Need Urgent Help---IPSec
Hello, I'm trying to set up a VPN between a branch office and corporate site. The problem I have now is DNS set up. Ideally, people at branch office can go to Internet and corporate at the same time. At branch office, all the PC (95/98/NT/2000) are set up that ISP DNS sever as primary and corporate DNS as secondary. However, windows only uses first DNS to resolve names so users can not use corporate DNS. If I change corporat DNS as primary, ISP DNS as secondary, users can't use ISP DNS. Is there anyway to force windows machine use second DNS if no response from first DNS (or maybe change timeout)? I don't want to put HOSTS file on all users machine. Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: atm address question
The ATM address is used during call setup . Once a data direct exists data is switched using ´VPI/VCI pair´ . If you look at a trace you will not find the ATM address . flem --- Zhang Jin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear group: > > I found confused with ATM address ,my question is > you know,atm > connection is established by VPI/VCI pair,so where > is the 20 bytes atm > address encapsulated? > > dean > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more > information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need Urgent Help---IPSec
Set the clients to use the corporate DNS as primary - no secondary, and then configure the corporate DNS to use the Internet DNS roots (hints file) - this assumes that the corporate has a transparent connection to the Internet. See for bind 8 based systems - http://www.linux.com/howto/DNS-HOWTO-5.html (full FAQ at http://www.linux.com/howto/DNS-HOWTO.html) See for bind 4 based systems - http://www.math.uio.no/~janl/DNS/DNS-HOWTO-5.html (full FAQ at http://www.math.uio.no/~janl/DNS/DNS-HOWTO.html) Brian -Original Message- From: Jim Bond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Need Urgent Help---IPSec Hello, I'm trying to set up a VPN between a branch office and corporate site. The problem I have now is DNS set up. Ideally, people at branch office can go to Internet and corporate at the same time. At branch office, all the PC (95/98/NT/2000) are set up that ISP DNS sever as primary and corporate DNS as secondary. However, windows only uses first DNS to resolve names so users can not use corporate DNS. If I change corporat DNS as primary, ISP DNS as secondary, users can't use ISP DNS. Is there anyway to force windows machine use second DNS if no response from first DNS (or maybe change timeout)? I don't want to put HOSTS file on all users machine. Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco ITO
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Mark Vicuna wrote: > its all on the documentation cd.. otherwise if you really want to buy the > publication.. look for ciscopress, internetworking technologies handbook, 2nd > ed. The thing is, is the ITO really the same as the ITH? Ok, so the Documentation CD contains the ITO.that makes sense. What about the ITM, do you have to buy the "Documentation Training CD" to get that, or does that too come on the standard Documentation CD...since they sell two CD's the Documentation CD (which usually comes with IOS) and the Documentation Training CD (which I have never actually seen). In the CCIE lab, i assume you are given the normal Documentation CD (not the training one) Brian > > hth, > mark. > > > > > > Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/10/2000 11:46:00 > > Please respond to Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc:(bcc: Mark Vicuna/Sydney/CDM) > > Subject: Cisco ITO > > > > > On the CCIE Blueprint it says you can order the Internetwork Technologies > Overview (ITO) at Cisco.com marketplace using DOC-785777. I have been > unable to find how to do this though. Does anyone know where you can get > the ITO, preferrably printedbut I would take cdrom as well. I > know its online at cisco.com, but I am needing it for times when I don't > have access to cisco.com directly. > > Thanks, > > Brian > > > --- > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Network Administrator > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DC Router Roast Saturday Oct. 14
Dear Friends, It's time for our October Router Roast. Saturday Oct. 14th, 10 am to 4 pm. Place - Bruce's House 1607 Thomas Rd, Fort Washington, MD 20744 We are going to set up some Lab Scenarios and do a bit of Troubleshooting, then have Lunch. Looking for a special Guest speaker for this time, so if you have a topic and feel like talking a bit about it let us know! (please - no politics! We just do routing and switching...) Yours Truly - Bruce Evry, who is off to Baltimore now to teach his very first official Cisco class!! DIRECTIONS TO THE HOUSE 1607 Thomas Road, Friendly, MD 20744 >From Maryland take I-95 to exit 3a in MD, >From Virginia take Exit 2 in MD To the Indian Head Highway South. Go about 3 miles, turn Left on Old Fort Road. Go exactly 2 miles on Old Fort Road, Turn Right on Thomas Road. We are 1607 Thomas Rd, almost all the way down the street on the left. Look for bright signs & a long gravel driveway With no House visible from street! If lost, our phone # is 301-292-5231, call us! **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCMSN exam question type--help
You cannot review. You can review on CID and CCIE I believe. good luck On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Zhang Jin wrote: > Dear group, > > I will take BCMSN exam day after tomorrow,Who can tell me the exam > questions' type.And Could I back to review my answers after filled? > > thank you in advance. > > dean > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michigan Cisco Users Group
Come to the Great Lakes Cisco Users Group - http://www.glcug.com/ All interested individuals are invited. Group open to all companies. Become part of the only Detroit based Cisco Users Group. Location: Compuware Cafeteria Date: October 25, 2000 Time: 6:30 PM Attendance: Open Meeting Topics October: ATM vs GIGABIT Ethernet * Presented by Cisco Systems Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free!
Palm Question
Does anybody know of any Palm programs to help study for the CCNA exam? Are there any practise tests for the palm? -Hector __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #711
> > > Excuse me. I meant to ask if a UDP Packet can be fragmented > > > > Yes. > > > > > and what happens > > > to the UDP Header if it can be fragmented? > > > > Nothing. It's sent unchanged in the first fragment. The only header > that > > gets modified and replicated in each fragment is the IP header. > > So will each fragment have a bit of the UDP Header in it or I >am correct in saying that only the first fragment has the FULL >UDP >Header in it ... > how does the destination router know how to put the UDP paket back together? Priscilla et al. have appropriately addressed your original question and follow on questions. What you have not asked (and what has not been addressed) is what layers are performing which functionality (and why). The User Datagram Protocol is an OSI transport layer protocol that is designed to give a low overhead, unreliable (best effort) datagram delivery. Internet standards documents describe UDP as a connectionless datagram PDU, while Cisco refers to it as a segment. Understand Cisco's version for their tests, and understand the Internet version for real life. One of the principal reasons for UDP, in addition to its low overhead, is the ability to deliver datagrams from one to many hosts. TCP is always set up as a one to one connection. If you need to deliver UDP datagrams to a host, you must depend upon the lower layers for delivery (as you do for TCP). In the case of delivery over mutliple types of media, fragmentation may be required. This is handled as a layer 3 (network layer) function. IP has as part of its protocol, the ability to fragment data that will not traverse a low MTU (maximum transmissible unit) path. A typical MTU might be 1500 bytes in an Ethernet environment, but it might be much larger in a Token Ring environment. One of the layers must make accomodation for this situation, otherwise you will have lost data (you can't fit 10 lbs of manure in a five pound bag :-) This process can be optimized to a degree. Many Internet hosts and gateways support the ability to do Path MTU discovery which will allow for advanced discovery of the Path MTU and set it as the default for transmission. In some cases this capability works well, in other cases it does not. Additionally, some hosts will have a "Do not Fragment" bit set on the IP header to not allow any form of fragmentation. If this occurs and fragmentation is required but not possible, an ICMP error message will be sent to the originator indicating fragmentation was required, but not possible. In some instances, if the amount of datagrams that need to be fragmented cannot be buffered by the receiving host to completion of reassembly, you may receive a different ICMP error message indicating a fragmentation failure. Either situation will require a retransmission of all fragments. I would strongly recommend reading TCP/IP Illustrated by the late W. Richard Stevens. It is a must read to understand the TCP/IP protocol suite. HTH, Paul Werner Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Companies requiring proof of previous salary
Hey Guys, I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? Thanks **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Career Question
Hi everyone- I have a career question I hope someone can help me answer.. I am 23 years old, who is currently in grad school for Telecommunications, I will be graduating in July.. My undergraduate degree was also in Telecommunications.. I am also planning on taking the CCNA and maybe the CCDA before I graduate. My question to you guys is what should I look for in a job come July, I only have about one year work experience in the industry. I was considering trying to get a job with CISCO at an entry level position, maybe over-seas (sounds great). What are my options with my little work experience.. Thanks in Advance John
RE: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
S, This is an improper request from companies requesting this of you. Legally, they can only verify a 'range of salary' when they contact your employer for references. The best thing to say, especially if you don't know how to negotiate or forge a pay stub :-)), is to let them know you would prefer if they check with your company to verify your salary. State, that you know your salary requirements are in-line with what the industry commands for your field (because you've done your research). Then ask them what is the salary range for the position you're applying for? SHUT UP and wait for them to answer. (Remember the golden rule in negotiating any form of money transaction, "He who speaks money 1st, looses") So never give up your bargaining position. If they want you they'll tell you, if not move on! If the salary range is lower than what you're currently making then you know you need to move on. I'm a firm believer that everyone should ALWAYS give themselves a raise or cost of living increase. Be prepared and know what you're worth before you start looking for new opportunities, and decide for yourself and not let them decide for you. Remember if you're good, there's always another offer coming! If more people understand the rules of the game, then we're all apt to win! Best regards, Aderion Brewer President, MACG Metro Atlanta Cisco Group -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephane Wantou Siantou Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Companies requiring proof of previous salary Hey Guys, I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? Thanks **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UDP Header
Yes. The UDP Header/Data can be fragmented. Part of the Idea behind the OSI model of Netwrking is that Layer 4 traffic doesn't care what the lower layer portocols do to the Data/segments/packets/frames/bits, as long as when it reaches Layer 4 on the destination host it looks The same as when it left Layer 4 on the source. Original Message Follows From: "FRS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "FRS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UDP Header Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:41:40 -0400 Can a UDP Header be fragmented? And if yes, how is it fragmented? **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CIM Expert Labs Routing
The ISDN CIM is a much better product than the IP routing CIM. -Ejay P.s. A little bird told me that the CIM's show up every once-an-a-while on news://alt.binaries.cbts, but you know how unreliable those little birds can be. (haven't seen them yet...) Original Message Follows From: George Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: George Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CIM Expert Labs Routing Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 20:20:18 -0500 Brian, I just used CIM expert lab the past couple of days. It consists of five labs: Frame Relay, OSPF, OSPF Summarization, EIGRP and BGP. It's very basic. I would say that it's good starting point of your lab test preparation. While I have not taken the CCIE lab yet, I don't know what exactly is tested in the lab. But from what I heard about the lab test and what I know about the CIM Expert Lab, the CIM Expert lab is not as challenging as the CCIE lab test. Hope it helps. George Zhang CCNP+Security CCIE Written Brian wrote: > Can anyone give an opinion on CIM Expert Labs? I am wanting something > that is going to be challenging, not something that is basic. Something > compariable to the type of challenges involving OSPF, BGP, EIGRP, etc that > will be on the CCIE lab exam. > > I understand the CIM Expert Lab does not include things like dlsw, > etc. Only BGP and your major IGP's. But still, looking for opinions on > those that have used it, especially if you took the lab afterwords. > > Brian > > --- > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Network Administrator > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
Well, for starters, some companies do in fact require that as a basis to verify/validate your requests for a larger number. You may not be able to get around it. Sorry. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Stephane Wantou Siantou > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 1:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > > > > Hey Guys, > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > Thanks > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ipsec isakmp problem
Title: RE: ipsec isakmp problem Have you checked your "isakmp policy lifetime" should be same on both end if you want to initial the tunnel from each end? Cheers. Frank Chen -Original Message- From: Ibrahim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 4 October 2000 17:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ipsec isakmp problem Hi group, We installed tunnel & ipsec (using GRE, isakmp-preshare, cisco 3640 & IOS 12.0.7XK1) between 2 routers. Then tunnel & ipsec can work, but the problem is after the session expired, the ipsec can't establish anymore, and we've to run this command "clear crypto sa" manually on both routers, and the session can be established. I heard IOS 12.0.7XK1 has a problem in IPSEC, but I can't upgrade our 3640, every time I upgrade to any 12.1 version, All the interfaces disappear in configuration. TIA, Ibam **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
There is nothing you can do... If you want the job, then play their game. When interviewing for noticeably more in salary- it's safer to play offers (I have offer from XYZ, for XYZ). @ my old company, I saw handful of people inflate their current salaries with the wrong potential employers. Very rarely did I see them get the job, & they always walked away feeling as if they'd burned bridges. Cisco was one of the companies I particularly remember checking in detail... The whole process is a card game, & you're still required to show a winning hand (most of the time) to win the game... Good Luck !!! Phil - Original Message - From: "Stephane Wantou Siantou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 4:56 PM Subject: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > > Hey Guys, > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > Thanks > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #711
You the man Paul! Many thanks. "Paul Werner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Excuse me. I meant to ask if a UDP Packet can be > fragmented > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > and what happens > > > > to the UDP Header if it can be fragmented? > > > > > > Nothing. It's sent unchanged in the first fragment. The > only header > > that > > > gets modified and replicated in each fragment is the IP > header. > > > > So will each fragment have a bit of the UDP Header in it or I > >am correct in saying that only the first fragment has the FULL > >UDP >Header in it ... > > how does the destination router know how to put the UDP paket > back together? > > Priscilla et al. have appropriately addressed your original > question and follow on questions. What you have not asked (and > what has not been addressed) is what layers are performing > which functionality (and why). > > The User Datagram Protocol is an OSI transport layer protocol > that is designed to give a low overhead, unreliable (best > effort) datagram delivery. Internet standards documents > describe UDP as a connectionless datagram PDU, while Cisco > refers to it as a segment. Understand Cisco's version for > their tests, and understand the Internet version for real > life. One of the principal reasons for UDP, in addition to its > low overhead, is the ability to deliver datagrams from one to > many hosts. TCP is always set up as a one to one connection. > If you need to deliver UDP datagrams to a host, you must depend > upon the lower layers for delivery (as you do for TCP). > > In the case of delivery over mutliple types of media, > fragmentation may be required. This is handled as a layer 3 > (network layer) function. IP has as part of its protocol, the > ability to fragment data that will not traverse a low MTU > (maximum transmissible unit) path. A typical MTU might be 1500 > bytes in an Ethernet environment, but it might be much larger > in a Token Ring environment. One of the layers must make > accomodation for this situation, otherwise you will have lost > data (you can't fit 10 lbs of manure in a five pound bag :-) > This process can be optimized to a degree. Many Internet hosts > and gateways support the ability to do Path MTU discovery which > will allow for advanced discovery of the Path MTU and set it as > the default for transmission. In some cases this capability > works well, in other cases it does not. Additionally, some > hosts will have a "Do not Fragment" bit set on the IP header to > not allow any form of fragmentation. If this occurs and > fragmentation is required but not possible, an ICMP error > message will be sent to the originator indicating fragmentation > was required, but not possible. In some instances, if the > amount of datagrams that need to be fragmented cannot be > buffered by the receiving host to completion of reassembly, you > may receive a different ICMP error message indicating a > fragmentation failure. Either situation will require a > retransmission of all fragments. > > I would strongly recommend reading TCP/IP Illustrated by the > late W. Richard Stevens. It is a must read to understand the > TCP/IP protocol suite. > > HTH, > > Paul Werner > > > Get your own "800" number - Free > Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more > http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #711
Paul, Thanks for your reply. How about helping me with this one: When are ICMP redirects used in EIGRP? Looking forward to your reply! Thanks all. "Paul Werner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Excuse me. I meant to ask if a UDP Packet can be > fragmented > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > and what happens > > > > to the UDP Header if it can be fragmented? > > > > > > Nothing. It's sent unchanged in the first fragment. The > only header > > that > > > gets modified and replicated in each fragment is the IP > header. > > > > So will each fragment have a bit of the UDP Header in it or I > >am correct in saying that only the first fragment has the FULL > >UDP >Header in it ... > > how does the destination router know how to put the UDP paket > back together? > > Priscilla et al. have appropriately addressed your original > question and follow on questions. What you have not asked (and > what has not been addressed) is what layers are performing > which functionality (and why). > > The User Datagram Protocol is an OSI transport layer protocol > that is designed to give a low overhead, unreliable (best > effort) datagram delivery. Internet standards documents > describe UDP as a connectionless datagram PDU, while Cisco > refers to it as a segment. Understand Cisco's version for > their tests, and understand the Internet version for real > life. One of the principal reasons for UDP, in addition to its > low overhead, is the ability to deliver datagrams from one to > many hosts. TCP is always set up as a one to one connection. > If you need to deliver UDP datagrams to a host, you must depend > upon the lower layers for delivery (as you do for TCP). > > In the case of delivery over mutliple types of media, > fragmentation may be required. This is handled as a layer 3 > (network layer) function. IP has as part of its protocol, the > ability to fragment data that will not traverse a low MTU > (maximum transmissible unit) path. A typical MTU might be 1500 > bytes in an Ethernet environment, but it might be much larger > in a Token Ring environment. One of the layers must make > accomodation for this situation, otherwise you will have lost > data (you can't fit 10 lbs of manure in a five pound bag :-) > This process can be optimized to a degree. Many Internet hosts > and gateways support the ability to do Path MTU discovery which > will allow for advanced discovery of the Path MTU and set it as > the default for transmission. In some cases this capability > works well, in other cases it does not. Additionally, some > hosts will have a "Do not Fragment" bit set on the IP header to > not allow any form of fragmentation. If this occurs and > fragmentation is required but not possible, an ICMP error > message will be sent to the originator indicating fragmentation > was required, but not possible. In some instances, if the > amount of datagrams that need to be fragmented cannot be > buffered by the receiving host to completion of reassembly, you > may receive a different ICMP error message indicating a > fragmentation failure. Either situation will require a > retransmission of all fragments. > > I would strongly recommend reading TCP/IP Illustrated by the > late W. Richard Stevens. It is a must read to understand the > TCP/IP protocol suite. > > HTH, > > Paul Werner > > > Get your own "800" number - Free > Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more > http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which is better ?
There must be some misunderstanding hereCisco's DNS/DHCP software runs on an NT server and is not router based! The software is very robust and has an easy understandable UI...The question was which was better Microsoft or Cisco...for us Cisco's was b/c it gives us DDNS and "failover" capability for our DNS/DHCP servers which is not built into the Microsoft version - Original Message - From: "Jeff Kell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chris Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:25 AM Subject: Re: which is better ? > Router-based DHCP is often used for home/SOHO environments with NAT > overload to get many machines over a single serial line, especially in > conjunction with, for instance, 'ip address negotiated' on a Dialer > interface. The Inside interfaces generate DHCP using the negotiated > serial interface. > > On a larger scale, other options are much better. > > Jeff Kell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Stephane Wantou Siantou wrote: > > Hey Guys, > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > Thanks I would tell them to take a leap. Your previous salary is *no* basis for what you are worth to them. It shouldn't even matter. Brian > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: which is better ?
Sounds almost like Checkpoint's MetaIP? Do you know how it compares? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Boyd Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 5:18 PM To: Jeff Kell Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which is better ? There must be some misunderstanding hereCisco's DNS/DHCP software runs on an NT server and is not router based! The software is very robust and has an easy understandable UI...The question was which was better Microsoft or Cisco...for us Cisco's was b/c it gives us DDNS and "failover" capability for our DNS/DHCP servers which is not built into the Microsoft version - Original Message - From: "Jeff Kell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chris Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:25 AM Subject: Re: which is better ? > Router-based DHCP is often used for home/SOHO environments with NAT > overload to get many machines over a single serial line, especially in > conjunction with, for instance, 'ip address negotiated' on a Dialer > interface. The Inside interfaces generate DHCP using the negotiated > serial interface. > > On a larger scale, other options are much better. > > Jeff Kell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATM... Why not STM? (just for fun)
Hey Group, I asked my teacher about this a long time ago when I was training and never got a real strait answer. (was always the one who asked the far out questions) I know I don't have the most solid concepts in my head on this but this is what I've been told. You have Asynchronous, and then you have synchronous. These are how info is sent across a line. 2 different ways. I was "told" that synchronous transmision is usually faster than asynchronous because there are less steps in it's sending process. Cool, still with me? Here is my question: If synchronous is faster, why don't they create Synchronous Transfer Mode (STM) on top of, or instead of using Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM). I don't want anyone to stress over this one, it's strictly to think and have fun with. I heard they are making it but my source was not reliable. I don't even remember who said it once. Just some thoughts group. Have a good start of the week... My 0.2 cents Mark Z. CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which is better ?
Cisco IOS supports DHCP server as well.. Brian On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Chris Boyd wrote: > There must be some misunderstanding hereCisco's DNS/DHCP software runs > on an NT server and is not router based! The software is very robust and > has an easy understandable UI...The question was which was better Microsoft > or Cisco...for us Cisco's was b/c it gives us DDNS and "failover" capability > for our DNS/DHCP servers which is not built into the Microsoft version > - Original Message - > From: "Jeff Kell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Chris Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:25 AM > Subject: Re: which is better ? > > > > Router-based DHCP is often used for home/SOHO environments with NAT > > overload to get many machines over a single serial line, especially in > > conjunction with, for instance, 'ip address negotiated' on a Dialer > > interface. The Inside interfaces generate DHCP using the negotiated > > serial interface. > > > > On a larger scale, other options are much better. > > > > Jeff Kell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATM... Why not STM? (just for fun)
ATM's asynchronous nature allows someone to send data when they need to, instead of having to wait for a time-slot like with typical TDM systems. In a TDM system each user gets a slot, whether they like it or not, that slot is for them. A user that wants to use a TDM system has to wait for there slot, and can only communicate while there slot is active, and then it goes to the other slots etc. Brian On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey Group, > I asked my teacher about this a long time ago when I was training > and never got a real strait answer. (was always the one who asked the > far out questions) I know I don't have the most solid concepts in my > head on this but this is what I've been told. You have Asynchronous, > and then you have synchronous. These are how info is sent across a > line. 2 different ways. I was "told" that synchronous transmision is > usually faster than asynchronous because there are less steps in it's > sending process. Cool, still with me? Here is my question: If > synchronous is faster, why don't they create Synchronous Transfer Mode > (STM) on top of, or instead of using Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM). > I don't want anyone to stress over this one, it's strictly to think > and have fun with. I heard they are making it but my source was not > reliable. I don't even remember who said it once. Just some thoughts > group. Have a good start of the week... > > My 0.2 cents > > Mark Z. CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Token Ring
Hi everyone, Just messing around with a router did a show int token 0 command says: Interface up, Line protocol down. When you issue the no shut command on the interface it still says Interface up, Line protocol down. Why is this? Thanks. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Switch issue
On 6 Oct 2000 20:34:41 -0400, emirates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :I have one 3524 with 2 GBIC and one 2924 with 2 100baseFX ports. I can't :able to connect both switches using fiber. I couldn't identify the :problem yet. Any suggestion/help will hightly appreciated !! GBICs are gigabit (1000 megabit per second), and 100base FX are 100 megabit per second. They won't interoperate. Your options are: If the 2924 has a GBIC slot, install a GBIC in it for gigabit speed. Connect the two switches with copper at 100 Mbit. You can use multiple ports and Fast etherchannel to increase throughput. this is not recommended if the switches are in different buildings or fed from different electric power service. Purchase a media converter for the 3524 end, use a 100base TX switch port and convert to 100base FX. This gives 100 megabit performance over fiber. [HTML goo snipped to save electrons] -- Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
I absolutely disagree that there's nothing that can be done for a company that exhibits this type of behavior. VOTE WITH YOUR FEET!!! Remember, we're in a time when demand is high and skills are hard to find. Tell the company that your previous salary has zero bearing on what you now expect. If they just want to verify employment, give them the phone number of HR at your previous employer. If they indicate that your new salary will be based on your old, that's fine...tell them where to go and then go get a job with their competitor. Rememberthis type of corporate attitude will permeate your entire employment, not just the hiring process. Do you really want to work in an environment like that? The only situation I can imagine where you might actually need/want to comply with this level of invasiveness is if you're applying for a position requiring a security clearance (gov't or otherwise). In that scenario, the pay information should not be used to compute your current salary, but rather as part of a comprehensive background investigation. Just my $0.02 Craig At 05:59 PM 10/8/2000 -0200, you wrote: >There is nothing you can do... If you want the job, then play their game. >When interviewing for noticeably more in salary- it's safer to play offers >(I have offer from XYZ, for XYZ). @ my old company, I saw handful of people >inflate their current salaries with the wrong potential employers. Very >rarely did I see them get the job, & they always walked away feeling as if >they'd burned bridges. Cisco was one of the companies I particularly >remember checking in detail... > >The whole process is a card game, & you're still required to show a winning >hand (most of the time) to win the game... > >Good Luck !!! >Phil > >- Original Message - >From: "Stephane Wantou Siantou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 4:56 PM >Subject: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > > Thanks > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >**NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html >_ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Token Ring
On 8 Oct 2000 20:04:29 -0400, FRS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :Just messing around with a router did a show int token 0 command says: :Interface up, Line protocol down. :When you issue the no shut command on the interface it still says Interface :up, Line protocol down. Why is this? The shutdown command will give a "Interface is administratively down" response to show commands. Essentially, the interface is not happy with the token ring network. Could be any of * Physically not connected * ring speed mismatch * ring speed not set * cable problem etc. -- Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet Trivia
At 01:03 AM 10/8/00, Jeff Kell wrote: >Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > Does this help at all? Speed of light in twisted-pair cable is 177,000 > > km/sec. So a bit occupies 177,000 divided by 10 million bits per second, or > > 17.7 meters, in 10 Mbps Ethernet. > > > > 177,000 divided by 100 million bits per second is 1.77 meters for 100 Mbps > > Ethernet. (I'm sure you figured that one out already.) > >Some people questioned "the math" above, I'm guessing because it seems >to read that a bit travels 17.7 meters/sec in 10 Mb Ethernet. But >we missed the "physics" issues to keep things equivalent. No fuzzy math or physics is needed. We are dividing meters per second by bits per second, which is the same thing as meters/sec x sec/bit. Cancel out the seconds and you have meters per bit, in other words how much space on a cable a bit occupies. I was just sitting out on my deck on the last sunny day we will probably have for months in Oregon and realized that folks may be missing the basic arithmetic involved, though they understand the more complicated aspects. That's weird! Well, back to the sun! Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Token Ring
Jay, I issued a no shutdown command ... is the state not supposed to be UP, UP now? "Jay Hennigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > On 8 Oct 2000 20:04:29 -0400, FRS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > :Just messing around with a router did a show int token 0 command says: > :Interface up, Line protocol down. > :When you issue the no shut command on the interface it still says Interface > :up, Line protocol down. Why is this? > > The shutdown command will give a "Interface is administratively down" > response to show commands. > > Essentially, the interface is not happy with the token ring network. > Could be any of > > * Physically not connected > * ring speed mismatch > * ring speed not set > * cable problem > > etc. > > -- > Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ > WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which is better ?
Yes Runs on Win2k and you can download a free eval copy at http://www.cisco.com Can't remember what we paid for it.just download it and check it out...it has been a life saver for us...we had one server go down (bad power supply). The failover feature saved our butss...so check it out! - Original Message - From: "Ryan Finnesey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Chris Boyd'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:55 PM Subject: RE: which is better ? > What is the cost of this Software? Are you running this in a Win2k > endearments ? > > Ryan V. Finnesey > Network Administrator > @tmosphere Interactive > 1375 Broadway, 11th floor > New York, NY 10018 > 212 827 2507 phone > 212 827 2525 fax > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 6:18 PM > To: Jeff Kell > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: which is better ? > > > There must be some misunderstanding hereCisco's DNS/DHCP software runs > on an NT server and is not router based! The software is very robust and > has an easy understandable UI...The question was which was better Microsoft > or Cisco...for us Cisco's was b/c it gives us DDNS and "failover" capability > for our DNS/DHCP servers which is not built into the Microsoft version > - Original Message - > From: "Jeff Kell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Chris Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:25 AM > Subject: Re: which is better ? > > > > Router-based DHCP is often used for home/SOHO environments with NAT > > overload to get many machines over a single serial line, especially in > > conjunction with, for instance, 'ip address negotiated' on a Dialer > > interface. The Inside interfaces generate DHCP using the negotiated > > serial interface. > > > > On a larger scale, other options are much better. > > > > Jeff Kell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Token Ring
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Just messing around with a router did a show int token 0 command says: > Interface up, Line protocol down. > When you issue the no shut command on the interface it still says Interface > up, Line protocol down. Why is this? 'Cause nothing is physically connected to the interface, or, if it is, it is not working properly! Cheers, Saverio **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Token Ring
In a message dated 10/8/00 8:53:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Just messing around with a router did a show int token 0 command says: > > Interface up, Line protocol down. > > When you issue the no shut command on the interface it still says > Interface > > up, Line protocol down. Why is this? > > 'Cause nothing is physically connected to the interface, or, if it is, it > is not working properly! > > Cheers, > Saverio > Is it in it's initializing state by chance? Just a thought... Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If you need luck, apparently you're not prepared...Go study!" ~Mark Zabludovsky~ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Token Ring
Wow ... we have a genius in here! No need to freak out dude ... I am on the Newsgroup to learn. "Saverio Pangoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Just messing around with a router did a show int token 0 command says: > > Interface up, Line protocol down. > > When you issue the no shut command on the interface it still says Interface > > up, Line protocol down. Why is this? > > 'Cause nothing is physically connected to the interface, or, if it is, it > is not working properly! > > Cheers, > Saverio > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
Previous salary says a lot about a persons skill level. After all, if you are not worth your former or current employer paying you what you are asking for, why should another employer pay you that much? Granted, it is a well known fact that many employees often do not recieve the benefits they deserve if they remain at one company for more than five years or so. However, your salary is probably not too far off what a job change will get you. This being the case, it should not be too embarassing telling your prospective employer what you currently make. If it is, you are probably not worth what you are shooting for. There are exceptions to the rule. - Original Message - From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Stephane Wantou Siantou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Stephane Wantou Siantou wrote: > > > > > Hey Guys, > > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > > Thanks > > I would tell them to take a leap. Your previous salary is *no* basis for > what you are worth to them. It shouldn't even matter. > > Brian > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Network Administrator > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
I have been on the receiving end of that kind of request recently and what I said was that not only would I not produce a paycheck stub, I would not discuss the salary I receive in my current position for the reason that unless I was being offered an identical set of duties, working conditions and benefits, it would be comparing apples to gorillas. Stephane Wantou Siantou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hey Guys, > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > Thanks > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
I was just in the same situation, sort of? I had two companies making offers to me at the same time. Both asked how much I would like to make! I told both the amount I make now... One company came back with less and the other came back with a whole lot more. I used the second offer to get the first one up to where I wanted! It's the job that suited my skills more (design engineer vs. sales engineer) Remember one thing, it's an Employees market. If you don't BS you should not have a problem. If you go in with two years experience and tell them that you make $120K then they may ask for proof. My take on it is if they want you they will pay fair market value. If they nickle and dime you from day one you know what type of employer they will be. Patrick "Stephane Wantou Siantou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hey Guys, > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > Thanks > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
Unless you're dying to have the job, I think you should tell them that you are not going to tell them how much you're making right now. Like other guys have said, this is one way for them to cheap out on you. This potentially tells a lot about the potential employer, too. "Stephane Wantou Siantou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hey Guys, > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > Thanks > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
Phils right, don't lie just cover your bases with multiple offers and then leverage them against each other. Eventually you will get what you want. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Circusnuts > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 2:59 PM > To: Stephane Wantou Siantou; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > > > There is nothing you can do... If you want the job, then play their game. > When interviewing for noticeably more in salary- it's safer to play offers > (I have offer from XYZ, for XYZ). @ my old company, I saw > handful of people > inflate their current salaries with the wrong potential employers. Very > rarely did I see them get the job, & they always walked away feeling as if > they'd burned bridges. Cisco was one of the companies I particularly > remember checking in detail... > > The whole process is a card game, & you're still required to show > a winning > hand (most of the time) to win the game... > > Good Luck !!! > Phil > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephane Wantou Siantou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 4:56 PM > Subject: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > > Thanks > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Token Ring
On 8 Oct 2000 20:23:48 -0400, FRS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :I issued a no shutdown command ... is the state not supposed to be UP, UP :now? If it's connected to a functioning token-ring network, it will be UP, UP. The "Line protocol down" is telling you that it doesn't (yet?) see a finctional protocol. Is it connected to a MAU? Showing line protocol down if the interface isn't connected is normal. As someone else pointed out, it could be initializing. -- Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
I totally disagree with your statement. Just because you're underpaid doesn't mean you don't know anything about what you're doing. A lot of people stay in a job for 2-3 years but only get a 6-7% raise per year but in the process have learned a lot. When he goes looking for a new job, I don't think potential employers should judge him by his current salary but what he's worth when he did the interview. If your statement was true, I'd be getting paid like $50,000 right now because my 1st employer was a cheapskate even though I have quite a bit of experience. ""whatshakin"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Previous salary says a lot about a persons skill level. After all, if you > are not worth your former or current employer paying you what you are asking > for, why should another employer pay you that much? > > Granted, it is a well known fact that many employees often do not recieve > the benefits they deserve if they remain at one company for more than five > years or so. However, your salary is probably not too far off what a job > change will get you. This being the case, it should not be too embarassing > telling your prospective employer what you currently make. If it is, you > are probably not worth what you are shooting for. > > There are exceptions to the rule. > > - Original Message - > From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Stephane Wantou Siantou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > > > > On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Stephane Wantou Siantou wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > > > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > > > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > > > Thanks > > > > I would tell them to take a leap. Your previous salary is *no* basis for > > what you are worth to them. It shouldn't even matter. > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > _ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --- > > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Network Administrator > > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Token Ring
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > Jay, > > I issued a no shutdown command ... is the state not supposed to be UP, UP > now? do you have the interface clicked into a token ring network? > > > "Jay Hennigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > On 8 Oct 2000 20:04:29 -0400, FRS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > :Just messing around with a router did a show int token 0 command says: > > :Interface up, Line protocol down. > > :When you issue the no shut command on the interface it still says > Interface > > :up, Line protocol down. Why is this? > > > > The shutdown command will give a "Interface is administratively down" > > response to show commands. > > > > Essentially, the interface is not happy with the token ring network. > > Could be any of > > > > * Physically not connected > > * ring speed mismatch > > * ring speed not set > > * cable problem > > > > etc. > > > > -- > > Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ > > WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Token Ring
its not seeing keep alives On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Just messing around with a router did a show int token 0 command says: > Interface up, Line protocol down. > When you issue the no shut command on the interface it still says Interface > up, Line protocol down. Why is this? > > Thanks. > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Token Ring
No, I don't have it inserted into a ring yet. Maybe that's the problem! So the Interface first has to be inserted into the ring before it shows UP, UP! Thanks for all the help! "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > > > Jay, > > > > I issued a no shutdown command ... is the state not supposed to be UP, UP > > now? > > do you have the interface clicked into a token ring network? > > > > > > > "Jay Hennigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > On 8 Oct 2000 20:04:29 -0400, FRS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > :Just messing around with a router did a show int token 0 command says: > > > :Interface up, Line protocol down. > > > :When you issue the no shut command on the interface it still says > > Interface > > > :up, Line protocol down. Why is this? > > > > > > The shutdown command will give a "Interface is administratively down" > > > response to show commands. > > > > > > Essentially, the interface is not happy with the token ring network. > > > Could be any of > > > > > > * Physically not connected > > > * ring speed mismatch > > > * ring speed not set > > > * cable problem > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > -- > > > Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ > > > WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > _ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Network Administrator > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boson tests
Hi all, I've used the Boson tests for BCMSN (test #1, Harder than the actual exam, which use great!). But now its time for BCRAN and BSCN, which will be done over the next month. Can anyone please give feed back to the group on which tests they have found usefull and why for the above tests. Just as a side point we have installed the Boson tests on to our Meta Frame server so that we can access the tests remotely on the weekend before sittings the tests. This works great and gets around the single installation problem. In talking with Boson we made sure we had the correct lics. Thanks in Adv. Rod **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what is mean reverse telnet ?
The term reverse Telnet means that you are initiating a Telnet session out the asynchronous line, instead of accepting a connection into the line (which is a forward connection). To establish a reverse Telnet session to a modem, determine the IP address of your LAN (Ethernet) interface, then enter a Telnet command to port 2000 + n on the access server, where n is the line number to which the modem is connected. For example, to connect to the modem attached to line 1, enter the following command from an EXEC session on the access server: router# telnet 172.16.1.10 2001 Trying 172.16.1.10, 2001 ... Open -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:20 PM To: 'WANG'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: what is mean reverse telnet ? Dear Friends, May I know what is meant by reverse telnet? How we use it with access server? Tong == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sybex Book
The Sybex study guide for the CCNA..provides flash cards for the palm. Has around 100 questions...i'm not sure of the number though. good luck **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Token Ring
On 8 Oct 2000 21:26:12 -0400, FRS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :No, I don't have it inserted into a ring yet. Maybe that's the problem! :So the Interface first has to be inserted into the ring before it shows UP, :UP! Yes. This is true for all Cisco physical interfaces, although you can use "no keepalive" in most cased to fool them into showing UP, UP. This is a good thing, used as a detection mechanism to quickly withdraw networks from the routing table if an interface becomes disconnected. If you've assigned an IP address to the interface, you'll observe that it does not show as "connected" until the interface is really connected t osomething and thus UP, UP. -- Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bridge Table
Hi, When a bridge comes online for the first time, does it use the source MAC addresses or the destination MAC addresses initially to build the bridge table? I cannot seem to find this answer on CCO or Caslow. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
My policy is that it can only be used against you in the negotiation process. If they know what you are making they have at least an idea for a minimum offer based on that. Key word: "Minimum". Besides, one of the documents that you most likely be requested to sign later is some sort of non-disclosure agreement that probably limits your ability to divulge your salary to other employees or prospective employers. I make it known that my dealings with my clientele are kept private, and that salary / salary offers are one of the items covered by that deal. If you are required to divulge that information, it is then not private and they can no longer expect you to keep it that way (But will probably try anyway). I stand firm on my ethic and if they do not respect that then I can not accept the position. My last two employers "required" salary histories and when I explained my position, not only did I earn their respect, but I received offers at slightly higher than market average. I have likely also have been turned down by potential employers for this reason but I have not regretted the lost opportunity at all. In fact I like to clear this item off the table as early as possible in order to not waste any time on the loosers. In reality every job I have interviewed for (50+) "required" this information at the onset. I have not needed to divulge it in over five years and have doubled my ! income three times since then. The negotiating skills needed to work around this issue say a great deal more about you than a blind submission to a mandatory policy and a good employer, will surely take notice of that. Ken Leja -Original Message- From: whatshakin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary Previous salary says a lot about a persons skill level. After all, if you are not worth your former or current employer paying you what you are asking for, why should another employer pay you that much? Granted, it is a well known fact that many employees often do not recieve the benefits they deserve if they remain at one company for more than five years or so. However, your salary is probably not too far off what a job change will get you. This being the case, it should not be too embarassing telling your prospective employer what you currently make. If it is, you are probably not worth what you are shooting for. There are exceptions to the rule. - Original Message - From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Stephane Wantou Siantou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Stephane Wantou Siantou wrote: > > > > > Hey Guys, > > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > > Thanks > > I would tell them to take a leap. Your previous salary is *no* basis for > what you are worth to them. It shouldn't even matter. > > Brian > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Network Administrator > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exam Cram errata page?
I could not find any links on ExamCram's web site regarding errata. The book I'm interested in is the "Exam 640-507 Routing and Switching Practice Tests", ISBN 1-57610-542-3. I can't possibly believe that this book has no errors Any suggestions? Thanks all. Dave Page **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSCN LAB
I have looked through the Archive but I was unable to find out what Type of routers and switches that i will need to study for the BSCN exam. I have some great 26xx routers but what switches will I need? Thank you in advance. --- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BSCN LAB
Each pair of students in a BSCN class has a pod of three routers connected to two backbone routers. Router1 has four serial ports. Router2 has two serial and one Ethernet Router3 has two serial and one Ethernet. The backbone routers have one serial per student pod. Router1 connects to Backbone1 with one serial. Router1 connects to Router2 with two serial. Router1 connects to Router3 with one serial. Router2 connects to Router3 via Ethernet. Router3 connects to Backbone2 with one serial. No switches. > -Original Message- > From: Tim Faulk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 9:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: BSCN LAB > > > I have looked through the Archive but I was unable to find > out what Type of > routers and switches that i will need to study for the BSCN > exam. I have > some great 26xx routers but what switches will I need? > Thank you in advance. > > > --- > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bridge Table
I suggest studying the STP (Spanning Tree Protocol, will clear things up for you. The more detailed explanation, the better... Cisco Press, Lan Switching, has a great explanation. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bridge Table
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > Hi, > > When a bridge comes online for the first time, does it use the source MAC > addresses or the destination MAC addresses initially to build the bridge > table? > I cannot seem to find this answer on CCO or Caslow. bridges always use source mac addresses to build their CAM tables. Brian > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BCMSN exam
How in depth are the Multicast questions on the exam?How many can I expect? Thanks, Jon **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet Trivia
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > At 01:03 AM 10/8/00, Jeff Kell wrote: > >Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > > Does this help at all? Speed of light in twisted-pair cable is 177,000 > > > km/sec. So a bit occupies 177,000 divided by 10 million bits per second, or > > > 17.7 meters, in 10 Mbps Ethernet. > > > > > > 177,000 divided by 100 million bits per second is 1.77 meters for 100 Mbps > > > Ethernet. (I'm sure you figured that one out already.) > > > >Some people questioned "the math" above, I'm guessing because it seems > >to read that a bit travels 17.7 meters/sec in 10 Mb Ethernet. But > >we missed the "physics" issues to keep things equivalent. > > No fuzzy math or physics is needed. We are dividing meters per second by > bits per second, which is the same thing as meters/sec x sec/bit. Cancel > out the seconds and you have meters per bit, in other words how much space > on a cable a bit occupies. > You bring back some fond memories -- I was privileged to hear retired Rear Admiral Grace Hopper speak on two occasions, during her later years when DEC was so savvy as to hire her as a consultant. One of her talents was the ability to make computing and communications seem real to others. During her days as a DEC spokesperson, she was known to hand out physical "bits". In the first talk I attended, she handed each of us short pieces of wire which she explained were "nanoseconds". In the next talk, she gave us plastic-wrapped packets of what appeared to be salt and pepper -- picoseconds, she exclaimed. Somewhere in my physical archives I still have both of these, and do treasure them, to the puzzlement of others... http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/tap/Files/hopper-story.html > I was just sitting out on my deck on the last sunny day we will probably > have for months in Oregon and realized that folks may be missing the basic > arithmetic involved, though they understand the more complicated aspects. > That's weird! > Ahh, in a few months, we'll all be jealous of the great snow conditions. Then we can calculate the length of a bit on the cable of a chair lift! :-) Marty Adkins Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mentor Technologies Phone: 410-280-8840 x3006 275 West Street, Plaza 70WWW: http://www.mentortech.com Annapolis, MD 21401 Cisco CCIE #1289 **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5-4-3 rule
hi, guy Please tell what is 5-4-3 rule mean ? Thanks Tang
Re: BCMSN exam
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Jon Kuhn wrote: > How in depth are the Multicast questions on the exam?How many can I > expect? Its not like they are throwing complex multicast configs and whatnot at you. Know the differences between different multicast types (pim sparse, pim dense, pim sparse-dense)know how to formulate multicast MAC addresses from multicast ip addresses. Know how CGMP worksknow the facts about IGMPv1 and IGMPv2just stuff along those linesfactual information about multicastthe ciscopress book covers it nicely. Brian > > Thanks, > Jon > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCMSN exam
I just finished the test yesterday. Only basic Multicast questions were asked, for example, translate a multicast IP address into a MAC address, what charactristics make Multicast different to Unicast and Broadcast, basic IGMP features. The questions about MLS were also simple, few HSRP questions were asked. Most parts of the exam were about VLAN, Trunking, VTP and STP. I was weak in VLAN since I used Cisco Press BCMSN book which doesn't declare VLAN, and VTP very clearly. I suggest you look for other materials for the VLAN part. "Jon Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > How in depth are the Multicast questions on the exam?How many can I > expect? > > Thanks, > Jon > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
You make it sound like employers are against you...Employers are actually hoping you are the candidate they are looking for, so they don't have to go through this: Run an ad in a newspaper/online or use a recruiting service. In my city, I get hundreds, sometimes thousands of responses. Wade through the resumes initially looking for the usual B.S (experienced in X...been working since Y(not really experienced)), and also pruning the idiots that cannot even bother to get their resumes to a professional level. This usually weans the resume pile by 90%. Read resumes again in more detail looking for those skills that match what we are looking for. Begin scheduling technical interviews and spending time with those candidates that are/were good at B.S*ing and those that are legitimate. Numerous hours/days later we have a handful (if lucky) of potential candidates. Schedule the second round of interviews to test inter-personal skills and hopefully get to within two or three candidates. From the remaining candidates, if any, schedule third round interviews and get down to the nitty gritty of money and benefits etc. A month or so after beginning we may finally get some decent help... Most employers are more than willing to pay well the candidates that have what we want. If you only have a couple of years experience though, you must realize you are not going to get more than $50K. No way. Wouldn't it be nice if the perfect candidate came walking through the door every time you needed one? Doesn't happen, instead we have to go through that crap. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'whatshakin' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:33 PM Subject: RE: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > > My policy is that it can only be used against you in the negotiation process. > If they know what you are making they have at least an idea for a minimum offer based on that. Key word: "Minimum". > > Besides, one of the documents that you most likely be requested to sign later is some sort of non-disclosure agreement that probably limits your ability to divulge your salary to other employees or prospective employers. > > I make it known that my dealings with my clientele are kept private, and that salary / salary offers are one of the items covered by that deal. If you are required to divulge that information, it is then not private and they can no longer expect you to keep it that way (But will probably try anyway). I stand firm on my ethic and if they do not respect that then I can not accept the position. My last two employers "required" salary histories and when I explained my position, not only did I earn their respect, but I received offers at slightly higher than market average. I have likely also have been turned down by potential employers for this reason but I have not regretted the lost opportunity at all. In fact I like to clear this item off the table as early as possible in order to not waste any time on the loosers. In reality every job I have interviewed for (50+) "required" this information at the onset. I have not needed to divulge it in over five years and have doubled my ! > income three times since then. > > The negotiating skills needed to work around this issue say a great deal more about you than a blind submission to a mandatory policy and a good employer, will surely take notice of that. > > Ken Leja > > -Original Message- > From: whatshakin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 8:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > > Previous salary says a lot about a persons skill level. After all, if you > are not worth your former or current employer paying you what you are asking > for, why should another employer pay you that much? > > Granted, it is a well known fact that many employees often do not recieve > the benefits they deserve if they remain at one company for more than five > years or so. However, your salary is probably not too far off what a job > change will get you. This being the case, it should not be too embarassing > telling your prospective employer what you currently make. If it is, you > are probably not worth what you are shooting for. > > There are exceptions to the rule. > > - Original Message - > From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Stephane Wantou Siantou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > > > > On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Stephane Wantou Siantou wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > I recently had an interview with a company that requires proof of > > > my previous salary. I don't want to show them anything about my > > > previous salary. How do you think I can go about it? > > > Thanks > > > > I would tell them to take a leap. Your previous salary is *no* basis for > > what you are worth to them. I
Re: 5-4-3 rule
> caifeng tang wrote: > > hi, guy > Please tell what is 5-4-3 rule mean ? > Thanks Starting the days of coaxial ethernet (10Base2/10Base5) there was a limitation per subnet of : * five cable segments, connected by * four repeaters, but only * three segments coule be populated. This hasn't been updated to 'modern day' technology of switches and bridges (which change the rules somewhat). Jeff Kell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5-4-3 rule
just recovered from some old archives hp this topics seems to come back periodically. Good that I saved my original reply from a few months back: The answer has to do with the IEEE 802.3 standards. There are actually two models how to calculate a "valid" ethernet network. Model 1: Simplified model widely known as 5-4-3 rule. Model 2: Calculation of Roundtrip delay (<576 bit times) and Interframe Gap shrinkage (50 bit times) In model 1, there can be 5 segments connected by 4 repeaters, but only 3 can have stations on them (half duplex mode), the other 2 MUST BE link segments (full duplex, for instance fiber). Check out this excellent Website of the Ethernet guru: Charles Spurgeon. http://www.ots.utexas.edu/ethernet/ethernet.html the entrance to his website http://www.ots.utexas.edu/ethernet/10quickref/ch7qr_5.html#HEADING4 outlines model 1 http://www.ots.utexas.edu/ethernet/10quickref/ch7qr_6.html#HEADING5 outlines model 2 For a definite source on Ethernet (besides the IEEE 802.3 specs) I highly recommend his excellent Ethernet book: http://www.bellereti.com/ethernet/edg/edg.html Chapter 13 of this book is online and it talks about the 5-4-3 rule !!! Cheers, Willy Schoots Lucent NPS >> There is a basic rule of thumb to follow with 10 Mbps Ethernet networks. It is commonly known as the 5-4-3 rule and represents the following Ethernet limitations : 5 4 3 Maximum 5 Segments 4 Repeaters 3 Populated Segments > -Original Message- > From: caifeng tang [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 12:37 PM > To: Cisco > Subject: 5-4-3 rule > > hi, guy > Please tell what is 5-4-3 rule mean ? > Thanks > > Tang **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAX. VLAN's
Friends, I hv a question. Can anyone tell me What is the MAX. no. of vlan's can be created using a switch/switches . Is there any limitation to it or it is model specific. What is the max no. of switches we can have per VLAN. thanx HP **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
I do enough of it to know. I am one of the people doing the filtering and it is rough sorting them out. For all of the methods that I have tried to evaluate somebody for a given position, the least reliable information I can rely on is what the last guy thought the candidate was worth. If it were right would we be talking in the first place? When it comes down to money I try to have a picture of what the candidate can bring to the table versus what we need to meet our objectives for the task at hand. It's not easy but I personally lean away from specific skill-sets and salary in favor of attitude, confidence and talent. Good people will do well at anything they commit to and are always a bargain at market prices. On the business side of it though, I'm worried about the money/budget/skill-sets etc that make a project tick. Sometimes it is difficult not to take advantage of the situation to close the gaps in the budget. In reality that makes it a budget problem which is something else entirely. As far as salary histories go I feel that the act of requiring the upper hand in a financial negotiation cuts against the grain of my belief that good business is mutually beneficial to both parties and is to be conducted in good faith. Are all employers against you? I think not. But some are. They are best avoided. Ken Leja -Original Message- From: whatshakin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 10:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary You make it sound like employers are against you...Employers are actually hoping you are the candidate they are looking for, so they don't have to go through this: Run an ad in a newspaper/online or use a recruiting service. In my city, I get hundreds, sometimes thousands of responses. Wade through the resumes initially looking for the usual B.S (experienced in X...been working since Y(not really experienced)), and also pruning the idiots that cannot even bother to get their resumes to a professional level. This usually weans the resume pile by 90%. Read resumes again in more detail looking for those skills that match what we are looking for. Begin scheduling technical interviews and spending time with those candidates that are/were good at B.S*ing and those that are legitimate. Numerous hours/days later we have a handful (if lucky) of potential candidates. Schedule the second round of interviews to test inter-personal skills and hopefully get to within two or three candidates. From the remaining candidates, if any, schedule third round interviews and get down to the nitty gritty of money and benefits etc. A month or so after beginning we may finally get some decent help... Most employers are more than willing to pay well the candidates that have what we want. If you only have a couple of years experience though, you must realize you are not going to get more than $50K. No way. Wouldn't it be nice if the perfect candidate came walking through the door every time you needed one? Doesn't happen, instead we have to go through that crap. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'whatshakin' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:33 PM Subject: RE: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > > My policy is that it can only be used against you in the negotiation process. > If they know what you are making they have at least an idea for a minimum offer based on that. Key word: "Minimum". > > Besides, one of the documents that you most likely be requested to sign later is some sort of non-disclosure agreement that probably limits your ability to divulge your salary to other employees or prospective employers. > > I make it known that my dealings with my clientele are kept private, and that salary / salary offers are one of the items covered by that deal. If you are required to divulge that information, it is then not private and they can no longer expect you to keep it that way (But will probably try anyway). I stand firm on my ethic and if they do not respect that then I can not accept the position. My last two employers "required" salary histories and when I explained my position, not only did I earn their respect, but I received offers at slightly higher than market average. I have likely also have been turned down by potential employers for this reason but I have not regretted the lost opportunity at all. In fact I like to clear this item off the table as early as possible in order to not waste any time on the loosers. In reality every job I have interviewed for (50+) "required" this information at the onset. I have not needed to divulge it in over five years and have doubled my ! > income three times since then. > > The negotiating skills needed to work around this issue say a great deal more about you than a blind submission to a mandatory policy and a good employer, will surely take notice of tha
Re: ATM... Why not STM? (just for fun)
Synchronous requires you to wait around for your "slot", plus introduction of extra bit-times on the wire for timing. Anynchronous avoids this at the cost of less delay in start of transmission, but you must insert your own timing signals (preamble). ATM gets a bit tricky to synchronize at high speed where accurate clocking is critical. Dealing with ATM itself versus Synchronous Serial (SNA, BSC, etc) you also have fixed frame (cell) sizes to contend with. Note that traditional T1-T3-etc circuits are essentially synchronous as timing is provided by the network. Jeff Kell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MAX. VLAN's
You can create 1024 VLAN's at the maximum. There is no restriction on the number of switch per VLAN. Karthik. At 10:34 AM 10/9/00 +0530, Hitesh Pathak (CSD-BBYRO-RTSG) wrote: >Friends, > >I hv a question. > >Can anyone tell me What is the MAX. no. of vlan's can be created using a >switch/switches . Is there any limitation to it or it is model specific. >What is the max no. of switches we can have per VLAN. > >thanx >HP > >**NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html >_ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICMP redirects
> Paul, > > Thanks for your reply. How about helping me with this one: > > When are ICMP redirects used in EIGRP? Cisco routers do not trigger an ICMP redirect based upon which routing protocol is in use. They have a defined set of criteria that is based upon the following parameters: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/43.html ICMP redirects are in explained in reasonable detail here (watch wrap): http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/ip.htm# xtocid2236313 The real issue of ICMP redirects is less concerned with Internet gateways and more concerned with Internet hosts. The governing RFC here is RFC 1122. It states in para. 3.2.2.2: 3.2.2.2 Redirect: RFC-792 A host SHOULD NOT send an ICMP Redirect message; Redirects are to be sent only by gateways. A host receiving a Redirect message MUST update its routing information accordingly. Every host MUST be prepared to accept both Host and Network Redirects and to process them as described in Section 3.3.1.2 below. A Redirect message SHOULD be silently discarded if the new gateway address it specifies is not on the same connected (sub- ) net through which the Redirect arrived [INTRO:2, Appendix A], or if the source of the Redirect is not the current first-hop gateway for the specified destination (see Section 3.3.1). Listed above is what the Internet Standard specifies for proper operation. Let's bounce that against reality as we know it: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q243/4/27.ASP http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q195/6/86.ASP http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q225/3/44.ASP As a matter of practice, ICMP redirects have taken the form of a DoS attack today (at least as implemented in Winthings). HTH, Paul Werner - who envies the serenity of an Oregon sunset. Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
Prospective employers should definitely not leave it up to the previous employer to determine what a person is worth. However, they should use it as a point of reference. If your last employer does not or will not pay you what you want, it begs the question 'Why?'. There are really only a few answers that apply: Employee does not want to stay for whatever reason. The task(s) they perform are not worthy of X dollars. Outgrown position, low skill level etc. They are happy to see you leave. Based on these scenario's, the only ones that springs to mind as valid reasons to warrant a significant pay hike are an employee wishing to leave because they are bored and need more of a challenge, or because they are significantly underpaid. In either case they would also need some sort of proof of increased worth. Diplomas and Certs are two possibilities that fall into this category. It comes as no surprise to anyone that counteroffers are normally made to employee's of value that have expressed their desire to leave. This is also factored into the offer your potential employer will make. The whole Consultant/Corporate-body scenario is just basic business economics. - Original Message - From: Michael Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: whatshakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 8:48 PM Subject: Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary > I strongly disagree with this. Previous salary says a > lot about how valuable your last employer thought you > were to them specifically and how much they felt they > could pay you and still keep you. Almost all employers > would probably counteroffer you if you said you were > going to leave. My last two did, by upwards of 20%. > Does that mean my skill level jumped 20% right after I > decided to leave and they decided they wanted me a > little more? > Why should my new potential employer pay me based on > what someone else thinks I'm worth? Why should they > leave their business decisions up to someone else? My > last company thought of me as a cost center. I was > there to support their network. My new company, where > I am a consultant, bills me out at $200/hr (pays me > nowhere near that much... heheh) and definitely > considers me a profit center. I bring them money and > they in turn think of me as more valuable. Did I jump > skill level from the last day at my last job and the > first day of my new job no. But my value to my > employer did. And that's what counts. > > Mike > > --- whatshakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Previous salary says a lot about a persons skill > > level. After all, if you > > are not worth your former or current employer paying > > you what you are asking > > for, why should another employer pay you that much? > > > > Granted, it is a well known fact that many employees > > often do not recieve > > the benefits they deserve if they remain at one > > company for more than five > > years or so. However, your salary is probably not > > too far off what a job > > change will get you. This being the case, it should > > not be too embarassing > > telling your prospective employer what you currently > > make. If it is, you > > are probably not worth what you are shooting for. > > > > There are exceptions to the rule. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Stephane Wantou Siantou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:26 PM > > Subject: Re: Companies requiring proof of previous > > salary > > > > > > > On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Stephane Wantou Siantou wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > I recently had an interview with a company that > > requires proof of > > > > my previous salary. I don't want to show them > > anything about my > > > > previous salary. How do you think I can go > > about it? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > I would tell them to take a leap. Your previous > > salary is *no* basis for > > > what you are worth to them. It shouldn't even > > matter. > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For > > more information go to > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > > _ > > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com > > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Network Administrator > > > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For > > more information go to > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > _ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription inf
Re: LAYER 3 SWITCHING
FRS, Layer 3 Switching, is not a situation when the CPU isn't involvedThat is Fast Switching, This is actually when routing information is stored in CACHE memory and it is processed without running as many interrupts to the CPU. And YES L3 switching does have everything to do with L2 frames.If it didn't then switches wouldn't be involved[ Layer 3 Switching ] consists of the MLSP Protocol < Muli-Layer Switching Protocol >...What happens is when you have a < Switch(s) / Router > where the Switches have redundant connections to one another and you are running Vlans between the Switches, what do they have to do to get to the other Vlan; they have to go to the router for the packe to be routed since our Vlans are on different subnets.Well what happens is that your switches build a CACHE entry in their MLS Cache and from the information that's in the packet that's stripped they see what port that it was sent out, and they also have the MAC Addresses of the Destination / Source / Port #; just depending on if your running Dst / Src / Port Layer Switching. They then add this to their CACHE entry database and they then switch the packets from there on.Also there is a limited time that this information will stay in the L3 Cache Database ( 256 seconds ) if I remember correctly. Your able to base the switching on Destination / Destination-Source / Destination-Source-Port so then you would actually be doing L4 Switching. HTH. JEK "FRS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8qu1br$9th$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8qu1br$9th$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I need some help in understanding Layer 3 Switching. > > 1. What does the process Layer 3 switching refer to? > > 2. Is it packets or frames being switched out of interfaces or ports? > > 3. Using the 2948G-L3 as an example, how is the switching determined - by > Routing table or CAM table? > > All help is appreciated. > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
keepalive set in frame-relay circuit?
hi anyone knows why after having set my keepalive to be zero my frame-relay circuit straight away went up ie line protocol is up I believe there is no need to set keepalive as the LMI is taking care of it right? Correct me if I am wrong thanks Jason **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
