Re: [Elecraft] MH2 mic and the K3
And a Mea Culpa from me. I have a MH2 that I use very infrequently with my K2 and it works well. When the question was asked, I noted the instructions were different for the K3 but failed to read them carefully. I should have tried my MH2 on my K3 before offering advice. I have only a casual interest in SSB and the MH2 will come in handy for those few special event stations I enjoy working. On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 6:10 PM NJMike wrote: > Gentlemen, thank you very much. One of the nice things about Elecraft is > all > the good feedback you get from users! > > Mike NJ2OM > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to clark.macau...@gmail.com > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 mic and the K3
Gentlemen, thank you very much. One of the nice things about Elecraft is all the good feedback you get from users! Mike NJ2OM -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 mic and the K3
I am sorry to disagree, but the MH2 will work fine for both the K2 and K3. They are interchangable. After the repair and configuration of over 1000 K2s, I am quite familiar with the K2 microphone configuration for various microphones. Yes, the K2 mic config header must be jumpered properly and have a bias resistor soldered between pins 1 and 6 on the rear of the mic jack, but once set up it will work. The original poster has his K2 set up to use that microphone already. Moving it to the K3 is simply a matter of setting the MIC SEL menu to FP L Bias. If the MH2 mic fails, the MH4 is a direct replacement. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/26/2021 4:34 PM, Clark Macaulay wrote: Download the MH2 instructions from Elecraft site and you will see that the mic has different jumper settings for the K3. I’m not sure if an MH2 configured for K2 will work unchanged with K3. The K2 config in the mic has a resistor that is not there for K3. At least that is the way I read it. Bottom line: mic should work fine with either rig but not interchangeable. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 mic and the K3
Download the MH2 instructions from Elecraft site and you will see that the mic has different jumper settings for the K3. I’m not sure if an MH2 configured for K2 will work unchanged with K3. The K2 config in the mic has a resistor that is not there for K3. At least that is the way I read it. Bottom line: mic should work fine with either rig but not interchangeable. On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:46 PM Jorge Diez (CX6VM-CW5W) < cx6vm.jo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Mike > > Yes, it works with K3 > > https://ftp.elecraft.com/MH2/E740030_MH2_Rev_D.pdf > > 73, > > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > > El 26 ene. 2021, a la(s) 15:14, NJMike escribió: > > > > Will the MH2 hand mic that was originally for the K2 work with the K3? > I > > know there is an MH4 mic now that works with both rigs. > > > > Thanks, > > Mike NJ2OM > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to cx6vm.jo...@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to clark.macau...@gmail.com -- Sent from Gmail Mobile __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 mic and the K3
Hello Mike Yes, it works with K3 https://ftp.elecraft.com/MH2/E740030_MH2_Rev_D.pdf 73, Enviado desde mi iPhone > El 26 ene. 2021, a la(s) 15:14, NJMike escribió: > > Will the MH2 hand mic that was originally for the K2 work with the K3? I > know there is an MH4 mic now that works with both rigs. > > Thanks, > Mike NJ2OM > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to cx6vm.jo...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 mic and the K3
Mike, Yes, no problem. It needs bias. The MH4 was the replacement when the MH2 was no longer able to be sourced by Elecraft. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/26/2021 1:13 PM, NJMike wrote: Will the MH2 hand mic that was originally for the K2 work with the K3? I know there is an MH4 mic now that works with both rigs. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2, MH4 mic compatibility?
Dear Eric, Thank you also! 73’s Fernando Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2020, at 11:13 AM, eric norris wrote: > > Don says they are functionaly identical. > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > >  > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 7:09 AM, Fernando Sindeaux > wrote: > Dear Friends, > Which one of those mics is the best in audio quality? > Best regards to all, > Fernando > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 27, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > > > Eric, > > > > Yes to both. > > > > 73, > > Don W3FPR > > > >> On 9/27/2020 7:04 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: > >> Will an MH2 mic work with a K3S, and will an MH4 mic work with a K2? > >> Thanks, > >> 73, Eric WD6DBM > >>  > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to > fsinde...@yahoo.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2, MH4 mic compatibility?
Dear Don, Thank you for the answer! Appreciate your kindness! All the best to all, 73’s Fernando Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > Fernando, > > They should be about the same. They use different cases, but the insides are > the same - an electret mic element. > The MH4 was introduced only because the case for the MH2 was no longer > available. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 9/28/2020 10:09 AM, Fernando Sindeaux wrote: >> Dear Friends, >> Which one of those mics is the best in audio quality? >> Best regards to all, >> Fernando >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2, MH4 mic compatibility?
Fernando, They should be about the same. They use different cases, but the insides are the same - an electret mic element. The MH4 was introduced only because the case for the MH2 was no longer available. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/28/2020 10:09 AM, Fernando Sindeaux wrote: Dear Friends, Which one of those mics is the best in audio quality? Best regards to all, Fernando Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2, MH4 mic compatibility?
Don says they are functionaly identical. 73, Eric WD6DBM  On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 7:09 AM, Fernando Sindeaux wrote: Dear Friends, Which one of those mics is the best in audio quality? Best regards to all, Fernando Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > Eric, > > Yes to both. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 9/27/2020 7:04 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: >> Will an MH2 mic work with a K3S, and will an MH4 mic work with a K2? >> Thanks, >> 73, Eric WD6DBM >>  >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to fsinde...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2, MH4 mic compatibility?
Dear Friends, Which one of those mics is the best in audio quality? Best regards to all, Fernando Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > Eric, > > Yes to both. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 9/27/2020 7:04 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: >> Will an MH2 mic work with a K3S, and will an MH4 mic work with a K2? >> Thanks, >> 73, Eric WD6DBM >>  >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to fsinde...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2, MH4 mic compatibility?
Eric, Yes to both. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/27/2020 7:04 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: Will an MH2 mic work with a K3S, and will an MH4 mic work with a K2? Thanks, 73, Eric WD6DBM  __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 on K3?
Hi Leroy, I recently bought a K3s and after eventually finding out that I had to change the default configuration to have the bias turned on it seemed to work. My MH2 came with an eight pin plug already fitted that uses the front panel mic socket. I still have a problem in that I don't find any difference between the high and low mic settings and need to have my mic gain set at 2 or 3 as well as speak with the microphone about 3 inches away from my mouth otherwise I over modulate which gives a very poor signal. I am sure something is not right but can't find what is causing this at the moment. It may be my big mouth but I don't have this problem with my KX3 which uses the MH3 microphone and "expected" mic settings. Everything just works fine on that. When time permits I will look into fitting a small attenuator into the mic lead so that I can get a more stable ALC reading. I haven't yet tried using the back panel mic socket but may give it a try soon with my Sennheiser headset to see if it overcomes some of the mic gain issues I have with the MH2. Andrew G8BYB -Original Message- From: lmarion Sent: 14 June 2016 01:48 Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 on K3? Where is this plug in for a MH2 on the front panel? Mine won t work on the rear panel plug in. I ordered a MH3 as well, II t won t work either. What microphone are you guys using on the K3S that uses the 8 pin front panel plug? New K3S that I can t talk on. Leroy AB7CE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 vs MH3 mic question
Ed, No they are different. Not only that the MH3 has a 3.5mm TRRS plug and a different mechanism for the MIC buttons(for the KX3) and the MH2 has an 8 pin Foster plug (for the K2, K3 and K3S). The shape of the mic head is different too. The mic element *may* be the same, but I am not certain of that. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/30/2016 11:56 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: Does anyone know if the MH2 is the same mic as the MH3? Tnx and 73 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 vs MH3 mic question
The MH2 Hand Microphone is the result of a collaboration between Bob Heil of Heil Sound and Elecraft. The MH2 uses a high performance condenser element designed by Bob. It is optimally matched to the K2 and provides excellent SSB audio quality. MH2 Features: - - High output Heil microphone element - - Punchy, High Quality SSB audio in the Heil Sound tradition. - - Pre-wired 8 pin connector for the K2 - - Includes microphone mounting clip The MH3 microphone is designed for use with the Elecraft KX3 transceiver. It contains a high-performance condenser microphone element optimized for SSB, AM and FM use, a push-to-talk button and two function buttons to control the KX3 from the microphone 73 Bob, K4TAX On 1/30/2016 10:56 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: Does anyone know if the MH2 is the same mic as the MH3? Tnx and 73 ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
Wow, bingo! Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI Sent from my android device. -Original Message- From: Al Lorona alor...@sbcglobal.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 23:08 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question The best and easiest fix for bad K3 audio is to simply tell the other ham you're using a Kensucom. He will respond with, Oh yeah, your Kensucom has great audio, old man! Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wa...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
I've never owned or used a K2. However I have assembled two of the K3 kits for others who felt they were not capable of doing so. Thus I have had the opportunity to use two different K3 radios. One of the very serious short comings, and main reason for me not purchasing a K3 earlier, is the unsatisfactory quality of the audio. To that end, with changes announced in the K3S, specifically in the audio section, I have a new K3S on order. Let's hope it performs or it will be sold. I've used other radios which do have great audio, both on receive and transmit. I find it very important that a good mike suited to the user's voice and good microphone technique is a large part of the key to great audio on SSB. {key words here {suited to the user's voice} and {good microphone technique}. 73 Bob, K4TAX Soon to be a new K3S owner. On 7/9/2015 10:06 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: Has anyone sent their Heil MH2 to AB5N Bob Nagy for his upgrade? I've never been impressed with my K2 SSB tx audio and I've done everything Elecraft has recommended to improve the TX audio, including sending it to Gary for alignment -- Gary did a wonderful job aligning my K2, but the K2 TX audio still leaves a lot to be desired!! Thanks for any advice you can offer regardnig the AB5N mods. 73 ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
Bob, With such positive expectations, I'm sure your K3S will have great audio :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 7/9/15 4:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
I'm missing something. Wayne said that's in the K3 now. He did not say only the K3S did he? Tom NY4I Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771 On Jul 9, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net wrote: This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to t...@xmission.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
K3S ONLY as of now. I'm missing something. Wayne said that's in the K3 now. He did not say only the K3S did he? Tom NY4I Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771 On Jul 9, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net wrote: This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to t...@xmission.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@flex.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I think Bob is referring to the new, improved RX audio (I think it's only RX) in the K3S DSP board, not yet available as a K3 upgrade. Phil W7OX On 7/9/15 5:52 PM, Tom Schaefer wrote: I'm missing something. Wayne said that's in the K3 now. He did not say only the K3S did he? Tom NY4I Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771 On Jul 9, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net wrote: This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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But in the works and coming. 73, Guy K2AV On Thursday, July 9, 2015, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote: I think Bob is referring to the new, improved RX audio (I think it's only RX) in the K3S DSP board, not yet available as a K3 upgrade. Phil W7OX On 7/9/15 5:52 PM, Tom Schaefer wrote: I'm missing something. Wayne said that's in the K3 now. He did not say only the K3S did he? Tom NY4I Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771 On Jul 9, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net wrote: This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k2av@gmail.com -- Sent via Gmail Mobile on my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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The best and easiest fix for bad K3 audio is to simply tell the other ham you're using a Kensucom. He will respond with, Oh yeah, your Kensucom has great audio, old man! Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Bob, Are you saying the K3 TX audio was unsatisfactory? If so, that's the first report of it I've heard (assuming everything is adjusted correctly). BTW -- re the thread topic: My K2 has always received outstanding audio reports, though nowadays I use my K3. But I never much liked the MH2 mic due to the really strong spring in the PTT :-) I use a Kenwood M43 with my K3 (and it is newly synthed). I'm not familiar with the AB5N mods, though I may have done something of the sort on K2 #380. 73, Phil W7OX On 7/9/15 8:38 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: I've never owned or used a K2. However I have assembled two of the K3 kits for others who felt they were not capable of doing so. Thus I have had the opportunity to use two different K3 radios. One of the very serious short comings, and main reason for me not purchasing a K3 earlier, is the unsatisfactory quality of the audio. To that end, with changes announced in the K3S, specifically in the audio section, I have a new K3S on order. Let's hope it performs or it will be sold. I've used other radios which do have great audio, both on receive and transmit. I find it very important that a good mike suited to the user's voice and good microphone technique is a large part of the key to great audio on SSB. {key words here {suited to the user's voice} and {good microphone technique}. 73 Bob, K4TAX Soon to be a new K3S owner. On 7/9/2015 10:06 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: Has anyone sent their Heil MH2 to AB5N Bob Nagy for his upgrade? I've never been impressed with my K2 SSB tx audio and I've done everything Elecraft has recommended to improve the TX audio, including sending it to Gary for alignment -- Gary did a wonderful job aligning my K2, but the K2 TX audio still leaves a lot to be desired!! Thanks for any advice you can offer regardnig the AB5N mods. 73 ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE From: Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com To: Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question I was a bit shocked, or at least surprised, at what K4TAX was saying. I think he might mean the quality of the audio plus speaker system of the default K3, not TX audio. Or, at least hopefully he means that. I know others have complained about the level of audio volume or whatever in listening to a K3’s built in speaker. But, I had to say that no complaints have I ever heard about TX audio. In fact, if anyone chooses to comment on my K3 TX Audio, it is a very good comment on the quality of the signal and audio. I don’t use my K3 with the built in speakers — use stereo West Mountain Radio COMspkr or CM500 headset instead and I am fine with the resulting audio of the K3. On Jul 9, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote: Bob, Are you saying the K3 TX audio was unsatisfactory? If so, that's the first report of it I've heard (assuming everything is adjusted correctly). BTW -- re the thread topic: My K2 has always received outstanding audio reports, though nowadays I use my K3. But I never much liked the MH2 mic due to the really strong spring in the PTT :-) I use a Kenwood M43 with my K3 (and it is newly synthed). I'm not familiar with the AB5N mods, though I may have done something of the sort on K2 #380. 73, Phil W7OX On 7/9/15 8:38 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: I've never owned or used a K2. However I have assembled two of the K3 kits for others who felt they were not capable of doing so. Thus I have had the opportunity to use two different K3 radios. One of the very serious short comings, and main reason for me not purchasing a K3 earlier, is the unsatisfactory quality of the audio. To that end, with changes announced in the K3S, specifically in the audio section, I have a new K3S on order. Let's hope it performs or it will be sold. I've used other radios which do have great audio, both on receive and transmit. I find it very important that a good mike suited to the user's voice and good microphone technique is a large part of the key to great audio on SSB. {key words here {suited to the user's voice} and {good microphone technique}. 73 Bob, K4TAX Soon to be a new K3S owner. On 7/9/2015 10:06 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: Has anyone sent their Heil MH2 to AB5N Bob Nagy for his upgrade? I've never been impressed with my K2 SSB tx audio and I've done everything Elecraft has recommended to improve the TX audio, including sending it to Gary for alignment -- Gary did a wonderful job aligning my K2, but the K2 TX audio still leaves a lot to be desired!! Thanks for any advice you can offer regardnig the AB5N mods. 73 ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to farrerfo...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Yeah, this *has* to be a mis-communications somewhere. I use the Proset with the iC2 electret element from Elecraft. I regularly get unsolicited really great audio comments in contests, I'll likely get several in the IARU this weakend if I decide to try out phone. I have a nondescript, almost non-noticeable voice [latter based on the number of times my wife interrupts me with a totally different subject :-)] so I know it's not me, I do NOT sound like Walter Cronkite. Most non-carbon mics are pretty flat over the nominal 2.8 KHz communications bandwidth, I really don't think you need a mic to match your voice. The K3's TX EQ can make a world of difference however, and apparently does for me. I have the SSB adapter in my K2 but I've never connected a mic to it. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 7/9/2015 3:16 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: I was a bit shocked, or at least surprised, at what K4TAX was saying. I think he might mean the quality of the audio plus speaker system of the default K3, not TX audio. Or, at least hopefully he means that. I know others have complained about the level of audio volume or whatever in listening to a K3’s built in speaker. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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My voice, i am told, makes any mic sound bad. So states the bride.:-( The K3 EQ corrects this birth defect. So say others..:-) Gary Vk1ZZ K3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT On 10/07/2015 8:52 AM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: Yeah, this *has* to be a mis-communications somewhere. I use the Proset with the iC2 electret element from Elecraft. I regularly get unsolicited really great audio comments in contests, I'll likely get several in the IARU this weakend if I decide to try out phone. I have a nondescript, almost non-noticeable voice [latter based on the number of times my wife interrupts me with a totally different subject :-)] so I know it's not me, I do NOT sound like Walter Cronkite. Most non-carbon mics are pretty flat over the nominal 2.8 KHz communications bandwidth, I really don't think you need a mic to match your voice. The K3's TX EQ can make a world of difference however, and apparently does for me. I have the SSB adapter in my K2 but I've never connected a mic to it. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 7/9/2015 3:16 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: I was a bit shocked, or at least surprised, at what K4TAX was saying. I think he might mean the quality of the audio plus speaker system of the default K3, not TX audio. Or, at least hopefully he means that. I know others have complained about the level of audio volume or whatever in listening to a K3’s built in speaker. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Ed, Several responses to your post have brought comments regarding the K3 TX audio, but I have not seen any specifically addressing the K2. The K3 TX audio can be tailored using the 8 band TX Equalizer which can be used to make most any microphone sound like the best studio microphone in the world if you are inclined to do a bit of tailoring - no need for an external equalizer, it is built in. If you have a K2, you may be interested in the following - If not, you may want to hit the delete key now, the rest is K2 related. I do not think Gary has aligned many K2s in the past few years. I have handled most of the more recent Elecraft K2 repairs, and do not see your call in my records, so I am wondering just how long ago that alignment was performed. You may want to look at your K2 rather than the microphone. I would hate to see you spend $50 or so on a mod to your microphone and find no added benefit because of limitations in your K2 or your SSBA and SSBC menu settings. K2s that I have aligned often garner unsolicited TX audio reports, and I have received that report from many customers. The MH2 does have the peaking response in the 2800 to 3200 Hz region - the same as many other ham microphones. How old is your K2, and what is the width of the KSB2 filter (2.1kHz or 2.4kHz)? The early KSB2 boards had the 2.1kHz filter while later ones have the 2.4kHz filter - that filter is used on transmit as well as receive. To determine which one you have, look at the capacitor row just to the left of the crystals on the KSB2 board - if all 6 capacitor locations are populated, you have the earlier 2.1 kHz filter, but if there are only 4 capacitors fitted, it is the 2.4 kHz filter. Should you want to change the filter width, Elecraft has the SSBCAPKT available to do that - but check the crystals first. If they are labeled anything other than 49136-S, you must replace the crystals when widening the KSB2 filter. If your KSB2 has the older crystals, your base K2 RF board likely has the older crystals as well and will result in better filters if replaced. Elecraft has a set of 7 matched crystals as well as a matched set of 14 available. The other thing that will affect your SSB transmit (and receive) audio is the placement of the audio passband for LSB and USB. That may be corrected by proper filter alignment (CAL FIL). There is another thing that can affect the K2 TX audio, and that is too much bass. The KSB2 does allow low bass frequencies to be transmitted. While some hams like that, it uses excessive power in the PEP envelope. You can reduce that response by changing 2 capacitors on the KSB2 board. Change C34 to a 0.47uF electrolytic and change C32 to a capacitor between 0.0033 and 0.005 uF. (4700pF is an easily available mid-range value). 73, Don W3FPR On 7/9/2015 11:06 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: Has anyone sent their Heil MH2 to AB5N Bob Nagy for his upgrade? I've never been impressed with my K2 SSB tx audio and I've done everything Elecraft has recommended to improve the TX audio, including sending it to Gary for alignment -- Gary did a wonderful job aligning my K2, but the K2 TX audio still leaves a lot to be desired!! Thanks for any advice you can offer regardnig the AB5N mods. 73 ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I was a bit shocked, or at least surprised, at what K4TAX was saying. I think he might mean the quality of the audio plus speaker system of the default K3, not TX audio. Or, at least hopefully he means that. I know others have complained about the level of audio volume or whatever in listening to a K3’s built in speaker. But, I had to say that no complaints have I ever heard about TX audio. In fact, if anyone chooses to comment on my K3 TX Audio, it is a very good comment on the quality of the signal and audio. I don’t use my K3 with the built in speakers — use stereo West Mountain Radio COMspkr or CM500 headset instead and I am fine with the resulting audio of the K3. On Jul 9, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote: Bob, Are you saying the K3 TX audio was unsatisfactory? If so, that's the first report of it I've heard (assuming everything is adjusted correctly). BTW -- re the thread topic: My K2 has always received outstanding audio reports, though nowadays I use my K3. But I never much liked the MH2 mic due to the really strong spring in the PTT :-) I use a Kenwood M43 with my K3 (and it is newly synthed). I'm not familiar with the AB5N mods, though I may have done something of the sort on K2 #380. 73, Phil W7OX On 7/9/15 8:38 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: I've never owned or used a K2. However I have assembled two of the K3 kits for others who felt they were not capable of doing so. Thus I have had the opportunity to use two different K3 radios. One of the very serious short comings, and main reason for me not purchasing a K3 earlier, is the unsatisfactory quality of the audio. To that end, with changes announced in the K3S, specifically in the audio section, I have a new K3S on order. Let's hope it performs or it will be sold. I've used other radios which do have great audio, both on receive and transmit. I find it very important that a good mike suited to the user's voice and good microphone technique is a large part of the key to great audio on SSB. {key words here {suited to the user's voice} and {good microphone technique}. 73 Bob, K4TAX Soon to be a new K3S owner. On 7/9/2015 10:06 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: Has anyone sent their Heil MH2 to AB5N Bob Nagy for his upgrade? I've never been impressed with my K2 SSB tx audio and I've done everything Elecraft has recommended to improve the TX audio, including sending it to Gary for alignment -- Gary did a wonderful job aligning my K2, but the K2 TX audio still leaves a lot to be desired!! Thanks for any advice you can offer regardnig the AB5N mods. 73 ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic question
The MH2 has an 8-pin connector and I believe the KX3 mic uses a 1/8 tip-sleeve-ring plug. You might be able to make an adapter for it though. Mike KI0HA On 9/14/2014 2:06 AM, Eddy via Elecraft wrote: Does the MH2 mic for the K2 work with the KX3? tnx ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mtebe...@mchsi.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic question
Ed, No, the connector will not fit the KX3. If the question is 'will the MH2 work using a homebrew adapter', then the answer is yes. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/14/2014 3:06 AM, Eddy via Elecraft wrote: Does the MH2 mic for the K2 work with the KX3? tnx ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w3...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 and Proset K2 interchangeability
Ray, Yes, they share the same pinout, no problem. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/9/2013 6:31 PM, Ray Collins wrote: Hello, Can you please tell me if the MH2 hand microphone and Proset K2 boom headset are interchangeable without changing the jumpers on the microphone configuration block of my K2? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic and MKII interface
Kenwood mic does not use bias (it is dynamic). Elecraft requires bias. Measure between pins 1 and 7 to confirm bias (2.2 to 3.3V - industry standard for AV mics). Also check to make sure the microphone is wired correctly - mic ground must be on pin 7, PTT ground must be on pin 8. If the two are reversed the mic will not receive bias. Elecraft connects both 7 and 8 to the same ground but the mic and PTT grounds are different in microKEYER/microKEYER II (and most other manufacturers). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/24/2013 1:05 AM, Ricardo PY2PT wrote: Dear Joe, I've tried both jumpers position and nothing!!! With my kenwood hand mic everything is ok. But with the MH-2 mic (even changing the jumper position) nothing!! Best Regards Em 23/02/2013, às 23:31, Joe Subich, W4TV escreveu: The MH2 is an electret mic wired with a Foster plug having Elecraft's Kenwood compatible pin assignments. The microHAM DB37-EL-K3R and DB37-EL-K23 cable sets are configured for the Electaft/Kenwood standard and the supplied Foster to RJ-45 adapter cable allows connecting the MH2 to the rear panel MIC jack (RJ45). Since the MH-2 is an electret mic and requires bias voltage on pin 1, it is necessary to install the electret jumper for the RJ-45 jack located just in front of the three trimmers in the center of the MK II circuit board as shown in step 5 of Preparing microKEYER II for Use - page 8 of the microKEYER II User Manual. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America, LLC. http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM On 2/23/2013 7:25 PM, Ricardo PY2PT wrote: Dear guys, Please, any friend use the hand mic (MH-2) with a MicrokeyerII interface? Best Regards Ric PY2PT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic and MKII interface
The MH2 is an electret mic wired with a Foster plug having Elecraft's Kenwood compatible pin assignments. The microHAM DB37-EL-K3R and DB37-EL-K23 cable sets are configured for the Electaft/Kenwood standard and the supplied Foster to RJ-45 adapter cable allows connecting the MH2 to the rear panel MIC jack (RJ45). Since the MH-2 is an electret mic and requires bias voltage on pin 1, it is necessary to install the electret jumper for the RJ-45 jack located just in front of the three trimmers in the center of the MK II circuit board as shown in step 5 of Preparing microKEYER II for Use - page 8 of the microKEYER II User Manual. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America, LLC. http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM On 2/23/2013 7:25 PM, Ricardo PY2PT wrote: Dear guys, Please, any friend use the hand mic (MH-2) with a MicrokeyerII interface? Best Regards Ric PY2PT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic and MKII interface
Dear Joe, I've tried both jumpers position and nothing!!! With my kenwood hand mic everything is ok. But with the MH-2 mic (even changing the jumper position) nothing!! Best Regards Em 23/02/2013, às 23:31, Joe Subich, W4TV escreveu: The MH2 is an electret mic wired with a Foster plug having Elecraft's Kenwood compatible pin assignments. The microHAM DB37-EL-K3R and DB37-EL-K23 cable sets are configured for the Electaft/Kenwood standard and the supplied Foster to RJ-45 adapter cable allows connecting the MH2 to the rear panel MIC jack (RJ45). Since the MH-2 is an electret mic and requires bias voltage on pin 1, it is necessary to install the electret jumper for the RJ-45 jack located just in front of the three trimmers in the center of the MK II circuit board as shown in step 5 of Preparing microKEYER II for Use - page 8 of the microKEYER II User Manual. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America, LLC. http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM On 2/23/2013 7:25 PM, Ricardo PY2PT wrote: Dear guys, Please, any friend use the hand mic (MH-2) with a MicrokeyerII interface? Best Regards Ric PY2PT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2
At Elecraft? ;-)) 73, Olli - DH8BQA - Original Message - From: Norman Zinn kb8...@att.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:08 PM Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 I AM IN NEED OF A MIC CORD FOR A MH2 MIC. DOES ANYONE NO WHERE I CAN BUY ONE. NORM KB8EEF / AAV5VW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - eMail ist virenfrei. Von AVG uberpruft - www.avg.de Version: 10.0.1416 / Virendatenbank: 2109/4141 - Ausgabedatum: 13.01.2012 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone and K3 (K1DWZ)
There is an ELECRAFT Application Note Front Panel Microphone Circuit Modification. You have it on your K3? 73s - Twan - PA0KV |I have a situation with the CMP and ACL graphs indicating and a scratchy |noise that happens many times when I press the PTT button pn my MH2 mic. |If I tap it or speak into it the graphs return to normal and the noise |disappears I grounded pin 2 on the mic jack on the K3 and there is no noise or |graph indication. I connected my Kenwood mic and it happens with it |also. Could there be some RF feedback getting into the mic circuit ? |K1DWZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone audio quality
Thanks for help Don. I just bought mic new from Elecraft. You hit on something that might be a problem. I remember some resistor changes to the KSB2 or audio in circuits. I will look at the mods section, I changed something way back, But don't remember if it was Elecraft mod or not. 73 Roy AB7CE -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 5:24 PM To: Leroy Marion Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone audio quality Did you purchase this K2 used, and/or do you know what is inside it? What I am asking is if any mods have been made to the KSB2 option, or maybe a mic preamp has been installed. There have been several non-Elecraft mods to the KSB2, and some will work with the MH2 microphone while others could cause distortion. 73, Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone audio quality
Roy, It may be easier to compare the parts values with those listed in the KSB2 parts list. The schematic is also helpful when doing parts value checks. To me, that certainly is easier than going through a bunch of possible mods - they are numerous. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/26/2011 9:11 AM, Leroy Marion wrote: Thanks for help Don. I just bought mic new from Elecraft. You hit on something that might be a problem. I remember some resistor changes to the KSB2 or audio in circuits. I will look at the mods section, I changed something way back, But don't remember if it was Elecraft mod or not. 73 Roy AB7CE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue
Do you also have a jumper on pin 6 of the microphone configuration header? You can check quickly by measuring for voltage at pin 6 of the microphone jack - it should be about 5 volts. You can check for proper soldering of the bias resistor by measuring for a similar voltage at mic jack pin 1. If your Heil ProSet uses a dynamic element, you may (or may not) be able to use it with the bias resistor in place. If there is no DC blocking capacitor, the mic element may sound funny due to the DC current through it. The Elecraft/Heil Proset-K2 uses an electret element, and the Heil ProSet-iC (Icom) does too (and those need bias), but as far as I know, the others use a dynamic element. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/25/2011 7:52 AM, KA1YMX wrote: I have a K2 with the SSB option installed and I am having issues getting the MH2 microphone to work. I am currently using a Heil Pro-Set with the K2 and everything is working fine. I have checked the back of the microphone connector and everything appears to be connected properly. The 5.6k resistor is installed between pins 1 and 6 and all of the jumpers are installed. The PTT button on the MH2 works but my voice is not heard on a separate receiver. According to my manual I should be able to use the same microphone settings for the Mh2 and pro-set. Can someone help me out? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue
All of the jumpers are installed. I measured the voltage on pins 1 and 6 and the voltage is approximately 3.1 vdc. I can still use the K2 with the Pro-Set and it works fine. The MH2 does not work even though the KSB2 manual says the configuration is the same. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/MH2-Microphone-issue-tp6064358p6064593.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue
The 5v regulator U5 on the control board has an output of 3.0v. I disconnected the front panel from the control panel and the output is still around 3.0v. Do you think the lower voltage could affect the operation of the microphone? I also noticed there is an update to grounding the microphone jack. Could the lack of ground some how cause this? -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/MH2-Microphone-issue-tp6064358p6064638.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue
The low voltage is probably your problem. I would think 3 volts is too low for the microphone element. I know 3 volts is too low for proper operation of the microprocessor, and since you have not said anything about other strange symptoms, I would first check your voltmeter. Do you read 5 volts or 3 volts at the output terminal of RF Board U8 - it should be 5 volts. If you read 3 volts at RF U8, try an different voltmeter. Is the regulator getting quite warm? If so, you may have a fault on the 5 volt line somewhere. If it is not heating up, the most likely reason is a bad regulator. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/25/2011 9:24 AM, KA1YMX wrote: The 5v regulator U5 on the control board has an output of 3.0v. I disconnected the front panel from the control panel and the output is still around 3.0v. Do you think the lower voltage could affect the operation of the microphone? I also noticed there is an update to grounding the microphone jack. Could the lack of ground some how cause this? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue
I replaced the 5v regulator and the 5v line is now reading 5vdc. The MH2 still does not work. I also plugged in the Pro-Set and the pro-set works fine. Do you think the microphone could be broken? I have never used it before so I am not sure it works. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/MH2-Microphone-issue-tp6064358p6065062.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue
Yes, it is possible that your MH2 has a problem. Did you buy it used? In that case, someone may have re-wired the microphone plug for some other radio. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/25/2011 11:29 AM, KA1YMX wrote: I replaced the 5v regulator and the 5v line is now reading 5vdc. The MH2 still does not work. I also plugged in the Pro-Set and the pro-set works fine. Do you think the microphone could be broken? I have never used it before so I am not sure it works. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue
I bought it directly from Elecraft. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/MH2-Microphone-issue-tp6064358p6065182.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue
I would say a faulty mic. is a very good possibility. I am on #3. The original mic worked properly for about 3 months. The replacement did not function at all but #3 seems to play just fine. I feel as though there must have been a bad batch Other than that issue the K3 and Elecraft's first quality service and support can not be beat Mike WB6CLZK3 #4522. -- Original Message -- From: KA1YMX natesm...@hotmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:29:34 -0800 (PST) I replaced the 5v regulator and the 5v line is now reading 5vdc. The MH2 still does not work. I also plugged in the Pro-Set and the pro-set works fine. Do you think the microphone could be broken? I have never used it before so I am not sure it works. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/MH2-Microphone-issue-tp6064358p6065062.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d67eb609539558581fst01vuc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone audio quality
I just purchased a MH2 to use with K2. I'm getting reports of 5/9 but with some distortion or rattle audio with mic gain on 1. If I try other mics, I get clean audio reports but way down in signal strength. The resistor is installed and jumpers there. A Kenwood dynamic mike wired for K2 gets the best audio quality report, but with mic gain on 3, I barely put out any power. Did I get a bad one or I am I doing something wrong? What is the ideal impedance? I guess you need to use power required mics only? Thanks, Roy AB7CE I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone audio quality
Roy, With the Elecraft MH2, set the Mic Gain to 1 and the compression as you desire, but I like to use 3:1 for normal operation. Watch the bargraph to see an indication of your peak power output - the peaks should be somewhere near the power requested level. I usually find with any microphone on the K2, the compression needs to be advanced to obtain the proper leak power output. Try it with your MH2 and see what the reports are. Better yet, operate into a dully load and couple another receiver with a short wire antenna so you have about an S-9 signal - then record the audio output and evaluate the results. Unless you are well acquainted with the operator on the other end, on-the-air reports of quality can be taken with a grain of salt. Did you purchase this K2 used, and/or do you know what is inside it? What I am asking is if any mods have been made to the KSB2 option, or maybe a mic preamp has been installed. There have been several non-Elecraft mods to the KSB2, and some will work with the MH2 microphone while others could cause distortion. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/25/2011 6:42 PM, Leroy Marion wrote: I just purchased a MH2 to use with K2. I'm getting reports of 5/9 but with some distortion or rattle audio with mic gain on 1. If I try other mics, I get clean audio reports but way down in signal strength. The resistor is installed and jumpers there. A Kenwood dynamic mike wired for K2 gets the best audio quality report, but with mic gain on 3, I barely put out any power. Did I get a bad one or I am I doing something wrong? What is the ideal impedance? I guess you need to use power required mics only? Thanks, Roy AB7CE I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone audio quality
G'day Matt, I use my K3 with an MH2 microphone most of the time though for contesting I switch over to a Yamaha CM500 headset. I have found the MH2 to be an excellent mike but you will need to set the TX EQ's 3 lowest bands to their lowest level. Leave all other bands at the 0db point ant you will find that your transmitted audio to be pretty well 'spot on'. Most people I have spoken to with K3's and MH2's use exactly the same settings with great results. (BTW, the same settings also work quite well for the CM500 here too!) I hope this helps. 73 de Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF Innisfail, QLD, Australia Elecraft K3# 4257 + PR6 - K144XV = multiband goodness! - Original Message - From: Matt Zilmer To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 2:42 AM Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone audio quality Considering another K3 for mobile and portable use. My shack contains K3 #24, using a Heil Goldline on the narrow setting. This combination produces very clear and penetrating TX audio. K3 mobile use means a handheld mic, which the Goldie is not. I'm considering the MH2 (and other handheld mics) for this mobile/portable ECOM application, but have only heard one MH2/K3 on the air, and that was without a comparison test (and it was very brief). I wasn't underwhelmed, but didn't get enough to go on for a fair evaluation. Most of my operations right now are with Navy-Marine Corps MARS but I also work a little SSB on the weekends, and will do more of this when the mobile is in place. Like anyone else, I want it to sound as good as the base rig, if possible. Doesn't anyone have feedback on the MH2 with the K3? For example: - Clarity of the voice, how narrow banded does it sound without TX EQ? - What is the difference between the Goldie on Narrow and the MH2? - Any recommended TX EQ settings? - Has anyone run comparison spectra, using the K3 with MH2 and some other mobile mic(s)? Would prefer the RX spectrums if available. Thanks for ANY feedback! 73, matt W6NIA / NNN0UET K3 #24, K2 #2810, etc. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic arrived DUH!
Neil, The resistance is not critical, so if you have a resistor (of any tolerance) between 4.7k and 6.8k on hand use that. Did you have a tan envelope on the package with the 8 jumpers for the microphone configuration header? If so, look very carefully in that envelope, the resistor can get twisted inside and will not fall out - tear the envelope open if necessary. 73, Don W3FPR Neil Shubert wrote: Hi ALL I got my MH2 mic or the k2 and there was no resistor in the box ACK! I know its a 5.6K Green Blue red, and its a 1/4 watt but is there a better choice? and should I get a gold or a silver tolerance? Off to the telephone shack tomorrow -Neil __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic arrived DUH!
Don, Thank you for the help, and I did just that, tore the envelope up and it still wasn't there. Radio is waiting, its ok, its been weeks, it will wait 1 more day. -Neil On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Neil, The resistance is not critical, so if you have a resistor (of any tolerance) between 4.7k and 6.8k on hand use that. Did you have a tan envelope on the package with the 8 jumpers for the microphone configuration header? If so, look very carefully in that envelope, the resistor can get twisted inside and will not fall out - tear the envelope open if necessary. 73, Don W3FPR Neil Shubert wrote: Hi ALL I got my MH2 mic or the k2 and there was no resistor in the box ACK! I know its a 5.6K Green Blue red, and its a 1/4 watt but is there a better choice? and should I get a gold or a silver tolerance? Off to the telephone shack tomorrow -Neil __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
Hi mate,I do have the MH-2 and certainly is big and PTT swithc is little hard to press but it stays there even my thumb finger moves,I don't have that mechanical problem you have,I am sure some one on the group will come out with a solution and congratulations for your new K3,I am taking mine to a DXPedition to Peanut island here in South east FL,we will operating the CQ WW Contest in CW as W4K special call,73 AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:08 AM G'day everyone! First of all, After having given my K3 its first HF hitout this last weekend for our (Myself - VK4BOF, Gary - VK4FD Dale - VK4DMC) mini dxpedition for the World Flora Fauna at Undara Lava Tubes National Park in North Queensland, Australia I must say that I am more than impressed with my new K3. It performed flawlessly and was a real pleasure to use, the MH2 microphone is however another matter. Whilst its transmitted audio quality is excellent it appears that you must be a 400lb gorilla to use the damned thing, the TX button is so stiff to use. :-) And even when you get the button in, it must be only barely making contact that as soon as you relieve any pressure at all from the button, the radio goes back to RX mode. Does anyone else have this issue? Jeff Cochrane VK4BOF Innisfail QLD Australia Elecraft K3 #4257 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
Hi Jeff The button is a bit mushy lacking a positive action. Another problem that I have with the MH2 is its curly cord. The curly cord is so stiff that it pulls the radio if you try and stretch it a bit. It just does not have enough stretch, even if pulled a small amount. I like using a hand mic. What I suggest you do is try and getting an original Icom HM36 hand mic. This Icom mic sounds pretty good on the K3. It has a nice soft curly cord and the button has a nice positive smooth micro switch click. The current model HM36 is junk made in China, try and get an original Japanese made HM36 that came with the early Icom radios. Just make sure you throw the Icom radio in the bin and keep the mic! 73 John --- On Wed, 5/26/10, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 7:08 PM G'day everyone! First of all, After having given my K3 its first HF hitout this last weekend for our (Myself - VK4BOF, Gary - VK4FD Dale - VK4DMC) mini dxpedition for the World Flora Fauna at Undara Lava Tubes National Park in North Queensland, Australia I must say that I am more than impressed with my new K3. It performed flawlessly and was a real pleasure to use, the MH2 microphone is however another matter. Whilst its transmitted audio quality is excellent it appears that you must be a 400lb gorilla to use the damned thing, the TX button is so stiff to use. :-) And even when you get the button in, it must be only barely making contact that as soon as you relieve any pressure at all from the button, the radio goes back to RX mode. Does anyone else have this issue? Jeff Cochrane VK4BOF Innisfail QLD Australia Elecraft K3 #4257 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
Hi Paul What are your mods? Did you just use a capacitor to roll off the bass? Someone once told me that the Heil HC5 is sound transducer that was very common on PC motherboards. I lost the web link of the manufacturer, which is a pity since the HC5 seems to produce good audio on just about every radio that I have used. The only problem is that you cant buy the HC5 cartridge anymore. John --- On Wed, 5/26/10, paulb xtr348...@xtra.co.nz wrote: From: paulb xtr348...@xtra.co.nz Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 10:53 PM The MH2 mic PTT may be getting caught in the rubber surround. It is easy to undo the cover. Note that the PTT button only fits one-way, there is a cut away slide which fits onto the switch. For my own use the mic insert had a tad to much bass, it has been slightly modded here to suit. regards Paul zl1ajy -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/MH2-Microphone-Issue-tp5106621p5107093.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
juergen wrote: Hi Paul What are your mods? Did you just use a capacitor to roll off the bass? Someone once told me that the Heil HC5 is sound transducer that was very common on PC motherboards. I lost the web link of the manufacturer, which is a pity since the HC5 seems to produce good audio on just about every radio that I have used. The only problem is that you cant buy the HC5 cartridge anymore. John Have you asked Heil at i...@heilsound.com mailto:i...@heilsound.com 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
Have you asked Heil Yes. Heil will no longer sell the bare elements. One must purchase a D-104 upgrade kit in order to get the element. In addition, Heil will not sell replacement clamshells for the original Proset mic boom for repair purposes. In spite of their claims, Heil do not care about customer service. The cost to repair a damaged ProSet is more than replacing it with a Yamaha CM-500 and the ProSet would have to be shipped to Heil rather than allow the user to make a relatively simple change of mic element and housing. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/27/2010 9:54 AM, Mike wrote: juergen wrote: Hi Paul What are your mods? Did you just use a capacitor to roll off the bass? Someone once told me that the Heil HC5 is sound transducer that was very common on PC motherboards. I lost the web link of the manufacturer, which is a pity since the HC5 seems to produce good audio on just about every radio that I have used. The only problem is that you cant buy the HC5 cartridge anymore. John Have you asked Heil at i...@heilsound.commailto:i...@heilsound.com 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
Well durn! I saw that kit, but it didn't say which element it was. There's no way to order from their website either AFAICT. I needed some of the foam pads that go inside the Pro-Set ear muffs, and had to do a phone order. I now have the CM-500 on the K3 and the Pr0-Set on the backup PRO II. So the real downside of dealing with Elecraft is we can so easily get used to great customer service. :-P 73, Mike NF4L Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Have you asked Heil Yes. Heil will no longer sell the bare elements. One must purchase a D-104 upgrade kit in order to get the element. In addition, Heil will not sell replacement clamshells for the original Proset mic boom for repair purposes. In spite of their claims, Heil do not care about customer service. The cost to repair a damaged ProSet is more than replacing it with a Yamaha CM-500 and the ProSet would have to be shipped to Heil rather than allow the user to make a relatively simple change of mic element and housing. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/27/2010 9:54 AM, Mike wrote: juergen wrote: Hi Paul What are your mods? Did you just use a capacitor to roll off the bass? Someone once told me that the Heil HC5 is sound transducer that was very common on PC motherboards. I lost the web link of the manufacturer, which is a pity since the HC5 seems to produce good audio on just about every radio that I have used. The only problem is that you cant buy the HC5 cartridge anymore. John Have you asked Heil at i...@heilsound.commailto:i...@heilsound.com 73, Mike NF4L _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
Jeff At the suggestion of Ian GM3SEK, I removed the spring under the ptt and cut a bit off it before stretching back to its original length. It was a bit fiddly but not difficult. Dropped it more than once! The ptt is now much easier to use but as others have remarked, it has no positive tactile feedback - it needs a click or similar. A shame, since the quality of the audio is very good, although my voice prefers the MD2. 73 Stephen G4SJP On 27/05/2010 03:08, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com wrote: G'day everyone! First of all, After having given my K3 its first HF hitout this last weekend for our (Myself - VK4BOF, Gary - VK4FD Dale - VK4DMC) mini dxpedition for the World Flora Fauna at Undara Lava Tubes National Park in North Queensland, Australia I must say that I am more than impressed with my new K3. It performed flawlessly and was a real pleasure to use, the MH2 microphone is however another matter. Whilst its transmitted audio quality is excellent it appears that you must be a 400lb gorilla to use the damned thing, the TX button is so stiff to use. :-) And even when you get the button in, it must be only barely making contact that as soon as you relieve any pressure at all from the button, the radio goes back to RX mode. Does anyone else have this issue? Jeff Cochrane VK4BOF Innisfail QLD Australia Elecraft K3 #4257 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
Jeff The button on my MH2 is certainly stiff. But mine seems to be a bit more forgiving in the PTT department than you've described yours to be. I don't have to remain totally clamped down on it for the rig to stay in transmit mode. I've never opened it, but perhaps there's a means to adjust it inside? 73, Dave K6DCH Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com wrote: G'day everyone! First of all, After having given my K3 its first HF hitout this last weekend for our (Myself - VK4BOF, Gary - VK4FD Dale - VK4DMC) mini dxpedition for the World Flora Fauna at Undara Lava Tubes National Park in North Queensland, Australia I must say that I am more than impressed with my new K3. It performed flawlessly and was a real pleasure to use, the MH2 microphone is however another matter. Whilst its transmitted audio quality is excellent it appears that you must be a 400lb gorilla to use the damned thing, the TX button is so stiff to use. :-) And even when you get the button in, it must be only barely making contact that as soon as you relieve any pressure at all from the button, the radio goes back to RX mode. Does anyone else have this issue? Jeff Cochrane VK4BOF Innisfail QLD Australia Elecraft K3 #4257 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
The MH2 mic PTT may be getting caught in the rubber surround. It is easy to undo the cover. Note that the PTT button only fits one-way, there is a cut away slide which fits onto the switch. For my own use the mic insert had a tad to much bass, it has been slightly modded here to suit. regards Paul zl1ajy -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/MH2-Microphone-Issue-tp5106621p5107093.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic issue
Steve, Re-check those instructions for the MH2. The resistor goes between pins 1 and 6. Pin 1 is the AF line, and pin 6 is the 5 volt line. You must pipe voltage to the AF line on the mike (through the resistor) to make it produce audio. BTW, pin 2 is the PTT pin. 73, Don W3FPR Stephen Rector wrote: Hi All: I'm new to this list. As of last week, my K2 s/n 6770 is up and running - I'm quite happy with it. Even though I have a stealth sloper to a pine tree (HOA restriction), the receiver has impressed me, and the QRP gets out (next weekend's board is the 100W PA). This weekend I got three of the accessory boards installed pretty much without a hitch, except for a problem with the MH2 hand mic. The KSSB2 board seems fully functional and I get good reports on transmit audio when I use a Heil HM-10 with the K2. But when I plug in the new MH2 hand mic, the T/R keys but with zero audio: no ALC indication and no RF. Is there a measurement I can make on the MH2 before sending it back? (I wired in the 5.6K resistor from pins 2-6 per the instructions) Steve NU7B __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.31/2264 - Release Date: 07/26/09 11:07:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 mic for sale
Thanks to all. The mic is sold. SidShusterman wrote: Brand new! Never used. $40 includes shipping CONUS. Paypal no fee. Reply directly to me please. 73, Sid __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1950 - Release Date: 2/12/2009 6:46 PM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic
The manufacturer has used the wrong cable type, it will not get better with time. It should not be ordinary pvc. Send it back, there's a batch problem. David G3UNA - Original Message - From: DW Holtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic Ken, It is not from lack of use, it is very, very stiff. Best, DW Holtman WB7SSN - Original Message - From: Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic The MH-2 that I received with my K3 has ... in my opinion ... a really stiff coiled cord. It's capable of sliding the radio on the desk when the mic is held about 24 from the radio. At this point the turns of the coiled portion of the cord are (only) about 1/4 apart. Perhaps it just needs use 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic
Yes, a bit stiff - a bit of stretching and flexing (forgive the pun) have helped. Much stiffer than my Yaesu Ft-857 mic -- The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. -Groucho Marx On 27 Mar 2008, at 07:11, David Cutter wrote: The manufacturer has used the wrong cable type, it will not get better with time. It should not be ordinary pvc. Send it back, there's a batch problem. David G3UNA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic
Ken, It is not from lack of use, it is very, very stiff. Best, DW Holtman WB7SSN - Original Message - From: Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic The MH-2 that I received with my K3 has ... in my opinion ... a really stiff coiled cord. It's capable of sliding the radio on the desk when the mic is held about 24 from the radio. At this point the turns of the coiled portion of the cord are (only) about 1/4 apart. Perhaps it just needs use 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 18:49, Mike Miller wrote: I see several guys using the Kenwood MC 43 S mic with K3.. any comparisons. with the MH2. ? Which is better...looks like they cost about the same Mike Miller KA5SMA I've had an original MH2 with my first K2, but didn't like the large size, thick stiff cord and hard to push PTT button. Sold it with that K2. Selling the K2 was a big mistake, so I ended up buying another. On this one I have the Kenwood MC-43S. The mic size and PTT buttons are better suited to me, but I still find the mic cord to be too thick. To me the best mic physically would be the mic that came with the Kenwood TR-2200A and TR-2200GIIA back in the late 1970's. It was quite small and light, and had a microswitch action PTT switch and a light cord. I think it is part number T91-0010-15, but may be T91-0033-15. I have no idea of what the audio quality would be like or even if the impedance would match. A picture is at http://www.rigpix.com/kenwood/tr2200a.htm or http://www.rigpix.com/kenwood/tr2200gii.htm Another Kenwood mic I liked was with the original TR-2200 and looked like a mic you would find with the portable cassette recorders of the day. My boss at that time had one of those and I really liked it. See the picture at http://www.rigpix.com/kenwood/tr2200.htm 73, Darrell VA7TO K2#5093 -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2: microphone
They are virtually identical. Same basic mic element, case etc. We took over manufacturing this when Heil discontinued his OEM version suddenly. Apparently he had purchased a group of excess mics and had replaced the dynamic element with the Electret element. (Leaving the unused dynamic element unused inside the case.) When he ran out he suddenly stopped selling them, so we had to locate the manufacturer of the plastic cases and spec our own custom version. For our MH2, the only changes were to eliminate the unused dynamic element left inside the case by Heil, and to improve the foam mounting for the electret element for better mechanical support. Overall the two mics sound identical. We've bought a very large quantity of these and they will be around for some time. :-) 73, Eric _..._ David Pratt wrote: I am sure this has been asked before but I cannot recall there being a definite answer. What is the difference between the MH2 microphone that was sold for the K2 (and was withdrawn from sale) and the MH2 now being sold for the K3? Was the original microphone defective in some way? Does it now have a different insert? If it is different mechanically, what is the difference? 73 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2: microphone
Many thanks to Eric, Ed N0EHQ and Geoff G3UCK for their comments about the MH2. Those that I have heard from a K3 produce excellent audio. 73 David G4DMP In a recent message, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... They are virtually identical. Same basic mic element, case etc. David Pratt wrote: What is the difference between the MH2 microphone that was sold for the K2 (and was withdrawn from sale) and the MH2 now being sold for the K3? -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2: microphone
They are virtually identical. Same basic mic element, case etc. We took over manufacturing this when Heil discontinued his OEM version suddenly. Apparently he had purchased a group of excess mics and had replaced the dynamic element with the Electret element. (Leaving the unused dynamic element unused inside the case.) When he ran out he suddenly stopped selling them, so we had to locate the manufacturer of the plastic cases and spec our own custom version. For our MH2, the only changes were to eliminate the unused dynamic element left inside the case by Heil, and to improve the foam mounting for the electret element for better mechanical support. Overall the two mics sound identical. We've bought a very large quantity of these and they will be around for some time. :-) 73, Eric Is the old Elecraft/Heil MD2 plug and play with the K3? Paul N4LCD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 vs. MD2
Roger, I can't be certain that they use the same element, but it is likely that they do. They are both electret types. Is it possible that you are holding the MH2 closer than the MD2? Many operators talk very close to a handheld mic but place the desk mic further away. 73, Don W3FPR RCStimson wrote: What is the difference between the Elecraft MH2 Hand mike and the Elecraft MD2 mile in the Stainless Steel case and Heil logo at the bottom? Are they both direct plug-in to the K3? Are they both electret elements? I seem to get a bit more punch from the hand mike MH2. Roger K8RS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 handmicrophones
I too am interested and will add a second part to that question. I noticed on my invoice that the item code was MH2-R. Does this mean it's the revised MH2? :-) Neal WA6OCP K3/10/305 PE8E wrote: Just wondering, Is there any difference between the old Elecraft MH2 (with Heil-label on front) and the new Elecraft MH2 (with Elecraft-label on front) ?? Don't want to take them apart to see if the mic-element is identical. Ron. K2 #01194, K3 #00201, both with MH2 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/MH2-handmicrophones-tp15118024p15120487.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 handmicrophones
Ron, The new microphone may or may not have the identical element, but the audio response and electrical behavior will the same. They are electret elements and need bias on the AF pin (1). 73, Don W3FPR Ron - PE8E wrote: Just wondering, Is there any difference between the old Elecraft MH2 (with Heil-label on front) and the new Elecraft MH2 (with Elecraft-label on front) ?? Don't want to take them apart to see if the mic-element is identical. Ron. K2 #01194, K3 #00201, both with MH2 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 mike element
Hi Joe, Yes it does. 73, Eric WA6HHQ --- Joseph Trombino Jr wrote: Does the Elecraft MH2 hand mike contain an electret mike element??? 73, Joe W2KJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] MH2 Mike Wiring - K2?
Just received mine, comes with plug wired to the k3 and or k2 with the mounting clip,but includes mic. Configuration blocks, and 5.6k (green-blue-red) resistor for wiring to the k2. Regards Bob M0MJA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred (FL) Sent: 20 August 2007 12:09 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 Mike Wiring - K2? Does the new MH2 Mike, have standard ready plug wiring, for the K3 and K2 - out of the box, plug, etc.? Fred, de N3CSY Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Info/Schematic
Ben, The MH2 that I have makes hot connections only to pins 1 and 2 and ground on pins 7 and 8, so you can use any of pins 3, 4, 5, or 6. If you have wired the resistor to mic jack pins 6 and 1, then pin 6 is not usable unless you modify the 5 volt take-off point on the front panel board. So the short answer is: In a normal K2 wired for the Elecraft MH2, you can freely use mic jack pins 3, 4, and 5 (remember to remove the jumpers for those pins from the mic configuration header so you don't feed anything back into the K2 circuits). 73, Don W3FPR Ben Hofmann K1NT wrote: I have an MH-2 microphone for use with my K2. I can't find the paperwork that originally came with it. I am wanting to use 2 pins on the mic connector for fixed level and variable level receive audio. Was thinking of two of pins 3, 4 or 5, but I wanted to make sure before I did it that hooking the MH-2 to the connector with signals on any of these 3 pins would damage the MH-2 any way. Any help would be appreciated. -Ben K1NT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Plug
Jim: Radio shack has it for about four bucks. Go to their website and search on 8 pin microphone connector and you'll find it. No affiliation with Radio Shack and no idea how good or bad the quality of the part is. I'm sure all of the usual electronics parts houses also carry it. 73's, John AA0VE Jim Campbell wrote: I have a need for the microphone plug to match the mike socket in the K2 front panel. Can anyone give me a source for this part? Many thanks, Jim W4BQP K2 # 2268 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Plug
Wow! That was fast. Based on the info posted in response to my request I determined that the local Radio Shack has them. Thanks again for the fast response. Jim Jim Campbell wrote: I have a need for the microphone plug to match the mike socket in the K2 front panel. Can anyone give me a source for this part? Many thanks, Jim W4BQP K2 # 2268 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Hand Microphone question?
- Original Message - From: D.Suttie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 Hand Microphone question? MH2 Hand Microphone,why was it discontinued?was there a problem with it?? is there another fist mic i can use in its place?? Please advise Donald ___ Elecraft mailing list Donald - I use a 600 ohm Cobra CB mic and get great audio reports. I also have a 2.2k Electret headset mic (from a cell phone) and I get reports that the 2.2k mic is more bassy and less punchy. I consider that ideal - I use the hand mic for general use and the headset for VOX ragchews on 75m at night. -- Just my 2¢ worth... 73's es gd dx de Ken KGØWX Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #1055, Digital On Six #350, Proud builder owner of Elecraft K2 #4913 -- Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.2.0 - Release Date: 5/27/2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Discontinued
Hello All, After leaving the Elecraft booth at Dayton with my K2/100/SSB/ATU (SN-004935), DL-1, BL-1 in hand with the understanding that the Heil hand mic was discontinued, I stopped at the Heil booth and asked them what might work. There I was told that a mic with the Icom element and a Kenwood connector will work. Also they confirmed that the MH2 was no longer available. I ended up purchasing a Traveler boomset for Kenwood because I was informed that all of the Travelers have Icom elements and only the connectors are different. I realize that this doesn't directly address the hand mic issue but perhaps it could help with some homebrewing. 73 Mike Warner N3XPD PS, As soon I clear a workable area on my bench, construction of the K2 will begin. Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Heil discontinued the hand mic. Yes, we are working on a new one, but it will be a little bit before we get them to market. 73, Eric Paul Saville wrote: The MH2 is now listed as discontinued. Will there be an Elecraft-branded replacement for those who don't fancy pop star type microphones? 73 Paul ZL3IN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 5/25/2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Discontinued
Hi The TenTec handheld microphone works great with the K2. It comes with a 4 pin connector that you will need to change to the 8 pin connector for the K2. This mike works fine with the 5.6K bias resistor from the 5 volt supply to the AF pin, just like the MH2. I have also used the TenTec desk mike on the K2, however it really needs 8-9 volts rather than the 5 volts provided by the K2. You can use the internal 9 volt battery or jumper over to the 8 volt supply in the K2. Don Brown KD5NDB - Original Message - From: Paul Saville [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Discontinued The MH2 is now listed as discontinued. Will there be an Elecraft-branded replacement for those who don't fancy pop star type microphones? 73 Paul ZL3IN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Discontinued
Heil discontinued the hand mic. Yes, we are working on a new one, but it will be a little bit before we get them to market. 73, Eric Paul Saville wrote: The MH2 is now listed as discontinued. Will there be an Elecraft-branded replacement for those who don't fancy pop star type microphones? 73 Paul ZL3IN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Discontinued
Thanks for that information OM, I will be CW only until the new hand mike comes on the market. Take as long as you like! 73 Paul ZL3IN Heil discontinued the hand mic. Yes, we are working on a new one, but it will be a little bit before we get them to market. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 to MD2 - K2, Modification Required?
Paul, I will find out in a few days, but I do believe the MD2 wiring requirements are the same as for the MH2 - if not, I will make it so. IMHO, if you are using several mics with a particular rig, it is better to wire the plug on the mic rather than re-do the configuration header - my header is wired straight across and will likely stay that way. If the mic must be used with several different transceivers, I believe the best solution is to build an adapter. I would not want to slave a particular microphone to any one transceiver. Maybe we hams should campaign to use XLR connectors on our microphones like the audio folks do (particularly those mics used in the home station - handhelds for field or mobile use are a different situation) 73, Don W3FPR - Original Message - I built a K2 about a year ago and wired it for use with the MH2 hand microphone. As the MD2 is currently on sale, I'm thinking about purchasing one. Can I just unplug the old mic and plug in the new one, or am I going to have to modify the mic input circuitry? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com