support service to provide ... and I still need OHM as an option ...
I need to get this machine configured before shipping over to the data
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well unless that geometry can be completely
isolated. Trying to use the same way elements for different objects in
different databases does not work :(
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is farmland. trying to fill that with blocks of landcover is what seems
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it should be
drawn, but an imaginary link just showing water flow should not be
necessary? Any routing process should be able to deduce the relation,
there is no need to draw it.
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to the surrounding areas
and I read THAT page as saying landuse=farm is not valid.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarm has so few entries
tagged that I am sure it could be 'retired' now?
As others have said - generally covering large areas as 'farmland' is
not helping anybody ...
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at the bottom of the page and seeing '69' ...
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gives you an idea of the backlog just with the primary places
information for the UK and that is only the tip of the iceberg :( I've
been promised several time over the last years that Broadway will be
moved back to Worcestershire but with no actual change.
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for any routing system.
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they have some arbitrary boundary through the middle of farmland.
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On 23/07/15 17:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
From a UK point of view there nothing wrong with
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/52.1106/-2.0754 and certainly
that is what is needed for any routing system.
Yes, this part of map is not bad. I am
need to get the tile server live first
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On 25/08/15 17:24, Tom MacWright wrote:
It seems like the only thing you're contributing is negativity.
http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/OSM+Development
Not that I've got all the latest crib sheets working yet :(
Last system I had fully functional was on an SUSE 12.3
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ake slip road onto Axx'
and that in my book is where the _link information has an important
element but could also be a second tag. However like
'highway=residential', 'highway=trunk_link' is a shorthand that works at
many levels ... but should the link be tagged for the road it provides
the
ne? As with the current discussion, key
elements need a few ground rules, but that does not prevent additional
data being added via extra tags. The rule about not tagging for renderer
or router works both ways since one may need to add information that
can't easily be accessed
looking to
extend that into the icon map for my own rendering. While the styling
for OSM is quite complicated it can easily be broken down into
manageable elements such as road colours, or icon library, so switching
elements is not particularly difficult once one has a working local
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als may well have missed numerous examples of where
something that looks good for a few limited examples fails in the wider
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mall or retail premise, and once again, the amenity provided is
the job function. The estate agent is next to the chemist's shop in the
same building, so tag the building 'retail', and each unit with is
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> * Major rewrite of road and railway rendering, as part of Mateusz
> Konieczny's Google Summer of Code project. See
BUGGER I still haven’t got the backup system working and now all my UK
stuff is screwed up :(
This really does not work!
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eneral agreement for the
change.
But I have no doubt other sources will become live if the change goes
ahead with their own style of map key ...
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k=v makes perfect sense ...
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beyond original use.
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to dust
control. 'dirt' tends to imply a dusty surface, something one would not
expect with a better managed soil surface.
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e associated
with both dust and more solid compaction of the surface layer. So while
'ground' may be a useful holdall where the exact nature is not known,
but it is not a mechanically finished surface, it should be replaced
with a more accurate designation for which 'dirt' is simply another
ambiguous
ain valid in the other. The current
OHM is simply a scratch pad to store isolated historic material. It does
not have any of the history currently being created daily in the main
database. 'It get deleted' is the very history that someone has spent a
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documented in the
change log, so all we are talking about is semantics and allowing a view
of the data that can be rendered using the existing tools.
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no other indication it ever existed.
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ession of it and rail routes
are one of those documented exceptions.
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al of record.
And in the UK you just buy a copy of the Electoral Register ...
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ced that there should be
some more history prior to that date since the 2012 data already
contains the planed improvements to the junction.
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objects so
even the fact that a page has an icon does not mean you will see it on
the map you are looking at.
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stcode is added here so that searches can be done properly. Just
because a post has not been put in the ground to identify a location,
the location still exists if properly documented.
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e stuff to correct
the mistakes. I have tried simply hiding the data which works around
here, but another area nearer London is obviously using a different tag
to 'farmland' ... just not identified yet what else to ignore.
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nclude the buildings within the
area in the relation? Which is why I've stopped at just drawing boundary
types so far. Actually the property boundaries on our road include the
area of grass outside the front fence, but not the path which is another
detail not yet added ...
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s rebuilt and what replaced is exactly the sort of
data that should be recorded.
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use the 'Subedge' second half and that incudes
what started the fun ... the map showing the 'Weston Subedge Halt' on
the old railway ;)
I'm asking both parish clerks just what the current legal position is,
but mapping what you see does not help.
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On 11/09/15 01:27, Warin wrote:
> I'll be putting a block on any more messages with the subject containing
> Fw:important
The buggers are using several subjects, multiple probably hacked relay
sites, but all ending at the same crap. Just need that site closing down?
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'namespace'!
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is a current item on my own pet 'abandoned railway' ... and the
preserved railway is fast approaching from he south ...
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ed to get a
proper tile cache working.
But what I do have working shows in house rendering is not at all
difficult. Just need to nail all the cludges in a simple to roll package
of tools?
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some people think should be added directly to the
database and the Starbucks finder is a particularly good example!
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', but of cause the 'holland'
search needs to be global ;)
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to gauge if you don't know what the
user expects to see?
(An the pigging change of motorway colour really does not help a new
user in the UK! One can not readily distinguish the motorways around
Birmingham)
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that both already have their own address entries anyway?
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ich I was hoping to make live to produce a UK
style service, but currently only the OSRM layer is working fully. I'm
at the pink square stage on the tile server ... and need to pay the
bills so don't have time to 'start again' with a new framework.
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cle if the smartcode goes down to
individual postal addresses, or just the building?
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ou can convert that TO a
w3w title. If the mapping system is only accurate to 10mts your android
drone has a selection of targets. I've just looked up my own address in
the UK and depending on which map overlay I select I got four different
answers, some the next door addresses.
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an be identified. As has already been
pointed out on the discussions on these droids, it only works when there
is a single story dwelling. Add 100 flats with one front door on a busy
street ... but personally I think there will be more losses due to
droids being intercepted in flight? :)
>
en) third-party solution ?
And of cause why rely on some optical barcode marking when a wireless
based tag would be better. May need to change the battery every few
years, but it only need to be in receive mode until a drone is in range
... with a button to 'sync' location with base ...
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f the secondary tagging to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Driver and the like.
But where lakes - natural and man-made - have navigation routes through
many of the waterway tags also apply but this has been another area of
discussion to map the actual routes across the water a
leisure=marina without any agreement as to just what area that should cover.
It's the insistence that water only applies to natural elements which
just does not fit properly, and man_made=reservoir while much more
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On 10/03/16 17:46, Philip Barnes wrote:
> You will also need to consider bus lanes as well.
Complicated by selective operating times and contraflow problems :)
I got caught out by that going to SOTM at Birmingham ... OSMAND was
telling me where to turn ...
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k this third party activity is helpful to
> OSM! In the first instance I have no intention of contributing to
> bitcoin since I think it's main reason for existence is to hid scammers
> and until that secrecy is removed ... I will not be signing up ...
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and until that secrecy is removed ... I will not be signing up ...
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y fails to display
properly ... but here is not the place to be complaining :)
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as simple as identifying the local time given some sort
of location identifier becomes unreliable when local variations of
language and custom are added in.
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oding system' for the physical location can be used to display the
raw numbers? But for readability, just as OLC does, one uses the town
and country and simply provide a GPS location limited to that area. A
bit like 'national grid' in the UK
> Cheerio John
>
> On 11 Jul 2016 2:36 pm, "Lester
re elements may be additional to the postcode itself,
so 10 characters is never enough.
Open Location Code lacks the ability to handle multi-story housing. It
only gets you to the apartment block. This is an area where OSM still
needs some more work.
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> How about musical notation? We could sing our parcels to their
> destinations. ;-)
Or even more radical ... just use numbers for time and location :)
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atural=water should wrap what are quite clearly man made
waterway features just reinforces that and while the effects are small,
many parts of the world even 'coastline' is now a man made construction.
But the 'tags' list is probably the place to open a discussion on this
... not that I b
On 08/11/16 18:54, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> FWIW, I like the "-scape" suffix, e.g. OpenStreetscape:
Get's my vote Capital 'S' though OpenStreetScape
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> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk
> <mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> On 02/11/16 00:57, john whelan wrote:
> > If OSMand etc treat them differently then we may not be show
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the android phone, something that is becoming
worse rather than better. Even driving down the M5 I get gaps in
reception, so everything has to be local, which OSMAnd does a good job
of for most things ... just not B/unclassified roads :(
Docker is yet another infrastructure tool to get ones head arou
simply wrong for the UK!
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On 30/03/17 18:38, Lester Caine wrote:
> Kind regards, Lester Caine
*I* did not sent that email! Which is why it has another email address
since forging my own would fall fowl of my spf record!
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> On 30/03/17 18:38, Lester Caine wrote:
>> Kind regards, Lester Caine
>
> *I* did not sent that email! Which is why it has another email address
> since forging my own would fall fowl of my spf record!
OK anybody know who to repor
idea what the tool is supposed to do :)
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hem to take box="w,s,e,n" as an alternative input. But
the range of 'standards' for passing parameters is the problem here not
simply what is being passed. With each OS and programming language
having it's own style of working there is simply to many variables to
create a single stand
een languages ...
> On 22/04/2017 15:45, Lester Caine wrote:
>> On 22/04/17 15:28, Dave F wrote:
>>> As they're parameters, the format can be standardised for the end user &
>>> any programme should be able to sort out syntax behind the scenes.
>> Totally ag
On 22/08/17 17:19, Philip Barnes wrote:
>> called differently, but this is it:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed:practical
>>
> Isn"t that going to be rather subjective?
And will depend on 'time of day' ;)
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route but then avoids the M5 as well :) Interesting ...
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. what it should be using is a percentage,
so 5% would be tidy and 10% pushing where a traffic camera would be
'within tolerance'. Since speedometers are only required to be 'within
10%' currently ... you get the idea ;)
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s to a halt. Stratford is just as bad and the new roads planned
will make things even worse rather than helping. We don't stand much
chance of designing a harmonized routing process when the planners can't
even fix the problems they create :(
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to find the right location to see what data was in OSM for
the collage and some material that has not yet made it into wikidata
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independent and unrelated project
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t are doing the
processing. The annoying thing here is that the hierarchy of places that
wikidata provides could be useful to OSM searches ... but it still needs
the likes of Nominatim and/or GeoNames to cross reference that data
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> On 27 September 2017 at 16:06, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> While it is not yet complete, in what way is Wikdiata failing to be
>>> sufficiently reliable?
>>
>> Much of the work I did on wikipedi
as the NSG's update reports adding new streets
and changes to location hierarchy. But I should prefer that this layer
is part of OSM rather than a third party service.
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why I think
'another' cross-reference tool may be more appropriate with OSM and
wikipedia/wikidata simply being sources. THAT requires OSM to have a
'unique id' one can use to cross reference though :(
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lot of corrections made to get the right 'set' of data on a school
object. While only a small number of objects were actually wrong, that
is enough to justify needing a manual cross check of some sort.
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that overlays
that, so OSM only needs to use the wikidata namespace for all of that
material. I don't think that the idea of 'bot' space actually fits into
that model as it is the unique ID that is fixed and 'bot' tags either
need to be accessible in 'mapping' space, or remain in the se
g the default desktop view)
AH - so it's stripped when you grab a printed copy of the article :(
There may be a link to Wikimedia Commons material, but not to wikidata
material in external links ... that is where I expected to find it ;)
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as birth, death and activity locations that
overlay all the objects I'm working with. Premises listed on the UK
national census are a typical fairly reliable source I'm working with
daily ...
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emetery. wikidata
should probably have an object for that with links to Highgate cemetery
and OSM could have a complete set of all gravestones on the site, or
link to an external copy of that list.
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stest' route
for UK rural areas - and get my blue motorway, green trunk and red
primary road back :)
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Mod
d dedicated sat nav did a good job as well as handling hands free
calls on the N900 mobile. Modern options are going down hill fast and
can't even do the basics! Simple reception of a signal would be nice to
have once again ...
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epend on why you are using the road? Things like 'speed_limit' need to
be handled before adding another 'classification' tag?
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ting
that gives problems, other routing engines are showing similar detours
around local 'shortcuts' ... so even within a single country
harmonization is a problem ...
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a country or area need to cover the differences that apply
in that area? Just as the routing rules need to know France is Left Hand
and UK is Right ... with different default speed limits.
> Le mar. 22 août 2017 à 11:16, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk
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me a more
reliable source of such data. Just a single link to a substantial set of
additional data.
So ... where does 'brand:' come from? Should this not simply be 'link:'?
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