2007-05-07 Thread Raymond Horton
dhbailey wrote: Raymond Horton wrote: I don't see the fuss. A guy is trying to prove he can replace _live_ musicians, but does so by posting _recordings_, some of which are so badly reproduced they could never be mistaken for live players, even though the recordings were once made from

Re: [Finale] OT: Sound reinforcement (was Can you spot the fake?)

2007-05-09 Thread Raymond Horton
phony job. You just put up a bunch of mics, turn 'em on, and it sounds like a symphony!" How can you argue with logic like that? Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist Louisville Orchestra ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: Sound reinforcement (was Can you spot the fake?)

2007-05-09 Thread Raymond Horton
Christopher Smith wrote: On May 9, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: Once, many years ago, a rock sound guy (perhaps not the tightest cable tie in the bunch, if you get my drift) was setting up mics for a pops concert of ours. I mentioned to him how we had a problem at the

Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread Raymond Horton
st in high school. It's much less effective with only piano). Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist Louisville Orchestra dhbailey wrote: Is that really *entirely* in octaves or unisons? The orchestra is only playing octaves/unisons? David H. Bailey Aaron Rabushka wrote: One of the basso ar

Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread Raymond Horton
g any others as sparse as this one - I would imagine most have some other texture going on, even if the voice is doubling the bass. Just my 1 cent worth. RBH Raymond Horton wrote: The Aria is "The People the Walked in Darkness," in part one of _Messiah_. It is mostly octaves, wit

Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics

2007-05-19 Thread Raymond Horton
"Blank Page" is good enough, IMHO. Quicker to read. The arrow is good, also. Or the obvious - plan the pages so you don't need the blank page, but the blank is much better than a bad turn. I use graphics sometimes. Don't know the solution to this problem, so I hadn't weighed in. I have a

Re: [Finale] OT: Cage, Conventionalism, et al

2007-05-25 Thread Raymond Horton
th all that she did that year, she was so successful that our MD at the time got jealous, gave her very little to do the next year, so in frustration she got another gig. And of course, we never played Ives for high school kids again, because nobody in charge was paying attention. Raym

Re: [Finale] Kilt construction.

2007-05-25 Thread Raymond Horton
Guy Hayden wrote: My kilt is made of just about 7 years of fabric. We all admire your dedication, Guy! RBH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: John Cage's first national TV appearance (1960)

2007-05-25 Thread Raymond Horton
I felt like saying nearly the same words to Andrew, also, but I appreciated reading his post, because he makes such good arguments - including that excellent Louvre guard line which I had not heard before. RBH Darcy James Argue wrote: Andrew, Why are you wasting your time? Of course Phil

Re: [Finale] OT: John Cage's first national TV appearance (1960)

2007-05-26 Thread Raymond Horton
I got the humor, if it's any consolation, Randolph. RBH Randolph Peters wrote: > Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: Sure, I like Bach; I marvel especially at his contrapuntal creativity; I enjoy the sound of his music. Andrew Stiller wrote: Me, I like his grinding dissonances! dhbai

Re: [Finale] very OT: Orchestras by Howell

2007-05-28 Thread Raymond Horton
Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: ...a very intriguing claim of an 1818 (!) "first official resident symphony orchestra," founded by the Society of St Cecilia in Louisville, KY (Ray Horton - any knowledge of that group?) Just how old do you think I am? I'll be here all week, folks. Don'

Re: [Finale] errors in instrument.txt and ensembles.txt now trumpets

2007-06-06 Thread Raymond Horton
t, on occasion. Of course, they call the Eb horn the "tenor" and Americans call it an "alto horn." Any reasonable look at the range would say the Brits are closer. Raymond Horton Bass Trombone (the difference here is timbre more so than range) Louisville Orchestra John

Re: [Finale] errors in instrument.txt and ensembles.txt

2007-06-06 Thread Raymond Horton
We have a real collector in our orchestra. Only guy I know to have a D clarinet, a C clarinet, a basset horn, a great bass clarinet with a low C, etc., etc.. He wants to be able to play anything on the instrument for which it was written. I forget if he said he has a clarinet in every key,

Re: [Finale] playback using MIDI and GPO?

2007-06-06 Thread Raymond Horton
Marilyn, Uhh, I believe I've done this by accident before. Sometimes in the middle of a heavy GPO project I'll need to do some quick print-only project. I'll switch the first "device" under "Midi Setup" to softsynth, since that is easier to work with on a quick project in which playback is

Re: [Finale] errors in instrument.txt and ensembles.txt

2007-06-06 Thread Raymond Horton
Turkish music. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrammelmusik and associated links... Cheers Jim Raymond Horton: He wants to be able to play anything on the instrument for which it was written. I forget if he said he has a clarinet in every key, or is lacking something in G. (Is there

Re: [Finale] errors in instrument.txt and ensembles.txt now trumpets

2007-06-06 Thread Raymond Horton
What's the question, Aaron? That the instrument is called bass trumpet? Yes the low Bb and C instrument is always called bass. I and many others have merely observed that it would more logically be called tenor. The Janacek Sinfonietta bass trumpet part (2 in unison) is unusually low.

Re: [Finale] playback using MIDI and GPO?

2007-06-06 Thread Raymond Horton
OK... the subject line said GPO. Darcy James Argue wrote: This only works if you are using Garritan Studio, instead of using AU/VST playback. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 06 Jun 2007, at 11:17 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: Marilyn, Uhh, I believe I've done

Re: [Finale] errors in instrument.txt and ensembles.txt now OT clarinets

2007-06-07 Thread Raymond Horton
Andrew Stiller wrote: In addition to the ones you mentioned (by "great bass" I assume you meant the contra-alto) No, I meant he had an excellent bass clarinet with a low C. Sorry for the confusing choice of a word. I don't mean to say he has every clarinet ever made. I think he has tri

Re: [Finale] errors in instrument.txt and ensembles.txt now trumpets

2007-06-07 Thread Raymond Horton
So we need to send for the calvary when the Rite comes up? Interesting theory. I remember the low F's in Agon. I assumed Strav just kept all the parts in C for simplicity, but knew the third player would play the part on a Bb, which is what happens in performance. Ravel (I remember the lick

Re: [Finale] errors in instrument.txt and ensembles.txt now OT clarinets

2007-06-07 Thread Raymond Horton
John Howell wrote: >Better? [alto clarinet vs basset horn] Or just different? And of course the matter of low range, although the extension to low C >would take care of that. I suspect that very few band directors assign their best players to alto clarinets, and like every member >of the

Re: [Finale] errors in instrument.txt and ensembles.txt now trumpets

2007-06-07 Thread Raymond Horton
John Howell wrote: What makes things interesting is that instruments have evolved since a century ago, let alone a century and a half. Verdi wrote for a bass brass instrument, knowing that his orchestras would use an Ophicleide. Today those parts would be played on a tuba, but I seem to r

Re: [Finale] errors in instrument.txt and ensembles.txt now OT trombones

2007-06-07 Thread Raymond Horton
ere is more to assigning these voice part names than just key. Otherwise Urbie Green and I play the same instrument. Hey, I've got it! This low F trombone is about an octave below an alto trombone: Let's call it a "CONTRA-ALTO TROMBONE!" Raymond Horton Bass Tromboni

Re: [Finale] errors in instrument.txt and ensembles.txt now OT trombones

2007-06-08 Thread Raymond Horton
Andrew Stiller wrote: Thank you, Ray for straightening this out so accurately. I had thrown up my hands at any attempt to clear the air on this one, but you have done so admirably. My one quibble: Before valves, in Germany a low F trombone was a "bass trombone" and was similar bore size to to

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced, now top 2007 bugs

2007-06-11 Thread Raymond Horton
I can't use 2007 at all. At any given time, at printing time, my full pages print as only a postage stamp size. Only solution at that point was to print as PDFs. It happened too often, with no warning. Once the stamps showed up, they printed on di

Re: [Finale] slurs attached to rests

2007-06-12 Thread Raymond Horton
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 12.06.2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If more than one note is involved before the rest you can slur to the last note, click on the slur, and re-shape it to reach to the rest. Yes, I know that is also possible, but such slurs behave differently when the layout is cha

[Finale] Multiple Pages printing

2007-06-12 Thread Raymond Horton
I ask for. Single copies print OK. I've restarted Finale and restarted the computer, same problem. This does not happen in any other application program. Thanks for any advice. Raymond Horton ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] slurs attached to rests

2007-06-12 Thread Raymond Horton
dhbailey wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a way of emphasizing carrying a phrase into the ensuing silence, as at the end of my bass trombone sonata. I've seen this notated with a tie from a note to the following rest, never as a slur which continues onto the rest following the final note

Re: [Finale] Help With Crazy Double Stops Re-Write

2007-06-13 Thread Raymond Horton
Seems like I'd start by adding a blank staff under each staff and exploding each staff onto two. Then you might be able to copy parts around to playable locations - you might want to use "scratch" staves, (temporary staves just for copying) also. Raymond Horton Leig

Re: [Finale] Multiple Pages printing and other printing problems w 2006c

2007-06-13 Thread Raymond Horton
dhbailey wrote: Raymond Horton wrote: This is a new one. FinWin 2006c. It has never showed up before. When I start Finale and print more than one copy of a file, lets say two copies, the first time Finale prints two copies. The next time I print two copies, it prints four copies, and

Re: [Finale] New Question

2007-06-21 Thread Raymond Horton
is a nearly full score (sometimes three trumpets on one line, explode them later, etc.). Raymond Horton Andrew Stiller wrote: I think that Beethoven and Mozart would have used Finale if it were available back in their day. This is definitely a generational issue. When I started using Final

Re: [Finale] Strange blatting sound

2007-07-02 Thread Raymond Horton
file. Raymond Horton Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: David, Good sequence of questions... At 06:51 AM 7/2/2007 -0400, dhbailey wrote: In your clip it sounds like an extra note is being played -- you don't have any hidden notes which might be there for spacing issues but not for displ

Re: [Finale] OT urgent pdf problems

2007-07-03 Thread Raymond Horton
reate with FinWin 2007 prints at postage stamp size, on either my laser or inkjet printer. My _solution_ (temporary) was to use CutePDF Writer to print to PDFs. My _solution_ (permanent) is to use Finale 2006. Finale 2007c did not correct the problem. Raym

Re: [Finale] OT urgent pdf problems

2007-07-03 Thread Raymond Horton
I'm the "someone," btw. You know, Aaron, today I checked those three places, didn't change anything as they were all letter size, and then printed a couple of Win2007c files: One from scratch (identical to one that printed tiny yesterday) and one medium-big project I did months ago that alway

[Finale] OT: 18th century trombones

2007-07-04 Thread Raymond Horton
nd have both done excellent work. I heard Ken give an excellent lecture several years ago summarizing much of this - he has done his homework. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist Louisville Orchestra ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th century trombones

2007-07-05 Thread Raymond Horton
irst part for these works. RBH Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jul 4, 2007, at 10:49 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: Andrew Stiller, a few weeks back I said some recent scholarship was heading toward alto, tenor and bass trombones all being in Bb in the 18th and 19th centuries. I intended to send y

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th - now 19th century trombones

2007-07-06 Thread Raymond Horton
- without looking: What kind of trombones did Dvorak write for? RBH Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jul 5, 2007, at 5:09 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: I was never aware of such 80's belief. Up until this recent scholarship, all I ever "knew" was that a trio of trombones: alto in Eb,

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th century trombones

2007-07-06 Thread Raymond Horton
John Howell wrote: I think that may depend heavily on who, exactly, you're talking about in the '80s. Symphony trombonists, and those training them, may indeed have thought in those terms, but it's a cinch that people in early music were not, since most of us are looking at baroque and clas

Re: [Finale] OT: Moravian trombone choir music - 18th century trombones

2007-07-06 Thread Raymond Horton
dhbailey wrote: John Howell wrote: [snip] I think that may depend heavily on who, exactly, you're talking about in the '80s. Symphony trombonists, and those training them, may indeed have thought in those terms, but it's a cinch that people in early music were not, since most of us are lookin

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th - now 19th century trombones

2007-07-06 Thread Raymond Horton
Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 11:39 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: The other interesting standard rep composer is Dvorak - quick - without looking: What kind of trombones did Dvorak write for? Didn't he write quite a bit for valve trombone? Or some kind of weird hybrid p

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th - now 19th century trombones

2007-07-07 Thread Raymond Horton
Given the amount of research Shifrin has done, together with the music of the Dvorak 8th symphony (quite nonidomatic for slide trombone) and other Dvorak excerpts, I'll accept it, at least until your paper comes out. (BTW, is the "slide trombone specialist ... named a permanent instructor"

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

2007-07-18 Thread Raymond Horton
otation program. Raymond Horton dhbailey wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 18 Jul 2007 at 12:01, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: The spacing on mine is still in draft mode, but yes, it is spaced by hand. All automatic features are turned off, and the work is being done in page mode with the measures pre-

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

2007-07-18 Thread Raymond Horton
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: On 7/18/07, Raymond Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm with David. If the Sibelius guy is trying to show that Sibelius can do it as well, then he should have done the whole page, and made it look as good. But he didn't. Not really close. It'

Re: [Finale] OT: choir+piano layout

2007-07-30 Thread Raymond Horton
only system is very clear on the page. Sometimes those systems get skipped in rehearsal (or even worse, performance!) Raymond Horton Minister of Music Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church (Sorry if part of this message repeats. Finale bounced back an earlier reply from a different e

Re: [Finale] printer frustration - Ricoh AP2610

2007-07-31 Thread Raymond Horton
ation to Daniel Boone? I have some relation on my mother's side to Rebecca Bryan Boone.) Raymond Bryan Horton (an old Kentucky boy) Dalvin Boone wrote: Raymond Horton wrote: Subject: Re: [Finale] printer frustration - Ricoh AP2610 Speaking of printer frustration, I'm having trou

Re: [Finale] Goodbye Finale - now a tunnel-vision Finale 2008 review

2007-08-04 Thread Raymond Horton
one please explain to me how this linked parts stuff works? Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist Occasional composer, arranger Louisville Orchestra dc wrote: Johannes Gebauer écrit: Well, it is partly the completely absurd situation Makemusic have put themselves into in the last few years. Every year

Re: [Finale] whatever works - (now music software memory lane)

2007-08-06 Thread Raymond Horton
Williams, Jim wrote: Anyone for Laser Music Processor Right here! Actually, I was using Personal Composer at the time, but my entrepreneur/brother-in-law looked at that for 30 seconds, decided it was too complicated, then came across LMP and became a dealer of it. I think I have 3 c

Re: [Finale] can't open online help

2007-08-06 Thread Raymond Horton
Thanks Harold. That works, although my IE won't let me bookmark it, saying "This URL is unsuitable for bookmarking..." But it is nice to see the F'ing Manual, I mean the Finale Manual, for all the new changes. RBH Harold Owen wrote: Dear Chuck, MakeMusic has owned up to the fact that t

Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] RE: [Finale] Fenton

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
What is your point? Paul Davies wrote: It's rabbits that get myxomatosis! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will Denayer Sent: 07 August 2007 16:53 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Fenton "What is your point?" What is it that I s

Re: [Finale] F___ you

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
tion. In a half a week it could all be forgotten.This is not a list for personal grudges, or many of us could be still waging them. Raymond Horton ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] F___ you

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
Thanks. I'm hoping we're done with this. RBH Bob Morabito wrote: Tue Aug 7 13:41:36 Raymond Horton wrote: Gee, Will. Please don't act like that, and don't go away. The rest of us were all on your side, but it was time to drop it. We put up with David, because h

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
spicious opportunity to be at least an unofficial member (unbeknownst to me) of the select group of chosen ones (the "all"), of which there are so far, officially, three. The rest of us were all on your side Raymond Horton Let's drop it ___

[Finale] [changing the subject quickly to see if anyone notices] Finale 2008 new feature - merging files

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
parts into one score, but I haven't tried that yet. Raymond Horton (speaking only for himself, and watching his language) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
ze for suggesting that we drop this. I think it will be much better if we keep this ridiculous thread going for a month or two. This is not sincere. Everybody happy now? RBH David W. Fenton wrote: On 7 Aug 2007 at 20:45, Raymond Horton wrote: Let's drop it Funny how when

Re: [Finale] Finale 2008 new feature - merging files

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
suppose staff names might be a consideration there, also. RBH Christopher Smith wrote: On Aug 7, 2007, at 8:58 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: Has anyone tried the new Merge function in 2008? I've been playing with it a bit with mixed success. I tried it one a large work

Re: [Finale] Finale Workshop

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
Horace Brock wrote: I was privileged this week to participate in what is planned as the first in a series of regional Finale workshops, run by MakeMusic. ... While I can certainly see the value of such an intensive workshop, and applaud MM for getting out among its customers, one questio

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
David Fenton wrote: And in exactly how many posts did I use profanity or masked profanity? The only one I remember is "Brahms is full of shit," but that was a couple of years ago, and directed at me. (Just trying to help!) Ray Horton ___ Final

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
Bob posted that excellent guide to importing midi files last week, just after joining the list, actually. I found it quite helpful, although I can't speak for anyone else . Raymond Horton Eric Dannewitz wrote: God, what a twit. You HAVE to get the last word in. I haven't att

Re: [Finale] Finale 2008 new feature - merging files

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
. Great time saver. Thanks for the help with the new feature. RBH Christopher Smith wrote: On Aug 7, 2007, at 8:58 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: Has anyone tried the new Merge function in 2008? I've been playing with it a bit with mixed success. I tried it one a large work with

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