[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park, Europe the future
Yep ... good post. Upward and onward. The lifeguards are much busier now than five years ago ... BG ... what did the Captain bark at me once when I was on the beach about two years ago in July ... ASBURY IS BACK! BG. Yep it is ... if all we can do know is cry about some copper panels on some buidling ... this is good ... if this is the main issue this week ... BG. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Dave dsher4@... wrote: With all due respect to Hinge and Werner (both of whom i respect for their posts, intelligence, knowledge and passion about the town, particularly werner who is extremely knowledgable on a number of topics), it is important that we realize that Asbury is not continental Europe and that ironically is a good thing. While gorgeous in architecture and history, the socialistic aspects of Europe have effectively brought the continent to its knees in a terrible financial crisis that in many ways is far worse than the housing situation that we went through here. The crisis in that content will continue to plague them for years to come and while all of us love Europe for its splendor, it is unfortunately a great place to visit but one who's future is troubled by its financial situation which will be an albatross for years to come. I too wish that Asbury could be completely restored to its former splendor. However, i am also aware that i have to balance that desire with the pragmatic aspects of the current and the future. Both in regard to economics and social change. While historic theatre's are romantic and whimsical to think about, we live in a world of iPod's and Facebook. Sometimes change is scary but it is a part of moving forward in history. Just like Asbury was transformative in its beginning, it should be so again. When reading the history books, the town was forward thinking with indoor air conditioning in the paramount or a train line over sunset bridge that took patrons downtown for shopping. in the 1920's this was futuristic stuff. We need to think about what is forward thinking now and attempt to tie it appropriately to our past. One size does not fit all. I for one think the town is on a very promising path of resurgence. Asbury has done extremely well though a brutal economic downturn. With no help from a very failed redevelopment plan, the town has found a way to claw itself further along house by house, business by business. Crime is obviously a very serious problem and one that needs to be addressed. So where do we go from here. Importantly, the economy is starting to rebound and the housing market has found its bottom although their is likely to be a shallow upturn rather than a resurgence. As werner has talked about i think the town's resurgence has its roots in music and entertainment. I'm glad bamboozle is coming to Asbury and anything we can do to promote both music and entertainment should be applauded how can we blend the past and the future? While i agree with Werner that the loss of some of the historical treasures are a tragedy, i also realize that the economic realities made it so. that being said, i think the historical artifacts and building that are left such as convention hall or the beautiful casino building should be brought back to their historical glory. This is an enormous economic undertaking and needs to be considered in light of reformation in the context of a return on invested capital. Even back in the 1920's, the architects of the buildings did not think they were going to be built for beauty alone without form of purpose. I am a bit discouraged regarding the posts i read on this site. I find that every post is castigating madison marquette for all of their transgressions. I want to say that i have zero affiliation with madison marquette and only have spoken to their representatives over an errant vodka soda one summer evening. i agree they have made some mistakes but as a homeowner in this town i am thrilled that they are here, undertaking an enormous monetary investment and trying to bring the town back in spite of its challenges. I know that given the circumstances most people would have cut bait at this point considering the investment and I for one am glad MM has not. I'm not sure what the alternative is. It's always easy to criticize but always more difficult to offer solutions. I'm not sure if anyone from Madison marquette reads this board. Or if any of the more involved citizens of Asbury would be willing to get involved. I think it would be a great idea to bring together an ad hoc group to discuss potential improvements to the redevelopment and or town under the concept of cooperation and not attack... effectively a brain storming group where no idea was stupid and attacks on the past, future or status quo were avoided in lieu of ideas about what could be better. With an
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bartender Mix-Off
Thanks for letting me know. That's too bad- my bartender friend was looking forward to competing again. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, joeybea...@yahoo.com joeybearnj@... wrote: I called MM and they are not having it this year. It was a surprise to me as well. Joey Schweigert 1306 Monroe Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bartender Mix-Off
I called MM and they are not having it this year. It was a surprise to me as well. Joey Schweigert 1306 Monroe Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park High's football team
My lasy sentence was cut off..it should have read Our city can be proud of kids like Corey who turned it aound in the classroom and made a difference on the field. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mkdown13 mkdown13@... wrote: Just wanted to put this out there for the AP Group I think we all agree that Asbury Park is a city in transition and that many improvements are needed on a number of fronts. But some times we get so focused on which restaurants are opening and closing, crime, the parking issues, the city government, etc, that we miss little news stories that highlight some of the good things that happen in town. On Saturday, Asbury Park High's football team beat Florence 42-18 to win the Group 1 championship our team may be smaller than most others it plays against and usually outnumbered, but the heart, soul, and passion of this team is incredible (it was especially touching to see the kids holding up the photo of John Key their coach who was killed earlier this season out of love and respect for someone who tried to make a difference with these kids). Our city can be proud of kids like Corey who turned it around in the classroom and made a difference on the field. http://www.app.com/article/20111203/NJSPORTS0110/312030047/Goodson-makes-up-missed-time Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park High's football team
The team is OFFICIALLY a CNJ Group 1 dynasty I didn't miss a home game this year, got to 1 away game. I have watched their games since they won the first one with Coach Don, and I didn't think this years team would do it, but man did they look crisp against a good Florence team Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: mkdown13 mkdow...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:19:37 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park High's football team My lasy sentence was cut off..it should have read Our city can be proud of kids like Corey who turned it aound in the classroom and made a difference on the field. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mkdown13 mkdown13@... wrote: Just wanted to put this out there for the AP Group I think we all agree that Asbury Park is a city in transition and that many improvements are needed on a number of fronts. But some times we get so focused on which restaurants are opening and closing, crime, the parking issues, the city government, etc, that we miss little news stories that highlight some of the good things that happen in town. On Saturday, Asbury Park High's football team beat Florence 42-18 to win the Group 1 championship our team may be smaller than most others it plays against and usually outnumbered, but the heart, soul, and passion of this team is incredible (it was especially touching to see the kids holding up the photo of John Key their coach who was killed earlier this season out of love and respect for someone who tried to make a difference with these kids). Our city can be proud of kids like Corey who turned it around in the classroom and made a difference on the field. http://www.app.com/article/20111203/NJSPORTS0110/312030047/Goodson-makes-up-missed-time [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
Yeah, I had parts stolen off my bike a few years ago. Last night, a neighbor of mine who constantly makes the mistake of locking her bike to a telephone pole also had her front wheel stolen, and it's her only transportation. What can be done about this? Obviously parents aren't wondering where their kids are getting all of their bikes and bike parts. Maybe the city should require everybody to register their bikes, just like they do with dog licenses. If a kid is caught riding a bike without a sticker, impound it. If it's found to be stolen, arrest the little shit heads. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Huge problem right now? That's what they told me 3yrs ago when I had 3bikes stolen in 8days (recovered 2 of the 3, one bike the following day in front of my house, and my vintage rat rod 5 MONTHS LATER) A teacher in APHS who lives down the street from, has told us on several occasions these kids consider any bike in AP theirs. She also told us 90% of the bikes we see these kids on are stolen I have had a kid tell me to my face while on my vintage 1970 ross apollo that he was gonna take that shit right from me Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:05:48 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park bicycle thieves Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
One measure we, (as the potential victims) can take is to make sure we write down the bikes serial numbers I have all of my bikes serial numbers along with corresponding pictures of them as well I would never leave a bike locked up outside of a fence on your property, 2 of ours were locked up to our deck prior to having our fence put up, we came home to find a cut lock and no bikes The police keep great records of bikes reported stolen, and its a THICK book The one thing I will say, is if you see a kid riding your stolen bike, they will give it back quickly if you approach them Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hing...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:17:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves Yeah, I had parts stolen off my bike a few years ago. Last night, a neighbor of mine who constantly makes the mistake of locking her bike to a telephone pole also had her front wheel stolen, and it's her only transportation. What can be done about this? Obviously parents aren't wondering where their kids are getting all of their bikes and bike parts. Maybe the city should require everybody to register their bikes, just like they do with dog licenses. If a kid is caught riding a bike without a sticker, impound it. If it's found to be stolen, arrest the little shit heads. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Huge problem right now? That's what they told me 3yrs ago when I had 3bikes stolen in 8days (recovered 2 of the 3, one bike the following day in front of my house, and my vintage rat rod 5 MONTHS LATER) A teacher in APHS who lives down the street from, has told us on several occasions these kids consider any bike in AP theirs. She also told us 90% of the bikes we see these kids on are stolen I have had a kid tell me to my face while on my vintage 1970 ross apollo that he was gonna take that shit right from me Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:05:48 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park bicycle thieves Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
Doesn't it all come back to inattentive parenting? If you kid has 10 bikes in their backyard and you don't question you child about it, then something is wrong. I see boys riding girls bikes and big kids riding bikes that are way to small for them all the time. One time when I was working at Second Life Bikes, and kid came in with a bike freshly painted with black spray paint. I asked him where he got it. He said it was sitting on the curb, so he just took it. I told him that a spray painted bike is a tell-tale sign of it being stolen. He acted nervous and would not look me in the eye. Repeat that over and over in our city. Parents are casting a blind eye to their kids unlawful behavior. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: One measure we, (as the potential victims) can take is to make sure we write down the bikes serial numbers I have all of my bikes serial numbers along with corresponding pictures of them as well I would never leave a bike locked up outside of a fence on your property, 2 of ours were locked up to our deck prior to having our fence put up, we came home to find a cut lock and no bikes The police keep great records of bikes reported stolen, and its a THICK book The one thing I will say, is if you see a kid riding your stolen bike, they will give it back quickly if you approach them Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:17:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves Yeah, I had parts stolen off my bike a few years ago. Last night, a neighbor of mine who constantly makes the mistake of locking her bike to a telephone pole also had her front wheel stolen, and it's her only transportation. What can be done about this? Obviously parents aren't wondering where their kids are getting all of their bikes and bike parts. Maybe the city should require everybody to register their bikes, just like they do with dog licenses. If a kid is caught riding a bike without a sticker, impound it. If it's found to be stolen, arrest the little shit heads. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Huge problem right now? That's what they told me 3yrs ago when I had 3bikes stolen in 8days (recovered 2 of the 3, one bike the following day in front of my house, and my vintage rat rod 5 MONTHS LATER) A teacher in APHS who lives down the street from, has told us on several occasions these kids consider any bike in AP theirs. She also told us 90% of the bikes we see these kids on are stolen I have had a kid tell me to my face while on my vintage 1970 ross apollo that he was gonna take that shit right from me Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:05:48 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park bicycle thieves Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
You basically hit the nail on the head The parenting in our city (or lack thereof) I truly believe is the root cause of many many social problems in AP, from education in schools to crime and everything in between Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hing...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:54:53 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves Doesn't it all come back to inattentive parenting? If you kid has 10 bikes in their backyard and you don't question you child about it, then something is wrong. I see boys riding girls bikes and big kids riding bikes that are way to small for them all the time. One time when I was working at Second Life Bikes, and kid came in with a bike freshly painted with black spray paint. I asked him where he got it. He said it was sitting on the curb, so he just took it. I told him that a spray painted bike is a tell-tale sign of it being stolen. He acted nervous and would not look me in the eye. Repeat that over and over in our city. Parents are casting a blind eye to their kids unlawful behavior. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: One measure we, (as the potential victims) can take is to make sure we write down the bikes serial numbers I have all of my bikes serial numbers along with corresponding pictures of them as well I would never leave a bike locked up outside of a fence on your property, 2 of ours were locked up to our deck prior to having our fence put up, we came home to find a cut lock and no bikes The police keep great records of bikes reported stolen, and its a THICK book The one thing I will say, is if you see a kid riding your stolen bike, they will give it back quickly if you approach them Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:17:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves Yeah, I had parts stolen off my bike a few years ago. Last night, a neighbor of mine who constantly makes the mistake of locking her bike to a telephone pole also had her front wheel stolen, and it's her only transportation. What can be done about this? Obviously parents aren't wondering where their kids are getting all of their bikes and bike parts. Maybe the city should require everybody to register their bikes, just like they do with dog licenses. If a kid is caught riding a bike without a sticker, impound it. If it's found to be stolen, arrest the little shit heads. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Huge problem right now? That's what they told me 3yrs ago when I had 3bikes stolen in 8days (recovered 2 of the 3, one bike the following day in front of my house, and my vintage rat rod 5 MONTHS LATER) A teacher in APHS who lives down the street from, has told us on several occasions these kids consider any bike in AP theirs. She also told us 90% of the bikes we see these kids on are stolen I have had a kid tell me to my face while on my vintage 1970 ross apollo that he was gonna take that shit right from me Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:05:48 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park bicycle thieves Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. be nice to run a hidden wire to a decoy bike and shock the f$ckers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Huge problem right now? That's what they told me 3yrs ago when I had 3bikes stolen in 8days (recovered 2 of the 3, one bike the following day in front of my house, and my vintage rat rod 5 MONTHS LATER) A teacher in APHS who lives down the street from, has told us on several occasions these kids consider any bike in AP theirs. She also told us 90% of the bikes we see these kids on are stolen I have had a kid tell me to my face while on my vintage 1970 ross apollo that he was gonna take that shit right from me That happened to me on the BW after fireworks a couple of years ago. I told him no problem, you can have it, just bend over and I'll stick the bike up your ass. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
H :) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. be nice to run a hidden wire to a decoy bike and shock the f$ckers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
Look at these animales chopping down a tree to get a bike. http://youtu.be/PcV4LVhSRLg --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: H :) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. be nice to run a hidden wire to a decoy bike and shock the f$ckers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park historical society pushes to salvage Baronet Theater artifacts
Interesting, thanks for posting. Did anyone go inside during 2006 when it was open? Seems like if extensive renovations were done in 2005-2006, that, in four years, it wouldn't have fallen apart... Cathryn. From the article: During the two decades under then-owners Walter Burns and Maurice Roberson, the theater opened intermittently starting in 1986. Developers Dennis Dubrow and Patrick Fasano bought the theater in December 2005 and reopened it for the summer after extensive renovations in July 2006. The following summer Fasano and Dubrow sold it to the cityâs master redeveloper. The theater never opened again. Years of decay took its toll on the art deco building that stood neglected and underutilized while the city limped along in a stalled oceanfront redevelopment. I liked the Baronet because it was the oldest theater in town, Crawford said. It was just a nice comfortable theater. The Baronet, Stine said, is one of many historically significant buildings the city continues to lose to redevelopment and neglect. This has been an ongoing problem in the city for decades actually â demolition through neglect, Stine said. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: _Asbury Park historical society pushes to salvage Baronet Theater artifacts | NJ.com_ (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/asbury_park_historical_society.html) _http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/asbury_park_historical_society.htm l_ (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/asbury_park_historical_society.html) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Roastery for Christmas Gifts.
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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park 14 Winston-Salem Yet to Score
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update: Blue Bishops advance at Pop Warner Super Bowl, 14-0 SARAH WEBSTER STAFF WRITER � December 7, 2008 LAKE BUENA VISTA, FLA � T Are you reporting from down in Florida? ): Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
In YOUR country? What are we, chopped liver? Yes, Germany was first and Queen Victoria introduced it to the Brits through her German husband Prince Albert, later introduced into the United States, during the Victorian period. However the customs of Christmas evolved, the overcommercialization of one of the Churches most sacred days cannot be overemphasized. For me, Good Friday, is the most sacred of all Holy Days. For God so gave the world, His only begotten Son. Holy Thursday, Good Friday and Easter Sunday, ring true for me, followed by Pentecost. No need to argue over who started what, because like a child, I still believe in Santa Claus or the very idea of him. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting historical perspective about other parts of the world. In my country, a christmas tree has been accepted as a part of the American celebration. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. There has historically been opposition to the custom of the Christmas tree because of its alleged pagan origins. Thus, Oliver Cromwell preached against the heathen traditions of Christmas carols and decorated trees. As pastor Henry Schwan of Cleveland OH in 1851 decorating what was likely the first Christmas tree in an American church. His parishioners condemned the idea as a Pagan practice. There are various legends regarding the origin of the Christmas tree, often relating to Saint Boniface. Thus, in one version, Boniface disrupted a pagan child sacrifice at an oak tree, flattening the oak with a blow of his fist. A small fir sprang up in place of the oak, which Boniface told the pagans represented Christ.[1] In some accounts, Martin Luther is credited with adding lights and decoration to fir branches traditionally hung from ceilings.[2] Condemnation of the Christmas tree as pagan has been based on a passage in Jeremiah, Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. (Jeremiah 10:2-4, KJV). Christmas traditions in general have often been associated with paganism in 19th century scholarship. Robert Chambers in his 1832 Book of Days notes that the festivities of Christmas originally derived from the Roman Saturnalia , had afterwards been intermingled with the ceremonies observed by the British Druids at the period of winter-solstice, and at a subsequent period became incorporated with the grim mythology of the ancient Saxons. Two popular observances belonging to Christmas are more especially derived from the worship of our pagan ancestorsthe hanging up of the mistletoe and the burning of the Yule log. Regarding the Christmas tree itself, Chambers notes that it seems to be a very ancient custom in Germany, and is probably a remnant of the splendid and fanciful pageants of the middle ages. Other traditions relating to Christmas that may derive from Germanic pagan practices include the Christmas ham, Yule Goat, stuffing stockings, elements of Santa Claus and his nocturnal ride through the sky, and elements of Alpine folklore.[3] There are also some accounts that place the earliest Christmas trees in the Baltic (variously Estonia or Lativa), while in actuality the custom was introduced there in the 1920s. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
...And on the 12th Day of Christmas, the Cajuns and the Creoles, officially roll out that other season; Mardi Gras and culminates on Ash Wednesday! Laissez La Bon Ton Rouler! No fooling! Mardi Gras begins on the 12th Night of Christmas and ends at midnight on Fat Tuesday and all Catholics, hung over or not, go to Mass and received their ashes! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm I am not sure where this news aired from, but my first question would be: Should we really be out there singing: On the First Day of Christmas, Ma-Tola-Gave-To-Us, a Christmas Tree inside the Car-Rou- Sel? Shouldn't this be a CITY activity, not a DEVELOPER activity? Happy Festival of Lights, Tommy! Yep, I get it. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 ASBURY PARK Madison Marquette will hold this year's holiday tree lighting at 6 p.m. Sunday, Nov. 30, at the Convention Hall Arcade on the boardwalk. Earlier at 3 p.m. Sunday, a free screening of the 1954 movie White Christmas'' with Bing Crosby will be shown in the Paramount Theatre, followed by a performance of Tim McLoone and the Shirleys outside the arcade from 5 to 6 p.m. Madison Marquette's marketing director, Courtney Johnson, said the boardwalk's holiday bazaar officially starts Friday, Nov. 28, with all stores open from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday through Monday and live performances throughout the month. This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands will be sold in the Carousel and the arcade will feature a concierge greeting booth and a 100 Fabulous Gifts'' shop featuring gifts from all the shops on the boardwalk. For more information, call (732) 897-8810. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In YOUR country? Yes Sharon this is where I was born and live. Is it not my country? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
No problem, with it being your country, but our is more collective since, you're speaking to ALL of us, I hope! We're not foreigners, you know. Don't get me started! I hope ALL of you enjoy the Holiday tomorrow in OUR City by the Sea! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: In YOUR country? Yes Sharon this is where I was born and live. Is it not my country? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
On Friday night at 6 in the Grand Arcade between Paramount and CH there will be a performance by the NJ Rock n Roll Chorus. Try to find the nice young lady from Howell singing 1st Soprano. I imagine they will be singing Christmas songs, but they just recorded an a copella verson of Born to Run. Considering the venue, I'm guessing they will sneak it in. I hope you enjoy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 ASBURY PARK Madison Marquette will hold this year's holiday tree lighting at 6 p.m. Sunday, Nov. 30, at the Convention Hall Arcade on the boardwalk. Earlier at 3 p.m. Sunday, a free screening of the 1954 movie White Christmas'' with Bing Crosby will be shown in the Paramount Theatre, followed by a performance of Tim McLoone and the Shirleys outside the arcade from 5 to 6 p.m. Madison Marquette's marketing director, Courtney Johnson, said the boardwalk's holiday bazaar officially starts Friday, Nov. 28, with all stores open from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday through Monday and live performances throughout the month. This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands will be sold in the Carousel and the arcade will feature a concierge greeting booth and a 100 Fabulous Gifts'' shop featuring gifts from all the shops on the boardwalk. For more information, call (732) 897-8810. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. There has historically been opposition to the custom of the Christmas tree because of its alleged pagan origins. Thus, Oliver Cromwell preached against the heathen traditions of Christmas carols and decorated trees. As pastor Henry Schwan of Cleveland OH in 1851 decorating what was likely the first Christmas tree in an American church. His parishioners condemned the idea as a Pagan practice. There are various legends regarding the origin of the Christmas tree, often relating to Saint Boniface. Thus, in one version, Boniface disrupted a pagan child sacrifice at an oak tree, flattening the oak with a blow of his fist. A small fir sprang up in place of the oak, which Boniface told the pagans represented Christ.[1] In some accounts, Martin Luther is credited with adding lights and decoration to fir branches traditionally hung from ceilings.[2] Condemnation of the Christmas tree as pagan has been based on a passage in Jeremiah, Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. (Jeremiah 10:2-4, KJV). Christmas traditions in general have often been associated with paganism in 19th century scholarship. Robert Chambers in his 1832 Book of Days notes that the festivities of Christmas originally derived from the Roman Saturnalia , had afterwards been intermingled with the ceremonies observed by the British Druids at the period of winter-solstice, and at a subsequent period became incorporated with the grim mythology of the ancient Saxons. Two popular observances belonging to Christmas are more especially derived from the worship of our pagan ancestorsthe hanging up of the mistletoe and the burning of the Yule log. Regarding the Christmas tree itself, Chambers notes that it seems to be a very ancient custom in Germany, and is probably a remnant of the splendid and fanciful pageants of the middle ages. Other traditions relating to Christmas that may derive from Germanic pagan practices include the Christmas ham, Yule Goat, stuffing stockings, elements of Santa Claus and his nocturnal ride through the sky, and elements of Alpine folklore.[3] There are also some accounts that place the earliest Christmas trees in the Baltic (variously Estonia or Lativa), while in actuality the custom was introduced there in the 1920s. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
Yes - Christmas Trees. You see, Christmas is also a cultural part of America. A recognized federal holiday. Many Jews who are proud of their American Culture take part fully in the American tradition of Christmas, without the religious part of the celebration. They wouldn't dream of casting an insult by changing the name of Christmas. Better to be inclusive and be part of the American holiday. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
Interesting historical perspective about other parts of the world. In my country, a christmas tree has been accepted as a part of the American celebration. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. There has historically been opposition to the custom of the Christmas tree because of its alleged pagan origins. Thus, Oliver Cromwell preached against the heathen traditions of Christmas carols and decorated trees. As pastor Henry Schwan of Cleveland OH in 1851 decorating what was likely the first Christmas tree in an American church. His parishioners condemned the idea as a Pagan practice. There are various legends regarding the origin of the Christmas tree, often relating to Saint Boniface. Thus, in one version, Boniface disrupted a pagan child sacrifice at an oak tree, flattening the oak with a blow of his fist. A small fir sprang up in place of the oak, which Boniface told the pagans represented Christ.[1] In some accounts, Martin Luther is credited with adding lights and decoration to fir branches traditionally hung from ceilings.[2] Condemnation of the Christmas tree as pagan has been based on a passage in Jeremiah, Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. (Jeremiah 10:2-4, KJV). Christmas traditions in general have often been associated with paganism in 19th century scholarship. Robert Chambers in his 1832 Book of Days notes that the festivities of Christmas originally derived from the Roman Saturnalia , had afterwards been intermingled with the ceremonies observed by the British Druids at the period of winter-solstice, and at a subsequent period became incorporated with the grim mythology of the ancient Saxons. Two popular observances belonging to Christmas are more especially derived from the worship of our pagan ancestorsthe hanging up of the mistletoe and the burning of the Yule log. Regarding the Christmas tree itself, Chambers notes that it seems to be a very ancient custom in Germany, and is probably a remnant of the splendid and fanciful pageants of the middle ages. Other traditions relating to Christmas that may derive from Germanic pagan practices include the Christmas ham, Yule Goat, stuffing stockings, elements of Santa Claus and his nocturnal ride through the sky, and elements of Alpine folklore.[3] There are also some accounts that place the earliest Christmas trees in the Baltic (variously Estonia or Lativa), while in actuality the custom was introduced there in the 1920s. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- Christmas is good for the Jews who are in the retail and manufacturing business so yes it's a jewish holiday Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
And can't a manufacturer/merchant call his product what he wants to call them? On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Jack Pitzer wrote: But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
They do all the time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah_bush On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:05 PM, justifiedright wrote: Yes - Christmas Trees. You see, Christmas is also a cultural part of America. A recognized federal holiday. Many Jews who are proud of their American Culture take part fully in the American tradition of Christmas, without the religious part of the celebration. They wouldn't dream of casting an insult by changing the name of Christmas. Better to be inclusive and be part of the American holiday. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
I assume your question is to Jack since the seller is calling them Christmas trees and Jack wonders why he doesn't change it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And can't a manufacturer/merchant call his product what he wants to call them? On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Jack Pitzer wrote: But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
Hmmm I am not sure where this news aired from, but my first question would be: Should we really be out there singing: On the First Day of Christmas, Ma-Tola-Gave-To-Us, a Christmas Tree inside the Car-Rou- Sel? Shouldn't this be a CITY activity, not a DEVELOPER activity? Happy Festival of Lights, Tommy! Yep, I get it. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 ASBURY PARK Madison Marquette will hold this year's holiday tree lighting at 6 p.m. Sunday, Nov. 30, at the Convention Hall Arcade on the boardwalk. Earlier at 3 p.m. Sunday, a free screening of the 1954 movie White Christmas'' with Bing Crosby will be shown in the Paramount Theatre, followed by a performance of Tim McLoone and the Shirleys outside the arcade from 5 to 6 p.m. Madison Marquette's marketing director, Courtney Johnson, said the boardwalk's holiday bazaar officially starts Friday, Nov. 28, with all stores open from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday through Monday and live performances throughout the month. This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands will be sold in the Carousel and the arcade will feature a concierge greeting booth and a 100 Fabulous Gifts'' shop featuring gifts from all the shops on the boardwalk. For more information, call (732) 897-8810. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm I am not sure where this news aired from, but my first question would be: Should we really be out there singing: On the First Day of Christmas, Ma-Tola-Gave-To-Us, a Christmas Tree inside the Car-Rou- Sel? it's on the owner's property, not public. It's the season and real smart they can turn the arcade into a shopping/entertainment center - in December. And it should be good for downtown, who has to learn and take advantage of the boardwalk draw and feed off of it. That's FREE marketing for the downtown and the rest of the city. Learn to capitalize on it. A guy once had a pizzeria. He first complained that McDonalds moved across the street (must of meant he was in a good spot, right). He thought it would hurt his business. In the long run, his business increased and he gained additional parking from the lot and additional traffic get it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
Yep, Oak, I get it... I lost site of the ownership. Man, I was just trying to stand on Tommy's side for once! Thank you for putting the ownership into perspective. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: Hmmm I am not sure where this news aired from, but my first question would be: Should we really be out there singing: On the First Day of Christmas, Ma-Tola-Gave-To-Us, a Christmas Tree inside the Car- Rou- Sel? it's on the owner's property, not public. It's the season and real smart they can turn the arcade into a shopping/entertainment center - in December. And it should be good for downtown, who has to learn and take advantage of the boardwalk draw and feed off of it. That's FREE marketing for the downtown and the rest of the city. Learn to capitalize on it. A guy once had a pizzeria. He first complained that McDonalds moved across the street (must of meant he was in a good spot, right). He thought it would hurt his business. In the long run, his business increased and he gained additional parking from the lot and additional traffic get it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Flexes Political Muscle
You're a piece of work! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope you enjoy this post-election analysis that focuses on Asbury Park. Brim will enjoy it the most. Nice job, Michael. http://tinyurl.com/5dgbt9 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Flexes Political Muscle
Your modesty is appealing Michael, but Democrat voter turnout in Asbury Park is ultimately your responsibility. You deserve to have the credit. Job very well done. Besides, if Democrat voter turnout had been small, you know I'd be blowing you up right now ;-) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Tommy, but it was more than just me! Michael From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of justifiedright Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:28 AM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park Flexes Political Muscle Hope you enjoy this post-election analysis that focuses on Asbury Park. Brim will enjoy it the most. Nice job, Michael. http://tinyurl.com/5dgbt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park v Howell
Howell - 20. Asbury Park - 12. Great game. They may play again in a post season game in AP; I'll let you all know if it happends. After the 1st kick-off there were 4 officials on the field, and they were going to keep time there. The coach of AP objected and wanted official time kept on the scoreboard, which takes an official off the field. It's his right to insist, but it does take a pair of eyes away. The next play when there was 3 officials, there was a Howell TD. Looked to me like he was out of bounds (AP players all pointing to the spot I saw), and ironically, the official keeping time would have been in position to catch it were he down there. Howell was leading 14-0 right before the half. Ran some plays when he could have sat on it (probably trying to get kids plays). Lost the ball and AP scored. Very exciting. Late in the forth it was 14-12 with Howell drinving. 4th down and 8 to go at mid field. Most would have punted. Howell completed a pass play for the 1st that eventually led to a TD. Game ended exciting too, with AP driving. Could have tied the game. Pass intercepted by Howell with short time left. This is Howard Cosell signing off Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park v Howell
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howell - 20. Asbury Park - 12. This is Howard Cosell signing off Of course you're tying in his real education as an attorney... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park v Howell
Don't have a clue! One of Neptune's former players is playing for Marlboro. Don't know which team was discontinued. I did attend Neptune's Homecoming last Saturday. The Class of 1976, was being honored. I notice Asbury Park Pop Warner kids out on the street with buckets, asking for donations. What's up with that? 3 of my kids live in Neptune, which is why I know. Received a call during the Marlboro game that the parents from Marlboro were fighting with the refs! When I was coaching they were doing the same thing, (80's)! Overzealous parents complaining that their kids weren't getting into the game! What can I say? No sportsmanship? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very intriguing Pop Warner game on Sunday afternoon at 4:30 if you are interested. PLEASE READ THIS (particularly the bottom!): Don't know if you've heard about Asbury Park's Pop Warner this year. At one point in the season, not only was every team at every level (mighty might, jr pee wee, pee wee, jr midget and midget) undefeated, BUT EVERY GAME AT EVERY LEVEL WAS A SHUT OUT. Wow. Not sure if that's even changed. For some reason, many kids from Neptune are playing for Asbury. Neptune's program seems decimated. I heard they had to drop one level completely, and when the mighty might team I coach in Howell went to play them, Neptune forfieted for not having enough players. Anyone know what's up with that? Sharon?? Anyway, Howell also has an undefeated team (not sure if it is pee wee or jr midget). They happen to be playing an Asbury team on Sunday. I'll be spotting the game for the announcer. The announcer will be Mike Clark, who graduated APHS with me and coaches with me here in Howell. HOWELL WILL BE PACKED WITH FANS! They moved this game from Saturday because Saturday is Howell Day and the fear was so many people were going to the game that Howell Day would be a bust. Accordingly, to keep Howells 12th man off the field, the Asbury Park kids are going to need many people to come cheer for them, so pass this around and come if you can. Show some Asbury spirit and come support the kids. Everyone's welcome. Should be fun and a great game. Here's where: Howell Pop Warner Complex GSP (N)/(S) Exit 98 Route 138 West, which turns into Interstate 195 West. Continue 2 miles to Exit 31A, Monmouth County Route 547 South. Go 1000 feet to the traffic light and turn right onto Old Tavern Road. The complex will be approx. 500 feet after the railroad crossing, across from the Law Enforcement Center, and Library. Route 9 (Optional) (N)/(S) to Aldrich Road East, and continue to the end. At the yield sign, bear right on Windler Road, and continue 500 feet to Oak Glen Road, turn left. Around the 1st curve, turns into Old Tavern Road. Proceed ½ miles, and just past Preventorium Road, field will be on the right, across from Law Enforcement Center. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park v Howell
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, Howell also has an undefeated team (not sure if it is pee wee or jr midget). They happen to be playing an Asbury team on Sunday. $20 on AP. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park v Howell
No thank you --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Anyway, Howell also has an undefeated team (not sure if it is pee wee or jr midget). They happen to be playing an Asbury team on Sunday. $20 on AP. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
I don't think it's wrong to be critical of the way the system was implemented.This is a system, which people have shown quite a bit of confusion in using - one that had at least one local town (Belmar) eliminate the system for that very reason. The meters also run a good 5 hours longer than any of the nearby towns. I think those two points are definitely worth discussing and debating. dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True I don't get that. The city buys these units and then MM opens free lots. The city should explain to us tax payers The lots will not be free but MM cannot charge to park there until they recieve COs. The city asked MM to open them up free in the interim to help the parking situation. Some of you are too critical even when the city tries to do something good. Damend ifyou do and damned if you don't. The parking meters are good for this city. The implementation was not perfect. People hate change. They will learn to use the system. Parking is never free. There is always a cost. Time for people to grow up. Its not your uncle's AP anymore. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
I have to agree with Gary. The parking meters would be good for the city if they were properly implemented, but they weren't. It was confusing. And it's even more confusing that you can park in a lot for free, but you can also park in a confusing paid parking space , potentially screw up and wind up with a $26 ticket. This whole situation is just bad PR for AP. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's wrong to be critical of the way the system was implemented.This is a system, which people have shown quite a bit of confusion in using - one that had at least one local town (Belmar) eliminate the system for that very reason. The meters also run a good 5 hours longer than any of the nearby towns. I think those two points are definitely worth discussing and debating. dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, nnjallans1@ wrote: True I don't get that. The city buys these units and then MM opens free lots. The city should explain to us tax payers The lots will not be free but MM cannot charge to park there until they recieve COs. The city asked MM to open them up free in the interim to help the parking situation. Some of you are too critical even when the city tries to do something good. Damend ifyou do and damned if you don't. The parking meters are good for this city. The implementation was not perfect. People hate change. They will learn to use the system. Parking is never free. There is always a cost. Time for people to grow up. Its not your uncle's AP anymore. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True I don't get that. The city buys these units and then MM opens free lots. The city should explain to us tax payers The lots will not be free but MM cannot charge to park there until they recieve COs. The city asked MM to open them up free in the interim to help the parking situation. Some of you are too critical even when the city tries to do something good. Damend ifyou do and damned if you don't. The parking meters are good for this city. The implementation was not perfect. People hate change. They will learn to use the system. Parking is never free. There is always a cost. Time for people to grow up. Its not your uncle's AP anymore. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
Who approved this system? Did the PEOPLE know? How many other issues go under the radar? Where did those parking lots come form? They were filled to capacity, but I didn't see any signs with price, entry or whatever it takes to get into one of these lots, in addition to the one over on Kingsley? and Ocean Ave. by the Casino. I don't know this Asbury Park. Oh and upon exiting this lot, they think THEY have the right of way! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding where they should be paying for their spot. New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas where you really have to look quite a distance to find the machine to pay. Jack Pitzer wrote: To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs perhaps 12 by 18 inches directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs perhaps 12 by 18 inches directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs perhaps 12 by 18 inches directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding where they should be paying for their spot. New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas where you really have to look quite a distance to find the machine to pay. Jack Pitzer wrote: To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS • COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU • AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK — City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs — perhaps 12 by 18 inches — directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
This system works in NY. However there are a few signs per block that give direction. If so many tickets are. Being issued then the problem is how the city launched this Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:00:11 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding where they should be paying for their spot. New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas where you really have to look quite a distance to find the machine to pay. Jack Pitzer wrote: To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS • COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU • AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK — City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs — perhaps 12 by 18 inches — directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
The city failed with this parking system on so many different levels. First off, they should've waited till next summer, or until more of the renovation is complete. Secondly, it's confusing people left and right. And if you park too far away from the machines, and don't know that you have to pay to park, and didn't note the space number, you have to walk all the way back to your car. Strike 2. Finally, there is no communication between the city and MM, because MM has free lots at the SP, Casino and the Wonder Bar. People seems to be parking in those, rather then use the pay spaces. I'd do the same thing. Nobody is watching those lots. This is already generating lots of brand new bad publicity for our city. It should. If you get a $26 ticket because the system is confusing, you are gonna tell all your friends about it. I think the city should cancel all of those tickets that were issued and fix things. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This system works in NY. However there are a few signs per block that give direction. If so many tickets are. Being issued then the problem is how the city launched this Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:00:11 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding where they should be paying for their spot. New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas where you really have to look quite a distance to find the machine to pay. Jack Pitzer wrote: To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs perhaps 12 by 18 inches directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
True I don't get that. The city buys these units and then MM opens free lots. The city should explain to us tax payers Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:14:20 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets The city failed with this parking system on so many different levels. First off, they should've waited till next summer, or until more of the renovation is complete. Secondly, it's confusing people left and right. And if you park too far away from the machines, and don't know that you have to pay to park, and didn't note the space number, you have to walk all the way back to your car. Strike 2. Finally, there is no communication between the city and MM, because MM has free lots at the SP, Casino and the Wonder Bar. People seems to be parking in those, rather then use the pay spaces. I'd do the same thing. Nobody is watching those lots. This is already generating lots of brand new bad publicity for our city. It should. If you get a $26 ticket because the system is confusing, you are gonna tell all your friends about it. I think the city should cancel all of those tickets that were issued and fix things. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This system works in NY. However there are a few signs per block that give direction. If so many tickets are. Being issued then the problem is how the city launched this Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:00:11 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding where they should be paying for their spot. New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas where you really have to look quite a distance to find the machine to pay. Jack Pitzer wrote: To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS � COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU � AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK � City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs � perhaps 12 by 18 inches � directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True I don't get that. The city buys these units and then MM opens free lots. The city should explain to us tax payers Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Well, tonight and the other day, the free lots were filled by the WB/ Tonight, I paid .80 to park by north beach. Went to Teak in Red Bank last night. Parked for free. I think it ended at six pm the fees. I only had one ticket in red b - parking in a stall backward - uts illegal in RB. Make that 2 - I read ended someone. Years ago, the lot behind the pony and the old triangle lot were privately owned and the city had meters. Lots of things could be done - like making one of those lots or portions of employee parking only or better yet - don't let the employees drive in. The pay stations are hard to read at night unless they are under a street light. I was at the one tonight at the north corner of the sunset ave pav/ 6th ave. The person on front of me couldn;t pay cuase the machine was having troublr ccepting her paper money. They were trying to pay 2.50 for five hours. It's not just AP, unless the pay stations are in enclosed garage or lot, its hard to know how to, if you and how much. But, I think its a great idea. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Magic
I know what you mean. My boys never forget the night I took them to Asbury in the winter and we spent the night throwing snowballs at Tillie. Memories. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was at the Stone Pony with my kid Wed night and the Fireworks on the beach were awsome. Thank you Asbury Park. I love sharing moments like that with my kids. Its a memory you never forget. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Boardwalk and Olympic Baseball in article....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting commentary in this article the other day. ... as a follow-up to that previous post about that- the writer must not have been in AP recently - or for a long time, but while in Bejing, SOMETHING reminded him AP. I sent him an email to find out what. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Hotel and Conference Center......
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple interesting notes. 1. Anyone ever see the concepts of the BW on diplay at North Beach? By GP ARchitects Then this one - the Asbury PArk Hotel and Conference Center http://www.diguiseppe.com/design/images/projects/hotels/Asbury% 20Park/Title%20Page%20-%20Asbury%20Park.html Is this a current concept or a previous one? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Art: Fourth Avenue and Main Street
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linda Griggs (http://lindagriggs.com http://lindagriggs.com ) obtained permission from the property owner of the old fueling station on the corner of Main Street and Fourth Avenue to create a mural. Here are some pictures of Linda's work in progress, these pictures have been provided to me by Linda with permission to post them. Please note that the mural is removeable and may disappear at any time, so, grab your own photos quickly! Linda will continue enhancing the mural for as long as it remains: BEFORE: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2712037116/ AFTER: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2712037014/ After AFTER With Detail: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2711224747/ I'll be sure to get my camera and get some shots of this beautiful mural! Excellent work!!! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Art: Fourth Avenue and Main Street
It's beautiful, like the artist! Thanks, Linda --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linda Griggs (http://lindagriggs.com http://lindagriggs.com ) obtained permission from the property owner of the old fueling station on the corner of Main Street and Fourth Avenue to create a mural. Here are some pictures of Linda's work in progress, these pictures have been provided to me by Linda with permission to post them. Please note that the mural is removeable and may disappear at any time, so, grab your own photos quickly! Linda will continue enhancing the mural for as long as it remains: BEFORE: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2712037116/ AFTER: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2712037014/ After AFTER With Detail: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2711224747/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
There are places that protect scenic and historic views. Didn't anyone think of that before putting up those shacks? I've always appreciated when I have good photo opportunities. That fortune teller place is known around the world and certainly should have been protected. Its changed for the worse. It used to be a white building and the one nextdoor (bandstand) was orange. A great classic Asbury image from the boardwalk. Now its blue with a yellow building behind it as viewed looking NW. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your point about taking that picture is a good one. People from all over the world who are Bruce fans come to Asbury to take pictures like the one you mentioned. I met one of these people once in Germany, and she has a photo album with a pic of her standing next to Madam Marie's. An entire side of that building is now obscured by a shipping container. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap newbeetoap@ wrote: That was my impression too, they are awful. This was brought up here before they were even put in. Seems really cheap and tasteless. They block the views down the street too. Madam Marie is really squeezed in now so I cant get a good classic picture anymore. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap wonderwomanator@ wrote: I'm going to Rant so be prepared folks! I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using shipping containers painted white as storefronts? My God they are hideous!!! They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers whatever it may be is too much. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
That was my impression too, they are awful. This was brought up here before they were even put in. Seems really cheap and tasteless. They block the views down the street too. Madam Marie is really squeezed in now so I cant get a good classic picture anymore. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to Rant so be prepared folks! I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using shipping containers painted white as storefronts? My God they are hideous!!! They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers whatever it may be is too much. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
Your point about taking that picture is a good one. People from all over the world who are Bruce fans come to Asbury to take pictures like the one you mentioned. I met one of these people once in Germany, and she has a photo album with a pic of her standing next to Madam Marie's. An entire side of that building is now obscured by a shipping container. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my impression too, they are awful. This was brought up here before they were even put in. Seems really cheap and tasteless. They block the views down the street too. Madam Marie is really squeezed in now so I cant get a good classic picture anymore. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap wonderwomanator@ wrote: I'm going to Rant so be prepared folks! I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using shipping containers painted white as storefronts? My God they are hideous!!! They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers whatever it may be is too much. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap wonderwomanator@ wrote: I am a City Planner by education. I took many classes on Architecture and Urban Design . They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) As a city planner what are your thoughts on having anything in those spaces, regardless of how they look? I'm sure you know the history and reasoning behind the flared streets between Ocean and Kingsley that correspond to those spaces. Is it worth it lose that air flow and those sightlines in order to gain whatever rent they're making on those containers? That's another point altogether! I think that the thought that went into the initial design of the street plan was visionary. You have to admit that the wide streets at the oceanside do allow some great circulation to the uppper blocks in town,(of which I'm a beneficiary!) If you compare Asbury design to say the obstruction of the oceanfront in Long Branch you can see what extreme building conveysthe beach is only for some people...for example. You raise some good points. I had only been thinking about the facade factor when I initially posted. Open spaces between the pavillions does make sense if you are keeping with historical design standards. It makes additional sense if you keep in mind environmental problems of today. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
- in Long Branch you can see what extreme building conveysthe beach is only for some people...for example. While the shops in LB (and AP) may be for some people - the beaches aren't and won't be. I've sat in the middle of Pier village on the beach - and it's probably the most diversified beach in M county. And if you want to see how the women from South America wear a bikini - that's the place to go. Drive through Sea Bright - now that's really excluding some people. And I'm one of the some (unless some other one invites me...then I have to decide if I realy feel like being proper all day...or if I want to hear about someone else s problems...) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using shipping containers painted white as storefronts? My God they are hideous!!! They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers whatever it may be is too much. David Rockwell's latest design phase. Xanadu has a similar look. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a City Planner by education. I took many classes on Architecture and Urban Design . They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) As a city planner what are your thoughts on having anything in those spaces, regardless of how they look? I'm sure you know the history and reasoning behind the flared streets between Ocean and Kingsley that correspond to those spaces. Is it worth it lose that air flow and those sightlines in order to gain whatever rent they're making on those containers? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever see a jewish kid selling xmas trees and homemade wreaths? From whom do you think the goyum buy their crosses from? Priest: 100 crucifixes please Vendor: mit or mitout the jesuses? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
I was in Israel about 10 years ago on business. We visited the old city of Jerusalem on our day off. A large part of it kind of reminded me of Collingswood Auction. There were little shops run by Christians, Jews, and Muslims, and they were all selling each others icons. Didn't see many Buddahs or Kalis, though... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Ever see a jewish kid selling xmas trees and homemade wreaths? From whom do you think the goyum buy their crosses from? Priest: 100 crucifixes please Vendor: mit or mitout the jesuses? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \ From whom do you think the goyum buy their crosses from? Priest: 100 crucifixes please Vendor: mit or mitout the jesuses? The funny part of the xmas trees was my firend's brother went to Brooklyn to buy a trailer of trees. When they delivered them and started unbundeling them, they weren't exactly full. So we took wire and sold 2 for 1 tie them together for one good tree and the rest we chopped up and made grave blankets or wreaths. Things you can't learn in school. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park ?
Self-interested speculation?... quality rather than quantity...? Perhaps Asbury Park, Asbury Partners and MM need a history lesson. from the Chicago Plan website ... there was too much ugliness and squalor. The planners blamed this condition on uncontrolled development and self-interested speculation. The Plan maintains that the issue facing Chicago is no longer expansion but conservation, quality rather than quantity of life. Time and again, it declares that a city's social, cultural, and financial well-being are inseparable. The constant struggle of civilization is to know and to attain the highest good, it states, and the city which brings about the best conditions of life becomes the most prosperous. Lack of planning had wasted time, effort, and money, - (Note that last line) Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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First people said no one will come to Asbury. Now its there is grid lock because too many people are coming to Asbury. My coworkers who visited asbury could not believe all the events that were going on. Yup they had to drive around to find parking near North Beach, but they also paid $150/cple
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(Con't) they paid $150/cple to eat at Salt Water. They loved it and raved about how much asbury has progressed. They are planning on going back this weekend. I like the way the pavilions look. Could they be better? Sure. Am I going to complain..nope. The people are coming and everyone is having a good time. Isn't that what the boardwalk is supposed to present? A good time. Did anyone try the Cuban sandwiches? They are great!
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John Lorenzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has gotten too crowded TOO fast! Bikes are now banned after 12 Noon I just got bike from my night time trip to ralph's. A cop told two people with dogs to leave and a kid on a bike I think after 9 pm it should be ok A couple signs on what IS coming next should be splurged on. A nice big waterpark sign, some temp lighting om the closed buildings would help as well. Lot of people still have no idea waht is going on. Also, this is summer. If you already have an operating business on the BW, BE OPEN at night. A boardwalk business is not meant to be open from 10-5pm. It's a BOARDWALK. It;s SUMMER, Be open to at least 10 pm. Even it's DEAD. There were 20 people playing golf. 20 x 5 = $100. 100 x 10 hours - $1,000. Get it? Surprised MM hasn't put in SOH = standard operating hours. I would. I did it when I was there - regardless of weather i the summer. We could do more biz when we went real nuts and reopened from 11pm - 2am. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I absolutely agree that bikes should be allowed after 9 pm, but only on weekdays. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John Lorenzo johnmenc@ wrote: It has gotten too crowded TOO fast! Bikes are now banned after 12 Noon I just got bike from my night time trip to ralph's. A cop told two people with dogs to leave and a kid on a bike I think after 9 pm it should be ok A couple signs on what IS coming next should be splurged on. A nice big waterpark sign, some temp lighting om the closed buildings would help as well. Lot of people still have no idea waht is going on. Also, this is summer. If you already have an operating business on the BW, BE OPEN at night. A boardwalk business is not meant to be open from 10-5pm. It's a BOARDWALK. It;s SUMMER, Be open to at least 10 pm. Even it's DEAD. There were 20 people playing golf. 20 x 5 = $100. 100 x 10 hours - $1,000. Get it? Surprised MM hasn't put in SOH = standard operating hours. I would. I did it when I was there - regardless of weather i the summer. We could do more biz when we went real nuts and reopened from 11pm - 2am. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In a message dated 7/14/2008 9:49:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surprised MM hasn't put in SOH = standard operating hours. I would. I did it when I was there - regardless of weather i the summer. SOH are S.O.P. even at Collingwood Flea Market. **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112)
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SOH are S.O.P. even at Collingwood Flea Market. did that as well. Ever see a jewish kid selling xmas trees and homemade wreaths? I need pickles. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In a message dated 7/14/2008 9:49:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surprised MM hasn't put in SOH = standard operating hours. Coincidentally, I ran into two out-of-town friends around 6 tonight. The were on Sunset, headed to the boardwalk. When I mentioned the crods and parking situation this past weekend, they were skeptical because they work weekends and can only do the boards on week nights. Based on your report of the closed shops tonight, I doubt they'll be any less skeptical. Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Michelangelo **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112)
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at 8 30 ralphs, pottery, style was closing around 9, eddie ice cream, cuban were open - as were salt water, biggies, tooles and b. bar. not bad actually - more then ever opened. And Im sure once the bars are open on the bw, there will be alot more peopleand stores open. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe Monmouth doesn't do well enough to spend on such an attraction. One that may not give back much. Guess who owned a piece of M Mall along with Vornado REalty trust - one of the largest in the world - Kushner. I believe it was recently sold - the mall. I believe of the brooklyn/deal boys. I have to learn that when someone says I'm looking for something big...like Monmouth Mall to believe them. Even if it's a kid. A kid who as sent out to learn the ropes. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
Glenn, You're absolutely right! Why doesn't the hypocrisy of it all, NOT surprise me? At the 110th Anniversary, thing, the Carousel was used for the cake, but still, no carousel in the city, except in our minds, which I lost a long time ago! My mind, that is! Well, the snow is falling and AP schools are open, as usual! Seems they'd give these kids ONE snow day, since they haven't had any all year! As far as the Chamber, it's just a popularity contest, as far as I'm concerned. Name me one member, no 2, that live here! A lot of what goes on here, is just so window dressing! Too many restaurants, with no real business, here. Well, at least Tommy is consistent, with being a Republican; seems he owns an oil business, here! Read it in the paper. Weldon's pensions suspended. Have mixed feelings over that. His firemen's pension, shouldn't have been involved. Seems he earned that. He still has his family. Sorry folks, they shouldn't have to pay for his mistakes. Alright, I've donned my flame-retardant, suit. Flame, away! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uhm, CAROUSEL Awards? Hve any of these people noticed that there is not ONE Carousel left? Just my two cents. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards Winners _The Coaster » Blog Archive » Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards Winners_ (http://thecoaster.net/wordpress/?p=2178) Thursday, February 21, 2008, 1:33 pm Madison Marquette, who has taken the lead in the retail and entertainment segment of Asbury Parkâs beachfront redevelopment, will be honored with the Economic Development Award by the Asbury Park Chamber of Commerce at the Carousel Awards Dinner April 10. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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You took the words, right out of my mouth! These 34 to 40 somethings, don't want anything, but singles stuff and their little martini bars and beach houses! I came to the boardwalk, to have a kosher hot dog and REAL lemonade! The fresh air and the funny looking fat/skinny and buffed boys and girls, taking the surf! The sounds of summer and the isolation in winter, when you had the BW to yourself! Would see dogs being walked, a lone runner or goofy me, walking the boards. Now, you have to contend with those who think they knowitall about US! For those who remember miniature golf and the cutesy rides for kids, go to seaside Hts., there's nothing here for YOU! Chuck, it would please me so much to see just one iota, one thing; a carousel! Is that too much to ask for? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the feeling MM is not planning to cater to a boardwalk filled with children. When they first showed their plans in City Council there was nothing for children except a candy store with walls of candy. They did not mention the water park that was proposed in the app. MM in my opinion is gearing the boardwalk to the people they will need to fill the Condos that will be built on Ocean Ave. The Condos being built are for couples with no children. I can remember the days when I was young and living in South Belmar how we came to Asbury Park on special occasions ie Easter, Children's Day for the amusement rides. Is there still such a thing as children's day. MM is not interested in history. If Ap could survive on history there would be no need to do anything to the buildings on the BW except some paint. The Boardwalk that we knew is HISTORY. In someways I agree that we need to move on to bigger and better things, but MM cannot forget the families in AP because some of us are here for life. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sounds of summer and the isolation in winter, when you had the BW to yourself! The problem was not just the isolation in the winter, but the isolation in the summer. And don't forget, bringing events back to CH year round - like the old days. The off months were ceramic shows, boat shows and more. Ceramic shows were the almost the best weekends of the year and that was around Feb - march if i can think back that far. It wasn't kids or 30's somethings. It was busloads and busloads of seniors getting off at CH or Michael's and eating. What creates memories is a starting point with a family To assume that a childless couple will be buying a condo is simply wrong and could be what didn't exactly help anyone's condo sale s in AP. Example - an empty nester coouple from Morriss Plains - retired. Grandkids. House in Florida, Morris Plains, kids in PA and Virginia. They want to summer in AP most of the time, keep house in Morris Plains and head to Fl in October. They have $1m to spend. Why were they turned off? A) they were trying to accomoodate their lifestyle (grandchildren, kids..) B) unable to select a unit or had limited choice -take it or leave it C) unsure of what the grandkids would do (pool was a real plus) d) time frame for development One of these days there's going to be a huge outlet center off 66 and the parkway. You have a few new motels that sprung up from the collingswood circle to 66. You hvae a few more that want space. Seaview Sq is continuing to grow. Burlingtong going in plus a few more not named, Value City out. Burlington taking part of the old lowe's.. I would guess MM has a good idea fo what THEY think will work and how they will make it pay off. IF there is one smart old time operator on the BW, they will be able to take advantage, keep to tradition and do very, very well, There's a way to make it kid friendly were it doesn't turn out like seaside nor as kid friendly as Point. Grandma grandma grandma take me to thelet's see what MM comes up with, PS: My son makes a good martini Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn, You're absolutely right! Why doesn't the hypocrisy of it all, NOT surprise me? At the 110th Anniversary, thing, the Carousel was used for the cake, but still, no carousel in the city, except in our minds, I'll go out on a limb here - the STUPIDEST thing MM can do is to NOT put the (a) carousel back in the Casino. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Glenn, You're absolutely right! Why doesn't the hypocrisy of it all, NOT surprise me? At the 110th Anniversary, thing, the Carousel was used for the cake, but still, no carousel in the city, except in our minds, I'll go out on a limb here - the STUPIDEST thing MM can do is to NOT put the (a) carousel back in the Casino. == Stupid is, as stupid does... The track record for common sense and visionary thinking in this redevelopment speaks for itself. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
I'll go out on a limb here - the STUPIDEST thing MM can do is to NOT put the (a) carousel back in the Casino. I hope they do put it back. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
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You can say that, again! Hell, Oak, I make a good martini! Werner, why ask why? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Glenn, You're absolutely right! Why doesn't the hypocrisy of it all, NOT surprise me? At the 110th Anniversary, thing, the Carousel was used for the cake, but still, no carousel in the city, except in our minds, I'll go out on a limb here - the STUPIDEST thing MM can do is to NOT put the (a) carousel back in the Casino. == Stupid is, as stupid does... The track record for common sense and visionary thinking in this redevelopment speaks for itself. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
Uhm, CAROUSEL Awards? Hve any of these people noticed that there is not ONE Carousel left? Just my two cents. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards Winners _The Coaster » Blog Archive » Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards Winners_ (http://thecoaster.net/wordpress/?p=2178) Thursday, February 21, 2008, 1:33 pm Madison Marquette, who has taken the lead in the retail and entertainment segment of Asbury Parkâs beachfront redevelopment, will be honored with the Economic Development Award by the Asbury Park Chamber of Commerce at the Carousel Awards Dinner April 10. The dinner will be held at the Berkeley Hotel in Asbury Park. The Chamber of Commerce presents the Carousel Awards to businesses and individuals in Asbury Park in recognition of their exceptional contributions to the community. Madison Marquette was nominated for their commitment to revitalizing Asbury Parkâs economy as well as their commitment to the community. According to one nominator, âIt is my sense that Madison Marquette is here for the âlong haulâ and will provide opportunities for economic development into the future.â The Business Achievement Award goes to Market in the Middle Owner Marilyn Schlossbach, a âsuccessful businesswoman (who) combines food and wine with art, culture, civic and charitable function,â according to one nominator. âMarket In the Middle is a business that raises the bar and sets a higher standard for all the businesses in Asbury Park.â The Spirit of Asbury Award honoree is Father David Stout of Trinity Church. Father Stout was cited for the unprecedented growth of his congregation since his arrival in Asbury in 2004 and the many outreach programs he has been instrumental in developing. The Landmark Business Award is presented to The Hardware Store of Asbury Park. Located on the corner of Main and Summerfield for the past 20 years and owned and managed by Sam Vaccaro and his family, the store was cited for its rare ability to thrive and prosper in spite of the competition from the âbig box â stores. The Public Official Award this year goes to Asbury Park Mayor Kevin Sanders. Mayor Sandersâ passion for Asbury Park, the place where he grew up and now lives with his wife and five children, is apparent. He has been instrumental in leading Asburyâs economic and civic rebirth. The Carousel Awards will be presented at a dinner to be held on Thurs., April 10 at the Berkeley Hotel in Asbury Park. **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel- campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
Uhm, CAROUSEL Awards? Hve any of these people noticed that there is not ONE Carousel left? Just my two cents. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards Winners _The Coaster » Blog Archive » Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards Winners_ (http://thecoaster.net/wordpress/?p=2178) Thursday, February 21, 2008, 1:33 pm Madison Marquette, who has taken the lead in the retail and entertainment segment of Asbury Parkâs beachfront redevelopment, will be honored with the Economic Development Award by the Asbury Park Chamber of Commerce at the Carousel Awards Dinner April 10. The dinner will be held at the Berkeley Hotel in Asbury Park. The Chamber of Commerce presents the Carousel Awards to businesses and individuals in Asbury Park in recognition of their exceptional contributions to the community. Madison Marquette was nominated for their commitment to revitalizing Asbury Parkâs economy as well as their commitment to the community. According to one nominator, âIt is my sense that Madison Marquette is here for the âlong haulâ and will provide opportunities for economic development into the future.â The Business Achievement Award goes to Market in the Middle Owner Marilyn Schlossbach, a âsuccessful businesswoman (who) combines food and wine with art, culture, civic and charitable function,â according to one nominator. âMarket In the Middle is a business that raises the bar and sets a higher standard for all the businesses in Asbury Park.â The Spirit of Asbury Award honoree is Father David Stout of Trinity Church. Father Stout was cited for the unprecedented growth of his congregation since his arrival in Asbury in 2004 and the many outreach programs he has been instrumental in developing. The Landmark Business Award is presented to The Hardware Store of Asbury Park. Located on the corner of Main and Summerfield for the past 20 years and owned and managed by Sam Vaccaro and his family, the store was cited for its rare ability to thrive and prosper in spite of the competition from the âbig box â stores. The Public Official Award this year goes to Asbury Park Mayor Kevin Sanders. Mayor Sandersâ passion for Asbury Park, the place where he grew up and now lives with his wife and five children, is apparent. He has been instrumental in leading Asburyâs economic and civic rebirth. The Carousel Awards will be presented at a dinner to be held on Thurs., April 10 at the Berkeley Hotel in Asbury Park. **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel- campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uhm, CAROUSEL Awards? Hve any of these people noticed that there is not ONE Carousel left? Just my two cents. == Actually - there are no Carousels left just a Carousel House. There were at one time 3 Carousels around Wesley Lake; 1 in OG and 2 in AP. I predict that the Casino Carousel House will be turned into a food court...a replica (wink,wink) of the one at Monmouth Mall. (Hey isn't that one supposed to be an interpretation of the 'Real' Casino Carousel House right here in AP ???) Round and Round we go.. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I predict that the Casino Carousel House will be turned into a food court...a replica (wink,wink) of the one at Monmouth Mall. (Hey isn't that one supposed to be an interpretation of the 'Real' Casino Carousel House right here in AP ???) I think the boardwalk idea at Monmouth mall was based off of AP. There intended to be a carousel in the center food court area. accross from what is now Old Navy? You can see the round shape on the floor, and the circular support system above it. It was designed for it... but i think time showed it would be a waste to add it. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
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I'd like to see a carousel in the Corousel House again, but i don't think its possable at this point. Look at the direction the boardwalk is going in I don't think it would fit in with the stuff planned for the boardwalk. Times can change though, who knows! I doubt it though... I was sitting behind members of MM at a previous counsil meeting. A frequent towns person wondered over and began asking questions about amusments and other boardwalk attractions (like the water park he had heard of as being part of MM's plan). Their answer to his questions was no.. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was designed for it... but i think time showed it would be a waste to add it. It's not a waste. It's an attraction. Go to freehold mall. food court, ride and guess what - lots of bored surburban parents bringing their kids, riding the carousel, taking pics and enjoying that few minutes of quality time on the ride then the food court. You want people to come down even in bad weather? You need a reason, other then for a sit down $30 pp affair. Not that people won't come for that buttake a look at a carnival trailer midway with cotton candy, popcorn and soda. Bring me the $. That and a ride like a carousel next to it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
I have the feeling MM is not planning to cater to a boardwalk filled with children. When they first showed their plans in City Council there was nothing for children except a candy store with walls of candy. They did not mention the water park that was proposed in the app. MM in my opinion is gearing the boardwalk to the people they will need to fill the Condos that will be built on Ocean Ave. The Condos being built are for couples with no children. I can remember the days when I was young and living in South Belmar how we came to Asbury Park on special occasions ie Easter, Children's Day for the amusement rides. Is there still such a thing as children's day. MM is not interested in history. If Ap could survive on history there would be no need to do anything to the buildings on the BW except some paint. The Boardwalk that we knew is HISTORY. In someways I agree that we need to move on to bigger and better things, but MM cannot forget the families in AP because some of us are here for life. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to see a carousel in the Corousel House again, but i don't think its possable at this point. Look at the direction the boardwalk is going in I don't think it would fit in with the stuff planned for the boardwalk. Times can change though, who knows! I doubt it though... I was sitting behind members of MM at a previous counsil meeting. A frequent towns person wondered over and began asking questions about amusments and other boardwalk attractions (like the water park he had heard of as being part of MM's plan). Their answer to his questions was no.. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
Never was a waste, and it definitely wouldn't be. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie oceanchuck@ wrote: It was designed for it... but i think time showed it would be a waste to add it. It's not a waste. It's an attraction. Go to freehold mall. food court, ride and guess what - lots of bored surburban parents bringing their kids, riding the carousel, taking pics and enjoying that few minutes of quality time on the ride then the food court. You want people to come down even in bad weather? You need a reason, other then for a sit down $30 pp affair. Not that people won't come for that buttake a look at a carnival trailer midway with cotton candy, popcorn and soda. Bring me the $. That and a ride like a carousel next to it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
You need a reason, other then for a sit down $30 pp affair. Not that people won't come for that buttake a look at a carnival trailer midway with cotton candy, popcorn and soda. Bring me the $. That and a ride like a carousel next to it. I see your point about the Freehold Mall... But i guess Monmouth Mall didn't see as a draw or people, otherwise why would have wente through and built it. They've had quite a few years between now and when the boardwalk additions were added on. Ah, who knows! Carnival rides, cotton candy, and others are good attractions. However, it's kind of obvious that isn't the image the boardwalk is going for. Like it or hate it, that appears to be what's going on! - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
I have the feeling MM is not planning to cater to a boardwalk filled with children. When they first showed their plans in City Council there was nothing for children except a candy store with walls of candy. They did not mention the water park that was proposed in the app. MM in my opinion is gearing the boardwalk to the people they will need to fill the Condos that will be built on Ocean Ave. The Condos being built are for couples with no children. Exactly. I wish it were different. Do you really picture a boardwalk filled teens and screaming kids, while there are million dollar condos only feet away on the other side of Ocean ave? I highly doubt it. But again, we will have to wait and see what happens. As the post up top mentions, MM didn't mention anything about a water park really. They said they had ideas for it, but i'm guessing it's nothing major or else they would have had it ready. Maybe it wasn't mentioned beasue it's not part of the summer 08'? - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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These are just thoughts, i have no idea if they're true. Maybe the freehold mall has their double decker carousel becasue they can afford it? Does the Freehold Mall bring in a large profit? From the area, and the percentage of high end stores, i'm guesing yes. It may have been an attraction, something done becasue they could afford to do it. Weather it makes money or it doesn't, it brings in people. But that could only have been done becasue the mall in general brings in enough extra money. Maybe Monmouth doesn't do well enough to spend on such an attraction. One that may not give back much. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park preservationists trying to form commission
Nostalgia Nazi. Bunch of nonsense. Someone posted my column about the Baronet in the files section of this group, which sums up my thoughts on the issue. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YES, a historic preservation commission is need for Asbury Park! A great deal of work is needed to preserve properties here! In September 2005 the Asbury Park Historical Society listed two sites which needed to be saved (Casion/Heating Plant; Metropolitan; Charms/Elks; The Ambassador; 5th Ave Pavilion; Baronet, et al; Savoy; Convention Hall; Steinbach Bldg; The Jersey; Stone Pony; 3 houses on Webb (2 on 6th 1 on 7th); Belmont/Atlantic; Berkeley- Carteret; Winsor Bldg on Main Bangs; Library Square; North AP Train Station; Post Office' The Brittwood; Geo Wurt's [306 8th]). One property listed as lost on the September 2005 inventory was the Park Cinema. The Society also need to look at the historic buildings in other parts of the city as well as the ones listed above. Michael From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/29 Tue AM 10:17:43 CST To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park preservationists trying to form commission Asbury Park preservationists trying to form commission By Nancy Shields ÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂ COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU ÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂ January 29, 2008 ASBURY PARK ÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂ Donald Sammet, the city's director of planning and redevelopment, will speak on forming a historic preservation commission at the Asbury Park Historical Society's annual organization meeting at 7 p.m. Thursday at the library, 500 First Ave. Johna Karpinski, who is expected to continue as the society's president, wants a commission to be established to help save some city buildings under threat of demolition. Karpinski has worked to try to save the long-vacant Metropolitan Hotel on Asbury Avenue and the downtown Charms Building. She said in a telephone interview that she was very encouraged that Gary Mottola, president of investments for Madison Marquette, the beachfront redeveloper, is going to try to save the Charms Building. It seems as though they're really committed to moving forward, even in this economic and real estate environment, Karpinski said. The historical society also is sponsoring an Asbury Park memorabilia showcase in the library's reading room. The exhibit contains memorabilia from society trustee Don Stine's Antic Hay book business that will be displayed in a 13-foot glass showcase in the library room, Stine said. There's going to be Victorian, business and rustic souvenirs, like deer-foot letter openers, old plates, boot lace tighteners, Victorian ceramics, clamshell purses and a sort of traveling makeup mirror, Stine said. For more information, call (732) 774-4590. Michael W. Brim 321 Sunset Ave. 5F Asbury Park NJ 07712 Cell: 732-996-8160 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park preservationists trying to form commission
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not demolotion the Metropolitan and build something identical but new in its likeness. A Metropolitan style hotel with up to date ammenities might do very well. Considering that the building always had a for sale sign on it but was never sold again and NOTHING was ever done to save it AND the city declared it a disaster (after all these years)AND it does NOTHING for the TAX base... Start Over. Build something that repsects the park and the immediate area. - It will have undergound parking, ocean or lake views and park views. There's a real popular park (or 2) in NYC where people pay a ton to live across from. Collect taxes vs doodling. DING. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park preservationists trying to form commission
Why not demolotion the Metropolitan and build something identical but new in its likeness. A Metropolitan style hotel with up to date ammenities might do very well. My guess is the Charms is more worth saving structurally. I know that isn't ideal to the preservationists but it is a happy medium. It also takes into account that this stuff doesn't take place in a vacuum, it requires money. NOticeably absent from any of these discussions on saving buildings is an accurate assessment of the cost to restore and what the payback would be. I know payback isn't important for some but it matters for anyone who is going to put one nickel into a project. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park couple jailed, accused of having drugs, porn around children
These so-called parents, should have sought help, for themselves! The vicious cycle of adults, using drugs in front of kids, is the height of irresponsibility! Instead of treatment, they'll probably get jail time. The kids, will be raised parentless! THEY are the victims in this vicious system! I don't see anything stellar about this article. Another family is shattered! Pray for the chidren! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, it's ridiculous. This literally could have happened anywhere, and if it did happen in another town the headline would have simply read Couple jailed, accused of having drugs, porn around children. The fact that they are from AP is irrevelant in this case. In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Jeeze, can we not get a break here? Another stellar article in the APP that's just going to cause more people to trash our cityit never ends. It's not the APP's fault that these things happen though, in truth this could've happened anywhere, but because it's in AP... Asbury Park couple jailed, accused of having drugs, porn around children BY ED JOHNSON STAFF WRITER JANUARY 18, 2008 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park couple jailed, accused of having drugs, porn around children
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, FleurDeLis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These so-called parents, should have sought help, for themselves! The vicious cycle of adults, using drugs in front of kids, is the height of irresponsibility! Instead of treatment, they'll probably get jail time. Doubt it. IUnless it's not their first offense. Even then, there is plenty of help offered in M County. My sis works for the PTI program (Pre trial intervention). Kids and adults from AP, rumson etc - unemployed, the doctors, teachers, moms and dads , single parents and more. So lets stop thinking about how unfair the system is and more so what someone is doing wrong. You can $500k per year and wind up in front of her cause you have a fancy lawyer or $5,000 per year and still see her with a court appoined lawyer, counselor and programs to help. It's about time to stop blaming the system (of course there are problems) but - there is still that OPPORTUNITY to be a benefit to a community vs benefiting FROM the system. That's why there is jail. Imagine a conversation in my mothers every thrusday night whne my sister talks in general about someones thurd time going through PTI. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
