RE: TCP port number 0

2001-01-19 Thread

ahp (51), eigrp (88), esp (50), gre (47), igrp (9), icmp (1), igmp (2), igrp (9), ip 
(0), ipinip (4), nos (94), ospf (89), pcp (108), pim (103), tcp (6), or udp (17).

0 is 'ip'.

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Subject: TCP port number 0



Hi,

Does anyone know what is the purpose of tcp port number 0 ?
I have an experience catching traffic coming from HTTP server with tcp =
port number 0 and destinated to any IP address with tcp port number 0. =
After I put an incoming acces-list that blocked port number 0, a few =
minute later I saw this packet was never being generated again. The =
access-list is applied for incoming traffic.
For example :

access-list 101 deny   tcp host HTTPserver eq 0 any log
access-list 101 deny   tcp any any eq 0 log
access-list 101 deny   tcp any eq 0 any log
access-list 101 permit ip any any

Thank you


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ISDN crossover???

2001-01-19 Thread Dean Snider

Hello all I have a 2610 with 2 WIC-1B-U units in it and a 2503.  I'm
wondering if there is a way I can connect the 2 units with a ISDN
crossover cable (if there is a wiring pattern or such a thing) in order
to try and setup ISDN in a lab situation.  Has anyone tried to do this?
Do I maybe need some intermediate hardware to simulate ISDN with no
connection to a telco or an ISP for this service?

Thanks
Dean Snider
On the home stretch to CCNA.

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Re: Cat5500 question

2001-01-19 Thread ROB

SE II is hardware.  A controller board, if you will.  Just purchase it, install it, and
configure it.

Jason Tran wrote:

 Hi Group, just have a quick question.  I have a cat 5500 currently has a
 Supervisor Engine I.  If someone tells me I need Supervisor Engine II, is he
 talking about software or hardware?  How am I going about changing it to
 Supervisor Engine II?  Thanks.

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Re: Problem

2001-01-19 Thread ROB

You might want to send that info to CISCO, not an open newsgroup.

Kamran Sheikh wrote:

 Sir / Madam

 i am unable to logon into the tracking system with
 putting all the correct information. Kindly tell me
 here is my information

 My Full Name is   :  Kamran Zamir
 Cisco ID  :  CSCO10168556

 Waiting of your kind response.

 Thanks
 Kamran

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TCP port number 0

2001-01-19 Thread Nurarif W

Hi,

Does anyone know what is the purpose of tcp port number 0 ?
I have an experience catching traffic coming from HTTP server with tcp =
port number 0 and destinated to any IP address with tcp port number 0. =
After I put an incoming acces-list that blocked port number 0, a few =
minute later I saw this packet was never being generated again. The =
access-list is applied for incoming traffic.
For example :

access-list 101 deny   tcp host HTTPserver eq 0 any log
access-list 101 deny   tcp any any eq 0 log
access-list 101 deny   tcp any eq 0 any log
access-list 101 permit ip any any

Thank you


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RE: HELP WITH RAD MULTIPROTOCOL SWICTH

2001-01-19 Thread Barbara Cobbina

Sorry forgot to mention the modell. The model is FPS 8

--- Gustavo Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Model ???
 
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 Sent: Jueves, 18 de Enero de 2001 02:39 p.m.
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 Subject: HELP WITH RAD MULTIPROTOCOL SWICTH
 
 
 Comarades
 
 Can someone please help me set up a rad
 multiprotocol
 switch for me to be able to play with ISDN and frame
 relay.
 
 I need the pin-outs for the console cable so that I
 can set it up  from scratch. I cannot  get into the
 damn thing to manage or set it up initially. Can
 anyone help ?
 
 Cheers
 
 
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dialer idle-timeout and dialer fast-idle commands

2001-01-19 Thread Barbara Cobbina

Can anyone tell me the difference between these two
dialer commands ?

Explanation given in the BCRAN course notes make the
two appear to me as serving the same purpose.

Cheers

BABS


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Re: TCP port number 0

2001-01-19 Thread Chris Miles

Hi,

Without seeing the actual access-list, I would imagine that no port numbers
are being logged because you are not interrogating the traffic at a port
level, simply at a protocol level. You are seeing TCP traffic but not
checking for the port.

For example,

if you have a list that resembles the following:

access-list 101 deny tcp host 192.168.1.1 any log
access-list 101 permit ip any any

then the router will not check the port number (cos it doesnt need to - you
havent specified any port numbers)

if you want to see the port number, then you will have to add an entry that
forces the router to check the port, like in the following. The first entry
will force the check.

access-list 101 permit tcp host 192.168.1.1 eq smtp any
access-list 101 deny tcp host 192.168.1.1 any log
access-list 101 permit ip any any

Hope this makes sense!

---
Chris Miles
Senior Support Engineer
Customer Network Engineering
REDNET Ltd

- Original Message -
From: "Nurarif W" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 7:40 AM
Subject: TCP port number 0


 Hi,

 Does anyone know what is the purpose of tcp port number 0 ?
 I have an experience catching traffic coming from HTTP server with tcp =
 port number 0 and destinated to any IP address with tcp port number 0. =
 After I put an incoming acces-list that blocked port number 0, a few =
 minute later I saw this packet was never being generated again. The =
 access-list is applied for incoming traffic.
 For example :

 access-list 101 deny   tcp host HTTPserver eq 0 any log
 access-list 101 deny   tcp any any eq 0 log
 access-list 101 deny   tcp any eq 0 any log
 access-list 101 permit ip any any

 Thank you


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AW: dialer idle-timeout and dialer fast-idle commands

2001-01-19 Thread Stuart Laubstein

Dialer idle timeout is used on lines where no contention takes place you
would use the fast idle command on lines where there is contention. Fast
idle is generally much lower I think 30 seconds is default while idel
timeout is 120 secnds or maybe 180 by default.

stuart


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Can anyone tell me the difference between these two
dialer commands ?

Explanation given in the BCRAN course notes make the
two appear to me as serving the same purpose.

Cheers

BABS


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RE: dialer idle-timeout and dialer fast-idle commands

2001-01-19 Thread Kane, Christopher A.

Dialer idle-timeout 
Sets the time that the line can remain idle before it is disconnected.
Default being 120 seconds. 

This means that if Site A just made a call to the Corporate HQ, sent it's
traffic and now has nothing left to send, the line will remain up for 120
seconds in case some more traffic is destined for Corporate HQ. This saves
time in having to establish another call to Corporate HQ.

Dialer fast-idle
Sets the time that a line can remain idle before the current call is
disconnected to allow another call that is waiting to use the line. Default
is 20 seconds.

So, in keeping with my first example. Site A made a call to Corporate HQ,
sent all it's traffic and has the line still up with Corporate HQ. Now Site
A needs to place a call to Site B, but it's line is tied up, sitting on idle
to Corporate HQ. Fast-idle will force the Corporate HQ call to drop so that
it can re-use the line to call Site B.

Chris

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dialer idle-timeout and dialer fast-idle commands


Can anyone tell me the difference between these two
dialer commands ?

Explanation given in the BCRAN course notes make the
two appear to me as serving the same purpose.

Cheers

BABS


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Re: Whew... I passed

2001-01-19 Thread ROB

ItsMe,
  We need to start a whole other thread on your situation.

ItsMe wrote:

 I'm not saying I don't think you owe the company if they pay your way,
 by no means. I just saying to be aware of what you are agreeing to.

 Wow 30K to 120K, I could double my pay and not be at 120K,
 it may be time to move forward.

 Me
 ccnp+security, ccdp, mcse, mcp+i, n+, a+

 "Dennis Laganiere" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I'm ready to get spammed for this, but here are some thoughts from the
 other
  side of management.
 
  If YOU paid for your own training, lab equipment, and lab attempts
 (probably
  multiple, at $1,000 piece) then I could see your asking for a huge raise.
 
  HOWEVER, if the company paid for your training, bought $15,000 to $20,000
  worth of lab equipment for you to play with, and gave you the time to
 study,
  + lab attempts, +travel expenses+ god-knows-what-else, I think you owe
  something back, and perhaps some time served at your current rate is the
  least they could expect in return.
 
  If they support you through the whole process and you either leave or
 start
  barking for the stars salary-wise, the guy next to you, who's six months
  behind you on the same career path, won't get the price of honey for his
  tea.
 
  Again, these are just my $.02
 
 
  --- Dennis
 
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  Sent: 1/18/01 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Whew... I passed
 
  Convincing the VP isn't the hard part, its after you pass explaining to
  the
  VP
  that a $20K/year raise is warranted. Which in turn he says your are
  nuts,
  so you decide to leave... until he breaks out the agreement that says in
  fine print that you have agreed to pay back all training funds it you
  leave...
  Be careful!
 
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  DF49A3EC4130D411AC1600508B608DDF01116426@DIALPAD-EX2">news:DF49A3EC4130D411AC1600508B608DDF01116426@DIALPAD-EX2...
   Well, I did it.  I passed the CCIE written exam this morning. And, for
  just
   a moment, I felt the weight of the world lift off my shoulders.  Then
  I
   thought about the lab exam and what I need to do to get there.
  Thankfully,
   I have a plan; it just needs to be put on paper so it can be a working
   document.
   I have posted much in the recent weeks about how I have studied to get
  this
   far, so I won't post it again.  But if you have specific questions
  about
   certain areas, that won't violate the NDA, I will be happy to answer
  them.
   Now, my next challenge comes along... not the lab... convincing my
  boss
  that
   the company should pay for the lab exam and any needed materials for
  getting
   there. I know that I shouldn't rely on this as the means to the end;
  but
  if
   I can get it, why not?  Anyone have any pointers on how to convince a
  VP
   that doesn't know much about the CCIE program that he should approve
  these
   things?
   Thanks for the wonderful humor and study tips!
  
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RE: why is routing needed with VLANs - ARP?

2001-01-19 Thread Baety Wayne A1C 18 CS/SCBD

Because VLANs are what they are, virtual lans,
in other words many lan segments (self contained
broadcast domains).  We're trying to accomplish
something in software, which was traditionally
implemented physically.

The Question 2 you is...  What is the traditional
way of moving 1 packet from a lan segment to
another that doesnt share the same broadcast
domain? (i.e. Not just connected by a bridge or
layer 2 switch)

Answer: Routing.

Clients don't find IP address of other clients in
different broadcast domains.  To them, they simply
don't exist.  Only the common Router between them exists.
(Layer 2 is completely Ignorant of Layer 3). They only
ARP the IP address of the Router. Or should I say RARP.
They're usually configured with the gw IP already.

Wayne

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What I'm saying is that, before we implement VLANs, we have a flat
address space, with obviously, no routing.
Now, suppose that I arbitrarily decide not to forward broadcasts out
ports 6-10 through some IOS command.
Everything will still work quite happily (except anything relying on
those broadcasts, of course).
...
Ooops.   I think that I just saw the answer.

One of those broadcast thingys is lil' ole ARP.
So, how does a client find the IP address of a destination if the
destination is outside the VLAN?

It's funny that this wasn't pointed out in any of my VLAN reading
(admittedly limited to ICND coursebook and Caslow).
It just arbitrarily says unicasts are blocked or routing is
required without giving a reason.

Oh, well.


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Subject: why is routing needed with VLANs


OK.
I must be brain dead, today.
   (and, yes, Chuck, I *have* had my morning dose of Diet Coke :)
and, yes, I know, "What's so special about 'today' "?
   )
As far I can understand it so far, about the only benefit that I see
from VLANs is reducing the size of broadcast domains.

Suppose that I have a switch in the closet with one big flat address
space (well, it couldn't be that big with only one switch, now, could
it ?).  Then someone says,
  "You know, we're getting a lot of blah-blah broadcast traffic.
   Let's VLAN.
  "
OK, fine.  We VLAN and put whatever services in each VLAN that are
required to handle the broadcasts (e.g., DHCP service).  So, now the
switch doesn't send broadcasts outside a particular VLAN.

But, what's so magic about a VLAN that the switch also decides not to
send unicasts outside a VLAN.   Before the VLANs, the switch maintained
a MAC table and knew which port to go out to get to any unicast address
in the entire space.  So, why can't it continue to do that after we
arbitrarily implement some constraint on broadcast addresses?
It seems to me that the same, exact MAC table, with an additional VLAN
field would not require that restriction.  If it's a broadcast, send the
packet only out ports with a VLAN-id that matches the source port's
VLAN-id.  If it's a unicast, handle it just like we used to.


Similarly, even if we have 5 switches, I just don't see the requirement
that we (as switch-code designers) must block unicasts and resort to a
routing requirement.

Even with 500 switches ... well, let's not get ridiculous :)


I feel that there is a simple point that I've overlooked, so I will
continue to RTFM while I await your responses.)


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Re: Remote Telnet access via dial-up

2001-01-19 Thread John Nemeth

On Jun 10, 11:13am, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

 Yes.  I would have the head of anybody that tried that stunt.  At
the very least, he should have been using ssh.  However, even that
would have been dicey.

 As far as the lack of an analogue phone line, that problem is
easily solved (depending on your point of view) by using CDPD (Cellular
D? Packet Data).  I have a friend in Canada that has a CDPD modem in
his laptop.  The service is $50/month for unlimited usage from Telus
Mobility.  It doesn't matter where he is, his laptop is always
on-line.  Add an ethernet card in the second PCMCIA slot, and you've
got a roaming router that could create a back door into any network.

}-- End of excerpt from Priscilla Oppenheimer

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Strange Router CPU Utilisation

2001-01-19 Thread Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)

Hello, gang.
I'd like to know if anyone has seen this behaviour of a 4505 (v.11.2) where
it is able to handle heavy traffic throughout the day with no more than a
50% cpu utilisation max but shows a few periods of spikes up to 98% when
there is no WAN traffic say 4am or 9pm. These spikes show up as "outgoing"
traffic which lasts ~15 to 20 mins on MRTG chart. Nothing shows up on the
syslogs. I once tried sniffer before the router "crashed" and all i saw was
a build up of ICMP and "other" packets. My guess is this is because the
router is not responding to client requests thus it keeps getting a barage
of "ICMP". This only shows up on the ethernet ports, i.e. coming in from e0,
out e1 in reference to MRTG.
Any ideas would help. Thanks.

Elmer Deloso

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Re: PPP over Frame-Relay

2001-01-19 Thread AABAN34

I got it to work, all I needed to do was to remove the =A0 ppp authenticatio=
n=20
chap pap
 and it I could ping each other.


Thanks  Brian

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Re: Multicast Group Join???

2001-01-19 Thread Mike Fountain

It is driven by the application.  The application decides it wants to work
by multicasting packets or receiving multicast packets, so it reports it
wants to join multicast group X where X is a multicast IP that was either
coded into it, or configured by the user.

If you have two users with the same application, but they enter different
multicast IPs to use, they won't be able to talk because they will be in
different groups.


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Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:35 PM
Subject: Multicast Group Join???



 I'm studying CCNP Switching and am hung-up on a part of multicast.

 Multicast works by a client sending a membership report that it wants to
 join a particular multicast group.

 I do not understand how the client knows about the existence of any
 particular group or what it's multicast address would be, or what
 application/service the client will receive as a part of that group.
 How does a client know enough about the group to want to join the group.

 I understand the layer 3 and layer 2 of it all, but I'm having a
 disconnect as to how it all interacts with the higher levels of the
 stack.

 Thank You,


 Mike B.



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Re: Seally Question!!!!

2001-01-19 Thread John Nemeth

On Mar 15, 10:37am, "Joseph Kiang" wrote:
}
} What's the difference between NetBIOS and NetBEUI???

 NetBIOS is a networking API, similar to Berkeley sockets and
winsocks.  It is approximately layer 4.  NetBEUI is a networking
protocol.  It is a very simple one where hosts are identified by 14
character names, and there is no network field (i.e. it isn't routable;
things like DLSw and DLSw+ not withstanding).  It is approximately
layer 2.

}-- End of excerpt from "Joseph Kiang"

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Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-19 Thread Ruben Arias

Sorry, I was trying to make a puzzle with the words, instead  I did a lot of noise in 
the line, looks like I have to improve my language!

Peter Van Oene wrote:

 To me, there is no concept of a layer three VLAN.  If you chose to route IP, you 
need a router, whether you have dynamic or statically configured broadcast scopes is 
fully irrelevant.  If you are talking about dynamic VLAN membership based on IP 
address (or protocol for that matter), then I will agree that some level of layer 3 
and potentially above awareness is required to identify the address or protocol.  
However, any such application that I have seen (mostly Xylan) performed this at the 
switch level.

 Given most networks are running DHCP, or moving in that direction, VLAN's that 
determined membership based on IP address would be a challenging thing to accomplish.

 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

 On 1/18/2001 at 9:21 AM Ruben Arias wrote:

 VLANs can be defined by MAC address or IP address.
 When MAC address is used, you have a layer 2 VLAN, when IP address is used you have 
a layer 3 VLAN and a router is needed.
 Layer 2 VLANs mostly used for filtering (never done, I supose is a hard work to 
mantain)
 
 
 Peter Van Oene wrote:
 
  Just for clarity, VLAN's are a layer 2 concept and IP is of course a layer 3 
(please do not start with the "but what layer is arp again" :)
 
  Despite subnets and VLAN's generally happening on a 1:1 basis in a lot of 
theoretical and practical discussions, the two concepts are totally unrelated and 
altogether unaware of each others presence.  An IP host will not detect a node is on 
another VLAN and hence send to the gateway, it will detect a node is on another 
subnet.  It doesn' t really care if the node is in the same broadcast domain or 
halfway around the world, if its not on the network, its sent via the gateway.  This 
is very strict behavior.  Nodes on different IP subnets do not communicate directly 
in any case without the use of an intermediary, layer 3 device.
 
  VLANs as a concept are of trivial complexity.  VLAN membership, particularly 
dynamic membership along with protocols like 802.1q, ISL, PVST etc that leverage and 
support VLANs do offer some element of challenge and opportunity for best practise 
designs.
 
  I just felt that the line between VLANs (broadcast domains) and IP subnets was 
getting somewhat blurry when it really shouldn't be.
 
  *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
 
  On 1/16/2001 at 10:19 AM Curtis Call wrote:
 
  Keep in mind that seperate VLANs will be seperate subnets.  Which means
  that by default a host will encapsulate any IP packet destined for a
  different VLAN within an ethernet packet with a destination MAC address of
  the default gateway.  So a layer 2 switch will never get the chance to try
  and "switch" between VLANs since everytime a host needs to get to a
  different VLAN (subnet) it will just send a packet to the router which is
  on the same VLAN in order for it to be routed.
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Bob Vance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:35 AM
  To: CISCO_GroupStudy List (E-mail)
  Subject: why is routing needed with VLANs
  
  
  OK.
  I must be brain dead, today.
  (and, yes, Chuck, I *have* had my morning dose of Diet Coke :)
   and, yes, I know, "What's so special about 'today' "?
  )
  As far I can understand it so far, about the only benefit that I see
  from VLANs is reducing the size of broadcast domains.
  
  Suppose that I have a switch in the closet with one big flat address
  space (well, it couldn't be that big with only one switch, now, could
  it ?).  Then someone says,
 "You know, we're getting a lot of blah-blah broadcast traffic.
  Let's VLAN.
 "
  OK, fine.  We VLAN and put whatever services in each VLAN that are
  required to handle the broadcasts (e.g., DHCP service).  So, now the
  switch doesn't send broadcasts outside a particular VLAN.
  
  But, what's so magic about a VLAN that the switch also decides not to
  send unicasts outside a VLAN.   Before the VLANs, the switch maintained
  a MAC table and knew which port to go out to get to any unicast address
  in the entire space.  So, why can't it continue to do that after we
  arbitrarily implement some constraint on broadcast addresses?
  It seems to me that the same, exact MAC table, with an additional VLAN
  field would not require that restriction.  If it's a broadcast, send =
  the
  packet only out ports with a VLAN-id that matches the source port's
  VLAN-id.  If it's a unicast, handle it just like we used to.
  
  
  Similarly, even if we have 5 switches, I just don't see the requirement
  that we (as switch-code designers) must block unicasts and resort to a
  routing requirement.
  
  Even with 500 switches ... well, let's not get ridiculous :)
  
  
  I feel that there is a simple point that I've overlooked, so I will
  continue to RTFM while I await your 

RE: HELP WITH RAD MULTIPROTOCOL SWICTH

2001-01-19 Thread Gustavo Gomez

I'll send via E-mail the complete manual in zip format only to you.

Gustavo Gómez
Professional Services Manager
Mercury Communications
Te: (5411) 4314-6555
Fax : (5411) 4314-6555
www.mercury.com.ar


-Original Message-
From: Barbara Cobbina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Viernes, 19 de Enero de 2001 06:26 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: HELP WITH RAD MULTIPROTOCOL SWICTH


Sorry forgot to mention the modell. The model is FPS 8

--- Gustavo Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Model ???

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Barbara Cobbina
 Sent: Jueves, 18 de Enero de 2001 02:39 p.m.
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 Subject: HELP WITH RAD MULTIPROTOCOL SWICTH


 Comarades

 Can someone please help me set up a rad
 multiprotocol
 switch for me to be able to play with ISDN and frame
 relay.

 I need the pin-outs for the console cable so that I
 can set it up  from scratch. I cannot  get into the
 damn thing to manage or set it up initially. Can
 anyone help ?

 Cheers


 Babs

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Re: Seally Question!!!!

2001-01-19 Thread Peter Van Oene

NetBIOS can be transported over three main protocols, IP, IPX or at layer 2 over LLC 
(type 2 I believe).  Netbeui is simply the name for Netbios over LLC.  The lack of a 
layer 3 transport lends to all the criticism of its ability to scale, and also to its 
easy of use since it simply floods broadcast domains by default.

Pete


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Re: Second hand ROUTERS/SWITCHES in London ?

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Re: OSPF Redistribution

2001-01-19 Thread Jeff McCoy

this works greatthanks.

"Chris McCoy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Jeff,

   Depending on IOS version there is a slight "feature"
 (I say bug) that allows you to do this.

   You make a 'summary-address' statement under your
 router ospf 500 configuration that covers the subnets
 you wish to summarize at the classful boundry, in this
 case it would be:

 router ospf 500
   summary-address 152.52.15.0 255.255.255.0
   summary-address 152.52.2.0 255.255.255.0

 What this does is create two routes with the above
 mentioned addresses and points them to the Null 0
 interface.  These routes will be redistributed into
 IGRP and will propagate these as normal out Serial 0.4
 since you are in the same basic "class B" range.  If
 your serial interface were in a different class, you
 wouldn't need to do this since it would get
 auto-summarized to 152.52.0.0.  Keep in mind that once
 you pick a subnet mask, you must stick with it
 throughout the same classful address.  I say this is a
 bug since summary-address is normally used when you
 are redistributing other protocols into OSPF to
 summarize a range.  Others may disagree.

 Chris M.

 --- Jeff McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a senerio like this
 
  redistributing rtr
  int s0/0.3 - 152.52.0.3 /24  p
  int s0/0.4 - 152.52.64.3 /24 m
  int e0/0 - 152.52.2.1 /23
  int loop0 - 152.52.15.254 /32
 
  router ospf 500
  net 152.52.0.0 0.0.15.255 area 0
 
  router igrp 400
  redistribute ospf 500 met 100 1 255 1 1500
  passive-interface Ethernet0/0
  passive-interface Serial0/0.3
  passive-interface Loopback0
  network 152.52.0.0
  neighbor 152.52.64.4
 
  Other OSPF routers have various masks for
  interfaces.  I understand that
  only /24 networks will redistribute.  On ABRs I put
  a statement like:
  area 3 range 152.52.33.0 255.255.255.0
  This allows the IGRP to get the 33.0 /24 network.
  How do I get the networks 152.52.15.254/32 and
  152.52.2.0/23 on area 0 to
  redistribute into IGRP?  I have tried to add a
  statment like this on the
  redistributing router:
  area 0 range 152.52.15.0 255.255.255.0
 
  This does not work.
 
  Any ideas?
 
 
 
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ISDN connectivity pbm.

2001-01-19 Thread puneet bhardwaj

Hi,
   I have a 64Kbps dialup ISDN line from my ISP.I use
Cisco 1750 router for connectivity with Siemens
Euro-NTBA NT1 device.

The link was working fine when suddenly I started
getting these messages on my Cisco console.

ISDN BR0: received HOST_DISCONNECT call_id 0x80AF
00:53:240518168576: ISDN BR0: Event:  Call to
916211010 was hung up.
00:53:242673712820: ISDN BR0: process_disc_ack(): call
id 0x80AF, ces 1, call ty
pe DATA
00:53:242673713200: ISDN BR0: received
HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK call_id 0x80AF
00:53:240518168576: ISDN BR0: HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK:
call type is DATA.
00:53:58: ISDN BR0: Outgoing call id = 0x80B0, dsl 0
00:53:58: ISDN BR0: Event: Call to 916211010 at 64
Kb/s
00:53:58: ISDN BR0: process_bri_call(): call id
0x80B0, called_number 916211010,
 speed 64, call type DATA
00:53:249108103168: CC_CHAN_GetIdleChanbri: dsl 0
00:53:249108103168: Found idle channel B1
00:53:251263647540: ISDN BR0: received
HOST_INFORMATION call_id 0x80B0
00:53:249108103168: ISDN Event: dsl 0 call_id 0x80B0 B
channel assigned by switc
h 0
ISDN BR0: received HOST_DISCONNECT call_id 0x80B0


My ISP says that the voltage on ISDN line is fine (By
the way: what shud be the normal voltage level on an
ISDN line??) Few days back when I tested the voltage
it was approx. 110 Volts DC.

When I do sh isdn history on my router I find the
router is not dialingthe BRI no. allotted to me by my
ISP.

Has the NT1 gone faulty ???

Kindly guide...

Thanks in advance
Puneet.


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Re: Seally Question!!!!

2001-01-19 Thread Adam Hickey

A little further clarification.

NetBEUI is a networking protocol which uses NetBIOS at its core. Thus its
name is an acronym for NetBIOS Extended User Interface.

Adam Hickey

- Original Message -
From: "John Nemeth" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Joseph Kiang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: Seally Question


 On Mar 15, 10:37am, "Joseph Kiang" wrote:
 }
 } What's the difference between NetBIOS and NetBEUI???

  NetBIOS is a networking API, similar to Berkeley sockets and
 winsocks.  It is approximately layer 4.  NetBEUI is a networking
 protocol.  It is a very simple one where hosts are identified by 14
 character names, and there is no network field (i.e. it isn't routable;
 things like DLSw and DLSw+ not withstanding).  It is approximately
 layer 2.

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Re: Beautiful Day, I passed CCIE written test today

2001-01-19 Thread Charles Henson

Congrats! I passed Thursday with a 78 also! I'll see you in the lab study
group! Congrats again!

Charles Henson

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 Hello Everyone,

 Failing the CCIE written test by one point yesterday really left a bad
 taste in my mouth. I brushed up and took the test again today. The
question
 pool must be pretty big as I only got maybe 15 questions that were the
same
 from yesterday. Anyway I passed the test with a mark of 75 and am
thrilled.
 This whole ordeal has given me a better respect for certification,
 especially this test. As much as I learned in the process of getting to
 this point, I also realized there is that much more to learn.

 I am now planning on a quick pit stop to get Nortell NNCSS certification
in
 routing(Any advice out there?). I then plan to obtain CCNP specialties in
 ATM and Voice over IP while studying for the lab.

 Now I will have to look back in the mail archives for suggestions on
 putting together a CCIE lab and taking a 2nd mortgage on the home so I can
 afford the equipment.

 I'd like to thank everyone on the group for their advice, this has been
the
 best source of information for me. Time to watch some brainless
 entertainment tonight(Cough) WWF Wrestling(cough) I find it helps me relax
 after thinking so much :)

 Thanks Everyone,

 -Eric Gunn

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Re: Seally Question!!!!

2001-01-19 Thread John Nemeth

On Jun 11, 12:14am, Adam Hickey wrote:
}
} A little further clarification.
} 
} NetBEUI is a networking protocol which uses NetBIOS at its core. Thus its
} name is an acronym for NetBIOS Extended User Interface.

 Usually I think of "core" as being the innermost or lowest layer
of something.  NetBEUI doesn't provide a user interface, it is the
lowest layer, sitting just above the hardware.  The name is a bit of a
misnomer.

}-- End of excerpt from Adam Hickey

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RE: why is routing needed with VLANs - ARP?

2001-01-19 Thread Bob Vance

What is the traditional
way of moving 1 packet from a lan segment to
another that doesnt share the same broadcast
domain? (i.e. Not just connected by a bridge or
layer 2 switch)
Answer: Routing.

I know that you're speaking practically, but,
it's not evident, a priori, that
   " moving 1 packet from a lan segment to another
 that doesn't share the same broadcast domain ..
   "
*requires* routing.  And, in fact, it *doesn't* (at least in the sense
of IP routing.  Let's not get too far into the semantics of the word
"routing" ;).

The whole point of my noodling, was "*Why* do we need the router."
It would certainly be a lot cheaper (cost and process) if we didn't
need one.


The answer is that limiting broadcasts limits practical communication
at the IP level because of IP address discovery (forgetting about all
other protocols), as you point out.  But, I contend that this is a
practical consideration, not theoretical.

For example, we *could*, of course, still have the possibility of
entering static ARP entries into two clients on different VLANs pointing
to each other in the same flat address space.
Then *if* the switch commingled VLAN MAC addresses *and* forwarded
inter-VLAN unicasts, *then* the 2 clients *could* talk.

In fact, it seems that if there were some kind of server process in each
VLAN that handled various broadcast requests, then the scenario *could*
work, generally, without a router.
Of course, we've just introduced another box/process, so what has been
gained ?)

I dunno.  Just seems to me that the text books ought to point this out
and make the router requirement clearer.  Then, again, maybe I'm the
only one that didn't see the issue right away :)

This may be all just angels dancing on a pin, but thinking about the
why always makes me learn more.

One of my aphorisms is;

"If you learn the *why* of something, you'll never
 forget the *how* of it.
"

Oh, boy.  My kids, eyes are a-rollin', again :)


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-Original Message-
From: Baety Wayne A1C 18 CS/SCBD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 6:11 AM
To: 'Bob Vance'
Cc: CISCO_GroupStudy List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: why is routing needed with VLANs - ARP?


Because VLANs are what they are, virtual lans,
in other words many lan segments (self contained
broadcast domains).  We're trying to accomplish
something in software, which was traditionally
implemented physically.

The Question 2 you is...  What is the traditional
way of moving 1 packet from a lan segment to
another that doesnt share the same broadcast
domain? (i.e. Not just connected by a bridge or
layer 2 switch)

Answer: Routing.

Clients don't find IP address of other clients in
different broadcast domains.  To them, they simply
don't exist.  Only the common Router between them exists.
(Layer 2 is completely Ignorant of Layer 3). They only
ARP the IP address of the Router. Or should I say RARP.
They're usually configured with the gw IP already.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: Bob Vance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:50 AM
To: CISCO_GroupStudy List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: why is routing needed with VLANs - ARP?


What I'm saying is that, before we implement VLANs, we have a flat
address space, with obviously, no routing.
Now, suppose that I arbitrarily decide not to forward broadcasts out
ports 6-10 through some IOS command.
Everything will still work quite happily (except anything relying on
those broadcasts, of course).
...
Ooops.   I think that I just saw the answer.

One of those broadcast thingys is lil' ole ARP.
So, how does a client find the IP address of a destination if the
destination is outside the VLAN?

It's funny that this wasn't pointed out in any of my VLAN reading
(admittedly limited to ICND coursebook and Caslow).
It just arbitrarily says unicasts are blocked or routing is
required without giving a reason.

Oh, well.


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Bob Vance
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:35 AM
To: CISCO_GroupStudy List (E-mail)
Subject: why is routing needed with VLANs


OK.
I must be brain dead, today.
   (and, yes, Chuck, I *have* had my morning dose of Diet Coke :)
and, yes, I know, "What's so special about 'today' "?
   )
As far I can understand it so far, about the only 

Re: TCP port number 0

2001-01-19 Thread zhzh

- Original Message -
From: ""õ¸®¾È¸ÞÀÏ"" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: TCP port number 0


 ahp (51), eigrp (88), esp (50), gre (47), igrp (9), icmp (1), igmp (2),
igrp (9), ip (0), ipinip (4), nos (94), ospf (89), pcp (108), pim (103), tcp
(6), or udp (17).

 0 is 'ip'.



Sorry to say this, but all this has nothing to do with TCP ports - all these
are IP protocol numbers (or you can think of these as IP packet payload
type), so the IP stack "knows" what inside the packet. WWW.ietf.com :-)


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Re: ISDN connectivity pbm.

2001-01-19 Thread zhzh

Do you mind to post output from

sh isdn status
deb isdn q931
deb isdn q921

It could really help to troubleshoot


RGRDS,
"puneet bhardwaj" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi,
I have a 64Kbps dialup ISDN line from my ISP.I use
 Cisco 1750 router for connectivity with Siemens
 Euro-NTBA NT1 device.

 The link was working fine when suddenly I started
 getting these messages on my Cisco console.

 ISDN BR0: received HOST_DISCONNECT call_id 0x80AF
 00:53:240518168576: ISDN BR0: Event:  Call to
 916211010 was hung up.
 00:53:242673712820: ISDN BR0: process_disc_ack(): call
 id 0x80AF, ces 1, call ty
 pe DATA
 00:53:242673713200: ISDN BR0: received
 HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK call_id 0x80AF
 00:53:240518168576: ISDN BR0: HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK:
 call type is DATA.
 00:53:58: ISDN BR0: Outgoing call id = 0x80B0, dsl 0
 00:53:58: ISDN BR0: Event: Call to 916211010 at 64
 Kb/s
 00:53:58: ISDN BR0: process_bri_call(): call id
 0x80B0, called_number 916211010,
  speed 64, call type DATA
 00:53:249108103168: CC_CHAN_GetIdleChanbri: dsl 0
 00:53:249108103168: Found idle channel B1
 00:53:251263647540: ISDN BR0: received
 HOST_INFORMATION call_id 0x80B0
 00:53:249108103168: ISDN Event: dsl 0 call_id 0x80B0 B
 channel assigned by switc
 h 0
 ISDN BR0: received HOST_DISCONNECT call_id 0x80B0


 My ISP says that the voltage on ISDN line is fine (By
 the way: what shud be the normal voltage level on an
 ISDN line??) Few days back when I tested the voltage
 it was approx. 110 Volts DC.

 When I do sh isdn history on my router I find the
 router is not dialingthe BRI no. allotted to me by my
 ISP.

 Has the NT1 gone faulty ???

 Kindly guide...

 Thanks in advance
 Puneet.


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Re: TCP port number 0

2001-01-19 Thread Neil Desai

Most likely someone was trying to do some "passive OS fingerprinting" with
hping2. The default port the hping2 uses is 0. They might have been trying
to map your network or they may have been just poking around.
Neil




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 Hi,

 Does anyone know what is the purpose of tcp port number 0 ?
 I have an experience catching traffic coming from HTTP server with tcp =
 port number 0 and destinated to any IP address with tcp port number 0. =
 After I put an incoming acces-list that blocked port number 0, a few =
 minute later I saw this packet was never being generated again. The =
 access-list is applied for incoming traffic.
 For example :

 access-list 101 deny   tcp host HTTPserver eq 0 any log
 access-list 101 deny   tcp any any eq 0 log
 access-list 101 deny   tcp any eq 0 any log
 access-list 101 permit ip any any

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Re: ISDN crossover???

2001-01-19 Thread Brad Ellis

Dean,

You'll need an ISDN simulator.  Or, you could order an ISDN line and use
that.  It really depends on the location you're going to be using your lab.

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Cisco Hardware: www.optsys.net

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 Hello all I have a 2610 with 2 WIC-1B-U units in it and a 2503.  I'm
 wondering if there is a way I can connect the 2 units with a ISDN
 crossover cable (if there is a wiring pattern or such a thing) in order
 to try and setup ISDN in a lab situation.  Has anyone tried to do this?
 Do I maybe need some intermediate hardware to simulate ISDN with no
 connection to a telco or an ISP for this service?

 Thanks
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 On the home stretch to CCNA.

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Re: dialer idle-timeout and dialer fast-idle commands

2001-01-19 Thread John Neiberger

The idle-timeout is how long a particular link will stay up with no
interesting traffic and with no other calls waiting to be placed.  Now let's
say you have a BRI with two channels and both are being used, but there is
another call waiting to be placed, another dialer that wants to use the BRI.
In this situation, the fast idle-timeout is how long a call will stay up
with no interesting traffic before it disconnects the current call to make
room for the next outgoing call.

The fast idle is a simple way to quickly make room for new calls without
waiting for the more lengthy idle-timeout period to expire.

HTH,
John

  Can anyone tell me the difference between these two
  dialer commands ?
  
  Explanation given in the BCRAN course notes make the
  two appear to me as serving the same purpose.
  
  Cheers
  
  BABS
  
  
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Re: Seally Question!!!!

2001-01-19 Thread Adam Hickey

point taken...
=)

Adam

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 }
 } A little further clarification.
 }
 } NetBEUI is a networking protocol which uses NetBIOS at its core. Thus
its
 } name is an acronym for NetBIOS Extended User Interface.

  Usually I think of "core" as being the innermost or lowest layer
 of something.  NetBEUI doesn't provide a user interface, it is the
 lowest layer, sitting just above the hardware.  The name is a bit of a
 misnomer.

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Routers in my lab

2001-01-19 Thread Albert Lu

Hi all,

Take a look at what I've got in my lab consisting of 12 routers.

3x2503
2511
2501
2521
2502
2504
2x2610
2x2620

Have I over done it? Are there scenarios in the CCIE that may need all
this? What should I keep what should I get rid of?

Thanks

Albert

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RE: TCP port number 0

2001-01-19 Thread Chuck Larrieu

TCP port 0 is reserved.

Bookmark this site:
http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/port-numbers

Chuck

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Nurarif W
Sent:   Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:TCP port number 0

Hi,

Does anyone know what is the purpose of tcp port number 0 ?
I have an experience catching traffic coming from HTTP server with tcp =
port number 0 and destinated to any IP address with tcp port number 0. =
After I put an incoming acces-list that blocked port number 0, a few =
minute later I saw this packet was never being generated again. The =
access-list is applied for incoming traffic.
For example :

access-list 101 deny   tcp host HTTPserver eq 0 any log
access-list 101 deny   tcp any any eq 0 log
access-list 101 deny   tcp any eq 0 any log
access-list 101 permit ip any any

Thank you


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Follow up on multicast worm

2001-01-19 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Couple of follow ups on one of the latest threats:

-
Also see
http://service1.symantec.com/sarc/sarc.nsf/html/Linux.Ramen.Worm.html I like
the part about it patching the holes that it uses...
--Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Second day of rolling blackouts starts


Two people have asked me off list about the RAMEN worm, which affects Linux
Redhat distro's. Here is brief description of the worm, and a link to more,
from Lucy Lynch at Internet2 / UOregon.
The multicast implications :
This worm scans a portion of the multicast address space. These scans
(packets) are viewed as new multicast sources by a PIM multicast enabled
router, which encapsulates them and sends them to its RP. The RP creates
MSDP Session Announcements FOR EACH SCAN and floods them to every RP
neighbor it has in "nearby" AS's, and those repeat the process.
The result is a MSDP packet storm. We have gotten 15,000 SA's a minute.
Dealing with these can melt down routers. (We had to reboot a Cisco 7204,
for example, which apparently either filled up or fragmented its memory
beyond usability.)
I think it is fair to say that the question of rate limiting and other DOS
filtering in PIM/SSM/MSDP multicast is getting serious attention now.
Marshall Eubanks

"Lucy E. Lynch" wrote:

 a bit more info on ramen here:

 http://members.home.net/dtmartin24/ramen_worm.txt

 "And now, the contents of that ramen.tgz file: All the binaries are in the
 archive twice, with RedHat 6.2 and RedHat 7.0 versions. Numerous binaries
 were not stripped, which makes the job of taking them apart easier."

 asp:   An xinetd config. file that will start up the fake webserver
Used on RedHat 7.0 victim machines.
 asp62: HTTP/0.9-compatible server that always serves out the file
/tmp/ramen.tgz to any request - NOT stripped
 asp7:  RedHat 7-compiled version - NOT stripped
 bd62.sh:   Does the setup (installing wormserver, removing vulnerable
programs, adding ftp users) for RedHat 6.2
 bd7.sh:Same for RedHat 7.0
 getip.sh:  Utility script to get the main external IP address
 hackl.sh:  Driver to read the .l file and pass addresses to lh.sh
 hackw.sh:  Driver to read the .w file and pass addresses to wh.sh
 index.html: HTML document text
 l62:   LPRng format string exploit program - NOT stripped
 l7:Same but compiled for RedHat 7 - stripped
 lh.sh: Driver script to execute the LPRng exploit with several
different options
 randb62:   Picks a random class-B subnet to scan on - NOT stripped
 randb7:Same but compiled for RedHat 7 - NOT stripped
 s62:   statdx exploit - NOT stripped
 s7:Same but compiled for RedHat 7 - stripped
 scan.sh:   get a classB network from randb and run synscan
 start.sh:  Replace any index.html with the one from the worm; run getip;
determine if we're RedHat 6.2 or 7.0 and run the appropriate
bd*.sh and start*.sh
 start62.sh: start (backgrounded) scan.sh, hackl.sh, and hackw.sh
 start7.sh:  Same as start62.sh
 synscan62:  Modified synscan tool - records to .w and .l files - stripped
 synscan7:   Same but compiled for RedHat 7 - stripped
 w62:venglin wu-ftpd exploit - stripped
 w7: Same but compiled for RedHat 7 - stripped
 wh.sh: Driver script to call the "s" and "w" binaries against a given
target
 wu62:  Apparently only included by mistake.  "strings" shows it to be
very similar to w62; nowhere is this binary ever invoked.

 Lucy E. Lynch   Academic User Services
 Computing CenterUniversity of Oregon


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RE: Routers in my lab

2001-01-19 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I would keep them all unless you're in acute need of money. Even though I'm
many frequent flyer miles away from the CCIE, I do believe that you can not
have to much equipment to practice on.

If it were for the CCNA only, 1,2 or 3 2500's should be plenty.

You might want to get rid of a some of the 2500's and get different routers
instead, plus a switch or two. You can keep buying stuff from now to
Christmas, the only thing that stops you are the amount of money you can
afford to spend on this.

If I was a multi-millionaire and for some reason still wanted to study for
these Cisco tests, I would buy every model they have ever made and setup a
whole house as a lab.

But, I'm not, so I currently only have four 2500's to play with, but that's
kind of okay for now. I would have liked a Cat5000, but that's a little too
heavy for my wallet.

Hth,

Ole


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-Original Message-
From: Albert Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Routers in my lab


Hi all,

Take a look at what I've got in my lab consisting of 12 routers.

3x2503
2511
2501
2521
2502
2504
2x2610
2x2620

Have I over done it? Are there scenarios in the CCIE that may need all
this? What should I keep what should I get rid of?

Thanks

Albert

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Re: Access Lists on a Cisco 7200

2001-01-19 Thread Scott S.

Thanks everyone for helping out.  I think Jason's suggestion along with the
permit any/any line  is probably the way to go for us. So basically, I will
have the following:


access-list 101 deny udp any 195.50.79.0 0.0.0.255 range 137 139
access-list 101 deny tcp any 195.50.79.0 0.0.0.255 range 137 139
access-list 101 permit ip any any


Then, I will type the following:

 en
# config terminal
(config) int Hssi1/0
(config-if) ip access-group 101 in

I'm assumming I need the "in" part because the default appears to be out on
the test router I am experimenting on and I want this to apply to incoming
traffic.  Is this correct?


Thx again,

Scott





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 Remember, the fewer lines an ACL is, the faster it is parsed, the faster
 packets pass:
 access-list 101 deny   udp any 195.50.79.0 0.0.0.255 range 137 139
 access-list 101 deny   tcp any 195.50.79.0 0.0.0.255 range 137 139

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  Scott,
 
  The following example will block the full suite of NetBios inbound to
you
  (presumably 195.50.79.0/24). This is not a complete ACL -- it will be
  necessary to either specifically allow the traffic you desire inbound,
or
  add another line to the bottom (currently commented out) permitting
  everything else.
 
  access-list 101 deny   udp any 195.50.79.0 0.0.0.255 eq netbios-dgm
  access-list 101 deny   udp any 195.50.79.0 0.0.0.255 eq netbios-ns
  access-list 101 deny   udp any 195.50.79.0 0.0.0.255 eq netbios-ss
  access-list 101 deny   tcp any 195.50.79.0 0.0.0.255 eq 137
  access-list 101 deny   tcp any 195.50.79.0 0.0.0.255 eq 138
  access-list 101 deny   tcp any 195.50.79.0 0.0.0.255 eq 139
  ! access-list 101 permit ip any any
 
  jas
 
  At 07:35 PM 1/17/01 +, Scott S. wrote:
  Our WatchGuard FireBox seems to be getting overloaded by the number of
  NetBios packets it is denying.  We are thinking that it might be a good
 idea
  of blocking these at our router instead.  It is a Cisco 7200 with a
 pretty
  light load.  Does this sound like a sensible idea?  If so I was
thinking
 the
  following rule would be appropriate:
  
  access-list 101 deny any 195.50.79.0 eq 137
  
  
  Is this correct, or am I way off?
  
  
  Thanks in advance for any replies.
  
  
  Sincerely,
  
  Scott
  
 


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Re: Routers in my lab

2001-01-19 Thread Albert Lu

I'm thinking of getting rid of

1x2503
2x2610
1x2502
1x2504

And using that money to get Cat5000 and ISDN simulator. I'm also
considering a couple of 2513, do I really need 2513 if so do I need 2 or
can I go with 1?

I know people who's done CCIE with just 6-7 routers, I'm not sure how I can
make use of more than that either. 

BTW. My aim is to be able to do most of the CCBootcamp labs.

--
 From: Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Albert Lu' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Routers in my lab
 Date: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:45 AM
 
 I would keep them all unless you're in acute need of money. Even though
I'm
 many frequent flyer miles away from the CCIE, I do believe that you can
not
 have to much equipment to practice on.
 
 If it were for the CCNA only, 1,2 or 3 2500's should be plenty.
 
 You might want to get rid of a some of the 2500's and get different
routers
 instead, plus a switch or two. You can keep buying stuff from now to
 Christmas, the only thing that stops you are the amount of money you can
 afford to spend on this.
 
 If I was a multi-millionaire and for some reason still wanted to study
for
 these Cisco tests, I would buy every model they have ever made and setup
a
 whole house as a lab.
 
 But, I'm not, so I currently only have four 2500's to play with, but
that's
 kind of okay for now. I would have liked a Cat5000, but that's a little
too
 heavy for my wallet.
 
 Hth,
 
 Ole
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Albert Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Routers in my lab
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 Take a look at what I've got in my lab consisting of 12 routers.
 
 3x2503
 2511
 2501
 2521
 2502
 2504
 2x2610
 2x2620
 
 Have I over done it? Are there scenarios in the CCIE that may need all
 this? What should I keep what should I get rid of?
 
 Thanks
 
 Albert
 
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RE: Routers in my lab

2001-01-19 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

What excactly you need or not, depends on what you want to study for next,
and what you would like to practise. If you wish to work with Token Ring,
you would need to get either a fixed router that has a build-in Token Ring
interface, or a modular router where you can get a Token Ring WIC to insert.
You would then also need a MAU (or MSAU as they are called in Microsoft
Study Guides) and one or two Token Ring NIC's so you could play around with
it.

Noone can answer your question better than yourself. Draw what you
need/would like on a piece of paper, and then look at the products available
on http://www.cisco.com

Hth,

Ole


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-Original Message-
From: Albert Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:29 AM
To: Ole Drews Jensen
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mask Of Zorro
Subject: Re: Routers in my lab


I'm thinking of getting rid of

1x2503
2x2610
1x2502
1x2504

And using that money to get Cat5000 and ISDN simulator. I'm also
considering a couple of 2513, do I really need 2513 if so do I need 2 or
can I go with 1?

I know people who's done CCIE with just 6-7 routers, I'm not sure how I can
make use of more than that either. 

BTW. My aim is to be able to do most of the CCBootcamp labs.

--
 From: Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Albert Lu' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Routers in my lab
 Date: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:45 AM
 
 I would keep them all unless you're in acute need of money. Even though
I'm
 many frequent flyer miles away from the CCIE, I do believe that you can
not
 have to much equipment to practice on.
 
 If it were for the CCNA only, 1,2 or 3 2500's should be plenty.
 
 You might want to get rid of a some of the 2500's and get different
routers
 instead, plus a switch or two. You can keep buying stuff from now to
 Christmas, the only thing that stops you are the amount of money you can
 afford to spend on this.
 
 If I was a multi-millionaire and for some reason still wanted to study
for
 these Cisco tests, I would buy every model they have ever made and setup
a
 whole house as a lab.
 
 But, I'm not, so I currently only have four 2500's to play with, but
that's
 kind of okay for now. I would have liked a Cat5000, but that's a little
too
 heavy for my wallet.
 
 Hth,
 
 Ole
 
 
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  Systems Network Manager
  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 -Original Message-
 From: Albert Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Routers in my lab
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 Take a look at what I've got in my lab consisting of 12 routers.
 
 3x2503
 2511
 2501
 2521
 2502
 2504
 2x2610
 2x2620
 
 Have I over done it? Are there scenarios in the CCIE that may need all
 this? What should I keep what should I get rid of?
 
 Thanks
 
 Albert
 
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RE: Routers in my lab

2001-01-19 Thread Daniel Cotts

Check your lab against the racks at www.ccbootcamp.com. Do you have the
routers and interfaces to replicate what Marc has done?
I don't see any switches in your gear. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Albert Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Routers in my lab
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 Take a look at what I've got in my lab consisting of 12 routers.
 
 3x2503
 2511
 2501
 2521
 2502
 2504
 2x2610
 2x2620
 
 Have I over done it? Are there scenarios in the CCIE that may need all
 this? What should I keep what should I get rid of?
 
 Thanks
 
 Albert
 
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Re: Routers in my lab

2001-01-19 Thread Kelly D Griffin

If you are going for the CCIE, I would recommend having a 3600 series so
that you can get your ATM and VoIP practice in.  You might think about a Cat
2901 instead of the 5000.  It runs the Crescendo OS just like the 5000
series.  It is significantly cheaper, as well.

Kelly D Griffin, CCNA
Network Engineer
Kg2 Network Design
http://www.kg2.com


- Original Message -
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Albert Lu'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: Routers in my lab


 I would keep them all unless you're in acute need of money. Even though
I'm
 many frequent flyer miles away from the CCIE, I do believe that you can
not
 have to much equipment to practice on.

 If it were for the CCNA only, 1,2 or 3 2500's should be plenty.

 You might want to get rid of a some of the 2500's and get different
routers
 instead, plus a switch or two. You can keep buying stuff from now to
 Christmas, the only thing that stops you are the amount of money you can
 afford to spend on this.

 If I was a multi-millionaire and for some reason still wanted to study for
 these Cisco tests, I would buy every model they have ever made and setup a
 whole house as a lab.

 But, I'm not, so I currently only have four 2500's to play with, but
that's
 kind of okay for now. I would have liked a Cat5000, but that's a little
too
 heavy for my wallet.

 Hth,

 Ole

 
  Ole Drews Jensen
  Systems Network Manager
  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.CiscoKing.com
 
  NEED A JOB ???
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 -Original Message-
 From: Albert Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Routers in my lab


 Hi all,

 Take a look at what I've got in my lab consisting of 12 routers.

 3x2503
 2511
 2501
 2521
 2502
 2504
 2x2610
 2x2620

 Have I over done it? Are there scenarios in the CCIE that may need all
 this? What should I keep what should I get rid of?

 Thanks

 Albert

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Re: Beautiful Day, I passed CCIE written test today

2001-01-19 Thread James Haynes

Congratulations to both of you.

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 Congrats! I passed Thursday with a 78 also! I'll see you in the lab study
 group! Congrats again!

 Charles Henson

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  Failing the CCIE written test by one point yesterday really left a bad
  taste in my mouth. I brushed up and took the test again today. The
 question
  pool must be pretty big as I only got maybe 15 questions that were the
 same
  from yesterday. Anyway I passed the test with a mark of 75 and am
 thrilled.
  This whole ordeal has given me a better respect for certification,
  especially this test. As much as I learned in the process of getting to
  this point, I also realized there is that much more to learn.
 
  I am now planning on a quick pit stop to get Nortell NNCSS certification
 in
  routing(Any advice out there?). I then plan to obtain CCNP specialties
in
  ATM and Voice over IP while studying for the lab.
 
  Now I will have to look back in the mail archives for suggestions on
  putting together a CCIE lab and taking a 2nd mortgage on the home so I
can
  afford the equipment.
 
  I'd like to thank everyone on the group for their advice, this has been
 the
  best source of information for me. Time to watch some brainless
  entertainment tonight(Cough) WWF Wrestling(cough) I find it helps me
relax
  after thinking so much :)
 
  Thanks Everyone,
 
  -Eric Gunn
 
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NBAR requirements and comments

2001-01-19 Thread info

Anyone using NBAR for QoS? If so, can you tell
me the minimum HW/SW requirements. Any
stories to add about your results?

I came across this article about the topic and am
trying to gather more information:

http://www.nwfusion.com/research/2000/0918feat2.html

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Re: Remote Telnet access via dial-up

2001-01-19 Thread James Haynes

Irregardless of the security implications this was still pretty cool. Thx
for the information. it may come in handy one day.


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 On Jun 10, 11:13am, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

  Yes.  I would have the head of anybody that tried that stunt.  At
 the very least, he should have been using ssh.  However, even that
 would have been dicey.

  As far as the lack of an analogue phone line, that problem is
 easily solved (depending on your point of view) by using CDPD (Cellular
 D? Packet Data).  I have a friend in Canada that has a CDPD modem in
 his laptop.  The service is $50/month for unlimited usage from Telus
 Mobility.  It doesn't matter where he is, his laptop is always
 on-line.  Add an ethernet card in the second PCMCIA slot, and you've
 got a roaming router that could create a back door into any network.

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Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)

2001-01-19 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Some of you might find this interesting:

You can now take the Security Specialization if you're CCNA - you don't need
to be a CCNP.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.html

Happy Studying,

Ole


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RE: HELP WITH RAD MULTIPROTOCOL SWICTH

2001-01-19 Thread Barbara Cobbina

The manual doesnot say anything about the pin outs for
managing the device. All I need is to be able to get
into the unit using either and RJ45 to a DB9 or 25

chhers
babs

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 Sent: Viernes, 19 de Enero de 2001 06:26 a.m.
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 Sorry forgot to mention the modell. The model is FPS
 8
 
 --- Gustavo Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Model ???
 
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  Barbara Cobbina
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  Subject: HELP WITH RAD MULTIPROTOCOL SWICTH
 
 
  Comarades
 
  Can someone please help me set up a rad
  multiprotocol
  switch for me to be able to play with ISDN and
 frame
  relay.
 
  I need the pin-outs for the console cable so that
 I
  can set it up  from scratch. I cannot  get into
 the
  damn thing to manage or set it up initially. Can
  anyone help ?
 
  Cheers
 
 
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Re: Strange Router CPU Utilisation

2001-01-19 Thread Ed Moss

How about other port utilization?  From the description, it looks like a
backup job.

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Re:strange router CPU utilisation

2001-01-19 Thread Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)

I apologise for not being specific. I did not use the MRTG output as a
measure of CPU utilisation, but rather to alert me when the spike in traffic
occurs and then look into the CLI for the % CPU utilisation. I'm hoping it's
not a scheduled ICMP barrage coming from the inside, but I'll find out soon
when i run sniffer.
Thanks for the feedback.

Elmer Deloso

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CIPT 3.0 test

2001-01-19 Thread Medley, Tim

Today I went and took the CIPT 3.0 test; Cisco IP Telephony. Passed no
problem

Really interesting test, marketing, sales, technical. I've been working with
the Cisco Call Manager for the last 15 months or so. Nothing really
difficult on the test that I haven't worked with hands on or read in the
design guide.

Topics I encountered, QoS, IP Telephony Campus Design, Clustering, Gateways,
Scalability, and Troubleshooting.

tim

I hear and I forget
I see and I believe
I do and I understand
 -Confucius


Tim Medley - CCNA, CCDA
Network Architect
VoIP Group
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FW: access-list debugs

2001-01-19 Thread Chuck Larrieu


Interesting. If I have a named access-list, it would appear I cannot do a
debug

Debug ip packet ?
(1-199) access-list
(1300-2699) access list extended range
detail
(cr)


Chuck
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CID 3.0 Exam

2001-01-19 Thread Roberts, Timothy


I am looking for some links (other than www.cisco.com) to study material for
the CID 3.0 exam.
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No traffic on ISDN BRI Connection

2001-01-19 Thread Aftab Rashid


 Hi

I am using AS5300 with 4 PRIs for incoming dialup connection. My normal
dialup connections through PSTN lines are working fine. But when we dial
using ISDN bri channel, the connection gets established but it do not
passes the traffic. The PC gets the IP assigned but could not ping even
to the RAS.  When we dial to other brand servers from the same PC and
ISDN line, it works normally.

Here is configuration of Serial interface for reference.

interface Serial0:15
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 3600
 isdn switch-type primary-net5
 isdn incoming-voice modem
 peer default ip address pool ippool
 fair-queue 64 256 0
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication pap
!

Please point out what is missing.


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Looking for site to Lucent QIP subnet calculator

2001-01-19 Thread Anthony Iyoha

Please, if you have info about the site where I can download Lucent qip 
subnet calculator,I will appreciate it very much.I know it was posted to the 
group sometimes last year but lost the address to the site.
Will really appreciate any info to the sitethanks in advance.


anthony iyoha


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Re: ISDN crossover???

2001-01-19 Thread J Roysdon

Nope, you need an actual ISDN line or an ISDN concentrator between the
interfaces.

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 Hello all I have a 2610 with 2 WIC-1B-U units in it and a 2503.  I'm
 wondering if there is a way I can connect the 2 units with a ISDN
 crossover cable (if there is a wiring pattern or such a thing) in order
 to try and setup ISDN in a lab situation.  Has anyone tried to do this?
 Do I maybe need some intermediate hardware to simulate ISDN with no
 connection to a telco or an ISP for this service?

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RE: Remote Telnet access via dial-up

2001-01-19 Thread Bob Johnson

I have to agree...
Security concerns (in my opinion) can get toned down (and from the original
post it would seem to be a pretty small hole) when you have a business
affecting issue...
Allowing TAC engineers access to the equipment can dramatically lessen done
time
Like any other issue, there is always a trade off in security and
convenience
Unfortunately I've had many TAC cases involving IOS bugs that could not have
been solved via normal "secure" methods...

Bob Johnson

-Original Message-
From: James Haynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Remote Telnet access via dial-up


Irregardless of the security implications this was still pretty cool. Thx
for the information. it may come in handy one day.


"John Nemeth" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 On Jun 10, 11:13am, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

  Yes.  I would have the head of anybody that tried that stunt.  At
 the very least, he should have been using ssh.  However, even that
 would have been dicey.

  As far as the lack of an analogue phone line, that problem is
 easily solved (depending on your point of view) by using CDPD (Cellular
 D? Packet Data).  I have a friend in Canada that has a CDPD modem in
 his laptop.  The service is $50/month for unlimited usage from Telus
 Mobility.  It doesn't matter where he is, his laptop is always
 on-line.  Add an ethernet card in the second PCMCIA slot, and you've
 got a roaming router that could create a back door into any network.

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Re: [RE: Remote Telnet access via dial-up]

2001-01-19 Thread Petra Hofmann

One must have sufficient knowledge to be shocked.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recently spent quite a bit of time working with the TAC to solve a
 problem.  Yes, they wanted to dial into the network to 'have a look'.  When
 I asked what they were looking for, they couldn't tell me.
 I am well aware that, when tracking down a problem, it can be very useful
 to just 'have a look', without really knowing what you are looking for.  I
 do it all the time :-)  However, since they couldn't (or wouldn't) even
 give me any hints on what they expected to be doing, they didn't get
 access.
 I could send them log output etc via email and they received it quickly
 enough that we could work together over the phone (the speed of incoming
 mail to me was another issue altogether but not really a problem).
 
 In any case, I've done a fair bit of troubleshooting over the phone,
 sometimes with completely non-technical people running the 'hands on'.
 Slower than telnetting in yourself?  Sure.  But it works, and sometimes
 it's the only option.  And it's VERY good practice for remembering commands
 and what output they produce ;-)
 
 JMcL
 -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 19/01/2001
 04:38 pm ---
 
 
 "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@groupstudy.com on 19/01/2001 12:39:45
 pm
 
 Please respond to "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 To:   "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:
 
 
 Subject:  RE: Remote Telnet access via dial-up
 
 
 Cisco TAC always wants to telnet in to troubleshoot when working a ticket.
 One alternative is to e-mail your configs to them, at which point maybe
 they
 will get back to you with some resolution in a time frame you can live
 with.
 
 Fact is that the internet makes things so damn convenient for us. Most time
 most people just don't consider the implications.
 
 While it may be true that some places have security policies, reasonable of
 otherwise, the fact is that most places don't, most managements don't want
 to be bothered, and most users don't want to be inconvenienced.
 
 Chuck
 
 BTW - nice to see you again, Priscilla.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:38 PM
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Remote Telnet access via dial-up
 
 At 11:11 AM 1/19/01, Tony van Ree wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As long as the appropriate security/passwords are set it is probably every
 bit as good as any other form of remote access.
 
 Remember that this wasn't CHAP or even PAP. It was Telnet. The Telnet
 password both to reach his PC and to reach the routers is unencrypted. How
 was the enable password sent? The characters were typed and sent
 unencrypted. Getting a Sniffer to the right place to catch this would be
 hard, but not impossible. Hopefully he will change the password used to
 reach his PC, but it's not likely he'll change the router VTY and enable
 passwords.
 
 So what did the Cisco engineers to when they Telnetted into this back door
 to configure the routers? Did they do show run by any chance? Yeah, I just
 got the complete configuration of the customer's routers. That is
 unencrypted also.
 
 And don't say, well it's Telnet so it's one character at a time which would
 make understanding it difficult. Responses in Telnet are not one character
 at a time. The output of show run would be send in TCP segments using the
 IP MTU. It would be very easy to understand.
 
 I don't think most customers would even let him do what he did. A lot of
 customers wouldn't have an analog phone line for him to use to dial up his
 ISP. Analog phone-line backdoors are an infamous no-no.
 
 I'd love to hear someone else's opinion too. Isn't anyone else as shocked
 as I am?
 
 Priscilla
 
 
 On Thursday, January 18, 2001 at 02:30:09 PM, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
   Sounds like a helpful troubleshooting method but what were the security
   risks? Thoughts, anyone?
  
   Priscilla
  
   At 10:31 PM 1/17/01, J Roysdon wrote:
   Today I was a site w/o internet access, but I needed to get Cisco into
  it to
   save time relaying commands and information.  I had a dial-up
  connection out
   to my ISP, and then thought about the built-in Telnet server that
 Windows
   2000 Professional has.  I made a quick guest account for Cisco, and
 told
   them my dial-up IP, which they could connect to, and then once
 telnetted
   into my workstation, they were able to telnet out my NIC to the
  routers they
   needs to get to.  Only catch is that you can only have one session up
   through it (enough for us):
   
   Microsoft (R) Windows (TM) Version 5.00 (Build 2195)
   Welcome to Microsoft Telnet Service
   Telnet Server Build 5.00.99201.1
   login: cisco
   password: *
   Microsoft Windows Workstation allows only 1 Telnet Client License
   Server has closed connection
   
   When they 

Re: Beautiful Day, I passed CCIE written test today

2001-01-19 Thread Almazi Rashid


Congratulations!!!
Could you guys post some of the sample questions and suggestions for CCIE 
theory.Because i am planning to have on Feb,2001.

Regards
Almazi

From: "James Haynes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Beautiful Day, I passed CCIE written test today
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:54:22 -0500

Congratulations to both of you.

""Charles Henson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  Congrats! I passed Thursday with a 78 also! I'll see you in the lab 
study
  group! Congrats again!
 
  Charles Henson
 
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   Hello Everyone,
  
   Failing the CCIE written test by one point yesterday really left a bad
   taste in my mouth. I brushed up and took the test again today. The
  question
   pool must be pretty big as I only got maybe 15 questions that were the
  same
   from yesterday. Anyway I passed the test with a mark of 75 and am
  thrilled.
   This whole ordeal has given me a better respect for certification,
   especially this test. As much as I learned in the process of getting 
to
   this point, I also realized there is that much more to learn.
  
   I am now planning on a quick pit stop to get Nortell NNCSS 
certification
  in
   routing(Any advice out there?). I then plan to obtain CCNP specialties
in
   ATM and Voice over IP while studying for the lab.
  
   Now I will have to look back in the mail archives for suggestions on
   putting together a CCIE lab and taking a 2nd mortgage on the home so I
can
   afford the equipment.
  
   I'd like to thank everyone on the group for their advice, this has 
been
  the
   best source of information for me. Time to watch some brainless
   entertainment tonight(Cough) WWF Wrestling(cough) I find it helps me
relax
   after thinking so much :)
  
   Thanks Everyone,
  
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AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread Fowler, Joey

I've been studying BGP, but something that keeps bothering me when I study
it is that there are less than 65000 , (64511 to be exact) public AS
numbers. It would seem to me that these would quickly run as out, as I would
think that there are that many corporations world-wide that connected to the
internet via BGP. Any thoughts on this?


Thanks,
Joey Fowler

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seems that intense desire creates not only its own opportunities, but its
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Re: Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)

2001-01-19 Thread Kevin Wigle

Interesting indeed, but a thought when I read the Security Spec page..

recertification, it states that to recertify that you:

"take and pass the current version of appropriate security exams." ==
plural!!

I know literally that means you need to re-take 4 exams!

CCNP only requires 640-519 - one exam but it took 6 exams to get there.

Does this make sense, that a spec requires more re-certification than the
base cert?

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:21 PM
Subject: Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)


 Some of you might find this interesting:

 You can now take the Security Specialization if you're CCNA - you don't
need
 to be a CCNP.


http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.html

 Happy Studying,

 Ole

 
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RE: Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)

2001-01-19 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Hmm, you have a point there, plus you have to recertify your spec's every 2
years, where you can wait 3 years on CCNA, CCDA, CCNP and CCDP. So if you
take the 1 exam for the CCNA or 5 exams for the CCNP, you can keep the cert
3 years, but if you add 4 exams to become CCNA/CCNP + Security, you can only
keep that 2 years, and will have to retake all 4 security.

This could be written as a program with a very simple pseudo code:

recertify   

repeat
  study
until certified

repeat until cert expired

goto recertify

The only way that this would make sense is to look at it this way. After you
have achieved your CCNA or CCNP, you have to prepare for 4 security exams,
which could take a year to get. That way, both your CCNA/CCNP and security
will be good for 2 years after you have achieved the security. That way,
they will expire at the same time. If they both would retire after 2 (or 3)
years, the CCNA/CCNP would expire before the security specialization, and
you cannot have the title NOT CCNA + Security :-)

Anyway, we can talk about this for hours, but it probably wont change
anything. You just have to make your own decision if you want to spend the
time and money on getting the extra certifications, or if you want to sit
and complain about it without the cert.

Right now, I am concentrating on getting my CCNP done. Then I can start
thinking about my next move: CCDA, CCDP, specialization(s).

Take care and have a great weekend,

Ole


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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 1:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ole Drews Jensen
Subject: Re: Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)


Interesting indeed, but a thought when I read the Security Spec page..

recertification, it states that to recertify that you:

"take and pass the current version of appropriate security exams." ==
plural!!

I know literally that means you need to re-take 4 exams!

CCNP only requires 640-519 - one exam but it took 6 exams to get there.

Does this make sense, that a spec requires more re-certification than the
base cert?

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:21 PM
Subject: Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)


 Some of you might find this interesting:

 You can now take the Security Specialization if you're CCNA - you don't
need
 to be a CCNP.


http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.html

 Happy Studying,

 Ole

 
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  Systems Network Manager
  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
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Re: [Workstation / Device Inventory]

2001-01-19 Thread Petra Hofmann

Check out Calisto Software.

Sammi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anyone recommend an application that will pull an inventory from
 individual workstations? Something that will record software
 installed, versions, hardware specs, etc.
 Preferably the polling could be done from a central location, that is;
 the application will roam the network, touch each workstation, and
 report back to one machine. 
 All workstations will be visited in any case, so if it's something
 that needs to be done individually that would be fine as well.
 I believe What's Up Gold will report all my Cisco devices, is there a
 Cisco (or other) application that will delve deeper for me?
 I am going to a new site to inventory software and hardware, as well
 as create a network map over ~8 buildings.
 Any recommendations greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread Dan West

I wouldn't think that's t much of an issue. As far
as I understand it, you only get assigned a public AS
number if you're a m_a_j_o_r provider--like PSInet,
ATT, MCI, etc...

If you're a mid-sized to smaller organization, you
probably can get by using a private AS from a larger
provider.  Can s/body confirm this?


--- "Fowler, Joey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been studying BGP, but something that keeps
 bothering me when I study
 it is that there are less than 65000 , (64511 to be
 exact) public AS
 numbers. It would seem to me that these would
 quickly run as out, as I would
 think that there are that many corporations
 world-wide that connected to the
 internet via BGP. Any thoughts on this?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Joey Fowler
 
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 opportunities. But it sometimes
 seems that intense desire creates not only its own
 opportunities, but its
 own talents.
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RE: Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)

2001-01-19 Thread Chuck Larrieu

You forgot the line about "shell out more bucks"

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ole
Drews Jensen
Sent:   Friday, January 19, 2001 11:39 AM
To: 'Kevin Wigle'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ole Drews Jensen
Subject:RE: Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)

Hmm, you have a point there, plus you have to recertify your spec's every 2
years, where you can wait 3 years on CCNA, CCDA, CCNP and CCDP. So if you
take the 1 exam for the CCNA or 5 exams for the CCNP, you can keep the cert
3 years, but if you add 4 exams to become CCNA/CCNP + Security, you can only
keep that 2 years, and will have to retake all 4 security.

This could be written as a program with a very simple pseudo code:

recertify

repeat
  study
until certified

repeat until cert expired

goto recertify

The only way that this would make sense is to look at it this way. After you
have achieved your CCNA or CCNP, you have to prepare for 4 security exams,
which could take a year to get. That way, both your CCNA/CCNP and security
will be good for 2 years after you have achieved the security. That way,
they will expire at the same time. If they both would retire after 2 (or 3)
years, the CCNA/CCNP would expire before the security specialization, and
you cannot have the title NOT CCNA + Security :-)

Anyway, we can talk about this for hours, but it probably wont change
anything. You just have to make your own decision if you want to spend the
time and money on getting the extra certifications, or if you want to sit
and complain about it without the cert.

Right now, I am concentrating on getting my CCNP done. Then I can start
thinking about my next move: CCDA, CCDP, specialization(s).

Take care and have a great weekend,

Ole


 Ole Drews Jensen
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 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 1:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ole Drews Jensen
Subject: Re: Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)


Interesting indeed, but a thought when I read the Security Spec page..

recertification, it states that to recertify that you:

"take and pass the current version of appropriate security exams." ==
plural!!

I know literally that means you need to re-take 4 exams!

CCNP only requires 640-519 - one exam but it took 6 exams to get there.

Does this make sense, that a spec requires more re-certification than the
base cert?

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:21 PM
Subject: Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)


 Some of you might find this interesting:

 You can now take the Security Specialization if you're CCNA - you don't
need
 to be a CCNP.


http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.html

 Happy Studying,

 Ole

 
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Re: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread John Neiberger

To get an ASN you have to show that you either have a unique routing policy
or that you are multihomed to separate providers.  Sure, there are lots of
companies that have multiple internet connections, but how many *really*
need to have redundant connections to separate ISPs?  Not really that many,
since there are other ways to achieve redundancy.

Now, with that said, we applied for and received an ASN a couple of months
ago and they have already issued over 300 since then.  At that rate, it
won't be too long before we run into trouble.

John

  I've been studying BGP, but something that keeps bothering me when I
study
  it is that there are less than 65000 , (64511 to be exact) public AS
  numbers. It would seem to me that these would quickly run as out, as I
would
  think that there are that many corporations world-wide that connected to
the
  internet via BGP. Any thoughts on this?
  
  
  Thanks,
  Joey Fowler
  
  We are told that talent creates its own opportunities. But it sometimes
  seems that intense desire creates not only its own opportunities, but its
  own talents.
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Question on FTP and TFTP on Routers and Switches,

2001-01-19 Thread Wonkyu Lee


Hi All,


What I want to accomplish is to download  configuration files from running
switches(from 29xx-65xx) and routers (25xx-75xx)

I got tired of logging into routers and downloading thru telneting.
Can I enable a ftp or TFTP feature for the routers and switches ?

I saw these command lines from CCO and tried to use ftp command in DOS
mode.

~
ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
ip ftp source-interface Ethernet0
ip ftp username wonkyu
ip ftp password password
tftp-server rom alias config.txt
~

here i lost,
I tried to access my router thru ftp and tftp without success.

So my  question is,

HOW CAN I Make a batch file which downloads a configuration files ?

TIA,

Wonkyu



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RE: Workstation / Device Inventory

2001-01-19 Thread Ray Mosely

There are several products, such as Microsoft's
SMS, which will do this, but not on a polling
basis.  The reports that you want need to be
generated by a WBEM client at the workstation.
SMS installs WMI, which is an MS WBEM client,
and leaves it running in the background.
Client OS can be Macintosh, Win 3.1x, Win9x,
any variation of NT, and OS/2.

To bring this back to Cisco:
SMS will poll devices such as routers, and
report their existence to the central site,
and it is SNMP aware.

Ray Mosely
CCNA, MCSE

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Sammi
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 6:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Workstation / Device Inventory


Can anyone recommend an application that will pull an inventory from
individual workstations? Something that will record software
installed, versions, hardware specs, etc.
Preferably the polling could be done from a central location, that is;
the application will roam the network, touch each workstation, and
report back to one machine.
All workstations will be visited in any case, so if it's something
that needs to be done individually that would be fine as well.
I believe What's Up Gold will report all my Cisco devices, is there a
Cisco (or other) application that will delve deeper for me?
I am going to a new site to inventory software and hardware, as well
as create a network map over ~8 buildings.
Any recommendations greatly appreciated.

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Re: Whew... I passed

2001-01-19 Thread Scott M. Trieste

Man, oh Man.

You are a CCNP/ CCDP and your not pulling 60k?  My friend, you need to stand
the hell up and get paid appropriately for your expertise.  Do you realize
that in NYC, you could take home 100k just on your certs alone.  The
thousands of Cisco Partners in this area gobble up anyone with CCNx next to
there name (provided your resume isn't empty).

Once again, feel free to flame away.  Just my humble $.02.

-Scott

""ItsMe"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 948h65$j28$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:948h65$j28$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I'm not saying I don't think you owe the company if they pay your way,
 by no means. I just saying to be aware of what you are agreeing to.

 Wow 30K to 120K, I could double my pay and not be at 120K,
 it may be time to move forward.

 Me
 ccnp+security, ccdp, mcse, mcp+i, n+, a+

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  I'm ready to get spammed for this, but here are some thoughts from the
 other
  side of management.
 
  If YOU paid for your own training, lab equipment, and lab attempts
 (probably
  multiple, at $1,000 piece) then I could see your asking for a huge
raise.
 
  HOWEVER, if the company paid for your training, bought $15,000 to
$20,000
  worth of lab equipment for you to play with, and gave you the time to
 study,
  + lab attempts, +travel expenses+ god-knows-what-else, I think you owe
  something back, and perhaps some time served at your current rate is the
  least they could expect in return.
 
  If they support you through the whole process and you either leave or
 start
  barking for the stars salary-wise, the guy next to you, who's six months
  behind you on the same career path, won't get the price of honey for his
  tea.
 
  Again, these are just my $.02
 
 
  --- Dennis
 
  -Original Message-
  From: ItsMe
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 1/18/01 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Whew... I passed
 
  Convincing the VP isn't the hard part, its after you pass explaining to
  the
  VP
  that a $20K/year raise is warranted. Which in turn he says your are
  nuts,
  so you decide to leave... until he breaks out the agreement that says in
  fine print that you have agreed to pay back all training funds it you
  leave...
  Be careful!
 
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  DF49A3EC4130D411AC1600508B608DDF01116426@DIALPAD-EX2">news:DF49A3EC4130D411AC1600508B608DDF01116426@DIALPAD-EX2...
   Well, I did it.  I passed the CCIE written exam this morning. And, for
  just
   a moment, I felt the weight of the world lift off my shoulders.  Then
  I
   thought about the lab exam and what I need to do to get there.
  Thankfully,
   I have a plan; it just needs to be put on paper so it can be a working
   document.
   I have posted much in the recent weeks about how I have studied to get
  this
   far, so I won't post it again.  But if you have specific questions
  about
   certain areas, that won't violate the NDA, I will be happy to answer
  them.
   Now, my next challenge comes along... not the lab... convincing my
  boss
  that
   the company should pay for the lab exam and any needed materials for
  getting
   there. I know that I shouldn't rely on this as the means to the end;
  but
  if
   I can get it, why not?  Anyone have any pointers on how to convince a
  VP
   that doesn't know much about the CCIE program that he should approve
  these
   things?
   Thanks for the wonderful humor and study tips!
  
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Re: [Workstation / Device Inventory]

2001-01-19 Thread Wonkyu Lee


www.blueocean.com
very good software, but expensive.


   

   

   





Check out Calisto Software.

Sammi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anyone recommend an application that will pull an inventory from
 individual workstations? Something that will record software
 installed, versions, hardware specs, etc.
 Preferably the polling could be done from a central location, that is;
 the application will roam the network, touch each workstation, and
 report back to one machine.
 All workstations will be visited in any case, so if it's something
 that needs to be done individually that would be fine as well.
 I believe What's Up Gold will report all my Cisco devices, is there a
 Cisco (or other) application that will delve deeper for me?
 I am going to a new site to inventory software and hardware, as well
 as create a network map over ~8 buildings.
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OFF TOPIC - Howard - BGP under IPv6

2001-01-19 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I did a quick read of RFC titles, but did not see anything that looked
promising

Ipv6 appears to me to have been created as a way of dealing with the IP
number shortage. Of course all related protocols and stacks will have to be
modified to work with Ipv6

For BGP - will the AS field be upped to, say, 64 bits to deal with the AS
crunch?

Or do AS's become irrelevant in v6?

Any insight you would care to share?


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Re: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread Brian Wilcox

 since there are other ways to achieve redundancy.

Please advise what "other ways" there are to achieve
redundancy for 'inbound' traffic via the Internet.

Brian


--- John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To get an ASN you have to show that you either have
 a unique routing policy
 or that you are multihomed to separate providers. 
 Sure, there are lots of
 companies that have multiple internet connections,
 but how many *really*
 need to have redundant connections to separate ISPs?
  Not really that many,
 since there are other ways to achieve redundancy.
 
 Now, with that said, we applied for and received an
 ASN a couple of months
 ago and they have already issued over 300 since
 then.  At that rate, it
 won't be too long before we run into trouble.
 
 John
 
   I've been studying BGP, but something that keeps
 bothering me when I
 study
   it is that there are less than 65000 , (64511 to
 be exact) public AS
   numbers. It would seem to me that these would
 quickly run as out, as I
 would
   think that there are that many corporations
 world-wide that connected to
 the
   internet via BGP. Any thoughts on this?
   
   
   Thanks,
   Joey Fowler
   
   We are told that talent creates its own
 opportunities. But it sometimes
   seems that intense desire creates not only its
 own opportunities, but its
   own talents.
   - Eric Hoffer (1902-1983 American Author 
 Philosopher)
   
   
   
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Re: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread John Neiberger

Inbound is a little more difficult than outbound, but I believe you can work
with your ISP to accomplish this.  You could have redundant connections to a
single ISP if you were using address space assigned from them only.  You
really wouldn't even need BGP for this, but if you wanted to use it you
could then use a private ASN.  Since you only have one ISP, it's not
necessary to advertise your specific subnet; the aggregate advertised by the
ISP would suffice.

The specific strategy used depends on how paranoid you are.  If you think
it's a realistic possibility that your entire ISP might fail, then it's a
good idea to get a connection to a different ISP and run BGP.  However, I
think many companies would be safe with redundant connections to the same
ISP, yet to different locations.

I may be wrong about this, but the above is correct as far as I understand
it.  I'm pretty new to this, so I hope someone with more experience than I
responds to this thread.

John

   since there are other ways to achieve redundancy.
  
  Please advise what "other ways" there are to achieve
  redundancy for 'inbound' traffic via the Internet.
  
  Brian
  
  
  --- John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   To get an ASN you have to show that you either have
   a unique routing policy
   or that you are multihomed to separate providers. 
   Sure, there are lots of
   companies that have multiple internet connections,
   but how many *really*
   need to have redundant connections to separate ISPs?
Not really that many,
   since there are other ways to achieve redundancy.
   
   Now, with that said, we applied for and received an
   ASN a couple of months
   ago and they have already issued over 300 since
   then.  At that rate, it
   won't be too long before we run into trouble.
   
   John
   
 I've been studying BGP, but something that keeps
   bothering me when I
   study
 it is that there are less than 65000 , (64511 to
   be exact) public AS
 numbers. It would seem to me that these would
   quickly run as out, as I
   would
 think that there are that many corporations
   world-wide that connected to
   the
 internet via BGP. Any thoughts on this?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Joey Fowler
 
 We are told that talent creates its own
   opportunities. But it sometimes
 seems that intense desire creates not only its
   own opportunities, but its
 own talents.
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   Philosopher)
 
 
 
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Exec-timeout

2001-01-19 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I'm using terminal server to get to my lab routers and every time I go back
the mandatory 10 minutes has gone by and I need to log in again.  I thought
the command to extend this time was exec-timeout (which I put on con 0), but
it doesn't seem to be changing.  What am I doing wrong?  It's not an
earth-shattering thing, just a nuisance.  Thanks...

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Re: Remote Telnet access via dial-up

2001-01-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I'm sorry I misjudged you, J. ;-) The security expert I consulted got me 
started thinking along the paranoia lines.

I am still amazed that Cisco would go against everything in their own 
security dogma and Telnet in via a backdoor, though. I agree with the 
person that said security and convenience are tradeoffs, but if you have to 
get in via a backdoor, I think you have a good idea that this customer 
considers security more important.

Well, I'll let it drop now. Some people got the message at least.

Priscilla

At 09:51 PM 1/18/01, J Roysdon wrote:
If I was a saboteur, I don't think I'd even bother with TAC, I'd just crack
the passwords and have my way, heh.  Also, 95% of my TAC calls are opened
with new router serial numbers and my CCO username given to jump me right
into talking to a TAC engineer.

Plus, you don't even need a CCO login to get to the Password Recovery pages:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/index.shtml

We were troubleshooting cas-group commands and replacing an AdTran Atlas 550
that was acting as a CSU/DSU splitting off DS0's between a frame relay
connection and trunks to a long distance carrier.  Cisco couldn't get why
the command wasn't functioning right and one of their engineers wanted to
get in and do some diagnostics.

I think Priscilla has been watching too many X-Files episodes ;-p

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""Kevin Wigle"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  I don't think its so fishy and I don't think Cisco could be faulted in any
  way.
 
  My reading is that the "guy" was working with Cisco on a problem.
 
  Therefore this "guy" must have some responsibility for the network.
 
  Cisco would have to think that this guy knows what he's doing since he has
  the wherewithal to get into the company's network and then get into
routers
  to configure them.
 
  It depends I guess on how far your conspiracy feelings go, if the "guy"
was
  bogus and had all the passwords etc, then how is Cisco to know?
 
  Doesn't TAC have to deal with a registered contact?
 
  Kevin Wigle
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, 18 January, 2001 22:51
  Subject: Re: Remote Telnet access via dial-up
 
 
   At 07:32 PM 1/18/01, Erick B. wrote:
   I don't understand how companys can have main network
   equipment (routers, etc) accessible over the internet
   with telnet (and other mgmt services) running *with*
   no passwords or filters. I see it on a regular
   occurance.
  
   That is amazing. But in this case the company had a lot of security, it
   sounds like. It was not possible to get into the routers until this guy
   opened up a backdoor and let Cisco engineers Telnet in over a dial-up
line
   connected to his PC. I can't believe Cisco engineers would thwart their
   customer's security policy in that way. I think the story sounds fishy.
  
   Priscilla
  
  
   --- Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 10:31 PM 1/17/01, J Roysdon wrote:
 Today I was a site w/o internet access, but I
 needed to get Cisco into it to
 save time relaying commands and information.  I had
 a dial-up connection out
 to my ISP, and then thought about the built-in
 Telnet server that Windows
 2000 Professional has.  I made a quick guest
 account for Cisco, and told
 them my dial-up IP, which they could connect to,
 and then once telnetted
 into my workstation, they were able to telnet out
 my NIC to the routers they
 needs to get to.  Only catch is that you can only
 have one session up
 through it (enough for us):

 Good thing! Can you imagine the issues if you had
 just opened up port 23
 for the whole world? Good grief.

 I just asked a security expert at my company about
 this scenario and he
 took a sinister view. He wondered if the story was
 broadcast in order to
 incite damange. I don't think that's the case, but
 this message did come
 from the same guy that posted photographs of his
 site for some reason. See
 the message about patch panels.

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OT: Re: Beautiful Day, I passed CCIE written test today

2001-01-19 Thread Kevin_Cullimore


You wrote:
I am now planning on a quick pit stop to get Nortell NNCSS certification in
routing(Any advice out there?).

If you take the accelar test, know the cli cold. The questions range from
too simple to ambiguously worded (and therefore hard to answer
"correctly"). The tests correlate very strongly with the coursebooks from
the nortel official curriculum (router configuration, advanced ip routing
et cetera)-i assume that that is the case for the actual course as well.
The router tests have a fair amount of ISDN/dial backup in them. When you
are on the receiving end of the letters, they send you a wooden plaque and
carry-on luggage.







Eric Gunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]@groupstudy.com on 01/18/2001 07:16:55 PM

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Hello Everyone,

Failing the CCIE written test by one point yesterday really left a bad
taste in my mouth. I brushed up and took the test again today. The question
pool must be pretty big as I only got maybe 15 questions that were the same
from yesterday. Anyway I passed the test with a mark of 75 and am thrilled.
This whole ordeal has given me a better respect for certification,
especially this test. As much as I learned in the process of getting to
this point, I also realized there is that much more to learn.

I am now planning on a quick pit stop to get Nortell NNCSS certification in
routing(Any advice out there?). I then plan to obtain CCNP specialties in
ATM and Voice over IP while studying for the lab.

Now I will have to look back in the mail archives for suggestions on
putting together a CCIE lab and taking a 2nd mortgage on the home so I can
afford the equipment.

I'd like to thank everyone on the group for their advice, this has been the
best source of information for me. Time to watch some brainless
entertainment tonight(Cough) WWF Wrestling(cough) I find it helps me relax
after thinking so much :)

Thanks Everyone,

-Eric Gunn

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Re: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread Brad Ellis

Brian,

Hi!  Funny you bring this up, I just got a phone call on it today.
Basically, you can have two seperate ISPs and have incoming redundant
connections without using BGP.  ISP1 will provide a block of IPs from a
portion of their CIDR block to the "company."  Since this is part of ISP1s
CIDR block, they already broadcast a route to the rest of the internet
containing the company's block of IPs.

ISP2 will then also broadcast a route to ISP1's block of IPs (just the
block!!!).  The tricky part comes when you try to do load balancing between
the two for incoming traffic!!!

 I am making several assumptions here (that the ISPs will play nice with
each other among other things).

Feel free and give me a call if you'd like to discuss further.
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Cisco Hardware: www.optsys.net
248-293-0091
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  "Brian Wilcox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  since there are other ways to achieve redundancy.

 Please advise what "other ways" there are to achieve
 redundancy for 'inbound' traffic via the Internet.

 Brian


 --- John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  To get an ASN you have to show that you either have
  a unique routing policy
  or that you are multihomed to separate providers.
  Sure, there are lots of
  companies that have multiple internet connections,
  but how many *really*
  need to have redundant connections to separate ISPs?
   Not really that many,
  since there are other ways to achieve redundancy.
 
  Now, with that said, we applied for and received an
  ASN a couple of months
  ago and they have already issued over 300 since
  then.  At that rate, it
  won't be too long before we run into trouble.
 
  John
 
I've been studying BGP, but something that keeps
  bothering me when I
  study
it is that there are less than 65000 , (64511 to
  be exact) public AS
numbers. It would seem to me that these would
  quickly run as out, as I
  would
think that there are that many corporations
  world-wide that connected to
  the
internet via BGP. Any thoughts on this?
  
  
Thanks,
Joey Fowler
  
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RE: Tacacs+

2001-01-19 Thread Mike Delp

I found this situation doing research on CCO.  the example shows two radius
servers then two TACACS+ servers.  look at the link for more info.


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/secur
_c/scprt1/scathen.htm
Mike


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 Are you sure you can configure 2 Tacacs+ servers. I thought
 1 Tacacs+, and/or 1 Radius and/or local?
 
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  If more than 1 tacacs server is defined in a config what 
 would happen if
 
  The user dosen't authenticate, it will NOT contact the second server
 correct?
 
  The only reason to have a second server assigned is if the 
 first one is
 not
  responding, in which case the config would allow for use of 
 the second
 server.
 
  Also Authentication must take place before anything can happen.
 
  I know I some of these questions are basic, I just want to 
 verify and see
  if I am misunderstanding something.
 
 
  Thanks,
 
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RE: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread Jim Dixon

If there is a global crisis would it not be cataloged here?
http://www.telstra.net/ops/bgptable.html

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RE: Exec-timeout

2001-01-19 Thread Stull, Cory

Dennis,

You added the line under your con0??  I'm assuming your consoling in then...
Don't forget to add the same line to your other routers that your reverse
telnetting to.


Cory


-Original Message-
From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 3:00 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Exec-timeout


I'm using terminal server to get to my lab routers and every time I go back
the mandatory 10 minutes has gone by and I need to log in again.  I thought
the command to extend this time was exec-timeout (which I put on con 0), but
it doesn't seem to be changing.  What am I doing wrong?  It's not an
earth-shattering thing, just a nuisance.  Thanks...

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Re: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

I've been studying BGP, but something that keeps bothering me when I study
it is that there are less than 65000 , (64511 to be exact) public AS
numbers. It would seem to me that these would quickly run as out, as I would
think that there are that many corporations world-wide that connected to the
internet via BGP. Any thoughts on this?


Thanks,
Joey Fowler


A valid observation that AS numbers are not an unlimited resource. 
The idea of a 32-bit number is indeed being examined in the IETF.

In general, it isn't an immediate crisis.  As of today's CIDR Report 
from Tony bates, there are 9674 AS in the global routing system. 
IIRC from September or so, there were then about twice this number 
that actually had been issued.

For enterprise multihoming when the enterprise homes to multiple POPs 
of the same upstream, private AS work quite well.  When enterprises 
multihome to two upstreams, private AS still can work with more 
administrative coordination.

The bottom line is that the number of prefixes in the table is a more 
serious problem at the moment.  This is more a convergence and 
computation problem than a memory problem.

No question, however, that the 16 bit AS space won't last forever. 
Based on current projections, though, the IPv4 address space is 
likely to exhaust first.
IPv6 is starting to become real; the 3rd generation wireless industry 
has adopted it and that is likely to be the "killer application" for 
V6.
-- 
"What Problem are you trying to solve?"
***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not 
directly to me***

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Re: Exec-timeout

2001-01-19 Thread Kevin Wigle

Dennis,

I have my term server configured as:

conf t
line con 0
exec-timeout 0 0
line vty 0 4
exec-timeout 0 0
exit

of course, this is only for a LAB, not a production router

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Laganiere" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 3:59 PM
Subject: Exec-timeout


 I'm using terminal server to get to my lab routers and every time I go
back
 the mandatory 10 minutes has gone by and I need to log in again.  I
thought
 the command to extend this time was exec-timeout (which I put on con 0),
but
 it doesn't seem to be changing.  What am I doing wrong?  It's not an
 earth-shattering thing, just a nuisance.  Thanks...

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RE: Exec-timeout

2001-01-19 Thread Dennis Laganiere

A bunch of people sent me the exec-timeout 0 0 (including Kevin).  I'm
thinking that since the reverse telnet is being run on the Terminal Server,
the router only knows I'm coming in through the console port, so I should
set it on Con0, right?  Anyway, I'm testing it now.  The hardest part is
keeping my hands off the keyboard for over 10 minutes.  Thanks all...
--- Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Wigle
To: Dennis Laganiere; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 1/19/01 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Exec-timeout

Dennis,

I have my term server configured as:

conf t
line con 0
exec-timeout 0 0
line vty 0 4
exec-timeout 0 0
exit

of course, this is only for a LAB, not a production router

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Laganiere" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 3:59 PM
Subject: Exec-timeout


 I'm using terminal server to get to my lab routers and every time I go
back
 the mandatory 10 minutes has gone by and I need to log in again.  I
thought
 the command to extend this time was exec-timeout (which I put on con
0),
but
 it doesn't seem to be changing.  What am I doing wrong?  It's not an
 earth-shattering thing, just a nuisance.  Thanks...

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Re: Seally Question!!!!

2001-01-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

NetBIOS Extended User Interface (NetBEUI) was IBM's name for the NetBIOS 
driver that implements NetBIOS on top of LLC. At the time that IBM came up 
with the name they didn't use the term "user interface" as it has come to 
be used today. The "user" in this case was an application (not a human).

They also had TokREUI by the way! That was their Token Ring driver.

NetBIOS is an API that implements sessions, naming, etc. It can run on top 
of a few different transports:

Over TCP/IP - NetBT
Over IPX - NWLink
Over LLC - NetBEUI

Priscilla

At 05:45 AM 1/19/01, John Nemeth wrote:
On Jun 11, 12:14am, Adam Hickey wrote:
}
} A little further clarification.
}
} NetBEUI is a networking protocol which uses NetBIOS at its core. Thus its
} name is an acronym for NetBIOS Extended User Interface.

  Usually I think of "core" as being the innermost or lowest layer
of something.  NetBEUI doesn't provide a user interface, it is the
lowest layer, sitting just above the hardware.  The name is a bit of a
misnomer.

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Terminal serial to host cable

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Hays

I recently connected my Cisco terminal setup (a laptop with a DB9-RJ45
adapter on Serial A) to a UNIX workstation with the gender adapters
shown in the ASCII diagram below. I was surprised that it worked llike
this because I expected a crossover of TX and RX, but when I pulled the
adapters apart and followed the wires from end-to-end it appears there
is no crossover. Pin numbers shown are those stamped on the connectors.

Laptop Workstation
   DB9-RJ45RJ45-DB25
tx 2   6 ---straight---62  tx
rx 3   3 ---through33  rx
cable

Shouldn't TX and RX cross over? Why does this work?

Sorry about the slightly off-topic post.

Jonathan

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RE: Exec-timeout

2001-01-19 Thread Barnhill, Don

Dennis,
 
Since your telnetting into the routers, you need to have the vty line with
the exec timeout as well.  You are going in through a virtual telnet session
even though you are connected to a console port (kinda like telnetting into
a router across an ethernet port).  So make sure on the target routers
that you  have the vty set with the timeout as well.
 
Don
 

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Barnhill, Don
Subject: RE: Exec-timeout



Thanks, though I'm thinking since the reverse telnet is being run on the
Terminal Server the router only knows I'm coming in through the console
port, so I should set it on Con0, right?  Anyway, I'm testing it now.
Thanks...

-   Dennis 


-Original Message- 
From: Barnhill, Don 
To: 'Dennis Laganiere' 
Sent: 1/19/01 1:22 PM 
Subject: RE: Exec-timeout 

Dennis, 

Either use no exec-timeout or exec-timeout 0 0 (which it sounds like you 
are) 

Also you are telneting (reversely) to the router, so make sure it is on 
your 
vty line. 

Don 


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Laganiere [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:00 PM 
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Subject: Exec-timeout 


I'm using terminal server to get to my lab routers and every time I go 
back 
the mandatory 10 minutes has gone by and I need to log in again.  I 
thought 
the command to extend this time was exec-timeout (which I put on con 0), 
but 
it doesn't seem to be changing.  What am I doing wrong?  It's not an 
earth-shattering thing, just a nuisance.  Thanks... 

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Re: OFF TOPIC - Howard - BGP under IPv6

2001-01-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

I did a quick read of RFC titles, but did not see anything that looked
promising

Ipv6 appears to me to have been created as a way of dealing with the IP
number shortage. Of course all related protocols and stacks will have to be
modified to work with Ipv6

For BGP - will the AS field be upped to, say, 64 bits to deal with the AS
crunch?

32 bit is under discussion on the IETF IDR mailing list, the group 
responsible for BGP. There's no draft yet as far as I know.

Or do AS's become irrelevant in v6?

No, AS will still be used.  The basic migration strategy is to define 
IPv6 as a new address family using the BGP multiprotocol extensions, 
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2858.txt


Any insight you would care to share?

Chuck

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Re: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Brian,

Hi!  Funny you bring this up, I just got a phone call on it today.
Basically, you can have two seperate ISPs and have incoming redundant
connections without using BGP.  ISP1 will provide a block of IPs from a
portion of their CIDR block to the "company."  Since this is part of ISP1s
CIDR block, they already broadcast a route to the rest of the internet
containing the company's block of IPs.



ISP2 will then also broadcast a route to ISP1's block of IPs (just the
block!!!).  The tricky part comes when you try to do load balancing between
the two for incoming traffic!!!

  I am making several assumptions here (that the ISPs will play nice with
each other among other things).

ISP1, however, MUST advertise not its aggregate alone, but both its 
aggregate and the more-specific customer block that also is 
advertised by ISP2.

Assume the following:

ISP1 has the block 192.168.0.0/16.  This is the only block it advertises.

It delegates 192.168.2.0/24 to the customer.

ISP2 advertises 192.168.2.0/24.

So in the global routing table, there will be two routes:

  192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
  192.168.2.0/24  ISP2

Since 192.16.2.0/24 is more specific than 192.168.0.0/16, the rest of 
the world will send ALL 192.168.2.0/24 traffic to ISP2.

By having ISP1 advertise both its aggregate and the more-specific, 
the routing system conceptually will contain:

  192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
  192.168.2.0/24  ISP1
  192.168.2.0/24  ISP2

Other AS will install the ISP1 route to 192.168.2.0/24 if their 
connectivity to ISP1 is better than their connectivity to ISP2, and 
vice versa.

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Books.PDF for public!

2001-01-19 Thread Magdy Ibrahim

Dear All,

After I passed my CCNA I am involved to establish FTP server and collect all
CCNA resources and put them in that server, as I want to make it easy access
to everybody on the net. I already started it and ther are some resources
there. but I really need some help to collect more materials for all CISCO
exams such as CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP ..etc.
any Advise and help will be appreciated.
Awaiting for your reply.
Regards

Magdy H. Ibrahim
CCNA, MCSE
System Administrator


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RE: Exec-timeout

2001-01-19 Thread Stull, Cory

Don,

I would have to disagree with that...  When you go from the terminal server
you are going out of an asynchronous port into the console port of another
router...  You may be telnetted into the terminal server but that is the
only actual telnet session happening.I've been wrong before (more than
most) but I'm thinkin I'm correct on this one.

Cory

-Original Message-
From: Barnhill, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:12 PM
To: 'Dennis Laganiere'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Exec-timeout


Dennis,
 
Since your telnetting into the routers, you need to have the vty line with
the exec timeout as well.  You are going in through a virtual telnet session
even though you are connected to a console port (kinda like telnetting into
a router across an ethernet port).  So make sure on the target routers
that you  have the vty set with the timeout as well.
 
Don
 

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Barnhill, Don
Subject: RE: Exec-timeout



Thanks, though I'm thinking since the reverse telnet is being run on the
Terminal Server the router only knows I'm coming in through the console
port, so I should set it on Con0, right?  Anyway, I'm testing it now.
Thanks...

-   Dennis 


-Original Message- 
From: Barnhill, Don 
To: 'Dennis Laganiere' 
Sent: 1/19/01 1:22 PM 
Subject: RE: Exec-timeout 

Dennis, 

Either use no exec-timeout or exec-timeout 0 0 (which it sounds like you 
are) 

Also you are telneting (reversely) to the router, so make sure it is on 
your 
vty line. 

Don 


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Laganiere [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:00 PM 
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Subject: Exec-timeout 


I'm using terminal server to get to my lab routers and every time I go 
back 
the mandatory 10 minutes has gone by and I need to log in again.  I 
thought 
the command to extend this time was exec-timeout (which I put on con 0), 
but 
it doesn't seem to be changing.  What am I doing wrong?  It's not an 
earth-shattering thing, just a nuisance.  Thanks... 

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CEF or round robin

2001-01-19 Thread Steve Smith

OK gang I need to opinions.

We set up 2 point-to-point Ts to a client running CEF. Everything seemed
to work fine, speed was good, packets per T was about equal. Then we had
a switch go bad. We replaced it but still had a sluggish network. Some
of our techs came in from another office and together we found the
problem.

While looking around they saw CEF per-packet was set on the 2 Ts. They
informed our CEO that was really wrong and should not be ran that way.
They said "round robin is the only real way to utilize 2 Ts". I say  #
*!

Any opinions?

Thanks in advance,
Steve

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RE: Exec-timeout

2001-01-19 Thread Barnhill, Don

Cory,

I believe your right.  I dont know what I was thinking, oh well, I do
appologize for the erroneous post.

Don


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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 3:40 PM
To: Barnhill, Don
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
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Don,

I would have to disagree with that...  When you go from the terminal server
you are going out of an asynchronous port into the console port of another
router...  You may be telnetted into the terminal server but that is the
only actual telnet session happening.I've been wrong before (more than
most) but I'm thinkin I'm correct on this one.

Cory

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To: 'Dennis Laganiere'
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Dennis,
 
Since your telnetting into the routers, you need to have the vty line with
the exec timeout as well.  You are going in through a virtual telnet session
even though you are connected to a console port (kinda like telnetting into
a router across an ethernet port).  So make sure on the target routers
that you  have the vty set with the timeout as well.
 
Don
 

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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Barnhill, Don
Subject: RE: Exec-timeout



Thanks, though I'm thinking since the reverse telnet is being run on the
Terminal Server the router only knows I'm coming in through the console
port, so I should set it on Con0, right?  Anyway, I'm testing it now.
Thanks...

-   Dennis 


-Original Message- 
From: Barnhill, Don 
To: 'Dennis Laganiere' 
Sent: 1/19/01 1:22 PM 
Subject: RE: Exec-timeout 

Dennis, 

Either use no exec-timeout or exec-timeout 0 0 (which it sounds like you 
are) 

Also you are telneting (reversely) to the router, so make sure it is on 
your 
vty line. 

Don 


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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:00 PM 
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Subject: Exec-timeout 


I'm using terminal server to get to my lab routers and every time I go 
back 
the mandatory 10 minutes has gone by and I need to log in again.  I 
thought 
the command to extend this time was exec-timeout (which I put on con 0), 
but 
it doesn't seem to be changing.  What am I doing wrong?  It's not an 
earth-shattering thing, just a nuisance.  Thanks... 

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RE: Altiga Question

2001-01-19 Thread Dave

Open a case with Cisco.

I am working with the VPN 3000 series, but not with Win2K or the PIX.  I use
the Cisco client software and it works fine.

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Manoj Ghorpade
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:06 AM
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Subject: Re: Altiga Question


Hi Group,

Does it mean that nobodys worked on Altiga / doesn't  want to share on
Altiga ?

Regards

Manoj Ghorpade
([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Manoj Ghorpade wrote:

 Hi Group,
 I'm facing problems setting up a VPN connection with Altiga and Windows
 2000 CA server. (Using L2TP)
 Can anyone advise/suggest  the correct procedure of implementing the
 solutions ?
 Componets of of my Network are :-

 1. A Cisco Router 3640
 2. A Pix Firewall 515
 3. Altiga 3000 VPN Concentrator
 4. Switch 2948G- L3
 5. Windows 2000 Advance Server.

 I run the NAT on PIX and currently have only ports 80,443,22 1352 open.

 I followed the procedures :
 "Installing Digital Certificates on Cisco VPN 3000 Concentrator" ,
 "Configuring the Cisco VPN 3000 Concentrator for Microsoft Windows 2000
 Support"  "Using a Microsoft Windows 2000 Client to Connect to  the
 Cisco VPN 3000 Concentrator"

 These all references are download from the offical Cisco Web Site.

 After doing these a protocol error
 "Error 789 : The L2TP connection attempt  failed because the security
 layer encountered a processing error during initial negotiations with
 the remote computer."
 Also from the design perspective advise me where to keep the Certificate
 Server, like should it be in the DMZ or running in the internal network
 (does it really matter ?)

 On the Alitga, in the ESP-L2TP-TRANSPORT template, what are the settings
 that should be there ?
 The error may be related to the fact, that we accidently deleted the
 transport template and re-added it .

 Also advice the on how to setup the Windows 2000 Certificate Server ?

 Regards

 Manoj Ghorpade.
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RE: CEF or round robin

2001-01-19 Thread Chuck Larrieu

So what was the problem you found that was effecting traffic negatively?

CEF does not necessarily "load share" equally across two paths.  It can be
set up to do "per source/destination" or "per packet"
Per source/destination has the usual problems - all traffic can end up going
across one link. Per packet will indeed share traffic more or less equally
across two links.

My reading indicates that CEF per packet is actually the way to go if one
wants to balance traffic equally across two paths.

( Cisco press book Network Design and Case Studies )
( BTW anyone else think this book is not all that good? )

HTH

Chuck

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Steve Smith
Sent:   Friday, January 19, 2001 2:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:CEF or round robin

OK gang I need to opinions.

We set up 2 point-to-point Ts to a client running CEF. Everything seemed
to work fine, speed was good, packets per T was about equal. Then we had
a switch go bad. We replaced it but still had a sluggish network. Some
of our techs came in from another office and together we found the
problem.

While looking around they saw CEF per-packet was set on the 2 Ts. They
informed our CEO that was really wrong and should not be ran that way.
They said "round robin is the only real way to utilize 2 Ts". I say  #
*!

Any opinions?

Thanks in advance,
Steve

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RE: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread Chuck Larrieu

By having ISP1 advertise both its aggregate and the more-specific,
the routing system conceptually will contain:

  192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
  192.168.2.0/24  ISP1
  192.168.2.0/24  ISP2

CL: And two more routes go into the global tables.  Wasn't CIDR supposed to
stop this kind of thing? ;-

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Brian,

Hi!  Funny you bring this up, I just got a phone call on it today.
Basically, you can have two seperate ISPs and have incoming redundant
connections without using BGP.  ISP1 will provide a block of IPs from a
portion of their CIDR block to the "company."  Since this is part of ISP1s
CIDR block, they already broadcast a route to the rest of the internet
containing the company's block of IPs.



ISP2 will then also broadcast a route to ISP1's block of IPs (just the
block!!!).  The tricky part comes when you try to do load balancing between
the two for incoming traffic!!!

  I am making several assumptions here (that the ISPs will play nice with
each other among other things).

ISP1, however, MUST advertise not its aggregate alone, but both its
aggregate and the more-specific customer block that also is
advertised by ISP2.

Assume the following:

ISP1 has the block 192.168.0.0/16.  This is the only block it advertises.

It delegates 192.168.2.0/24 to the customer.

ISP2 advertises 192.168.2.0/24.

So in the global routing table, there will be two routes:

  192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
  192.168.2.0/24  ISP2

Since 192.16.2.0/24 is more specific than 192.168.0.0/16, the rest of
the world will send ALL 192.168.2.0/24 traffic to ISP2.

By having ISP1 advertise both its aggregate and the more-specific,
the routing system conceptually will contain:

  192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
  192.168.2.0/24  ISP1
  192.168.2.0/24  ISP2

Other AS will install the ISP1 route to 192.168.2.0/24 if their
connectivity to ISP1 is better than their connectivity to ISP2, and
vice versa.

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Re: CEF or round robin

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Snyder

Two T1's going to the same ISP?  Why not use PPP and make one big pipe?  I
like simple answers.

Check your port/speed/duplex settings on the new switch.



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002601c0826f$f0c1fe40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:002601c0826f$f0c1fe40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 So what was the problem you found that was effecting traffic negatively?

 CEF does not necessarily "load share" equally across two paths.  It can be
 set up to do "per source/destination" or "per packet"
 Per source/destination has the usual problems - all traffic can end up
going
 across one link. Per packet will indeed share traffic more or less equally
 across two links.

 My reading indicates that CEF per packet is actually the way to go if one
 wants to balance traffic equally across two paths.

 ( Cisco press book Network Design and Case Studies )
 ( BTW anyone else think this book is not all that good? )

 HTH

 Chuck

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Steve Smith
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CEF or round robin

 OK gang I need to opinions.

 We set up 2 point-to-point Ts to a client running CEF. Everything seemed
 to work fine, speed was good, packets per T was about equal. Then we had
 a switch go bad. We replaced it but still had a sluggish network. Some
 of our techs came in from another office and together we found the
 problem.

 While looking around they saw CEF per-packet was set on the 2 Ts. They
 informed our CEO that was really wrong and should not be ran that way.
 They said "round robin is the only real way to utilize 2 Ts". I say  #
 *!

 Any opinions?

 Thanks in advance,
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bgp regular expressions

2001-01-19 Thread root

Hello,

Does anyone know how to tell the router to allow all AS's except for
Private AS's for Ingress traffic?  I know that .* tells it to allow all
paths, but how do I exclude 65xxx (Private AS's)?

I know about the keyword "remove-private-as", but this is for Egress
(outbound) traffic.  As far as I know it's for when your using
confederations and such.

Is this something I need to be concerned with?  I'm not sure if this is
something I should be spending my time on or not.   Is it necessary to
block inbound Private AS's?  Please excuse my ignorance, I'm still
learning!

Thank You,
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BGP Reg Expressions

2001-01-19 Thread root

Hello,

Does anyone know how to tell the router to allow all AS's except for
Private AS's for Ingress traffic?  I know that .* tells it to allow all
paths, but how do I exclude 65xxx (Private AS's)?

I know about the keyword "remove-private-as", but this is for Egress
(outbound) traffic.  As far as I know it's for when your using
confederations and such.

Is this something I need to be concerned with?  I'm not sure if this is
something I should be spending my time on or not.   Is it necessary to
block inbound Private AS's?  Please excuse my ignorance, I'm still
learning!

Thank You,
Andre

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RE: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

By having ISP1 advertise both its aggregate and the more-specific,
the routing system conceptually will contain:

   192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
   192.168.2.0/24  ISP1
   192.168.2.0/24  ISP2

CL: And two more routes go into the global tables.  Wasn't CIDR supposed to
stop this kind of thing? ;-

Correct.  But BGP and CIDR were not designed to optimize traffic 
flow.  This is a way to coerce them into doing it.

The significant thing about a dog walking on its hind legs is not how 
well he does it, but that he does it at all.

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Memory for 4000 series router

2001-01-19 Thread Kevin Welch

I am trying to upgrade the memory in my 4000 series router.  It looks =
like 72-pin 60ns parity, can someone confirm this?=20

-- Kevin

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