Re: [newbie] see all files and partitions in Linux ..

2002-06-14 Thread Brian Parish
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 21:32, FARSHAD wrote: > hello to all > i'm using from win98 and LM 8.2 with dual boot , i installed LM in Fat32 .. > how can i see all files in my hdd by Linux ? i want have access too all files > in all drives by Linux .. > bye > Chances are your windows partitions are alre

Re: [newbie] Virus in Linus OS ...

2002-06-14 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 June 2002 08:50 pm, D. Olson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > There are a grand total of 19 Linux viruses/trojans/worms, according to > the Linux virus encyclopedia. ...and the number "in the wild" is? zero? - -- Carpe D

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist sidetrack

2002-06-14 Thread dfox
> > Hat ha eddig nem volt nyilvanvalo :-() My hovercraft is full of eels. (ducking) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

RE: [newbie] OT: Pre-migration strategies: Win2K -> LM

2002-06-14 Thread Franki
if you are using win98 still, I wouldn't use 98lite to remove IE.. sad fact is that mozilla doesn't do activeX, and windows update needs it.. so if you remove ie, you will make windoze even less secure then normal since you won't be able to run win update and get the patches.. you could go ther

Re: [newbie] OT: Pre-migration strategies: Win2K -> LM

2002-06-14 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 14 Jun 2002 13:36:27 -0600, Warren Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a little off topic, so if there's a better forum for my question > just point me to it. > > I have a client with a Windows 2000 LAN. Someday I'll finally convince > management to migrate to Linux Mandrake, but today's

Re: [newbie] OT - World Cup broadcasts

2002-06-14 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 22:00:14 -0400, Todd Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:26:50 +0100 > Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As usual the BBC can be relied on http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/ > > > > It was a good match :-) > > As it happens Italy would have g

Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes

2002-06-14 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 20:45:15 +0100, Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SNIP > > > > I'd have to argue on the point of intuitive. I just spent 2 minutes > > trying to paste text from one email to another. It showed in my little > > clip board in the bottom right but I couldn't paste it usi

[newbie] making dos file system on floppy

2002-06-14 Thread Scott
I'm trying to format a floppy with a dos file system using the command "mkdosfs /dev/hdd" . I keep getting the error message "mkdosfs: Will not try to make filesystem on '/dev/hdd'". I have a "two drives in one" floppy drive that is detected in harddrake as both hdd and fd0. It won't mount a

Re: [newbie] problem with run RPM files ..

2002-06-14 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 04 December 2002 04:03 am, FARSHAD did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > hello > i have a problem with RPM files , when i run a RPM run by guest account > or root account i got a error message .. will be appear a box with title >

Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes

2002-06-14 Thread Derek Byram
On Friday 14 June 2002 00:52, you wrote: >Anyhow, I hope that I have enlightened at least one person out there... Just >be aware of what is really going on. Use the brain that you have to make a >decision, not to follow, but to lead. > > Cory Grey > Coastal Pacific Xpress > www.cpx.ca > (604)

Re: [newbie] Network start up

2002-06-14 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 June 2002 03:21 pm, Mark Annandale did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > I have recently upgraded to kde 3.0.1. Each time I log into kde I get the > initial preferences setup, even if I complete it, it re-appears the next > log i

[newbie] problem with run RPM files ..

2002-06-14 Thread FARSHAD
hello i have a problem with RPM files , when i run a RPM run by guest account or root account i got a error message .. will be appear a box with title "can't display location" and write below message into message box ..     [ nautilus has no installed viewer capable of displaying ]    "/roo

Re: [newbie] see all files and partitions in Linux ..

2002-06-14 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 10:32, FARSHAD wrote: > hello to all > i'm using from win98 and LM 8.2 with dual boot , i installed LM in Fat32 .. > how can i see all files in my hdd by Linux ? i want have access too all > files in all drives by Linux .. > bye Do I understand you correctly? You ha

Re: [newbie] Upgrading memory

2002-06-14 Thread dfox
> Again thanks for all of the suggestions. Below are the specs on a computer > that I am considering. Would Linux-Mandrake 8.2 work on this machine? I may Next time, don't cut and paste the whole ad. Otherwise your message is looking like someone spammed the list. I imagine Mandrake would work

Re: Well OT: Re: [newbie] Hahaha, did you see?

2002-06-14 Thread Derek Byram
On Saturday 13 June 2009 02:10, you wrote: > et wrote: > >On Thursday 11 June 2009 09:23 pm, you wrote: > >>Qupte from the linked article: > >> > Just as the AdTI showed that people who've actually worked with > >> > >>MCSE's have a higher opinion of them than people who haven't > >> > >>What? Th

Re: [newbie] RPMs in CD 3 MDK 8.2

2002-06-14 Thread Vasiliy Boulytchev
in the future, I'll disregard this kind of questions LOL     but, why dont you mount the CDROM, look up all the packages on Google.    Regards,Vasiliy BoulytchevColorado Information Technologies Inc. - Original Message - From: FARSHAD To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednes

Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?

2002-06-14 Thread robin
As someone put in their signature, the only intuitive interface is a nipple; after that, you have to learn. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remote Login

2002-06-14 Thread dfox
> A Telnet session, have all the privileges like a console session ?? > There is another way to have a remote access to my system ? It should just work as a regular console. However, telnet most likely is not set up to be 'root' and apachectl is probably not in the user's PATH. 'apachectl

Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes

2002-06-14 Thread Miark
> Where would I start to get Dvorak on Mandrake? > > I tried to learn Dvorak before, I was up to about 30-40 wpm when I left > my position. I took a position where I didn't have my own system and I > had to share. I type up to 120 wpm on a qwerty keyboard so the speed > decrease is also a frustra

Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?

2002-06-14 Thread et
On Friday 14 June 2002 04:04 pm, you wrote: > > > I'd have to argue on the point of intuitive. I just spent 2 minutes > > > trying to paste text from one email to another. It showed in my little > > > clip board in the bottom right but I couldn't paste it using CTRL+V or > > > the paste command in

[newbie] time display in fluxbox

2002-06-14 Thread Michael
Is there any way to change the time display in fluxbox to 12 hour time? I understand that most countries use twenty-four hour time but seeing as I'm an American civilian I would like 12 hour which I'm used to. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore

Re: [newbie] OT: Pre-migration strategies: Win2K -> LM

2002-06-14 Thread robin
Warren Post wrote: >This is a little off topic, so if there's a better forum for my question >just point me to it. > >I have a client with a Windows 2000 LAN. Someday I'll finally convince >management to migrate to Linux Mandrake, but today's not the day. Short >of changing the OS, however, I've

Re: [newbie] see all files and partitions in Linux ..

2002-06-14 Thread mike
> FARSHAD wrote: > > hello to all > i'm using from win98 and LM 8.2 with dual boot , i installed LM in > Fat32 .. > how can i see all files in my hdd by Linux ? i want have access too > all files > in all drives by Linux .. > bye > You have to make mount points from the control center, but if y

[newbie] Dvorak keyboard layout

2002-06-14 Thread Miark
Hi all, The article Sridhar cited says, "Sholes figured he had to take the most common letter pairs such as 'TH' and make sure their typebars hung at safe [mechanical] distances." That is, he didn't rearrange the letters to slow people down, he did it to lessen the mechanical problems associated

Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?

2002-06-14 Thread D. Olson
I only use CTRL+V is middle click doesn't work, which is the problem I described. On Friday 14 June 2002 05:47 pm, you wrote: > On Fri 14 Jun 2002 23:03, D. Olson wrote: > > Whiles we're bitching about copy and paste, let me throw my anger in here > > too. > > > > > > Stupid Klipper doesn't

[newbie] recover root Password ...

2002-06-14 Thread FARSHAD
i did lose my root Password , but i'm sure correctly set root password during install mdk 8.2 , but in that time i made a guest user and always i entered with this user but when i did test root account i got incorrect password .. now , how can i found what's my root password ? thanks in adv

[newbie] Virus in Linus OS ...

2002-06-14 Thread FARSHAD
hi i have heard there aren't any Virus in Linux OS , is that right ? how do work Linux which virus can't infect that .. what's your idea ? bye  

[newbie] RPMs in CD 3 MDK 8.2

2002-06-14 Thread FARSHAD
hello i'm using from mdk 8.2 , in CD 3 there are very RPM files , if everybody have a full list of this PRMs with details for each file , please send for me ... i want know what's name apps (RPM) in CD 3 mdk 8.2 and i want know each app what do they do ? thanks alot bye  

[newbie] see all files and partitions in Linux ..

2002-06-14 Thread FARSHAD
hello to all i'm using from win98 and LM 8.2 with dual boot , i installed LM in Fat32 .. how can i see all files in my hdd by Linux ? i want have access too all files in all drives by Linux .. bye  

Re: [newbie] recover root Password ...

2002-06-14 Thread Vasiliy Boulytchev
:)    I'm sure a ton of people are smiling    :) How about do "ps ax"   Exploit a root service  :)  I'm not going any further.  You have console to your box, gaining root isn't hard.   Regards,Vasiliy BoulytchevColorado Information Technologies Inc. - Original Message - Fro

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)

2002-06-14 Thread Vasiliy Boulytchev
My wishlist, for 9.0 is FreeSwan 1.97 with X.509 patches up to 0.9.10 :) or is this up to the freeswan list to submit the RPMS? Regards, Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. - Original Message - From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, J

Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?

2002-06-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Fri 14 Jun 2002 23:03, D. Olson wrote: > Whiles we're bitching about copy and paste, let me throw my anger in here > too. > > > Stupid Klipper doesn't work as expected all the time. Why is it that > sometimes it doesn't pick up what I selected? And why is it that sometimes > I select something,

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)

2002-06-14 Thread robin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I disagree with the Opera thing.. not that it's a bad browser or anything, >but it is closed source... maybe an extra's cd filled with all closed >source code, but I don't think it should be mixed together. The beauty is >knowing I can do whatever I want with a standar

Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?

2002-06-14 Thread D. Olson
Whiles we're bitching about copy and paste, let me throw my anger in here too. Stupid Klipper doesn't work as expected all the time. Why is it that sometimes it doesn't pick up what I selected? And why is it that sometimes I select something, and it picks it up, yet in order to paste it, I HAVE

Re: [newbie] OT: Pre-migration strategies: Win2K -> LM

2002-06-14 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 June 2002 12:36 pm, Warren Post did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > Short > of changing the OS, however, I've been given carte blanche to "improve > the system." What should I be doing now to insure that a future > migration to

Re: [newbie] Upgrading memory

2002-06-14 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 June 2002 11:58 am, Marcia did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > The above message convinces me to consider very seriously to build my own > computer by starting with a barebones kit-mainly this one below: always a good way to l

Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?

2002-06-14 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 June 2002 01:04 pm, Joshua James did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > > Why is Ctl-V intuitive? Just because that is how Windows does it does > > not make it 'intuitive' > > I have better things to do with my time than figure ou

Re: [newbie] Remote Login

2002-06-14 Thread Tim Holmes
Did you su to root before running this command? apachectl is something you need to be root to run. Thus it's been put in one of the various sbins on the machine. Unless you edit the $PATH for that user, it won't even see applications in /sbin, /usr/sbin, or /usr/local/sbin. You can't telnet in

[newbie] Remote Login

2002-06-14 Thread N E N I S T E R
I made a telnet connection against my LINUX System and tried to run the command "apachectl" but my system can´t recognize the sentence, but when I´m on Console works fine... A Telnet session, have all the privileges like a console session ?? There is another way to have a remote access to my

Re: [newbie] OT: Pre-migration strategies: Win2K -> LM

2002-06-14 Thread Joshua James
At least if you switch to OpenOffice you'll save a ton of money on licensing. Users will also find something familiar when you switch them to linux down the road. I'm in the same place as you. I really do like Win2k/XP but I'm trying to switch to Mandrake. That way down the road I'll have enough

Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?

2002-06-14 Thread Joshua James
> > I'd have to argue on the point of intuitive. I just spent 2 minutes > > trying to paste text from one email to another. It showed in my little > > clip board in the bottom right but I couldn't paste it using CTRL+V or > > the paste command in the edit menu. I could however paste it in KEdit. >

Re: [newbie] Startup applications, icons, window positioning, and file associations - Need some HOWTO

2002-06-14 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 14 June 2002 17:12, Joshua James wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone can give me some information regarding the > following items: > > 1. How to make a program automatically startup with login, how to start > minimized would be nice too. Use Autostart as shane suggested or else, when you l

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)

2002-06-14 Thread Alastair Scott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 June 2002 3:31 pm, Linux Maniac wrote: > I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My > wishlist is in short: > > - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to > provide them preinstalled in MD

Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes

2002-06-14 Thread Derek Jennings
SNIP > > I'd have to argue on the point of intuitive. I just spent 2 minutes > trying to paste text from one email to another. It showed in my little > clip board in the bottom right but I couldn't paste it using CTRL+V or > the paste command in the edit menu. I could however paste it in KEdit. >

Re: [newbie] Upgrading memory

2002-06-14 Thread Marcia
> > I'll be honest & say that *as a guess* one of two things will happen > with your desired 512 mb's of ram: > > > a) the comp will puke & refuse to boot. > > or > > b) the comp will boot fine, and you'll be happy. > > General & Vague I know but i've had some experience with 200mz > Pentiums. I

[newbie] OT: Pre-migration strategies: Win2K -> LM

2002-06-14 Thread Warren Post
This is a little off topic, so if there's a better forum for my question just point me to it. I have a client with a Windows 2000 LAN. Someday I'll finally convince management to migrate to Linux Mandrake, but today's not the day. Short of changing the OS, however, I've been given carte blanche t

Re: [newbie] searchbot

2002-06-14 Thread Michael Adams
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 18:19, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:07:12 -0700, drwhat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > howdy all... > > > > I am looking for the linux equiv. to the windows program Copernic > > its a searchbot, that searches thru google, altavista, yahoo, webcrawler, > >

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)

2002-06-14 Thread Michael Carr
Boxed sets that come with a complete set of RPMs would be nice. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] mysql

2002-06-14 Thread Miark
I learned how to get around in MySQL using the documentation at their site: mysql.com. Learn their material first, then you can spend yer money on a slightly more advanced book if you need to. Miark "Schwenk, Jeanie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith: > I need to learn mysql. I looked at bookpool a

[newbie] restricting ssh login to specific ip's.

2002-06-14 Thread Franki
Hi guys, Does sshd use hosts.deny and hosts.allow if its running standalone? I want to restrict remote ssh logins to my static IP so only I can log into remote servers... how do I restrict sshd to only accept connections from my IP regards Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from

RE: [newbie] mysql

2002-06-14 Thread Franki
excellent book I bought is: MYSQL by Paul Dubois released by "New Riders" Its an excellent book covers SQL itself then mysql specifically, and covers most languages that can access it. perl, java, c, c++ etc etc... very well written, very easy to understand.. and it was edited by some of the g

Re: [newbie] mysql

2002-06-14 Thread David Little
On Friday 14 June 2002 6:36 pm, you wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Schwenk, Jeanie wrote: > > I need to learn mysql. I looked at bookpool and there are too many > > books to pick from. Can anyone give me a recommendation? I found Sams Teach yourself Mysql in 21 days and O'Reilly's Mysql & Msql

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist sidetrack

2002-06-14 Thread Michael
On Thursday 13 June 2002 11:57 am, you wrote: Well, I'm not exactly fluent in the language, I only now a little, (my father is Hungarian) so I'll try to figure out what you're saying: "Well, I'm not Hungarian but I speak the language." close? "By the way, are you subscribed to the hungarian mand

Re: [newbie] mysql

2002-06-14 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Schwenk, Jeanie wrote: > I need to learn mysql. I looked at bookpool and there are too many books to > pick from. Can anyone give me a recommendation? I'm a C/Java programmer so > it doesn't have to be too basic, just thorough and preferably not put me to > sleep. > > J

[newbie] I need to restart X to load driver and .bash_profile

2002-06-14 Thread johan
Hey, I am using a clean install of Mandrake 8.2.After succesfully installing the ati fgl8800 driver (mandrake rpm) I runinto a problemEvery time i boot mandrake the driver isn't loaded. But if i restart x,(ctrl+alt+backspace, or switch to rl3 and back to rl5) it loads flawlessly.I experienced

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)

2002-06-14 Thread jay
A few thing I would change would be in Gnome... When you click a tar.gz file it automagically opens it... no having to setup a program to run when clicked. Also a .gnome-desktop sym-link such as Gnome-desktop in your /home/user/ directory would be nice. I disagree with the Opera thing.. not that

[newbie] mysql

2002-06-14 Thread Schwenk, Jeanie
I need to learn mysql. I looked at bookpool and there are too many books to pick from. Can anyone give me a recommendation? I'm a C/Java programmer so it doesn't have to be too basic, just thorough and preferably not put me to sleep. Jeanie ___

Re: [newbie] Startup applications, icons, window positioning, and file associations - Need some HOWTO

2002-06-14 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 June 2002 09:12 am, Joshua James did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > 1. How to make a program automatically startup with login, how to start > minimized would be nice too. for kde putting it in your home /.kde/Autostart or kde

Re: [newbie] Startup applications, icons, window positioning, and file associations - Need some HOWTO

2002-06-14 Thread robin
Joshua James wrote: >I'm wondering if anyone can give me some information regarding the >following items: > What window manager are using? KDE, GNOME etc. handle things differently. I'll try to answer these questions assuming you're using KDE2, which is the default in Mandrake 8.2 > > >1. H

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)

2002-06-14 Thread D. Olson
On Thursday 13 June 2002 10:37 pm, you wrote: > you see, when i said mandrake needs a graphic redesign, i really > meant mandrake. not KDE, Gnome, or any other product. just the > looks of Mandrakesoft's products. Totally agree. All the icons look too similar... Too much purple CAN be a bad thin

[newbie] Startup applications, icons, window positioning, and fileassociations - Need some HOWTO

2002-06-14 Thread Joshua James
I'm wondering if anyone can give me some information regarding the following items: 1. How to make a program automatically startup with login, how to start minimized would be nice too. 2. How to change icons correctly. I have put programs in my taskbar but I think I've assigned the icons incorre

[newbie] Onboard IDE Raid

2002-06-14 Thread Scott Mayo
Has anyone set up Linux on a motherboard with the Promise 20265R Raid controller on it and got it to work? I do not get past the first 2 minutes of setup and get what looks like an NT blue screen of death after it tries installing the raid drivers from my disk. Thanks, Scott Mayo Tech Coordinator

Re: [newbie] mandrake 8.2 + usb-mouse hotplugging

2002-06-14 Thread Chris Spackman
On Thursday 13 June 2002 09:53 pm, someone wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I posted this message about a month ago in comp.os.linux.misc nobody > has answered so far. I guess it was the wrong place to post something > mandrake specific. > > Well, my problem is my usb-mouse. It works fine after startup,

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)

2002-06-14 Thread s
On Thursday 13 June 2002 09:37 pm, Damian G wrote: > > [snip] > > > > Damian, > > > > clearly you haven't seen kde-301 yet, have you? and besides...it's not > > their job to make it "look" prettier. thats what desktop managers like > > KDE, Blackbox, and the rest are for, right? > > .. i used KDE

[newbie] Hardware questions

2002-06-14 Thread Anne Wilson
Two problems, possibly related: 1) In /dev there is an entry scanner@, which is flashing red. What does this mean? It may be connected with the fact that my CanoScan FS2710, a scsi film scanner, is recognised at boot-up, but that is as far as I have got with it. 2) Problem 1 came to ligh

Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes

2002-06-14 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 02:28:31 -0600, FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 23:06:29 -0600, Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Looking back, I can only bow my head in self-disgust. But > > > the lesson is a valuable one: Thinking that DOS

Re: [newbie] FTP server problems

2002-06-14 Thread Jamie Kerwick
Don't worry about this i fixed it!. I had a bad line in my hosts file!. (/var/log/messages is very useful!!) Jamie >From: "Jamie Kerwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [newbie] FTP server problems >Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:06:31 +0100 > >I'm

[newbie] FTP server problems

2002-06-14 Thread Jamie Kerwick
I'm running mdk8.2. I HAD my ftp server running OK last night. I came to ftp into the linux box this morning, no joy. I get a "421 Service not available" error when trying to connect. I get the same result trying to ftp into the linux box, from the linux box. The server type is set to inetd in

Re: [newbie] sound record and playback

2002-06-14 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
Try loading userdrake and adding your 'user' to the audio group. Also, have you configured a Bastille firewall? That can sometimes mess up ESD. On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:07:41 +0200, Raffaele Belardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ESD is still running. I tried your hint without success (thanks anyway

Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes

2002-06-14 Thread FemmeFatale
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 23:06:29 -0600, Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Looking back, I can only bow my head in self-disgust. But > > the lesson is a valuable one: Thinking that DOS/Win is > > any more logical, intuitive, or superior than any other > > OS is a menta