[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Leonard Williams
[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string Wim- No clue as to cause of the breakage until you supply essential information: 1. String length- nut to bridge? 2. A= ? 440, 415, 465, 392 - other? While stronger than equivalent gut, nylgut (especially the 1st generation, dead white stuff) is

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 19/02/2018 17:53, Dan Winheld wrote: While stronger than equivalent gut, nylgut (especially the 1st generation, dead white stuff) is much more delicate than equivalent tension nylon or KF. The later, more yellow New Nylgut is stronger but still nowhere near as tough as the other synthetics

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Dan Winheld
Wim- No clue as to cause of the breakage until you supply essential information: 1. String length- nut to bridge? 2. A= ? 440, 415, 465, 392 - other? While stronger than equivalent gut, nylgut (especially the 1st generation, dead white stuff) is much more delicate than equivalent tension

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Mimmo - Aquila Corde Armoniche
The problem of breackage of the thinner Nylgut strings was caused by some inner extruder parameters. The extrusion thecnology is very complex, so the problemi s not just related to the common knowledges in matter of breaking index etc . On this fyeld I am learning everyday something of new. I

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Matthew Daillie
I was presuming a pitch of 440 but Wim mentions neither pitch nor string length. > On Feb 19, 2018, at 11:22, Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> > wrote: > > A nylgut string of 0.44 on a lute of 60cmm string length at A415 To get on or off this list se

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
is not relevant (provided there are no significant irregularities in the string material) - a thicker string will simply need a greater force (ie Tension) to reach the breaking stress than a thinner. The stress will be the same on the thick string as on the thinner. A nylgut string of 0.44

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Matthew Daillie
You didn't mention the string length of your lute so we can't judge whether 0.44 is the right diameter or not (it would certainly be far too much for a 60 cm lute and would explain the snapping strings). Unfortunately breakage is a common problem with the current Nylgut top strings

[LUTE] Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-18 Thread Wim Loos
Dear luteplayers, Within a relative short periode, two times my g' (0.44mm nylgut) on a 7-c Renaissance lute has broken. Sounds this familliar to you? What do you suggest as an alternative. Wim Loos -- To get on or off this list see list information at http

[LUTE] 'Shiny' nylgut

2018-02-09 Thread Matthew Daillie
Does anyone have any of the small diameter shiny nylgut strings that Aquila produced in 2014 that they would be willing to sell? I am particularly interested in 0.38 and 0.44 gauge strings to put on my lute in a'. Please contact me off-list. Many thanks. Best, Matthew To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-10 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
ah! right thanks Jan. see you at Paris in April? Takin beer togheter Mimmo From: [1]jmpoirier2 Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 9:31 AM To: [2]Mimmo Peruffo ; [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: RE : [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain Dear Mimmo, No problem at all

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-10 Thread jmpoirier2
: Mimmo Peruffo <mperu...@aquilacorde.com> Date : 09/01/2017 6:33 PM (GMT+01:00) À : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain maybe it is better to give you guys a few more informations: yes, I am out of stock due to some problems: the fir

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread John Mardinly
From: Matthew Daillie Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 10:52 AM To: Mimmo Peruffo Cc: Rob MacKillop ; Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain One thing nobody seems to have mentioned is the vast differences in sustain from one instrume

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Dan Winheld
"...and my guess is that these strings may last forever.." While no doubt true, and good thing as well, ALL unfingered lute bass strings last virtually forever! My Baroque lute student has had the original (and unspeakably vile) metal overspun strings on his otherwise very fine 13

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
nthony Hind ; [4]Matthew Daillie ; [5]Mimmo Peruffo ; [6]Rob MacKillop ; [7]Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain and my guess is that these strings may last forever.. Bruno 2017-01-09 11:56 GMT-05:00 Dan Winheld <[8][2]dwinh..

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
; [6]Rob MacKillop ; [7]Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain and my guess is that these strings may last forever.. Bruno 2017-01-09 11:56 GMT-05:00 Dan Winheld <[8]dwinh...@lmi.net>: Fascinating thread! I am delighted that after over 40

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread David Morales
Dear all, We have some gauges still on stock, but they are running fast. You can also find everything on our store with 20% discount, so it's really a nice chance to try them. This is the website: [1]www.cuerdaspulsadas.com Mimmo is already part of the lute history, I dont have

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
David Morales' cuerdas Pulsadas in Spain, has them, David Morales who is on this lute list should be able to help you out. Mimmo is out of stock already. Bruno 2017-01-09 12:02 GMT-05:00 Bruno Cognyl-Fournier <[1]fournier...@gmail.com>: and my guess is that these strings

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
and my guess is that these strings may last forever.. Bruno 2017-01-09 11:56 GMT-05:00 Dan Winheld <[1]dwinh...@lmi.net>: Fascinating thread! I am delighted that after over 40 years in the lute "business" (even mostly amateur) that good bass strings may be emerging as an

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Dan Winheld
Fascinating thread! I am delighted that after over 40 years in the lute "business" (even mostly amateur) that good bass strings may be emerging as an obtainable, affordable, predictable, and PRACTICAL reality. Mimmo Peruffo is to be congratulated for all his work over all these years. Now,

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Anthony Hind
Jakob Lindberg's remarks about the wonderful sustain of his old Rauwolf seems to confirm what you say (sustain, complexity and clarity, together according to JL). Mersenne would certainly have heard marvellous old Bologna lutes sought out by French luthenists, no doubt exactly

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
: Rob MacKillop ; 'Lute List' Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain Not sure about that Mimmo... Mersenne is a scientist, therefore a precise observer and his observations are worth considering seriously. When he describes the duration of the sound of the bass stings of a lute, he

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
ibration, not the sound. >Mimmo > >-Messaggio originale- >From: Matthew Daillie >Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 10:52 AM >To: Mimmo Peruffo >Cc: Rob MacKillop ; Lute List >Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain > >One thing nobody seems to hav

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
: Monday, January 09, 2017 10:52 AM To: Mimmo Peruffo Cc: Rob MacKillop ; Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain One thing nobody seems to have mentioned is the vast differences in sustain from one instrument to another. Maybe Mersenne's comments go to show just how good some

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Matthew Daillie
Differences in string length can obviously also account for considerable variations in sustain. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Matthew Daillie
One thing nobody seems to have mentioned is the vast differences in sustain from one instrument to another. Maybe Mersenne's comments go to show just how good some lutes were at the time. If one was to rest a lute on the edge of a wooden table as they were wont to do at the time, then maybe

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
Sorry to the list it was a private message to Rop, I sent it also to the list for mistake Mimmo To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
-Messaggio originale- From: Rob MacKillop Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 8:49 AM To: Mimmo Peruffo Cc: Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain Good comments, Mimmo. I must say I am impressed with the Loaded Nylgut strings, and will definitely use them on from 6th

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Good comments, Mimmo. I must say I am impressed with the Loaded Nylgut strings, and will definitely use them on from 6th to 13th courses. Congratulations on creating a very good string. Rob > On 9 Jan 2017, at 07:24, Mimmo Peruffo <mperu...@aquilacorde.com> wrote: > > W

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
Poirier Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:46 PM To: Christopher Wilke ; Rob MacKillop ; 'Lute List' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain The exact quotation from Mersenne is : "...le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de l'oreille durant la sixiesme partie, ou le tiers

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: > > Good point, Howard. But still, twenty seconds is a long time. I am > certainly only interested in the time before clashing with the next > note or notes takes place, and that of course depends on the passage of

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Good point, Howard. But still, twenty seconds is a long time. I am certainly only interested in the time before clashing with the next note or notes takes place, and that of course depends on the passage of music. But generally speaking, even if we halve Mersenne's twenty seconds,

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: > > So what are we to make of this? The movement in the last decade has been to > minimise the sustain as long as possible. I'm completely on board with this. > But if we are to take Mersenne at face value, we have

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 08/01/2017 21:29, howard posner wrote: On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Rob MacKillop [1] wrote: Excellent. I'd appreciate a good translation of the French... Google Translate renders "le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de Tor eille durant la sixiesme

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 08/01/2017 21:46, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: The exact quotation from Mersenne is : "...le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de l'oreille durant la sixiesme partie, ou le tiers d'une minute, c'est à dire pendant que l'artère du poux d'un homme sain, & sans emotion bat dix, ou

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
though my French is very poor, I've attempted to find it to no avail. >> >> Chris >> [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >> >> On Sunday, January 8, 2017, 10:59 AM, Rob MacKillop >> <robmackil...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>Here's a very s

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 08/01/2017 20:58, Christopher Wilke wrote: Thanks! [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, January 8, 2017, 2:33 PM, David Morales [1] wrote: Yes, we have some quotes and images on our blog related to that topic in the interview

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
@gmail.com> wrote: > > Here's a very short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila > Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass > string. > [1][2]https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 > My ears hear better than the microphone, a

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Christopher Wilke
tain time of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass string. [1][4][7][6]https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 My ears hear better than the microphone, and the useable sustain on the

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: > > Excellent. I'd appreciate a good translation of the French... Google Translate renders "le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de Toreille durant la sixiesme partie, ou le tiers d'vne minutec'est à

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
ary 8, 2017, 10:59 AM, Rob MacKillop <[3][7]robmackil...@gmail.com> wrote: Here's a very short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass string. [1][4][8]https://y

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread David Morales
time of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass string. [1][4][7]https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 My ears hear better than the microphone, and the useable sustain on the Aquila string is 4

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
ime of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass string. [1][4]https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 My ears hear better than the microphone, and the useable sustain on the Aquila string is 4 seconds, while the Savarez is a lo

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Christopher Wilke
wrote: Here's a very short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass string. [1][2]https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 My ears hear better than the microphone, and the useable sustain on the Aquila

[LUTE] Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Anthony Hind
styles. Best regards Anthony Le 8 janv. 2017 à 16:59, Rob MacKillop <[1]robmackil...@gmail.com> a écrit : Here's a very short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Anthony Hind
  16:59, Rob MacKillop <[1]robmackil...@gmail.com> a écrit : Here's a very short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass string. [1][2]https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 My ears hear bette

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass string. [1][6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_8 FVJMk-5FXjv0=DQIBAg=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZF

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread John Mardinly
short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass string. [1][4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_8 FVJMk-5FXjv0=DQIBAg=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1I

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread David Morales
strings available on Cuerdas Pulsadas, include these new loaded strings. [2]www.cuerdaspulsadas.com Best regards 2017-01-08 16:59 GMT+01:00 Rob MacKillop <[3]robmackil...@gmail.com>: Here's a very short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila Loaded

[LUTE] Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Here's a very short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass string. [1]https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 My ears hear better than the microphone, and the useable sustain on the Aquila string is 4 seconds

[LUTE] Re: unexpected phenomenon with Aquila 'shiny' nylgut

2016-05-01 Thread Christopher Wilke
ed by the string specialists who know better, but it seems that the "shiny" nylgut strings live on in the form of Aqulia banjo strings. incidentally, they are on offer for quite a bit less than the cost of lute strings. RA ___

[LUTE] Re: unexpected phenomenon with Aquila 'shiny' nylgut

2016-05-01 Thread Matthew Daillie
Dear Mimmo, Thanks for responding to my email. Would it be feasible for you to offer two types of nylgut, the present formula which many players seem happy with, and the shiny variety which I know I am not alone in thinking was your best production yet? As for synthetic loaded gut, I have

[LUTE] Re: unexpected phenomenon with Aquila 'shiny' nylgut

2016-05-01 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
Hello guys Mimmo here. a few answers to the question: 1) the shiny smooth nylgut was done to have stronger nylgut strings for the guges thinner of .46 mm. Unfortunately, 90% almost of players were not happy due to the slippering surfce. It was a pity because making them in this way produce

[LUTE] Re: unexpected phenomenon with Aquila 'shiny' nylgut

2016-05-01 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Matthew and All, I have some "shiny" nylgut which I bought only a year or so ago (from Bridgewood and Neitzert, and I doubt that their stock was particularly ancient). I hadn't noticed any big difference between these and other nylgut strings in terms of stability, stretc

[LUTE] unexpected phenomenon with Aquila 'shiny' nylgut

2016-05-01 Thread Matthew Daillie
Dear All, I have just changed some strings on my 6-course in a'. For the top two courses I used some nylgut strings from July 2014. These are the shiny, smooth nylgut strings Aquila produced for a year or so before they went back to the previous formula, apparently after complaints from lute

[LUTE] Problems with new nylgut string on top course

2014-09-04 Thread simon.lambert
Dear Lutelisters, I am trying to replace the top course on a lute with a 0.4 mm new nylgut string, and I am finding that these strings constantly break at the nut before coming up to pitch. I have tried three strings and they all have broken. Previously the lute had an old nylgut string

[LUTE] Re: Problems with new nylgut string on top course

2014-09-04 Thread Christopher Stetson
Dear Simon and Listers, I don't have nylgut on my lute, but have several vintage guitars strung with it, both old and new, and be advised that I believe the material is a bit different. A I've found I need to allow about a one week break-in time to stretch out. A I tune it until

[LUTE] Re: Problems with new nylgut string on top course

2014-09-04 Thread Sean Smith
diameters is that they go false a little quicker than larger diameters. Sean * 60cm going to G (A=440) On Sep 4, 2014, at 9:26 AM, simon.lamb...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: Dear Lutelisters, I am trying to replace the top course on a lute with a 0.4 mm new nylgut string, and I am finding

[LUTE] Re: Problems with new nylgut string on top course

2014-09-04 Thread Sean Smith
Chris speaks truth. Take it up in stages. Leave it for a day at E or F before going up to G. Swapping to a new ng or nng string is not something you do on stage! Sean On Sep 4, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Christopher Stetson wrote: Dear Simon and Listers, I don't have nylgut on my lute

[LUTE] Re: Problems with new nylgut string on top course

2014-09-04 Thread Edward Martin
wrote: Dear Simon and Listers, I don't have nylgut on my lute, but have several vintage guitars strung with it, both old and new, and be advised that I believe the material is a bit different. A I've found I need to allow about a one week break-in time to stretch out. A I tune it until

[LUTE] Re: Problems with new nylgut string on top course

2014-09-04 Thread Sean Smith
: Dear Simon and Listers, I don't have nylgut on my lute, but have several vintage guitars strung with it, both old and new, and be advised that I believe the material is a bit different. A I've found I need to allow about a one week break-in time to stretch out. A I tune it until the pitch isn't

[LUTE] Re: Problems with new nylgut string on top course

2014-09-04 Thread Matthew Daillie
Dear Simon, One has to be wary about the nomenclature for nylgut strings as Aquila change their formula without informing customers. The old white nylgut was replaced by the 'new' rather sickly yellow material a few years back. The 0.40 diameter strings were very problematic and would indeed

[LUTE] new Nylgut strings

2013-06-16 Thread David Morales
Sorry for starting a new thread, first of all, i have just joined the list so i can't reply to the original thread about nylgut strings. For all of you who don't know me, i'm the owner of Cuerdas Pulsadas ([1]www.cuerdaspulsadas.com) and we had this issue about 10 months ago

[LUTE] Aquila Nylgut Problems

2013-06-13 Thread R. Mattes
Dear collected lute list wisdom, I just tried to switch my (late) medieval lute from all gut to all nylgut, everything fine, except: the top strings (63cm / g' @ 440 Hz - using 0.42mm) can't be put up to full tension. Both strings imediately break directly at the bridge. Strangely the aren't

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Nylgut Problems

2013-06-13 Thread Sean Smith
Dear Ralf, I had the same experience and snapped two .42's learning that New Nylgut won't always replace the old Nylgut of the same diameter (the second course did fine). My only difference being that my mensur is 60cm. I ordered .39 NNG and that solved it. I only use nng for the 1st course

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Nylgut Problems

2013-06-13 Thread William Samson
2013, 14:36 Subject: [LUTE] Aquila Nylgut Problems Dear collected lute list wisdom, I just tried to switch my (late) medieval lute from all gut to all nylgut, everything fine, except: the top strings (63cm / g' @ 440 Hz - using 0.42mm) can't be put up to full tension. Both

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Nylgut Problems

2013-06-13 Thread Edward Martin
want to have a gut treble g at a=440, if you exceed 59 cm length, it will result in string breaking prematurely. This is when using gut... the same might be for nylgut. At 63 cm, it is too long of a mensur for gut, and it also may be too long for nylgut. I have never had problems with nylon

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Nylgut Problems

2013-06-13 Thread Paolo Busato
) _ From: R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013, 14:36 Subject: [LUTE] Aquila Nylgut Problems Dear collected lute list wisdom, I just tried to switch my (late) medieval lute from

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Nylgut Problems

2013-06-13 Thread mike murray
Law 196/2003) _ A From: R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de A To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu A Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013, 14:36 A Subject: [LUTE] Aquila Nylgut Problems A Dear collected lute

[LUTE] Nylgut Oud strings

2012-05-02 Thread Bruno Fournier
Hi, A I'm interested in trying out Mimmo's Nylgut Oud strings on my Moroccan Oud.A Anyone has experience with them? I note that like all Oud string sets, the 3 rd string is wound.A I personally prefer a non-wound string on the 3rd course.A I currently use gut on my first 3

[LUTE] New nylgut and KF basses

2011-02-17 Thread Sauvage Valéry
As an alternative to gut, I try new nylgut and basses Savarez KF on 5-6-7th courses, (for the basses, as Carlos Gonzales told us on the french lute list.) So the only wounded string left here is the 8th course bass (not used on this recording) I keep the old string, as it is now not to bright

[LUTE] Re: New nylgut and KF basses

2011-02-17 Thread Daniel Winheld
Val- Thank you for sharing this with us; I have been very interested in the new nylgut, but last time I tried to purchase them, they were unavailable in the USA. First impression- I like the sound very much on all courses except the chanterelle- that one string sounds too bright, and out

[LUTE] Re: New nylgut and KF basses

2011-02-17 Thread Daniel Winheld
One other obvious point I should have remembered; the recording process and what I hear on my computer may be distorting the true sound- maybe I'm all wrong about that 1st course- perhaps it must be heard in person. Too bad I can't pop over to your place anytime soon. I will be trying the

[LUTE] Re: New nylgut and KF basses

2011-02-17 Thread Sauvage Valéry
de Daniel Winheld Envoyé : jeudi 17 février 2011 17:20 À : Sauvage Valéry Cc : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: New nylgut and KF basses One other obvious point I should have remembered; the recording process and what I hear on my computer may be distorting the true sound- maybe I'm all

[LUTE] Re: New nylgut and KF basses

2011-02-17 Thread Sauvage Valéry
-Message d'origine- Could you tell us your string length, string diameters tension, pitch standard? Thank you, Dan Here are the infos : Strings : NNG (new nylgut Aquila) KF (Savarez KF) Lute string length 60 cm, A 440 The references of the KF are from luthier Carlos Gonzales

[LUTE] Re: New nylgut and KF basses

2011-02-17 Thread erne...@aquila.mus.br
Thanks for the info, I will compare it with the values usually used by lutenists here in Brazil and let you know about the possible deviations I may find! How do you like the sound of new nylgut compared to the old nylgut ? And compared to other strings? Thanks, Ernesto Em 17/02/2011

[LUTE] Re: New nylgut and KF basses

2011-02-17 Thread Sauvage Valéry
-Message d'origine- I didn't know that KF went thicker than about .85 or .90, at .95 and thicker I only have KFG (carbon fiber gut) which I use on the vihuela 5th 6th course, and diapasons on the archlute. Is your KF clear, or somewhat off-white, almost beige in color and cloudy?

[LUTE] Re: New nylgut and KF basses

2011-02-17 Thread Edward Mast
wrote: -Message d'origine- Could you tell us your string length, string diameters tension, pitch standard? Thank you, Dan Here are the infos : Strings : NNG (new nylgut Aquila) KF (Savarez KF) Lute string length 60 cm, A 440 The references of the KF are from luthier

[LUTE] Re: New nylgut and KF basses

2011-02-17 Thread Guy Smith
To: Sauvage Valéry Cc: 'Daniel Winheld'; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: New nylgut and KF basses On instruments with bridge and peg holes too small for heavier gauge strings, Val, I've found it an easy procedure to enlarge them with a small hobby drill. A very small drill that can

[LUTE] Re: New nylgut and KF basses

2011-02-17 Thread Sauvage Valery
-Message d'origine- How do you like the sound of new nylgut compared to the old nylgut ? And compared to other strings? Thanks, Ernesto I like better the new ones, I find it warmer and less noisy under the fingers. Warmer too compare to the KF I used before. A little bit

[LUTE] loaded Nylgut

2010-12-26 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
Hello to all guys, Two days ago I was able to do nylgut heavier So I made am little batch of strings just for some tests These samples are, at present, of graphite's grey colour ( due to the metallic powder I used to charge Nylgut); however I will do some changes

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-20 Thread wolfgang wiehe
my new nylgut arrived today. I ordered it last week from Mathias Wagner. It really looks like gut-strings. greetings w. Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 14:05:43 -0600 Von: Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com An: Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net, lute

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-20 Thread Anthony Hind
Envoye le : Lun 20 decembre 2010, 3h 31min 16s Objet : Re: [LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle Curtis Daily of Portland, OR reports that he does not know as yet when he will receive a shipment of NNGs. Luckily, those most worthy are given them by the string gods, and have

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-20 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
Thank you so much about your help Anthony. This morning I made 100 Kg almost of the Nw Nylgut strings with the extruder machine. Yesterday I made the NGE type. Now we need to rectify them ( 5-6 days almost of work) and package them, that is quite a tedious operation Please

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-20 Thread Anthony Hind
Nylgut test as Chanterelle Curtis Daily of Portland, OR reports that he does not know as yet when he will receive a shipment of NNGs. Luckily, those most worthy are given them by the string gods, and have generously reported their virtues. Thank you, Ed and David. Mark Seifert

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-20 Thread gonzornumplatt
Nylgut test as Chanterelle Curtis Daily of Portland, OR reports that he does not know as yet when he will receive a shipment of NNGs. Luckily, those most worthy are given them by the string gods, and have generously reported their virtues. Thank you, Ed and David. Mark Seifert

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-20 Thread Anthony Hind
agno3ph...@yahoo.com Envoye le : Lun 20 decembre 2010, 22h 25min 01s Objet : [LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle Anthony, I don't know if this would be of any use to you, but I have found one (and only this one!) type of close-wound overspun string to sound acceptable on my Baroque

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-20 Thread Edward Martin
. Thanks again, Anthony __ De : Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net A : Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Envoye le : Lun 20 decembre 2010, 22h 25min 01s Objet : [LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle Anthony

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-20 Thread Anthony Hind
Nylgut test as Chanterelle A few years ago, I saw one of the gold gimped strings. It was beautiful. I have not asked Dan Larson about them for years, but I can imagine that now the cost would be absolutely prohibitive. But now he uses Sterling silver with the gut, and I can tell

[LUTE] New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-19 Thread Anthony Hind
Venice octaves. $ I therefore put a 0.44 NG on my 70cm 11c Warwick at 407Hz, and a 42 NG on my 60cm 7c Gerle at 440Hz. $ I only have slight direct playing experience with the old nylgut, as I have mostly used all gut; so my comparison has to be mainly with treble gut

[LUTE] New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-19 Thread Anthony Hind
Venice octaves. $ I therefore put a 0.44 NG on my 70cm 11c Warwick at 407Hz, and a 42 NG on my 60cm 7c Gerle at 440Hz. $ I only have slight direct playing experience with the old nylgut, as I have mostly used all gut; so my comparison has to be mainly with treble gut

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-19 Thread Daniel Winheld
direct playing experience with the old nylgut, as I have mostly used all gut; so my comparison has to be mainly with treble gut (brightish: Aquila, Keurschner, softer: Baldock and darker: Gamut, and of course Sofracob). $ However, I have heard NG on many other people's lutes

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-19 Thread Edward Martin
Curtis, at Aquila USA. I do not know if he has them in stock yet. Last time I heard from Curtis, he was still awaiting delivery from Italy. Remember, it often takes more than a month for mailing something from Italy. At least, that is my experience (when Mimmo mails something from Italy,

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-19 Thread Anthony Hind
. $ I only have slight direct playing experience with the old nylgut, as I have mostly used all gut; so my comparison has to be mainly with treble gut (brightish: Aquila, Keurschner, softer: Baldock and darker: Gamut, and of course Sofracob). $ However, I have heard NG on many

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-19 Thread David Tayler
in pure Aquila gut, my Meanes as Venices, and my bases loaded with mostly Venice octaves. $ I therefore put a 0.44 NG on my 70cm 11c Warwick at 407Hz, and a 42 NG on my 60cm 7c Gerle at 440Hz. $ I only have slight direct playing experience with the old nylgut, as I have

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-19 Thread Daniel Winheld
cumulative annoyance makes them suddenly intolerable. I would like to get some of the new Nylgut before this event occurs. Dan Dear Dan I am glad this may be a help, but I see you have far more experience of nylon strings than I have, so you may not come to quite the same

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-19 Thread Daniel Winheld
407 is such a good pitch for lute. Don't be so darn cheap. Cough up another ¢2 and you can have 409, which is even better. Getting close to winter solstice- watch out for seasonal affective disorder and wandering frets. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut test as Chanterelle

2010-12-19 Thread gonzornumplatt
at 407Hz, and a 42 NG on my 60cm 7c Gerle at 440Hz. $ I only have slight direct playing experience with the old nylgut, as I have mostly used all gut; so my comparison has to be mainly with treble gut (brightish: Aquila, Keurschner, softer: Baldock and darker: Gamut

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New Nylgut strings

2010-12-10 Thread David van Ooijen
2010/12/9 Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com As you probably know, I advocate gut.  But, for nylgut lovers, this is a new, improved version. It seems to me the new Emperor's clothes have the colour of gut. ;-) David To get on or off this list see list information at http

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New Nylgut strings

2010-12-09 Thread Edward Martin
Great. As you probably know, I advocate gut. But, for nylgut lovers, this is a new, improved version. ed At 07:29 AM 12/9/2010, Nicolás Valencia wrote: Dear Ed, Thanks for your detailed report. It looks like Aquila has improved a lot their strings. I've seen they're commercially available

[BAROQUE-LUTE] New Nylgut strings

2010-12-08 Thread Edward Martin
Dear ones, I announced last night that I received a new set of nylgut for my 13-course baroque lute. I did put them on yesterday, and I let them set overnight. I already reported that the new color is very good, and the feel is very good, as well. Now that I can tune the new strings, I can

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