Re: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Mike Hays
I had to stop the other day to find out what song was playing on a local station cos it sounded almost "alt.country." Turned out to be the latest Dixie Chicks single. Anyone else heard that one? Jim, smilin' Tonight the Heartache's on Me, cut by numerous artists in the last few years

Re: Tom Petty's roots are showing (real twangy)

1999-04-22 Thread Jon E. Johnson
John Friedman writes: Jon Johnson: *One* guitar player?!?!?! Hell, John, why don't you just tell us they were recruiting for the Socialist Worker's Party while you're at it? Hm, if that's a sarcastic remark, which is cool, my guess is that you're not familiar w/Molly Hatchet.

Re: Tom Petty's roots are showing (real twangy)

1999-04-22 Thread JP Riedie
I want insight into why the only people I meet wh0 hope for a resurgence of "Southern Rock" are all from north of Virginia ( a state still quite suspect) John Friedman writes: Jon Johnson: *One* guitar player?!?!?! Hell, John, why don't you just tell us they were recruiting for the

Re: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread JP Riedie
Pushing aside the arbitrary (and silly) nature of this shellgame, tell me why it shouldn't be: Perry Farrell (who commercialized the most interesting aspects of Nirvana's "revolution") Dr. Dre (who made rap safe for white people; God bless Eminem) U2 (who legitimized dance music for young

Re: Tom Petty's roots are showing (real twangy)

1999-04-22 Thread William T. Cocke
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:57:09 -0500 JP Riedie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want insight into why the only people I meet wh0 hope for a resurgence of "Southern Rock" are all from north of Virginia ( a state still quite suspect) JP, you're kidding, right? Man, Virginia *is* the South and I'll

Re: Captain Beefheart (re:Welfare Music)

1999-04-22 Thread William T. Cocke
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:18:42 -0400 vgs399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, I think that was "eight octane" range g Actually, Van Vliet's stuff always went right over my head, sorry to say. My husband loves "Trout Mask Replica" to this day; still goes over my head though. I just put "Moonlight

Re: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread William T. Cocke
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:24:00 PDT Greg Harness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought your candidate had already won and been declared AOTD months ago. This new little thread is nothing more than a post-mortem on a de facto decision, right? AOTD will retain his title. Umm, I musta missed that

RE: Tom Petty's roots are showing (real twangy)

1999-04-22 Thread Matt Benz
Saw Marshall Crenshaw open a show at the Paradise in '92 with a bitchin' cover of "Flirtin' With Disaster," by the way. [Matt Benz] He opened his Columbus, probably same tour, with that song. Didn't Holsapple Stamey open up for this tour? And Mitch Easter was playing, I

RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
You thought Vince Gill, right? And still do. Jon Weisberger, Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger

Southern Rock Lives

1999-04-22 Thread Marie Arsenault
Jon Johnson wrote: keep expecting to see a southern rock revival at some point, though despite noble attempts by the likes of Raging Slab and Pride and Glory, I don't think it's gonna happen. Pumpskully is proudly and nobly carrying the torch. I think they're based in KY, but they play

Kenny Chesney correction

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
Iin response to Linda's query, I contrasted Chesney's new album, Everywhere I Go, with what I thought was the album before that, I Will Stand (the one with "That's Why I'm Here"). There's another one, though, in between, 1998's You And Me, that's pretty good, though I still haven't decided

CST Clip - Kelly Willis/Bruce Robison at JD's Last Night

1999-04-22 Thread KATIEJOM
Hi folks, Here's what you missed if you weren't at JD's! Both were excellent, but, Bruce's songwriting and singing is killer. "Desperately" still being my favorite on "Wrapped." Kelly dipped back into her repertoire for "River of Love" (shout from moi!) which she said they hadn't been doing

Re: Tom Petty's roots are showing (real twangy)

1999-04-22 Thread john friedman
JP Riedie queries: I want insight into why the only people I meet wh0 hope for a resurgence of "Southern Rock" are all from north of Virginia ( a state still quite suspect) Never thought about it, but maybe it's the sameway mallrats from utah dig gangsta rap. Is southern rock yet another

Re: Doo Rag

1999-04-22 Thread Jennifer Sperandeo
the Bob Log record is more fun than seeing him live. Its on that cool Fat Possum label (RL Burnside, T Model Ford, etc) - thru Epitaph nowadays I believe...xojns -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "passenger side" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Doo Rag Date: Wed, Apr 21, 1999, 5:25 PM

Tom Waits in LA Weekly

1999-04-22 Thread jon_erik
It's a bit long to post here, but there's a nice piece on Tom Waits that can be found in this week's "LA Weekly" at http://www.laweekly.com/ink/99/22/music-lloyd.shtml. --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread Jennifer Sperandeo
Kurt Cobain by a country mile. There are very few things Rolling Stone gets right but this is one of them. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "passenger side" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Artist of the Decade? Date: Wed, Apr 21, 1999, 6:48 PM In a message dated 4/21/99 3:00:28 PM Pacific

Re: Captain Beefheart (re:Welfare Music)

1999-04-22 Thread Marie Arsenault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My husband loves Trout Mask Replica to this day; still goes over my head though. William Cocke wrote: I just put Moonlight on Vermont on a mixed tape and damn if it didn't work perfectly. Some of the most whacked out skronky shit ever recorded. I still can't listen

Re: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread David Cantwell
At 10:28 PM 4/21/99 -0700, Jerry wrote: I found Nirvana to be way to raw and underproduced for my liking Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. As someone who also appreciates big production, let this fellow traveler just reassure you that Nevermind, despite the culty punk expectations it carries, was...PRODUCED

FW: Podunk Fest email flyer

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
For you New England types... -Original Message- From: Bluegrass music discussion. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Lynch Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Podunk Fest "email flyer" Here's an email flyer for those of you recently

software help

1999-04-22 Thread Marie Arsenault
Sorry for the off-topic post, but I need to decode some email attachments. I know there's FreeWare out there for this purpose. Anyone know where I can find it? I use a PC. Off-list replies, please! Thanks, marie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Don Yates
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Terry A. Smith wrote: pps it's been a great week; discovered via the library, Solomon Burke and Lloyd Price. How'd I ripen into my 40s without having heard these guys? Mysteries of life. Yeah, right -- it's 'cuz you live in that cultural backwater known as the American

RE: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Don Yates
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to add that I hope Mike is right with his observation that some country stations are leaning towards actually playing country music again. I had to stop the other day to find out what song was playing on a local station cos it sounded

Re: Townes Far Cry from Dead?

1999-04-22 Thread Dutch
I just heard an advance of the CD and it rocks. -- From: Kim Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Townes "Far Cry from Dead"? Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 10:18 PM This is a record coming out on Arista/Austin very soon. They were songs

Re: CST Clip - Kelly Willis/Bruce Robison at JD's Last Night

1999-04-22 Thread Morgan Keating
Kate: Here's what you missed if you weren't at JD's! Both were excellent, but, Bruce's songwriting and singing is killer. "Desperately" still being my favorite on "Wrapped." Kelly dipped back into her repertoire for "River of Love" (shout from moi!) which she said they hadn't been doing for

Radney Foster

1999-04-22 Thread john friedman
Saw that Radney is playing in NYC next week. Several questions come to mind: -is this in support of a new album? -is this an industry gig to get re-signed? -any idea who his band is? Thanks, John ___ Get Free Email and Do More

Dixie Chicks/Joy Lynn White song

1999-04-22 Thread kevin . fredette
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turned out to be the latest Dixie Chicks single. Anyone else heard that one? And Don said: I haven't heard it yet, but I love Joy Lynn's version of it. As a Joy Lynn White fan who doesn't listen to the Dixie Chicks (or radio in general, except NPR),

Re: Dixie Chicks/Joy Lynn White song

1999-04-22 Thread Don Yates
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a Joy Lynn White fan who doesn't listen to the Dixie Chicks (or radio in general, except NPR), I'm curious - what song are we talking about? "Tonight The Heartache's On Me"

RE: Captain Beefheart (re:Welfare Music)

1999-04-22 Thread Matt Benz
A Captain Beefheart subject heading on P2. I've been hoping that this day wouldn't arrive. It must be some kind of sign. And not a good one. [Matt Benz] And Marie wins the best Dave Purcell rant award, tho we could've used a few more profanities, ma'am.

RE: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
I want to add that I hope Mike is right with his observation that some country stations are leaning towards actually playing country music again. I had to stop the other day to find out what song was playing on a local station cos it sounded almost "alt.country." Turned out to be the

Country radio

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
Remember, what drives the format (like any other commercial one) is ratings, which, it has been pointed out (most recently by Mike Hays), have been going down, especially for HNC-oriented stations, as their target audience grows disaffected. The obvious remedies for station owners are 1) abandon

RE: Set those VCRs

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
TNN also has Bob Wills feature at 8 p.m... That's EDT, BTW. It's a rerun of the Life And Times Of show, and it's pretty good. Jon Weisberger, Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger

RE: Captain Beefheart (re:Welfare Music)

1999-04-22 Thread Marie Arsenault
A Captain Beefheart subject heading on P2. I've been hoping that this day wouldn't arrive. It must be some kind of sign. And not a good one. [Matt Benz] tho we could've used a few more profanities, ma'am. Well, I'm a lady, damnit. Cut me some slack. g marie

Summer Teething (was Wilco @ Pearl Street)

1999-04-22 Thread Jeff Sohn
In all fairness I should give Summer Teeth a good listening before passing judgement BUT many of the songs Monday night in concert seem to be mere exercises in pop song writing. New material is hard enough to get across to an audience but IMO when pop doesn't rock it can easily flat. And

Mitch's Dream Gig Becomes a Reality

1999-04-22 Thread Masonsod
Woo Hoo! Sunken Road will be warming up for Alejandro Escovedo on Friday, April 30 at the Magic Stick (4120 Woodward, Detroit, 313-833-9700). Tix available through Ticketmaster, blah, blah, blah. Any Qs, you can contact me. Mitch Matthews (still floating on a cloud) Gravel Train/Sunken Road

Re: Captain Beefheart (re:Welfare Music)

1999-04-22 Thread Brad Bechtel
Sorry to disagree with Marie, but Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band rocked my little part of the world in their own peculiar way. One of the first CDs I bought was "Trout Mask Replica", mostly to replace the LP that had grown scratched and worn. I do agree that most of his later output was

Clip: Scott Hendricks post-G*rth

1999-04-22 Thread jon_erik
http://www.nashscene.com/cgi-bin/articles.pl?browser=netscaperequest=Thi s_Week:Music:Industry The Virgin King Scott Hendricks talks about life after Garth By Beverly Keel On a rainy Wednesday morning, a relaxed, denim-clad Scott Hendricks eases into his morning of interviews and phone

RE: Summer Teething (was Wilco @ Pearl Street)

1999-04-22 Thread Matt Benz
-Original Message- From: Jeff Sohn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Beyond the unfamiliarity factor, the audience simply wanted the old Wilco back. Even the Mermaid Avenue constitutes as old Wilco these days. Not to say that the crowd didn't respond positively to some of ST but when the

Clip: Steve taylor (no twang, but interesting industry stuff nonetheless)

1999-04-22 Thread jon_erik
http://www.nashscene.com/cgi-bin/articles.pl?browser=netscaperequest=Thi s_Week:Cover_Story Would You Trust This Man With a Record Company? Christian music iconoclast Steve Taylor finds unexpected mainstream success By Rob Simbeck, photos by Ben Pearson Steve Taylor may not be the last

Re: Captain BeefheartTom Waits

1999-04-22 Thread lance davis
Man, I can't even find the words to express how much I hate Beefheart. I know hate is a strong word, but it's really not strong enough. Marie Captain Beefheart was and is a unique character. Brad If nothing else, Captain Beefheart paved the way for his musical superior, Tom Waits. Or, maybe I

Re: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread Tar Hut Records
here's the piece Don's talking about: Ruminations on SXSW '99 and the "Alt.Country" phenomenon from an insiders perspective (and no, it's not me) : Well another SXSW has come and gone. And sure I saw a few good bands and hung out with old friends, but overall I am left with a really bad taste

Crappy alt-country at SXSW (was Re: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread Don Yates
If you were to ask any hard working country musician the difference they would tell you its all about the sincerity of the performer. Any 99% percent of these bands got no heart. And this is the only part of the anonymous diatribe that I might disagree with, or at least amend. It's not

Re: Clip: Scott Hendricks post-G*rth

1999-04-22 Thread William F. Silvers
Jon J. clipped, I snipped: Scott Hendricks Ironically, Hendricks had every reason to think that he and Brooks might get along. "I mistakenly believed that there was something common there because we grew up 50 miles from each other," he remembers. "We used to play each other's high school

Clip: Mandy B, Charles Kim

1999-04-22 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring
Another twangy Margasak column. http://www.chireader.com/hitsville/990423.html Pop Goes the Country Mandy Barnett grew up in Cumberland County, Tennessee, and by age ten was singing her summers away at Dollywood. She entertained at political rallies for both Lamar Alexander and Al Gore, hit

Re: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread Dave Purcell
Mark Rubin spit: These "alt-country" showcases were packed with scenesters dressed up like they were going to a Hee-Haw theme party. Women in pig-tails and guys in spray painted straw hats that would surely get their asses kicked in an actual honky-tonk. Funny...I was at a real country

Re: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread Don Yates
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Dave Purcell wrote: Nice rant, Mark. Just to clarify, it wasn't written by Mr. Rubin (or so he sez, and I don't see any reason to doubt him). He attributed it to an anonymous "insider."--don

Re: Crappy alt-country at SXSW (was Re: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread Ph. Barnard
Yeah, Don I can agree with most of this critique in general terms, until we get to the sincerity bit. As I've said so many times, the "sincerity" argument never gets it for me. But I'm certainly all for more musicianship and less scenester 'tude --junior

Re: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Terry A. Smith
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Terry A. Smith wrote: pps it's been a great week; discovered via the library, Solomon Burke and Lloyd Price. How'd I ripen into my 40s without having heard these guys? Mysteries of life. Then Don: Yeah, right -- it's 'cuz you live in that cultural backwater

Re: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread William F. Silvers
Don Yates wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, M Rubin wrote: Just added an essay on the "Alt.Country" showings at the recent SXSW conference on my homepages, in case anyone was interested. http://markrubin.com Y'all might do well to check out that provocative li'l essay. It brings up the

RE: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
I've got to say, though, I like "Who (who will it be)" the best. Is that an old tune? With a co-publisher named "Twenty Second Century Music," I doubt it g. The definite oldies are "I've Got A Right To Cry" (Hank Jr.), "Give Myself A Party" (Don Gibson), "Trademark" (Carl Smith), "Falling,

Re: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Friskics
In a message dated 4/22/99 12:57:37 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I did want to ask, seriously, which tunes on her new record are the classics and which are the newly written ones...I've got to say, though, I like "Who (who will it be)" the best. Is that an old

Back in San Fran

1999-04-22 Thread RanchRecs
Hey all: Owen here, from Ranchero Records and Red Meat. We're back from our Midwest/Southeast jaunt, and we had a great time. It was nice to meet some people from the list; thanks for coming and checking Red Meat out. And thanks especially to Kelly Kessler, who had us play her "Honky Tonk

SXSW stuff

1999-04-22 Thread James Gerard Roll
I don't really think the guy had to name names, he certainly said enough to identify who he was talking about. Obviously not a big fan of insurgent/punk attitude. I would have to agree for the most part. ALthough there seems to be a market for this stuff . . . so some fans are diggin' it.

RE: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
Bill Silvers says: Like I said about pop music last week, there's always a lot more mediocre or worse bands than good or great ones. Do those bands, in whatever genre, drag that style of music down for the other people playing it? What makes "the roots music movement" different? Anonymous

Re: Back in San Fran

1999-04-22 Thread Ph. Barnard
Red Meat do Atlanta: And that Atlanta show...fun fun fun! We played with the Ex-Husbands, who I never had heard before. And they absolutely rocked -- a fantastic band! If you live in the Southeast and haven't seen 'em, by all means go! Now! Now if we could just get them to come out

Re: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Ndubb
In a message dated 4/22/99 1:18:02 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Who" and "The Whispering Wind," both cowritten by l. russell brown (of "tie a yellow ribbon" fame) and pat mclaughlin, are the only two new ones on barnett's album. "Whispering Wind" is killing me, currently the

Wilco in Chicago

1999-04-22 Thread *Sometime to Return*
Hi, sorry to bother everyone, but I was wondering again if anyone has an extra ticket, or two, for this show...??? Please e-mail me if so. I can pay whatever. love, A/D [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Don Yates
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote: I've got to say, though, I like "Who (who will it be)" the best. Is that an old tune? With a co-publisher named "Twenty Second Century Music," I doubt it g. The definite oldies are "I've Got A Right To Cry" (Hank Jr.), "Give Myself A Party"

Re: SXSW stuff

1999-04-22 Thread Don Yates
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, James Gerard Roll wrote: I don't really think the guy had to name names, he certainly said enough to identify who he was talking about. Obviously not a big fan of insurgent/punk attitude. Perhaps. But the writer also made clear that combining country and rock isn't

RE: Summer Teething

1999-04-22 Thread Jeff Sohn
[Matt Benz] Ok, but how is this different from how audiences typically respond to an act that has several albums to its credit? Isn't the history of rock music littered with stories of bands trying to do something they find artistically different and pleasing, only to have the audience

Re: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Ndubb
In a message dated 4/22/99 1:30:26 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *Someone* here has to know who did the Boudleaux and Felice song ("Don't Forget To Cry"). Beck?

Re: Mandy B/ Dixie Chicks

1999-04-22 Thread Louise Kyme
David Cantwell wrote: At 12:04 PM 4/22/99 -0400, Jon wrote: I've heard it. It's a good, straight country shuffle; "nothing 'alt' about it" is right - you can hear a dozen or two like it any Saturday night on the Grand Ole Opry, and that's not a criticism. It will be interesting to see

Re: Back in San Fran

1999-04-22 Thread Tar Hut Records
They'll be out west soon enoughwe promise. -Original Message- From: Ph. Barnard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 2:29 PM Subject: Re: Back in San Fran Red Meat do Atlanta: And that Atlanta show...fun fun fun! We played

Re: SXSW stuff

1999-04-22 Thread Dave Purcell
Jim Roll wrote: There was a comment made in the (SXSW Saturday??) Statesman by the columnest on the inside cover, that named CHicago as a highly over-rated music scene in that he had never heard such bad singing and fake accents,etc. I think he named Freakwater among others . . Yep, I've

Re: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread Jerry Curry
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, David Cantwell wrote: Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. As someone who also appreciates big production, let this fellow traveler just reassure you that Nevermind, despite the culty punk expectations it carries, was...PRODUCED OUT THE ASS Anyone David et al. Thanks for the

RE: Clip: Mandy B, Charles Kim

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
The label sent the album's first single only to Americana and "nonreporting" country stations... Yeah, I meant to mention that after I read it on a Barnett-devoted website last night. That might account for its non-appearance on the Billboard chart (that's who the nonreporting stations don't

RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread SSLONE
Jerry Curry writes: Remember Fire Town anyone? Absolutely. Decent first album with a classic song in "Carry the Torch" and a second album ("The Good Life") that's solid all the way through. Hey maybe if the next Garbage album flops, we can look forward to a Fire Town reunion! --Slonedog

Hey, Krueg! (was Re: Artist of the Decade?)

1999-04-22 Thread Dave Purcell
Jerry Curry wrote: Always like Mr. Vig. Remember Fire Town anyone? This should bring The Krueg out of hiding. Seems I remember some stories about Tom snorting coke with Butch and Fire Town or some such. Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music:

Re: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread Ndubb
I think perhaps, Cobain's voice spoiled the overall sound for me and that's why I gave the record such short shrift. Wow, I tend Cobain's voice *makes* the record. Someone once called him the "human Marshall stack." I couldn't have put it any better. One of the best rock voices to ever

Re: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread louicm
Jeez, Kip, you're almost as easy to bait as Curry.g--don Waddaya mean, *almost* g Naw, I knew what Yates was up to. But I had just gotten through defending the Midwest to a friend of mine, so I was already in battle fatigues and figured I'd play along.

Re: Captain Beefheart (re:Welfare Music)

1999-04-22 Thread William T. Cocke
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:28:18 -0500 Marie Arsenault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man, I can't even find the words to express how much I hate Beefheart. I know hate is a strong word, but it's really not strong enough. I'd rather be forced to listen to Dave Matthews for all eternity through

Re: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Jerry Curry
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the son of Randy "Looking Out For #1" Bachmann, yes? Yup... JC

Re: Single Most Influential

1999-04-22 Thread David Cantwell
At 07:48 PM 4/21/99 -0400, Carl wrote: Not to displace anything in David's definitive Top 4 - (sideline: except that I'm not quite convinced we've covered soul properly in the person of James Brown, whose influence vocally and rhythmically is definitive for

Re: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread David Cantwell
At 05:16 AM 4/22/99 -0500, JP dared us all to explain the artist of the decade should NOT be one of the following: Perry Farrell (who commercialized the most interesting aspects of Nirvana's "revolution") You mean, LEAST interesting, right? Dr. Dre Well, I nominated him myself, so I ain't

RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread JP Riedie
Seriously - It's Dr. Dre. With NWA he took rap music from party music to street poetry with a documentarian stance. Unlike Public Enemy he got his message across without being pedantic. This legitimized "gangsta" rap to the critical establishment AND opened the door for hip-hop's dominance of

Re: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread john friedman
Unfortunately, I think we're gonna have to include Garth here. Hie's touched alot of lives and his sales alone prove that. I think he's sold more records/discs than The Beatles or some unfathomable figure. As for most influential artist of all time you gotta include the "gloved one" In

Re: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread JP Riedie
Unfortunately, I think we're gonna have to include Garth here. Hie's touched alot of lives and his sales alone prove that. I think he's sold more records/discs than The Beatles or some unfathomable figure. Let's see if those records are selling thirty years from now. I don't think you get

RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread john friedman
On the rap tip, The Sugar Hill Gang pretty much invented it, so Also, for the 90's The Beasties deserve a shout out... -JF ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread JP Riedie
On the rap tip, The Sugar Hill Gang pretty much invented it, so Also, for the 90's The Beasties deserve a shout out... -JF The Beasties have made a couple of great records. But they have more in common with Pearl Jam than with any rap artist. You can make rap music and still have no

RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread David Cantwell
At 03:08 PM 4/22/99 -0500, JP wrote in defense of Dre: With NWA he took rap music from party music to street poetry with a documentarian stance. Unlike Public Enemy he got his message across without being pedantic. This legitimized "gangsta" rap to the critical establishment AND opened the

RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread SSLONE
JPRiedie writes: Don't be silly. Their most mature and compelling work is Achtung Baby. 1991 If anything, I think U2 has gotten less "mature" during the 90s. Like REM, they seem bent on making fun of themselves to less than hilarious effect. In the 80s, sure they were pretentious, but at

RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread JP Riedie
In my dream Michael jackson grew up, maturing into a soulman a la Marvin Gaye. No surgery, no wierdness. Er, ah, "a la Marvin Gaye" and "no weirdness" don't belong in the same paragraph. Good point. but Marvin was more "troubled" than "weird". Still, I hope you got my drift.

Re: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread john friedman
Unfortunately, I think we're gonna have to include Garth here. I don't think you get considered artist of the decade for your marketing skill alone. As much as I don't like him, from a marketing vantage you just don't sell that much of *anything* unless you've struck a chord or gulp, a

The Blacks on Chic-a-Go-Go

1999-04-22 Thread Kelly Hogan
Howdy folks -- just a note about our Blacks making the scene on Chic-a-Go-Go this weekend. Your chance to be on TV, albeit public access TV. XO Hogan %% CHIC A GO GO! %%% Catch "WE RAGAZZI" and "THE BLACKS" on the best cable access show ever! From co-producer Jackie

Re: Artist of the Decade/singles/influence

1999-04-22 Thread cwilson
The discussion here breaks down along the atomization of markets since the mid80s, so it makes sense to say that Gill, Dre, Malkmus (Pavement does make sense as the key 90s indie band, though only because they democratized Sonic Youth's late-80s innovations) and the

Re: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread Svb442
In a message dated 4/22/99 3:54:58 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh yeah, Ray Davies claimed to have invented heavy metal, so... nope. link wray did.

sv 12/31/98 10/21/95 cdr shows

1999-04-22 Thread Kevin Reed
whoever is intersted in these shows, and 10/8/98, I will burn for whoever wants a copy, traders, or just people starting a live collection, I needed the same thing to start, so anyway. email me at the address down there, not here on the list. We can do blanks and postage, or just trade, whateva.

Most albums sold, per RIAA

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
RIAA's searchable gold/platinum database seems to be dead for the moment, but here's a list of the best-selling artists, with millions of units certified (a couple of pleasant surprises in there, notably George Strait and Alan Jackson): BEATLES, THE 106.03 BROOKS, GARTH 89 LED ZEPPELIN 69.27

RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread David Cantwell
At 03:46 PM 4/22/99 -0500, JP wrote: Achtung Baby! is a deathly serious record. It's also their most literate and musical. You know, in some ways this is probably right. I'd nominate either Achtung or Joshua Tree as their best over all albums. But, as far as artist of the 90s goes, Achtung is

Re: Artist of the Decade/singles/influence

1999-04-22 Thread David Cantwell
At 05:00 PM 4/22/99 -0400, Carl wrote: HOWEVER: Your question about whether Aretha rather than Joni was the key gender-revolutionary in sixties pop was already creeping into my head as I wrote that last post. I'd certainly *prefer* to say it was Aretha - but I wonder if

Clip- Music Scene

1999-04-22 Thread William F. Silvers
From this week's Riverfront Times. Does anybody remember this show or seen these vids? It sounds too cool. MAKING THE SCENE BY ROBERT HUNT Call it laziness, call it spring fever, call it a bad dose of pop culture clouding my senses, but the stacks of new video releases were getting

Re: Most albums sold, per RIAA

1999-04-22 Thread Friskics
In a message dated 4/22/99 4:15:08 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RIAA's searchable gold/platinum database seems to be dead for the moment, but here's a list of the best-selling artists, with millions of units certified (a couple of pleasant surprises in there, notably

Re: Most albums sold, per RIAA

1999-04-22 Thread KATIEJOM
In a message dated 4/22/1999 5:15:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BROOKS, GARTH 89 PRESLEY, ELVIS 50.1 OK...think about this for a minute! Brooks has sold nearly twice as much as Elvis in 1/4 the time. Now that's a marketing machine! K.

RE: Artist of the Decade/singles/influence

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
As well, Nirvana combined quality and commercial success at an incomparable level for the decade - if The Key had sold like a Garth Brooks album, Jon W's assertion would hold up better, methinks. If we're talking about the decade, I don't know that Nirvana's sold more albums than Gill; the RIAA

RE: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread Geff King
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote: As for why the "roots music movement" is different in this regard, the short answer, IMO, is unfamiliarity. People's exposure to bluegrass, or alt.country, for instance, is a lot smaller and a lot chancier, hence the greater likelihood that

Re: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread M Rubin
Yates opines: Anyway, it's too bad the person who wrote that essay spent so much time with the cartoon crowd down there -- he/she must've missed James Hand, Justin Trevino, Don Walser, Paul Burch, Dale Watson and all the other hardcore traditionalists types that played this year.--don Ah, but

RE: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger
As for why the "roots music movement" is different in this regard, the short answer, IMO, is unfamiliarity. People's exposure to bluegrass, or alt.country, for instance, is a lot smaller and a lot chancier, hence the greater likelihood that hearing someone who, pardon my French, sucks

Re: Most albums sold, per RIAA

1999-04-22 Thread jon byrd
Apples and oranges, folks. Elvis sold singles in a singles world with far less than 5 billion in it. Go figure, again. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/22/1999 5:15:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BROOKS, GARTH 89 PRESLEY, ELVIS 50.1 OK...think

Re: Artist of the Decade/singles/influence

1999-04-22 Thread JP Riedie
Now that's an erudite summation. But I still can't get my head around Cobain as artist of the decade. His creative achievement, though jarring and influential, doesn't compare to that of the other serious contenders. Besides, the eight year old who runs my house, his seventeen year old

RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread john friedman
The Beasties have made a couple of great records. But they have more in common with Pearl Jam than with any rap artist. You can make rap music and still have no idea what hip-hop is. The Tibetan concerts are alterna fests because that's the Beasties audience. They have zero influence on

Re: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread Don Yates
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, M Rubin wrote: Ah, but that's the point. Those artists aren't "alt." anything. They are country and western artists, period. Let's get that established once and for all. Oh, I'm well aware of that -- I was just pointing out that it seemed silly for our anonymous

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