Dialer Threshold [7:24917]

2001-11-01 Thread Shane Stockman

I have a 128K leased line and would like to backup the link with ISDN.I 
would like to as well setup the ISDN so that if the leased line reaches a 
certain percentage of usage the ISDN kicks in and sorts of loads balance the 
line until it returns below the threshold.
I have a 3640 with a PRI at the cental site and 2500's at the remote sites.

I am looking for a few config examples.

Thanks

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RE: FW: PIX advanced exam [7:24478]

2001-11-01 Thread Theodore stout

I took the test today and failed.  731 but 751 necessary.

I can not believe that I failed it.  I thought I had studied everything
perfectly and with work and all

There is a secret section...I can not say it because of that stupid NDS but
that it not been for that one section I would have passed.  just on that
section I got 33%.  Of well, I can take it again on Monday.

Why is this so much the case?  Every time I take these tests I am always
like 20 or 30 points away on the first attempt.  I even took the CISSP.  Got
682 but 700 was necessary out of 1000 points and 225 questions.

Another weekend poor because all of my money is going to these tests and
lonely because all I do is study study study.  Blah!

Theo


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Weird Problem [7:24919]

2001-11-01 Thread Ramesh c

My setup as follows

I got  VLAN and my IP range is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/25 and gateway being
xxx.xxx.yyy.254/20 .I got a Win2k machine with IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.129
and am able to ping the router and other systems.

Now I plug in a Sun system with Ip address xxx.xxx.xxx.130 ,also specify
/etc/defaultrouter  xxx.xxx.yyy.254 and I am UNABLE to ping router or any
other system.But am able to ping the Win2K system.

Other hand if I put my SUN system as DHCP..I am able to get IP
address(different subnet address) and ping default router.

Since i thought subnet address might be out of range I put in another Win2k
system and assinged the xxx.xxx.xxx.130 and it works fine.

Why is the variation between WIN2K and Sun system and would appreciate any
solution?Do I need to do any thing on Sun system for it to see the default
on other subnet?

My /etc/netmask file is intact.

Cheers
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CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920]

2001-11-01 Thread Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen

Hi,

I'm looking to buy a CCIE Lab Workbook to prepare for my CCIE Lab in June
2002.
I've found the following two on the net:

- Certificationzone - IPexpert Lab Preparation Workbook 2.0
- CCBootcamp - CCIE LAB Package Subscription

Has anybody used these and which one is considered the best choice?

Regards,

Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen
CCNP, CCDP, MCSE




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BSCI prep [7:24921]

2001-11-01 Thread Shaam K. Ramphal

Hi,

Which book should I buy to prepare myself thouroghly for 640-900 BSCI?

Thank you,

Shaam




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RE: FW: PIX advanced exam [7:24478]

2001-11-01 Thread Matthew Crane

Theodore

If you want some extra pointers from a CCSI on this stuff contact me
offline, obviously we keep within the NDA, but I may be able to help.

Matthew
Theodore stout wrote:
> 
> I took the test today and failed.  731 but 751 necessary.
> 
> I can not believe that I failed it.  I thought I had studied
> everything perfectly and with work and all
> 
> There is a secret section...I can not say it because of that
> stupid NDS but that it not been for that one section I would
> have passed.  just on that section I got 33%.  Of well, I can
> take it again on Monday.
> 
> Why is this so much the case?  Every time I take these tests I
> am always like 20 or 30 points away on the first attempt.  I
> even took the CISSP.  Got 682 but 700 was necessary out of 1000
> points and 225 questions.
> 
> Another weekend poor because all of my money is going to these
> tests and lonely because all I do is study study study.  Blah!
> 
> Theo




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OT:need cisco equipments [7:24923]

2001-11-01 Thread farhan ahmed

any one wish to sale cisco equipments pls cont me with model serial no and
prices

delievery will be in united arab emirates, abudhabi

can pay via visa and escrow or through a friend in NJ usa

thnx

farhan




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native ios [7:24924]

2001-11-01 Thread Lopez, Robert

I'd like to have a few "expert" opinions regarding the use of the native ios
vs. hybrid ios.  
I've been told by a cisco engineer not to use it unless the hardware or
software feature is
ONLY supported in that code train.  The concern is that native IOS has less
field exposure and he and others consider it a work in progress.  Anyone out
there running native code on their networks?  

Robert




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RE: native ios [7:24924]

2001-11-01 Thread Chris Dumais

We are running Native IOS in our digital imaging network. We were told by
our integrator that because we were just doing basic IP routing, we would be
fine. I have been told by Cisco that there are a few bugs with the web
server portion of the code as well as the SNMP management on older versions
of Cisco Works. I like this version A LOT! I like being able to configure my
6500 without having to jump between the switch and router modules.

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RE: Written test [7:24909]

2001-11-01 Thread Wright, Jeremy

search the archives and you will find many of threads..but for a quick
rehash: Caslow, Halabi, Doyle, Boson 1-3, CCIE written book/camp by
ccbootcamp.com. This was the exact path I took and I passed with an 810
first try. There is also a little web site called cisco.com that may have a
few answers ;)

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What are some good guides for the written test, wanna buy just one book, any

idea? thanks in advance




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Re: native ios [7:24924]

2001-11-01 Thread Ged Bowey

I've tried on two occasions and it sucks, the box re-booted intermittently
and had to revert to the hybrid code.
It also has some new commands like port ranges, I guess it's just
front-ending the switch CLI

Ged Bowey

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> I'd like to have a few "expert" opinions regarding the use of the native
ios
> vs. hybrid ios.
> I've been told by a cisco engineer not to use it unless the hardware or
> software feature is
> ONLY supported in that code train.  The concern is that native IOS has
less
> field exposure and he and others consider it a work in progress.  Anyone
out
> there running native code on their networks?
>
> Robert




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Re: Dialer Threshold [7:24917]

2001-11-01 Thread Dennis

This shouls get you started...

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/index.shtml#isdn

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> I have a 128K leased line and would like to backup the link with ISDN.I
> would like to as well setup the ISDN so that if the leased line reaches a
> certain percentage of usage the ISDN kicks in and sorts of loads balance
the
> line until it returns below the threshold.
> I have a 3640 with a PRI at the cental site and 2500's at the remote
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>
> I am looking for a few config examples.
>
> Thanks
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Re: IP addressing Subnetting [7:24712]

2001-11-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Mar 23,  6:42pm, "Erick B." wrote:
}
} /31 support is in 12.2(2)T for most platforms. I tried
} it on serials and it works fine. Haven't tried it on
} LAN interfaces yet, but don't see why it wouldn't
} work. 

 I have a 2502 in my lab, running:

IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-JK8OS-L), Version 12.2(1), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)

and I just tried it on to0:  no go.  Is there a name for this feature
that we can use with Feature Navigator?

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Mike Williams frame & DLSW [7:24930]

2001-11-01 Thread Richard Botham

Mike,
I GOT IT TO WORK

DLSW using frame in direct encapsulation,no ip addresses or routes in
sight!!!

Thanks for all your suggestions.
I didn't use the local dlci but did change the llc2 mappings to point to the
dlci closest to the frame switch for each spoke router.
So if rtr1 is spoke and its local dlci is 201 and the switch dlci for rtr1
is 102 then i used:

rtr1
!
dlsw local-peer
dlsw remote-peer 0 frame-relay interface Serial0/0 201
dlsw bridge-group 1
!
interface Serial0/0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 clockrate 200
 frame-relay map llc2  201
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 duplex auto
 speed auto
 bridge-group 1

and the same thing the other end.

many thanks again for helping me.
Just hope its a question in Brussels in March


Cheers
Richard



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RE: How to find serial number of router? [7:24760]

2001-11-01 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler

Are you sure that it is reporting the same serial # that is on the chassis?
In my experience, the only way I could get the serial number remotely is by
entering the "snmp-server chassis-id" command into the config manually.

I just double-checked on a 3600, 7200 and 7500 (running various 12.x code)
and the serial number I get with show diag or show version aren't the same
as the one I entered manually (based-on physical verification).

Note:  I also did this on my IOS-based switches (cat3500's) even though the
show version command will give you this info - "System serial number: x"

Bottom-line is that when you open a case w/TAC and they ask for a serial
number of the system, they're interested in the one on the chassis not some
internal component.

Just my $0.02

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Wow, excellent tip!  However, this does not seem to work on the
2500s series.  (using 12.1(11) with a 2514).  It does work on my
2610.  (using 12.1(11)).

At 02:44 AM 10/31/01 -0800, Budi Widjojo wrote:
>you can use
>"show diag" command.
>
>or as you said, you can use cisco resource manager
>also.
>
>cheers,
>budi
>--- IT Guy  wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Can anyone here please help what are the possible
> > software ways to findout
> > the serial number of router without looking at the
> > hardware itself??
> >
> > Can we findout by using any management software like
> > Cisco resource manger
> > or etc??
> >
> > Thanks for help.
> >
> >
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Re: IP addressing Subnetting [7:24712]

2001-11-01 Thread MADMAN

Yes you can, 12.2.4T

1750># interface Loopback9
1750># ip address 111.11.1.1 255.255.255.254


  Dave

Karen Young wrote:
> 
> Currently you can't use /31 networks. However, there is an RFC that
> proposes changes that would allow their use on point-to-point links only.
> 
> RFC 3021 Using 31-Bit Prefixes on IPv4 Point-to-Point Links. A. Retana,
> R. White, V. Fuller, D. McPherson. December 2000. (Format: TXT=19771
> bytes) (Status: PROPOSED STANDARD)
> 
> Just an FYI,
> Karen
> 
> >> Original Message  Good.. but you can't have a subnet
> with 31 bits that would leave
> 2
> > "hosts" and the network address and the broadcast would use them up, so
> you
> > end up with 0 hosts per subnet.  For point-to-point serial links, you'd
> > usually use a /30 (255.255.255.252) which gives you 4 addresses per
> subnet
> > (1 network, 1 broadcast, and two hosts)
> 
> > Mike W.
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Re: 1924 Switch: Takes long time to ping device af [7:24648]

2001-11-01 Thread Reynolds KM

Hi Priscilla,
The device doing the pinging is a UNIX box connected to another switch.  I
have also tried pinging from a PC connected directly to the 1924.  The
device being pinged has been a PC, Notebook, NT Server.

I also like Micheal's advice.  I did telnet onto the switch, under the Port
Addressing Menu, I erased the MAC address (thinking that would place it in
the same state of a never used port).  After the switch port showed
"unaddressed", I tried pinging the host on that port.  The response as
instant.

Now, I am going to try this on a port thats never been used (need to arrange
this). I will then see how long the 1924 takes to learn the MAC.  I also
thought I would try this in-house once I get a brand new switch.

PS All devices are on the same IP subnet.

Thanks, I will post an update.

KM


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OT: Mentor Technologies Update (Contact Info included) [7:24934]

2001-11-01 Thread J

All,

I've been busy calling the entire state of MD and
haven't come up with much, but I thought that I would
pass along what I do have so that others who have been
effected by this may possibly get some answers.

Phone Numbers:

Annapolis Attorney General: (410) 576-7036
Bankrupcy Court: (410) 962-2688

The case number is 66148, it is a forced bankrupcy and
has been filed by Cathryn Goldman on behalf of 3
former employees.  I have left a message for Cathryn
and hope to hear back from her.  If you would like to
call her: (410)783-3550.  

In speaking with the bankrupcy court it looks like
this is a "No Asset" case.  I'm not up on legalese,
but this does not sound good.  Her advice to me was to
not even worry about filing a complaint as they have
nothing and even if they did they owe quite a bit more
than 4000 to bigger fish.



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MCNS passing mark [7:24935]

2001-11-01 Thread Richard Deal

To all,

Does anyone know the MCNS passing mark as well as the number of questions?

Thanks!!!




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RE: Mike Williams frame & DLSW [7:24930]

2001-11-01 Thread Michael Williams

YOU DA MAN!!!

I'm glad it's working for you now!

Mike W.


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RE: MCNS passing mark [7:24935]

2001-11-01 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Follow my Router Chief link below.

I think there are 60 questions.

Hth,

Ole

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To all,

Does anyone know the MCNS passing mark as well as the number of questions?

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RE: native ios [7:24924]

2001-11-01 Thread Jose Almodovar

I currently have  Version 12.1(8a)E4, running on my 6509.  I have had no
problems, except for a little bit of a headache in the intial config,
setting up the vlans, and such(the vlan has to be avtive in a database,
before using).  We opted for the native so that we can run SLB on the switch
as well, and totally remove the LD416's which were handling the load
balancing.  So far so good, no unexpected reboots, or things of the such,
pretty stable as of yet.


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BGP Confederations [7:24940]

2001-11-01 Thread McCallum, Robert

Hi,

If you have 4 routers within an confederation r1,r2,r3&r4.  R1 has and EBGP
connection to another As so therefore has the bgp confederation id and
confed peer statements on it.  My question is do all of the IBGP router
(r2,r3&r4) require the confed statements on them even if they are only IBGP
routers??

14 days to go!! Starting to have some fun !!

Robert McCallum




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Re: native ios [7:24924]

2001-11-01 Thread MADMAN

I have a 6509 in the lab running native and a couple of customers also
running native without troubles.  The bottom line is Cisco is going in
the native mode direction and my understanding is that eventually there
will be no CATOS as Cisco would rather not support both.  If your
comfortable with configuring 29xx and 35xx switches you will be
comfortable with native IOS.

  I recently beta tested a new line card that only runs in native and I
think you will only see more of this in the future.  Converting from one
mode to another is also not trivial though Cisco is working on tools to
make it easier.

 hows that for a non-answer:)

  Dave

"Lopez, Robert" wrote:
> 
> I'd like to have a few "expert" opinions regarding the use of the native
ios
> vs. hybrid ios.
> I've been told by a cisco engineer not to use it unless the hardware or
> software feature is
> ONLY supported in that code train.  The concern is that native IOS has less
> field exposure and he and others consider it a work in progress.  Anyone
out
> there running native code on their networks?
> 
> Robert
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RE: How to find serial number of router? [7:24760]

2001-11-01 Thread Carroll Kong

I think you are right.  After I posted my message, I tried to hand 
verify it, but, I honestly do not know which is the serial number.  There 
are so many stickers tags and numbers!  On top of that, I NEVER found the 
same serial number on the chassis as the motherboard part even after 
looking through all of those tags.  I think you are right and that the 
serial number is JUST for the internal parts.  The serial number needed to 
service is probably the chassis serial number which of course, is not 
available inside the box or so it seems.

At 09:16 AM 11/1/01 -0500, R. Benjamin Kessler wrote:
>Are you sure that it is reporting the same serial # that is on the chassis?
>In my experience, the only way I could get the serial number remotely is by
>entering the "snmp-server chassis-id" command into the config manually.
>
>I just double-checked on a 3600, 7200 and 7500 (running various 12.x code)
>and the serial number I get with show diag or show version aren't the same
>as the one I entered manually (based-on physical verification).
>
>Note:  I also did this on my IOS-based switches (cat3500's) even though the
>show version command will give you this info - "System serial number: x"
>
>Bottom-line is that when you open a case w/TAC and they ask for a serial
>number of the system, they're interested in the one on the chassis not some
>internal component.
>
>Just my $0.02
>
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>Subject: Re: How to find serial number of router? [7:24760]
>
>
>Wow, excellent tip!  However, this does not seem to work on the
>2500s series.  (using 12.1(11) with a 2514).  It does work on my
>2610.  (using 12.1(11)).
>
>At 02:44 AM 10/31/01 -0800, Budi Widjojo wrote:
> >you can use
> >"show diag" command.
> >
> >or as you said, you can use cisco resource manager
> >also.
> >
> >cheers,
> >budi
> >--- IT Guy  wrote:
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > Can anyone here please help what are the possible
> > > software ways to findout
> > > the serial number of router without looking at the
> > > hardware itself??
> > >
> > > Can we findout by using any management software like
> > > Cisco resource manger
> > > or etc??
> > >
> > > Thanks for help.
> > >
> > >
> >_
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Re: How to find serial number of router? [7:24760]

2001-11-01 Thread MADMAN

Yes your correct, sh diag gives you the serial number of the modules
not the chassis:

C3640B#sh diag
Slot 0:
Fast-ethernet Port adapter, 1 port
Port adapter is analyzed
Port adapter insertion time unknown
EEPROM contents at hardware discovery:
Hardware revision 1.0   Board revision B0
Serial number 6244832   Part number800-02042-03
Test history  0x0   RMA number 00-00-00
EEPROM format version 1
EEPROM contents (hex):
  0x20: 01 44 01 00 00 5F 49 E0 50 07 FA 03 00 00 00 00
  0x30: 58 00 00 00 97 11 20 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

Slot 1:
Sync/Async Port adapter, 4 ports
Port adapter is analyzed
Port adapter insertion time unknown
EEPROM contents at hardware discovery:
Hardware revision 1.0   Board revision A0
Serial number 8839667   Part number800-01224-02
Test history  0x0   RMA number 00-00-00
EEPROM format version 1
EEPROM contents (hex):
  0x20: 01 24 01 00 00 86 E1 F3 50 04 C8 02 00 00 00 00
  0x30: 50 00 00 00 98 05 22 17 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

Slot 2:
Digital Modems Port adapter, 24 ports
Port adapter is analyzed
Port adapter insertion time unknown
EEPROM contents at hardware discovery:
Hardware revision 2.0   Board revision A0
Serial number 6227869   Part number800-02316-02
Test history  0x0   RMA number 00-00-00
EEPROM format version 1
EEPROM contents (hex):
  0x20: 01 67 02 00 00 5F 07 9D 50 09 0C 02 00 00 00 00
  0x30: 50 00 00 00 97 11 05 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

C3640B#

"R. Benjamin Kessler" wrote:
> 
> Are you sure that it is reporting the same serial # that is on the chassis?
> In my experience, the only way I could get the serial number remotely is by
> entering the "snmp-server chassis-id" command into the config manually.
> 
> I just double-checked on a 3600, 7200 and 7500 (running various 12.x code)
> and the serial number I get with show diag or show version aren't the same
> as the one I entered manually (based-on physical verification).
> 
> Note:  I also did this on my IOS-based switches (cat3500's) even though the
> show version command will give you this info - "System serial number:
x"
> 
> Bottom-line is that when you open a case w/TAC and they ask for a serial
> number of the system, they're interested in the one on the chassis not some
> internal component.
> 
> Just my $0.02
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Carroll Kong
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 5:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: How to find serial number of router? [7:24760]
> 
> Wow, excellent tip!  However, this does not seem to work on the
> 2500s series.  (using 12.1(11) with a 2514).  It does work on my
> 2610.  (using 12.1(11)).
> 
> At 02:44 AM 10/31/01 -0800, Budi Widjojo wrote:
> >you can use
> >"show diag" command.
> >
> >or as you said, you can use cisco resource manager
> >also.
> >
> >cheers,
> >budi
> >--- IT Guy  wrote:
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > Can anyone here please help what are the possible
> > > software ways to findout
> > > the serial number of router without looking at the
> > > hardware itself??
> > >
> > > Can we findout by using any management software like
> > > Cisco resource manger
> > > or etc??
> > >
> > > Thanks for help.
> > >
> > >
> >_
> > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
> > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >__
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> 
> -Carroll Kong
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Re: BGP Confederations [7:24944]

2001-11-01 Thread Sijbren Beukenkamp

Yes,
you have to configure all routers within your confederation  with you 
confederation id.

Met vriendelijke groet/ Kind regards,
Sijbren

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Networking & Connectivity 
Services
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Hi,

If you have 4 routers within an confederation r1,r2,r3&r4.  R1 has and 
EBGP connection to another As so therefore has the bgp confederation id 
and confed peer statements on it.  My question is do all of the IBGP 
router (r2,r3&r4) require the confed statements on them even if they are 
only IBGP
routers??

14 days to go!! Starting to have some fun !!

Robert McCallum




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Re: BGP Confederations [7:24940]

2001-11-01 Thread Henry D.

If you think about it, in the config you specify bgp process
as confed id, which means if you need to peer over IBGP
you actually peer with confed ID and not the real AS number.
So, yes you do need confed id specified on each BGP in confed cluster.

""McCallum, Robert""  wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> If you have 4 routers within an confederation r1,r2,r3&r4.  R1 has and
EBGP
> connection to another As so therefore has the bgp confederation id and
> confed peer statements on it.  My question is do all of the IBGP router
> (r2,r3&r4) require the confed statements on them even if they are only
IBGP
> routers??
>
> 14 days to go!! Starting to have some fun !!
>
> Robert McCallum




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Re: Second opinion on Regular Expression [7:24460]

2001-11-01 Thread John Neiberger

In all of the examples I mentioned I could have included output from our
router to show what I was seeing but I didn't in the interest of
brevity.  Perhaps the particular show command I was using is a little
looser in its matching than other elements of IOS would be.

Also, I think we're using different definitions for the word
'originated'.  I use it to differentiate between routes truly
originating from a system and routes passing through a transit AS.  In
our situation AS1239 is one of our providers.

In the case of ^1239 .*  you mention that it matches only routes
originated in AS1239, but this is not the case, at least with the show
command.  ^1239$ will do this, but the previous expression seems to
match a string beginning with 1239 followed by a space and then 0 or
more characters, which is as you stated.  That means that expression
should match the path 1239, but it will also match 1239 5234 5234 701
20, for example.  

Actually, in my testing (again, with only the IOS show command) ^1239
.* would match any transit routes but would not match a path that
contained only AS1239, or ^1239$.  It thought that was interesting and
it wasn't what I expected to see.  Who knows, it may be a feature, but
IOS appears to count that space as a literal space, and since there is
no space following ^1239$ it isn't matched.

Here is some example output:

Router>sho ip bgp regex ^1239 .*
BGP table version is 8192316, local router ID is 207.109.56.162
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i -
internal
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete

   Network  Next HopMetric LocPrf Weight Path
*> 12.1.83.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 5696
14787 14787 14787 i
*> 12.2.6.0/24  160.81.116.1   0 1239 11101
11101 i
*> 12.2.7.0/24  160.81.116.1   0 1239 11101
11101 i
*> 12.3.33.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 17033
i
*> 12.3.59.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 4513
17304 i
*> 12.3.194.0/24160.81.116.1   0 1239 6347
i
*> 12.4.96.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 14452
i
*> 12.4.96.0/23 160.81.116.1   0 1239 14452
i
*> 12.4.97.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 14452
i
*> 12.5.39.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 4323
16707 i
*> 12.6.121.0/24160.81.116.1   0 1239 16727
16727 16727 16727 i
*> 12.6.124.0/24160.81.116.1   0 1239 16727
16727 16727 16727 i
*> 12.6.125.0/24160.81.116.1   0 1239 16727
16727 16727 16727 i
*> 12.6.171.0/24160.81.116.1   0 1239 6347
10851 i

Notice that there are no routes with only AS1239 in the path.  Now,
look at this one:

Router>sho ip bgp regex ^1239_.*
BGP table version is 8192359, local router ID is 207.109.56.162
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i -
internal
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete

   Network  Next HopMetric LocPrf Weight Path
*> 12.1.83.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 5696
14787 14787 14787 i
*> 12.2.6.0/24  160.81.116.1   0 1239 11101
11101 i
*> 12.2.7.0/24  160.81.116.1   0 1239 11101
11101 i
*> 12.3.33.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 17033
i
*> 12.3.59.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 4513
17304 i
*> 12.3.194.0/24160.81.116.1   0 1239 6347
i
*> 12.4.96.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 14452
i
*> 12.4.96.0/23 160.81.116.1   0 1239 14452
i
*> 12.4.97.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 14452
i
*> 12.4.125.0/24160.81.116.1   0 1239 i
*> 12.5.39.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 4323
16707 i
*> 12.6.92.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 i
*> 12.6.121.0/24160.81.116.1   0 1239 16727
16727 16727 16727 i
*> 12.6.124.0/24160.81.116.1   0 1239 16727
16727 16727 16727 i
*> 12.6.125.0/24160.81.116.1   0 1239 16727
16727 16727 16727 i

Notice that this output does include some AS1239-only paths.  It
appears that IOS treats a space in the expression as a literal space but
the underscore can match any character including $.

Now, let's try ^1239_.+

Router>sho ip bgp regex ^1239_.+
BGP table version is 8193137, local router ID is 207.109.56.162
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i -
internal
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete

   Network  Next HopMetric LocPrf Weight Path
*> 12.1.83.0/24 160.81.116.1   0 1239 5696
14787 14787 14787 i
*> 12.2.6.0/24  160.81.116.1   

IOS on MSFC [7:24947]

2001-11-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings,

What's the most stable IOS version to run on 6509 MSFC board.

Thanks,

Nabil




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Re: BGP Confederations [7:24940]

2001-11-01 Thread Henry D.

Disregard my last post, I got it all messed up..
In confed cluster you peer over IBGP using a different
AS than the confed ID, or real AS number.

""Henry D.""  wrote in message
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> If you think about it, in the config you specify bgp process
> as confed id, which means if you need to peer over IBGP
> you actually peer with confed ID and not the real AS number.
> So, yes you do need confed id specified on each BGP in confed cluster.
>
> ""McCallum, Robert""  wrote in message
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> > Hi,
> >
> > If you have 4 routers within an confederation r1,r2,r3&r4.  R1 has and
> EBGP
> > connection to another As so therefore has the bgp confederation id and
> > confed peer statements on it.  My question is do all of the IBGP router
> > (r2,r3&r4) require the confed statements on them even if they are only
> IBGP
> > routers??
> >
> > 14 days to go!! Starting to have some fun !!
> >
> > Robert McCallum




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DNS [7:24949]

2001-11-01 Thread Ashraf Wagih

Hi All,
how can i let the Access Server 5300/5400 assing a DNS
to the dial up users?

regards


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RE: Mentor Technologies... Bankrupt? [7:23274]

2001-11-01 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Mike - if you filed for bankruptcy, does that mean anyone can come and take
your car or house?  No.  Same applies for labs.  They're the property of
Mentor Technologies, and would be sold off just as any other asset would in
order to pay off the company's debts.


  -- Leigh Anne

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>
>
> Hmmm..  if they go bankrupt, does that mean we could collect the labs as
> "public domain"?  Not being a lawyer, I could not begin to guess
> but it's an
> interesting thought. They did have nice labs to work on the equipment.
>
> MikeS




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RE: BGP Confederations [7:24953]

2001-11-01 Thread McCallum, Robert

I have just configured the scenario below on my lab and it appears that the
internal BGP peers do not need to know the Confed id or peers.  If I look at
the bgp table all the correct routing info is getting passed i.e. an
internal bgp router still sees in its bgp routing table that networks have
came from certain confeds i.e. as path = (8) (7) 254 23.  I believe now that
you only have to configure confed and peers only on the borders.

correct me if I am wrong here.

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Subject: Re: BGP Confederations


Yes,
you have to configure all routers within your confederation  with you 
confederation id.

Met vriendelijke groet/ Kind regards,
Sijbren

Ing. Sijbren Beukenkamp IBM Global Services
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Services
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Hi,

If you have 4 routers within an confederation r1,r2,r3&r4.  R1 has and 
EBGP connection to another As so therefore has the bgp confederation id 
and confed peer statements on it.  My question is do all of the IBGP 
router (r2,r3&r4) require the confed statements on them even if they are 
only IBGP
routers??

14 days to go!! Starting to have some fun !!

Robert McCallum




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C2500 DRAM problem [7:24954]

2001-11-01 Thread Johan Hjalmarsson

I've got some problem with a couple of 16MB DRAM modules for my C2500
routers. I bought non Cisco memories for my lab routers, but I get Parity
Error alot and the router just reboots. I also bought non Cisco flash
modules, but these seems to work just fine.

Is there some way to run a verbose check on the memory so that I can sort
out if the problem is the router or the memory?

I'd also appretiate if someone could point out what's so special with these
DRAM memories since Cisco wants so many bucks for them.


Thanks in advance,
Johan



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Re: IOS on MSFC [7:24947]

2001-11-01 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Is this a trick question?

stable? heh...all cisco's code is stableas long as you are only running
one protocol per vlan(ok I'm bitter...sue me)

The best thing to do would be to go to the software d/l page and read the
change/bug fix log and see what they have fixed and broke in the latest
release.  If the stuff that's currently broke is something you don't need,
throw it on there!

-Patrick

>>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  11/01/01 11:11AM >>>
Greetings,

What's the most stable IOS version to run on 6509 MSFC board.

Thanks,

Nabil




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No auto-summary [7:24956]

2001-11-01 Thread Hunt Lee

Can anyone please give me a hand on this?

For EIGRP, I read on the BSCN book (by Cisco Press) that the command "no
auto-summary" is used for turning off the automatic summarization of EIGRP
at classful boundaries.  But it also states that this command is useful for
discontiguous networks - what is discontiguous network?

Another question I have is:  I know what is a router, a switch or a hub.
However, what is a multiplexer?

Thanks again.

Best Regards,
Hunt




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RE: DNS [7:24949]

2001-11-01 Thread Scott Riley

The following line in global config mode should help:

  async-bootp dns-server 10.10.10.1 10.10.10.2

Alternatively you could pass the details to them via RADIUS.

  Cisco-AVPair = "ip:dns-servers=10.10.10.1 10.10.10.2"


Scott Riley
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Hi All,
how can i let the Access Server 5300/5400 assing a DNS
to the dial up users?

regards


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RE: Mentor Technologies... Bankrupt? [7:23274]

2001-11-01 Thread William Harrison

I think the question for all of us to ask is why?  As I was not on the
inside of Mentor Labs, I would appreciate an informed opinion.

Thanks
Bill Harrison
Trainer

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Anne Chisholm
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Mike - if you filed for bankruptcy, does that mean anyone can come and take
your car or house?  No.  Same applies for labs.  They're the property of
Mentor Technologies, and would be sold off just as any other asset would in
order to pay off the company's debts.


  -- Leigh Anne

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Mentor Technologies... Bankrupt? [7:23274]
>
>
> Hmmm..  if they go bankrupt, does that mean we could collect the labs as
> "public domain"?  Not being a lawyer, I could not begin to guess
> but it's an
> interesting thought. They did have nice labs to work on the equipment.
>
> MikeS




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Prioritizing Protocols???? [7:24959]

2001-11-01 Thread Andy Davidson

We have a network with one 2522 and 10 1601 routers set up in a hub and
spoke arrangement. Our connections are relatively small 56k Frame Relay.
My question is. Is there a way to give certain applications a higher
priority to the bandwidth available and have the other apps use what ever is
left over.

Our main application runs a telnet session back to a unix box here at the
main location. There are usually about 3-4 people at the remote location.
Whenever anyone sends a large print job, does a large FTP, or is browsing
the web it makes everyone else's telnet session at the remote site VERY
SLOW. Since the telnet session is priority #1 for our business, I would like
it very much if I could make my routers understand that.


Any ideas

Thanks in advance for your replies!!!

Andy




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RE: C2500 DRAM problem [7:24954]

2001-11-01 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Not being an expert in memory testing, but I know that you can control-break
the router during startup and do a T M (test memory).

Try and see...

Hth,

Ole

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From: Johan Hjalmarsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: C2500 DRAM problem [7:24954]


I've got some problem with a couple of 16MB DRAM modules for my C2500
routers. I bought non Cisco memories for my lab routers, but I get Parity
Error alot and the router just reboots. I also bought non Cisco flash
modules, but these seems to work just fine.

Is there some way to run a verbose check on the memory so that I can sort
out if the problem is the router or the memory?

I'd also appretiate if someone could point out what's so special with these
DRAM memories since Cisco wants so many bucks for them.


Thanks in advance,
Johan




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Re: No auto-summary [7:24956]

2001-11-01 Thread Patrick Ramsey

discontiguous networks are the same as discontiguous space on a hard
drive

Think of it as used space that does not coincide with the data beside it...

so, with that in mind, 12345678910 is contiguous. 1649103257 is not

10.10.1
10.10.2
10.10.3
10.10.4these are contiguous

10.10.1
192.168.1
10.40.48
10.90   these are not

and a multiplexer is a device that creates one channel for data to flow
through from a group of smaller channels...These are commonly used to mux
t's together to create say a 3 meg pipe to the internet or a 6meg pipe, etc...

Imagine satcom newsfeeds coming into a station at 9600baud.  You could have
8 channels running at 1200baud muxed into one circuit, sent through the
airways, then demuxed out to 8 channels.

hth,

-Patrick

>>> "Hunt Lee"  11/01/01 11:55AM >>>
Can anyone please give me a hand on this?

For EIGRP, I read on the BSCN book (by Cisco Press) that the command "no
auto-summary" is used for turning off the automatic summarization of EIGRP
at classful boundaries.  But it also states that this command is useful for
discontiguous networks - what is discontiguous network?

Another question I have is:  I know what is a router, a switch or a hub.
However, what is a multiplexer?

Thanks again.

Best Regards,
Hunt




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Re: IOS on MSFC [7:24947]

2001-11-01 Thread MADMAN

Running 12.1.8aE4 on several MSFCII's successfully,  As always read
the release note and check the caveats against your network.

  Dave

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> Greetings,
> 
> What's the most stable IOS version to run on 6509 MSFC board.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nabil
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Re: No auto-summary [7:24956]

2001-11-01 Thread MADMAN

Discontiguous, when you seperate a network with another network

172.16.1/24--192.168.1/30---172.16.2/24

 Muxing, combining multiple channels into a single channel.

  IMHO Cisco has auto summary wrong.  It should be off by default for I
have only seen it do it to ya not for ya.  Without proper planning no
auto summary is your friend.

  Dave

Hunt Lee wrote:
> 
> Can anyone please give me a hand on this?
> 
> For EIGRP, I read on the BSCN book (by Cisco Press) that the command "no
> auto-summary" is used for turning off the automatic summarization of EIGRP
> at classful boundaries.  But it also states that this command is useful for
> discontiguous networks - what is discontiguous network?
> 
> Another question I have is:  I know what is a router, a switch or a hub.
> However, what is a multiplexer?
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Hunt
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Re: Prioritizing Protocols???? [7:24959]

2001-11-01 Thread MADMAN

priority queing.  Keep in mind priority queing will drown out lower
priority traffic in deferance to the higher priority traffic period, it
doesn't like to share.

  dave

Andy Davidson wrote:
> 
> We have a network with one 2522 and 10 1601 routers set up in a hub and
> spoke arrangement. Our connections are relatively small 56k Frame Relay.
> My question is. Is there a way to give certain applications a higher
> priority to the bandwidth available and have the other apps use what ever
is
> left over.
> 
> Our main application runs a telnet session back to a unix box here at the
> main location. There are usually about 3-4 people at the remote location.
> Whenever anyone sends a large print job, does a large FTP, or is browsing
> the web it makes everyone else's telnet session at the remote site VERY
> SLOW. Since the telnet session is priority #1 for our business, I would
like
> it very much if I could make my routers understand that.
> 
> Any ideas
> 
> Thanks in advance for your replies!!!
> 
> Andy
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Re: Prioritizing Protocols???? [7:24959]

2001-11-01 Thread John Neiberger

I'm not sure of the capabilities on those 1601s but I think you have at
least two options:  Priority Queueing and Custom Queueing.  Can those
things do Weighted Fair Queueing?  If so, they already should be doing
an okay job with this.

Can the 1601s do policy routing?  If so, you could create a route-map
that sets the IP precedence of your telnet traffic higher.  Then it will
get more bandwidth when it hits the WFQ.  If you can't do that, I'd try
custom queueing.  If you're *really* serious about your telnet traffic
getting absolute priority over anything else no matter what then you
might also try priority queueing.

For configuration examples just look on www.cisco.com.   If you need
help with the configs just let us know.

HTH,
John

>>> "Andy Davidson"  11/1/01 10:15:42 AM
>>>
We have a network with one 2522 and 10 1601 routers set up in a hub
and
spoke arrangement. Our connections are relatively small 56k Frame
Relay.
My question is. Is there a way to give certain applications a higher
priority to the bandwidth available and have the other apps use what
ever is
left over.

Our main application runs a telnet session back to a unix box here at
the
main location. There are usually about 3-4 people at the remote
location.
Whenever anyone sends a large print job, does a large FTP, or is
browsing
the web it makes everyone else's telnet session at the remote site
VERY
SLOW. Since the telnet session is priority #1 for our business, I would
like
it very much if I could make my routers understand that.


Any ideas

Thanks in advance for your replies!!!

Andy




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PIX 501 ios question [7:24966]

2001-11-01 Thread sam sneed

hello ,

 I wanted to know if the IOS on PIX 501 is the same as the higher models.
The product description on Cisco's site do not specify it.I want to learn
PIX and 501 is the cheapest but I want to know if the commands I learn and
experience i gain will be good enough to setup and administer a higher model
of PIX. I have good firewalling experience but none with PIX.
 thanks

sam sneed




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RE: Collisions on a Serial Line [7:24601]

2001-11-01 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 11:24 PM 10/30/01, Albert Y. Pak wrote:
> [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ]
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>
>True, I wasn't reading the question right. I was thinking about if the WAN
>link was crack down.

What does "crack down" mean? I've never heard of that.

>In that case, I believe there will be a collisions on a
>serial link...

The question comes up rather often because it's on a certain test or 
practice tests for a certain test. It's sort of a trick question to catch 
people who have never though about why "show int" has a collision counter 
(the programmers used a template). Collisions are for CSMA networks. The 
question is meant to catch people who are clueless or who over-think
questions.

>Albert
>
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>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 1:15 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Collisions on a Serial Line [7:24601]
>
>
>Whether a protocol is reliable or not has nothing to do with collisions.
>Collisions have to do with media access control at the data-link layer.
>
>Ethernet is not reliable. It's best effort. The only problem it monitors is
>collisions, (if you're using half-duplex).
>
>Cisco's HDLC is not reliable. That's not relevant as far as to whether it
>has collisions, however. What is relevant is its media access control,
>which is very simple because there's nothing else sharing its transmit
>circuit, so it can send whenever it wants. It's used on point-to-point
>circuits.
>
>X.25 is a network-layer protocol so it is not relevant to a question that
>is asking about a media-access control function.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 10:57 PM 10/29/01, Albert Y. Pak wrote:
> >That's depending on the WAN side what technology you are using. If you are
> >using Frame Relay or HDLC between the WAN side via serial link, there will
> >be no collision. Since Frame Relay and HDLC are connection-oriented but
not
> >reliable. All the re-transmission are done by between 2 hosts of each
> >opposite end. In case of using X.25, there will be a collision since X.25
>is
> >connection-oriented and reliable. 2 routers between the serial line will
do
> >all the re-transmission. So there will be a collision.
> >HTH
> >Albert
> >
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> >Dave Luancing
> >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:03 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Collisions on a Serial Line [7:24601]
> >
> >
> >Is it possible to have collisions on a serial line ??
> >if so, what causes this?
> >
> >- D.L.
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Re: FTP Server [7:24525]

2001-11-01 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Thanks for carrying it through. It's very helpful.

And to reiterate what you said in your first message, this one (for passive 
mode when the 192.3.10.10 server is on the local network) is risky because 
it has to be non-specific:

access-list 110 permit tcp any gt 1023 host 192.3.10.10 gt 1023

So maybe it's best to tell the users not to use passive mode. But then they 
better not have personal firewalls that don't allow the session setup from 
the server! I have actually run into situations where there were so many 
firewalls (network-wide and personal) that we couldn't use FTP. We used AFP 
over TCP instead. (which by the way is much more secure for another reason, 
which is that it encrypts a random number provided by the server with the 
password. FTP sends the password in clear text.)

Anyway, thanks again.

Priscilla

At 12:49 AM 11/1/01, Jonathan Hays wrote:
>Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>
> > From a book that I am working on. The figures would help, but you'll have
> > to buy the book for that! ;-)
>
>
>
>Thanks. Good info! And a good reminder for people like me who have been
>working on
>non-Cisco projects and are getting rusty on our access list skills.  8-)
>
>For closure (often synonymous with "getting the last word"   ) I will work
>through
>the typical FTP access list entries in light of Priscilla's excellent
>description.
>Experienced folks will probably be bored reading this and I tend to be
>repetitive for
>the sake of beginners (but I welcome comments of any type from anyone).
>
>Recall that our scenario involves giving Internet users access to the FTP
>server sitting
>on our LAN. Let's assume the access list will be applied with "access-group
>in"  to the
>router's WAN connection, say serial 0.
>
>Let's start with the Active mode case.
>
>Referring to Priscilla's description, in step 1 the FTP conversation is
>initiated from
>the Internet client using an ephemeral source port (greater than 1023) to
>the FTP server
>(192.3.10.10) listening on port 21 (destination port). Since we need to
>allow that first
>TCP SYN to come through we cannot use the "established" keyword. The "any"
>in our access
>list is for the Internet client and "192.3.10.10" is the FTP server. The
>first access
>list entry is
>
>access-list 110 permit tcp any gt 1023 host 192.3.10.10 eq 21
>
>Now for the ftp data connection. In step 4 the client sends the PORT command
>to the FTP
>server along with the ephemeral port number to be used for the FTP data
>(port 20)
>connection. In step 5 the FTP server on the LAN initiates the TCP connection
>(SYN) to
>the Internet-based client. This initial packet will not need an access list
>entry since
>there is no access list on packets going _out_ serial 0, only for those
>coming in.
>However, we must let the client SYN ACK response through (and other port 20
>packets from
>the Internet). At this point, the client's packets will obviously have the
>ACK (or RST)
>bit set and will use source port gt 1023, destination port 20. The necessary
>access list
>entry is
>
>access-list 110 permit tcp any gt 1023 host 192.3.10.10 eq 20 established
>
>In the case of Passive mode, the client initiates the data connection so we
>can't use
>the "established" keyword, as I mistakenly did in a previous post. In
>passive mode step
>4 the Internet client issues the PASV command and the server supplies an
>ephemeral port
>to initiate the connection. To let this packet into serial 0 on our router
>the access
>list entry is
>
>access-list 110 permit tcp any gt 1023 host 192.3.10.10 gt 1023
>
>-
>Let's look at the reverse scenario, which is also very common. Suppose we
>were trying to
>allow FTP access from clients on an internal network (say 192.3.10.0/24) to
>FTP servers
>outside on the Internet. Let's keep our focus on the packets coming in and
>use the same
>"access-group in" on serial 0 as before. In this case "any" refers to the
>responding
>Internet FTP servers and "192.3.10.0  0.0.0.255" refers to the initiating
>FTP clients on
>our LAN. The access lists would look like this
>
>access-list 110 permit tcp any  eq 21 192.3.10.0 0.0.0.255 gt 1023
>established
>access-list 110 permit tcp any  eq 20 192.3.10.0 0.0.0.255 gt 1023
>access-list 110 permit tcp any gt 1023 192.3.10.0 0.0.0.255  gt 1023
>established
>
>Compared to the previous scenario, notice that the source and destination
>haven't
>changed (athough I changed "host 192.3.10.10" to "192.3.10.0  0.0.0.255")
>but the ports
>are swapped between source and destination in each access list. Also, the
>lack of or
>existence of the "established" keyword is reversed.
>
>In the first list entry the client on the LAN has initiated the connection
>and we need
>to allow FTP control (port 21) packets from Internet FTP servers through if
>they have
>the ACK or RST bit set. The second entry allows the FTP server to initiate a
>data
>connection (source port 20) to the client's ephemeral port on the LAN, so we
>drop the
>"established" keyword. For the th

Resetting password on Cat5XXX [7:24969]

2001-11-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings,

Anyone know how to break into a cat5500 with tacacs configuration?
Switch is not connected to the network.

Thanks.Nabil




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Equipment from a cosulting gig I need to sell... [7:24971]

2001-11-01 Thread Moe Tavakoli

I have lots of equipment which a company paid me
with The list includes:

Cisco 2621s
Cisco 6506s
Cisco PIX 525s
Cisco 7206s
Buncha SX gig-mods and misc card and stuff for items
listed above...

I need to sell these (though I don't want to give them
away!)

I any one is interested, let me know which and I can
give you the specs.

Moe.

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RE: native ios [7:24924]

2001-11-01 Thread Lopez, Robert

Thanks to all for the responses...

I've completed the first conversion from hybrid to native on one of six cat
6509's. Five more to go.  I'll let you know how it turns out.  Thanks again.

Robert

ps. the "switch console" command is sweet

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I have a 6509 in the lab running native and a couple of customers also
running native without troubles.  The bottom line is Cisco is going in
the native mode direction and my understanding is that eventually there
will be no CATOS as Cisco would rather not support both.  If your
comfortable with configuring 29xx and 35xx switches you will be
comfortable with native IOS.

  I recently beta tested a new line card that only runs in native and I
think you will only see more of this in the future.  Converting from one
mode to another is also not trivial though Cisco is working on tools to
make it easier.

 hows that for a non-answer:)

  Dave

"Lopez, Robert" wrote:
> 
> I'd like to have a few "expert" opinions regarding the use of the native
ios
> vs. hybrid ios.
> I've been told by a cisco engineer not to use it unless the hardware or
> software feature is
> ONLY supported in that code train.  The concern is that native IOS has
less
> field exposure and he and others consider it a work in progress.  Anyone
out
> there running native code on their networks?
> 
> Robert
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telco looping [7:24972]

2001-11-01 Thread Jay Creasy

When troubleshooting a typical T1 with telco and they say they have
your CSU looped. Are they actually able to give the CSU inside the Cisco
Router a command to be looped or are they really just looping the
smart-jack/demark ? I've been on the phone with telco and seen that when
they claim to have the CSU\DSU looped, what they are actually doing is
looping the smart-jack/demark, which will loop all traffic from the csu
back on itself.


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RE: telco looping [7:24972]

2001-11-01 Thread Michael Williams

Most of my experience with this is using external CSUs.  However, from my
understanding, they telco gives some "magic" command that is like a
universal signal to CSUs to put them in loop mode.  But they can indeed loop
the CSU separately from the SmartJack as there have been many times where
I've worked with the telco to solve wiring problems inside of a building
(between the smartjack and the CSU).

Mike W.


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Re: Prioritizing Protocols???? [7:24959]

2001-11-01 Thread Michael Williams

I agree with the other posters here.  Let us know what those 1601 support. 
Priority queuing with work, but Weighted-Fair (which should, as the other
poster said, handle this already) is the best choice for this. 
Weighted-Fair is setup in a way the high bandwidth traffic doesn't choke
small bandwidth applications (like Telnet).  Otherwise Priority or Custom
queueing are your only other options. (AFAIK)

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RE: Resetting password on Cat5XXX [7:24969]

2001-11-01 Thread Michael Williams

I know on the routers, when setting up the AAA, you should put "enable" at
the end of the line that sets up the TACACS, in case you lose your network
connectivity or the like.

aaa authentication login default tacacs+ enable

That way when TACACS isn't available it will rollover to the enable password
for access.

Otherwise you may have to do a password recovery

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/

Mike W.


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RE: IOS on MSFC [7:24947]

2001-11-01 Thread Michael Williams

(Get ready for the flames!!!  =)

Of course, the Native IOS in any version is the most stable. hehe



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restricting snmp [7:24976]

2001-11-01 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Guys/Gals,

Is there a simple way to restrict snmp access to just one host?  Or must an
acl be applied?

And if an acl has to be used, how do you go about doing it in catos? (6509)

-Patrick




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RE: BSCI prep [7:24921]

2001-11-01 Thread Michael Williams

I used the BSCN book (for CCNP) then used the Doyle TCP/IP Routing Volume 1
book for it's IS-IS chapter.  However, I don't believe Doyle's book covered
IS-IS as well as the exam requires (or it could have been me not reading it
thoroughly enough).  Either way, I passed, so I can't complain.

Good Luck!

Mike W.


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RE: Weird Problem [7:24919]

2001-11-01 Thread Michael Williams

> I got  VLAN and my IP range is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/25 and gateway
> being xxx.xxx.yyy.254/20 .I got a Win2k machine with IP address
> xxx.xxx.xxx.129 and am able to ping the router and other systems.


I don't have a good reason for your issue, but I have to ask:  Why does your
gateway have a different subnet mask (/20) than your workstations (/25)?




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Re: Trunking VLANs from Router to switch - Wheres [7:24887]

2001-11-01 Thread Michael Williams

(In an Elvis voice)...  Thank you.. Thank you very much!

=)

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RE: telco looping [7:24972]

2001-11-01 Thread Lupi, Guy

Yes, the telco can loop the CSU in a Cisco, sounds like you just had a tech
that didn't know what they were doing.  I get that all the time, someone
thinks they are running right to the CSU but they are in fact running to the
smartjack.

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When troubleshooting a typical T1 with telco and they say they have
your CSU looped. Are they actually able to give the CSU inside the Cisco
Router a command to be looped or are they really just looping the
smart-jack/demark ? I've been on the phone with telco and seen that when
they claim to have the CSU\DSU looped, what they are actually doing is
looping the smart-jack/demark, which will loop all traffic from the csu
back on itself.


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RE: PIX 501 ios question [7:24966]

2001-11-01 Thread Keyur Shah

Sam,

I haven't logged onto 501 yet. But my guess is it is similar to 506, which I
have worked on, and should support same CLI. It supports 3DES as well. It
does support 6.x ios I believe. It definitely looks like a good entry level
PIX product. I heard that is around $600. I think it is great for learning
and implementing in small office.

Just my 2c.

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hello ,

 I wanted to know if the IOS on PIX 501 is the same as the higher models.
The product description on Cisco's site do not specify it.I want to learn
PIX and 501 is the cheapest but I want to know if the commands I learn and
experience i gain will be good enough to setup and administer a higher model
of PIX. I have good firewalling experience but none with PIX.  thanks

sam sneed




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Re: Dial up and Leased Lines Solution [7:21660]

2001-11-01 Thread Hehdili Nizar

Hi ,
- about dial up connections It depends on your requirements and protocols
used , because you can use E1 PRI or T1 PRI modules or E1 channalized with
miC R2 it could be possible to be supported on ASxxx by connecting 50 E1
channalised cards in multiple AS5xxx
- about leased lines , you need a design based on three levels :
the core layer
the distribution layer
and acces layer

it is not a good design to connect directly all the mleased lines to one
equipement if you make a drawing it could be betteer

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Cisco Users Group in LA tonight [7:24984]

2001-11-01 Thread BC

Anyone going?

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Re: Prioritizing Protocols???? [7:24959]

2001-11-01 Thread Andy Davidson

Thanks for the quick replies everyone!!!

It does look like weighted fair is set up on the 1601's. I will attach a log
file from my telnet session. So I guess that the priority or custom is the
way I want to go.

You were right about a ton of info on the Cisco sight. Looks like I've got
some reading to do.

Thanks again for your help everyone!!!

Andy


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> spoke arrangement. Our connections are relatively small 56k Frame Relay.
> My question is. Is there a way to give certain applications a higher
> priority to the bandwidth available and have the other apps use what ever
is
> left over.
>
> Our main application runs a telnet session back to a unix box here at the
> main location. There are usually about 3-4 people at the remote location.
> Whenever anyone sends a large print job, does a large FTP, or is browsing
> the web it makes everyone else's telnet session at the remote site VERY
> SLOW. Since the telnet session is priority #1 for our business, I would
like
> it very much if I could make my routers understand that.
>
>
> Any ideas
>
> Thanks in advance for your replies!!!
>
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Switching issues [7:24986]

2001-11-01 Thread DAGENHARDT Frank

Group,
 
I have several ports on my 4003 switches that get frequent
%PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP and %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP errors. The ports that are
flapping all have workstations attached to them, but I don't see any
difference between these workstations and any others. Anybody have any
clues? Do I need to give more info?
 
Thanks,
 
Frank




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RE: Cisco Users Group in LA tonight [7:24984]

2001-11-01 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I don't know... Where is it?

--- Dennis

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Anyone going?

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Re: PIX 501 ios question [7:24966]

2001-11-01 Thread Jonathan Hays

sam sneed wrote:

> hello ,
>
>  I wanted to know if the IOS on PIX 501 is the same as the higher models.
> The product description on Cisco's site do not specify it.I want to learn
> PIX and 501 is the cheapest but I want to know if the commands I learn and
> experience i gain will be good enough to setup and administer a higher
model
> of PIX. I have good firewalling experience but none with PIX.
>  thanks
>
> sam sneed
Here's the product data sheet.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/fw/sqfw500/prodlit/px501_ds.htm




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Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920]

2001-11-01 Thread Francisco deAmorim

Hey Pieter,

You have the same certs as I do. Where do you live? and how many years of
experience do you have? I'm curious 'cause I'm having a hard time landing a
decent job and need some comparison. I'm working on my CCIE as well.

As for the question you posted I did the same posting and didn't get any
opinions on the IPexpert Lab from Certificationzone. On CCIE I know said it
was a good book but I still don't know if it's worth the $400 price tag.


Thanks







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> I'm looking to buy a CCIE Lab Workbook to prepare for my CCIE Lab in June
> 2002.
> I've found the following two on the net:
>
> - Certificationzone - IPexpert Lab Preparation Workbook 2.0
> - CCBootcamp - CCIE LAB Package Subscription
>
> Has anybody used these and which one is considered the best choice?
>
> Regards,
>
> Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen
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RE: telco looping [7:24972]

2001-11-01 Thread Walker, Lori A, SOBUS

Jay,  The telco can loop your CSU/DSU either internal or external.  They can
only loop the CSU portion of your CSU/DSU.  Their is a loop up command for
the CSU and another command for the NIE (for 56K/64K circuits)/NIU(for full
T1's) or smart jack whichever you prefer.  

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Subject: telco looping [7:24972]


When troubleshooting a typical T1 with telco and they say they have
your CSU looped. Are they actually able to give the CSU inside the Cisco
Router a command to be looped or are they really just looping the
smart-jack/demark ? I've been on the phone with telco and seen that when
they claim to have the CSU\DSU looped, what they are actually doing is
looping the smart-jack/demark, which will loop all traffic from the csu
back on itself.


Jay 




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Study Group in Wellington New Zealand [7:24993]

2001-11-01 Thread Tribavan Raina

Hi

Anybody in Wellington NZ for CCIE prep..

Let us get together

Tribavan Raina
Network Consultant

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Level 31 Grand Plimmer Tower
2-6 Gilmer Terrace
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Wellington

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sh int error log [7:24915]

2001-11-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Interesting bandwidth figure for an ethernet.
I assume you are not *really* running a 1 Mbps ethernet?  I believe the
bandwidth parameter on an ethernet port defaults to 1 Kbps (maybe in
some IOS versions it needs to be configured manually?), so this has
presumably been configured to 1024 Kbps for some reason.  This is unlikely
to cause problems directly (it won't change the "real" speed of the port),
but depending on your setup it could cause routing problems.  And it is
very likely to cause confusion on the part of anyone looking at the output
- a txload of 234/255 on an ethernet is truly bad, if accurate, but a five
minute output rate of 94 bps is not a problem.  If your real bandwidth
is 10 Mbps then your real txload is 23/255 which is not such a big deal.

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 02/11/2001 08:42 am -
   

   
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hi all,

any can detect any errors in this show interface
results :

I am thinking that the only problem is the collisions'
part , any inputs will be greatly appreciated

Ethernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is AmdP2, address is 0030.949d.2440 (bia
0030.949d.2440)
  Internet address is 
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1024 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 234/255, rxload
103/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set, keepalive set
(10 sec)
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang
never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:37:02
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 2/75, 0
drops
  5 minute input rate 415000 bits/sec, 550 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 94 bits/sec, 564
packets/sec
 1177252 packets input, 109281256 bytes, 0 no
buffer
 Received 8226 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0
throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0
ignored, 0 abort
 0 input packets with dribble condition detected
 1171610 packets output, 254515655 bytes, 0
underruns
 0 output errors, 52310 collisions, 0 interface
resets
 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 26250 deferred
 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers
swapped out



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Re: Cisco Users Group in LA tonight [7:24984]

2001-11-01 Thread BC

InfoNet in El Segundo I think
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>
> --- Dennis
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Re: PIX 501 ios question [7:24966]

2001-11-01 Thread sam sneed

I've already read that. It didn't answer my question though.


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> sam sneed wrote:
>
> > hello ,
> >
> >  I wanted to know if the IOS on PIX 501 is the same as the higher
models.
> > The product description on Cisco's site do not specify it.I want to
learn
> > PIX and 501 is the cheapest but I want to know if the commands I learn
and
> > experience i gain will be good enough to setup and administer a higher
> model
> > of PIX. I have good firewalling experience but none with PIX.
> >  thanks
> >
> > sam sneed
> Here's the product data sheet.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/fw/sqfw500/prodlit/px501_ds.htm




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Re: Switching issues [7:24986]

2001-11-01 Thread MADMAN

These are messages you will see anytime a connected device powers off,
resets or disconnects from the switch.  I wouldn't be shocked if there
are flaky NIC's or other issues that may cause these though.

  Dave

DAGENHARDT Frank wrote:
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have several ports on my 4003 switches that get frequent
> %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP and %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP errors. The ports that are
> flapping all have workstations attached to them, but I don't see any
> difference between these workstations and any others. Anybody have any
> clues? Do I need to give more info?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Frank
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Re: PIX 501 ios question [7:24966]

2001-11-01 Thread Carroll Kong

I do not know the answer either, and plan on picking one up to 
train with.  However, here is some info that seems to imply that it does 
use the standard Cisco Pix Command Line Interface.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/fw.htm

 Note how it says minimum software version 6.1(1).  As for, will it 
help you for higher level Pixes, yes it should.  However, one key feature 
that is not available on the 501 and 506 is there is not fail 
over.  Configuring failover and stateful failover is not really difficult, 
but it is something totally new if you just trained from a 501, 506, or 
lone 515.

At 05:26 PM 11/1/01 -0500, sam sneed wrote:
>I've already read that. It didn't answer my question though.
>
>
>""Jonathan Hays""  wrote in message
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> > sam sneed wrote:
> >
> > > hello ,
> > >
> > >  I wanted to know if the IOS on PIX 501 is the same as the higher
>models.
> > > The product description on Cisco's site do not specify it.I want to
>learn
> > > PIX and 501 is the cheapest but I want to know if the commands I learn
>and
> > > experience i gain will be good enough to setup and administer a higher
> > model
> > > of PIX. I have good firewalling experience but none with PIX.
> > >  thanks
> > >
> > > sam sneed
> > Here's the product data sheet.
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/fw/sqfw500/prodlit/px501_ds.htm
-Carroll Kong




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RE: PIX 501 ios question [7:24966]

2001-11-01 Thread Elijah Savage

I was informed today by our Cisco rep that it is the exact same stuff
and more than enough to pass the pix exam, but he did state it was
missing a few of the higher end commands he is suppose to provide a list
to me and I will post them here and on my website
www.digitalrage.org

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I've already read that. It didn't answer my question though.


""Jonathan Hays""  wrote in message
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> sam sneed wrote:
>
> > hello ,
> >
> >  I wanted to know if the IOS on PIX 501 is the same as the higher
models.
> > The product description on Cisco's site do not specify it.I want to
learn
> > PIX and 501 is the cheapest but I want to know if the commands I
learn
and
> > experience i gain will be good enough to setup and administer a
higher
> model
> > of PIX. I have good firewalling experience but none with PIX.
> >  thanks
> >
> > sam sneed
> Here's the product data sheet.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/fw/sqfw500/prodlit/px501_ds.htm




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RE: IOS on MSFC [7:24947]

2001-11-01 Thread Elijah Savage

Our 6509 just a last week came with 12.8(1)E and we were real skeptical
of it because it was early release but has been running fine but only in
a test environment for now. I will let you know if we decide to stick
with it. What was wierd is both msfc came with 2 different versions on
them and Cisco swares to us both are stable I forget what the other
version was.

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Greetings,

What's the most stable IOS version to run on 6509 MSFC board.

Thanks,

Nabil




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Re: Cisco Users Group in LA [7:25003]

2001-11-01 Thread Justin C

Group,

I have searched for a Cisco Users Group in the LA/Orange areas online, but 
have yet to find anything.  This thread leads me to believe that there is 
one.  How would one go about joining?

Regards,

Justin Cluer


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InfoNet in El Segundo I think
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Re: How to find serial number of router? [7:24765]

2001-11-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

show diag will give you serial numbers for the internal cards only. the 
only way to get the one for the case is to look on the outside. this has 
been vrfyed from cisco tac many times with us. 

Thanks
Jason

 On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Debbie 
Westall wrote:

> I know of no way to get the serial number from the
> router without looking at the box itself. If you are
> running a SNMP program once you have that number you
> can go in and manually enter the serial number, so
> from then on you can have the number.
> 
> The serial number that is reflected when  you do a
> show version is the serial number of the motherboard
> inside the router NOT the serial number of the router.
> 
> This has been discussed before, you can search the
> archives of groupstudy for the results.
> 
> Debbie Westall
> 
> --- Symon Thurlow  wrote:
> > sh ver usually does it
> > 
> > Use a MIB browser via SNMP and you will probably
> > find it.
> > 
> > Symon
> > 
> > ---
> > > Hi Guys,
> > > 
> > > Can anyone here please help what are the possible
> > software ways to
> > findout 
> > > the serial number of router without looking at the
> > hardware itself??
> > > 
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Re: New York Study Group [7:23580]

2001-11-01 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

We have one already..
Just send me ya contact info we will get together..

-Kevin



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> > >
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Re: Cisco Users Group in LA [7:25003]

2001-11-01 Thread BC


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>
> I have searched for a Cisco Users Group in the LA/Orange areas online, but
> have yet to find anything.  This thread leads me to believe that there is
> one.  How would one go about joining?
>
> Regards,
>
> Justin Cluer
>
>
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> InfoNet in El Segundo I think
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Access-list question [7:25008]

2001-11-01 Thread Timothy Ouellette

Hey guys/gals,

After doing a simple mentorlabs vlab, I just wanted to make sure that I
didn't miss anything on my access-list config.  The router names/places
have been masked to protect the innocent.  Does my ACL do exactly the
same job as theirs but with more lines (hey, who needs efficiency
*grin*)

Tim


Theirs:
access-list 101 deny icmp any any echo log
access-list 101 permit icmp any any echo-reply log
access-list 101 permit tcp host 10.1.1.2 any eq telnet log
access-list 101 permit tcp any eq telnet any established log
access-list 101 permit udp any any eq rip log
access-list 101 deny ip any any log


Mine:
access-list 101 permit icmp any host 10.1.1.1 echo-reply
access-list 101 permit icmp any host 10.1.2.1 echo-reply
access-list 101 deny   icmp any host 10.1.1.1 log
access-list 101 deny   icmp any host 10.1.2.1 log
access-list 101 deny   icmp any 10.14.0.0 0.0.255.255 log
access-list 101 permit icmp any any
access-list 101 permit tcp host 10.1.1.2 any eq telnet log
access-list 101 permit tcp any eq telnet any established log
access-list 101 permit udp any any eq rip




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RE: Cisco Users Group in LA [7:25003]

2001-11-01 Thread Dennis Laganiere

If you find it, let me know too...  Thanks...

--- Dennis

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Group,

I have searched for a Cisco Users Group in the LA/Orange areas online, but 
have yet to find anything.  This thread leads me to believe that there is 
one.  How would one go about joining?

Regards,

Justin Cluer


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HELP:HELP---FRAME RELAY SWITCHING ON ISDN [7:25010]

2001-11-01 Thread Adarsh Singh

Hi  Everybody,

I am facing a  problem in swicthing a dlci on cisco router  on bri port . 
The scenario  is like this

---serial0(DLCI 100) ---router -bri 0/0 --(DLCI 120)

The lmi type is q933a, but the lmi  exchange is not taking plce on bri 0/0 ,
pls do let me know what could be the reason . LMI on serial is sending but
not on bri 0/0.

Command used are :

frame-relay swicthing ( in global)

connect one serial 0 100 bri 0/0 120.
IOS ver -12.1(2)T

Rgds
Adarsh 

PS : debug frame-relay lmi  tells me LMI time out takin place   & broadcast
dequeue.





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Re: OSPF across PIX [7:24608]

2001-11-01 Thread Someone

The best way to tackle this, without a doubt, is roll a GRE tunnel. There's
tons of documentation on this.

-B
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> In pix, your acl's are based on tcp/udp/icmp these all are protocols,
> like ospf is it's own protocol... since ospf (protocol 89) is separate,
> opening up a port dealing with tcp/udp/icmp would be completely useless.
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> -Patrick
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> Does anybody has any ideas on how to run OSPF across
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> Any thought on this will be greatly appriciated.
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Re: Pretty complex BGP load balancing scenarios [7:24628]

2001-11-01 Thread suaveguru

thanks for your input, if I really wish to offload
outgoing traffic which method would be appropriate?



regards,
suaveguru
--- Chris White  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, suaveguru wrote:
> 
> > What if contacting the provider to announce the
> more
> > specific /24 is not an option and also getting an
> AS#,
> > will buying a transmit carrier from the satellite
> > provider solve this problem?
> 
> Not unless you need to offload outgoing traffic...If
> you had
> IP's from both upstreams you could assign them in
> such a way
> as to distribute the traffic. NAT is also a
> possibility depending
> on the end station requirements.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > thanks for your input anyway 
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > suaveguru
> > --- Chris White  wrote:
> > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, suaveguru wrote:
> > > 
> > > > situation goes this way 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> R1Receive-Only---R2-Terrestrial
> > > gw
> > > >   |
> > > >   |
> > > >   Transmit-Only 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > Problem :
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > customer has only one block of Class C Address
> and
> > > > when I advertise the whole class C over the
> > > satellite
> > > > link it does off-load the terrestrial link for
> the
> > > > return path but this time the satellite link
> get
> > > > congested . I could not do a AS-PATH prepend
> as
> > > they
> > > > are using Private-As and the provider is
> stripping
> > > > private-as at their end
> > > > 
> > > > My question is how can I solve this problem of
> > > > load-balancing by introducing as shown in the
> > > diagram
> > > > another satellite link from the same provider
> with
> > > > only a transmit path ?
> > > 
> > > Correct me if I am wrong but it sounds like the
> > > customers Class C was
> > > assigned by the terrestrial provider. If so the
> most
> > > likely problem is
> > > that the Class C is being aggregated by the
> > > terrestrial provider into
> > > a larger block. The satellite provider on the
> other
> > > hand is announcing
> > > the more specific /24.
> > > 
> > > terrestrial provider /19
> > >>  Global BGP table
> > > satellite provider   /24
> > > 
> > > Since the more specific route would be preferred
> > > most traffic would
> > > prefer the satellite link. There are a couple of
> > > ways you could address
> > > this. One would be to ask the terrestrial
> provider
> > > to announce the more
> > > specific /24 as well. This would probably help
> but
> > > you would still not
> > > have any control over the traffic...The other
> option
> > > would be to get
> > > an AS# and run BGP with both providers.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > appreicate your inputs 
> > > > 
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Re: Equipment from a cosulting gig I need to sell... [7:24971]

2001-11-01 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

Moe,

Can you send me a price for the 2621/PIX525/7206's.  While you're at it,
send me pricing it all.


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Re: Access-list question [7:25008]

2001-11-01 Thread EA Louie

What were the requirements for the access-list?  did you run through it with
a few samples?  the kinds of samples that I use to test access-lists are:

1.  the target network and hosts to be specfically permitted/denied
2.  networks and hosts 'close' to the target networks (especially if there's
a range involved)
3.  other networks and hosts with the same classful prefix
4.  repeat the above 3 for protocol types

flow and order in ACL's are always very important, and I've learned that
there are many different ways to skin the same cat, but there are also ways
that *look* correct but contain other holes or restrictions that make the
ACL incorrect.  The most recent example is the "permit even networks" thread
that has been going around.

PS - I'll check it when you give me the access-list requirements

-e-

- Original Message -
From: "Timothy Ouellette" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:25 PM
Subject: Access-list question [7:25008]


> Hey guys/gals,
>
> After doing a simple mentorlabs vlab, I just wanted to make sure that I
> didn't miss anything on my access-list config.  The router names/places
> have been masked to protect the innocent.  Does my ACL do exactly the
> same job as theirs but with more lines (hey, who needs efficiency
> *grin*)
>
> Tim
>
>
> Theirs:
> access-list 101 deny icmp any any echo log
> access-list 101 permit icmp any any echo-reply log
> access-list 101 permit tcp host 10.1.1.2 any eq telnet log
> access-list 101 permit tcp any eq telnet any established log
> access-list 101 permit udp any any eq rip log
> access-list 101 deny ip any any log
>
>
> Mine:
> access-list 101 permit icmp any host 10.1.1.1 echo-reply
> access-list 101 permit icmp any host 10.1.2.1 echo-reply
> access-list 101 deny   icmp any host 10.1.1.1 log
> access-list 101 deny   icmp any host 10.1.2.1 log
> access-list 101 deny   icmp any 10.14.0.0 0.0.255.255 log
> access-list 101 permit icmp any any
> access-list 101 permit tcp host 10.1.1.2 any eq telnet log
> access-list 101 permit tcp any eq telnet any established log
> access-list 101 permit udp any any eq rip
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RE: Switching issues [7:24986]

2001-11-01 Thread Michael Williams

Sounds to me like they're rebooting or something.  We get that all the time
on our switches when PCs/servers reboot.   It just means they're "leaving"
and "joining" your STP.

Mike W.


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Re: Prioritizing Protocols???? [7:24959]

2001-11-01 Thread Michael Williams

Unfortunately, if you have WFQ setup, that should be the best solution for
your situation.  So you can try Custom/Priority...

Oh well

Mike W.


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RE: Collisions on a Serial Line [7:24601]

2001-11-01 Thread Walker, Lori A, SOBUS

I agree that collision cannot happen on a serial interface.  I read some
where not quite sure where might have been caslow, but if you do increment
collisions on a serial interface you are looking at a software problem.
Hope this helps.
Lori
CCNP

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AFAIK, collisions on a serial interface cannot happen.  Perhaps, I'm wrong,
but as Brian said, collisions are a side effect of half-duplex transmissions
where the two ends try to transmit at the same time.  I can't think of any
other specification besides ethernet where collisions can happen.

Mike W.




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RE: OT: Mentor Technologies Update (Contact Info inclu [7:24934]

2001-11-01 Thread Mike Sweeney

And yet, the website is still up and running...  hopefully nobody will get
sucked in until they get it shutdown.


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RE: PIX 501 ios question [7:24966]

2001-11-01 Thread Keyur Shah

You are right. Desktop models of firewalls do not support failover feature
for obvious reason.

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I do not know the answer either, and plan on picking one up to 
train with.  However, here is some info that seems to imply that it does 
use the standard Cisco Pix Command Line Interface.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/fw.htm

 Note how it says minimum software version 6.1(1).  As for, will it 
help you for higher level Pixes, yes it should.  However, one key feature 
that is not available on the 501 and 506 is there is not fail 
over.  Configuring failover and stateful failover is not really difficult, 
but it is something totally new if you just trained from a 501, 506, or 
lone 515.

At 05:26 PM 11/1/01 -0500, sam sneed wrote:
>I've already read that. It didn't answer my question though.
>
>
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> >
> > > hello ,
> > >
> > >  I wanted to know if the IOS on PIX 501 is the same as the higher
>models.
> > > The product description on Cisco's site do not specify it.I want 
> > > to
>learn
> > > PIX and 501 is the cheapest but I want to know if the commands I 
> > > learn
>and
> > > experience i gain will be good enough to setup and administer a 
> > > higher
> > model
> > > of PIX. I have good firewalling experience but none with PIX.  
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > sam sneed
> > Here's the product data sheet.
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/fw/sqfw500/prodlit/px501_ds.h
> > tm
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1720 VPN setup [7:25022]

2001-11-01 Thread Dave Shine

I have a 1720 router with the VPN/firewall software
installed. Does any one have a sample config to setup
the router to allow users to VPN in from home? All I
can find on Cisco's site is how to create a branch to
branch tunnel.

It would be appreciated.

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Re: Prioritizing Protocols???? [7:24959]

2001-11-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I accidentally deleted the original post - ah well.
We have a similar problem here - which we are hoping to solve by moving the
unix box to where the users are :-)
However I assume you have users at the central site who are using it as
well.

I suspect that your overall proportion of telnet traffic is probably pretty
low, so you could probably implement priority queueing to give your telnet
traffic absolute priority with very little risk of locking out other
traffic.
However, it could just be that telnet packets are getting queued behind
large ftp packets and getting hit by a large latency - priority queueing
won't cause a telnet packet to preempt a large packet already on the wire
(which is probably just as well).
If priority queueing doesn't fix the problem, perhaps you should look at
some of the QoS techniques used to minimise latency for voice?  For
example, frame relay fragmentation?

JMcL (attempting to put into practice - even if vicariously - a voice
course done recently ;-)


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I agree with the other posters here.  Let us know what those 1601 support.
Priority queuing with work, but Weighted-Fair (which should, as the other
poster said, handle this already) is the best choice for this.
Weighted-Fair is setup in a way the high bandwidth traffic doesn't choke
small bandwidth applications (like Telnet).  Otherwise Priority or Custom
queueing are your only other options. (AFAIK)

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ccie security advice [7:25024]

2001-11-01 Thread ron conry

can someone advise me on whether to go to ccie security route or to ccie
routing and switching route? i am hearing that ccie security lab already has
waiting list till jan/feb 2002.

are there any practice labs available for ccie security?

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RE: 1720 VPN setup [7:25022]

2001-11-01 Thread Keyur Shah

What will your users be using? Vpn client 3 or cisco secure client 1.1 or
win2k vpn client?

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From: Dave Shine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 7:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 1720 VPN setup [7:25022]


I have a 1720 router with the VPN/firewall software
installed. Does any one have a sample config to setup
the router to allow users to VPN in from home? All I
can find on Cisco's site is how to create a branch to
branch tunnel.

It would be appreciated.

- D.S

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Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920]

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I am completely biased (since I am one of the owner's of NLI), but I do know
of over 150 CCIE's that have used the ccbootcamp labs to get their CCIE...I
havent heard of one CCIE yet that has used the other labs to get their #.
:)

Also, the bootcamp labs are constantly being updated and added on to.  In
fact, we are in the process of modifying all of our old labs by removing the
obsolete technology and changing them to a 1-day format (which means we give
you pre-config files with IP addresses, not a real big deal there).

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Network Learning Inc
www.ccbootcamp.com

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> Hi,
>
> I'm looking to buy a CCIE Lab Workbook to prepare for my CCIE Lab in June
> 2002.
> I've found the following two on the net:
>
> - Certificationzone - IPexpert Lab Preparation Workbook 2.0
> - CCBootcamp - CCIE LAB Package Subscription
>
> Has anybody used these and which one is considered the best choice?
>
> Regards,
>
> Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen
> CCNP, CCDP, MCSE




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