[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
The city does a great job of keeping the park clean. And the city has quiet a fewother problem areas that need police attention. The park is ignored by the general public for some very simple reasons. First off, there's nor a single park bench there. Secondly, because it's so unused by the general public, the street people who spend time in it scare people away. And that's exactly why the dog loving community will bring new life to the park. An empty park invites trouble. Now, the park will have a reason to attract people. More people will make the park less attractive for misuse. I'm sorry, but your organization is completely out of touch with the reality of dog parks, and their benefits. If you are going to have a negative opinion about something you obviously know nothing about, then I suggest you do some research and educate yourselves. Like I said, you should go and visit the dog park in Oceanport. It's big, beautiful, and clean, and it attracts a wonderful community of people. Library Square Park, as it stands today attracts nobody. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman byline4336@... wrote: Have you stopped and asked yourself WHY the sprinkler system hasn't worked in years, WHY the fountain is broken and has been used as an open air bathroom and garbage receptacle, WHY drugs are freely bought and sold in and around the park? Could the answer possibly be that the city, i.e.. the maintenance department and police department, have not cleaned/patrolled the park? Given the past history of the park and the lack of care to maintain and keep the vagrants and drug dealers out of there, what makes you think that the dogs will make a difference in how the city maintains the park? The problems that exist in the park will not be solved by the dogs! On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Hinge wrote: The sprinkler system that your organization installed hasn't worked in years. The dog park is exactly what is needed, because it's main use for the past 7 years that I've lived adjacent to it is a place where drugs are bought and sold, street people use it as a open air bathroom, and the fountain is broken and used as a garbage receptacle. The dog park will breath life into Liberty Square Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman byline4336@ wrote: As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside for the dog's socialization as she called it. The park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the dog area progressed and invited us to appoint members of the historical society to the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I volunteered to serve on that committee, but as of today, we have not heard a word from the committee. Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have have been approved by the council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park City Council, for including the Historical Society in the decision making process!! Even though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from oblivion, you have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes! Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park Historical Society [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr
[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
The sprinkler system that your organization installed hasn't worked in years. The dog park is exactly what is needed, because it's main use for the past 7 years that I've lived adjacent to it is a place where drugs are bought and sold, street people use it as a open air bathroom, and the fountain is broken and used as a garbage receptical. The dog park will breath life into Liberty Square Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman byline4336@... wrote: As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside for the dog's socialization as she called it. The park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the dog area progressed and invited us to appoint members of the historical society to the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I volunteered to serve on that committee, but as of today, we have not heard a word from the committee. Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have have been approved by the council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park City Council, for including the Historical Society in the decision making process!! Even though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from oblivion, you have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes! Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park Historical Society Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
Also, dogs aren't permitted at the beach area from May until Sept. We dog owners will do our own cleaning up, exactly the way it's done at The Wolf Hill dog park in Oceanport. Your organization should take a field trip there to see how clean and beautiful it is. It would probably change your mind completely. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: You mad? Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatkins@... -Original Message- From: Robert Thoman byline4336@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:21:47 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Cc: Dolly Sterneskydsternesky@...; Teddy ChomkoChomkoT@...; TROPRJ@... TroppoliTROPRJ@...; jimhenry100@... HenryJimHenry100@...; Antic Haysales@...; cmorrissette@... Morrissettecmorrissette@...; davidsobotka@... Sobotkadavidsobotka@... Subject: [AsburyPark] Dog Park As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside for the dog's socialization as she called it. The park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the dog area progressed and invited us to appoint members of the historical society to the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I volunteered to serve on that committee, but as of today, we have not heard a word from the committee. Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have have been approved by the council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park City Council, for including the Historical Society in the decision making process!! Even though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from oblivion, you have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes! Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park Historical Society [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Fitness going out of business due to paid parking
Excuse me, but this was not a rumor. I heard the actual conversation, which was later confirmed by one of my coworkers who happens to go to that gym, and lives directly across the street from it. I stated a fact. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@... wrote: Just like political candidates who have stated facts to only turn around and disavow their accuracy because it was just something they heard I think you have to be careful blaming something without the facts behind it. I actually think paid parking will help merchants by making it easier to get parking. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I don't go there. I'm just reporting what I heard this morning. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Jack, not sure if you go to Asbury Fitness or not, but I can tell you w/o a doubt that paid parking is not what's driving them out of business I have never seen more than 4 clients in there at one time. My fiance has been going for 4yrs, me for 2yrs Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:01:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Fitness going out of business due to paid parking I just heard that Asbury Fitness is packing it in due to complaints from patrons about the added cost of paid parking. Customers are cancelling and taking their business elsewhere. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: parking - someone that gets it...
I overhead the conversation between the owner of the gym and Pat. I also work with Pat's girlfriend. There's 2 sides to every story. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: And also from app Patrick Schiavino, who lives above his art gallery in the building he owns in the 600 block of Cookman Avenue, said that safety is a priority for him and his girlfriend. He said he previously parked right in front of his building. (me) Maybe he should have built a garage or bought a lot when he converted buildings. And Kelly Erving, a personal trainer at Club Asbury gym above Leo Clark's Fitness Lifestyles store in the same 600 block, said safety is a concern to her as well. But the upside is people coming to Asbury Park are pulling up and getting a space right out front, she said. (me) Hinge here is someone from the gym saying its a good thing! Clark, who bought the former Newberry's over a decade ago, has a sign out front that he will take the cost of parking off any sale he makes. It's good that there are spots out there for patrons, he said. I was one of the worst offenders. I parked in front of my own store. He said perhaps the hours could be cut back, that charging from 9 a.m. to midnight seven days a week is a little much. And he's not sure if downtown Asbury Park is ready for paid parking yet. Marianne Schell, a real estate agent with the John C. Conover Agency, thinks the city is ready. It leaves parking space for customers, she said. I think people would rather pay a dollar to park and not have to drive around. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Asbury Fitness going out of business due to paid parking
I just heard that Asbury Fitness is packing it in due to complaints from patrons about the added cost of paid parking. Customers are cancelling and taking their business elsewhere. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Fitness going out of business due to paid parking
Not sure, but it's being stated that faithful customers who use the facility 3 to 4 times a week are not happy with having to pay an additional $40 a month or so on top of the fee they are already paying, and that there's plenty of places they can go where this isn't an issue. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote: Seems to me they were probably on the edge already if something like this is putting them out of business On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: ** I just heard that Asbury Fitness is packing it in due to complaints from patrons about the added cost of paid parking. Customers are cancelling and taking their business elsewhere. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Fitness going out of business due to paid parking
I don't go there. I'm just reporting what I heard this morning. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Jack, not sure if you go to Asbury Fitness or not, but I can tell you w/o a doubt that paid parking is not what's driving them out of business I have never seen more than 4 clients in there at one time. My fiance has been going for 4yrs, me for 2yrs Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:01:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Fitness going out of business due to paid parking I just heard that Asbury Fitness is packing it in due to complaints from patrons about the added cost of paid parking. Customers are cancelling and taking their business elsewhere. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Fitness going out of business due to paid parking
If anything, maybe the parking issue is compounding a pre-existing issue. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Jack, not sure if you go to Asbury Fitness or not, but I can tell you w/o a doubt that paid parking is not what's driving them out of business I have never seen more than 4 clients in there at one time. My fiance has been going for 4yrs, me for 2yrs Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:01:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Fitness going out of business due to paid parking I just heard that Asbury Fitness is packing it in due to complaints from patrons about the added cost of paid parking. Customers are cancelling and taking their business elsewhere. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Fitness going out of business due to paid parking
I've just started looking at it as a work in progress, but I can honestly say that as far as daytime is concerned, I've heard nothing but claims that the paid parking is hurting rather than helping. At least one business I know of who has seen a sharp downturn in their business announced on Facebook today that they would pay for their customers parking. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I have actually been able to increase my time there during the week, now that I can find parking. A good business person can find ways to ease the pain of change on their customers, vouchers would have been perfect in this scenario But like I said, there were not many people in there BEFORE the parking issue Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:01:24 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Fitness going out of business due to paid parking If anything, maybe the parking issue is compounding a pre-existing issue. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Jack, not sure if you go to Asbury Fitness or not, but I can tell you w/o a doubt that paid parking is not what's driving them out of business I have never seen more than 4 clients in there at one time. My fiance has been going for 4yrs, me for 2yrs Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:01:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Fitness going out of business due to paid parking I just heard that Asbury Fitness is packing it in due to complaints from patrons about the added cost of paid parking. Customers are cancelling and taking their business elsewhere. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Two city teens reported missing
ASBURY PARK Police are seeking the public's help to locate two city teenagers who are missing. Capt. Anthony Salerno said that Evelyn Riano, 16, of the 500 block of Fifth Avenue, was reported missing by her mother at 10:20 p.m. Sunday night. Maria Riano, the mother, said that her daughter did not return from work at Super Discounts, 700 Main St., where she is a retail clerk. She had left work around 7 p.m., Sunday police said. Evelyn Riano had sent a text to her boyfriend that day, breaking off their relationship, Salerno said. She is a student at St. Rose High School, Belmar. Police have been searching all the places Evelyn Riano was known to frequent, including with family and friends, Salerno said. At 8 p.m. Monday, the boyfriend, Edwin Aparicio, 18, of the 800 block of Main Street, was reported missing by his mother, Teresita Aparicio, Salerno said. She said her son was distraught because he found out his girlfriend was missing. He said he wanted to take a walk and clear his head but did not return home. He works at two restaurants in Bradley Beach, Vic's and Fins, police said. Evelyn Riano was last seen wearing a gray hooded Aeropostale sweatshirt, blue jeans and black sneakers, Salerno said. Edwin Aparicio was wearing a black work T-shirt with Vic's logo on it, a brown hooded sweatshirt, black jeans and white sneakers. The families have had no further communication with either teen. Information has been entered into the National Crime Information Center database, Salerno said. Police released a photo of Evelyn Riano but did not yet have one of Aparicio, Salerno said. Anyone with information is asked to call Asbury Park Detective John Sosdian at 732-775-1996 or the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office at 1-800-533-7443. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:
Thanks man. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: One of the more sensible things said today Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:38:11 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: It's no wonder people are getting passionate about this issue. For example, I work on Bond street. The metered zone on this street is non-residential, all business. The 2 restaurants are only open in the evening. I had a choice, pay $8 to go to work, or park a few blocks away. Fortunately, they aren't enforcing yet, so I parked out front on an empty street. Mattison? It's an empty street. There is no demand for parking there on a weekday during working hours, and that's exactly what you see. Meanwhile, we employees are now being asked to either pay, or walk a few blocks in the rain. As for the tension here today, it could have been avoided if a poster didn't belittle people because they don't want to pay extra for the coffee at a venue they've been faithful to. Maybe the little bucks don't matter to some people, but it's not exactly fair to imprint your own economic situation on other people and belittle them here. It does absolutely no good. That's what I think started the bad vibe here today, and it could have easily been avoided. Perhaps the city over thought the enforcement zone and should have considered limiting it to Cookman. That would've been a good compromise that made more people happy. We are no longer living in times when people are willing to be nickled and dimed to death over everything. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: no one's having a fit. no one's accusing you of anything. it's a point. people take parking spaces is one issue business owners have to contend with. The others are having customers and paying rent, salaries supplies along with having an in product - and competition from those with cheaper prices larger spaces. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@ wrote: as he's my husband and sitting across from me i'm pretty sure it's not addressing me :-) it does get a little heated in here at times - i guess everyone is passionate with their thoughts and the plot gets lost On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: ** Who are you addressing? Why is everyone being such an ass to one another, its like children in here Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sandro Mascarenhas sanxoxo@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:06:54 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: ...and you must be one of those who ASSume no wonder no one takes you seriously here. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2003
Meanwhile, several of the business's that lobbied for paid parking are stating that business has gone downhill since it went into effect. There's also unhappy people north of the parking zone in the residential neighborhoods. Scores of employee's who are not willing to pay to park are now parking in those areas. It really gets bad when the school in that neighborhood gets out. There used to be open parking for people to stop and wait for their kids, now it's become a log jam that did not exist before. Also, there were 3 break in's this past week, 2 on Mattison and 1 on Cookman. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote: I'm with you, I avoided too - now i don't avoid, i think it's great that i can find parking. If you talk to some of the retailers they're happy about the parking situation and it has increased business for them. There are always going to be complainers, it's human nature, if it wasn't parking they'd be complaining about the roadworks, or the weather or the something else, something else. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:32 AM, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@...wrote: ** I came in 2004, America's Cup was not here until much later. In 2004, there was Harry's Roadhouse, Rock Paper Scissors, Be Green and Janet's boutique on Cookman, with a few other things. When did America's Cup open? 2008? When I first moved here, I just parked on Lake bc there was always parking over there at that time. Quite honestly, I kind of avoided Cookman BC of the parking situation in more recent years. I could never find a spot and I find that annoying if I just want to run in somewhere for something quick. So, I think it really cuts both ways. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Where were these patrons (that are suddenly gone from the downtown) parking before the meters went into effect? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dennis Dubrow traderdube@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:42:37 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] 2003 Asbury is a ghost town, I spoke to a number of Cookman retailers, business is down since the meters went into effect. It reminds me of 8 years ago when we bulls some stores and rented them, then America's cup opened and we sat there waiting for a customer to come in...and waited and waited and waited. The merchants that are still there, and almost all the current merchants are hard working business people, not weekend warriors looking for a tax write off by opening a store...and then never opening. The high taxes, the extraordinary cost of opening a business in AP, and now the parking meters that don't even work are a detriment to downtown Asbury in a huge way. Occupay AP should be railing against this travesty of a money grab by the powers that be in city hall. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2003
Yesterday morning, I stopped at America's Cup for a bagel. Totally dead compared to before parking went into effect. I overheard a conversation with the owner saying that business is down big time. Same thing with Russo Music. They are saying that they had the worst week of business since they opened. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: Meanwhile, several of the business's that lobbied for paid parking are stating that business has gone downhill since it went into effect. There's also unhappy people north of the parking zone in the residential neighborhoods. Scores of employee's who are not willing to pay to park are now parking in those areas. It really gets bad when the school in that neighborhood gets out. There used to be open parking for people to stop and wait for their kids, now it's become a log jam that did not exist before. Also, there were 3 break in's this past week, 2 on Mattison and 1 on Cookman. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@ wrote: I'm with you, I avoided too - now i don't avoid, i think it's great that i can find parking. If you talk to some of the retailers they're happy about the parking situation and it has increased business for them. There are always going to be complainers, it's human nature, if it wasn't parking they'd be complaining about the roadworks, or the weather or the something else, something else. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:32 AM, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@wrote: ** I came in 2004, America's Cup was not here until much later. In 2004, there was Harry's Roadhouse, Rock Paper Scissors, Be Green and Janet's boutique on Cookman, with a few other things. When did America's Cup open? 2008? When I first moved here, I just parked on Lake bc there was always parking over there at that time. Quite honestly, I kind of avoided Cookman BC of the parking situation in more recent years. I could never find a spot and I find that annoying if I just want to run in somewhere for something quick. So, I think it really cuts both ways. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Where were these patrons (that are suddenly gone from the downtown) parking before the meters went into effect? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dennis Dubrow traderdube@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:42:37 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] 2003 Asbury is a ghost town, I spoke to a number of Cookman retailers, business is down since the meters went into effect. It reminds me of 8 years ago when we bulls some stores and rented them, then America's cup opened and we sat there waiting for a customer to come in...and waited and waited and waited. The merchants that are still there, and almost all the current merchants are hard working business people, not weekend warriors looking for a tax write off by opening a store...and then never opening. The high taxes, the extraordinary cost of opening a business in AP, and now the parking meters that don't even work are a detriment to downtown Asbury in a huge way. Occupay AP should be railing against this travesty of a money grab by the powers that be in city hall. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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The bottom line in my opinion is people coming to the downtown area to eat are happy to find open parking spaces, but the reality is that during working hours, downtown has become a ghosttown, and tons of people aren't happy about it. The city has basically said screw you to employees and residents. Same thing that happened in my neighborhood. I think the America's Cup guy is reluctant to admit that his own push for paid parking has had a detrimental effect on his business. I work on Bond Street. Every employee at my company refused to buy a parking pass. In this economy, adding what amounts to another tax on your income simply isn't a good idea. Not only that, but I believe that if you buy the employee parking pass, you still have to park blocks away from where you work. Correct me if I'm wrong about that one. Then, if you get somebody like me, who now has to pay to park in front of his home and works downtown, you are screwed. How is this helping residents and employees? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote: Take the conversation further with the Americas Cup owner though, my husband and i spoke to him last saturday for a while about parking and at that point he was very happy with the paid parking, even if business is down he sees it as a huge benefit in the long term, plus you can't gauge business being down, there are now 3 coffee shops downtown (if you include the gelato place), maybe that's why business is down, we don't drink enough coffee to support 3 coffee shops. maybe now there's parking people will come from neighbouring towns for coffee. there are way too many variables at play to blame it one just one thing. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: ** Yesterday morning, I stopped at America's Cup for a bagel. Totally dead compared to before parking went into effect. I overheard a conversation with the owner saying that business is down big time. Same thing with Russo Music. They are saying that they had the worst week of business since they opened. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Meanwhile, several of the business's that lobbied for paid parking are stating that business has gone downhill since it went into effect. There's also unhappy people north of the parking zone in the residential neighborhoods. Scores of employee's who are not willing to pay to park are now parking in those areas. It really gets bad when the school in that neighborhood gets out. There used to be open parking for people to stop and wait for their kids, now it's become a log jam that did not exist before. Also, there were 3 break in's this past week, 2 on Mattison and 1 on Cookman. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@ wrote: I'm with you, I avoided too - now i don't avoid, i think it's great that i can find parking. If you talk to some of the retailers they're happy about the parking situation and it has increased business for them. There are always going to be complainers, it's human nature, if it wasn't parking they'd be complaining about the roadworks, or the weather or the something else, something else. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:32 AM, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@wrote: ** I came in 2004, America's Cup was not here until much later. In 2004, there was Harry's Roadhouse, Rock Paper Scissors, Be Green and Janet's boutique on Cookman, with a few other things. When did America's Cup open? 2008? When I first moved here, I just parked on Lake bc there was always parking over there at that time. Quite honestly, I kind of avoided Cookman BC of the parking situation in more recent years. I could never find a spot and I find that annoying if I just want to run in somewhere for something quick. So, I think it really cuts both ways. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Where were these patrons (that are suddenly gone from the downtown) parking before the meters went into effect? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dennis Dubrow traderdube@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:42:37 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] 2003 Asbury is a ghost town, I spoke to a number of Cookman retailers, business is down since the meters went into effect. It reminds me of 8 years ago when we bulls some stores and rented them, then America's cup opened and we sat there waiting for a customer to come in...and waited and waited and waited. The merchants that are still there, and almost all the current merchants are hard working business people
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Doesn't it really depend on the income level of the business's in a city with a parking issue? Downtown AP isn't exactly a high income earning area, so it's not easy to compare it to places like NYC, Jersey City or others. Those are full on cities. AP is only a city by name and it's primarily residential. I don't have all of the answers, but I can honestly say that as a downtown employee, I've heard nothing but negative talk since parking went into effect. As I've said before, I ride my bike most of the time. Yesterday, it rained so I drove. I'm on a very tight budget. After a year and a half of unemployment, I returned to the work force making approx. half of what I made previously. I went from 70k a year to 38k. Every penny counts. Lot's of people are in the same boat as me. Perhaps the problem is mixing residential and business? Maybe paid parking could have been avoided if they simply enforced the 2 hour parking areas. All I know is residents aren't happy about having to park blocks away from their homes. If you go grocery shopping and live on Cookman, imagine walking blocks with your load of groceries, or making multiple trips. Downtown AP is full of musicians. Imagine trying to get your drums, or guitar or bass and your amp to your car blocks away, or not having a place in the evening to pull up to to load your car? That's what I'm hearing about every day. I work in an office filled with AP musicians, and I work at The Saint, where people are totally unhappy with the city at this time. It's easy to see things thru rose colored glasses where restaurant patrons are now happy and avoid thinking about the people that the parking issue has effected. If the city were smart (which they are not and history supports that) they would have done more research, run a trial with simulated paid parking, and study the seasonal nature as it relates to business in AP. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I don't know of many places located in a downtown city area where parking is free for employees, my company offers discounted parking for $380 a month now, and that's discounted Let's take away the meters.. if every parking spot is filled by employees and residents on Cookman, do you think its right to ask a patron to park blocks away to do their shopping? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:53:51 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 2003 The bottom line in my opinion is people coming to the downtown area to eat are happy to find open parking spaces, but the reality is that during working hours, downtown has become a ghosttown, and tons of people aren't happy about it. The city has basically said screw you to employees and residents. Same thing that happened in my neighborhood. I think the America's Cup guy is reluctant to admit that his own push for paid parking has had a detrimental effect on his business. I work on Bond Street. Every employee at my company refused to buy a parking pass. In this economy, adding what amounts to another tax on your income simply isn't a good idea. Not only that, but I believe that if you buy the employee parking pass, you still have to park blocks away from where you work. Correct me if I'm wrong about that one. Then, if you get somebody like me, who now has to pay to park in front of his home and works downtown, you are screwed. How is this helping residents and employees? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@ wrote: Take the conversation further with the Americas Cup owner though, my husband and i spoke to him last saturday for a while about parking and at that point he was very happy with the paid parking, even if business is down he sees it as a huge benefit in the long term, plus you can't gauge business being down, there are now 3 coffee shops downtown (if you include the gelato place), maybe that's why business is down, we don't drink enough coffee to support 3 coffee shops. maybe now there's parking people will come from neighbouring towns for coffee. there are way too many variables at play to blame it one just one thing. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: ** Yesterday morning, I stopped at America's Cup for a bagel. Totally dead compared to before parking went into effect. I overheard a conversation with the owner saying that business is down big time. Same thing with Russo Music. They are saying that they had the worst week of business since they opened. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Meanwhile, several of the business's that lobbied for paid parking are stating that business has gone downhill since it went into effect. There's also unhappy
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How can you economically compare Hoboken, JC and Manhattan to downtown AP realistically? The income levels are totally different. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote: We have to compare it to other towns though, if you lived and worked in Hoboken, Jersey City, Manhattan in the downtown areas you would have to pay for parking (when we lived in NY we paid nearly $000s/month for parking for a car and motorbike), it's a lifestyle choice we had to accept. Living in AP and working in AP is no different to that, much cheaper, but you would expect it to be much cheaper as it's the suburbs. It's tough to impose costs on people who have not paid them until now, and I understand that is not pleasant to increase your cost of living and I truly feel for those impacted, but perhaps we've not been in a reality until now. It's not dissimilar to gas pricing, when gas was $1.50/gallon it was not a reality, the rest of the world was paying $5 to $10 / gallon if not an oil producing nation. So when it raised to $3 / $4 here it put the country in a real situation as opposed to a deflated one. I don't mean to bring this up to raise a debate on gas prices here or cause some political debate, i'm just using it as a comparison about living in reality. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: ** The bottom line in my opinion is people coming to the downtown area to eat are happy to find open parking spaces, but the reality is that during working hours, downtown has become a ghosttown, and tons of people aren't happy about it. The city has basically said screw you to employees and residents. Same thing that happened in my neighborhood. I think the America's Cup guy is reluctant to admit that his own push for paid parking has had a detrimental effect on his business. I work on Bond Street. Every employee at my company refused to buy a parking pass. In this economy, adding what amounts to another tax on your income simply isn't a good idea. Not only that, but I believe that if you buy the employee parking pass, you still have to park blocks away from where you work. Correct me if I'm wrong about that one. Then, if you get somebody like me, who now has to pay to park in front of his home and works downtown, you are screwed. How is this helping residents and employees? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@ wrote: Take the conversation further with the Americas Cup owner though, my husband and i spoke to him last saturday for a while about parking and at that point he was very happy with the paid parking, even if business is down he sees it as a huge benefit in the long term, plus you can't gauge business being down, there are now 3 coffee shops downtown (if you include the gelato place), maybe that's why business is down, we don't drink enough coffee to support 3 coffee shops. maybe now there's parking people will come from neighbouring towns for coffee. there are way too many variables at play to blame it one just one thing. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: ** Yesterday morning, I stopped at America's Cup for a bagel. Totally dead compared to before parking went into effect. I overheard a conversation with the owner saying that business is down big time. Same thing with Russo Music. They are saying that they had the worst week of business since they opened. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Meanwhile, several of the business's that lobbied for paid parking are stating that business has gone downhill since it went into effect. There's also unhappy people north of the parking zone in the residential neighborhoods. Scores of employee's who are not willing to pay to park are now parking in those areas. It really gets bad when the school in that neighborhood gets out. There used to be open parking for people to stop and wait for their kids, now it's become a log jam that did not exist before. Also, there were 3 break in's this past week, 2 on Mattison and 1 on Cookman. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@ wrote: I'm with you, I avoided too - now i don't avoid, i think it's great that i can find parking. If you talk to some of the retailers they're happy about the parking situation and it has increased business for them. There are always going to be complainers, it's human nature, if it wasn't parking they'd be complaining about the roadworks, or the weather or the something else, something else. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:32 AM, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ wrote: ** I came in 2004, America's Cup was not here until much later. In 2004
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My reality is my income was nearly cut in half, by no fault of my own. I'm now struggling to keep up with expenses that I never had to worry about before. Don't get me wrong, I love living and working in the same town, and i absolutely love riding my bike to work. It's funny to read the echo of what the Occupy Wall St protesters first rose up about, the 99% vs. the 1%. It seems that higher income people are supporting paid parking while those who are struggling are living with their new reality, and there doesn't seem to be much empathy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote: We have to compare it to other towns though, if you lived and worked in Hoboken, Jersey City, Manhattan in the downtown areas you would have to pay for parking (when we lived in NY we paid nearly $000s/month for parking for a car and motorbike), it's a lifestyle choice we had to accept. Living in AP and working in AP is no different to that, much cheaper, but you would expect it to be much cheaper as it's the suburbs. It's tough to impose costs on people who have not paid them until now, and I understand that is not pleasant to increase your cost of living and I truly feel for those impacted, but perhaps we've not been in a reality until now. It's not dissimilar to gas pricing, when gas was $1.50/gallon it was not a reality, the rest of the world was paying $5 to $10 / gallon if not an oil producing nation. So when it raised to $3 / $4 here it put the country in a real situation as opposed to a deflated one. I don't mean to bring this up to raise a debate on gas prices here or cause some political debate, i'm just using it as a comparison about living in reality. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: ** The bottom line in my opinion is people coming to the downtown area to eat are happy to find open parking spaces, but the reality is that during working hours, downtown has become a ghosttown, and tons of people aren't happy about it. The city has basically said screw you to employees and residents. Same thing that happened in my neighborhood. I think the America's Cup guy is reluctant to admit that his own push for paid parking has had a detrimental effect on his business. I work on Bond Street. Every employee at my company refused to buy a parking pass. In this economy, adding what amounts to another tax on your income simply isn't a good idea. Not only that, but I believe that if you buy the employee parking pass, you still have to park blocks away from where you work. Correct me if I'm wrong about that one. Then, if you get somebody like me, who now has to pay to park in front of his home and works downtown, you are screwed. How is this helping residents and employees? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@ wrote: Take the conversation further with the Americas Cup owner though, my husband and i spoke to him last saturday for a while about parking and at that point he was very happy with the paid parking, even if business is down he sees it as a huge benefit in the long term, plus you can't gauge business being down, there are now 3 coffee shops downtown (if you include the gelato place), maybe that's why business is down, we don't drink enough coffee to support 3 coffee shops. maybe now there's parking people will come from neighbouring towns for coffee. there are way too many variables at play to blame it one just one thing. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: ** Yesterday morning, I stopped at America's Cup for a bagel. Totally dead compared to before parking went into effect. I overheard a conversation with the owner saying that business is down big time. Same thing with Russo Music. They are saying that they had the worst week of business since they opened. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Meanwhile, several of the business's that lobbied for paid parking are stating that business has gone downhill since it went into effect. There's also unhappy people north of the parking zone in the residential neighborhoods. Scores of employee's who are not willing to pay to park are now parking in those areas. It really gets bad when the school in that neighborhood gets out. There used to be open parking for people to stop and wait for their kids, now it's become a log jam that did not exist before. Also, there were 3 break in's this past week, 2 on Mattison and 1 on Cookman. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@ wrote: I'm with you, I avoided too - now i don't avoid, i think it's great that i can find parking. If you talk to some of the retailers they're happy about the parking situation and it has increased
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Duh, I know that. I live here year round. I love how the guy who's economically doing well by his own admission looks down and tells me to Get used to it I'm a struggling 50 yr old and you want me to suck it up. Do you want me to move out of my beloved home, get a roommate and watch everything I worked so far for continue to go to shit? I'd love to put you in front of a group of residents and employees and tell them to Get over it Good luck with that, should you have the balls to do so. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Doesn't it really depend on the income level of the business's in a city with a parking issue? Downtown AP isn't exactly a high income earning area, so it's not easy to compare it to places like NYC, Jersey City or others. Those are full on cities. AP is only a city by name and it's primarily residential. Hinge, the simple fact of the matter - that you CANNOT dislodge - is that the number of cars HOGGING parking spots on Cookman during the week did not translate into business for the stores. I have been in the stores a zillion times when there was not a space available on Cookman and I was alone. The parking is done. Get used to it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Do you ever stop to think that maybe the ghost town we are now seeing points to the fact that the Cookman area is full of low traffic specialty retailers and the residents and employees made it look like more was going on then it seemed? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: Duh, I know that. I live here year round. I love how the guy who's economically doing well by his own admission looks down and tells me to Get used to it I'm a struggling 50 yr old and you want me to suck it up. Do you want me to move out of my beloved home, get a roommate and watch everything I worked so far for continue to go to shit? I'd love to put you in front of a group of residents and employees and tell them to Get over it Good luck with that, should you have the balls to do so. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Doesn't it really depend on the income level of the business's in a city with a parking issue? Downtown AP isn't exactly a high income earning area, so it's not easy to compare it to places like NYC, Jersey City or others. Those are full on cities. AP is only a city by name and it's primarily residential. Hinge, the simple fact of the matter - that you CANNOT dislodge - is that the number of cars HOGGING parking spots on Cookman during the week did not translate into business for the stores. I have been in the stores a zillion times when there was not a space available on Cookman and I was alone. The parking is done. Get used to it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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How do you solve residents hogging parking on Cookman without requiring payment? Enforce 2 hour parking rules. Why is that not an option? Who loses in that scenario? Sometimes, the bullshit of this city amazes me. Approx. 6 weeks ago, I went to a council meeting, and a rep from iStar left a load of bullshit about the schedule of fixing roads in the oceanfront area, including my street, which is a pothole nightmare. They said they were going to start within days. Days and weeks went by, nothing happened. The rep also stated they were going to immediately do something about the eyesore of the Esperanza. They claimed they were going to wrap the site, and were prepared to do so starting the next day. Last time I checked, it's still an eyesore. Minor work was done on a sidewalk on the west side of that block. Seems to me the problem there isn't what you walk on, it's what you look up at. Maybe AP is just going to eventually become another gentrified playground for the wealty. That's becoming the American way more and more with each passing day. Screw the poor and middle class. Tell them to get used to it Fuck that. WE are starting to fight back. Get used to it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Doesn't it really depend on the income level of the business's in a city with a parking issue? Downtown AP isn't exactly a high income earning area, so it's not easy to compare it to places like NYC, Jersey City or others. Those are full on cities. AP is only a city by name and it's primarily residential. Hinge, the simple fact of the matter - that you CANNOT dislodge - is that the number of cars HOGGING parking spots on Cookman during the week did not translate into business for the stores. I have been in the stores a zillion times when there was not a space available on Cookman and I was alone. The parking is done. Get used to it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2003
At the moment, the fact is for the past 2 weeks, reality is showing that the demand for those parking spaces during 9 to 5 if virtually non existent. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Its sounds like a good plan of attack, but I can tell you firsthand that this type of guerilla marketing does not work We tried this at a business I managed and it ended up hurting us in the long run, I lost a lunch crowd and never gained them back, biggest complaint.. NO PARKING I lost every straggling walk-in I had between 12-4pm, never got them back Cookman loses more business from lack of parking than anything else, and that is a fact Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:39:12 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 2003 Do you ever stop to think that maybe the ghost town we are now seeing points to the fact that the Cookman area is full of low traffic specialty retailers and the residents and employees made it look like more was going on then it seemed? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Duh, I know that. I live here year round. I love how the guy who's economically doing well by his own admission looks down and tells me to Get used to it I'm a struggling 50 yr old and you want me to suck it up. Do you want me to move out of my beloved home, get a roommate and watch everything I worked so far for continue to go to shit? I'd love to put you in front of a group of residents and employees and tell them to Get over it Good luck with that, should you have the balls to do so. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Doesn't it really depend on the income level of the business's in a city with a parking issue? Downtown AP isn't exactly a high income earning area, so it's not easy to compare it to places like NYC, Jersey City or others. Those are full on cities. AP is only a city by name and it's primarily residential. Hinge, the simple fact of the matter - that you CANNOT dislodge - is that the number of cars HOGGING parking spots on Cookman during the week did not translate into business for the stores. I have been in the stores a zillion times when there was not a space available on Cookman and I was alone. The parking is done. Get used to it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2003
Currently, residents and employees with passes are supposed to park along Lake Ave. You keep it that way, and instead of a high priced permit, you make it a $5 to $10 a year resident parking sticker (That's what I paid when I lived in Edgewater) and a comparable employee parking permit. Keep it affordable with today's economic reality in mind. Keep Cookman and the surrounding areas 2 hour free parking. If you screw up, you get a ticket. Simple. It's also a city/NJ transit problem if commuters are parking on Cookman. I hope I'm not giving the impression that I'm the only person with these thoughts. I'm the only person from my office who posts here. I don't think this group gives an accurate sampling of what people are actually talking about concerning parking. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: How would 2hr parking solve it though? To me, that's just inviting more problems What happens to the people who live/park their cars on Cookman and walk to the train station? What happens to the employees who work and park on Cookman? If I was their boss I would not be happy that they are leaving for a parking break every 2hrs What happens to someone shopping on one end of cookman and is parked on the other end and only has 5mins to move their car and both hands full of bags? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:50:44 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 2003 How do you solve residents hogging parking on Cookman without requiring payment? Enforce 2 hour parking rules. Why is that not an option? Who loses in that scenario? Sometimes, the bullshit of this city amazes me. Approx. 6 weeks ago, I went to a council meeting, and a rep from iStar left a load of bullshit about the schedule of fixing roads in the oceanfront area, including my street, which is a pothole nightmare. They said they were going to start within days. Days and weeks went by, nothing happened. The rep also stated they were going to immediately do something about the eyesore of the Esperanza. They claimed they were going to wrap the site, and were prepared to do so starting the next day. Last time I checked, it's still an eyesore. Minor work was done on a sidewalk on the west side of that block. Seems to me the problem there isn't what you walk on, it's what you look up at. Maybe AP is just going to eventually become another gentrified playground for the wealty. That's becoming the American way more and more with each passing day. Screw the poor and middle class. Tell them to get used to it Fuck that. WE are starting to fight back. Get used to it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Doesn't it really depend on the income level of the business's in a city with a parking issue? Downtown AP isn't exactly a high income earning area, so it's not easy to compare it to places like NYC, Jersey City or others. Those are full on cities. AP is only a city by name and it's primarily residential. Hinge, the simple fact of the matter - that you CANNOT dislodge - is that the number of cars HOGGING parking spots on Cookman during the week did not translate into business for the stores. I have been in the stores a zillion times when there was not a space available on Cookman and I was alone. The parking is done. Get used to it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2003
You didn't tell me to move. Sorry if I'm carrying on. I'm simply providing counter point as a person who spends 40 hours a week on Bond Street and telling you what people are saying on a daily basis. As for carrying on, imagine just for a second being in my shoes. I lost a 70k a year job. I struggled like never before in my life for a year and a half as I was looking for a job, only to discover that the job market kinda sucks for a 50 yr old former project manager, web guru and video editor producer. I had to get used to an entirely different life in my beloved AP. Like I said, and this is my personal story separate from my thoughts about parking, every penny counts now. Affording 2 parking passes isn't that easy, or, I could suck it up and move to a more affordable place. Great, I worked my ass off since I was 17 and at 50 I have to start thinking about getting a roommate if I want to get used to it and play by AP's new economic rules. Meanwhile, people who live here and don't live on a block where they have to pay to park are telling me to get used to it. Do you expect that to go over well? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I'm a struggling 50 yr old and you want me to suck it up. Do you want me to move out of my beloved home, get a roommate and watch everything I worked so far for continue to go to shit? I'd love to put you in front of a group of residents and employees and tell them to Get over it Good luck with that, should you have the balls to do so. I think you are carrying on and I didnt say any of what you suggest except that the parking is here to stay and get used to it. If enough people want to change it, power to them. I told you to move? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2003
It's not just about what I want. I'm just the messenger. I ride my bike to work 99% of the time. If I were to speak for residents and employees, I'd say that the city didn't take their concerns into very much consideration. That's what I hear on a daily basis. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: At the moment, the fact is for the past 2 weeks, reality is showing that the demand for those parking spaces during 9 to 5 if virtually non existent. You are proving the exact point. So you want paid parking only on weekends? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2003
Best comment so far. Right on the money. One of my co-workers wife's expressed concern about using the parking meters late in the evening. She's feels like a sitting duck in the dark while getting out her wallet, and having to hold her cell phone in one hand as a flashlight because the keypad is hard to see (I see people doing that every day). Is that not a very valid concern? It's not much different than the issue on my 200 block. Just this past weekend my next door neighbor started a conversation asking if I felt safe in reference to parking around the block, which makes the 3 occupied houses on my block look empty. Nobody is parking on 1st Ave, and the city refuses to budge about easing year round, till midnight parking. What happens when one of our houses gets broken into because we now look like easy targets? It's already happened once to my next door neighbor. Somebody climbed over his fence, into his locked back yard, and stole 2 bikes that were locked up back there. My downstairs neighbor, who's pretty tough, has also expressed concerns related to our abandoned street. That's why we are pressing our luck and parking out front. So far, no tickets. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Dubrow traderdube@... wrote: Many of you are personalizing the situation. The fact is that if you talk to the business owners who rely on their business to live, they are down. Some of them are holding out hope that in the long run the parking will pay off. Before the parking went into effect I know a couple of downtown residents that parked 2 or 3 cars on Cookman, leaving them there for days at a time. Similarly, we used to watch the owners/employees of stores park their cars in front of their stores all day, yet they still complained they had no business. And while we all know that the riots of July 4 are the traditional date that started the decay of Asbury as a downtown shopping mecca, it was the malls and free parking that had an equally bad affect on downtowns in Red Bank and Long Branch as well as Asbury. And it has been mentioned, where is the marketing for downtown AP? There is none, other than a weekly huge email from the city, that basically promotes bars and restaurants. All, 100% of the business owners I know and have recently spoken with about the parking are/were in favor of the paid parking, but that doesn't change the fact that they are going to have a helluva time coming up with the Nov 1 rent check. And there is another issue that is not being discussed. The business owners and their employees who work after dark, who work until 10PM and later. They now have to walk 3-4-5 blocks to their cars at night. I have been told that one person has already been accosted and robbed while walking to their car. While paid parking is a fruitful plan, the fruit needs to start out as seeds, or it's artificial; the implementation of park; The Parking Plan, is either non-existent, or artificial. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2003
Thanks Dan. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: I am going to talk to the city and see if we can come up with a workable solution for employees with a restricted parking area nearby that is well lit. But to make that work, if even possible, is that all have to work together. That's business owners, employees, etc. No handing out the permits to others, etc. etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2003
At my office on Bond, we have no designated parking,and on a daily basis we have about 3-4 of our employees driving to work. I can definitely speak for the guy who sits next to me, who would be vehemently opposed to spending $60 a month to park. He's totally peeved about the parking situation and already talking about beginning to ride his bike to work as well. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: But tell me there is a designated place for them to park now? How many spaces are we talking about that might be set aside? There has to be some charge for it though - $2-$3 a day? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Thanks Dan. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: I am going to talk to the city and see if we can come up with a workable solution for employees with a restricted parking area nearby that is well lit. But to make that work, if even possible, is that all have to work together. That's business owners, employees, etc. No handing out the permits to others, etc. etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Occupy Asbury Park/Occupy Bond St. Bar
It's rare, but it happens --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Dubrow traderdube@... wrote: How about that Jack, we agree on something politicalmiracles do occur... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Occupy Asbury Park/Occupy Bond St. Bar
Somebody has created a Facebook group called Occupy Asbury Park and an event to support OWS called Occupy Bond Street Bar, in which they are going to have prizes and giveaways. OAP's mission statement claims WE HAVE NO LEADER What a joke. This just dilutes the actually OWS movement, which itself is becoming a bit of a joke. We live 1 hour away and all people can come up with is go to a bar, get drunk and get mad at people because it's becoming a trendy thing to do. Ugh... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Occupy Asbury Park/Occupy Bond St. Bar
Absolutely. Too many causes dilute the entire movement. Carrying signs that say Tax the Rich don't help much either. Vilifying people because the government blew it with our tax codes isn't going to solve anything. In my opinion, they should be occupying Capital Hill, and the offices of Congress and Senate members. As for Occupy Bond Street...absolutely ridiculous. Here's how that one will go (it's tonight by the way) 1) Get to your nice warm, safe and comfy bar with great comfort food 2) Drink up! 3) Yell about taxes, or the government 4) Drink up! 5) Hey man, we are the 99% 6) Drink up! 7) Stumble home and watch some TV And this is coming from a guy who was initially excited by OWS and supportive of the movement. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: OWS had a perfect opportunity to make putting a stop to corporate interests/lobbying that has corrupted the government their message and they blew it Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:57:21 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Occupy Asbury Park/Occupy Bond St. Bar Somebody has created a Facebook group called Occupy Asbury Park and an event to support OWS called Occupy Bond Street Bar, in which they are going to have prizes and giveaways. OAP's mission statement claims WE HAVE NO LEADER What a joke. This just dilutes the actually OWS movement, which itself is becoming a bit of a joke. We live 1 hour away and all people can come up with is go to a bar, get drunk and get mad at people because it's becoming a trendy thing to do. Ugh... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Occupy Asbury Park/Occupy Bond St. Bar
I agree completely. I think OWAP and the Bond street thing are just jumping on a bandwagon without thinking before you leap. At least in NYC, they are there 24/7, doing the best they can and getting tons of attention. Sitting around a bar isn't exactly protesting. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: Well, I am one the 1% who thinks that OWS, as imperfect as it is, is a good thing. It got the conversation started. The thingy at the Bond St bar is just a business gimmick. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Absolutely. Too many causes dilute the entire movement. Carrying signs that say Tax the Rich don't help much either. Vilifying people because the government blew it with our tax codes isn't going to solve anything. In my opinion, they should be occupying Capital Hill, and the offices of Congress and Senate members. As for Occupy Bond Street...absolutely ridiculous. Here's how that one will go (it's tonight by the way) 1) Get to your nice warm, safe and comfy bar with great comfort food 2) Drink up! 3) Yell about taxes, or the government 4) Drink up! 5) Hey man, we are the 99% 6) Drink up! 7) Stumble home and watch some TV And this is coming from a guy who was initially excited by OWS and supportive of the movement. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: OWS had a perfect opportunity to make putting a stop to corporate interests/lobbying that has corrupted the government their message and they blew it Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:57:21 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Occupy Asbury Park/Occupy Bond St. Bar Somebody has created a Facebook group called Occupy Asbury Park and an event to support OWS called Occupy Bond Street Bar, in which they are going to have prizes and giveaways. OAP's mission statement claims WE HAVE NO LEADER What a joke. This just dilutes the actually OWS movement, which itself is becoming a bit of a joke. We live 1 hour away and all people can come up with is go to a bar, get drunk and get mad at people because it's becoming a trendy thing to do. Ugh... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
The machines are programmable. You could just add a message to the welcome screen. Or, temporarily cover up the parking signs. Speaking of which, I still have a sign pole without a sign in my front yard. I contacted the city about it several times. 6 months and counting. My friends have suggested I should just make my own sign. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Why would you have to go back and restripe it? Stripe it once, number it and don't enforce it, I have no issue with paid parking, I encourage/welcome it, I have seen the benefits I hear you but when paid parking was even suspended for a while this year folks kept putting money in the machines anyway. The residences are supposed to have parking lots. There are restaurants on Mattison that need parking so all you would be doing is shifting the cars that were stored on Cookman to Mattison. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
Perhaps AP would be a good location for a scooter store? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: Ask for Andrew or Marco and tell them Dan Sciannameo referred you. Jersey City Vespa just closed a few months ago and that would have been ideal since you work there. Stumpy's seems like good guys but they don't push the Vespas. Used is a big bargain but you have to make sure the scoot was never laid down (or at least bad, I laid my GTV down doing gymkhana through the cones going into the Lincoln Tunnel last year but not even a scrape because of the cowl protection bars). SHould come by and see. I keep the 64 vespa and 2009 stella (essentially a vespa px150) here.) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Wow, thank you for the info. Definitely going to check this out. I've told my fiance a 1000 times we should look used, had no clue where to start though I'll follow up and let you know how we make out. I am going to be in Brooklyn next weekend, so maybe I'll stop by that dealer too Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:41:57 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today The 300 GTS super is nice. I have three scoots and three motorcycles and its getting crazy trying to drive all 6 for a while. I feel bad I havent ridden my GTV 250 in a couple of weeks. I really do not want to sell any but. The GTV 250 (now a GTV 300) and the GTS are essentially the same mechanically. Very comfortabel and fast. Easily commute to JC and cruise at 70+ mph. I am a Vespa guy for the style, but there are other alternatives with larger wheels (more stability). I just sold a 2009 S150 (black) with 285 miles this summer that would have been perfect. You might want to pick up used. Craigslist is good also http://www.nyscooterclub.com/forum/ folks post scoots for sale. Stumpy's is the local Vespa dealer but if you want to take a trip Vespa Brooklyn (www.vespabk.com) (Andrew) will cut you a deal and Metro Scooters (Allan) up in Northvale NJ (http://www.metroscooter.us/index.html) is good too. Here's a 150 cc Kymco for sale http://www.nyscooterclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2t=16768 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: We have two in the family (my sister and brother-in-law) Wanted to take the plunge this past spring, but had to decide between starting the house restoration or a new toy. Looking at the 300 S for myself, have not decided on one for my fiance yet. She wants to test ride and see how the LX150 and LX50 compare Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:25:11 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: (vespa this spring). Talk to me, I own three [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
Since when do we start dumping on people based on the volume of business they do? If they do that every day, like clockwork, that makes them a good customer. Lot's of people do that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: If you are buying 1 cup of coffee you are not keeping anyone in business. You are hogging a parking spot for nothing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, joeybearnj joeybearnj@ wrote: Actually, $1 to park is a deterrent. When you add $1 to a cup of chai tea (or coffee) for your drive in addition to having to find a parking spot, people will think twice. Maybe not week enders, but locals will. Let's meet at restaurantwhatever on Cookman becomes a harder sell when your friends are driving in to town PAST places they don't have to jostle for parking and then pay for the space. Joey Schweigert 1306 Monroe --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Cookman midweek is tough. If the spaces were filled with residents and employees then nothing lost. Parking was definitely a problem on weekends. If someone has a problem spending $1 to park then you don't need them as a customer. (BTW, you can buy 1 minutes, or 30 minutes). That'll be the same cheapskate that buys a cup of coffee and sits there for 2 hours. Parking is NEVER free. It always has a cost. BTW Hinge, did they suspend parking on your block? I saw your VW in a numbered spot in front of your house the other day, or did you buy ht parking pass? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Prior to implementing the paid parking, several Cookman business's were complaining that they weren't getting much traffic because it was hard for the customers to find a place to park. I guess they are going to get a reality check now. As a person who works on Bond street, the reality is that during weekdays, downtown AP is all about residents and employees. And just like what happened in my neighborhood, you'll see residents and employee's parking in the non-metered areas and taking up those residents parking spaces. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: I just came back from a quick bike ride and didn't put 2 and 2 together.definitely less cars around Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:38:17 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Downtown paid parking went into effect today As of today you now have to pay to park downtown. The result? A downtown that looks deserted. One of my Allenhurst friends who normally goes to America's Cup turned right around and headed to Cravings instead. Another friend who lives in Spring Lake and likes America's Cup says she'll she'll also stay local. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
Some people are suggesting that the parking meters might actually increase crime when people are trying to use the poorly lit meters at night, especially approaching the midnight hour. I'm not sure if I agree with that, but it could be a valid point. People pulling out their wallets on the street could be sitting ducks. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Seriously? A discussion about parking meters has turned into threatening to boycott someone's business (if they even own one) because of their opinion Are we adults or children? Let's get back on track. Weekday shoppers are turned off from shopping in AP for two reasons.crime and lack of parking So how do we address those two items? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Joey Schweigert joeybearnj@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:00:02 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today dfsavgny - Do you own a business in town? Let me know which it is so I don't waste your time. Joey Schweigert 1306 Monroe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
The problem is the keypad. At night, it's hard to see and I see people using their cell phones for illumination. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Some people are suggesting that the parking meters might actually increase crime when people are trying to use the poorly lit meters at night, especially approaching the midnight hour. I'm not sure if I agree with that, but it could be a valid point. People pulling out their wallets on the street could be sitting ducks. that thought crossed my mind a number of times. I leave my wallet, take a credit card and a few singles or change. Try card first, so if it works, I know I have a receipt. Had a few times I had no receipt. And some of those meters would of been smart to place under a light - even though they light up - after you hit a button. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
I think you've hit the nail on the head, and the reason why Cookman now looks abandoned. Practically everything is a specialty store. If there were something akin to a modern Woolworths, you'd generate traffic and lead the curious to the specialty shops. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: You have to define what a weekday shopper is. What would draw one to to shop AP - is it selection, price, the scene, food, proximity to other place of interest that day and parking. that comes down to is it a weekday destination shopping trip? Or are those people more likely to go to the mall on a rainy day or The Grove in Shrewsbury. You want daytime life on cookman? Then like it or not, you need a major co (or groups of little ones) who have employees with disposable incomes and or a major shopping destination - like a Marshalls where people just walk in and buy tons of useless items. We had this discussion before. What you have now is the funkiness that you want so cater to the night business of music and restaurants ( that means be open when people ARE there). You can't be closed when people are there and open when they aren't Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
The AP meters have pay via smart phone coming soon,however, I've researched the app that it works with and it's got nothing but horrible reviews. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote: I'm a weekday shopper - right now if i'm working from home and want to run out to grab a coffee i do a flyby on cookman, see if there's anywhere to park and if not head on to panera or somethign where parking is guaranteed. I know now that i'm sure to have parking now downtown and frankly if i'm running into a coffee shop to grab and go i won't bother paying to park (and i'm sure that others will be the same), that is a huge positive for the coffee shops and deli and grab and go places. If i need a change of scenery and want to grab my laptop to work somewhere else, same thing, i do a flyby, parking, yay, i'll go to cookman, no parking and panera here i come. Now there will be parking, i will pay if it's a stop and i'll spend more money down time as i wander and now buy 2 cups of coffee, maybe a snack etc. Same thing with lunch, quick stops at local shops, hell, i'll even join club a now as I can park for sure and not worry about missing class as i'm driving around looking for parking. I will happily pay for all those things. I'm sure i'm not unique in this philosophy, so the pure nature of freeing up spaces will drive more business for the merchants and that's what we want, give them a chance to survive in the off months and thrive in the on months. From a safety concern, in the UK you can pay your meter parking by text message or by calling a number and using an automated answering system - maybe something like that would be a good idea here. Then there'd be no fumbling around at midnite trying to pay the meter. Or maybe the bars/restaurants should have the meters insite or right outside in the lit areas so there's no deserted dark roads that we have to worry about. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:25 AM, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: ** You have to define what a weekday shopper is. What would draw one to to shop AP - is it selection, price, the scene, food, proximity to other place of interest that day and parking. that comes down to is it a weekday destination shopping trip? Or are those people more likely to go to the mall on a rainy day or The Grove in Shrewsbury. You want daytime life on cookman? Then like it or not, you need a major co (or groups of little ones) who have employees with disposable incomes and or a major shopping destination - like a Marshalls where people just walk in and buy tons of useless items. We had this discussion before. What you have now is the funkiness that you want so cater to the night business of music and restaurants ( that means be open when people ARE there). You can't be closed when people are there and open when they aren't [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
I work at one of them. Asbury Media. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: We do need more business like that. Tech companies would be perfect. The Tri-City has been preaching this for years. A business that does not require foot traffic essentially, but has a decent number of employees in their offices each day If the condo's were done and occupied, the meter thing would be a lot less of an issue with the current business owners on Cookman Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakdorf@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:25:02 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today You have to define what a weekday shopper is. What would draw one to to shop AP - is it selection, price, the scene, food, proximity to other place of interest that day and parking. that comes down to is it a weekday destination shopping trip? Or are those people more likely to go to the mall on a rainy day or The Grove in Shrewsbury. You want daytime life on cookman? Then like it or not, you need a major co (or groups of little ones) who have employees with disposable incomes and or a major shopping destination - like a Marshalls where people just walk in and buy tons of useless items. We had this discussion before. What you have now is the funkiness that you want so cater to the night business of music and restaurants ( that means be open when people ARE there). You can't be closed when people are there and open when they aren't [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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It's no wonder people are getting passionate about this issue. For example, I work on Bond street. The metered zone on this street is non-residential, all business. The 2 restaurants are only open in the evening. I had a choice, pay $8 to go to work, or park a few blocks away. Fortunately, they aren't enforcing yet, so I parked out front on an empty street. Mattison? It's an empty street. There is no demand for parking there on a weekday during working hours, and that's exactly what you see. Meanwhile, we employees are now being asked to either pay, or walk a few blocks in the rain. As for the tension here today, it could have been avoided if a poster didn't belittle people because they don't want to pay extra for the coffee at a venue they've been faithful to. Maybe the little bucks don't matter to some people, but it's not exactly fair to imprint your own economic situation on other people and belittle them here. It does absolutely no good. That's what I think started the bad vibe here today, and it could have easily been avoided. Perhaps the city over thought the enforcement zone and should have considered limiting it to Cookman. That would've been a good compromise that made more people happy. We are no longer living in times when people are willing to be nickled and dimed to death over everything. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: no one's having a fit. no one's accusing you of anything. it's a point. people take parking spaces is one issue business owners have to contend with. The others are having customers and paying rent, salaries supplies along with having an in product - and competition from those with cheaper prices larger spaces. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@ wrote: as he's my husband and sitting across from me i'm pretty sure it's not addressing me :-) it does get a little heated in here at times - i guess everyone is passionate with their thoughts and the plot gets lost On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: ** Who are you addressing? Why is everyone being such an ass to one another, its like children in here Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sandro Mascarenhas sanxoxo@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:06:54 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: ...and you must be one of those who ASSume no wonder no one takes you seriously here. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
Actually, it seems like much of the downtown crime isn't reported to the media. Not too long ago, Humorandgrace had their window smashed in my building, and more recently somebody climbed the fire escape to the 2nd floor of my office and stole a hoard of power tools. There has also been several un-reported to the media muggings. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I am NOT saying there is crime there now, that is the perception outsiders have. Although my car was broken into on Bond 4wks ago 2yrs ago when I was thinking of opening an office in AP I had pulled police reports for crimes on this particular section of Cookman. Countless car break-ins and several mugging attempts, but that was 2yrs ago. I'm sure its much better now I have co-workers who live in RedBank and Absolutely love eating in AP, but they won't go to Cookman at night, they have this perception that when the sun goes down, the criminals come out to play The APP doesn't help with that perception, unless you live in AP and know firsthand its not as bad as its made out to be I used the meters today, I enjoyed finding parking, and didn't mind paying the $4 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: 2fast4u sharon_b283@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:23:06 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today Apparently some of you weren't around before 1984-1994, when a few stores were still open on Cookman like Jay Davids, the Youth Center, Wolco's, The Press Box, Rexall Drugs and Lynn's was still open. There were meters then and really can't remember when they pulled them up. There were parking meters on Sewall Ave., Bond St, Monroe Ave. and Emory Sts. The Palace was still open and you had to park around the perimeter of the building. There were parking meters everywhere. The conventional kind. The Asbury Park Police would chalk the back of your tire and ticket you, unless you fed the meter. City Hall was on Bangs Ave. and you had to walk up a flight of stairs to pay your fine. $2.00! The whole downtown was still open in 1970 with Steinbach's as the anchor store, The Press was next to 1st Merchant's Bank on Mattison Ave. I ate at the Press Box everyday, when I was pregnant, just for the kosher dill pickle. I would get the #18 or #20 bus from So. Belmar into Asbury Park, after dropping my 5 year old to Afternoon Kindergarten, spend just enough time in AP to pick my daughter up from school and walk the few blocks home from Belmar Elementary School. On Wednesdays, Asbury Park Stores were open late. Imagine a soft snow falling while you're Christmas Shopping. I never forgot that and the Village feel to what I thought was New England! C'mon, I was new here. Just some fond memories I have about this area and what it meant to the natives and my children, who saw the changes evolve here. Pay the fee, have a cup of coffee, enjoy the scene. Wish I could still ride a bike, fearless. I love reading how many of you ride yours. Life is short. I still don't think residents should pay to park in front of their own homes and don't understand a council that won't paint residents only with decal that glues inside the windshield, for the outrageous taxes they pay. I live 2 blocks from Cookman. Being the commuter Mom I was, I'd drive! Like Mrs. Magoo! Show me where the crime is downtown, please! I mean Cookman, Mattison and the Wesley Lake area. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Seriously? A discussion about parking meters has turned into threatening to boycott someone's business (if they even own one) because of their opinion Are we adults or children? Let's get back on track. Weekday shoppers are turned off from shopping in AP for two reasons.crime and lack of parking So how do we address those two items? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
This is how Mattison has looked for the past 3 days: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/178624/sn/142168609/name/mattison_post_meters.jpg --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: as far as safety goes, you have to use common sense. unless the paper wants to have a few pages dedicated to crime in M county, you only see a few snippets of crime. Sit in ap muni court - just for the minor stuff. Usually a full house. Common sense anywhere. First Saturday nights are a great idea that helps people overcome the perception. The rest is up to the individual businesses. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
Employees and residents are parking elsewhere, and this is the result. Like I said, in my opinion they should've started with just Cookman, and expanded from there if the need was shown to be valid. It's exactly like what has happened in my neighborhood. By the way, that photo is by Henry Vacarro, Jr. and you should see the comments on the Facebook page it's from. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: This is how Mattison has looked for the past 3 days: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/178624/sn/142168609/name/mattison_post_meters.jpg So is people not shopping? Or employees and residents parking elsewhere? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
I'm not sure if Dan deleted his comment about commuting, but I commuted for 5 years from AP to Edgewater, 140 miles a day, 5 days a week. I also commuted for 4 years from Bergen county to Bay Head. In addition, I commuted by train from Allenhurst to Hoboken for 1 year, and rode my bicycle in ALL kinds of weather to my job in Hoboken. I know all about commuting. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: hinge--- like others, I commuted to NYC for a period of time - From Elberon to Penn station, then walked about 15-20 minutes to Madison Ave carrying my laptop. Before that, it was the WTC to the seaport. I even walked from my house to the elberon train station. No limo waiting for me. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
Tension my ass... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: By the way, that photo is by Henry Vacarro, Jr. and you should see the comments on the Facebook page it's from So what that Henry posted? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
You absolutely have belittled people here, and it's not the first time. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: Tension my ass... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: By the way, that photo is by Henry Vacarro, Jr. and you should see the comments on the Facebook page it's from So what that Henry posted? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
What's the point of empty parking spaces when nobody fills them also? What's the value of an empty street like the current Mattison? Like I said, they should have just started with Cookman, looked at how it worked out, and expanded paid parking from there. I think lot's of people would've found that to be a better thought out solution. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I guess the biggest question (probably the only one), is, what's more important to the downtown now...employees/residents parking in a convenient spot for them all day long or having open spots for patrons who have not been able to park for years? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 21:32:59 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today Employees and residents are parking elsewhere, and this is the result. Like I said, in my opinion they should've started with just Cookman, and expanded from there if the need was shown to be valid. It's exactly like what has happened in my neighborhood. By the way, that photo is by Henry Vacarro, Jr. and you should see the comments on the Facebook page it's from. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: This is how Mattison has looked for the past 3 days: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/178624/sn/142168609/name/mattison_post_meters.jpg So is people not shopping? Or employees and residents parking elsewhere? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
I'm not against paid parking. I'm for a well thought out plan and I don't think we have one. I also don't like fighting with you. I respect you and realize that you know about many things that I know little about. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I'm not sure if Dan deleted his comment about commuting, I tried to add to it but somehow it got deleted. but I commuted for 5 years from AP to Edgewater, 140 miles a day, 5 days a week. I also commuted for 4 years from Bergen county to Bay Head. In addition, I commuted by train from Allenhurst to Hoboken for 1 year, and rode my bicycle in ALL kinds of weather to my job in Hoboken. I know all about commuting. Then why are you (I will not say bitching) complaining about employees having to walk two blocks in the rain? They should pay extra for having such a wonderful commute. I dont want to argue with you but you simply do not like the idea of pay parking. Seriously, there is no pleasing you when it comes to parking. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
For me, I ride my bike so it's not really an issue. I'm also willing to give it a chance, and I'm viewing the downtown parking change as a separate issue from my home parking issue. I will continue to feel that when my friends come to visit me at my home on 1st Ave. between Sept and May that it's absurd that they will have to pay to park on my block when nobody else is parking there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I had a lengthy discussion about this last night, and I've concluded that this will be good for the business' downtown. Too many spots held all day by residents and others who were not shopping. I know a guy from Ocean who parked on Cookman to take the train into NYC because he felt his car was safer there. (He also sparked the convo last night) My point is that's one free'd up space for several people to shop with now. If people are parking there because they work downtownI say suck it up. I pay $22 a day to park at my job. This is going to create turnover.good turnover, which is something that has been non existent downtown. Store owners should look into vouchers, work with the Chamber of Commerce, I see a lot of other stores that do this in other towns/cities I just feel this is going to be a good thing, it may take time for it to show, but it will be good Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:14:37 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today It was Tuesday. It looks like a ghost town because the folks who were keeping their cars there for free are not parking there. So it was a false level of activity with the cars there. Believe me, folks that were driving into AP and eat at the restaurants are NOT not coming because of two extra bucks. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: One of my downtown friends just texted me and said downtown looks like a ghost town tonight. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: As long as you continue to jam apartments and condos in using smart ridiculous calculation for a packed downtown like asbury you will continue he to have a parking rp lemon. That's why towns have zoning ordinances based on type of business is how much parking you need. Its been a problem and will continue to be a problem. No one wants to pay more rent or more taxes but wants publicity loans police and snow plowingand customers. Lots of places give a coupon in place es like Middletown. Or one hour free parking. Does the downtown have 15you minutes spots like along the ocean. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
I received a personal reply in which they reiterated that they were going to enforce year round, 9 am until midnight parking on my block. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I agree Hinge, the parking situation by you is ridiculous to say the least, and like you said...a separate issue Did anything come out of the parking committee meeting? I never received a reply email to what I sent in to them Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:45:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today For me, I ride my bike so it's not really an issue. I'm also willing to give it a chance, and I'm viewing the downtown parking change as a separate issue from my home parking issue. I will continue to feel that when my friends come to visit me at my home on 1st Ave. between Sept and May that it's absurd that they will have to pay to park on my block when nobody else is parking there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: I had a lengthy discussion about this last night, and I've concluded that this will be good for the business' downtown. Too many spots held all day by residents and others who were not shopping. I know a guy from Ocean who parked on Cookman to take the train into NYC because he felt his car was safer there. (He also sparked the convo last night) My point is that's one free'd up space for several people to shop with now. If people are parking there because they work downtownI say suck it up. I pay $22 a day to park at my job. This is going to create turnover.good turnover, which is something that has been non existent downtown. Store owners should look into vouchers, work with the Chamber of Commerce, I see a lot of other stores that do this in other towns/cities I just feel this is going to be a good thing, it may take time for it to show, but it will be good Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:14:37 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today It was Tuesday. It looks like a ghost town because the folks who were keeping their cars there for free are not parking there. So it was a false level of activity with the cars there. Believe me, folks that were driving into AP and eat at the restaurants are NOT not coming because of two extra bucks. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: One of my downtown friends just texted me and said downtown looks like a ghost town tonight. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: As long as you continue to jam apartments and condos in using smart ridiculous calculation for a packed downtown like asbury you will continue he to have a parking rp lemon. That's why towns have zoning ordinances based on type of business is how much parking you need. Its been a problem and will continue to be a problem. No one wants to pay more rent or more taxes but wants publicity loans police and snow plowingand customers. Lots of places give a coupon in place es like Middletown. Or one hour free parking. Does the downtown have 15you minutes spots like along the ocean. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Grass... ?
I think I'm having a hard time understanding how a failing school can spend $1.1 million on astroturf to serve the approx 50 players, helpers and cheerleaders out of approx. 600 students. How does this serve the other 550 students? Why not spend that money on laptops and technology, and make a push toward widespread computer literacy? Give each student a laptop and make getting good grades the incentive to use them. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b283@... wrote: I surmise that if a coach can teach a kid how to play football/basketball/baseball or any of the popular European/Caribbean futbol/soccer, there are rules, principles and penalty infringements that even a disadvantaged youth seem to grasp extraordinarily well. A certain structure. Children look up to coaches, ideally as a father or mother figure, they seem to lack otherwise. I wasn't talking about the yelling and abusive language some coaches seem to engage in. Nobody wants a Bear Bryant type in their face. They may be getting enough of that at home. No, today's teacher has to be a life coach and mentor to get through to these kids, even if their living conditions may be afoul, it's no reason for them to not be given the opportunity of a basic education. Basic education does prepare one for higher education, if wanted. When Jim mentioned that one youth said he couldn't read, I thought,why not? Who gave up on him? I blame the parents and the system that allows a child to be passed through because someone refused to follow through on this kid and wasted taxpayer money. He might have been dyslexic, sight problems, hearing problems, or hungry! I'm not a teacher, but unless a kid can see and hear properly, someone is dropping the ball and passing kids to the next grade illegally and depriving him/her of a thorough and efficient education and that teacher and school should come under scrutiny by the local, county and state boards of education. At a club I frequent, a man was trying to choose songs on the jukebox. He came over to me and asked me for assistance. My regular glasses had to be replaced, so I was wearing reading glasses. I realized he couldn't make out the print on the machine, so I said, here, try these. He did. To his surprise, he realized his sight had changed making it difficult for him to read small/fine print. He began laughing because he thought he was going blind. I suggested he see an eye doctor right away. In the meantime, I gave him the glasses. He was overjoyed that he could still read. They were steel-rimmed, so a man or woman could look the same. I had other readers at home, so it was no biggy to me to give them away. I realize that doctors may not always be able to do pro bono work but that's what the guidance office is for. If a teacher just take a little time recognizing that kids may have hearing/sight problems that they can recommend a kid be checked by a physician when they are not retarded/disabled/mentally challenged, etc., maybe Asbury Park kids CAN succeed. Just an opinion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: If a kid can take direction from a coach, why can't they succeed otherwise? What's wrong with this picture? Let the coaches TEACH! Teachers get in trouble for yelling or motivating kids...or whacking them on the head... not that all oca Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Grass... ?
I'll just defer to you guys. I'm not a sports fan. I was a science geek in high school. I built my own Heathkit computer when I was 17 and studied music. I turned what I learned about music, electronics and technology into the careers that I have today. I'm also not a financial person, so if it's a good deal for the city, then I'm fine with that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: those kids probably have a better handle on computing than you and me. phones are computers. tons of funds have been thrown into the school already. the field, at the right price, and if there is the money, is a good investment. I love seeing kids in team jackets. better than gang colors. I give them a buck anytime when they have the bucket out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I think I'm having a hard time understanding how a failing school can spend $1.1 million on astroturf to serve the approx 50 players, helpers and cheerleaders out of approx. 600 students. How does this serve the other 550 students? Why not spend that money on laptops and technology, and make a push toward widespread computer literacy? Give each student a laptop and make getting good grades the incentive to use them. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b283@ wrote: I surmise that if a coach can teach a kid how to play football/basketball/baseball or any of the popular European/Caribbean futbol/soccer, there are rules, principles and penalty infringements that even a disadvantaged youth seem to grasp extraordinarily well. A certain structure. Children look up to coaches, ideally as a father or mother figure, they seem to lack otherwise. I wasn't talking about the yelling and abusive language some coaches seem to engage in. Nobody wants a Bear Bryant type in their face. They may be getting enough of that at home. No, today's teacher has to be a life coach and mentor to get through to these kids, even if their living conditions may be afoul, it's no reason for them to not be given the opportunity of a basic education. Basic education does prepare one for higher education, if wanted. When Jim mentioned that one youth said he couldn't read, I thought,why not? Who gave up on him? I blame the parents and the system that allows a child to be passed through because someone refused to follow through on this kid and wasted taxpayer money. He might have been dyslexic, sight problems, hearing problems, or hungry! I'm not a teacher, but unless a kid can see and hear properly, someone is dropping the ball and passing kids to the next grade illegally and depriving him/her of a thorough and efficient education and that teacher and school should come under scrutiny by the local, county and state boards of education. At a club I frequent, a man was trying to choose songs on the jukebox. He came over to me and asked me for assistance. My regular glasses had to be replaced, so I was wearing reading glasses. I realized he couldn't make out the print on the machine, so I said, here, try these. He did. To his surprise, he realized his sight had changed making it difficult for him to read small/fine print. He began laughing because he thought he was going blind. I suggested he see an eye doctor right away. In the meantime, I gave him the glasses. He was overjoyed that he could still read. They were steel-rimmed, so a man or woman could look the same. I had other readers at home, so it was no biggy to me to give them away. I realize that doctors may not always be able to do pro bono work but that's what the guidance office is for. If a teacher just take a little time recognizing that kids may have hearing/sight problems that they can recommend a kid be checked by a physician when they are not retarded/disabled/mentally challenged, etc., maybe Asbury Park kids CAN succeed. Just an opinion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: If a kid can take direction from a coach, why can't they succeed otherwise? What's wrong with this picture? Let the coaches TEACH! Teachers get in trouble for yelling or motivating kids...or whacking them on the head... not that all oca Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use
[AsburyPark] Re: Grass... ?
Isn't thinking like that part of the problem? Thinking the worst of AP kids? Yes, I know we have problems, and maybe a bigger effort needs to be made in our community to instill some pride in our children. All of them. Sure, the sports kids have something to be proud of. They are a percentage of a bigger population. If we continue to aim low and think that our kids are a helpless cause then what's the benefit of that? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: How long will those laptops last before they are stolen? Whether its stolen from the school or stolen from the students themselves? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:44:51 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Grass... ? I think I'm having a hard time understanding how a failing school can spend $1.1 million on astroturf to serve the approx 50 players, helpers and cheerleaders out of approx. 600 students. How does this serve the other 550 students? Why not spend that money on laptops and technology, and make a push toward widespread computer literacy? Give each student a laptop and make getting good grades the incentive to use them. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b283@ wrote: I surmise that if a coach can teach a kid how to play football/basketball/baseball or any of the popular European/Caribbean futbol/soccer, there are rules, principles and penalty infringements that even a disadvantaged youth seem to grasp extraordinarily well. A certain structure. Children look up to coaches, ideally as a father or mother figure, they seem to lack otherwise. I wasn't talking about the yelling and abusive language some coaches seem to engage in. Nobody wants a Bear Bryant type in their face. They may be getting enough of that at home. No, today's teacher has to be a life coach and mentor to get through to these kids, even if their living conditions may be afoul, it's no reason for them to not be given the opportunity of a basic education. Basic education does prepare one for higher education, if wanted. When Jim mentioned that one youth said he couldn't read, I thought,why not? Who gave up on him? I blame the parents and the system that allows a child to be passed through because someone refused to follow through on this kid and wasted taxpayer money. He might have been dyslexic, sight problems, hearing problems, or hungry! I'm not a teacher, but unless a kid can see and hear properly, someone is dropping the ball and passing kids to the next grade illegally and depriving him/her of a thorough and efficient education and that teacher and school should come under scrutiny by the local, county and state boards of education. At a club I frequent, a man was trying to choose songs on the jukebox. He came over to me and asked me for assistance. My regular glasses had to be replaced, so I was wearing reading glasses. I realized he couldn't make out the print on the machine, so I said, here, try these. He did. To his surprise, he realized his sight had changed making it difficult for him to read small/fine print. He began laughing because he thought he was going blind. I suggested he see an eye doctor right away. In the meantime, I gave him the glasses. He was overjoyed that he could still read. They were steel-rimmed, so a man or woman could look the same. I had other readers at home, so it was no biggy to me to give them away. I realize that doctors may not always be able to do pro bono work but that's what the guidance office is for. If a teacher just take a little time recognizing that kids may have hearing/sight problems that they can recommend a kid be checked by a physician when they are not retarded/disabled/mentally challenged, etc., maybe Asbury Park kids CAN succeed. Just an opinion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: If a kid can take direction from a coach, why can't they succeed otherwise? What's wrong with this picture? Let the coaches TEACH! Teachers get in trouble for yelling or motivating kids...or whacking them on the head... not that all oca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
[AsburyPark] Re: Grass... ?
I see it too, and that's my point. If the city focuses on the success of just the sports participants and not the population at large, nothing will change. If the focus is on the minority number of students playing football, then the education system is aiming low. If the parents aren't doing their job, maybe they need to go back to school. I think AP kids need more to be proud of then what they can do on the sports field. Like going home and saying look mom, I got straight A's That's what it was like when I went to high school. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Listen, I see these kids leaving the high school EVERDAY, Monday thru Friday. They walk through my yard, drop their trash, curse, smoke blunts and bully younger kids. I see this VERY day, this is the majority of the kids I see on a daily basis. There are a few kids, who do not partake in such things, but they are very few. I do not feel as if behavior amongst these kids will change until the parents are more involved. I do not believe a majority of the parents in AP are involved with their childrens education (or day to day lives for that matter), I can't, not based on what I see each day. I asked a young boy yesterday, how he did in his football game as he walked home by himself, the smile this kid got on his face was unbelievable. I don't think anyone ever asked him that beforewhich is extremely sad. Worse yet, kid was maybe 6yrs old.so why was an adult not with him? And why was no one from his family at his game? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:19:13 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Grass... ? Isn't thinking like that part of the problem? Thinking the worst of AP kids? Yes, I know we have problems, and maybe a bigger effort needs to be made in our community to instill some pride in our children. All of them. Sure, the sports kids have something to be proud of. They are a percentage of a bigger population. If we continue to aim low and think that our kids are a helpless cause then what's the benefit of that? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: How long will those laptops last before they are stolen? Whether its stolen from the school or stolen from the students themselves? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:44:51 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Grass... ? I think I'm having a hard time understanding how a failing school can spend $1.1 million on astroturf to serve the approx 50 players, helpers and cheerleaders out of approx. 600 students. How does this serve the other 550 students? Why not spend that money on laptops and technology, and make a push toward widespread computer literacy? Give each student a laptop and make getting good grades the incentive to use them. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b283@ wrote: I surmise that if a coach can teach a kid how to play football/basketball/baseball or any of the popular European/Caribbean futbol/soccer, there are rules, principles and penalty infringements that even a disadvantaged youth seem to grasp extraordinarily well. A certain structure. Children look up to coaches, ideally as a father or mother figure, they seem to lack otherwise. I wasn't talking about the yelling and abusive language some coaches seem to engage in. Nobody wants a Bear Bryant type in their face. They may be getting enough of that at home. No, today's teacher has to be a life coach and mentor to get through to these kids, even if their living conditions may be afoul, it's no reason for them to not be given the opportunity of a basic education. Basic education does prepare one for higher education, if wanted. When Jim mentioned that one youth said he couldn't read, I thought,why not? Who gave up on him? I blame the parents and the system that allows a child to be passed through because someone refused to follow through on this kid and wasted taxpayer money. He might have been dyslexic, sight problems, hearing problems, or hungry! I'm not a teacher, but unless a kid can see and hear properly, someone is dropping the ball and passing kids to the next grade illegally and depriving him/her of a thorough and efficient education and that teacher and school should come under scrutiny by the local, county and state boards of education. At a club I frequent, a man was trying to choose songs on the jukebox. He came over to me and asked me for assistance. My regular glasses
[AsburyPark] Downtown paid parking went into effect today
As of today you now have to pay to park downtown. The result? A downtown that looks deserted. One of my Allenhurst friends who normally goes to America's Cup turned right around and headed to Cravings instead. Another friend who lives in Spring Lake and likes America's Cup says she'll she'll also stay local. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
Prior to implementing the paid parking, several Cookman business's were complaining that they weren't getting much traffic because it was hard for the customers to find a place to park. I guess they are going to get a reality check now. As a person who works on Bond street, the reality is that during weekdays, downtown AP is all about residents and employees. And just like what happened in my neighborhood, you'll see residents and employee's parking in the non-metered areas and taking up those residents parking spaces. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I just came back from a quick bike ride and didn't put 2 and 2 together.definitely less cars around Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:38:17 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Downtown paid parking went into effect today As of today you now have to pay to park downtown. The result? A downtown that looks deserted. One of my Allenhurst friends who normally goes to America's Cup turned right around and headed to Cravings instead. Another friend who lives in Spring Lake and likes America's Cup says she'll she'll also stay local. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
Facebook comment from the people at Yoga Basin: challenging for our yoga basin to remain competitive when our students will now pay an additional $2 / class. Since our classes are 1.45min/ time in out = $2/class. Add that up for students taking 3 classes a week = $6 x 52 weeks ... the math is not pretty. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: Prior to implementing the paid parking, several Cookman business's were complaining that they weren't getting much traffic because it was hard for the customers to find a place to park. I guess they are going to get a reality check now. As a person who works on Bond street, the reality is that during weekdays, downtown AP is all about residents and employees. And just like what happened in my neighborhood, you'll see residents and employee's parking in the non-metered areas and taking up those residents parking spaces. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: I just came back from a quick bike ride and didn't put 2 and 2 together.definitely less cars around Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:38:17 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Downtown paid parking went into effect today As of today you now have to pay to park downtown. The result? A downtown that looks deserted. One of my Allenhurst friends who normally goes to America's Cup turned right around and headed to Cravings instead. Another friend who lives in Spring Lake and likes America's Cup says she'll she'll also stay local. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
I parked out front because my car was full of musical equipment and I decided to take a chance and see what would happen. I'm not going to buy the pass. Maybe when they analyze revenues after a few months they'll realize that nobody will be paying to park on my block between Sept and May. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: Cookman midweek is tough. If the spaces were filled with residents and employees then nothing lost. Parking was definitely a problem on weekends. If someone has a problem spending $1 to park then you don't need them as a customer. (BTW, you can buy 1 minutes, or 30 minutes). That'll be the same cheapskate that buys a cup of coffee and sits there for 2 hours. Parking is NEVER free. It always has a cost. BTW Hinge, did they suspend parking on your block? I saw your VW in a numbered spot in front of your house the other day, or did you buy ht parking pass? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Prior to implementing the paid parking, several Cookman business's were complaining that they weren't getting much traffic because it was hard for the customers to find a place to park. I guess they are going to get a reality check now. As a person who works on Bond street, the reality is that during weekdays, downtown AP is all about residents and employees. And just like what happened in my neighborhood, you'll see residents and employee's parking in the non-metered areas and taking up those residents parking spaces. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: I just came back from a quick bike ride and didn't put 2 and 2 together.definitely less cars around Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:38:17 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Downtown paid parking went into effect today As of today you now have to pay to park downtown. The result? A downtown that looks deserted. One of my Allenhurst friends who normally goes to America's Cup turned right around and headed to Cravings instead. Another friend who lives in Spring Lake and likes America's Cup says she'll she'll also stay local. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
Time will tell. Most of my coworkers and I here on Bond street ride our bikes to work. I mostly shop in AP via bike too. I heard many negative comments from locals today, but like most things it takes time to adapt. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote: It could be good for business for other reasons too. For example, i never shop at Lush because there's no parking and the nature of what i'm buying is heavy. I don't mind paying a dollar to park and for sure if there's parking i would always shop there and support the local businesses. Same with most of the stores downtown - i would even buy the permit if i felt it worthwhile so i can have the convenience of shopping where i want to. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: ** Some places paid parking is actually great for business, in regards to turnover, I just don't know facts about what types of business it is good/bad for Time will tell Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:43:05 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today Cookman midweek is tough. If the spaces were filled with residents and employees then nothing lost. Parking was definitely a problem on weekends. If someone has a problem spending $1 to park then you don't need them as a customer. (BTW, you can buy 1 minutes, or 30 minutes). That'll be the same cheapskate that buys a cup of coffee and sits there for 2 hours. Parking is NEVER free. It always has a cost. BTW Hinge, did they suspend parking on your block? I saw your VW in a numbered spot in front of your house the other day, or did you buy ht parking pass? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Prior to implementing the paid parking, several Cookman business's were complaining that they weren't getting much traffic because it was hard for the customers to find a place to park. I guess they are going to get a reality check now. As a person who works on Bond street, the reality is that during weekdays, downtown AP is all about residents and employees. And just like what happened in my neighborhood, you'll see residents and employee's parking in the non-metered areas and taking up those residents parking spaces. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: I just came back from a quick bike ride and didn't put 2 and 2 together.definitely less cars around Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:38:17 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Downtown paid parking went into effect today As of today you now have to pay to park downtown. The result? A downtown that looks deserted. One of my Allenhurst friends who normally goes to America's Cup turned right around and headed to Cravings instead. Another friend who lives in Spring Lake and likes America's Cup says she'll she'll also stay local. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
One of my downtown friends just texted me and said downtown looks like a ghost town tonight. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: As long as you continue to jam apartments and condos in using smart ridiculous calculation for a packed downtown like asbury you will continue he to have a parking rp lemon. That's why towns have zoning ordinances based on type of business is how much parking you need. Its been a problem and will continue to be a problem. No one wants to pay more rent or more taxes but wants publicity loans police and snow plowingand customers. Lots of places give a coupon in place es like Middletown. Or one hour free parking. Does the downtown have 15you minutes spots like along the ocean. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why me? BOE to Spend $1.1 million on fake turf....
I think this is just going to stimulate more negative opinions about AP. I appreciate the role of sports in a students life, but in my opinion the AP school system should put their money and efforts into making successful students rather than athletes. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: Great teams can win on grass. Personally like football on grass. Mud. I got done last week fixing my lawn. It cost me $60 to rent a core aerator and about 3 hours of time. Then for the hell of it, I spent $80 on sod seed and I'll probably still splurge another $75 to pick up another pallet of sod so my I don't have answer to my wife. I guess I'm odd around here. I am one of the few people I know that cuts their own grass. Up to this year, i even did the fertilizing. My riding mower is probably 12 years old now. I cut my lawn on usually my rentals as i purchased lawn mowers for my tenant's but they really enjoy watching me do it, before I go to work and they go back to sleep. Grass. It gives people jobs and keeps all things equal. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why me? BOE to Spend $1.1 million on fake turf....
Like I said, I appreciate the value of sports, but globally speaking, American students are falling way behind. Not everybody in school plays sports. Wouldn't it be a better investment to focus more on education considering what kinds of jobs are going to be available for future adults? There's plenty of jobs in the tech field and a lack of American's to fill them. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I think this is just going to stimulate more negative opinions about AP. I appreciate the role of sports in a students life, but in my opinion the AP school system should put their money and efforts into making successful students rather than athletes. Some of the greatest lessons in life I learned on the football field of a great high school team (ranked #6 in the US in my senior year). Sports have changed many people's lives for the better. More often than not, a person really involved on a high level with a good caliber sports team in high school will have little time for anything else. Keep kids interested in sports, theater or anything that gives them direction. That's the key. I know guys that would have been in jail had they not gotten involved in sports. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Great teams can win on grass. Personally like football on grass. Mud. I got done last week fixing my lawn. It cost me $60 to rent a core aerator and about 3 hours of time. Then for the hell of it, I spent $80 on sod seed and I'll probably still splurge another $75 to pick up another pallet of sod so my I don't have answer to my wife. I guess I'm odd around here. I am one of the few people I know that cuts their own grass. Up to this year, i even did the fertilizing. My riding mower is probably 12 years old now. I cut my lawn on usually my rentals as i purchased lawn mowers for my tenant's but they really enjoy watching me do it, before I go to work and they go back to sleep. Grass. It gives people jobs and keeps all things equal. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why me? BOE to Spend $1.1 million on fake turf....
In 2010 the state average for Language Arts Literacy was 87%. Asbury Parks score - 48% The state average for Math was 74% in 2010. Asbury Park - 19% How is spending a million dollars on a football field going to help that? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: Like I said, I appreciate the value of sports, but globally speaking, American students are falling way behind. Not everybody in school plays sports. Wouldn't it be a better investment to focus more on education considering what kinds of jobs are going to be available for future adults? There's plenty of jobs in the tech field and a lack of American's to fill them. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I think this is just going to stimulate more negative opinions about AP. I appreciate the role of sports in a students life, but in my opinion the AP school system should put their money and efforts into making successful students rather than athletes. Some of the greatest lessons in life I learned on the football field of a great high school team (ranked #6 in the US in my senior year). Sports have changed many people's lives for the better. More often than not, a person really involved on a high level with a good caliber sports team in high school will have little time for anything else. Keep kids interested in sports, theater or anything that gives them direction. That's the key. I know guys that would have been in jail had they not gotten involved in sports. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Great teams can win on grass. Personally like football on grass. Mud. I got done last week fixing my lawn. It cost me $60 to rent a core aerator and about 3 hours of time. Then for the hell of it, I spent $80 on sod seed and I'll probably still splurge another $75 to pick up another pallet of sod so my I don't have answer to my wife. I guess I'm odd around here. I am one of the few people I know that cuts their own grass. Up to this year, i even did the fertilizing. My riding mower is probably 12 years old now. I cut my lawn on usually my rentals as i purchased lawn mowers for my tenant's but they really enjoy watching me do it, before I go to work and they go back to sleep. Grass. It gives people jobs and keeps all things equal. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Values and more...
I'll stick with my opinion that one simple and large (iconic) Ferris wheel would serve both adults and children. Put a large Ferris wheel on that empty lot, and my gut feeling is you'd have a winner. How great would it be to have a view of AP from up above? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote: or my personal favourite - drunk adults with kids... it would be great if we could have some more activies that the kids could do while we sit at one of the bars.. business for everyone. *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* Claire Davids Managing Partner i-Parcel LLC Tel: +12015491502 Mobile: +16464316239 www.i-parcel.com On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:18 PM, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: ** you don't need a million rides - but something to kill an hour or two for those that ARE in the near area . Nothing wrong with a couple LITTLE real kiddie rides. The splash park works, the mini-golf works then nothing wrong with a couple boats that go around in a circle with a bell or a couple cars that go around in a circle. Cheap, simple quiet fun. A carousel solves two issues - one keeping a bit of AP here while providing some entertainment for drunk adults or for adults with kids. good, clean fun and opens the casino to other ventures. shame the city couldn't have a uez fund to lease and operate at least that section of the casino. I'd make a deal with MM. How much do they pay (or partners) in taxes for the parking lots? Are they paying taxes on those lots - or is it carried as vacant land? A thought. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Values and more...
I get the Carousel question all the time, particularly from friends who spent time here as a child. I love that Revision has made good use of an abandoned space, but it sure would be nice to see a view of a beautiful Carousel reflecting off of the lake on a beautiful summer evening. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Everyday I spent on the boardwalk/beach this summer, I had at least one person ask me where the Carousel was.when I told them, the look on their faces was sad Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:19:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just pick your time period. The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Values and more...
Put a Ferris wheel in the empty space between 1st and 2nd Ave. It would have a great view, especially during Stone Pony Summer Stage shows, and it would look great in photos of the same. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, colonialjohn johnmenc@... wrote: I have to admit ... the last (10) or so responses were great. A Carousel in the Casino Area but will the Revision Theater find a permanenet home? They are going strong there now ... I have been to EVERY show as alot of locals. Its been great. A Ferris Wheel would be a winner but at what location? It seems the area north of the Convention Center may be next testing ground with some new ventures? Each season for the last (5) seasons I have lived here part-time and the beach crowd has grown exponentially. Some businesses have failed but some have survived that are not food related. Of course alot of traffic from Ocean Grove which really has no good mix of restaurants or night life. That new breakfast place Toast has been a hit ... ask any Ocean Grover full time in this town if he/she has not heard of it or even been there. That Beerfest last weekend reached its maximum allowable capacity for the event of 2,200 people and sold out. I was shut out trying to get in there from the 6-10PM session. Probably with another 500 or so people like myself wanting to get inside this event. I think what makes AP unique now is the current diversification that few other beach resorts can match even at this time. We can only hope this success can spread WEST into the city season after season and all this revenue can revitilize areas TO THE WEST. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Past sat night live with ben stiller he did a Springsteen bit. Mentions the abandoned ferris wheel as part of his bruce bit. Check out on nbc or hulu --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I get the Carousel question all the time, particularly from friends who spent time here as a child. I love that Revision has made good use of an abandoned space, but it sure would be nice to see a view of a beautiful Carousel reflecting off of the lake on a beautiful summer evening. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Everyday I spent on the boardwalk/beach this summer, I had at least one person ask me where the Carousel was.when I told them, the look on their faces was sad Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:19:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices
[AsburyPark] Re: Values and more...
Why not just put a big Ferris wheel there? Imagine seeing a Stone Pony Summer Stage show from that vantage point, having an amazing view of the ocean and Asbury Park? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: Nice summary Werner of years of postingsand then some. One thing never discussed and maybe should be considered Permitting a NEW PAVILION directly across from the Pony. It would occupy the blank space between 1st and 2nd ave - leaving intact current green space. As a condition, it must contain restooms for the south end of the BW (recall, there were bathrooms in 1st ave pav that were eliminated...) - therefore eliminating the container bathrooms (which don't do much as far as looks). The new building should be permitted for 2 floors , but not a box - and as a replacement for the temp pop-ups. If you want, you may call this a location for a possible public/private pool (missing in ap) and as a beachfront, a family public/private pool is indeed missing. One can only look at the splash park as family draw and move beyond we need another bar on the boardwalk spot.. dd Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Art superstar Shepard Fairey is currently decorating the 8th Ave. pavillion
The pavilion north of Convention Hall. His art looks great there, and it's getting national attention. Looking forward to see more from him around the city. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@... wrote: Where is this happening... There is no 8th Ave Pavilion Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: As part of this weekends ATP festival, artist Shepard Fairey is going to be working around the city. He's currently working at the 8th Ave. pavillion. If you don't recognize the name, he's the person behind the iconic red and blue Obama posters. He got his start doing Andre The Giant Has a Posse stickers and street art. He's also done many album covers, including one for a band called Super Heavy which is a Mick Jagger project. Go check it out if you are interested. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Shepard Fairey brings artistic talents to Asbury music fest
ASBURY PARK Shepard Fairey, the prominent graphic artist, is in town this week, stenciling his iconic designs and mounting posters on the beachfront Sunset Pavilion and Asbury Lanes buildings, all part of the independent I'll Be Your Mirror music festival presented by All Tomorrow's Parties Friday through Sunday. They're all tributes to music and the influence that music has had on me, Fairey said Tuesday afternoon while stencil painting record cover designs on the Ocean Avenue side of the boarded-up pavilion across from the Berkeley Oceanfront Hotel. He said the message of the megaphone in the record cover designs is free speech; great distances. He mentioned many performers that are important to him in his own work, among them Neal Young, The Clash, Bob Dylan provacative poliltics delivered with pleasurable art, he said. On the Asbury Lanes building on Fourth Avenue, he planned to create a punk icon mural. Fairey, 41, is based in Los Angeles and is a street artist who became known early on for his Andre the Giant Has a Posse sticker campaign, which then evolved into his Obey Giant campaign. He attracted mainstream prominence with his Barack Obama Hope poster. The weekend music festival centered at Convention Hall but will be at several venues. It will feature dozens of performers including Public Enemy and Portishead, which is curating Saturday and Sunday's events. Fairey will be a participant through his murals, performing a DJ set Sunday night at Asbury Lanes and participating in a music-related imagery exhibition with the New York-based Jonathan LeVine Gallery on the boardwalk. Beachfront developer Madison Marquette owns the Sunset Pavilion, which is still to be renovated as part of the boardwalk revival. The city approved the murals being stencil-painted on the building without going through a more time-consuming process because they are temporary murals, City Manager Terence Reidy said. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Art superstar Shepard Fairey is currently decorating the 8th Ave. pavillion
As part of this weekends ATP festival, artist Shepard Fairey is going to be working around the city. He's currently working at the 8th Ave. pavillion. If you don't recognize the name, he's the person behind the iconic red and blue Obama posters. He got his start doing Andre The Giant Has a Posse stickers and street art. He's also done many album covers, including one for a band called Super Heavy which is a Mick Jagger project. Go check it out if you are interested. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] A couple of notes from last nights council meeting
1)The confrontation between Rita Moreno (sp?) and the council was amazingly entertaining 2)The city made more than $800k in parking revenue this past summer 3)Live Nation/MM have something huge planned at the North Beach next year 4)The parking plan sounds like it's being modified, but no details 5)The city is dismayed by the condition of some of our streets and are pushing for speedy repairs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A couple of notes from last nights council meeting
Very little was revealed about #3 other than it being a rather huge festival on the beach, with major acts to be announced soon if the city decides to approve it. Their (Loffredo) concern is what compensation the city will receive. As for #1 - it started with Reidy making a statement about Rita making false and disrespectful statements about the council thru letters to the editor at The Coaster. She than took her 3 minutes at the mic to call council members liars and confront the mayor about the cost of his health insurance plan. It was pretty tense and awkward. Every time she's spoken at a council meeting she seems like the most miserable person in AP. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Any specifics on #3? Anything Live Nation is involved with scares me, and anything MM has their hands on really scares me And if you wouldn't mind going into #1 a bit more that would be great (slow day at the office, could use a laugh) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:11:11 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] A couple of notes from last nights council meeting 1)The confrontation between Rita Moreno (sp?) and the council was amazingly entertaining 2)The city made more than $800k in parking revenue this past summer 3)Live Nation/MM have something huge planned at the North Beach next year 4)The parking plan sounds like it's being modified, but no details 5)The city is dismayed by the condition of some of our streets and are pushing for speedy repairs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A couple of notes from last nights council meeting
I also learned a bit more about the upcoming ATP festival. It's going to incorparate Bradley Park as well as a portion of the boardwalk, CH and The Paramount. The organization has bought out The Berkley for the entire weekend. The outdoor portion will run from noon until midnight all 3 days. I got a ticket for Sunday, featuring Portishead and Public Enemy! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Thank you Hinge I'm quite curious about the festivalI guess we'll have to wait and see Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:31:36 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: A couple of notes from last nights council meeting Very little was revealed about #3 other than it being a rather huge festival on the beach, with major acts to be announced soon if the city decides to approve it. Their (Loffredo) concern is what compensation the city will receive. As for #1 - it started with Reidy making a statement about Rita making false and disrespectful statements about the council thru letters to the editor at The Coaster. She than took her 3 minutes at the mic to call council members liars and confront the mayor about the cost of his health insurance plan. It was pretty tense and awkward. Every time she's spoken at a council meeting she seems like the most miserable person in AP. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Any specifics on #3? Anything Live Nation is involved with scares me, and anything MM has their hands on really scares me And if you wouldn't mind going into #1 a bit more that would be great (slow day at the office, could use a laugh) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:11:11 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] A couple of notes from last nights council meeting 1)The confrontation between Rita Moreno (sp?) and the council was amazingly entertaining 2)The city made more than $800k in parking revenue this past summer 3)Live Nation/MM have something huge planned at the North Beach next year 4)The parking plan sounds like it's being modified, but no details 5)The city is dismayed by the condition of some of our streets and are pushing for speedy repairs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A couple of notes from last nights council meeting
Basically Reidy said to her come to us directly if you have any ideas that will benefit the city, rather than writing letters to the editor trashing everything the city does. She came across very poorly last night. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: As for #1 - it started with Reidy making a statement about Rita making false and disrespectful statements about the council thru letters to the editor at The Coaster. She than took her 3 minutes at the mic to call council members liars and confront the mayor about the cost of his health insurance plan. It was pretty tense and awkward. Every time she's spoken at a council meeting she seems like the most miserable person in AP. I don't know about the statements she may or may not have made. I like Rita and she has been a vocal critic of the city for years, much of which I supported. But after a while it becomes the same old story, same old bitching. Health insurance, etc. Its time to move on. There's not a lot of glory or recompense in being a council member or mayor in Asbury. I think you need your head examined actually to run for it because you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. A lot of times you have to make tough decisions that you don't even like. But a lot of the complaining is the same old thing. Petty. There is no magic wand to cure our ills. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...
Unfortunately, Convention Hall is one of the worst sounding concert venues in the country. That's probably the main reason for the sparse amount of shows presented there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@... wrote: That would not be the best option. ConHall and Paramount are already used for what they were designed for. Certainly not to their full potential, however the space is already taken up. The storefronts are in use and there is little if any space left for use that would not negatively impact the Hall or Theater The Casino is the blank slate for what you are suggesting - its a big enpty shell at this point and the arena rebuild would return the needed multifunction venue currently lacking. An Asbury Park museum, carousel, arena, food, shops etc. Roller/Ice skating ? For decages I have said the Casino complex is the key to revitalizing the beachfront - it is the front door to the rest of the boardwalk to the south. http://www.scribd.com/doc/39802642/Asbury-Park-Historian-Baumgartner It remains unrealized. Asbury Park needs to stop being myopic. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: music wise, CH should then be considered the real spot to be musuem, new SP stage etc... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] New gang tags appearing around the city
Has anybody noticed the new gang tags that have been appearing around the city recently? At Library Square Park, somebody spray painted MDP at each of the trash containers at the 4 corners of the park. What is MDP? MDP is short for Murder Dem Pussies This same tag is spreading fast. There's a new Latin restaurant on Bond street that opened about a week ago, and somebody tagged it in the past few days. This is not good news, because it signifies a subset of a gang staking out territory. If you observe anybody doing this, call the PD immediately. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New gang tags appearing around the city
Bergh between AP Ave. and 1st has always been a hotspot. Lot's of discarded condoms laying in the guitar. The Delmonte Hotel across from me seems to be becoming a hot spot for drug dealing. There's an older guy who's been making drug runs on his vintage bicycle recently, and he's blatant about it. I'd love to see a squad car camp out in front of that place for a few weeks. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Same here, although I don't gives cars who park on my side street 5mins, they get 2mins I'm on a corner lot, and they like to bring their tricks around when it is dark, we have called so many times for that, we have noticed the johns/tricks have moved to Pine Street (btwn 5th and Sunset) so now we're calling if we see them there when we walk our dogs Its never ending, but we've been calling less for the cars latelymaybe they are getting the message Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:52:35 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: New gang tags appearing around the city exactly what you saw. If you stand in front of my house for more than 5 minutes I am on the phone with the cops. Let god sort them out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@ wrote: My husband and I were walking down Emory between 6th and 7th a few weeks back with my 5 year old. A black SUV stopped in the middle of 6th on the corner of Emory and a guy jumped out right in fromt of us and tucked something into the back of his pants and when running purposefully down the road toward the beach. The SUV screeched off. Would you call the police for something like that? What would you tell them? *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* Claire Davids Managing Partner i-Parcel LLC Tel: +12015491502 Mobile: +16464316239 www.i-parcel.com On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:39 PM, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@wrote: ** Thanks, now I feel better! Demonstrating one of our town negatives :) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: It is my understanding that this a Bloods Sect, they run out of AP and Neptune I can find out more from a friend My fiance had 4 guys taken in the other day. They parked a car at the corner of my street (in front of my house), the 4 guys (not kids) got out, placed the hoods on their sweatshirts up on their heads and began walking to the HS. When she saw this, she called the police, as it was 1pm on a Thursday They were from Neptune and looking for 2kids from AP. Car was towed the next day. Moral is, call the police if it looks suspicious Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:12:56 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] New gang tags appearing around the city Has anybody noticed the new gang tags that have been appearing around the city recently? At Library Square Park, somebody spray painted MDP at each of the trash containers at the 4 corners of the park. What is MDP? MDP is short for Murder Dem Pussies This same tag is spreading fast. There's a new Latin restaurant on Bond street that opened about a week ago, and somebody tagged it in the past few days. This is not good news, because it signifies a subset of a gang staking out territory. If you observe anybody doing this, call the PD immediately. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?
I live a block away from the Stone Pony and have no problem with the Summer Stage events, other than unruly patrons wandering around residential neighborhoods. On the other hand, the Sunday night dance parties at Paradise are incredibly loud and they aren't always very good neighbors about it. I'm a professional sound engineer, and I measured the volume in my living room from one of these events at 90 db in my living room. They are also required to stop these shows at 10 pm, and on several occasions have gone on past 10:15 pm. That being said, I've heard that a condo development was slated for the lot's on the west side of Kingsley between 1st and AP Ave. I can't see how that's going to work out on the boarder of an entertainment zone. The Stone Pony in another location simply isn't The Stone Pony. Developers who want to relocate it, or portions of it are just marginalizing it to a brand name. Do we really want the Stone Pony to become the Original Ray's Pizza of AP? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@... wrote: It's no question that the summer stage should move eventually (personally I hope sooner than later) and the rebuilt Casino Arena portion would make a great Stone Pony Theatre where large Stone Pony concerts could be held. But the original building should never be considered for relocation. My concern is that the wording in the report seems to state the Stone Pony in general should be moved. On page 13 of the summary, points four and five of the Committee's reccomendation: 4. The existing requirement that The Stone Pony remain in its present location should be removed. 5. The Stone Pony building is shown as a conditional building on the Development Control Plan, maximum building heights should be established for this area. This instantly sounds (at least to me) as if the building is not significant to warrant being incorporated into future development on the site, and should be removed from the plan. I'm just saying this as an outside observer (with the highest respect for all of the work that has gone into this). If the Stone Pony building itself is important, it should specifically be designated as a seperate entity from the Summer Stage so that there is no confusion as to what can happen to it down the road. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Well since the Pony and all that property is privately owned we (you, me, city) cant tell them what to do with it. But I think its our recommendation that the summer stage move eventually. I see no problem with interior performance spaces on Ocean with residences if you soundproof them. Personally I would not want to see the physical Pony moved. I am even ok with leaving the summer stage there but I cant see how you can build residences next to it. These are my personal opinions. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: So is leaving the Pony as is, for indoor entertainment (non summer stage usage) and building a Summer stage on the casino site (strictly outdoor usage) an option being discussed? Or is the Pony not going to be used as a music venue at all, and all Pony entertainment being moved to Casino site? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:17:41 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think it was the concerns I had which is the incompatibility of intense entertainment and residential uses on the same site(s). The City learned its lesson as well on that with Cookman. That's why proper zoning specifies uses etc in certain areas. In the original plan, the southern end of Ocean Ave is supposed to be the heart of intense entertainment uses. In reality, those uses are allowed almost anywhere in the waterfront area under the current plan. So if we agree that the southern end and especially the end of Cookman and Asbury and Ocean is what I called ground zero, then you have to consider what's compatible and what's not. I voiced concern that if you wanted to have intense entertainment uses (like the Pony's Summer Stage) on Ocean Ave, how could you develop residences above these uses on the same blocks? And if you agreed then that would preclude (in my mind) residences on most, if not all of the blocks between Ocean and Kingsley. That of course was not going to be given up by the developer. And so keeping in mind that you can soundproof etc (expensive) I think we are recommending that the Pony building stay and be incorporated in developments (similar to what you suggest) but that the summer stage be moved to the
[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?
Could you fix that email address? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: Please send your comments in in writing. You are preaching to the choir. The official venue is The committee's summary was to be available on the city website: cityofasburypark.com. The planning department is seeking additional feedback and comments until Sept. 30. Those comments can be emailed to asburyplanning@... or mailed to Asbury Park City Hall, Attention: WRP Committee, One Municpal Plaza, Asbury Park, 07712. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: It's no question that the summer stage should move eventually (personally I hope sooner than later) and the rebuilt Casino Arena portion would make a great Stone Pony Theatre where large Stone Pony concerts could be held. But the original building should never be considered for relocation. My concern is that the wording in the report seems to state the Stone Pony in general should be moved. On page 13 of the summary, points four and five of the Committee's reccomendation: 4. The existing requirement that The Stone Pony remain in its present location should be removed. 5. The Stone Pony building is shown as a conditional building on the Development Control Plan, maximum building heights should be established for this area. This instantly sounds (at least to me) as if the building is not significant to warrant being incorporated into future development on the site, and should be removed from the plan. I'm just saying this as an outside observer (with the highest respect for all of the work that has gone into this). If the Stone Pony building itself is important, it should specifically be designated as a seperate entity from the Summer Stage so that there is no confusion as to what can happen to it down the road. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Well since the Pony and all that property is privately owned we (you, me, city) cant tell them what to do with it. But I think its our recommendation that the summer stage move eventually. I see no problem with interior performance spaces on Ocean with residences if you soundproof them. Personally I would not want to see the physical Pony moved. I am even ok with leaving the summer stage there but I cant see how you can build residences next to it. These are my personal opinions. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: So is leaving the Pony as is, for indoor entertainment (non summer stage usage) and building a Summer stage on the casino site (strictly outdoor usage) an option being discussed? Or is the Pony not going to be used as a music venue at all, and all Pony entertainment being moved to Casino site? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:17:41 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think it was the concerns I had which is the incompatibility of intense entertainment and residential uses on the same site(s). The City learned its lesson as well on that with Cookman. That's why proper zoning specifies uses etc in certain areas. In the original plan, the southern end of Ocean Ave is supposed to be the heart of intense entertainment uses. In reality, those uses are allowed almost anywhere in the waterfront area under the current plan. So if we agree that the southern end and especially the end of Cookman and Asbury and Ocean is what I called ground zero, then you have to consider what's compatible and what's not. I voiced concern that if you wanted to have intense entertainment uses (like the Pony's Summer Stage) on Ocean Ave, how could you develop residences above these uses on the same blocks? And if you agreed then that would preclude (in my mind) residences on most, if not all of the blocks between Ocean and Kingsley. That of course was not going to be given up by the developer. And so keeping in mind that you can soundproof etc (expensive) I think we are recommending that the Pony building stay and be incorporated in developments (similar to what you suggest) but that the summer stage be moved to the demolished Casino site. What the committee is recommending is that entertainment uses become less intense along Ocean as you head north and to make the most intense uses be at Ground Zero. Reasonable I think. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: Is there a reason or clarification as to why the Stone
[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?
Thanks Dan. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: asburyplanningatgmaildotcom --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: The committee's summary was to be available on the city website: cityofasburypark.com. The planning department is seeking additional feedback and comments until Sept. 30. Those comments can be emailed to asburyplanning@gmail. mailto:asburyplanning@ com mailto:asburyplanning@ or mailed to Asbury Park City Hall, Attention: WRP Committee, One Municpal Plaza, Asbury Park, 07712. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Could you fix that email address? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Please send your comments in in writing. You are preaching to the choir. The official venue is The committee's summary was to be available on the city website: cityofasburypark.com. The planning department is seeking additional feedback and comments until Sept. 30. Those comments can be emailed to asburyplanning@ or mailed to Asbury Park City Hall, Attention: WRP Committee, One Municpal Plaza, Asbury Park, 07712. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: It's no question that the summer stage should move eventually (personally I hope sooner than later) and the rebuilt Casino Arena portion would make a great Stone Pony Theatre where large Stone Pony concerts could be held. But the original building should never be considered for relocation. My concern is that the wording in the report seems to state the Stone Pony in general should be moved. On page 13 of the summary, points four and five of the Committee's reccomendation: 4. The existing requirement that The Stone Pony remain in its present location should be removed. 5. The Stone Pony building is shown as a conditional building on the Development Control Plan, maximum building heights should be established for this area. This instantly sounds (at least to me) as if the building is not significant to warrant being incorporated into future development on the site, and should be removed from the plan. I'm just saying this as an outside observer (with the highest respect for all of the work that has gone into this). If the Stone Pony building itself is important, it should specifically be designated as a seperate entity from the Summer Stage so that there is no confusion as to what can happen to it down the road. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Well since the Pony and all that property is privately owned we (you, me, city) cant tell them what to do with it. But I think its our recommendation that the summer stage move eventually. I see no problem with interior performance spaces on Ocean with residences if you soundproof them. Personally I would not want to see the physical Pony moved. I am even ok with leaving the summer stage there but I cant see how you can build residences next to it. These are my personal opinions. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: So is leaving the Pony as is, for indoor entertainment (non summer stage usage) and building a Summer stage on the casino site (strictly outdoor usage) an option being discussed? Or is the Pony not going to be used as a music venue at all, and all Pony entertainment being moved to Casino site? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:17:41 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think it was the concerns I had which is the incompatibility of intense entertainment and residential uses on the same site(s). The City learned its lesson as well on that with Cookman. That's why proper zoning specifies uses etc in certain areas. In the original plan, the southern end of Ocean Ave is supposed to be the heart of intense entertainment uses. In reality, those uses are allowed almost anywhere in the waterfront area under the current plan. So if we agree that the southern end and especially the end of Cookman and Asbury and Ocean is what I called ground zero, then you have to consider what's compatible and what's not. I voiced concern that if you wanted to have intense entertainment uses (like the Pony's Summer Stage) on Ocean Ave, how could you develop residences above these uses on the same blocks? And if you agreed then that would preclude (in my mind) residences on most, if not all of the blocks between Ocean and Kingsley
[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking
Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday. Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this topic), what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley? My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st Ave between Bergh and Kingsley, on any day, at any time between now and Memorial Day. You will see what looks like an abandoned street. Absolutely ZERO demand. Does this make sense to anybody? I have a friend coming to visit Friday night to play Scrabble. She has 2 choices - pay $2 or $3 to park out front, or park in the dark around the corner, or on the 300 block. Thoughts? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: From NYT Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/clyde-haberman/ Not to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when Manhattan's last old-time parking meter was yanked down on Monday, it meant the end of a symbolic target for some rebellious spirits. [The Day] The Day http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/category/the-day/ Clyde Haberman offers his take on the news. To them, parking meters represent an infringement of their freedom of movement. Did anyone in the Old West make a cowboy pay to tie up his horse outside the saloon? Nor is this solely an American notion. In Australia, the No Parking Meters Party http://noparkingmetersparty.org/ came into being a few years ago, running candidates in state elections in New South Wales with a slogan that the basis of democracy is non-dictated policy. Writing about the final curtain http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/nyregion/uprooting-the-old-familiar-p\ arking-meter.html for the parking meter in Manhattan, 60 years to the day after the first one was installed, my colleague Michael M. Grynbaum alluded on Monday to the 1967 film Cool Hand Luke http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=EE05E7DF1738E260BC4A53DFB767\ 838C679EDE . In its opening scene, the title character, played by Paul Newman, is arrested and dispatched to a prison road gang for drunkenly lopping off the heads of meters with a pipe cutter. Back in 1967, some people in the New York theater where I saw it cheered as Luke went from meter to meter, methodically decapitating each one. To them, it wasn't an act of vandalism. It was a free spirit's rebellion against those in power, by attacking one of their more soulless creations. Perhaps those same people would have pumped their fists joyfully had they witnessed the uprooting of Manhattan's last single-space meter from its post on Frederick Douglass Boulevard in Harlem. Not that meters have disappeared from the city. Hardly. Tens of thousands remain in other boroughs. But they are doomed, too. In a year or so, the city's Transportation Department expects multispace Muni-Meters to be the rule everywhere. The relationship between some New Yorkers and their parking spaces can run deep, even as the city becomes ever more bicycle conscious perhaps especially as the city becomes more bike conscious. You don't have to own a car to understand that. I haven't owned one in 33 years. Yet an available parking spot right in front of my apartment building is so alluring that it almost makes me want to rush off to buy something to fill the space. Throughout Manhattan and in parts of other boroughs, the hunt for a perfect spot, one where a driver may leave the car for days without fear of a summons, is no less an obsession than the pursuit of the white whale was for Ahab. Politicians certainly understand this. It helps explain why, over the years, they have steadily expanded the exemptions to the alternate-side parking rules, usually in the name of paying tribute to some religious or ethnic group. The Transportation Department now recognizes 32 holidays http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/motorist/scrintro.shtml#calendar2011 , with a total of 42 days, when the rules are suspended and sanitation trucks are thus unable to sweep. It is one of New York's peculiarities that the chosen method for honoring various constituencies is to leave the streets dirty. With a run of Jewish, Roman Catholic, Muslim, Hindu and legal holidays upon us, there will be a 44-day stretch, from Sept. 29 to Nov. 11, during which alternate-side parking regulations will be lifted one-third of the time. For me, the rebel's romantic concept of parking meters as an enemy no longer holds, if it ever did. An opposite thought is more dominant: Why is public space, a most precious commodity in this city, allowed to be used as a private storage area? Years ago, I asked in a column if it would be all right for a New Yorker in a crowded apartment to put a chest of drawers on wheels and leave it at curbside
[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking
designated area - That's been my argument all along. Thanks for reinforcing that. If I bought the $30 permit this summer, it would have been useless during Summer Stage events, or busy weekend days. All it would do would hold me hostage in a parking space on my block. My next door neighbor, who bought the permit, experienced this every weekend. He'd park out front of his home, and if he left for a few hours (like most of us) to do grocery shopping or anything else, he'd return to our block being completely filled. The permit states that it's only good for the block on which it's issued. So this leaves the permit holder to park a block or more away. Meanwhile, most of the spaces on Bergh and on the 300 block of 1st were being used by boardwalk employees. This is exactly what I predicted would happen. In my opinion, the city did little or no research into this issue. Perhaps they could've done a parking survey to see how many people actually own cars on the affected blocks. On mine, that amounts to 3 cars in the summer, 2 in the winter. All the other residents on my block live in housing that includes a parking lot. Meanwhile, they installed a parking sign post at my curb 6 months ago. It still stands there, without a sign. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I do not believe in paid parking for residents unless it is a $15 year round permit just like every other city in NJ does, pay for a sticker, be able to park in a designated area Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:39:26 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday. Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this topic), what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley? My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st Ave between Bergh and Kingsley, on any day, at any time between now and Memorial Day. You will see what looks like an abandoned street. Absolutely ZERO demand. Does this make sense to anybody? I have a friend coming to visit Friday night to play Scrabble. She has 2 choices - pay $2 or $3 to park out front, or park in the dark around the corner, or on the 300 block. Thoughts? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: From NYT Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/clyde-haberman/ Not to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when Manhattan's last old-time parking meter was yanked down on Monday, it meant the end of a symbolic target for some rebellious spirits. [The Day] The Day http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/category/the-day/ Clyde Haberman offers his take on the news. To them, parking meters represent an infringement of their freedom of movement. Did anyone in the Old West make a cowboy pay to tie up his horse outside the saloon? Nor is this solely an American notion. In Australia, the No Parking Meters Party http://noparkingmetersparty.org/ came into being a few years ago, running candidates in state elections in New South Wales with a slogan that the basis of democracy is non-dictated policy. Writing about the final curtain http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/nyregion/uprooting-the-old-familiar-p\ arking-meter.html for the parking meter in Manhattan, 60 years to the day after the first one was installed, my colleague Michael M. Grynbaum alluded on Monday to the 1967 film Cool Hand Luke http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=EE05E7DF1738E260BC4A53DFB767\ 838C679EDE . In its opening scene, the title character, played by Paul Newman, is arrested and dispatched to a prison road gang for drunkenly lopping off the heads of meters with a pipe cutter. Back in 1967, some people in the New York theater where I saw it cheered as Luke went from meter to meter, methodically decapitating each one. To them, it wasn't an act of vandalism. It was a free spirit's rebellion against those in power, by attacking one of their more soulless creations. Perhaps those same people would have pumped their fists joyfully had they witnessed the uprooting of Manhattan's last single-space meter from its post on Frederick Douglass Boulevard in Harlem. Not that meters have disappeared from the city. Hardly. Tens of thousands remain in other boroughs. But they are doomed, too. In a year or so, the city's Transportation Department expects multispace Muni-Meters to be the rule everywhere. The relationship between some New Yorkers and their parking spaces can run deep, even as the city becomes ever more bicycle conscious perhaps especially
[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking
Why curtail the hours when there is zero demand? I would have bought the permit if the city designated a number of spaces Resident Parking Only. Wouldn't it make sense for the city to have done a parking survey first? Find out how many residents park in the designated area, and reserve spaces for residents in those areas. On my block this summer that would have amounted to 3 spaces. I realize that varies from block to block, but as I've said, the current system is great for the city, but useless for residents such as myself. What's the value in paying to park when you can't find a space to use it? If I bought the permit should I get a refund on the perhaps 24 days when visitors took up all the spaces? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: Tough one, but I am probably leaning towards relaxing in that area off season or curtailing the hours BUT if that's done and during a concert at the Pony there's no spaces on your block what will you say? This is my entire point about the compatibility/incompatibility of uses. Residences near or in the middle of uses that draw high visitor traffic have issues. You will not be able to solve them. I do not think anyone has. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday. Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this topic), what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley? My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st Ave between Bergh and Kingsley, on any day, at any time between now and Memorial Day. You will see what looks like an abandoned street. Absolutely ZERO demand. Does this make sense to anybody? I have a friend coming to visit Friday night to play Scrabble. She has 2 choices - pay $2 or $3 to park out front, or park in the dark around the corner, or on the 300 block. Thoughts? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: From NYT Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/clyde-haberman/ Not to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when Manhattan's last old-time parking meter was yanked down on Monday, it meant the end of a symbolic target for some rebellious spirits. [The Day] The Day http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/category/the-day/ Clyde Haberman offers his take on the news. To them, parking meters represent an infringement of their freedom of movement. Did anyone in the Old West make a cowboy pay to tie up his horse outside the saloon? Nor is this solely an American notion. In Australia, the No Parking Meters Party http://noparkingmetersparty.org/ came into being a few years ago, running candidates in state elections in New South Wales with a slogan that the basis of democracy is non-dictated policy. Writing about the final curtain http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/nyregion/uprooting-the-old-familiar-p\ arking-meter.html for the parking meter in Manhattan, 60 years to the day after the first one was installed, my colleague Michael M. Grynbaum alluded on Monday to the 1967 film Cool Hand Luke http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=EE05E7DF1738E260BC4A53DFB767\ 838C679EDE . In its opening scene, the title character, played by Paul Newman, is arrested and dispatched to a prison road gang for drunkenly lopping off the heads of meters with a pipe cutter. Back in 1967, some people in the New York theater where I saw it cheered as Luke went from meter to meter, methodically decapitating each one. To them, it wasn't an act of vandalism. It was a free spirit's rebellion against those in power, by attacking one of their more soulless creations. Perhaps those same people would have pumped their fists joyfully had they witnessed the uprooting of Manhattan's last single-space meter from its post on Frederick Douglass Boulevard in Harlem. Not that meters have disappeared from the city. Hardly. Tens of thousands remain in other boroughs. But they are doomed, too. In a year or so, the city's Transportation Department expects multispace Muni-Meters to be the rule everywhere. The relationship between some New Yorkers and their parking spaces can run deep, even as the city becomes ever more bicycle conscious perhaps especially as the city becomes more bike conscious. You don't have to own a car to understand that. I haven't owned one in 33 years. Yet an available parking spot right in front of my apartment building is so alluring that it almost makes me want to rush off to buy something to fill the space. Throughout Manhattan and in parts of other boroughs, the hunt for a perfect spot, one where a driver may leave the car for days without
[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking
When I lived in Edgewater, a resident parking permit was $5. The signage was clear. It kept people away from my neighborhood who wanted to use the Ferry without paying, which was the only competition we residents ever had for parking. And the city collected fines for those who didn't pay attention to the signs. That's exactly the way it should work in the AP residential neighborhoods. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: That holds promise but I think residents should have to pay in the beachfront, cookman, etc. Parking is never free (always has a cost) even if its not charged for. Hogging spaces so customers can never park and frequent businesses. But even implementing some sort of resident parking has issues. Do you make it like Hoboken where there is a visitor parking for limited time? You have to pay someone to mark the tires and measure time? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: I do not believe in paid parking for residents unless it is a $15 year round permit just like every other city in NJ does, pay for a sticker, be able to park in a designated area Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:39:26 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday. Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this topic), what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley? My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st Ave between Bergh and Kingsley, on any day, at any time between now and Memorial Day. You will see what looks like an abandoned street. Absolutely ZERO demand. Does this make sense to anybody? I have a friend coming to visit Friday night to play Scrabble. She has 2 choices - pay $2 or $3 to park out front, or park in the dark around the corner, or on the 300 block. Thoughts? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: From NYT Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/clyde-haberman/ Not to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when Manhattan's last old-time parking meter was yanked down on Monday, it meant the end of a symbolic target for some rebellious spirits. [The Day] The Day http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/category/the-day/ Clyde Haberman offers his take on the news. To them, parking meters represent an infringement of their freedom of movement. Did anyone in the Old West make a cowboy pay to tie up his horse outside the saloon? Nor is this solely an American notion. In Australia, the No Parking Meters Party http://noparkingmetersparty.org/ came into being a few years ago, running candidates in state elections in New South Wales with a slogan that the basis of democracy is non-dictated policy. Writing about the final curtain http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/nyregion/uprooting-the-old-familiar-p\ arking-meter.html for the parking meter in Manhattan, 60 years to the day after the first one was installed, my colleague Michael M. Grynbaum alluded on Monday to the 1967 film Cool Hand Luke http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=EE05E7DF1738E260BC4A53DFB767\ 838C679EDE . In its opening scene, the title character, played by Paul Newman, is arrested and dispatched to a prison road gang for drunkenly lopping off the heads of meters with a pipe cutter. Back in 1967, some people in the New York theater where I saw it cheered as Luke went from meter to meter, methodically decapitating each one. To them, it wasn't an act of vandalism. It was a free spirit's rebellion against those in power, by attacking one of their more soulless creations. Perhaps those same people would have pumped their fists joyfully had they witnessed the uprooting of Manhattan's last single-space meter from its post on Frederick Douglass Boulevard in Harlem. Not that meters have disappeared from the city. Hardly. Tens of thousands remain in other boroughs. But they are doomed, too. In a year or so, the city's Transportation Department expects multispace Muni-Meters to be the rule everywhere. The relationship between some New Yorkers and their parking spaces can run deep, even as the city becomes ever more bicycle conscious perhaps especially as the city becomes more bike conscious. You don't have to own a car to understand that. I haven't owned one in 33 years. Yet an available parking spot right in front of my apartment building is so alluring that it almost makes me want to rush off to buy
[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking
All I'd like to see is one simple thing. Suspend paid parking on the 200 blocks between Labor Day and Memorial Day. I can live with the issues during the summer. But being asked to pay to park on an empty residential block is absolutely absurd. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: My point, reserve spaces on your block so when there is the demand present that leaves you with no spaces, those excess cars (visitors) go go to the next block perhaps. That causes residents on that block not to be able to park (the number displaced by the excess cars) and now they have the same complaints, so we do the same there, and so forth and so on. It is only going to get wore unless the whole thing fails. 1.5 cars off street parking requirement per new unit in the waterfront area. Can you imagine the implications if even 25% of it gets built? Who has 1.5 cars? No guests? You think the folks in Ocean Grove have complaints about parking in the summer? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Why not reserve spaces for residents only on my block? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Why curtail the hours when there is zero demand? I would have bought the permit if the city designated a number of spaces Resident Parking Only. Wouldn't it make sense for the city to have done a parking survey first? Find out how many residents park in the designated area, and reserve spaces for residents in those areas. On my block this summer that would have amounted to 3 spaces. I realize that varies from block to block, but as I've said, the current system is great for the city, but useless for residents such as myself. What's the value in paying to park when you can't find a space to use it? If I bought the permit should I get a refund on the perhaps 24 days when visitors took up all the spaces? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Tough one, but I am probably leaning towards relaxing in that area off season or curtailing the hours BUT if that's done and during a concert at the Pony there's no spaces on your block what will you say? This is my entire point about the compatibility/incompatibility of uses. Residences near or in the middle of uses that draw high visitor traffic have issues. You will not be able to solve them. I do not think anyone has. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday. Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this topic), what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley? My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st Ave between Bergh and Kingsley, on any day, at any time between now and Memorial Day. You will see what looks like an abandoned street. Absolutely ZERO demand. Does this make sense to anybody? I have a friend coming to visit Friday night to play Scrabble. She has 2 choices - pay $2 or $3 to park out front, or park in the dark around the corner, or on the 300 block. Thoughts? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: From NYT Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/clyde-haberman/ Not to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when Manhattan's last old-time parking meter was yanked down on Monday, it meant the end of a symbolic target for some rebellious spirits. [The Day] The Day http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/category/the-day/ Clyde Haberman offers his take on the news. To them, parking meters represent an infringement of their freedom of movement. Did anyone in the Old West make a cowboy pay to tie up his horse outside the saloon? Nor is this solely an American notion. In Australia, the No Parking Meters Party http://noparkingmetersparty.org/ came into being a few years ago, running candidates in state elections in New South Wales with a slogan that the basis of democracy is non-dictated policy. Writing about the final curtain http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/nyregion/uprooting-the-old-familiar-p\ arking-meter.html for the parking meter in Manhattan, 60 years to the day after the first one was installed, my colleague Michael M. Grynbaum alluded on Monday to the 1967 film Cool Hand Luke http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=EE05E7DF1738E260BC4A53DFB767\ 838C679EDE . In its opening scene, the title character, played by Paul Newman, is arrested and dispatched to a prison road gang
[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking
Than the city should just switch the designation between Labor Day and Memorial Day to Resident Parking Only for the 200 blocks. In the winter, I doubt people would want to walk an extra block or two rather than park near the venue they intend to visit. Why should the 200 block residents even have to deal with this during the winter in the first place? The demand simply is not there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote: But if you did that then people would just start parking there instead of the paid areas and you'd be back to the no parking scenario. *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* Claire Davids Managing Partner i-Parcel LLC Tel: +12015491502 Mobile: +16464316239 www.i-parcel.com On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: ** All I'd like to see is one simple thing. Suspend paid parking on the 200 blocks between Labor Day and Memorial Day. I can live with the issues during the summer. But being asked to pay to park on an empty residential block is absolutely absurd. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: My point, reserve spaces on your block so when there is the demand present that leaves you with no spaces, those excess cars (visitors) go go to the next block perhaps. That causes residents on that block not to be able to park (the number displaced by the excess cars) and now they have the same complaints, so we do the same there, and so forth and so on. It is only going to get wore unless the whole thing fails. 1.5 cars off street parking requirement per new unit in the waterfront area. Can you imagine the implications if even 25% of it gets built? Who has 1.5 cars? No guests? You think the folks in Ocean Grove have complaints about parking in the summer? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Why not reserve spaces for residents only on my block? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Why curtail the hours when there is zero demand? I would have bought the permit if the city designated a number of spaces Resident Parking Only. Wouldn't it make sense for the city to have done a parking survey first? Find out how many residents park in the designated area, and reserve spaces for residents in those areas. On my block this summer that would have amounted to 3 spaces. I realize that varies from block to block, but as I've said, the current system is great for the city, but useless for residents such as myself. What's the value in paying to park when you can't find a space to use it? If I bought the permit should I get a refund on the perhaps 24 days when visitors took up all the spaces? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Tough one, but I am probably leaning towards relaxing in that area off season or curtailing the hours BUT if that's done and during a concert at the Pony there's no spaces on your block what will you say? This is my entire point about the compatibility/incompatibility of uses. Residences near or in the middle of uses that draw high visitor traffic have issues. You will not be able to solve them. I do not think anyone has. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday. Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this topic), what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley? My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st Ave between Bergh and Kingsley, on any day, at any time between now and Memorial Day. You will see what looks like an abandoned street. Absolutely ZERO demand. Does this make sense to anybody? I have a friend coming to visit Friday night to play Scrabble. She has 2 choices - pay $2 or $3 to park out front, or park in the dark around the corner, or on the 300 block. Thoughts? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: From NYT Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/clyde-haberman/ Not to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when Manhattan's last old-time parking meter was yanked down on Monday, it meant the end of a symbolic target for some rebellious spirits. [The Day] The Day http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/category/the-day/ Clyde Haberman offers his take on the news. To them, parking meters represent an infringement of their freedom of movement. Did anyone in the Old West make a cowboy pay to tie up his horse outside the saloon? Nor is this solely an American notion
[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking
I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here. Here's my final thought (sorry to repeat myself). On Friday night, a friend is coming over to play Scrabble. My street is nothing but potholes and empty parking spaces. She has 2 choices, pay $3 to park out front on an empty street, or park around the corner or a block away. I'd love to hear somebody in this city logically defend that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Not sure about that, although Cookman is bustling in the Winter months, the waterfront hardly fills the spaces Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Claire Davids claire.davids@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:11:52 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking But if you did that then people would just start parking there instead of the paid areas and you'd be back to the no parking scenario. *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* Claire Davids Managing Partner i-Parcel LLC Tel: +12015491502 Mobile: +16464316239 www.i-parcel.com On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: ** All I'd like to see is one simple thing. Suspend paid parking on the 200 blocks between Labor Day and Memorial Day. I can live with the issues during the summer. But being asked to pay to park on an empty residential block is absolutely absurd. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: My point, reserve spaces on your block so when there is the demand present that leaves you with no spaces, those excess cars (visitors) go go to the next block perhaps. That causes residents on that block not to be able to park (the number displaced by the excess cars) and now they have the same complaints, so we do the same there, and so forth and so on. It is only going to get wore unless the whole thing fails. 1.5 cars off street parking requirement per new unit in the waterfront area. Can you imagine the implications if even 25% of it gets built? Who has 1.5 cars? No guests? You think the folks in Ocean Grove have complaints about parking in the summer? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Why not reserve spaces for residents only on my block? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Why curtail the hours when there is zero demand? I would have bought the permit if the city designated a number of spaces Resident Parking Only. Wouldn't it make sense for the city to have done a parking survey first? Find out how many residents park in the designated area, and reserve spaces for residents in those areas. On my block this summer that would have amounted to 3 spaces. I realize that varies from block to block, but as I've said, the current system is great for the city, but useless for residents such as myself. What's the value in paying to park when you can't find a space to use it? If I bought the permit should I get a refund on the perhaps 24 days when visitors took up all the spaces? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Tough one, but I am probably leaning towards relaxing in that area off season or curtailing the hours BUT if that's done and during a concert at the Pony there's no spaces on your block what will you say? This is my entire point about the compatibility/incompatibility of uses. Residences near or in the middle of uses that draw high visitor traffic have issues. You will not be able to solve them. I do not think anyone has. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday. Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this topic), what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley? My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st Ave between Bergh and Kingsley, on any day, at any time between now and Memorial Day. You will see what looks like an abandoned street. Absolutely ZERO demand. Does this make sense to anybody? I have a friend coming to visit Friday night to play Scrabble. She has 2 choices - pay $2 or $3 to park out front, or park in the dark around the corner, or on the 300 block. Thoughts? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: From NYT Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/clyde-haberman/ Not to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when Manhattan's last old-time parking meter was yanked down on Monday, it meant the end of a symbolic target
[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking
Thanks :) But I love my home. It has an amazing window seat that makes me very happy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@... wrote: Hinge, here is my solution: Buy my house (I will give you a good deal, certainly less than I paid for it 7 years ago) and you get room for up to 3 cars off street! :-) (Offer also open to anyone else) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan...
I just have to look at The Esperanza to tell me that endless discussion will result in no progress in the foreseeable future. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote: 25 years.. *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* Claire Davids Managing Partner i-Parcel LLC Tel: +12015491502 Mobile: +16464316239 www.i-parcel.com On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@...wrote: ** No one really answered the question I posed first thing this morning-ish re: The Plan. When do people think the first couple of blocks will be developed as set forth in The Plan, how many years? 10 years? 20 years? Never? I have 23 years left on my mortgage, what will AP look like then I wonder? I can't help but think that all this discussion will be moot because most if The Plan will never be realized. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting
Quite frankly I would be happy if we had two blocks of parkland bordering the beach and no development. Best idea I've heard in quite awhile. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ wrote: People talking about this at work today. http://janescarousel.com/about.php Jane's Carousel... H. Yes, no Pier Village, please. Carousel in Carousel house, Pony stays part of larger development (entrance to music museum) but no outdoor performance there if you are building residential. Outdoor performance on old Casino pier. Long Branch has nothing like Jones Beach Theatre. We should be so lucky for that to be done. What most of you do not realize is that Partners has the right to build what is in the plan already. It is being looked at to make it better but Partners can say no. And as to the issue of developer centric, see above. Also, assuming you were starting from scratch, you could make a plan that np one would build. But remember, they have the right to build what is already planned for. So that are the circumstances the committee worked under. Make it too restrictive, Partners says no and plan stays like it is. Personally I would never have planned for 3000+ units but that is water under the bridge. The horse has left the barn. There are those that will still want to remain in the past and discuss what cannot be changed. For my part I want to move on and make changes for the better where they can be done. Quite frankly I would be happy if we had two blocks of parkland bordering the beach and no development. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Oysterfest
You can click on the beginning of the email address (mikeh@...) and it brings up a direct email interface. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: your email doesnt come through in your post. I thought it was better in 2010 as well. The food was terrible and I am sorry we did not go to the beach instead. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike H mike_hollemans@ wrote: Good Morning_ I am a regular reader of this board although I do not responds to much unless it's within my area of expertise or specific to our business (The Passion Group.) I would like to welcome everyone's feedback regarding the past Oysterfest and ask that you send it directly to me at mikeh@ if you would like a response. An when I ask for all feedback, I mean it I am very curious why people thought 2010 was better than 2011. I am also very interested in what you would do to make the event better in 2012. I am willing to discuss all aspects of Oysterfest (i.e. Location, Vendors, hours, etc..) with the exception of the financials as that is between The Asbury Park Chamber of Commerce and The Passion Group. Someone is correct, there is a much smaller Guinness Oysterfest in Redbank, done in the White Street municipal parking lot later on this month. Like I said, I would like all feedback good, bad and ugly so that if the Chamber elects to use the Passion Group to produce the Oysterfest in 2012 I can use that feedback to make positive changes. Thanks! Mike Hollemans Logistics Director The Passion Group Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Beach Fees after Labor Day?
It's everything east of Kingsley as well. Year round. Till midnight. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: But parking east of Kingsley is not enforced? Good to know tourists are more valued than residents Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:37:01 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Beach Fees after Labor Day? Did you know that if you live on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley that paid parking will be enforced year round, until midnight? Total bullshit in my opinion. If one of my friends comes to visit, they can either pay or park around the block. Meanwhile my block will be a ghost town until next May. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lisa liannucc@ wrote: Does anyone know what the deal is with beach badges this year? I was out on a bike ride early Saturday morning and saw them setting up to check badges. I checked the sign at the office, and sure enough there was an opening date of May 1 (several weeks before Memorial Day, which is bad enough) and no closing date. Does this mean they'll just be randomly collecting fees whenever they feel like it instead of stopping after Labor Day like pretty much everyone else in the state? Kind of reminds me of the situation with parking meters (my husband nearly got a ticket this past March despite being told that meters were not being enforced till May)... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Oyster Fest
I went on Friday when it was free. It was part flea market, very sparse on the oysters. Lot's of local restaurants with things averaging around $8 plus lot's of fried carnival style food. I think they made a big mistake in moving this to Lake Ave. Cookman is a more interesting setting and Lake is needed for parking for an event like this. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: A few friends went this year and said it was horrible compared to last yeardid anyone else go? I went over for Friday night, was not impressed.couldn't even find any Oysters So last night a buddy calls me and asks if I want to go to the Guinness Oyster Festival, I said that I didn't think Guinness was involved, not to mention it was this past weekend He goes on to tell me its in Red Bank..did a quick search, and find out Guinness did in fact move everything to Red Bank, and this festival actually has Oysters as the main themeimagine that Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:37:01 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Beach Fees after Labor Day? Did you know that if you live on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley that paid parking will be enforced year round, until midnight? Total bullshit in my opinion. If one of my friends comes to visit, they can either pay or park around the block. Meanwhile my block will be a ghost town until next May. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lisa liannucc@ wrote: Does anyone know what the deal is with beach badges this year? I was out on a bike ride early Saturday morning and saw them setting up to check badges. I checked the sign at the office, and sure enough there was an opening date of May 1 (several weeks before Memorial Day, which is bad enough) and no closing date. Does this mean they'll just be randomly collecting fees whenever they feel like it instead of stopping after Labor Day like pretty much everyone else in the state? Kind of reminds me of the situation with parking meters (my husband nearly got a ticket this past March despite being told that meters were not being enforced till May)... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Marilyn Schlossbach drops out of Assembly race
I do, but what I had on my b'day was even smaller than Euro portions. I had a cheese plate app that was not worth the cost of it. And a steak main course that was pretty tiny and tasteless. The desert was good though. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Dave dsher4@... wrote: Hinge, I thought you loved the European lifestyle? they serve small portions over there with mostly homemade and organic ingredients, hence their lower rate of obesity. So i would think you would embrace a moderate homemade portion since it mimics Europe :) Dan --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I went to Langosta for the first time on my 50th birthday. The portions were so small that I made myself a PBJ when I got home. Not impressed at all. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Janine bubbanella63@ wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:16 PM, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ wrote: I went to Trinity once for the lunch special and I thought it was okay. I was not particularly impressed with Dauphin Grille either, although I do like Langosta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Beach Fees after Labor Day?
Did you know that if you live on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley that paid parking will be enforced year round, until midnight? Total bullshit in my opinion. If one of my friends comes to visit, they can either pay or park around the block. Meanwhile my block will be a ghost town until next May. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lisa liannucc@... wrote: Does anyone know what the deal is with beach badges this year? I was out on a bike ride early Saturday morning and saw them setting up to check badges. I checked the sign at the office, and sure enough there was an opening date of May 1 (several weeks before Memorial Day, which is bad enough) and no closing date. Does this mean they'll just be randomly collecting fees whenever they feel like it instead of stopping after Labor Day like pretty much everyone else in the state? Kind of reminds me of the situation with parking meters (my husband nearly got a ticket this past March despite being told that meters were not being enforced till May)... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Marilyn Schlossbach drops out of Assembly race
I went to Langosta for the first time on my 50th birthday. The portions were so small that I made myself a PBJ when I got home. Not impressed at all. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Janine bubbanella63@... wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:16 PM, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@... wrote: I went to Trinity once for the lunch special and I thought it was okay. I was not particularly impressed with Dauphin Grille either, although I do like Langosta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Marilyn Schlossbach drops out of Assembly race
How can 1 block away from Cookman be considered Out of the Way? Are you serious? Taka has a pretty great track record. It's on the same block. Is that destination out of the way? Asbury is full of great little gems. Have you ever checked out The Coronals Kissing Booth? It's off the beaten path but gaining a following because they make great food. What about La Sierra on Main St? It's probably the best kept secret in AP and their biz is thriving because people are discovering that they have great food at reasonable prices. If Trinity has a problem, it's a lack of buzz or creative advertising. But blaming it on their rather great location is quite a stretch in my opinion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@... wrote: I think it's a very easy restaurant for people to forget is there. The location is a bit out of the way for those who aren't super familiar with it, which means it seems like a place that has to be a destination rather than a choice for those coming to Asbury and wandering around to find a great meal. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, colonialjohn johnmenc@ wrote: Trinity and the Pope probably has the best menu of all her restaurants, and Chris is a fantastic chef. TP shold be the last of her restaurants to close - it has the most potential. It is packed on weekend nights, however lighter traffic during the week. Inside decor is truly beautiful. Summer menu was excellent, and offered more options from NO cuisine. (and yes this is our fav AP restaurant). Somewhat of the age-old debate in AP beach vs. downtown businesses. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Iannucci liannucc@ wrote: I have heard Trinity is not doing well, went through a whole menu revamp over the summer. That and the fact that she's probably spread too thin...I know they did struggle over the winter. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Marilyn Schlossbach drops out of Assembly race
I work next to that particular restaurant, but I haven't been there yet. Definitely interested. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I agree location is not the problem, I have not seen much in the way of advertising except Gilmours email and the Tri City, both limited audiences. A fellow foodie and coworker who lives in Ocean just heard of the place a few wks back.he wasn't impressed with his first trip I personally have mixed feelings on Trinity, my experiences have been inconsistent, which has not happened at any of her other places Hinge - have you been to the table on Bond? GREAT SOUL food Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 06:28:01 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Marilyn Schlossbach drops out of Assembly race How can 1 block away from Cookman be considered Out of the Way? Are you serious? Taka has a pretty great track record. It's on the same block. Is that destination out of the way? Asbury is full of great little gems. Have you ever checked out The Coronals Kissing Booth? It's off the beaten path but gaining a following because they make great food. What about La Sierra on Main St? It's probably the best kept secret in AP and their biz is thriving because people are discovering that they have great food at reasonable prices. If Trinity has a problem, it's a lack of buzz or creative advertising. But blaming it on their rather great location is quite a stretch in my opinion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: I think it's a very easy restaurant for people to forget is there. The location is a bit out of the way for those who aren't super familiar with it, which means it seems like a place that has to be a destination rather than a choice for those coming to Asbury and wandering around to find a great meal. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, colonialjohn johnmenc@ wrote: Trinity and the Pope probably has the best menu of all her restaurants, and Chris is a fantastic chef. TP shold be the last of her restaurants to close - it has the most potential. It is packed on weekend nights, however lighter traffic during the week. Inside decor is truly beautiful. Summer menu was excellent, and offered more options from NO cuisine. (and yes this is our fav AP restaurant). Somewhat of the age-old debate in AP beach vs. downtown businesses. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Iannucci liannucc@ wrote: I have heard Trinity is not doing well, went through a whole menu revamp over the summer. That and the fact that she's probably spread too thin...I know they did struggle over the winter. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Gun fight last night
Did anybody hear what sounded like automatic gunfire last night around 11 pm, followed by lot's of sirens? ASBURY PARK Police continue to investigate an altercation that left two people shot in the 100 block of Borden Avenue at 11:13 p.m. Friday, said Mark LeMieux of the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office. The victims were both males, one an 18-year-old Asbury Park man and the second a 23-year-old Neptune man. The victims are being treated at a regional trauma center, however, LeMieux declined to name the medical facility. The Neptune man was shot in his lower body while the Asbury Park man was shot in the upper body. Both men have non-life-threatening injuries, LeMieux said. A gun was recovered at the scene. Law enforcement officers are piecing together what led up to the shooting, he said. Asbury Park Police Detective April Byrd and Monmouth County Prosecutors Office Investigator Jeffrey Wilbert are leading the investigation. Anyone with information is encouraged to contact either officer, LeMieux said. Wilbert can be reached at 800-533-7443, and Byrd can be reached at 732-774-1300. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
