[tw] Re: Will this work with MPTW

[Amzg]

I did it the reverse way, i.e starting out with the treeview thingy
because it seemed very intergrated and then added tagglytagging and
some other stuff from mptw.


On Dec 16, 10:07 pm, Vincent Wong  wrote:
> I was on  
> http://twt-treeview-executive.tiddlyspot.com/
>  and
> wondering if this can be incorporated into an existing MPTW page.
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Vincent  wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I've been trying to incorporate this plugin to an existing MPTW page.
> > Can this be done? Would you mind laying out some pointers?
>
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[tw] Re: Newbie Question about tags

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> The case of the letters matters here. "systemConfig"
> is a tag which is specially reserved for plugins.

..because it makes the particular tiddler be evaluated upon loading
the TW.

Also, if I were completely new to TW I would have appreciated if
someone directed me to;
http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/

if nothing else then just for the distinction of the tiddlers from the
background.

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[tw] Re: Breadcrumbs

[Amzg]

I don't have any experience w BreadcrumbsPlugin, but here's maybe an
alternative way;

http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#[[List%20the%2010%20most%20recently%20modified%20tiddlers]]


On Nov 28, 2:55 am, sonomakid2002  wrote:
> Is there scripting that can be used on the Breadcrumbs plugin where
> instead of making a long list of breakcrumbs, it will make the list in
> a drop down menu that the length/size can be customizable with all the
> same functions to list the breadcrumbs from most recent to oldest
> tiddler visited? Does anyone have any thoughts?
>
> Cody

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[tw] Re: Wikifying your FF bookmarks, kind of.

[Amzg]

I'm really happy to say IT WORKS though!
I intend to put up a "conclusive" post here, but before I do;

As per your suggestion, I modified the ViewTemplate into;



...but this puts the MarksMarcoButton first in the tiddler menu. I
think it ought to be more hidden (it is not every day that you save
all tabs as bookmarks) so it should be under the "more▼" button.
However, doing the followign in ToolbarCommands does not work;

|~ViewToolbar|closeTiddler closeOthers +editTiddler deleteTiddler
references > fields syncing permalink MarksMarcoButton|

Thank you

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[tw] Re: Wikifying your FF bookmarks, kind of.

[Amzg]

Thank you Måns! What do you mean with;

> ...

i.e what is this macro?

Thank you!

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[tw] Re: Wikifying your FF bookmarks, kind of.

[Amzg]

After a lot of digging[1], I found this snippet;

story.findContainingTiddler(this).getAttribute('tiddler')

and figured I'd just replace Marks input prompt, i.e like this;

var src=story.findContainingTiddler(this).getAttribute('tiddler');

The idea is to paste an URL-list into a tiddler, and save, and then
press marks "macro button" that is in the sidebar(!)

Unfortunately it doesn't work. It doesn't get what "this" is.
Is there a default word other than "this", such as "latest"... or do I
just mistunderstand it all?

thanks!

:-|

[1] ...in a Mr.Shulman post, of course;
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/bbfcc35e63096a8c/cc8f51e5073de447?lnk=gst&q=scroll+to+top+of#cc8f51e5073de447


On Nov 24, 4:05 pm, Amzg  wrote:
> Some furtherifications;
>
> If not possible to somehow do the pasting directly into the prompt or
> equivalent (as suggested above) then, second best, maybe it's possible
> to  make Marks script automatically use the latest created tiddler,
> i.e omitting the need to type in anything manually in the prompt?
> Instead of the [[ check one could check for "http://"; to *be* there.

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[tw] Aggregate tables from sections/fields in multiple tiddlers

[Amzg]

I wish to aggregate information from individual tiddlers,
automatically generating tables like e.g PluginManager does.

1) How is this done?
(I understand that the PluginManager "exctracts fields" from the
individual "plugin tables" but the method is hidden in a macro;
{{small groupbox{<>}}} )
The amount of source tiddlers will grow with a few dayily, i.e
eventually it will get rather lenghty.

2) Some data in the resulting table is to be calculated values, for
instance "current age" (ie. todays date minus a fixed date). Is this
better calculated in the aggregate table or in the individual
tiddlers?


I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but I don't know what
search terms to use.

Thank you!

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[tw] Re: How to display a tiddler in multi-columns style ?

[Amzg]

I noted a reference to "TW help" above, but I think this particular
link is more relevant;

http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com/#FormattingTiddlers
(tab named TwoColumns)



On Nov 24, 10:29 pm, PMario  wrote:
> Hello Tobias,
>
> On 18 Nov., 16:21, Tobias Beer  wrote:
>
> > Can anyone explain the origins, application, how-to's of this syntax?
> > div[tags~="someTag"] {style:property;}
> > Tobias.
>
> If a Tiddler ist tagged with eg: "firstChar" the style properties are
> applied to this tiddler. Put the following code into your StyleSheet.
> Make a newTiddler. Tag it "firstChar" and Enter 3 lines of text .
> Details see. [1]
>
> div[tags~="firstChar"].tiddler
>         .viewer:first-letter {
>                 float: left;
>                 font-size: 300%;
>                 font-weight: bold;
>                 border-style: solid;
>                 border-width: 1px;
>                 border-color: red;
>                 padding: 3px 3px 0px 3px;
>         }
>
> div[tags~="firstChar"].tiddler
> .viewer:first-line {
> background-color: #99;
>
> }
>
> I like it :)
>
> regards Mario
> [1]http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#AnotherExampleStyleSheet

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[tw] Re: TW Inline Script to execute a batch file?

[Amzg]

http://www.Remotely-Helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/LaunchApplication.html


On Nov 24, 4:50 pm, Mike  wrote:
> I have a batch file that creates a JS array which I later use in
> another script
> (See script 
> here:http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/1d228e...)
>
> Idea from:http://www.dynamicdrive.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13488.html
>
> I would like to execute the batch file from inside my TW to refresh
> the JS array.
> Is this possible? (Using FF3.5 / TW 2.5.3)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike

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[tw] Re: Sorting order under treeview entries

[Amzg]

Maybe it's possible to put a minus sign in front of the dates (i.e
based on the assumptino that they are sorted "in order")?
If that is not possible, maybe you could make it "2100-'date'"?

Haven't tried it.

(BTW... your "daily logs" don't seem very daily... "2006..")

:-)


On Nov 23, 3:32 pm, Shankar  wrote:
> I have an entry for the parent topic as: "Daily Logs".  Under that, I
> have tiddlers titled "2006-12-11", "2006-12-15", "2006-12-18" ...
>
> Now the tiddlers appear in the treeview list in that order.  But I
> would like to reverse that - so that the latest one appears at the top
> etc.
>
> Is there a way of doing that?  It would be neat, if this order is
> customizable to entries under "Daily Logs" only.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cheers; 'best,
>
> shankar swamy

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[tw] Re: Wikifying your FF bookmarks, kind of.

[Amzg]

Some furtherifications;

If not possible to somehow do the pasting directly into the prompt or
equivalent (as suggested above) then, second best, maybe it's possible
to  make Marks script automatically use the latest created tiddler,
i.e omitting the need to type in anything manually in the prompt?
Instead of the [[ check one could check for "http://"; to *be* there.

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[tw] Cool idea to 'capture' webpages in TW

[Amzg]

I don't know if it is possible, but it would be great if one could
create a separate tiddler with a link to a webpage via something like;

while on the desired webpage in the browser, pull it's window tab onto
the TW tap and drop.
- or perhaps -
a TW keyboard shotcut to capture the address and make a tiddler out of
it
- or perhaps-
a little dropbox permanently floating on top of the browser. Anything
dropped into it is wikified. (Why do I get a feeling this is a  bit
'out there'...)

 ...while at it, here's another thought;

to capture *elements* on webpages; being an avid user of the FF addons
AdblockPlus (and since a few days back "AdblockPlus element helper"),
I've realized that individual parts of webpages can be reached.

"Individual parts" such as, say, that news scroll bar, that flash
animation, the baseball chart, the temperature, that little widget
showing that thing you're interested in on you favorite web page.

(I'd guess the main part of such a thing is alredy done by (take a
guess ;-) Mr. Shulman. His great FramedLinksPlugin lets you put
iframes in tiddlers - but these show all of the webpage, typically
meaning that the contents are too big and becomes contorted, and with
lot's of stuff you're not interested in of course.)


:-)

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[tw] Re: Wikifying your FF bookmarks, kind of.

[Amzg]

For the record: It should be noted that any link containing e.g a pipe
sign (i.e | ) messes up things. As would e.g links with ]] etc.

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[tw] Re: Wikifying your FF bookmarks, kind of.

[Amzg]

Mark, thank you so much!

Here is a slightly modified version including my last thoughts from
above, i.e with a little bookmark-button before to each link. Quite
possibly hacky due to my cut-paste-trial-error-approach to
programming. Oh, btw, it is remodified for not a HR list but the
original link-title list format

BTW, maybe there's a way to paste the "clipboarded link list" DIRECTLY
into the script prompt (or equivalent)? I mean instead of having to
pasting it into a separate tiddler and then having to type the tiddler
name into the script.



var src=prompt("Write title of tiddler with list to convert");
if (!src || !src.length) {
  alert("Could not find tiddler by name of " + src + "." ) ;
  return false;
}

var txt = store.getTiddlerText(src) ;
if(txt.indexOf("[[") != -1) {
  alert ( "Tiddler " + src + " is already wikified." ) ;
  return false ;
}

var tid = store.getTiddler(src) ;
var ara = txt.split("\n") ;
var out = "" ;

for(var i=0;i>[[" + ara[i+1]+"|"+ara[i]+"]]
\n" ;
store.saveTiddler
(src,src,out,tid.modifier,tid.modified,tid.tags,tid.fields);
//return "Tiddler " + src + " now wikified." ;
story.displayTiddler(story.findContainingTiddler(place),src);
//return false;






On Nov 24, 3:11 am, "Mark S."  wrote:
> Hi Måns,
> Very mysterious. Believe this line:
>
>   //var tid = store.getTiddler(src) ;
>
> Should be this line:
>   var tid = store.getTiddler(src) ;
>
> Not sure how that happened, since it seemed to test fine.
>
> Oh well -- hope this fixes it. Looking at your browser list, though,
> it appears you may have some broken url's.
>
> Good luck,
> Mark
>
> On Nov 23, 4:42 pm, Måns  wrote:
>
> > Hi again again
>
> > > This should do something like what you want. The script turns into a
> > > link that you click to activate.
>
> > > Good luck,
>
> > When I write MiniBrowserList in the prompt I get: ReferenceError: tid
> > is not defined..
>
> > Please test (the button is in the 
> > sidebarmenu)http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1064531/screendmp/FunWTW/empty/empty.html
>
> > Regards Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: Wikifying your FF bookmarks, kind of.

[Amzg]

On Nov 23, 9:51 pm, Måns  wrote:
>
> I would like to make a version of your script which will overwrite the
> URL_LIST with the result..

If this is unsafe, mabye it'd be better to create the result in a new
tiddler and somehow delete the URL_LIST automatically (I have no idea
how)?

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[tw] Re: Wikifying your FF bookmarks, kind of.

[Amzg]

Hey, that is fantastic! Thank you and thank to Mr. Shulman!

Then how about this modification;


var txt = store.getTiddlerText("URLs091123") ;
var ara = txt.split("\n") ;
var out = "" ;
for(var i=0;i<ara.length;i+=2)
out += "<<newJournal title:'" + ara[i+1]+ "' tag:'URLs' label:'T'  >>
[[" + ara[i+1]+"|"+ara[i]+"]]\n" ;
return out ;


The idea is to put a little tiddlifier-button (T) in front of each
link that, if pressed, creates a separate tiddler with the name of the
url. This way separate links/bookmarks can be tagged easily for easy
association with what-be-it in your TW. Unfortunately the above is my
best shot (and I'm astonished to say it works!)... but how would I
include the URL as *content* in the created tiddler?

If you allow me to get a bit philosophical; I think a seamless
integration between TW and the web - or rather; between tiddlers and
webpages - is desirable. Tiddlers are "snippets of information" that
you're interested in - and so are webpages, so it makes sense to me to
keept it all in the smooth TW interface.

:-)


On Nov 23, 6:07 pm, "Mark S."  wrote:
> If you have Eric's Inline Javascript plugin, then this code will do a
> quick and dirty job:
>
> 
> var txt = store.getTiddlerText("URL_LIST") ;
> var ara = txt.split("\n") ;
> var out = "" ;
> for(var i=0;i<ara.length;i+=2)
> out += "[[" + ara[i+1]+"|"+ara[i]+"]]\n" ;
> return out ;
> 
>
> Where "URL_LIST" is the name of your tiddler with the alternating urls
> and descriptions. Obviously this could be parameterized to use the
> <> inclusion macro.
>
> I haven't tried the FF plugin, but it sort looks like you should be
> able to make it produce a wikified output.
>
> Mark
> On Nov 23, 6:31 am, Amzg  wrote:
>
> > On Nov 22, 4:00 pm, BC  wrote:
>
> > > Incidentally, if like me, you tend to have too many tabs open all at
> > > once and don't want to bookmark them, the Copy All Urls Firefox add-on
> > > works great for tiddly bookmarking 
> > > also:https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/934
>
> > HA! That is GREAT!! Bookmark-LISTS are much more suitable in TW than
> > FF because it is a lot easier to edit such a list in TW and, via
> > framedLinksPlugin, take a peek at a bookmark.
>
> > ...and how about this little addition;
>
> > Create a tiddler titled URLlist, and put the following [1] in it:
> > < > paste'  >>
>
> > Pressing the resulting button gives a new tiddler where to paste the
> > URL list, and it is automatically named with todays date and tagged
> > with URLlist.
>
> > You can then use a <> macro to put the resulting
> > button e.g in the sidebar, perhaps accompanied by a slider to show the
> > URLlist (via e.g TagglyTagging [2] or a forEachTiddler).
>
> > Now, the resulting list from that firefox addon is pretty messy. It
> > would be great if it somehow could be turned into pretty wikilinks,
> > i.e from the current format;
>
> > URL1
> > Name1
> > URL2
> > Name2
>
> > into
>
> > [[Name1|URL1]]
> > [[Name2|URL2]]
>
> > Any thoughts?
>
> > :-)
>
> > [1] from 
> > here:http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/1a6372...
> > [2]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging

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[tw] Re: Wikifying your FF bookmarks, kind of.

[Amzg]

On Nov 22, 4:00 pm, BC  wrote:
> Incidentally, if like me, you tend to have too many tabs open all at
> once and don't want to bookmark them, the Copy All Urls Firefox add-on
> works great for tiddly bookmarking 
> also:https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/934

HA! That is GREAT!! Bookmark-LISTS are much more suitable in TW than
FF because it is a lot easier to edit such a list in TW and, via
framedLinksPlugin, take a peek at a bookmark.

...and how about this little addition;

Create a tiddler titled URLlist, and put the following [1] in it:
<>

Pressing the resulting button gives a new tiddler where to paste the
URL list, and it is automatically named with todays date and tagged
with URLlist.

You can then use a <> macro to put the resulting
button e.g in the sidebar, perhaps accompanied by a slider to show the
URLlist (via e.g TagglyTagging [2] or a forEachTiddler).

Now, the resulting list from that firefox addon is pretty messy. It
would be great if it somehow could be turned into pretty wikilinks,
i.e from the current format;

URL1
Name1
URL2
Name2

into

[[Name1|URL1]]
[[Name2|URL2]]


Any thoughts?

:-)


[1] from here:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/1a637249fb564f77/59a74f08f36dfffa?lnk=gst&q=blog#59a74f08f36dfffa
[2] http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging

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[tw] Wikifying your FF bookmarks, kind of.

[Amzg]

Just discovered that if you use FF (untried for other browsers), then
you can right click on a bookmarks folder, choose copy, and then paste
into a tiddler, resulting in a list with all the bookmark-addresses

This is obviously powerful in combo with FramedLinksPlugin * letting
you click on any of those listed bookmark-links and get an iFrame
opening right in the list.

* http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#FramedLinksPlugin

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[tw] Re: is tiddlyspot down?

[Amzg]

Ouupp! - Sorry, I now notice I get this message for SOME of my TW's
there! Bad omen...


On Nov 21, 1:24 pm, Silvio Messias  wrote:
> I am having the same kind of message till this morning...
>
> On 21 nov, 10:15, sklpns  wrote:
>
> > Please help!
> > I get an Error! 404 Not Found message when trying to access my sites
> > hosted over at tiddlyspot.com
>
> > Is tiddlyspot down at the moment?

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[tw] Re: is tiddlyspot down?

[Amzg]

Getting this message too.

On Nov 21, 1:24 pm, Silvio Messias  wrote:
> I am having the same kind of message till this morning...
>
> On 21 nov, 10:15, sklpns  wrote:
>
> > Please help!
> > I get an Error! 404 Not Found message when trying to access my sites
> > hosted over at tiddlyspot.com
>
> > Is tiddlyspot down at the moment?

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[tw] Re: Best solution for connecting TWs

[Amzg]

Valuable input, but it seems there is no decent solution.

Regarding the iframe semi-solution, I just wish to mention these
plugins;

http://tw.lewcid.org//#FullScreenPlugin  (note/warning; it is 3+ years
old.)
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ToggleFullScreen

Maybe when loading the iframe it's possible to evoke such a plugin
there at the same time?




On Nov 13, 1:31 am, AlanBCohen  wrote:
> Tobias,
> Thanks for the information on using iframes to embed one TW file in
> the GUI on another.  I implemented that earlier today between several
> files I use as more or less static data repositories and my work
> machine homepage.
>
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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

[Amzg]

> TiddlyWeb already comes with an (optional) pure-Python server, making  
> it fully 
> portable:http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/#%5B%5BInstalling%20on%20Windows%5...
>
> -- F.


WOW! Does this mean free individual tiddlers, kind of instant website-
lets, possible to download and manipulate into new variants, available
anytime the USB is plugged in? Maybe even findable via SE's?

(Now if I only knew even how to spell Piton.. Pytun... Py... point
being that I understand zipf of the TiddlyWeb documentation or how to
set up a server  ;-)
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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

[Amzg]

Now taken care of.
http://portableapps.com/node/21453


(BTW I notice a portable server(!) there. I only have a vague idea of
what TiddlyWeb is, but the thought of a personal USB stick as a server
loaded with single tiddlers that can be shared around the globe...
whoaa!)
http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp


On Nov 12, 2:43 pm, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> Hmmm I've not been able to find out how one nominates an app for
> inclusion. I agree that TiddlyWiki's maturity makes it a reasonable
> candidate for inclusion.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jerm
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM, AlanBCohen  wrote:
>
> > And quite a few of us who already use both.  I find my TW files work
> > quite well with the portable version of Firefox on the PortableApps
> > site.
> > Alan
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[tw] Re: Best solution for connecting TWs

[Amzg]

On Nov 11, 12:41 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> Both ExportTiddlersPlugin (interactive) and SaveAsPlugin (macro) can
> be used to *merge* selected tiddlers into an existing TW document.

Interesting. I've read the plugin descriptions but if I understand it
correctly it does not quite solve the suggested push idea outlined in
the first post. I'm guessing that "mering" at best adds stuff to a
already existing tiddler (as opposed to e.g freely replacing the
contents) and it seems some work in specifying exactly which tiddlers
to 'push' that cannot be automated.

Interesting plugins though!

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[tw] Re: Best solution for connecting TWs

[Amzg]

Thank you all.

Måns,

Bidix's UploadTiddlerPlugin;
1) does it let you upload both updated tiddlers and *brand new*
tiddlers?
2) does it allow choosing between multiple external TWs to upload to?
3) would those check boxes be possible to place in the tiddler
template? (but of course only uploading the name+tags+contents)

iFrame;
I've used it too, but the major drawback is of course lack of
integration with the central TW. I.e it does not make sense to, for
instance, tag central tiddlers with names of external tiddlers.
...but, thinking of it, just maybe it *would* work in combo with
Abegos IncludePlugin (IP). IP would let you use tags and the iFrame
would let you edit the source tiddler. Now if only the iFrame could be
connected with the IP-tiddler somehow...

TiddlyChatter looks interesting, but I think I understand the 'hair
aspect' you refer to. (BTW, slick color scheme for TiddlyChatter!)


Maybe that TiddlyWeb project will solve all this? Too advanced for me
though.
http://www.tiddlyweb.com/

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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

[Amzg]

Hm, I don't see it listed in the "Applications list" there.
 http://portableapps.com/apps

Using their search feature I find an old request by someone to add it
to their suite, and a few references to it in their forum. The request
is a few years old and it says nothing about how "established" TW is
by now.

I'd contact them myself but I don't quite know that the GNU says on
this matter and I don't quite know what to say about the muscle power
behind TW. I imagine that they're a lot more interested if they know
something is backed up by X many programmers and that it has been
around for X years etc. And most of all, I'm not qute sure regarding
your or Osmosoft/BT's view on the matter.

To me it is obvious TW belongs in their suite.

Best


On Nov 12, 12:55 pm, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> > TiddlyWiki would possibly do well by being included here;
>
> >http://portableapps.com/
>
> There's quite a few matches for TiddlyWiki on the site already, do we
> need to do something new to improve it's exposure?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
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[tw] Portableapps (att: Ruston)

[Amzg]

TiddlyWiki would possibly do well by being included here;

http://portableapps.com/

Ref. to the "personal wiki on a stick" aspect.

(Not sure Mr.Ruston participates in here, but it's not a
tiddlydevgroup issue and don't know who else to mention this to... so
I'm just throwing it out here...)
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[tw] Best solution for connecting TWs

[Amzg]

Has any decent/practical solution come up for collaborating with
multiple TWs?

I'd guess a generally desired setup would be;
- one "central and general TW", possibly local, connected to;
- multiple specialized TWs perhaps online (e.g on tiddlyspot) to
invite other topic-interested users.

Clearly it'd be desirable to be able to both read and write on those
remote TWs **via the central one** - and so without storing copies of
individual tiddlers in the central one (other than perhaps
temporarily) and also without having to pre-specify which individual
tiddlers that are to be edited.

Has any best practice evolved for this?


After some digging I have identified the following tools touching
parts of the issue, but it seems none quite does it - or do I
misunderstand something?

>From TiddyTools;
ImportTiddlersPlugin - copies new/updated tiddlers from an external TW
ExternalTiddlersPlugin - (similar to previous but also importing non-
TW files into tiddlers)
LoadTiddlersPlugin - (very similar to previous? No snappy description
in documentation.)
...but using LTP together with TemporaryTiddlersPlugin lets you "each
time you open your document, [...] automatically retrieve an up-to-
date set of common tiddlers that are stored in another document
(either local or via remote URL), without those tiddlers being
retained when you save your document."
- As I understand this, it means I cannot meaningfully edit the source
tiddlers though.

...and the latter also sounds like;
AbegoExtensions IncludePlugin - i.e where you also "can only edit
included tiddlers in their "original" TiddlyWiki. Hence included
Tiddlers are readonly in a "main" TiddlyWiki."

An idea is to import a copy via the above into the central TW, and
then to **force-push** that into the source TW;

More from TiddlyTools:
ExportTiddlersPlugin - lets you push individual tiddlers to a file,
but as far as I can tell not as tiddlers into an existing TW.
UploadPlugin - lets you push a full TW but not individual tiddlers.

...there's also the Imtiaz/Alm;
TiddlySnip Firefox extension - this *does* let you push pieces of any
text - but not quite tiddlers - into a new tiddler in a TW.
Unfortunately not maintained anymore.

An workable option would be an iframe, i.e loading a whole external TW
into a tiddler on the central TW. Workable but not very elegant. Maybe
it is possible to make the external TW show up in singlepagemode and
without mainmenu etc? Anyone done this?


Does anyone have a practical setup for a central TW that can edit
external TWs?


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[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki

[Amzg]

Hoping to catch the opportunity to ask the creator himself;

Mr. Pearce, do I understand this correct;
A tiddler is only encrypted when it is rendered. For a TW on a remote
server (such as tiddlyspot) this means that when I use my local copy,
a tiddler tagged with Encrypt(something) is *not* necessarily
encrypted when I send it *to* that remote server, only later when the
TW is reloaded from there is it encrypted. Correct?

Thank you!


On Nov 11, 2:12 am, Lyall  wrote:
> Quoted from a gmail reply, I figure others may be interested in the
> answer...
>
> Firstly, as you may have gathered, a tiddler can only be encrypted
> with one password.
> You can have 2 tiddlers with a password each, or both tiddlers with
> the same password - all driven by the prompt - the prompt is simply a
> reminder for the password.
> However, you cannot have multiple passwords to decrypt the same
> tiddler.
>
> However, you could create a group of tiddlers with a prompt of 'Office
> Users' and spread the password to that group, and another group of
> tiddlers with 'Secret users' and spread the password there as well.
> But, you won't be able to give both Office Users and Secret users
> access to both groups, unless both groups know both passwords.
>
> Personally, I only encrypt the tiddlers that need encrypting, leaving
> the rest of the tiddlers open. After all, when encrypted, you can't
> search (at least, until you decrypt them all).
>
> That said, if TiddlerEncryptionPlugin is still for you, feel free to
> send me a sanitised version of your tiddlywiki and I can see if I can
> spot the problem with the menu bar. I don't need to know the passwords
> as I only need to be able to confirm the 'button' appears.
>
> ...Lyall
>
> On Nov 11, 7:57 am, Mike  wrote:
>
> > I have tried both, I am currently using TiddlerEncryption vs
> > EncryptedVault (had some problems with the vault, and random
> > characters appearing inside my tiddlers in TW 2.4.2)
>
> >http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/demo/EncryptedVaultPlugin.html(last
> > update 12/07)
> > set the password in the plugin (one password protects entire 
> > document)http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.ht...
> > (last update 10/08)
> > set the password for a tag or group of tiddlers (one password per
> > group)
> > If encryption is not required you could 
> > try:http://www.tiddlytools.com/#TiddlerPasswordPlugin
> > password via template & user level controls
>
> > Mike
>
> > On Nov 10, 2:15 pm, Alex  wrote:
>
> > > Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have
> > > tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the
> > > TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to
> > > somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on
> > > the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one "prompt" at a
> > > time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system
> > > with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want.
> > > I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but
> > > I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple
> > > passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of
> > > these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific
> > > difficulties I'm having. Thanks
>
> > > ~Alex
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[tw] Auto-update tiddler references?

[Amzg]

A recurring problem (for everyone I must assume);

Tiddlers, i.e tiddler names, are (of course) often referenced in other
tiddlers. But, upon changing the name of the source tiddler, the
references do not update, effectively making the references invalid -
and even without any alert, typically leaving the user unaware of it!

For *tags* this is solved in e.g Simon Bairds wonderful TagglyTagging
[1] (at least I think this is the plugin that solves this in his
MPTW). - My point is that automatically updating references *is*
possible and I'm guessing that the same method could be used for
content in general and not only tags.

Any solution to this very fundamental issue that concerns both
beginners and advanced users and deals directly with one of the main
points for TW, i.e that of effectively linking tiddlers?


Thanx!


[1] http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/
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[tw] (att: ELS) RefreshTiddler

[Amzg]

http://www.tiddlytools.com/#RefreshTiddler
...is a valuable little cutie for refreshing a tiddler.

Can it be used to refresh *another* pre-specied tiddler, i.e not the
tiddler where the macro-call is located? My reason for asking is
because I'm using Pearces TiddlerEncryptionPlugin (TEP) for the
MainMenu but the MainMenu does not seem to refresh after being
decrypted.

Second, is it possible to make the RefreshTiddler label not break the
line, effectively pushing everything thereafter a step down?

Thank you!!!



[1] http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.html

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[tw] TagSynonymPlugin?

[Amzg]

Is there a plugin that allows the user to pre-define synonymous tags
e.g;
tasty, delicious, yummy, "good tasting", ...

so that when a listing is run for the tag "tasty" (e.g via a fET),
then all tiddlers tagged with any synonym are also listed?

A particular - yet often encountered - situation that I've found is
for menus. For instance tagglyTaggingPlugin and the recent
TreeViewPlugin automatically structure tiddlers by tags into trees.
However, individual tiddlers are often tagged in singular form, e.g it
makes sense to tag "Mark Twain" with the tag "Author", But the menu
category header is ideally named "Authors" as there are many listed
there.

Is there some plugin that lets the user pre-define synonyms in a list
and that then ensures that all synonymously tagged tiddlers are
included when one if it's synonyms are used in listings etc? A
"feature" must be to let the user only care about the "synonym-aspect"
while setting up the synonym-list. I.e when the user later tags his
various tiddlers he should not have to bother to remember anything but
only to tag along freely.

I guess a decent variant would be something that automatically
*converts* all tags according to a pre-defined synonyms list. E.g any
tag occurence of 'yummy' becomes 'tasty'. Could be upon saving the
tiddler or perhaps invoked via some global command, or possibly when
saving the whole TW.


...now why do I have a feeling that the answer to my question if this
pllugin exists is "No"
 ;-)


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[tw] Alternatives to fET?

[Amzg]

Are there other good and general alternatives to fET?

Advantages? Limitations?

Thanks
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[tw] Multiple sort levels

[Amzg]

I have projects with actions. Projects can be tagged active or
completed. Actions are also tagged in various ways, but it is not
possible - via the action tiddler itself - to tell if it's project is
tagged active or completed.

How can you list the actions belonging to only active projects?

An archived thread [1] suggests fET to generate sortable tables, but I
don't want tables only a simple list. (I wouldn't mind using fET
though.)

Thank you!


http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/930e657d161e
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[tw] Listing grandchildren older than 30 days

[Amzg]

I wish to:

A) identify all tiddlers tagged with tag Project
B) list all tiddlers tagged Action AND tagged with the "project
tiddler name from (A)" AND with a modification date older than 30
days.
C) Repeat (B) for all identified 'project-tiddler-names' in (A)

My idea is a fET copy-paste mutilation, but I'm uncertain of syntax
etc. And I'm not sure I get (C) to work at all. Would appreciate it if
anyone could tell me where I go wrong, if there are more suitable
solutions etc.

(The particular age-checking part below is correct as it is from
Abego's original example [1] )

<>


Thank you!

/Mat


references:
[1] 
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#[[List%20all%20Tiddlers%20changed%20in%20the%20last%2030%20days]]
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[tw] Printouts w/o TW title

[Amzg]

How setup so that printouts don't print the TW title etc? I.e only
the

Something in StyleSheetPrint?

I'd actually assume that since TWs typically are personal there little
need to actually have the TW title in the printouts by default. Just
maybe it should be an option in [[Tweak advanced options]]

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[tw] Any plugin to manage plugins?

[Amzg]

Ah, finally it struck me that the hazzle to manage plugins might not
have be that way!

Is there any plugin that lists plugins (other than the core feature)?

What I'm hoping, but doubt, exist would be something that;
* let's me deal with batches of plugins (more and more plugins seem to
come with "packages")
* lists the tags of the plugins
* and there is a field where *comments* can be inserted *directly*
next to each listed plugin

Particularly the latter point is desirable!

Actually, maybe there is something more general enabling the above not
only with plugins but with any type of tiddler.

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[tw] Tree menu - any concluding simple plugin?

[Amzg]

Was there ever any "conclusion" on a plugin for a tree structured
menu?
Yes, I have seen the exciting discussions and development on the
topic, and while the end results do look wonderful... it seems I must
humbly admit that the whole procedure to actually install it is too
difficult for a mere mortal TW user like myself (in spite of having
used TW for a few years now).

Is there simply no easy self contained plugin for this, like with most
other TW plugins? No need for nice-looking-folder icons or such, just
a simple tree menu where the branches expand/fold and where tiddlers
are added by tagging them.

The promising
http://treeview.tiddlyspot.com/#TreeviewPluginPlugin2
has well meaning instructions but "accessing jQuery libraries and
inserting into MarkupPostBody" etc is simply too demanding for me and
average Joe. Plus I'm unsure if it would work offline...

Thank you!

Mat
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[tw] very cool tag cloud

[Amzg]

Frankly, I truly dislike webclouds. To me it is a messy thing
presenting mostly irrelevant information. However, that is not to say
they cannot be cool. It may be old hat to some, but I just noted this
variant for the first time;

http://www.mobilewebtablet.com/

(...actually, 'revolving concept' could have practical use for e.g an
alphabetical listing or something like TW's timeline. OR, just maybe
even for browsing around among the actual tiddlers in the main area...)
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[tw] TW on Amazon Kindle or similar?

[Amzg]

Any experiences with TW in a Kindle [1] or similar (I understand Sony
has something comparable)? I only found one thread dealing with this
in here and it is over a year old.

Being an avid TW user (in the form of mGTD) I have a dream of putting
up several connected "surfboards" available around the apartment walls
for easy-access TW "databasing".

Any other slim devices that could fulfill this? Kindle, and
comparable, seem smooth as they're designed specifically for easy
carry around (easier than laptops/notebooks etc). I read it is
possible to use simpler web pages, but I'm unsure of what this
means...

Thanks



[1] http://alturl.com/d39b

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[tw] Compilation/comparison for menu / tree / mindmap TW apps

[Amzg]

Please help completing the following for a compiled comparison over
apps that generates an overview or representation for all or several
related tiddlers (any established term for this?)
A typical application for these could be as, or instead of, a menu.


HyperTiddlyWiki / Hypergraph (Dawn Ahukanna)
http://project.dahukanna.net/tiddlywiki/twextensions.htm#HypergraphPackage
 or http://project.dahukanna.net/tiddlywiki/hypertiddlywiki/index.htm
Gives compact mindmap type representation with all(!) tiddlers
potentially visible.
Based on the external java and xml software Hypergraph and thus
requires external files and folders. Maybe this can now be fully
integrated as a regular plugin with the latest jquery core feature?
As it is, does HTW work for latest TW core / is HTW maintained?
I particularly like the oval display shape in combo with font size
'proportional to' where the focus is, and the possibility to drag/
shift focus. Extremely compact and yet maximum information at the same
time.

TiddlyTagMindMap / TagMindMap (Jon Robson)
http://tiddlytagmindmap.tiddlyspot.com/
Similar in appearece to HyperTiddlyWiki, i.e mindmap type, but it is a
regular TW plugin (correct? Or does it require separate files etc?).
On the negative side, it is less compact than HTW and not possible to
get an overview over all tiddlers. (This creates a myoptic feeling
IMO  or maybe I'm missing some setting?)
Status described as experimental. Seems to be worked on currently.

TagCloudPlugin (Shulman, Checketts)
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#TagCloudPlugin
Core 2.1. Maintained.
Cloud for tags or specifically declared tiddlernames. Font size
proportional to numbers of related tiddlers. The tags to be shown can
be set to fulfill certain criteria.
For those who like tag clouds I guess this is perfect. (Personally I
just think they're messy.)

RelatedTiddlersPlugin (Shulman)
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#RelatedTiddlersPlugin
Starting from a selected tiddler, display a list and/or tree of linked
or transcluded tiddlers.
Regularly maintained
(Functionality wise, interpret ShowAllByTags as an "all inlcusive"
instance of RTP, i.e simply a listing with everything sorted under tag
headings.)
For TRP to be practical as some type of menu tool, I think it would
benefit from a slider/expand feature such as Collins TagsTreePlugin
(see next)

TagsTreePlugin (Pascal Collin)
http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#TagsTreePlugin
"Menu type" (tree) representation. Core 2.1.0, Last update Jan. 2008 -
maintained?
You define which tags you want represented in the tree and in action,
the tree then auto-shows the tiddlers under their respective tag
heading. (Do I describe this correctly? If a tiddler is tagged with
two tags, will it then show in two places in the tree?)
I like that the branches are collapse/expandable.

TagglyTaggingPlugin (Simon Baird)
http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTaggingPlugin
Starting from a selected tiddler or tag name, it gives a list or tree
such as by tag or sitemap or just plain lists. Preferred shape is set
in a small menu over the actual lists, i.e not in the code. (Good!) A
tool I personally use all the time.
A thing I would love to see; The extremely usable sitemap view easily
gets too long - sliders to collapse/expand the branches would be
ideal. It could easily be used as a full side bar menu then.

TagGridPlugin (Shulman)
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#TagGridPlugin
A cross-referenced grid of tiddlers, based on tag values.



Please provide additional relevant information and your spontaneous
thoughts.


Thanks


/Mat
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[tw] Generic floating tiddler? (E.g a menu, to save real estate)

[Amzg]

Several menus or e.g mind maps are both usable and beautiful but take
up a lot of valuable real estate. On the one hand you need access to
the menus all the time, but on the other hand they are in the way for
everything else all the time.

Is there any plugin or generic solution to make specified tiddlers
floating and collapsable and *dockable* (is that a word?) to the
browser frame. A concrete example;

In e.g Windows and Mac, you have the bars typically at the bottom that
(depending on settings) can appear when touching the edge of the
window, but otherwise sink back and "disappear". A floating tiddler
with e.g an otherwise bulky mindmap-type menu could appear when e.g
the top or right edge of the browser window is touched.

E.g something as beautiful - but big - as HyperTiddlyWiki [1] could be
laid there. A related idea, would be a menu or tree or mind-map etc
that only shows a part, such as closely related tiddlers, but when
'touched' in some certain way, it expands into the full display.

/Mat


[1] Dawn Ahukanna 
http://project.dahukanna.net/tiddlywiki/hypertiddlywiki/index.htm
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[tw] "UpdateThis" button in tiddler template

[Amzg]

While just passing by to catch up, I noticed a remark on how it is
important to use the latest versions of plugins in public TWs (so to
not cause problems for plugin-authors with people reporting already
solved issues etc).

It struck me that just maybe it would be possible to have a simple
"update this plugin" button in toolbar for plugins. It wouldn't quite
solve the above problem fully but it would probably diminish it and
also for non-public wikis it would perpahs smoothen things -
particularly if combined with some check whenever a macro is called,
i.e some toggle switch that when 'on' makes every macro call also send
a ping to the original plugin source and compare revision numbers. Ok,
maybe the latter is a bit complicated, but I'd guess several parts of
the idea are already implemented in the existing update/import
features.


Ok, I'm just throwing this out here. It's not a question nor anything
of immediate concern.

Best

/Mat
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[tw] needed macro for smooth iframing

[Amzg]

...is a bit of a mouthful, I'm sure you agree.

Is it possible to created some kind of shortcut macro, or maybe it
wouldn't even be a macro, that TW could autodetect? Just like TW
autodetects WikiFormatted words, maybe it could be possible with
something to detect something like;

file:myfile

i.e anything starting with "file:" is automatically 'inserted' into
the above iframe hullaballoo and there could perhaps even be a default
filepath for it. For a webpage it could perhaps be "web:" (and then of
course with a different default path prefix).

I recall some description from Mr.Shulman where he explained that it
is possible to use TW + iframing for your bookmarks, i.e having a list
of bookmarks (i.e html-links) and clicking one opens it right away
inside TW. If individual bookmarks were designated individual
tiddlers, it'd be smooth to tag bookmarks and just generally take
advantage of TW rendered lists. However, it is IMO pretty cumbersome
to add even a regular filepath into TW, not to mention full iframes
such as per above.

A smooth solution to this should really bring out the potential to
extend TW outside the TW itself and to use TW as an information
management tool in a much more general way, me thinks!


Just  a reflection...


/Mat
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[tw] TiddlerEncryptionPlugin - some tips

[Amzg]

Mr.Pearces fantastic TiddlerEncryptionPlugin allows for encryption of
individual tiddlers. In place of the tiddler contents you (optionally)
get a [Decrypt] button. Tiddlers encrypted with the same password all
open up once one of them is decrypted.

I have a family/friends reference TW and some tiddlers are specific
for specific individuals, meaning I encrypt them with different
password. Now, as it is, a [Decrypt] button only appears in the actual
tiddler that is encrypted. What I wanted was to list all the different
[Decrypt] buttons on the welcoming page, i.e allowing a general
welcoming page listing the individuals (or group) names next to a
[Decrypt] button that, when pressed, unlocks all tiddlers right away.
To me this makes more sense than having someone tiddle around only to
eventually stumble upon an encoded tiddler. And, because it is a
reference site with lots of listings (such as to-buy lists etc), it is
IMO better to have e.g items in a list decrypted from the start as
opposed to getting a list of stuff where some things in the middle of
the list have a button.

So, here's a solution;

Create empty tiddlers that contain the all relevant Encryption tags
and name them appropriately.
On e.g the welcoming page use the <> macro next to
each name.
This results in a [Decrypt] button next to each name - but as soon as
it is pressed and password entered, the <> macro will
display; nothing (thanks to the referenced tiddler being empty) -
effectively simply deleting the button. Pretty elegant IMO.

Best

/Mat


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[tw] Re: Modifying TiddlyWiki files

[Amzg]

I'm not the guy, but for your sake you may want to specify a little
more what it is you want. I mean, maybe there's simply a plugin for it
already?

/Mat

On Jan 21, 11:55 pm, Russell Anderson 
wrote:
> How would I go about finding someone to help me modify some TiddlyWiki
> files? I am willing to pay them for their efforts. I am sure that I could
> figure it out given enough time, but I need to get some of this work done in
> the next few weeks.
> Forgive me if this is not appropriate.
>
> Thanks.
> Russell
>
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[tw] Re: Very first effort failed - I created.. nothing

[Amzg]

There is a most definite threshold to get when getting into TW.
Backing up quite a lot is probably a good idea because it is all one
single document so if something goes bad... then everything can be
lost. But the other side of the coin is that because it is one single
document, it is also very easy to make backups...

:-)

On Jan 20, 8:29 pm, LiSe  wrote:
> Thanks all for your suggestions and for feeling sorry for me!
> I think I did not unblock it the right way when I downloaded it. There
> were no backups in that folder, so I guess that is where it went
> wrong.
>
> I made a new one, and because I knew now how to do things and where to
> find everything, it didn't take that long. And it was even fun! Once
> you 'get it' it is incredibly easy.
>
> Happy again
> LiSe
>
> On Jan 20, 4:54 pm, "christian.mic...@gmail.com"
>
>  wrote:
> > On Jan 20, 1:01 pm, LiSe  wrote:
>
> > > Hi all,
>
> > > I guess I must be the dumbest  TiddlyWiki-er ever. Downloaded it,
> > > exactly did everything they told me to do, then created a beautiful
> > > one with all chapters of the book I am writing. Took me all morning
> > > but the result was great. Over and over again saved changes, as it
> > > should be done, with the link in the file.
>
> > > Then closed all of it. Now I try to reopen it, but I get only the
> > > "getting started" page. The saved one in my Documents shows the title
> > > and subtitle I gave it, but as last 'modified' at early morning -
> > > probably when I downloaded it.
> > > The "getting started" page does not show the name my own Tiddle has.
>
> > > Where did all my work go???
>
> > > LiSe
>
> > let's assume you have kept the name "empty.html" from the download.
>
> > inside your browser, the file empty.html you worked on: you'd get the
> > default tiddler, which is gettingstarted.
>
> > now, append inside the address bar after empty.html the following
> > string: #TabTimeline
>
> > It should look like this: (...)empty.html#TabTimeline
>
> > doing this will show you the tiddlers you created and you should get
> > back your work :)
>
> > alternatively, if it's a true tiddler corruption (disk full?), revert
> > to your backups.
>
> > Christian- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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[tw] Re: Very first effort failed - I created.. nothing

[Amzg]

I believe the default settings are made so to create a backup folder
where all the intermediate auto-saved files are stored. Look in the
folder where you keep your TW to see if there is a folder there named
twbackup. Everyone of the files in there is a separate TW, and if you
sort them by date you should hopefully find a late copy of your work.

/Mat

On Jan 20, 1:01 pm, LiSe  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I guess I must be the dumbest  TiddlyWiki-er ever. Downloaded it,
> exactly did everything they told me to do, then created a beautiful
> one with all chapters of the book I am writing. Took me all morning
> but the result was great. Over and over again saved changes, as it
> should be done, with the link in the file.
>
> Then closed all of it. Now I try to reopen it, but I get only the
> "getting started" page. The saved one in my Documents shows the title
> and subtitle I gave it, but as last 'modified' at early morning -
> probably when I downloaded it.
> The "getting started" page does not show the name my own Tiddle has.
>
> Where did all my work go???
>
> LiSe
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[tw] Re: Suchen-Resultate der Abego YourSearch falsch?

[Amzg]

Die Plugin ist (natürlich) auch um die Abego Seite installiert, und da
funktioniert es korrekt für mich. Vielleicht können Sie erst ihere
Teste dahin probieren? Ich habe mit "auto or lista" probiert und es
sieht korrekt aus.

/Mat



On Jan 19, 11:31 pm, Mammut  wrote:
> Hallo zusammen,
>
> arbeite seit kurzem an TW und bereite damit unseren (kleinen)
> firmeninternen Wissenspeicher auf. Um das Tool in der Firma sinnvoll
> einzusetzen ist eine gute Suche unverzichtbar. Bin dabei auf die
> abegoExtension gestossen die Super ist, doch leider erhalte ich
> falsche Resultate für die boolean search.
>
> Boolean search:
> itsm or qrc
>
> mein Verständnis:
> Suche alle Tiddler mit Zeichengruppe "itsm" oder mit "qrc"
>
> die Suche ergibt 0 Treffer, obwohl tiddler mit itsm und auch tiddler
> mit qrc bestehen (aber eben nicht in einem tiddler).
>
> Weiss jemand weiter, bzw. gibt es dazu evtl. schon Einträge in dieser
> Gruppe (habe keine gefunden)?
>
> Vielen Dank für Eure Hilfe (für einen Noob :-) ...)
> Mammut
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[tw] Re: if tagged A and B, then auto add tag C

[Amzg]

Ok, just want to report that in the end I used a combo of a few
suggestions above.
Mr.Shulman and cmari - it would not have been possible without your
generous help. Thank you!!!

Thus;

In a tiddler I first have a few of these (to set various combinations
of what should be encrypted with what);

<>

(the setTiddlerTag does result in a few NaN, but that's no biggie)


and then, mostly for overview, two lists that diplay all tiddlers
tagged Me and Her, respectively, and with the togglebox option of
adding a Private tag to it;


<"+">|[["+tiddler.title+"]]|[["+tiddler.tags.join
("]], [[")+"]]|\n"'
begin
'"|Add tag Private|Tiddler Title|Tiddler Tags|h\n"'
end
'count+" tiddlers\n"'
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[tw] Re: Can't edit any pages

[Amzg]

Please explain a little more background to your problem.

Are you new to TW? Maybe you're actually trying to edit a TW that is
on a server that you don't have access to? Is there a "View" option
where the Edit option normally is?

/Mat



On Jan 19, 2:17 am, Siddharth Patil  wrote:
> I can't edit any of the pages. The Edit option is missing from the
> menu, and if I double-click on the tiddler, it won't let me edit any
> of the text.
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[tw] Re: if tagged A and B, then auto add tag C

[Amzg]

Nope.
Also tried with
'store.setTiddlerTag(tiddler.title,true,"bar")+" "'
and with
'" "+store.setTiddlerTag(tiddler.title,true,"bar")'

Neither putting it in the bigger forEach context suggested by cmari
works (results in 'undefined' in the middle of the rendered table)
i.e;

<>


While at this (a question that perhaps better is asked Mr.Borkowski?);
Is everything in the 'write' executed for each found matching tiddler?
I.e is the setTiddlerTag executed multiple times from this? Maybe it
is more economical to run the setTiddlerTag as a separate forEach?...


/Mat



On Jan 19, 12:57 am, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > But, it also leaves an "undefined" in the tiddler where the script is.
>
> store.setTiddlerTag() does not return a value, so you get "undefined"
> as output when it occurs in the 'write' clause.  To return a blank
> string instead of undefined, try adding an extra ""; following the
> call to setTiddlerTag(), like this:
>
> <         where
>         'tiddler.tags.containsAll(["foo"])'
>         write
>         'store.setTiddlerTag(tiddler.title,true,"bar");"";'
>
> -e
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[tw] Re: if tagged A and B, then auto add tag C

[Amzg]

I tried around a bit and the best result I get does insert a 'bar'
tag !  :-D
But, it also leaves an "undefined" in the tiddler where the script is.
The script reads;

<>

Is this something I 'undefined' something I should care about? It is
not a big deal aesthetically, I'm just worried it is not good for some
other reason.

Almost there :-)

/Mat


On Jan 19, 12:08 am, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > < >         where
> >         'tiddler.tags.containsAll(["foo"])'
> >         write
> >         'tiddler.tags.XXX("bar")'
> > XXX is 'supposed to' be some magic word resulting in adding 'bar' as a
> > tag to all the relevant tiddlers.
>
> Try this:
>    store.setTiddlerTag(tiddler.title,true,"bar")
>
> The three function parameters are:
>  * title of tiddler
>  * true=set tag, false=clear tag
>  * tag value
>
> enjoy,
> -e
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[tw] Re: if tagged A and B, then auto add tag C

[Amzg]

Maybe I should clarify that a little. Here's what I'm attempting;

<>

XXX is 'supposed to' be some magic word resulting in adding 'bar' as a
tag to all the relevant tiddlers.
(I even tried tiddler.tags.c'monyouknowwhatIwant("bar") ...but no
cigar!)

Thanks

/Mat



On Jan 18, 11:36 pm, Amzg  wrote:
> I really appreciate everyones help! I'm fooling around with all the
> great suggestions and will report how it works out.
>
> - Meanwhile; how do Iinserta tag directly (via forEachPlugin)? What
> is the command? (and without erasing all existingtags but if
> there's an option to overwrite a specific tag, that would be good
> actually)
>
> I've tried;
> tiddler.tags.X("foo")  with X as 'insert', 'add', 'write' but nope...
> or maybe ("foo") is syntactically wrong... or maybe it's not
> possible...?
>
> Thanks
>
> /Mat
>
> On Jan 18, 4:31 am, cmari  wrote:
>
> > Hi Mat!
> > It sounds to me as though you're looking for two separate, though
> > related, things (but possibly more!):
> > 1. (Retroactively) addtagsto existing tiddlers.
> > 2. From now on, automatically add certaintagswhen creating new
> > tiddlers
> > If you'd prefer (manual) checkboxes to the more automatic AutoTagger,
> > I can think of a couple of other options:
>
> > For the first task: the script you found (I recognized it because I
> > was the one who requested it) was one that Eric offered for changing/
> > adding custom fields to existing tiddlers. It was extremely useful for
> > making one-time, global changes, and it certainly could be tweaked so
> > that it would affecttagsinstead of fields.  But you could also use
> > the CheckboxPlugin and a forEachTiddler macro and check the boxes
> > yourself, as in:
> > < > "MyStuff"])'
> > write '"|< > [["+tiddler.title+"]]|[["+tiddler.tags.join("]], [[")+"]]|\n"' begin
> > '"|Add Encrypt(foo)|Title|Tags|h\n"'>>
>
> > For the second part: if you're using mptw, you could take advantage of
> > the ToggleTag and HideWhen plugins and add something to your
> > ViewTemplateToolbar like:
> >   > macro="toggleTag Encrypt(foo)">
> >   > macro="toggleTag Encrypt(bar)">
> > cmari
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[tw] Re: if tagged A and B, then auto add tag C

[Amzg]

I really appreciate everyones help! I'm fooling around with all the
great suggestions and will report how it works out.

- Meanwhile; how do I insert a tag directly (via forEachPlugin)? What
is the command? (and without erasing all existing tags but if
there's an option to overwrite a specific tag, that would be good
actually)

I've tried;
tiddler.tags.X("foo")  with X as 'insert', 'add', 'write' but nope...
or maybe ("foo") is syntactically wrong... or maybe it's not
possible...?

Thanks

/Mat



On Jan 18, 4:31 am, cmari  wrote:
> Hi Mat!
> It sounds to me as though you're looking for two separate, though
> related, things (but possibly more!):
> 1. (Retroactively) add tags to existing tiddlers.
> 2. From now on, automatically add certain tags when creating new
> tiddlers
> If you'd prefer (manual) checkboxes to the more automatic AutoTagger,
> I can think of a couple of other options:
>
> For the first task: the script you found (I recognized it because I
> was the one who requested it) was one that Eric offered for changing/
> adding custom fields to existing tiddlers. It was extremely useful for
> making one-time, global changes, and it certainly could be tweaked so
> that it would affect tags instead of fields.  But you could also use
> the CheckboxPlugin and a forEachTiddler macro and check the boxes
> yourself, as in:
> < "MyStuff"])'
> write '"|< [["+tiddler.title+"]]|[["+tiddler.tags.join("]], [[")+"]]|\n"' begin
> '"|Add Encrypt(foo)|Title|Tags|h\n"'>>
>
> For the second part: if you're using mptw, you could take advantage of
> the ToggleTag and HideWhen plugins and add something to your
> ViewTemplateToolbar like:
>   macro="toggleTag Encrypt(foo)">
>   macro="toggleTag Encrypt(bar)">
> cmari
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[tw] Re: if tagged A and B, then auto add tag C

[Amzg]

Ah! Thank you, I thought it was more complex than it was. How elegant.

However, the type of tag a tiddler is supposed to get depends on *two*
tags - i.e tiddlers that are tagged both with 'Private' and either of
MyStuff, HerStuff or OurStuff. Renaming it one at a time would not
work as.

In a way it seems I need your plugin backwards ;-)

...or some kind of gradual filtering - first filtering everything with
one tag as criteria, and storing these, and then filtering the result
with the rest...

I tried to cheat it by pretending two tags were actually one, but
without success.

I'll put on the thinking cap again.

My sincere thanks for helping me though, Mr.Shulman.

(Ref. back to the beginning of the thread; turning a checkbox (via
CheckboxPlugin) into kind of a catalyst to switch other tags would be
cool. I'm getting ideas (albeit vague) of using it as a flip switch to
activate a set of tiddlers, perhaps enabling apparently two TWs in one
TW document. Or a little trigger checkbox switches tags that in turn
switch tags that in turn... mushroom cloud! ...yes, it's getting late
here and HerStuff is away tonight... Seriously though, a checkbox
would offer functionality beyond having to edit/close a tiddler,
particularly as CheckboxPlugin allows remote checkbox setting.)


/Matias



On Jan 17, 8:49 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > I downloaded ATP, checked the autoaliases configuration box and filled
> > in the name AutoTaggerAliases, which I then created as a tiddler
> > wherein I put the code you suggested... but nothing happens, also not
> > after save+reload.
>
> > Or maybe I don't quite understand the syntax you suggest;
>
> > >MyStuff(private)=MyStuff Private Encrypt(foo)
> > - what is "MyStuff(private)" actually? Why do you write 'private' and
> > not 'Private'?
>
> The above syntax means that, if you enter "MyStuff(private)" as a
> single tag, it will be converted into three tags, "MyStuff",
> "Private", and "Encrypt(foo)".  The different capitalization of
> "private" vs. "Private" was unintentional: you can use any
> capitalization you want... if your input *exactly* matches the tag
> alias, the substitutions will be applied.
>
> > Does it mean all existing tiddlers tagged 'MyStuff' that get a new tag 
> > 'private'?
>
> Existing tiddlers are not altered automatically until you press 'done'
> after editing them.
>
> > >Note: AutoTagger is only invoked when using the tiddler editor..
>
> > This means the editor where the MyStuff (HerStuff, OurStuff) is,
> > right?
>
> Right.  You edit a tiddler, enter tags and press 'done'.  This invokes
> AutoTagger, which processes the tags you just entered, finds any
> matches in the AutoTaggerAliases list and does the replacement.  Then
> the tiddler saved into the internal 'tiddler store' as usual.
>
> Thus, if I enter
>    A B C
> as tags on tiddler [[FooBar]], and AutoTaggerAliases says:
>    A=Yabba Dabba
>    C=C Doo
> then the resulting tags on [[Foobar]] will be:
>    Yabba Dabba B C Doo
>
> enjoy,
> -e
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[tw] Re: if tagged A and B, then auto add tag C

[Amzg]

My sincerest thanks Mr.Shulman, but it doesn't work. Maybe I'm doing
something wrong;

I downloaded ATP, checked the autoaliases configuration box and filled
in the name AutoTaggerAliases, which I then created as a tiddler
wherein I put the code you suggested... but nothing happens, also not
after save+reload.

Or maybe I don't quite understand the syntax you suggest;

>MyStuff(private)=MyStuff Private Encrypt(foo)

- what is "MyStuff(private)" actually? Why do you write 'private' and
not 'Private'? Does it mean all existing tiddlers tagged 'MyStuff'
that get a new tag 'private'? If 'yes', would this typical scenario
work then; I create a tiddler and tag it with both MyStuff and Private
simultaneously upon creation. I.e would these tags be converted into
Encrypt(foo)?
(Actually - I just realized they should become tagged with Encrypt
(foo) but also MyStuffEncrypted so that I can easily find what was all
MyStuff).


>Note: AutoTagger is only invoked when using the tiddler editor..

This means the editor where the MyStuff (HerStuff, OurStuff) is,
right? Or do you mean the AutoTaggerAliases tiddler? (If it is the
latter, then I cannot practically use this solution).


I'm thinking maybe I can use a foreEachTiddler macro, but I'm unsure
of how how to command insertion of new tags and elimination of old
ones;

[tw] if tagged A and B, then auto add tag C

[Amzg]

Scene; Tiddlers have either the tag MyStuff or HerStuff or OurStuff

If I add a tag 'Private'...

...whether I do this directly manually or via the smooth command [_
(|Private)]  (sorry, can't recall the name of this macro
(?) )...

...to a tiddler tagged 'MyStuff' then I would like this to induce
another tag; specifically 'Encrypt(foo)'  (Note; the Encrypt(x) is a
'tag-format' used in Mr. Pearces TiddlerEncryptionPlugin[1])

...BUT if the tiddler is instead tagged 'HerStuff' is should induce
Encrypt(bar)

and if the tiddler is tagged OurStuff it should induce Encrypt(foobar)


In the archives, I found this (from Mr.Shulman) but I don't know how
to adapt it;


   var tids=store.getTaggedTiddlers("MyStuff");
   for (var t=0; t

[tw] Re: access denied on upload to tiddlyspot

[Amzg]

Here are a few notes on it;

make sure your username and passwords are set. The username is the
same name as the TW itself, i.e username.tiddlyspot.com
and setting these things are done under;
More > TW > 'options>>'

Also, in case you've imported stuff from other TWs, make sre you
didn't import...hmmm... I'm forgetting the name of it, but I think it
is TSplugin, or TSpotUploadPlugin. This contains some settings that
are specific for you tiddlyspot mgtd, so if you import (i.e replace)
it from another TW, then well..

Report here how it's going. (If you're about to throw it out the
window, perhaps you've waited a bit too long before mentioning it here
- or in the GTD TW discussion group.

HTH

/Mat


On Jan 16, 2:58 pm, malexs  wrote:
> OK, so i am new as usual to tiddlyspot. What makes this most annoying
> is that i have searched forums but not found anything that comes close
> to helping It just seems absolutely useless...
>
> So i worked with monkeyGTD on tiddlyspot, then i downloaded it to work
> on it locally.
> Now i want to upload it and i keep getting an "access is denied" error
> when i click the upload button on the right side menu, or use the
> backstage upgrade or click the upgrade button on the welcome page...
> nothing seems to work.
>
> access denied to me would suggest either wrong upload url or wrong
> username/password. now i assume the url would be set when i downloaded
> it or set up my tiddlyspot .. and i have retyped and retyped the
> username/password that i use to log into the site with and still no
> luck..
>
> please help, i am about to throw this thing out the window...
> I have tried in IE7 and FF3 with the same results...
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[tw] Re: Submit your funniest TiddlyWiki nickname

[Amzg]

TinkelWinkel - mans best friend

TiddlyFiddly - a real unusable oil-in-ear per nasal web, not a book!

(actually, TiddlyFiddly was an early version that drove hackers to
develop TickedandWickid)

/Mat


On Jan 16, 2:27 am, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/";
 wrote:
> Today I thought I read a thread here called TiddlyScum, TiddlyWiki for
> scum.
>
> So I quickly responded by creating new adaptations: TiddlyJerk,
> TiddlyMaggot, TiddlyGeeky and Tiddliot.
>
> I realized later that the original post said TiddlyWiki for *scrum*.
> My mistake.
>
> Anyone want to submit their funniest take on Tiddlyness? Sometimes we
> need a break from the seriousness of this thread, with all the open
> source back and forth lately and the cookie controversies. Give it
> your best shot.
>
> Dave
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[tw] Re: Anyone using plugin requiring proxy on TiddlySpot?

[Amzg]

As stated elsewhere, but for the record;
Yes, that did it!

:-)

On Jan 14, 2:50 am, "Simon Baird"  wrote:
> Try without the http:// after the /proxy/
>
> A known bug, eg
>
> http://somesite.tiddlyspot.com/proxy/othersite.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> might work for you.
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Amzg  wrote:
>
> > Been attempting to link multiple TWs on Tiddlyspot unsuccessfully, and
> > concluding that it must be the proxy that does not work properly.
>
> > ...or, is there anyone here using Tiddlyspot with the proxy
> > successfully?
> > For which plugins?
>
> > Thank you
>
> > /Mat
>
> --
> simon.ba...@gmail.com
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[tw] Powerful menu generator?

[Amzg]

What options are available for autocreating menus based on tags?
Collapsible 'levels' (i.e sliders or similar) and ideally  with a
built in feature to easily create subtopics under an item?

"No-Brainer Notes" and "TW Notes"[1] are clearly aiming for it, but it
is definitely iffy to add new menu items.

I've found TagsTreePlugin[2] and SliderSiteMap[3] and TagglyTagging[4]
but as far as I can tell, none of them quite fill the criteria.

For the desired "easily create subtopics" feature, I should mention
that I found NewSavedTiddlerPlugin[5] and in my own dabbling I managed
to insert this into a forEach macro along with TagglyTagging like
below, which at least generates something... but I'd wish for it to be
recursive (not possible now because of using Taggly)... maybe a
forEach inside it again? ...but then there are problems with the then
repeated << and " and ' signs


<][<] <>


Anyway, does anyone know of any powerful solution for this? Actually,
I can't help ponder that it feels like a pretty ´standard plugin for
something like a (tiddly-?) wiki... doesn't it?

:-)

/Mat



[1]http://twnotes.tiddlyspot.com/
[2]http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#TagsTreePlugin
[3]http://mptw2.tiddlyspot.com/#SliderSiteMap
[4]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging
[5]http://monkeygtd.tiddlyspot.com/empty3.html#NewSavedTiddlerPlugin
(I assume this is the original source, but I'm not sure)
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[tw] Re: Set an optionbox so it is saved permanently

[Amzg]

Only two things I can add;
Fantastic +Thanks

:-)

On Jan 13, 12:27 am, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > <>
> > provides an option of presenting an [Encrypted] button in the tiddler
> > instead of the encrypted code.
> > how do I set the above option permanently?
>
> Add the following to a tiddler tagged with systemConfig:
>
> config.options.chkShowDecryptButtonInContent=true;
>
> -e
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWikis for Writers?

[Amzg]

Maybe some clues here,

http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWikiFiction

/Mat

On Jan 12, 11:06 pm, Måns  wrote:
> I've used Lisa Janice Cohens TiddlyWikiWrite for my students.(Danish
> boarding school)http://www.ljcohen.net/TiddlyWikiWrite-2-4-0.html
> Read about her concept 
> here:http://www.scribd.com/doc/5271682/Organize-Your-Novel-with-a-Wiki
> I've made my own danish version - custumized for my pupils 
> here:http://buksetrolden.tiddlyspot.com/
> There's a special program for making TiddlyWikis automatically from
> text with hypertextlinks here (TweeBox) :http://gimcrackd.com/etc/src/
>
> Maybe You knew about these readymade writertools already - but if You
> didn't - You should - they are awesome.
>
> On Jan 12, 5:36 pm, mikemunsil  wrote:
>
> > Can anyone point me towards Tiddlywikis that would be useful for
> > writers?
>
> > I'm writing an ongoing series of articles on computer tech for witers
> > and TiddlyWiki is one tool that I'd like to focus on.
>
> > Here's one I modified for the members of my own writing 
> > forums:http://wiki.libertyhallwriters.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?id=resources%3Ar...
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[tw] Set an optionbox so it is saved permanently

[Amzg]

I use Mr. Pearces TiddlerEncryptionPlugin[1] that via;

<>

provides an option of presenting an [Encrypted] button in the tiddler
instead of the encrypted code.

But, apparently, the setting does not survive as it is saved and then
opened on another computer - i.e the encrypted tiddlers are presented
with the encoded text visible instead of the button, and the above
optionbox is unchecked.
(I'm using it for a public TW hosted on TiddlySpot)

But, some checkboxes clearly "make it" between computers such as those
in the Options panel.

So, how do I set the above option permanently?

Thank you!

/Mat


[1] http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.html
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[tw] Re: TW interface annoyances - what are yours?

[Amzg]

Eric, thanks for your input. I was really not expecting actual help on
the matters, but I was delighted to get it. Particularly that little
"jump to top" in the templates is wonderful. Altho I can understand
such a thing may not be a core thingy, maybe an idea would be to put
it into some kind of "tweak package" that an average user probably
would typically appreciate. Just a thought.
BTW, is there any way to somehow put it into stylesheet or something
so that it won't be overwritten with updates (because it will be now,
right?)

As for;
> [[GettingStarted]] just presents *instructions* for what to do...

Yeah, that's exactly my point. And it would be more user friendly if
it was *not* merely instructions, but instead a type of form field
tiddler where things can actually be filled in directly instead, in
one place, or if things could be edited directly where they are - for
example, letting an empty TWs top field read  instead of the current "My
TiddlyWiki" and "a reusable..."
I dunno. But I do feel it is a bit annoying as it is,

Regarding your neat little GotoPlugin; would you say it can fully
replace your wonderful SearchOptionsPlugin that I'm currently using?
(A thought; maybe a combo would be beneficial? - i.e something that
behaves like GP with its narrow "popup slider" but with that current
bottom "Search for" feature resulting in that (kind of) top tiddler
that SO results in. The GP current floating search result are kind of
obscures things. While at it, a smallie; for GP, maybe a little [>]
type button next to the fill-in-field as one is now forced to mouse
down to click "Search" otherwise.)


Regaring;
> > * Options slider is filled with blue links, attracting attention if
> > nothing else, but none of them exist...
> > * TiddlyWiki is also a link that does not

 I'm sure there are good "behind the scene explanations". I'm just
pointing out that they *are*, for me as a regular user, diverting my
attention. Not much, but a bit.


Again, thank you for all your input Mr.Shulman! I was kind of more
expecting it to turn into a thread of generally expressed preferences
and differences of opinion. Your help was of course a much betting
thing LOL.


/Mat





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[tw] TW interface annoyances - what are yours?

[Amzg]

For core TW (and also to a great extent for MPTW):

Please note that most questions are just *rhetorical*.

* one is typically forced to scroll up after having edited a tiddler.
Ought to be some kind of "jump to top" at bottom of each tiddler,
particularly in edit view. Even a small tiddler template change such
as swapping places for the tiddler name and the menu actually makes a
surprisingly positive difference (I've edited my templates). It is
surprising how often I previously found myself forced to scroll a mere
centimeter to reach the menu.

* if I have a bunch of tiddlers and I'm focussed on the lowermost one,
and close this one... I get to watch the bottom of the new lowermost
tiddler or even a screen of nothing. Instead, default ought to put e.g
the lowermost tiddler into focus (including its tiddler title).

* I am the typical single TW user... and thus I typically go under the
name "YourName" in most of my TWs and tiddlers. Name specification
ought to be an optional feature. (This is btw particularly confusing
for server side implementations, such as tiddlyspot, that require a
username that may not be the same as whatever is in place of
YourName..)

* On a related note, when starting out with an empty TW, why can't I
just fill in the GettingStarted tiddler straight away instead of
having to open everything manually. Or, why can't I click, say, the
SiteTitle up there and edit it directly?
BTW, A newbie recently attempted to edit the very tiddler-name
"SiteTitle" into his desired site title. Actually makes sense.

* In sidebar, I frequently go into Timeline and All, but very rarely
into Tags.
On the other hand, under More... I go into Shadow quite often (but
only for a few specific tiddlers in there).

* Options slider is filled with blue links, attracting attention if
nothing else, but none of them exist... And the recurring word
TiddlyWiki is also a link that does not exist. I'd say 100% of us has
clicked it at one one early stage, only to become a tad confused.


What are your interface annoyances?


P.S The above is written to be constructive as opposed to negative. I
love TW.


/Mat

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[tw] Re: Autogrow textarea

[Amzg]

In line with what I assume is an intentionally minimalistic interface,
I would agree with the above.

/Mat

On Jan 12, 9:33 am, "Alex Hough"  wrote:
> TwHeroWarriors
>
> The Autogrow textarea feature here is something i think could be good on a 
> TWhttp://www.appelsiini.net/projects/jeditable/custom.html
>
> Alex
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[tw] Re: Installing an xpi addition...

[Amzg]

I followed FNDs instructions and they were spot on. My sincere thanks.
And also to Morris of course, for your more general approach.
I have added both to tiddlywiki.org accordingly [1] i.e also the more
general one. If it is not considered suitable there, then anyone is of
course free to cut it out. I reasoned it is relevant for the sake of
installing TiddlySnip.

Thank you!

/Mat



[1] http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/TiddlySnip#Firefox_3_Support


On Jan 12, 9:41 am, Morris Gray  wrote:
> From my post on the TiddlySnips Group
>
> I have developed the habit of saving the xpi files in a folder like
> FFAddons then for installation on Firefox clicking File>Open
> File>*.xpi
>
> Give that a try maybe coming from the local disk might help.
>
> Morris
>
> On Jan 12, 7:38 pm, FND  wrote:
>
> > > How do I actually install and xpi file that, presumably is some type
> > > of addition to an existing TW plugin? (specifically, the TiddlySnip
> > > 1.21beta.xpi [1] )
>
> > XPI is Mozilla's extension format* - so technically, it has little to do
> > with TiddlyWiki plugins.
>
> > The easiest way to install an XPI in Firefox is probably to open the
> > Add-ons dialog from the Tools menu and drag the XPI file in there.
>
> > > I believe it is a question of general concern so I intend to add
> > > good answers to tiddlywiki.org
>
> > Great!
>
> > -- F.
>
> > *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XPI
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[tw] Installing an xpi addition...

[Amzg]

How do I actually install and xpi file that, presumably is some type
of addition to an existing TW plugin? (specifically, the TiddlySnip
1.21beta.xpi [1] )

What do I actually do with that file?

Thank you

/Mat

P.S Not only do I gratefully hope for an answer, but I believe it is a
question of general concern so I intend to add good answers to
tiddlywiki.org [2]


[1]  http://tinyurl.com/67cbty
[2]  http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/TiddlySnip
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[tw] Re: 'Being edited' warning

[Amzg]

The question posed is a very important one, from a user and usability
perspective IMO.
Maybe TiddlyWeb (and the other related) are aimed to deal with this?
For one thing, I believe ccTiddly would be a possible solution.

Anyway, to deal with the question, here are some layman thoughts,
FWIW. Maybe it's possible to set up something like this;

Like what Mr. Girard suggests; One central TW and everyone makes his/
her changes into a copy. Additionally, this copy is set up so that its
timeline is refreshed continuously from the central TW at some
periodic time interval. Maybe plugins like Mr.Shulmans
LoadTiddlersPlugin, or ExportTiddlersPlugin plus Mr.Borkowskis
AutoRefreshPlugin could be used, with the latter autorefreshing the
sidebar-lists thus. This way, I figure, each user gets force fed with
an updated listing ensuring it is at least a recent edition.

(If the above is possible perhaps a primitive plugin could deal with
the following potential solution:
Now, if the user is about to save, maybe it's possible to have
something comparing the "last modified" time, i.e;
Say, tiddler A has a "last modified time" at 1 o'clock. This is stored
at t1
You open A to edit.
Meanwhile, there is a sync (as described above) with the central TW.
Now, as you wish to save tiddler A, t1 is compared to the "last
modified time" for A.
If A has a *new* "last modified time", this means someone else has
saved a new copy of A, and you're informed about it - and perhaps with
the option of opening the latest A to apply your intended changes to
it, or maybe you can save your version as A(1) etc...
)


/Mat


On Jan 12, 12:46 am, Ken Girard  wrote:
> When editing TW, you are editing the entire file, not just one
> tiddler.
> If I open the TW file at 9am and start editing Tiddler43, and you open
> the TW file at 9:01am and start editing Tiddler26, then who ever saves
> last will be the only one to have made changes to the file. If I save
> last then only Tiddler43 will show changes.
>
> A different idea: Have each person desiring to make edits import the
> tiddler they want to edit into their own personal TW, and then once
> they are done with that re-import the edited tiddler into the official
> TW. You still have to worry that someone will leave the file open, and
> then save it 6 hour later, wiping out all the changes made between
> times.
>
> Ken Girard
>
> On Jan 9, 5:07 pm, overett1  wrote:
>
> > We're planning to use Tiddlywiki with a group of potentially 100
> > people, but for reasons too tedious to go into can't use a server-
> > based version. We'll be using TiddlyLockPlugin to prevent multiple
> > people editing at the same time.
>
> > However, we don't want people to block access for long periods so if
> > substantial edits are going to be made (and some of the tiddlers are
> > upwards of 10,000 words) we'll ask people to make the changes in Word
> > and then paste them back in (I've a function to clean up the resulting
> > messy HTML - I'll save questions on that for another post next
> > week...).
>
> > Obviously if people are editing a tiddler 'offline' there's a risk
> > that someone else amends that tiddler in the meantime. I was therefore
> > trying to work out whether we could perhaps get people to tag a
> > tiddler with 'BeingEdited' or similar which would then display a
> > message to warn people not to make amendments.
>
> > I wondered about:
> > * inserting something in a div in ViewTemplate and using
> > HideWhenPlugin to only show it when a tiddler is tagged appropriately
> > * using the annotations section - can only shadow tiddlers do this or
> > is there a way to do this in normal tiddlers?
> > * using transclusion - I dismissed this as tagging is one thing but
> > having to type in <> will be expecting too much.
> > Also, our use of HTML tiddlers would make this difficult.
>
> > Grateful for any thoughts on how this might be done.
>
> > Jonathan
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[tw] Re: External tiddlers to TW on TiddlySpot ?

[Amzg]

WHOAA! It works!!!
I did a quick first test, for the ExternalTiddlersPlugin, and it
works!
I will do some more fine tuned testing, but let me right away give you
a BIG WARM THANK YOU Mr.Baird - and of course also to plugin author
Mr.Shulman.

Oh, this whole splitting up and then linking TWs is something I begun
fiddling with several months ago with various unsuccessful attempts on
and off, so this is a quantum leap for me.

/Mat


On Jan 9, 4:01 am, SimonBaird  wrote:
> Not sure what's causing the error yet, but try leaving out the http://
> after the /proxy/, ie
>
> http://somesite.tiddlyspot.com/proxy/othersite.tiddlyspot.com/#SomeTi...
>
> On Jan 2, 7:32 am, Amzg  wrote:
>
> > Beginning to conclude it is a tiddlyspot proxy issue (or at least a
> > compatability issue with a few of the plugins I've tried.) For
> > instance, using LoadTiddlersPlugin does not seem to work on TiddlySpot
> > (or is anyone using it successfully there?):
>
> > It does work when I load things into a *local* TW, from a tiddlyspot
> > TW,
> > but it does not seem to work to load things from a tiddlyspot TW into
> > a tiddlyspot TW, like this;
> > < > http://.tiddlyspot.com confirm temporary>>
> > nor like this
> > < > http://.tiddlyspot.com/proxy/http://.tiddlyspot.com confirm
> > temporary>>
> > nor from a non tiddlyspot TW into a tiddlyspot TW, like this;
> > < > tiddler:HelloTherehttp://www.tiddlywiki.comconfirmtemporary>>
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > /Mat
>
> > On Dec 30 2008, 11:12 pm, Amzg  wrote:
>
> > > Brief addition, because this particular plugin seems very promising.
> > > Installing;
>
> > > ExternalTiddlersPlugin (+TemporaryTiddlersPlugin)
>
> > > and giving the command
>
> > > <http://mymainTW.tiddlyspot.com/proxy/http://
> > > mysecondTW.tiddlyspot.com/index.html#test]]>>
> > > - or -
> > > <http://mymainTW.tiddlyspot.com/proxy/http://
> > > mysecondTW.tiddlyspot.com/#test]]>>
>
> > > (the "proxy stuff" is according to tiddlyspot instructions[1]  and
> > > 'mysecondTW' requires no password etc)
>
> > > results in the message:
>
> > > Error in Proxy : undefined method `downcase' for nil:NilClass
>
> > > (A tiddlyspot proxy problem?)
>
> > > Thanx
>
> > > /Mat
>
> > > [1]http://tinyurl.com/98no2u
> > > (http://faq.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5BI%20want%20to%20import%20tiddlers%20...
> > > )
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[tw] Re: I'm new to TiddlyWiki.... and the Plugins are escaping me!

[Amzg]

Actually, lately I've been getting the "Error getting list of
tiddlers..." message too! I haven't quite looked into it, but simply
imported manually instead. Hearing that you're getting this too, I
intend to look into it some time soon (but I'm just a user, no
programmer).

As for your *sidebar*; there is no such "import tiddler" option there.
When you import something manually, you simply choose "new tiddler"
and proceed as I described above. (The "import" command is - which I
must assume you've realized - found in the 'Backstage' area, i.e by
clicking 'Backstage' in the extreme right upper corner.)

/Mat

On Jan 8, 7:08 am, Richard  wrote:
> Thanks Mat
>
> When I do the import through backstage, I get error "Error getting
> list of tiddlers, click Cancel to try again".
> Also I don't have the "import tiddler" as an option on my sidebar..
>
> Richard
>
> On Jan 7, 9:05 am, Amzg  wrote:
>
> > You can either do it via the specialimportfeature;
> > click backstage >import> paste the url and click add (or whatever it
> > say) and then in the list presented (which is a listing of all
> > availabletiddlersat the url tiddlywiki) you just check the correct
> > one, scroll down to teh bottom and clickImport(or whatever it says).
> > Hopefully after a few moments, the whole "Importfeature" lists your
> > importedtiddlersand a button saying "Done", that you click.
> > If you imported plugins (i.etiddlerscontaining the systemConfig tag)
> > you must then save and *reload* the tiddlywiki to activate the plugin.
>
> > Manually, you create a new tiddler in your TW. In the source TW, you
> > click view or edit on the plugin-tiddler you wish, so that you see its
> > code, it's name and its tags. Manually copy-paste into you TW, save
> > and reload.
>
> > Either of these two options should do the trick.
>
> > /Mat
>
> > On Jan 6, 5:51 am, Automated  wrote:
>
> > > I'm new to the whole Plugin thing.
>
> > > I've been able to get my head around some tweaks and such, but I'm
> > > trying toimporta slider (simple, I know) from TiddlyVault.  Dave
> > > Gifford's websites have been an extreme help to me, but I just can't
> > > get this to work.
>
> > > I've tried to go to a TW site that has the Plugin listed, then gone to
> > > ImportTiddlers; pasted the url from the website that has the Plugin,
> > > fetch it, but it just sits there.
>
> > > Can anyone point me to a step-by-step process?
>
> > > Thanks a lot!- Hide quoted text -
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[tw] Anyone using plugin requiring proxy on TiddlySpot?

[Amzg]

Been attempting to link multiple TWs on Tiddlyspot unsuccessfully, and
concluding that it must be the proxy that does not work properly.

...or, is there anyone here using Tiddlyspot with the proxy
successfully?
For which plugins?

Thank you

/Mat
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[tw] Re: TagglyTagging - Main purpose and how to begin?

[Amzg]

Maybe if you try out http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#Download
i.e Mr.Bairds own version of TW, which in itself is very very nice and
where taggly is included by default

/Mat

On Jan 7, 10:45 pm, W_de  wrote:
> Thanks to those who answered.
>
> I installed TagglyTaggingPlugin (and all the other parts starting with
> "TagglyTagging..."), played around with it and tried to find the
> function of it. But I can't see what it does.
>
> I then also downloadedhttp://twt-notes.tiddlyspot.com/and played
> around with it. Very nice done! - But to be honest: I still didn't
> understand more about TagglyTagging (And twmath has certainly some
> very nice features, but my TW knowledge unfortunately is not deep
> enough to be able to adapt this to my own needs. E.g. I didn't even
> manage to disable the horizontal tabs and single page view mode and
> work with it in the "classic" way).
>
> I am somewhat disappointed that I don't grasp the idea and how to
> accomplish the TagglyTagging thing, because I sense that it must be
> quite useful. But for now it looks like I had to give up, until maybe
> I run into an updated step-by-step tutorial somewhere and somewhen...
>
> Thanks again for your inputs!
>
> W_de
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[tw] Re: How Big Can A TiddyWiki Get?

[Amzg]

>From what I understand, the main limitation is speed i.e it takes "too
long" to load - and this in turn is mainly a consequence of the amount
of tiddlers.

/Mat

On Jan 7, 5:48 pm, Morris Gray  wrote:
> > exactly the same title as above, however, it was dated 2005.  Way back
> > then there seemed to be a consensus that about 500kb was about big
> > enough.
>
> I think an empty TW I about 320 K now.
>
> One of the most popular sites in constant use is 
> TiddlyToolshttp://www.tiddlytools.com/is running at about 2.4 MB.  My own  TW
> Help is about 1.8 MBhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com/with 750 tiddlers.
>
> I believe wolfgang has set some sort of record it is 'Changing
> Themes', a showcase TiddlyWiki with hundreds of themes, palettes,
> scripts and plugins With it's 3.7 MB and a slow internet connection
> it's better to it open it from your drive by downloading it 
> first:http://change.tiddlyspot.com/download
>
> Morris Grayhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
> A TiddlyWiki help file for beginnershttp://twt-notes.tiddlyspot.com/
> tabbed notes for the taking
>
> On Jan 8, 2:44 am, "Vince O'Sullivan"  wrote:
>
> > I searched the group before asking this and found an entry with
> > exactly the same title as above, however, it was dated 2005.  Way back
> > then there seemed to be a consensus that about 500kb was about big
> > enough.
>
> > I was wondering if anyone is currently working with a bigger
> > TiddlyWiki and how it was going for them.
>
> > Vince.
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[tw] Re: TagglyTagging - Main purpose and how to begin?

[Amzg]

I use tagglyTagging daily and I find it extremely useful. I can warmly
recommend it as its functionality is not included in core TW.

Basically, in a tiddler "A", it renders a list of all other tiddlers
tagged "A". The list is located at the bottom of each tiddler, and is
part of the template (as far as I can tell), i.e if you open a tiddler
in view mode (such as when you write something in it) you will not see
any taggly-code there.

It also allows you various views of this list, such as a tree
structure of every other tiddler tagged "A" and *their* sub-tiddlers,
or you can have it so that they are grouped into what other tags they
might have, etc etc.
(Actually, one of the few things that is not fully satisfactory is
that there are several different displays but how to choose between
them is a bit iffy. Would probaby be better if the alternatives were
presented in drop down boxes or such).

The explanation on the site is in deed a bit 'meaty'. I would say you
can skip it and instead just install the plugin. As many things are
more or less automatically tagged when you use TW, you will see the
(positive) consequences of it.

I find tagglyTagging very, very valuable and can wholeheartedly
recommend it.

/Mat

On Jan 6, 7:48 pm, altiplano  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm a new TiddlyWiki user and I ask myself the same questions about
> this plugin present usefulness.
>
> I disabled it to see what would be missing but did not notice any
> difference.
> I may be short-sighted or simply not gaining the true benefit of it
> according to my present TiddlyWiki use, which is rather basic so far.
>
> Anyway, inputs from advanced/power users would be appreciated.
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[tw] Re: I'm new to TiddlyWiki.... and the Plugins are escaping me!

[Amzg]

You can either do it via the special import feature;
click backstage > import > paste the url and click add (or whatever it
say) and then in the list presented (which is a listing of all
available tiddlers at the url tiddlywiki) you just check the correct
one, scroll down to teh bottom and click Import (or whatever it says).
Hopefully after a few moments, the whole "Import feature" lists your
imported tiddlers and a button saying "Done", that you click.
If you imported plugins (i.e tiddlers containing the systemConfig tag)
you must then save and *reload* the tiddlywiki to activate the plugin.

Manually, you create a new tiddler in your TW. In the source TW, you
click view or edit on the plugin-tiddler you wish, so that you see its
code, it's name and its tags. Manually copy-paste into you TW, save
and reload.

Either of these two options should do the trick.

/Mat


On Jan 6, 5:51 am, Automated  wrote:
> I'm new to the whole Plugin thing.
>
> I've been able to get my head around some tweaks and such, but I'm
> trying to import a slider (simple, I know) from TiddlyVault.  Dave
> Gifford's websites have been an extreme help to me, but I just can't
> get this to work.
>
> I've tried to go to a TW site that has the Plugin listed, then gone to
> ImportTiddlers; pasted the url from the website that has the Plugin,
> fetch it, but it just sits there.
>
> Can anyone point me to a step-by-step process?
>
> Thanks a lot!
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[tw] TW notes: Create subtopics more easily

[Amzg]

After some nicking and help[1], here's a thing that renders a top
level menu for Mastertopics, and next to each item is also a little +,
to easily create a subtopic automatically tagged with MasterTopic. On
the sublevels it uses (and requires installing) Mr.Bairds
TagglyTaggingPlugin[2]. That can be set to e.g be in "sitemap" mode,
thereby listing subtopics in a tree structure.
It also requires Mr.Shulmans NestedSlidersPlugin[3]

<][<] <>

Drawbacks, as far as I can tell;

TagglyTaggin was (of course) not intentionally designed for this,
therefore;
1)  e.g the sitemap mode is reset every time you open the tiddler
containing the above code. I assume this is a minor problem after a
while, as the mastertopics have been decided on.
2) there is a 'heading' reading "Tagged as 'tag'" above the rendered
tagglylist, taking up real estate
(3 - TagglyTagging has several 'settings' but it is difficult to get
an overview of them.)

I

[1] directly or indirectly; Mr.Borkowski, Mr. Baird, Mr.Shulman
[2] http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTaggingPlugin
[3] http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#NestedSlidersPlugin
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[tw] Re: macro in macro - problem with single quote sign

[Amzg]

Wohooo - it works! Thank you Mr.Shulman

For the record, here's the end result;


<][<] <>
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[tw] Re: MasterIncludesPlugin (was: MasterIncludePlugin)

[Amzg]

Thanks for your kind answers FND!

> > 3) Would it work with TiddlySpot TWs for regular users, or would it
> > require storing separate files etc?
>
> I think it needs to be included with a script tag (rather than being a
> regular plugin) - but that doesn't have to be an external file, it could
> be embedded in MarkupPreHead[2].

Does this by any chance also mean I will not be required to call for
"proxy-stuff".. or is that just another matter as I suspect? (I have
concluded Tiddlyspots proxy does not function properly, or at least
not with LoadTiddlersPlugin)


> I'm still interested in the concept, but I don't really have the
> time/patience these days.

I hope someone knowledgeable will join in. I'd assume there is a great
need for a fully featured and easy to use such plugin.

Again, thank you!

/Mat
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[tw] macro in macro - problem with single quote sign

[Amzg]

Trying to improve the No-brainer/TWnotes menu, I wish to add a simple
"+" next to each menu item, that is supposed to create a sub-item
automatically tagged correctly.
I almost have it working, thanks to inserting Mr.Bairds
newSavedTiddler.into Mr. Borkowskis foreEachTiddler;

<>

What is problematic are the single-apostrophe signs which apparently
are required for both parameters. The >> have been exchanged for $))
so I'm hoping there is something similar for the apostrophe.

I also did some archive searching and found a suggestion to:

"...use this "text"param to get the default text from another tidder
(e.g.[BlankTopic]] )

text:{{store.getTiddlerText("BlankTopic")}}

where [[BlankTopic]] contains the desired default <>
content, but doesn't need to have the surrounding double-quotes, so
you are free to use them within the <> params as
usual... "

- but my attempts don't work out. Here's one such;



<>

where T1 and T2 respectively read;

[tw] Re: External tiddlers to TW on TiddlySpot ?

[Amzg]

Beginning to conclude it is a tiddlyspot proxy issue (or at least a
compatability issue with a few of the plugins I've tried.) For
instance, using LoadTiddlersPlugin does not seem to work on TiddlySpot
(or is anyone using it successfully there?):

It does work when I load things into a *local* TW, from a tiddlyspot
TW,
but it does not seem to work to load things from a tiddlyspot TW into
a tiddlyspot TW, like this;
<.tiddlyspot.com confirm temporary>>
nor like this
<.tiddlyspot.com/proxy/http://.tiddlyspot.com confirm
temporary>>
nor from a non tiddlyspot TW into a tiddlyspot TW, like this;
<http://www.tiddlywiki.com confirm temporary>>


Thanks!

/Mat


On Dec 30 2008, 11:12 pm, Amzg  wrote:
> Brief addition, because this particular plugin seems very promising.
> Installing;
>
> ExternalTiddlersPlugin (+TemporaryTiddlersPlugin)
>
> and giving the command
>
> <http://mymainTW.tiddlyspot.com/proxy/http://
> mysecondTW.tiddlyspot.com/index.html#test]]>>
> - or -
> <http://mymainTW.tiddlyspot.com/proxy/http://
> mysecondTW.tiddlyspot.com/#test]]>>
>
> (the "proxy stuff" is according to tiddlyspot instructions[1]  and
> 'mysecondTW' requires no password etc)
>
> results in the message:
>
> Error in Proxy : undefined method `downcase' for nil:NilClass
>
> (A tiddlyspot proxy problem?)
>
> Thanx
>
> /Mat
>
> [1]http://tinyurl.com/98no2u
> (http://faq.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5BI%20want%20to%20import%20tiddlers%20...
> )
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[tw] MasterIncludePlugin

[Amzg]

1) Does FNDs TiddlyMasterPlugin (or is it MasterIncludePlugin?) work
properly? Or is there any other plugin replacing it?
2) Is it maintained, or is it a 'past project'
3) Would it work with TiddlySpot TWs for regular users, or would it
require storing separate files etc? (I found a version[1] but notice
it is a '.js' file, and I don't know how to install that...)

Thank you

/Mat

[1] http://tiddlyhome.bidix.info/desk/#%5B%5BTiddlyMasterPlugin.js%5D%5D
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[tw] Re: tiddlysnip -- incompatible extension

[Amzg]

Should be noted though, that the 'author' of TiddlySnip unfortunately
no longer has time to devote to this must wonderful app. I really,
really hope someone capable can pick it up because it is a truly
useful feature.

Ref TiddlySnip googlegroup and this message;

http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlySnip/msg/2c810824c8076ccf

/Mat


On Jan 1, 3:49 pm, FND  wrote:
> > When I try to install TiddySnip, using tiddlysnip.com, into Firefox/
> > 3.0.4 on Linux I get:
> > """TiddlySnip" will not be installed because it does not provide
> > secure updates""
>
> See this page on the community wiki:
>  http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/TiddlySnip
>
> -- F.
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[tw] Re: External tiddlers to TW on TiddlySpot ?

[Amzg]

Brief addition, because this particular plugin seems very promising.
Installing;

ExternalTiddlersPlugin (+TemporaryTiddlersPlugin)

and giving the command

>
- or -
>

(the "proxy stuff" is according to tiddlyspot instructions[1]  and
'mysecondTW' requires no password etc)

results in the message:

Error in Proxy : undefined method `downcase' for nil:NilClass

(A tiddlyspot proxy problem?)

Thanx

/Mat



[1]
http://tinyurl.com/98no2u
( 
http://faq.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5BI%20want%20to%20import%20tiddlers%20directly%20to%20my%20online%20site%5D%5D
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[tw] Re: Hiding/showing tiddlers globally by tag?

[Amzg]

FWIW, maybe

http://www.Remotely-Helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.html

could be an alternative? I.e encrypting tiddlers instead of hiding
them?

(Note: I presume your TW is a public one, and in case it is online or
at least on Tiddlyspot, I just wish to mention that when using this
plugin, you must "save to web" twice in a row. The first time is "used
up" by the popup asking for the encryption password.)

/Mat





On Dec 28, 10:30 pm, Torne  wrote:
> On Dec 28, 11:08 am, Ken Girard  wrote:
>
> > Take a look 
> > at:http://no-sin.com/wiki/WorkTracker.html#[[32882-Landamezal%20Inc-Makiee%20PA]]
>
> > All the check boxes at the top are done using ToggleTags, and are made
> > to only show up when the tiddler is tagged 'Training' by use of
> > HideWhen (Look at the ViewTemplate and TrainingTemplateView in the
> > original link).
>
> I may not have explained very well, but I don't think that's what I
> want.. I know about HideWhen :)
>
> I'm talking about removing the actual existence of the tiddlers, so
> they don't show up in taggly tagging lists, or in the 'all' list, or
> any other context that enumerates the list of tiddlers; nothing to do
> with their contents or the template.
>
> For example, you might have a bunch of tiddlers tagged with "Boring".
> The sidebar would have a checkbox labelled "Show boring tiddlers", and
> when the checkbox wasn't checked all the tiddlers tagged as boring
> would disappear entirely.
>
> --
> Torne Wuff
> to...@wolfpuppy.org.uk
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[tw] External tiddlers to TW on TiddlySpot ?

[Amzg]

In summary; what is the best solution for accessing tiddlers from an
external TW - where both the main TW and the other TW are **on
TiddlySpot**?


Ideally;
* the imported/included/external/... tiddler should also be possible
to edit in the sense that the changes are saved in the original
external TW.
* fantastic if also possible to use same/similar command to load a
document (e.b txt format) into a tiddler
* clear that external tiddlers are external (viewed in a different
color, or some tag etc)
* developed by someone 'still active' in the TW community.
* easy to install, and not requiring e.g a separate folder (due to
tiddlyspot restrictions, as far as I know).

Yes, I found the mega thread[1] in the archives, but being a mere
mortal I don't quite understand what to make of it plus that thread is
a year old, so...

I have tried a few solutions with not-so-good results (e.g some seem
to work with local files, but not quite on tiddlyspot), so I figured
I'd better ask before getting even more confused among the
alternatives I've found:

* IncludePlugin[2]
* LoadTiddlersPlugin[3]
* ExternalTiddlersPlugin[4]
* loadExternal [5] < unsure how to install this, particularly for
tiddlyspot
* ArchivePlugin[6]
* LocalAdaptorPlugin[7]
* IncludedTiddlerCommand[8]  < also not sure what to do with this


Any thoughts/recommendations are greatly welcome.
Thank you

/Mat


[1]
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/b602aa688c9fc2fa/52500ddaaab87e92?q=externaltiddlersplugin+tiddlyspot&lnk=ol&;
[2] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#IncludePlugin
[3] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#LoadTiddlersPlugin
[4] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ExternalTiddlersPlugin
[5] http://tinyurl.com/2on5u9
(http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWikiDev/attach/
24b01004700c20a6/...)
[6] http://jackparke.googlepages.com/jtw.html
[7] http://www.martinswiki.com/#LocalAdaptorPlugin  < dead link?
[8] 
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/experimental/abego.editIncludedTiddlerCommand-src.js
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[tw] Time line drop down in top field.

[Amzg]

How would I add a "timeline slider" (ideally with merely a limited
number of items showing) into the horizontal top tiddler? It'll be for
a public TW so no right bar is visible.

I put the following into the header of my (mptwtheme) PageTemplate



The 'wrap' being a tiddler with a slider containing a timeline. But, I
would like it;
* right aligned,
* and the result is erroneously slid out inside the very header
tiddler, making the header tiddler expand. I want the resulting slider
to slide out on in front of everything.

Thanks!

/Mat

P.S Interesting how fast one forgets these things.  Been on the road a
month and just getting as far as described above was surprisingly
difficult... :-/


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