hers and sister here on TT and recognize the error of your ways.
Respectfully,
Bill Taylor
- Original Message -
From: Judy Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 3:43 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious
Bill,
I percieve that you are another one who does
In a message dated 3/29/2004 8:07:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It seems to me that just maybe your bringing your own baggage to the table. Seems you don't like contention and provocation. We must do everything to avoid contention at all costs. Am I wrong?
And I am
In a message dated 3/29/2004 8:19:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy don't you get it they only want SMOOTH THINGS!
Cmon John, scarcely has time to think, and you are a genius?
You know something, Kevin, my words are very clear. I have emails in storage from judyt
till needs to be made from this side . . . .
and addressed from your side of this problem.
Respectfully,
Bill
Taylor
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:06
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscio
Where is the even handedness in this?
Bill lectures you, without even a contextual knowledge of the "event". Without any questioning of Izzy. I think Bill has a bullseye on YOU Judy. You must have said something that hurt his feelings.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill,
I percieve that
The point is you take Judy to task. ON WHAT BASIS? Your own personal opinion?
What makes your opinion so important?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/29/2004 8:19:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy don't you get it they only want SMOOTH THINGS! Cmon John,
ubject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious
Well I guess Jesus should rewrite Mark 16
Todays 21 first century version:
Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to those that want to hear it[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/28/2004 2:48:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECT
Maybe they are Tares!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right on.
You know Kevin I can understand receiving a lot of flackout on the street
preaching to unbelievers, in SLC,or in my case with my unbelieving family and
other unbelievers. WhatI findtragic on TT is that on a list like this
Seems they have the same thing the LDS have They do not want to hear it so they try to make you shut up. I think this happened in the bible a time or two. Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right on.
You know Kevin I can understand receiving a lot of flackout on the street
preaching to
Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.
For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life
What way are you on?
He is in the way of life that keepeth instruction: but he that refuseth reproof
forgive me?
bill taylor
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:21
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
Where is the even handedness in this?
Bill lectures you, without even a contextual
questions? If not, then, you've made your point. I've made mine. I forgive you. Will you forgive me?
bill taylor
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious
Where is the even handedness in this?
Bill le
, March 29, 2004 5:09
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
Forgive you, for what wrong?"Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin, it's starting to sound like your issue
is with me. My issue with Judy did not involve what she had done in the
past
In a message dated 3/29/2004 3:19:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Let God be true and EVERY Man a LIAR"
A great lead-in to group discussion.
In a message dated 3/29/2004 3:23:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What makes your opinion so important?
It is the correct one.
John
In a message dated 3/29/2004 3:36:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"saved by faith apart from being right"
Could I restate this as "you are saved by faith in spite of being wrong"?
Absolutely. Actually, a very good point.
John
I percieve that we understand this in two different senses.
I believe your statement is falacious.
You can not be saved in error.
2 thes 2;12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth
2:13 salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth
1 Tim 2:4 Who will
We can not even agree on this![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/29/2004 3:23:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What makes your opinion so important? It is the correct one. John Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
al Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious
Forgive you, for what wrong?"Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin, it's starting to sound like your issue is with me. My issue with Judy
In a message dated 3/29/2004 7:01:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can not be saved in error.
So you right about everthing you think? Not
John
In a message dated 3/29/2004 7:02:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We can not even agree on this!
Well, we have finally reached agreement.
Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004
9:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] God in
our unconscious
That is what happens to the Lost. Blind follow Blind both fall in the
ditch. Peck is on the Broadway. Hope you get on the narrow way.
ShieldsFamily
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
rontations, and this has been quite a growth experience for me.
Thanks very much.
Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Judy
TaylorSent: Saturday, March
27, 2004 9:21 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
From:
"ShieldsFamily&qu
In a message dated 3/28/2004 2:48:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is a public list and you are choosing to be here
Why do you communicate with Izzy? Do you actually think you are accomplishing some good addressing your thoughts to someone who is not listening to you?
Well I guess Jesus should rewrite Mark 16
Todays 21 first century version:
Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to those that want to hear it[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/28/2004 2:48:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is a public list and you
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Judy you have been Rebuked for communicating. Please do not communicate a rebuke to John this is a one way street. Is it not a little
In a message dated 3/28/2004 1:43:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Amos 5:10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.
Or maybe Proverbs 12:1 applies: Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge. But he who hates reproof is stupid.
Right on.
You know Kevin I can understand receiving a lot of
flackout on the street
preaching to unbelievers, in SLC,or in my case
with my unbelieving family and
other unbelievers.
WhatI findtragic on TT is that on a list like this where most
people claim to beserving the Lord one
your biases, as I am not interested in noisy nonsense or
insultingword-offal.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:13
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
Well Blaine:
According to scripture on the last day we are going to
be judged according
to the Words Jesus spoke. These are not the same
Words your BofM teaches
So how will you get around that? Jesus said the
gate is strait and the way is
narrow and only a few are going to find it. I know
essage -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 2:12
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is a public list and you are choosing
to be here
john: Why do you communicate w
In a message dated 3/28/2004 2:17:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
tell me your reasoning
i don't know if my bias and my reasoning can be separaed but, as I used to say in book sales, "here goes nothing." I believe the biblical message teaches clearly that you, Blaine, are
In a message dated 3/28/2004 2:33:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Take the words of your brothers and sister here on TT and recognize the error of your ways.
Yes and amen
Thanks Bill,
John
Bill,
I percieve that you are another one who does not
listen.
You have judged me already as offensive, proud, and
stubborn, causing hurt to an innocent party.
I have already written to Izzy with no response
sohave done all that I can do. Are you calling me
a liar on top of your other
When do unrepentantsinners ever request
counseling? They would be unrepentant sinners if they were seeking
counsel.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 3:19
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
Bill, shouldn't you be letting God be God in the lives
of people?
Last I read it was the Holy Spirit who convicts of
sin.
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When do unrepentantsinners ever request
counseling?
They would be unrepentant sinners if they were
seeking counsel.
From: Judy
: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:16:03 -0700
Blaine: I keep wondering, when people say I am not a Christian because I
am a Mormon, if they even know what they are saying. It seems to me they
haven't really thought anything through, they are just parroting what
I
Last I read it was the Holy Spirit who convicts of sin.
An amazing display of hypocrisy. Words coming from someone who (a) interferes in every thread on this list and (b) is so busy doing the Holy Spirit's work that she scarcely has time to think.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 3:43
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
Bill,
I percieve that you are another one who does not
listen.
You have judged me already as offensive, proud
: Sunday, March 28, 2004 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious
Blaine wrote: So I must be a Christian. If you still don't believe this,
please tell me your reasoning--but withold your biases, as I am not
interested in noisy nonsense or insulting word-offal.
Blaine, Blaine
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 4:33
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in
our unconscious
In a message dated 3/28/2004 2:17:45 PM Pacific Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
tell me
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated
3/26/2004 8:54:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt says
What does jt say? I don't
see anything in this space.
You recently posted an email that addressed both BillT and
myself.
I think this is what Izzy was talking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jt wrote: Our faith should not
rest in Church history. Why do you say that
God's grace and the blood of the lamb are the
answer to all the mess. Do you think that
God will validate all of the things you
mention above anyway?
God's grace and the continual flow of he
0:45
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
If you had been respecting my request, you would
not even have been asking questions, Judy.
BT
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:52
PM
Subject:
Get over it John
Do you want Judy to be as wishy washy as some on this list that still have not found the truth?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/26/2004 8:54:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt says You recently posted an email that addressed both BillT and
along for
almost a day.
Bill Taylor
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 5:13
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Furthermore, Judy,
Judy,
Since you are slandering me publicly, I must state I have NO IDEA what issue
you are referring to. If there is something you are feeling guilty about
from the past, please be assured that I dont even remember
it. I would appreciate it if you would make your disparaging remarks
about
In a message dated 3/27/2004 4:36:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not without repentance which means the sinner must consciously repent of and turn
from their sin.
What happens to the fellow who is not aware of his sin? The flow of the blood doesn't work until he, the
In a message dated 3/27/2004 5:04:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Where would you come up with an idea like that? You can not be Mormon/Christian
any more than you can be Jew/Christian.
Regarding the Jew/Christian thing: read Acts 21. More than that -- virtually all
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated
3/27/2004 4:36:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not without repentance which means the sinner
must consciously repent of and turn from their sin.
john: What happens to the fellow who is not aware of his sin?
jt: The
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated
3/27/2004 5:04:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Where would you come up with an idea like
that? You can not be Mormon/Christian
any more than you can be Jew/Christian.
john: Regarding the Jew/Christian
thing: read Acts
In a message dated 3/27/2004 8:40:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wow. There are so many things we disagree on. Pick ONE of the following and stay with it, judy. I will respond to all your commits -- which I never do. But to illustrate just how far apart we are, here I
In a message dated 3/27/2004 5:23:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Get over it John
Be nice, Kevin. I am.
John, a brother in Christ
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John: Wow. There are so many
things we disagree on.
Pick ONE of the following and stay
with it, judy. I will respond to all your
commits -- which I
never do. But to illustrate just how far apart we are,
here I go. My current
remarks are in caps. John
From: [EMAIL
an amazingchange of climate.
Respectfully,
Bill
Taylor
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:25
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John: Wow. There are so
What is the problem?
Judy knows what she believes and believes it firmly.
Does that bother you?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/27/2004 5:23:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Get over it John Be nice, Kevin. I am. John, a brother in Christ Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo!
in love.) I really like Pecks explanation of the Stages of Faith. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wm. TaylorSent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:45 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious
Izzy,
Have you ever treaded glass so
judyt writes:
Do you understand the new covenant promise
in Jeremiah 31:34 (and other places) that becomes activated by faith
in Christ?
No. What "activated" the New Covenant was the blood of Christ. Perhaps you should read Jeremiah 31:31-34. The New is totally different from the Old. Sins
In a message dated 3/27/2004 5:46:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does that bother you?
Come on Kevin. You are not being nice.
John
Taylor
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004
9:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
From:
ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Judy, Since
you are slandering me publicly, I must state I have NO IDEA
what
issue you are referring to. If there is something you
Bill,
The picture you drew about Gods
beauty brought tears to my eyesso true! What do you think of M. Scott
Pecks words in The Road Less
Traveled?---
If you want to know the closest
place to look for grace, it is within yourself. If you desire wisdom greater
than your own, you can
hould want to conclude
that this is indeed what he is doing or saying, I would want to know how he
nuances this language with Scripture. Is that okay?
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:53
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk]
I know I'm not Bill but I do know about F. Scott Peck and his books "The
People of the Lie" and "The Road Less Travelled" Peck is into theNew
Age concepts and he has Buddhist leanings so when he speaks of god within it is
not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
The term "unconscious"
does need to be some wisdom here, leaderswith
spiritual discernment.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:54
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
I know I'm not Bill but I do know abou
--- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:54
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
I know I'm not Bill but I do know about F. Scott Peck and his books "The
People of the Lie" and "The Road Less Tr
unconscious
is the same as your spiritual instinct. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wm. Taylor
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:50
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in
our unconscious
Then he goes on to explain that this
is what we
nowing Christ
personally). I was just wondering if Pecks unconscious is the same as your
spiritual instinct. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Wm.
TaylorSent: Friday, March
26, 2004 8:50 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Go
, 2004 11:45
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in
our unconscious
Izzy,
Have you ever treaded glass so as to stay away from
stickers? I did not really know what to do with Peck. As I said, I am not all
that familiar with him. I wasn't aware of what Judy shared
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:32
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
Glad we can agree on something Bill - would you say that language is part
of our problem?
bt: Yes I
A pot luck's a pot luck.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 7:52
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
In a
message dated 3/26/2004 6:41:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL
, still his
but expressed in fresh language.Please be patient,
Bill
- Original Message
-
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:03
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
jt: Let me try and get this straight. Bill are you
God, still his
but expressed in fresh language.Please be patient,
Bill
- Original Message
-
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:03
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
jt: Let me try and get this straight. Bi
If you had been respecting my request, you would
not even have been asking questions, Judy.
BT
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:52
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
From: "Wm. T
. Maybe the problem is not so
much with the words I'm using, but the ones you
use.
God bless you,
Bill Taylor
- Original Message -
From:
Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:45
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our
unconscious
In a message dated 3/26/2004 9:47:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Our faith should not rest in Church history. Why do you say that
God's grace and the blood of the lamb are the answer to all the mess. Do you think that
God will validate all of the things you mention above
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