Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
- Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:11 PM Subject: RE: (313) minus pre-demf party? Anyone make it to the after party ? I bumped into a few of them at KDJ on monday night and they said the after party ended on noon friday. Those crazy kids... They basically threw everyone out, then I realized I could've gone if I had only stayed. Doh. Frankly, I'd had enough though. Magda and Clark Werner were good as usual. It was a trip to be in Necto again too. It was the first club I ever went to when they used to have teen night on Thursdays and the pre-midnight progressive thing on Sundays. A friend told me Mills used to spin there in that timeframe (around 87-88), although I would assume it was not on one of those nights. Anyone know? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
- Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) minus pre-demf party? Mills spun at the Nectarine Ballroom on Sundays from 86-88 i think. I went there the first weekend of school in the summer of 87. Got there AT 9pm...and the joint was empty. We were too young to know that the parties don't really start until 11. I imagine the fact that if anyone was there it was a ton of 14 year olds probably didn't help the vibe any [raises hand sheepishly]. ;) IIRC they would boot all the minors out soon before midnight, and then the real fun started (from which we youngins were excluded). Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
- Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: Re: (313) minus pre-demf party? They did NOT have kiddies (defined as being under 18). They DID have kids (i.e. 18 year old college freshmen). Hmm... I'm certain I was there on Thursdays when I was 14, and I'm pretty damn sure they did this on Sunday's through midnight too. Maybe they only opened it for kiddies on Sundays during the Summer or something??? Dunno. Mostly I was just curious if my first clubbing experience might have been Mills. I had a memory of some dude in a cowboy hat with crazy sideburns, but that booth used to be fairly obscured, so I wasn't sure who was on when, etc. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) busted ?????
I heard Friday night the Works was closed during Theo Parrish. I know that the cop who busted the DC on Friday seemed to really have an agenda in doing so. Not sure what that was all about. Hood got shut down 40 minutes into his set Saturday as you said. I felt lucky to see all of Felton Howard though. Cannonball had no troubles AFAIK. I was there 'til 8:30, and I didn't notice anything anyway. Cops showed up at The Works on Monday and walked through, but didn't do anything. Whew! Guess I made out OK. After being in England for nine months, this was really bizarre for me. I know it's more tyranical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: RE: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing this was prbably the least wastyed i've seen hart plaza since the first year. at least there were no massage trains over by the fountain. Yeah. I had no idea about the body surfing, and only heard one passing comment about Pearl Jam. I think the wayward youth confined themselves to the main stage and the areas in between perhaps? Every year there's been tons of kids that didn't seem musically concerned in the periphery and non-musical center of the plaza. I spent almost all of my time on the High Tech Soul and Movement stages, and both had a great vibe from where I was sitting/standing. I spent very little time on the main stage and underground this year, so that could possibly account for the different perceptions??? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Someone was asking about DC Events?
http://www.dcsanctuary.com/events.html Brett Dancer + GU tonight. The Sanctuary crowd is the best in DC. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) 313 t-shirts?
- Original Message - From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: RE: (313) 313 t-shirts? I saw Tristan wearing a nice-looking 313 t-shirt over in London a few months back... I asked him what the deal was with the shirt, but was too drunk to remember the story! But that may well have been the same thing... I've got the Ren Cen one that Gilles designed. David's rundown pretty much sums it all up. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Stores, clubs etc in the DC/Baltimore area
I've been trying to post this for a few days, but it won't go through, so I'll post the bit that's relevant to your DC events query, since Sylvie should've already received my answer to her Scott Henry question. Not really any techno other than Filler and rare Once Twice stuff (and some of the Metatrack/Metrotechno crew when they get booked). Lots of good Deep House though. Look for these DJ's and nights: Darrow's (ex) weekly at Erico Cafe was great, but if you can catch him anywhere, run don't walk, almost any night at Red is good, the right DJ's at Marx Cafe, House of Secrets (if you can get invited), the Blue Room and (until they took partial ownership of '5') M3 were incredibly consistent - now they do some nice stuff with some cack (IMO). Also look for Root on Tuesday's @ the Blue Room for a nice downtempo/house and broken beat lineup. The Blue Room is the business. Lara's Balto recommendations and general assessment is pretty right-on too. There's also nights like Lemur Lounge in Alexandria which are run by good peepz, but I only made it out that far once. House DJ's to look for: Darrow, Omar Faison, Milo, Sam 'The Man' Burns, Mandrill, Dj Oji, 95 North, Ivan and Carl, Groove District (John and Julius - they have a Wednesday weekly @ 5 that is nice), also Brian Stewart's Wednesday open turntable night @ the Blue Room is one of my favorites. Techno DJ's to look for (if you're lucky) constitute my old crew, but there ain't a lot else techno-wise, so don't yell at me for pimpin' my peepz. ;) http://www.metrotechno.net and the previously mentioned Filler folks. If you ask me, the closing of Yoshi is no great loss, but Pete's right that they had some nice older CD's. The current selection (of CD's or vinyl) was a bit weak IMO though. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Ulrich Schnauss UK Tour
- Original Message - From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:10 AM Subject: Re: (313) Ulrich Schnauss UK Tour the first track Gone Forever sounds like Loveless-era My Bloody Valentine doing Boards of Canada, and the second track On My Own sounds like an electronic MBV if they were doing a Wire cover (*!*). And that's just the first two tracks :) So you mean it sounds like Polyfusia or Quique, right? ;) Damn I miss Seefeel... Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Test
I hate to think there may be even more messages on [313] that I'm missing??? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) New Mix from a Weird Date
Happy Cinqo de Mayo, or bank holiday, depending where you are. Since it was a beautiful day in London yesterday, I stayed inside and mixed for three hours - because I'm stupid like that. I remembered to press record for about the last two hours of it, so you'll be joining a mix in progress should you choose to accept this mission. As you can see from the brevity of the tracklist I let this stuff play out for the most part. Lots of house, some more house, and a few odd bits of other stuff to boot. Mostly newer stuff too. Not my best mixing ever, but nothing too horrendous (I hope you'll agree) except when the breeze in my flat knocked the needle mid-mix in a place or two. :/ Prepare your hi-speed connection and delete some pr0n from your hard drive, as this is just over 100MB. http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/mixes/TristanWatkins543Mix.mp3 Tracklist: Isolee - It s About (Lopazz und Casio Casinos Maxi Mix) - Freundinnen Ramiro Mendes - Angola (Carl Craig's Mix) - Lusafrica Pitch Black City featuring Roberta Sweed - Runaway - Mahogani Music Sun Ra - Saga of Resistance (Theo Parrish Promo Version) - Kindrid Spirits Blaze - Gloria Muse - Slip n' Slide Kunuyuki - Precious Hall - Natural Resource Walter Jones - All God's Chilren (Juan Nunez Little Chris Rmx) - Westbound Music Passion Dance Orchestra - After the Dance - Inner Music Soha - Balance - Basic Recordings Ola Jagun the Ancestral Rhythms - Odo Oya (The Rebirth Version) - Spiritual Life Music Osunlade - Rader Du (featuring Wunmi) - Soul Jazz Records Kemit Sources - An Ka Sein - Isma'a Rima - This World (12 Version) - Jazzanova Compost Records Terrence Parker - Your Love - !K7 Glad Today - Thoughts of You - M-Break Recordings Atjazz - Dry Red Line - Mantis Recordings Brooks - Dripping in Glod - Mantis Recordings House of Gypsies - Sume Sigh Say (Tee's Ultimate Vocal) - In House Records Joshua - Hustlin' - Select Recordings Headman - It Rough (Chicken Lips Trax Dub) - Gomma Nubian Mindz - Burning - Twisted Funk Gotan Project - Santa Maria (Del Buen Ayre) (Pepe Bradock Wider Remix) - Ya Basta! Francois de Roubaix - La Mer est Grande (Carl Craig Remix) - Sido Music Pub - Surgery - Ampoule Records Enjoy! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) New Mix from a Weird Date
- Original Message - From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 6:11 PM Subject: Re: (313) New Mix from a Weird Date Kunuyuki - Precious Hall - Natural Resource Oh my god. This is the first time I hear this song. But this must be one of the best recordings of the last 10 years! My favorite tune of last year easy. :) Actually, I already need a new copy b/c this one has been chewed in less than 6 months... Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Rushhour [ OT ]
- Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 6:48 PM Subject: (313) Rushhour [ OT ] I got an email back from them two weeks ago asking for my CC, saying my order was ready, and I haven't received anything yet. I tried emailing them 3x but no response.. Anyone else have experience with them? I had a problem with a shipment not long ago and they were really helpful arranging a re-delivery, despite a bit of email confusion when mail order duties transitioned from Marsel to Erik. Top store IMHO. I'd suggest emailing Erik again, as he is still pretty new to this role I think. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Rushhour [ OT ]
- Original Message - From: [-[-]-[]-[|]-] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 7:15 PM Subject: Re: (313) Rushhour [ OT ] sounds like maybe someone got ahold of their contact list and is trying to scam CC numbers? I'd definately follow-up on that Just to squash this quickly, I'm fairly certain this is not an unusual practice for them. I'd hate for them to lose business if this became a widely circulated rumor. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Rushhour [ OT ]
- Original Message - From: [-[-]-[]-[|]-] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 7:28 PM Subject: Re: (313) Rushhour [ OT ] absolutely. give them the benefit of the doubt but protect yourself in the process. Agreed. I think I just called them when I needed to change my info once. Don't worry, you don't need to speak Dutch. ;) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) bubbles cookies
- Original Message - From: Jason Hogans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: (313) bubbles cookies hello all, it's monday you're bored?... http://www.homepage.mac.com/reallynice/ - a mini site where you can download some of my newer stuff. some spacey hip hop vibes a couple of ethnic flavored (brazilian/dub) downtempo workouts. all aces balance are from the forthcoming ep tell me more about bubbles on my own label, really nice recordings. probably early autumn on that. the other three are from a full length album, accepting cookies - still working out the label release details on this one, let it be your favorite mystery. i'm not giving away the best stuff right now rob, they gotta buy something! go get 'em y'all. Really nice on all levels - lyrics, vocals, music, production (even at 96Kbps)! Oh, and those balines. Thanks for posting these! Are you on the mic? Is that an Allen Heath LFO at the end of Balance? Sounds eerily familiar. :) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) New Mix
Sorry if this comes through twice. I posted it earlier and haven't received it myself, and others have mentioned the same. Weird since I know at least some people have received it. Sorry if this seems SPAMish. Just trying to share some new music. Happy Cinqo de Mayo, or bank holiday, depending where you are. Since it was a beautiful day in London yesterday, I stayed inside and mixed for three hours - because I'm stupid like that. I remembered to press record for about the last two hours of it, so you'll be joining a mix in progress should you choose to accept this mission. As you can see from the brevity of the tracklist I let this stuff play out for the most part. Lots of house, some more house, and a few odd bits of other stuff to boot. Mostly newer stuff too. Not my best mixing ever, but nothing too horrendous (I hope you'll agree) except when the breeze in my flat knocked the needle mid-mix in a place or two. :/ Prepare your hi-speed connection and delete some pr0n from your hard drive, as this is just over 100MB. http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/mixes/TristanWatkins543Mix.mp3 Tracklist: Isolee - It s About (Lopazz und Casio Casinos Maxi Mix) - Freundinnen Ramiro Mendes - Angola (Carl Craig's Mix) - Lusafrica Pitch Black City featuring Roberta Sweed - Runaway - Mahogani Music Sun Ra - Saga of Resistance (Theo Parrish Promo Version) - Kindrid Spirits Blaze - Gloria Muse - Slip n' Slide Kunuyuki - Precious Hall - Natural Resource Walter Jones - All God's Chilren (Juan Nunez Little Chris Rmx) - Westbound Music Passion Dance Orchestra - After the Dance - Inner Music Soha - Balance - Basic Recordings Ola Jagun the Ancestral Rhythms - Odo Oya (The Rebirth Version) - Spiritual Life Music Osunlade - Rader Du (featuring Wunmi) - Soul Jazz Records Kemit Sources - An Ka Sein - Isma'a Rima - This World (12 Version) - Jazzanova Compost Records Terrence Parker - Your Love - !K7 Glad Today - Thoughts of You - M-Break Recordings Atjazz - Dry Red Line - Mantis Recordings Brooks - Dripping in Glod - Mantis Recordings House of Gypsies - Sume Sigh Say (Tee's Ultimate Vocal) - In House Records Joshua - Hustlin' - Select Recordings Headman - It Rough (Chicken Lips Trax Dub) - Gomma Nubian Mindz - Burning - Twisted Funk Gotan Project - Santa Maria (Del Buen Ayre) (Pepe Bradock Wider Remix) - Ya Basta! Francois de Roubaix - La Mer est Grande (Carl Craig Remix) - Sido Music Pub - Surgery - Ampoule Records Enjoy! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) ?
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:59 PM Subject: (313) ? Yes, but we shouldn't be selfish, and hope for other labels to relay the idea, because on a strictly business matter that's a fresh breath for the labels business looking at how the market is dead, the big decline of vinyl's sales..not to mention a new turning point in the distribution, possibly the expansion of the music we love, before it definitive death.We need more consumers. what does 'the market is dead mean' ? i wouldn't have thought that any of the recent factors that have affected major record companies sales would apply to DJ oriented / underground / this-listy stuff ? is there really a big decline in vinyl sales? Seems that way, from all that I've heard. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Yes I Am An Antsie MoFo!!!
Lineup lineup lineup!!! I've already had to sit through 9 hours at work waiting for this, 5-8 hours more than you bastards in the states. Let loose whatchoo know! :) OK, I'm being a precocious f*ck. ;) At least I'm not in oz. :) Any news at all? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) demf lineup
LOL. I thought that looked really familiar. ;) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: 21st century soul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: (313) demf lineup SATURDAY MAY 25 DEMF STAGE Noon The Sundiata O.M. Ex-Spear-Re- Essence (live) 1:30 p.m. Electric Indigo 3:30 People's Movement (live) 5:30 Mike Grant 8:00 Mike Dearborn 11:00 Juan Atkins MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Jay Langa 2:00 DJ Zapp 4:30 Heather Heart 7:00 Steve Rachmad 9:30 Marco Carolla C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Short-E 1:00 John Collins 2:30 Reggie Curry 4:00 UFM featuring Billy Love (live) 5:30 Scott Grooves 7:30 Paul Johnson 10:00 Tim Baker REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Erotek (live) 2:00 Mad Professor (live) 3:30 T. Linder 4:30 Deep Chord (live) 6:00 Jon Tejada 8:30 Cas Roc 10:00 DJ Drama SUNDAY MAY 26 DEMF STAGE Noon Gary Martin 1:30 TBA 3:00 Blake Baxter 5:30 Eddie Fowlkes 8:30 George Clinton MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Korie 2:00 Keith Kemp 4:30 Adam X 7:00 Bryan Zentz 9:30 DJ Krust C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Art Payne/Keith Martin 2:30 Rick Wade 5:00 Boo Williams 7:30 Ethan Kline 9:00 Kenny Dope REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Brian Gillespie 1:30 Stewart Walker (live) 3:00 Waxmaster D Smooth 4:30 Derrick Thompson 6:00 Chaos (live) 7:30 Bone 10:00 Dave Clarke MONDAY MAY 27 DEMF STAGE Noon Roy Davis, Jr. 2:00 Green Velvet (live) 3:30 Alan Oldham aka T-1000 6:00 Advent (live) 7:30 X Ecutioners 10:00 Aux Men featuring A Number of Names (live) MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Dennis Cox 2:00 Frankie Bones 4:30 K. Hand 6:30 Ray Bone 8:00 Colin Dale C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Dwayne Jensen 2:30 Greg Collier 3:30 Melvin Hill 5:00 Mike Huckaby 7:30 Ron Carroll REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Tang 2:00 Matt Clark 4:00 Black Bottom Collective 5:30 DJ Dangerous 8:00 Traxx
(313) Yay!!!
Everyone who I wanted to see in London in May is playing @ the Festival!!! Hell yes. This is a really excellent lineup. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) It's up!
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: RE: (313) It's up! well the only ones listed as tbc are: Niko Marks Blaze DJ Spinna Richie Hawtin I think Rob, being the sly bastard that he is, was poking fun at last year's announcement antics. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) It's up!
- Original Message - From: Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: RE: (313) It's up! i wasn't being sly. i'm serious. Well that's a first! :P Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Yay!!!
- Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 8:27 PM Subject: RE: (313) Yay!!! OK who is : Alder and Elias? Good question! Amp Fiddler? The business! Used to plays for P-funk, Prince and others. Recently featured on the first Mahogani record, has a new one coming out that is absolutely stunning. Other solo stuff that is nice too. Sure to be one the hilights of the festival. Andres? Another guy with stuff on KDJ. Ayro? Jeremy Ellis of OMOA Music. Helps with John Arnold, Recloose, Detroit Experiment, has remixed Jazzanova. He is going to knock our socks off!!! Ben Bracken? No clue. Peven Everett? Of Angora and Gabrielle w/Roy Davis Jr. fame, has recently released a solo effort that turned many heads. From house to RB. Should be a treat. Grandwizzard Theodore? Credited with accidentally discovering the scratch. Yes, *the* scratch. Korie? Wolf Eyes? No clue. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Yay!!!
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 8:40 PM Subject: RE: (313) Yay!!! Ayro - Alex Attias, a West London transplant who made the move from his home base of Switzerland to be closer to his musical heart? A producer (Bel-Air Project, Catalyst, Mustang), label-head (Visions Inc), and DJ, - Broken beat style stuff Just to clarify, these are not the same person, although there are certainly some stylistic similarities. Alex Attias is a West London Broken Beat cat, Jeremy Ellis AKA Ayro is a Detroit Broken Beat cat. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Ingesting
Must whittle down this drool list once the lineup is announced... Amp Fiddler Matthew Dear Andres Mike Clark Aril Brikha Mike Grant Ayro Niko Marks (TBC) Blaze (TBC) Norma Jean Bell Norm Talley Buzz Gorree Carl Craig + Detroit Experiment Carlos Souffront Peven Everett Clark Warner Pole Dale Lawrence Danny Krivit Reggie Dokes Delano Smith Dwele Ron Trent Scott Zacharias Francois K DJ Genesis Grandwizzard Theodore Sysmanski The 3 Chairs John Arnold Theo Parrish John Beltran Thinkbox Kevin Saunderson + Kenny Larkin Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Congrats
Oh, and a big congrats is due to the Thinkbox crew for their years of dedication. A few ancient [313ers] done very good! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Detroits Biggest
If I'm not mistaken, TP's Love's Got Me High had sales of over 100,000 in Europe. I assume the KMS stuff is more, but that might be a benchmark. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Here we go....
I don't think this is a bad idea at all. Why not? The risk is minimal compared to vinyl, it's a little extra money to help keep the label alive, and there are some people (like Joe) for whom it is a better solution. I agree the marketing of it is a bit silly, but so what? Most marketing is silly. I just think it's sort of funny that they were once called CD 5's (or Maxi-singles) in order to differentiate a CD single with multiple remixes from the little 2 or 3CD singles (however big they were). CD 12 is an improvement over the gynecological name of old, and CD 5 never really made much sense since full-lengths were also 5s. For that matter, the term 12 as opposed to album doesn't make a lot of sense, so one more silly term among many really doesn't bother me. In fact, I'd like to think of it as an homage to the history of f*cked up recording format names. ;) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) that CC 10
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: (313) that CC 10 Francois De Roubaix : Remixes Vol.1 (Cinemix) Four track remix EP of the 60s-70s French composer, who died in 1975. Soundtracking mainly French language films (including the classic 'Le Samourai') Does Carl Craig remix 'Le Samourai' by chance? Awesome film noir (nothing to do with samurai's - not explicitly anyway). Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Echo
Because sometimes multiple votes counts for something, I will speak up in favor of these (mostly previously mentioned) tunes: Amp Fiddler : Basementality - 12 Francois De Roubaix : Remixes Vol.1 - 10 Cesaria Evora : Angola (Carl Craig Pepe Bradock Remixes) - 12 I:Cube : Vacuum Jackers - 12 Rima : This World - 12 Raphael Saadiq : Sky's The Limit (AKA Skyy Can You Feel Me) - 12 Somatik : Interaktion - 12 The Raphael Saadiq is another Yam Whoo effort, following up on that N'Dambi edit. Anyone know when the forthcoming Amp Fiddler is due?? It's sooo good. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Dirty House - Was Re: (313) electro house is taking over (maybe not just in OZ)
- Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] org [The Music Institute] (E-mail) 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 3:00 AM Subject: RE: (313) electro house is taking over (maybe not just in OZ) If you don't like the tight production values that you can hear in MA (not raw enough) all I can say is Morgan's productions have *always* had that sharpness and precision, even on his old Metamorphic and Environ and Clear records, when it was more techno than house. His production values have been consistently high throughout, and his ear for melody as well I think few have it quite like that. Ken, I was thinking this too. His solo stuff is definitely a lot grittier in a Curtin/P.O.F.F. kinda way (or at least that's akin to one of his many voices). There is plenty of raw house stuff out there too, it's just that (in my experience) there's not a lot of it that shows the same kind of quality you hear with Metro Area. I am of course a huge fan of chicago jackin' trax, love em!!! but for me there's not a lot of raw or really unique house coming out (of chicago right now anyway) that was the way it used to be. New generations of producers aren't as constrained as the founders were, and you get a lot of stuff made on computers and not a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation house producers are selling their iMacs for RZ-1's, etc. ;) People have been claiming this'll be the next big revival for a while now though. I haven't seen much evidence of that, but It does seem logical, as these things go. Have either of you dirty-house boys heard the Chicken Lips Trax Dub of Headman's 'It Rough'? Sounds circa '86, released '02. I've heard Gene Farris and Joakim drop it at high volume so far. Both times it sounded s big (but dirty, errr rough ;). Ken, if you want something really dirty (like so poorly recorded it's hard to mix), track down the Pepe Bradock remix of the Gotan Project (seems to be very hard to find already though). It's got a mid-range acid line and an almost non-kick, so it's basically all-mids. If it isn't dirty enough for ya, I don't know what would be. Or maybe the accordian will throw you off. ;) In general, I don't see how you could go wrong with Monsieur Peepz. His remix of Incognito even says something like recorded in a noisy Parisian apartment (although ironically, that's probably the cleanest thing he's done)... Gotta say I'm not really seeing a cleanliness trend in house myself, or maybe I'm misunderstanding what is menat by 'clean' and 'polite'??? I would argue overall production value has been steadily climbing forever, but I don't see that as the same thing, or bad. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) More Dirty House
Also highly recommended are the two Kemit Sources EP's. Both harken back the Kutis to my ear. The one on Versatile has a totally different I:Cube mix on it too - which sounds really Detroit-y. Also, the Herbert remixes of the Mighty Bop's 'Lady'. It's Herbert, do you even need to hear it? ;) Also that remix he did of Karin Krog last year. Norma Jean Bell - London Fog (OK, not that new) Muziq - Half Crazy ( The Other Version / Limited New House Mix ) - make sure to get this version for the really melodic dirty percussion Glad Today - The Music Solstice - Debut (I think) from a Baltimore house band!!! Really excellent stuff all over the map, lead by live trumpets and vocals. The A-side has preacher sample, but the B-sides win again. The Movers - Love Cosmic Spiritual (not sure how you'll feel about this one, but I would call it dirty, and I bought it ;) N'Dambi - Call Me (Limited Re-Edit) if you haven't got it yet, run don't walk New World Aquarium - Heavy Metal That's a start for some less-than obvious stuff, and still not sure if this quite meets the criteria. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) More Dirty House
- Original Message - From: Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 10:37 AM Subject: RE: (313) More Dirty House well 'musiq' is an rnb singer, hes had a couple of albums out now. go look on kazaa or something for the original of his song 'halfcrazy' and you will be impressed! I really liked the vocals but the lyrics to this one made me balk. I mean, I understand where he's coming from, but basically you can reduce it to: a) we were great friends b) we fooled around - oops! c) now *you* are acting strange d) i wish *you* would sort your sh*t out so we can go back to 'a' Dunno. Something about the assignment of blame in this song rubs me the wrong way, but I really can't argue against a dancefloor full of people getting down to it. I mean, I can totally relate, but only because I was being a dick when I felt that way too. ;) Since hearing it on a dancefloor I've gone a bit easier on it though. :) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) More Dirty House
- Original Message - From: Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 9:59 AM Subject: RE: (313) More Dirty House is there a clip online? surely its the original vocal? http://www.vinyl-junkies.co.uk/samples/VJ6441_1.ram Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) More Dirty House
- Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: Re: (313) More Dirty House - Original Message - From: Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 9:59 AM Subject: RE: (313) More Dirty House is there a clip online? surely its the original vocal? http://www.vinyl-junkies.co.uk/samples/VJ6441_1.ram Doh! This is the right one: http://www.vinyl-junkies.co.uk/samples/VJ7244_1.ram Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) WE WANT LYRICS!
- Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:51 AM Subject: RE: (313) More Dirty House I'm not sure if I particularly g.a.f. abt the lyrical content! If we deconstructed all the lyrics of most of the tracks we are interested in here, we really wouldn't be left with much that is literary, noble or even coherent most of the time! The vibe is everything, for better or worse. Plus, I can make my own mistakes and learn from them myself, thanks, without need of the wisdom of an R'n'B singer to teach me, albeit in beautiful dulcet tones! Maybe it's time we started to expect more though? That 'glad today' record I mentioned earlier has excellent romantic lyrics, and the Brooks album is packed with them straight through (even if they're largely nonsensical, they are great: see - dripping in gold). Dani Sicialano springs to mind too. I'll be the first to admit that I'll let lyrics slide in house, but I don't know exactly when we lowered our expectations. Lyrics used to be a big draw for me before I got into house/techno, and they still are when I shop outside of this. There have always been good political lyrics, and still are, like Blackman, etc, but I'd like to see more insightful probings of emotions. It's not like there's ever been a time when there wasn't some good lyrical tracks in house, I just think people have more room to write crap if it kicks. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) WE WANT LYRICS!
- Original Message - From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Phonopsia' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 12:07 PM Subject: RE: (313) WE WANT LYRICS! Good Lyrics in House/Techno...not many...like I say...non of that I love you honey child cr^p Let me start... Hmm... Arnold Jarvis - Take Some Time Out Arnold Jarvis - Life Goes On (Dub Goes On Mix), since we are talking about lyrics. ;) 4 Hero - Black Gold of the sun Creating Patterns has a few lyrical gems and some flops. :/ Shame, since it's so masterful musically. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) That Saturday Question
- Original Message - From: spacecrusher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:39 PM Subject: RE: (313) That Friday Question so are people suggesting tracks that they think would really appeal to people who like trance? or are they just offering up tracks that they think are undenyably good? another thing- isn't a lot of older techno a bit more similar to older trance? wasn't there a common thread that diverged a while back on the evolutionary ladder? Yeah. I would just play them older trance. Baby steps. No one likes to be bashed upside the head... until they get that masochistic inclination and head to see a techno DJ willingly. ;) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Show up or I'll kill you.
- Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: RE: (313) Show up or I'll kill you. Dontcha think Fehlman looks like the counsellor from South Park, m'kay? True: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/pics/Resized/103-0315_IMG.jpg http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/pics/Resized/103-0316_IMG.jpg Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) That Sloppy Ass Broken Beat Mix I Been Saying I'll Do
Unfortunately, this mix didn't turn out like I'd hoped. It's kinda sloppy in a couple of parts. Hopefully you don't think any of my mess is too disastrous. I've never actually tried to mix an entire set of broken beat stuff before. While I'm usually telling people it's not *that* hard to mix, I was making that assessment based on including a few songs in a varied mix, but to put together a whole set is an entirely different matter. It's really difficult. I tried to work it out almost every night this week, but after tonight's go, I decided I'd accomplished the introductory mission and I didn 't have the energy to try and perfect such a difficult mix (I almost always abandon preconceived mixes). So I figured better to produce something rough than nothing at all... I'm not totally happy with the breadth of what I covered either, but I really do love all the songs, so hopefully it will be enjoyable on that merit if flawed in other respects. 14 tracks clocking in at 51 minutes (the last track has mysteriously disappeared). Arghhh... Sorry Tom, your remix of Scopex got snipped somehow (think I ran out of disk space while adding a dash of maximization), and sorry folks for the abrupt ending. Doh! Anyway, here it is: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/mixes/TristanWatkinsSloppyAssBrokenBeatMix.mp3 Tracklist: Domu - The Long Way Up - Neroli Dapp - First Off (Dub Version) - OMOA Music Recloose feat. Justin Chapman - Ain't Changin' (Extended Mix) - Planet E Nutmeg - Oscar's Shed (Rima Re-prise) - Neroli Mustang - Twilight (Freedom Soundz re-edit) - Visions Alex Attias Ed Motta - Sus 4 Jam - Visions Russ Gabriel - Offenbach West - Out of the Loop Seiji - Second Nature (Exclusive Dub) - Bitasweet Records Seiji feat. Lyric L - Loose Lips - Bitasweet Records Red Nose Distrikt - N.Y. Boom (Domu's Nose-Beast Mix) - Rushhour Records Plutonia - Wear Your Size - Visions Russ Gabriel - Flip Down to Break - Emoticon Recordings Nubian Mindz - Burning - Twisted Funk Somatik - Prismatik - Twisted Funk Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) That Sloppy Ass Broken Beat Mix I Been Saying I'll Do (titonton duvante in the D)
- Original Message - From: [-[-]-[]-[|]-] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 4:03 AM Subject: Re: (313) That Sloppy Ass Broken Beat Mix I Been Saying I'll Do (titonton duvante in the D) and he's coming to detroit very soon! Don't miss this! I saw him, @ (topically enough) co-op last Fall and he really tore it up. He and Domu are the only two DJ's I've seen really cutting up a broken beat well. Seiji is probably the only other DJ of the whole crew that I'd say takes a lot of risks, but Titonton and Domu get crazy! I wouldn't miss either. Plus you get Twonz! :) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) That Sloppy Ass Broken Beat Mix I Been Saying I'll Do
- Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 2:19 AM Subject: RE: (313) That Sloppy Ass Broken Beat Mix I Been Saying I'll Do Unfortunately, this mix didn't turn out like I'd hoped. It's kinda sloppy in a couple of parts. Hopefully you don't think any of my mess is too disastrous. I've never actually tried to mix an entire set of broken beat stuff before. ha... no worries! Such is the life of someone who chooses to mix this mad style! it's a cross to bear i hear ya ;) i feel like some of it does work well for a fast cut-n-paste fashion, while others (esp. the stringy ones) you can really ride and wring them out over some acapella beats. But to always take the safe transitions, intros and outtros is just too boring. Yeah. I wouldn't have been happy with that at all, although the mix into NY Boom wound up coming off like that b/c I just ran out... :/ I have yet to hear a super-locked-down-tight mix of something with this much differing percussion signatures and polyrhythmic breaks and disjointed action going on... and in the cases where I know the tracks being played, I can often hear even the most experienced DJs taking a mixture of risks and 'safely mixes' (ha) the ambient or beatless break areas as places to 'take' to the next new track, Orrin Walters included. And there is a time for both. I'd say such is the way of the style, I mean it's BROKE-N ! anyone who says they can lock a set super tight of this style isn't playing the craziest stuff in the genre... which to me is the most interesting. Not the noodley, faux-jazz wonky stuff, (which i am fading fast on) but the real experimental 'technosoul' side of it, like mustang, titonton, domu, aardvarck(!difficult!), rednose, genre, numbian mindz, seiji, nu era, son of scientist, moonstar, total science, etc. This is both my experience of it clubbing, and my inclination musically. I think most of the tracks on this mix reflect that sort of track selection too. I especially wanted a lot of it to have a sting-y or tech-y edge and wanted to get a lot of stripped-down stuff in there (for [313] appeal), even if it wasn't all as minimal as some of those more recent Seiji remixes, like his remix of Titonton which almost seems to be going too far in the other direction towards a broken beat tracky-ness??? Weird. I mean there's nothing wrong with it, but it kills the appeal that draws me to this stuff if it isn't very lively. hats off for not pre-planning every mix out for the whole thing... that is so BORING. personally i can never do the same mix more than once or twice max, life (behind 1200's) is too short and there's too much fun in riding the randomness of it all, flipping it over and trying out that b-side you never really gave proper attention to, experimentation, etc. I must confess that the first few mixes are pretty well sequenced, but I'll do that live often too. I look at it like planning out the first 10 plays of a football game. It gives you a chance to read things and settle into comfort before getting too distracted by an open slate. Also, I must confess that typically when putting together a mix, I will work at it for a long time until I'm perfectly happy with the track selection (since I think of it as a mixtape more than a DJ mix still), and this is why I typically never get a mix done, because I will never get happy with both the track selection and the mixing, always shuffling things around for each take... BTW - Brian Gillespie has pulled off some pretty heroic broken beat flavored DJ sets in detroit but he'll also tell ya the sh!t ain't easy and frankly i think it is (and should be) mixed with other genres to really stand out and create impact.. Hehe. That's why I was so surprised by trying to do this. I've always been adding it into house and techno sets, which I think works really well as a transition, or just some spice. I'll probably never try another all-broken beat set again, unless I get booked for it or something. [Aaron Shin]'s on the hunt for the new white lables like Ted Nugent on opening day of bowhunting season. :P ROFLMAO! Anyway, thanks for all the reassuring comments. Was beginning to wonder if I made the right decision. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Broken Beat Requests
- Original Message - From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Phonopsia' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: RE: (313) Broken Beat Requests Tristan, or anyone else: Are there any good broken beat mixes available on soulseek? I'd definitely like to check out more. Especially something with tracks on the more techy side (I really like Titonton for example). No idea about Soulseek I'm afraid. :( I will have one for you soon though. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Show up or I'll kill you.
Agh. Don't want to poop on anyone's parade, and sorry for chiming in late, but be prepared for Fehlmann to be less-than inspired. When he played London a couple of months ago it sounded like he played his kompakt records track-for-track, no alteration, just slightly mixed with a touch of dubbing. Love the music, but an inspired live set it was not. If you go in expecting as much I imagine it could be quite enjoyable. I was just a tad dissapointed there wasn't any older stuff and it sounded so un-live. :/ Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: (313) Show up or I'll kill you. Thought some may be interested in this event: who : THOMAS FEHLMANN + JAN JELINEK where : DETROIT ART SPACE - 101 E.Baltimore, Detroit. when : SATURDAY APRIL 26TH 9PM tickets : 12 at door - 10 at Neptune Records in Royal Oak http://www.neptunerecords.com/announcements/?aID=18 For fully detailed info: http://www.maerskmusic.com/ more info: FEHLMANN LINKS: http://www.msgp.org/projects/orb/Thomas%20Fehlmann%20e.htm http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/fehlmann.thomas.html JELINEK LINKS: http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?merchID=9674 http://www.scape-records.com/
Re: (313) Global 4/25 D, Kevin, Felton, Shortround
- Original Message - From: Barbara Deyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: (313) Global 4/25 D, Kevin, Felton, Shortround May 02 Ron Trent is back! Bastards! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) nights out in london
- Original Message - From: Bleep43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Martin' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) nights out in london The Outlet Collective are doing a party at the Rhythm Factory on Fri 2nd May with electro dons Rebel Intelligence. Outlet are a group of talented DJs with very varied tastes, and I'd recommend them far ahead of UglyFunk, which is very much k-head squat party type music. I was trying not to single any crews out, but since it's been done for me... I must say they're a great bunch and a brilliant collective of DJ's. Multi-dimensional, skilled and knowledgable - each DJ, not just them as a whole. I'm really excited for next week! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Robert Hood
- Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: RE: (313) Robert Hood Thanks Marsel, got it from www.rushour.nl They also had the other records I had trouble finding : PUTCH 79 1300 EP EU12 CLONE 1 EUR 8.90 EUR 8.90 ALTER EGO THE FRIDGE EU12 KLANG 1 EUR 8.90 EUR 8.90 THE SOFT PINK TRUTH PROMOFUNK UK12'' SOUNDSLIKE 1 EUR 9.90 EUR 9.90 8DOOGYMOTO DAKEWA UK12 SOUNDSLIKE 1 EUR 9.90 EUR 9.90 M.I.A. RIVER EU12 TRAPEZ 1 EUR 9.50 EUR 9.50 THEO PARRISH SOLITARY FLIGHT US12'' SOUND SIGNATURE 1 EUR 10.90 EUR 10.90 Woo-hoo. Is there service good? Yep. We had some problems with Airborne Express a few weeks ago and they helped me sort it right out. No complaints yet, and a great store by all accounts! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Show up or I'll kill you.
- Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Phonopsia' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: RE: (313) Show up or I'll kill you. bleh ! sounds like an akufen 'live' set. was jan also there? Nope. Mike Inc. was supposed to be but he was a no-show. To be fair, Fehlmann does bounce around behind the laptop quite a bit for an old fart. ;) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Show up or I'll kill you.
- Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Phonopsia' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 10:27 PM Subject: RE: (313) Show up or I'll kill you. nice, i love it when people bip and bop... they've added some more people to the line-up tonight ... MIMM: A patchcord fiesta from this near-east electronic improv association. Processed sub-organic artifacts assimilated into pulp. Courtesy of A.Mullan,A.Ingalls,D.Meice. M.Miller. Velocette: Parallel recording's boss man Jason Williams takes the live stage with his compu-rhythm jack trax from the library of Babylon. He's an innocent man, with murderous disco in his pants. Williams's has a plethora of releases under his belt that include collaborations with Kit Clayton, and Jonah Sharp. Nice! Would love to see Velocette live! Report back to us kind sir please. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Cosmic Twins was Re: (313) Lost/Hood
- Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) Cosmic Twins was Re: (313) Lost/Hood Maybe that gig gives them the chance to be exposed to a different crowd. I mean if underground DJs don't play these kind of parties then someone will say, 'Look these superclubs only hire Paul Oakenfold and they ignore the 'real' DJs'. It's one of those catch-22 situations. Just for the record - the venue wasn't like a superclub or anything. Crash is big, but not anywhere near the size of say... Heaven, where Lost was held this weekend. I'm not certain about these numbers, but I think Crash holds about 800, and Heaven holds well over 2000??? At any rate, those are in the right ballpark. Crash is typically a gay club and it's located in Vauxhall, south of the river, which isolates it a bit from the typical big-club-going crowds. These are just some of the reasons why I was surprised when things didn't work out. It wasn't really blanketed in signs of failure from my perspective, which is also why I had that spastic reaction earlier. Sorry again about that. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Cosmic Twins was Re: (313) Lost/Hood
- Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:40 PM Subject: Re: (313) Cosmic Twins was Re: (313) Lost/Hood They're fraternal Cosmic Twins not identical, you see, so because of that difference, they're not gonna play back to back ;) That's false advertising, you can't blame the DJs for that. ...although they did tagteam in Manchester two nights later. At any rate, I was reluctant to blame *the promoter* at first, but I think the false advertising has been established via this Overload thread: http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=4509highlight= See also the original promotion from the promoter, in which the Cosmic Twins are billed as 'Francois K + Derrick May' on the same line of text and the promoter posts a picture of them DJing together later in the thread: http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=4334highlight=cosmic+t wins In my mind, *at best* (and a 'best' that has been stretched quite far), he did nothing to correct the flawed assumptions that were evident on a board that he pruports to participate on. I'll let y'all be the judge for yourselves. The promoter is the Zudo fella. Sorry for the airing of dirty laundry, just thought since there is speculation going on, you should see the way the promoter handled it first-hand. In my mind, he knew everyone thought they would be tagteaming, he encouraged that perception, and when people complained afterwards he momentarilly tried to tell us we were being too assumptive, then backtracked once he realized he'd trodden in it. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) nights out in london
- Original Message - From: John Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:09 PM Subject: (313) nights out in london can anyone recommend any regular nights in london that play soulful detroit techno/house? are there any? None that are regular that I can think of, but there are plenty of soulful house nights (not necessarilly Detroit), and enough one-offs with Detroit focus to keep you plenty happy. It does require some work to keep up with it though. I highly recommend the Overload board for such activity. Many likeminded peoples from all over this island (and beyond) there. Plus it is goofy! There are too many good locals DJs to name one-by-one, but if you want specific recommendations for DJs or promoters to look for I'll be glad to help off-list. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Pardon my ignorance, just what are Broken Beats?
- Original Message - From: DJ Nikadeemas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:03 PM Subject: (313) Pardon my ignorance, just what are Broken Beats? http://c8.com/praxis/records.html http://c8.com/praxis/news.html http://www.klangstabil.com/hymen/argentum/y705/y705.html http://www.isolaterecords.com/vsnaresinterview.html The way most people use the term, it most certainly would not refer to venetian snares. It's really widely misused, often confused with 'new school breaks', and really doesn't *mean* anything, even if it's organizing a number of related sounds and artists. There have been plenty of recommendations for exploration in the last couple of days, check 'em out! It's not this stuff though, IMHO anyway. :) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) bbeat
- Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 3:24 AM Subject: Re: (313) bbeat i picked up some really excellent broken beat stuff recently: bugz in the attic - zombie - bitasweet a really great funky ass cover of a fela kuti track, with some african sounding vocalists. This was originally on the Red, Hot 'n Riot comp. Can I assume it finally got a 12 release? I was gutted I couldn't justify shelling out for the whole comp. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) bbeat
- Original Message - From: mxll [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: Re: (313) bbeat - You couldn't JUSTIFY shelling out for a compilation whose profits goes to fight the spreading of A.I.D.S on the african continent .. - that's sad . henrik Slow down. Hair-trigger acusations don't work well on email. You don't know me or my motivations. I knew some of the previous Red, Hot + [...] were charitable, but to be honest I didn't do any research into that at all - it didn't even cross my mind at the time I was shopping (online). I simply listened to the Bugz track which I'd heard on Worldwide, checked the others, and found it hard to justify a price in excess of £20 if that ££ could go to three + other slabs of wax. Obviously it's a good cause. You're reading a little too much into my ignorance. That said, I could probably do more for the fight against AIDS in Africa by buying this single (getting a longer and louder pressing) and donating the remainding £14+ to charity. Does anyone have real figures on the amount donated via this major-label charity effort? I'd be interested to know how effective it is. I'm not trying to slate it, but honestly if I was feeling compelled to support *this* charity, I doubt my first action would be to buy an overpriced record that didn't sell me on its own merit. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Cosmic Twins was Re: (313) Lost/Hood
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: Re: (313) Cosmic Twins was Re: (313) Lost/Hood wouldn't be anything to do with the fact they were playing at some corporate s*** do, conceived by someone who's 'doing it for the kids (the gatecrasher kids)' and wouldn't think twice about having them play back to back with Oakenfold as long as it made a few quid would it? Alex, I don't mean to single you out or anything, b/c I can tell you're doing things for the right reasons, but wouldn't it have been more effective to mention this before a buttload of Londoners shelled out £17 for a dissapointment, supporting this a**hole's future efforts? This Zudo fella has since revealed himself to be a completely shady character on the Overload board, but I hadn't heard anything about this before the event. Many of us were really excited, then let-down by the outcome. I'm not trying to blame you for anything, I just wish I would've known something about this beforehand if this guy had a bad history. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) uk shops
- Original Message - From: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: (313) uk shops sorting things out for a non digital uk friend of mine, who is pretty into moodymann, metro area, theo parrish, .. which shops he should regular visit through whole the uk? besides rub-a-dub, vinyl junkies, .. ? [Echoing Robin] Piccadilly Manchester, Innercity Leeds. Both excellent. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Surgeon- John Peel
- Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 12:22 PM Subject: (313) Surgeon- John Peel Did someone on this list hear and/or even record this set by Surgeon (ATP Festival) which was about to be broadcasted at the John Peel show last week or something? is it anywhere to be found? Apparently it's only a 30-minute segment, but it's already floating around on Soulseek in a higher-quality FM recording, and then there's this link from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/thisweek/20030407_peel.shtml#sess3 I hear the segment is quite a good one, although it would be hard not to be since the whole damn set was superb. :) Also, check this: http://www.dj-surgeon.com/latest.html New British Murder Boys due this month, + a tour date in Brooklyn on Friday 16/5 (that's 5/16 in Brooklyn). ;) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Broken Beat Requests
- Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: FW: (313) Broken Beat Requests Cheers Tristan. I'd like to canvass opinion from anyone who cares to lend me theirs on: What do you think broken beat is? Is it a passing phase? As for me, I admit to a broad stroke of ignorance. Save for the fact of hearing stuff which would now be called broken beat, maybe seven years ago: Example: Buckfunk 3000 - The Return Of Alphonso - on Trance Europe Express vol 5. Also, some things which I currently like - e.g. Tempest by Kabuki (Head to toe) I was recently told would fall in the 'broken-beat' category. Is broken beat what you want it to be?! I find there's three main threads of it: a) Goya Music, i.e. Dego + Marc Mac, (4 Hero, Nu Era, etc), Paul Dolby (Seiji, Opaque, Bugz, etc), Alex Attias (Mustang, 1/2 of Plutonia with Dego, etc), Dominic Staton (Domu and as recently informed 1/2 of Rima), Orin Walters (Afronaught, Bugz, Quango, etc), Kaidi Tatham (Agent K + unsung collaborator extraordinaire), Nubian Mindz (who are they again???), Enrico I'm-forgetting-his-last-name doh (Volcov/ other 1/2 of Rima) and crap I'm sure I'm missing a ton of others. But basically these guys almost all hail from West London (notably not Enrico who is Italian) and their many guises are generally on labels distributed by Goya Music. They also all collaborate together making it all that much more confusing and they also have Co-op as their home base on the 2nd and last Sunday of every month, at Plastic People (in East London ;). This is definitely the heart of the scene IMHO. http://www.goyamusic.com b) Folks like Aardvark, Red Nose Distrikt, etc, then stuff like Emoticon and some of Russ Gabriel's output. Other stuff I'm forgetting here too. Where do I put Archive, is it Goya or no??? Anyway, what they do is definitely different than the Goya stuff, although some of it I think points to the same place. c) Then you have some housier stuff (plus the Goya folks and Russ Gabriel do housey stuff occasionally too). I feel like there's so much that can be lumped in here that is often scarcely distinguishable from house or garage that I steer clear of categorizing it as Broken Beat material, b/c people are generally less confused that way - however, when you say broken beat, this is what a lot of people will think, and they aren't really wrong. Basically I try not to use the broken beat term so much unless it reminds me of a and b above, b/c I think that's where it started although others did stuff that sounds like broken beat long in the past. Gerd/Sensurreal really spring to mind for me in that sense. I know I missed a lot of people, but this is my general assessment. Ultimately I think it's easier to classify than a lot of people want to admit, but it's confounding because all the primary players make other stuff than just broken beats. If all this is confusing, then good! :) My mix will hopefully answer these questions better than my rant. As far as the future goes, that's a good question. They haven't stopped pushing back boundaries yet. I think if they stagnate it will only be temporary (although the pace of innovation certainly has slowed down some). Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: (313) Broken Beat Requests
I'd say this is a really representative selection. Remind me to tune in! :) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: Re: FW: (313) Broken Beat Requests For anyone interested - a friend of mine has a weekly radio program dedicated to BB. the show is called Bruckbeat Radio - for anyone in the Toronto area it's on 88.1FM CKLN + Worldwide: Simulcast live On www.ckln.fm, Fridays 17h-18h EST (New York Time) or 22h-23h GMT (London Time) You can call the studio +1-416-595-1655 or drop an email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for shout outs or requests Here's a few playlists from recent shows: Playlist for March 28, 2003 artist-title-label visioneers-visioneers-omniverse 7 dj spinna-idols-bbe dego and kaidi feat. face -butter angel- dwele-truth-virgin 12 kyoto jazz massive-the brightness of these days (quantic remix)-compost 12 l'aroye-sci fi sessions-faces 12 scallymatic orchestra-autumn forest song(buruman rmx)-flying high cdr* somatik-reflections of the future-twisted funk opaque-malice-archive 12 new sector movements-new goya-people 12 moonstarr feat tash-movin' on remix-public transit/pvine 12 Playlist for April 4, 2003 artist-title-label getnice-jury beat-public transit recordings cdr* nu era-music inside machine-twisted funk koop-bright nights (rima rmx)-jcr 12 steppah huntah-olesscoop-soultronik 12 moonstarr feat tash-movin' on remix-public transit/pvine 12 vikter duplaix-lookin for love (BITA rmx)-hollywood 12 domu feat. face-save it-2000 black 12 pavel kostiuk-west side story-2000 black likwit biskit-the all new umphh-people 12 dimlite-runindicator-www.rawberrys.com rustic hut-fat head paranoia-public transit recordings cdr Playlist for April 11, 2003 artist-title-label 4hero-blank cells-talkin loud quantic-not so blue-tru thoughts getnice-jury beat-public transit cdr titonton-duvante affection-playdeep 12 marcos valle-para de fazer besteira (4-hero mix)-farout red nose distrikt-ny boom (domu rmx)-rush hour from philly with love-sputnikked-from philly with love arch tight-chase scene with zero-public transit cdr detroit experiment-highest-ropeadope* pavel kostiuk-oklahoma-2000 black *Hot choices of the week Cheers! G
Re: (313) Broken Beat Requests
- Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:20 PM Subject: Re: (313) Broken Beat Requests I know I missed a lot of people, but this is my general assessment. Ultimately I think it's easier to classify than a lot of people want to admit, but it's confounding because all the primary players make other stuff than just broken beats. i would also add that strange german faction of people whose stuff seems to be hit or miss for me like jazzanova (who are almost always a hit) and that crew of people. and also also theres the north american crews like recloose, titonton, john tejada, ayro, john arnold, moonstarr, etc. this stuff usually makes up a huge portion of my deejay sets. Haha. Yes, count this as d and e. :) Told you I was forgetting things! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Cosmic Twins was Re: (313) Lost/Hood
Alex wrote: wouldn't be anything to do with the fact they were playing at some corporate s*** do, conceived by someone who's 'doing it for the kids (the gatecrasher kids)' and wouldn't think twice about having them play back to back with Oakenfold as long as it made a few quid would it? Then I blurted: Alex, I don't mean to single you out or anything, b/c I can tell you're doing things for the right reasons, but wouldn't it have been more effective to mention this before a buttload of Londoners shelled out £17 for a dissapointment, supporting this a**hole's future efforts? This Zudo fella has since revealed himself to be a completely shady character on the Overload board, but I hadn't heard anything about this before the event. Many of us were really excited, then let-down by the outcome. I'm not trying to blame you for anything, I just wish I would've known something about this beforehand if this guy had a bad history. And I've now been informed that Alex has indeed gone out of his way to inform us in the past, so consider this an apology. Tristan puts on his dunce's cap and sits in the corner for a while. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) pepe bradock
- Original Message - From: [-[-]-[]-[|]-] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:47 PM Subject: (313) pepe bradock where can I grab this guys music online? I dont even have records, but his deep burnt track is almost the coolest song ever. was it a fluke or does he have a whole load of rad house somewhere? He has some older markedly 'French house' (a totally meaningless term these days IMO) sounding stuff from the mid-90s under his own name and as Trankilou, then since 2000 he's only had his own records on Atavisme and Kif to my knowledge, but you definitely need to check his remixes for the full scoop. He's done wonderful stuff for The Gotan Project (acid + accordian = dope), Iz Diz (two great remixes for them), Incognito, Kemetic Just, Block 16, ummm and other stuff that isn't slapping me in the face right now. He's been really busy lately it seems, with a new record due soon on Atavisme, one that just came out this Winter, and the new one with Carl Craig due soon. He is excellent. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) pepe bradock
Oh - sorry to keep replying to my own posts, but I should add that many of his remixes are as Brad Peepz, not necesarilly listed as Pepe Braddock. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) pepe bradock
- Original Message - From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) pepe bradock deep burnt track is almost the coolest song ever. You should check out Theo's Ugly Edits 3...the B-side has the original sample from Deep Burnt in itlovely stuff! Also two records on Soul Brother recently have featured versions of the original, Freddie Hubbard's Little Sunflower. One is the Freddie Hubbard Anthology - the Soul Jazz fusion Years (oddly enough ;) and the other is the Soul Brother Selection. Both come highly recommended. I was a bit dissapointed when someone here pointed out that it was a sample a while back, but having heard two of the original versions now, I have to say it was a really excellent job of spotting and grabbing it. Brilliant song in its own right of course. I think I prefer the Leon Thomas vocal on the Soul Brother Selection to the Al Jarreau vocal on the Freddie Hubbard Anthology, but both are nice! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) pepe bradock
- Original Message - From: Erik Jälevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] He has some older markedly 'French house' (a totally meaningless term these days IMO) sounding stuff from the mid-90s under his own name and as Trankilou... Try and track down Trankilou - Champagne if you can. One of my all-time favourite house tunes and probably the best track the French house movement produced IMO. I always liked Sauternes on the St. Glin-Glin EP (BPM Records) as well. Agreed that this L'Escalope De Dingue EP is quite good too, but for some reason the songs that I like the most have something in them that vexes me a bit. Can't put my finger on it... For interested buyers, Vinyl Junkies and Groovetech have it in stock. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Mmmm... Afterparties
http://www.technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Partiesfile=index Dutchies, ready the bandwidth! ;) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Mills @ Movement
http://www.axisrecords.com/ click on Events. You know it makes sense. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) nu era/nubian mindz
- Original Message - From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:24 AM Subject: Re: (313) nu era/nubian mindz His track Burning on the Scattered Snares compilation knocked me on my @ss ... the whole compilation is really intense, but that one's my favorite. Agreed. Also check his song on the first Neroli compilation 12. That one reminds me a bit of Theo Parrish. That whole 12 is good though - can't go wrong. I hear the Nubian Mindz contribution to the second Neroli compilation is also good, but I've not got that one. Nu Era-wise, you definitely need Broken Techno if you don't have it. Further to this tip (and especially if you like the Aardvark-esque stuff), you may wanna check Red Nose District and some of the stuff on Music for Speakers. The Domu remixes of the first Red Nose 12 are sickening, and the 2nd 12 is pretty severe too. Didn't know there was a Rima album due. Awesome! Will this be on Visions? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) nu era/nubian mindz
- Original Message - From: Minto George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 2:33 AM Subject: Re: (313) nu era/nubian mindz --- Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His track Burning on the Scattered Snares compilation knocked me on my @ss ... the whole compilation is really intense, but that one's my favorite. yah I need to peep that too...the whole broken beat thing has been a hard sell for me just because I think it is an old idea, but now i can hear it's differences and it's more along the lines of house but fused with jazz and hip hop and drum and bass a little. FYI - I think the Scattered Snares comp really reveals the drum 'n bassier side of Broken Beats, with the notable exception of the Nubian Mindz track. I really like the comp, but find it's different enough from anything else that I own that I don't play it as much as I should. Didn't know there was a Rima album due. Awesome! Will this be on Visions? rima...hmm I'll have to check this out. thanks for the suggestions tristan and marsel! IIRC Rima = the same fella who compiled Soul in Motion. He also has a track as Nutmeg on Neroli that's really nice. I think it's called Oscar's Shed. A slightly housier than normal beat for the the broken style. Good stuffs. :) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Broken Beat Requests
Oh - also, I plan on making a broken beat mix as sort of an overview for people who might be trying to wrap their head around it. I don't claim to have nearly enough of it, but what I've got should serve as a decent intro. If anyone has any requests for inclusion on it, let me know off-list and I'll see if I can work them in. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) every day. (was: Re: (313) nu era/nubian mindz)
- Original Message - From: Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: (313) every day. (was: Re: (313) nu era/nubian mindz) On Monday, April 21, 2003, at 09:49 AM, Tom Churchill wrote: And on the Domu tip, his mix of Cinematic Orchestra's 'Man With The Movie Camera' is superb... Which label is this on? Ninjatune I suppose? I'll have to look out for it because I love the original. It's on the album Every Day, out on Ninjatune, 2002. Folks, if you haven't already, do check this album out, it's excellent. Since I'm real bad at reviewing, let me quote from the sleeve notes, written by Gilles Peterson: Yeah - I heard some of this from his top 50 last year. Really nice stuff. Remind me to get it! :) Domu remix sounds like it would be fantastic. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) ron trent
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: Re: (313) ron trent Got a brilliant record by Mr Trent and someone called Sundiata OM on Prescription called 'What are you doing with your life?' (at least I think that's the title). The instrumental track is really stunning...is this a new thing or an oldie? Who is the other bloke? Anyone recommend other stuff by him? Sundiatta O.M. is a percussionist (and vocalist I think) that recorded an album with Ron Trent (and Chez Damier) for Prescription towards the end of their initial run. It's a nice double-pack, I think, and sort of signalled the direction Ron Trent would move towards from then on, especially as he started collaborating with Anthony Nicholson thereafter. It was one of the first really organic records he produced, IIRC. Sundiatta also performed at one (or two???) of the DEMF's? I think he may have been the drummer who played with Derrick May at the first one, and for some reason I recall something related to the Lost Poets??? Lots of half-memories here. At any rate, that record is nice. :) Came out around '97 I think. Derrick Carter featured the track with all the political crap at the beginning of his disc of the three-disc Back to Basics tin. My favorite Derrick Carter mix. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) the weather
- Original Message - From: Neil Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: RE: (313) the weather Definitely - summer = house, winter = techno As much as I hate binary equations, this is pretty damn true. Nothing like house in a park with sunshine, BBQ and an everclear-filled watermelon. ;) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) ron trent
- Original Message - From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:38 PM Subject: Re: (313) ron trent Sundiatta also performed at one (or two???) of the DEMF's? I think he may have been the drummer who played with Derrick May at the first one, and for some reason I recall something related to the Lost Poets??? The Last Poets you mean? That's the one! Yeah... Umar Bin Hassan from the last poets went on stage while derrick was playing gumbo - submarine (dance mania). And he did this beautiful poem. Wich I think never got released on an lp... Right. Separate thing. The LP was well before the DEMF, but I'm pretty sure it has Sundiata's vocals on it rather than Umar Bin Hassan. And Sundiatta was drumming even when Derrick spun bob azzam - batucada por favor. That´s like bringing your 909 on stage and playing the ride cymbal when a track from MR G is playing... LOL. I don't remember that bit, but I can imagine! ;) I think that's the track that Toby played @ Public Life on NYE. He timed it so that the track climaxed (and stopped on a dime) right at midnight. F*cking brilliant! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) 313 geek culture
- Original Message - From: Ralf Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '::)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: RE: (313) 313 geek culture love this bit... Qualified candidate's must be team player's with good organizational and writing skills.. Yeah. That was actually funny! Too bad the rest of it isn't. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) New Music and Elitism - Was Re: test
- Original Message - From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 11:24 PM Subject: Re: (313) New Music and Elitism - Was Re: test on 4/13/03 4:31 PM, jurren baars at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: erm, what i'm getting from your answer is that you don't find a lot of the new 313 and related music good enough to discuss it yourself, but you do expect others to discuss it for you? The concept I have in mind is a neutral party like the list administrator would compile and post a list of new 313 artist/ label releases up for discussion. Read: 'Someone please do my work for me'. This list isn't here so someone else can tell you what you should like - it's here so we can all find out what other likeminded people like. It is a forum, not a magazine. No one person is in a priviliged position to determine content. If you want a magazine go and buy one. Besides that, your request is being filled weekly by Matt in his 'Clinically Inclined' playlists. His lists provide me with at least one solid recommendation/week, if not more, and this show was solely responsible for my introduction to Italo-disco. Watch/listen and learn about the past, present and future. First step in that process is recognizing that you don't already know everything. We have a list member promoting another list members label but a lot of the new 313 music is not being discussed or mentioned. Please tell us what you're so upset about!!! What are we neglecting to mention that *you* know about? Why don't you include yourself in this forum and contribute information about the artists you feel are neglected rather than sitting on the sidelines, berating us for being cliquy? No one asked you to join this list and bitch about how you don't fit. Either contribute what you know or shut the f*ck up and take what's relevant to you. As for your list of records, from observing trend I get the impression of a soulful electronica movement with people also having 80's dance music sensibility. I'm not a huge fan of this movement nor am I a fan of deep house sample based music. You sound like you have no idea what you're talking about. Please spend more of your energy talking about what you know than slagging me off. It will make us both much happier. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Re: New Music and Elitism
- Original Message - From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 1:36 AM Subject: RE: (313) Re: New Music and Elitism Honestly I think that more 313 record reviews on this list would be a good thing. I don't get to buy many records, right now I don't even have a job, and I sub to this list mostly to hear about records I might be missing. I'm not seeing as much of that as I used to here, and I do feel that there has been a shift away from a techno sensibility too. I like deep house, broken beat, and italo-disco type things too sometimes, but that's not really the kind of content I'm here for. So if any of you are buying things on the 313 related techno and electro tip, please share your finds. Hi Dave, The reason why I haven't posted many reviews of those records is for the same reasons you list. I don't think they're specific enough to this list to warrant a review. Those that I feel are topical I've mentioned. I know you weren't speaking to me in specific, but thought I'd clarify, since I feel the same way. Honestly I would love to see more talk about new Detroit Techno, but I don't think there's a whole lot of it that's worth talking about at the moment. I'm spending more money on hip hop than techno right now. I could post loads of house reviews, and I intend to review some of the more [313]-relevant stuff, but I just haven't had the time. Soon. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Shake in Holland
- Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '::)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 6:13 PM Subject: RE: (313) Shake in Holland I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Francois Kevorkian or Joe Clausell yet. Ditto. I'll also 2nd the Plaslaiko mention, and add Theo Parrish. Joakim was also quite impressive in this regard. I'll also 2nd the London local heroes mention. But there are local heroes everywhere that tear it up and don't get enough credit. Thank goodness they exist, or some cities would flounder with zero good music. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Shake in Holland
- Original Message - From: Klaas Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] org [The Music Institute] (E-mail) 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: Re: (313) Shake in Holland What about Traxx? I heard him go from onside to another. He plays from wave, to pop, to electro to disco... Absolutely! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Shake in Holland
- Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:57 PM Subject: RE: (313) Shake in Holland I'll also 2nd the London local heroes mention. But there are local heroes everywhere that tear it up and don't get enough credit. Thank goodness they exist, or some cities would flounder with zero good music. Yes, I didn't mean to big up London as if it was unique in having eclectic DJs. I was just speaking from my very limited experiences. It just seems a pity that these kind of DJs don't seem to become name DJs - the big DJs that do genre-mixing or whatever the hell you want to call it usually make a name for themselves as specialist DJs and then branch out when they can rely on their name only to fill a club, or, rarely, like FK, they have a regular club where they slowly but surely build up a following until it becomes international rather than just local. I think it's more that there are very few DJs that get national or international noteriety w/o record releases to back up their DJ skill. It's been this way for a long time, and probably will continue to be, since records get your name to the people and promoters that much easier - they also generate hype and expectation. I'm not gonna try and grind this axe too hard though, b/c I've probably beat this horse a bit too severely already. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Shake in Holland
- Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Klaas Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] org [The Music Institute] (E-mail) 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:09 PM Subject: RE: (313) Shake in Holland proto-312 Jack Trax Damn that's a good name for it! He played stuff like that all night at Portal in August. It was insane! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) New Music and Elitism - Was Re: test
- Original Message - From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 7:24 PM Subject: Re: (313) test In order for something like this to work someone who is familiar with all the new records being released from Detroit labels and what the distributors are shipping should post this info and not only the 313 label/ artist they like. Someone should slap me for responding, but this really erks me. There is no magical 'distribution sheet' of music as discussed on this list. Yes, some people who work at record stores will see stock lists from distributors, but that's essentially no different than visiting stock lists from all your favorite stores. In fact, it's even less effective because there's so much more to sift through before you get to what you want. There are a couple of reasons why no one posts all the new [313] releases: a) the music discussed here is very broad. no one has a manual to what is or is not topical - it just takes common sense and some familiarity with the subject matter. b) that information is already easy to find. this is not a network to consolidate distributor stock sheets. the purpose of this list is to refine that data and to provide aesthetic commentary, etc. If you want to see some publicly available stock sheets, subscribe to the 'new release' and 'back in stock' emails from groovetech, juno and rush hour for a start, then ask questions about those releases here if they don't mean anything to you. I'm sure there are other distributors and large stores with good lists. I seem to remember Watts used to have one. It's really annoying that you persistently berate this list and charge it with elitism, then argue that there's no good music coming out today. That is the result of lazy research and closed-mindedness. There is tons of amazing music coming out at present. I've bought about 60 records in the last month and a half - not all brand new or specifically [313], but this should evidence a few of the amazing records that have been released in the not-too-distant past: Russ Gabriel - Spirit Of Corea - Soul On Wax Black feat Roberta Sweed (prod by Kenny Dixon Jr) - Runaway - Mahogani Jordan Fields - Organic Dubs - Experience DJ Cam feat Cameo - Love Junkee ( inc Dilla aka Jay Dee Remix ) - Inflamable DJ Jazzy Jeff ( feat Jill Scott / J Live / Raheem ) - The Magnificent - bbe Jesse Saunders - On On ( Limited Edition ) - Broken Records / Jes Say Blaze - Spiritually Speaking - Slip N Slide Kemit Sources - An Ka Sein / Pas An Tombe - Ismaa Alex Attias Ed Motta - Patinete / Sus 4 Jam - Visions Isolee - Its About (inc Mocky mix) - Freundinnen Slum Village - Trinity (Past Present Future) - Capitol USA Instant House ( Joe Claussell ... ) - Instant House 1988 - 1993 ( LTD / inc Over / Awade / Lost Horizons ... ) - Natural Resource Dudley Perkins : Flowers Headman : It Rough - Chicken Lips Remix The Sea And Cake : One Bedroom Pepe Bradock : The Forbidden Fruit EP Joshua : Hustlin' EP Ana Rago - Youre God (inc mixes by I Cube Herbert) - Set The Mighty Bop feat Duncan Roy - Lady ( inc Herbert / Tom Joyce Remixes ) - Yellow Various - inc Atjazz / Charles Webster / Rythm Plate - Public Nylon Vol 2 - Mantis Brooks - You Me Us - Mantis Brooks - Pink Cigarettes - Mantis Norma Jean Bell - London Fog - Pandamonium Miss Bombay 1974 - Mahatmatronic / Hindustan Ambassador - Mantis Miguel Graca - Monkey Mass EP - Bombay Various - inc James Mason / Charles Earland / Marlena Shaw / Leon Thomas / Side Effect - Soul Brother Selection - Soul Brother Freddie Hubbard Title = Anthology - The Soul-Jazz and Fusion Years 66-82 ( inc Little Sunflower ) - Soul Brother Player 1/2 - Automan 4 (inc Wardance) - Automan Player 1/2 - Automan 2 ( inc Peaches Prunes ) - Automan Osunlade - Paradigm - Soul Jazz Projections - Between Here And Now - Guidance Muziq - Half Crazy ( The Other Version / Limited New House Mix ) - White Glad Today - The Music Solstice - M Break Glowing Glisses - On The Bridge ( Larry Heard Remixes ) - Dessous The Movers - Love Cosmic Spiritual - Life Line Little Louie Vega feat Arnold Jarvis - Life Goes On - MAW Savannah feat Chezere - The Right Time ( inc Trouble Men / Rurals Remixes ) / Ida V Vuelta / Night Of Time - Kif Passion Dance Orchestra - Alone Together - Inner Music Gotan Project - Santa Maria ( Del Buen Ayre ) ( Pepe Bradock / Tom Middleton Mixes ) - Ya Basta Kemeticjust - For Your Love (mixes by Pepe Bradock / Fresh Low / Needs / Dixon / Freestyle Man) - Silver Theo Parrish - Segments From The Fifth Wheel - Moods Grooves Russ Gabriel - Hes The Man - Out Of The Loop Pepe Bradock - Un Pepe En Or vol 2 - KIF Partial Arts ( Ewan Pearson / Al Usher ) - Canopy ( inc Riton / Russ Gabriel Mixes ) - Out Of The Loop Various Artists ( Black Strobe / Riton / John Tejada Titonton / J Rawls ) - Off Limits 3 PT 2 ( inc Russ Gabriel Remix) - Recreation / Sonar Kollektiv Russ Gabriel - Into The Unknown - Out Of The Loop Kemit Sources -
Re: (313) New Music and Elitism - Was Re: test
- Original Message - From: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: Re: (313) New Music and Elitism - Was Re: test I heard that there is a new carl craig track flooting around on cd'r anybody heard it yet ? Could it be this? http://www.bmg.fr/ecards/cesariaevora/angola_uk.html T-minus two weeks from what I hear. CAN'T WAIT! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Responsibility v. Courtesy
J.T. Apologies if this makes little sense, I'm a bit drunk. I fully agree with all that you said, and I only meant my 'a tad irresponsible' comment in regards to Moodymann particularly... in the sense that *his* bootlegs sell for such obscene amounts, and this is known so widely, and almost everything he's put out sells out, and so many people have bitched about the difficulty of getting his records before they sell out. While I totally agree this is in no way a reason to bootleg, and I totally agree that anyone who *really* wanted these records could have found a way to get the originals while they were in stores (except maybe Jeff who was on a boat ;), it seemed like an odd time to release strictly limited editions of music that is *so* in demand while that limitedness is clearly pissing so many people off. By 'a tad irresponsible' I just meant that a label should listen to their loyal audience, and the choice of that word in particular was overstated, and indeed a bit... irresponsible. ;) Again, I totally agree that a label is fully entitled to release as many copies as they want, but when we see things like the BOC record that goes for $500 and Moodymann records for $100 soon after release, you know it's time to press a few more copies - not that a label would have to, or even that they should, but it would be courteous, b/c risk is so small and it makes fans happy. To retract: I definitely should have said 'IMHO-discourteous', rather than 'irresponsible'. :) And I'm not trying to tell anyone how to run their shop, I just intended to mention a record-buying frustration that I feel is not entirely invalid. And just to reiterate, I think the thing that pisses me off the most is that given all of this, KDJ *may* have fully intended to do a repress (and it seems likely given the speed with which they hit stores post-bootleg), but he didn't even get the chance to do the re-release on his own terms b/c the thieves shortcutted that process. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) artists vs. bootlegging
Sorry to chime in so late. Have to say I'm feeling Matt. The one thing I would add is that even though I think it's a tad irresponsible to release records like these in limited numbers when we all know what the Ebay/GEMM markets are like, that still does not compell me to side with the bootleggers, because that's a preference and a pragmatic footnote to what is ultimately a moral (or artistic) issue - and if you don't buy that, it seems to me it's at least a good enough reason to want to kick someone's ass, whereas the idea of someone wanting to kick KDJ's ass for putting out too few records is absurd. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:22 PM Subject: (313) artists vs. bootlegging the bootleggers would have a lot less market if the record were repressed I can't disagree with that logic. BUT... I've been following this thread for awhile and a voice I'm not hearing in this debate (that is kind of troubling to me, actually) is the rights of the ARTIST. Art is not necessarily subject to the same demands as say, any old consumer product where the goal is to sell as many as possible (say, toothpaste or something). One of the benefits of owning and running your own label (or printshop, for example) is to control the trickle - or flood - of your art into an art-buyers market -- more control over your own destiny. You can still keep things limited or special if, as the artist, you feel like that is a part of your 'statement' so to speak, of what you have created. When a famous potter makes a vase, and they decide to make 5 of them, not 500... it makes that vase unique. You have to think the artist has a reason to only make 5 if that's what they choose. Is everyone forgetting that the artist has a right to release as many or as few pieces of art as they feel? Sure there are ramifications of releasing few, I'm not denying that: if demand is high enough and the art is scarce, it may get bootlegged. That is a risk. But an artist of any medium is certainly never OBLIGED to fill the needs of every consumer! That is the artists right. I have detected this slight tone of well if he just would have pressed up more it wouldn't matter, he deserved it, etc. -- but the reality is sometimes an artist might want LESS of something out there, not more, as part of the artistic statement itself. I respect artists who choose to release less, not more... even if I can't have a copy myself. But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to bootleg it (and profit from it) if I can't find my copy. peace, Matt
(313) Peacefrog Thread Hijack Was - Re: (313) UR
- Original Message - From: FC2 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 6:44 PM Subject: RE: (313) UR You know, I really don't seem to remember ever hearing anyone complaining about the boot legging of the Set Up 707 record that Edge of Motion put out on DJAX. I know DJAX had a limited press run that was put on clear vinyl. Probaby around 1,000 copies. DJAX never pressed another copy of it...yet I remember Record Time getting two very large shipments of this in on black white label vinyl. And I remember all my frineds being so happy that it was bootlegged so they could finally have a copy. I bought 2 copies of it...I sold one on eBay last year for $20. How evil does that make me?? Yeah, but you could've bought the Moodymann records when they came out, no? They didn't sell out *that* quickly. I got my copy of the 1st one at least two months after it was released, and the release was hyped plenty to know it would be coming. I wonder how this will effect the Peacefrog releases??? Has anyone heard? Were any actually released yet? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) artists vs. bootlegging
- Original Message - From: James Bucknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Innes Macnee [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:09 PM Subject: Re: (313) artists vs. bootlegging like most djs, i've got a large pile of bootlegs. everything from love is the message to derek may's wildtime remixes and the automan series. my favourite record stores have a special bootleg section, categorized by the different bootleg series. bootlegs are an important part of my record collection and any set i play. I think the difference is that with few exceptions, those records will not see a re-press, whereas with the UGE/Mohogany issue at-hand, the artist/label never even got a chance to repress them before the boots hit the street. If this is taken to its logical conclusion, artists will be forced to press up huge quantities of every record they want to release on the *assumption* that those records will sell quickly - and they will need to do it out of their own pocket (and I think this is just one of many bad consequences of a speedy bootleg). Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Shopping @ Tresor...
- Original Message - From: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: (313) Shopping @ Tresor... ... some of you may not have noticed that Tresor are having HUGE sales right now, @ EUR6 per item, tons of old stuff most of which is of Detroit interest... I just hope they're reliable ! http://www.tresor-records.de Yep, they are reliable, and quick. I got the 3MB + EFF record and an Infiniti from them in November, and had no problems. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) soul on wax #3 spirit of corea
- Original Message - From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 3:01 PM Subject: (313) soul on wax #3 spirit of corea speaking of jazz... everybody pick up soul on wax #3! first s.o.w. in what...4 years?? ha! produced by russ gabriel i should mention... Yes you should! :) anyways, it's absolutely beautiful house/jazz that sounds even a bit like fela kuti it is so buoyant and beautiful and catchy and a...deep. live sax, flute, and guitar -- but i don't think it's quite as noodly and laidback as russ' recent mostly live album on out of the loop (or is it? toe? were there any songs as good on there?) it's just not to be missed. only the 1 track and a pretty similar remix on the 12, but it is very worth it!...i'm not really a jazz dowg myself so seriously...don't sleep! soul on wax returns! Yeah. 2nd'd, 3rd'd and 4th'd. The album is just as good though. If it doesn't catch you at first, keep trying. Just about everything he's done since 2000 has been pretty stunning in my book. Here's a list of most of his recent output (other than Spirit of Corea and the album), all of which I can't recommend any higher, except the Wilkommen EP which I rate the highest of all these, but not by much over these two most recent ones. russ gabriel - offenbach west - out of the loop russ gabriel - flip down to break ep - emoticon russ gabriel - willkommen ep - out of the loop russ gabriel - now i can ep - nepenta russ gabriel - we will be turning - out of the loop russ gabriel - he's the man ep - out of the loop Remixes: purveyors of fine funk - stigmata jackson - nepenta And the recently re-released: black strobe - paris acid city - virgin/source website listed on the record but it's not setup yet..http://www.soulonwaxcom.com/ Maybe try http://www.russgabriel.com/soulonwax/index.html for now. Out of the Loop is going very strong (if that wasn't evident above). Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) ATP Play-by-Play: was Re: (313) Deadbeat?
- Original Message - From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: Re: (313) Deadbeat? Was it that Deadbeat thing at the weekend? It was All Tomorrow's Parties, wasn't it? Deadbeat was a few weeks back... Just back from ATP and barely conscious. A good time was definitely had by one and all. Carl Craig was good, but as with the last time I saw him, and on The Workout, I wish he would mix more aggressively. My favorite sets from him are always more active. Shake's set was not his finest - seemed to be having an off night, although he and the crowd both seemed to enjoy it quite a bit despite the mixing troubles. It got much better as it went on, but the first 1/2 of the set was pretty messy. We all have these nights though... b) 'Drexciyan DJ Stingray'?! Drexciyan DJ Stingray was tight, but hearing tracks like M4 and M5 played at 45 ruins them for me. The whole set was really really ghetto tech fast, but slowed a bit towards the end. It was a bit too much for me after 2 and a half days of non-stop movement and throbbing bass. Needless to say, Venetian Snares after him were equally lethal. I lasted about 10 minutes of their set before running in fear, clinging for sanity. However... there were tons of AMAZING moments throughout. I'll try to recap in order (and what I remember - thank goodness for this little line-up card): Friday The Fall were really good. Never seen them live. Not a ton for me to say really. Just good rock 'n roll. Public Enemy was fantastic. Haven't lost a step, and *everyone* was getting down. You could tell they were having a great time, and it was really infectious. Guy Called Gerald and C2 - remember liking both a lot and dancing a ton, but can't recall any specifics really. I think Gerald played a lot of house, but my memory is quite sketchy at this point. Missed Baby Ford and Gescom- ran out of steam around 3:00 after being up since 7:30. Will see Baby Ford on Wednesday and Gescom on Saturday though, so no urgency. Saturday (AKA the day when darkness reigned and time lost meaning) == Note: the venue upstairs was nearly pitch black in the middle of the day. This was severely disorienting. Recall finding out it was 7:30 pm, thinking it was 2:00 am... Checked Disjecta for about 15 minutes (he = Mark Clifford, once of Seefeel). He was basically just improvising on a guitar with crazy effects. It was really cool, but did my head in a bit after about 15 minutes. El-P and Murs - damn fine rather political hip hop. El-P had a nice 15 minute turntablism intro as well. Good stuff! Kool Keith and Kutmaster Kurt - really, really dissapointing. Utter crap. What has happened to Dr. Doom??? Bola (apparently didn't show) but the visuals while they played some of his music (I think) were mind-blowing. Someone else may be able to fill in gaps about this. [things get very very blurry] Aphex Twin - WOW!!! Played about an hour of 110bpmish-techno-industrial-signature-aphex-god-knows-what that sounded like nothing I've ever heard before. I believe most of this was live. Concluded with an hour of drum 'n bass - lots of ragga included. Wicked. Skam DJs. Lots of fun. Degraded into making out with some woman on the dancefloor. VERY obnoxious. Apologies to anyone who witnessed. In bed at a healthy 7:30am. Sunday = Arrive about 1/2-way through Stasis. Playing nice house rather poorly. Strictly Kev is a no-show (or maybe showed up about 10 minutes b4 the end of his set???) Stasis played lots of hip hop. Never heard so much 'Stakes is High' in one weekend. This is good. Checked Jim O'Rourke for about 15 minutes. Nice pure ambience (i.e. no discernable beat). Not suiting my mood. Head back for more Stasis/Kev/Whatever. Graham Massey - appears on stage with enormous wire-lantern-bulbous-head-thing. I leave immediately. Coil (probably my most anticipated show) - really long set-up process (like 45 minutes). Really weird experimental vocally stuff with 3 Nords?!? Cool stuff. Not right for the moment. Run downstaris for... LFO (Mark Bell) DJ set. Had no idea what to expect from this. It probably wound up as my favorite set of the festival. Tons of techno classics mixed absolutely flawlessly (using Traktor + 1 CD player it looked like). I suspect he was cueing up two instances of the same track in Traktor and rocking doubles with it. Was really really effective. His mixing was seriously amazing. He finished with what were surely three new LFO tracks - and I can promise you, the wait has been worth it. He's gone off the IDM deep-end, but the result is pretty stunning, and really complex. I can't wait. Shake's set previosly mentioned. G-Man: played for about 20 minutes of his live set and some assbag pulled the fire alarm (or maybe it was a real fire???) - no one seemed to know for sure. Retreated to chalet. Returned just in time for the beginning of Mark Broom. I danced non-stop.
(313) Instant House
In case y'all didn't know, Natural Resource released a limited 3x pack of Joe Clausell's finest from '88-'93 recently, which I imagine will appeal to some folks here. I'm still wrapping my head around it, but I often need to really immerse myself in older house to 'get' it. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Online record shopping
- Original Message - From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 8:54 PM Subject: RE: (313) Online record shopping The ONLY thing I don't like about being in-store, is the fact that they always have ppl spinning RIGHT in front of the listening stationswhich can make it hard to preview and concentrate. Anyone else feel me here? I feel ya. Both stores. As you say, it's a minor complaint though. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Re: Mark Wilson / Open House
- Original Message - From: Minto George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 6:09 AM Subject: (313) Re: Mark Wilson / Open House man! glad someone else out there acknowledges this guy for his work. He still lives in NY and works for FOX i think. I tried contacting him a while back about licensing some of the old Nu Groove and Lethal tracks but he's a hard man to reach apparently. I should probably try contacting him again. Of course he's well known by 313 music fans working with John Beltran on Retroactive Buzz, but some of the best stuff was his solo stuff most people have never heard. Mad as hell on Lethal is still one of my favs. Wuh? John Beltran on Retroactive and Buzz??? Do tell! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) new additions
- Original Message - From: Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: (313) new additions Hi, these are two of my latest buys and recommendations: Drugs vs. ChateauFlight - Brain no Drugs - kraked001 i have never heard of these guys nor the label (duh! its their first release!!!) but i bought them after reading the hardwax mailout. The sound is very deep and funky in a 70s blaxploitation vein, but also very psychedelic with strange and distrorted vocal samples going on about drugs and pharmaceutical companies. I listen to it everyday when i get home from work. The remix is on one side, with the orginal, more acoustic but trippy nonetheless version on the other side along with another mix. It says it is recorded in Woodstock and remixed in Paris and features a guy called Glongo Ceirten. Thanks for the recommendations Fab! Both sound good. Not sure if you don't know Brain no Drugs or Chateau Flight, but if you don't know the latter, it's Gilb'r and I:Cube from Versatile Records in Paris. Excellent producers. No idea about the former though. :/ For the Londoners, Gilb'r and Joakim (Tigersushi/Versatile) are both playing at 93 Feet East tonight for the monthly London Xpress party. Simon Haggis is upstairs too. See ya there. :) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Clone against Groovetech.com
- Original Message - From: Brent Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: Re: (313) Clone against Groovetech.com The reason I like Groovetech though, is that if they don't have something in stock, this fact is accurately reflected on their web page. I have yet to find another online record mail order house that has ever completely filled one of my orders, besides Groovetech. They also fill the orders faster than other companies that I have ordered from. I agree that Groovetech has great accuracy with their order-filling, but they are not the only ones, and they certainly do not stock enough to keep me happy on their own. In my buying spree this month I bought 50 records. 31 were from Vinyl Junkies, 8 from Groovetech, 5 from Rush Hour and 6 from Piccadilly Records in Manchester, who have just launched their website (a really great store BTW). All of my orders were filled 100% from each of these stores (and of all of my orders from all of these stores *ever*, Vinyl Junkies is the only one who has missed anything, and they've only missed 1 record of at least 100 so far). All are great stores if you are satisfied to split your orders among many stores. If not, just go to Vinyl Junkies, b/c they are the best store for new house music, with Rush Hour running a close second due to shipping fees. ;) Oh, Paul from Inner City seems to make lots of people really happy too - not too mention all the Scottish stores... For the record, I haven't ordered anything from Clone ever, but it's not really my cup of tea. However, I totally agree with their ideology that smaller stores probably need your currency more than Groovetech, and I try to support accordingly. I don't agree that Groovetech should be boycotted because of one anecdote of bad bill-paying. Frankly, the world of music if far too complex to take these single examples to heart. If I heard of multiple labels or distributors getting shafted by them, I might avoid them entirely, but one or two emails on [313] about it really doesn't do a lot to presuade me one way or the other. It just prepares me for a public rebuke which may or may not come, and smells more of dirty-laundry-airing than politically motivated excitation. Until I'm persuaded I shouldn't, I'll keep filling holes in my orders with Groovetech shipments. Also, in the states I think they are the best distributor hands-down, and the shipping savings they offer are very compelling. When I was there, I used them as my first stop. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) best octave one tracks (was: OCTAVE ONE INTERVIEW)
I've always loved 'Terraforming' from The Collective 2x12, also 'And All That Remains', but I don't claim to be an expert on the matter. I discovered them a bit late in life. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) OT: Movement Hotel Tip
In a 1/2-deluded state this morning I took a gamble on that Priceline email that wound up in my inbox and got a room from Sat-Tues @ the Omni Detroit River Palace for $64/night. It's that funny lookin' brown bulding sorta next to the Ren Cen. Not as good as the $45/night deals from a couple of years ago which are sure to never emege again, but it seems OK to me. Obviously there's no gaurantee you'll get the same deal, and you might want to remember to book for the Friday too (Doh!) but thought I'd pass along the tip. Probably a Priceline-only offer. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) best octave one tracks (was: OCTAVE ONE INTERVIEW)
- Original Message - From: nathan goode [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) best octave one tracks (was: OCTAVE ONE INTERVIEW) Burujha also came out on vinyl on the Art Soul ep in 99. That track is amazing! always manages bring a tear to the eye each time i hear it, such a beautiful track. Is this the one with the trumpet? If so, it looks like maybe I'm not doing so bad after all. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
