[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
It's an almost decent assessment, but the photos, definitely should be replaced! No doubt! I think the Council, should place their own comments, don't you? The piece doesn't do Asbury enough justice, IMHO! I saw a jewel, no, the Pearl, I envision, when I talk about AP! I was impressed to no end, with all of the activity and beauty, I surveyed. I am never one, to talk to strangers, and I found myself, talking to anyone, who would listen! People were smiling, enjoying the ocean, the boards; everything. I was happy as all get out and sorry, I hadn't taken advantage of the beautiful place, we call home, before! Yeah, yeah, I know, we aren't THERE, yet, but you have to crawl, before you walk, as my dad, always said! There are REAL possibilities here! Now, if we could just get those cameras! Me, who is a civil libertarian, stating this! I must be getting old! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia 1. Just some observations I've made recently. Reuters reports that Wikipedia is now the top online news and information destination, according to Nielsen//NetRatings. Online encyclopedia Wikipedia has added about 20 million unique monthly visitors in the past year. In May, Wikipedia had 46.8 million unique visitors, up 72 percent from June 2006, NetRatings said. Wikipedia also has finished on top of the news and information category every month this year -- ranking ahead of Landmark Communications' Weather Channel site by an increasing margin -- topping out with a disparity of about 10 million visitors in May. 2. As I understand it, the rank of results at Google is based on what sites users are visiting. Right now, a search for Asbury Park will show Wikipedia ranked as number 3 or 4 out of approximately 2,000,000 hits. 3. Here is the main entry about our city: Click here: Asbury Park, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbury_Park%2C_New_Jersey Overall, not fully representative of The Rising of Asbury Rising. 4. Here are the current comments at the talk page for that entry at Wikipedia: Click here: Talk:Asbury Park, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asbury_Park%2C_New_Jersey === Talk: Asbury Park, New Jersey, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Negativity Is it just me or do the photos in this suggest a lot of negativity? Crumbling, dilapidated, vacant these are all used in the captions of the photos and suggest the demise of the town. However, the article doesn't talk about a decline and, instead, focuses on redevelopment. What are the views on this? The photos seem to suggest one point of view (that Asbury Park's a piece of crap [pardon the French]) and the article suggests another (Asbury Park: Getting' better every day). Thoughts? 12 January 2007 (UTC) I totally agree-- the same thoughts passed through my head as I read it. Perhaps some new photos are in order? 17:56, 24 June 2007 (UTC) have you ever been there? talk it up all you want, this city is positively terrifying. = I'm hoping (suggesting) that the powers that be* have some content and images that more accurately reflect our progress at this time. Various news sources, marketing, and real estate interests have recently published many terrific images (E.g., Paramount Theater renovations, the new Hobo's, parades, et al.) They show us in a more positive light than what you'll see there now: the old Beirut-by-the-Sea stuff. It is not very difficult to edit a Wikipedia article or comment on the talk or discussion pages. Much easier, less time and effort than it took to carry out this year's a fantastic Road Trip event. Hoping that the professionals* with expertise in this area might add this to their To Do Lists. *(Chamber of Commerce, UEZ, City Hall/Council, Asbury Partners, Madison Marquette? Somebody?) [Photo by Andrei Jackamets] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
In a message dated 7/30/2007 8:21:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the photos, definitely should be replaced! ... I think the Council, should place their own comments, don't you? The piece doesn't do Asbury enough justice, === Anyone can edit the text or add pictures; enough passion in the people on the list to maintain it. I'm thinking, the Historical Society (also people like Werner and Kate with her Coaster pix); and MM people might want to take a shot at it first with pix. Coaster and TriCity should have file photos too. Businesses add links. Other Asbury Park web sites can add their input and links. Controversies in a special section (maybe). E/g., Eminent Domain, et al. Talk / Discussion pages allow for comments and resolution of disputed content. Text should emphasize new dynamism to balance the old old stuff about riots and decay. Wiki articles are always somewhat in flux, as in maintenance, but founder Jimbo Wales was on TV this weekend explaining the self-policing control the site maintains. Considering the number of visits the site gets, care of the site should be no small matter for us. For better or worse, Wiki is becoming more and more at first stop for students, journalists; even some judges accept references from there it's been reported. See CONTRIBUTING at _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About) Maybe all the passion, expertise, and debate on this board could be harnessed for good. cf.: No depressing pix here: _Click here: Coney Island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coney_Island) Monmouth County list at bottom here : _Click here: Monmouth County, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monmouth_County) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
I agree that many, many people use Wiki. So you are absolutely right - we should endeavor to make it better. This also highlight why Wiki isn't a reliable source. As you say, the Asbury Park installment, taken as a whole, seems misleading. THe same is true for much of Wiki. It's OK for facts beyond dispute (birth and death dates, etc, but awful for anything subject to interpretation). Just wait until you see the fight you're in for when you try to change it. People who think just anyone can change it are wrong. There are a number of Wiki people out their, with no expertise on anything, that have veto power on what you put up there. They monitor every chnage. IF they don't like it, they change it back. I hope you can get it done. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/30/2007 8:21:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the photos, definitely should be replaced! ... I think the Council, should place their own comments, don't you? The piece doesn't do Asbury enough justice, === Anyone can edit the text or add pictures; enough passion in the people on the list to maintain it. I'm thinking, the Historical Society (also people like Werner and Kate with her Coaster pix); and MM people might want to take a shot at it first with pix. Coaster and TriCity should have file photos too. Businesses add links. Other Asbury Park web sites can add their input and links. Controversies in a special section (maybe). E/g., Eminent Domain, et al. Talk / Discussion pages allow for comments and resolution of disputed content. Text should emphasize new dynamism to balance the old old stuff about riots and decay. Wiki articles are always somewhat in flux, as in maintenance, but founder Jimbo Wales was on TV this weekend explaining the self-policing control the site maintains. Considering the number of visits the site gets, care of the site should be no small matter for us. For better or worse, Wiki is becoming more and more at first stop for students, journalists; even some judges accept references from there it's been reported. See CONTRIBUTING at _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About) Maybe all the passion, expertise, and debate on this board could be harnessed for good. cf.: No depressing pix here: _Click here: Coney Island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coney_Island) Monmouth County list at bottom here : _Click here: Monmouth County, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monmouth_County) ** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
The city can't ever maintain their own website. Visitors will only find dead links for Special Events, Places of Interest, Beech Cam, Downtown Cam and so much more. Poor source of information for people interested in Asbury Park. - Original Message From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:18:56 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia It's an almost decent assessment, but the photos, definitely should be replaced! No doubt! I think the Council, should place their own comments, don't you? The piece doesn't do Asbury enough justice, IMHO! I saw a jewel, no, the Pearl, I envision, when I talk about AP! I was impressed to no end, with all of the activity and beauty, I surveyed. I am never one, to talk to strangers, and I found myself, talking to anyone, who would listen! People were smiling, enjoying the ocean, the boards; everything. I was happy as all get out and sorry, I hadn't taken advantage of the beautiful place, we call home, before! Yeah, yeah, I know, we aren't THERE, yet, but you have to crawl, before you walk, as my dad, always said! There are REAL possibilities here! Now, if we could just get those cameras! Me, who is a civil libertarian, stating this! I must be getting old! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia 1. Just some observations I've made recently. Reuters reports that Wikipedia is now the top online news and information destination, according to Nielsen//NetRatings . Online encyclopedia Wikipedia has added about 20 million unique monthly visitors in the past year. In May, Wikipedia had 46.8 million unique visitors, up 72 percent from June 2006, NetRatings said. Wikipedia also has finished on top of the news and information category every month this year -- ranking ahead of Landmark Communications' Weather Channel site by an increasing margin -- topping out with a disparity of about 10 million visitors in May. 2. As I understand it, the rank of results at Google is based on what sites users are visiting. Right now, a search for Asbury Park will show Wikipedia ranked as number 3 or 4 out of approximately 2,000,000 hits. 3. Here is the main entry about our city: Click here: Asbury Park, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Asbury_Park% 2C_New_Jersey Overall, not fully representative of The Rising of Asbury Rising. 4. Here are the current comments at the talk page for that entry at Wikipedia: Click here: Talk:Asbury Park, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Talk:Asbury_ Park%2C_New_ Jersey = = = = = == Talk: Asbury Park, New Jersey, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Negativity Is it just me or do the photos in this suggest a lot of negativity? Crumbling, dilapidated, vacant these are all used in the captions of the photos and suggest the demise of the town. However, the article doesn't talk about a decline and, instead, focuses on redevelopment. What are the views on this? The photos seem to suggest one point of view (that Asbury Park's a piece of crap [pardon the French]) and the article suggests another (Asbury Park: Getting' better every day). Thoughts? 12 January 2007 (UTC) I totally agree-- the same thoughts passed through my head as I read it. Perhaps some new photos are in order? 17:56, 24 June 2007 (UTC) have you ever been there? talk it up all you want, this city is positively terrifying. = = = = = I'm hoping (suggesting) that the powers that be* have some content and images that more accurately reflect our progress at this time. Various news sources, marketing, and real estate interests have recently published many terrific images (E.g., Paramount Theater renovations, the new Hobo's, parades, et al.) They show us in a more positive light than what you'll see there now: the old Beirut-by-the- Sea stuff. It is not very difficult to edit a Wikipedia article or comment on the talk or discussion pages. Much easier, less time and effort than it took to carry out this year's a fantastic Road Trip event. Hoping that the professionals* with expertise in this area might add this to their To Do Lists. *(Chamber of Commerce, UEZ, City Hall/Council, Asbury Partners, Madison Marquette? Somebody?) [Photo by Andrei Jackamets] Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
This would be a perfect job for the Asbury Park Historic Society, but, are they actually still a functioning group? The reason I ask is that I tried contacting them several times around the time that the Library Square Park fountain was vandalized, and I heard nothing from them. This surprised me, because they renovated the fountain and had a sprinkler system installed, but after both of those were damaged I have yet to see or hear anything from the society about this. It's like they went into the park and did some good work, then they pretty much forgot about the place. I'm sure it hurt them to find their efforts destroyed, but that doesn't mean that you just give up and move on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The city can't ever maintain their own website. Visitors will only find dead links for Special Events, Places of Interest, Beech Cam, Downtown Cam and so much more. Poor source of information for people interested in Asbury Park. - Original Message From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:18:56 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia It's an almost decent assessment, but the photos, definitely should be replaced! No doubt! I think the Council, should place their own comments, don't you? The piece doesn't do Asbury enough justice, IMHO! I saw a jewel, no, the Pearl, I envision, when I talk about AP! I was impressed to no end, with all of the activity and beauty, I surveyed. I am never one, to talk to strangers, and I found myself, talking to anyone, who would listen! People were smiling, enjoying the ocean, the boards; everything. I was happy as all get out and sorry, I hadn't taken advantage of the beautiful place, we call home, before! Yeah, yeah, I know, we aren't THERE, yet, but you have to crawl, before you walk, as my dad, always said! There are REAL possibilities here! Now, if we could just get those cameras! Me, who is a civil libertarian, stating this! I must be getting old! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mario MarioAPNJ@ .. wrote: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia 1. Just some observations I've made recently. Reuters reports that Wikipedia is now the top online news and information destination, according to Nielsen//NetRatings . Online encyclopedia Wikipedia has added about 20 million unique monthly visitors in the past year. In May, Wikipedia had 46.8 million unique visitors, up 72 percent from June 2006, NetRatings said. Wikipedia also has finished on top of the news and information category every month this year -- ranking ahead of Landmark Communications' Weather Channel site by an increasing margin -- topping out with a disparity of about 10 million visitors in May. 2. As I understand it, the rank of results at Google is based on what sites users are visiting. Right now, a search for Asbury Park will show Wikipedia ranked as number 3 or 4 out of approximately 2,000,000 hits. 3. Here is the main entry about our city: Click here: Asbury Park, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Asbury_Park% 2C_New_Jersey Overall, not fully representative of The Rising of Asbury Rising. 4. Here are the current comments at the talk page for that entry at Wikipedia: Click here: Talk:Asbury Park, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Talk:Asbury_ Park%2C_New_ Jersey = = = = = == Talk: Asbury Park, New Jersey, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Negativity Is it just me or do the photos in this suggest a lot of negativity? Crumbling, dilapidated, vacant these are all used in the captions of the photos and suggest the demise of the town. However, the article doesn't talk about a decline and, instead, focuses on redevelopment. What are the views on this? The photos seem to suggest one point of view (that Asbury Park's a piece of crap [pardon the French]) and the article suggests another (Asbury Park: Getting' better every day). Thoughts? 12 January 2007 (UTC) I totally agree-- the same thoughts passed through my head as I read it. Perhaps some new photos are in order? 17:56, 24 June 2007 (UTC) have you ever been there? talk it up all you want, this city is positively terrifying. = = = = = I'm hoping (suggesting) that the powers that be* have some content and images that more accurately reflect our progress at this time. Various news sources, marketing, and real estate interests have recently published many terrific images (E.g., Paramount Theater renovations, the new Hobo's, parades, et al.) They show us in a more positive light than what you'll see there now: the old Beirut-by-the- Sea stuff. It is not very
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
Laura Jewell has access to many great photos from her own camera, the City and the developers. Maybe we should contact her to fix the Wiki. It is her job anyway, which will perhaps also get her past the Wiki editors when she makes the changes. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The city can't ever maintain their own website. Visitors will only find dead links for Special Events, Places of Interest, Beech Cam, Downtown Cam and so much more. Poor source of information for people interested in Asbury Park. - Original Message From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:18:56 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia It's an almost decent assessment, but the photos, definitely should be replaced! No doubt! I think the Council, should place their own comments, don't you? The piece doesn't do Asbury enough justice, IMHO! I saw a jewel, no, the Pearl, I envision, when I talk about AP! I was impressed to no end, with all of the activity and beauty, I surveyed. I am never one, to talk to strangers, and I found myself, talking to anyone, who would listen! People were smiling, enjoying the ocean, the boards; everything. I was happy as all get out and sorry, I hadn't taken advantage of the beautiful place, we call home, before! Yeah, yeah, I know, we aren't THERE, yet, but you have to crawl, before you walk, as my dad, always said! There are REAL possibilities here! Now, if we could just get those cameras! Me, who is a civil libertarian, stating this! I must be getting old! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mario MarioAPNJ@ .. wrote: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia 1. Just some observations I've made recently. Reuters reports that Wikipedia is now the top online news and information destination, according to Nielsen//NetRatings . Online encyclopedia Wikipedia has added about 20 million unique monthly visitors in the past year. In May, Wikipedia had 46.8 million unique visitors, up 72 percent from June 2006, NetRatings said. Wikipedia also has finished on top of the news and information category every month this year -- ranking ahead of Landmark Communications' Weather Channel site by an increasing margin -- topping out with a disparity of about 10 million visitors in May. 2. As I understand it, the rank of results at Google is based on what sites users are visiting. Right now, a search for Asbury Park will show Wikipedia ranked as number 3 or 4 out of approximately 2,000,000 hits. 3. Here is the main entry about our city: Click here: Asbury Park, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Asbury_Park% 2C_New_Jersey Overall, not fully representative of The Rising of Asbury Rising. 4. Here are the current comments at the talk page for that entry at Wikipedia: Click here: Talk:Asbury Park, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Talk:Asbury_ Park%2C_New_ Jersey = = = = = == Talk: Asbury Park, New Jersey, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Negativity Is it just me or do the photos in this suggest a lot of negativity? Crumbling, dilapidated, vacant these are all used in the captions of the photos and suggest the demise of the town. However, the article doesn't talk about a decline and, instead, focuses on redevelopment. What are the views on this? The photos seem to suggest one point of view (that Asbury Park's a piece of crap [pardon the French]) and the article suggests another (Asbury Park: Getting' better every day). Thoughts? 12 January 2007 (UTC) I totally agree-- the same thoughts passed through my head as I read it. Perhaps some new photos are in order? 17:56, 24 June 2007 (UTC) have you ever been there? talk it up all you want, this city is positively terrifying. = = = = = I'm hoping (suggesting) that the powers that be* have some content and images that more accurately reflect our progress at this time. Various news sources, marketing, and real estate interests have recently published many terrific images (E.g., Paramount Theater renovations, the new Hobo's, parades, et al.) They show us in a more positive light than what you'll see there now: the old Beirut-by-the- Sea stuff. It is not very difficult to edit a Wikipedia article or comment on the talk or discussion pages. Much easier, less time and effort than it took to carry out this year's a fantastic Road Trip event. Hoping that the professionals* with expertise in this area might add this to their To Do Lists. *(Chamber of Commerce, UEZ, City Hall/Council, Asbury Partners, Madison Marquette? Somebody?) [Photo by Andrei Jackamets]
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The city can't ever maintain their own website. Visitors will only find dead links for Special Events, Places of Interest, Beech Cam, Downtown Cam and so much more. Poor source of information for people interested in Asbury Park. == Oh stop complaining, Things have never been better in the last decade. Everything is rosey and running like clockwork. The website has lots of nice colors on it, looks good to me. Is complainers like you holding Asbury Park back. LOL, ROTFL, Werner (the opinions expressed are not those of this author) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
Don't sweat Werner's insult, Alan. The fact that you will give the City compliments where deserved and criticism where deserved (like the website) shows that you are an open-minded and fair person, and your opinions can be relied upon. Clearly you have no axe to grind and are only interested in truth. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: The city can't ever maintain their own website. Visitors will only find dead links for Special Events, Places of Interest, Beech Cam, Downtown Cam and so much more. Poor source of information for people interested in Asbury Park. == Oh stop complaining, Things have never been better in the last decade. Everything is rosey and running like clockwork. The website has lots of nice colors on it, looks good to me. Is complainers like you holding Asbury Park back. LOL, ROTFL, Werner (the opinions expressed are not those of this author) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't sweat Werner's insult, Alan. There you go again, characterizing another's post as something it is not. Wil you ever stop doing that? I was not insulting Allan. If he feels insulted he would tell me himself. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
Saying that you are laughing out loud and rolling on the floor laughing at the gentleman's observations are not an insult? How would you describe it? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Don't sweat Werner's insult, Alan. There you go again, characterizing another's post as something it is not. Wil you ever stop doing that? I was not insulting Allan. If he feels insulted he would tell me himself. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saying that you are laughing out loud and rolling on the floor laughing at the gentleman's observations are not an insult? How would you describe it? And you wonder why you have an internet stalker? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saying that you are laughing out loud and rolling on the floor laughing at the gentleman's observations are not an insult? How would you describe it? === I was laughing at my own wit and sarcasm. So that folks would not think my comment was a serious critique. Although, others have used the same logic - 'oh, stop complaining' - for other legitimate concerns, and no one characterizes it as an insult. Double standards here perhaps? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The soundtrack to every summer Sunday night - Paradise
Yikes. I don't know if I can take much more. Every Sunday night, Paradise has an outdoor party with a very loud DJ who plays the same terrible disco hits, Barbara Streisand and other assorted music over and over again. He even played the same music last summer. Unfortunately, I live about a block away and this soundtrack pounds into my living room every single Sunday night until 10pm. While I have no problem at all with having a fun night at Paradise, perhaps they could diversify their playlists a bit more so that I don't have to hear Last Chance by Donna Summer ever again. I have to believe that the patrons there have a bit better musical tastes then this repetitive crap that i'm forced to listen to. Last night, I had to close my windows because the volume was out of control, thus ruining my summer nights breeze and the quiet that we should have on a Sunday night. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The soundtrack to every summer Sunday night - Paradise
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes. I don't know if I can take much more. Every Sunday night, Paradise has an outdoor party with a very loud DJ who plays the same terrible disco hits, Barbara Streisand and other assorted music over and over again. === Oh stop complaining, Things have never been better in the last decade. Everything is rosey and running like clockwork. The music is festive and shows activity, sounds good to me. It's complainers likeyou holding Asbury Park back. LOL, ROTFL, Werner (the opinions expressed are not those of this author) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The soundtrack to every summer Sunday night - Paradise
Hmmm, a wee bit sarcastic today? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Yikes. I don't know if I can take much more. Every Sunday night, Paradise has an outdoor party with a very loud DJ who plays the same terrible disco hits, Barbara Streisand and other assorted music over and over again. === Oh stop complaining, Things have never been better in the last decade. Everything is rosey and running like clockwork. The music is festive and shows activity, sounds good to me. It's complainers likeyou holding Asbury Park back. LOL, ROTFL, Werner (the opinions expressed are not those of this author) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
anyone can update the Wikipedia entries. It's real easy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The soundtrack to every summer Sunday night - Paradise
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes. I don't know if I can take much more. Every Sunday night, Paradise has an outdoor party with a very loud DJ who plays the same terrible disco hits, Barbara Streisand and other assorted music over and over again. Think future of Stone Pony outdoor concerts. Hmmm, what will owners of expensive condos think? Problem with residential in close proximity to entertainment and commercial uses. That's why I bought 5 blocks back, close enough to beach, yet far enough from the noise. However, you are welcome to come over to my house at night and be serenaded to mariachi music till well past 10pm on weekends. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] lost of post stored in yahoo
All of my old post have disappeared from my account did anyone else lose any of your email stored in yahoo? I only have today's post in my account Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The soundtrack to every summer Sunday night - Paradise
Mariachi music!!! Nice. The one thing that the SP has going for it's outdoor shows is that their PA system faces directly out to the ocean, which minimizes bleed on either side, and most of the PA systems they bring in are fairly directional. During last nights Paradise Disco extravaganza, they were actually drowning out the show at the Pony. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Yikes. I don't know if I can take much more. Every Sunday night, Paradise has an outdoor party with a very loud DJ who plays the same terrible disco hits, Barbara Streisand and other assorted music over and over again. Think future of Stone Pony outdoor concerts. Hmmm, what will owners of expensive condos think? Problem with residential in close proximity to entertainment and commercial uses. That's why I bought 5 blocks back, close enough to beach, yet far enough from the noise. However, you are welcome to come over to my house at night and be serenaded to mariachi music till well past 10pm on weekends. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
Anyone can update Wiki, but making it stick is the problem. People there have seniority depending upon how much they use the site. At some point they get granted a certain status. Accordingly, the people who use it most are the ones who have time - high school and college kids. If one of these guys with seniority doesn't like your post, not only can he take it down, he can suspend your posting privileges. Understand I'm not talking about someone actually connected with the ownership of Wiki - I'm talking about another usuer. So if some scientist wants to post something about stem cell research, and a High Schooler with seniority disagrees, the High Schooler gets to decide if it stays. Popular site? Absolutely - Mario's right we should change the Asbury Park entry. Reliable site? Not a chance (proof is that we are talking about having to change the entry in the fisrt place). --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone can update the Wikipedia entries. It's real easy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: lost of post stored in yahoo
This same thing happened to me a few times, and when it did my old emails always magically wound up still being there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of my old post have disappeared from my account did anyone else lose any of your email stored in yahoo? I only have today's post in my account Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:34 PM, justifiedright wrote: Accordingly, the people who use it most are the ones who have time - high school and college kids. Unfortunately, it is also used quite often by journalists.
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
It also is usually at the top of search results for virtually everything when using google --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:34 PM, justifiedright wrote: Accordingly, the people who use it most are the ones who have time - high school and college kids. Unfortunately, it is also used quite often by journalists. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:34 PM, justifiedright wrote: Accordingly, the people who use it most are the ones who have time - high school and college kids. Unfortunately, it is also used quite often by journalists. and was recently cited by a NYS Supreme Court judge in a decision. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
Very scary. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:34 PM, justifiedright wrote: Accordingly, the people who use it most are the ones who have time - high school and college kids. Unfortunately, it is also used quite often by journalists. and was recently cited by a NYS Supreme Court judge in a decision. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
Dan wrote: and was recently cited by a NYS Supreme Court judge in a decision. Yes it was. Many of the criticisms mentioned here deal with issues that have been ironed out. Last week's NYT reported that Wiki media is now giving Google a run for its money. IP addresses of people who hack or screw up with biased or incorrect information or refuse to be civil about disagreements on the discussion pages are blocked from editing. Jimbo Wales ( _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo_Wales_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo_Wales) ) founded Wiki and did a 45 minute interview at C-Span this weekend. He explains away most of the issues raised at the above link or at the interview here: Lookfor RECENT PROGRAMS __ (http://www.c-span.org/videoarchives.asp?CatCodePairs=Series,APSArchiveDays=100) _American Perspectives: Jimbo Wales, Dan Rather, Tammy Bruce_ (javascript:playClip(clip31856)) (07/28/2007)here: _Click here: C-SPAN: AMERICAN PERSPECTIVES_ (http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=SeriesCode=APSShowVidNum=10Rot_Cat_CD=APSRot_HT=206Rot_WD=ShowVid Days=100ShowVidDesc=ArchiveDays=100) The success of the site is partly attributed to the fact that info without citations are labeled as so, and therefore, suspect. Of course the site would have to be monitored, just as this board is for misinformation. Considering the high traffic the site receives now, it could be a very valuable PR tool for the city. High Schools and colleges are now clamping down on students using Wiki for research, just as in the old days we were not permitted to use encyclopedias as sources. If we all collaborated and reached consensus, the entry would remain intact. They now have all sorts of safeguards in place. Can't see why the city or developers wouldn't want to look into it -- all free PR. As it stands now, with some of those pictures , can't see why anyone would follow up if he or she were thinking of buying here. BTW: Way back when, when I objected to a legend about the fighter Max in Hitler's Germany, I submitted the additional info from the NYT letter to the editor. My addition was thoroughly scrutinized and then made permanent by those who watch over that entry. Hope this thread doesn't get hijacked by irrelevant info -- since we all care about this city so much. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
See Statement of Principles: _Click here: User:Jimbo Wales - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo_Wales) Jimbo ends his page with Many Wikipedians watch over my user page and will edit mercilessly or even remove altogether any bad faith alterations made. This is a wiki, after all. FAQ's _Click here: Wikipedia:FAQ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ) Everything you need to know. This is Mario, after all. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: Way back when, when I objected to a legend about the fighter Max in Hitler's Germany, I submitted the additional info from the NYT letter to the editor. My addition was thoroughly scrutinized and then made permanent by those who watch over that entry. Also known as High Schoolers. If Wiki accepted that from you, I rest my case. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Update BCH
I have made a contact with Chetrit and he is expecting my call. I will get to it in a few days. I am preparing for a trial right now. I will verify what I heard from him through a friend that he will break ground or really start in earnest soon. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
In a message dated 7/30/2007 1:05:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It also is usually at the top of search results for virtually everything when using google Google's algorithm (sp?) Power of the marketplace. On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:34 PM, justifiedright wrote: Unfortunately, it is also used quite often by journalists. Wales explained that a good example of watching Wiki at work would be to watch an entry about any controversial person or issue. Thousands of volunteers monitor the entry for George W. Bush and other political entries. Any inappropriate edit, he says would be removed with minites, he claims. The Supreme Court Wiki _Click here: Courts Turn to Wikipedia, but Selectively - New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/29/technology/29wikipedia.html?ex=1185940800en=34 7c0f5d37ac4046ei=5070) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[AsburyPark] Wi-Fi
Ocean City is a town that prides itself on tradition and old-fashioned charm. But that doesn't mean it can't keep up with the latest technology. The city is taking a lead among shore resorts, planning to have a Wi-Fi network up and running by January. That means the entire town would be a hot spot. Computer and cell phone users would have access to the Internet from anywhere. That puts the resort in the company of major cities like Seattle and Philadelphia, where Internet access is one more draw for potential residents and visitors. http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/opinion/editorials/story/7493520p-7389240c.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Todays reason why we need the surveillence system - Three rob Asbury Park man
Three rob Asbury Park man Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 07/30/07 ASBURY PARK — Three young men stole an iPod from a 31-year-old city man as he walked in the area of Asbury Avenue and Bond Street, police said. Around 1:45 a.m. Sunday, the three robbers approached the victim and one struck the 31- year-old in the face, said Capt. David Kelso. They stole his iPod and ran away. The victim refused medical attention, said Kelso. The robbers were described as men in their 20s who wore white T-shirts and blue jeans. Detective Jason LaRusso is handling the investigation. Anyone with information is asked to call him at (732) 502-4588. -- Michelle Sahn Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
In a message dated 7/30/2007 3:02:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: Way back when, when I objected to a legend about the fighter Max in Hitler's Germany, I submitted the additional info from the NYT letter to the editor. My addition was thoroughly scrutinized and then made permanent by those who watch over that entry. Also known as High Schoolers. Your resting your case carries no weight. My source was a letter to the NYT by a holocaust survivor, still living who was checked out. That's more scrutiny than any of your columns get. As you're won't to say to others here, You're wrong. And I won't get dragged into showing you correspondence I had with the non-high schoolers, 'cause you're just be contrarian as usual. justified also wrote: If Wiki accepted that from you, I rest my case. Sounds like an insult to me. But I won't stomp out of here crying about it as you prone to do like a grammar schooler. Similar to your insults to Werner and others about theiir whining. That's an insult. which you denied in an endless thread of denials. Maureen is right! You're here just to start cul de sac arguments. Once again, you've hijacked a thread. Your questioning the credibility of Wiki is kettle / black. They still have their problems but work to correct them. Your columns should have as much credibility. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
I think that this is a great idea and would be a great thing for the City. I went to see Tom Gilmore, UEZ, over two years ago regarding this issue as I suggested that the UEZ get Asbury Partners, the Chamber of Commerce/Merchants Guild, and the Board of Education together to champion, fund, get grants, and support this idea for a number of reasons. It would be a selling point for the waterfront area; it would be a selling point for the merchants, and it would afford the City school students the opportunity to get on the net without paying a monthly fee. I don't believe it went anywhere at that time. I would be interested in supporting the initiation of this concept again as I believe that the above reasons are still valid. Bob --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ocean City is a town that prides itself on tradition and old- fashioned charm. But that doesn't mean it can't keep up with the latest technology. The city is taking a lead among shore resorts, planning to have a Wi-Fi network up and running by January. That means the entire town would be a hot spot. Computer and cell phone users would have access to the Internet from anywhere. That puts the resort in the company of major cities like Seattle and Philadelphia, where Internet access is one more draw for potential residents and visitors. http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/opinion/editorials/story/7493520p- 7389240c.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
I completely support this idea! It would be great for the whole city, and an incredible selling point for people that are interested in moving here or doing business here. There is no downside for making AP a WIFI friendly city. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bob73121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that this is a great idea and would be a great thing for the City. I went to see Tom Gilmore, UEZ, over two years ago regarding this issue as I suggested that the UEZ get Asbury Partners, the Chamber of Commerce/Merchants Guild, and the Board of Education together to champion, fund, get grants, and support this idea for a number of reasons. It would be a selling point for the waterfront area; it would be a selling point for the merchants, and it would afford the City school students the opportunity to get on the net without paying a monthly fee. I don't believe it went anywhere at that time. I would be interested in supporting the initiation of this concept again as I believe that the above reasons are still valid. Bob --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John McMahon jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Ocean City is a town that prides itself on tradition and old- fashioned charm. But that doesn't mean it can't keep up with the latest technology. The city is taking a lead among shore resorts, planning to have a Wi-Fi network up and running by January. That means the entire town would be a hot spot. Computer and cell phone users would have access to the Internet from anywhere. That puts the resort in the company of major cities like Seattle and Philadelphia, where Internet access is one more draw for potential residents and visitors. http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/opinion/editorials/story/7493520p- 7389240c.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Todays reason why we need the surveillence system - Three rob Asbury Park ma
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three rob Asbury Park man Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 07/30/07 ASBURY PARK — Three young men stole an iPod from a 31-year-old city man as he walked in the area of Asbury Avenue and Bond Street, police said. My corner. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bob73121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that this is a great idea and would be a great thing for the City. I went to see Tom Gilmore, UEZ, over two years ago regarding this issue as I suggested that the UEZ get Asbury Partners, the Chamber of Commerce/Merchants Guild, and the Board of Education together to champion, fund, get grants, and support this idea for a number of reasons. It would be a selling point for the waterfront area; it would be a selling point for the merchants, and it would afford the City school students the opportunity to get on the net without paying a monthly fee. I don't believe it went anywhere at that time. I would be interested in supporting the initiation of this concept again as I believe that the above reasons are still valid. I suggested making the beachfront WIFi to Tom a while ago myself. I won;t make excuses but I assume they have many tings to do. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Todays reason why we need the surveillence system - Three rob Asbury Park ma
Be careful... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Three rob Asbury Park man Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 07/30/07 ASBURY PARK — Three young men stole an iPod from a 31-year-old city man as he walked in the area of Asbury Avenue and Bond Street, police said. My corner. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Todays reason why we need the surveillence system - Three rob Asbury Park ma
Let the negative comments begin. These were posted within an hour of the story appearing on the APP website. And let's not forget that these stories go out to many other newspapers outside of our area. PERHAPS A HIGHLY PUBLICIZED SURVEILLENCE SYSTEM MIGHT TURN PUBLIC OPINION AROUND Yeah, Asbury Park needs to keep thier crimes quiet like Long Branch, as not to interfere with condo sales. Posted by: my two cents worth on Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:54 pm All those thieves will think their shopping Macys. Let the games begin! Posted by: amusedtdth on Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:36 pm Things like this aren't going to play well with the affluent crowd that are going to buy all those condos on the beach. Posted by: Gill Bates on Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:24 pm --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Three rob Asbury Park man Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 07/30/07 ASBURY PARK — Three young men stole an iPod from a 31-year-old city man as he walked in the area of Asbury Avenue and Bond Street, police said. My corner. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
goog had seed money wiki. a good SEO *search engine optimizer * may get you ranked above or right below Wiki's. Also, ANY one with the proper name AND content can get ranked decently in the search engines. I know plenty of attorneys who reference rentlaw.com. That really is scary. But almost every AG (attorney general) across the country has contacted me and has provdided content. did you ever read all the studies about all the scholl books that are wrong Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My source was a letter to the NYT by a holocaust survivor, still living who was checked out. No, your source was someone trying to recollect 50 years back, to when they were 13, awakened at 1:00 am. T At what point did this person recollect the announcer saying Get up Maxie? After Max nearly took a knee against the ropes when the ref stepped in? After Joe knocked him down the 1st time? The 2nd time? The 3rd time? The legend has it that the radio was cut after a knockdown. Don't know which one. Could have been any of them, and the recollection you cite doesn't answer the question. That's called reliable info in Wiki world, not in the real world. Sounds like an insult to me. It was. By the way, since the same Wiki article also speaks to the power being cut, which should the reader believe, your part of the article or the other part of the article? Typical Wiki. Also, if I recall correctly, my column said something to the effect of legend has it about the radio broadcast being cut. Haven't you pretty much proved that I was telling the truth about that? You've found numerous sources, Wiki itself, citing the same thing. Lastly on this, which one of us is hijakcing the thread? You are bringing up this stuff from last year, not me. Maureen is right! You're here just to start cul de sac arguments. Maureen said that about me? I must have missed it, unless it wasn't here that she said it. Don't care anyway, since I don't know what that means. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: But almost every AG (attorney general) across the country has contacted me and has provdided content. did you ever read all the studies about all the scholl books that are wrong See also Excerpt from NYT magazine a few weeks ago: The tricky thing is, the process by which Wikipedia usually, eventually gets things right — the notion that mistakes in a given entry, whether intentional or unintentional, will ultimately be caught and repaired as a function of the project’s massive, egalitarian oversight — doesn’t seem as if it would work when people are looking for information about events unfolding in real time. How on earth can anyone be trusted to get the story right when any version of the story is only as accurate, or even as serious, as the last anonymous person to log on and rewrite it? Nothing is easier than taking shots at Wikipedia, and its many mistakes (most often instances of deliberate vandalism) are schadenfreude’s most renewable resource. But given the chaotic way in which it works, the truly remarkable thing about Wikipedia as a news site is that it works as well as it does. Full text: _Click here: Wikipedia - Computers and the Internet - Encyclopedias - News and News Media - New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/magazine/01WIKIPEDIA-t.html?ei=5070en=6eb7f669a27abd53ex=1185940800adxnnl=1pagewanted =alladxnnlx=1185824602-tCw1XliGq52hxJq16HB2ng) == Not even Camden has the desolute pictures that AP has: _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camden%2C_New_Jersey_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camden,_New_Jersey) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Laura Jewell has access to many great photos from her own camera,
the City and the developers.
Maybe we should contact her to fix the Wiki. It is her job anyway,
which will perhaps also get her past the Wiki editors when she
makes
the changes.
wasnt going to touch it unless someone else brought it up, well
tommy your the lawyer , you brought it up, laura jewell's cameras? as
much as we pay her is it her camera or the citys, is it her job or
will she ask for more money? i ask this because if anyone reads that
book she put out celebrating the citys 110 birthday, you can read it
if you like, she states everything connected with celebrate and
celebrate asbury park(including the pictures taken by HER camera) are
trademarks and service marks owned by jewell marketing ass. inc. so
let me figure this out, we ,being the taxpayers are paying for this ,
yet she gets any and all royalites, again only in america!! cant
wait for the apple festival or the winter carnival, just more
horseshit events for her to bang down big bucks. 110th birthaday
party, yeah i can name 30 other citys that celebrated such a gala
event, rolling on the floor werner not being sarcastic, what a rip
off chef didnt even show up, use this wasted money to buy the
cameras.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@
wrote:
The city can't ever maintain their own website. Visitors will
only find dead links for Special Events, Places of Interest, Beech
Cam, Downtown Cam and so much more. Poor source of information for
people interested in Asbury Park.
- Original Message
From: 2fine4u sharon_b283@
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:18:56 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
It's an almost decent assessment, but the photos, definitely
should be
replaced! No doubt! I think the Council, should place their own
comments, don't you? The piece doesn't do Asbury enough justice,
IMHO! I saw a jewel, no, the Pearl, I envision, when I talk about
AP!
I was impressed to no end, with all of the activity and beauty, I
surveyed. I am never one, to talk to strangers, and I found
myself,
talking to anyone, who would listen! People were smiling, enjoying
the ocean, the boards; everything. I was happy as all get out and
sorry, I hadn't taken advantage of the beautiful place, we call
home,
before! Yeah, yeah, I know, we aren't THERE, yet, but you have to
crawl, before you walk, as my dad, always said! There are REAL
possibilities here! Now, if we could just get those cameras! Me,
who
is a civil libertarian, stating this! I must be getting old!
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mario MarioAPNJ@ .. wrote:
Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
1. Just some observations I've made recently. Reuters reports
that
Wikipedia is now the top online news and information
destination,
according to Nielsen//NetRatings . Online encyclopedia
Wikipedia
has
added about 20 million unique monthly visitors in the past
year.
In May,
Wikipedia had 46.8 million unique visitors, up 72 percent from
June
2006, NetRatings said. Wikipedia also has finished on top of
the
news
and information category every month this year -- ranking ahead
of
Landmark Communications' Weather Channel site by an increasing
margin --
topping out with a disparity of about 10 million visitors in
May.
2. As I understand it, the rank of results at Google is based
on
what
sites users are visiting. Right now, a search for Asbury Park
will show Wikipedia ranked as number 3 or 4 out of approximately
2,000,000 hits.
3. Here is the main entry about our city: Click here: Asbury
Park, New
Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Asbury_Park% 2C_New_Jersey
Overall, not
fully representative of The Rising of Asbury Rising.
4. Here are the current comments at the talk page for that
entry at Wikipedia: Click here: Talk:Asbury Park, New Jersey -
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Talk:Asbury_ Park%2C_New_
Jersey
= = = = =
==
Talk: Asbury Park, New Jersey, From Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia
Negativity
Is it just me or do the photos in this suggest a lot of
negativity?
Crumbling, dilapidated, vacant these are all used in the
captions
of the photos and suggest the demise of the town. However, the
article
doesn't talk about a decline and, instead, focuses on
redevelopment.
What are the views on this? The photos seem to suggest one
point
of view
(that Asbury Park's a piece of crap [pardon the French]) and
the
article
suggests another (Asbury Park: Getting' better every day).
Thoughts? 12
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ocean City is a town that prides itself on tradition and old- fashioned charm. But that doesn't mean it can't keep up with the latest technology. The city is taking a lead among shore resorts, planning to have a Wi-Fi network up and running by January. That means the entire town would be a hot spot. Computer and cell phone users would have access to the Internet from anywhere. That puts the resort in the company of major cities like Seattle and Philadelphia, where Internet access is one more draw for potential residents and visitors. Asbury Park has been a Hot Spot for several years. I installed the WiFi system while working for Joe D'Andrea at West21. You can log in with a credit card virtually anywhere in proxility to the Downtown or BCH. Let me know how it works (or doesn't) as I'm still associated with the company that owns the network. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
Anne Frank was 13 when she started writing her diary. Want to question her letters? Both the cited letter I provided and the legend are included in the wiki entry on Max. It was amended based on new info. Unlike any of your mistakes: (Using the legend as analogous proof of a godless school board and judiciary which you ditto from the wingnut blogs. You've inadvertently transposed their misspellings which gave your sources away on more than one occasion.) Your responses today come before you could possibly have read any of the technology, business, magazine articles, or the video support I provided. They approximate primary sources far more than anything you've posted on this thread. Next time you fail to give sources for quotes in your columns, why not head the column with This article lacks citations as Wiki does? As far as your smears, they're not permitted at Wiki where disputed info, unlike your rants, is noted. Your responses are smarmy insults, mere assertions, and circular reasoning, par for the course. An updated more accurate and more positive entry with different or additional pictures at Wiki for AP was the purpose of the thread. No controversy was necessary. BTW: Maureen's comment was Tommy - You're playing games again. I misquoted. === You're playing games, again. The Past is Prologue. === In a message dated 7/30/2007 4:08:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My source was a letter to the NYT by a holocaust survivor, still living who was checked out. No, your source was someone trying to recollect 50 years back, to when they were 13, awakened at 1:00 am. T At what point did this person recollect the announcer saying Get up Maxie? After Max nearly took a knee against the ropes when the ref stepped in? After Joe knocked him down the 1st time? The 2nd time? The 3rd time? The legend has it that the radio was cut after a knockdown. Don't know which one. Could have been any of them, and the recollection you cite doesn't answer the question. That's called reliable info in Wiki world, not in the real world. Sounds like an insult to me. It was. By the way, since the same Wiki article also speaks to the power being cut, which should the reader believe, your part of the article or the other part of the article? Typical Wiki. Also, if I recall correctly, my column said something to the effect of legend has it about the radio broadcast being cut. Haven't you pretty much proved that I was telling the truth about that? You've found numerous sources, Wiki itself, citing the same thing. Lastly on this, which one of us is hijakcing the thread? You are bringing up this stuff from last year, not me. Maureen is right! You're here just to start cul de sac arguments. Maureen said that about me? I must have missed it, unless it wasn't here that she said it. Don't care anyway, since I don't know what that means. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wasnt going to touch it unless someone else brought it up, well tommy your the lawyer , you brought it up, laura jewell's cameras? as much as we pay her is it her camera or the citys, is it her job or will she ask for more money? i ask this because if anyone reads that book she put out celebrating the citys 110 birthday, you can read it if you like, she states everything connected with celebrate and celebrate asbury park(including the pictures taken by HER camera) are trademarks and service marks owned by jewell marketing ass. inc. so let me figure this out, we ,being the taxpayers are paying for this , yet she gets any and all royalites, again only in america!! Well while we're at it, whose decision was it to put in a picture of Loffredo with the realtor sign? Did taxpayers pay to promote big john's re business? No hard feelings jb, only need to know. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
I am so glad to see the huge response! Taking my niece, down to the boards, tomorrow or Wednesday; whichever day she decides to come down! In any event, just who is supposed to maintain the City's website? Is it a paid position? I used to get an email once a week, but haven't received any in a while, until the July 4th weekend, then nothing again! I really hated the picture of the old Howard Johnsons, with the peeling paint, inside the eaves. I was crushed, because like the Asbury Park De-Pressed, we're always given a less than stellar image! Thanks to all who have contributed. Now if $850K can be spent on a water park, which I think was over priced, why can't the City sink $150K, to start installing some surveillance cameras? Are we asking for too much? I am against Big Brother, but in common areas? C'mon! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laura Jewell has access to many great photos from her own camera, the City and the developers. Maybe we should contact her to fix the Wiki. It is her job anyway, which will perhaps also get her past the Wiki editors when she makes the changes. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: The city can't ever maintain their own website. Visitors will only find dead links for Special Events, Places of Interest, Beech Cam, Downtown Cam and so much more. Poor source of information for people interested in Asbury Park. - Original Message From: 2fine4u sharon_b283@ To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:18:56 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia It's an almost decent assessment, but the photos, definitely should be replaced! No doubt! I think the Council, should place their own comments, don't you? _ ___ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're playing games, again. The Past is Prologue. Whereof what's past is prologue, what to come In yours and my discharge Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The soundtrack to every summer Sunday night - Paradise
You're a fruit-cake, you know that? I know you're only pulling his leg, so everybody, lighten up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Yikes. I don't know if I can take much more. Every Sunday night, Paradise has an outdoor party with a very loud DJ who plays the same terrible disco hits, Barbara Streisand and other assorted music over and over again. === Oh stop complaining, Things have never been better in the last decade. Everything is rosey and running like clockwork. The music is festive and shows activity, sounds good to me. It's complainers likeyou holding Asbury Park back. LOL, ROTFL, Werner (the opinions expressed are not those of this author) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Frank was 13 when she started writing her diary. Want to question her letters? Ann Frank's diary was written at the time of the events. You're 13 year old was remembering something 50 years old. Yes, I know this was about the Asbury Wike site. So why did you bring up our argument from last year about Max? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wasnt going to touch it unless someone else brought it up, well tommy your the lawyer , you brought it up, laura jewell's cameras? as much as we pay her is it her camera or the citys, is it her job or will she ask for more money? I didn't know this was going to be an issue. When I said Her camera I was not giving an opinion on who owns what. I wasn't even thinking of that. All I meant was she takes pictures, and she is probably in possession of them, regardless of ownership. My main point was that since she has a title with the City, they might accept her changes. You see, when she makes the changes, it is likely that her changes will be immediately deleted. Then she will be contacted by the 10th grader in charge, demanding to know her credibility on the issue. The 10th grader will consult with his 9th grade assistant, and together they will decide if Laura's version of Asbury Park is acceptable to their view of reality. They will accept the assignment in study hall, and hopefully make a decision on behalf of Wiki before their Moms make them go to bed. Certain persons on this Group will accept their decision as truth no matter what it is. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
This WiFi should not require a credit card. It should be FREE for all within the City limits. This will make it unique and be a service for the community. All the previously referenced participants: merchants; Asbury Partners/Madison Marquette - Madison_Asbury Retail LLC, UEZ, and the Board of Education should pay for the complete operation of the WiFi. Bob Asbury Park has been a Hot Spot for several years. I installed the WiFi system while working for Joe D'Andrea at West21. You can log in with a credit card virtually anywhere in proxility to the Downtown or BCH. Let me know how it works (or doesn't) as I'm still associated with the company that owns the network. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Asbury Wiki Edits Underway!
Looks like a fellow named AsburyChris (Chris Abate) is updating the photos today. Helen Pike has updated some of the text today. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
i believe the idea in these other cities and towns is that it's free On Jul 30, 2007, at 5:59 PM, bob73121 wrote: This WiFi should not require a credit card. It should be FREE for all within the City limits. This will make it unique and be a service for the community. All the previously referenced participants: merchants; Asbury Partners/Madison Marquette - Madison_Asbury Retail LLC, UEZ, and the Board of Education should pay for the complete operation of the WiFi. Bob Asbury Park has been a Hot Spot for several years. I installed the WiFi system while working for Joe D'Andrea at West21. You can log in with a credit card virtually anywhere in proxility to the Downtown or BCH. Let me know how it works (or doesn't) as I'm still associated with the company that owns the network. Werner
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
Absolutely. Adding a price to a community based WiFi pretty much destroys the concept. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i believe the idea in these other cities and towns is that it's free On Jul 30, 2007, at 5:59 PM, bob73121 wrote: This WiFi should not require a credit card. It should be FREE for all within the City limits. This will make it unique and be a service for the community. All the previously referenced participants: merchants; Asbury Partners/Madison Marquette - Madison_Asbury Retail LLC, UEZ, and the Board of Education should pay for the complete operation of the WiFi. Bob === = Asbury Park has been a Hot Spot for several years. I installed the WiFi system while working for Joe D'Andrea at West21. You can log in with a credit card virtually anywhere in proxility to the Downtown or BCH. Let me know how it works (or doesn't) as I'm still associated with the company that owns the network. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Wikipedia Wipes Out Gays In Asbury Park!
The Asbury Park Wikipedia entry used to have a sub-heading in bold letters called Gay Asbury Park. Below that heading was several large paragraphs about the history and present of the Gay community here, and their contributions to the City. That has been erased, and the Gay and Lesbian community is given about 1 sentence buried in another section. WELL I GUESS IF THE HIGH SCHOOL EDITORS WHO RUN WIKIPEDIA SAY THE GAY AND LESBIAN COMMUNITY IN ASBURY PARK ISN'T HERE, THEN THEY JUST AREN'T HERE! Wiki a reliable source? Hah! An abomination to legitimate research is more like it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bob73121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This WiFi should not require a credit card. It should be FREE for all within the City limits. This will make it unique and be a service for the community. All the previously referenced participants: merchants; Asbury Partners/Madison Marquette - Madison_Asbury Retail LLC, UEZ, and the Board of Education should pay for the complete operation of the WiFi. Bob Radio waves do not respect City limits. Someone has to pay for the network. It is currently privately owned. If it were subsidized by the means suggested, perhaps login/password info could be given upon request to city residents ? Or the organizations could purchase it, or set up their own network. A completely free system is very idealistic. Any examples of one? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Radio waves do not respect City limits. Someone has to pay for the network. It is currently privately owned. If it were subsidized by the means suggested, perhaps login/password info could be given upon request to city residents ? Or the organizations could purchase it, or set up their own network. A completely free system is very idealistic. Any examples of one? Werner The Buffalo area has one. I think it is free http://www.buffalowifi.org/ There is free wi-fi in Bryant Park in Manhattan http://www.bryantpark.org/amenities/wireless.php I could go on. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Free Wi-Fi dangers
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[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
Mountain View California has free Wi-Fi. Provided by Google. Amy Handlin (then Freeholder, now Assemblywoman) came to AP a few years back with a plan to make all of downtown AP a free hotspot as a way to attract business. Don't know what ever happened to the plan. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ Radio waves do not respect City limits. Someone has to pay for the network. It is currently privately owned. If it were subsidized by the means suggested, perhaps login/password info could be given upon request to city residents ? Or the organizations could purchase it, or set up their own network. A completely free system is very idealistic. Any examples of one? Werner The Buffalo area has one. I think it is free http://www.buffalowifi.org/ There is free wi-fi in Bryant Park in Manhattan http://www.bryantpark.org/amenities/wireless.php I could go on. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
Austin Texas has free WiFi --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mountain View California has free Wi-Fi. Provided by Google. Amy Handlin (then Freeholder, now Assemblywoman) came to AP a few years back with a plan to make all of downtown AP a free hotspot as a way to attract business. Don't know what ever happened to the plan. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ Radio waves do not respect City limits. Someone has to pay for the network. It is currently privately owned. If it were subsidized by the means suggested, perhaps login/password info could be given upon request to city residents ? Or the organizations could purchase it, or set up their own network. A completely free system is very idealistic. Any examples of one? Werner The Buffalo area has one. I think it is free http://www.buffalowifi.org/ There is free wi-fi in Bryant Park in Manhattan http://www.bryantpark.org/amenities/wireless.php I could go on. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Austin Texas has free WiFi Regarding Austin: To help stimulate business, the city seized on the opportunity to host the World Congress on Information Technology (WCIT), a high- profile symposium held every two years in different locations around the globe. Austin business leaders and city officials felt that the May 2006 event would showcase Austin as a technology hub and encourage economic growth Wow just think, Asbury Park has Convention, Hotel, Dining,...facilities Opps, I just remembered.. The plan is centered on 3000+ condos. Too bad.. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
I think one of the problems with a citywide WiFi system is that the service provider, probably Cablevision, wouldn't want to compete with itself by giving away something for free in a city where it's got many subscribers. It would probably be best used in non-residential areas i.e Convention, Hotel, Dining,...facilities and the beach, the Cookman sidewalk cafe zone etc. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Austin Texas has free WiFi === = Regarding Austin: To help stimulate business, the city seized on the opportunity to host the World Congress on Information Technology (WCIT), a high- profile symposium held every two years in different locations around the globe. Austin business leaders and city officials felt that the May 2006 event would showcase Austin as a technology hub and encourage economic growth Wow just think, Asbury Park has Convention, Hotel, Dining,...facilities Opps, I just remembered.. The plan is centered on 3000+ condos. Too bad.. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
In a message dated 7/30/2007 5:40:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Frank was 13 when she started writing her diary. Want to question her letters? Ann Frank's diary was written at the time of the events. You're 13 year old was remembering something 50 years old. I suppose you'll dismiss Ken Burn's new documentary War due on TV this fall. PBS is a actively recruiting WWII veterans to videotape their memories from over 50 years ago. Also, there was never a follow up letter i the Times challenging the holocaust survivor's assertion. A red herring. Yes, I know this was about the Asbury Wike site. So why did you bring up our argument from last year about Max? The argument wasn't about Max; your column was yet another culture war piece in which you used paper thin evidence to reiterate the silly See what liberals do! See, See! I referred to Max because it was my experience in using my account to edit that article. I was impressed with the scrutiny my suggestion received, but you implied that Wiki is full of mistakes by kids; i.e., there is no accountability at that site. Where was the accountability when you misplaced a statement, by about 14 years, then put quotation marks around a paraphrase to charge cut and run blah, blah, blah. I guess you have to stick to your guns and never ever admit to a mistake like a certain chief executive. Your major assault on one of our councilmen included making a fuss over his use of Wiki to support your Columbus Day tantrum. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think one of the problems with a citywide WiFi system is that the service provider, probably Cablevision, wouldn't want to compete with itself by giving away something for === A large and incorrect assumption. Cable is only A service provider not THE service provider. Anyone/any-entity can purchase direct internet access from high bandwidth servers directly. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
Anyone have a wifi enabled device? Laptop or handheld? I'm interested if the City network is accessible. Anyone want to give it a try, you will receive a page stateing you have connected to the Nearyou Networks HotSpot. Downtown area or around the BCH. Please let me know, thanks. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
Ok Mr. Cranky. You are correct on this one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I think one of the problems with a citywide WiFi system is that the service provider, probably Cablevision, wouldn't want to compete with itself by giving away something for = == A large and incorrect assumption. Cable is only A service provider not THE service provider. Anyone/any-entity can purchase direct internet access from high bandwidth servers directly. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
In a message dated 7/30/2007 5:52:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You see, when she makes the changes, it is likely that her changes will be immediately deleted. Then she will be contacted by the 10th grader in charge, demanding to know her credibility on the issue. The 10th grader will consult with his 9th grade assistant, and together they will decide if Laura's version of Asbury Park is acceptable to their view of reality. They will accept the assignment in study hall, and hopefully make a decision on behalf of Wiki before their Moms make them go to bed TD continues to invent his own reality. And not bother to read sources other post here. And he continues to use ridicule as an argument rather than keep up to date on the reality of the process. Many other web sites, like the movie database _http://www.imdb.com/_ (http://www.imdb.com/) have in place options for users to add content and comment, and ways to report abuse or needed corrections. Only TD's databases are beyond being corrected. From _Click here: Wikipedia:Replies to common objections - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections) Replies to Common Objections. Contents [_hide_ (javascript:toggleToc()) ] * _1 Letting arbitrary Internet users edit any article at will is absurd_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Letting_arbitrary_Internet_users_edit_any_article_at_will_is_absurd) * _1.1 My prose_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_t o_common_objections#My_prose) * _1.2 Cranks_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Cranks) * _1.3 Trolls and flamers_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Trolls_and_flamers) * _1.4 Amateurs_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Amateurs) * _1.5 Partisans_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Partisans) * _1.6 Advertisers_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Advertisers) * _1.7 Bots_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Bots) * _1.8 Systemic bias_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Systemic_bias) * _1.9 Deletion and changes_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Deletion_and_changes) * _2 Wikipedia can never be high quality_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Wikipedia_can_never_be_high_quality) * _2.1 Under construction_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Under_construction) * _2.2 Shortage of intellectuals_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Shortage_of_intellectuals) * _2.3 Motives of intellectuals_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Motives_of_intellectuals) * _2.4 Errors and omissions_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Errors_and_omissions) * _2.5 Stubs are stupid_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Stubs_are_stupid) * _2.6 Standards_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Standards) * _2.7 Selectivity_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Selectivity) * _2.8 Mixing ignorance and knowledge_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Mixing_ignorance_and_knowledge) * _2.9 Attribution and references_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Attribution_and_references) * _2.10 Accepting edits_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Accepting_edits) * _2.11 Trustworthiness_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Trustworthiness) * _2.12 Quality of other sources_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Quality_of_other_sources) * _3 Scalability_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Scalability) * _3.1 Quantity and quality_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Quantity_and_quality) * _3.2 Rate of growth_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Rate_of_growth) * _3.3 Success breeds failure_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Success_breeds_failure) * _3.4 Slowness_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Slowness) * _4 Miscellaneous concerns_
Re: [AsburyPark] Wikipedia Wipes Out Gays In Asbury Park!
The section about Gay AP was written 3-4 years ago by someone who over emphasized the gay nightlife at the expense of AP's other music scenes and diversity. Later on a whole section was added about the historic case of One Eleven Wines and Liquors, Inc. v. NJ's ABC. At the time, Wiki was not the number one site (according to last week's NYT) it is today. Those of us who noticed the editing didn't think it important enough to bother with especially after a link was added for _http://www.gayasburypark.com/_ (http://www.gayasburypark.com/) . My point in starting this thread yesterday was that, given the resource that it is for many people now--2007--, the entry deserves more attention. I didn't notice any factual errors, so I guess it's reliable in that sense. But the pictures are outdated All that overstatement below, and the CAPS, make me wonder Is this a high school student posting for TD and hijacking the threads intent? All heat and no light. Peevish too.. === In a message dated 7/30/2007 6:27:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Asbury Park Wikipedia entry used to have a sub-heading in bold letters called Gay Asbury Park. Below that heading was [sic] several large paragraphs about the history and present of the Gay community here, and their contributions to the City. That has been erased, and the Gay and Lesbian community is given about 1 sentence buried in another section. WELL I GUESS IF THE HIGH SCHOOL EDITORS WHO RUN WIKIPEDIA SAY THE GAY AND LESBIAN COMMUNITY IN ASBURY PARK ISN'T HERE, THEN THEY JUST AREN'T HERE! Wiki a reliable source? Hah! An abomination to legitimate research is more like it. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns621/ networking_solutions_customer_profile0900aecd80330dd8.html http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/04/1733258from=rss http://www.freepress.net/news/22830 http://www.americanwifiinc.com/ http://news.com.com/New+Orleans+to+offer+free+Wi-Fi/ 2100-7351_3-5975845.html http://news.com.com/London+gets+free+Wi-Fi/2100-7351_3-6196772.html On Jul 30, 2007, at 6:36 PM, wernerapnj wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bob73121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This WiFi should not require a credit card. It should be FREE for all within the City limits. This will make it unique and be a service for the community. All the previously referenced participants: merchants; Asbury Partners/Madison Marquette - Madison_Asbury Retail LLC, UEZ, and the Board of Education should pay for the complete operation of the WiFi. Bob Radio waves do not respect City limits. Someone has to pay for the network. It is currently privately owned. If it were subsidized by the means suggested, perhaps login/password info could be given upon request to city residents ? Or the organizations could purchase it, or set up their own network. A completely free system is very idealistic. Any examples of one? Werner
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
Mario I'm not sure why we ended up arguing over this. I said in the beginning of the thread that I thought you were right. I believe the Wiki AP section needs to be updated. Again, I said you were right about that. Not sure what more I can do than say you are right about something. I added also that I don't like Wiki as a reliable source. That certainly isn't a knock against you personally. I just don't trust the website. I understand that you do trust it more than I do. I don't know why that disagreement requires you and I to go back and forth at eachother like we did. For some reason, we fell into it. I hope we can end this where we agree - updating the AP Wiki page is necessary, and appears to be underway. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
-looks like much of the AP entry has been updated. there goes my night. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Update BCH
I just checked hotels.com and they are showing availability for rooms this coming weekend at BCH for $679.00 per night.strange. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have made a contact with Chetrit and he is expecting my call. I will get to it in a few days. I am preparing for a trial right now. I will verify what I heard from him through a friend that he will break ground or really start in earnest soon. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
---goog wants to introduce wi-fi in select cities for free. U should be able to get tmobile or ATT to provide their services - pay as you go or sbscription. Then there is also verizon, sprint etc for your laptop (cards) for around 49 month or your cell phone with net access could double as a modem if hacked. But I'm for free service. America's cup has access and there are a few other hot spots - like unsecured networks around ap. If you have a cell phone or lap with built in wireless, just turn it on drive slow. You should be able to pick up a signal at least around cookman ave. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
I made my own addition. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -looks like much of the AP entry has been updated. there goes my night. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
