[CTRL] PBS: What a load of . . . .
-Caveat Lector- Having just watched the frontline modified limited hang-out PROPAGANDA piece, I now understand my dad and his comments during a NBC white paper about Vietnam and his telling me how what they we telling wasn't true. The "official" line told with some good graphics, but was nothing but pablum to feed the masses. seems to be leading towards some failed drug war hoohaw and laying groundwork for continued involvement in Columbia. Hogwash City. MHO Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Egalitarianism
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?control=520month=25title=Egalitarianism%3 A+A+Revolt+Against+Natureid=25 }}Begin Egalitarianism: A Revolt Against Nature The libertarian scholarly movement was in its infancy in 1974 when Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature first appeared. This treatise of applied libertarian political and economic theory, by Murray N. Rothbard, shaped a generation of intellectuals that went on to work within the radical vision of political and economic liberty he championed. This new intellectual force looked beyond the trappings of conventional left-right thinking, and hence laid the groundwork for the current intellectual revolt against the centralized social and economic management of the welfare-warfare state. And yet the influence of this volume was all out of proportion to its circulation; because of limited outlets and means, its print run was limited. Today, the book is very difficult to find; people who own a copy report that the original bindings are crumbling. At last, then, the Mises Institute has brought this brilliant work back into print, reset in an edition of outstanding quality, with a new introduction by David Gordon, along with the old introduction by Roy A. Childs, Jr., as well as an additional essay not included in the original. The book's title comes from the lead essay, which argues that egalitarian theory always results in a politics of statist control because it is founded on revolt against the ontological structure of reality itself. It is an attempt to replace what exists with a Romantic image of an idealized primitive state of nature, an ideal which cannot and should not be achieved. The implications of this point are worked out on topics such as market economics, child rights, environmentalism, feminism, foreign policy, redistribution-and a host of other issue that are driving public debate today. All told, this volume collects some of the most sparkling examples of scholarship and polemics to ever appear within the libertarian tradition. Contents Introduction to the Second Edition (David Gordon) Introduction to the First Edition by (Murray N. Rothbard) Foreword to the 1974 Edition (R.A. Childs, Jr.) Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature Left and Right: The Prospects for Liberty The Anatomy of the State Justice and Property Rights War, Peace, and the State The Fallacy of the Public Sector Kid Lib The Great Women's Liberation Issue: Setting it Straight Conservation in the Free Market The Meaning of Revolution National Liberation Anarcho-Communism The Spooner-Tucker Doctrine: An Economist's View Ludwig von Mises and the Paradigm for Our Age Why Be Libertarian? Freedom, Inequality, Primitivism, and the Division of Labor Index Foreword by R.A. Childs, Jr. Historians and anthologists of anarchist thought, in comparing the great libertarian classics with other schools of political philosophy, have always been eager to mention the fact that no anarchist theorist has ever been on the level of a Marx or Hegel. What they have meant by this fact is easy to pin down: traditionally, anarchist philosophers have not been system-builders and have not been on as profound a level in analyzing ideas and institutions as have the great ideologists. Marx is mentioned most frequently, perhaps, as a contrast, because Marx was equally competent in philosophy, economics, and history. Furthermore, Marx took a great variety of strands of thought prevalent in the mid-nineteenth century and unified them into a mighty system of socialism. Marx, moreover, was the father of a powerful ideological movement which has had a profound historical impact. And, whatever one may think of the fact, it is true that compared with Marx, all of the anarchist theorists can be considered superficial. Not that Warren, Tucker, Spooner, Stirner, Bakunin, Kropotkin, and Tolstoy, just to mention a few of the most famous anarchists, were in any way ignorant. Few theorists of any camp, for instance, are as rigorous, passionate, and systematic as Lysander Spooner. And few considered as many issues and events as Tucker. Bakunin, too, was the founder of a movement which, for a time at least, rivalled that of Marx. But after all of this is said, it remains to be faced: no anarchist theorist has reached the stature, intellectually speaking, of the great political philosophers in Western Civilization. Until now, that is. For within the last few years, libertarians have seen the initial signs of widespread recognition of the youngest of the libertarian "superstars": Murray N. Rothbard. Still in his mid-40s, Rothbard's writings have begun to see the light of day in the New York Times, Intellectual Digest, and many other prominent publications-left, right, and center. He has appeared on numerous radio and television shows, including the Today Show, and his ideas have been debated widely throughout the country. He is stirring up more and more admirers with the publication of his
[CTRL] FW: Killer Beams and TWA 800
-Caveat Lector- October 9, 2000 Theory links plane crashes to secret military 'killer beams' TWA Flight 800 and Swissair Flight 111 both took off from New York's JFK airport. Both departed on Wednesday, and both lifted off at precisely 20:19 hours. Both traveled the same initial route. A Harvard a professor postulates that both planes crashed as a result of electromagnetic transmissions of a military origin that sparked the fire and explosion that felled the passenger jets two years and 47 days apart. By George Jonas National Post THE THEORY On July 17, 1996, TWA Flight 800 exploded and crashed into the Atlantic near East Moriches, Long Island. Two years and 47 days later, on Sept. 2, 1998, Swissair Flight 111 caught fire and crashed into the Atlantic near Peggys Cove, N.S. In the Sept. 21, 2000, issue of The New York Review of Books, an essay by Harvard professor Elaine Scarry looks at electromagnetic interference as a possible factor in both accidents. Ms. Scarry calls on the authorities to investigate her theory vigorously, and concludes by promising a sequel to examine links not only between the TWA and Swissair crashes, but also another air disaster in the same region, the 1999 crash of EgyptAir Flight 990. For complete story go to: http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?f=/stories/20001009/424319.html = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] They are even having a symposium. What a farce!
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/symposium/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/symposium/" frontline: drug wars: national war on drugs sym /A - Moderator: Lowell Bergman; Panelists: Eric Sterling, president, Criminal Justice Policy Foundation Howard Safir, former Police Commissioner, New York City Dr. Robert Newman, president and CEO, Continuum Health Partners Robert Stutman, former special-agent-in-charge, DEA, New York City Moderator: David Cole; Panelists: Hon. Zackary Carter, former US Attorney, Eastern District of New York Hon. Robert Sweet, judge, US District Court for the Southern District of New York Hon. Kurt Schmoke, former mayor of Baltimore McCaffrey is the director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy/ Moderator: Juan Williams, NPR Host Panelists: Matthew Maher, former director of International Operations, DEA Mathea Falco, president, Drug Strategies, former Assistant Secretary of State for International Narcotics Matters Raymond Kelly, commissioner, US Customs Moderator: Juan Williams, NPR Host Panelists: Carlos Toro, US protected witness and former drug trafficker, Medellin cartel, Colombia Greg Passic, former special agent, DEA Steve Casteel, Assistant Administrator for Intelligence Operations, DEA home · drug warriors · $400bn business · buyers · symposium · special reports npr reports · interviews · discussion · archive · video · quizzes · charts · timeline synopsis · teacher's guide · tapes transcripts · press · credits · FRONTLINE · pbs online · wgbh new content copyright ©2000 pbs online and wgbh/frontline. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cocaine, conspiracy theories and the CIA in Central America...A load of .....
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/cia.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/cia.html" frontline: drug wars: special reports: cocaine, /A - Cocaine, conspiracy theories and the CIA in Central America Since its creation in 1947 under President Harry Truman, the CIA has been credited with a number of far-fetched operations. While some were proven - the infamous LSD mind-control experiments of the 1950s - others, like the assassination of John F. Kennedy and the crash of the Savings and Loans industry, have little or no merit. In 1996 the agency was accused of being a crack dealer. A series of expose articles in the San Jose Mercury-News by reporter Gary Webb told tales of a drug triangle during the 1980s that linked CIA officials in Central America, a San Francisco drug ring and a Los Angeles drug dealer. According to the stories, the CIA and its operatives used crack cocaine--sold via the Los Angeles African-American community--to raise millions to support the agency's clandestine operations in Central America. The CIA's suspect past made the sensational articles an easy sell. Talk radio switchboards lit up, as did African-American leaders like U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Los Angeles, who pointed to Webb's articles as proof of a mastermind plot to destroy inner-city black America. One of the people who was accused in the San Jose Mercury-News of being in the midst of the CIA cocaine conspiracy is one of the most respected, now retired, veteran D.E.A. agents, Robert "Bobby" Nieves. "You have to understand Central America at that time was a haven for the conspiracy theorists. Christic Institute, people like Gary Webb, others down there, looking to dig up some story for political advantage," Nieves said. "No sexier story than to create the notion in people's minds that these people are drug traffickers." But in the weeks following publication, Webb's peers doubted the merit of the articles. Fellow journalists at the Washington Post, New York Times and Webb's own editor accused him of blowing a few truths up into a massive conspiracy. Amongst Webb's fundamental problems was his implication that the CIA lit the crack cocaine fuse. It was conspiracy theory: a neat presentation of reality that simply didn't jibe with real life. Webb later agreed in an interview that there is no hard evidence that the CIA as an institution or any of its agent-employees carried out or profited from drug trafficking. Still, the fantastic story of the CIA injecting crack into ghettos had taken hold. In response to the public outcry following Webb's allegations--which were ultimately published in book form under the title Dark Alliance--the CIA conducted an internal investigation of its role in Central America related to the drug trade. Frederick Hitz, as the CIA Inspector General-- an independent watchdog approved by Congress--conducted the investigation. In October 1998, the CIA released a declassified version of Hitz's two-volume report. The IG's report cleared the CIA of complicity with the inner-city crack cocaine trade. It refuted charges that CIA officials knew that their Nicaraguan allies were dealing drugs. But, the report said that the CIA, in a number of cases, didn't bother to look into allegations about narcotics And the Hitz report describes how there was little or no direction for CIA operatives when confronted by the rampant traffic in drugs in Central American during the 1980s. What follows is a closer look at the Hitz report, drawing on interviews with Frederick Hitz and others interviewed for FRONTLINE's "Drug Wars" series. When the Marxist Sandinistas overthrew the government of longtime dictator Anastasio Somoza in 1979, U.S. approval soured when it became clear that the new regime saw itself as a satellite of Cuba, if not the Soviet Union. When Ronald Reagan became president soon after, he quietly began sending aid to those fighting the Marxist government. They were known as the Nicaraguan Resistance, or more simply, the Contras. As with Burma, Laos and Afghanistan before it -- where the U.S. had helped fight wars -- Nicaragua had a narcotics trade--a fact which was brought to the CIA's attention while the Contra effort was barely off the ground. In 1981 members of the Nicaraguan Revolutionary Democratic Alliance (ADREN) were working alongside CIA officers to overthrow the new Sandinista government.. As noted in the Hitz report, a cable to CIA headquarters stated that ADREN leadership had decided to "engage in drug smuggling to the United States in order to finance its anti-Sandinista operations." The cable stated that an "initial trial run" had taken place in July 1981, when drugs were transported via plane to Miami. In what would prove common during the Contra war, the CIA never followed up on the allegations, or bothered to verify whether the "initial run" had taken place, according to the Hitz
[CTRL] WP: Pentagon can't find Deutch disks
-Caveat Lector- "They noted that some computers the ex-official used were donated to schools without the hard drives being destroyed. When investigators located the computers, they were able to recover significant Pentagon information." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20001009/aponline164533_000.ht m Pentagon Can't Find Deutch Disks By John Solomon Associated Press Writer Monday, Oct. 9, 2000; 4:45 p.m. EDT WASHINGTON Pentagon investigators have been unable to locate computer diskettes that ex-CIA Director John Deutch used to store a journal when working at the Defense Department, officials say. The journal contained classified information. Deutch has declined to be interviewed about the whereabouts of the disks, created during his tenure as deputy defense secretary in the mid-1990s, officials said. "There's no way to tell what their ultimate disposition might have been without talking to Dr. Deutch, and he has declined requests for our investigators to talk with him on this or other topics," Rear Adm. Craig Quigley, a Pentagon spokesman, said. The investigation of the missing diskettes comes after CIA officials already concluded that Deutch improperly recorded government secrets in a private journal about his government experiences. He stored the journal on electronic storage cards during his tenure as head of the spy agency. While the storage cards he used at CIA have been recovered, the Pentagon was unable to locate the diskettes Deutch created during his Defense Department days, when he began the journal, officials said Monday. The Pentagon has been conducting a damage assessment to determine if his action jeopardized national security. The Justice Department also is investigating whether any criminal charges are warranted. Deutch's lawyer on Monday declined comment, citing the investigations. Deutch cooperated with the CIA probe, and earlier this year apologized for sloppy handling of classified information. At CIA's urging, Pentagon criminal investigators began their own inquiry in February into Deutch's handling of classified information when he was the No. 2 defense official from 1993 to 1995. They concluded he began compiling the journal during his tenure at the Pentagon and stored it on diskettes. "Dr. Deutch was known to transport these floppy disks in his shirt pocket," the investigators wrote in their report, which was obtained by The Associated Press. The investigators also found Deutch began to experience technical problems with the disks at the end of his tenure at the Pentagon, prompting him to change to higher-capacity storage cards at CIA. The electronic cards can store hundreds of times more information than a single floppy disk. According to the final draft report, Pentagon investigators also found Deutch "declined departmental requests that he allow security systems to be installed in his residence," where he sometimes worked on classified documents. His home computers were sometimes used to access the Internet. The missing diskettes are likely to focus new attention on the government's ability to protect its most important secrets an issue that has received extensive scrutiny in the aftermath of the Wen Ho Lee case at the Energy Department nuclear weapons labs. Lee was accused of downloading 10 computer tapes of nuclear weapons design secrets from the labs. Unable to locate seven tapes, the government charged Lee with 59 felonies and kept him in solitary confinement for nine months while trying to build a case against him. The government eventually reached a plea bargain in which Lee pleaded guilty to a single count of mishandling nuclear secrets. He also agreed to tell what he did with the information he admits to having downloaded onto tapes and unsecure computers. The government has not charged Deutch with any wrongdoing. The Pentagon investigators who probed Deutch raised concerns about lax Pentagon computer security. They noted that some computers the ex-official used were donated to schools without the hard drives being destroyed. When investigators located the computers, they were able to recover significant Pentagon information. None of the information was classified, but the investigators warned that such lax security could result in "the improper release and use of classified or sensitive information. "Current policy on what is required to dispose of these types of hard drives is not clear. We recommend that the department implement policy that requires the destruction of all computer hard drives, classified and unclassified, before the computer is disposed of outside the DOD," investigators wrote. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Grabbe v. Ruppert Easier to Read
This one's easier to separate Grabbe's comments from my own. -Original Message- From: Mike Ruppert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 10:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [CIA-DRUGS] PROMIS comment, by J. Orlin Grabbe Mike Ruppert's response: OK, I knew if I wrote two words on Promis that I would get sucked in. But Billy Tyree warned that if I was right then people would come out from all over to attack me. Guess he was right. But I would have expected better from Grabbe. This is really pretty lame. I've never read any of Grabbe's work on Promis. Oh, I've had it repeated to me as lore and legend but I've never read it. I knew McCoy. I knew Tyree. I was around while McCoy was dealing with another con man named Charlie Hayes who is now in jail. I was around when McCoy was dealing with another liar named Terry Reed, who we exposed completely on this list. I was around when McCoy was also dealing with a CIA wolf in sheep's clothing named Gene Wheaton. I know Chip Tatum, or did until early 1998 when he disappeared. I'll insert my reactions to Grabbe's remarks below and ask that someone please forward them to him. Please! He makes no mention of any of the new material I have added to the story and his pettiness is all too visible. If he's calling me irresponsible then perhaps he should put his legal mouth where his anus currently is and I'll see him in court. Responses below. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CIA-DRUGS] PROMIS comment, by J. Orlin Grabbe from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/promis_comment.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/promis_comment.htm"PROMIS comment, by J. Orlin Grabbe/A - PROMIS comment by J. Orlin Grabbe I run links to a lot of articles that I think are of interest. Some I basically agree with, some I violently disagree with, but none of them do I think are a waste of time. Like this one. It provides a useful overview, and I keep thinking that somewhere, somewhen, someone will get a clue. I've long given up caring whether they do or not. That being said, I have to make a few comments on this series of jpegs of pages from the From the Wilderness story of PROMIS. Some of the comments may hurt; but the truth often does. When you play with fire, you acquire a responsibility, and irresponsible people should shut the fuck up. Grabbe - --- - Item: "While we do not claim to be worthy of pulling Excalibur from the stone . . ." Item: ". . . one of three best informed open sources on the story in the world, William Tyree." Comment: Is there some discrepancy here? "I don't have a clue, but I can authoritatively tell you here is a world expert on the subject." It's like: "I don't know anything about history, but my neighbor, who is older than I, is a genius in the subject." Ruppert - Tyree was acknowledged by the RCMP, Bill Hamilton and Bill McCoy to have had better information on what happened to Promis than anyone since the "suicide" of Danny Casolaro with the exception of Riconoscuito. Grabbe says that I am making this up. No, I am reporting what I have from three very credible sources. Plus I have hard documents, not handwritten flow charts and not from Tyree, to back it up as well. Or do we throw out the statements of these people. Grabbe - --- - Item: "The First Rip Off" Comment: This wasn't the first rip-off. The first rip-off was when Bill Hamilton took a program created with public funds, and attached his and Inslaw's name to it. That was the first rip-off. The second rip-off was that of Meese/Brian/Lowell et al. Ruppert - That's your journalistic position. However I have yet to see or locate theft or embezzlement charges of any kind being filed against the Hamiltons by the USG. If your position is correct then how come, in all these years, even with DoJ's attempts to force Inslaw into bankruptcy, have we not seen these charges raised on behalf of a violated government? Why has not someone spoken out for the people whose property has been stolen? Grabbe - Item: "Confidential documents obtained by FTW indicate that much of the AI development was done at the Los Alamos National Laboratory and Sandia Labs . . ." Comment: Don't forget to read that top-secret document Fostergate, by Jim Norman. Ruppert - Sorry, but the documents that I have didn't come from you and they didn't originate with Tyree either. Are we jealous, Orlin, or just afraid of being shown to be biased? Grabbe - Item: "So meticulously researched and documented is the book [The Last Circle] that FTW's researcher 'The Goddess' has fact checked it and
[CTRL] JUDICIAL WATCH ETHICS IN GOVERNMENT PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE AND CONFERENCE
-Caveat Lector- 10/9/2000 Press Office 202-646-5172 JUDICIAL WATCH ETHICS IN GOVERNMENT PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE AND CONFERENCE Several Judicial Watch Clients to Appear, Including Several of the Women Harassed and Smeared by Bill and Hillary Clinton Presidential Debate to Discuss How To Restore Ethics In Government DATES: October 20 and 21, 2000 PLACE: Washington, DC (Washington, DC) Judicial Watchs Presidential Debate and Ethics in Government 2000 Conference, to be held at the Ronald Reagan Building (Amphitheater) and Hilton Washington on October 20 and 21, 2000, respectively, will be a rousing success. With nearly two weeks left before the events, already over 500 people have signed up. Many of Judicial Watchs clients, such as Dolly Kyle Browning, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Notra Trulock, III, Billy Dale, Johnny Chung, to name just a few, will be in attendance. This will be an opportunity to thank them for their patriotism and courage. In addition, the Presidential candidates will debate issues involving government corruption, an important issue which debate moderators have hesitated to get into thus far. Washington is one of the most beautiful cities in the world at this time of the year, and we should show our solidarity for those who have fought against Clinton-Gore and other government corruption over the last many years, stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. We have just begun to fight for the heart and soul of the country and we need your support and company, added Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. For more information about the Presidential Debate and Judicial Watch Ethics in Government 2000 Conference, including how to sign up, please click here to link with Judicial Watchs website at www.JudicialWatch.org. You may also call our toll free number: 800-790-9065. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AP: AIDS Cat Study Angers Activists
-Caveat Lector- AIDS Cat Study Angers Activists .c The Associated Press By KATE ROBERTS COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - A researcher's plan to infect 120 cats with the feline version of HIV and then inject them with methamphetamine to study the effects has outraged animal rights activists and is raising questions about the need for the federally funded study. Ohio State University professor Michael Podell received a $355,000 grant from the National Institute on Drug Abuse, part of the National Institutes of Health, for the first year of what he expects to be a five-year study costing $1.68 million. ``We want to understand more about HIV and drug abuse in people,'' said Podell, associate professor of veterinary clinical sciences. ``One of the ways to do that is to develop an animal model that has similar characteristics.'' Podell also is interested in the drug's effect on the nervous system. Methamphetamine speeds up neurological degeneration - something Podell says is becoming more of a problem as people with AIDS are living longer because of improved drug treatments. Feline immunodeficiency virus and human immunodeficiency virus have similar effects on the immune and neurological systems of their respective hosts, he said. Cats also respond to methamphetamine similar to the way people do. When injected, methamphetamine is a stimulant that can cause a feeling of euphoria and hyperactivity. It's also known to cause such long-term effects as paranoia, hallucinations and strokes. Peter Wood, a spokesman for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, attacked the study as ``cruel, wasteful and bizarre.'' He argued that HIV and FIV aren't similar enough for the research to transfer to humans and that the social pressures that would lead a person to take methamphetamine can't be replicated with cats. ``It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know meth use will have an adverse effect on your body so the disease will be promoted more vigorously,'' Wood said. ``Our limited resources would be better spent on teaching people how to avoid contracting HIV or on drug prevention.'' Julio Abreu, spokesman for AIDS Action, a Washington-based AIDS activist organization, said his group supports studies that aim to find a cure or vaccine, but to simply establish a control study in which the results are already known, whether it involves animals or humans, is a poor use of resources. ``In an era where there's still no cure and no vaccine, I'd hate for any precious resources to be misguided,'' Abreu said. Podell defended the study and said the National Institutes of Health has a set amount of money earmarked for AIDS research. ``The NIH has predetermined how to proportion their funds into basic science, clinical science and prevention programs,'' he said. ``The NIH has a very large budget for drug abuse prevention. There's already a tremendous amount of funding for that and it's not a situation where they'd take these funds and use them for a prevention program.'' On the Net: AIDS Action: http://www.aidsaction.org National Institutes of Health: http://www.nih.gov Ohio State University: http://www.osu.edu People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals: http://www.peta.org = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WND: Judges grill IRS' lawyer in journalists' appeal
-Caveat Lector- Tuesday October 10, 2000 Judges grill IRS' lawyer in journalists' appeal Klayman 'very pleased' with hearing on politically motivated audit By Julie Foster © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com During the Western Journalism Center's appeal of its case against the Internal Revenue Service, judges for the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals questioned a U.S. Justice Department attorney who had attempted to argue that "no legal remedy" exists for non-profit organizations targeted by the IRS for politically-motivated audits. Senior Circuit Judge Melvin Brunetti and Circuit Judges Stephen Reinhardt and Pamela Ann Rymer heard oral arguments Thursday in San Francisco for the Western Journalism Center's case against the IRS over a politically-motivated audit performed against the organization in 1996. A lower court dismissed the case more than a year ago. "We were very pleased with the way the court understood the case," said Judicial Watch's Larry Klayman, who represents the Western Journalism Center, founded by WorldNetDaily Editor and CEO Joseph Farah. "It was clear from the reaction of the judges that they believe there is legal remedy for politically-motivated IRS actions, despite the fact that Justice Department lawyers have claimed otherwise." Rymer questioned the government's attorney, saying, "I would suppose that you would agree that it is outrageous for the tax power and the IRS to be used for any political purpose." Stating her belief that the IRS was not acting out of political retribution, the lawyer replied that if such an action had been performed, "I would agree that it's outrageous, and I would also ... state that there is not cause of action," meaning WJC could do nothing about it. According to Klayman, other courts, including the 10th Circuit, have ruled a cause of action does indeed exist in such cases. For the sake of argument, however, Rymer continued, asking, "Do you think that it should go completely without remedy if the Internal Revenue Service is used against an individual or against a non-profit entity which is politically anathema to the administration?" "Well, it isn't up to me. It's up to Congress," the Justice Department lawyer answered. Dozens of non-profit organizations critical of the Clinton administration were audited during the 1990s, in addition to WJC. Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton believes the IRS's actions in such cases "ought to be front-page headlines across the nation." The court must now decide whether WJC's case should be allowed to come to trial. Fitton and Klayman discussed the case during their weekly radio talk show Saturday. Both are optimistic about the court's impending ruling. "It was clear, I think, from the way the judges reacted to the IRS lawyer ... that they weren't all that comfortable with it (politically-motivated audits) either," Fitton said Saturday. The Western Journalism Cener is seeking $10 million for First Amendment violations and damage to its reputation caused by the audit, which in turn served to reduce donations -- the organization's only source of income. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] Salon story on police surveillance of activists
Salon story on police surveillance of activists http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=5388 by Sarah Ferguson 11:43am Mon Oct 9 '00 Keeping an eye on protesters International authorities are sharing information -- not all of it accurate -- about anti-globalization activists. By Sarah Ferguson Sept. 29, 2000 | On Sept. 17, 23-year-old Kay Morrison of Seattle was standing on the platform at the Bad Schandau train station in Germany waiting for the train to Prague. She planned to join some 12,000 demonstrators who sought to disrupt the 55th annual meeting of the IMF and World Bank in Prague. Morrison says she was approached by Czech border police, who scanned her passport with a handheld computer. She was taken by train to another station, where police searched her belongings and informed her she was on the list of "persona non grata" -- not welcome in Prague this week "or in the future." She made another failed attempt to enter the country. After further inquiries, the Czech police announced on national television that Morrison had committed a misdemeanor on a previous trip to the Czech Republic; she had been fined for smoking a cigarette in the main train station. (It later turned out that the "receipt" the police gave her was false and that they overcharged her for the offense.) Though Czech authorities did not say so, Morrison believes she was put on the list because of her arrest in Seattle at last November's mass protests of the World Trade Organization. -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/15/_/7016/_/971145617/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- == SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html == *** NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to SPYNEWS eGroup members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml To subscribe SPYNEWS send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe SPYNEWS send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mario Profaca, SPY NEWS eGroup list owner, editor moderator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SPY NEWS home page: http://www.egroups.com/group/spynews =
[CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] Pentagon Can't Find Deutch Disks
Pentagon Can't Find Deutch Disks http://www.worldnews.com/?action=displayarticle=3886333template=worldnews/ search.txtindex=recent The Associated Press, Mon 9 Oct 2000 WASHINGTON (AP) Pentagon investigators have been unable to locate computer diskettes that ex-CIA Director John Deutch used to store a journal when working at the Defense Department, officials say. The journal contained classified information. Deutch has declined to be interviewed about the whereabouts of the disks, created during his tenure as deputy defense secretary in the mid-1990s, officials said. ``There's no way to tell what their ultimate disposition might have been without talking to Dr. Deutch, and he has declined requests for our investigators to talk with him on this or other topics,'' Rear Adm. Craig Quigley, a Pentagon spokesman, said. The investigation of the missing diskettes comes after CIA officials already concluded that Deutch improperly recorded government secrets in a private journal about his government experiences. He stored the journal on electronic storage cards during his tenure as head of the spy agency. While the storage cards he used at CIA have been recovered, the Pentagon was unable to locate the diskettes Deutch created during his Defense Department days, when he began the journal, officials said Monday. The Pentagon has been conducting a damage assessment to determine if his action jeopardized national security. The Justice Department also is investigating whether any criminal charges are warranted. Deutch's lawyer on Monday declined comment, citing the investigations. Deutch cooperated with the CIA probe, and earlier this year apologized for sloppy handling of classified information. At CIA's urging, Pentagon criminal investigators began their own inquiry in February into Deutch's handling of classified information when he was the No. 2 defense official from 1993 to 1995. They concluded he began compiling the journal during his tenure at the Pentagon and stored it on diskettes. ``Dr. Deutch was known to transport these floppy disks in his shirt pocket,'' the investigators wrote in their report, which was obtained by The Associated Press. The investigators also found Deutch began to experience technical problems with the disks at the end of his tenure at the Pentagon, prompting him to change to higher-capacity storage cards at CIA. The electronic cards can store hundreds of times more information than a single floppy disk. According to the final draft report, Pentagon investigators also found Deutch ``declined departmental requests that he allow security systems to be installed in his residence,'' where he sometimes worked on classified documents. His home computers were sometimes used to access the Internet. The missing diskettes are likely to focus new attention on the government's ability to protect its most important secrets an issue that has received extensive scrutiny in the aftermath of the Wen Ho Lee case at the Energy Department nuclear weapons labs. Lee was accused of downloading 10 computer tapes of nuclear weapons design secrets from the labs. Unable to locate seven tapes, the government charged Lee with 59 felonies and kept him in solitary confinement for nine months while trying to build a case against him. The government eventually reached a plea bargain in which Lee pleaded guilty to a single count of mishandling nuclear secrets. He also agreed to tell what he did with the information he admits to having downloaded onto tapes and unsecure computers. The government has not charged Deutch with any wrongdoing. The Pentagon investigators who probed Deutch raised concerns about lax Pentagon computer security. They noted that some computers the ex-official used were donated to schools without the hard drives being destroyed. When investigators located the computers, they were able to recover significant Pentagon information. None of the information was classified, but the investigators warned that such lax security could result in ``the improper release and use of classified or sensitive information. ``Current policy on what is required to dispose of these types of hard drives is not clear. We recommend that the department implement policy that requires the destruction of all computer hard drives, classified and unclassified, before the computer is disposed of outside the DOD,'' investigators wrote. On the Net: The Pentagon: http://www.defenselink.mil. Copyright 2000 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/15/_/7016/_/971151005/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- == SPY NEWS is OSINT
[CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] Settler Rampage: Five Killed - One Tortured to Death
Settler Rampage: Five Killed - One Tortured to Death LAW ~ October 9, 2000 In the past two days, Israeli settlers have been on the rampage. Armed, protected and supported by Israeli troops, the Israeli settlers have killed five Palestinian civilians in the past twenty-four hours; three killed in the occupied Palestinian territory and two in the city of Nazareth in Israel. Around one thousand Israeli extremist settlers from Natzrat Elite (Higher Nazareth), supported by the Israeli police, attacked East Nazareth; they broke into the homes of the Palestinian residents, and fired at Palestinian civilians killing Omar Ikawi, 42, and Wisam Yazbik, 26, and wounding thirty people, five of them critically. The deaths of Ikawi and Yazbik raise the death toll of Palestinians within the Green Line, (in Israel) to 13. In the occupied Palestinian territory, Israeli settlers have killed three Palestinians. Israeli settlers murdered Fahid Abu Baker, 23, from Bedia, Salfeet, in the occupied territories, on October 7, 2000. Settlers burned the body of Sayil Swaidan, 25, from Azoon, Qalqilia who disappeared during a settlers' attack on the Palestinian town. Farmers found the corpse of Swaidan in an olive feild. Swaidan had been shot in the back of his head, but it is not clear whether this was the cause of death. The body of Isam Hamad, 36, from Um Safa, Ramallah, was found in a field near his village. An eyewitness stated that he saw Hamad driving to his farm when an Israeli military vehicle stopped and took him away. Hamad was found dead today (October 9, 2000) in the morning near Pisgot settlement. Isam Hamad had been tortured to death. There is evidence that he was electrocuted, burned with a hot iron, and attacked with an axe. Law has asked a medical examiner to prepare a full report. For the past couple of days settlers attacked Palestinian citizens and their property and their homes. They used firearms in their attacks while the occupation army turned a blind eye to their aggressive acts. They attacked the Old City of Jerusalem and some parts of Shufat, Hizma, Shufat refugees' camp, Anata, Al Isawiyi, Al Ram, Dahiyit Al Bareed, and Harit Al Aqbat as well as Hebron and the main road junctions. This often occurred in sight of the Israeli army. LAW Society warns against the aggressive attacks of these racist and extreme Israeli settlers against the Palestinian people within the Green Line and the West Bank. It condemns the despicable crimes the Israeli police have committed against the Palestinian civilians. LAW condemns the support given to settlers by Israeli occupation army. LAW Society views the bloody homicides that the occupation army commits against the Palestinian civilians as opening the doors for settlers and the extreme racists to commit more crimes and cause more bloodshed. This is the consequence of years of arming settlers and the building of military arsenals in settlements. Henceforth, LAW Society demands the following: First: the government of Israel must bring the extremist and racist settlers, who attacked Nazareth, to justice, Second: the government of Israel must bring the Israeli police chiefs, who gave orders to kill the people of Nazareth, to justice, Third: the Israeli settlers in the occupied territories must be disarmed and their criminals brought to justice, Fourth: LAW repeats its demand that Israel comply with the implementation of the Geneva Conventions of 1949 protecting civilians. Fifth: LAW expresses its dismay and disbelief for the international silence towards the crimes in the occupied territories and within the Green Line against the Palestinian people. Sixth: LAW reminds the international community of their obligation to bring those responsible for these war crimes to trial as required under article 146 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. LAW - The Palestinian Society for the Protection for Human Rights and the Environment is a non-governmental organisation dedicated to preserving human rights through legal advocacy. PO Box 20873, Jerusalem Tel: 00 972 2 583 3428/3298/3537/3530/3430 Fax: 00 972 2 583 3317 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read more on the Palestinian-Isreali crisis: http://www.1worldcommunication.org Ravi Khanna, Director 1world communication P. O. Box 2476 Amherst, MA 01004 Phone: 413-323-7629 Fax: 413-323-9348 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web-site: http://www.1worldcommunication.org Signup to join 1world list. Get updates and participate in discussions. Send a blank e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/15/_/7016/_/971159705/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- == SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station
Re: [CTRL] RC question..... was Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death
-Caveat Lector- From: "Amelia" [EMAIL PROTECTED] June, You are not saying Satanists are Roman Catholics who turn THEIR religion etc. but people who turn the RC rituals inside out/upside down, etc. I don't think they have to be RC to be Satanists. Amelia Most Satanists are lapsed Roman Catholics, but not all. It is not a requisite of Satanism that an adherent have been raised in the Roman Catholic faith. But it doesn't change the fact that the religion was developed by ex-RCs who took the rituals they knew from RC and adapted them to Satanism. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: *New African* article Supporting M'beki
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Subject: *New African* article, Oct. 200, pp. 16-17.
( New African is one of the largest English-language magazines focused upon
African issues, published in London but circulated widely in Africa. )
Baffour's Beefs
Does Mbeki suffer from 'psychological trauma?' The sharks are circling.
They think they can smell blood in the water. But will Africa allow them to
make another kill?
View from the editor: Baffour Ankomah
The prey is Thabo Mbeki, president of South Africa, the African Renaissance
Man, the man who wants to see what lies at the bottom of the "African Aids
epidemic."
In 15 months as president, Mbeki has proved beyond doubt that he is nobody's
errand boy. Recently, the powers that be wanted him to deliver the head of
Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe on a silver plate. He refused.
His usual display of African presidential confidence is causing ripples
abroad, especially in Britain, where he has become the target of crude
headlines in recent days. The aim is to give him a bad name so they can hang
him.
All of a sudden, Mebeki is said to be suffering from some kind of mental
illness (mad is the word).
David Beresford, writing from South Africa for *The Observer ("Mbeki lets
Aids babies die in pain,* 20 August), set the ball rolling: "A Sussex
University economics graduate, seen during the years of struggle against
apartheid as the ANC's arch-diplomat, Mbeki was widely regarded as
sophisticated and cosmopolitan," Beresford wrote. "Time and experience now
offer, however, another perspective--of a man whose sensitivity on race
points to a previously undiscovered psychological trauma which, while
deserving of sympathy, makes him among the politicians least qualified to
heal past wounds."
Three days later, Michael Dynes, writing in *The Times (Mbeki flounders as
economic malaise settles on South Africa,* 23 Aug.), put his own spin on it:
"...Mbeki is suffering from a gargantuan persecution complex."
The field was now cleared for R. W. Johnson, one of the most ribald of
British rightwing journalists, who recently wrote in *The Telegraph* that
"Africa should be recolonised," to take a swipe at Mbeki (*The new apartheid,
The Spectator,* 26 August).
"Crudely put," Johnson wrote, "many now believe that Mbeki is no longer
playing with a full pack--that he's off his rocker. A Russian friend said to
me, 'It's strange about Mbeki. In Russia it generally takes about five years
for our presidents to go mad. He's done it in one.'"
So Mbeki is mad! They said the same about Nkrumah, Lumumba, and recently
Mugabe. Any African leader who shows the slightest sign of independent
thought is mad. Yet Africa is accused of not offering its own solutions to
its problems.
Now we are left with the likes of R. W. Johnson offering Mbeki advice: "Mbeki
is already in a hole," says Johnson, "and if he keeps digging, he can only
end as South Africa's Mugabe. It is unfortunate that he has a circle of
fawning yes-men as advisers, for the advice he really needs is that he should
stop digging."
It was the turn of *The Sunday Times* on 2l7 August to put the knife in.
*Enemy of the people,* was the headline. "Nelson Mandela," *The Sunday
Times* said, "was always going to be a hard act to follow... If the man to do
it was [Mbeki], it seemed just an eccentric part of the new Pretoria
politics. That was before Thabo Mbeki declared himself a medical expert who
understood his country's Aids epidemic better than the global authorities."
Three days before *The Sunday Times* article, a curious one had appeared in
the *International Herald Tribune (South Africa rejects Aids drug loans*).
Written by Rachel L. Swarns, the article said: "The US offer of $1 billion in
annual loans to finance the purchase of anti-Aids drugs in sub-Saharan Africa
has been rejected by South Africa, one of the countries most devastated by
the disease, health officials said."
You didn't have to read the whole article to see the mischief hidden in the
headline. In the very second paragraph, Rachel writes: "Namibia has also
rejected the offer, and other nations in this stricken region are voicing
serious reservations, the officials say."
In effect, it is not only South Africa that has rejected the "Aids drug
loans." So why pick on South Africa in the headline? Why not "Africa
rejects Aids drug loans?" In fact that is what the story says. But,
remember, "get the shepherd and scatter the flock." It works!
But Rachel wasn't finished. She continued: "The [loan] offer last month by
the US Export-Import Bank, an independent government agency, financed by the
US Congress, was made to 24 sub-Saharan countries. Bank officials say none
of the countries has formally accepted the offer so far."
The loans are being offered
Re: [CTRL] David Icke
-Caveat Lector- From the Melbourne (Australia) Age: http://www.theage.com.au/breaking/0010/10/A42759-2000Oct10.shtml Claims of baby-selling racket may be probed by police Source: AAP|Published: Tuesday October 10, 6:33 PM Police may be asked to investigate claims that a baby-selling racket is operating in Sydney following the publication of a newspaper advertisement that offers money to expectant mothers. The advertisement, carried in a western suburbs newspaper last week by an organisation called Caring Mums, offers 'financial assistance' to pregnant women considering adopting their children. The group suggested new mums could use the money to holiday or do a course, but denied it was involved in a 'buying a baby' scheme. The Department of Community Services, which became aware of the advertisement last Friday after it was contacted by a concerned resident, announced today it had begun making inquiries into the service. 'We are making inquiries and the matter is likely to be referred to the police,' a department spokesman said. New South Wales Democrats MP Arthur Chesterfield-Evans, who raised the matter in NSW parliament, said he had contacted the group at its hotmail address after being approached by a local resident. He described the scheme as extremely suspicious. 'This service is completely immoral as it's basically asking mothers to sell their children,' he said. 'It offers financial assistance to mothers who are at an extremely vulnerable time. 'These practices are not a thing of the past and the offer of money to mothers in order to give up their children has to be stopped immediately.' Dr Chesterfield-Evans said while there was no evidence that the babies were being given to the couples providing mothers with financial assistance, the advertisement did suggest 'some kind of profiteering' was underway. The group, in a response to an email message sent by Dr Chesterfield-Evans, denied it was engaging in a 'buying a baby' scheme. However, it admitted financial assistance was being given to mothers by 'caring couples' willing to give children loving homes. 'This does not mean that they are buying a baby but rather they would prefer to give assistance directly to the mother as opposed to an agency,' it said. 'The mothers then can use the assistance to rebuild their lives (perhaps do the course that they have always wanted, or a holiday etc, the amounts can be discussed if applicable).' The group said it had been set up by women who had either adopted their children or knew someone who had. As a result, it had contacts to caring couples wanting children. It said the service had been 'very popular' with mothers and couples 'struggling to come to terms with their pending births'. But Dr Chesterfield-Evans said the advertisement suggested evidence of a baby-selling scheme. He called on the government to support a crossbench amendment to its adoption laws which would make it illegal to offer inducements to parents to adopt their children. Under proposed adoption laws it was only an offence to threaten parents to adopt, he said. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PBS: What a load of . . . .
-Caveat Lector- From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The "official" line told with some good graphics, but was nothing but pablum to feed the masses. seems to be leading towards some failed drug war hoohaw and laying groundwork for continued involvement in Columbia. Hogwash City. Interestingly, The History Channel at the same time (at least here in the Eastern Time Zone) was showing the first installment of a multipart documentary (that continues tonight) about how various drugs became criminalized... They spent quite a bit of time in this first installment on marijuana, and all in all the government and its case for criminalizing pot did not come off well... Towards the end there was even an argument made that under the Constitution, citizens should be free to ingest anything they want, especially if its deemed relatively 'safe'... It'll be interesting to see the other installments, to see what legal arguments pro or con are presented regarding other drugs... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: Killer Beams and TWA 800
-Caveat Lector- Theories are just that: Theories. Lets see some hard facts to back up this theory. Bill In a message dated 10/9/00 11:31:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Theory links plane crashes to secret military 'killer beams' TWA Flight 800 and Swissair Flight 111 both took off from New York's JFK airport. Both departed on Wednesday, and both lifted off at precisely 20:19 hours. Both traveled the same initial route. A Harvard a professor postulates that both planes crashed as a result of electromagnetic transmissions of a military origin that sparked the fire and explosion that felled the passenger jets two years and 47 days apart. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] NYTimes.com Article: U.S. Companies Tangled in Web of Drug Dollars
Of course, it is not just limited to the "peso exchange." Black market brokers deal in prodigious amounts of "black" currency all over the world (see below). Generally these brokers don't specialise but will deal in anything going from gold to emeralds to cigarettes and so on. The point is, if I can penetrate this market, collect info, meet and speak with participants - some operating at government level - then how hard could it be for the DoJ to do likewise? If they wanted they could stamp on it hard but choose not to do so for reasons we are all now very familiar with. Note that the following true example begins with a "trial" tranche of 30 million French francs. It is not unusual to see deals for billions of dollars and foreign currency equivalents thereof (dope is an international trade after all). David QUOTE: CASH TO CASH EXCHANGE B). Italian Lira/GBP/SPS exchange for French Francs Cash to Cash/St. Laurent Du Var, France. Procedures : 1). Buyer send LOI/Fee Protection acknowledging his understanding and acceptance of the Sellers procedures, in writing. 2). The trial tranche of 30 Million French Francs (6 Million Dollars equivalent) will take place in St. Laurent Du Var, in the Brinks Security House.subsequent tranches may be in a Security House, of Buyers choice in a EEC country. Seller will not transact in Switzerland, Liechtenstein or Italy. 3). Buyer receives from Seller a transaction code for the exchange and is advised of the Address of the Security House and date for exchange. This is done...after proper paper work, by having a conference call between Buyer and Seller (No Mandates). Arrangements are made at that time i.e.; window time and date of meeting/transaction. If the French Francs are deposited in The St. Laurent Designated Security House by 10amthe day of the transaction (agreed upon by both parties), the currency of choice will be exchanged right away. If FF'$ are deposited after 10ama delay of hours is possible. 4). The discount for the three offered currencies is: 20% Gross14% Net. A commission of 6% is divided 3% to Sellers side (closed) 3% to Buyers side. Subsequent tranches may be more that 30 Million France and transacted in the Buyers location of choiceexcluding the above stated locations the Seller will not deal in. Quantity and Location of exchange is mutually agreed upon in St. Laurent. If your buyer agree upon the following terms, procedures and commission structure than we'll start immediately to proceed. Please respond to the above and let me know if this procedure will work for you. The person we are dealing with now is a very nice and reasonable person and is easy to deal with. UNQUOTE __ THE SECRET GOLD TREATY exposes many of the darkest secrets that the financial elite prayed would never be made public. It unveils the shocking truth about gold looted during WWII and how immense quantities of this black market gold has been used as a secret funding back-bone for the CIA during the cold war. The books reveals the hidden history surrounding the ouster of Indonesia's President Sukarno and lays bare the reason behind Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos's sudden flight from office. THE SECRET GOLD TREATY takes you behind the black curtain of deniable covert operations and financial intrigue by banking cartels and powerful organisations of the financial elite. Above all, THE SECRET GOLD TREATY lays bare the most artfully protected secret of them all... that gold is not at all rare! BUY your copy today by visiting: http://www.solari.com/goldtreaty/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:53 AM Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] NYTimes.com Article: U.S. Companies Tangled in Web of Drug Dollars This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by Eben Rey [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list Well you guys are having some effect!! Eben Eben Rey [EMAIL PROTECTED] / advertisement ---\ Olympic Greats Photo Screensaver Download Olympic Greats Photo Screensaver from NYTimes.com, featuring the unforgettable Times's photos of past Olympic games. Enjoy these images every day on your computer, absolutely FREE. http://www.nytimes.com/partners/screensaver/index.html?eta3 \--/ U.S. Companies Tangled in Web of Drug Dollars http://www.nytimes.com/2000/10/10/national/10PESO.html October 10, 2000 By LOWELL BERGMAN On a rainy day last June, a group of corporate executives gathered in a conference room at the Justice Department for a meeting with Attorney General Janet Reno and other top government officials. The executives represented some of the pillars of corporate America Hewlett-Packard, Ford Motor Company, Whirlpool. The session was
Re: [CTRL] PBS: What a load of . . . .
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/10/00 6:43:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Towards the end there was even an argument made that under the Constitution, citizens should be free to ingest anything they want, especially if its deemed relatively 'safe'.. Tis more than an argument but is the truth. The constitution gives no authority to any branch of the government for prohibitional statutes against plants that come from God. Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] NYTimes.com Article: U.S. Companies Tangled in Web of Drug Dollars
This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by Eben Rey [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list Well you guys are having some effect!! Eben Eben Rey [EMAIL PROTECTED] / advertisement ---\ Olympic Greats Photo Screensaver Download Olympic Greats Photo Screensaver from NYTimes.com, featuring the unforgettable Times's photos of past Olympic games. Enjoy these images every day on your computer, absolutely FREE. http://www.nytimes.com/partners/screensaver/index.html?eta3 \--/ U.S. Companies Tangled in Web of Drug Dollars http://www.nytimes.com/2000/10/10/national/10PESO.html October 10, 2000 By LOWELL BERGMAN On a rainy day last June, a group of corporate executives gathered in a conference room at the Justice Department for a meeting with Attorney General Janet Reno and other top government officials. The executives represented some of the pillars of corporate America Hewlett-Packard, Ford Motor Company, Whirlpool. The session was not publicized because those at the meeting shared an unlikely and potentially embarrassing problem: their companies, they feared, were being singled out in the nation's war on drugs, and neither they nor the government was quite sure what to do. With the intensifying federal crackdown on money laundering, agents had been tracking drug money into the accounts of American corporations and their distributors and dealers. In fact, federal officials said, about $5 billion a year in Colombian drug money is used to buy goods and services from cigarettes to computer chips from American companies. What makes that possible is a system known as the black-market peso exchange, a complex money trade that law enforcement officials say has become increasingly important to the Colombian narcotics trade. The system really a network of currency brokers with offices in New York, Miami, the Caribbean and South America is essentially an underground money market that lets the traffickers exchange American dollars for Colombian pesos. Those dollars, which stay in the United States, are then bought by Colombian companies that use them to buy American goods for sale back home. But the government's efforts to seize that money have put it on a collision course with corporations, which say they are victims with no way of knowing that they and their distributors are being paid with drug money. As they met on June 6, those executives, lawyers and law enforcement officials found themselves grappling with a conundrum: when does drug money stop being drug money? How far does a company's responsibility go? The questions have been confronting law enforcement officials for years. "What are we going to do?" asked Greg Passic, a former drug enforcement agent who now advises the government on the economics of the narcotics industry. "We've got the Fortune 500 involved in our drug- money laundering process." For a long time, because of lax enforcement of United States currency laws, the drug traffickers were able to launder billions of dollars through American financial institutions. A crackdown in the 1980's pushed traffickers to what they saw as a virtually fail-safe system for getting back their profits the black-market peso exchange. Their growing reliance on that system shows how deeply the drug trade has become entwined in the legitimate economies of the United States, Colombia and other nations. Colombian officials said that as much as 45 percent of their country's imported consumer goods are bought with money laundered through the peso exchange. On the American side, law enforcement officials said the exchange has largely eliminated the trade deficit with Colombia. The market, said the customs commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, "is the ultimate nexus between crime and commerce, using global trade to mask global money laundering." So far, no large American company has faced criminal charges. And companies have almost always been able to prevent federal officials from keeping money that has been seized. But in the last few years, as frustration has risen, the government has taken a tougher line. There have been Congressional hearings intended to put companies on notice by name. Prosecutors have issued warnings and stepped up efforts to seize laundered money. At the same time, the government has encouraged companies to institute "know your customer" policies similar to those used in the financial industry. The policies gave dealers and distributors techniques for recognizing money laundering. Thus educated, the government thought, the companies would be less able to argue that they simply could not have known. In drawing the line between legitimate and illegitimate profits, the government must not only prove that the money came from drug deals; it must show that the recipient "knew or should have known" its source. In the war on drugs, that line has proved very
[CTRL] Fwd: Legalization Picks up Steam in Europe
LONDON - The campaign to legalize marijuana in Britain gained a burst of new momentum this weekend as politicians, pundits and even some police officers called for repeal of the prohibition on use of the drug. And it all came about as a backlash against a tough new proposal calling for "zero tolerance" of marijuana. http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00.n1513.a04.html !!!New Listings!!!** Jerusalem: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 32 May 5 2001 Space Odyssey Cities Confirmed! hey! i got me a phone! shazam! (014-972)050-494-447 ready to roll in the Holy of the land. jo Some one there needs to hand out a lot of the pacifying herb. Don't get shot handing out joints. Dana/cnw Kent: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 32 May 5 2001 Space Odyssey Cities Confirmed! Hey Dana, how's this? http://mjmarch.webhop.org/> we're looking into reserving the music pavillion downtown and I'm going to contact my friends at NORML tomorrow. Are there any forms we need to fill out? we don't have a phone number, but most everyone at school here uses e-mail anyway. I'mt hinking about putting a jam band and a hip hop act downtown that day and having a big party. I'm not sure if I should notify the police, I don't know that they'd be all that supportive, although I guess you never know. I've just heard a lot of bad things about the Kent cops. There is a headshop across from the police station though. Alright man, get back to me on the info if you would. We appreciate it. peace, matthew s. donowick Chico: From: MP Jimmy Ogle [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Chico, CA www.Pot-Party.com Dana, please feel free to link my contact address as http://www.pot-party.com if you can. PS, I plan to get rid of the banners ASAP, and http://www.usparliament.org is ok too. In fact, we may move to coordinate the entire parliament behind your efforts. :) Best, --Jimmy *!!!MAY 5, 2001 SPACE ODYSSEY: 33 CONFIRMED CITIES!!!* Albuquerque: "robb" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anchorage: Fryderyk Frontier [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Auckland: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Austin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Tracey Hayes" 512-493-7357 Berlin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Burlington: "Robert J. Melamede" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chico: MP Jimmy Ogle [EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.pot-party.com or adrian aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED] DesMoines: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Detroit: "jude joseph" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Edinborough: "Linda Hendry" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frankenthal: helmut holtzheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Halifax: Jimmy Dorey [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hilo: Roger Christie [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jerusalem: Joseph (014-972)050-494-447 Kansas City: Global Peace Cafeneh [EMAIL PROTECTED]>globalpeas, 1518 s. 18th st., KC KS 66101 Kent: http://mjmarch.webhop.org/> Lansing: Kathy Kennedy 517-628-3915 London: Chris 01144-171-637-7467 Madison: Ben 608-257-5456 Montreal: Marc-Boris St-Maurice [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nashville: "Howie Marivuana Leinoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> New Orleans: "Ashley The Fearless" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nimbin: "rebelart" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Orlando: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oslo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> / www: home.powertech.no/belkjekk/mmm/2001/ Paris: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> FARId GHEHIOUECHE Home phone : 01 42 51 50 85; Mobile: 06 14 81 56 79 Portland: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richmond: "Roy B. Scherer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, zariela dread [EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Francisco: http://www.drugpeace.org/mmm Santa Cruz: DdC [EMAIL PROTECTED]> St. Louis: Global Peace Cafeneh [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tampa: (813)779-2551. Michael Palmieri [EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; ( FORML ). P.O. Box 2061 Zephyrhills, Florida 33539. Yarmuth: temporarily 902-742-9249. "Ryan Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> PLEASE EMAIL YR COMPLETE CONTACT PHONE NUMBER, NAME EMAIL FOR LISTING HERE! * How many of your friends want info on the World Cannabis Protest next May 5th? The 2001 Space Odyssey: Parades, Rallies Teach-ins in 900 cities! Act now and they can put on their own marijuana march in the city or location where they live. All we need to list them is a name, email address and/or phone number. Send us their email addresses, we'll get them up to speed. Dana/cnw
[CTRL] Fwd: PEPIS #22 - Bilderberg and CIA bounced Danes into EU
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 22:02:44 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Tony Gosling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PEPIS #22 - Bilderberg and CIA bounced Danes into EU : : : : From The Daily Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=003489826232011rtmo=pINbpIIeatmo=t ttdpg=/et/00/9/20/wdane20.html // Power Elite Public Information Service - www.bilderberg.org/bilder.htm#pepis PLEASE FORWARD TO NEWSGROUPS AND ANYONE YOU FEEL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS INFORMATION This is an occasional (approx. 1 per month) free email list as part of the campaign for press access to and public awareness of Bilderberg and similar elite meetings. See www.bilderberg.org/bilder.htm for more info. To subscribe or unsubscribe send me [EMAIL PROTECTED] an email with PEPIS in the subject header. This list archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/PEPIS@marsbard.com and http://www.egroups.com/messages/pepis \\ US AGENTS PRESSED DANES TO JOIN EU By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels The Daily Telegraph - Wednesday 20th September 2000 AMERICA played a key role behind the scenes in persuading the Danes to join the European Economic Community, according to declassified US government files. The documents show that Washington sought to exert influence on key figures in the Danish political establishment after the war, while funding and directing European federalist groups. Washington exerted its influence through the American Committee on a United Europe, a US intelligence front chaired by Gen William Donovan, former head of the US Office of Strategic Services, precursor of the CIA. The files show that Jens Otto Krag, the prime minister who took Denmark into the Common Market in 1972, was a guest of the Bilderberg Group, a network of influential US and European figures who met each year to promote European integration and free trade along lines desired by Washington. The Bilderberg group has since changed its character dramatically. Many of its participants are now Euro-sceptic and America has mixed feelings about closer European integration. [Just take a look at what core Bilderberg people like Kenneth Clarke and Etienne Davignon are saying - they are in fact lobbying extremely hard for the euro - bear in mind this article appeared in Bilderberg arch-duke Conrad Black's personal rag! ed.] The Danish government said it would block the European Union's Nice Treaty in December rather than give way on any proposals that erode national control over tax, labour and welfare policy. The move came as a Gallup poll showed opponents of the euro 12 points ahead a week before the referendum on adopting the currency. Posted by: _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ there is only ONE place to GET IT! ... CentrExNews.com - Alternative News/Links http://www.centrexnews.com // Power Elite Public Information Service - www.bilderberg.org/bilder.htm#pepis PLEASE FORWARD TO NEWSGROUPS AND ANYONE YOU FEEL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS INFORMATION This is an occasional (approx. 1 per month) free email list as part of the campaign for press access to and public awareness of Bilderberg and similar elite meetings. See www.bilderberg.org/bilder.htm for more info. To subscribe or unsubscribe send me [EMAIL PROTECTED] an email with PEPIS in the subject header. This list archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/PEPIS@marsbard.com and http://www.egroups.com/messages/pepis \\ "Tudor Lodge Spiritual Centre" http://www.sandie.clara.net/ See our Home-Page "Spanish Retreat" website at: http://www.para.clara.net/
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- Well Bill - you have been in luck - lightning took ou my web modem, so I went back to my old one. This is a very interesting item sent in by Jim Marrs..I want to add something and the information I knew to be correct nearly 30 years ago, but no official documentation right now. Lee Harvey Oswald has a mastoic operation behind his ear from surgery when child; when the autopsy was done on Lee Harvey Oswald, a Bethesda as I recall, there is no mention of this mastoid scar. Last night on TV it showed a man with such a scar, it was very visible and was years and years old (medical program). So an important scar such as this, how could doctors miss this one.then I thought of Jonestown - my friend with MI6 told me way back in 1979 that many of these people had implants behind their ears..now this was over 20 years ago and from some of this Mkultra stuff, etc., I wonder..people have been known to pick up radio communications in teeth which had been filled - Lucille Ball for instance, was picking up radio communications..might add she had been brought before House of Unamerican Activities but it was her grandfathre who was a communist - but Dezi Arnez had mob connections and little Sirhan worked for a racetrack or something he owned at one time..Ball, I think, was involved in something...who knows when it comes to movie stars and movies, along with Television - which now serves as the secret link between literature and the police as William Hazlett once said of a newspaper owner? So all is goodbut when Oswald said when asked what was in his package that day, he said "curtain rods"so, it was curtans for Kennedy s the rod of iron not only struck through him, but his brother as well.Oswald used this bible code - or the assassins behind him did, and so did little Sirhan and his mentors. Its KGB all the way which comes in many colors and disguises and today you find them in cahoots with the Clinton Administratin and NWO terrorists. Anyway, now my house has been hit by lighting three times in 5 years..go a new television out of it, lost a big pine tree with great ball of fire, and then now they got my Web TV - but I had one in reserve...sometimes I think those Weather Modification terrorists have my (house) number. Anyway, my house was full of little lightning bolts and I saw the one hit my web..I thought missed me again, you lousy.but they got my web (just kidding). A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sv: [CTRL] David Icke
-Caveat Lector- Johannes Schmidt III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh. If you have a spare $50, or a very broad-minded public library, try reading through The Truth Will Set You Free. The scholarship on his website is something else. They published as fact an article written some years ago in a gaming magazine about the 'Serpent People' of ancient Lemuria who still walk among us. The article in question was for a role-playing game, which seems to have evaded the researcher's notice. I don't know if Icke himself posted it there, but I'm sure he would be aware of it. Dear Johannes, Why dont you write this to David Icke, and let us know what he answers. Love, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hillary, Lazio Fall for Hoax
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,39346,00.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,39346,00.html" Hillary, Lazio Fall for Hoax/A - Hillary, Lazio Fall for Hoax by Declan McCullagh 11:00 a.m. Oct. 9, 2000 PDT Count the two major-party contenders for New York's Senate seat among the thousands who have fallen for one of the Internet's oldest hoaxes. That's right: Both Hillary Rodham Clinton and Rep. Rick Lazio are adamantly opposed to bill 602P, a hair-raising proposal by scheming legislators hoping to tax every piece of email sent or received. Never mind that there is no bill 602P in Congress, and that the federal government has previously condemned the alert as an unusually virulent urban legend. But neither Clinton nor Lazio knew that, and both angrily denounced 602P in response to a question during a debate on Sunday. Moderator Marcia Kramer of WCBS asked Clinton and Lazio about 602P toward the end of the debate, which was broadcast live on CNN. "I'd like to ask you how you stand on Federal Bill 602P," Kramer asked, according to a transcript. "Under the bill that's now before Congress, the U.S. Postal Service would be able to bill email users five cents for each email they send, even though the post office provides no service. They want this to help recoup losses of about $230 million a year because of the proliferation of emails. But if you send just 10 emails a day, that would cost consumers an extra $180 a year." She asked both Clinton and Lazio "if you would vote for this bill." The first lady was the first to respond, saying that she wanted technology to be a "beacon" for New York state that would close the "digital divide." "Based on your description, Marcia, I wouldn't vote for that bill," Clinton said. "It sounds burdensome and not justifiable to me." Lazio, who has been in the House of Representatives for eight years, was more direct. "I am absolutely opposed to this," Lazio said. "This is an example of the government's greedy hand, in trying to take money from taxpayers that, frankly, it has no right to. We need to keep the government's hands off the Internet. WCBS says the 602P question was one of many suggested by viewers via email. "The debate's moderator, Marcia Kramer, was not aware that there is no such bill," the station said in a statement. While this is the most prominent appearance yet of 602P, the urban legend has been around for years. "The email message claims that a 'Congressman Schnell' has introduced 'Bill 602P' to allow the federal government to impose a 5-cent surcharge on each email message delivered over the Internet," the Postal Service said in statement last year. "The money would be collected by Internet service providers and then turned over to the Postal Service. No such proposed legislation exists. In fact, no 'Congressman Schnell' exists." The House of Representatives has been so besieged by calls from concerned constitutents that in May it took the unusual step of approving legislation to reassure everyone that the feds had no such plans. "I would note that many congressional offices have been bombarded with an insidious email campaign over the past year denouncing the fictitious legislation introduced by Mr. Schnell, who does not exist, which would accomplish precisely the opposite result of the bill we consider today," Rep. John Dingell (D-Michigan) said at the time. "I only hope that the passage of H.R. 1291 will finally extinguish this cybermyth for once and all," Dingell said. But like all persistent myths, there's a tiny bit of truth underneath. Telephone companies in 1997 unsuccessfully lobbied the FCC to levy minute-by-minute access charges on ISPs, which would boost the cost of dialup connections and email. Over 300,000 people emailed the FCC at the time to complain. And a United Nations group last year proposed a tax of one U.S. cent on every 100 email messages. The original version of the 602P myth seems to have originated in Canada, prompting Canada Post to release a statement last year refuting the rumor. Copyright © 2000 Wired Digital Inc., a Lycos Network site. All rights reserved. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always,
[CTRL] Hague signals retreat on drugs
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=003602252754541rtmo=3mnYmBwMatmo=rrv spg=/et/00/10/10/nhag10.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=003602252754541rtmo=3mnYmBwMatmo=r rvspg=/et/00/10/10/nhag10.html"Hague signals retreat on drugs/A - ISSUE 1964 Tuesday 10 October 2000 Hague signals retreat on drugs By George Jones, Political Editor WILLIAM HAGUE yesterday signalled a full-scale retreat on Ann Widdecombe's hardline "zero tolerance" policy on possession of cannabis. He sought to end the disarray over the party's anti-drugs stance by announcing that there would be further consultations on the plan for mandatory fixed penalty fines for those caught with small quantities of soft drugs. Conservative MPs believe the policy has been shelved and will not form part of the election manifesto after it was condemned as unworkable by the police and civil rights groups. Keith Hellawell, coordinator of the Government's anti-drug policies, yesterday joined the growing band of critics of Miss Widdecombe's proposals, saying they were unrealistic and impracticable. After five days of internal party feuding over the plan, Mr Hague called a press conference at Conservative Party headquarters to announce that the party's entire drug policy was going back to the drawing board. The Tory leader, who had applauded Miss Widdecombe's party conference speech announcing the £100 fines for anyone caught with the smallest amount of cannabis, acknowledged that there were "concerns" about the plan. He refused to repeat the "zero tolerance" phrase she had used to describe the new policy. Mr Hague said he still had "150 per cent confidence" in Miss Widdecombe, and that she would be a "great crime-fighting Home Secretary". But the retreat was a further humiliation for Miss Widdecombe, whose political prospects have been badly damaged by the row, which overshadowed last week's conference. Although the Tories have been embarrassed by the furore, Mr Hague sought to draw some comfort from the fact that it had started a national debate on future drugs policy. Senior Conservatives also hope the admission by seven members of the shadow Cabinet that they had experimented with drugs in their youth would demonstrate that the party leadership is made up of "normal" people, in touch with current issues. Michael Fabricant, Tory MP for Lichfield, last night became the latest member of his party to admit to smoking cannabis as a student. Asked on Sky News whether he had tried it, he replied: "Me? I went to university in the Seventies and yes, I tried it." Mr Hague reaffirmed his party's opposition to decriminalising cannabis. He said drugs caused "great misery and problems" and the Tories were convinced that they had to "step up the war" against drug pushers rather than surrender to them. He denied that the leadership was abandoning Miss Widdecombe's policy of ending police cautions and imposing a mandatory fine of at least £100 on those caught possessing even small amounts of soft drugs for their own use. But he appeared to acknowledge the criticism from many colleagues that the policy threatened to criminalise thousands of young people who might be experimenting with drugs. 9 October 2000: Drug cautions will stay, says Widdecombe 8 October 2000: Top Tories admit to smoking cannabis 7 October 2000: Widdecombe plan would jail 2,000 6 October 2000: Ancram leads the U-turn on cannabis 5 October 2000: Fixed fines for cannabis dismissed by police 4 October 2000: Tory crackdown on cannabis © Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 2000. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
[CTRL] Anti-Semitism 'respectable' again
-Caveat Lector- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/2000-1 People Anti-Semitism 'respectable' again as more Jews move into Germany By Imre Karacs in Berlin 8 October 2000 When Paul Spiegel's father came back emaciated from Dachau at the end of the war, a neighbour embraced him and carried him into his own house. In the cellar he was shown a veritable Jewish shrine: the sacred Torah and prayer books rescued by the German neighbour from the ashes of the local synagogue. Mr Spiegel knew then that Germany would remain his home. Jewish life has flourished since those dark says. Today, Paul Spiegel leads one of the biggest Jewish communities in Europe: more than 81,000 living proofs of the futility of Hitler's "Final Solution". And yet Mr Spiegel is beginning to wonder aloud whether his father and others like him made the right choice. "The elderly in particular ask the question: should we leave again?" he said last week by the smouldering walls of the synagogue in his home town, Düsseldorf. Unknown attackers had thrown at least three petrol bombs into the building on the night Germans were celebrating the 10th anniversary of reunification. Two days later, vandals struck again in the Berlin district of Kreuzberg, shattering two windows of its synagogue with stones. That brought this year's tally to three, not counting all the desecrated tombs. On Hitler's birthday in April, two neo-Nazi youths firebombed Erfurt's synagogue. There have been sporadic attacks on cemeteries and other Jewish targets. Also on reunification day, the Buchenwald concentration camp memorial was vandalised, and gallows daubed on a sign at its entrance. Many such incidents, however repugnant, are little more than childish pranks, perpetrated by young, complex-ridden East German lads who have never heard of the Third Reich. But the troubling aspect of the latest anti-Semitic outrages is that they are happening in the most prosperous parts of West Germany. And the phenomenon is no longer confined to the under-class. "You find anti-Semitism not only in the beer hall but also in the champagne milieu," says Michel Friedman, deputy president of the Central Council of German Jews. "It is not a question of East and West, of weak social groups. Anti-Semitism has become socially respectable." Academic research and anecdotal evidence appear to back him up. Anti-Jewish jokes are back, talkshow switchboards overheating with callers waiting to get their gripes against Jews off their chests. Polls have recorded a steady rise in anti-Jewish sentiment, in parallel with discussions over compensation for Holocaust survivors. Opinions on the lines of "We have already paid the Jews enough" and "Why are they all coming here anyway?" can be heard in everyday conversations. Certainly, from an anti-Semite's viewpoint, there has been an alarming influx of Jews into Germany in the past 10 years. More than 50,000 have arrived from the former Soviet Union, infusing elderly Jewish communities in Berlin, Frankfurt and Düsseldorf with new life. Synagogues are reopening, new schools are sprouting, and there are again kosher restaurants in the big cities. To the majority of Germans, this is cause for joy. But to some, clearly more than just a lunatic fringe, it is a blatant provocation. "Anti-Semitism never went away," Mr Friedman says, "but now it has become more aggressive, open, more violent. They feel more support from the centre of society than before." You cannot get much closer to the centre of society than glitzy Düsseldorf, Germany's fashion capital. A grenade attack at a railway station in July there injured 10 people, including six Jews. Two weeks ago the post brought to Mr Spiegel's Düsseldorf office a mock bomb, and now comes this evidently well-planned attack on the synagogue. Someone is obviously trying to send German Jews a message. ## Could there be a connection to the recent UN Vote? -- Kathleen I never could see anything wrong in sensationalism; and I am sure our society is suffering more from secrecy than from flamboyant revelations. - G. K. Chesterton, ILN, 10/4/19 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
[CTRL] A Document by Cuban Spy Talks of Acts Against C.I.A.
-Caveat Lector- Click Here: A HREF="http://cryptome.org/cuban-op-cia.htm"Cuban Ex-Spy Describes Attacks on CIA/A - 9 October 2000 http://www.nytimes.com/2000/10/08/world/08CUBA.html 8 October 2000 A Document by Cuban Spy Talks of Acts Against C.I.A. By JULIA PRESTON and TIM WEINER 9 October 2000 MEXICO CITY, Oct. 7 When he was arrested by the Mexican government this week, a Cuban spy on the run from his government was carrying a document, parts of which [below] were made public today, in which he outlined his career running operations against the Central Intelligence Agency. The Cuban official, Pedro Riera Escalante, who was summarily deported by Mexico to Havana on Wednesday, served under cover as the Cuban consul here from 1986 through 1991. In the document, he described Cuban espionage operations against the C.I.A. station in Mexico City and other operations he ran in Europe and Africa. His deportation ended his month-long effort to win political asylum in Mexico. Mr. Riera, who had become deeply disillusioned with his president, Fidel Castro, also spoke about his intelligence work in general terms in conversations with The New York Times, with Mexican foreign relations and national security officials with whom he discussed asylum and with human rights advocates who helped him petition for refuge. In the document, excerpts of which were published by the Mexico City newspaper Reforma on Friday, Mr. Riera said that he had recruited scores of Mexican informants, including officials, businessmen, intelligence officers and journalists. Among the successes he claimed was a 1989 operation, code-named "Lupa," or "Magnifying Glass," in which he said he obtained the correspondence of recruited C.I.A. agents in Mexico. Another operation was code-named "Moncada," in which he said he used a renegade C.I.A. officer, Philip Agee, to try to recruit the secretary of the deputy chief of the C.I.A. station in Mexico City. United States intelligence officials have described the operation as a total failure, saying Mr. Agee, who broke publicly with the C.I.A. in the 1970's and is regarded by the agency as a traitor, was quickly identified, and his approach rebuffed. Mr. Agee did not return an e-mail sent to his office in Cuba on Tuesday. Mr. Riera said he had worked with Mr. Agee for years. He said the work began in 1973, when he was a liaison between Mr. Agee and the Cuban Politburo, when Mr. Agee was writing a book exposing C.I.A. secrets. Mr. Riera said that he conveyed suggestions from the government about what information Mr. Agee should disclose in his book. He said telephone numbers for C.I.A. officials in the United States Embassy in Mexico City provided by Mr. Agee proved useful to Cuba years later, when Mr. Riera was posted here, helping him identify which embassy personnel were C.I.A. officers. United States officials have not commented on Mr. Riera's case, other than a statement from the American Embassy in Mexico City expressing concern about his fate in Cuba. After a number of overseas assignments, including one in 1977 in which he said he persuaded President Samora Machel to throw C.I.A. personnel out of Mozambique, Mr. Riera said he was assigned by his bosses in Cuba's General Directorate of Intelligence to draw up a manual to instruct Cuban spies about how best to infiltrate the C.I.A. The manual, "Methodology for Recruitment of C.I.A. Staff Personnel," became a standard training tool for Cuban agents, he said. It demanded personal and psychological profiles of potential recruits to pinpoint weaknesses and vulnerabilities. And it advised using money, not ideology, to lure C.I.A. personnel into collaborating. Mr. Riera was proud of what he regarded as highly effective work by Cuban intelligence against the C.I.A. during his service. He accused Mr. Castro of destroying the Cuban agency by turning it to his political ends. Mr. Riera, who is 49, joined the Cuban directorate as a teenager in 1969, the documents show. He was recalled to Cuba in 1992 and stepped down from active duty a year later, with the rank of major. He remains on reserve. In conversations with The Times, Mr. Riera said that he did not want to seek exile in the United States, but hoped for safe haven in Mexico. Reuters reported today from Havana that Mr. Riera was back in Cuba but his whereabouts were not known. Mexican officials gave conflicting accounts about Mr. Riera's deportation. The Foreign Ministry confirmed that two senior officials there met with Mr. Riera in recent weeks to hear his safe haven request. Foreign Minister Rosario Green said through her spokesman that she turned the matter over to the Interior Ministry, which handles both national security and immigration. But José Ángel Pescador Osuna, the Interior Ministry's top official for immigration, said today that he had heard nothing about Mr. Riera from the Foreign Ministry
Re: [CTRL] Hillary, Lazio Fall for Hoax
-Caveat Lector- I have long wondered about this story but being familiar with HB and SB and HR and SR, I knew of no bills ending with a P. Wonder if this was not a billl introduced in anotther country, possibly Canada - and forwarded on internet without location of government in question. Funniest one was when they said we would have to use a postage stamp to send letter on web. But this story floats about and if Mrs. Clinton and Lazio did not know that was a phoney, and if they knew it was a P bill - shame on them - but if the person who asked question did not give bill number ending in the P they could have fallen for it. Regardless when you see Yahoo and AOL merge without much opposition and see the hidden meanings, you see soon they will operate like the telephone company - everybody suckered in with expensive computers and will soon pay very expensive bills to run same. Me, I stay with my Web TV - for $19.95 a month up to $20.00 something (lightning just took my other modem) it is a good buy and I can live without it - One thing nice Mrs. Clinton has stopped smiling over and smirking at every word Lazio says - he finally got her attention, or someone told her she was NO JFK..the cameras once caught JFK when he was smiling once - when Nixon was complaining about Harry Truman's language he used (such language, and it is said Mrs. Truman said forget it, she would have to teach him to say manure again)anyway, JFK was not laughing at Nixon he was smiling they said, as if anyone could imagine him calling up Harry and saying Harry, watch your language. So what an election; I still got five votes...who shall I waste them on? A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hetro Scout Shenanigans!
-Caveat Lector- June, You may be right. The explanation of Craig concerning dynamic/opportunistic seems to fit better with what I have observed of human nature. even when I was still doing activities with my children, two adults were required at all times possible for legal reasons in almost all youth groups. I think some parents are concerned that the scouts emulate the Scout Master and many mainstream religions oppose homosexual lifestyles. I think usually parents are the Scout Masters anyway. Hopefully the BSA will survive this. A lot of good has come from that organization over the years. Amelia - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hetro Scout Shenanigans! -Caveat Lector- From: "Amelia" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have asked this question before and never got an answer, just bashed, so I will try asking it a different way. Some time back a man was arrested for the sexual battery of his 4 year old stepdaughter while his wife was at the hospital giving birth to his own natural child. This man is obviously heterosexual thence the wife giving birth but yet he raped and sodomized a small child so does that make him a pedophile only? I really do not understand this. Both homos and heteros commit acts of pedophilia. Do you mean that over-rides their other sexual orientation Yes. and if so, why and what determines which category into which they belong? Let me ask you this: do you consider this man representative of all adult heterosexual men? If not, then an argument can not be made that a male pedophile who sexually molests boys is representative of all adult homosexual men. Some pedophiles have adult partners. That does not change the fact that they are pedophiles, which puts them in a separate category than the rank and file of adult heterosexuals or adult homosexuals. In the case you mention, the man is a pedophile, plain and simple, one who just happens to have an adult partner. That his partner happens to be of the opposite sex does not make him any more a normal heterosexual than if his partner was of the same sex would make him a normal homosexual. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Netwar in Bolivia: Banzer Shuts Internet Access
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Alberto M. Giordano" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:00 PM Subject: [narconews] Netwar in Bolivia: Banzer Shuts Internet Access -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/3/_/_/_/971197214/ -_- Today's Press Briefing October 10, 2000 Netwar in Bolivia Banzer Regime Cuts Phone, Radio, and Internet Access from Conflict Zone Coca Growers Declare Chapare to be a "Free Trade Area" Act of War: In Violation of International Law, Water Supplies and Electricity Are Also Shut Down Narco News Analysis: From Chiapas 1994 to Bolivia 2000, "it's Deja Vu all over again." The Zapatista uprising in Mexico -- still going -- combined the demand for autonomy of indigenous peoples with high-tech weapons of communications. The internet entered the popular struggle. Today, in Bolivia, despite efforts by Associated Press and other mass media to supress the news, the internet has broken the blockade. The regime of dictator-turned-"president" Hugo Banzer is so worried that the Indians are using the Internet that he has shut down all phone, internet and radio access to and from the region. The demand is the same as in Chiapas: Autonomy. And the rhetoric by the US and Bolivian governments about "freedom of the press" proves hollow when tested. Narco News will continue to break the blockade. Today, fresh reports out of Bolivia, where the peasants are taking up arms to defend the ancient tradition of coca cultivation so feared by the United States government and its hypocritical drug war. http://www.narconews.com/pressbriefing.html From somewhere in a country called América, Al Giordano Publisher The Narco News Bulletin http://www.narconews.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] For The Record - Grabbe withdraws comments
As of about 2 AM this morning, less than an hour after I sent my response to him, J. Orlin Grabbe had removed every reference to my story from his web site. His comments and jpeg posting of FTW's story had all been taken down from his site without a trace. This was noticed by FTW subscriber George Williamson, himself no stranger to the story, who has maintained that the FTW Promis story is very solid and breaks new ground. George should know, he is an award winning former reporter from "The San Francisco Chronicle" who has covered the story far longer than I have. He too has met, known and survived his own passages with Promis and the people involved with it over the years. Mike Ruppert www.copvcia.com -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/16/_/475667/_/971197080/"BClick Here!/B/A -_-
[CTRL] FROM THE FILES OF RABBI EDGAR F. MAGNIN IN THE YEARS BEFORE WW II
-Caveat Lector- from: http://newsmakingnews.com/ Click Here: A HREF="http://newsmakingnews.com/"NewsMakingNews Secret Connections Covert Operat /A - THE BAYCITIES OBSERVER Virginia McCullough "Have I missed the mark, or, like a true archer, do I strike my mark? Or am I a prophet of lies, a babbler from door to door?" Cassandra, as reported by Agamemnon © 2000 Virginia McCullough. All Rights Reserved. Use only with written permission. FROM THE FILES OF RABBI EDGAR F. MAGNIN IN THE YEARS BEFORE WW II Part One The great researcher, Mae Brussell, grew up in the shadow of her father, Rabbi Edgar F. Magnin. Rabbi Magnin joined the staff of the Temple B'nai B'rith in Los Angeles in 1915 and became its senior rabbi in 1919. He remained in that position until his death on July 17, 1984. In 1929 the Temple moved to 3663 Wilshire Boulevard and became known as The Wilshire Boulevard Temple. Two years before his death this temple was dedicated to Robbi Magnin. He was often called the "Rabbi to the stars" because of his close association with the Hollywood community. When the Rabbi died, Mae Brussell added many of her father's files and books to her massive collection. Rabbi Magnin's file contents are a window into the years before the world found itself engulfed in the terror of World War II. One yellowed newspaper clipping might well be confused with today's news stories. The subject matter is the Jewish National Home and Palestine. CONGRESS ACCEPTS JEWISH AGENCY BY A MAJORITY VOTE Constitution put to a vote paragraph by paragraph in all night session. Weizmann policy proves victorious Final step still to be taken by a roll call of 322 delegates ZURICH, (J.T.A.) The "Jewish Agency" which, by the vote just taken by the Sixteenth Zionist Congress will be extended to include non-Zionist Jews, as well as Zionists, is the legal term in post-war international law for the Jewish public body which has been granted certain defined rights and privileges in relation to Palestine by the League of Nations and the British government. This body derives its authority from the Mandate given by the League of Nations to the Government of Great Britain for the administration of the territory of Palestine, the Mandatory power being responsible for "placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish National Home." To assist the Palestine government in this task, in accordance with the Balfour Declaration and the preamble to the Palestine Mandate in which the "historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine" was given official recognition by the Allied Powers following the World War, this special Jewish body was recognized. Up to the vote of the Congress to enlarge the Agency, the Zionist Organization, having its headquarters in London and Jerusalem, was recognized by the British Government as the Jewish Agency, which enjoys the rights and privileges outlined in Article IV of the Palestine Mandate. Article IV defines these rights with the following words: "An appropriate public Jewish agency shall be shall be organized as a public body for the purpose of advising and cooperating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish National Home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine, and, subject always to the control of the Administration, to assist and take part in the development of the country." The same Article IV of the Mandate confers upon the Zionist Organization recognition as the Jewish Agency and provides for the possibility of its extension to include non-Zionists. The second paragraph of Article IV says: "The Zionists organization and constitution are in the opinion of the Mandatory appropriate, shall be recognized as such agency. It shall take steps in consultation with His Britannic Majestic Government to secure the cooperation of all Jews who are willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish National Home." The Mandate was approved by the Council of the League of Nations on July 24, 1922. In advance of this date, on June 30, 1922, the movement for the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine as defined in the Balfour Declaration and in the Mandate, was concurred in a resolution by the House of Representatives of the United States, although the United States was not a member of the League of Nations and not a party in the allocation of the Mandate. On July 15, the United States Senate concurred in this resolution, and it was approved by President Harding. Dr. Chaim Weizmann, as president of the World Zionist Organization, following the adoption of resolutions in June 1923 by the American Zionist convention held in Pittsburgh, Pa., and by the Thirteenth Zionist Congress held in Carlsbad In August, 1923, favoring the extension of the Jewish Agency,
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- --- Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucille Ball for instance, was picking up radio communications..might add she had been brought before House of Unamerican Activities but it was her grandfathre who was a communist - but Dezi Arnez had mob connections Desi said of Lucy at the time: "The only red thing about Lucy is her hair, and even that is not real!" __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] RadTimes # 65
-Caveat Lector- RadTimes # 65 - October, 2000 An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities. "We're living in rad times!" --- Contents: --- --In the Aftermath of Seattle: Backlash Reigns --Philadelphia Protesters Trusted Wrong Volunteer --Withering Democracy --Protest Against the Trans Atlantic Business Dialogue --Security Detail Linked stories: *The Right To Radio --- Begin stories: --- In the Aftermath of Seattle: Backlash Reigns http://www.foreignpolicy-infocus.org/progresp/vol4/prog4n37.html By Tom Barry Although the violence in Seattle was widely condemned by citizen leaders, much of the rhetoric used by these same leaders fosters a violent backlash. Clearly, the militancy of the demonstrations has successfully focused media--and to some degree public--attention on the institutions of global economic governance. There is also growing recognition by global leaders that the negative impacts of globalization need to be addressed. Seeing this success, antiglobalization groups have adopted "shut it down" strategies at international meetings of globalization forums and institutions. The hope was that successive Seattle-modeled protests would delegitimize the institutions of global governance and draw in greater numbers of disaffected citizen groups, coalescing them into a truly international movement that can turn around globalization. The analysts associated with this movement often lend intellectual support to the anarchist backlash on the streets. In his recent book, American University professor Robin Hahnel, a frequent contributor to Z magazine, writes: "We must act like Lilliputian Luddites first and stop corporate-sponsored globalization by any means necessary." For many in the antiglobalization movement, this campaign against globalization is the defining struggle of our era--a life and death struggle that requires all means necessary to stop corporate forces. One possibility is that such a backlash movement could indeed be successful at undermining the credibility and legitimacy of current institutions. In the process of stressing the importance of national sovereignty and local development, such a movement may also help build a global consensus against all forms of global governance--a frightening scenario. Another possibility is that the media and public will grow weary of street demonstrations of disaffected youth, the message of the reformers will be lost in the cacophony of street battles, and the concerns and positive agendas of the antiglobalization coalition will be dismissed. In the aftermath of DC, Melbourne, and Prague, it is time to ask what the agenda of this movement is with respect to multilateral global governance. The movement makes reference to the power of the U.S. Treasury and the Washington-to-Wall Street axis of power in corporate-led globalization. But the protests have focused not on America's central role, but on the institutions of multilateral governance that include most of the world's governments. In the U.S., this anti-global governance strategy has great resonance with those among the left and the right who appeal to the sanctity of national sovereignty. One of the most striking inconsistencies among progressives is their ambivalent embrace of multilateralism. In the political/security arena, multilateralism is supported as the only viable method for advancing international peace and security. Multilateralism in the form of the UN is strongly supported, and unilateralism by the U.S. is consistently condemned. The citizen movements focusing on global economic issues make no such principled declaration in support of multilateral governance, however. The political leaders of other nations, like those of the U.S., are regarded to be the servants of corporate and elite rule. When making the critique that the current governance institutions are incapable of reform, many global economy activists do not at the same time assert that some form of multilateral economic governance is fundamentally important. The succession this year of attempts to shut down the multilateral institutions should raise serious questions about just where the global economy movement is going. --- Philadelphia Protesters Trusted Wrong Volunteer He drove them right into custody October 1, 2000, Philadelphia Inquirer by Craig R. McCoy and Linda K. Harris With police helicopters swooping overhead, the protesters dashed in twos and threes to the waiting van. The 1995 Ford Econoline sped off, bound for Center City. Nervous and full of energy, the
Re: [CTRL] RC question..... was Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death
-Caveat Lector- I was surprised to learn from the first survivor of 'satanic ritual abuse' I met that her Jewish family's cult reversed the practices of Judaism. To date, this is the only survivor I've met whose satanic abuse was not in some way a bastardization of Christianity. Samantha In a message dated 10/9/00 7:30:16 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only thing I can tell you is that the rituals Satanists use are taken verbatim from the Roman Catholic mass, but as I said, turned upside down and inside out...so you have a mass, replete with high priest offering a host, etc. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Satanisme in the Vatican
In Italy a book "Via col vento in Vaticanp"(Gone with the wind in the Vatican) by I. Millenari was published last year. It stated, that it was common practise whenever a a clergyman was caught having sexual relations, with women or men, orpaedofile relations with boys or girls, that instead of being demoted, he was usually promoted. This indicates, that it is preferred to have someone in higher positions, who can be blackmailed, or that wicked persons are wanted in high places. The book also tells, how the vaticans prime minister and former ambassador to Chile, cardinal Angelo Sodano admired Augusto Pinochet and in1998 took diplomatic steps to prevent Pinochet from being extradited to Spain for prosecution. TheOpus Dei order ismentioned as a powerfull organization, which is a mix of a monastic and a masonic order. But the sensation is the claim of secret satanic mass being conducted in the Vatican, where particpants wear a sort of Ku Klux Klan robe, and are naked under that. Thisis similar to the satanic shapeshifter ceremonies David Icke has reported in "The Biggest Secret." Love, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark
Re: [CTRL] calof vs noah
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find a recent court decision Sincerely, Neil Brick "Court of Appeals Division I - State of Washington - Opinion Information Sheet - Docket Number: 41241-8-I - Title of Case: David L. Calof, Respondent v. Charles "chuck" Noah, Et. al., Appellants ... 09/11/2000, SOURCE OF APPEAL, Superior Court of King County, Docket No: 95-2-15224-4, Noah and Casebeer were involved in activities protesting Calof's work in repressed memory recovery. Calof secured an antiharassment order against Noah. Noah was found in contempt for violating the antiharassment order. Noah challenges the antiharassment order and his conviction for contempt on the grounds it violated First Amendment rights including free speech, the right to picket, and the right to photograph Calof in public. We hold an antiharassment order may place enforceable limits of First Amendment rights as needed to enforce the no contact provisions of the order. We affirm the antiharassment order and his conviction for contempt. Calof sued Casebeer and others for defamation and other injuries. Casebeer and others entered voluntarily and knowingly into a mediated settlement agreement. Casebeer repudiated the agreement on the grounds that she could not lawfully contract away First Amendment rights, such as speech and picketing. The trial court held that the agreement was enforceable. We hold that mere enforcement of the agreement does not constitute state action for purposes of constitutional analysis. The agreement is enforceable. We affirm." quote from http://www.courts.wa.gov/opinions/opindisp.cfm?docid=412418MAJ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PBS: What a load of . . . .
-Caveat Lector- From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tis more than an argument but is the truth. The constitution gives no authority to any branch of the government for prohibitional statutes against plants that come from God. The documentary made the point that that was what the first 'drug czar' (sorry, his name now slips me, but he was the one back in the 30s responsible for the first drug laws) tried to avoid...while he was willing to regulate manufactured drugs, he didn't want the federal government getting involved in trying to regulate a naturally growing weed, and predicted that it would be a losing battle if such legislation was passed. Unfortunately, when the southwestern states succeeded in getting the government to pass legislation against marijuana (because those states hoped that the Mexicans emigrating to their states would go back to Mexico when pot was made illegal), this 'drug czar' then swung to the opposite extreme in painting pot as 'the weed whose roots are in hell'... What was interesting was the fact that about 2 or 3 years into this demonization campaign (wherein we gained such film classics as "Reefer Madness" et al), Mayor La Guardia of NYC decided to form his own commission to study the supposed inunudation of schoolyards with dealers turning America's youth into potheads...he used the feds own studies, indeed he used the feds own pot to have his own labs test the effects of pot... And came to the conclusion that the feds were full of shit. His commission worded it more politely than that, but they were quite blunt in pointing out that there was absolutely no basis for the claim that America's schoolchildren were at risk, and that the primary users of marijuana at that time were blacks and latinos... Unstated, but implicated, was La Guardia's knowledge that pot use was quite prevalent in Harlem, and the thought perhaps that that was what kept it's residents peaceful and 'in their place'... But the feds soon put the screws to La Guardia, and made it strongly known that he better toe the party line, or else he'd find a cold shoulder in DC when asking for help from the feds in any sort of matter... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Catholic Church apologizes, settles with molestation victims
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find part of a CNN article about a legal settlement. Sincerely, Neil Brick "Catholic Church apologizes, settles with molestation victims - PORTLAND, Oregon (AP) -- The Roman Catholic Church apologized ... for one of the largest claims of clergy sexual abuse and settled a lawsuit with 22 men who said they were molested by a priest as far back as 50 years ago. The plaintiffs charged in their $44 million lawsuit that the Rev. ...enticed them to engage in sexual acts from 1950 to 1974." http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/10/10/priest.sexabuse.ap/index.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NM: Secret Document Showed Yeltsin-Clinton Deal
-Caveat Lector- Newsmax-Inside Cover Tuesday, Oct. 10, 2000 8:50 a.m. EST Secret Document Showed Yeltsin-Clinton Deal NewsMax.com reported this week that former Russian president Boris Yeltsin claims in a new book that the Lewinsky scandal, according to Russian intelligence reports, was nothing more than a planned effort by Republicans to force the removal of Bill Clinton from office. Sounds like Yeltsin has been trying to do some face saving for his friend. This is not the first time Yeltsin has come to Clinton's rescue. Journalist Bill Gertz, in his book Betrayal, reprints a verbatim State Dept. transcript between President Clinton and President Yeltsin, during a meeting the two had in March 1996. Both Yeltsin and Clinton were up for election that year and it was clear that Clinton had only his re-election on his mind. Clinton promised Yeltsin that "he wanted to make sure that everything the United States did would have a positive impact" on the Russian elections. Clinton emphasized that "the main thing is that the two sides not od anything that could harm the other" before the elections. Yeltsin was clearly baffled by Clinton's remarks because of Clinton's big lead in the polls. Clinton said there was still eight months to go before election day. Now Clinton wanted Yeltsin's assurance that there would be no "conflicts." Then Clinton asked that Russia open up its markets to U.S. chickens, telling the Russian president that "about 40% of U.S. poultry is produced in Arkansas." What is clear from the transcript is that Clinton and Yeltsin had a very cozy relationship. Intelligence experts say that the Russians may have had even more information on Clinton, information that could have been used for blackmail. Finding out if this was true could have been easy. The U.S. NSA intercepts most of the coded traffic between the Russian embassy and the Kremlin, as well as traffic sent by other intelligence agencies. This is the area Congress should have explored, asking the NSA and others to turn over all intercepts relating to foreign intelligence reports detailing the President's private life. That was the sleeper issue in the Lewinsky matter, but Congress was too chicken to raise the question. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NM: Clinton Admits He Made Call on Whitewater Prober
-Caveat Lector- Newsmax-Inside Cover Monday October 9, 2000; 11:01 AM EDT Clinton Admits He Made Call on Whitewater Prober For years, defenders of Attorney General Janet Reno's decision not to appoint an outside counsel to investigate the Clinton-Gore Chinagate scandal have argued that she's operating on her own - completely independent of any White House pressure. After all, they say, it's not as if she's shied away from appointing independent counsels in the past. But in an interview with New Yorker magazine on the stands this week, President Clinton admits that it was he, and not Reno, who made the call to appoint an independent counsel for Whitewater, an investigation that was eventually expanded to cover Travelgate, Filegate and the Monica Lewinsky probe. "I did it because I was exhausted, because I had just buried my mother and because I had people in the White House who couldn't stand the heat," Clinton said of his decision to order Reno to make the appointment. "They suggested that I do it, that I had to do it." I had to do it? By law, the attorney general alone is supposed to decide whether an independent investigation is warranted, with no regard whatsoever for political concerns - let alone the wishes of the White House. In his 1996 Whitewater book "Blood Sport," author James Stewart made it clear that Reno had very little say in the appointment that eventualy led to Clinton's impeachment. While the attorney general was arguing in public that any investigator she picked would be hopelessly tainted by a conflict of interest, behind the scenes senior Clinton aides decided that the move would be the quickest way to dispose of the scandal. It was Clinton flack George Stephanopoulos, and not anyone at the Justice Department, who announced the decision to seek an outside counsel, reports Stewart. On Jan. 12, 1994, Reno was forced to reverse her position on a dime. Ten days later she picked New York lawyer Robert Fiske, a friend of White House counsel Bernie Nussbaum, to investigate Whitewater. The Whitewater probe would be the last one sanctioned by the attorney general with the potential to damage the Clintons. Rather than requesting individual independent counsels to probe the Travelgate, Filegate and Sexgate scandals, Reno simply dumped everything on Whitewater investigators - who were eventually overwhelmed by the sheer scope of the Clintons' corruption. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WP: Campaigns' 'Profiling' Stirs Privacy Worries
-Caveat Lector- Campaigns' 'Profiling' Stirs Privacy Worries By John Mintz and Robert O'Harrow Jr. Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, October 10, 2000; Page A01 This Election Day, Republican campaign workers will tape personalized letters on the front doors of thousands of voters in Missouri. People who recently hinted to GOP telephone solicitors a concern about taxes will receive notes highlighting that issue. Others who mentioned guns or homosexuality will get letters on those topics. People whose spotty voting records suggest they need a ride to the polls or a reminder to vote will receive seemingly prescient offers of help. These personal touches are the result of computer software that helps political operatives intuit voters' beliefs and predilections based on data about their income, lifestyles, past electoral participation and other personal information. Taking their cues from the world of direct marketing, candidates and political organizations across the ideological spectrum are harnessing high-tech tools to identify which voters to target with their calls, letters, visits and, increasingly, e-mails. In a neck-and-neck election in which turnout could be crucial, this effort will personalize many politicians' pitches to voters as never before. "I see us on the cusp of a completely new politics, a marriage of old shoe-leather organizing with the high-tech of the Internet age," Ralph Reed, former executive director of the Christian Coalition and now an adviser to Texas Gov. George W. Bush, said of the new computerized targeting. "Many believe that this race is so close, and that the two sides will fight to a draw on TV and in the debates. So it'll come down to the night before the dance, and these techniques could be the major factor." The new technology will be employed not just by candidates but by independent political groups. To locate likely allies beyond its 4 million members, the National Rifle Association buys government and private lists of pickup truck owners, people with hunting licenses, concealed weapons permit holders, gun show exhibitors and outdoor magazine subscribers. This information is fed into computers at NRA headquarters in Fairfax, where officials draw up a "clean" list of people who are not already NRA members and who will be contacted by phone and mail. Using its own carefully culled lists, the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League is reaching out to 2 million Republican and independent women in 15 key states that the group believes will be sympathetic to its cause. It has fashioned profiles of typical pro-choice women, using as a model demographic data that its own members provided, and then seeking out non-members who visit the same Web sites, listen to the same radio stations or read the same newspapers. "We contact the people who look likely to be inclined toward us," said Gloria Totten, the NARAL's political director. "The new technologies allow us to perform the traditional types of politicking we've always done, like going door-to-door and getting people to the polls, much more efficiently and with greater impact." Sensitive Information The trend of data-triggered targeting closely tracks advances in the world of commercial direct marketing, and it offers many of the same benefits, such as crafting messages relevant to individual voters. But political consultants say it also raises many of the same troubling questions about Information Age manipulation, and in the far more sensitive area of supposedly private political beliefs. "It scares the hell out of me," said John Aravosis of Wired Strategies, an Internet consulting firm that advises groups about online marketing. "Political information is per se more sensitive. . . . People have no clue about what these companies do." Even Jerry Baumann, an executive vice president at Map Applications Inc., a company that sells database software to the Missouri GOP, predicted the American public could be unsettled as campaigns find themselves in an escalating race to gather more and more fine-grained data about voters. Politicians "will need to know more about individuals, but the closer they'll come to offending voters' sense of privacy," he said. Many campaigns, like the ones in Missouri, avoid drawing attention to their technological prowess. "They're just very careful they're not blatant about it," he said. Patrick Fusselman, director of information services for the Missouri GOP, agreed, saying it's best to downplay the data prompting a personalized contact. "You're not telling them you know they're pro-life," he said. "You're sending them a pro-life message." Map Applications, which also works with Iowa Republicans among other GOP and conservative groups, can link more than 40 layers of personal data to a voter's name and address, and then make sense of it all. The information includes voters' ages along with their children's ages, the value of their homes, whether they have bank
[CTRL] OJ: Mr. Clinton's Army
-Caveat Lector- OpinionJournal.com-October 10, 2000 WRITTEN ON WATER Mr. Clinton's Army The military has suffered through eight years of neglect. BY MARK HELPRIN Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:01 a.m. EDT Many people have come to believe that thinking about war is akin to fomenting it, preparing for it is as unjustifiable as starting it, and fighting it is only unnecessarily prolonging it. History suggests that as a consequence of these beliefs they will bear heavy responsibility for the defeat of American arms on a battlefield and in a theater of war as yet unknown. Theirs are the kind of illusions that lead to a nation recoiling in shock and frustration, to the terrible depression of its spirits, the gratuitous encouragement of its enemies, and the violent deaths of thousands or tens of thousands, or more, of those who not long before were its children. They will bear this responsibility along with contemporaries who are so enamored of the particulars of their well-being that they have made the government a kindly nurse of households, a concierge and cook, never mind a resurgent Saddam Hussein or China's rapid development of nuclear weapons. They will bear it along with the partisans of feminist and homosexual groups who see the military as a tool for social transformation. And they will bear it with a generation of politicians who have been guilty of willful neglect merely for the sake of office. So many fatuous toadies have been put in place in the military that they will undoubtedly pop up like toast to defend Vice President Gore's statement that "if our servicemen and -women should be called on to risk their lives for the sake of our freedoms and ideals, they will do so with the best training and technology the world's richest country can put at their service." This is an abject lie. To throw light on the vice president's assertion that all is well, consider that in Kosovo 37,000 aerial sorties were required to destroy what Gen. Wesley Clark claimed were 93 tanks, 53 armored fighting vehicles, and 389 artillery pieces; that these comprised, respectively, 8%, 7%, and 4% of such targets, leaving the Yugoslav army virtually intact; and that impeccable sources in the Pentagon state that Yugoslav use of decoys put the actual number of destroyed tanks, for example, in the single digits. To achieve with several hundred sorties of $50-million airplanes the singular splendor of destroying a Yugo, the United States went without carriers in the Western Pacific during a crisis in Korea, and the Air Force tasked 40% of its intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance assets, and 95% of its regular and 65% of its airborne tanker force, in what the chief of staff called a heavier strain than either the Gulf War or Vietnam. One reason for the "inefficiency" of Operation Allied Force is that this very kind of farce is funded by cannibalizing operations and maintenance accounts. Such a thing would not by itself be enough to depress the services as they are now depressed. That has taken eight years of magnificent neglect. Case in point: The U.S. Navy now focuses on action in the littorals, and must deal with a burgeoning inventory of increasingly capable Third World coastal submarines that find refuge in marine layers and take comfort from the Navy's near century of inapplicable blue-water antisubmarine warfare. But our budget for surface-ship torpedo defense will shortly dip from not even $5 million, to nothing in 2001. The reduction of the military budget to two-thirds of what it was (in constant dollars) in 1985, and almost as great a cut in force levels, combined with systematic demoralization, scores of "operations other than war," and the synergistic breakdown that so often accompanies empires in decline and bodies wracked by disease, have produced a tidal wave of anecdotes and statistics. Twenty percent of carrier-deployed F-14s do not fly, serving as a source of spare parts instead. Forty percent of Army helicopters are rated insufficient to their tasks. Half of the Army's gas masks do not work. Due to reduced flying time and training opportunities within just a few years of Bill Clinton's first inauguration, 84% of F-15 pilots had to be waived through 38 categories of flight training. The pilot of the Osprey in the December 1999 crash that killed 19 Marines had only 80 hours in the aircraft, and the pilot who sliced the cables of the Italian aerial tram in 1998, killing 20, had not flown a low-altitude training flight for seven months. It goes on and on, and as the sorry state of the military becomes known, the administration responds by doing what it does best. In the manner of Gen. Clark presenting as a success the--exaggerated--claim of having destroyed 8% of the Yugoslav tank forces in 78 days of bombing, the administration moved to "restructure" the six armored and mechanized divisions by shrinking force levels 15% and armor 22%, while expanding the divisional battle sector by 250%, the idea
[CTRL] NM: Tripp Deserves Medal of Freedom
-Caveat Lector- Newsmax.com Tripp Deserves Medal of Freedom By Jack Thompson Monday, Oct. 9, 2000 Word now comes from former Russian President Boris Yeltsin in his soon-to-be-released autobiography, "Midnight Diaries," that Russian intelligence in 1996 told him of Clinton's penchant for sex with lovely young ladies. Yeltsin further claims that he was told that the Republicans would put a young lady on the White House staff to seduce the president in order to imperil his incumbency. The second part of this the part fingering the GOP is to be doubted because: a) this is the party that couldn't even conduct a trial in the Senate, let alone arrange a seduction; and b) putting a woman in Clinton's way is a bit like putting a straw in a glass of water for a man who has been lost in the desert. It's not really necessary. But if the first part of the tale is true, that a foreign power's intelligence apparatus knew of what we now know, by virtue of the Lewinsky affair, to be the security-breach-waiting-to-happen of this reckless president, then there is one person on the entire planet who deserves the eternal thanks of all the American people, including the president and the first lady of the United States. Her name is Linda Tripp. By alerting independent counsel Kenneth Starr, the United States Congress, and the American people to the dangerous philandering of Bill Clinton dangerous most significantly because it exposed this president and thus all its citizens to blackmail Linda Tripp served the best interests of her country well. We now know that Clinton lied under oath, suborned perjury and obstructed justice to hide from the American people the details of an affair that every person with a pulse knew or should have known was true within days of its reportage on the Internet. One must ask, in light of what Yeltsin is now plausibly saying, the following: How far would Bill Clinton have gone how much would he have been willing to give up, clandestinely, to a foreign power which threatened him with revealing to the world an affair with an intern that it did not know about? To quote Mr. Rogers: "Can you say, 'Everything?' " This was the nightmare scenario America avoided: A hostile government, such as China, tells a blackmailable president that he must, for example, allow the invasion of Taiwan, or it will give the world, through back channels, the details of his affair with an intern. What would this president do? Are you kidding? Again, he shredded the Constitution to hide something we intuited must be true, given the details that we learned daily. The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the nation's highest honor available to any citizen, given to one person, who, despite the cost, makes an incalculable contribution to his or her nation's freedom. There is no person, in the last decade, who deserves this honor more than the woman who, despite the sacrifices by herself and her family, risked all, including personal safety, to deliver the United States of America from blackmail at the hands of a foreign power. That person is Linda Tripp. This president will not, of course, award her this honor she deserves. Nor will the next president, nor will any president. But deserve it she does. Linda Tripp, the target of jokes from moral midgets, deserves this and any other medal anyone can think of minting for her. Linda Tripp served her country well. She identified a domestic enemy of our freedom. He was living in the White House. He deserves our contempt. She deserves our eternal thanks. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
[CTRL] New York Times Vs.Wen Ho Lee
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Re: [CTRL] NM: Tripp Deserves Medal of Freedom
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/10/00 5:40:10 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Word now comes from former Russian President Boris Yeltsin in his soon-to-be-released autobiography, "Midnight Diaries," that Russian intelligence in 1996 told him of Clinton's penchant for sex with lovely young ladies. Yeltsin further claims that he was told that the Republicans would put a young lady on the White House staff to seduce the president in order to imperil his incumbency. The second part of this â the part fingering the GOP â is to be doubted because: ...because NewsMax is in bed with the GOP and rarely if ever exposes THEIR scandals or gossip. Linda Tripp, the target of jokes from moral midgets, deserves this and any other medal anyone can think of minting for her. Linda Tripp served her country well. She identified a domestic enemy of our freedom. He was living in the White House. He deserves our contempt. She deserves our eternal thanks. Sure...she deserves to never be trusted again...and methinks that's highly likely. She'll rot away without any true friends...too bloody bad. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Alquds Intefada UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- Alquds Intefada UPDATE every 30 min. 10/10/2000 http://sis.gov.ps/arabic/quds/quds_eng_update13.html = Time: 14:00PM The occupation forces shot at a coach carrying passengers belongs to Bani Naiem Coach Company in Aljalajel area. The attack inflicted damages on the bus and the occupation soldiers detained the passengers for several hours. The occupation soldiers attempted to enter Ghanimat locality in Sorief town along with settlers. Violent clashes took place. Tens of settlers this morning repeated their attacks against northern side of Halhool city. Settlers and occupation forces attacked girls' school in Beth Anoun area at southern entrance of Sair town. Rafah area, the youth Mahmoud Basil Baroud was shot in his main vein of his left thigh Time: 12:00 Mass demonstration estimated in thousands from Jabalia area is heading to Irez checkpoint. Since early morning violent clashes in Rafah resulted in four casualties among Palestinian youth. Violent clashes are continued at Alshohada junction 12:30PM Israeli army fires unknown and unfamiliar bullets at demonstrators near Kfar Darom settlement. One Palestinian youth was reported shot there. The doctors could not identify the type of the bullets used by the Israeli army. Violent clashes are going on at Alshohada junction. Mass procession organized by Alfateh movement that includes more than five hundred armed militants. The procession is heading towards the confrontation points in Nablus. 13:30PM The youth Sami Abujazar, 12 years old from Rafah area was shot badly in the head. He is now in intensive care unit at Alshefa Hospital. The violent clashes in Rafah area resulted in five new casualties today. Late at Yesterday, the Jewish settlers attacked Howara village causing severe damages to the villages properties. Time: 11:30 Violent confrontations are renewed Sorief village, Hebron. The likely general strike in Nazereth has been suspended while all parts of the city are witnessing tension. Last night the second building in Al-Shuhada junction in Gaza was bombed and demolished. Last night, Rockets were fired from settlements at Palestinian homes in Hebron. The attack destroyed ten houses and nine youths sustained different injuries. This early morning Hassan Baik mosque in Jafa area suffered a second attempt to set ablaze by the settlers. Some villages in Salfiet Governorates last evening and till late hour witnessed violent clashes against Israeli occupation forces and groups of settlers. The youth Jamal Ali Abu Ya'qoob from Kefel Haress was shot in the leg and the youth Mohammed Ahed Al Sukary from Jama'een village was also shot in the leg. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] David Icke + Gaia Anti-Christ and the Ex-Files: A Trawl through the Cultic Milieu
- Original Message - From: "Ole Gerstrøm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:47 PM Subject: [CTRL] Sv: [CTRL] David Icke -Caveat Lector- Johannes Schmidt III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh. If you have a spare $50, or a very broad-minded public library, try reading through The Truth Will Set You Free. The scholarship on his website is something else. They published as fact an article written some years ago in a gaming magazine about the 'Serpent People' of ancient Lemuria who still walk among us. The article in question was for a role-playing game, which seems to have evaded the researcher's notice. I don't know if Icke himself posted it there, but I'm sure he would be aware of it. Shyte $50 BUCKS for that pile of CRAP!!! Imagine all the toilet paper you could BUY with $50.00!!!The difference being, that the latter at least performs a VALUABLE and hygienic service!!! Icke has more HEADLESS CHOOKS in his mentally castrated sheople menagerie of sycophantic votaries than COLONEL SANDERS could've dreamed of to fill his Kentucky FRIED CHOOK production-line outlets!!! Gaia Anti-Christ and the Ex-Files: A Trawl through the Cultic Milieu Damian Thompson - Kingston University At the end of 1995 the radical Jewish magazine New Moon printed a long and disturbing news feature under the inspired headline "The Icke Man Cometh". The article, billed as a "special investigation", began as follows: "It is has been hard in recent years to ignore the popularity of almost everything that comes under the heading New Age. Yoga, meditation, Kabbalah, Buddhism, alternative medicine, environmentalism, self-improvement and New Age therapies have all gained in popularity, as have all other fringe interests like UFOS and the paranormal. But during the past year, a dark side to the New Age message of sweetness and light has become increasingly clear." According to the authors of the piece, Matthew Kalman and John Murray, a small number of influential New Age leaders are embracing conspiracy theories which are heavily influenced by the racist ideology of the far right. The article singled out David Icke, the former Coventry City goalkeeper and BBC sports commentator whose public declaration in 1990 that he was a son of God, and henceforth would dress only in turquoise, furnished the media with perhaps the most hilarious news story of the year. Well, you can stop laughing, said Kalman and Murray: for in the course of his eccentric spiritual pilgrimage, David Icke has turned into a fully fledged New Age Nazi. Kalman and Murray went on to quote from a book published by Icke in 1994 called The Robot's Rebellion in which his well-established Green views are overlaid by a fantastical tapestry of far-right conspiracy theories. Icke's villains are Jews, Freemasons, bankers, the FBI, the gun control lobby and aliens; indeed, he describes "Jehovah, the vengeful God of the Jews" as "quite possibly an extra-terrestrial." The Robot's Rebellion sold so well in New Age circles that it went into three editions; a year later Icke followed it up with a book called ...and the truth shall set you free, advertised as "the most explosive book of the 20th century", in which he proclaims that "almost every major negative event of global significance has been part of the same plan by the All-Seeing Eye cult to take over the planet via a centralised world government, central bank, currency [Eurosceptics please note] and army." Icke also describes this cult as "the Illuminati" and "the Brotherhood", but it soon becomes clear that he is most interested in its incarnation as "a global Jewish clique". Icke's antisemitism is of an exotic variety, increasingly well entrenched on the far right, which in addition to blaming the Jews for the First World War and the Russian Revolution, also holds them responsible for the worst excesses of Third Reich, including the Holocaust. Icke accuses Jewish bankers of funding Hitler's rise to power; he urges his readers to take Holocaust revisionism seriously; and explains how anti-semitic persecution is the creation of "thought patterns in the collective Jewish mind... They expect it; they create it." Kalman and Murray's purpose in writing their article, which they followed up with a cover story in the New Statesman, was not just to expose the egregious Icke as a Neo-Nazi. Their point was that his views are representative of a significant strand of thought on the New Age movement. In his books, Icke enthusiastically plugs and Australian New Age magazine called Nexus which carries article by US militia leaders and dabbles in Holocaust revisionism; its circulation is 130,000, more than four times that of the New Statesman. Compare, too, Icke's distinctive brand of antisemitism with an article in the British New Age journal Rainbow Ark on the subject of modern Israel. "When a person has a strong hatred of another
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Alltel in the Mortgage market - More response to Grabbe
More for Grabbe: Will Kris or someone please forward the attached to Mr. Grabbe, since I do not have his e-mail. In his attack on me he also stated that Alltel was just a phone company in Arkansas. Since he is in retreat in his vicious and unfounded attacks I think he should stay there for a while, where he belongs. I believe my statements and suspicions are thoroughly supported that Stephens controlled Promis is part of a rigged financial system that is looting trillions of dollars from HUD and that Alltel, Stephens, Inc and Systematics were and are a part of that fraud. Mike Ruppert Publisher Editor "From The Wilderness" www.copvcia.com www.suppressedwriters.com http://www.mortgageuniverse.com/alltelmd/home.stm Release Date: November 7, 1997 For additional information contact: Michelle Kersch, Marketing Consultant (904) 854-5043 ALLTEL TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR FANNIE MAE JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - ALLTEL has entered an agreement with Fannie Mae (FNM/NYSE), the nation's largest source of home mortgage funds, to develop automation which will give users of ALLTEL's Mortgage Servicing Package (MSP) the ability to use Fannie Mae's Risk Profiler, a new loss mitigation tool. ALLTEL clients will be able to select the loans in the MSP system they would like scored. Once scored in Fannie Mae's RiskProfiler, these ratings will be sent to the MSP system and ALLTEL will provide the client with a standard report set. Risk Profiler establishes a risk profile on a loan before it becomes delinquent. By identifying loans with the greatest risk of default, servicers are able to target higher risk loans for concentrated workout efforts and reduce the amount of time spent on lower risk delinquencies. ALLTEL clients will have the ability to target collection and loss mitigation activities based on the results of Fannie Mae's Risk Profiler. "This agreement creates a winning situation for all parties," said Joe Sakole, director of Credit Policy at Fannie Mae. "ALLTEL is providing another way to help its customers meet their business needs through easy access to Fannie Mae's Risk Profiler." Darlene LeGrand, product manager at ALLTEL, said, "This is a very exciting time for the mortgage industry. The programming that is taking place as a result of this agreement will facilitate communication and make it easier for our clients to use Risk Profiler. As a result, our clients will have the ability to manage delinquent loans in a more efficient manner. This is another value-added function ALLTEL is making available to its clients." ALLTEL is the leader in the mortgage loan automation industry and the largest U.S. provider of software and processing services to firms servicing residential mortgage loans. The company currently provides loan servicing automation for more than 17 million mortgage loans, with balances exceeding $1.5 trillion. ALLTEL is a customer-focused, information technology company that provides wire line and wireless communications and information services. ### *ALLTEL, NYSE: AT www.ALLTEL.com Copyright (c) 1999 ALLTEL Corporation -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/16/_/475667/_/971216314/"BClick Here!/B/A -_-
[CTRL] David Icke + Gaia Anti-Christ and the Ex-Files: A Trawl through the Cultic Milieu
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Ole Gerstrøm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:47 PM Subject: [CTRL] Sv: [CTRL] David Icke -Caveat Lector- Johannes Schmidt III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh. If you have a spare $50, or a very broad-minded public library, try reading through The Truth Will Set You Free. The scholarship on his website is something else. They published as fact an article written some years ago in a gaming magazine about the 'Serpent People' of ancient Lemuria who still walk among us. The article in question was for a role-playing game, which seems to have evaded the researcher's notice. I don't know if Icke himself posted it there, but I'm sure he would be aware of it. Shyte $50 BUCKS for that pile of CRAP!!! Imagine all the toilet paper you could BUY with $50.00!!! The difference being, that the latter at least performs a VALUABLE and hygienic service!!! Icke has more HEADLESS CHOOKS in his mentally castrated sheople menagerie of sycophantic votaries than COLONEL SANDERS could've dreamed of to fill his Kentucky FRIED CHOOK production-line outlets!!! Gaia Anti-Christ and the Ex-Files: A Trawl through the Cultic Milieu Damian Thompson - Kingston University At the end of 1995 the radical Jewish magazine New Moon printed a long and disturbing news feature under the inspired headline "The Icke Man Cometh". The article, billed as a "special investigation", began as follows: "It is has been hard in recent years to ignore the popularity of almost everything that comes under the heading New Age. Yoga, meditation, Kabbalah, Buddhism, alternative medicine, environmentalism, self-improvement and New Age therapies have all gained in popularity, as have all other fringe interests like UFOS and the paranormal. But during the past year, a dark side to the New Age message of sweetness and light has become increasingly clear." According to the authors of the piece, Matthew Kalman and John Murray, a small number of influential New Age leaders are embracing conspiracy theories which are heavily influenced by the racist ideology of the far right. The article singled out David Icke, the former Coventry City goalkeeper and BBC sports commentator whose public declaration in 1990 that he was a son of God, and henceforth would dress only in turquoise, furnished the media with perhaps the most hilarious news story of the year. Well, you can stop laughing, said Kalman and Murray: for in the course of his eccentric spiritual pilgrimage, David Icke has turned into a fully fledged New Age Nazi. Kalman and Murray went on to quote from a book published by Icke in 1994 called The Robot's Rebellion in which his well-established Green views are overlaid by a fantastical tapestry of far-right conspiracy theories. Icke's villains are Jews, Freemasons, bankers, the FBI, the gun control lobby and aliens; indeed, he describes "Jehovah, the vengeful God of the Jews" as "quite possibly an extra-terrestrial." The Robot's Rebellion sold so well in New Age circles that it went into three editions; a year later Icke followed it up with a book called ...and the truth shall set you free, advertised as "the most explosive book of the 20th century", in which he proclaims that "almost every major negative event of global significance has been part of the same plan by the All-Seeing Eye cult to take over the planet via a centralised world government, central bank, currency [Eurosceptics please note] and army." Icke also describes this cult as "the Illuminati" and "the Brotherhood", but it soon becomes clear that he is most interested in its incarnation as "a global Jewish clique". Icke's antisemitism is of an exotic variety, increasingly well entrenched on the far right, which in addition to blaming the Jews for the First World War and the Russian Revolution, also holds them responsible for the worst excesses of Third Reich, including the Holocaust. Icke accuses Jewish bankers of funding Hitler's rise to power; he urges his readers to take Holocaust revisionism seriously; and explains how anti-semitic persecution is the creation of "thought patterns in the collective Jewish mind... They expect it; they create it." Kalman and Murray's purpose in writing their article, which they followed up with a cover story in the New Statesman, was not just to expose the egregious Icke as a Neo-Nazi. Their point was that his views are representative of a significant strand of thought on the New Age movement. In his books, Icke enthusiastically plugs and Australian New Age magazine called Nexus which carries article by US militia leaders and dabbles in Holocaust revisionism; its circulation is 130,000, more than four times that of the New Statesman. Compare, too, Icke's distinctive brand of antisemitism with an article in the British New Age journal Rainbow Ark on the subject of modern Israel. "When a person has a strong hatred of another race," it says, "their higher self often
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So an important scar such as this, how could doctors miss this one.then I thought of Jonestown - my friend with MI6 told me way back in 1979 that many of these people had implants behind their ears... For once (and surprisingly), I'm taking a post of Aleisha's seriously... ;-) Aleisha, do you know whether these supposed implants were put behind the left or the right ear, or didn't it matter? The reason I ask is that I had a very strange thing happen with my ear back in 1978. One day I experienced a severe, intense, sharp pain behind my ear, next to my skull. I actually thought I'd been shot, but there had been no sound and no shattered glass (I was in the car), and I wasn't bleeding. When I got home I looked in the mirror, and at first there didn't seem to be anything wrong. But the back of my ear was still hurting, and when I pushed my hair aside and bent my earlobe foward, I saw the whole back of my ear, and a portion of the skull right by the ear, was severely bruised. But the front of my ear displayed no bruising, no injury whatsoever... I had that bruise weeks...and to this day can think of no rational explanation for what could have caused that injury, that wouldn't have also shown on the front of the ear... Perhaps an exploding implant? ;-) ...now this was over 20 years ago and from some of this Mkultra stuff, etc., I wonder..people have been known to pick up radio communications in teeth which had been filled It doesn't happen so much any more, because they've changed the materials used for fillings. No radio transmitter in my teeth, but back in Feb. 1991 I was run down while crossing the street...no broken bones, but many months of therapy for a slipped disk... This was during the height of the Gulf War, and about a week after the accident it dawned on me I'd stopped listening to the radio or my tapes in the car during my commutes to and from work...I had an hour or more drive one way, and I'd always listened to music to pass the time... But without thinking about it, immediately after the accident I'd stopped...and at first I didn't understand why, and then I realized that for a good portion of my commute, I was somehow picking up in my head what sounded like shortwave radio broadcasts, most in what sounded like Middle Eastern languages, occasionally the BBC and Radio Moscow... No disembodied voices claiming to be God or anything, the effect was of someone 'surfing' the shortwave spectrum, and somehow I was picking it up without needing any electronic equipment... One day at the end of hydrotherapy, me and my fellow therapy recipients started talking about the various things we'd experienced after our various accidents, things that none of us were willing to discuss with our doctors...and turns out almost everyone else mentioned having had at least on one occasion after their accident having experienced this 'psychic radio' phenomenon... And it dawned on me that I only experienced this in the car, not at home and not at work...or rather, that the 'sound' was very faded at work. But it would get stronger and stronger when I was driving home, getting its strongest at what was generally the half-way point of my commute, then getting softer and softer and finally becoming silent a few miles from my home. The process was reversed when I drove to work, again getting the strongest at the half-way point of my commute, and gradually fading (but not getting completely silent, but drowned out in a soft "white noise") when I reached worked (at that time I worked in downtown Hartford, in a building housing a local TV station, so I suspect all the electronics in my building counteracted all the other sounds)... I later found out that the area where I was hearing this 'shortwave scanning' the loudest is where the Air National Guard have a base that includes state-of-the-art radio equipment, and that indeed the base was used during the Gulf War to monitor radio transmissions from the Mideast and from our allied nations (probably also monitoring what non-allied nations like Russia were reporting)... Anyway, as my therapy progressed and I got better, this 'psychic radio' faded and finally disappeared. Now if I want to listen to the radio, shortwave or regular, I have to turn on and tune in a regular radio just like everyone else... ;-) - Lucille Ball for instance, was picking up radio communications..might add she had been brought before House of Unamerican Activities but it was her grandfathre who was a communist She was a card-carrying one, too...she admitted it, explaining that she'd signed up in the 1930s in the height of the Depression, just like almost everyone else in Hollywood had at that time, too...it was considered 'the thing' to do, before all of Stalin's atrocities came to light... time..Ball, I think, was involved in something...who knows when it
[CTRL] Kalman + Murray Lies about NEXUS/David Icke
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Ole Gerstrøm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:47 PM Subject: [CTRL] Sv: [CTRL] David Icke -Caveat Lector- Johannes Schmidt III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh. If you have a spare $50, or a very broad-minded public library, try reading through The Truth Will Set You Free. The scholarship on his website is something else. They published as fact an article written some years ago in a gaming magazine about the 'Serpent People' of ancient Lemuria who still walk among us. The article in question was for a role-playing game, which seems to have evaded the researcher's notice. I don't know if Icke himself posted it there, but I'm sure he would be aware of it. Shyte $50 BUCKS for that pile of CRAP!!! Imagine all the toilet paper you could BUY with $50.00!!! The difference being, that the latter at least performs a VALUABLE and hygienic service!!! Icke has more HEADLESS CHOOKS in his mentally castrated sheople menagerie of sycophantic votaries than COLONEL SANDERS could've dreamed of to fill his Kentucky FRIED CHOOK production-line outlets!!! Gaia Anti-Christ and the Ex-Files: A Trawl through the Cultic Milieu Damian Thompson - Kingston University At the end of 1995 the radical Jewish magazine New Moon printed a long and disturbing news feature under the inspired headline "The Icke Man Cometh". The article, billed as a "special investigation", began as follows: "It is has been hard in recent years to ignore the popularity of almost everything that comes under the heading New Age. Yoga, meditation, Kabbalah, Buddhism, alternative medicine, environmentalism, self-improvement and New Age therapies have all gained in popularity, as have all other fringe interests like UFOS and the paranormal. But during the past year, a dark side to the New Age message of sweetness and light has become increasingly clear." According to the authors of the piece, Matthew Kalman and John Murray, a small number of influential New Age leaders are embracing conspiracy theories which are heavily influenced by the racist ideology of the far right. The article singled out David Icke, the former Coventry City goalkeeper and BBC sports commentator whose public declaration in 1990 that he was a son of God, and henceforth would dress only in turquoise, furnished the media with perhaps the most hilarious news story of the year. Well, you can stop laughing, said Kalman and Murray: for in the course of his eccentric spiritual pilgrimage, David Icke has turned into a fully fledged New Age Nazi. Let's get it right here, shall we. Icke DOES make wild, unsubstantiated assertions, and DOES have many 'headless chook' followers, but that doesn't mean he is wrong on all counts. Most of the information he peddles stems from others, he merely weaves it together, sort of like 2+2=5. BUT, to post here the article by Kalman and Murray as any indication about Icke is pure idiocy. Kalman and Murray are notorious liars and hypocrites. Their articles attacking myself, NEXUS and Icke are knowing disinformation and lies. Their own magazine died in the UK due to their failure to spend people's subscription money on publishing. They spent people's subscription money in printing up leaflets telling people that NEXUS is a neo-nazi magazine. Kalman and Murray are about as low in the human dung-heap as people get. They know what the truth is, but continue to steal other people's money to spread lies about innocent people. Find other evidence to support your anti-Ickeness, using Kalman and Murray's lies is just an indication of how little you do research yourself! regards Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A
Re: [CTRL] Kalman + Murray Lies about NEXUS/David Icke
-Caveat Lector- Kalman and Murray are right on target about Icke. He networks the milita and New Age fields, spewing his antisemitism in both areas. Kalman and Murray were leftists who were concerned that this individual was fouling Green movement territory, not understanding that New Age, which the Green movement is part of, comes from the same sources as the Nazi movement did. They were left, thought they were attacking the right, not realizing they were getting too close to the roots of the left's interests. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lizard People Crap was ....Satanisme in the Vatican
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/10/00 2:38:34 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the sensation is the claim of secret satanic mass being conducted in the Vatican, where particpants wear a sort of Ku Klux Klan robe, and are naked under that. This is similar to the satanic shapeshifter ceremonies David Icke has reported in "The Biggest Secret." I've had personal contact with about twenty survivors of satanic ritual abuse, long-term internet contact with 300 or more, and read every book by survivors and therapists I've been able to find and/or afford. I've never heard shape-shifting accounts by any survivor except one - Cathy O'Brien in "Trance-formation of America." It's already been established that Mark what's-his-name is a dubious intel-connected character at best. I've heard accounts of strange spiritual manifestations that to survivors are often only explainable in terms of demons or disembodies spirits. No Shape-Shifting Lizard People accounts yet. I think this whole shape-shifting lizard crap trivializes the very real mind-boggling torture that is actually occurring out there. It takes the focus off the very human events that are occurring and takes the focus off the very real victims. It creates a carnival atmosphere around grave occurances, which is probably exactly what it is intended to do. People hear Icke's shape-shifting reptilian stories, giggle, and then dismiss the whole phenomenon of ritualized torture of children out of hand. This sounds like Standard Psyop Disinfo Rule # 2. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kalman + Murray Lies about NEXUS/David Icke
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/10/00 6:39:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He networks the milita and New Age fields, spewing his antisemitism in both areas. What a load of irresponsible propaganda. Icke is no more an anti-semite than the US Government is anti-semetic. Why the need to attack Icke, he does much good...could it be that he's hitting a little too close to home?? Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lizard People Crap was ....Satanisme in the Vatican
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/10/00 6:44:09 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People hear Icke's shape-shifting reptilian stories, giggle, and then dismiss the whole phenomenon of ritualized torture of children out of hand. This sounds like Standard Psyop Disinfo I believe it's included in his works to cause exactly the response you claim...his books are chock full of much serious scholarship...so much so in fact that he could be considered a threat by the powers that (in secret) be...by including this theory he makes himself look silly to those who are too lazy or closed-minded to look further and thereby takes some heat off himself. I don't think he wants to end up another Danny Casalaro or Jim Keith! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes I had that bruise weeks...and to this day can think of no rational explanation for what could have caused that injury, that wouldn't have also shown on the front of the ear... Perhaps an exploding implant? ;-) Prolly a burst blood vessel maybe too much "thinking" June ... or perhaps some extra serious ... ahmmm ... ahmmm "activities" ... the night before ()! ... which quite prolly would have been associated with an "EXPLODING implant!" (GGG)!!! Okay, here's a serious question, Aleisha. I can't give you any info on Lucille Ball...but do you know anything regarding William Powell? I've asked this question periodically on this, and other lists, over the years, because of something I read at the time Reagan became president. June Allyson was quoted in an article -- quite as an aside -- saying that Powell (her husband at the time), was responsible for turning Reagan from a far-left actor's union president to the far-right reactionary we all knew...and apparantly accomplished this deed in the span of 20 to 30 minutes, behind closed doors. So I always wondered what it was that Powell said (or perhaps, what he WAS), that was able to sway Reagan that extremely, in only a matter of minutes... People can be persuaded in seconds, let alone longer periods of time, and persuaded into most extraordinary activities or life-course changes that they had not planned, or perhaps had long held internally, and then had such triggered by some event. Although it is possible, there is no essential need to ascribe to such changes to some cloak and dagger motive imo. I am not all that familiar with US politics, but I can hardly imagine Reagan being a "Leftie," except for the purposes of SPYING on his fellows. The whole "Communist" anti-God schema, does appear to have played into the hands of the Vatican US religio-economic-politico Alliance. In hindsight, one could almost be excused for envisaging the hysteria generated by the "Cold War," and the rapid "fall" of Soviet Communism, as almost stage-managed. Anyway, now my house has been hit by lighting three times in 5 years..go a new television out of it, lost a big pine tree with great ball of fire, and then now they got my Web TV - but I had one in reserve...sometimes I think those Weather Modification terrorists have my (house) number. Invest in a good surge protector...not only for the electrical lines, but for the phone line into your WebTV unit, too... June I would add to that fine arsenal - anti inter-Galactic body-snatcher pedants, cosmic-ray inhibitor crystals, a cupboard and fridge well stocked with Bundaberg Rum and Coke! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
Re: [CTRL] Lizard People Crap was ....Satanisme in the Vatican
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/10/00 6:50:43 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe it's included in his works to cause exactly the response you claim...his books are chock full of much serious scholarship...so much so in fact that he could be considered a threat by the powers that (in secret) be...by including this theory he makes himself look silly to those who are too lazy or closed-minded to look further and thereby takes some heat off himself. I don't think he wants to end up another Danny Casalaro or Jim Keith! Bill. But Bill, all disinfo carries much real info. If Icke uses the Lizard Thing to take the heat off, then it has a side-consequence that is so base and low it negates any assistance he might be providing, in my opinion. One simply cannot trivialize child-torture for any reason and still ride a White Horse. I can't say for certain that Icke is a disinfo agent. I found his own account of how he rose from the soccer fields to a high level broadcasting job to be shallow, superficial and therefore dubious. I only know about a fraction of what Icke writes about. I've listened to him. He seems sincere and persuasive in many respects. I don't know for a fact that the Lizard thing is untrue. What I don't understand is why in ten years of intense survivor contact and intense study, I haven't heard this from survivors or therapists. Experiencers/witnesses are a very good source, in my opinion. From what I gather out there, the lizard thing just ain't happening. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kalman + Murray Lies about NEXUS/David Icke
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Kalman + Murray Lies about NEXUS/David Icke -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/10/00 6:39:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He networks the milita and New Age fields, spewing his antisemitism in both areas. What a load of irresponsible propaganda. Icke is no more an anti-semite than the US Government is anti-semetic. Why the need to attack Icke, he does much good...could it be that he's hitting a little too close to home?? Bill. You stupid blind sycophant Shannon! Who the hell do you think Ickes "REPTILIANS" are and word-coded for ... are you REALLY THAT politico DUMB-ASSED Willie ...??? Here's a sample, from an anti-Semitic bigot who is given credit in Ickes book "The Biggest Secret," as an "editor," one Ivan Fraser, who expressed the Ickites style of sentiment on a public forum. Here's a couple of samples of this madman's racial hatred, and crass banality, quote: "The predators use the Jews as their main tools. Many Jews are vampires and suck in the energy fields of those around them. People who buy houses once belonging to certain Jews find they have taken on a living hell. Those that try to associate with Jews find they are not welcome." Further on, this Fraser "editor" of Icke writes about his hated Jews: "Recognise them for what they are, the philosophy for what it is and don't borrow their money, eat their produce, support their art, buy into their politics, etc. Then they will have no host. Let them ghettoise themselves if they want to and separate themselves. But be aware that unless they change their beliefs they will always hate you and seek to own you and your property and desire to see you destroyed." Terms, such as "Reptilian" and "Predators," have long been used by these Gnostic/Aryan/White Supremacist crazies as code for their racial hatred of Jews. Wake up Willie! You've been had, and had well and good by these racists and moneygrubber whores who masquerade as crusaders of "truth." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kalman + Murray Lies about NEXUS/David Icke
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/10/00 7:37:10 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You stupid blind sycophant Shannon! Personal attacks...a no-no. Who the hell do you think Ickes "REPTILIANS" are and word-coded for ... are you REALLY THAT politico DUMB-ASSED Willie ...??? You're off your rocker dude...reptilians is code for Jews??? Take a pill! Here's a sample, from an anti-Semitic bigot who is given credit in Ickes book "The Biggest Secret," as an "editor," one Ivan Fraser, who expressed the Ickites style of sentiment on a public forum. Your sample is not from Icke and is therefore totally irrelevant. Icke can't be responsible for the utterings of others and you clearly have an axe to grind with Icke...but spreading lies is pretty desperate no? And the name-calling too...must have hit a nerve! Icke is on record saying that ALL racism and intolerance is WRONG... Why are you so afraid of Icke? Now THAT'S what I want to know! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lizard People Crap was ....Satanisme in the Vatican
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/10/00 5:36:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From what I gather out there, the lizard thing just ain't happening. MHO, is that is a meme of mudding, confusion and deflection and when done at all it is electronical illusion aided with drugs and other "ritual trappings" of "magic.". Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: I later found out that the area where I was hearing this 'shortwave scanning' the loudest is where the Air National Guard have a base that includes state-of-the-art radio equipment, and that indeed the base was used during the Gulf War to monitor radio transmissions from the Mideast and from our allied nations (probably also monitoring what non-allied nations like Russia were reporting)... I doubt the monitoring station could have been a problem. Radio intercept is a passive endeavor, you can't "suck" the radiowaves out of the air. Transmitting, maybe interference there, but not receiving. -- ´´ Mark McHugh A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Bush Judges: Nothing to Brag About
-Caveat Lector- Dear Brigade, "It was a Republican Supreme Court that recently upheld a ban on certain semiautomatic weapons. It was a Republican Supreme Court that recently outlawed students from praying at football games. It was this same Republican Court that recently outlawed students from choosing a classmate to give a prayer at high school graduations. And it was this same Supreme Court that recently upheld the suspension of a Kansas youth for (gasp) drawing a picture of a Confederate flag" Don't be fooled again America! GO PAT GO!! Linda -- From: "Chuck Baldwin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] " [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Chuck Baldwin's Food for thought Date sent: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 6:54:5 -0500 Republican Appointments: Nothing to Brag About by Chuck Baldwin October 10, 2000 One argument used by the Republican faithful for voting for Mr. Bush is that he will certainly appoint conservative, pro-life justices to the Supreme Court and other conservatives to important positions. However, the record of Republican appointments (including Wâs) doesnât necessarily bear that out. Republican appointments have dominated the High Court for nearly thirty years. It was a 7-2 Republican majority court that legalized the murder of unborn babies back in 1973. Still today Republican appointments hold a 7-2 advantage on the Supreme Court. And yet the courtâs liberal decisions continue. It was a Republican Supreme Court that recently upheld a ban on certain semiautomatic weapons. It was a Republican Supreme Court that recently outlawed students from praying at football games. It was this same Republican Court that recently outlawed students from choosing a classmate to give a prayer at high school graduations. And it was this same Supreme Court that recently upheld the suspension of a Kansas youth for (gasp) drawing a picture of a Confederate flag. The Supreme Court has continued its penchant for liberal rulings, a majority of Republican appointments notwithstanding. And itâs not likely that a Bush White House will change much in this regard. In the first presidential debate, Mr. Bush told the American people to look at his Texas Supreme Court appointments. I did. I found that in their first ruling on the stateâs new parental notification law, Bush appointed justices decided a teen-age girl could have an abortion without informing her parents. I also found that contrary to Bushâs claims, his appointments are anything but exemplary. One of Bushâs appointments to the Texas Supreme Court, Al Gonzales, said, "He [Bush] never asked me my position on any particular issue." The Texas Lawyer newspaper supported Gonzalesâ statement. It concluded that Bushâs approach to appointing judges "isnât quite what one might expect from a conservative Bible-Belt governor and tort reform champion." "Bush doesnât question would-be appointees about abortion or school prayer, affirmative action or guns ⦠and this may speak volumes about the men and women heâd tap for the most powerful courts in the nation if he becomes president." Indeed. His four Supreme Court appointees are widely viewed as moderates that consistently side with big business. Other Bush appointments are even more disturbing. His first appointment was a Democrat to the insurance commission. His next appointed was a militant pro-abortion Democrat as commissioner of health and human services. Just recently Bush appointed a long-time supporter of abortion and gay rights, Martha Hill Jamison, to the 164th district court. From a conservative perspective, this is hardly a record to brag about. If conservatives would pay more attention to what they are voting for instead of what they are voting against, the nation might turn around! As it is, all we get is more of the same, Republican labels notwithstanding. -- If you wish to send me an E-mail please use: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com. - end -- ~ On the Trail with Pat Buchanan and Ezola Foster http://www.buchananreform.com/trail/trailmain.asp ~ Internet Brigade Headquarters http://www.buchanan.org ~ BUCHANAN-FOSTER 2000 HQ 1-800-GO-PAT-GO http://www.buchananreform.com ~ WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! ** *** A vote for
Re: [CTRL] Kalman + Murray Lies about NEXUS/David Icke
-Caveat Lector- Kalman and Murray are right on target about Icke. He networks the milita and New Age fields, spewing his antisemitism in both areas. Kalman and Murray were leftists who were concerned that this individual was fouling Green movement territory, not understanding that New Age, which the Green movement is part of, comes from the same sources as the Nazi movement did. They were left, thought they were attacking the right, not realizing they were getting too close to the roots of the left's interests. Kalman and Murray are complete liars and disinformation agents. They stand accused themselves of being neo-nazis by SearchLight in the UK. They have lied and stolen, smeared and disinformed for several years. I hope your accuracy about Kalman and Murray does not reflect the level of research you have done on other aspects of this thread. Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The British Eugenics Establishment
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Re: [CTRL] PBS: What a load of . . . .
-Caveat Lector- Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tis more than an argument but is the truth. The constitution gives no authority to any branch of the government for prohibitional statutes against plants that come from God. The documentary made the point that that was what the first 'drug czar' (sorry, his name now slips me, but he was the one back in the 30s responsible for the first drug laws) tried to avoid...while he was willing to regulate manufactured drugs, he didn't want the federal government getting involved in trying to regulate a naturally growing weed, and predicted that it would be a losing battle if such legislation was passed. I think your talking about Anslinger, yes? http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/People/anslinger.html -- ´´ Mark McHugh Up in smoke, that's where my money goes! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Date: 10 October 2000 Federalist #00-41.brf
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! * Veritas Vos Liberabit * THE FEDERALIST(r) BRIEF The Conservative e-Journal of Record Date: 10 October 2000 Federalist #00-41.brf To retrieve today's Brief as HTML printer-friendly text, link to: http://www.Federalist.com/current00-10.asp To support or sponsor The Federalist, link to: http://www.Federalist.com/support.asp (Publisher's note: Please see the "Two Cents" question at the bottom of this page. We need your feedback about new Federalist e-mail formats.) __O__ THIS WEEK'S FEATURED SITE TaxClarity.org was created to help you decipher what the tax plans by both major presidential candidates mean to you personally. As with all campaign promises, it's very difficult to cut through the rhetoric and REALLY understand what a candidate is promising. To this end, we have created some simple-to-use calculators. The most popular (and most relevant) of these calculators are the ones that help you determine your personal tax savings related to income taxes. Visit -- http://www.TaxClarity.org/ CONTENTS: The Founders Insight Good News Faith Family Culture Liberty Opinion in Brief Editorial Exegesis Government Political Futures For the Record Policy Pages The Last Word Two Cents __O__ THE FOUNDERS "It will be first necessary to define what is meant by a Constitution. It is not sufficient that we adopt the word; we must fix also a standard signification to it. A constitution is not a thing in name only, but in fact. It has not an ideal, but a real existence; and wherever it cannot be produced in a visible form, there is none. A constitution is a thing antecedent to a government, and a government is only the creature of a constitution. The constitution of a country is not the act of its government, but of the people constituting a government. It is the body of elements, to which you can refer, and quote article by article; and which contains the principles on which the government shall be established, the manner in which it shall be organized, the powers it shall have, the mode of elections, the duration of parliaments, or by what other name such bodies may be called; the powers which the executive part of the government shall have; and, in fine, everything that relates to the complete organization of a civil government, and the principles on which it shall act, and by which it shall be bound. A constitution, therefore, is to a government, what the laws made afterwards by that government are to a court of judicature. The court of judicature does not make the laws, neither can it alter them; it only acts in conformity to the laws made: and the government is in like manner governed by the constitution." --Thomas Paine __O__ INSIGHT "They are slaves who fear to speak, For the fallen and the weak; They are slaves who will not choose, Hatred, scoffing and abuse; Rather than in silence shrink, From the truths they needs must think; They are slaves who dare not be In the right with two or three." James Russell Lowell __O__ GOOD NEWS "...But even if we had a king, what could he do for us? They make many promises, take false oaths and make agreements; therefore lawsuits spring up like poisonous weeds in a plowed field." (Hosea 10:3-4) "Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers." (Psalm 1:1) "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:3) __O__ FAITH "Virtually the entirety of our population, whatever their faith, acknowledges God. Through history, our schools like our society have done so as well. This common bond has been a transcendent and unifying element in our nation's life. If by tortured logic, we deny this heritage, we are attacking the sense of unity upon which our civil society depends." --William J. Moloney __O__ FAMILY "If a message is not compatible with an individual's values, he always has the power to reject it. Parents obviously have a role, through implicit and explicit moral instruction, in shaping those values. If they do their job right, their children will learn to be skeptical about what they see and hear -- including alarmist claims about their own vulnerability to bad influences." --Jacob Sullum __O__ CULTURE "In America today, are there no national crises, no common dangers, no reasons to sound the alarm? Our prosperity is unprecedented. But while the table is loaded, there is a spiritual hunger in the land. Never before have we been as divided along racial/ethnic lines. Our nation is suffering an identity crisis. Fewer and fewer of us know what America means,
[CTRL] Finding Hope at Home
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Finding Hope at Home by Samuel L. Blumenfeld http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2000/10-23-2000/vo16no22_homeschool.htm The decline of government schools lies in stark contrast to the bright ray of hope offered by the rising star of homeschooling. If eight years of the Clinton regime have turned you into a pessimist about America's future, perhaps a look at the awesome successes of the homeschool movement might turn you into an optimist. Ten years ago, few Americans knew anything about homeschooling. Today, with 12-year-old homeschooler George Thampy winning the National Spelling Bee, and second and third finalists also being homeschoolers, everybody now knows about homeschooling. The newspapers can't get enough of it. Thampy also came in second in the National Geography Bee. And who can forget the ebullient Rebecca Sealfon, the homeschooler from Brooklyn who won the Spelling Bee in 1997. And this is just the beginning. The homeschool movement is producing its first wave of graduates, and they are getting into the best universities and colleges in the nation. Even the military has changed its policies toward homeschoolers, who were previously classified as dropouts. According to the Washington Times, the Air Force enlisted 10 homeschoolers in 1998, but 200 in fiscal 1999. The Navy enlisted 23 in 1998, as compared to 1,050 in 1999. With the armed services hungry for literate recruits, they have finally recognized the talents and skills of homeschoolers. Homeschoolers are also scoring impressively on the SAT and ACT college entrance exams, consistently outperforming their public school counterparts. This year, for example, homeschoolers scored an average of 22.8 on the ACT, while their public and private school counterparts scored an average of 21. As for the SAT, this year homeschoolers scored an average of 1,100, or 81 points above the national average of 1,019. Freedom at Work The most important thing to know about homeschooling is that it is educational freedom at work. And freedom produces better results than coercion. This country has gone so far down the road to socialism that most people have no idea what educational freedom means. What it means is freeing your family from the shackles of government education, and educating your children in conformity with your family's religious and moral values. But freeing yourself from a government institution like the public school is not only a cultural act, but a political one as well. For you'd have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to realize that the public schools are being used by Gramscian change agents to transform America into a totalitarian state. Those change agents want to remake America by capturing control of the youth. Just imagine the long-term political and cultural implications of denying them access! The act of removing your child from the public school affects the most important statist institution in our society: the government education system. Statism requires compulsory government schooling if it is to succeed in brainwashing the children of the country, for it is the children who will make the future. The government schools are creating millions of dysfunctional young adults without brain power, unfit to do anything that requires intellectual effort. Their source of stimuli is the television set and its statist messages. They are increasingly unable to understand or even defend the legacy of freedom we've inherited from our Founding Fathers. And their lack of academic skills relegates them to the bottom of American society. That is why our high-tech industries clamor to import technically skilled workers from abroad to fill the jobs that many young Americans cannot handle. But through homeschooling (and other private alternatives), concerned parents are providing hope for the future. In the time span of less than a generation, homeschooling has grown from a small counter-cultural phenomenon to a vibrant mainstream movement consisting of an estimated 1.7 million homeschoolers. These homeschoolers will grow and blossom into independent-minded, well-educated, and skilled young adults who possess the values of their parents, who will know how to read and write, multiply and divide, who will know the history of our country, and who will exhibit a true love of freedom and the Constitution. If you want proof of this, simply attend a large homeschool convention and watch as parents go from vendor to vendor, poring over programs and books, choosing carefully what they want for their children. Watch the parents attending lectures and workshops, taking notes, buying tapes so that they can listen to the wisdom of the many wonderful speakers that lecture at these conventions. As a participant in these activities, I've watched the homeschool movement grow by leaps and bounds. For example, 11 years ago, when the Massachusetts homeschool
[CTRL] CONGRESS ACTION: October 8, 2000
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! CONGRESS ACTION: October 8, 2000 = GLORIFICATION OF IGNORANCE: This week, the Senate overwhelmingly passed (96 to 1), and Clinton is expected to sign into law, legislation designed to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to grant increased numbers of visas to nonimmigrant aliens. The reason for this legislation, according to Senator John Warner (R-VA) in the Congressional Record, is that ".there does exist a tight labor market in many fields, especially the information technology fields. . This tight labor market makes it difficult for the high-tech industry to fill job openings, and this difficulty is compounded by the fact that our American education system, for one reason or another, is not producing enough individuals with the interest and skills for employment in the information technology fields. If these jobs are not filled, our economy will suffer, and these American companies will move overseas to fill their jobs." Senator Partick Leahy (D-VT) explained, "Due to the stunning economic growth we have experienced in the past eight years, unemployment is lower than the best-case scenario envisioned by most economists. . Although it is important that the high-tech industry ensure that it is making maximum possible use of American workers, it should also have access to highly-skilled workers from abroad, particularly workers who were educated at American universities." The bill in question is S.2045, the "American Competitiveness in the Twenty-first Century Act of 2000". Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) put his finger on both the short-term and long-term problem: "In the short-term, a tight labor market, increasing globalization, and a burgeoning economy have combined to increase demand for skilled workers well beyond what was forecast when Congress last addressed the issue of temporary visas for highly skilled workers in 1998. .The longer term solution lies with our own children and our own workers; and in ensuring that our education and training of our current and future workforce matches the demands in our high tech 21st century global economy." How can this be? How can there be a shortage of educated high technology workers, here in the United States, the alleged high technology capitol of the world? After all, look at our historic lead in creating the core elements of our high technology economy. The development of the modern electronic computer is usually credited to Jancsi von Neumann (although born in Hungary, and educated in Zurich and Budapest) working at Princeton's Institute for Advanced Study, building on the work of University of Pennsylvania researchers Eckert and Mauchly and their ENIAC computer. The integrated circuit was invented by scientists working at Fairchild Semiconductor and Texas Instruments. And as everyone knows, our own current Vice President himself invented the Internet. So why can't America's high technology companies find enough highly trained people, born and educated in the United States, to fill out their workforces? According to a report titled "Before It's Too Late: A Report to the Nation from The National Commission on Mathematics and Science Teaching for the 21st Century", (the Glenn Commission) released September 27, 2000 by the U.S. Department of Education, ".the current preparation that students in the United States receive in mathematics and science is, in a word, unacceptable. Recent reports of the performance of our country's students from both the Third International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS) and the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) echo a dismal message of lackluster performance, now three decades old; it's time the nation heeded it -- before it's too late." The Executive Summary of the report warns "The primary message of this report holds that America's students must improve their performance in mathematics and science if they are to succeed in today's world and if the United States is to stay competitive in an integrated global economy." The Commission concluded that, ".the most direct route to improving mathematics and science achievement for all students is better mathematics and science teaching." The nation needs better teachers. One proposal from the Commission to achieve that is a step adamantly opposed by the nation's teachers' unions: "incentives -- whether in the form of cash awards, salary increases, support for further education, or community-wide recognition -- are needed to encourage deserving mathematics and science teachers to remain in teaching and improve their skills." America's education system is dominated by America's teachers' unions. And those unions are very much like the current democrat candidate for president whom they support -- firmly striding across that fabled "bridge to the 21st century", but marching in the wrong direction. As was recently commented about Gore's approach to
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- Thanks - I find that this is what I have to do, for the Web people said to unplug my phone line during storm - line to web. So this I will do. Now it was Dick Powell who was married to June Allyson..I remember when he was in Columbus in 1960 about - appeared on a TV show, and said he had eaten swiss cheese and it had given him "hives"..he apologized for it. Shortly thereafter, he died of cancer and I always wondered about the hives and if it was related to his death a symptom/ Never heard the Reagan story - only that Reagan had said the communists had taken over Hollywood - and this was at a time when he did not get too many good movie roles. Also he played in a movie that had been called the Voice of the Turtle and the name of same, was changed to something else - remember they played the song Danny Boy throughout the movie and Eleanor Parker, whose grandparents lived across the street from us when we were very small - played the role - (her grandfather hated her).she seldom visited. Anyway - that movie Voice of othe Turtle name straight out of Song of Solomon...and also line from poem written by Wheeler - For I Am The Voice of the Turtle and Reagan did you ntoce, had neck of turtle? William Powell used to play the Thin Man but it was the singer Dick Powell who married June Allyson. Dick Powell never seemed politically incliined and went on to play good detective parts, etc., and Reagan ended up with a money named Bonzo? And he really played in some bombs. Will see if I can find out about Dick Powell - but never heard of him in politics - frankly, he was always smiling and a nice type and did not have the mean streak Reagan had when young.once at Republican Convention when Rockefeller go up to speak he was in audience and camera caught him screaming and frothing at the mouth, for he sure hated Nelson... Reagan had personal ax to grind somewhere.he had two faces - sweet and kind, and boy that other one like masks of comedy and tragedy So much for Voice of Turtle ... Thanks again for tip on Web..little bitty lightning bolts were floating about - and boy when the big one hit - a tiny little lightning bolt took out my modem on the web box. Such is life... A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- I believe somehow these celluar phones you pick up stuff, June.and during this Gulf War on this one radio I had in my office, and I was surrounded with communication equipment, etc., I picked up these signals from this what Col Thomas Beardon called "woodpecker" signals from Russian Satellites..] Once when MUIR was up there, the American Astronauts were awakened to the Woody W oodpecker Song - and that MIR had connections I am sure to this weather modification program. So some pepole are more sensitive to this stuff for I was told by this one group that I had become "attuned to the cosmos" and to this day am not sure what they meantbut I used to pick up stuff from space program all the time - for your brain acts like a computer and everything our brain and senses do, we have made replicas - like TV, radio for seeing and hearing, telephone for communication and now wireless stuff - this is how brain works and psychic stuff happens - some receive and strong can send also and this stuff can be dangerous - especially if drugs are used to "enhance" psychic ability - this woman who was heir to Sheraton Hotels, husband used drugs down in Florida (she was Robin Moore's sister) to "enhance" her psychic ability and she later disappeared back in 1980 or 81lots of experimentation and MkUltra I never heard of until I got on web in 1968. Interesting and deadly stuff and I had enough of that stuff pulled on me through these "psychic" terrorists (friendly thank heavens)..who make receivers of you. Now behind your ear ais a puzzle.implants are now used when people need medical treatament so they do not have to search for veins and the thought of that is sickening..is daily procedure now that many doctors do not approve. But Reagan knew all about Jonestown and was involved in this "experiment".lots of things about him we do not know yet - he did have two faces. Sounds like youi were hit by something behind your ear - as for Oswald I thought about that mastoid scar and wondered about implant..radio transmitters, etc...for he is still an enigma. The guy was ot that smart yet claimed to possess omnipotent powers when young..god like powers. Secret Experiments - I am still puzzling over two words I found written in this old bible "Key Experiment" handwritten in pencil on side of page of Song of Solomon, probably most cryptic book in bible - under the rose, so to put - hypnotic drugs, lips of those who are asleep made to speak - hypnosis.I am Black but Comely (Black is Beautiful) and of course, the Order of the Lily and the Rose - Rosicrucian Suff..shadows fleeing at daybreakit all means something. Something happened to you that day - I do not like music in automobiles either, or tapes - if your automobile window was open that day, you could have been hit by something - maybe BB gun.once in the night somebody shot through our board room windows with a gun, and we had three bullet holes - my office was next to Board Room..whoever did it, had to be on lowr hill road and shot up or hiding in r avine (had 90 acres there)...but if yo9u got hit with that one, you would have really known it. So Russian Satellites up there - and some people are sensitive to some of this stuff.now and then I get CB radios and police cars on my telephone.also cable tv and al houses wired for this sound - you have to wonder. Do know thistelephath and ESP exists and the government upper echelon know it but to them it is dangerous and they do not want people getting into it much..this is why psychics are put near places like Coca Beach, and in Huston for they pick up stuff and do not know sometimes what they are picking up but a good trianed one, does. So much for Tower of Babel, advertising, and just plain brainwashing and psychic networkthe real thing you will not know when you are around them until they start writing the books for money. Remote viewing is real. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Truth about the David Icke et al Moneygrubbers Style of Politics!
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Kalman + Murray Lies about NEXUS/David Icke -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/10/00 7:37:10 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You stupid blind sycophant Shannon! Personal attacks...a no-no. The above is simply a reflection based on your personality and gullible character. We can also now add HYPOCRITE to your character trait Willie. Just read your own "personal attacks," upon others, which anyone can check going back through the archives HYPOCRITE Willie. Not to mention your deranged and maddened private e-mail enraged froth LOLOL to moi!!! I don't believe I've yet felt so INTENSELY PERSONAL in objection to someone's public forum post, to send them PRIVATE, UNSOLICITED e-mail ABUSE, as per poor old apoplectic Willie has done on a number of occasions. Who the hell do you think Ickes "REPTILIANS" are and word-coded for ... are you REALLY THAT politico DUMB-ASSED Willie ...??? You're off your rocker dude...reptilians is code for Jews??? Take a pill! From your Height Ashbury days, I imagine you've already popped a few too many "pills" Willie, (or was that PSEUDO about you as well Willie - you just never SWALLOWED, like you namesake, "NEVER" did ANYTHING?) Hmmm ... and by sounds, most likely you've never even read much of the baloney peddled by the publicly self-acclaimed "SON OF GOD," (LMAO!!!) Icke. Only one as naive as yourself would defend his style, and his devotees indefensible hogwash. Here's a sample, from an anti-Semitic bigot who is given credit in Ickes book "The Biggest Secret," as an "editor," one Ivan Fraser, who expressed the Ickites style of sentiment on a public forum. Your sample is not from Icke and is therefore totally irrelevant. Icke can't be responsible for the utterings of others and you clearly have an axe to grind with Icke...but spreading lies is pretty desperate no? And the name-calling too...must have hit a nerve! What "lies" (plural), in the above statements would they be sly Willie? Or have you just committed one? Why did you snip and censor the quote sly Willie? Too hot to handle for you? Here it is again, and just so you don't misunderstand , I think it is quite clear that "PREDATORS," as this style of paranoid mindset uses, is also synonymous to this racist mindsets use of the term "REPTILIAN," and that "PREDATORS," here refers (below) to this Reptilian Predators "consciousness," being in control of "the JEWS," and that "Jews are Vampires." I suppose, from some of the other diatribes posted by you, and from your other guru Achyara, (another whom Icke relies and quotes), you agree with such sentiments? Seems there is an entire NETWORK of your ilk emerging here Willie? Just like that "Gaia Anti-Christ and the Ex-Files: A Trawl through the Cultic Milieu" article implies? A NETWORK of Jew Haters, using "Conspiracy Theory," and New Agey style neo-Gnostic "spirituality," as a cover for their Racism perhaps Willie? [Here's a couple of samples of this madman's racial hatred, and crass banality, quote: "The predators use the Jews as their main tools. Many Jews are vampires and suck in the energy fields of those around them. People who buy houses once belonging to certain Jews find they have taken on a living hell. Those that try to associate with Jews find they are not welcome." Further on, this Fraser "editor" of Icke writes about his hated Jews: "Recognise them for what they are, the philosophy for what it is and don't borrow their money, eat their produce, support their art, buy into their politics, etc. Then they will have no host. Let them ghettoise themselves if they want to and separate themselves. But be aware that unless they change their beliefs they will always hate you and seek to own you and your property and desire to see you destroyed."] Yes, from what i hear I suppose Icke does "hit" on people, including hitting their hip pocket for there well-earned income to waste on the trash he plagarises without any sense for discernment. I'd further suggest, the other very teneder "nerve" hit sly Willie, has been your own, by the placement of a expose-bomb under ANOTHER sleazy and moneygrubber guru and scared cow you sycophantically adore and fawn over sly Willie. One does imagine that to employ an "EDITOR" for ones book, one would do some serious research into the views and character of such and editor, and one would imagine, that in apparently KNOWING such an "EDITOR" personally, that one would be cognizant of this individuals overt racist views. Now you're saying STUPIDITY, and ingnorance are an excuse for the huckster? You're HOOT Willie!!! lol!!! Icke is on record saying that ALL racism and intolerance is WRONG... Yeah ... except his own ... and your own ... naturally. Why are you so afraid of Icke? Now THAT'S what I want to know!
[CTRL] Nest of Vipers
-Caveat Lector- I happen to have some copies of Nest of Vipers in my bookshop, if anyone is interested. Cost is $2 US, plus $3 postage to USA. The books are new. Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:06:57 EDT Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:644875"Mafia and Banking /A - Subject: Mafia and Banking From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Thu, Oct 5, 2000 11:26 AM Message-id: 8rih50$h1s$[EMAIL PROTECTED] A couple of days ago there was a report that the Mafia had set up a clone of an online branch of the Banco di Sicilia and were preparing to remove funds from an account belonging to the Sicilian regional government. Of course, in some former communist countries it is not unknown for banks to be controlled by members of criminal networks but some people might think that could not happen in the West. In the recent Sicilian case the Mafia attempted to set up a bank in cyberspace. However, earlier this year it was claimed that a real Wall Street bank, the DMN Capital Investment Bank, had been established by the Mafia as an instrument for carrying out various scams. These stories remind me of the novel, "Nest of Vipers" by Linda Davies (my sister who is herself a former banker who worked both in New York and London), which also features a bank controlled by the Mafia. Nest of Vipers A HREF="http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/vipers.html" http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/vipers.html/A There are links to the stories about the Mafia banks in my page on organised crime, the Mafia etc. at my financial scandals site. Roy Davies Financial Scandals A HREF="http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/scandals/mafia.html" http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/scandals/mafia.html/A Sent via Deja.com A HREF="http://www.deja.com/"http://www.deja.com//A Before you buy. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kalman + Murray Lies about NEXUS/David Icke
-Caveat Lector- Icke is a slick spokesman who tells those very new to conspiracy theory what they think is new information. You said the material quoted wasn't from Icke. Well, here are some of his many nasty, undocumented pieces of "information." From The Robot's Rebellion by David Icke. After a major distortion of Jewish history, he writes: "Incidentally, Jewish people trace their ancestry back to Abraham and the times we are discussing, but today the Jewish majority are Ashkenazim Jews, who, Arthur Koestler claims, originated from a Turkish tribe who converted in the 8th century as an alternative to being forced to espouse Islam or Christianity." and "The Jews became traders, valuers, moneylenders and pawnbrokers, buying and selling primarily rather than producing." and "The theme of constant conflict will be seen throughout human history. The Luciferic consciousness and the human expression of that consciousness do not care what causes the conflict. A sense of religious or racial superiority, greed, lust for power, anything will do. They will support a nation when it suits them and cause it to be destroyed when it doesn't. All they want is for negative energy to be produced in abundance to serve the master Lucifer and for humanity to remain so divided and awash with fear and the pressure of everyday life that they won't open their minds for long enough to see what is really going onetc. etc. etc." and of Hitler... "Most of the main players in the Nazi regime, probably including Hitler, escaped. He and his lady, Eva Braun, did not die in the bunker..." and "Religions like Christianity, Islam and Judaism and so many others have survived this long by fear, indoctrination and imposition. Without these they would have been long gone. In their extreme forms they amount to nothing less than spiritual fascism..." and from "and the truth shall set you free" another book" "We live in nations afraid of the people and in a world afraid of the people. We cling to dogmas that are afraid of the people. Those who wish to suppress by whatever means alternative versions of history which challenge the official line are also afraid of the people--afraid that their manipulation will be exposed by such a free flow of information. The way the Jewish mind has been so seriously manipulated by the Jewish hierarchy over the centuries has had another effect. Like the Roman Catholic Church and other religious and racial tyrannies, Judaism and more recently Zionism, has used fear and guilt to maintain control of its peopleThe Talmud, the Jewish book of law, contains among other little gems, the following: "Just the Jews are human, the non-Jews are no humans but cattle." (Kerithuth 6b, page 78, Jebhammoth 61); "The non-Jews have been created to serve the Jews as Slaves" (Midrash Talpioth 225); "Sexual intercourse with non-Jews is like sexual intercourse with animals" (Kethuboth 3b) "The non-Jews have to be avoided, even more than sixk pigs (Orach Chaiim57 6a)...etc." and "The irony is that the racism of extreme Jews and the racism of Adolph Hitler are both based on a colossal myth. As Alfred Lilienthal, the Jewish research and writer said:...etc. and "The conditioned thought patterns in the collective Jewish mind have repeatedly created the physical reality of oppression, prejudice, and racism which matches the pattern--the expectation--programmed into their collective psyche. They expect it; they create it...etc." and "Of all the people I meet, those brought up in the Roman Catholic and Jewish faith are among the most screwed up mentally and emotionally. This is no coincidence. Both faiths brainwash children with guilt and fear from the earliest age." Icke is in person a charmer who is bringing the far right and far left together with undocumented garbage material. Anyone who has ever looked at standard antisemitic, Nazi New Age type material has seen the above over and over again. It is just Hitler recycled. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
[CTRL] Babies not for sale after all?
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.smh.com.au/breaking/0010/11/A44251-2000Oct11.shtml Group denies offering to buy babies Source: AAP|Published: Wednesday October 11, 1:52 PM A Sydney organisation today denied accusations it was trying to entice expectant mothers to sell their babies. The Department of Community Services (DOCS) is investigating the group, Caring Mums, which placed an advertisement in a western Sydney newspaper offering 'financial assistance' to expectant mothers who did not think they could keep their baby. Caring Mums also said in an email that the mothers could use the money to do a course or take a holiday. 'The amounts can de discussed if applicable,' it added. But the founder of the organisation, who identified herself only as 'Cathy', said the advertisement had been misinterpreted. 'It was a very innocent ad, it's the first time we've ever advertised,' she said. 'Perhaps we should have worded it, 'we personally don't (provide financial assistance)... but the agencies that you go through do'.' Assistance could include the cost of delivery, medical expenses or gifts, depending on the adoptive parents, Cathy said. She said Caring Mums was set up around two years ago and consisted of a group of around 20 women who had experienced adoption and wanted to provide other women with a free, sympathetic advisory service. She said Caring Mums did not make any profit from its work, describing it as 'a labour of love'. Cathy said it was impossible to number how many women the organisation had actually assisted. 'Really I couldn't honestly answer, because what we are about is providing women with information,' she said. DOCS director-general Carmel Niland said today the advertisement indicated that the practice of offering financial incentives to induce expectant mothers to give up their babies was occurring in Sydney. 'People are so desperate for babies that this is a practice that is common overseas,' Dr Niland told ABC radio. 'It appears from the face of it that someone is trying it here ... (the ad) suggests that they are offering an inducement to the mother to relinquish the baby to them.' The department was treating the matter as a criminal matter and would hand it over to the police department's Child Protection Enforcement Agency if the concerns raised were substantiated. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: The Why Part I
-- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/6/_/1406/_/971233467/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com The Why 10/2/00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry Chamish) First the good news. The State Ombudsman, Avigdor Raviv phoned this morning. He was to meet with the State Comptroller within an hour to discuss my request to investigate the Shamgar Commission. He assured me he was sympathetic to the request and that it did fall within the scope of the State Comptroller's duties. It's not approved yet but all you fine people turned the tide. Thank you, you did it! For the past seven years I have been trying to make people understand that outside forces are deliberately stirring up violence with the aim of sending foreign ie. UN troops to Jerusalem. This is the Vatican's desire, that Israeli sovereignty end on the Temple Mount, with the Vatican taking control of the holy sites and the UN in charge of security and diplomacy, yes, just like in Kosovo. That is happening now, with Sharon ordered to prepare the pretext for the UN takeover. I told over a dozen radio programs in August that the plan would be put in motion in late September, as the High Holidays started. Well, I was right. There is nothing spontaneous about our mini-war. It was designed from abroad. Note Albright and Chirac are cooking up the solution. Soon, very soon, the New World Order will arrive in Jerusalem with its army guided by our treacherous, corrupted leaders. I leave you with the latest World Affairs Brief, which puts things in perspective, a perspective sadly lacking in Israel. Barry Chamish WORLD AFFAIRS BRIEF Sept 22, 2000 Copyright Joel Skousen. Quotations with attribution permitted: Cite source as Joel Skousen s World Affairs Brief. Website: http://www.joelskousen.com MY IMPRESSIONS OF ISRAEL: I recently returned from my fact-finding trip to the Middle East. What follows is my frank and personal assessment of the modern state of Israel, without the embellishments of rose-colored glasses. Millions of religious pilgrims trek to the "Holy Land" each year, skimming the surface of the country in almost total isolation from reality. Their guided tours, cushioned by air-conditioned tour buses and 5 star hotels, concentrate on what was, not what is. Churches dot the Judean landscape, each laying claim to a piece of the past that, with few exceptions, doesn t exist anymore. I would estimate that fully 80% of the "holy sites" are not the actual location where the original events occurred--which in most cases is virtually impossible to determine. The famed "Via Doloroso" tracing the presumed path of Jesus agonizing trek to Golgotha is merely an arbitrary walk through 14th century streets built on 40 foot deep rubble left over from the numerous destructions of Jerusalem s past. The few holy sites that are authentic are encumbered by heavy stone medieval churches with dark interiors that do not, in my opinion, impart any of the spiritual feeling of the original place. The Israeli government itself helps perpetuate the mystical, romantic illusions of the past, being acutely aware of the millions of dollars each year generated by religious tourism. The old city of Jerusalem is bathed in soft rosy artificial light at night to give tourists that romantic feeling they can write home about. But the selective rosy views only mask the chronic tension enveloping this relatively hostile land, a region bereft of natural beauty--except for about 5 weeks during the spring when wild flowers briefly bloom, and commercial photographers descend to work their art of selective embellishment that makes Israel look so enchanting in tourist brochures. So great is the contrast between promotion and reality that psychological clinics in Israel have a special term to describe the disillusionment that often affects religious pilgrims. It s called the "Jerusalem Syndrome" and refers to a chronic form of depression that can afflict those who cannot deal with the extreme contrast between holy and unholy. But with all that said, and in spite of the crass commercialization of religious antiquities, I must admit that one can still sense the God of Israel hovering over the land. I have no doubt that He intends to redeem Israel someday--and believe me, it needs redemption. LAND: I was struck by the steep ruggedness of terrain in the Judean and Samarian hill country. One doesn t get an accurate impression of the stark hostility of this terrain from photographs. Though not very high in altitude the hills of Israel are almost barren, extremely rocky and punctuated by deep ravines and gorges that make travel in central Israel a strain on man and machine. From
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: The Why Part II
-- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/6/_/1406/_/971233465/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com POLITICS: There are no free-market political parties in Israel, only shades of statism. Parties on the "right" are orthodox religious parties who are opposed to "land for peace" concessions, but otherwise have their hands in the public coffers as much as the parties on the "left." Except for the recent change to popular election of the Prime Minister, all voting in Israel is for political parties--not individual candidates. You vote for the party of your choice and the party produces a list of who will serve in the Knesset. Thus, the Israeli model of parliamentary politics is very close to Lenin s dictum of maintaining rigid "party discipline." Members of the Knesset owe their entire political existence to the party, and only indirectly to the electorate. Thus, the powers at the top can and do demand total conformity to the party line. For this reason, Israeli politics are rampant with corruption. Payoffs and personal enrichment are commonplace as is the inevitable blackmail that comes when a party official tries to oppose the party line. Virtually all high political offices, including those in the court system are part of the political patronage system. Hence, it is almost impossible for a beleaguered Knesset member to recur to the courts for justice, if the Powers That Be are against him. The mere threat of prosecution is turned off and on like a spigot to induce the desired leverage on wavering politicians. This week s announcement that the investigation into Benjamin Netanyahu s corruption charges is being dropped is a tell-tale sign that the PTB are intending to resurrect Netanyahu as a leader in the Likud. This is part of the ongoing evidence pointing to external control of both major parties in Israel. The Labor Party has undergone a continual stream of factionalization since 1948 when they began with an outright majority of the 120 seats of the Knesset. Now they hold less than 20 seats and must build coalitions with other parties in order to rule. The Labor Party still has two major factions within its ranks--one allied with Shimon Peres who is tightly controlled and financed by the European NWO globalists, and the other aligned with Ehud Barak, the current Prime Minister who, in turn, is controlled by the US faction of the NWO globalists (Kissinger and group). The other two major parties Likud and Shas range in support between 15-17 seats and must form coalitions with other opposing parties in order to govern. The Likud Party is the Israeli equivalent of the American Republican Party. While the Likud has several members who are pro-free market in orientation, the leadership under Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu is as corrupt as the Labor Party. Sharon is a close friend of Shimon Peres, so there is little difference in their politics except that Sharon pretends to be the opposition. Bibi Netanyahu owes his entire political career to the Henry Kissinger group in the US who financed his education, got him a job on Wall Street and guided his rise in Israeli politics. The Shas Party is a "right wing" party of Sephardic Jews whose base of support resides primarily among the Moroccan Jews who have immigrated to Israel. Its most prominent leader (Deri) is currently in jail on corruption charges stemming from years of taking bribes from his coalition partners in the Labor Party--who blackmailed Deri in order to keep the Shas Party aligned with the leftist Labor agenda--something the Shas membership nearly rebelled over. What is ironic is that the Arab population in Israel controls 10-12 seats and thus has become the determining faction that can make or break any coalition. For this reason, it would be political suicide for the Israelis to allow a repatriation of millions of Arab refugees to Israel, who would then be able to command a majority of votes in the Knesset. It is specifically for this reason that Arafat is demanding not only an independent state, but that Israel (not the Palestinian state) absorb almost all the Arab refugees. Arafat fully intends to take back Israel either by militarily conquest (after Israel s security position is weakened by "land for peace" deals), or by democratic conquest via forcing the return of refugees to Israel. PEOPLE: There are notable exceptions to the generalizations I will make here about Jews and Arabs, but I find these general observations do correctly describe some of the underlying reasons for long-term conflict between the two groups. The Jews represent about 80% of the population of Israel, and perhaps only 20% of these
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Ritual Magic, Mind Control and the UFO Phenomenon 1
-- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/6/_/1406/_/971233478/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.dagobertsrevenge.com/mindcontrol.html Ritual Magic, Mind Control and the UFO Phenomenon (Part 1) -- -- by Adam Gorightly It was not long after my own encounter with strange aerial phenomena that I began to see a link between UFO’s to such seemingly disparate topics as psychedelics, psychotronics, and ritual magick. As the years pass, the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (ETH) makes far less sense to this observer than other theories ranging from mind control conspiracies, or--on the other hand--fissures in the space/time continuum which provide a portal of entry for ghostly apparitions that can be saucer-shaped or even take on the form of Moth-Men, Chupacabras or the Blessed Virgin Mary. UFO’s encompass a wide range of phenomena and cannot be categorized simply in terms of little grey skinned buggers from Zeta-Reticuli shoving probes up human rectums. (Ouch!) To me the term “UFO” simply suggests something unexplainable hovering in outer or inner space, whether it is machine-like elves encountered under the influence of DMT, or nuts and bolt craft performing inexplicable aerial maneuvers over Area 51. UFO’s are limited only by our imaginations, and to consider them merely craft from another galaxy is as narrow a view as postulating that newborn babes are delivered exclusively by storks. UFO’s are also--in my estimation--a product of altered consciousness, which is not to suggest that all sightings are in part, or in whole, complete hallucinations. What I’m suggesting is that in order to observe UFO’s, one must often enter into a more receptive state, much like a psychic or channeler tuning into voices or subtle energies. Channelers must first induce in themselves a trance state before being able to contact ‘voices from the beyond’. The same goes for magical workings wherein magicians carry out rituals in order to invoke spirits and/or demons. A corollary to the above statement is the famed Amalantrah Working of legendary occultist Aleister Crowley, which consisted of a series of visions he received from January through March of 1918 via his then ‘Scarlet Woman’, one Roddie Minor. Throughout his life, Crowley had a number of Scarlet Women who acted as ‘Channels’ for otherworldly transmissions of angelic and/or demonic origin. The Scarlet Woman also played a large part in Crowley’s notorious sex rituals, at times combining drugs and bestiality to stir up those strange energies into which good ol’ Uncle Al was trying to tap. To quote Crowley chronicler Kenneth Grant from Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God: Crowley was aware of the possibility of opening the spatial gateways and of admitting an extraterrestrial Current in the human life-wave...It is an occult tradition--and Lovecraft gave it persistent utterance in his writings--that some transfinite and superhuman power is marshaling its forces with intent to invade and take possession of this planet... This is reminiscent of Charles Fort's dark hints about a secret society on earth already in contact with cosmic beings and, perhaps, preparing the way for their advent. Crowley dispels the aura of evil with which these authors (Lovecraft and Fort) invest the fact; he prefers to interpret it Thelemically, not as an attack upon human consciousness by an extra-terrestrial and alien entity but as an expansion of consciousness from within, to embrace other stars and to absorb their energies into a system that is thereby enriched and rendered truly cosmic by the process... It was through the Amalantrah Working--which included the ingestion of hashish and mescaline in its rituals--that Crowley came into contact with an interdimensional entity named Lam, who by the way just happens to be a dead ringer for the popular conception of the ‘Grey’ alien depicted on the cover of Whitley Strieber’s Communion. Crowley called them “Enochian entities” because he purportedly contacted them by using “Enochian calls”, a Cabalistic system/language devised by 17th century Elizabethan magician, Dr. John Dee. From this alleged encounter, some have inferred that the industrious Mr. Crowley intentionally opened a portal of entry through the practice of ritual magick, which allowed the likes of Lam and other ‘alien greys’ a passageway onto the Earth plane. Dr. John Dee and his “scryer”, Edward Kelly, had their own strange encounters with--as they called them--“little men” who moved about “in a little fiery cloud”, thus a
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: [2]Ritual Magic, Mind Control and the UFO Phenomenon 2
-- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/6/_/1406/_/971233489/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com Another interesting “UFO” parallel to note is that Parsons and Hubbard's “visionary experience” with these alien-like entities transpired in the California desert, which during the late 40’s and 50’s was a hotbed for flying saucer activity. It was in this setting that such famous “Contactees” as George Adamski and George Hunt Williamson invoked their own brand of cosmic messengers, transported by saucers, cigar-shaped vessels and the like, often originating for nearby Venus, or other seemingly uninhabitable planets in our solar system. In the 1930’s--prior to his “Space Brother” encounters--Adamski operated a monastery dubbed “The Royal Order of Tibet”, which afforded him a permit to make sacrificial wine during the Prohibition. After the Prohibition ended, Adamski’s monastery suddenly closed its doors, and he afterwards opened a burger stand near the Mount Palomar Observatory. While there, Adamski claimed to have helped astronomers photograph several UFO’s--a claim that afterwards was never verified by anyone at the observatory. Adamski’s first encounter with the “Space Brothers” occurred in the Mojave Desert on November 20, 1952, when--in the company of George Hunt Williamson and some other friends--he witnessed a cigar-shaped craft being pursued by military jets. Just before disappearing from sight, the craft ejected a silver disc, which landed a short distance from Adamski and his party. When Adamski arrived at the saucer he was greeted by a man with long blond hair, wearing a one-piece suit. Telepathically, the “man” informed Adamski he was from Venus, and that he was concerned about the possibility of atomic bomb radiation from Earth reaching other planets in the solar system, and that various beings from throughout the galaxy were visiting Earth harboring these same concerns. According to Adamski, he was taken aboard one of the alien ships and flown around to several venues throughout the universe, including the dark side of the moon. During the course of his aerial foray, Adamski took an array of spurious photographs that have been widely viewed as a hoax. In “Unidentified Fascist Observatories” John Judge asserts that Adamski was an asset of the CIA, who in his lectures tours throughout the 50's and 60's dispersed disinfo on behalf of the Company. Adamski’s colleague--George Hunt Williamson--went on to author several UFO books, such as Other Tongues--Other Flesh, and promulgated the idea of a cosmic good-versus-evil battle taking place between the “good guys” from the dog star, Sirius, versus the evil shit-kickers from Orion. Strangely enough, the planet Sirius is a recurring theme found throughout Occult and UFO lore. Of note in this regard is Robert Temple's The Sirius Mystery, published in 1977, which documents the history of the Dogon tribe of Africa, and their fabled meetings with the Nommos, a race of three-eyed, crab-clawed beings from Sirius. It was these intergalactic emissaries--as Dogon legends record--that passed onto the tribe as far back as 3200 B.C. various astronomical data, among which that Sirius has a companion star invisible to the naked eye. These legends far predate the advent of telescopes, and were later confirmed by astronomers. This “companion” star--Sirius B--wasn't even photographed until 1970. In addition to this knowledge regarding Sirius B, the Nommos also provided additional info to the Dogons; such as the fact that Jupiter has four moons; Saturn has a ring around it; and that the planets in our solar system orbit around the sun. All of these facts, of course, were later confirmed by science. In The Sirius Mystery, Temple traces contact with the Nommos all the way back to Sumeria circa 4500 B.C. At that time, he says, these three-eyed-crab-clawed creatures appeared in their mighty space ships from the stars, bestowing unto humankind vast secrets; revealing mysteries and esoteric knowledge passed on to initiates in various secret societies in Egypt, the Near East, and Greece. These initial contacts, Temple contends, planted the seeds for the various mystery religions, whose offshoots include the likes of Giordano Bruno, Dr. John Dee, and the overall foundation which laid the stones for Freemasonry, and other secret schools of esoteric knowledge such as The Knights Templar and the Rosicrucians. In fact, Freemasons believe that civilization on Earth was initially formed by entities from the Sirius star system, whom they equate with the Egyptian Trinity of Isis, Osiris, and Horus. In these
Re: [CTRL] Lizard People Crap was ....Satanisme in the Vatican
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Samantha L. wrote: job to be shallow, superficial and therefore dubious. I only know about a fraction of what Icke writes about. He really was a great researcher, "before he flipped out several years back." And THAT just may be evidence that at least some of what he claims is real. This kind of thing seems to often happen to heretofore "credible ppl" when they try to tell things the Evilarchy doesn't want discussed. Ppl that try seem to always end up "gone" in one way or another, e.g., suicided, cardiac arrested, etc., etc., or they often self destruct, i.e., alone they destroy their own life-time-built credibility and reputation shortly after they start talking about strange stuff, totally out of character for ppl like this STUFF, e.g., Courtney Brown, Ed Dames, William Cooper, et al. When ever I see this latter scenario occurring, I always ask myself what might it have been that the Evilarchy threatened this heretofore credible person with in order to make them kill off their own credibility? His/her life? The well being of their family? I've listened to him. He seems sincere and persuasive in many respects. I don't know for a fact that the Lizard thing is untrue. What I don't understand is why in ten years of intense survivor contact and intense study, I haven't heard this from survivors or therapists. Are you kiddin'me? That would be like hitting the lotto! IF there really is such bizarre shape shifting stuff going on, it seems to me that NO ONE that ever witnessed "the real deal" would EVER live to tell of it. Not this week! Experiencers/witnesses are a very good source, in my opinion. From what I gather out there, That is understandable either way, i.e., I would think that you would be gathering the same conclusions whether it really was going on, or not...right? I mean, just cuz you have not observed any credible hearsay testimony [funny, "credible hearsay testimony of ppl shape shifting into reptiles?" Oxymoron? Just the mention of something like this seems to discredit the person that is testifying about it, no matter HOW CREDIBLE the person WAS TO THIS POINT IN THEIR LIFE] doesn't mean it ain't "happening." ... the lizard thing just ain't happening. Samantha Best, Mike = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: [3] Ritual Magic, Mind Control and the UFO Phenomenon 3
-- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/6/_/1406/_/971233505/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com Dagobert's Revenge Ritual Magic, Mind Control and the UFO Phenomenon (Part 1) -- -- But not only has Sirius cropped up time and again in Occult and UFO lore, but the ubiquitous Dog Star has also been mentioned in relation to certain mind control experiments which fall under the nefarious umbrella of the CIA’s MKULTRA project. Purportedly started in 1953--under a program that was exempt from congressional oversight--MK-ULTRA agents and “spychiatrists” tested radiation, electric shock, microwaves, and electrode implants on unwitting subjects. The ultimate goal of MK-ULTRA was to create programmed assassins ala The Manchurian Candidate. (The CIA also tested a wide range of drugs in the prospects of discovering the perfect chemical compound to control minds. LSD was one such drug that deeply interested CIA spychiatrists, so much so that in ‘53 the Agency attempted to purchase the entire world supply of acid from Sandoz Laboratories in Switzerland. In fact, for many years the CIA was the principal source for LSD, both legal and otherwise.) In recent years, various info on remote mind control technology has filtered into the conspiracy research community through such “alternative” publications such as Full Disclosure, Resonance as well as a Finnish gentleman by the name of Martti Koski and his booklet My Life Depends On You. Over the last decade, Mr. Koski has been sharing his horrifying tale with the mind controlled world at large, documenting as it does the discovery of rampant brain tampering committed upon himself and countless others. The perpetrators of these evil doings allegedly include the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), The CIA and Finnish Intelligence, among various other intelligence agencies. Where Sirius comes into the clouded picture is quite interesting: at one point during a mind control programming episode, the “doctors” operating on Koski identified themselves as “aliens from Sirius.” Apparently, these “doctors” (or “spychiatrists”) were attempting to plant a screen memory to conceal their true intentions. What this suggests is a theory that a handful of researchers--namely Martin Cannon, Alex Constantine, David Emory and John Judge--started kicking around in the early 90’s: that Alien Abductions were a cover for MK-ULTRA mind control shenanigans perpetrated by Intelligence Agency spooks. According to Walter Bowart--in the revised edition of Operation Mind Control--one alleged mind control victim related an incident along these lines, purportedly occurring in the late 70’s. In memories retrieved by way of hypnotic regression, it was revealed that the victim had been the recipient of a mock alien abduction, the intention of which was to create a screen memory that would conceal the actual mind control programs enacted on the victim. The subject in this instance claimed to have seen a young child dressed in a small alien costume, similar in appearance to the aliens in Speilberg's ET. None of this, of course, dismisses outright the ETH; nor does it mean that ET’s have never visited us. Nevertheless, it's implications are staggering when one considers the impact and subsequent commercialization of the Alien Abduction Phenomenon, and how it has challenged and reshaped the belief systems and psyches of millions upon millions of the planet's inhabitants, in essence creating a new paradigm that prior to thirty years ago was virtually non-existent. As chronicled in Walter Bowart’s Operation Mind Control, in the late 70’s Congressman Charlie Rose (D-N.C) met with a Canadian inventor who had developed a helmet that simulated alternate states of consciousness and realities, much like the VR eyegear-unit postulated in the movie Brainstorm. One such virtual reality scenario played out by those who tried on this helmet was a mock alien abduction. Congressman Rose took part in these experiments, which consisted of aforementioned alien abduction programme. Much to Rose’s amazement, the simulated scenario seemed incredibly realistic. This device sounds quite similar to Dr. Michael Persinger's much-touted "Magic Helmet", which has been receiving a fair amount of press in recent years. Equipped with magnets that beam a low-level magnetic field at the temporal lobe, the “Helmet” effects areas of brain associated with time distortions, and other altered states of consciousness. Although Bowart did not specifically name the inventor of the helmet
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] German TV reports on gold market manipulation
11:15p EDT Tuesday, October 10, 2000 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: Members of GATA and www.LeMetropoleCafe.com in Germany report that the television network that broadcasts financial news there, NTV, interviewed in prime time tonight a financial analyst who seems to have laid out GATA's case for gold and explained the manipulation of the gold market. Below are the accounts we received. Thanks so much to them for their quick correspondence. I have to believe that GATA and its Gold Derivatives Banking Crisis report have had something to do with this, as I believe they figured in the recent articles in the Frankfurter Allgemeine. We're making progress. Some very big people and institutions ARE watching what we're doing and ARE acting on it. So let's keep at it and follow Churchill's rule: Never despair. CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. * * * You will be delighted by the following very much. Today there was a five-minute interview with Martin Siegel on German television (NTV -- it's the German version of CNBC) at prime time about gold market manipulation. All relevant details were mentioned by him in these few minutes. He explained: * Huge short positions. * Investment banks like Deutsche Bank and Goldman Sachs, as well as several central banks, that are involved via leasing, selling, and pushing down the price of gold. * Finally, when central banks have lost all their gold, gold will move up explosively, probably earlier, because of changes like the Washington Agreement. This should change a lot in German investment behavior! Ralph Kutza * * * Germany's NTV channel ran an interview with Martin Siegel tonight right after the NYSE closing bell report. NTV is the German version of CNBC. The interview was broadcast at around 10:30 p.m. CET -- prime time, considering the attention still given to the American stock markets by German investors. The interview was titled "Gold -- A Manipulated Market?" Mr. Siegel did a magnificent job in getting two points across: A: Gold is not dead but is a valid investment and this year, for investors in the euro currency zone, has been more profitable than investments like NASDAQ stocks. B: Gold is manipulated by a bank pool, and politically as well. The inevitable collapse of the carry trade will result in an explosive surge in the price of gold. Mr. Siegel had only a few minutes and I am still flabbergasted by how splendidly he outlined the magnitude and danger of the manipulation in such a compressed time frame, and that NTV ran such an interview. Ralf P. Luig -END- -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"Last minute trips at first-rate discounts from Hotwire. /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9727/3/_/126/_/971236144/"BClick Here!/B/A -_-
[CTRL] Mara Leveritt 9/23/00 audio now up at cia-drugs.org
-Caveat Lector- Mara's talk from 9/23/00 CIA-Drugs Symposium II is now up at cia-drugs.org She starts out soft. Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lizard People Crap was ....Satanisme in the Vatican
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Kris Millegan wrote: From what I gather out there, the lizard thing just ain't happening. MHO, is that is a meme of mudding, confusion and deflection and when done at all it is electronical illusion aided with drugs and other "ritual trappings" of "magic.". Who's to say that "majic" can not be magic, i.e., REAL goddam magic? To me, magic can be defined as illusion, OR the tapping into REAL "other realms," real but outside the current scientific paradigm...the places/dimensions of "real gods" [I define "real gods" as sentient beings that have advanced tech-wise to the point of no longer being bound by the requirement for a corporeal biological need, beings that can travel space, time, and dimensions, at will, without a vehicle or craft...versus plain ol'"gods," as in what most ppl think of when contemplating ET visitors, i.e., simply more advanced STILL BIOLOGICALLY BOUND beings are NOT "real gods"]. Heavy, Babeee;-) = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Justice | ecitsuJ
-Caveat Lector- From http://asp.washtimes.com/printarticle.asp?action=printArticleID=commentary- 2000109164758 }}Begin The Washington Times www.washtimes.com In the name of justice James Bovard Published 10/9/00 H.L. Mencken quipped in the 1920s that the name "Justice Department" was an oxymoron. Attorney General Janet Reno has vindicated Mencken and given solace to cynics across the land. In July, controversy erupted over "Carnivore," the FBI's e-mail wiretap software that reportedly can vacuum up vast amounts of private e-mail regardless of whether the feds have a search warrant. FBI officials "explained" the program's ominous name by stressing that they never thought the public would learn of the program's existence. Janet Reno took charge by announcing she would require the FBI to change Carnivore's name. The Justice Department also promised to appoint independent experts to evaluate the program and to issue a report showing it posed no threat to privacy. Several top academics snubbed the feds, doubting the review could be bona fide. Late last month, the Justice Department proudly announced that a team affiliated with the Illinois Institute of Technology would conduct a thorough evaluation of Carnivore. The Justice Department is scheduled to release this independent expert report exonerating the Carnivore system in December. But glitches happen. The Justice Department posted an information file, including the contract proposal, on the project on its Website. Key parts of the researchers' resumes were blacked out or so the Justice Department thought. Computer buffs at www.cryptome.org easily opened the documents and learned that among the "independent" experts is a top adviser to Mr. Clinton's 1992-93 transition team who performed several studies for federal agencies in recent years, a former Justice Department lawyer, some consultants for the Internal Revenue Service, and others who had top security clearances from the National Security Agency and the Pentagon. The proposal promised that two of its key experts would "be of special assistance in the public comment phase of the project. . . . to help the public overcome popular myths and understand the limitations associated with Carnivore." Declan McCullagh, Wired News' ace reporter, noted "the irony of public disclosure of personal information, by the very people who are in the midst of claiming they can be trusted to protect it." On the other hand, perhaps the hefty list of the Carnivore reviewers' government connections merely proves they are "independent enough for Clinton administration work." The same charade occurred with the "independent" company hired to evaluate the film footage of the re-enactment of the FBI's final assault at Waco held earlier this year at Fort Hood, Texas. The Justice Department endlessly repeated that the Vector Data Systems is an independent British company. However, Vector is actually owned by Anteon, a large American corporation whose web page brags of its contracts with 50 federal agencies including the White House Communications Agency, the Pentagon and the Justice Department. Perhaps the Justice Department assumes the best measure of the independence of a company is how many federal contracts they have snared and hope to receive in the future. Not surprisingly, Vector provided the correct answers thus seeking to absolve the FBI of some of the most serious charges against it at Waco. The recent "independence scams" should be no surprise. The Justice Department has no concerns about conflict of interest because the government is presumed to be incapable of committing any wrong. In a 1996 speech to government prosecutors, Miss Reno declared: "All of you public lawyers are but little lower than the angels, and I salute you." Miss Reno showed her belief in angels in 1994 when she decreed that federal prosecutors would no longer be bound by the ethics guidelines of state bar associations. Miss Reno's power grab for federal prosecutors was unanimously condemned by the Conference of Chief Justices, representing all the state supreme courts. The longer Miss Reno clings to office, the more convinced she becomes that she personifies justice. Consider her flip-flop on the independent counsel law. Miss Reno urged Congress in 1993 to renew the independent counsel law because "there is an inherent conflict whenever senior executive branch officials are to be investigated by the department and its appointed head, the attorney general." But the longer she served as attorney general, the more contemptuous she became of public confidence in the justice system. Last year, she flipped and told Congress that the existing law should be replaced with a system that gave any attorney general unfettered authority to veto any indictments and to fire any special counsel at any time on any pretext, thereby perpetually politicizing investigations of wrongdoing by high-ranking government officials. Miss Reno illustrated how
[CTRL] Peace Is Hell
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Middle_East/2000-10/fisk101000.shtml }}Begin The UN cavalry has arrived, but is it too late to save the peace process? 'The Oslo agreement is dead. That is what this latest Middle East crisis is about' By Robert Fisk 10 October 2000 When the old United Nations donkey comes stumbling into town, you know things are bad. And when Kofi Annan is riding the elderly beast, you know that the world is spinning out of control, that the Americans have thrown up their hands and that even their allies are feeling the ground shaking beneath their feet. Back in 1998, Annan was dispatched to Baghdad to save the peace when American threats against Saddam no longer produced results. When Nato's bombing of Serbia failed to produce a swift surrender last year, the much-maligned UN was asked to pass resolutions that would give Milosevic a face-saving defeat. And now a devastating symbol, if ever there was one, of America's political defeat in the Middle East that ancient quadruped, the UN donkey, is clip- clopping through the very streets of Jerusalem. The symbolism of Mr Annan's arrival in the Middle East yesterday cannot be exaggerated. Remember that it was the United States that was supposed to be running the so-called "peace process", with the Europeans paying for it (providing they didn't interfere in the details), while the Palestinians were supposed to make the necessary "concessions" (ie capitulation) for the "two sides" Israel and "Palestine" to sign their "peace of the brave". Note those quotation marks. For the whole sorry story of the Oslo agreement perhaps the most flawed treaty ever negotiated for the Middle East has to be put in parenthesis, its lies and clichés carefully defined to remind one of reality. For Oslo is dead. That is what this latest Middle East crisis is about. The killings are not endangering the "peace process" as the Americans would have us believe but proof that the "peace process" is already dead. Mr Annan's visit thus symbolises not just the failure of the 1993 Oslo accord. It also reminds the Middle East that the original peace process the one that doesn't need quotation marks was a UN affair: UN Security Council resolution 242 of 1967 to be precise, the very foundation according to then President George Bush and his secretary of state, James Baker of the post-Gulf War Middle East peace. Baker specifically cited 242 when he invited Arab and Israeli leaders to the Madrid summit in 1991. Since then, we with the help of the State Department, Israel and a very large number of journalists have been encouraged to forget what 242 actually said. Its contents are simple. It emphasised "the inadmissability of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security" and demanded the "withdrawal of Israel's armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict". It insisted upon the termination of war and "respect for the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area". Now this is pretty strong stuff. Israel, like the Arab states, will be secure within its frontiers, although its forces must withdraw from the land occupied in the 1967 Middle East war: the occupied West Bank, the Gaza strip, Golan and Arab east Jerusalem. Only, of course, that didn't happen. Instead, we got the secretly negotiated Oslo agreement of 1993, which allowed Israel to renegotiate 242: henceforth, Israel would decide from which "territories occupied in the (1967) conflict" it would withdraw and from which occupied territories it would choose not to withdraw. The massive Jewish settlements, built illegally on Arab land, would not be abandoned. The frontiers of occupied Palestinian land would remain in Israeli hands. And so would Arab east Jerusalem, with its Islamic holy sites. Jerusalem would be the "eternal and unified capital" of Israel. The Americans, preposterously claiming to be "honest brokers" in the negotiations between their closest Middle East ally and the forgiven "terrorist" Arafat, went along with Israel's ambitions. And when at last, after the predictable collapse of the Camp David talks in July, Arafat baulked at the "sort of sovereignty" (this imperishable phrase courtesy of US Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright) he might be allowed in Jerusalem, President Clinton appeared on Israeli television to threaten him into submission, warning that the US embassy might be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem if he didn't fall into line, adding that Arafat was to blame for the Camp David débâcle. And now, so great is the sense of political collapse and danger, so impotent the United States, so hopeless the Oslo agreement, that the UN derided by Israel, humiliated and almost bankrupted by the United States' failure to pay its dues, distrusted by almost all the western powers is called
