Thanks for the info! That's an interesting concept. I just went to the
Linux Expo here in Brazil and they had a great talk by the founder of
the LTSP on diskless terminals. Seems like it has a bunch of
advantages, particularly in the coprporate/educational setting.
-Paul
"Austin L. Denyer"
Thanks for the info! That's an interesting concept. I just went to the
Linux Expo here in Brazil and they had a great talk by the founder of
the LTSP on diskless terminals. Seems like it has a bunch of
advantages, particularly in the coprporate/educational setting.
-Paul
The biggest
Argh... Duh, is there free technical support?
Roman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 10:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
My Gawd man! what'll
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
patrick wrote:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote:
This is true about overclocking destroying hardware. Some chips can't
even
run stably at their intended clockspeed. In
I was seeing that when I used KDE. Now that I've switched to
windowmaker I rarely see my system use swap. Usually only when I'm
compiling, listening to a cd, reading email and working on something in
the GIMP.
Abe
Michael Scottaline wrote:
Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ozz:
Actually, there is a Linux-based web appliance available now from N|C (I
think that's how they spell it). The only disk is a CD-ROM which
contains the OS and apps -- mostly Netscape with some plug-ins --
Realwhatever, Flash and some other stuff. It's a venture of Larry
Ellison (of Oracle and
Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Something just occured to me as I reading through this post again.
(no... I know what you're thinking and that's not it...I was cleaning up
my mail and this happened to catch my attention.) Anyway, at the moment
I'm running SETI@home, which is very
s the best
thing since sliced bread, when i got a 700mhz and O/ced to 840mhz it was
awsome, tests showed it. :p
markOpoleO
- Original Message -
From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon
IBM was trying to do something similar, but Phoenix reverse engineered
(first successful (in court) reverse engineering ever?) the
motherboard
BIOS chip.
That act began a chain of events that resulted in PCs as we know them.
Have any of you wondered about the "reverse engineering" clause in
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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100
Newbies,
I want to clarify a couple of points, given all of the discussions
since
my posting: having done modest overclocking (15%) I found it to be more
trouble than it was worth overall
Dacia and AzureRose wrote:
Linux is fast with 128 megs. It is much faster with
256 and when you put 384 in it really starts to cook.
I imagine that a 'hammer with a gig of ram would
pretty much do everything right as the thought to do
it first crossed your mind.
Imagine a world where X
Swanepoel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
I use a PIII 500 with 64Mb of RAM. Starting up SO does take some time,
but I can handle that.
The problem is trying to do anything else on your
Abe,
The extra speed that comes as a result of overclocking IS noticable, but
not a big change. A more significant question is: if a system is overclocked
but stable, how long will it remain stable, and what will you go through
before you find the culprit: how much trouble will it cause
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Abe,
The extra speed that comes as a result of overclocking IS noticable, but
not a big change. A more significant question is: if a system is overclocked
but stable, how long will it remain stable, and what will you go through
before you find the culprit: how
Magicshooter1 P wrote:
Hallo,
infact i m a newbie too, but i myself got a lot of question to ask
Linux mandrake dot com for help i dont know why all newbie questions
came to me .
anway , next time dont email me ..i m a nw bie .know nuts
only.
Yes, the sentence "How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even 900mhz
then it is now?" from my previous email was intended as sarcastic irony not a
true question. I have experience with over clocked ram and cpu's. Like you
I've learned that it is not worth it. If I need pc-150
ptember 15, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
Yes, the sentence "How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even
900mhz
then it is now?" from my previous email was intended as sarcastic irony
not a
true question. I have experience with over clocked
sts showed it. :p
markOpoleO
- Original Message -
From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
Yes, the sentence "How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even
900mhz
it was
awsome, tests showed it. :p
markOpoleO
- Original Message -
From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
Yes, the sentence "How much faster is it going to be at
erclocking is the best
thing since sliced bread, when i got a 700mhz and O/ced to 840mhz it was
awsome, tests showed it. :p
markOpoleO
- Original Message -
From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbie
eh? :) Overclocking is the best
thing since sliced bread, when i got a 700mhz and O/ced to 840mhz it was
awsome, tests showed it. :p
markOpoleO
- Original Message -
From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: RE
uh...who talked 'shit' about you? (You dirty bastard...overclock that
processor!) :)
dwyatt
- Original Message -
From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 6:20 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
ed bread, when i got a 700mhz and O/ced to 840mhz it
was
awsome, tests showed it. :p
markOpoleO
- Original Message -
From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
that
processor!) :)
dwyatt
- Original Message -
From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 6:20 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
its funny. The hardcore anti-overclocking people hate me because I
d
thing since sliced bread, when i got a 700mhz and O/ced to 840mhz it
was
awsome, tests showed it. :p
markOpoleO
- Original Message -
From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbi
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regarding RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]:
your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. It
crawls on
384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have a smoke, read the
newspaper,
cook some dinner, Hey! the splash screen is up
All this about Star Office got me curious, so I timed it:
System:
AMD K6-3, 400
Asus p5A-b
RAM = 192 (64 + 128 )
HDA = WD 13.6GB
HDB = WD 30.7GB
SWAP = 128mb
OS = SUSE 6.4 - "Practically Everything" option (HDA is almost full)
So, from starting to move the cursor to the KDE panel icon
I use a PIII 500 with 64Mb of RAM. Starting up SO does take some time,
but I can handle that.
The problem is trying to do anything else on your computer, e.g.. use
Netscape. Once you change applications your disk starts swapping and
never stops.
I use VMware and Win95 with Office97. This uses
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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
yes but why? My machine never crashes and its on 24/7 with extremely
heavy
use.
I have half-life/quake3/unreal tournament marathons over here where I play
on
my computer while it hosts for 5-12 peop
Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
H...it took mine 43 seconds to come up.
AMD K6-233
64MB SDRAM
2.2.16 kernel
Linux Mandrake 7.1
that's really not too bad.
--
Mark
=
With Navigator, Kbiff, kmail, kppp, four terminals all running, SO 5.1
Linux is fast with 128 megs. It is much faster with
256 and when you put 384 in it really starts to cook.
I imagine that a 'hammer with a gig of ram would
pretty much do everything right as the thought to do
it first crossed your mind.
Imagine a world where X and netscape don't push
you have my condolences Ozz. But hey, you can take your linux box with you
where ever you go! I have to sit at home in front of my desk to use it.
That's a definately worth it trade off.
Abe
= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Linux is fast with 128
your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. It crawls on
384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have a smoke, read the newspaper,
cook some dinner, Hey! the splash screen is up on the screen!
hahahahahaha
Abe
= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer"
you have my condolences Ozz. But hey, you can take your linux box
with you
where ever you go! I have to sit at home in front of my desk to use
it.
That's a definately worth it trade off.
How long does it take you to boot StarOffice? I can go make a coffee
while it loads on mine
Yes, I've experienced that, but it does seem a lot better in version 5.2.
It's funny though, I've used the windows version and it seems to work just
fine - go figure
Mike
your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M.
It crawls on
384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer,
I am using 5.2. It does seem a bit faster in windows though. weird.
Abe
= Original Message From "Mike Tracy Holt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Yes, I've experienced that, but it does seem a lot better in version 5.2.
It's funny though, I've used the windows version and it seems to work just
it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with 256M of
ram.
It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block for seti
but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be quite a
bit faster in linux.
abe
= Original Message From
it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with
256M of
ram.
envy
It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block
for seti
but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be
quite a
bit faster in linux.
You betcha!
Regards,
Ozz.
the duron 600s are going for about 75 USD right now. The Asus A7v runs about
160. fairly affordable as far as brand new hardware goes. I spent about
three months researching and saving to get this machine built.
Abe
= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote:
the duron 600s are going for about 75 USD right now. The Asus A7v runs about
160. fairly affordable as far as brand new hardware goes. I spent about
three months researching and saving to get this machine built.
Abe
= Original Message From
no. maybe in a year and a half or so when this computer becomes my experiment
bed.
= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote:
the duron 600s are going for about 75 USD right now. The Asus A7v runs
about
160. fairly affordable as far as brand new
. ;-)
Patti
Registered Linux User #184611
Original Message
On 9/13/00, 2:18:01 PM, Abe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
regarding RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]:
your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. It
crawls on
384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote:
no. maybe in a year and a half or so when this computer becomes my experiment
bed.
u can always unclock your duron. i would overclock it if i was
u. with the motherboard u have i believe it is great for overclocking.
= Original Message From
Abe...what's this thing you do with seti? It sounds really interesting.
--
Mark
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** =\/= message...|
What is it about Star Office that makes it so stinkin slow anyway?
--
Mark
** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299
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** =\/= message...| Registered
Seti@home its a distributed computing thing. You go to
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
and download a utility that runs on your computer when you are not using it.
What it does is crunch the data that the SETI program has collected for signs
of intelligent life (organized signals). Its
: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
patrick wrote:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote:
This is true about overclocking destroying hardware. Some chips can't
even
run stably at their intended clockspeed. Intel's PIII 1.3GHz had so
many
bloody problems they finally concluded the only
yes but why? My machine never crashes and its on 24/7 with extremely heavy
use.
I have half-life/quake3/unreal tournament marathons over here where I play on
my computer while it hosts for 5-12 people. I do that twice or three times a
week for 3-12 hours at a time. The machine just grins
I always joke that its written entirely in Java...
= Original Message From Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
What is it about Star Office that makes it so stinkin slow anyway?
--
Mark
** =/\= No Penguins were
go to www.pricewatch.com or www.shopper.com and I think you can find the
pair for about us$215
- Original Message -
From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
the
stable at 900MHz, dude! I'd think about it!
- Original Message -
From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
no. maybe in a year and a half or so when this computer
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regarding RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]:
your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. It
crawls on
384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have a smoke, read the
newspaper,
cook some dinner, Hey! the splash screen is up on the screen
I generally canabalize from my old computer what I can when I build a new one.
When I get enough left overs to make a complete system I do.
Right now I've got my new system (duron 600 based) my most recent system
(K6-III 400 based) and my first computer (NexGen P-110 based) all running.
The
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, you wrote:
I generally canabalize from my old computer what I can when I build a new one.
When I get enough left overs to make a complete system I do.
Right now I've got my new system (duron 600 based) my most recent system
(K6-III 400 based) and my first computer
What in the world would one do with all that RAM? I can half understand
having that much processor, but on a machine that you're not using as a
server I can't figure what all that RAM would be good for other than just
sitting there and being ALOT of RAM. Poor little programs would get lost
in all
Linux is fast with 128 megs. It is much faster with
256 and when you put 384 in it really starts to cook.
I imagine that a 'hammer with a gig of ram would
pretty much do everything right as the thought to do
it first crossed your mind.
Imagine a world where X and netscape don't push you
into
yea, it sounds awesome. Imagine the software bloat that will be
possible..
Abe
= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, you wrote:
I generally canabalize from my old computer what I can when I build a new
one.
When I get enough left overs to make a
Dacia and AzureRose wrote:
Linux is fast with 128 megs. It is much faster with
256 and when you put 384 in it really starts to cook.
I imagine that a 'hammer with a gig of ram would
pretty much do everything right as the thought to do
it first crossed your mind.
Imagine a world where X
hahahahahahaha
Amen Sister!
Abe
= Original Message From Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Dacia and AzureRose wrote:
Linux is fast with 128 megs. It is much faster with
256 and when you put 384 in it really starts to cook.
I imagine that a 'hammer with a gig of ram would
patrick wrote:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote:
This is true about overclocking destroying hardware. Some chips can't even
run stably at their intended clockspeed. Intel's PIII 1.3GHz had so many
bloody problems they finally concluded the only way to get it to run cool
enough as well
ber 05, 2000 7:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
yep and that is also why people can overclock their RAM CPU's without out
right destroying them. The hard ware tends to be rated conservatively
because
it will last longer if it is used at less t
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
NO, that is incorrect. That statement is a myth promoted through
ignorance.
I've seen enough destroyed product from overclockers - that I can stand
straight and tall and tell you bluntly
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote:
This is true about overclocking destroying hardware. Some chips can't even
run stably at their intended clockspeed. Intel's PIII 1.3GHz had so many
bloody problems they finally concluded the only way to get it to run cool
enough as well as stably was to
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
NO, that is incorrect. That statement is a myth promoted through
ignorance.
I've seen enough destroyed product from overclockers - that I can stand
straigh
from what I've read about that chip it was actually a factory overclocked chip
to begin with. When it turned out to be reallyy unstable they just set it
back to its original speed rating which was around 800 or 900 mhz.
= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
This is true about
very good point.
= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote:
This is true about overclocking destroying hardware. Some chips can't even
run stably at their intended clockspeed. Intel's PIII 1.3GHz had so many
bloody problems they finally concluded
With the release of the 760 chip from AMD, Athlons will use DDRAM.
Jason Pierce
*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***
On 09|04|2000| at 07|55 PM| Abe wrote:
Ras far as I know there are no athlon motherboards that actually can use
RDRAM.
R From my research I'm pretty sure that RDRAM is
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Subject: RE: [newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100
There's a review in (or linked from, I forget which) LWN--Linux
Weekly News--by theDukeofURL about running Abit's Gentus Linux,
ver 3.0, on a KA7-100 board. Apparently the installation went
reasonably smoothly. I'll find out for myself
yep and that is also why people can overclock their RAM CPU's without out
right destroying them. The hard ware tends to be rated conservatively because
it will last longer if it is used at less then 100% of capacity.
= Original Message From "John A. MacLaughlin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xtests.org/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.cgi?action=ReadBID=
9TID=7
Cheers,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
patrick
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 8:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
Abe wr
There's a review in (or linked from, I forget which) LWN--Linux
Weekly News--by theDukeofURL about running Abit's Gentus Linux,
ver 3.0, on a KA7-100 board. Apparently the installation went
reasonably smoothly. I'll find out for myself pretty soon--I
just bought one of those boards, and it
as far as I know there are no athlon motherboards that actually can use RDRAM.
From my research I'm pretty sure that RDRAM is Intels and Rambus's baby and
even Intel is having second thoughts. AMD's web site recommends high quality
pc-100 or pc-133 ram.
Abe
= Original Message From
I'm not having any problems. My old box was an AMD K6III-400. I took the ram
out of my asus p5a and put it in my asus A7V and everything runs great. It is
not brand name ram. However, all 384 megs were bought in the past 10 months.
If your ram is appreciable older then that you might have
"Scott Adamson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone managed to get any distro to work with an AMD Athlon Thunderbird
an Abit KA7-100 motherboard ? machine runs windows NT fine, installs Redhat,
but it fails with a kernel panic when trying to start for the first time,
Gentus Linux ( rebadged
I built an Athlon system about 3-4 months ago and started out with the Abit
motherboard which would NOT work even after trying 2 different boards. I
switched to Asus K7V and it works great! I haven't really heard anything
good about the onboard ATA100 nor abit for Athlon. My system is as
Abe wrote:
I'm running mandrake 7.1 on a Duron 600 with ASUS A7V motherboard. I did the
install myself. 7.1 installed perfectly on my system. Perhaps it is the Abit
board that is causing the problems? The other possible issue is power supply
and RAM. The Athlon series want a high
Abe wrote:
I'm running mandrake 7.1 on a Duron 600 with ASUS A7V motherboard. I did the
install myself. 7.1 installed perfectly on my system. Perhaps it is the Abit
board that is causing the problems? The other possible issue is power supply
and RAM. The Athlon series want a high
Some of the sites I have seen/read suggest that an Athlon runs happier with
RDRam
Another $0.02 worth...:)
Jaguar
"Ronald J. Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Abe wrote:
I'm running mandrake 7.1 on a Duron 600 with ASUS A7V motherboard. I did
the
install myself. 7.1 installed perfectly on
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